Health Ranger - Mike Adams - John Ferguson Interview: Affordable Military Drones and the Future of Warfare
Aired: 2026-04-07
Duration: 01:02:05


=== Replacing Expensive Military Drones (09:47) ===

[00:00:02]  Yeah, you know, I come from a manufacturing family.
[00:00:06]  You know, my father started a plastics manufacturing plant in our garage when I was four years old.
[00:00:13]  And that's how I grew up.
[00:00:15]  And my father and my brother, you know, have always been, you know, kind of like my mentors because they were able to make things happen.
[00:00:24]  I also saw all of the manufacturing leave America, all because of going overseas.
[00:00:32]  We can talk about the mining and the carbon footprint and all this other crap, which is all very important stuff, but we're either going to get to a point where we're either going to do it or we're not going to do it.
[00:00:47]  And the responsibility that we have to bear ourselves is if we do not do this, then whatever our future looks like, which appears to be somewhat bleak, we just have to deal with it because that's the decision that we made.
[00:01:00]  I think we, as the American people, we have failed ourselves.
[00:01:06]  Because we're not voting the right people into those positions.
[00:01:10]  And when they get put into those positions and they prove to us that we have made a mistake, we do not have the power to remove those people.
[00:01:20]  Welcome to today's interview here on brightvideos.com.
[00:01:22]  I'm Mike Adams, and we live in a world that has seen some radical paradigm shifts in warfare, in automation, in deliveries, and so much more because of just one technology.
[00:01:36]  Known as drone technology.
[00:01:38]  You've seen drones in the Ukraine Russia conflict.
[00:01:41]  You've seen Amazon drones getting ready to do mass deliveries, drones in agriculture and mapping and also inspections of high voltage lines and much more.
[00:01:53]  And today we are joined for the first time by a special guest, John Ferguson, and he is the CEO of Saxon Unmanned, which is a US based drone manufacturer.
[00:02:02]  So welcome to the show, Mr. Ferguson.
[00:02:04]  It's great to have you on.
[00:02:05]  Well, thank you.
[00:02:06]  Thank you, Mike.
[00:02:06]  It's great to be on.
[00:02:07]  Thank you.
[00:02:08]  I'm honored to have you on, and I really love the fact that you're making drones in America because, of course, we know China dominates this area.
[00:02:17]  And it's hard to compete with China in many ways.
[00:02:20]  But tell us a little bit about your company first, just a background and where you focus, and then we'll get into some questions.
[00:02:25]  Well, no, thank you.
[00:02:27]  I started out, I was a U.S. Marine and I'd spent several years in the Corps and got out, went into deep sea diving and then into piloting submersible vehicles.
[00:02:37]  I traveled around the world doing that, and I just I didn't want to be attached to one specific industry, which is mostly oil and gas at the time.
[00:02:46]  And so, in 2013, 2014, I saw that the drone industry was going to be kind of a big deal.
[00:02:53]  So, I latched on and I saw the rise of the DJI drones, the Chinese drones.
[00:03:01]  And I just thought, you know, I can make a decent product.
[00:03:05]  And so, I sold my Harley and started the company.
[00:03:09]  And here we are today.
[00:03:10]  Wow.
[00:03:11]  Wow.
[00:03:11]  Okay.
[00:03:11]  And you're based in Kansas.
[00:03:12]  Is that right?
[00:03:13]  Yes, yeah, Wichita, Kansas.
[00:03:15]  And who are your primary customers right now, or what industries mostly do you serve?
[00:03:20]  You know, I started this company because I love the Marine Corps so much.
[00:03:25]  I was in the Marines for a while, and I just love the military and supporting our men and women.
[00:03:32]  So I really just kind of molded the company around being a military type of supplier.
[00:03:39]  And that's where we are still to this day.
[00:03:41]  But we sell aircraft to Raytheon and Georgia Tech Research Institute, Mexican Aircraft.
[00:03:50]  Police and places around the world.
[00:03:54]  Yeah.
[00:03:54]  So we get around.
[00:03:56]  Well, I've heard that selling to the US military is paperwork intensive, bureaucratic, a lot of hurdles, right, to go through.
[00:04:05]  And I've heard of some other companies also sort of diversifying their customer base into some other areas just to kind of level out the bumps in the road.
[00:04:13]  Is that something that your company does?
[00:04:15]  Yes, for sure.
[00:04:16]  You know, we sell our aircraft to the public.
[00:04:19]  You know, anyone can.
[00:04:20]  Can buy our aircraft.
[00:04:22]  But, you know, the military, it's crazy.
[00:04:25]  You have to have every single part and piece.
[00:04:28]  It has to have an origin, you know, of where that part came from, you know, like a nut or a bolt.
[00:04:34]  We need to know what kind of steel it was made from and where that steel was brought in from and the cage code and everything.
[00:04:41]  So, you know, you can understand why things cost so much when you're selling to the Department of Defense or Department of War, just to the government in general.
[00:04:52]  So, It's very taxing, but it's well worth it.
[00:04:56]  It's very well worth it.
[00:04:58]  Okay.
[00:04:58]  And then what role do your drones serve in military applications?
[00:05:04]  Well, like this big guy behind me here, it'll fly for about 18 to 20 hours.
[00:05:10]  And so this aircraft is perfectly suited for long range deployment, long range surveillance, loitering over a battlefield.
[00:05:20]  It could have battlefield munitions, it's really good at collecting data.
[00:05:25]  Uh, generating maps, uh, thermal imaging.
[00:05:28]  Uh, there's a lot of different technologies that this aircraft has the potential to do that is more military specific that I don't even know about.
[00:05:37]  So, uh, but the nice thing is that you know it'll carry you know 15, 20 pounds and you can stick it up in the air and let it go out and do its mission.
[00:05:48]  And when it's time to deploy the aircraft or the munitions or whatever, this aircraft will absolutely have the ability to, uh, To complete the mission successfully.
[00:05:59]  And they're rugged and reliable.
[00:06:00]  That's the most important part.
[00:06:02]  Okay, that's really interesting because it seems like a lot of what you're describing would allow it to replace the far more expensive multi million dollar drones that the US military uses in many cases, not in all cases, but in many cases.
[00:06:15]  Is that true?
[00:06:17]  Yeah, you know, drones are drones, right?
[00:06:20]  And so they don't have to be, you know, super high tech, multi million dollar drones.
[00:06:27]  I mean, take a look at the Shahid drone that the Iranians are developing or building.
[00:06:32]  You know, it's what we would consider more of a kind of a dumber drone, right?
[00:06:35]  It just doesn't have a lot of capability or a lot of, you know, technology built into it.
[00:06:40]  It can, but it just has to go out there for a very inexpensive price point and just go do the job.
[00:06:47]  And so that's what these things can do.
[00:06:49]  They can just go out there and fly.
[00:06:51]  And as long as they're reliable, then they're meeting their task requirements.
[00:06:57]  So again, you don't have to have really highly technologically advanced aircraft to go out there and just perform the most basic of missions.
[00:07:06]  Okay, and then what level of autonomy do your drones exhibit if the pilot chooses to engage that?
[00:07:15]  I mean, I've never used your drone, so I'm just guessing there's some autonomous flight.
[00:07:20]  Yeah.
[00:07:21]  And that's the great thing about the mission planning software is that you could just tell the drone to go do its job and let her rip and she'll go out and do it.
[00:07:29]  So, you know, you can plan the auto takeoff and auto landing.
[00:07:34]  You can plan different waypoints, different altitudes, different speeds.
[00:07:38]  And when you get over to certain points on the map, you can tell the aircraft to release a servo that could, you know, it could trigger a camera or it could, Release a payload or it can engage a certain type of sensor.
[00:07:55]  So you really, you just don't have to touch the thing that much.
[00:08:02]  We actually, when we sell an aircraft to our customers, we make sure that our customers know how to actually fly the aircraft.
[00:08:09]  And just, you know, punching values into software isn't flying the aircraft.
[00:08:14]  You actually have to be able to physically grab a hold of the sticks and be able to manually fly the aircraft just in case something happens.
[00:08:24]  Because we always want to prevent what we would call an unscheduled landing.
[00:08:30]  Okay, that makes sense.
[00:08:32]  Yeah.
[00:08:32]  Now, when most people think of the word drone, at least the way it used to be, was a quadcopter configuration, vertical takeoff and landing.
[00:08:42]  Clearly, that's not what your drone does, but then yours, as I would imagine, is much more fuel efficient and longer range because of its fixed wing configuration.
[00:08:51]  Can you talk about why you made that choice?
[00:08:53]  Yeah, so we actually do provide, we do build quadcopters or, you know, multi-copters is what we call them, that are, they just take off vertically.
[00:09:03]  And those, for the most part, are battery operated.
[00:09:07]  And so when they're battery operated, you have more limited flight duration.
[00:09:12]  You can go in and do hydrogen or you can do a hybrid type system where you're partially battery, partially fuel, and that will extend out your flight time.
[00:09:25]  But this particular aircraft behind me here, You know, we operate this thing off of a 35cc engine, which is a very small engine for this size of an aircraft.
[00:09:34]  But we have an air hybrid system where we can give it a boost so we can get up to altitude quickly and then turn off the boost feature.
[00:09:44]  And then we're just on this very fuel efficient 35cc fuel injected engine.

