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Dioxin Testing Challenges 00:15:29
	Okay, this is a packed show and it's going to be a bit on the long side, but there's so much in here.
	I want to give you a table of contents of what's coming up today.
	So anyway, welcome to Brighttown Broadcast News for Wednesday, January 21st, 2026.
	I'm Mike Adams.
	Thank you for joining me.
	And right off the bat, you know, a giant storm is coming, not just any storm.
	This is a huge storm that's going to hit much of the continental United States and North America.
	I've got some important information about that and some things that you can do to help yourself survive what's coming.
	I also have three major announcements to share with you today.
	Number one, I've got a big announcement about dioxin testing at the Health Ranger Food Science Lab.
	I was just there filming.
	I've got something really amazing to show you.
	Short video.
	We have nailed down dioxin testing using a gas chromatography triple quad mass spec.
	And we're going to start using dioxin testing shortly for all kinds of food samples.
	I'll talk to you about that.
	Secondly, I've got a major technology breakthrough to share with you today involving the orchestration of research and writing agents with our multi-layered AI orchestration system.
	Yeah, I'll just stand by.
	You'll hear the details about that.
	And also, as I say, how I cloned my brain into an article writing breakthrough.
	So I've actually finally been able to build a system that can write like me.
	Of course, I have to prompt it.
	I have to direct it.
	I'm still the architect of everything that it's creating.
	But this is a breakthrough that took two years for me to nail down.
	And now it's nailed.
	I'm going to share that with you today.
	And there are huge implications for this technology.
	The third thing I want to share with you, and I guess I'll just give the details right now, the number of science papers that we currently have indexed into our in-house data curation system that powers the book creation engine at Brightlearn.ai as well as powering the AI research system at Brightanswers.ai.
	That system, as I'm looking at it right now, we are ingesting another 50,000 articles I'm sorry, science papers on top of the 240,000 that we already have indexed now.
	There could be some duplicates in this.
	There might be, I don't know, 10,000 duplicates, who knows?
	But we're going to end up approaching 300,000 science papers indexed into this system.
	It's wow, it's pretty amazing actually.
	Gosh, I'm looking at some amazing articles here.
	Yeah I've, I've.
	For almost a week I've been running a special search and classification wave on all science articles about nutrition, and so this is kind of the nutrition wave that's going into this system.
	Let me see if I can.
	Just here.
	Here's one clear-up of large areas contaminated as a result of a nuclear accident.
	That's from the Journal OF Environmental Radioactivity.
	Doesn't sound like nutrition.
	Measurement of radionuclides in food and the environment, a guidebook.
	Okay, well, that doesn't sound like nutrition either.
	But anyway, oh, yeah, I forgot.
	I also did, I did a bunch of journal articles about radiation and nuclear physics and things like that.
	Here's one.
	What is this?
	Cellular automata and finite fields.
	That sounds bizarre.
	Somebody combining biology with mathematics at the cellular level.
	Okay, that's interesting.
	And one more.
	What is this?
	What is this?
	Resistance by flow of time-dependent iconal equation.
	The Journal of Computational Physics.
	Okay, well, there you go.
	Four samples out of 50,000 that are going into the system.
	So essentially, you're going to be able to query this system about anything, whether you're just using the Brightanswers.ai engine or the Brightlearn.ai book creation engine.
	And there's much more coming.
	As I said earlier, we're going to get to 1 million science articles or science papers sometime pretty soon.
	I've also got a special video for you here, kind of a fun video filmed outside of a hospital showing you how natural medicine exists literally right outside the hospital.
	And the people who work at the hospital drive right past it every single day and they don't even know it's there.
	They're driving, they're literally driving right past the cure for COVID and they are oblivious to it.
	They have no idea what's happening.
	I've also got some comments about gold, which is surging, and then a video about audiobooks.
	That's pretty interesting.
	I think you'll find it to be interesting.
	And then I've got an incredible interview today.
	It is a decentralized TV episode with Roger McPhillen, who is a man, he's a psychiatrist who understands the dangers of mass psychiatric drugging.
	That's a great episode.
	And also joined in studio by Tracy, a friend of the show who also has been an advocate for Roger Vere, helped get his freedom after he was prosecuted by the DOJ over some nonsense.
	And Tracy is a strong advocate of decentralized currency, cryptocurrency, private crypto, and other technologies that can help empower and protect humanity.
	So all of that, all that is coming up today.
	Wow.
	It's going to be a busy day.
	So let's do this.
	Let me play for you just, this is only like a two-minute video of the announcement, the dioxin announcement in my laboratory.
	This was just casually filmed earlier today.
	And I'll explain it after you see it, but check it out.
	Here we go.
	Okay, check this out.
	These are dioxin, different dioxin molecules, peaks at a concentration of the standard of 10 parts per trillion.
	And this is on the Agilent GC, which is the triple quad GC right here.
	You can see those are ICP instruments in the background.
	Those are for heavy metals.
	This is the GC.
	And I think this, I just saw this has a 60-meter column.
	So these are the peaks of dioxins at just one part per billion concentration, even though the file name isn't exactly correct.
	One part per billion, and again, this is 10 parts per trillion, so a hundred times smaller concentration over here.
	And these are the masses that are popping up right now because there's another peak coming out.
	Uh, acquisition time, this is a 25-minute run, so it's on minute 20 right now.
	And you know, there's there's some of the vacuum numbers and the collision columns, oven temperature, baking a turkey in there.
	So, wow, this is really amazing.
	But for dioxins, you have to have very low detection limits, as you know, because dioxins are biologically very active at femtograms of exposure, right?
	So, we have to get this really way down in terms of low parts per trillion.
	And then we use concentrators in the sample prep to be able to detect it, even if it exists in nature at low parts per trillion concentrations.
	We can still see it on this instrument.
	So, that's what this is all about.
	Okay, so there you go.
	Now, I'm going to film a more comprehensive tour of our new laboratory facility.
	But what you saw right there is just a little peek, little teaser of our new lab, which is awesome.
	It's really amazing.
	Love it.
	But you saw there the GC instrument, it's a triple quad gas chromatography instrument.
	And you also saw a couple of our ICPMS instruments there that do the heavy metals analysis.
	I did not show you what we're going to be using, a new setup for glyphosate testing, which involves a very interesting variation of ion chromatography.
	So, we're going to get into that some other day.
	I'll bring you a full video tour.
	But what you just saw just now is pretty amazing because we now have dioxin compounds quanting at 10 parts per trillion.
	And for those of you who are also lab science geeks, that's with an injection volume of only two microliters.
	So, it's not even a huge injection.
	And yet, we're able to get good quant data at 10 parts per trillion, which is extraordinary.
	And some of you, if you're looking at the chromatography peaks and you're saying, oh, I saw, I thought I saw a shoulder on that peak.
	It didn't look like a well-formed peak.
	Yeah, I saw it too.
	And that's because we need to replace the GC liner that's part of the equipment there, part of the transfer of the sample into the actual GC column.
	That liner has lost some of its function.
	We're going to replace that, and then those peaks will look even nicer, and the shoulder will vanish.
	So, anyway, the peaks are going to look awesome.
	This means we can now begin testing foods for dioxins.
	And I started this project years ago with the what was it, the train wreck in Palestine, was it Palestine, Ohio?
	Is that where that is?
	Remember the horrible train wreck and the giant cover-up?
	And then, what was it, Senator JD Vance at the time?
	He was walking around barefoot in the stream saying, Everything's great, there's no dioxins here.
	I'm like, Yeah, you can't see them, they're invisible, man.
	Um, and now he's vice president, and I'm still concerned about his dioxin exposure, but uh, we'll talk about that another day.
	There are some ways to detox from dioxins.
	But anyway, so dioxins got just spread all over Pennsylvania and all over parts of the Amish farms in that area, et cetera.
	It was horrible.
	And when that happened, I committed to you publicly that we're going to test for dioxins.
	And I had some experts on to talk about dioxins.
	And then we did acquire the gas chromatography instrument.
	And then we ran into a lot of trouble.
	All kinds of trouble.
	Uh, it turns out that dioxin, uh testing by itself is is very tricky, and that's why, if you hire a lab to do a dioxin test on something, you're going to pay typically a thousand dollars a sample.
	It's not inexpensive, but the far more difficult part is the sample prep, and the sample prep is very expensive.
	Just the consumables that you, you throw away on the sample prep runs about a hundred dollars per sample, not to mention all the instruments and the lab technician, time and everything else.
	So that's why it's a thousand dollars a sample at retail.
	Well, guess what?
	Uh, we're going to be going out and buying things off the shelf that are fatty foods, because that's where dioxins like to concentrate is, in animal fat tissue, you know.
	So it shows up in things like milk butter cheese, eggs.
	It could be in whey protein, it could be in cream, it could be in, you know uh, chicken meat or hamburger meat or whatever.
	And we're not we're not out to try to trash any brands, by the way, or or any stores or anything.
	We're trying to get an assessment of what's the dioxin load in the food supply.
	And remember, dioxins can cause cancer at crazy low exposures, like femtograms of exposure, like you know, a fraction of picograms, a fraction of nanograms, um femtograms it's insane.
	So a little bit of dioxin exposure can cause long-term cancer not good.
	So we need to know where it is.
	Anyway, I committed to you that we were going to do this.
	We had a lot of delays.
	We had technical issues we had, we had column problems, we had oh man, we had method validation problems.
	We had a lot of issues and then we moved our lab and so we had to shut down everything for a long time, or at least on on the dioxin side, we shut that project down while we were doing building the new lab and doing the move and everything, even though we kept all the other.
	We kept the glyphosate going, we kept the microbiology going, we kept the heavy metals going.
	Fortunately, we have two instruments that do heavy metals.
	So we moved one of them first and then we picked up heavy metals testing at the new lab and then we were able to move the second one separately.
	So that never stopped, thank goodness, because we do, you know, we test, you know.
	Honestly, I I think we do more food testing than any lab in America by far, maybe in the world.
	Actually just the pure number of samples that we test, other than maybe.
	I don't know if there's some commercial lab that does massive testing for clients maybe, but I wouldn't be surprised if, if we do more food testing than any lab on earth, just the sheer number of samples and different instruments and tests that we do so.
	Anyway, we finished the move, we set up all the new instruments in the new location i'll give you a video soon and then we were able to return to the dioxin testing project, which is incredibly difficult and Understand, there's more than one dioxin, you know, molecule.
Dioxins And Their Impact 00:10:52
	So let me describe this.
	They're known by acronyms, different dioxins.
	PCDDs are one type, one of the molecules or compounds in the dioxin class.
	Those are called polychlorinated dibenzo P dioxins.
	PCDDs.
	Okay, yeah, you don't want to have a case of the PCDDs.
	It might give you ADHD or ADD.
	Then there's, well, the most toxic dioxin, which is orders of magnitude more toxic than any other, is called TCDD, which has, it's actually called 2378 tetrachlorodibenzo p dioxin.
	The 2378 refers to the positions on the molecule that the chlorine atoms occupy.
	So it's four positions out of a total of possible eight.
	And that's why it's called tetra.
	Okay.
	Anyway, then there's a penta, penta chlorodibenzo p dioxin that has five positions chlorinated, one, two, three, seven, and eight.
	And then there's different versions of the hexachlorodibenzodioxins.
	And that's six, you know, hex is six.
	And those come in different configurations.
	And then there's a seven, which is hepta.
	Hepta means seven.
	Hepta chlorodibenzo p dioxin, which the first part of that, heptachlorodibenzo, could be an Italian restaurant.
	Who knows?
	No, I'm kidding.
	I love Italian food.
	I'm not making fun of Italian food.
	And then there's a final group, which is eight.
	All eight positions are chlorinated on the compound.
	And that's called, as you might guess, octa, like octopus, but it's octachlorodibenzo P dioxins or OCDDs.
	Not to be confused with OCD, obsessive compulsive disorder.
	Is that what that is, OCD?
	Yeah.
	This is OCDD.
	It's OCD D, which is, that's when you got the octadioxins, which, by the way, is not the most toxic.
	The most toxic is the 4, T C D D.
	Okay.
	And this was made famous in the industrial accident in Italy in 1976.
	And also, there was, was it called like the Love Canal in New York or something back in the 70s?
	There was, I think that's what it was.
	There was like a big dioxin spill there and people were exposed.
	Anyway, there's also there's PCDFs and there's PCBs biphenyls, which have dioxin-like toxicity, you could say.
	So anyway, to test all of these different chemicals or even just the dioxin group, it's difficult.
	And you're handling really toxic standards too, by the way.
	So you have to handle them very safely with fume hoods and gloves and everything else.
	So this is not a trivial thing that I'm announcing here today.
	There's no question in my mind.
	We are the only private food manufacturer in America that tests for dioxins.
	No question whatsoever.
	Most university labs don't even have this equipment and this methodology and the validation that we have.
	Remember, we are an ISO accredited laboratory.
	This is not a small thing.
	So we're about to bring to you an extra level of food testing that doesn't exist anywhere else in the world.
	So not only are we testing foods for heavy metals and glyphosate and atrazine and microbiology and in certain cases, you know, radiation and things like that and aflatoxins, but soon we'll be adding dioxide testing to any of the foods that are animal-based.
	You know, think about, I don't know, like all the animal-based peptides and things that are sold on the open market or like chicken broth powder or whatever.
	Don't you want to make sure it's ultra-ultra clean?
	Well, we do.
	And that's why we have invested literally years of effort into this process.
	And I guess an outsider looking at this might say, you're crazy.
	Why do you spend so much time and money to test for dioxins?
	And nobody else in the food industry does that.
	And I'm like, because I believe in clean food.
	Because I don't want to eat dioxins and I don't want my customers to eat dioxins.
	So that's why.
	I mean, hey, you know, this farmer's burning PVC pipes all over America.
	There's train wrecks, you know, there's home fires.
	All those California fires from a couple of years ago or less that burned up all those was like 12,000 homes.
	You know, that released mass dioxin clouds, right?
	Because anytime you burn PVC pipes, you're releasing dioxins every time.
	So like a big portion of what area was that?
	Like, I don't know, North LA or something.
	I don't know the region that well, but there's a big portion of California that is coated with dioxins.
	And I would imagine they're growing food in some of those places.
	So this is important stuff, you know.
	Anyway, we're going to find out, and I'll have more news for you on that coming up.
	Now, I've got another fun video for you here.
	This one's also short, only about two minutes.
	It's about, well, I was visiting a person in a hospital in central Texas, and I was taking my dog out for a walk, and I noticed that right in front of the hospital, there are growing a massive collection of lob lolly pine trees filled with shikimic acid that beats COVID and every plague, you know?
	So I had to film a video about that.
	Check this out.
	Hey there, Rody.
	How you doing?
	Yeah, I want to show you guys.
	I'm out here outside the Lakeside Hospital and up the road there, there's a hospital.
	But guess what's in the background here?
	Endless anti-plague medicine.
	Because those, my friends, those are lob lolly pines.
	So literally right outside the hospital is the cure for almost any plague because that has shakymic acid in it.
	All those pine needles filled with shikimic acid.
