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Nov. 26, 2025 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Gary Heavin: The 2026 Economic Reckoning & The AI Disruption Wave
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There are approximately 100 million American families.
You know, 330 million Americans, the average family and so forth.
So you've got 100 million American families that are supposed to somehow repay $100 trillion in debt.
Now, that happens to be $1 million per family.
Per family.
Yes.
And the average family in America today earns $52,000 and they're barely getting by.
So where is the money going to come from to pay off this debt?
The question I think is, is it a product of just terrible leadership in our country?
Or is there a design behind it?
Welcome to today's interview here on BrightTown.com.
I am joined again by an incredible person, Gary Haven, who's a friend and a great patriot and a supporter of so much freedom for America.
Today we're talking about the economic situation in 2026 and beyond.
Welcome back to the show, Gary.
Thank you, Mike.
Glad to be here.
It's always great to have you here.
Now, the economic outlook for many nations right now is pretty grim.
Germany, for example, is suffering an industrial collapse due to loss of energy from Russia.
The vast majority of German cities and towns are bankrupt.
France and the U.K. suffering similar things.
The United States may be experiencing an attempted reindustrialization because of Trump inviting a lot of external money to come in to build data centers, largely, but microchip manufacturing, things like that.
However, other sectors of the U.S. economy are not looking that great at the moment.
The debt to GDP ratio is still about almost 130% in the U.S., not as bad as Japan with 230%.
But China's also got a debt problem as well.
So can you give us your big picture outlook about where we are economically, both domestically and then in terms of global geopolitics?
Yeah, you know, Mike, it's funny.
Back in, I think it was 2008, I was with George W. Bush.
I took him to Haiti on my aircraft along with his director of the budget management.
And remember, this is 2008.
I think we were in debt as a nation at about $8 trillion or something like that.
That sounds right.
And I asked the president, what do you think about this debt?
And both he and his director of the Office of Management Budget said almost simultaneously, it's unsustainable.
That was $30 trillion.
That was $30 trillion ago.
So we're at a point right now where, and I like to do the math on this.
So, you know, we're talking about $38 trillion in debt, but we also have unfunded liabilities.
For example, Medicare and then the Social Security system, trillions of dollars that is owed, but not counted on the books.
Then we have federal pensions and a variety of things.
Interest on the debt.
What's that?
Interest on the debt.
Yeah.
I mean, it easily over very conservatively $100 trillion.
Yes.
So there are approximately 100 million American families, you know, 330 million Americans, the average family and so forth.
So you've got 100 million American families that are supposed to somehow repay $100 trillion in debt.
Now, that happens to be $1 million per family.
Per family.
Yes.
And the average family in America today earns $52,000 and they're barely getting by.
So where is the money going to come from to pay off this debt?
And of course, you have interest on the debt right now.
This year, I believe, we're at about $1.6 trillion of about a $6 trillion income that the government has.
And of course, we're borrowing money to pay the debt.
That looks like a lot of households.
When a household has to borrow money to pay the minimum on the credit cards, which is what we're looking at here, you've got disaster on your hands.
And that's whether it's a family or whether it's a nation.
So it clearly is unsustainable.
The question I think is: is it a product of just terrible leadership in our country?
Well, a lot of it is.
There's no question about that.
Or is there a design behind it?
And you know, you've seen the book, The Great Taking, where things have been put in place, either through regulation or through laws, where we don't actually own our stock anymore.
And those people that are listening, they have a 401k and you're feeling pretty good about it.
Well, show me the stock certificates in your 401k that are issued in your name.
It's not in your name.
Yeah.
You know, they quit doing that when the internet came along a number of years ago.
They blamed it on paperwork.
But in reality, we don't own our stocks.
We have been given a right to those stocks.
You know, we can buy and sell, and that's good as long as things stay solvent.
But at some point, the chickens are going to come home to roost, where the government can no longer borrow enough to pay the debt and continue to borrow.