=== Swappable Sensors and Optics (03:44) ===

[00:09:49]  So, again, you know, just different missions for different aircraft.
[00:09:55]  But the most important part about these aircraft is the modularity.
[00:10:00]  You know, there's 1,440 minutes in the day.
[00:10:03]  And if you're screwing around on the ground trying to figure out CG, you know, center of gravity or, you know, weight distribution in the aircraft, either somebody's dying or you're wasting money somewhere.
[00:10:16]  So it's very important to have the aircraft in such a way that you can really just swap out the sensor.
[00:10:24]  It's already pre designated in its location.
[00:10:29]  And you don't have to worry about CG too much because you're pretty close to being there.
[00:10:32]  You can get the aircraft up in the air and go out and save a life or earn money.
[00:10:37]  So, but again, just two different types of aircraft for two, well, they share similar missions, you know, mapping, surveillance, et cetera.
[00:10:48]  So, for let's say, for example, search and rescue mission, I imagine you have customers that do that and they would want, you know, high precision thermal cameras.
[00:10:58]  What kind of cameras can, let's say, the sheriff's department, what can they buy?
[00:11:04]  That can plug into your platform.
[00:11:06]  How does that even work for the sensors?
[00:11:09]  It's very simple.
[00:11:10]  Well, I say it's simple.
[00:11:11]  It's simple for us, but not always that simple.
[00:11:14]  But thermal imaging sensors are fantastic sensors that you could use across both platforms.
[00:11:21]  You know, thermal imaging, there's two types of thermal imaging just straight thermal, and then there's radiometric.
[00:11:27]  So with the straight thermal, you can lock onto targets at night.
[00:11:31]  So if there's a person that's stranded out in the woods, or if you have a chance to see through the woods, or if they're in the mountains or whatever, As long as we can see that person or that animal or whatever, they create a heat source.
[00:11:47]  And so we can identify that.
[00:11:49]  And so it's a very efficient way to save a life.
[00:11:53]  We also have.
[00:11:54]  But I'm sorry, but what I mean is, can a customer just buy off the shelf optics and plug them in somehow?
[00:12:01]  Or do they have to buy them through your company?
[00:12:02]  Or how does that work?
[00:12:03]  Is there a.
[00:12:04]  What kind of standard do they have to adhere to on that?
[00:12:08]  There are a plethora.
[00:12:10]  Of websites out there that will sell those optics.
[00:12:13]  You can even buy them on Amazon.
[00:12:16]  There's a certain frequency that you can't just buy.
[00:12:20]  There's a higher frequency that these thermal imaging systems operate off of, which gives you a lot more clarity, a lot more data.
[00:12:29]  Those systems, you can still buy them, but there's some paperwork that you have to do behind that.
[00:12:35]  I see.
[00:12:36]  Like an end user statement, right?
[00:12:38]  And then you can't ship those overseas.
[00:12:41]  Because now you are entering into what we call ITAR, which is International Traffic and Arms Regulations.
[00:12:46]  Oh, yeah.
[00:12:46]  Well, I'm familiar with that just with buying optics for rifles.
[00:12:49]  Yeah.
[00:12:52]  Okay.
[00:12:53]  Any sensor, for the most part, you can just buy it online.
[00:12:57]  And then where do the sensors physically go on the aircraft?
[00:13:04]  Depending on the weight distribution, but normally being that our aircraft are more heavier in the back, we always would put our sensors on the forward edge of the aircraft.
[00:13:14]  I see.
[00:13:15]  We have underneath, you can't really see it, but there's a, where is it here?
[00:13:20]  Right there.
[00:13:20]  Yeah.
[00:13:22]  There's a place there where we have like a sacrificial canopy where you can just cut a hole in it and pop your sensor through, and you can have 50 of these with 50 different types of sensors.
[00:13:32]  Okay.