	And by the way, in front of them, that's all Yopon Holly, which is the only North American source of caffeine of any plant in North America.
	So we have powerful medicine out there.
	Shakimic acid is the same ingredient in the Chinese medicine known as Ba Jiao or what's it called?
	Star Anise or Star Anise.
	People say.
	So Believe me, nobody in the hospital will ever use this medicine, even though it's right here and it's free.
	No prescription needed, it's abundant.
	No pesticides, no herbicides, nothing.
	Instead, people will drive right past the cures to go into the hospital to get treated with vaccines and pharmaceuticals and chemotherapy in that building right there.
	And they'll skip all the medicine that's right, literally right on the way on the driveway because that's the sick care system in America today.
	They ignore the medicine that nature provides for free.
	They ignore it all.
	And they pump you full of toxic chemicals at hospitals.
	Isn't that right, Rodi?
	Hey, isn't that right?
	Did you hear what I had to say?
	You want to bark?
	Want to bark?
	Yeah, that's what I thought.
	What are you looking at?
	He wants to go get some medicine.
	What is it, Rhodi?
	What is it?
	What is it?
	Yeah.
	Are you happy about the medicine?
	Yeah, that's what I thought.
	Okay.
	Good boy.
	Good boy.
	All right.
	Thanks for watching, everyone.
	All right.
	There you go.
	Yeah, Rohy's getting all fun.
	He was having a good time there.
	You know, I also grow loblolly pine trees on my ranch.
	And you may know I also have goats.
	And these goats self-medicate.
	They love to eat the pine needles.
	So if there are any pine needle branches that are low enough for goats to reach, every time I take the goats for a walk, they will eat the pine needles because they know what's medicine.
	Whereas, you know, the doctors, the human doctors, they won't touch the pine needles.
	Oh, that's a that's wildlife.
	You know, that's that couldn't be medicine.
	The goats are smarter than the doctors.
	The goats are like, I'm going to eat some of this.
	And, you know, it's going to, sorry, you know, it's going to keep me healthy.
	It's going to prevent infections and disease and all this other stuff because it's high in shakymic acid, right?
	So another case where goats are smarter than doctors, or at least conventional doctors.
	Although the herbalists, you know, North American herbalists, or let's say, naturopaths, they know about pine needle tea.
	I would think that every informed person knows about pine needle tea.
	I would hope.
	I wrote a book about it.
	And you can download the book for free.
	Let me show it to you here.
	Hold on.
	So if you go to books.brightlearn.ai and you just search for pine needle, you can bring up my book.
	It's called Pine Needle Perfection.
	Wildcrafting Nature's Ancient Shield Against Plagues and the Hidden Wisdom of Shakimic Acid.
Regrets Buying Gold? 00:06:18
	Look, that's been downloaded almost a thousand times.
	And it's free.
	How cool is that, right?
	And it's also got a mind map.
	If you scroll down, it's got a really cool mind map about shikimic acid.
	So check that out.
	I think you'll really enjoy it.
	All right, let me shift gears here.
	I promise to talk about gold.
	So gold has skyrocketed.
	You know, we've been talking about silver for months.
	And silver is over $94.
	So those of you who, you know, if you stack silver, when I was talking about it, you maybe bought that silver at $18 or $22 or $30.
	I mean, I bought it at $30 a year ago.
	A year ago.
	And I talked about it on this podcast.
	It was like February, I think, of last year.
	Well, if you bought silver at $30, That has now tripled in terms of dollars.
	So it's over $94 now.
	Silver actually hit $95.
	So the dollar is collapsing, but silver is surging.
	And I was on the redacted show earlier, and they asked me all about silver.
	It was a great segment.
	And I said, you know, silver could easily be $120 or $150 by this summer, maybe sooner.
	Might be $100 by Friday, come to think of it, you know.
	And I think silver will be $200 sometime in 2027, unless there's some big global event that just hammers economic demand, which is possible, such as, you know, war or something like that.
	But barring that, silver is going to keep skyrocketing.
	But gold hasn't received much attention.
	And gold has been, you could say, well, really sort of lagging behind silver.
	It's not rising as dramatically.
	But today, well, that changed.
	So gold just surged.
	It went from, what, from, let's say a few days ago, it was under $4,600.
	And it's just been hovering around $4,600 for, I don't know, a week or more.
	And then today, it just blasts up to $4,875.
	It was actually even higher.
	Gold is, it's going to hit $5,000.
	Not this week, probably, but soon.
	And I don't see any evidence that either gold or silver are going to have any kind of sustained loss of value in dollars.
	And there's going to be some volatility, obviously, some ups and downs and some market manipulations and some sell-offs by the central banksters, etc.
	But gold and silver continued to work perfectly as stores of value.
	And in my opinion, I mean, the price targets for gold now are looking at things like 7,500 an ounce.
	And for silver, you know, 150 or 200 or more per ounce.
	Now, I can't see the future.
	I don't know exactly, but I do know about the industrial demand of silver.
	That alone, I think, will drive the price to 200, you know, within two years or less.
	And I can also see the monetary demand for gold because of the incredible risks of holding fiat currency, especially dollars, or U.S. Treasury debt is becoming really risky in the world with some of the things that Trump is doing with tariffs and Greenland and Venezuela and whatever else.
	Those are all risk factors for holding dollars or holding dollar debt, i.e. treasuries, right?
	So gold is everybody's doubling down on getting more gold because they know where this is going.
	This is a horrible game of musical chairs.
	And when the music stops, it's the people holding the fiat currency.
	They're going to be left with nowhere to sit.
	It's the people stacking gold and silver, though, that are going to have a great time with this because their store of wealth will double or triple or whatever else happens, depending on where you bought it.
	So again, don't take this as financial advice.
	Do your own research and figure out what you want to do.
	But I do want to plug our gold and silver sponsor, which is Battalion Metals, co-founded by Tucker Carlson, very high integrity, trustworthy journalist, an amazing person.
	And you can get there at metalswithmike.com.
	That's metalswithmike.com.
	And you can use discount code Ranger if you want to purchase any metals at really great prices, by the way.
	They show you their pricing on their website in real time.
	So you can shop and compare, make sure you're getting the best deal possible, which they will give you.
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	And I don't hear from anybody right now that they regret buying gold and silver.
	What I hear from people right now is they regret not buying more gold and silver.
	And for those who think, well, it's too high now.
	It's too high to buy.
	I understand.
	I look at it.
	Sometimes I feel the same way.
	And then every time I feel that way, the next week, it's higher.
	So I don't know.
	I don't know how high this goes, but I do believe we're nowhere near the bull run on this for both gold and silver.
	So wherever you get in, I think metals are serving their purpose of protecting your assets.
Grid Down Event 00:09:15
	All right, now, speaking of protecting assets, you know, I said we're going to talk about this big freeze.
	And indeed, it is a big freeze.
	And I've got a short video here from Matt Randolph, an energy expert, says that this is going to be not just a snowstorm, but an infrastructure event.
	He says, he says the grid's going to fail.
	Refineries are going to shut down.
	Water systems are going to shut down.
	And he says if you're in certain affected areas, you should plan to be without power for at least a week and maybe a month.
	Now, I don't know.
	That sounds pretty extreme, but let's hear him say it and then I'll have some commentary.
	Here we go.
	I've been waiting to talk about the storm that's coming this weekend because I didn't want to freak people out.
	And a lot of these forecasts never pan out, but this one is panning out, it looks like.
	Yeah, everyone's in agreement now that the crazy forecast is actually happening.
	This is going to be one of those storms you probably remember for much of your life.
	Basically, the whole more than the eastern half of the United States is going to be below freezing, most of that below zero.
	They're calling for, you know, foot, foot and a half of snow all through here, all the way to the mid-Atlantic, and three inches of ice in this pink band right here.
	Three inches of ice is unbelievably catastrophic.
	That is worse than what Texas experienced in 2021.
	There's going to be loss of life.
	Anywhere there's three inches of ice, there's no power.
	There's not going to be a power line that's not on the ground when there's three inches of ice.
	And emergency services aren't going to be able to reach you because there's three inches of ice on the road.
	That's what's going to happen if this forecast is correct.
	The grid's going to fail.
	Refineries are going to shut down.
	Water systems are going to shut down.
	Could knock out a couple of LNG terminals if it goes far enough south on the Gulf Coast.
	This is going to be a disaster if this forecast is even close to accurate.
	I mean, a major disaster.
	Huge natural disaster across pretty much all the southern states.
	I'm not saying it's going to happen, but if you live in the pink area, you should plan to be without power for at least a week, maybe a month.
	That doesn't mean it's going to happen, but you need to prepare for it because it wouldn't be the first time it happened.
	Okay.
	This is that.
	People went without power for a month in Texas in 2021.
	This is a repeat of that.
	For you folks in the upper Midwest, where it's going to be like 30 below, Take the largest electric bill you've ever had in your life and add, I don't know, 25% to that or more.
	Yeah.
	But more importantly, just be prepared.
	Thanks.
	All right.
	Well, what do you think?
	Is he exaggerating or is he legit?
	Look, of all the times I've been called a doomer, That guy, that guy went like doom squared on my interpretation of this, but he may very well be right.
	And he is coming at this from a good faith perspective.
	He's simply trying to warn people to be prepared.
	And that's good advice.
	It's very smart.
	Now, because I lived through the Texas 2021 power grid outage and near total failure of the grid, after that, I shored up my situation.
	And I actually can survive off-grid for more than a month because I have a big diesel generator.
	And I've got enough diesel fuel to power through at least a month, actually months.
	So, but that's rare, right?
	That's rare.
	Very few people can power their whole house and everything on a big diesel generator for months.
	Very few people have a 500-gallon diesel tank, right?
	So people are going to be hit hard by this.
	And so I recorded, oh, and well, yeah, I recorded a special report here, how to survive the big freeze.
	I'm going to play it here in a second.
	But what this guy says, again, his name, Matt Randolph, I don't know him, but it's Matt Randolph.
	And he doesn't sound like he's trying to be a scaremonger.
	He's actually just trying to interpret this and give people rational information is what it sounds like to me.
	He's right that if there are three inches of ice, like, oh my God, three inches of ice on the roads in those areas, which spans many states.
	I don't know, was it like eight or nine states?
	I didn't notice exactly.
	Three inches of ice on the roads is catastrophic, but three inches of ice on the trees, that's a grid down event because trees, I mean, you put one inch of ice surrounding a tree branch and that branch, you know, the mass, the weight doubles or triples and that thing breaks off and it takes the power lines down.
	You're going to have trees breaking and power lines down across huge regions.
	Again, if this forecast is correct.
	So, and that means that, yeah, emergency services won't be able to reach you at all.
	And I remember in 2021 when this, the previous big freeze hit Texas and the Texas power grid wasn't ready at all.
	It wasn't winterized.
	And ERCOT, which is the group that runs the Texas Power Grid, man, they got caught with their pants down around their ankles, like butts waving in the wind in 2021.
	But since then, they beefed up the system a lot.
	And I actually think the Texas Power Grid is going to make it through this.
	I think they actually are ready in Texas.
	But when the power lines go down in the areas, you know, it's still going to take time for all the linemen to reach you and repair that.
	And they're going to have to deal with the icy roads.
	That's going to be a nightmare scenario.
	Well, I remember in 2021, because the gas stations didn't work, so the governor of Texas at that time signed an executive order that said you can now legally drive your trucks on the highways using red-dye diesel.
	And red-dyed diesel is the diesel fuel that farmers store.
	How do I know that?
	Take a guess because that's what I buy for storage and for running the generators, right?
	But the governor of Texas said, you can use red-dyed diesel in your trucks on the roads because nobody can go buy diesel at the gas stations because the gas stations have no power to pump fuel.
	So then I was like, hooray.
	So I was filling up my truck with red-dye diesel, you know.
	That was awesome.
	I was saving a lot of money.
	Didn't have to pay the federal tax on all that diesel.
	But that only lasted a short while.
	And since then, you know, of course, I use the taxed regular road diesel, what's called clear diesel in my truck.
	But if you have diesel stored, you know, if your governor, who cares what your governor says?
	If you have diesel stored and it's red-dyed diesel and you have an emergency and you need to get out on the road with your red-dyed diesel, just freaking use it, man.
	Who cares?
	Is a cop going to pull you over with three inches of ice on the road?
	What are you doing burning red dye?
	I'm on my way to the emergency room.
	Because, you know, the neighbor, he just about chainsawed his leg half off trying to clear the trees.
	That's what happened.
	He's in the back bleeding out.
	You want to give me a ticket for the red-dyed diesel?
	Or you want to let me get to the ER?
	You know what I mean?
	So can you squeeze the tourniquet a little tighter?
	Because, you know, the dude in the back seat, he's bleeding all over my bucket seats.
	That's going to be a mess to clean up, Mr. Officer.
	So, yeah, don't worry about the red-dyed diesel issue.
	Just use what you got.
	Be safe.
	Help your neighbors.
	You know, don't get in any accidents.
	Don't go out on the roads if you don't have to.
	Stock up all your food and everything.
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	And you'll make it through.
	But it is going to be hectic.
	That's for sure.
	I'm going to be commenting on this the whole weekend, by the way, and other interesting things.
	But I'm not going anywhere.
	I am locked down.
	Seriously.
	I am locked down Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and Monday.
	I'm not leaving the ranch.
	I'll probably be fixing broken pipes and stuff, trying to keep my goat's water dish from freezing, you know, things like that.
	That'll be interesting.
	Those diesel heaters are going to be very useful.
	Anyway, here's my special report about how to survive the big freeze.
	And I just want to say be safe, get prepared, listen to this report, and share it everywhere.
	Here we go.
	All right.
	Well, the winter storm is blowing in, and much of the United States is going to be drenched in, well, freezing ice on the trees.
	And that, of course, is going to cause a lot of tree branches to break off and fall on power lines.
	And so many of you listening right now are going to lose power.
	And that's the focus here.
	I'm going to walk through a checklist for you.
	Very practical podcast about things that you can do to get ready for the coming storms, the ice, the cold, but specifically the power loss.
	So welcome.
	Now, I live in Texas and I lived through the 2021 rolling blackouts.
	And during that time, we had eight minutes of electricity every 30 minutes.
	And it was a horrible time.
	And I learned a lot of hard lessons.
	One of them was to make sure that my tractor would start before the cold comes in.
	it wouldn't start and i had a generator attached to the tractor via the pto a 50 kilowatt generator i couldn't even use it because i couldn't start the tractor so first thing is if you need anything to work when it gets cold start it now and run it for 20 minutes or so charge up the battery make sure the oil is circulating and everything you know warm up the engine before the cold hits So do that immediately,
	especially on generators.
	So whether you have a gas generator or a diesel generator, don't wait around for the moment that you need it only to find out the battery is dead or the like the engine air intake filter has gone bad or something like that.
	Run it now and test it now.
	And then also make sure you've got sufficient fuel stored for it.
	Now, I also run diesel heaters.
	These are forced air diesel heaters.
	And this is for heating open spaces, by the way, like barns and things like that.
	So these open air heaters are pretty cool, actually.
	I really like them.