And I believe that the people that are behind the curtain, the people that control the central banks, which, by the way, the Rothschild family controls all the central banks of the world, they're so far more wealthier than Elon Musk.
You can't even imagine.
Well, in 1929, when the stock market crashed, for much the same reason, by the way, you could borrow margin loans to buy stock with 10% down, and the central bank had loosened money and liquidity was out there.
But then, literally, in one day, they told the banks in the country they could no longer make margin loans and that all marginal loans had to be collected immediately.
That's what caused the crash.
And it's what caused the depression.
But there were people that knew in advance when it was going to happen.
The Kennedys, for example, Joseph Kennedy.
Well, those people knew when it was going to crash, were able to sell out at top dollar and then come back later and buy pennies on the dollar.
And what's going on behind the scene, where there's COVID or whatever right now, the elite, the globalists, have an agenda that requires three things.
They want to absolutely control us.
And number two, they want a massive transference of wealth from us to them.
And number three, they want a controllable or sustainable population.
And that means they want fewer of us.
And so COVID was a great example of that.
They had us wearing diapers on our faces and we couldn't go to church.
And one-third of all small businesses in America went out of business while the big box stores kept open.
And they're all owned by BlackRock State Street and Vanguard and the Jewish mafia out there who got massively wealthy off the backs of the average American.
And of course, when you control the media, you can control the message, the narrative, which they're masters at.
That's why waking up is so important.
But they've got us in a trap now where the only exit is bankruptcy in our country, the destruction of the dollar.
You know, the U.S. dollar has lost 10% of its value against world currencies this year.
And what's particularly interesting, you mentioned Japan.
By the way, I've been in Japan 25 times.
My former company has 2,000 locations in Japan.
Half of all gyms in Japan are curves.
So I know the culture.
I know the economy really well.
And their debt to GDP ratio, as you said, is about 250%.
It's massive.
Interesting side note.
And then they just announced new stimulus of, I think, $153 billion equivalent, right?
Massive stimulus.
And for the first time in a decade, they began to pay interest on Japanese bonds, which is the carry trade.
That's exactly right.
Boom, dominoes falling globally.
And, you know, we had a really tough week in the stock market last week, right after they announced that the people that have borrowed yen at 0% interest, and they came over here and converted them into dollars and bought stocks or treasuries even.
Or treasuries.
Yeah.
They suddenly, that margin they were making off of U.S. Treasuries by borrowing zero interest lines in yen, Japan decides to start charging an interest rate.
That's about 1.5%.
And that margin just closed.
And this explains a lot of the crypto problems right now, too.
I noticed today.
It's going to be massive unraveling of a lot of positions.
I think it was $88,000 today for Bitcoin.
And so all of that now is unraveling.
And then, of course, you have the sanctions war and the bricks that have been put in place to protect other countries against U.S. assault and hegemony that's going on out there.
So you have a lot of things that are being put in place to bring this country down economically.
And there's really not much that we're going to be able to do about it as a voting citizen.
The real key is what can we do about it as individuals?
How can we do wealth preservation?
Okay, that is a great topic to focus on.
But let me bring in a couple other things before we get to the practical items, which is the outlook.
You know, I laugh when people or institutions purchase 10-year treasuries thinking that they know what's going to be in 10 years because of the disruptive power of AI technology, machine cognition right now, just because of recent improvements from Google, Gemini, and Anthropic and Grok and others.
Plus, China is very strong in this area with DeepSeq and Alibaba, et cetera, Quinn.
In 2026, I'm anticipating the displacement of millions of office jobs, white-collar jobs, primarily in areas like customer service and sales service, where 80% replacement rates are achievable today with today's technology.
That'll be 90% six months from now, if not higher.
Those job displacements are going to be massive and they will accelerate.
And I don't see anybody in Washington, D.C. that's calculating any of this into their equations at all, or even with central banks.
They're not calculating this.
And I'm almost done with my question.
Sorry.
Eventually, Trump is going to have to approve a universal basic income, it seems, because of UBI.
