Health Ranger - Mike Adams - Brighteon Broadcast News, Jan 29, 2026 - The Day that MAGA Died

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Lot Gold, Silver Quadrupled 00:03:11
	Okay, welcome.
	Today is the day that MAGA died.
	Yeah, that's true.
	Welcome to Bright Chan Broadcast News for Thursday, January 29th, 2026.
	I had to check the calendar there.
	Can't even keep track of the days.
	I've got a lot of things coming up for you today.
	I promised yesterday a special report on the military minerals supply chain.
	That report did not make it into yesterday's broadcast due to a file transfer glitch.
	So that will be included today.
	And it's a hard-hitting report.
	Very good.
	I've also published a story about that at naturalnews.com if you want to have the story version, which is shorter, of course, but it's, you know, sometimes that's what you want.
	I've got a clip coming up from Peter Schiff here about gold and silver.
	And of course, gold and silver prices are continuing to astonish most observers with silver right now at $118.
	And it was cruising through about $115 all day long in the U.S. trading time period while gold shot up to $5,550.
	So, I mean, just, you know, invoking some interesting memories.
	And by the way, for those of you who bought gold and silver, isn't it great that it's functioning exactly as we knew it would?
	It's preserving your wealth.
	And I know that many of you bought a lot of gold and silver.
	The reason I know that just from talking with people.
	I've had people thank me for making them millionaires because of this.
	Well, hey, it wasn't me.
	It was you.
	You made the decision.
	You swapped out fiat currency for gold and silver so you get all the credit.
	I was just providing some intel about where things are going.
	And by the way, it doesn't mean that prices are going to stay exactly here.
	There's going to be some volatility.
	There will be some corrections at some point.
	But my sense is that silver probably the new floor is around $100.
	It seems unlikely it will drop below $100.
	But if it were to, well, I'd be buying more at that point.
	The last time I bought silver, I think it was the last time, was it $30.
	And that was less than a year ago.
	So since then, it has now quadrupled.
	And I talked about it on this podcast.
	You may recall, I said, you know, silver dipped below 30.
	I thought that was a great price.
	And so I just bought a bunch, having it vaulted with our friends at Battalion Metals, of course.
	And I remember in 2022, it was February 22nd.
	That's when Russia launched the special military operation against Ukraine.
	And it was right then that gold hit, it went above 2,000 and it hit, I believe, $2,050.
	So since then, it has obviously way more than doubled and soon it will have tripled.
	That's just gold.
	And silver has, you know, quadrupled in a year.
	So metals are going insane.
Stablecoins Backed by Treasuries 00:15:06
	And this matters.
	This is a big deal because it spells the end of the fiat currency system.
	Well, at least Western fiat currencies nationwide.
	And yes, Western fiat currencies are on the verge of total collapse.
	And one of the things I want to talk to you about today is stablecoins and why stablecoins are so dangerous and why it's a trap to surveil you and it's a trap to enslave you.
	And then after that, we'll get into the day that MAGA died.
	And I've got a couple of special reports on, well, one of them is the breaking point of civil war.
	And then new footage about Alex Pretty, the nurse who was gunned down and murdered by ICE in Minnesota.
	We've got new video footage of that that reveals that ICE actually hunted him down and killed him on purpose because of something that he did 11 days earlier.
	He kicked out a taillight of one of their vehicles.
	So they hunted him down and murdered him.
	We'll get to that.
	And the reason I call this episode the day that MAGA died is because virtually all of MAGA now, almost all conservative MAGA people are justifying the murder of Alex Predi by saying, well, he kicked the taillight out, you know, 11 days earlier.
	And he spat on the closed window of an SUV that ICE was driving.
	So he was mad.
	So he kicked the taillight.
	He broke the taillight and he spat on the window.
	And because of that, almost every conservative influencer says, well, he deserves to be shot and killed because of that.
	So that's why I say this is the day that MAGA died.
	Because you see, the Democrats hate America.
	They hate the founding principles of America.
	And the MAGA conservatives have now completely abandoned the principles, which I'll talk about that coming up soon.
	But first, let's go to the special report about the financial collapse that's coming and stablecoins.
	And we'll start off with a Peter Schiff video clip.
	So here we go.
	All right, welcome to this special report.
	We're going to talk about the dollar collapse that's coming.
	We're going to talk about the trap of stablecoins and how Peter Schiff just ripped the Fox News hosts who are utterly ignorant of anything.
	I mean, I don't know how else to say it.
	I mean, I don't know who's dumber, the Fox News host or the CNN host.
	They're all just room temperature IQ.
	They have no idea what's happening in the world around them.
	They're just reading scripts and they don't know anything.
	So Peter Schiff had to school them on some basic economics of gold and silver.
	So let's go to that clip first.
	And the world is now pulling the rug out from under the U.S.
	The dollar is going to collapse.
	The dollar is going to be replaced by gold.
	Central banks are buying gold to back up their currencies.
	They're getting rid of dollars.
	They're getting rid of treasuries.
	We are headed for a economic crisis, again, that will make the 2008 financial crisis look like a Sunday school picnic.
	The biggest difference between the crisis that we're about to have and the one we had back then is this one is all in America.
	It's not going to be exported to the rest of the world.
	It's not a global financial crisis.
	It's an American financial crisis.
	So there you go.
	Peter Schiff being correct, yet again, quote, the dollar is going to collapse.
	The dollar is going to be replaced by gold.
	He's absolutely correct.
	And I know there are some conservative, I don't know, financial people out there.
	I'm not going to name names.
	I'm not trying to embarrass people on this point.
	But they're saying, oh, there's no way the dollar is going to be replaced.
	It's going to be the world reserve currency forever.
	There's no other alternative, blah, blah, blah.
	Okay, that's complete nonsense.
	The dollar has already been replaced by most of the world.
	The world reserve currency of most of the world is no longer the dollar.
	I mean, that's already the case.
	In other words, dollar reserves is less than 50% of total world reserves right now.
	Okay.
	So anybody saying, oh, the dollar can't be replaced, I'm sorry, you should turn them off.
	They have no idea what they're talking about.
	I don't care what their background is.
	I don't care what presidents they advise, whatever.
	They literally have no idea what they're talking about.
	And there are people like that.
	So here's the thing.
	Gold is the new reserve currency.
	Gold, it's gold.
	It's not bricks right now, although bricks is an infrastructure that's going to be used to move gold around as settlement.
	Okay.
	So in other words, bricks is gold compatible, you could say.
	The dollar is not gold compatible.
	The dollar is fake currency.
	The dollar is going to be worthless and the treasuries are going to be worthless.
	And the stable coins based on the dollar are going to be what?
	Fill in the blank?
	Oh, yeah, worthless.
	It's exactly right.
	You got it.
	Gold is the new world reserve currency.
	Those who have gold will be wealthy.
	Those who have dollars will be impoverished.
	Peter Schiff understands this.
	He's been right again and again and again.
	And by the way, when I say gold, I also mean silver at the same time.
	I guess I should say metals, you know, precious metals, but gold is the monetary metal that will lead the world.
	Silver has a monetary aspect that's very strong and becoming increasingly popular.
	But silver, of course, is a strong industrial metal.
	And right now, silver is actually less liquid than gold because all the silver wholesalers, they're being inundated with people selling silver.
	I talked about this a couple of days ago.
	And the local coin shops and coin dealers, et cetera, little retailers, they're about to shut their doors and say, we can't handle an influx of any more silver.
	And you know why that's happening?
	Well, also, by the way, the refiners are backed up for several months on refining the silver.
	But the reason that's happening is because the people selling silver right now are the low information people who have no idea what it's worth.
	If you sell silver now, that's crazy.
	You know, unless you just happen to need the money for electric bills or something right now.
	But selling silver now, in my view, that's selling yourself short because silver is going to continue to surge for years to come because of the industrial demand and also the collapse of the currencies, especially the dollar.
	So the people selling silver now are the low information people who don't listen to this podcast.
	They're the people who found like, you know, oh, here's grandma's silver, found some old coins, some random stuff.
	Here's some weird one and a half ounce coins.
	Let's take it to a silver coin shop and see if they'll give us something for this, you know?
	And they get a hundred bucks and they're so happy.
	I got a hundred dollars.
	You know, they're so happy.
	That's the kind of silver that's being sold right now.
	It's these weird lots and weird formats and it's not, it's not the wealthy people unloading silver.
	Not by a long shot.
	Wealthy people are holding silver and accumulating silver and gold, even at these prices.
	Someone I know just told me he just bought a lot more silver at $100.
	You know, recently, it was $100.
	And so he loaded up.
	I know, I guess I can say this publicly because SGT report, he was tweeting about this.
	He said that he made a major purchase just recently.
	And of course, we all know it's gold and silver because he was talking about it later.
	At these current prices.
	Yeah.
	So a lot of people who are in the know are purchasing everything they can at these prices.
	Now, does that mean it's guaranteed to keep going up in a straight line?
	No, no, it won't.
	It'll bounce around.
	There'll be down days.
	I mean, heck, silver plunged, what, $10 in one day a couple of days ago.
	And then it rebounded from that.
	So the volatility is off the charts.
	That's for sure.
	That's why I always say, you know. dollar cost average into this if you want to get more physical gold and silver.
	All right.
	So here's the thing.
	The dollar is dying.
	The dollar is going to collapse.
	And what's the alternative that's going to be pushed on us?
	It's very clear.
	Now, it's going to be government sanctioned stable coins.
	Stable coins, which, and I got to credit Catherine Austin Fitz on this, she had a really great description.
	She said stable coins are basically tiny digital U.S. treasuries.
	Because the stable coins that the government will advocate for, those are the stable coins that are forced to buy a bunch of treasuries.
	And then they say they're backed by the dollar.
	But they're not really backed by the dollar.
	They're backed by debt that's denominated in dollars.
	That's a very different thing.
	They're backed by treasuries.
	And since eventually the U.S. Empire is going to default on the treasuries, every stable coin, a so-called stablecoin that's backed by U.S. treasuries, and this is my prediction, okay?
	And this is going to make some waves.
	I know somebody's going to lose their minds when I say this, but in my opinion, every stablecoin that's backed by treasuries is going to go to zero.
	Okay.
	Why do you think that Tether has purchased, what is it, over 100 tons of gold?
	I don't remember the exact number, but Tether is buying gold like a nation, at nation levels.
	Tether's buying gold, and Tether has now a stable coin tied to the price of gold, but not redeemable for gold.
	Okay.
	That's totally different.
	There's also, there's been another coin that's been out for a long time, Paxos, I think is what it's called, that is tied to actually audited vaulted gold.
	I don't know a lot of details about Paxos.
	I don't hold any, but from what I hear from people, it's actually more trustworthy than Tether gold, but whatever.
	Don't buy anything in the crypto space or the stablecoin space until you do a lot of research and know what you're doing.
	But I can assure you of this, or at least this is my opinion, every stablecoin based on treasuries will go to zero.
	But those are the stable coins that the Trump administration and Besent and the Treasury, that's what they will want you to buy.
	Because that's how Trump and Besent or Besant can sell more treasuries and then refinance the debt and keep printing more currency to fund more wars, to fund the Pentagon and bombing Iran.
	And heck, at this point, funding, you know, ICE agents that run around the cities shooting Americans.
	That's how it's done.
	It's by printing currency.
	That's how that's funded.
	And in order to print currency, they need more people to buy the treasuries.
	So they're rolling out stable coins that are really, as Catherine Austin Fitz says, they're really just tiny digital treasuries.
	I don't know about you, but I'm not interested in holding treasuries at all, not even digital ones.
	And to make matters worse, it's a prison state system.
	Aaron Day tweets about this all the time.
	Aaron Day that I've had on my show, and he's brilliant, and he's right.
	He keeps talking about how a lot of the crypto supporters are basically supporting their own prison.
	Because when you have stable coins that are controlled by the government, it's programmable money, which means they can cut you off at any time.
	They can monitor all your activities.
	They can confiscate it at any time.
	Because Tether works very closely with the Trump administration.
	So even if the government says we're going to endorse, let's say, Tether, Tether will follow the government's orders when the government tells Tether to seize this wallet or block this wallet or seize this account.
	Basically, it's an economic sanction like in the Swift system sanctioning Russia.
	Well, in a Tether system, the U.S. government can sanction your Tether wallet, and they have done so.
	There's been all kinds of confiscations of Tether.
	I mean, hundreds of millions of dollars, I believe, over the last few years in Tether upon orders of the government.
	So if you go into stable coins that are endorsed by the government, that are tracked, that are not private, and that are backed by treasuries, you're going to lose everything, including your privacy.
	Okay.
	So please, everybody, listen very carefully here.
	If you've listened to me on gold and silver and you've earned a lot of money on that, listen to me now.
	Don't go into government-sanctioned stablecoins because those will go to zero.
	If you want to go into crypto, the only crypto I can recommend is private crypto or privacy-oriented crypto.
	And at that point, you know, Monero and Xano are the two best that I'm aware.
	Well, Firo is also well known, but not as large of a market, not as liquid.
	I don't recommend Zcash because it mostly operates in a non-private mode.
	Okay.
	People think Zcash is private, but it isn't most of the time, like 99% of the time or whatever the number is.
	But Monero is always private.
	Xano is always private.
	And Firo, I believe Firo is also always private.
	I'm pretty sure it is.
	So that's why governments will never endorse Monero or Xano or Firo or any of the privacy coins because they want to be able to control you through the stable coins.
	Stable coins are not private.
	Stable coins are easily controllable.
	Again, programmable money, but basically a financial slave state.
Losing Value to Stablecoins 00:12:56
	You become a slave to the government while you're funding government debt.
	What could go wrong?
	But that's what Trump is going to be pushing here.
	And that's the plan.
	So as they collapse the dollar, which appears to be happening on purpose, they're going to crush the Western banking system.
	We're going to have cascading bank failures.
	And then they're going to come along and say, but we rescued you in this digital stablecoin system.
	All the money that was lost in your bank account, guess what?
	Here it is over here.
	You just have to sign up for the stablecoin and download this app and scan your eyeballs.
	Give us all your biometrics and your location data and your social security number, blah, blah, blah.
	Which, of course, your bank already has all that.
	This is way beyond know your customer.
	This is spy on your customer.
	This is surveill your customer, SYC.
	Okay, that's what's coming.
	So if you go along with all that, then you'll have a stablecoin wallet.
	And then every time you buy something with a stablecoin wallet, the government knows exactly what you bought.
	They know if you bought bullets or firearms or groceries or condoms or anything, pharmaceuticals, right?
	Anything.
	Whatever you bought, they know.
	And they can block you from buying the things they don't want you to buy.
	They can even block it by category.
	Oh, you've had, you bought too many rounds of ammo this month.
	We have a limit.
	You can only have 50 rounds of ammo per month.
	You know, I can imagine that coming.
	And they can enforce it through the stablecoin system.
	And in addition to that, the government is saying that they're going to tokenize every asset, every stock in the stock market, every bond, every financial instrument is going to be tokenized and put on the blockchain that they control.
	That means you won't be able to buy and sell stocks without the government knowing what you own, what you bought, what you sold, how much gain you had, etc.
	That also means they can confiscate all your stocks at any time, the great taking, via stablecoins.
	They can just take it because now it's just a digital token.
	You see?
	This is why physical gold and silver make so much sense.
	Physical gold and silver are difficult for governments to confiscate.
	They can try, but even back in the, what was it, 1930s or something, even then, most of that confiscation was voluntary.
	You know, the government said, oh, you got to turn in your gold and we'll give you, what, $20 an ounce or something.
	And at that time, Americans were mostly obedient.
	Oh, we have to help our country.
	Yeah.
	Because they didn't realize they're being royally screwed by their government at that time.
	You know, it took decades or generations for people to figure that out.
	But back then, people just showed up.
	Oh, here, I'm an obedient citizen here.
	Have my gold at $20 an ounce.
	And people turned in their gold voluntarily.
	Most people did.
	And then after that happened, then the government revalued the gold at what, $35 an ounce?
	So basically, the government just, you know, ripped everybody off.
	Of course, they did.
	But you know who was wise?
	Is the people who didn't turn in their gold.
	People who just buried it, stored it.
	Did any of those people get prosecuted?
	I don't know.
	I doubt it.
	Maybe.
	But if you just sat on it and buried it or hid it and didn't talk about it, nobody knew.
	And those people just waited out the gold confiscation years.
	And then gold prices kept going up and up and up.
	And now, today, that gold is worth over 100 times, like actually more than 200 times what it was worth in the 1930s.
	So if you just held on to the gold, or, you know, if your granddaddy had held on to the gold or your great-granddaddy, then you'd be wealthy today.
	You'd be a millionaire, probably.
	It depends on how much gold, but you get the idea.
	See, the government doesn't want you to have any means of storing wealth, and so they want to control and digitize and monitor everything.
	That's what stable coins are for.
	So the only way to actually gain wealth in the system is to have wealth that is outside the system.
	Let me say that again, in case you missed it.
	The only way to gain wealth as this system is operating is to operate outside the system, period.
	Algorithmically, you will never be allowed to gain real wealth within the system because the system is rigged.
	Of course it is.
	Obviously, it's rigged.
	They will confiscate it.
	They will tax it.
	They will lose it.
	They will steal it.
	Whatever it takes.
	They'll take everything you own.
	Oh, force majeure, you know, it's gone.
	They'll do whatever is necessary.
	Bank failure.
	Oh, it's gone.
	Cyber attack, it's gone.