	I've got several.
	And what they do is they have a blower and they burn diesel, but they also require electricity in order to function.
	So I have to have electricity to keep everything else heated with the diesel heaters, but I also have to have plenty of diesel.
	And so another important lesson is that if you're going to transfer diesel from one container to another, make sure that you have a manual diesel pump.
	And the brand that I use is called Phil Rite.
	That's F-I-L-L-R-I-T-E.
	I think that's what it is, actually.
	Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's what it is.
	It's red.
	And they make two kinds of pumps for manual transfer out of a 50-gallon drum or a tank.
	And they make a rotary pump and then they make a pump that has an arm that goes up and down.
	I don't know what they call that.
	It's like a diaphragm pump or something.
	That's the one you want.
	You don't want the rotary pump.
	The rotary pump, frankly, takes way more work for whatever reason.
	It's just the physics of it.
	So get the one that's got the up and down lever.
	You'll be way happier with that one if you can still get it.
	Also, there's some other pump brands, and I did buy one that's made out of all aluminum.
	And I regret that I don't recall the name of it, but it's great.
	And I love the fact that it's all aluminum because then it's not going to rust.
	So I've got a couple of different manual pumps.
	And that's what I use to pump diesel out of 50-gallon drums into the diesel forced air heaters.
	But obviously, these pumps also work for pumping diesel into generators and things like that.
	So make sure all that's ready.
	Make sure you start your vehicles, etc.
	Now, assume you will not have power.
	That means you may or may not have water.
	This is a big deal.
	If you have well water, you can lose power to your well.
	If you have rainwater, those use surface pumps and those pumps won't work.
	And you should also assume that your pipes might break because the cold is going to be unusually long in duration.
	A lot of pipes will break.
	As you know, I'm not a fan of PVC pipes because they shatter very easily.
	Whereas PEX pipes can handle freezing so much better because they can handle the expansion without shattering or bursting.
	So you may want to just take a look at your pipe supplies.
	Do you have repair, you know, couplers?
	Make a run to Home Depot or wherever.
	Get yourself some spare parts in advance.
	Make sure you've got the tools, make sure you've got the parts to do the repairs that you're probably going to need to do.
	It's better to do it now than after the storm when everybody's at Home Depot and all the parts are sold out, right?
	So do that now.
	Make sure if you're going to repair broken lines, you might need a crimper.
	You might need the crimps.
	You know, you might need, if you use what I use, which is a PEX expansion tool, you're going to need the expansion heads for the different size PEX lines.
	You're going to need the tool.
	You're going to need the batteries.
	You're going to need the PEX expansion fittings, the inserts that go into the PEX lines, etc.
	Make sure you've got all that stocked up.
	I already have all that stocked up because I use that stuff all the time for irrigation purposes.
	So I'm all set in that department.
	Oh, but I forgot to mention back on water.
	Make sure you store water.
	So just assume you won't have fresh water for maybe a few days.
	So have some backup water storage.
	You can put it in various containers, as you know, lots of things you can store water in.
	Or you can buy a giant plastic bag that fits in your bathtub.
	And typically that holds about 100 gallons, and you can fill up your bathtub with extra water there.
	That can be pretty useful.
	And you don't have to go out and get expensive drums or barrels.
	But even if you do that, you're going to need some kind of manual pump to pull the water out of that bathtub bag.
	So think about all this in advance.
	The other thing is make sure you've got buckets.
	What I ran into in 2021 was just this shocking realization of how much water I had to carry around.
	Because of course, all the water dishes froze for all my animals.
	You know, I've got goats and I've got chickens and I've got donkeys, etc. and dogs.
	And, you know, I got to keep fresh water for them.
	So I was running around all the time taking water out of my emergency storage and then putting it in the water containers.
	So not only should you think about water for your animals, but also warmth for your animals.
	Can you keep your animals out of the wind?
	Do they have a wind shelter?
	Is there some kind of safe heating element that you can use, like a light bulb for whatever animals you have?
	And also, can you bring your animals inside?
	If they're dogs or cats or lizards or whatever, lizards aren't going to do well in the deep freeze, that's for sure.
	So find out if you can bring them inside.
	And if you can, then definitely do so.
	Make sure you're taking care of your animals during this difficult time.
	It's going to be tough for them to make it through all this.
	Probably don't want to bring all your cattle into your living room.
	I'm not going to bring donkeys in.
	Donkeys can handle anything.
	They're like the ultimate survivors.
	They made it through five-degree temperatures a couple years ago.
	So they're fine.
	All right.
	Now, if the power grid goes down, what are you going to do for communications?
	You're going to need a backup form of communications.
	And as you know, our sponsor, the satellite phone store, they have satellite phones.
	And you can reach them right now at sat123.com.
	And if you contact them right now, they can probably get you a satellite phone with either overnight or two-day FedEx.
	And you can have that sat phone by Friday, maybe.
	I mean, probably, depending on where you are.
	They can tell you.
	But reach out to them.
	If you want a satellite phone, that's sat123.com.
	And if you already have a satellite phone, I'd like to encourage you to pick it up and use it.
	Make a call.
	Make sure you remember how to dial with it because sometimes it's different.
	You know, whether you're dialing a domestic phone line versus another person's satellite phone, etc.
	And then make sure it's fully charged.
	And if you have a battery bank, you know, like a solar generator, which has a big onboard battery, make sure those batteries are fully charged because you can use that to recharge your phone or to recharge maybe a laptop computer or your, I don't know, a tablet or whatever.
	So just make sure everything is charged up.
	You've got maximum battery power in everything before the storm hits.
	And water storage and fuel storage as well.
	All right.
	What else do you need to do?
	Well, you're going to need to figure out food without using the stove, without using a microwave, without using anything like that.
	So do you have food that you can eat or make easily without using a stove?
	Make sure you've got that ready.
	And, you know, it could be, it could be nuts, it could be sprouts, it could be, I don't know, bread or whatever.
	I mean, you can figure this out.
	Or you could make food in advance.
	And since it's cold, you can probably store it outside.
	Like outside would be like a freezer.
	So maybe you can make a bunch of a big pot of beef chili or something if you want.
	And you can, you know, store it outside, even if your electricity is down.
	And then you need a way to warm it up.
	So what are you going to do?
	You know, a camp stove, be safe with it.
	Use the camp stove outside.
	Make sure you know how to use it.
	Make sure you've got a pot for it.
	Make sure you've got fuel for it.
	Or you have a rocket stove.
	You're going to feed it pine cones and tree branches or whatever.
	Don't try to start these fires in your living room.
	You'll burn up the house.
	You know, curtains are on fire.
	That's not good.
	So use it outside and make sure you're prepared to do that.
	And then if you lose all heat, then make sure that you've got a very cold weather sleeping bag that you can put on your bed.
	And you've got, I like to use really thick wool blankets because wool is so warm.
	It's crazy, crazy warm.
	You're going to love that.
	So take advantage of that.
	Make sure you are fully prepared in every way possible to have no heat.
	And, you know, it's survivable.
	It'll be cold, but you can survive it.
	And there are some things that you can do.
	I can't really recommend it, but there are some isopropyl alcohol stoves that technically can allow people to burn isopropyl alcohol, although some of these have been recalled due to, I don't know, fires and things.
	So I'm not recommending it.
	But in an emergency, I have used them and they've been fine for me.
	But, and they burn relatively clean because it's just isopropyl alcohol.
	So there's not a bunch of smoke and soot.
	There's a little bit, but not much.
	But those are some other backup emergency items that you could consider in certain circumstances.
	But if you do, make sure you can use them safely.
	In any case, it's far more wise to only have open flames outdoors, not indoors.
	So just, you know, that's up to you.
	If you do, just another warning here, if you do decide to have any kind of an open flame indoors, including candles, please don't go to sleep with open flames burning.
	You know, put all the flames out before you lie down and go to bed.
	You don't want to end up sleeping through half your house burning up and then you have to escape the smoke because it woke you up, you know, the fire alarm, etc.
	Bad scenario.
	So don't go to sleep with open flames.
	You know, it's like your mom told you.
	Don't run with scissors.
	Don't sleep with open flames.
	Okay, what else?
	What about emergency transportation?
	Is your vehicle ready to drive on icy roads if you had to in an emergency?
	Think about that in advance.
	Do you have ice scrapers for your windows and things like that?
	Do you have a good pair of gloves?
	You have, you know, the right kind of coats and shoes and everything else.
	People slip and fall on the ice all the time.
	And then they end up having to go to the emergency room, but then the roads are icy, etc.
	So if you can avoid walking around on icy surfaces, then please avoid it.
	If you can avoid walking under icy trees that break and drop branches, then avoid it.
	Stay home if you can.
	Ride this thing out in your own house with your own food supply, your own water, your own blankets, your own sleeping bag, your own backup generator.
	You know, all these things.
	Be smart about it and avoid injury and avoid adventures.
	You don't need adventures.
	You need to just make it through this because all the hospitals are going to be overflowing with people who had accidents or car accidents or whatever.
	First responders are going to be in bad shape.
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	Oh, also, you know, the gas stations may not function because they may not have electricity.
	And so you want to top up all your fuel tanks.
	Make sure you don't need gas or diesel or anything else during this time.
	Now, this is not a time that I'm concerned about looting or even a self-defense issue.
	I don't think looters really like freezing cold weather and icy roads.
	It's not the best looting time.
	So I wouldn't be too concerned about a bunch of looters.
	Mostly, you're just going to have to deal with the cold, the power loss, loss of water, also the loss of the use of your freezer and refrigerator, your heater, and your air conditioner.
	And that's a lot to deal with, actually.
	You know, life without electricity, and it's freaking cold, especially up in the northern states, you guys are going to get hit very hard.
	And I know you're used to it.
	You're like, oh, we live up here all the time, you know?
	Okay, well, good luck.
	It's going to be like negative 30.
	Actually, I don't know if it's going to be that cold, but it's going to be freaking cold.
	For all you friends up north, eh?
	You're going to freeze your little tushes off, eh?
	Yeah, that's what's going to happen.
	So even us in Texas, we're going to freeze too.
	So everybody get ready.
	And if you want any backup supplies of food, you can order from us, although they won't arrive in time at this point, not before this weekend.
	But you can order at healthrangerstore.com for the next situation, you know?
	But if you want satellite phones, you can get those at sat123.com.
	So get everything ready.
	Thanks for listening.
	Be safe, everybody.
	We'll make it through all this.
	It's not going to end the world or anything.
	It's just going to be cold and difficult for a couple of days, and then it'll get better.
	All right.
	Thanks for listening.
	Take care.
	All right.
	So look, in the interest of time, because this is getting kind of long here.
	And plus we have a DTV episode coming up that's amazing.
	So here's what I'm going to do.
	I'm going to bump my special report about how I clone my brain to tomorrow.
	And also I have a special report about audiobooks from our book site, brightlearn.ai.
	I'm going to push all that to tomorrow so that we can get to the interview today.
	I do want to mention a couple of things before we go to the DTV episode.
	Number one, this Saturday, if you still have electricity and since you're sitting at home, you don't want to travel anywhere because there's three inches of ice on the road or whatever you're seeing.
	You can enjoy the free streaming of the Marjorie Wildcraft course called Wartime Homefront Essential Skills, which begins.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	It doesn't begin streaming this Saturday.
	It streams next Saturday, January 31st.
	Okay, pardon my correction there.
	But you can register for it now and then you can watch it starting January 31st.
	This is critical because she talks about how to secure your own food supply as supply chains are breaking down during civil unrest or riots and everything, which is happening right now.
	And hey, don't you wonder, are the rioters in Minneapolis going to still riot when it's like minus 50 degrees outside?
	That's a dedicated rioter.
	It's like, why are you wearing a mask?
	Because I don't want a frost-bit nose.
	That's why.
	Yeah, we're all masked now.
	Can you imagine rioters in this weather?
	I think the Arctic cold front will end all riots for a little while.
	Because who can stand there?
	You know, what are they going to take over downtown Minneapolis in the little fake shanty town and then just freeze their buns off?
	No, they're going to go home, man.
	They're going to go home where they have heat.
	They're going to come out and riot later.
	Sorry, the rioting has been postponed due to a weather event.
	Anyway, register to watch the Marjorie Wildcraft Wartime Homefront Essential Skills.
	That's at brightu.com.
	And that's the letter you.
	Brightu.com.
	Okay, and that starts streaming again January 31st.
	I guess it's better on the 31st because maybe you'll have electricity by then.
	You may not have electricity this weekend.
	I'm not trying to laugh about it.
	It's just, hey, you know, it's a practice run for the Mad Max scenario.
	So, you know, shore up on all your skills and everything.
	This is a good time to practice.
	Okay, I also want to mention HealthRangerStore.com because that's where you can get storable food that you need for events just like this.
	And not just storable food, but emergency medicine and personal care, home care, really meticulously formulated laboratory tested products that are just the best anywhere in the world in terms of clean products, clean ingredients, laboratory tests.
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	And again, nobody does as much lab testing as we do.
	We test our entire product line to make sure it's ultra clean and that it's going to deliver the nutrients or the botanicals that we say it contains.
	We do all that for you.
	And we do that at tremendous cost, just to be clear.
	Like the lab instrument that I showed you earlier, how much was that lab instrument?
	I don't remember exactly, but I think a GC triple quad is 250K, maybe.
	Maybe it's 300K.
	It's somewhere in that neighborhood.
	And both of those heavy metals machines, the ICPMS machine, those are 350, even 400K.
	And I'm telling you, the triple quad glyphosate system that we use right now is over 400K.
	So just right there, you know, between $1 and $2 million just in instruments, not to mention the, you know, the per sample cost and everything else that goes with it.
	But we spend a lot of money to make sure that you get ultra-clean food, nutritional supplements, and superfoods.
	Nobody else is as, I don't know, maybe obsessive about this as I am.
	Literally nobody else in the industry does this level of comprehensive testing on everything.
	So healthrancherstore.com is where you can find our products.
	And you can choose to support us if you wish.
	And we take whatever we earn from that and we use it to build free platforms for you like brightlearn.ai, brightnews.ai, or brightanswers.ai, etc.
	So you win with clean products and then you also win again when we build free platforms that help you acquire knowledge and information and avoid censorship, you know?
	So it's win-win-win all the way around.
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	So thank you for your support.
	All right.
	With that said, here's today's decentralized TV episode, which is a very, it's a really good, well, I mean, they're all awesome, I think, but this one is exceptional.
	And you'll see why shortly.
	It's really exceptional.
	So enjoy the episode and I'll be back with you tomorrow.
	Obviously, the pharmaceutical industry is going to benefit greatly by the pushing of these drugs.
	The more we expand the market to medicalizing and normalizing the range of human responses, then you can create customers for life.
	And that's exactly what these drugs do because they do create a cascade of problems.
	These drugs are very dangerous because they do disconnect you from empathy.
	Oh, yeah.
	But they disconnect you not just from your fellow humans.
	They disconnect you from the divine.
	What they determine to be effective treatment is to like feel nothing.
	They want you to feel dead inside.