So many Americans will have lost job prospects, at least in the short term, because their skill set is now obsolete.
And Amazon announced it's going to replace 600,000 warehouse workers over the next several years.
And they already let go 30,000 this year, according to reports.
So when we start printing a trillion dollars a month to hand out to people who lost their jobs, then that puts us, we're going to be at $50 trillion in debt before the next presidential election.
You know, I mean, how does that sustain?
Yeah, you know, you actually, there's a couple of questions in there.
Yeah.
One is, is printing money devalues of the dollar?
It's just standard economic principle.
And they're doing massive amounts of it now.
They've been doing it for a number of years.
And the dollar, as you know, what we could buy in 1970 is, I think the dollar in 1970 is worth a few pennies today or something like that.
You're right.
I think it's a 96% loss of purchasing power, something like that.
So we're going to continue to see that, which means there's going to be a new dollar, and it's probably going to be digital.
And universal basic income is probably going to become a necessity.
You know, we kind of have it right now.
You know, when 42 million people are on food stamps, we're well on our way there.
You know, it kind of goes back to the globalist thing, control, transfer of wealth, and a sustainable population.
And let me tell you what, when you're showing up to get your universal basic income, which is barely enough to get by on, and you have to behave to get it, and we've seen that modeled through the Chinese social credit score, which, by the way, a lot of the globalists that have spoken about it, they talk about the new global government being based on the Chinese model.
Yes.
And so we're going to be told what we can say and do and so forth if we want to provide even minimally for our families.
That's part of what's coming.
And this is all by design.
And can I interject?
I'm sorry, but the great taking fits perfectly with this because when the banks fail, the government can come along and say, hey, we'll give you all your money back, but it's in this digital system.
And you have to agree to the terms of this, which is the social credit score combined with the CBDC.
And we'll give it to you over this time schedule.
Right.
Right.
You know, I had a worldwide business, and a good friend of mine was my master franchisee for Greece, and she lived in Cyprus.
And when the Cypriot banking system shut down those years ago, she was- I remember that, yeah.
Well, she had just sold her house for 350,000 euros and had it in a bank, and suddenly her entire life savings was frozen.
And what was interesting was how they handled it.
That was a bail-in.
It was.
It was the first trial for bail-in.
And I actually got to experience it with her.
I was on the phone with her almost daily.
Here's what they did at first.
They said, we're going to give everybody 10% of what they had on deposit.
But here's what was interesting.
90% of the people had less, they had $5,000 or Euros in the bank.
That was it.
And only 5% had any substantial amount of money to bank, much like it is here, right?
And the problem was when they announced that, because it affected the 95% that we're going to lose a little of something, they went to the streets.
The masses rose up.
So then they said, oh, wait a minute, we're going to rethink this.
And then they came back and they left the 95% alone, which really didn't have any money.
And they literally took almost everything from the 5% that were productive citizens.
And that was their test.
And I got to see it firsthand in that experience.
And I remember the narratives around that is that we're going to punish the Russian money launderers.
Yeah.
But that's not who the customers were.
I mean, maybe there were some like that, but that's not the woman you knew.
No.
And, you know, even in the U.S. right now, you know, they have all of these ways to watch us and to track our, make us report and to track things.
You know, if you go into the bank and you withdraw $5,000 out of your account, you go the next day and withdraw $5,000 and you don't report it, you've just committed a felony.
People know that you can't take $10,000 out at once.
But if you take it out over a couple of days, structuring.
Structuring.
Exactly.
And so they have, and they blame it on drug money and a variety of other things, people not paying their taxes and so forth.
Yeah, we are no longer citizens in this country.
We're subjects.
And boy, if you think it's bad now, wait till there's a crash.
Wait till the Great Taking acquires the ownership in all of your stocks because they're the fiduciary that hold it.
And if your audience hasn't read the Great Taking, Google it.
It's a free book.
It's about 100 pages.
And if you've got a 401k or you've got money in the stock market, it's going to blow you away.