	The only way to have wealth is to do so outside the system.
	And from what I know, after many, many years of research and interviews, I mean, I've interviewed thousands of people and I'm a very smart researcher myself.
	I've got a broad collection of knowledge that, frankly, very few people have the, you know, the broad collection of knowledge spanning all these different areas.
	I'm not saying I'm the smartest person on any one area, but I know a lot about a lot of topics because of my work, because of my job, because of what I do.
	I'm a writer, I'm a researcher, I'm an interviewer, I'm a content creator, right?
	And I've been interested in this in a long time.
	I say all that to tell you this.
	In my conclusion, the best things to own to survive everything that's coming, which includes the dollar collapse, the best things to own are gold, silver, land, ammo, and private crypto.
	And of course, you know, storable food counts, everything, you know, cordless tools with spare batteries, diesel fuel, those things.
	But we'll put those all in a separate category of mostly barter items.
	But in terms of real wealth, it's gold, it's silver, it's land, and then it's private crypto.
	Notice in that collection, I didn't say stablecoins based on the US dollar.
	Nope, because that's not a form of wealth.
	That's a form of debt.
	Now, there is, interestingly, there is a stablecoin that Aaron Day talks about called FUSD, which I think stands for F the USD, by the way.
	That's a stablecoin token built on top of the Xano blockchain.
	That is tied to the dollar, but it's a privacy dollar stablecoin, and people don't really hold those.
	They use them for transactions to erase any kind of tracking or surveillance of the dollar transaction.
	So FUSD is much better than using Tether.
	You know, the dollar tether.
	USDT, I think, is what that is.
	So if you can use FUSD on the Xano blockchain, use that, and then you have privacy.
	But don't hold it.
	Don't hold a bunch of it because the dollar keeps losing value.
	And that's not going to stop.
	The dollar is going to keep losing value until it hits something very close to zero.
	And everything that Trump is doing right now as president seems to be accelerating that.
	And this war with Iran that Trump just seems committed to initiating, this is going to be devastating for the US dollar because the whole world is going to continue its mass exodus away from the dollar.
	And also probably a war with Iran would cause energy prices to skyrocket.
	And then you're going to have, after some lag period, then you're going to have massive inflation in the United States, rising fuel and energy prices, rising transportation prices, resulting in rising food prices in the grocery stores just in time for the election, the midterm elections.
	So Trump should tread very carefully, I suppose, before attacking Iran because that's only going to collapse support for the US dollar.
	All right.
	So that's my assessment of where we are.
	I'm not your financial advisor, obviously.
	Do your own research.
	But if you want gold and silver, you want to get physical or you want stored gold and silver, talk to our sponsor, Battalion Metals, co-founded by Tucker Carlson.
	And you can find them at metalswithmike.com and use discount code Ranger and they'll wave the shipping insurance fee.
	But know this, they are inundated with demand right now.
	All these companies, I was listening to Peter Schiff today.
	Peter Schiff said his company's voicemail had 150 unreturned voicemails because they just don't have time to answer all the calls.
	That's probably true with Battalion Metals, I would imagine.
	I don't know.
	I haven't tried to call them.
	I did text Chris Olson and he didn't text back at all.
	I just said, hey, Chris, I know you're busy, but give me a heads up when you're able to.
	And haven't heard anything since then?
	I imagine Chris Olson and Peter Schiff's crew and all those people and Andy Sheckman.
	I imagine and Bill Holter.
	I bet you that they're all working 20-hour days right now.
	Madness.
	And there are people selling and there are people buying on both sides of this equation.
	And everybody's like panicked.
	People are buying in a hurry.
	Like, I got to have it now before it goes up another $10.
	And then people are selling also in a pan.
	I got to sell now before the bubble crashes, they think, which is hilarious.
	They're going to be kicking themselves in six months, you know, when gold and silver are much higher, I think.
	And oh, by the way, did you know that Peter Schiff's operation allows you to buy metals with Bitcoin?
	Because I think they have a BitPay component on their website.
	So if you want to get out of Bitcoin, which is going nowhere lately, and you want to get into metals, you can do that through Peter Schiff's company.
	Schiff Gold, I think, is what that's called.
	They're not a sponsor or anything.
	I'm just saying they will take crypto.
	Some crypto.
	I don't think they take Monero, by the way.
	Monero is the black sheep of crypto.
	Monero gets kicked off all the exchanges, but it has privacy, so it has intrinsic value.
	That's why people love to hold on to Monero and use it for certain things.
	Anyway, that's the story.
	Anyway, that's my report.
	And if you want to conduct financial research and learn about risk management and things like that, let me give you a couple of free resources, which is our AI engines.
	You can go to brightanswers.ai.
	That's our AI answer engine.
	It's got deep research functionality.
	Everybody loves it.
	I mean, I get so many compliments on that engine because the answers are just exhaustively comprehensive and amazing on every question, it seems.
	So you can ask it about gold, silver, treasuries, you know, interest rates, risk reductions, swaps, puts, options, calls, futures, whatever.
	It knows all that stuff.
	You can ask it there.
	It's free to use.
	That's at brightanswers.ai.
	You can also go to our book engine at brightlearn.ai, and you can either create your own book there for free about silver or gold or whatever you want.
	Or if you just go to the books that have already been published, which is well over 28,000 now, you can go to books.brightlearn.ai and there you can search for the word silver or gold or stocks or crypto or stable coins or whatever.
	And you're going to get a ton of books that come up that you can download for free.
Day That MAGA Died 00:04:14
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	So if you've ever had difficulty getting emails from Bright Learn, that's about to change.
	We have finally resolved some of the email issues, which is pretty difficult, actually.
	So check all that out.
	And thank you for listening.
	I'm Mike Adams here of naturalnews.com and brighttown.com.
	Take care.
	All right.
	Hope you enjoyed that report.
	Now, I've got another special report coming up for you here about the military minerals supply chain collapse.
	And then we'll get into the day that MAGA died topics, which are pretty disturbing for me.
	I don't know.
	Maybe for you as well.
	I want to live in a country of people that have principles.
	I don't know.
	Is that a weird thing to say?
	Since we all talk about the First Amendment, wouldn't it be great if we actually believed it?
	Yeah.
	Or the Second Amendment or the Fourth Amendment or the Fifth Amendment or the Tenth Amendment or the 14th or what have you.
	And some of the other ones too.
	A lot of people love to talk about all these things, but when it comes down to it, they don't really believe in them.
	They don't, because they don't exercise them at all.
	They violate them.
	And that's why I say that this is the day that MAGA died.
	But it's not just MAGA dying.
	It's also the MAGA military or Trump's military that's also dying.
	Our military is being strangled because of a supply chain crisis.
	Lack of minerals and rare earths specifically that go into military weapons production, but also communications equipment, security equipment, all kinds of things.
	And those are the rare earths, dysprosium and neodymium and terbium, the whole song, the elements song that would be fun to play.
	We could go through all of them.
	But they're not all rare, by the way.
	The rare earths that the military needs, our military, are not readily available in the world.
	And China has a stranglehold on them because the U.S. has been, what's the word?
	Well, we'll just say lackadaisical.
	There's a word for you.
	Lackadaisical for the last couple of decades, thinking that we could always get minerals from China.
	And now maybe we can't.
	And now the world is breaking apart in terms of supply chains.
	And the West is finding out, well, we really don't have, you know, we don't have an infrastructure of these minerals.
	And so we can't really build weapons in America, which is going to make war in the Middle East very difficult to pursue over the long run.
	You know, America can bomb the smithereens out of Iran for a few days, even a couple of weeks.
	But beyond that, America is out of ammo.
	America's done.
	Can't really run a prolonged war, not against Iran, not against Russia, certainly not against China.
	And I'm not sure that anyone has told Trump this.
	I think Trump thinks of the U.S. military the way Hollywood depicts Rambo, who never runs out of ammo.
	Wherever Rambo is in the movie, there's always a fully loaded machine gun.
	And no matter how many rounds he fires off, it never runs out.
	That's an amazing machine gun.
	It's the never-ending machine gun, right?
	It's always in the Hollywood movies.
	That's the way Trump thinks about the military.
	We can just keep fighting forever.
	We can dominate.
	We can bomb.
	We can do whatever forever.
	And that's not real.
	That's a comic book version of where we are with the military right now.
	That's not reality.
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	And by the way, I've written about this.
	You can find my article at naturalnews.com.
	And I've got a lot more articles coming.
	I'm now publishing anywhere from two to five articles a day on naturalnews.com.
	And they're amazing articles too.
	Well researched because, of course, I have AI research agents helping me with all the research and everything.
	So I'm able to get a lot more articles published.
	But let's jump into that military minerals supply chain collapse report.
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	Well, we are in the desperate final chapter collapse of the U.S. Empire and the U.S. dollar.
	Maybe you could call it the debt empire.
	That's really what it's become.
	Welcome to the special report.
	I'm Mike Adams, the Health Ranger.
	And I'm not here to rub your nose in doom and gloom, actually.
	I'm here to help you navigate this situation.
	But in order to do so, we need to know where we are in history.
	It's good.
	It's like you ever go to a giant mall and you're lost?
	Like, where am I?
	You know, and you look at the map and it says you are here.
	That's what this is.
	In terms of history, you are here.
	And where is here?
	Well, that's what I'm attempting to describe is where here is, because here is a very dangerous place in terms of history.
	So I like to listen to a lot of different special analysts and podcasters.
	I learn a lot from other experts.
	One of the things that makes me so well-informed is that I realize that I don't know everything and I need to turn to other experts to help me understand and interpret the world.
	And in doing this, there are several really well-informed people that I like to listen to, like Alex Kraner is one of them.
	But also in terms of finances, as you know, I interview Andy Sheckman on a regular basis.
	He's extremely well-informed.
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	There's also Luke Groman, who I have not yet interviewed.
	I hope to in the future.
	But Luke Groman was on a podcast recently and he was explaining something that was really intriguing.
	And I think he nailed it.
	And I'm paraphrasing my understanding of what he said.
	But essentially, Luke Groman is saying that one way to look at what Trump is doing with this seemingly desperate grab for minerals and for oil resources is to understand that we are now in the last desperate stage of empire.
	And that if you don't grab all these minerals, that the United States of America will not be able to manufacture any military weapons after about a year or less from now because we don't have the supply chains of these rare earth minerals that are necessary to make the weapons.
	And, you know, what are we talking about?
	You've heard them called rare earths, but they are elements like terbium or neodymium, which is used in magnets or dysprosium or even titanium.
	I mean, there's a long list of them.
	And silver is one of them now becoming more rare as the physical is vanishing from the marketplace.
	But in order to make the F-35 fighter jet, the stealth fighter, whatever that thing is, in order to make it, you got to have all these minerals.
	In order to make cruise missiles, in order to make ICBMs, you know, it goes on and on.
	In order to make modern naval vessels, you have to have these rare earths.
	And the United States of America does not have a supply chain of these rare earths.
	For decades, we depended on China to sell them to us.
	And so China dominates rare earth manufacturing or refining is the correct term and exporting, and they have for decades.
	And there are a number of reasons for that.
	One is that it's technically very difficult.
	But secondly, it's also incredibly toxic.
	And so China has been willing to, number one, invest in the R ⁇ D to have the technology to extract these rare earths out of basically dirt, you know, dirt and rock.
	So they take in barges filled with dirt and rock.
	And then out of that, they will extract, you know, grams or kilograms of various rare earths.
	I mean, and that's why they're called rare, by the way.
	It's not that they're actually only located in China.
	No, they're everywhere.
	They're all over the planet.
	But they're only present in very minuscule concentrations compared to the rest of the soil, dirt, or rock.
	So, for example, I'm just taking a guess, but let's take neodymium.
	Even in neodymium-rich mining areas, the neodymium itself may only be present at small single-digit milligrams per kilogram of material, or maybe it's even micrograms.
	It just depends on the mineral.
	But China has developed the technology to extract these.
	And also, China is willing to use the toxic methods, toxic chemicals, toxic runoff, because China really doesn't care about its environment at all.
	And so the whole world said, well, let's let China pollute its country with the refining of these metals, and then we'll just buy from China.
	And that worked until recently, when Trump got into power and started running the trade wars and punishing China and saying to China, well, you can't buy energy from Russia or we're going to tariff you and demanding to India, you're not allowed to buy oil from Russia.
	So Trump decided to go full gangsta.
	And he's trying to run the world like a gangster boss and to dictate to every country who they're allowed to sell to.
	As a result, China has at times said, well, we're cutting off rare earths to the United States.
	And that's gone back and forth.
	At one point, this was last year, I think April, maybe it was the April or May timeline.
	Did you know that Ford had to shut down its automobile manufacturing in America for several, a few days, because of China's export restrictions on neodymium material that's used in magnets that's used in Ford vehicles?
	So China proved that it can shut down the entire U.S. automobile manufacturing industry just like that.
	So then Trump caved to China.
	A lot of people don't know this.
	Trump caved into China while the White House announced, oh, we dominated them.
	They caved to us.
	Nope.
	Trump caved to China and said, we're going to back off the tariffs because China agreed to reallow the exporting of neodymium.
	That's actually what happened.
	You'll never hear that from Trump, by the way, because Trump is always, you know, I won.
	I got the deal of the century.
	Not really.
	He actually got owned by China, but that's not the way the White House describes it.
	Nevertheless, here we are in a situation right now where what Luke Groman is describing is, I believe, accurate.
	The United States of America, its military, regardless of how much money you print, because you can't print minerals, okay?
	You can't print weapons, you can't print artillery, etc.
	So regardless of how much money or currency you print, you can't create dysprosium out of nothing.
	It doesn't actually work, it turns out.
	You can try, but the universe laughs at you.
	The table of elements mocks you.
	So Trump is in a mad dash to try to find minerals to replace China's exporting of rare earths.
	Because if we don't find those, then once a war with China begins, which seems like we're on that path, or maybe a larger war with Russia or a war with Iran, once the next world war gets going, the U.S. will run out of ammunition.
	That means running out of missiles, running out of artillery, running out of fighter jets, whatever.
	Now, the U.S. talks a good game in terms of bluffing.
	Oh, we can hit you hard.
	And they can.
	They can.
	The U.S. can hit anybody hard for about two weeks.
	And then they're out of missiles.
	The destroyers and the aircraft carriers or whatever, all the frigates, all the naval vessels, they can launch, they can kick ass, do a lot of damage at first, and then they have to go home and reload all the missiles.
	Well, where do those missiles come from?
	They come out of storage, and there's not much left in storage because the U.S. shipped everything already to Ukraine, or almost everything.
	So the U.S. is not sitting on any real stockpiles of weapons, not anti-tank weapons.
	Oh, and the U.S. also shipped everything to Israel to try to defend Israel last summer against Iran's incoming missiles during the so-called 12-day war, which isn't over, by the way.
	So there are no spare Patriot missile interceptor rounds, you know, or whatever they're called, interceptors.
	There are no spares anywhere.
	There's no spare high Mars missiles or rockets or whatever, whatever terminology people are using these days.
	Whatever you want to call them, there's nothing left.
	And so the U.S. can't fight a sustained war with anybody.
	The U.S. can kick ass for a couple of weeks, and that's it.
	And the only way for the U.S. to be able to have a sustained war is to crank up manufacturing, which means you have to crank up the extraction and the refining of rare earths.
	Now, in order to do that, oh, also I should mention, the U.S. gets most of its enriched uranium from Russia.
	So the U.S. also doesn't have any kind of real domestic refining of uranium, not at scale.
	There's one, maybe two companies that do that in the United States.
	They are in no way poised to keep up with the capacity that would be needed during a global conflict.
	So we buy uranium from Russia, and then we do further processing to turn it into weapons-grade uranium.
	Some of that happens domestically, but again, not at sufficient scale.
	So I did a special report on this a couple of months ago.
	Turns out it would take us 20 to 25 years of infrastructure investment in order to get the United States to a level where it could be self-reliant with uranium just for nuclear weapons.
	That's 20 to 25 years out.
	It turns out that it's a similar number for building up the infrastructure of refining rare earths.
	So if you want to refine rare earths in America and become self-reliant on rare earth minerals, all the ones I mentioned that are used in military applications, that's going to take you 20 to 25 years.
	And that's assuming there's even a state that will let you do it within their borders because none of the states want this to happen in their state because it's so toxic.
	It's so environmentally hazardous.
	And that's also assuming you can find people that want to work at the toxic refineries.
	And that's assuming that, you know, OSHA will even allow it to take place or the EPA or, you know, you're going to have to go through mountains of paperwork to try to do this anywhere in the United States.
	And I don't even think it's possible, actually.
	I don't think it's possible.
	Now, there's a coal mine in Wyoming that announced a few months ago that they're going to start doing some rare earths extraction as a byproduct of coal processing.
	That's great.
	That's awesome.
	Yeah.
	That will give you milligrams per month, maybe.
	Milligrams.
	I mean, it's not even going to be 1% of the need of the U.S. military.
	It's a joke.
	It's basically a publicity stunt to announce that.
	Yeah, we're doing our own rare earths now.
	Yeah.
	The amount of rare earths that you extract, you know, could fit in a coffee cup every month.
	That's not going to carry the military.
	It's not going to carry industry.
	Okay.
	So you're just running a pilot program up there is what you're running.
	And that's not at scale.
	And it's never going to be at scale.
	So since the U.S. is so far behind, Trump is desperate to find other sources of these minerals before the whole world breaks down into a complete cutoff of international sources of these minerals.
	That's what's happening.