	Welcome to today's episode of Decentralized TV here on the free speech video platform, Brighteon.com.
	I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.
	And of course, I'm joined by my co-host, Todd Pittner today.
	Welcome, Todd, from the great state of Florida.
	How you doing?
	Cheers.
	I'm good, Mike.
	The Mother Nature is coming to kick our butts here again.
	And I'm afraid my food force probably is going to get just burnout because it's going to touch like 28 degrees.
	Oh, it's a freeze coming.
	Yeah, yeah.
	On the heels of one two weeks ago, which half decimated everything.
	So I think this one's just, who knows?
	Who knows, Mike?
	It'll bounce back.
	It'll bounce back.
	Yeah.
	It's cold, cold out there.
	Well, for Florida, it's cold.
	But we have viewers in Canada.
	They're laughing at us both.
	I know.
	No violins.
	They aren't taking any violins out for no.
	No, they're like on a day that's like 15 degrees Fahrenheit.
	They're like, it's summer, you know, running around shirtless.
	Anyway, we have a great show today and a very important topic.
	Let me just sort of set it up.
	We've got two guests coming in studio who are going to talk about how, well, the decentralization philosophy involving psychiatric drugging in the psychiatric drug complex.
	And we actually have a doctor with a clinic joining us who's got a lot of experience in this area, plus an old friend of the show, Tracy Thurman, joining us.
	So what do you say?
	Should we just jump right to it?
	Let's do it.
	I'm looking forward to it.
	All right.
	Here we go.
	Stay tuned.
	All right.
	So, Todd, here we go.
	I've got these two incredible guests in studio.
	It's Dr. Roger McPhillin from the Radically Genuine podcast and Tracy Thurman.
	Thank you both for joining us today in studio with a very special day of decentralized TV.
	We've got Todd remotely from Florida, you in studio.
	We're going to have a blast.
	So welcome.
	Thanks for having us.
	It's a pleasure.
	Hey, it's a pleasure to have you here.
	Todd, when are you going to come?
	May!
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	Okay.
	Okay, we'll have you there.
	We'll invite our guests back.
	It would be awesome to have all four of us in the same spot.
	Hey, with me.
	But this will work too.
	So this is the first time we've spoken.
	Dr. Roger McPhillin.
	Can I just call you Roger?
	Tell me, Roger, please.
	Okay, I'll do that.
	Can you give us a little background of your work and your podcast?
	Yeah, I'm a clinical psychologist based out of Bethlehem, Pennsylvania.
	And I started a podcast back in 2021 called Radically Genuine.
	And really, it was response to a lot of what we were seeing with tyranny and the COVID pandemic.
	But I was coming from it from a different angle, which was the mental health epidemic that was occurring within our country.
	And what I was seeing and what we currently see is this mass prescribing of pharmaceutical drugs, SSRIs, amongst others, in response to people having very normal and expected reactions to life events.
	And I've seen this over the course of my career in the mental health industrial complex, where it's this labeling and drugging model, which in itself has just created mass harm, not only from just the collective consciousness and the way that we describe emotional pain, but the harm of these drugs.
	I did a deep dive on the background and the research of SSRI drugs to start and really how they fraudulently were brought to market and how they're pushed on our primary care docs and the absolute dangers that these have on multiple levels.
	So I think in my own evolution, I just started with the science, but then I've kind of moved into a direction where I really see this as very dark, a spiritual attack, a weapon of war, really, because the drugs themselves, their prime effect is to really emotionally blunt and sedate the American population, population of the Western world, and being able to look into what these drugs do as far as just mitochondrial poisons,
	where now their main effect, I think, is really creating an emotionally numb and sedated group of people, which is going to lead what can be a transformational episodic experience.
	Like life is hard.
	Life brings about challenges.
	And we've manufactured a lot of these psychiatric illnesses.
	Oh, yeah.
	And the manufacturing of these illnesses has really impacted the way that people view their own internal experience.
	It's like we've been sold a lie.
	The American public has been sold a lie that life should be without pain.
	You've hit upon like 10 big issues right there.
	But let me just say, I think Todd and I both agree with you.
	The over-medicalization of normal human experiences and the range of emotions that used to be considered normal.
	Like if your friend moved away down the street, you would be sad.
	Today, it's a disease.
	Yeah.
	But just before we go on, and I'm going to ask Todd to give you the first real question here.
	Tell our audience how they can follow your work, your podcast, your website.
	Sure.
	You can follow me on X at Dr. McPhillin.
	You can go to drmacphillin.com.
	Just see my website and the Radically Genuine podcast.
	And my Substack is what's really growing right now.
	That's RadicallyGenuine.
	Again, drmacphillin.substack.com, where I'm writing on these issues.
	And it's been a leading bestseller on health politics on Substack.
	Well, just to be clear, your Substack prefix, is it Radically Genuine?
	It's Radically Genuine with Dr. Roger McPhillin, but you can't.
	With Dr. Roger McLean.
	That's kind of a lot of words there.
	If you just type in Radically Genuine, you'll get me, but it said drmacphillin.substack.com.
	Okay.
	I might need drugs to type the whole thing.
	Yeah, no, I'm kidding.
	Sometimes people don't know, should they spell out doctor or just use DR, this or that?
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah, DR. Like you say, okay, if they just type in radically genuine.
	Yep.
	And you can get from the radically genuine website.
	You can get to my sub stack as well.
	Okay.
	And then Todd, hold on to your question.
	All right.
	I'm inviting Tracy to introduce yourself.
	Now, we've spoken before.
	You've done amazing advocacy work in many areas of liberty and freedom.
	But I understand there's some additional additional context you want to share with our audience today.
	So how would you like to introduce what you're about to cover?
	Sure.
	So yeah, I've been on this show before.
	Huge fan.
	And obviously, Mike, before, you know, we've talked about the Roger Veer case, which I worked on.
	We've talked about the Amos Miller case, which I've worked on.
	So that's what I'm more known for.
	But I decided to start becoming public about the impact of SSRI drugs and, you know, the impact it had on my own life.
	And this is something a lot of people wouldn't want to talk about.
	But I'm watching so many lives get ruined, so many young people destroyed, so many children drugged before they're old enough to think that I've decided it's time to start being public about what I went through in hopes that others don't have to.
	So you're going to share some details with us today about your experience.
	I will.
	Okay.
	And that's new information to me.
	That's not something we've ever talked about.
	No.
	All right.
	So, Todd.
	Yes, sir.
	We have a full house here.
	We really do.
	We really do.
	So where do you want to begin?
	Well, you know me, man.
	I have my new strategy.
	Roger, doctor, two-part question.
	How do you define the psychiatric industrial complex and who benefits most from it?
	And the second question is, how much of what we call mental illness today is actually a rational response to a sick system.
	Ooh, good question.
	Two great questions.
	Now, I look at the psychiatric industrial complex from multiple perspectives.
	There's the therapy industrial complex and there's psychiatry and corporate medicine.
	Obviously, the pharmaceutical industry is going to benefit greatly by the pushing of these drugs, right?
	The more we expand the market to medicalizing and normalizing the range of human responses, then you can create customers for life.
	And that's exactly what these drugs do because they do create a cascade of problems, dependency being one of them.
	So when people try to get off these drugs, they experience this withdrawal effect that gets mislabeled as like a return of your mental illness.
	So you have just millions of people who can't get off SSRIs or a range of other psychiatric drugs.
	So this corporate medicine, this medical industrial complex benefits greatly.
	The insurance companies continue to benefit.
	I think it's just a large machine and apparatus at this point.
	And I look at, you know, from any standpoint of a government that wants to have greater control over its people is you have to be able to create dependence on an authority.
	And that's exactly what you do when you create in consciousness this idea that there's something broken within you when you experience normal human emotions.
	And I think emotions are energy.
	I mean, they're what drive justifiable anger and revolution.
	I think when you're experiencing sadness, we don't even use the word sadness anymore.
	So the younger generation just labels it as depressed.
	So you can't even identify with the word being sad.
	It's not normalized in our culture anymore.
	And these are signals.
	Like these are primary signals that let us know that there's something in our life that we have to change.
	And instead, when you begin to internalize that as, oh, no, there's something wrong with me, some biological abnormality.
	Well, you just surrender yourself to the medical autonomy or to the medical authority, and you surrender your autonomy.
	And now you see your life completely differently.
	See, what's held in consciousness really matters to me?
	So obviously there's a huge industry, the therapy industry in the same respect is where you take these kind of normal and episodic conditions, you know, people are struggling in their life, and now they just focus on it.
	You know, and I think they identify with these with these labels.
	And that's of real concern with me.
	Abigail Schreier wrote a great book called Bad Therapy.
	And what it does is it takes advantage of vulnerable people where you don't necessarily see problems in your life as just something to overcome.
	You actually like deep dive and focus on every era of your life that is like causing some degree of a problem.
	And if you know anything about human flourishing, the worst thing you can do is just focus on yourself all the time.
	And the therapy industry has a way of doing it.
	So that's the complex in itself.
	And I'm sorry now when you have these two-part questions, then the second one I did for you.
	No, that's okay.
	He's using that to stuff extra questions into the timeline.
	That's a trick he came up with about two episodes.
	Todd, we're on to you.
	I know you are.
	And everybody should know who's seeing this shot right now.
	I am also known as Big Head Todd and the Monster, and you can buy my Alpa anytime.
	Okay, but picking up on what you just said, I've heard many people say something like, quote, I'm bipolar.
	I'm like, well, so is the planet.
	I mean, hey, welcome.
	That sounds earthy to me.
	But people identify as their disease.
	Right.
	I'm ADD or I'm ADHD.
	I just say, I mean, I'm creative.
	I'm curious.
	I have a lot of energy to explore the world.
	Label it however the fuck you want.
	I'm going to look at the world and have fun with it.
	I'm sorry about my profanity, but every emotion and every benefit and trait and creativity of a kid is not some disease to be drugged into oblivion.
	Yeah, I argue against the idea they're diseases at all.
	The DSN, the Diagnostic Statistical Manual, which is the psychiatric Bible, has the worst reliability and validity that you can imagine.
	It doesn't meet even like the minimum kind of standards for scientific efficacy at all.
	And so we have these descriptive labels, which are just like, which you can just continue to expand when you're talking about mood, for example, or you talk about mania or hypomania.
	You just continue to expand the definition of what that means to the point where if you live this very restrictive life where you hardly feel anything, that apparently is normal for the psychiatric industry.
	So these aren't diseases at all.
	There's no medical test.
	There's no biomedical test at all.
	Although they've argued that there's this chemical imbalance, obviously there's no scientific basis for that.
	There's no testing.
	It's just the opinion of the psychiatrist typically.
	Which is so dangerous because in my line of work, I've seen people be psychiatric, forced psychiatrically hospitalized.
	And once you get in there, you're forced drugged.
	And this can be from conditions of just like somebody was in an abusive relationship and they got out of it.
	Or now what we're seeing is this rise in what they call spiritual delusions because you can't talk about God in the psychiatric industrial complex because it's a pure materialist paradigm.
	So if you say, I found Jesus or I found God or, you know, I feel I'm praying over somebody or I feel happy, they start automatically kind of evaluating the presence of a delusion.
	There's a huge uptick in these cases as well.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	So Tracy, you want to jump in on this?
	Roger opened the book right there to a number of topics.
	And Todd, hold your question.
	Sure.
	You'll be up next.
	But Tracy, where do you want to jump in?
	This is interesting to me because I'll go into a little more of the story of how I landed up on these drugs in the first place.
	I'm in a strange situation of having not landed up on them due to actual symptoms of sadness or worry.
	But the one thing I will say, you know, on what Roger just mentioned in terms of the spiritual aspect, my experience is that SSRIs do the opposite of what psychedelics do.
	Psychedelics thin the veil for good or bad.
	They thin the veil to the experience of the other world.
	Psychiatric drugs thicken the veil or disconnect you entirely.
	And the difference could not be stronger.
	I was a person of faith at the time that I was put on these drugs.
	Very shortly thereafter, I became a full-blown materialist atheist.
	My connection to the divine was severed.
	Really?
	Yes.
	And I continued in that for years, about seven years, as a materialist atheist, you know, interacting with the American Atheist Organization, Richard Dawkins, that whole crowd, until I used psychedelics.
	And I did it to treat PTSD, like self, you know, self-treatment, and ended up accidentally curing my atheism instead.
	And then that thinned the veil with the divine.
	Yes, it did.
	And I learned from personal experience what many other people have come to see as well, which is that these drugs are very dangerous because they do disconnect you from empathy.
	Oh, yeah.
	But they disconnect you not just from your fellow humans, they disconnect you from the divine.
	Well, that's why they're also associated with demonic mass shootings and school shootings.
	Exactly.
	Because the person, as I understand it, maybe Roger, you could explain more, but the young, usually the young male kid who's been bullied in school, he gets put on SSRIs and then he feels like he's no longer connected at all.
	And he's not even a real person in a real world.
	It's a simulation.
	And then the shooting has no moral or spiritual consequences.
	Is that a fair?
	Or how would you describe it?
	I just published an article on this titled They Want You to Feel Dead Inside.
	And I think that's the best description of a victim of the psychiatric industry is what they determine to be effective treatment is to like feel nothing.
	And, you know, one of the things that's so important for a culture is this interconnectedness between us and all of nature.
	And when you are disconnected, and Tracy mentioned there's good scientific data regarding decreasing empathy.
	We see this in changing marriages where a spouse started on an antidepressant and then kind of rewrote their own history with their spouse and has left that marriage.
	It's broken up families.
	There's a large Facebook group around this.
	So I think I see this as an attack on life.
	I see it as a spiritual weapon of war just because of the consequences of taking these drugs.
	Once you get in the way of somebody kind of facing their darkness and understanding their life as a soul's journey, and you talk about yourself as kind of like a machine, machine-like, as if we're just in a meat suit here where you can intervene on a certain neurochemical in the brain and then improve the human experience, it's a very dangerous road because those consequences have been significant in our culture.
	And there's without a doubt an increase in violence against self and others for people who take just one SSRI.
	You know, that's scientifically validated.
	Now, what happens then when you combine those with other mind and mood altering drugs?
	Well, they've never been evaluated, but you can only imagine when you begin to interfere with nature in that way is that people feel like they are completely detached and disconnected.
	And I believe vulnerable to messages, whether those are dark demonic messages, or if there's an intelligence agency or someone else who wants to institute a degree of control over the person, it's easy to plant things into a person's subconscious, which I think is part of it.
	The MK Ultra healthcare system.
	Hey, Todd, Trump says he's going to revolutionize healthcare and make all these drugs less costly.
Psychosomatic Pills and Placebos 00:15:17
	Yeah.
	So what do you think about that?
	Oh.
	Yeah, he's on it, man.
	I mean, why I voted for him?
	Not discount SSRIs.
	You're right.
	Buy them by the dozen.
	Make SSRIs great again, Mike.
	That's too many letters for the hat.
	Yeah, it's way too many letters.
	Tracy, first of all, thank you for sharing and lifting the veil to your medical history.
	And it tees up a question that I wrote that I'd like to ask you, Roger.