We interviewed the author.
Oh, did you really?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Everybody needs to know that.
That's a story I tell on a frequent basis.
Anytime I'm with somebody prominent.
Well, and that's because people don't understand counterparty risk.
They really do not understand that.
Whereas the gold and silver people understand self-custody is the answer.
Even a lot of the crypto people understand Bitcoin in your own self-custody, that counts.
Bitcoin ETFs held by some other institution, that's not real.
That doesn't count.
Counterparty risk.
Yep.
Yeah.
If you can't touch it, you don't own it.
Right.
That's right.
And, you know, it's funny.
Maybe 5% of people in America own any kind of metals.
That's extraordinary to me.
When metals are the only real money and currency is not money by definition because it's not a store of value.
No, no, it's called fiat for a reason.
Right.
Right.
So what does this mean then for where this country goes?
Because I am certain, Gary, I am certain that AI is going to replace millions of jobs next year alone.
And as you know, I was showing you one of my AI projects.
I'm an AI developer.
I see behind the scenes, and I talk to frontier model developers, and I have for two years.
There's no question that AI can now do for some jobs, 90% of what humans can do.
For other jobs, it might only be 50%.
I'm talking about white-collar jobs.
So as soon as company owners realize this, they're going to automate.
And even if they don't fire the human workers, they're going to augment them with AI to where they won't hire other humans as they scale up, right?
I mean, with your business, the business that you founded and ran for so many years so successfully, if you could have one human with 10 AI agents to handle customer service emails with better quality, with no complaints, nobody sick, nobody taking holidays, but better customer service for your customers, wouldn't you augment the human worker with AI?
Absolutely.
Yes, and you wouldn't do it because of a moral concern.
You would do it to be competitive.
Exactly.
Because if you didn't do it, somebody else would take your market share.
Yep.
And that's the reality of the marketplace, right?
Exactly.
Yeah, you know, there's some good news in the midst of this.
In fact, there's a lot of good news.
Let's kind of talk about that for a minute.
Do you know that there were more millionaires made in America during the Great Depression than at any other period in history?
I didn't know that.
That's interesting.
Because of disruption.
And we're about to have disruption with AI as it goes through our industries.
And those people that are thinking and that are discovering and innovating are going to figure out ways that AI can be used as a tool to add value to their circumstances.
That's right.
And I happen to be talking to somebody, but you can't talk about it today because you can't announce it yet.
No, that's okay.
But I get exactly what you're saying.
You're absolutely right.
And actually, I have the same conclusion that for every person who loses a job to AI, that actually can free humanity from the drudgery of low-cognition jobs.
And through retraining, which is now free, because you can learn any skill you want at zero cost by using free AI agents, you can get an MBA education from AI.
And let me say this, Gary.
Every employer in America, the corporate employers now, well, I can't say every, but most, they no longer emphasize what degree you have.
They emphasize whether you know how to use AI in your job.
If you come in with a resume, like, I know how to use AI, I know how to semi-automate this job, you're hired.
And you can teach that.
I mean, you can have AI teach you that at home at no cost.
So there's no barrier to upgrading your job skills right now.
Yes.
No barrier.
The only barrier is the barrier that people put on themselves.
And you know what?
That applies to really everything in life.
This is going to be a fantastic opportunity for thinking people that are willing to adapt and willing to take the tool and embrace it rather than be afraid of it.
But it's going to be disruptive.
And I agree with you.
For sure.
I think we're going to see a basic universal income.
And as I mentioned, I think we already have that, you know, with 42 million people on food stamps.
By the way, the amount of money, the average amount of money that a person gets for their family on food stamps is about $250.
That doesn't feed your family.
Yeah, that's amazing.
But that's what we're going to find with universal basic income when it becomes a reality.
It's going to be barely enough to survive.
After all, they don't want us to eat meat, right?
That's true.
They've let us know that.
No, they want you to be dependent on the system.
Yeah.
So it's just barely enough to survive by design.