	Trump's trying to grab the mines, even though it's actually not going to work because we don't have the refining capabilities, but he's trying to grab the mines in Venezuela.
	He's trying to grab control of mines everywhere, including in Africa, trying to do deals.
	Greenland is part of this as well to control the routes and also control some of the mining.
	This is about minerals extraction, but it's too late.
	It's too late.
	I mean, I don't know, give Trump kudos if you want.
	He's trying.
	He's giving it the old college try, as they say.
	But it's too little too late.
	It's kind of like with the power grid.
	China is 20 years ahead of the United States in building out its power grid infrastructure.
	That's too late for us.
	We can't compete with China in the race to superintelligence because we're 20 years too late.
	You know, you can't just create a power grid overnight.
	You can't print money and build kilowatt hours or gigawatt hours.
	It doesn't work.
	Same thing with rare earths extraction.
	You know, you can say, oh, we're going to start extracting now.
	Okay, great.
	Anybody can say it, but you're not going to be able to replace what you used to get out of China without about a 20-year investment in infrastructure and knowledge and science and environmental paperwork and all this.
	So the outcome is already determined.
	It's already determined.
	This race has already been won by China.
	It's over.
	If there is a war, the U.S., it might make a good showing for a couple of weeks, and then it's done.
	And then what does the U.S. have left when it runs out of missiles?
	All it has left at that point is nuclear weapons.
	And that's where this is going.
	So, see, the first nation to use nuclear weapons in the coming war will almost certainly be the United States.
	If not Israel, which is still basically, you know, U.S. weapons.
	But it'll be the United States because the U.S. has nothing else on the table, no other options.
	After it runs out of conventional missiles, cruise missiles, bombers, fighter jets, whatever, then it's going to resort to nuclear weapons.
	The thing is, the U.S. is also 20 years behind on nuclear weapons.
	So we're still sitting on this old Minuteman technology.
	Really, it's from the 1980s.
	And meanwhile, Russia has, of course, had tremendous innovation in this area with hypersonic missiles and Oreshnik missiles, which currently are not nuclear, but they could be.
	They could be turned nuclear.
	China has advanced nuclear weapons technology and anti-ship technology also, you know, area of denial batteries for medium-range missiles all throughout the Taiwan Straits and that whole area, South Pacific.
	China, Russia, and even Iran.
	Iran now has a ballistic missile that can reach the United States.
	Can they mount a nuclear weapon on it?
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	Of course they can.
	It's trivial.
	Of course they can.
	So, and then there's North Korea, you know.
	So you've got multiple countries around the world.
	Pakistan has nukes also, not that they have any that can reach the United States, but they have nukes that can reach U.S. allies.
	But the point is that if the U.S. takes this nuclear, then the U.S. loses big time.
	The U.S. is wiped out in the retaliation strikes.
	But Trump is kind of a madman.
	And he's living in a fantasy land thinking that he will never lose, that the U.S. military is always the strongest and the most dominant, and we can win everything.
	And we're the only superpower.
	And everybody else is just a third world country.
	That's what Trump thinks.
	And unfortunately, his assessment is factually outdated by decades.
	He doesn't realize that Russia has advanced weapons or China has advanced weapons.
	He doesn't know that at all.
	So Trump is going to make bad decisions probably based on bad information.
	And Trump could get us into a world war that he can't finish other than to use nuclear weapons.
	And then that's the end of America.
	So if a war even starts, if you start to see America attacking Iran with a big assault force, just understand that America is shooting off almost all its weapons inventory onto Iran while China is sitting back and basically smiling and saying, well, there goes the USA expending their entire inventory on Iran.
	And then China can just say, now we're going to take Taiwan.
	Or now we're going to do whatever we want because the U.S. is basically defenseless at this point, other than the nuclear weapons.
	And China will be arriving at a similar conclusion as well, involving Ukraine or anything else they want to do.
	So the U.S. doesn't have the depth of weapons inventory, and it doesn't have the supply chains of the rare earth minerals.
	It doesn't have the knowledge, even the technology of refining those minerals.
	And it certainly does not have self-sufficiency of those supply chains domestically in order to churn out the number of military weapons that would be necessary to fight a world war.
	In other words, the United States of America has already lost the next world war.
	And it's not all Trump's fault, just to be clear.
	He's just oblivious of where we are in history.
	Trump didn't create this whole situation.
	I mean, he contributed to it, especially in his first term, but so did a lot of other presidents.
	Obama in particular really worked to sabotage this nation and to make it so that America could not fight a world war.
	So that's where we are, folks.
	And it's wise to plan accordingly.
	If Trump starts a war, it could probably be, it could very easily be the last war that America ever fights.
	It could be the end of America.
	So be very cautious what you cheer for.
	Those of you who want to cheer for, you know, bombing Iran, yeah, be careful what you ask for.
	You bomb Iran today, the world nukes America sooner or later.
	Major U.S. cities melted in a giant mushroom cloud.
	That's where this is headed.
	And Trump doesn't realize that.
	So, okay, in the meantime, stay prepared.
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	Okay, so welcome to the special report.
	We now have the perfect storm conditions in the United States for a full-blown conservative, MAGA-powered Khmer Rouge mass killing of political, you know, their political enemies.
	Anybody on the left, we've seen this now.
	I watched in horror as virtually every mainstream prominent conservative influencer from Matt Walsh to Jack Pasobik and a long list of others essentially justified the government killing of Alex Pretty because 11 days earlier, Alex Pretty had kicked out a taillight of a government vehicle and was not arrested for it and was never charged or fined for doing that.
	So we've seen this before in history.
	We've seen when one political faction gets whipped up into a fervor.
	You know, we saw this in Nazi Germany.
	The Nazis were whipped up into a fervor where they stood back and said, yeah, they think they should round up all the Jews and gas them to death.
	And the Germans said, that's great for them.
	And they supported it.
	We saw the same thing with the actual Khmer Rouge in Cambodia.
	And with Stalin and with Chairman Mao.
	And there are many other massacres that have taken place.
	Rwanda, for example, over the last several decades.
	In every case, we saw citizens get emotionally worked up to the point where they completely abandoned anything resembling the rule of law.
	And they just wanted government to be the weapon of violence against their political enemies.
	And so I tweeted about this.
	I said, I said, you know, the last three days have revealed that the phrase conservative principles is an oxymoron.
	Now, by the way, before I continue, I have conservative principles, but I'm actually principled.
	And probably you have conservative principles or some of them as well.
	And you're actually principled.
	So I'm not talking about you.
	I'm not talking about me.
	I'm talking about what is the sort of the mass mainstream conservative influencers.
	They have abandoned their principles.
	I said, 99% of MAGA conservatives, it turns out, have no principles at all.
	The very same conservatives who claim to be pro-life and who support small government and who demand constitutional protections for the citizenry under the rule of law actually believe that a lawless, unconstitutional gang of government execution squads has the right to take your life with no trial at all.
	See, that's where the rubber meets the road right there.
	Anybody can say they have principles.
	The question is, do you live by them?
	Do you espouse those principles?
	Do you believe in them for others too?
	Or are you only arguing for principles when your party's not in power?
	You know, when the Democrats were in power, it was very easy for conservatives to say, oh, well, we have rights.
	You know, we have the Second Amendment right.
	We have the First Amendment right.
	We have the right to protest on January 6th.
	We have the right to carry guns.
	Teachers should carry guns.
	On and on and on.
	It's easy to say that when you're not in power.
	And then when your party gets in power, oh, all of a sudden that completely shifts.
	Then it's like, use government to kill people.
	You know, use government as a weapon of coercion and violence against our political enemies.
	That's what most of conservative MAGA has now become.
	And again, I'm not saying that applies to you listening to this because obviously you're a critical thinker.
	Otherwise, you wouldn't be listening to this podcast.
	But it's possible I may have offended a few people.
	You know, so be it.
	It's very clear.
	You can see what's happening.
	Just go on social media.
	You'll see conservatives abandoning conservative principles.
	You know who isn't abandoning?
	Ron Paul and Daniel McAdams of the Ron Paul Institute.
	He's with me on this.
	And so is Rand Paul.
	We are, you know, we're a small number of people who still actually have principles.
	We believe in due process.
	We believe in the rule of law.
	We believe that government should not be invoked as a weapon to destroy your political enemies and certainly not to kill American citizens on the streets of America.
	But we are in the minority.
	Anyway, my tweet continues.
	Conservative influencer Matt Walsh sums it up.
	Quote, he got what was coming to him.
	Yeah, that's an actual quote from Matt Walsh.
	I said, that's the death squad mentality of conservative America right now.
	Basically, quote, it's good that big government killed him because he is our political enemy.
	I hope I'm not the only one who realizes we've seen this chapter before in history multiple times.
	Nazi Germany, Stalin's Soviet Union, the Khmer Rouge, et cetera.
	Governments massacred their own citizens while factions cheered it and supported it.
	The government death squads are right now killing Americans in the streets, and they are being cheered by conservatives who forfeited their principles to inflict death upon their perceived political enemies.
	And finally, my warning, history tells us this never ends well.
	This does not end well.
	Personally, I denounce any so-called conservative who is justifying these killings.
	You don't deserve the label of conservative at all, period.
	So anyway, that's my social post that no doubt is getting a lot of hate on X, which has become so low IQ, actually.
	My days on X are certainly numbered.
	I've been posting on Upscrold, and my account there, by the way, is Health Ranger.
	And I've noticed that the average IQ on Upscrolled is about twice that of the average IQ on X.
	It might be three times, actually.
	Upscrolled is an intelligent platform.
	I was following Patrick Henningsen there.
	Kim Iverson is on there, and a lot of other really great, amazing people.
	So you can follow me there, Health Ranger.
	And on X, I'm either going to leave X or I'm going to get banned, one or the other.
	They'll probably ban me again, even though my lawsuit against X is still pending in the federal courts.
	They'll probably ban me pretty soon because I'm just telling the truth, you know, telling the truth.
	That's not allowed on X.
	So here's the thing.
	Democrats are watching this and they're starting to talk about, and this is not just the DA.
	I played his video yesterday from, what was it, Philadelphia, I believe.
	I'm seeing other prominent Democrat influencers openly talking about how when they get back in power, they are going to criminally prosecute every ICE agent, but not just ICE agents.
	They're saying that they're going to prosecute conservative influencers.
	Now, I don't know.
	I mean, maybe that's just bold talk.
	I'm not sure under what legal rule or argument that could be made.
	I don't know.
	Maybe racketeering, maybe, you know, RICO Act type of laws.
	I don't know.
	Maybe they're just blowing smoke.
	But it's clear that Democrats absolutely intend to prosecute, criminally prosecute conservative influencers like Matt Walsh or Jack Pesovic or others who are advocating for the ICE killing or killings, plural, of Americans.
	And I think the Democrats are serious about that.
	There's no question that they're serious about that.
	Now, whether or not they will succeed, who knows?
	Because Walsh or Pesobic and others could argue, well, it's my First Amendment right.
	But then again, they don't believe in the First Amendment rights for Alex Predi, do they?
	So it's kind of like, oh, you're going to hide behind the First Amendment that you don't believe applies to others.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So again, you have no principles.
	That's going to be a very interesting legal argument.
	I'll leave it up to the courts and the attorneys to figure that one out.
	But I'll tell you this, on the record, I denounce ICE killing Americans.
	I denounce this violence.
	Just the fact that they're masked.
	It's wildly unconstitutional.
	They're supposed to protect the border.
	They should go to the border.
	Do the job on the border.
	Not running around the streets of America killing Americans with their masks on and getting away with it and seemingly targeting specific individuals that they want to take out.
	That is wildly unconstitutional, illegal.
	And I believe that those ICE agents who killed Alex Predi, they should be criminally prosecuted.
	They should be.
	I'm not saying all ICE agents should be prosecuted because that was just a small number involved in the killing of Predty.
	But I think Christy Noam of Homeland Security, I think she should be in handcuffs also.
	I think she should be arrested.
	Because, oh, and she's also starting to say publicly, well, I was just following orders from Stephen Miller and President Trump.
	She said that, which is very interesting because she's starting to test out her own legal defense, knowing that criminal prosecutions are coming.
	Christy Noam's probably going to be indicted.
Gop Power Flip? 00:15:32
	Not under this administration, but under the next administration.
	And it's pretty clear that Trump has made such a mess of things, he's not going to be in power much longer.
	And the GOP, for the most part, has proven that it will only turn America into a collapsed war zone and start more international wars.
	And that none of the leaders in the GOP believe in anything they claim.
	They don't believe in the Second Amendment.
	They don't believe in peace.
	They don't believe in small government.
	They don't believe in anything other than just, you know, insider trading and running their own crypto schemes and then bombing Iran and killing Americans on the streets and calling Americans terrorists after they kill them.
	That's what the GOP in power now appears to stand for.
	And that is not going to be popular.
	So we should all prepare for, number one, the GOP is going to lose the midterms badly at this, well, where we are now.
	Obviously, a lot can change between now and November.
	So that's not a prediction on my part.
	I'm just, it's a trajectory of where we are now.
	I think Trump is the most unpopular president since Richard Nixon.
	And he's only getting started.
	I mean, it's still only January, you know.
	So Trump has 11 more months to piss people off and, you know, kill more Americans in the streets and start more wars and bomb Iran and probably see some U.S. naval carriers destroyed and sank and thousands of soldiers coming home in body bags.
	All that's going to come up.
	And that's going to feed into the election in November.
	And the reason I say this is that you, listening to this, no matter where you fall politically, whether you agree or disagree with the things that I've said here today, which is fine.
	I mean, we all have our own conclusions.
	But you should be prepared and I should be prepared for Democrats to sweep back into power in the House and probably flip a few seats in the Senate.
	But the House is what really matters because that's going to put Democrats or a Democrat in the position of Speaker of the House.
	That's their plan right now.
	Get any majority by any means necessary, you know, cheating or whatever.
	Although they may not have to cheat as much given how unpopular Trump is becoming now.
	You know, if this war continues across America's streets, the Democrats probably don't even have to cheat.
	The American people will vote the GOP out of power on their own.
	But if they have to cheat, they will, obviously.
	And they're going to get the Speaker of the House position, which of course puts them a third in line.
	If something were to happen to the president and the vice president, then the Speaker would become president.
	And it's not too difficult to imagine a bunch of nefarious kind of situations.
	I mean, come on.
	The deep state already tried to assassinate Trump once, you know, before the election.
	It's not difficult to imagine nefarious actors plotting ways to get rid of positions one and two so that they can shove their speaker of the house into the position of president.
	If that happens, then this entire apparatus that Trump and the conservatives are cheering for right now, government death squads, executions on the street, you know, show me your papers, masked government agents, you know, boots on your neck, right?
	That entire apparatus is going to flip over to the Democrat side.
	And the Democrats are not going to disassemble that apparatus.
	They're going to turn it around 180 degrees and they're going to use it to attack conservatives.
	It's exactly where this is going.
	See, this is why MAGA conservatives that are supporting all this are actually retarded.
	If you cheer the construction of a big government surveillance system and a violent system, eventually that system is going to be turned against you.
	That may happen in 2027, or it could happen in January of 2029 after the next presidential election, or who knows?
	A lot of things could happen between now and then.
	But eventually that system is going to be turned against you.
	You know, I'm speaking rhetorically, the you of the MAGA conservatives that are cheering this on.
	Eventually, they're going to become the targets.
	And then those government execution squads, I can tell you exactly what's going to happen.
	I mean, this is so easy to see.
	The Democrats are going to label all conservative influencers who promoted this as terrorists or terrorist sympathizers.
	I mean, it's obvious.
	And then they're going to use the same language that the right is using right now to say, well, if you're a terrorist, we have the right to kill you.
	And the Democrats will unleash the same, it'll be the same agents.
	It'll be the same ICE guys who are just there for a paycheck.
	They don't have any morals, obviously.
	They're just there for a paycheck.
	They're going to be turned around and they're going to start hunting down and killing conservatives, shooting them with no trial, no due process, etc.
	All the things that conservatives are now cheering.
	You know, oh, he doesn't deserve a trial.
	He was violent.
	He was an instigator.
	He was an agitator.
	He deserved to be shot.
	Those are the arguments that Democrats are going to use as they unleash death squads across America.
	And then all of a sudden, the conservatives are going to be screaming, well, we have Second Amendment rights.
	Yeah, really?
	Well, you didn't believe that when Trump was president, did you?
	You didn't believe that when Alex Predi was carrying a pistol in his holster.
	You became anti-Second Amendment.
	And now, now you're going to scream Second Amendment as the Democrats have unleashed death squads to come get you and kill you, drag you out of your homes and shoot you in the back of the head on your front lawn.
	Now you're going to scream, you have rights?
	Yeah.
	Oh, good luck with that.
	You see what I mean?
	That's where this is going.
	I can't believe that MAGA conservatives are so retarded that they don't even see where this is going.
	The power is not going to stay in Trump's hands forever here, folks.
	This is why our founding fathers were wise enough to separate powers to have checks and balances on the system.
	And that's why what Trump is doing is wildly unconstitutional and it's illegal and it should not be allowed.
	And anybody cheering that on is actually cheering for their own destruction.
	And it's probably going to come to their door.
	I don't know how else to tell people.
	And the thing is, these conservatives that will be hunted down and killed by the government, they have no defense because they already said publicly that they don't believe in the rule of law.
	They believe that the government has the right to kill you if you are labeled a terrorist.
	Well, hey, labeling is easy.