	How often is mental illness actually a crisis of meaning or spiritual disconnection?
	And if it is, and suffering is rooted in lost meaning, can medication ever, ever be the answer?
	No, never.
	It's actually an impediment.
	And so what's interesting is we have this umbrella term called mental illness.
	And so then people think about that.
	They associate it with maybe someone who's homeless on the street and has schizophrenia.
	And that's actually a quite rare condition, which we treat very poorly here in the United States with antipsychotic drugs, which just create metabolic illness and a cascade of other problems, where other countries who approach the condition differently have much better response rates.
	But what is under the umbrella now of mental illness?
	I guess mental illness is anything that causes some emotional distress at all, any suffering.
	And what I see in my practice, 15 years ago, you know, you'd have a percentage of people that came in on like one psychiatric drug.
	Now it's rare for us to see anybody come into our center without being on at least one psychiatric drug.
	On all of these conditions, nearly 100% of these conditions started with a very understandable life circumstances.
	And their response to life circumstances can be problematic.
	It can either lead you to overcome it, or you can then go down a road in which you self-identify as being ill or broken, and it alters your own perception of who you are.
	But when we talk about these conditions that are on the rise, depression and anxiety, for example, those labels, I really do believe that's a crisis of meaning.
	We're more excluded from each other.
	We're separated.
	We're in this illusion of separation.
	And the more you get disconnected and then you throw yourself into technology and you're living this virtual world under artificial lighting.
	I can't wait to ask you more about this.
	We'll save that for later.
	I mean, you're basically eating poisons, right?
	You have this, you're detached from natural light.
	You're not connected to nature in the way that we used to be.
	You're not interacting together.
	You're creating this virtual world.
	And one of the things that I've done in every single evaluation is I tell somebody, because they're often looking for some type of label or diagnosis for what they're feeling.
	I'll say, pull out your phone.
	Let's look at your screen time.
	And I've seen this over the past 15 years.
	It would start off with someone's like on their phone for like two hours a day.
	And I used to think that was way too much.
	And now I'm seeing eight to 10 hours on that phone is typical for a younger generation.
	So younger generation, I'll say somewhere between 16 and 25.
	You know, that core group that's turning to these drugs, they're self-labeling with these conditions.
	I have depression.
	I have ADHD.
	And they're looking for the chemical solution.
	And they're on their phones eight hours a day in many cases.
	They are.
	If you've ever witnessed, that's just free time.
	They interact with each other on the phones.
	If they're in a group situation, they're on their phones interacting through social media.
	Whoa.
	Okay.
	So, Tyl, were you going to jump in with something else there?
	Yeah, I just wanted to say, can you educate us to what psychosomatic means?
	So when somebody does start to self-label, how that can manifest?
	Yeah, psychosomatic is just those unidentified conditions that we believe are created by the mind, which I would argue there's probably a lot more than what we recognize, that consciousness influences the physical body, influences matter, right?
	So we see this with the placebo effect and how powerful that is.
	It's not just a nuisance for the drug companies to compare their product to.
	Like it is really that the mind has this powerful ability to self-heal, to relieve pain, especially in mental health.
	This is the challenges the pharmaceutical companies had with trying to get SSRIs to market is because the placebo had such a strong response.
	And so we don't create the conditions where people can self-heal, again, under the illusion of separation, believing that what they experience physically is some outside source.
	They don't even, most people, I believe, you know, I was listening to one of your shows recently talking about the myth of like being able to catch a cold or viruses, right?
	So people have this fear-based consciousness, which they enter into all relationships.
	What's the consequence then of being in fear?
	I think that we're, it puts it as a disease state, right?
	So the body's not aligned and the nervous system isn't aligned.
	And what does that do to the immune system?
	So I think we see this range of effects that people have that are termed psychosomatic, but they certainly are a representation of what the media provokes or what one is exposed to in our culture that leads them to like adapt that.
	That's a critical point.
	I'm glad you brought that up because we are trained by the media to believe certain narratives.
	Like if you're sad, it's because of a brain chemistry imbalance that can be corrected with a pill.
	Now, for me personally, I've never taken any psychiatric drugs ever, not once.
	I'm not saying that makes me a better person or whatever.
	I'm just saying I never thought that whatever I was feeling, because I felt the whole range of emotions, sadness, frustration, anger, joy, happiness, whatever.
	But I never thought that the answer to regulating that was going to be found in a pill.
	Now, then again, I'm pretty much at the very edge of the bell curve of like resisting bullshit.
	And not everybody's there.
	But I have always known that these drugs are not going to help me be a better person.
	I've known that things that make me feel good are exercise.
	Or today, I actually exercise in a forest with sunshine and kettlebells on the forest floor.
	I refuse to exercise indoors, regardless of the weather.
	I've been cold and wet out there and happy and joyful, okay, with kettlebells.
	But Tracy, the question to you, what was the gateway that got you onto the psychiatric drugs?
	Were you working with a psychiatrist?
	Was it a self-decision?
	How did you come to believe at that time that those would help you?
	So I suffered a vaccine injury when I was 20 years old, and it was the Gardasil vaccine.
	I was one of the first girls, the first wave of girls given this vaccine.
	No informed consent.
	Didn't know really what it did.
	I just know doctors always know what they're doing.
	And if they tell you to take something, you definitely should.
	I was told it would keep me from getting cancer, not what type of cancer, not, you know.
	Yeah, none of the real details.
	But so I took the vaccine and suffered a severe vaccine injury where by the two weeks after the third of the three shots, I was in the hospital.
	They were trying to put in a pacemaker to keep my heart going.
	I was, you know, when I would stand up, my heart would stop after a few minutes.
	I was in bad shape.
	And then I was put out on social, on, you know, on disability.
	My student loans were written off.
	That doesn't even happen in bankruptcy.
	They monitored you for years.
	And if they decide you are a permanent lost cause, they'll write off your student loans.
	So I was not in good shape.
	And about two years after that, I saw a doctor that wanted to put me on Provigil to, because I was, Provigil is a drug that it's an amphetamine to keep you awake because I was suffering such severe brain fog and hypersomnolence, sleepiness, where I was sleeping up to 16 hours a day.
	And so they wanted to put me on this.
	And I knew that that was an amphetamine.
	And so I said, no, I know that's habit forming.
	It's addictive.
	And they said, tell you what, there's this other drug we can put you on instead that will just give you energy, but it's been out for 30-some years.
	It's not habit-forming at all.
	It's very safe.
	It'll just raise your energy a little.
	It's called Prozac.
	Okay.
	So did they think I was anxious or depressed because I was sick?
	Who knows?
	But it was given to me by a cardiologist.
	So it didn't even occur to me to look up.
	It's bizarre.
	It never occurred to me this was a psychiatric drug that I was being put on.
	And then, do they throw these pills at patients for everything?
	Yep.
	You need to control your mood, control your energy, control your sleep, control blood pressure.
	I mean, it's just pill after pill after pill.
	Yeah, so I'm put on this drug.
	Interestingly, the same day a friend is put on it by the same cardiologist.
	I have questions that will probably never be answered there.
	But then in tandem, we both witnessed our faith disappear, our connection to our partners disappear, our connection to other people disappear.
	Our empathy tank, both of us, you know, were very young, married young, you know, not to the right person, but still.
	And both of us left our marriages almost immediately.
	You know, I was 22 years old, I guess, at this point.
	Wow.
	And yeah, my life was blown up.
	But I didn't realize it was blown up.
	And I think that is true of so many of the people put in these drugs.
	Because you are disconnected, you don't know how disconnected you are.
	And so it was years until I found psychedelics before I realized how disconnected I had become.
	When the connection returned, that was when I knew.
	And so to me, that is one of the greatest dangers here is that there are so many people.
	And my heart hurts for the young women, especially going through this because you don't know what you're going through when you're going through it.
	And what psychedelics did you explore?
	Were you doing micro-dosing?
	Were you doing psilocybin or what kinds of things?
	I had read Michael Pollan's book, How to Change Your Mind.
	And I was dealing with some PTSD issues related to childhood.
	And I couldn't find anyone to do it for me or with me as a guide.
	So I did what I, you know, full disclosure, I would not recommend this to anyone else, but I did it, decided to do it for myself.
	And so I began meditating in a sensory deprivation tank three days a week for 90 minutes.
	And then eventually did a hero's journey dose of psilocybin in a sensory deprivation tank.
	Whoa.
	And I went into that tank one person and came out a very different person.
	As anyone in my life will tell you.
	Tracy before that, Tracy after that, not the same person.
	I had been disconnected from my family completely.
	I had been estranged from my family.
	I came out of that tank having had an equivalent to a near-death experience and having it connected to source consciousness, the experience of being the drop in the ocean but indistinguishable from the ocean.
	And then I wrote a letter to my parents, and it was three connected.
	So your reality must have come flooding back into your consciousness.
	It did.
	In a way.
	It did.
	I mean, I went through it.
	It was equivalent to a life review of people in near-death experiences go through.
	Wow.
	And plus the sensory deprivation must have made it really intense.
	Very intense.
	Yes.
	Have either of you heard of Ibogaine or Iboga?
	Because I interviewed a woman who does, I guess, Iboga type of experience, leading people through those experiences, which are apparently quite profound.
	Is that either one of you, is that of some therapeutic exploration for people?
	Does that have a role in healing?
	Now, a lot of that's anecdotal evidence.
	I think we need more scientific evaluation.
	With all these drugs, including psychedelics, for example, the question is always for whom, under what conditions, for what?
	And those things are really important to study.
	As a social scientist myself, I'm very interested because I've come across veterans and survivors of various trauma who their healing came through that experience.
	And it's really important because what they begin to realize is that there was some purpose for the challenge that they went through.
	And so when we talk about the interconnectedness of all things, is you walk out of an experience like that and your perception of what happened to you shifts dramatically.
	That comes from that experience.
	And if we can find a way to recreate that in a therapeutic sense, I think that really changes our outcomes because the typical psychotherapy approach to treating PTSD is slow.
	The outcomes are moderately strong, depending on the type of therapy that's provided.
	But a one-session psilocybin treatment and it changes the life of a veteran, those are things we have to pay attention to.
	Yeah.
	Well, exactly.
	Todd, let me ask the next question, then it'll be back to you.
	But there's someone in my family who is a counselor, I don't know, mental health counselor.
	And they tell me that in their whole experience, many decades of doing this, they've never seen people more stressed, more emotionally distraught and frustrated and so on.
	Is there an external factor of just life being harder today for economic reasons, for political strife reasons, for social media, AI job replacement?
	All these factors that come in.
	It's hard to afford a house, especially for younger generations.
	How much do these impact what you are seeing in your practice?
	Those are major factors as well.
	But I look back at human history and just our ancestors and what they've had to go through just to immigrate here or the challenges with famine and war and disease.
	True.
	We are resilient people.
	But what happens when we separate and isolate ourselves from each other?
Tapering Into Drift 00:15:33
	We're no longer really tribal.
	And so I think it's a different type of condition that people are experiencing where there's a lot more attachment to technology.
	There's not as many conscious beings.
	And what I mean by that is people come into my office and there's not a high-level degree of self-awareness of their own internal world because they're in what I call drift, a great book, Outwitting the Devil by Napoleon Hill, introduced this concept called drift.
	Fascinating book because the devil's discussing how he influences souls on this earth.
	And drift is anytime we're just not conscious.
	So at that point, radio, but then television and now the use of smartphones and technologies, we're not really mindful and present to the same extent.
	And so what we're doing is we're being heavily influenced then by propaganda.
	And that propaganda is defining the human experience.
	That's why it's so important for us to disconnect fully from technology, be able to be in stillness more often, be able to be in nature more often, and most importantly, have in-person contact and connect with each other.
	So the more we become isolated and we're not in these real relationships anymore, we're in this virtual world, and you're numbing yourself out with alcohol and Netflix and SSRIs.
	To me, it's very clear that the natural consequence to that is to be miserable and to be sick.
	And that's what we see.
	Now, there are other factors economically, of course, two parents having to work and then the challenges with their own kids.
	There's a whole nother issue.
	Let me ask Todd's AI avatar.
	Todd, what a great guest, huh?
	I mean, both of them today.
	We haven't covered this topic on this show.
	This is really critical.
	We haven't.
	And Tracy, it's like, wow, from what I know about a hero's dose of shrooms, what are you, 120 pounds?
	Wow, that's crazy.
	And your story connected with me.
	I have somebody very special in my life who's just had a traumatic upbringing and really, really tried to get themselves off the same drug that you did.
	And ultimately, they went through a similar journey, whether it be through, you know, shrooms or they did do eboga in ayahuasca.
	And it wasn't until they tried, and I'm not endorsing this, I'm just sharing the story: ketamine, the ketamine lozenges or whatever, to where she had an amazing breakthrough.
	So really opens my mind up to these, I don't know, natural treatments, I guess.
	But my question is this towards you, Tracy: is what happens because you referred to your atheism and then having a experience that modified everything to you that lifted the veil.
	What happens when therapy removes God, purpose, and moral framework from healing, Tracy?
	I'm now unapologetically not an atheist.
	Nice.
	And I would say, I don't know how one can truly heal without knowing who you truly are.
	Very good.
	We're souls that come here to have a human experience.
	I am not Tracy, right?
	I am a soul who came here to have a human experience.
	Tracy is the costume.
	Like Mike is the costume.
	Roger is the costume.
	But who we are are souls who came here to have an experience.
	We didn't come here to be numbed out.
	We didn't come here to be drugged.
	We came here to have the polarities, the highs, the lows, the joys, the sorrows of a human experience.
	And When I finally decided, when I finally realized what the SSRIs were and decided to take myself off them, I would not recommend people do this by themselves.
	There's a great gentleman called Anders Sorensen who has a substack.
	People can go look up called Crossing Zero, who has a fantastic book, again, called Crossing Zero, which walks through safe tapering.
	And I recommend anyone who wants to get off these drugs, go read that.
	Go read his writings before you go to a doctor and trust their advice on how to taper, because most doctors don't know how to do it correctly.
	But I did it myself because I didn't trust medical authorities at this point.
	And I didn't do it right.
	I did it in a linear taper rather than a taper that gets very slow at the end.
	And so it was a difficult experience for me.
	But I started it two weeks before my mother was diagnosed with an aggressive stage four cancer that was going to be terminal.
	So I'm experiencing coming back online emotionally at the time that I am losing the person I love most in the world.
	Wow.
	And it was a crucible.
	If you asked your average psychiatrist, they would have absolutely told me, get back on that drug.
	You're feeling too much.
	This pain is going to be too deep.
	And it was deeply painful.
	It was searing.
	But how much worse would it have been for me to not feel that pain?
	For me to not experience it.
	It should hurt.
	I loved my mother.
	Pain is the price we pay for love.
	Grief is that price.
	And so for me, there was healing in the pain.
	There's healing in the grief.
	And to me, what is so broken about this idea of pain being bad, psychological, emotional, spiritual pain automatically being bad, is it is often where we grow the most.
	When my mother died two years later, I spent much of the last week just sitting with her, holding her hand, singing to her.