So I think the points we're making here is don't sit back and allow yourself to be a victim of the disruption.
Right.
And there's a lot of aspects to that.
One is start prepping yourself to be a productive person in the new economy that's coming because there's going to be incredible opportunities for people.
There'll be more millionaires made in this disruption than there was during the 1930s.
But it's those people that are thinking correctly, thinking well, that have the courage and the willingness to work hard.
You know, I wasn't able to build my company because I was lazy.
No one ever accused you of being lazy, that's for sure.
Somebody asked me on an interview, you know, you built the largest fitness franchise in the world.
Do you consider yourself lucky?
Lucky?
Yeah.
And I said, well, I learned something.
The harder I work, the luckier I get.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And this disruption that you speak of right now.
And, you know, for example, I showed you a project that I'm about to roll out.
There are new opportunities that did not exist before that can be, I mean, look, I've seen ideas, I've seen prototypes of ideas that are but a shadow of what I just showed you that instantly received hundreds of millions of dollars in VC funding.
Yeah.
That were a pale shadow of it.
I mean, you can instantly add value to society in new ways because of the disruption, which is your point.
That's what you're saying.
Yeah.
And the easy way to not be left behind in this is to break your paradigm.
The new future is not going to be like the old world that we came from.
Yeah.
You know, on a side note, and I went to AI for this last night.
My son, Brandon, who you know, lives in Missouri, and we are developing a concept for a survival community.
And the housing on the survival community is the key because you can't build a McMansion in a survival community.
And what people want is something they're comfortable with, that's efficient and so forth.
So we've been looking for all different materials and things.
And I was talking to my wife about it.
When we grew up in the 1950s and 1960s, how large was the home we lived in?
They were small.
That's right.
Yeah.
But we were okay with that.
We didn't know any better, right?
Right, right.
In fact, so I asked AI that question last night.
What was the average size in square footage of the middle-class home in the 1950s?
Let me guess.
750 square feet.
A teeny bit bigger.
But not much.
800?
900, right.
Okay, okay.
And then it said, and it increased in 1960 to 1,100 square feet.
Wow.
So we basically grew up in 1,000 square foot homes.
And the families, by the way, were much larger, right?
Yes.
Shared rooms.
They had one bathroom.
Everybody shared it and so forth.
I had four siblings and we lived in the typical middle-class home in those years.
So I was watching Fox News yesterday, and they were talking about the housing crisis, right?
And the guy went straight to mortgage rates.
The problem is mortgage rates, problem mortgage rates.
So I also asked AI last night, what's the average size of homes in America today for middle-class people?
2,500 square feet.
Wow.
Yeah, I'm surprised.
With a 50-year mortgage coming.
Exactly.
That's going to solve all the problems.
And so the real answer is not the mortgage rates.
In fact, the average mortgage rate was 6% anyway, right?
All those years.
And, you know, we're at 6.5% right now.
That's not the problem.
And nobody seems to realize this.
The problem is people are trying to live in McMansions on a $52,000 budget.
So part of the design of this housing project we're going to be doing.
And by the way, Thomas Massey is working on this with me.
Cool.
He said that if he gets thrown out of office because of the APAC attack, he's going to go full-time and help us work this project.
He's got 50 patents to his name, by these brilliant.
Yeah, he is brilliant.
So we have found that a one-bedroom home in about 500 square feet can be beautiful.
In fact, we built 10 of them already.
And that's all people really need as a starter home or as a retirement home.
That's right.
Or even up to a kid or two, which is most of the market today.
So the housing project is a good example of how you use your innovation, your intelligence to look at problems and offer solutions.
And so I think we can solve the housing problem.
It's not the mortgage rates.
It's the McMansions that people are expecting.
That's the only thing on the market.
That's all the builders are building because they've not figured out a way to make money doing mass production of five, 600 square foot homes or even a thousand square foot homes.
See, that's extraordinary because the expectations of the American consumer are so high now.
And also, it's a cultural thing where everybody wants instant profits.