	You know, Democrats can label you a terrorist.
	Democrats can label you an instigator.
	What they can do, they can come to your home, drag you out of your bed, and if you lay a hand on the federal agent during that process, then according to conservatives today, they have the right to shoot you and kill you because now you have, quote, assaulted a federal agent.
	Yeah, that's the actual argument by numerous conservative podcasters and influencers.
	They're saying if you touch a federal agent that is assaulting you, then you are guilty of assault.
	You are a terrorist, and they have every right to shoot and kill you right there on the spot.
	That is literally the argument of nearly every conservative influencer right now.
	Well, that argument will be weaponized against them.
	That's why I will have no part of this.
	That's why I'm denouncing all government violence against the people.
	I'm on the record.
	People can look at my, you know, my ex-feed or my social media feed or my articles on natural news.
	I have consistently denounced these death squads.
	I mean, just on moral grounds, not to mention the constitutionality of it and the fact that I believe in due process and I abhor the use of government to inflict violence upon your political enemies.
	We've seen bloodshed too often throughout history.
	I will not participate in that.
	And by the way, when the Democrats come back into power, again, if we still have a country left by then, who knows?
	If or when they come back into power, they're going to indict every member of the Trump family.
	I mean, they're all going to be indicted.
	And every Trump cabinet member, people like Stephen Miller, etc.
	My goodness, the criminal indictments that the Democrats are going to hand down will number in the thousands anybody associated with Trump.
	On the business side, the crypto side, you know, anybody involved in these ICE raids, anybody in the command chain or the chain of command of ICE and Border Patrol, all those people are going to be dragged out of their homes at 3 in the morning.
	It'll be on CNN like a Roger Stone raid.
	Those people are going to be prosecuted and they're going to be dragged through a North American Nuremberg trial.
	And the New York Times, the Washington Post are going to cover this with massive headlines.
	Say, you know, the crimes against humanity carried out by Trump, the shame of America for all history.
	They're going to Richard Nixon this whole thing times a thousand.
	They're going to make conservatives so unpopular that conservatives won't be electable for generations.
	And in order to do that, all they have to do is quote people like Matt Walsh or Jack Posobic or Stephen Miller or Donald Trump or Christy Noam.
	All they have to do is quote the things that those people have already tweeted.
	My God.
	We're going to have Nuremberg USA trials.
	That's coming.
	And I'm not saying, I mean, gosh, I don't want to see any of this happen.
	But I tell you what, I am not going along with this Nazi regime.
	That's for sure.
	Not going to drag me into your government death squad support base.
	Hell no.
	I mean, I'm not a fan of the Democrats, but my God, I'm absolutely not a fan of government death squads under Trump.
	And I'm not a fan of the people who are supporting it.
	And so the additional danger in all of this is that surely many conservatives realize, or maybe they're beginning to realize that what I'm saying here is true.
	See, everybody knows I'm a high IQ individual and I see very far ahead of the curve, right?
	I typically see, you know, several years ahead of what's coming.
	And although I'm not always right about the timing of everything, typically the big trends, you know, the big brushstrokes of history, I've nailed them over and over again, including, for example, gold and silver pricing.
	Those of you who bought gold and silver when I started recommending it, you're wealthy now.
	You're wealthy.
	You know, silver is $117.
	Gold's $5,500 an ounce right now, right?
	So I have a knack of seeing where things are going.
	Well, some conservatives might be starting to think about this and they might be saying, uh-oh, you know, Rutro, what have I done?
	You know, maybe at some point they come to their senses and sort of the MAGA rage starts to wear off and they start to come to the senses.
	My God, what have I been supporting?
	You know, those people have a window of opportunity right now to correct themselves and to denounce the government execution squads and to get out from underneath all of this.
	But they have to come to their senses.
	There's a lot of people who will miss that opportunity and they will be named and indicted because that's exactly where this is going.
	And we're going to end up, see, the Democrats will use this as a big attack on freedom of speech also, because they don't believe in the First Amendment either.
	They're going to use this as a justification of why we have to shut down all freedom of speech on social media.
	Because look, look at what these conservatives did.
	They supported the death squads.
	They excited things.
	They complicated things.
	They contributed.
	They were co-conspirators to the killing of Americans.
	Those are the arguments we're going to hear.
	Therefore, the Democrats will say we have to have control over speech because speech, they will say, is a dangerous weapon.
	Because they always say that.
	And that's the wrong answer, too.
	I believe in freedom of speech.
	But I also believe that we have a responsibility to speak from a place of core principles.
	You know, when we're not just joking around, posting silly memes and just, you know, just elbowing each other, which is sometimes fun.
	But when we're posting serious things, We need to be mindful of the fact that this is life and death for a lot of people out there.
	You know, we have a rogue government agency right now that literally is rolling execution squads across America, and they are killing Americans in the streets.
	I mean, that's a fact.
	Supporting that or encouraging that has very real costs to yourself, to society, to others, to the civility of our society, to the very future of this so-called constitutional republic.
	How can America survive if its people have no principles?
	Or at least the vast majority of people.
Impeding Law Enforcement: The Cost 00:14:45
	If when they get power, they simply wield government power against their enemies.
	And then the other party gets in power and they wield government like an enemy against their people, which is what the Democrats did over January 6th, by the way.
	How many J6 protesters were rounded up by the FBI?
	Like 1,500?
	Something like that?
	Yeah.
	Clearly, the Democrats weaponized government, but so has Trump.
	Trump's weaponized it in a different way.
	Trump's weaponized it to the point where they just go out and kill people.
	You know, even the Democrats didn't do that.
	You know, the FBI, under Joe Biden, went out and arrested thousands of people, but they never shot anybody in that process.
	Not that I'm aware of.
	They certainly didn't shoot somebody who was unarmed.
	That never happened under Biden.
	I mean, I'm talking about the J6 people.
	Maybe it happened with some drug deals gone bad somewhere, but I'm talking about the J6 people.
	But what's happening under Trump now is in a totally different category of government killings.
	And now, you know, more than one.
	So if there is a third government killing of an American, then you can't argue that these are one-off events.
	At that point, things will really break down.
	And I would imagine we're very close to that right now.
	I mean, we're at the breaking point of civil war right now.
	And yet, Trump is tripling down on this operation.
	He said earlier in the day that there will be no backing away from ICE operations.
	Basically, he's given ICE a green light.
	Keep doing what you're doing.
	Keep shooting Americans.
	So this is not going to end well.
	Oh, and one more thing I'm going to mention.
	I'll just put this out there.
	I've come to the defense of many, many conservatives over the years.
	I even came to the defense of Alex Jones when he was raked over the coals by the Connecticut court system.
	And did you know that Alex Jones in the civil trial, which was really backed by the CIA, did you know that he never really got a trial?
	There was no trial.
	The judge issued a default judgment.
	There was no jury trial.
	The jury was only there to decide after the judge said he's guilty.
	The jury was there to decide how much he should pay.
	And the reason it was a default judgment against Jones is because the judge just fabricated excuses and claimed that Alex's company had not provided all the documents that the judge asked for, even though many of those documents did not exist.
	The only way for Jones to comply would be to fabricate the documents, which itself would be a felony.
	So the court put Alex Jones in a catch-22 situation.
	It was like, look, if you don't provide the documents, we're going to find you guilty by default.
	If you do provide the documents, then we're going to charge you with fabricating documents.
	You see?
	Right?
	So that's kind of like the way the British king would run trials against the colonists.
	It was, you were guilty from the start.
	It was like Salem witch trials for Alex Jones.
	So I came to the defense of Alex Jones on that.
	And, you know, to this day, I still publicly explain the same thing.
	That trial was rigged.
	It was completely lawless.
	Well, you fast forward to today.
	I'll tell you this, and I'm not talking about Alex Jones.
	I'm talking about other influencers out there.
	But if there are other influencers who get indicted and arrested by Democrats in the coming years over their role in promoting ICE, I am not going to come to their defense at all because I'm done wasting my time on people who have no principles.
	I'm not going to defend fakers.
	You know, it's just, why should I?
	Why should I?
	I'm happy to defend people who have principles.
	I'm happy to defend people who have been wrongfully accused, but I'm not going to come to the defense of people who themselves say that they've abandoned the First and Second Amendment and that they advocate government shooting and killing Americans on the left.
	I will not defend that.
	So those people, they're on their own.
	Not going to get any help from me.
	I mean, if you advocate government violence against Americans, you're on your own, man.
	You're not worth saving.
	You're not really an American.
	You're not certainly not a conservative.
	Certainly not a small government person.
	You know, those people, they should be hung out to dry because they are bad people.
	They are, you know, they're the rotten apples of society.
	If you don't have principles, you know, turn off your podcast.
	Get off social media.
	If you don't have principles, stop pretending to be someone whose voice we should listen to.
	And if you can't say publicly that every American, including a Democrat, including a leftist, including a trans or a gay person, if you can't say that every person has a right to a trial, every person has the right to question their accusers, every person has a right to a legal defense, and that no government has the right to summarily execute Americans in the streets of our country.
	If you can't say those things, I will not defend you, period, because you are not worth defending.
	I will defend the right of every American to keep and bear arms.
	I will defend the right of every American to exercise their First Amendment rights.
	Freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of religious expression, freedom to gather, freedom to protest against government, to express their grievances against bad government.
	These are all specific rights in the First Amendment.
	There are, I believe, five of them that are essentially enumerated there.
	I've seen videos of ICE agents saying, even confronting people, actually, you know what?
	I may, yeah, I have this video.
	Let me show you this.
	Here's an ICE agent saying that if you follow ICE, if you just follow and observe them, then you are impeding them.
	And then they have the right to kill you.
	That's called interfering or impeding with law enforcement.
	Can you believe that?
	Let me play this video for you and show you these masked ICE goons how they really operate.
	Check this.
	Hi, how are you doing today?
	Good.
	Are you following us?
	Yeah, okay.
	So what you're doing is called impeding federal law enforcement, okay?
	It's an 18 USC charge 111.
	I see.
	First and only warning.
	Thank you.
	Continue to impede us and follow us.
	You will be arrested.
	Yeah, except I'm not impeding you.
	You just openly admitted that you were following us.
	I am following you.
	I'm not impeding you.
	I'm observing you.
	It is impeding.
	No, it's actually not.
	One warning, keep doing it.
	We'll pull you back out and arrest you.
	Yeah, okay.
	Thanks.
	So there you go.
	You can see the arrogant masked ICE telling this man who is clearly rattled.
	Can't blame him because you never know if you're going to be shot by these goons.
	He's following them.
	That's perfectly legal in America.
	You have every right to follow ICE, to follow law enforcement, to observe.
	I mean, you might be a journalist.
	You might be a concerned citizen, you know.
	But these ICE agents say that following them or observing them is impeding them.
	And that's not true at all.
	They're just playing mind games.
	Following is not impeding.
	Observing is not impeding.
	But again, this is how twisted things have become.
	And I can't tell you how many times over the years I've been around conservatives or have been covering conservatives who have been involved in filming police.
	Heck, I remember Alex Jones would go to Davos.
	What was it called back then?
	You know, the World Economic Forum type of meetings there.
	You know, he would expose the meetings.
	And it was always Alex Jones on video, you know, screaming at the police, we have every right to film you.
	We have every right to be here.
	We're on the sidewalk, you know.
	And that was true across the entire conservative movement.
	It was, we have every right to film you.
	You're, you know, you're operating as police on a public street.
	We can film you.
	This is perfectly legal.
	Now, we're told that you can't even film ICE.
	Just merely filming them makes you a terrorist.
	And according to MAGA conservatives now, that gives ICE the right to shoot you.
	So if you film them, they can murder you.
	And literally, just in case you're wondering, most MAGA Trump supporters actually believe that now.
	They do.
	So think about this.
	If ICE attacks you, you're not allowed to touch them somehow.
	I'm not sure how you're not supposed to have contact with them when they're making contact with you.
	Okay.
	So if they attack you and shove you, then you've committed a felony, according to conservative influencers.
	And then if they're doing something and you're filming them from 100 feet away, you're a terrorist.
	And they might just shoot you.
	And conservative influencers say they're fine with that.
	You have no right to film ICE.
	How dare you think you have a First Amendment right?
	Or if you're carrying a firearm in a holster, in fact, who was it?
	It was Cernovich that made this argument.
	I called him an idiot on X. There's an image of Alex Petty.
	He's carrying a firearm and the butt of his pistol slips out from underneath his shirt.
	So he's carrying a firearm concealed.
	He's leaning forward.
	The butt of the pistol slips out.
	It's just visible under his waist.
	But he's not reaching for the gun or holding the gun.
	Cernovich goes out and says he's brandishing a weapon.
	That's a crime.
	Like, brandishing.
	You know, come on.
	Clearly, you don't understand the meaning of the word brandishing.
	Brandishing means you have it in your hands and you're waving it around or you're aiming it at people in a threatening manner.
	That's brandishing.
	Every attorney knows that.
	Every judge knows that.
	Brandishing has a very specific legal meaning.
	Carrying a gun in a holster or in your belt and then having a little bit of it appear when you lean forward, that is not brandishing a weapon.
	But conservatives, MAGA conservatives, they are now saying just having a weapon means you're threatening ICE agents and they can shoot you.
	So you see the trap in all of this?
	If they touch you, you've committed a felony.
	If you're filming them, you've committed a felony or you can be shot.
	If you're carrying a weapon and it happens to be slightly visible, all of a sudden you're threatening them and they can kill you.
	I got to tell you, these are the kinds of arguments that the soldiers of King George would make to the colonists.
	These are catch-22 arguments.
	And they're designed to say that the citizen is always guilty.
	The citizen is always the terrorist, no matter what.
	And the government always has the right to murder you.
	And that's what MAGA conservatives largely now support.
	Bizarre, isn't it?
	So bottom line, folks, things are breaking down very rapidly.
	At the end of the day, I believe it's critical that we maintain our principles no matter what happens around us.
	Even though that might make us a lot less popular with the tribalists, sort of the, you know, the low IQ NPCs that are screaming from one side or the other.
	We don't want to join them.
	We want to be critical thinkers.
	We want to live in this world and one day leave this world knowing that we acted with principles, morals, values that were pro-human, that take into account the welfare and compassion for other human beings, and also uphold the rule of law.
	I mean, just to be clear, I am not in any way excusing illegal immigration into this country.
	I've said many times that illegals need to be shown the exit, you know, or taken to the exit.
	They need to be deported.
	I do believe in legal immigration, but that's a process.
	That's a legal process.
	Skipping that process does not make it okay.
	So I'm not defending illegal immigration.
	I'm defending the rights of Americans on the streets of America.
	I'm defending the rule of law.
	I'm defending the First Amendment, the Second Amendment, the principle of small government, and the principle that government should be held accountable for its actions.
	And that anytime you have a concentration of the power to kill in the hands of rogue government agencies like ICE, when they can just literally walk around and kill anyone they want for any reason with no evidence, no trial, no warrant, no court order, no judgment, nothing.
	Just shoot anybody and get away with it.
	That's unacceptable.
	And that's un-American.
	And I will always speak out against that, no matter which political party is running such an operation.
Due Process Under Attack 00:13:42
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	Hope that makes sense.
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	Pray for peace.
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	Take care.
	All right, welcome to this analysis.
	We have new footage of Alex Petty on January 13th, 11 days.
	I think 11 days before he was shot and killed by ICE.
	This is the nurse who was in an altercation with ICE agents.
	They pepper sprayed him.
	They shoved him to the ground.
	They had him on his knees.
	They pulled his gun away from him and then they shot and killed him.
	And most conservatives still support that shooting.
	Even though, of course, if it was one of their own who had been shot by the, let's say, Obama administration or the Biden administration, they would take the exact opposite side because they have no principles.
	I mean, obviously, they have no principles.
	Principles have to be universal or they aren't principles.
	So they're cheering this killing of Alex Predty.
	Well, now a new video has surfaced of 11 days earlier that appears to show Alex Predty, same face.
	It's been 97% confidence identified by the BBC as being the same guy.
	He spat on a vehicle, the closed window of a government ICE vehicle, and then he kicked out a taillight.
	And then he got into an altercation.
	They charged him at that point.
	They rushed out of the vehicle and roughed him up.
	And apparently he broke a rib in that altercation.
	I want to show you that video here and then discuss that, but check this out.
	This is a moment the news movement filmed on January 13th in Minneapolis, showing a man who appears to be Alex Predi interacting with federal immigration agents 11 days before Border Patrol shot and killed him.
	Our footage was analyzed by the BBC, whose facial recognition technology confirmed his identity to a 97% degree of accuracy.
	All right, now, it looks pretty obvious that that is the same guy, and it does look like he spat on a government vehicle.
	There is no death sentence in America for spitting on a government vehicle.
	It does seem obvious that he kicked out a taillight, so he damaged government property.
	Well, guess what?
	You can be arrested and charged with that.
	And you might, you could pay a fine.
	You might spend a few days in jail.
	Kind of depends on the local DA.
	As far as we can tell, I have looked.
	I can't find any arrest records of Alex Predty being arrested and charged with damaging government property at all.
	Which begs the question, why didn't they?
	Why didn't they charge him with damaging government property?
	Now, the upshot of this is that now, literally, at least in my feed on X, every conservative is saying, this proves that he deserved to be shot and killed.
	Without exception, every conservative that I've seen in my feed is saying that, you know, in one form or another, I'm paraphrasing it.
	They're saying, see, he was violent.
	They were right to shoot him.