=== Grand Base Model Flight Time (04:13) ===

[00:13:34]  You just, again, you've got to worry about your center of gravity and also the vibration mounting.
[00:13:40]  You want to make sure that you give your sensor a nice, calm, smooth ride.
[00:13:44]  Oh, yeah.
[00:13:45]  Just go.
[00:13:46]  But yeah, very, you know, it's time consuming, but it's well worth it because you just capture better data that way.
[00:13:54]  And then the fuel is gasoline, or what's the fuel?
[00:13:59]  Just regular 91 octane gas for this particular engine.
[00:14:05]  Okay.
[00:14:06]  Interesting.
[00:14:06]  And you said flight time of 18 to 20 hours.
[00:14:09]  Did you say that earlier?
[00:14:10]  I did.
[00:14:10]  I did.
[00:14:11]  Yeah.
[00:14:11]  Depending on, you know, we have a larger fuel cell.
[00:14:15]  This particular aircraft is actually sitting out in the hangar, it has a six and a half liter fuel cell.
[00:14:20]  You'll, you know, maybe get 10 or 12 hours of flight duration.
[00:14:24]  But the bigger.
[00:14:25]  The bigger fuel cells you can get up to 18 to 20 hours, but it's really hard to really quote accurately what your flight duration is because you don't know the weight of the vehicle, the all up weight, and you don't know what the wind conditions are.
[00:14:41]  You know what the barometric pressures are, and there's the altitudes that you're flying.
[00:14:46]  So there's a lot of factors that go into that, but the best this aircraft could possibly do is 18 to 20 hours.
[00:14:53]  Wow, that's really remarkable.
[00:14:55]  And then I'm sorry to be asking so many questions, but I'm trained as a pilot also just.
[00:15:00]  On Cessna's or what have you.
[00:15:02]  So, I do have a lot of questions, but what about takeoff distance and landing distance?
[00:15:08]  What's required?
[00:15:09]  Yeah, this particular one has that boost so that we can get off the ground.
[00:15:14]  We can be wheels up within about 30 to 40 yards.
[00:15:19]  Wow.
[00:15:20]  Yeah.
[00:15:20]  Wow.
[00:15:21]  Yeah.
[00:15:21]  Well, that's the nice thing about having that little boost on the engine, you know?
[00:15:27]  But if you have a shorter runway or if you have a heavier payload and you need to get the aircraft.
[00:15:32]  Off the ground, that boost really works great.
[00:15:36]  So you get off the ground, you get up to altitude, then you can shut that boost off and go right back to just straight gas and just accomplish your mission.
[00:15:47]  But we're actually converting this aircraft over to a VTOL.
[00:15:51]  We have a new design.
[00:15:52]  No way.
[00:15:53]  Yeah, it's a fixed wing aircraft that is going to take off vertically and then it'll transition to a standard forward flight like any other fixed wing aircraft.
[00:16:05]  Those are kind of like the new sexy versions of the evolution in drone technology right now.
[00:16:12]  Wouldn't that take quite a bit more thrust than what your current engine produces?
[00:16:18]  Yes, but those are electric motors.
[00:16:20]  Oh, okay.
[00:16:21]  Yeah.
[00:16:22]  And then we have a generator on the back of this thing.
[00:16:24]  So we can take off with the electric motors.
[00:16:27]  We can gain altitude.
[00:16:28]  And then we transition over to the fuel engine.
[00:16:33]  And then when the aircraft is on its mission, then the generator will actually recharge the batteries in the nose.
[00:16:39]  So, like a hybrid, like a Toyota Prius.
[00:16:42]  Yeah.
[00:16:43]  Yeah.
[00:16:43]  But if you stick your hand out the door, you're not going to turn.
[00:16:48]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:16:49]  Yeah, Dunham joke.
[00:16:50]  Well, that's really interesting.
[00:16:52]  Okay.
[00:16:53]  So, this technology, and I mean, I'm sorry to put you on the spot here, but roughly just for our audience, there might be some, I don't know, ranchers or law enforcement watching or government people.
[00:17:05]  Roughly, what kind of price range are we talking about for the base model?
[00:17:09]  If you can answer that.
[00:17:12]  I love that because our competitors, this is $150,000 to $250,000 bird.
[00:17:20]  You know, all day long, but you know, our base price on that is around 80 grand.
[00:17:26]  So, you know, depending on how you want it configured, but but yeah, base price is about 80 grand.
[00:17:32]  Wow.
[00:17:33]  And I still have the overhead the big guys do.
[00:17:36]  Yeah, that makes sense.
[00:17:38]  A lot of sense.
[00:17:40]  And I would guess for 80 grand, you know, you definitely don't want to be the user that crashes it, right?