A lot of young people want to be instant influencers on YouTube.
And they have an expectation they want to earn $600,000 a year in their 20s on average based on surveys.
And that's actually not going to happen for the vast majority of them.
My grandparents lived in a tent following the Great Depression, worked for a company in Colorado, and the company would give you a base salary and a plot in a field with a canvas tent.
And that's how they got started in a tent, right?
In Colorado, which brutal winters there in a tent, right?
But they survived.
They made it through.
You might be shocked to hear this, but to this day, just because I don't have a lot of priority on this, I actually live in a one-bathroom structure that's less than a thousand square feet because I don't care.
Because I live on hundreds of acres, and my gym is out in a forest, by the way.
I lift kettlebells in the forest.
I mean, I just don't spend much time in the house.
Cook a meal, make a smoothie, I'm out.
I don't care.
I've got more important things to focus on.
But we have to learn to live without all the glitz and the glimmer of the fake wealth that people want to have, especially at a younger age when they haven't earned it yet.
It takes time.
Yeah.
We have to bring people back to the reality.
And that's going to be a factor in this new economy that we're coming into.
Yes.
You've got to be productive within the opportunities that are there.
And you only get that way by thinking well.
Right.
And by doing hard work, by doing the prep.
But it's going to be a huge opportunity.
Now, you know, in the meantime, debt has become something that, you know, I haven't owed anybody even a dollar since I was 35 years old, which, by the way, is 35 years ago.
If I wanted a new car, if I wanted to buy a ranch, a new jet, I've done pretty well, right?
But I paid cash for it.
I did not go to the bank and borrow it.
Nope.
And there's paperwork that way, too.
Yeah.
And you're like me, you're also debt-free.
There's so few of us that think that way.
And it's called deferring gratification, by the way.
That's right.
We have mastered the ability to defer gratification.
And that's a character attribute that we need to restore.
And, you know, I've got some family members with kids that have just graduated and got their first job and then gone and bought a $50,000 vehicle, literally buried themselves in debt.
And that's kind of the norm.
And so they get married at 21, they have a child, and now they are married to a job that they probably hate because they have to pay the mortgage and provide for everybody.
You know, deferring gratification and earning something before you begin to spend it.
Man, we've got to restore that.
That's going to be restored in these difficult times that are coming.
I agree.
You know, people are only teachable when they suffer sufficiently.
And we're about to have the greatest teaching time, certainly in our lifetimes in our country.
Very good point.
That's a great segue to the final segment I want to ask you about this, which is our purpose and the spiritual calling that we have.
Because one of the great benefits of this disruptive new technology and maybe the Reset and possibly even the collapse of our dollar currency, which is fake money.
There's the potential for things to be much better and much improved on the other side for humans to live with greater purpose, so to be free from a lot of the drudgery and a lot of the indebtedness.
But you might live in a 500-square-foot one-bedroom place and still be happier than what you are today.
So talk to us about the evolution of purpose, mission, and consciousness along this pathway.
Great.
That's a great question.
There's two questions that we have to ask ourselves.
I think they're the two greatest questions of all.
The first one is: who am I?
Now, identity has been a battlefield out there.
And it's crazy how they've run with it and caused confusion in people.
So if someone were to ask me, who are you?
How do I identify?
This is my answer.
And it's, I think, the most important questions you can ask someone.
Well, first of all, as a Christian, I believe that I am an individual who was created in the image of a loving God.
No one has ever existed like me before or will be like me afterwards.
I am unique.
This loving God, who made me in his image, made me to love him and to be loved by him.
And then the second great question is: what is your purpose?
Well, knowing who I am, I believe that my purpose is to serve this loving God, to listen to him.
He has plans to prosper me, not harm me, and to be an emissary.
I literally wear the signet ring of a creator God, and I walk in this world as his emissary, teaching people about his love and being about his business.
When I wake up every morning, the first thing I do, and you'll appreciate this when you're 70, I said, Thank you, God, for this day.