	The problem is that this video was 11 days before he was shot and killed.
	And so what conservatives are actually arguing for here is that if ICE doesn't like you, If you kicked at their vehicle a couple of weeks ago, it's okay for them to hunt you down and kill you.
	That is literally the argument of conservative MAGA voices in America today.
	Because you kicked out a taillight, they have the right to shoot you and kill you.
	I mean, think about that.
	And as I posted, if you ever wondered, how did the citizens of Germany go along with the Holocaust and the killing of millions of Jews?
	At least that's what the history books tell us, whatever the number was, how did they go along with it?
	Well, now you know.
	Just look at MAGA.
	Just look at MAGA right now.
	They justify the killing of people as vengeance against American citizens because they don't like that that citizen spat on the window of a vehicle and kicked out a taillight.
	So no judge in America would issue a death sentence for kicking out a taillight.
	So if you think that someone kicking out the taillight of a vehicle deserves the death sentence, and if you believe that that death sentence can be carried out by government agents with no jury trial, no due process, no warrant, no verdict from any judge, not even any court hearing, no presentation of evidence, no right to defense, nothing.
	Just the government saw you 11 days ago kicking out a taillight and therefore they get to hunt you down and kill you.
	If you think that, if you think that, then you've abandoned the rule of law.
	But right now, and again, this is kind of a herd mentality, kind of like a mob rage thing that we're witnessing.
	99% of MAGA believes exactly that.
	Justice without a trial.
	So I put out a post, and by the way, I'm about to completely leave X because X has been overrun by Zionist thought police and idiotic MAGA tards at this point.
	You know, sorry to say that's just the reality.
	Here's what I posted.
	I said, when Alex Jones was subjected to a sham trial and a default judgment against him by a rigged court system, I stood up for Alex because I believe in due process and the rule of law.
	Alex was royally raked over the coals by a rigged court system and he never received any actual trial at all.
	Alex Predi received no trial either, yet he received a death sentence.
	No trial, no right to legal defense, no hearing, no jury, no judge, no opportunity to present evidence in his defense or to question his accusers.
	He was executed by ICE agents who clearly had a long-standing grudge against him.
	99% of conservatives on this platform are now cheering this from what I can see on this platform.
	If you are cheering this, you are insanely stupid and dangerous to civilization.
	Every citizen deserves a right to trial.
	Governments have no right to execute citizens on site, no matter how many taillights they kicked out or how many closed vehicle windows they spat on.
	And I'm, you know, look, I stand with what I just said there.
	Anybody that's saying that we can run around now and just have the federal government execute people on site because those people, you know, dented their car or, you know, kicked a taillight, that's insane.
	That's completely insane.
	But that's the point that we've reached now with the rage mob.
	And this is all by design.
	This is all by design.
	This is designed to start a civil war.
	You can see it.
	You can see the heat being turned up, and that's why I keep encouraging people to de-escalate.
	Don't go to these protests.
	Don't brandish weapons, obviously.
	Stay home.
	I mean, everybody has a right to protest.
	I'm just saying, on a practical level, don't get caught up in some mob because we now have government-run death squads that will hunt you down and kill you while the entire Trump base cheers.
	That's where we are.
	I mean, wow, think about it.
	That's where we are right now.
	There is no rule of law left in America.
	Not even the people who claim to support the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
	No rule of law.
	They're all saying it now: that, oh, he deserved to die because he kicked out a taillight.
	Like, literally, that's the argument.
	That wouldn't hold up in any court of law anywhere in the world, of course.
	But in insane America today, where you have like low IQ Magatards who can't think for themselves, that's totally fine with them.
	You know, the Tim Pools of society, Tim Toole, the fool, who said that he loves the boot licking because it's his boot that he's licking.
	It's his boot.
	He wants the boot.
	He said that on his show.
	He's being mocked for it because it's one of the dumbest things that any conservative influencer has ever said.
	And look, if I'm the last person, well, maybe it'll be myself and Rand Paul and Daniel McAdams of the Ron Paul Institute.
	At least there's three of us, well, plus the guys at the 10th Amendment Center.
	So there's four or five of us.
	If we're the last five Americans to call for due process and the rule of law, so be it.
	It'll just be us.
	It'll be the whole country saying, kill, kill, kill.
	And then five of us will be like, maybe not just kill people.
	Maybe don't run government death squads in the streets of America.
	Maybe everybody deserves the right to a jury trial.
	Maybe everybody deserves the right to a legal defense.
	Huh?
	You ever thought about that?
	If I'm one of the last five Americans to say it, I'm still going to say it because I'm a person of principle and I'm not giving that up.
	And I'm not going to rage mob my way into some emotional demand for mass vengeance and government death squads running around killing everybody who ever spat on a government vehicle.
	Was this guy, I'm sorry, Alex Pretty, was he maybe a guy that you would call a left-wing dickhead?
	Yeah, yeah, maybe.
	He looks like a rager himself in this video.
	Does that deserve the death sentence?
	No.
	See, that's the thing.
	That's the thing about due process.
	In this country, we are supposed to believe that even criminals have the right to self-defense or legal defense, is what I'm saying.
	Even dickheads have the right to a legal defense.
	Even, dare I say, you know, assholes, they have the right to a trial to present evidence.
	And anytime that I've ever said that, oh, these traitors should go to jail or they should be prosecuted or they should be arrested.
	What have I said every single time?
	I've said they always deserve a trial.
	They deserve to present evidence in their defense in a court of law.
	I've always said that.
	I've never said that anybody should just be, you know, taken out because we know they're guilty.
	I've always said consistently they should be able to present information in their defense.
	But again, apparently, virtually the entire conservative movement has completely abandoned the rule of law at this point.
	But importantly, what we are watching right now is the complete breakdown of the rule of law, which is indicative of exactly what I've been talking about, what's happening.
	Complete breakdown of the rule of law.
	And that means things are going to get even more dicey from here forward because nobody in power believes in due process at this point.
	The entire Trump administration and all the supporters of Trump, or virtually all, I would say 99% at this point, now support mass killing of leftists.
	And that's exactly the scenario I've warned about.
	So that when the mass killing actually begins under martial law and the Insurrection Act and soldiers on the streets, and they start just massacring leftists, you're going to see MAGA people cheering the blood as it runs down the streets of America.
	That's where we are.
	So try to survive this.
	Don't be out there in the streets.
	Be cautious.
	We're basically in Third Reich territory now, where the rule of law is gone.
	Government violence is endorsed by the citizens.
	That's a very dangerous place to be.
	So be incredibly cautious from this point forward and de-escalate.
	De-escalate.
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	Don't get in the face of ICE agents because they will clearly murder you and then the government will support that.
	So try not to get killed.
	All right.
	Thank you for listening.
	Our government is not meant to be a democracy despite all the efforts of the Democrats to try to brand it that way.
	We're not meant to have a democracy.
	We're meant to have kind of an oligarchy and this sort of like filtration where every single level of higher power is distilled to a different level.
	We didn't even used to be able to pick the president because he wasn't actually that important historically.
	And you weren't supposed to be able to direct elect your senators.
	I think that was one of the worst things that ever happened.
	And if you guys look at the way that the Senate has played out, the fact that we play 48 to 52 or 49 to 51 or 50-50 and a vice president splits it, that's dysfunctional.
	It's meant to have a two-thirds majority.
	Welcome to today's interview here on Brighteon.com.
	I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.
	And, you know, one of the voices that I love to listen to because he has such great reason, a lot of wisdom and experience.
	And he's never been on the show before.
	So this is a first time guest.
	I'm really honored to have him on is Kyle Serafin.
	And he's got a very popular podcast on Spotify.
	You can go to kyle serifinshow.com.
	That will forward you to his Spotify podcast.
	He does a lot of other interviews on other channels as well.
	He's joining us today to talk about what's happening in our world.
	So welcome, Kyle Seraphin.
	It's an honor to have you on, sir.
	Mike, thanks for having me on.
	I apologize in advance for my voice being a little bit beat up.
	I spent a week at a trade show doing the thing that I actually love, which is dealing with guns and gear and technology that's moving in that space.
	And I yelled my voice out because for some reason, all these events always turn on high music when you want to make business contacts with people.
	Oh, yeah.
	But wait a minute.
	Isn't it too early for SHOT SHOW?
	No, we just did it.
	SHOT SHOULD.
	Well, then I'm sorry.
	I missed it because I'm usually tuned into all the new announcements coming out of SHOT Show.
	Yeah, you'll probably start seeing people talk about some of the technology and some of the weapon systems and stuff like that and whatever sort of the upgraded kit that's coming out.
	So the videos are probably on their way, but the week was last week and I got a nice time to meet a bunch of people, but I left my voice in Las Vegas.
	That's the best thing, the best thing I could leave there.
	That always happens at SHOT Show.
	And that's even without gunfire because they don't allow that in Vegas inside the buildings, I should say, but outside it's open range on everything.
	That's right.
	So, okay.
	Then, by the way, are you, do you have a specific company that you're with that you want to mention?
	I'm with me.
	Yeah.
	So now I'm with Kyle Serafin and I'm Seraphin Media.
	I'm a one-man show and I run a media company.
	I'm kind of a reluctant podcaster.
	I didn't set out to be in the podcast space and I didn't set out for anyone to know my name.
	It's kind of an accident.
	So I guess that's part of the origin story, which I'm happy to share with you all.
	Please do.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah.
	So quick and dirty, I'm 44 years old.
	I thought I would be a quiet, nobody ever heard my name before.
	I intentionally had no social media.
	I intentionally did not set out to have anybody follow me.
	And actually, I deliberately got off Facebook after I got out of college.
	I graduated in 05, even though I probably should have been 04.
	And so I lived my life like a lot of people.
	I did a bunch of different jobs.
	I worked in restaurants.
	I worked in sales.
	And then I found myself wondering why I was here on this earth and what I was creating or what I was destroying.
	And I found the answer was neither to both those questions.
	So I enlisted in the military and I found a lot of guidance there.
	I enlisted at 27 years old, which is an old time to go into the Air Force.
	And I went in because I wanted to do something kind of special.
	So I ended up in the special operations training community.
	And my goal was to be initially a combat controller.
	And I just about died doing so.
	I was at Fort Bragg in 2000.
	I'll get the date right.
	2010.
	I had a heat stroke episode where my body temp got up over 106 and I was no longer able to continue.
	So that's kind of scary.
	I was sent back to Lachlan Air Force Base, given an opportunity to either leave, and I could have left with an admin discharge, but I thought, who wants to be the guy that's 30 years old and has served in the military for 18 months?
	So I went and took another shot at the Apple and I went to the Pararescue Indoc program and I graduated that and went through and became a paramedic and did some training in that way.
	So I ended up leaving the Air Force without a deployment and without even finishing that training as well, which was another story altogether.
	But long and short of it is I had this aspiration to serve.
	I wanted to do things that I thought were meaningful.
	And that accidentally put me into the space where I became an FBI agent, which is why people know my name.
	In between then, I worked on an ambulance and I worked in an ER and I did some medical stuff as well.
	So I ended up in the FBI in 2016, almost exactly because I was then considered a disabled vet.
	I did some injuries, obviously, from training.
	And they didn't have a whole lot of paramedics.
	When I finally got into the FBI, they found out that I was one of like 52 people who were in the special agent pool that were also previously trained as paramedics.
	So that was kind of a unique skill set or a very small skill set.
	There were less of us than there were pilots.
	And, you know, it's a pretty applicable skill for law enforcement.
	So long and short, go through the academy, got out into Washington, D.C., did some work in counterintelligence, which I think gave me kind of a taste of what the ugly side of the FBI looks like.
	And that's been really my drum that I beat for people.
	Most people don't realize the FBI considers itself an intelligence agency.
	And if you would ask people, they would say, well, it's a law enforcement agency.
	Sure.
	But that's a second.
	The first and maybe 60% of what the FBI does is intelligence.
	And I think that's unsettling for folks that know what intelligence is, know that it doesn't require criminal predicate.
	In other words, you didn't have to commit a criminal act for someone to look into you for either national security purposes on the counterintelligence or the counterterrorism side.
	And a lot of that has been what has made people who are generally speaking conservative or libertarian and historically even liberals really concerned about what the FBI does because when they're looking into you and they don't have criminal predicate, it means you didn't commit a crime and they're still investigating you to find out what you did wrong.
	That's all kind of scary.
	I did that for two years.
	I moved into a surveillance team where I was watching bad guys of various different flavors from white collar to criminal gangs, child sex traffickers, you name it.
	We looked into them, including a lot of these so-called terrorist cases.
	And that's when the bad taste in my mouth kind of began to develop.
	I was on 20 national profile counterterrorism mission sets around the country.
	We shipped around and watched these people.
	And I found out that the average white supremacist is like a 20-something-year-old kid who wears khakis and maybe some boat shoes.
	And he tweets racist things on Reddit.
	And it's not really the threat that the FBI was going out and talking about.
	And certainly not the Biden administration when they were messaging this.
	Long and short, I ended up as a whistleblower because when I tried to get out of politics and tried to get away from the politics, the five years in Washington, D.C. was more than enough for me.
	I ended up in Las Cruces, New Mexico.
	And that's when I got an email from one of my bosses sending it over that said that we were going to be investigating parents at school board meetings, which in and of itself is not an immediate concern, except that they had co-signed by the assistant director of counterterrorism, which is in the national security space.
	And we just had our attorney general say that they weren't going to do national security tools.
	They weren't going to use Patriot Act tools on parents.
	I thought he committed perjury.
	That spurred me to go to my congresswoman.
	That was right in the middle of the COVID nonsense where they were trying to enforce everybody to go do this thing that I certainly wasn't going to do.
	And so I was a COVID vaccine refuser and now this federal whistleblower causing problems on every level.
	So my time was short-lived and I left the FBI.
	Officially, I was suspended June 1st of 2022.
	I did my first podcast with Dan Bongino in September at his request.
	And my life has been kind of a, you know, kind of a carousel in a whirlwind at the same time since then.
	Yeah, wow.
	And then Bongino going to the FBI, now leaving the FBI.
	And he's about to start his podcast up again.
	That's going to be interesting.
	Yeah, I've heard you described as a whistleblower.
	And I don't blame you for anything that you did there with the FBI going after parents.
	That's clearly an overreach of power and abuse of federal power against American citizens who are merely trying to protect their children.
	I'm glad you refused the vaccine so you didn't die of clots during this time.
	You're still here.
	You get to talk to us.
	That's awesome.
	We need voices like yours, I believe.
	We've got to bring back some reason and rationality here.
	And let me just say, I think you'll agree with this and to the audience.
	I am very often critical of law enforcement right now, but I'm not anti-law enforcement.
	We need law enforcement, but we need it to have boundaries and ethics and to operate with people.
	And also, Kyle, I've done firearms and combat training for 20 plus years with so many members of law enforcement and Navy SEALs and sheriffs and deputies and cops.
	I've taught soldiers and cops of edge weapons, combat training, and how to defend themselves against edge weapons.
	So I've been around a lot of people that the kind of people that you've been around also, I know these guys.
	Mostly they're good guys.
	They want to do good, but we now seem to have an apparatus where if anything goes wrong, they blame the victim.
	Like the shooting in Minneapolis, all of a sudden after Predty was shot, then he became a terrorist.
	So what would you like to say?
	I mean, that's a hot button topic right now.
	Yeah, sure.
	So what's your take on that?
	First of all, I don't have all the facts.
	I don't think anybody else does either.
	So I look at the reasonableness standards.
	So that's how we end up evaluating this.
	And there's a couple of things that are difficult for people to understand that when you take the emotion out of it, the legality of the situation is going to be very different than what you feel like the moral answer is or even the emotional answer.
	The legality is whether a reasonable officer standing in the same position as the person who fired the shot would make that same shot with the information he had available, with the training and experience that he had.
	That's a lot of sort of legal jargon.
	It falls underneath Supreme Court law.
	There was a case called Tennessee.
	Sorry, Tennessee versus Gardner was like a fleeing vehicle.
	Generally speaking, federal use of force goes under Gramby Connor.
	And there are three things that are required.
	It has to be an imminent danger of death or serious physical injury.
	I'm not sure that that was met in this case, but I also don't know what that officer saw or thought.
	He doesn't have to be right, by the way.
	He has to be reasonable.
	So this is the litigious end of it.
	Imminent danger is the first piece of it.
	Death or serious physical injury is the second part.
	And then the third piece is to the officer or to another person.
	In the Renee Good shooting, I can see it being pretty easily justified, even though it's ugly and even though it's unfortunate that someone lost their life.
	In the pretty situation, there's a lot more questions that need to be answered for me to feel confident about making any answer whatsoever, but I could very easily see why people think it's not a good shoot.
	And it's going to come down to what that officer saw, what he heard, what he thought was going on, and then whether or not there was a negligent discharge going on in the background and whether someone else made some tactical error in removing a weapon system from this guy.
	I mean, there's a lot of questions that are not answered.
	So I'm not comfortable saying, yes, I know that it was a bad shoot or yes, it's going to be a good shoot.
	I will prepare people mentally that generally speaking, these shoots are justified.
	And they are because the federal use of force is very permissive.
	It's a long story on this stuff.
	It's very permissive in so much as they don't have to be correct.
	They have to be reasonable.
	And that's so that law enforcement officers can go home.
	But I'm with you when it comes down to asking the questions.
	And I am 100% behind accountability and making sure that people are doing the right thing.
	There are a lot of cops that we saw that are otherwise good people and they'd shake your hand.