=== Affordable Counter Drone Solutions (15:05) ===

[00:17:47]  I mean, you want to take care of this thing.
[00:17:51]  You know, there's just a certain.
[00:17:55]  Part of owning a drone manufacturing company where you just have to face that reality and that stings sometimes.
[00:18:01]  Uh huh.
[00:18:02]  Yeah.
[00:18:03]  What's worse is when you have your employees do it.
[00:18:05]  That stings even more.
[00:18:09]  Okay.
[00:18:09]  All right.
[00:18:10]  So, wow, for less than 100 grand, then, as the base model, you've got a drone with up to 20 hours flight time, but could be less.
[00:18:20]  Now, how does this compare to Iran's drones, what I call the Flying Doritos?
[00:18:27]  You know, and you already kind of mentioned the Shahid platform, but my understanding is that Iran is cranking these out with some very rapid manufacturing.
[00:18:38]  And this has changed the nature of warfare, also, as we saw with Ukraine versus Russia, both.
[00:18:43]  I mean, Russia took some heavy hits recently with Ukrainian drones striking oil facilities.
[00:18:48]  Yeah.
[00:18:48]  So talk to us about how this changes the nature of warfare and surveillance.
[00:18:54]  This is such a huge evolution in warfare.
[00:18:59]  This to me is the equivalent of the dawn of the cell phone, you know, because.
[00:19:07]  Whether you support the war with Russia and Ukraine or not, they have taught the world how to fight with these systems and how to fight with very inexpensive drones, $1,500 drones.
[00:19:22]  And they're out there just decimating the battlefield.
[00:19:27]  You can go on Amazon or you can go to Best Buy and go pick up a $2,000 or $3,000 drone, and you can go out there in just a matter of minutes.
[00:19:37]  You can complete All of the battlefield intelligence that men and women for decades have used has died, you know, trying to gather that intel, you know, prior to, you know, some type of, you know, conflict, right?
[00:19:53]  So, like, you take forward observers or whatever and you go sneak out for days to go get on top of a mountain to go, you know, collect information on a position that you're getting ready to attack.
[00:20:07]  And of course, the minute the attack happens, that person is going to, you know, be gone because they know where they're going to sit.
[00:20:13]  To collect that data, a drone just go out there and fly over and take those images.
[00:20:18]  And all of those images have GPS coordinates on the back of them.
[00:20:22]  They're all geotagged, right?
[00:20:24]  And then you can take that software and you can stitch it all together and you can create very quickly a map that's accurate and less than an inch in accuracy, right?
[00:20:35]  So you can fly over.
[00:20:37]  And I mean, how many military maps have you ever seen or pilot maps have you ever seen?
[00:20:42]  Every single one of them has elevations, right?
[00:20:44]  Because that's so incredibly important for.
[00:20:48]  Flying an aircraft or, you know, a battlefield preparation.
[00:20:52]  So, with these aircraft, you can fly over a battlefield.
[00:20:55]  You can get all of the elevations.
[00:20:56]  It's called a digital elevation model for those that don't know or haven't seen that.
[00:21:02]  Then, you can create a 3D model of the terrain and you can create a 3D model of the building.
[00:21:08]  So, if you need to know what kind of a missile you're going to use to blow up a building or whatever, you now have how tall it is, you have, you know, how wide it is, and you even have the volume.
[00:21:21]  Of what it would take or the volume to fill up that building or depression or whatever it is, right?
[00:21:27]  Yeah.
[00:21:28]  So you get that battlefield data and you're, you're, you know, you're 10,000 steps ahead of what we used to be back in the Vietnam days, you know?
[00:21:38]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:21:39]  And that's a $2,000 or $3,000 drone can offer all of that information.
[00:21:44]  See, I see drone technology as parallel to the invention of the musket.
[00:21:51]  Back during the Revolutionary War, you know, the invention of the musket, which allowed decentralized manufacturing of low cost firearms, allowed a bunch of rebels to challenge an empire, right?
[00:22:03]  And I think drones are very much the same way.
[00:22:05]  We see this in Ukraine, where drones are making, in many ways, you know, tanks can be rendered obsolete by drone warfare.
[00:22:15]  And I want to show you something on my screen here, which is the ultimate expression of this.
[00:22:19]  I couldn't believe it, but this is a cardboard drone.
[00:22:23]  And the name of this video is Ukraine's flat pack cardboard drones are destroying Russian tanks.
[00:22:29]  And apparently, and I've seen, you know, this is just a rendition, but I've seen an actual working cardboard drone that can be taped together.
[00:22:42]  You know, obviously wouldn't work in the rain probably that well, but, you know, it can be taped together where you can, you know, you can assemble your own drone out of cardboard so that your cost of crashing it is a lot lower.
[00:22:57]  I mean, how inexpensive are these going to get in terms of functionality?
[00:23:01]  I mean, I know yours is less expensive than competitors, but there are drones a lot less expensive than even what you make, as you just mentioned.
[00:23:09]  What are your thoughts?
[00:23:10]  Well, I think Orville and Wilbur Wright would be proud that we're still making drones or we're still making aircraft out of wood and cardboard.
[00:23:20]  So, a lot of people get wrapped around the axles on this.
[00:23:25]  They're like, oh my gosh, they're making drones out of wood and cardboard, and it's It's cool.
[00:23:31]  It's very inexpensive.
[00:23:35]  I mean, that blows my mind that they're out there doing that.
[00:23:40]  But still, I mean, we've been building aircraft out of wood for many, many, many years.
[00:23:44]  The real thing that people are getting wrapped around the axles on is the fact that it's less susceptible to being spotted by conventional radar systems.
[00:23:55]  Oh, I see.
[00:23:56]  And we have counter drone technology, which there's a lot of wonderful companies out there that are evolving that counter drone technology.
[00:24:04]  But, you know, these types of aircraft would be more capable of getting through those types of radar systems, kind of like the Iron Dome over in Israel, you know.
[00:24:18]  So every once in a while, you know, a couple of them will get through.
[00:24:21]  That's just because there's just certain failures of technology that won't pick everything up.
[00:24:25]  So it concerns me actually to be building these out of cardboard just simply because they're so low cost and they're going to, Highly probable that they're going to avoid the standard or conventional radar systems that, you know, we're going to get stung here pretty soon here in America, if you ask me.
[00:24:45]  I would think that some of that's already happened with the destruction of, you know, the billion dollar US radar systems that were taken out by drones because they're so slow.
[00:24:55]  They're not identified as incoming missiles.
[00:24:57]  You know, they're just like, I call them sky mopeds that are coming in from Iran, just and hitting the radar and blowing it up.
[00:25:06]  I want to ask you about this.
[00:25:07]  You know, you're a Marine.
[00:25:09]  I support our Marines, but I also think the best way to support our Marines is don't send them into places where they're going to get killed.
[00:25:15]  And part of the problem right now is, and I don't mean to make this political, but Trump may be proposing a landing of Marines and special forces in Iran.
[00:25:26]  The thing is, they're going to be subjected to drone warfare if that happens.
[00:25:30]  Clearly, that's the case because Iran's already demonstrated drone technology.
[00:25:35]  So, how do U.S. Marines defend themselves then against incoming drones?
[00:25:41]  Well, no, that's a fantastic question.
[00:25:44]  And again, even though I spent several years in the Marine Corps, I'm not an advocate for sending people out to go die.
[00:25:53]  Right, right.
[00:25:54]  Neither am I.
[00:25:56]  I like to keep Marines alive.
[00:25:58]  Right.
[00:25:58]  So, I mean, I've flatlined twice.
[00:26:04]  And I can tell you, both times that I flatlined, it hurt.
[00:26:08]  So, I don't want to do that again.
[00:26:10]  I damn sure don't want to send any of my.
[00:26:13]  Brothers, sisters, kids, or anybody out to go die, especially for somebody else's country.
[00:26:21]  So I'm not that guy.
[00:26:24]  But we do have to understand that there is technology out there that we are going to have to deal with.
[00:26:34]  And as far as the administration putting troops on the ground in Iran, I'll just divert back to you.
[00:26:43]  I mean, how many.
[00:26:45]  Wars has America been in where there's not been one single body or one single person deployed with boots on the ground in that particular region?
[00:26:53]  I don't think any, right?
[00:26:56]  So, no war is ever won by complete absolute air superiority.
[00:27:03]  There's always boots on the ground and there always will be boots on the ground if you're going to do it.
[00:27:08]  And I completely agree with you.
[00:27:11]  I'm sorry to interrupt, but I just would add that America has never had boots on the ground anywhere in the drone era of warfare.
[00:27:18]  No.
[00:27:20]  So, we've never encountered that other than maybe a few specialists that are running like radar systems in Ukraine, but they're kind of off the books or whatever, you know.
[00:27:26]  But in terms of uniformed United States Marines on the ground in large numbers, they've never encountered drone technology like what has come into being over the last five years.
[00:27:38]  You're absolutely correct.
[00:27:40]  And you can thank the Russia Ukraine war for that, you know.
[00:27:44]  But they're, I've been saying this an awful lot, but you know, the Trump administration, they brought in all these.
[00:27:51]  Tariffs and all this investment into the United States, and there's all this money out there somewhere.
[00:27:57]  I think he probably needs to shave off two or three billion dollars to beef up our drone technology here in the United States.
[00:28:04]  I mean, the Chinese government subsidized their drone industry, and that's why they're ruling the roost right now in commercial type technologies because they just got hundreds and hundreds of smart engineers just sitting around engineering stuff.
[00:28:23]  We don't do that, but I think, and again, I said this a lot, but I think the administration needs to give every single drone manufacturer that's making American made drones here in the United States a contract.
[00:28:36]  And we need to spur that technological development because if not, we're going to continue sitting in the backseat.
[00:28:45]  And right now, militarily, our drones, I think, are far more sophisticated than the Chinese drones.
[00:28:52]  Commercially, I believe that we're kind of behind the eight ball a little bit compared to China.
[00:28:58]  But again, we have got to really beef up the counter drone technology.
[00:29:03]  And I will say this there's a few ways we can take drones down, one is the frequency.
[00:29:09]  Right.
[00:29:10]  But they have frequency hopping on drones now.
[00:29:13]  So if you get hit with one frequency, you can switch to a different frequency and not have that frequency eliminator take your aircraft down.
[00:29:22]  You have microwave pulse, dangerous.
[00:29:25]  And then you have lasers, dangerous.
[00:29:28]  And then you have drone on drone technology, which I am a big proponent of.
[00:29:32]  The problem we have here in America is that our bureaucracy is not going to allow us to deploy this type of counter drone measures because we're afraid of the You know, the family of four flying the Cessna that's behind the drone, right?
[00:29:48]  So, you know, just because you send a pulse out or a laser or microwave or, you know, frequency eliminators out, that doesn't mean it's going to stop at the drone, right?
[00:29:57]  So, we're tripping over our own feet in that regard.
[00:30:01]  So, again, my favorite is drone on drone, you know, risk mitigation.
[00:30:10]  I actually think that makes a lot of sense to my producers.
[00:30:13]  Go ahead and show my screen here.
[00:30:14]  This.
[00:30:14]  This is one example of an anti drone drone.
[00:30:18]  So this thing loiters looking for incoming drones, and then it can go kamikaze itself against another drone.
[00:30:26]  And I think you're right.
[00:30:27]  I think that's by far the most effective technology.
[00:30:30]  And it's also small, it's compact, it's modular, et cetera, and they're disposable.
[00:30:37]  But back to what you just said earlier, I think you make a very valid point that we have a government, whether it was Biden or Trump, that just keeps sending.
[00:30:48]  Billions of dollars to Ukraine, almost all of which just vanishes into people's pockets somewhere.
[00:30:54]  Nobody even knows.
[00:30:57]  Why not just throw a couple of billion into domestic drone technology investment?
[00:31:03]  Because that will last.
[00:31:05]  I mean, that will impact decades of innovation.
[00:31:08]  And what you were just talking about, your vertical takeoff drone tech, what could you do with $50 million on that?
[00:31:15]  I mean, that's a lot of engineers you could put to work.
[00:31:18]  Oh my gosh.
[00:31:19]  With $50 million, I could build a very powerful drone.
[00:31:28]  System.
[00:31:28]  And again, you're absolutely right.
[00:31:30]  You know, I did, I've done a lot of work on the border and south of the border fighting cartels, human trafficking, child sex trafficking, and narco terrorism.
[00:31:42]  And there's a lot of things that we've discovered down there.
[00:31:46]  And there's, you'll probably remember a couple of years ago, you'll have heard maybe one blip on the news where they had stated that they were finding weapons, small arms that we sent to Ukraine that they were selling out the back door to the cartel.
[00:32:02]  Here, you remember that?
[00:32:03]  Yep, you know, uh, that just reeks, uh, that just reeks in my book, and I think that's disgusting.
[00:32:10]  And I think those people should be, uh, you know, held very responsible for what they've done because that's that's killing Americans.
[00:32:18]  Those weapons are that we built and gave to our taxpayer dollars, gave those to that country to help them, are now killing Americans from an adversarial organization like the cartels, right?
[00:32:30]  That's right.
[00:32:32]  Again, you absolutely hit the nail on the head that if I were in this administration, I would absolutely shave off a couple, two or three billion, and spur that job creation and growth here in America and get us back on our feet where we need to be.