I wake up with an attitude of gratitude.
Yes.
And then the second thing I say is, what do you got for me to do?
How can I serve you today?
How can it be about your business?
And you live that.
I mean, you really work that principle daily.
Yeah, I mean, he's faithful to assign me.
And, you know, I don't drag along guilt and shame and blame because I'm not always perfect.
One thing Christians often forget to do is forgive themselves.
Jesus paid the price, man.
My job is to go into that throne room first thing in the morning boldly because Jesus paid the price for that.
And tell my loving God that I'm available for Him and His send me.
And let me tell you what, He sent me on adventures in Haiti with three of my aircraft for six weeks flying search and rescue.
We're the only rescue for these people who've been wounded with the hurricane and flying through tornadoes and, you know, North Carolina.
Yeah, North Carolina, right?
Over there too.
Under helicopter.
After Hurricane Helene.
And, you know, that's part of who he is.
The Bible says that he'll give us the desires of our heart.
Well, I love aviation.
And so for me to, you know, I flew Rand Paul, who's an ophthalmologist, to Haiti.
And we took 250 blind, elderly, desperately poor Haitians, and we removed cataracts.
Wow.
We gave 250 blind people sight.
Transformative.
I get to do that because I know who I am and I know why I am.
And so living your life out at that level, there's nothing to fear.
There's only joy and hope and purpose.
And it doesn't mean things always go the right way, but when you stumble, it's probably a learning opportunity so that when you get up, you know, Zig Ziegler, the old motivational, he was my personal friend, my personal mentor.
Oh, really?
Wow.
Talk about a, you know, and literally God put him in my life.
You know, he'd call me in the morning and stuff.
But Zig used to say, it's not how fast you run that wins the race.
It's how quickly you get up after you fall.
That's extraordinary.
And there's a quote, maybe it's Mark Twain.
He seems to have said everything, but the two most important days in your life are the day you were born and then the day you find out why.
Yeah.
And that's what you're speaking to.
And, you know, what you and I have in common is that, and this is a blessing, that we know why we're here.
And we, so there's no question in our minds when we wake up, what is our mission today?
Now, yeah, the Lord might give us different tasks or different challenges on each given day, different setbacks to work through or different opportunities, but we don't wake up and think, you know, life is pointless.
You know, like that thought is just not in my reality.
And that's a blessing.
How many antidepressants did you take today?
Yeah, right.
My whole life, that's a zero.
That's a zero for life.
I don't have time to be depressed.
No.
No.
I mean, it's extraordinary to me, but I'm glad you're speaking on this because a lot of people are losing.
See, we talked about AI replacement and jobs.
A lot of people, their identity is so tied to their job that if they lose their job and they start to think, oh my God, I've just been replaced by a machine.
I'm worthless.
I'm a worthless human.
That is, I mean, don't dwell on that.
Up your skills, up your knowledge.
Do better for your future.
And that's all up to you.
Nobody's going to come along in this realm.
No government official is going to come along and rescue you.
You got to take it upon yourself with your God-given creativity and intelligence to revolutionize your own future.
And that's our message today is to seize that moment and make your future better.
You know, I spoke last week at a senior high school in a small town.
And I talk about a tough audience, by the way.
Oh, yeah.
14 to 18 year olds.
Yeah.
I spoke the next day in Waco in front of the entire prominent citizens of the community, judges.
I had a Supreme Court, Texas Supreme Court justice on the front row.
That was nothing.
It was the high school that kept me up.
But I told these kids, and I'm going to tell your audience too, that all of you have a secret weapon.
You know, it's kind of like Batman.
You may not know it, but I'm going to tell you what it is right now.
All of you have free will.
All of you are free moral agents.
You have been given a life to live as you choose if you dare to take responsibility for who you really are.
Now, we're products of our environment, but with free will, we get to choose much of our environment.
We certainly get to choose how we react to our environment.
Yes.
You know, I had a tough childhood.
You know, I left home at 16.