	They'd be great to sit and have a beer with.
	They'd be fine to like hang out with or meet at church.
	And yet they made really, really bad calls when it came to COVID.
	They shut down parks.
	They gave tickets.
	They stopped people for not wearing masks.
	They got physical with people for not wearing masks and other sort of ridiculous stuff.
	So I'm firmly in this category of people.
	There's not a lot of me.
	I mean, I already knew I was going to lose my job when I did.
	I said, I'm not going to do nasal swabs every 72 hours to prove I don't have a disease that I have no symptoms of.
	And when they said, well, you have to, I said, first of all, no, I don't.
	It's a free job.
	I can leave at any time.
	You guys can fire me if you want.
	But I've been a paramedic for over a decade at that point.
	And I've done thousands of nasal swabs in the clinical environment and nobody ever prophylactically tested for a disease that they didn't show symptoms for.
	That's not a real thing in medicine.
	So I already knew where that was and a lot of people went along with it.
	So it's probably worth having people understand the concept of the golden handcuffs.
	Mike, have you heard of that before?
	Yeah.
	But I've heard of that more in dealing with executives and finance in the corporate world.
	So in the law enforcement world, it just means that you're married to your pension.
	It means that once you've gotten into that job, once you're on the back end of like the second half of your career working towards retirement, number one, what else are you going to do?
	You've already kind of, you know, sort of dedicated your life to a certain profession.
	And secondly, you've already put in a significant amount of time.
	Usually it's north of a decade.
	And so people get married to the job and they start sort of allowing things to happen that they shouldn't have.
	And that's been one of the things I've been trying to march out for folks.
	You know, you can always leave your job.
	You can always try to find another way to make a living.
	I've, strangely enough, found myself making a living doing this, you know, talking and explaining what I see in the world.
	But what you can't do is you can't buy your integrity back once you get rid of it.
	And you can't ever really step back over the red line once you've already given up freedom.
	Like you never, you never cede freedom and then claim it back again.
	That doesn't happen.
	Yeah, yeah, exactly.
	Okay.
	I've got so many questions for you.
	As a former FBI agent, you know, Kash Patel recently said in an interview, and I'm paraphrasing, he said that it's illegal to bring a firearm with two magazines into the street where there's law enforcement.
	Now, of course, you and I both know that is not factually correct, but isn't it bizarre that the director of the FBI thinks that's correct?
	So you as a former FBI agent, what do you make of this?
	Is it, I mean, I would think that your colleagues in the FBI, they know the law better than the director at this point.
	Yeah, I'm starting to wonder what sort of law school Kash Patel went to or if we were all just put on.
	Look, I wasn't originally an advocate of Kash Patels.
	Spoken to him a number of times.
	In fact, I interviewed him.
	Yes.
	I mean, I sat down at a dinner table with him at SHOT Show in 2023, and we discussed things like guns and shooting and private plane usage by the current FBI director, which was Chris Ray at the time.
	We've had a bunch of conversations.
	I helped prep him for his confirmation hearing, and he used some of the lines that I wanted him to hone in on, which is that the FBI specifically in 2020, September 3rd to September 7th, if people are keeping track on the internet archives, they changed the priorities at the FBI and they downgraded the most important one, which is rigid obedience to the Constitution of the United States of America.
	That used to be the number one core value or mission statement that the FBI tried to live out.
	And they dropped it to number seven or eight in 2020.
	And so I told Cash that and I said that would be what I would hope the focus of the FBI would be under the Trump administration, getting back to that rigid constitutionality and really knowing that the mission is you have a Bill of Rights and that is a leash on government power.
	And so getting agents to understand that their job is to act within the constitutional framework.
	But, you know, if we're being honest, your average law enforcement officer and certainly your federal agent is not dealing with things under Article 1, 2, 3, 4.
	They're not doing that.
	They're looking at the Bill of Rights and saying, is my use of executive authority permissive under the restrictions that were placed in in 1791, 1792?
	So that's what I want them to do.
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	For him to step out on there and say that you can't carry a gun in public, it's absurd.
	First of all, I've done it as an FBI agent.
	I've gone in plain clothes, dressed about like this and walked out and talked to cops while carrying a gun.
	And they had, they were one, none the wiser I was carrying.
	And two, they had no idea I was a federal agent because our badge is about this small in the FBI.
	It's like the size of a half dollar.
	The second thing is, is that I've done it as a private citizen.
	And so has millions of other Americans who carry firearms every day.
	I don't have a pistol permit of any kind.
	I live in Texas and it's not required because the Constitution is good enough.
	And I regularly interact with law enforcement and I'm armed and it's fine.
	It's not a big deal.
	And I can carry extra magazines and it doesn't mean I'm looking for bloodshed.
	It means I'm a guy that knows how to use a weapon system.
	And sometimes I think there may be more targets, if necessary, that I may need to address because I've done enough shooting to know that I don't hit every single time I pull the trigger.
	Well, and also anybody who doesn't carry a spare mag isn't serious about concealed carry, I would say, because we've all had jams, failures, double feeds, mag failures, mag dropouts.
	We've all experienced that.
	If you haven't, you haven't trained enough.
	That's right.
	I mean, yeah, look, there's instances when I think a second mag is required or a third mag is required.
	I've had some arguments being made by some of the guys that spent a lot of time downrange and certainly have the volume turned down on what kind of potential violence exists in the United States.
	And I always refer people to a guy named DJ Shipley.
	He was a SEAL Team 6 Dev Grew guy.
	And he said, if I got to carry an extra magazine, then I probably should consider carrying a plate carrier.
	If I got to carry a plate carrier, I want to have a rifle slung.
	And if I have to have a rifle slung and a plate carrier, then why the hell am I going to this place?
	I mostly agree with that on a daily basis.
	I carry a high capacity, like an extended capacity for my handgun when I'm carrying concealed.
	But that doesn't mean if I don't go to church, I'm always carrying an extra mag when I go to church.
	Not because I need to shoot more people, but because if somebody were to assault my church, the angles and the amount of time that it could take for me to make sure I can clear the building, it may actually involve a little bit more shooting than not.
	And so that's not great.
	I tend to agree with the DJ Shipley thing.
	Like, why am I going to places where I might have to get more violence?
	But on top of that, there's also, there's nothing wrong that says you can't carry a bag full of ammunition if you want to.
	This is America.
	I thought we were in America.
	Hearing Donald Trump say just a minute ago that you can't carry a gun, you can't walk around with a gun.
	This is decidedly opposite from what they were campaigning on.
	But more importantly, it is exactly the way the DOJ has done over the last few months.
	We've kind of watched them fight certain things that are mechanisms of control that the federal government really doesn't have any right to do.
	So I'm not surprised the FBI director says it.
	There's plenty of FBI agents that would love to disarm all the Americans.
	And that scares the crap out of me for whatever it's worth.
	I used to buy a gun like almost every two weeks, like almost every pay period.
	I would either buy a gun or I'd be buying more than one gun.
	And when I would go to the FFL and go pick them up, my buddies that were in the FBI's office out in Las Cruces, New Mexico go, hey, man, I think we could open up a counterterrorism case on how many guns you buy.
	And luckily, my partner was standing next to me and he's a 19th group guy.
	He's a Green Beret, Special Forces, and he's also an FBI agent.
	He goes, I'll take that case and I'll close it today.
	What the hell's wrong with you guys?
	But there is an ethos in federal law enforcement, this us versus them, where a lot of them actually don't think you should be carrying a gun.
	So he's not saying things that are foreign to the FBI.
	I think it's just foreign to regular gun-carrying and gun-owning Americans.
	I mean, you guys can see I've got one over my shoulder right now.
	There's others in this room.
	I've got a flamethrower on the floor next to me.
	So just, I believe in people being able to carry weapons.
	And I'm an absolutist.
	I was a little bit unusual in the FBI.
	I thought people who were convicted felons, once they got out, if you did your time in prison and you're safe to walk amongst us, I think you should be able to get your gun rights back.
	I don't know why we're going to call you a citizen if you can't vote and you can't carry a weapon.
	Then maybe you should still be in prison.
	If we're going to let you out, let's treat you like a real person.
	And I don't know anybody who needs a gun more than somebody who used to be in prison.
	They probably have a lot more dangerous life than you and I do.
	Yeah, Prop, you're exactly right about that.
	And thank you for articulating all of that.
	Okay.
	So my next question is about the level of training that these ICE agents are subjected to.
	Now, I've got a veteran Homeland Security guy who's one of my sources I've known for many years.
	He's telling me that the older guys who have been with DHS or CBP, like they had much more training than the new guys that are being rushed into the system right now.
	The training has been minimized, including training on the proper use of force.
	And could that be part of what's happening right now?
	It's just these guys are, you know, they're off the street.
	They're a couple of months into ICE and they don't have trigger discipline.
	Is that a possible factor?
	It's certainly a possible factor.
	I think it breaks down to three things if we're being really sober about it.
	The first part is obviously a rush training.
	Whenever you go out and give testimony as a law enforcement officer, you always cite two things, your training and your experience.
	And those are relevant.
	If you take somebody who's a former police officer and you put them through ICE and they come out on the street, then they've got a bunch of street time carrying a gun.
	So that's not a big deal.
	If you take someone who's got a lot of trigger discipline because they've been in the military and they know how to do different ROEs and you put them out on ICE and they only had 16 or whatever it is, 19 weeks of training, that's fine.
	That's not a big deal.
	It's a little bit different environment.
	So the training and the experience part of it, just because you're new to ICE doesn't mean you're new to the world, although the FBI used to treat people like that.
	You know, I was 35 when I entered the academy and it's like, they go, when you get out there, I'm like, what do you mean when I get out there?
	Like, I'm a grown man.
	Like, I'm married.
	I got things.
	I've got life experience.
	I've had teams of 50 people that answered to me.
	Like, what are we talking about here?
	So it's not just that these people don't have experience in this particular space.
	And so I don't want to just say light training equals incompetent because that's not understood.
	Right.
	Depends on what people.
	There's a couple of other things that actually play in that are very different than previously.
	Right now, they are running task force and the task force have FBI agents.
	They have Homeland Security from HSI.
	They've got people from ICE.
	They've got people from CBP.
	That's customs border protection.
	Then they've got Border Patrol, which is the green versus the blue uniforms for people keeping track at home.
	There's a lot of different federal agencies that are involved in going out and snapping up illegal aliens.
	So one of the things that's actually kind of hard to do is get your team to gel together when everybody has a slightly different tactics understanding, has a slightly different set of experience.
	And more importantly, they don't work together.
	Once they get together and they're kind of gelled, that's great.
	But if you're surging people into an area like Minneapolis or Chicago or Los Angeles before that, and you're putting people in that don't generally work together, step up, they're working on new comms, sort of new protocols.
	If you're an FBI agent, you're not used to doing fugitive hunts.
	If you're a Marshal, maybe you are.
	But if you come from something else, you're not used to necessarily working in that team environment in that way.
	And that could be a real problem.
	And then it gets me to the third thing, which I actually think is the biggest piece of the puzzle right now.
	I have never been on a federal operation and I've been on, I don't know, maybe 100, something like that.
	I've never been on a federal operation where we did not have the support for crowd control and traffic control by local PD or state officers.
	And that means being black eyed by the city of Minneapolis.
	Exactly.
	And that I think is actually the scariest and probably the most dangerous scenario right now.
	So you've got local law enforcement being pulled back.
	So these guys are having to do their own crowd control.
	And I will tell you this: 1811 is the job code that I used to do.
	It's a criminal investigator.
	So there's no such thing as like a special agent.
	Special agents are criminal investigators under the 1811 code generally.
	We don't train to do crowd control.
	We don't train to do riot stopping.
	That's just not something that's in anybody's academy.
	And there's not enough time to do that.
	There are specialized units that go do that.
	Bureau of Prisons rolled out in 2020 and had to do that outside the White House.
	And I got to work with them a little bit.
	There are certain parts of Bortak that have some experience in this, but it is not, broadly speaking, a special agent skill set to stop a riot.
	And certainly not the stuff that they're seeing out there.
	So I think the local police are doing a disservice.
	I don't blame the local cops, although they probably should be getting involved whether or not their management says so.
	They're not even protecting the public from their own worst instincts.
	And the potential of all you got to do is shut off the street.
	You don't have to agree with what the operation is.
	You don't have to co-sign on what ICE does.
	If they ask you to go there and, hey, can you shut off the street from this street to this street for the next hour and tie up a couple of squad cars and it saves somebody's life?
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	That seems like a no-brainer to me.
	And that's not happening.
	And that's very political.
	So that's kind of the contentious world we're living in.
	You bring up a really critical point there, which is that it seems like the blue cities are actively working against the Trump administration and federal agents.
	And it's, of course, it's not just Minneapolis.
	You could argue the same thing about Seattle or Portland or Los Angeles or even Houston, Texas.
	I live in Texas also.
	And let me add one more layer to that before you respond, which is that we all know that there's a massive financial fraud crime scene happening in Minneapolis.
	All these fronts that are the fake daycare centers and the fake feed the children centers and whatever else.
	But I'm here to tell you, because of my contacts and the other people I've interviewed, that thing is happening nationwide.
	It's a massive money laundering, fake front of fake nonprofits in every city in America.
	So how do we as a nation or how does Trump or the FBI, how do you actually root out this massive crime scene without things going kinetic on the streets involving Americans?
	Is that possible?
	I don't know if it's possible.
	Honestly, I kind of live in this space where we're kind of living in this veneer of a constitutional republic.
	And I just, I think we're pretending that it's still there.
	I look back and I'm kind of a student of history when it comes to politics.
	I'm not, I'm not an inherently political guy.
	I never was.
	I'm not a partisan.
	So I always tell people I'm post-partisan.
	I'm neither Republican and I'm not a Democrat.
	And I think they all kind of screw us over equally because they're all kind of defending a status quo that serves them.
	So I look back to 1913, maybe 1908, something like that.
	I watched our financial system get screwed up.
	So I can't even blame anybody that's alive today for the things that have gone on in our system.
	And I also step forward and I watch that Congress ceded their authority in 1929.
	They capped the size of Congress in 1946.
	They ceded the authority over to the executive with the Administrative Procedures Act so they didn't have to do their job, which is hard to do, I guess.
	So now they can do hearings in theater.
	There's a lot of people to blame for this stuff, but Donald Trump accidentally actually said the right answer.
	I think I don't know that we're ever going to get the fraud money back.
	Let's just be real about that.
	No, I'm not expecting that at all.
	Yeah, when the money's gone, it's gone.
	It's billions that we can account for.
	It's probably trillions over the years.
	So let me just kind of do a time capsule.
	I always look at this and I don't know why I found this fiction book to be so impactful, but there's a book that was written by a guy named Vince Flynn.
	He was a fiction writer and he wrote kind of fantastical, violent stories about reforming the government.
	And one of them was this book called Term Limits, and it was published in 1997.
	And in the book, the people in the heroes of the book, which are some, well, they're maybe like anti-heroes.
	They're these special operators.
	They're the ghost, they kill off a couple of people in politics and they basically threaten the rest of the politicians, like, give it up or we're going to kill everybody kind of thing.
	And what's wild to me, all of that stuff is fine.
	There was a political attitude for it.
	There was obviously like a common sentiment before 9-11, where we were looking at these politicians like everybody's a crook and they're all part of the problem.
	But the craziest thing for me was that the national debt was under $10 trillion at that point.
	It was like something like $7.50 or $8 trillion in 1997.
	So in my lifetime, we've more than quadrupled the national debt.
	And I think that's where, like, if you look at where this money goes, if you put money into government, it's always being spent.
	Milton Freeman said, don't ever look at what the budget looks like.
	It's always balanced, just coming out of somewhere.
	We're all paying for it, either through currency, inflation, or whatever else.
	So when you get right down to it, that money is gone and it's only gone because it was available to be taken.
	And I think that Trump actually came up with the solution.
	I don't know that tariffs are the answer, but what he said about tariffs actually rung true.
	I took it to the second order effects.
	If he says we're going to get rid of the IRS, which he did, and he said we're going to fund the entire government by tariffs because we used to, it also means that you have to roll back the size and the scope of government about 90% to the point where it's just doing the core functions of government, which by the way, I think every libertarian would lose their mind in celebration.
	And so would all real conservatives.
	They would look and go, great.
	Less government is what we wanted.
	You can only fund a tariff-based government if it's really small.
	So as the size and the scope of the government continues, and if it continues on unabated the way it is, there's no solution to this.
	You're never going to solve fraud.
	It's way too big.
	We have government agencies that have billions of dollars in budget that no one's ever heard of outside of the people that work there, including our neighbors.
	But what Trump is saying, though, he's saying that he thinks he can get rid of the federal income tax, replace it with tariffs, but he's not talking about shrinking the government 90%.
	He's talking about printing the currency to make up the difference, which, as you know, is another tax on the people.
	Yeah, no, he's going to fail at that, obviously.
	It's just the answer was there.
	Yeah.
	It was like he almost had it.
	Almost grasped what needed to be done.
	I think that the MAGA people right now, and I'll ping this against you and you see what you think.
	Sure.
	A lot of MAGA people in 2026 are very upset.
	I've never been in that camp, but a lot of my friends kind of espouse that ideology.
	So here's the question.
	Are they just now realizing that Donald Trump is not a conservative and that he's essentially like a 90s liberal?
	Because 90s liberals and me had a lot in common with a few things about abortion and maybe some other stuff that we were a little bit frustrated with each other.