=== Bringing Manufacturing Back Home (06:25) ===

[00:32:52]  Because right now, on the commercial side of things, the Chinese, I believe, have pulled ahead.
[00:33:00]  Well, they most definitely have pulled ahead.
[00:33:02]  And so.
[00:33:03]  You know, these small drones like that one that you just showed.
[00:33:08]  I mean, hell, we crash into each other on accident.
[00:33:12]  Surely we could do it on purpose, right?
[00:33:15]  Right.
[00:33:16]  But no, there's software out there that you can lock on to another aircraft and you can tell that drone to go out and go hit that software.
[00:33:27]  That software needs to be further refined.
[00:33:29]  Sure.
[00:33:30]  But it's out there.
[00:33:32]  So there's so many things we can do as a country.
[00:33:35]  But right now, a lot of what I would say nefarious type organizations that are here in the United States are more focused on dividing us and getting us to hate each other than we are defense of our own country.
[00:33:50]  Yeah.
[00:33:50]  And again, I see so much money leaving our country, but almost nothing being spent where we need it here, including on our own infrastructure from roads and bridges and railways, et cetera, and also industry.
[00:34:02]  And that leads me to one question I had for you.
[00:34:04]  You know, supply chains are becoming very fragile and politically sensitive also with so many tariffs and so on.
[00:34:11]  So the 35cc engine that you mentioned before, are you able to source that domestically or where do you get the engine?
[00:34:17]  Yeah, I'll plug those guys if I can.
[00:34:20]  That's desert aircraft in Tucson, Arizona.
[00:34:23]  No kidding.
[00:34:24]  Yeah, they build a very reliable engine.
[00:34:32]  And then they have another company called HFE International who take those cores and they do amazing things with those engines.
[00:34:40]  So I give them a little plug there.
[00:34:42]  But they struggle trying to keep up because I've had requests for thousands of drones.
[00:34:54]  You know, six, seven, eight, nine, 10,000 drones, and there ain't no way in hell I could ever do that.
[00:35:01]  You know, I don't have the investment capital to do that.
[00:35:05]  But, you know, the Chinese, you know, the motors, the electric motors that we use in these drones have, you know, copper windings and then they also have magnets in them.
[00:35:17]  And so the Chinese are throttling the magnets because right now, the only place you can really get magnets on a large scale is China.
[00:35:25]  So the Chinese are throttling.
[00:35:28]  Our economy when it comes to drones.
[00:35:32]  So, but again, I think President Trump is right, whether you like him or not.
[00:35:38]  We've got to get that manufacturing back here, you know, because if we don't, we're just going to continue.
[00:35:44]  We're going to be the lag and not the lead.
[00:35:46]  Well, yeah.
[00:35:47]  I mean, completely.
[00:35:49]  The manufacturing left America over a period of decades, long before Trump, even before his first term.
[00:35:56]  Yeah.
[00:35:56]  And bringing that back is difficult because it means Americans would have to get used to paying higher.
[00:36:02]  Prices for things, right?
[00:36:03]  But that supporting that domestic industry can be absolutely critical.
[00:36:08]  But you mentioned copper, right?
[00:36:12]  So We also don't want to do much mining in America because of the environmentalists protesting the mining.
[00:36:19]  Same thing in Western Europe.
[00:36:21]  So we've sort of dumped out to other countries like China, like, you do the mining, you do the super dirty rare earths extraction, and we'll just buy from you.
[00:36:30]  Well, that worked great until it didn't.
[00:36:32]  And now we're in a trade war with China, and we're in an energy war with Russia, and we're in a kinetic war with Iran, and the freaking Strait of Hormuz is closed.
[00:36:41]  So now it's like, wait a minute.
[00:36:44]  We were foolish to let all this go.
[00:36:47]  You know, we need it domestically.
[00:36:49]  I think you agree with that.
[00:36:50]  Yeah.
[00:36:51]  You know, I come from a manufacturing family.
[00:36:54]  You know, my father started a plastics manufacturing plant in our garage when I was four years old.
[00:37:02]  Wow.
[00:37:02]  In 1970.
[00:37:04]  And our very first customer was the Coleman Company.
[00:37:07]  So all of the Coleman coolers, the ice chests, and the straps and the hinges and all of that stuff were all made in my father's plastics manufacturing plant.
[00:37:16]  And that's how I grew up.
[00:37:18]  And my father and my brother, you know, have always been, you know, Kind of like my mentors because they were able to make things happen and they were pioneers of the plastic age.
[00:37:32]  And now, as I watched them evolve into a wonderful size manufacturing company, I also saw all of the manufacturing leave America.
[00:37:48]  I think there was a time where there were 60 manufacturing plants leaving a month.
[00:37:52]  In the United States, all because of going overseas.
[00:37:56]  So, you know, we can talk about the mining and the carbon footprint and all this other crap, which is all very important stuff.
[00:38:09]  But we're either going to get to a point where we're either going to do it or we're not going to do it.
[00:38:17]  We're going to mine here in America or we're not.
[00:38:21]  And the responsibility that we have to bear ourselves is if we do not do this, Then, whatever our future looks like, which appears to be somewhat bleak, we just have to deal with it because that's the decision that we made.
[00:38:34]  Or we have put politicians in positions of power that are not there for us, they're there for them.
[00:38:43]  And oh my gosh, have we seen that for decades upon decades upon decades?
[00:38:48]  So, we as the American people, in my view, and of course, I do plan on running for office at some point, I think that is in my destiny.
[00:38:58]  But I think we as the American people, we have.
[00:39:01]  Failed ourselves because we're not voting the right people into those positions.
[00:39:08]  And when they get put into those positions and they prove to us that we have made a mistake, we do not have the power to remove those people.