	I was able to be present spiritually in a way I never could have been on the drugs.
	Did it hurt more?
	Of course it did, but it should have.
	And so to me, that's the biggest deal: the lie is don't feel.
	The reality is realize who you are, what you came here for.
	And pain is part of that experience.
	Right.
	And thank you for sharing that very intimate experience, by the way.
	And you've hit upon so many critical points.
	You know, the modern-day soma of our society is: are these numbing drugs?
	But speaking about religion and spirituality, the Christian community in America is on all kinds of SSRIs.
	And they are so numb.
	And this is my opinion statement, but the vast majority of conservative Christians in America now endorse genocide.
	They feel nothing for fellow human beings.
	They think they are ambassadors of Jesus Christ, who never would have committed genocide while they are endorsing wars, attacks, bombing children, shooting doctors in hospitals in Gaza, et cetera.
	And I have to think, but the question to you, Roger, I have to think that that's more than just kind of like a religious thematic indoctrination.
	There's something really disconnected, especially in people who claim to know Christ and yet endorse violence against innocent children that never made sense to me.
	And I didn't mean to make this political about the Middle East, but it is happening.
	It is something that's going on in our world with the Christian community right now.
	We're clearly in a spiritual battle.
	There's no doubt about that.
	And one way the dark and the enemy can win this war is by shifting or altering the human experience.
	What makes us human is our shared empathy and our connection for others.
	The fact that we can become desensitized to images of homicide, genocide, and then try to rationalize it in some way as if it's of God is one of the more confusing aspects of our modern time for me personally.
	And that's where I'm really concerned about the psychiatric drugging of our population and the amount of Christians that are willing to take SSRIs.
	Because as I mentioned earlier, and Tracy did such a great job of explaining this, is it does sever us from that deep and depths of the emotional experience, the empathy that is necessary to protect one another, to really feel hurt for a fellow human being.
	We have these mirror neurons.
	It's part of the human experience to love one another.
	And that's a strong message throughout scriptures.
	And the more that the enemy attempts to sever that connection amongst each other, then that spiritual darkness is what wins in a time like this.
	And we have to wake up our fellow Christians to the love and connection and empathy to one another.
	There's no justification for murder, in my opinion, at all.
	And it's been a sad state of affairs.
	Todd, your comments?
	Well, yeah, I think I kind of want to talk about technology, AI, and we do want to get to that.
	Let's go ahead and pivot.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, I believe we're witnessing mass psychological conditioning through digital platforms.
	And I believe, I concur with you.
	I believe there is spiritual warfare going on right now.
	I happen to believe it rewinds back to Genesis 6.
	And the people behind all of it, they've been at it for a long time, eons.
	And I believe these disembodied spirits, that their food is fear, is outrage.
	And so my question to you, doctor, is how damaging are algorithms built on fear and outrage in our digital platforms?
	I mean, like social media algorithms that amplify the absolute clickbait.
	Yeah, very damaging.
	I've been publishing a series on brainwashing for my substack, going into these psychological techniques, these psyops and the way that they influence us.
	And so obviously, because we have these ancestral scripts where we are built to survive, number one.
	So what's going to garner our attention is anything that can provoke that fear.
	And it's script breaking, right?
	Uh-oh, that's dangerous.
	I have to pay attention to it.
	And then the second thing is from an ancestral perspective, if we did not pay attention to the authority within our tribe, then we would be outside the tribe and we'd be vulnerable to death.
	So that's like in our brainstem, right?
	That's so biological.
	Obedience is hardwired.
	Yep, hardwired in there.
	And so these algorithms, of course, they're going to be able to measure everything about your attention because your attention is the commodity.
	And so if you just pause on a certain reel or something on your feed, right?
	They're measuring that.
	And that's why you're pushed, especially young, you know, young men are pushed these bodies of girls.
	So you pause and you get more and more porn or violence at the same time.
	You get more and more of these images.
	You know, there's a reason Charlie Kirk's assassination was pushed out into the field in that way.
	And it's what happens, we're in that drift again.
	So we're in this like alpha state, and we're ingesting this into our subconscious.
	And then our automatic reactions to a lot of life events are then that same fear provocation where we're more likely just to fall in line to whatever the authority tells us to do.
	We're mass conditioned in that way.
	And that's why you isolate people too.
	Because what's interesting in the Milgram experiments, the obedience experiments, what they don't publish, what they haven't posted, was that there were further research evaluations into what happens under various conditions.
	And if the person observes someone resisting, so the Milgram experiments was the electric shock experiments, where we saw that 67% of human beings would continue to follow the authority to provide an innocent person an electric shock that would kill them.
	So that means 67% of people can be pushed to murder a fellow human being if the authority tells them to continue to do it.
	However, if somebody resisted ahead, that went down to 10%.
	So it's so important.
	That's us.
	We are the resistors who show others.
	Yes.
	So that's why it is so important to understand who your authority is.
	You have one authority, and that is God, and that's the moral authority.
	And that is how we should be making decisions.
	And we should be connecting with each other to understand that we have a God-given right to resist authority that oppresses and harms other people.
	And what's really, I'm glad you brought up the Milgram experiments because one of the critical aspects of that was, as I recall from reading some of the, because it was reproduced so many times in so many labs all over the world.
	But when the study subject would verbally offer resistance, I don't want to shock the person.
	The authority figure would say, but the protocol requires you to continue.
	See, here it is on the clipboard.
	And the person, okay, it's required.
	That's the way people comply with the IRS, with any kind of government survey forms, which I just throw in the trash.
	You know, everything the government's telling you, oh, you have to register this, you have to do that.
	ATF, register your arm brace AR-15.
	I'm like, I don't think so.
	No, I'm not going to do that.
	And then that got overturned anyway.
	So no longer a felon.
	But it's all the same authority bullshit, isn't it?
	And it's all fiction.
	It's a fiction that people make real in their mind, isn't it?
	It's also rooted in our educational system.
	So you look at the public school system, is what are you conditioned to do from such a young age?
	Is that you are to follow the authority, which is that teacher, right?
	Sit in your rows.
	The bells are the factory bells, raise your hand.
	Do not speak unless your hand is raised.
	And God forbid, you act like a child.
	You know, you want to actually move, right?
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	You're going to now, you know, they're going to get that referral for these made-up conditions like ADHD.
	So you're conditioned at a very young age to have to follow the rules.
	And so people are so scared, again, back to those ancestral scripts to step outside of what they view to be as the tribe.
	And there's always usually only a small group of people percentage-wise who are willing to fully resist.
	And they get labeled, you know, in this troublemakers.
	And of course, this is where the psychiatric industrial complex comes into play.
	How easy now it is to view that there's something wrong with you when really there's everything right with you.
	Right.
	Mike, I think it's appropriate for you to share with Dr. McPhillan the very first book that you ever wrote with your AI.
	That's true.
	Yeah, so you know, I built the book engine at brightlearn.ai.
	And actually, I announced on this show with Todd, I said the very first book that I want to produce with this is called Awaken Your Inner Middle Finger.
	I love that.
	And the author is Fu Kauf.
	And that was actually the first book that was published with the new engine.
	Now it's 20,000 books.
	But number one starts with, it's actually, the symbol is a middle finger with a happy face.
	Yep.
	Awesome.
	And it was like the perfect symbolism for the message here.
	Awaken your inner middle finger.
	Yes.
	So, I mean, Tracy, talk to us.
	You said no to the psychiatric industrial complex at some point.
	I did.
	And you've been saying no to these false authorities the entire time.
	How empowering has that been for you to just say no where it's appropriate?
	Not that you're not a difficult person.
	You're a very pleasant person to be around.
	You offer great gifts to humanity, but you also hold your boundaries and say F off where appropriate.
	Talk about that.
	I do.
	And I wouldn't have had the ability, the health to take on the fights that I've been here on the show before to talk about if I hadn't stopped listening to the medical complex and decided to heal myself.
	So that wasn't just from the psychiatric drugs.
	It was from the vaccine injury.
	So for me, that was the first step in that was raw milk.
	Yeah.
	Which, you know, at the time, someone told me to try it.
	I was skeptical.
	I knew nothing about it other than it was very dangerous.
	But if you'd told me, you know, cut off a limb and you might, you know, you might heal, I would have considered that as well.
	So I decided to try it.
	You know, wouldn't have been at all surprised to, you know, get catch some terrible listeria or something.
	But instead, within weeks, I started to improve and feel better.
	And it was one of those moments of, oh, I see.
	Okay.
	So the thing that I'm told could kill me is the thing that's healing me.
	And it's deliberate.
	It's an engineered paradigm.
	Exactly.
	And so from there, one of my first activities, one of my first acts of resistance was to begin helping with the Amos Miller case.
	And at the time I got involved there, he was facing arrest, his farm being seized, his wife potentially being arrested as well.
	And while the case isn't over, before I moved on to working on other projects, we'd gotten him to the point where he was open, he was working, and the government had more or less backed off in a standoff position.
	And from there, I moved on to helping the Roger Veer case.
	So I would say that in general, listening to my own inner compass, listening to my own intuition has served me far better to listening to any authority figure.
	Because God reaches us through our intuition.
	That is the still small voice.
	And so it has been the greatest joy of my life to have my health back so that I can use it to devote to human freedom.
	Wow.
	Well said.
	And we're all blessed to have you focus on human freedom.
	And you've been very, very effective.
	Todd, I know you've got more questions, so go for it.
	Yeah, well, I think just kind of on the heels of Awaken Your Internal Middle Finger, Roger, question for you.
	If healing requires sovereignty, what's the first act of rebellion that people should take?
	Everything is happening for you, not to you.
	So the moment that you begin to approach your life, knowing that even the challenges, even the struggles are there for your own benefit, for your soul's growth, you start pulling yourself outside of this psychiatric drug model, this mental illness model, and you see the human experience for what it is.
	We speak about the hero journey is more than just taking a large dose of psilocybin.
	Also, that process that you're on in your life to struggle and then find your purpose.
	And I see that as also like the resurrection.
	You know, there's parts of us that are supposed to die and then be reborn.
	And those parts of us that are supposed to die are the ones where we've made mistakes, where we've hurt ourselves, where we've hurt others.
	And I think we get closer to God in that process.
	So I think you say, you know, fuck off to this label that's going to limit and restrict our human potential and at worst is going to put you in a vulnerable position to be drugged and numbed.
	And you start seeing your life for what it is, that it is purposeful and it is meaningful and it's meaningful beyond just your day-to-day trials and tribulations.
	There's greater lessons here.
	And I think that's the first part.
	So let me jump in on this, Todd.
	Okay, sure.
	The pattern of what you're describing, Tracy and Roger, is this is way beyond a conspiracy.
	This is an engineered pattern where the authorities ban access to anything that helps people heal.
	Raw milk, psilocybin.
	Many different herbs have been banned, such as mahuang in Chinese medicine or ephedra, as it's known in Western.
	And then it's banned for anyone to tell the truth about things, simple things like vitamin C cures scurvy, or tart cherry extract cures gout, or vitamin D cures rickets.
	Even though these are well-established known facts, you're not allowed to say any of these things at all if you sell those products.
	You can't put it on the label.
	So there, and I guess this is my question.
	I mean, clearly there's a deliberate effort to dehumanize people because what's pushed are the things that cloud your mind, that confuse you, or that thicken that barrier that you were talking about, that isolate you from reality and from your connection to society and the cosmos.
	So how do we not conclude that this is a deliberate effort?
	It's so obvious at this point.
	Well, it's an anti-human, transhumanist agenda.
	The roots are in eugenics.
	I mean, you can look back pre-World War II.
	I mean, it's the same idea.
	It's just evolved.
	And so when you push birth control on populations where you want to limit reproduction, there's a certain attack on life when you poison the food source, when you ban medicines that are designed to heal and work with the body.
	So there's no doubt that it's deliberate.
	You're creating sickness and you're creating dependence.
	And when they are pretty open about their contempt for human beings, the transhumanists are very open.
	They believe the population of the world needs to be decreased.
	We're certain there's a large percent of the populations are nothing but parasites, and that's how they view you.
	And that human beings need to be upgraded with technology and AI and that human consciousness can live forever.
	It really is an agenda that is anti-God or anti-antichrist.
	And we have to see it for what it is and human potential and being in alignment with that greater source is much more powerful than any technology that can ever be created.
	Yeah.
	I did want to ask you about AI.
	But Todd, you have a question, a comment.
	Yeah, Roger.
	So where should someone begin if they want to detox from the mental health system?
	That's a big question.
	Well, you have to start with radically genuine substack and podcast, of course.
	No, that makes sense.
	Excellent.
	Yeah, I think a lot of people are just kind of red-pilled right now because they've been harmed by the allopathic medical model.
	And so, what you're starting to see is this becoming a little bit more mainstream.
	To what extent, I don't know, because of that algorithm that we've discussed previously, we end up getting stuck in an algorithm.
	When I first started talking out against the psychiatric industrial complex and the harms of SSRIs, I was vilified, absolutely vilified.
	And what's kind of scary for me right now is that's not happening because now I only get the crowd that approves of my message.
	But when I go out into the real world and I have these conversations, I'm branded a conspiracy theorist still, despite all the range of evidence that we have.
	It's still a relatively new topic.
	Thank God for podcasts like you, when you go out into what people are exposed to in the public school system and academia, they still talk about these drugs as if they're life-saving.
	I did a rap song in 2007 called SSR Lies.
	You're ahead of the game.
	That was, yeah, and that was considered pretty radical.
	Or maybe it was 2008, but anyway, it was a long time ago.
	But the thing that I found over the years is that almost everything that I used to talk about that was considered fringe or radical, like even about the Federal Reserve or how gold and silver are real money, but fiat currencies are not, or dangers of vaccines, et cetera.
	Almost all these things are now accepted by a very large portion of society.
	And I think the COVID years really taught a lot of people some lessons.
	I think the outcomes of recent elections, the last three or four elections, have taught people a lot about the lies of politics and promises and so on.
	But it's hard to not call this some kind of mass awakening.
	And Tracy, speak to this.
	Do you think there's a mass awakening?
	Is this real?
	Is this going to continue to accelerate?
	I do.
	I do believe it's going to accelerate.
	And I see so many people in my own circles who previously were perhaps materialist atheists, perhaps just agnostic, perhaps just hadn't engaged at all, coming to a realization that there is something more.
	It's as if some piece of them is beginning to remember, remember who they are.
	And what I think we need to be aware of and be vigilant of is that, as Roger referred to earlier in this conversation, some of these people are being drugged as they awaken.
	Right.
	You know, young woman who has a religious awakening, you know, goes out into the street and asks people, like, how can I pray for you?
	Which any of us who, you know, who have experienced that divine love flowing through us understand that feeling.
	And, you know, a woman like this who then ends up being reported for a wellness check by a family member who's a materialist, who's concerned for her well-being, you know, and ends up being forcibly drugged and held against her will in a psychiatric hospital.
	These things are happening.
	And so I believe an awakening is happening, but I believe that we need to be here to support the people who do awaken.
	Yeah.
	And that they need to have a framework to understand it when it happens so that when it happens, they are protected from these types of outcomes.