	We would have had some contention about how to solve the problem.
	But I think that Trump is a 90s Democrat and they thought that we're getting like some staunch hero of the Republic and he's not.
	And so he's just acting the way that you'd expect a guy like that to, you know, it's like having Bill Clinton in.
	Yeah.
	Well, the DOJ under Trump is not defending the Second Amendment at all.
	They're going after, I think, one of the binary trigger companies, for example.
	They've not been consistent.
	Remember, Trump banned, what were they, the bump stocks in his first administration.
	But I think the Supreme Court ruled against that eventually, didn't it?
	Yeah, Cargill.
	Actually, Mike Cargill was my first concealed handgun instructor when I got out of the military.
	And Mike Cargill, who operates out of Austin, he ran that thing all the way through and he actually won that case.
	Yeah, wild.
	By the way, I tried a bump stock one time.
	I'm like, oh my God, I have no control.
	Forget it.
	I don't want to bump stock.
	It's a novelty tool.
	It's a novelty.
	Exactly.
	It represents a capability that the government shouldn't take from us.
	If you want to own a bump stop, or if you can afford to just splash ammo down randomly, like it's too expensive to run a bump stock, it's like it's like a dollar every five seconds or less, actually.
	So, um, okay, uh, but moving on to other things, I love what you've said so far.
	I love the fact that you're you're a critical thinker and you're not tied to the politics of one party or the other.
	And I'm in the same camp as well.
	A lot of times, people paint me as a conservative because I don't support the transgenderism propaganda on children, I don't support mutilating children, you know, those kinds of things.
	I also don't support tyrannical government from anybody, any party, however you want to label it, right?
	Barack Obama, uh, Joe Biden, or Donald Trump.
	You know, I believe in the actual founding vision of America, I believe in the actual Bill of Rights.
	But it seems like, and I want your reaction to this, that makes us very unpopular these days.
	Yeah, actually, JP Sears just did a whole sort of parody bit on this about how the influencers always are chasing audience.
	And people of principle just kind of keep saying the same thing, and it resonates with certain people, and it doesn't resonate with others.
	And that's fine.
	If you think, I shared this with my podcast audience the other day, I said, if you think that you're going to find somebody else in the world, one human being, to include yourself, by the way, over time, that agrees with everything you say, you're a lunatic.
	It just doesn't exist.
	You will never find another person that agrees with every single thing that you think.
	And that's okay.
	We're not meant to.
	In fact, some of my best friends and I, we agree probably 90, 93% of the time.
	When we find where that 7% margin is, it's very interesting.
	It's like, whoa, why don't we agree on this?
	What do you think that I don't?
	What do you know that I don't?
	The right answer is tell me more about what you think, not you're my enemy forever.
	Yes, you're exactly right.
	In the social media world, in the media space, if you have an opinion that is not 100% with the orthodoxy and the team that's in power, then you're some sort of demon or you're a black pillar if you listen to Dan Bongino or you're whatever they say.
	It's like, at the end of the day, I want to be a critical thinker that's not tied to any sort of team.
	I don't root for teams.
	I root for outcomes.
	And my outcomes are more about human liberty, freedom, and the best experience.
	I'll throw something else on you, which is kind of funny.
	I found that this accidental little device that I've been playing with with people, and I've shared it with some folks in real life, like people at my church, people on my street, neighbors, and stuff like that.
	I have this concept that I call bacon cheeseburger nationalism.
	And it's kind of funny because people were getting really riled up about the idea of Christian nationalism, and that's really offensive to them.
	And it's because the Christian part, it's the specific religion that they don't like because theoretically they don't, you know, they don't want that.
	And that's fine.
	But if you, generally speaking, hold the beliefs and values of the dominant culture in America, then most people are not going to be offended.
	It doesn't mean you're going to consume it, but it means you're not offended by the concept that people eat meat, eat bacon, eat cheese, and maybe eat like a decent whole wheat bun.
	And if that doesn't offend you, then you're probably in the dominant culture of what America is about, in which case we probably have some things we could find common ground on and maybe get some progress done.
	And I would actually say we should claw back some of this government.
	Instead, what you find, I think, is that people are looking for these weird little loyalty tests and whether or not you hold my little fringe or niche beliefs about something.
	And then that's a pass-fail mention, whether or not we're going to be able to have any kind of reasonable discourse.
	Our whole entire Congress is set up to actually have reasonable discourse.
	It's the way it's actually organized in the building and the floor plan.
	So it's beyond belief to me that we have this bipartisan possibility where one side versus the other side and one side's been demonized.
	It's become like a religious debate in this country about politics.
	And by the way, that was in my lifetime because when I was growing up, nobody did that.
	Nobody, not in the 80s or the 90s.
	That's true.
	And I think that you espouse the same philosophy here.
	We simply want to encourage people to think for themselves, to have an understanding of history, the understanding of the Bill of Rights, have an understanding of economics.
	That's involved in everything.
	Where does your food come from?
	What is money?
	What is not money?
	I mean, that's all.
	But in the process of doing that, I think that you will tend to attract really high caliber people to your podcast, and then you will offend sort of zombie NPCs who don't want to think for themselves.
	I had somebody in my comments earlier today, and he was like, I'm really disappointed that you had this particular belief.
	It's like, welcome to reality.
	I'm happy that you comment on it.
	Please tell me your defense against whatever your position is.
	If you want to come out there and tell me you don't like that I don't, that I don't think the way you do, you're expecting like your opinion to come out of my mouth.
	That's what you want that, then convince me, do it with an argument, start from a place of honesty and assume that I'm not coming out of there in bad faith.
	I always step back.
	Like I said, I don't blame the, you know, there's a lot of things that each generation has done badly.
	And I'm right on the cusp of being a millennial or Gen X.
	And I have more in common with Gen X probably.
	So, you know, the classic thing that you see younger people doing is say the boomers are at fault or maybe the silent generation before them.
	There's nobody alive making decisions today on this planet that made the bad decisions that we are all living through because they happened in 1908, 1913, from the idea of the Federal Reserve to the actual action of the Federal Reserve.
	That's a big chunk of it.
	And then there were two things that happened at the federal level that have really subverted the House of Cards.
	I think they have made us live in them the most shaky scaffolding.
	And one of them is the 16th Amendment and the other is the 17th Amendment.
	And the 16th centralized power and allowed the federal government to come after us.
	We talked about the income tax.
	That's where it came from, 1913.
	And the second thing they did is they broke the Senate because our government is not meant to be a democracy, despite all the efforts of the Democrats to try to brand it that way.
	We're not meant to have a democracy.
	We're meant to have kind of an oligarchy and this sort of like filtration where every single level of higher power is distilled to a different level.
	We didn't even used to be able to pick the president because he wasn't actually that important historically.
	And you weren't supposed to be able to direct elect your senators.
	I think that was one of the worst things that ever happened.
	And if you guys look at the way that the Senate has played out, the fact that we play 48 to 52 or 49 to 51 or 50-50 and a vice president splits it, that's dysfunctional.
	It's meant to have a two-thirds majority.
	So we're living in a time when the systems are broken and we're trying to cobble them together and act like we can find novel solutions.
	When the reality is, you have to roll back a lot of this, the governmental problems we have.
	And you can look, again, don't take blame for it.
	Just point out, hey, this was a bad idea.
	We tried it and it was stupid.
	It's not good to democratize a republic that's not supposed to be a democracy.
	So then what's next?
	Because this is just, I'm interjecting my opinion, but I think the system that we're in is in its last phases of functioning.
	And yet I also don't think the world's going to end.
	Everybody doesn't die.
	But clearly this system will fail.
	And then we get to build the next system somehow.
	What do you suppose that looks like?
	Or is that something you're willing to talk about, you know, projecting into the near future?
	Yeah, I get chills thinking about it.
	Actually, that was exactly the way I think.
	I don't think the system lasts forever and I don't think it lasts any much a lot longer.
	How fast it goes down is kind of dependent on whether we limp along with sort of Republicans.
	Kind of, I had somebody point out to me the other day, and I can't credit who specifically, but it's like Democrats are pushing things along and their answer to everything is government.
	So they're going in the fast lane and Republicans are just doing the wrong thing in the speed, you know, going the speed limit.
	And so both of them are continuing.
	They all see that the answer to problems either in the world in general, Democrats, or in government, specifically, Republicans, think that the answer is more government.
	And it's never more government.
	It's always less.
	I have this sort of, I have this little tagline I share with people when they join my podcast.
	And I've kind of come to this idea that government is the worst solution to every problem, including when it's the only reasonable solution to the problem.
	Like law enforcement is one of those examples and national defense.
	So we're dealing with a crappy situation.
	I don't think it lasts forever.
	And I'm kind of in the accelerationalist camp.
	I kind of want to see Eric Swalwell go do whatever California is going to do and just take it off the cliff.
	I want to see bad governors with terrible ideas just like say, we're done with the federal government.
	Let's just push it off and see what happens next.
	Not because I want to see people in chaos.
	I don't think it ends up in the zombie apocalypse.
	Or I'm watching this post-apocalyptic show right now called Fallout, which is based on a video game.
	It's totally fantastical.
	It's, you know, 70s or whatever, America, and they drop the bombs.
	And then what happens in the wasteland?
	I don't think that's where we go.
	I think people just revert to the most reasonable level of power, which, by the way, was the same one the founding fathers saw.
	The states are meant to be the most powerful government that you deal with.
	And your local government is supposed to be sort of subservient only to the state.
	The federal government's not supposed to come into play nearly as much as it has.
	And nobody would have thought of themselves that way.
	And I'll suggest this is the case.
	If anyone's ever been involved in a federal lawsuit, which I have the unfortunate experience of having the FBI director's girlfriend is suing me right now.
	And the one thing that I can't help but make out is that the beginning of it says, you know, when you're in a different district, they say that you are a citizen of your state.
	I am a citizen of Texas for the purposes of federal lawsuits because that's how people were looked at.
	And that's how we're still looked at in the federal system.
	You're still beholden to the district you actually live in that is not the federal government.
	I'm not a citizen of the United States who resides in Texas.
	I'm a citizen of Texas.
	And that's very unique in the way that the world works compared to like other, you know, other countries.
	They don't look at themselves as being citizens of their province and so on first.
	It's almost tribal.
	So I actually think we roll back to that.
	And by the way, the founders actually calculated this out.
	The Ninth and the 10th Amendment, which nobody ever thinks about or remembers, they very specifically explain that there are things that are not listed that are still the purview of the states and the people.
	And I'd like to see the states and the people kind of say, look, the Constitution doesn't give the federal government charter to do everything simply because there's an interstate commerce clause, which is how most of the government is justified.
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	Just because we sell or buy things across state lines doesn't mean it's a federal issue.
	No, they cite that in every case.
	Yeah, that's a massive overreach.
	That's where I think it goes.
	I think that goes away.
	I think we start dealing with state governments.
	And then we have 50 different laboratories for freedom, whatever that looks like.
	Some will be less free than others, obviously.
	Yeah, well, and look, I'm a big fan of the 10th Amendment Center, by the way, and have interviewed those guys over the years.
	But you and I both live in Texas.
	So we've chosen a place that actually is very self-reliant if the states begin to break away or some, and maybe that, maybe it's not even formalized, but maybe it's sort of an economic breakaway because Texas has its own gold depository.
	Texas is capable of launching its own currency backed by gold and silver and oil if it comes to that, right?
	Not every state is in that situation.
	In fact, few are.
	If it comes down to a balkanization of the United States of America, what do you suppose that would look like?
	I don't know, but I look back at like history to try to see if there's any sort of, if there's sort of any parallels or any analogs.
	And it does seem like the Articles of Confederation actually would have made sense if you started from the position of we have a ton of money and infrastructure invested.
	We already have all the roads and we have all the, you know, we have all the railroads and the crossings and the highway system.
	So that's all really good.
	What if you did a loose confederation of states that just had sort of a, you know, a mutual mutual defense clauses and had the ability to maybe negotiate ports and transport.
	I mean, that's essentially what America was originally conceived of as a very, very weak centralized government.
	The Federalists sort of won out with the Constitution as it stands, but they still had an anti-federalist bent, which is entirely the reason why we have the Bill of Rights.
	So this debate was carried on in the late 1700s.
	This is not a new idea of like, how does America exist?
	We just have a ton more infrastructure.
	We have a ton more sort of common property.
	And I don't even know that you have to break it up.
	I don't think everybody needs to fight over these things.
	I'd like to see the concept of American broadly speaking still exist.
	I think that's feasible.
	I mean, this is kind of revolutionary talk that we're having here.
	So who knows what this revolt, what ends up happening when we start talking about this and people consider it, but it doesn't have to be a hostile breakup where, you know, Texas now sets itself against California.
	I think that we all speak the same language.
	Generally speaking, we share the same culture.
	But if we have different values by state, and there are obviously that, I mean, go state to state.
	And I've lived in a number of them, then people get to pick where they want to be, what they want to be about.
	And then, you know, certain, certain things could be, you'd still have to probably have an interchange, but we have all the ability.
	We could have a million currencies in this world.
	It would be no problem, whether it be from crypto, whether it be from digital exchanges that can happen instantaneously.
	We really have the infrastructure to do exactly what the articles would have done if we didn't think we were going to get invaded and overrun.
	And that's not going to happen as it stands right now.
	That may be the right answer, honest to God.
	Well, and I think people for the last several years, they have been choosing where to live based on an understanding that the current situation is not long-term resolvable.
	But even in places like California, you know, you have two Californias, at least two, right?
	You've got northern and southern.
	You've got the West Coast versus the inland California.
	Similar thing is true with Oregon.
	Even though taxes, you know, look, let me run this by you.
	I think that it's the currency printing that allows Washington, D.C. to assert centralized control over the states in so many ways, you know, federal grants, funding of universities and highways, military bases, et cetera, Social Security and Medicare.
	When the dollar gets in even more trouble, which seems to be accelerating, if the U.S. were to suffer an event like 1991, collapse of the Soviet Union, then you would lose that centralized power.
	At that point, it seems like organically a lot of states would have to do something on their own in order to just keep local commerce running.
	Have you talked about that on your show?
	Yeah, I think, well, you know, I'm jumping on that same timeline, that 1913.
	There were two pieces of it.
	I agree with you that the printing of the currency is a big chunk of it.
	I think the other piece is that the federal government can demand taxes first.
	They get the first cut.
	They have a like, you know, prima nocta on your paycheck for most people if they have a W-2 paycheck, which is a lot of Americans.
	So the fact that the federal government considers your money theirs first is problematic.
	And then they will allow it to go back to the states after the fact.
	And they will oftentimes centralize currency in the most inefficient way possible, by the way.
	And then they will give it back through whatever departments.
	I don't want a Department of Education.
	There may be a need for a Department of Energy, but it should be a lot smaller than what it is.
	There may be a need for a Department of Transportation for some really narrow niche things, but I'm not sure it should be doing all the tens and tens of billions of dollars per state that it hands out.
	And so they get compliance based on that.
	I would rather go the other way.
	I'd rather the state tax you first.
	They decide what the rule is and whatever they want to hand over to the federal government is their kind of kick into the coffer.
	But that only happens when the state is the primary government that you deal with.
	And that was the case before 1913.
	So yeah, I do think if they fail to have the ability to tax and their dollar is no longer of any value, yeah, we do roll back into something.
	And so whether it's printed currency or whether people go to crypto or whatever it may be, the answer is that people have always found a way to do commerce, whether it's in beads or trinkets or whether it's in straight bartering for commodities and so on.
	There's a lot of ways that you can set these things up.
	It's just we've reached the end of the rope where everybody that is looking around, everybody that's paying attention, which is not everybody, but it's the people that are listening to you.
	It's the people that are listening to me.
	They go, something's not right.
	And I don't think it's sustainable.
	And the answer is always, how do we get to the next stage?
	How do we do it without destroying things around us?
	How can we do it safely?
	And how do we do it in a way that also, you know, generally speaking, keeps our quality of life?
	I would argue to you that a lot of people found out that sitting at home and doing nothing was a feasible option from 2020 on.
	And there are more people doing it than I've ever believed.
	It's crazy possible.
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	Yeah, that's crazy.
	It's like as long as the Netflix is still on, as still as you can get Amazon Prime.
	I mean, the other day, this is a great example.
	I flew to SHOT SHOW, right?
	So I go to Las Vegas and I was packing up stuff because I was going to do the podcast on the road.
	And I was like, you know what would be helpful?
	It's like a rollerbag.
	I've never been a four-wheel rollerbag, but I'd really like one.
	I ordered one at 3:15 in the afternoon and it got there before it got dark at night.
	And I didn't pay any more than $50.
	That's insane.
	So we're living in, I mean, I live near an Amazon hub, but still, like, that's crazy.
	So I was able to buy something and have it delivered to me without even leaving my door.
	As long as those things are possible and we still have a cost go down the road and you can go to Target and get a million products or a Walmart, I don't think people let everything fall.
	And there's not a lot of dominoes between, you know, the dollar collapsing, those systems not working, and then people going, okay, we got to refigure this out because this is not going to work anymore.
	Like every, all of our comfort is gone.
	You know, there's no more Uber Eats.
	So it's time to get off the couch and figure out what the revolution looks like.
	And I hope it's non-violent.
	I really do because I got little kids.
	Yeah.
	Well, exactly.
	And that's why one of the things that I teach is food, self-reliance, growing food, preserving food, and learning that skill set.
	You know, I live on a ranch and I've got goats and chickens and donkeys.