=== Battery Materials from China (05:07) ===

[00:39:18]  Yeah, we've, my goodness, we've seen so many promises made on the campaign trail that just blatantly violated, even right now.
[00:39:29]  A lot of people are unhappy with some of Trump's.
[00:39:32]  Decisions and we're supposed to put America first.
[00:39:36]  You know, it hasn't panned out yet the way a lot of people thought.
[00:39:38]  But let me pivot to a different question for you about energy sources.
[00:39:43]  There is a lot of new battery tech that is just emerging on the world stage that has much higher energy density per kilogram of the battery.
[00:39:52]  Now, I know that right now gasoline stores much more energy than a battery, obviously.
[00:39:58]  But there's a company called Donut Lab, they're located in Europe.
[00:40:04]  They claim to have a battery that powers their Vertiv motorcycles that achieves 400 watt hours per kilogram, which is more than double what is typically known right now.
[00:40:16]  Some people don't believe their claims, but they've been doing a lot of testing and demonstrating it publicly.
[00:40:21]  My question to you, sir, is that if battery energy density becomes high enough, would you consider going electric on some of your drone models?
[00:40:32]  Well, we do go electric.
[00:40:35]  Even this aircraft behind me here, we can make electric.
[00:40:39]  But what I find in the industry, and it might sting for some people, but there's a lot of what we call vaporware.
[00:40:50]  Yeah.
[00:40:52]  There's a really good amount of people in this industry that I don't think they're deceiving people on purpose.
[00:41:00]  I just don't think they understand the technology.
[00:41:03]  And the capabilities of their aircraft.
[00:41:06]  So, when you go to a drone show, you're more than likely going to run into a large amount of people that are not properly selling their technology.
[00:41:18]  So, that's my practice for politics later on in life.
[00:41:22]  Yeah, right, right.
[00:41:23]  So, they're misleading their customers about the duration of flight or what?
[00:41:28]  Yeah, you know, the thing is that when things look good on paper, you know, that means a lot, but it doesn't mean.
[00:41:35]  Crap until you take it out into the field and go test it in the real world environment.
[00:41:41]  And that's the only way.
[00:41:43]  And I was, I was subject to that.
[00:41:45]  You know, I mean, my first set of engineers, if they would have told me that the aircraft would fly around the world on AA batteries, I probably would have believed them.
[00:41:54]  Not really.
[00:41:55]  But, but again, you know, the battery technology, there's just some things out there that you can't overcome.
[00:42:03]  There's certain physics that you can't overcome, and that is that you can't charge faster than you discharge.
[00:42:08]  Right, so you when you make the claim that you can charge in the air or you can charge faster than you discharge, then that's a false claim.
[00:42:18]  But the I think you hit the nail on the head when you have this battery technology, that is one of the biggest places in this industry where we have to improve.
[00:42:32]  And the other thing is that we do not make batteries in the United States.
[00:42:38]  We have several wonderful companies out there who are getting the lithium packs from China because, again, you're mining lithium and then you're processing the lithium.
[00:42:50]  And that is, you know, the green energy guys are going to have a heyday with that one.
[00:42:57]  But we don't process that lithium here.
[00:43:00]  So we buy all of the lithium packs here and then we build our batteries here.
[00:43:05]  Right.
[00:43:05]  So there's always, they're marketed as made in America and they are.
[00:43:11]  But the Chinese, you know, the materials come from China.
[00:43:14]  The materials come from China, right?
[00:43:15]  So, but until we can get over this hurdle, you know, we're just going to remain, we're like a herd of turtles stampeding through peanut butter backwards.
[00:43:27]  Okay, great, great visual there.
[00:43:29]  But the reason I ask this is because there are, you know, KATL, C A T L, that's one of the Chinese companies that's probably the leader in battery technology.
[00:43:40]  BYD is another one.
[00:43:42]  They are having breakthroughs that are pretty astonishing.
[00:43:44]  And the donut lab breakthrough, people say that it breaks the laws of physics because it's a solid state battery that can apparently last over 100 years with a daily discharge.
[00:43:55]  But, you know, I think our minds are going to be blown quite a bit here and there.
[00:43:58]  But they still, you know, it's a lot of weight to carry around for the energy density that they have.
[00:44:03]  And my question to you, sir, is that the fact that your drones need gasoline, you know, gasoline isn't necessarily something that the military carries around a lot.
[00:44:15]  They carry diesel or kerosene or something like that, but not gas, right?
[00:44:23]  Is that an issue?