	Well, that's what this show teaches that very principle is helping people on their journey to awakening.
	And decentralization is the term that Todd and I came up with.
	It's coming up three years.
	This show is almost three years old.
	But it applies to everything.
	It's about decentralizing your reliance on false authority, decentralizing from your reliance on fake currency or fake messaging, fake news or fake science or whatever the case may be, fake medicine.
	Exactly.
	That hurt you.
	A lot of fake medicine out there.
	Fake taxation.
	Fake taxation.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	Right.
	But what's amazing to me is how much of all of this is self-inflicted with consent because people go along with it.
	Right.
	And it's as if I could reach everybody in the world with one message, it would be to trust in yourself and your creator rather than your government and your authorities.
	Very good.
	That would change the world, just that one switch right there.
	Roger, you want to go ahead.
	I mean, and one thing that I think about often is that when people are in drift, when people are scrolling, when people are watching TV, when they're stuck on social media, you can't hear the still small voice.
	That still small voice that is God, that is your intuition.
	True.
	To hear that, you need to be alone with your thoughts.
	You need to be quiet.
	And so much is teaching us, don't be alone with your thoughts.
	Whatever you do, God forbid, you would just be for a few minutes.
	Yeah.
	You know, we have, if we're not scrolling, we have music, we have a podcast, we have something.
	We're so rarely quiet.
	And when we're, you know, we're also in the grind culture here in America.
	You know, I just spent a year in Europe where it's people have a much more balanced life.
	But here where it's just, we're somehow morally failing if we ever stop striving for two minutes.
	But that's where we connect.
	And if we connect and listen, start with just five minutes a day of just silence, observing your thoughts, not trying to force them, just observing them.
	And if you do that, you will find eventually you start to hear your intuition again.
	That thing you've probably, you may have even forgotten exists.
	And that, to me, is where healing begins.
	It's where sovereignty begins.
	It's where remembering who we really are begins.
	How many inner voices is okay?
	No.
	What if they argue with each other?
	No, I'm kidding.
	Roger, we're coming up on the hour here.
	I would like to invite each of you to put an end cap on this, sort of what's the takeaway for our audience?
	Because we always want to make this practical, right, Todd?
	We want to make it practical.
	This isn't about theory or philosophy as much as we want to help people literally navigate this very challenging reality so that they can survive with their freedom intact, with their souls intact, and also with joyfulness and abundance.
Waking Up From Propaganda 00:05:47
	That's critical.
	And we've helped so many of our listeners in so many ways.
	That's why they love this show.
	Their lives are improved because of what they've learned here.
	So with that as the context, what would you like to add, Roger?
	Well, if you wanted to manufacture mental illness, if you wanted to create a portion of the population to feel completely disconnected from purpose and meaning, what you would do is you would create through propaganda, through the use of commercials, direct-to-consumer advertising, mass messaging around this idea of mental illness,
	and you would lead people to have an internal judgment and struggle with their own experience that would lead them to go talk to a doctor about it.
	And then to be placed on harmful pharmaceuticals that are going to damage your mind, going to disconnect you from your soul and create metabolic dysfunction where you can't get off the drugs.
	And when you try to, then they'll talk about those symptoms of being relapse of a mental illness that they never medically or biologically can observe anyway.
	So that's exactly what's happened.
	We've no longer, we've moved further away from this idea of normalizing the pain and struggle of the human experience.
	We've tried to disconnect our culture from God.
	God is a bad word for therapists in the way that they're trained.
	It's mass indoctrination.
	So the waking up that we spoke about today is pulling ourselves out of a system that's designed to harm us.
	And there needs to be parallel systems.
	Like we have to recreate systems and communities where we can bring these messages back, where there's mentors and elders and stories, you know, things that have been passed down for generations from thriving cultures that has been purposely, you know, we've been disconnected from them.
	And what has been replaced by that is the expert authority that's been pushed on us or the state.
	And so I think it's a return to some ancestral roots and understanding how human beings flourish and thrive.
	To me, it's absurd the way that we're living.
	And I think for a lot of people, it is, especially if you're older, if you've been in this transition state that you've gone from, you know, the 70s or 80s, and then you started to see how these psychiatric drugs, illnesses, and then the technology boom has shifted our culture.
	And so I think it's back to some common sense approaches.
	And if I can plug one thing is I recently started a nonprofit called the Conscious Clinician Collective.
	And that's where we try to unite mental health professionals as well as physicians who are going to oppose the label and drug model that's being pushed on our population.
	And people have to have somebody to turn to.
	And that's one of the challenges that exists.
	I get so many emails.
	Where do I turn to?
	We're having legitimate struggles in our family with a family member, and we need some guidance, but where do we go to?
	And there's not many options.
	So we have to create a community and we have to create alternative healing centers and we have to open up conversations that I think are just more common sense and based on just kind of the roots of what it takes to live well.
	Well said.
	Well, I would say the good news is the current system probably can't continue much longer because it's so self-destructive.
	Either it will fall or be reformed in one or the other.
	Tracy, your take?
	Your final thoughts?
	To me, it's pretty simple.
	Remember who you are.
	Listen to the voice inside you.
	That is the source of wisdom.
	That's the source of sovereignty.
	That's where God reaches you.
	There is no authority in your life above God.
	There is no authority in your life above yourself and God.
	And I hope that I'm an inspiration to someone who's out there right now who's on these drugs or has a family member who's on these drugs or has suffered a vaccine injury or is otherwise chronically ill, who's seeing right now that there is a possibility, there is hope.
	This isn't a death sentence.
	This isn't the reality you have to accept for the rest of your life.
	Because I think it was Henry Ford that said, you know, if you believe you can or you believe you can't, you're right.
	And step one is knowing it's possible.
	And for me, that was step one.
	I, you know, you know me, Mike, like I'm here today.
	I'm like a picture of health.
	And I used to be completely disabled.
	And so I hope there are other people out there today that hear this, that receive a spark of hope, and it's the beginning of their healing journey.
	How can people follow your work?
	I mean, you don't really publish on the website, do you?
	No, I've been pretty private.
	I'll be coming out a little more over the next year or so.
	But I'm on ex at Tracy A. Thurman.
	I don't post often right now.
	I've been writing at the Brownson Institute, but I haven't written there that much recently.
	But you will see more from me in the next year or so.
	Okay.
	We welcome that.
	Thank you both.
	Todd, let me ask for your final thoughts here before we go to the after party.
	My final thought is: I don't want to take any spin off of the message Tracy just gave.
	I'm good.
	Yeah.
	That was awesome.
	Yeah, that was.
	Yeah, fantastic.
	Well, we're really humbled to have you both here to share this, I think, really critical message.
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	Thank you for taking the time to travel here, to be here, to share, in many cases, very intimate experiences that you've been through, struggles and so on, because they're common.
	I mean, many people can benefit from what you've just offered.
	We appreciate you both.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Mike.
	Thank you, Todd.
	Yeah.
	Cheers.
	All right.
	So, folks, with that, we're going to take a break and then we'll be back with the after party.
	And I have no idea how that's going to go today, but I think it will start with voices in our heads.
	What do you think, Todd?
	I know how it's going to go.
	Exactly.
	It's how they always go, which is just off the rails.
	No, wait.
	Hey, before we go to the after party, I have a quiz for our guests here today.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Let me let me let me grab this.
	Hold on.
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	This is just a little pop quiz about the nature of our consumer society.
	So here is a product called Log Cabin Syrup.
	And I just bought this at retail.
	This isn't a trick.
	The large text on the front says, no high fructose corn syrup.
	Okay.
	You see it, right?
	It's right there.
	No high fructose corn syrup.
	Can either of you guess what the first and most prominent ingredient is in log cabin syrup?
	I'm going to guess another form of corn syrup.
	Oh, you nailed it.
	It's corn syrup.
	Tracy nailed it.
	Todd, we have a winner.
	Crazy.
	You win a free bottle of log cabin.
	No high fructose corn syrup.
	Yeah.
	So the number one ingredient is corn syrup.
	So, I mean, think about this, Roger.
	The level of deception in society where they can say, well, there's no high fructose corn syrup.
	It's just corn syrup.
	It's like, are you kidding me?
	But isn't this a great model for kind of what we're told by the medical industry?
	Right.
	Psychiatric industry.
	Well, I'm sure they feed that at school lunches.
	Yeah.
	And kids go back to school and they fall asleep or they can't focus and we'll give them another label.
	Yeah.
	Very good.
	Right.
	But it's incredible.
	And yet the FDA will harass makers of herbs or homeopathy or nutritional supplements or raw milk.
	Yeah.
	But not these companies that are deceiving, in my view, deceiving their customers with this kind of misleading labeling.
	Exactly.
	It's criminal.
	It's the FDA.
	It's the government.
	Of course it's criminal.
	Okay.
	Anyway, you passed the quiz with flying colors.
	So good job.
	Good job.
	All right.
	And by the way, I have our store products over here with actually no corn syrup at all.
	And you are welcome.
	Both of you are welcome to our freeze-dried fruit selection.
	Oh, I can't wait.
	Everything that we have.
	Yeah, we'll do that.
	All right.
	So thank you again for joining us and having fun with us with this format.
	All right.
	So to our viewers, we're going to take a break and Todd and I will be back with an unpredictable after party.
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Suppressing Fear 00:06:01
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	All right, welcome back.
	This is the after party.
	Todd, that was a lot, that was a deep, deep subject.
	That was really, really deep.
	And it triggered something, Mike, that probably the most transformational thing in my life from a personal standpoint and my life changed when I began to take a real deep dive, and it was referenced in the show, but when I took a real deep dive and began to study the writings of Dr. Fu Koff, Mike.
	Dr. Fu.
	Yeah, he's got it nailed.
	Yes, he does.
	But, you know, we were talking about false authorities and such and how people kind of genuflect and bend down to the white coats and those they think are in authority.
	And man, look where this world is today after we've followed all of those false authorities, Mike.
	It's a mess.
	Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
	That is the reason why there's so much human suffering in the world because belief in false authority.
	And I do want to just give a tip to our audience that it's very important.
	You know how, for example, if you're in a company and you're on a board of directors or some kind of council, like nothing gets done because there's too many people.
	And, you know, it's sort of like the more people you gather together at once, the lower the aggregate intelligence becomes.
	And it's easier to be an entrepreneur or just do your own thing and make the decision and get it done.
	I just want to give a tip.
	The same thing's true for voices in your head.
	So you should fire the board of directors in your head and reduce the number of voices to just one.
	The entrepreneurial voice in your head.
	Well, two.
	The entrepreneurial voice.
	And then let's include God at the table.
	Well, I just figure God is behind the entrepreneurial voice.
	That's what I was thinking.
	It's kind of a divinely inspired voice.
	Perfect.
	But simplify the voices in your head to have more success in life.
	Yeah.
	You don't want them arguing with each other.
	No, you don't.
	You don't.
	But I especially think, and I'm being dead serious here.
	I especially think people need to suppress the voice of fear in your mind.
	Right.
	Because I think that is that destroys more people than anything.
	And believe it or not, you can shut it off.
	You can just like draw a line in the sand and say fear.
	No, you move.
	I'm not budging.
	Right.
	And pursue positive.
	I mean, it really is life-changing when you do that, Mike.
	And you know, fear is something that that's up to an individual's interpretation.
	So I've done podcasts before where I talk about, hey, you know, maybe a quarter of the world's population will be exterminated, but you can easily survive that because they won't get people who are prepared.
	And I've had reactions like, that was so fearful when you said that.
	Like, you mean you made it fearful?
	I wasn't pushing fear at all.
	I was just telling you, there's going to be more parking spaces available.
	And it's pretty easy to be in the top 1% of prepared people since nobody else is prepared.
	So you're going to be the hardest to kill of all.
	That's actually good news.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, I guess when I think of fear, I'm thinking of the fear of standing up to false authorities.
	And I think there are so many paper tigers out there.
	And just that whole segment, right?
	These self-imposed authorities or whatnot.
	When you challenge them at all, You know, it's empowering, right?
	It's like when John J. Singleton and I filed that three-count lawsuit against Costco, we didn't get a judgment because we didn't ask for a judgment, but we got them to change their policy at the third appellate court level.
	It took a while, but you know, it was just kind of a one guy, but screw it.
	You know, I'm not going to bend the knee.
	Yeah.
	And I just think that if we all exercise that muscle, you're just going to find it empowering and you'll live life.
	And guess what?
	The boogeyman really doesn't come knocking.
	Yeah.
	I mean, you're right.
	I mean, my company, we filed suit against the U.S. State Department.
	And the courts finally forced the DOJ to respond, which they just did.
	Wow.
	Just in the last couple of days.
	And it's so funny.
	I mean, we're going to do a whole show with our counsel about that response, but the short version is that the DOJ majorly goofed up.
	They assigned the case to clearly a junior attorney who had no idea what she was doing and cited the wrong precedent and everything that the DOJ totally screwed it up, which gives us such a leg up for the next step.
	It's wild.
	It's almost like they handed us a gift of incompetence.
	That's great.
	Yeah.
	But yeah, we sued the government.
	We sued Google.
	We sued them all.
	And we actually have a good shot at winning this whole thing.
	I think he will.
	Well, we're going to take it to the Supreme Court if necessary, whatever it takes, you know?
	But at least at the end of the day, we didn't cower in fear.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And say, oh, well, they rule our existence and we, you know, they can control what we're allowed to speak.
	Yeah, screw that.
	I don't live in that world.
	Yeah, you didn't read those self-help books by Ben Dover.
Sharing Gems From the Show 00:06:40
	Mr. Dover's had a hard life.
	Poor Mr. Dover.
	I do want to tell you, you know, when we took our break from the show to the after party, I did go sit down.
	And you know what I did, Mike?
	This is what I love about our guests.
	They give us gems and, you know, we should all kind of pick up those gems every once in a while.
	I am an audiobook guy.
	I like listening when I'm getting in my steps.
	And I just downloaded Outwitting the Devil.
	And I can't wait to start listening to it.
	Dr. McPhilland referenced.
	Okay.
	Very cool.
	Outwitting the Devil.
	He did mention a book by a Napoleon.
	Yeah, that was the one.
	Yeah.
	Oh, but I was thinking there's a much more philosophical author called Napoleon Dynamite.
	Don't forget about Napoleon Dynamite's books.
	Yeah, he's a must.
	He's also fun.
	Yes.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah.
	You should read that first thing in the morning.
	Right.
	Can I share something with you, Mike?
	Sure.
	About you changing lives.
	Okay, please.
	You know, ever since your April 2nd broadcast on the tax revolt, I've been a very busy man, you know, with over 60 consultations for the.
	Wait, January 2nd.
	January 2nd.
	I'm sure I'm sorry.
	January 2nd.
	Yeah.
	Just like, you know, right yesterday almost.
	Yeah.
	But anyway, anyway, you stirred up the souls of many.
	And thank you.
	But so I have heard so many people want or ask me to share with you how you've changed their lives.
	Really?
	And I want to give you one example.
	And he'll know that I'm talking about him.
	And I'm going to call him out by name.