	You know, I'm taking care of animals all the time.
	And I made a decision to do that over a decade ago simply because I wanted to make sure I had the skills.
	It made you look like a genius in 2020.
	Yeah, it certainly did.
	I had unlimited eggs.
	I mean, I have so many eggs that my dogs get fresh farm eggs every day, you know?
	And so they're super healthy.
	But let me show you this chart.
	Show my screen.
	Here's silver.
	As we're recording this, it's almost $113 spot price.
	But the chart I'm showing you is actually gold.
	So this is 10 years on gold.
	Let me switch it over to silver to be consistent.
	Here's the silver chart with this parabolic spike that's happening in silver.
	Now, if we look at history, and I know you talk about this quite a bit, but if we look at history, when you see these kinds of charts with metals or let's say, you know, prices of food, this starts to resemble like Weimar, Germany, hyperinflation, currency collapse.
	Talk to us about where you think we are in history.
	Well, look, people can look at that chart.
	They could see.
	I did a little look for somebody who did some investment in silver the other day and we were having a discussion about it.
	And I said, you know, you might have gotten gouged, but you're still going to come out ahead today because the dollar is so weak compared to the material you bought.
	We're talking about like $17, $18 an ounce towards the end of 2019.
	Here we are six years later.
	What did you say was $112 an ounce or something like that?
	$113.
	Yeah.
	This is when you started seeing it.
	And this was just in my awareness as I was coming online as a young, you know, as a young teenager and watching people supposedly having like, you know, barrels of wheelbarrows full of rupees and they couldn't, they couldn't buy anything or ruples or whatever the hell they were.
	They were like paper money that they had to bundle up and it was more useful to burn it than they, because they couldn't even buy wood with it.
	It had zero value.
	And so, you know, whether we hit hyperinflation or not, I don't know that that actually happens anytime soon or whether or not something will happen that sort of tries to hedge that.
	I can't imagine that our system is not going to try to compensate.
	So I don't know how it compensates and whether it collapses faster or whether it limps along even further.
	But yeah, clearly there's a couple of things that people realize starting in 2020 as they looked around and they went, holy crap, the world shut down.
	They just told us they were going to put paws on the economy.
	How do you even do that?
	I was living outside of Washington, D.C. at the time, and I just went, this is totally unsustainable.
	I got to get out of here.
	So I went and lived on acreage in New Mexico when I was working for the FBI.
	That was my first move.
	And our next move back here was into Texas.
	So all of that looks like hard skills.
	They'll always have value.
	People who can plumb, people who can, you know, work land, people who can grow things, people who can mill their own food and things like that.
	Like that's always going to be super helpful.
	And it's going to be something that's funny because those were skills that we needed 120 years ago.
	And now we're going to need them again.
	So people are going to find that out.
	I've always told people, you know, I don't really invest in gold and silver all that much, although that's where a lot of future technologies and future weapon systems are all.
	There's certain things that better conductors are required.
	And so that's why they'll have value for different industries and so on.
	But they've always had an inherent value.
	People have always looked at things with actual scarcity and they went, oh, that's scarce.
	For me, stacking brass and lead is always a good idea.
	You can always shoot animals.
	There's tons of them out there.
	You can always keep people away with the right posture and so on.
	We talked about at the beginning, my love is firearms.
	None of my firearms are worth any less money than I paid for them because those machines, if they stop making those things, mine will, they're durable goods.
	I've got a rifle that was built in 1917.
	I got a shotgun that was built in the 1860s.
	And they still function.
	And so, you know, there's some really long-term durability and capabilities.
	But how many people are doing what my wife is doing, what you're obviously doing?
	You look at it and you go, I'm going to make sure I have some kerosene lamps because if we don't have any other options, I still like to be able to see when it's dark outside.
	I've got solar and I've got solar generators that can recharge all my flashlights and recharge all my thermal devices.
	And yeah, I also have night vision and thermal and this kind of stuff because I'm kind of a tactical nerd.
	So I want to be able to have superpowers when things look shady.
	And if there is a momentary collapse, the first thing that happens is the grids go down.
	And we're not even talking about external threats, but if we fail to maintain some of the basic standards of living, people get wild right away.
	I cannot help but remember.
	I got a father, father-in-law, who grew up in Manhattan and eventually moved to Brooklyn.
	He tells me about the garbage strike in the 1970s.
	There's been many garbage strikes.
	So this is one particular one that was poignant to him.
	Four days without trash pickup in Manhattan and people are ready to kill each other.
	Wow.
	It gets really, really wild fast when you start shutting these things down.
	In fact, the garbage, the sanitation departments get paid and they get to ask for money once they realize what their power is, which is that our entire modem system is that we generate a bunch of crap and it needs to be hauled off.
	For most people in suburbs and high-occupancy buildings, they can't function without a whole bunch of other things.
	So we're living in a really precarious sort of, it's this veil of civility, just like we're in the veil of having a constitutional republic.
	I don't like it, the idea of it ripping open, but at some point it will.
	I just don't know how fast it'll be.
	And I don't know what it'll be currency collapse or what it'll be external threat because the Chinese could collapse most of our power grid or they could shut down a lot of our water systems and some other things that we're, I mean, we're exposed at a lot of levels.
	Through cyber attacks, you mean through cyber attacks, correct?
	Yeah.
	And look, I used to do that work and without giving out anything that people don't know publicly.
	The Chinese have been scouting out for weakness in our infrastructure in every county in America.
	And they've been doing it for at least a decade, probably two.
	Yeah.
	So well, and sometimes it's not that difficult when the local water operator sets the admin password as ABC123.
	You know, that's right.
	So listen, they'll give you a tour of that thing.
	That's the crazy thing.
	This is what I learned in the Bureau that I had no idea.
	We'd have Chinese scientists that would come over from China to go look into stuff.
	Let's call Fairfax County, where I used to live, which is the seat of probably a third of the workers in the federal government live there.
	They would give Chinese scientists unfettered access to walk through our water treatment facilities, our power structure and our grids.
	And I went on these tours and I went, Do you show this to the Chinese guys?
	And they go, Yeah, I go, What do you get out of it?
	And they're like, Well, we just like to show off how great our technology is.
	Wow.
	I was like, Look, I paid taxes here.
	Can you, can you please not do that anymore?
	That's terrifying, but it's too late.
	They put our GIS, all of our geoinformatics, they're all online and they're available.
	Go check out your county, wherever you live.
	You probably can find sophisticated maps of where power lines are running, where water is running.
	So, if somebody external foe, it doesn't have to just be the Chinese, although they're the ones that are the most capable, they want to come and shut things down.
	And some of these things are, you know, they're only not accessible because they're on such old systems.
	They're running on like cobalt from the 1950s.
	So, that's kind of helpful.
	But anybody that's updated it, if they have internet connectivity, they're not hardened and they're not paying attention to that.
	And they don't realize that shutting down all these systems that kind of enable our modern life will also shut down all the analogous people that are dependent on them, which is most people.
	Unless you live on a well, solar, you know, live on a farm, if you have your own food and animals and you're 100% self-sufficient, which most people are not, then you're, we're all vulnerable at some level or another, or you know people that are.
	Worst case scenarios, you're connected to people that are.
	Okay, I've got one more question to ask you today, but I want to thank you for your time.
	And I love your analysis.
	I love how deeply you think about these issues.
	But I want to ask you about your former military experience in the context of right now, there is the manufacturing of U.S. weapon systems and fighter jets and cruise missiles depends on a lot of these so-called rare earths, you know, various minerals, terbium, dysprosium, neodymium, titanium, even, and silver, to some extent, a little bit of silver.
	It seems like some of the things that Trump is doing right now is a mad dash for control over these mining resources because China controls the vast majority of the output of the refining of these rare earths.
	And the U.S. military cannot manufacture much of anything without a steady supply of these minerals.
	Is this a topic that you have looked into?
	And what's your take on the current situation?
	I'm real cautious about jumping into things that I am not pretty steeped in.
	And this is one of those.
	Geopolitics, it's a little outside of my field insofar as I know it happens.
	I'm aware of it.
	I have friends who worked in intelligence that did the other side.
	I was more domestic.
	I do see roughly what you're saying there.
	So, you know, I consume news probably at a higher level than most and the stuff that we're doing with Greenland and what was going on in Venezuela and all those look like a grab for resources of any kind, whether it be oil or rare earth or whatever.
	And yes, a lot of our modern sort of sophisticated technologies are built on that.
	So I'm aware of it.
	What the end game is, it's hard to say for me.
	I look at it and I go, I kind of was hoping that we were going to get exactly what was promised, which was that we were going to worry about our own backyard.
	We had enough problems to clean up before worrying about, you know, fighting new wars.
	And I don't think anybody is bold enough to come into America and try to fight that war.
	But, you know, at the end, as much as I'm an isolationist, I recognize that that's probably not the best option.
	So, you know, the people that look at it that I trust think that Donald Trump is doing a relatively good job of what he can at this moment, trying to scavenge up around the globe and hold influence in this hemisphere.
	But again, I feel like my concerns with the domestic are so high that it's like, okay, fine.
	Yeah, do that.
	That's fine.
	That's a really good place for you to occupy your energy.
	It'd be really good if you could start doing some of the things like divest things back to the state.
	I thought we were going to get rid of a whole bunch of parts of government, in which case, you know, have at it.
	If you want to go out there and negotiate deals with Greenland, if you want to go out there and snatch people out of Venezuela, which I'm not super crazy about, to be fair.
	Like I think there's a constitutional issue there.
	At least there would have been.
	And so we're doing these moves.
	You have to do all the things at once, but the thing that we should be doing is not building up more of whatever the hell is going on in government.
	I'd love it to see them actually do the thing that they said they were going to do, which was make America great again.
	I took that to mean naively, maybe, Mike, but I took it to mean make America constitutional.
	And so that's kind of what I was sitting there hoping on.
	I kind of would like to see Congress vote on these things if they want to go out there and try to annex things and not just have this president operate unilaterally.
	It'd be nice if we had a representative that had a say in that sort of stuff.
	Yeah, well, I would love to see America constitutional again.
	But you're right.
	That would require cutting government by 90%, which I'm all in favor of.
	I mean, almost all of it is waste and fraud, as far as I can tell.
	Even Lee Zeldon went into the EPA and what's the first thing he did is he shut down $20 billion of fraudulent climate grants.
	That's right.
	Yeah, I mean, it's so easy.
	Listen, all people have to do is look, there's government shutdowns.
	And when they happen, does your life change?
	And the answer is no.
	So whatever's going on during that time, that's the core function of government that makes your life continue.
	The rest of it is irrelevant.
	It's statistics grabbing.
	It's a bunch of like scientific griff that could be done at the industry level.
	There's a bunch of garbage that we fund that we'd have no business funding because it's just, it exists because it has.
	And that's, that's the nature of what we call the self-licking ice cream cone in Washington, D.C. People forget that the job of government is to serve the people that it governs.
	So they think their job is to just do their job.
	That's the worst possibility, by the way.
	My job exists because I have a job and I need a job and therefore I do that job.
	And once I've done the job, that's the reason I have a job.
	It's, it's like, it's, you know, it's a reflexive answer.
	It just goes in a circle and it has zero value to the output.
	And they never once consider: is this money well spent?
	Is this how our tax dollars should come out?
	They don't worry about that kind of stuff.
	No, they don't.
	It's too big.
	USAID, right?
	That largely shut down, but it's still brought into the State Department.
	It still happens.
	Money laundering to Ukraine and then back into the pockets of senators, et cetera.
	It's a giant grift at this point.
	Really, it looks like a giant final stage pillaging and looting operation.
	That's it.
	Somebody wants to be Lord of the Ashes.
	I'm not sure why they want to be in charge of the ashes, but that's what it looks like.
	I had a standout.
	Well, I had a very long line at the TSA in Las Vegas.
	And I'm standing there with this woman.
	And I said, have you ever seen what they do with the red cells?
	And she goes, I don't even know what that is.
	I go, they come in with like a group and they try to see whether they can penetrate TSA security.
	And Mike, the worst thing is, is that it's like well over 90% when they were still publishing the statistics.
	They can get bombs and explosives and weapon parts through no problem.
	Like almost all the time.
	So they just said, well, the solution to this is not beefing up security.
	It's just not publishing these bad and ugly statistics anymore.
	So now you won't get any red cell.
	They may not even do the red cells anymore.
	But if you want to know why we do those things, why TSA even exists, look at the scanning machines and the billions and billions of dollars we dump into Leido scanners for everybody.
	If you want to know why there's a TSA, stand there in the line with your shoes off, because even though you don't have to have them on, if you have boots, you got to take them off anyway.
	You'll notice the branding on the machines.
	That's the reason they're there.
	And so all these things exist for government contracts so they can get their buddies and somebody got a kickback for picking the right machine and all that.
	And so, you know, that's what it looks like.
	It looks like who wants to be the Lord of the Ashes when this whole thing collapsed?
	We'll have the biggest chunk of the crappy pie.
	It's such a strange instinct.
	Isn't it though?
	Isn't it?
	It's really antisocial.
	Yeah.
	And people sitting there, you know, collecting payoffs in fiat currency, even as the currency is collapsing.
	That's right.
	And also, I don't know about you.
	You probably agree with me, but I don't want to live in a world where I'm the only guy that's got any money left and I'm surrounded by impoverished, starving neighbors.
	You know what I mean?
	That's a terribly desperate scenario.
	Yeah.
	I mean, and this is the funniest thing that Western values actually had everybody kind of bring up.
	That's what the 90s was all about.
	It was that capitalism supposedly won.
	That was what we were told, right?
	And even though this has been going on for 70 years at that point, but we were told that the good guys won.
	And what did it do?
	It raised everybody out of poverty and the standard of living around the world went up dramatically.
	And now it's gotten to the point where we've peaked out or we've decided that we're bored with that.
	It's really, it's really atrocious and it's, it's incredibly cynical.
	If you want to be the person who has all the things, I mean, I don't even think the feudal lords in the Middle Ages wanted to do that kind of thing because at the end of the day, the peasants eventually just come running in and they burn your house down and they kill you and your family.
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	So that's what that's what's on, you know, on the docket.
	If you drop that veil of civility, human beings are savages when you get down to it.
	And we can overcome that nature, but you got to overcome it with kind of raising everybody up around you.
	It's got to be a lot more positive.
	I want to live in a community where everybody can afford to eat.
	That's okay.
	Yeah.
	Otherwise, we're all going to eat you.
	Well, yeah, exactly.
	Cannibalism is where things sometimes go in a breakdown of society.
	But I've kept you over time and I apologize for that, but I kind of lost track of time.
	It's been a really amazing conversation.
	Is there anything you'd like to add before we wrap it up?
	No, I hope people go out there and talk to their neighbors.
	And this is actually where a lot of this starts.
	Go out there and start some common ground because if you think that everybody is your enemy that doesn't agree with you, then that's going to be the, that's going to be a thing that's insurmountable.
	So, you know, I said this before the election, there's going to be an election.
	It may or may not mean anything.
	I don't know if they fixed all the election systems and I don't have a lot of trust in that.
	I do have trust in my neighbors.
	We can find consensus on my cul-de-sac.
	We can find consensus in my neighborhood where I used to live in New Mexico.
	Like, just go talk to the people that are around you.
	The communities that communicate are the ones that will survive anything that comes that's that's bad because you'll already know what people have, what they're willing to do, how they're willing to help you out.
	You'll have, they'll see you as a human being and not some sort of like, I don't know, you know, random savage out there in the world.
	So I'm still optimistic about people.
	I just think that this country is probably screwed, but that doesn't mean that individual communities are at all.
	So go out there and fix that.
	No, I'm right there with you.
	And I love living in rural Texas because the people around me, they know how to change a tractor tire.
	They know how to raise cattle.
	They know how to fix problems.
	They know how to weld.
	They know how to do stuff.
	And that's who I want to be around.
	That's right.
	100%.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Well, thank you so much, Kyle.
	The website, folks, is kyleseraphinshow.com.
	And Seraphin is spelled S-E-R-A-P-H-I-N, Kyle SeraphinShow.com.
	You want to give out any social handles or anything else like that?
	Yeah, it's my name.
	It's at Kyle Seraphin.
	If you guys want to mix it up on X, I'll engage with anybody.
	I don't care how big your account is.
	I don't care if you're verified or not.
	You know, if you're moderately respectful or extra sarcastic, then you're my people.
	So come at me.
	Come at me there.
	All right.
	Sounds great.
	Thank you so much, Kyle.
	It's an honor to have you on the show today.
	Love to have you back again.
	Take care.
	Appreciate it.
	Yeah.
	Thanks, Mike.
	All right.
	All right.
	That was Kyle Seraphin, everybody.
	What a great patriot.
	Just another outstanding American.
	So glad to call him a fellow Texan as well.
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00:18:28 Losing Value to Stablecoins
00:31:25 Day That MAGA Died
00:35:40 A Lot More Articles Published
00:38:37 Kyle Serafin Revealed
00:40:56 U.S. Ammunition Shortage Crisis
00:56:16 China's Nuclear Threat
01:00:59 Prospective Prosecutions?
01:11:22 Gop Power Flip?
01:26:55 Impeding Law Enforcement: The Cost
01:41:41 Due Process Under Attack
01:55:23 End of the Line
02:10:49 Mag and Treat
02:18:57 Dealing With Crappy Situations
02:35:04 Mutual State Commercials
02:41:05 Something's Not Right
02:56:03 Find Consensus and Rise Together