=== Long Range GPS Communication (07:28) ===

[00:44:26]  That would be an issue in certain spots.
[00:44:28]  I mean, gas is pretty readily available.
[00:44:31]  And if you're going to have an aircraft like this, you can either run it on gas or you can actually go to heavy gas, right?
[00:44:41]  Can you?
[00:44:42]  Yeah, you can do that.
[00:44:45]  So it's not that big of an issue.
[00:44:48]  It just runs dirtier or what?
[00:44:50]  Yeah, yeah, it'll run a little bit more dirty.
[00:44:53]  Okay.
[00:44:53]  But, you know, again, still, you know, having a large amount of gas and going into a location, say, let's just say Iran, for an example, you know, that would be a huge logistical challenge to bring a separate set of gas, you know, for something like this, right?
[00:45:14]  So you have to make it so that you can go to heavy gas or diesel.
[00:45:19]  Okay, that makes sense.
[00:45:20]  And then your vertical takeoff technology, that would seem to be a really major advancement to allow deployment in areas or off of ships, for example, that don't have landing like a tarmac, right?
[00:45:34]  What are your use cases for the vertical takeoff?
[00:45:37]  Well, you know, again, you know, this aircraft requires either it could be launched through, you know, like a rail system, a catapult system.
[00:45:47]  The landing may be a bit rough, but, you know, they fly them in the nets and all kinds of stuff.
[00:45:54]  And it's, you know, it's just hard on the aircraft.
[00:45:56]  So having the VTOL capability is paramount in today's world because, again, I spent most of my adult life working on ships, you know, piloting submersible vehicles and a deep sea diver, right?
[00:46:11]  So, You know, the challenging part about that is getting the calculation of the swell perfect because, you know, that's not so easy sometimes.
[00:46:25]  But, and then also you get a lot of interference from the seawater or the water itself just simply because it's reflective, right?
[00:46:33]  So, you know, signals bounce off of the water.
[00:46:36]  So it's a little bit more of a challenge.
[00:46:39]  But just think about this, you know, with this type of aircraft, if you need 30 or 40 yards and then you need open.
[00:46:45]  You know, open area where you don't run into any trees or anything, or you don't have to dip down over trees to go land and flare.
[00:46:54]  You know, that's very challenging.
[00:46:55]  So, again, going out into heavy, you know, densely occupied areas, you know, as far as cities or trees or whatever, as long as you can get that GPS signal to hit that aircraft and you can acquire the satellites that it takes to operate this aircraft.
[00:47:16]  You're good to go.
[00:47:17]  So, again, that VTOL is very, very, very important in today's battlefield.
[00:47:22]  Yeah.
[00:47:23]  Today's world.
[00:47:24]  Let me ask you about the control system, too, and then the communications range, because your aircraft has a lot of range, but for how far can you control it?
[00:47:33]  And do you have your own joystick screen pad or visors, or what are the options here?
[00:47:41]  Yes, you know, this is one of the aircraft that, you know, we actually require that you learn how to fly it manually just because, you know, sometimes technology has hiccups, right?
[00:47:55]  But the communications range, we use military grade communications systems that are, you know, a number of frequencies, but we really stick a lot to 2.4 gigahertz.
[00:48:09]  And then we also use a mesh network.
[00:48:12]  So I don't know if your folks understand mesh network, but.
[00:48:15]  Okay, okay, excellent.
[00:48:17]  So, again, you can hop through a mesh network and gain that range.
[00:48:25]  So, you can do well over 100 miles.
[00:48:27]  And then, also, using a tracking system is very important when you're using just standard radio frequencies.
[00:48:36]  So, you know, you have a swath like this, like a 90 degree directional, you know, you're putting like two watts of power through that, and there's only so far you can go.
[00:48:48]  But if you Shrink that into like a pie, and you're still putting two watts of power through there, then you can gain your range.
[00:48:55]  But if you kind of move it in and shoot like a laser beam of communications to the aircraft and it can track with that same two watts of power, you'll compound your range exponentially.
[00:49:08]  The problem is that if the aircraft is out there flying and you break that communications, your aircraft is going to go into a whatever you program it to do, it can go into loiter or it can go into a return to home.
[00:49:22]  And if you go into return to home, then you'll have to reacquire that communication pipeline.
[00:49:30]  And then you can send the aircraft back out on its mission.
[00:49:33]  So it's not simple.
[00:49:35]  It's not simple.
[00:49:36]  But SATCOM actually is really good.
[00:49:40]  It's just expensive.
[00:49:41]  Okay.
[00:49:42]  But then what's the range, though, from one ground controller to one aircraft?
[00:49:48]  Like, how far can that work?
[00:49:50]  You just described some of the narrowing of the beam, but what kind of range can a user get?
[00:49:57]  Usually on a like an omni directional antenna, if you're using that just basically out of your little radio transmitter, like a futaba or whatever, you know, you'll get less than a mile.
[00:50:08]  If you go into like a 900 megahertz type of antenna, you can get 30 plus miles.
[00:50:19]  If you're using, you know, 2.4 and 2 watts of power and you're using more of a directional type antenna, you can.
[00:50:29]  You can punch out to 40, 50, 60 miles.
[00:50:33]  Wow.
[00:50:34]  And then, if you're using a tracking system, a tracking antenna, which will lock onto the aircraft, then you can punch out past 100 miles, maybe 125 miles, depending on the weather conditions and so on.
[00:50:51]  It's hard to honestly go out and say, well, you can do this much range because if you go out into the environment and something is there that you didn't plan for, It'll cut your range, right?
[00:51:04]  So, and those numbers you're citing, that's direct line of sight, as we say, even though you can't see it because it's so far away, but it's still line of sight for the radio signals, correct?
[00:51:14]  Yes, yeah.
[00:51:15]  And what this aircraft is actually really good for is being that it has a long flight duration, is what you can do is you can take that mesh network.
[00:51:24]  Let's say, for example, you're going to fly out to let's say you need to fly out 200 miles or 300 miles or whatever.
[00:51:32]  You can take this aircraft and you can fly it up to a thousand feet altitude.
[00:51:36]  And then you can create that network.
[00:51:39]  Oh, okay.
[00:51:40]  It'll jump off of that aircraft that's a thousand feet in the air because you have that direct line of sight.
[00:51:46]  And then you have the curvature of the earth, unless you think the earth is flat.
[00:51:50]  Pretty much, I'm convinced it's not flat at this point.