	But it's Ken Cartier.
	Okay.
	And he's a gentleman who is, I believe, 62 years old.
	And he used to be in, he used to make music and he used to be a producer and such.
	And he listened to our last episode where at the end, I told the story about meeting my wife and her voice and everything.
	Right.
	And you know what he sent my wife and me yesterday?
	He sent a music, a song that he made based on that story.
	with Suno that included, that touched on everything from Ekaterinberg meeting halfway across the world, sheep a doodle dog.
	I mean, it was everything that I talked about in there.
	And he said, I could only write that because of Mike, because he opened my eyes to Suno and that I could do that.
	He said, it used to be that I would never, ever be able to get anything accomplished because I couldn't get all the musicians on the same page.
	Nobody could schedule it on the same time in studio.
	And he said, this is just magical.
	And I mean, and I have to tell you, I played it for my wife yesterday and she started crying.
	It was so beautiful.
	I'll send it to you so you can listen to it.
	He is amazing.
	So, Ken, thank you.
	Thank you for doing that.
	That was very special.
	It is very special to us.
	You are amazing.
	Your wife, she has such a great voice.
	I bet it's even cute when she's crying.
	Well, you know what?
	I decided to call Ken with Yana there.
	And sure enough, he agreed with me that her voice is pretty amazing.
	Yeah, she has a pretty amazing voice.
	That was funny because we should update the audience because until just a few days ago, I had never seen a picture of your wife.
	Right.
	And because I've only heard her voice when you and I are on calls or whatever, or she would say something in the background.
	Todd, stop doing no, no, no, I'm kidding.
	And I was just commenting because I actually, I have this weird skill where I can voice print people.
	Like I can instantly recognize voices without seeing faces.
	Like if a famous actor is doing a voiceover of an ad or something, I'm like, oh, that's Morgan Freeman or that's whoever.
	For me, the voice is the most real sensory experience.
	Anyway, so I'd heard your wife's voice.
	I was like, wow, I love the way that she pronounces English.
	And then in the last week, you sent me a picture of you and her as a younger couple, I guess, right after your wedding or something.
	Is that what that was?
	That's right.
	That was at our wedding.
	That's amazing.
	You both are so beautiful there together.
	Thanks for sending that picture.
	Now I do have a face to attach to her voice.
	Right.
	And I've heard your voice for a long time, but I'm not as enamored with it, Todd.
	Honestly, I'm just saying.
	Well, everybody, this went a long way for us to make a special announcement that on future DTV episodes, I won't be here.
	My wife will be.
	That's hilarious.
	But I'll walk the dogs.
	You'll walk the dogs.
	He's going to put her in.
	Yes.
	Well, everybody heard the story of what I was doing.
	And I was surprising her with a new sheepa doodle puppy and everything.
	And everybody should know.
	And I sent you a video.
	This puppy is en route from California right now.
	And after we get through recording, Yana and I are going to the airport to pick up Little Cammy, C-A-M-I.
	We are, we're really, really excited about that.
	But yeah, man, it's just, Ken, you don't need to write a video about Little Cammy coming.
	Thank you for the blessing that you gave us for how we met.
	But, you know, it's just you have done such amazing things, Mike, to be able to expose people to the technologies that are out there that can actually fuel our entrepreneurial spirits.
	And, you know, whether it's Suno or now being able to write a book, the research that you allow us to do based upon the good, beautiful, and true, you know, instead of just what the pharmaceutical industry wants most people's Lord and Savior GPT to regurgitate.
The Power of Not Knowing 00:04:28
	So let me mention, I'll show my screen.
	We now have 21,000 books that have been published.
	They're all free.
	And they're here at brightlearn.ai.
	And since last week, we've added brightanswers.ai, which is our new AI engine, and brightnews.ai, which is news, trends, and analysis using our AI engine.
	So these three are all free.
	They're all decentralized.
	And the best thing about our books is you can write books about any topics you want.
	I mean, look at the power of not knowing.
	That actually sounds like a good fit for our show today.
	The power of not knowing.
	That's true.
	Look, The Seven Vials, Echoes of the Forgotten Deluge, Timeless Truths, Geranium, The Nat Okinaise Revolution, The Survival Fisherman's Handbook, Fractured Legacy, Adamantine Particles.
	Is that what is that?
	Anyway, it just goes on and on.
	And there's 21,000 of these books, and they're all available for free.
	And Todd, we're just about to start launching free full-length audio books.
	Now, I know you love to listen to audiobooks.
	And what I'm struggling with right now, I'm going to need your help.
	I'm struggling with creating audiobooks that don't sound like boring, monotonous audiobooks.
	So I'm working with a text-to-speech engine, which allows us to have emotional control over the voice.
	Love it.
	And we're doing a paragraph-by-paragraph classification prompt to try to find out what's the dominant emotion for this paragraph or the next paragraph.
	And as I put that together, I'm going to send you a sample and please do.
	Please do.
	Yeah.
	You know, the books that I listen to that I love most are the ones to where there's not he said, she said.
	You know, it's just you have two voices that are talking to each other, you know, so there's no need.
	Now, I'm waiting.
	You mean like characters performing character parts?
	Yes, except I know that your engine is more, how would you describe it?
	More instructional books or knowledge books.
	They're not really.
	Yeah, so it wouldn't be as relevant there.
	But I do definitely like having a nice voice in my head that's not one that sounds like a robot.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And this is going to be the challenge.
	But I guess the answer should we, we should clone your wife's voice for all the audio folks.
	Yeah, really.
	I mean, she's got talent.
	She's got the best talent.
	That is funny.
	I bet you there is the technology out there where she can read a book and 11 labs will do that.
	Yeah.
	What's that?
	11 labs.
	There's also another company called Replicate AI.
	Okay.
	You can clone voices.
	But then again, not all the listeners want a sort of Russian accent for the books.
	But it's a big struggle to try to get audio books to be pleasant to listen to when they're AI generated.
	But we'll figure it out.
	Oh, I know you'll figure it out.
	That's what you do.
	We'll do our best.
	Yeah.
	It's coming and you'll probably do it by midnight tomorrow.
	No, no, this is going to take some time.
	This is a real challenge.
	Anyway, we'll get there.
	And I can't wait for the AI avatar to try to pronounce all the numbers in a table.
	Oh, right.
	Yeah.
	It's going to get to a table.
	It's just going to start reading column names and numbers, numbers.
	They're like, what?
	Why is it reading the whole table?
	Because it's in the chapter, you know, because it's AI.
	It's going to read it.
	That's funny.
	So we have to have like table skipping logic.
	Right.
	Right.
	Sir, shall I shoot you now or would you like to press pass?
	Yeah.
	Over the table.
	We have an upcoming case.
	Well, anyway, speaking of important technology, you know, of course, there's also a technology to protect more of what you earn.
People Educated About Offerings 00:04:26
	Now, Trump was talking about he's going to have, I don't know, he's talking about maybe ending the federal income tax.
	I think that's just hyperbole.
	I don't think they're going to end it, but there's a better option.
	Instead of waiting around for Trump to end the federal income tax, there's a way you can do something starting right now to keep more of what you earn.
	And that's what you bring to the table.
	So I'll bring up your website.
	You want to tell our listeners what this is?
	Yeah.
	Well, first of all, what I would invite people to do is go to your broadcast, Mike, from January 2nd and just listen to it because you talk about the tax revolt.
	And the people who listened to that responded.
	Ever since then, I've had well over 60 private consultations because in that broadcast, you basically said, you know, just stopping filing as a revolt, bad idea.
	There is a better way.
	And you teed up my575e.com and my helping people acquire these unincorporated nonprofit associations and keeping more of what they earn, protecting their assets and decreasing their personal liability.
	And you made a comment in there that, hey, guys, you know, listen to this, study the website, and then by all means, just simply book a one-on-one converse consultation with Todd.
	And if people move forward with the UNA, and most do, frankly, Mike, then you get the 150 back, the consultation feedback.
	The only reason why I charge it is because when I didn't, people didn't show up.
	So the 150 remedied that with a little bit of skin in the game.
	But it allows me to speak to so many amazing people.
	And I will help you.
	I will help you identify based on your own operating reality if there are use cases, one use case, multiple use cases to where UNA may benefit you.
	But, you know, it's just, it's just been a whirlwind the last two weeks, Mike.
	So thank you for stirring up the souls of many.
	Again, you're making a huge difference.
	Well, we're all doing it together.
	You and I and our audience, who are truly amazing people along the way, we do all this together.
	But I do advocate that people educate themselves about what you're offering at your website.
	So that website is my575e.com with just the caveat that probably if you have a conventional accountant or tax attorney, they will have never heard of this.
	Right.
	Right.
	But that's fine.
	Like your doctor's never heard of cancer cures either.
	Yeah.
	I like to tell people just like they don't teach nutrition in medical school.
	They don't teach UNAs in accounting or law school.
	That is absolutely true.
	And that's okay.
	That's okay.
	But that's all part of the learning process.
	And when you hit let's go on the landing page and put in your name and email address, then please, please, there's a video right there.
	Everything is free to learn.
	It's a 90-minute video interview of Dennis Gray, who has been helping people for 38 years.
	He's an 82-year-old gentleman who is like the youngest 82-year-old I've ever met.
	He's amazing.
	He was a great interview, and you can listen to it and then download the PDF that we have right there, multiple-page PDF, and follow along because the interview pretty much follows that PDF.
	And then many people just say, this is good.
	This is Gucci.
	And they'll move forward and place an order right there in the site.
	Scroll down from the video and you'll be, it's self-evident where to place an order.
	But a lot of people want to have that one-on-one consultation.
	And I really enjoy those, Mike.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	I'm sure some really fascinating people.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Yeah.
	Like I remember the, I vividly remember the consultation I had probably a year ago with Ken Cartier.
Silver Hits $92 Per Ounce 00:05:47
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	And I learned that he was a musician back then.
	And I remember he was, that was just when you started really talking about the Suno and you were launching your first songs and everything.
	And it's just amazing what a year makes, you know, and now this guy turning around songs that are so beautiful and amazing.
	It's just awesome.
	Now, and this year, and we love our fans for all the things they contribute.
	This is going to be a great year together.
	Folks, you're going to enjoy a lot of shows with us.
	This year, silver has hit $92 per ounce.
	I've predicted it's going to hit $100 this year, but I made that prediction when it was much lower than $90.
	So probably it'll hit $100 within a couple of weeks or something.
	But I want to mention, our gold and silver sponsor for this show is found at rangerdeals.com.
	It's right here.
	It's battalion metals.
	You can click on that or you can go to metalswithmike.com.
	And I just had a guest on for another interview, Dale Whitaker, who's a whistleblower.
	He's blowing the whistle on these gold and silver retail companies that he says are committing fraud and they are taking the life savings of the people they target who are older Christian conservatives.
	Yep.
	And some pretty famous influencers and some famous company names.
	I'm not going to mention them here, but Dale Whitaker has thousands of victims who have been taken.
	They've paid sometimes three or four times more than what the gold is worth.
	And I want to assure, yeah, I mean, like they should have had, you know, 100 ounces and they ended up with only 25.
	Jeez.
	And then the money's gone.
	You know, this is happening.
	So I want you to understand, if you want to buy gold and silver and it's still, I think, the best way to convert fiat currency to something that holds value, make sure you do it through a trusted source.
	And for us, that's Battalion Metals because we've worked with them for many, many years.
	And you have too, Todd.
	And there is a discount code.
	You can use Ranger if you order on their website.
	And then they waive the shipping insurance fee.
	And then they know the sale came from us because they're our sponsor.
	So go to metalswithmike.com or you can go to RangerDeals and you can see all the different special affiliate deals we have with different providers on that website.
	So check it out and, you know, be safe, everybody.
	This is going to be a wild year.
	It is.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	You know, Mike, speaking of nice voice, my wife, we have made the decision.
	We met and we made the decision that we are going to literally every month, dollar cost average.
	We don't care what the price is from here through the end of the year.
	Just that is our commitment.
	And I'm really excited about it.
	And self-custody, as far as I'm concerned, is where it's at, Mike.
	Yeah, and you're talking about into metals.
	Yes, I'm sorry.
	Yes, into metals.
	Are you doing more gold or silver?
	I'm curious.
	I'm currently right now doing 80-20 silver gold.
	Ounces or dollars?
	Into from a dollar standpoint.
	From a dollar standpoint.
	Yeah.
	Oh, oh.
	So you're going to have a lot of silver silver compared to that.
	Well, it's because the last interview we did in 2025 with Andy Sheckman, I did the research and I'm like, there's just no supply for the industrial demand.
	That's true.
	So to me, I'm just like, this is all math.
	I mean, it's crazy.
	I think this is the year to, you know, buy silver.
	And gold is nice, nice to have, but I think silver is a have-to-have.
	Yes.
	Well, the last time I bought silver, it was $30.
	It's crazy.
	But I bought a lot at $30.
	And so I feel happy about the fact that it's tripled.
	Right.
	But it just goes to show you to our audience: if you pay attention to the show, if you follow what we teach, you're going to be better off.
	I mean, period.
	Think about it, Mike.
	Think about how much glue you can now afford to buy to repair your shoes.
	And I still haven't.
	I still haven't repaired that flip-flop shoe I'm wearing.
	You know, when I come out in May, I am absolutely bringing as a gift some glue.
	You know, there's something called Shu Gu, which is the best glue for Shu.
	Shoo Gu.
	Shoo Gu.
	Yeah.
	Sponsored by Dr. Fu Coff.
	Shoo Gu from Fu Coff.
	Well, it's better than, you know, FOMO for crypto or whatever.
	Right.
	Oh, my God.
	Okay.
	Well, let's wrap it up here because I think that our audience had a great time today.
	We had great guests and we put in some good information.
	So, Todd, thank you for joining me today.
	It's been a pleasure.
	Thank you, Mike.
	And thank you for our wonderful guests today.
	And thank you, everyone watching.
	We can do it without you.
	Yeah.
	Thank you for your support.
	And check out all the other episodes at decentralize.tv and use all of our AI tools as well.
	They're all free, like brightlearn.ai, brightanswors.ai, etc.
	And did you know that every episode of decentralized TV is actually built into the engines, the AI engines?
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Chapters

00:00:10 Dioxin Testing Challenges
00:15:41 Dioxins And Their Impact
00:26:19 Regrets Buying Gold?
00:32:22 Grid Down Event
00:41:22 How to Stay Warm
00:56:25 Streams Jan 31st
01:01:29 Neighborhood Heavy Machines Cost
01:03:40 Exceptional Decentralized TV Episode
01:07:14 Mass Prescribing of SSRIs
01:22:47 Psychosomatic Pills and Placebos
01:37:50 Tapering Into Drift
01:53:08 Awakening Intuition
02:08:15 Waking Up From Propaganda
02:13:48 A Quiz About Consumer Society
02:17:42 Suppressing Fear
02:23:28 Sharing Gems From the Show
02:29:54 The Power of Not Knowing
02:34:08 People Educated About Offerings
02:38:19 Silver Hits $92 Per Ounce
02:43:52 Highly Bioavailable Iodine