=== Scaling Production to Demand (06:06) ===

[00:51:54]  Yeah.
[00:51:56]  I thought I'd throw that in there for a little.
[00:51:58]  So, yeah.
[00:52:00]  But then you can punch out past that aircraft another 100 miles or more.
[00:52:06]  So you can just piggyback these and just keep going.
[00:52:09]  As long as you have the flight duration in the aircraft, then you can just keep going.
[00:52:15]  Wow.
[00:52:16]  Wow.
[00:52:17]  Okay.
[00:52:17]  Very effective.
[00:52:18]  Well, that's really interesting.
[00:52:20]  Okay.
[00:52:20]  So let me give out your website again.
[00:52:22]  Saxonunmanned.com is where people can find you.
[00:52:27]  And if there's someone out there that wants to order one of these, what's the wait time on a unit?
[00:52:35]  Oh my gosh.
[00:52:36]  Well, right now, right now with the demand that we have, probably three or four months is where we're at right now.
[00:52:45]  Wow.
[00:52:45]  Yeah.
[00:52:47]  The supply chain is somewhat difficult right now for sure.
[00:52:50]  Well, but that's good to have that level of demand for your product, though.
[00:52:54]  Yeah.
[00:52:54]  Yeah, it is.
[00:52:56]  And we're trying to scale the company right now so that we can receive much larger orders.
[00:53:04]  We're going to try to get ourselves into a position to where We can set up the manufacturing to point where we can knock out 50 or so of these a month or more.
[00:53:13]  But these are big aircraft and there's a lot of detail that goes into them.
[00:53:17]  You know, these aren't punched out of an injection mold.
[00:53:22]  These are all handcrafted aircraft.
[00:53:24]  Yeah.
[00:53:24]  Well, I'm wondering, you know, one of the things that China does in automobile manufacturing is a lot of automation, you know, factory automation, robotics, et cetera.
[00:53:33]  And here in America, you know, the Tesla robot, I guess eventually it's got to.
[00:53:39]  Be available.
[00:53:40]  I wonder if it could help with some.
[00:53:42]  I mean, I run, you know, a manufacturing firm for food, and we intend to have robots to help move, you know, move boxes around, move cases around, things like that.
[00:53:52]  But what you're talking about is a lot more complex.
[00:53:55]  Yeah.
[00:53:56]  But, you know, I was the guy that was pissed off when they started getting express things put into grocery stores.
[00:54:01]  You know, I wanted to talk to somebody, but, but again, you know, it's all right.
[00:54:06]  You know, this is a very complex.
[00:54:10]  Aircraft.
[00:54:10]  And, you know, we can go to plastic injection molding or, you know, blow molding or something along those lines to really kick those, you know, those numbers up.
[00:54:22]  But that doesn't do, you know, people any good.
[00:54:25]  You know, my father, you know, he raised me to, if I'm going to be self employed, I'm going to employ people and I'm going to give other people opportunities.
[00:54:33]  Right.
[00:54:33]  So.
[00:54:34]  Well, absolutely.
[00:54:35]  And, yeah, I didn't mean that robots replace humans, but that they can help people get more done.
[00:54:42]  The same amount of people, but maybe doubling your output.
[00:54:46]  Yeah, yeah, for sure.
[00:54:49]  And again, I think that this AI revolution that we're in right now is just, it's so incredibly amazing.
[00:55:02]  But it's also very scary.
[00:55:06]  And I think that my company is probably a ways out before we can actually start putting robots into beefing up our production.
[00:55:13]  Oh, I think so.
[00:55:14]  Yeah.
[00:55:15]  I could be wrong.
[00:55:16]  I could be wrong.
[00:55:16]  But you're right.
[00:55:18]  I think it's a couple of years out.
[00:55:19]  Yeah.
[00:55:20]  We still have robots.
[00:55:21]  Well, my father and brother sold the plant several years ago.
[00:55:24]  But a lot of the stuff that we did for many, many, many years was robots.
[00:55:32]  But that's another dig on us Americans because we as the American people need to kind of get off our butts and go back to work.
[00:55:40]  So don't worry about getting some dirt under your fingernails.
[00:55:44]  Just get out there and go make a living.
[00:55:45]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:55:46]  Well said.
[00:55:47]  All right.
[00:55:48]  John, look, this has been a really amazing conversation, and I've learned a lot.
[00:55:52]  Is there anything else you want to add here before we wrap this up?
[00:55:55]  I, you know, thank you.
[00:55:57]  Thank you, Mike.
[00:55:58]  I just, I see with a lot of the work that I've done and a lot of work, you know, that I've volunteered to do down on the border and in other countries trying to build relations between African nations and the United States that, you know, there's a huge divide in America.
[00:56:15]  And I don't believe that this is something that was not planned.
[00:56:20]  I think that this is in the plan to divide us.
[00:56:23]  But we're in a situation now where we have this conflict.
[00:56:28]  It could potentially get bigger.
[00:56:30]  Hopefully, it doesn't.
[00:56:31]  But we have to, as Americans, we have to come together and leave all of this crap behind us, right?
[00:56:39]  You know, if we are going to hang on to our country, and no matter what you think it needs to look like, we're going to hang on to our country.
[00:56:45]  We all need to just stop, you know, all of the internal strife and just say, all right, you know, we're all Americans.
[00:56:51]  Doesn't matter if you're, you know, Christian or Muslim or Jew or white or black or Mexican or gay or straight or legal or illegal.
[00:56:58]  It doesn't matter.
[00:56:59]  We're all here in this country.
[00:57:00]  We're all Americans.
[00:57:01]  And so.
[00:57:02]  Either we're going to figure it out or we're not.
[00:57:05]  And if we're not going to figure it out, then don't bitch when you don't like the outcome.
[00:57:10]  So that's kind of what I want to leave America with is that, you know, let's figure it out.
[00:57:17]  Let's get together and let's continue to create the most powerful nation in the world.
[00:57:24]  All right.
[00:57:25]  Well said.
[00:57:26]  And I think the innovation of your company is definitely contributing to that.
[00:57:30]  Again, I'm happy that you're making drones here in the heartland of America.
[00:57:34]  And you're in a.
[00:57:36]  You're in a pro freedom state too, as well.
[00:57:39]  So that's a bonus.
[00:57:41]  And to some extent, I am as well.
[00:57:42]  I'm in Texas.
[00:57:43]  And so, you know, we, I think, I think we represent what America was founded on, frankly.
[00:57:49]  So thank you so much for your time today.
[00:57:53]  It's been a lot of fun and wishing you the best.
[00:57:55]  Absolutely.
[00:57:56]  Thank you.
[00:57:57]  Thank you, Mike.
[00:57:57]  And thank you to all of your wonderful listeners.
[00:57:59]  Thank you.

=== Stock Up for Survival (04:04) ===

[00:58:00]  All right.
[00:58:00]  Take care.
[00:58:01]  You too.
[00:58:02]  All right.
[00:58:02]  There you go, everybody.
[00:58:03]  John Ferguson from Saxon Unmanned.
[00:58:06]  For high end, long range drones with lots of applications, feel free to check out his website, Saxon Unmanned.com.
[00:58:19]  So, if you want to catch more of my video interviews, you can find them at brightvideos.com.
[00:58:24]  And yeah, I'm praying for America too.
[00:58:27]  We're in a lot of trouble right now.
[00:58:29]  A lot of what John said is right on.
[00:58:32]  But we have to be willing to work, we have to be willing to innovate and manufacture and not be afraid to get our hands dirty in terms of.
[00:58:40]  Of making things.
[00:58:41]  That's how we, I think, make America great again.
[00:58:45]  If that's still on anybody's radar out there, who knows?
[00:58:49]  But thanks for watching.
[00:58:50]  I'm Mike Adams here for brightvideos.com.
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