I had to give blood to eat.
You know, I really wasn't given anything In terms of resources.
But I chose to take my environment.
I lied about my age and got a job in an oil field as a roughneck at 17.
No kidding.
You were a roughneck?
Yeah, and I still have all my fingers.
That's a rough job.
Oh, you're dead.
At 17, I weighed 155 pounds.
I loaded cargo ships in Longshoreman when I was 17.
In the summer in Beaumont, Texas, in the hull of a ship in a 100-degree day, throwing a 50-pound bag of flour over my shoulder, going up into the hull where there was a spot and dumping it, breathing the flour in my lungs.
I used to load UPS trucks when I was in college.
And those were 110 degrees in the summer in the Midwest, and people shipping 70-pound boxes.
But you know what?
It was a free will choice.
I was making 10 times the minimum wage of $1.10 an hour, by the way, to do that kind of work.
And I was willing to do that to pay for college and to get ahead and so forth.
It's just free will.
And, you know, I said in the earlier interview, people have to be willing to do hard work.
Yeah.
Right.
But, you know, work is gratifying.
And work motivates you.
You know, when I was out in the middle of the Gulf of Mexico on an oil rig, they'd fly you out, leave you for seven days, and then come back and get you.
If you worked a double, you stayed seven days, the next seven days, and another seven days.
And I mean, talk completely away from everybody and everything.
But man, I made so much money that I could afford to pay tuition and books and things.
But I remember when I was out there in the winter, it's freezing, I was muddy, and we were working with a drill pipe.
I said to myself, one day I'm going to work in air condition around women.
And I'm the founder of Curves with my life.
That's exactly what you built.
They motivated me to do what I ultimately was able to do.
You just didn't know they would all be lesbians.
I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
You know what?
You saw the South Park episode, Deb Curves, where they depicted us, but that was just a comedy.
Oh, that's just comedy.
I'm just kidding, too.
So anyway, free moral agency is a great gift we have if we realize it.
That's our secret weapon.
And if you own it, and if you know who you are, you're a child of the king of the universe who's got plans for you and purposes for you.
And that's how you define yourself.
And that's how you live your life.
The opportunities, that's certainly how I was able to not just make a fortune, but to make a difference.
See, and that's the beauty of it.
It's more important to make a difference than to make a fortune.
But it's great when you can do both because then with the fortune, you can often make a bigger difference when it's applied with principles, which is exactly what you do.
Well, another Zig Ziglar quote.
You can get anything in your life you want if you just help enough other people get what they want.
That's right.
I remember that quote.
That's exactly true.
You solve even a small problem for a billion people.
Yeah.
You become a billionaire.
Yeah.
I mean, and that's, see, that's a maturity about understanding that profit cannot be based on extraction from others in a win-lose dynamic, but rather in a win-win dynamic of helping others and then being helped yourself at the same time.
You know, a quote that I guess I made it up.
Joy is a byproduct of the good you do for others.
I like that.
You know, when I'm got, and my wife often goes with me on these missions, sitting in a helicopter beside me, North Carolina or Haiti with the aircraft, rescuing people.
At the end of the day, knowing you've literally saved lives, you've fed thousands of people.
You go to sleep that night with a smile on your face.
That's joy.
That's right.
That's how I want to live my life.
Yeah.
Amen.
And that's inspiring.
You're a great inspiration to me and to so many others who are watching.
Thank you for all that you do, Gary.
It's always a pleasure to have you here.
And you're always welcome anytime.
Thank you, Mike.
I enjoy it immensely.
And I'm standing beside you and all you do.
Well, I'm, well, thank you so much.
And I'm standing with you on what you do.
And we are, you and I and our audience and all our supporters, we are literally changing the world, making it a better place, uplifting people with knowledge and skills and with messages of inspiration, even during difficult and chaotic economic times.
We're not here preaching doom today.
We're preaching free will and adaptation.
And that's what's going to get people through.
And knowing that we are children of a God that loves all of us, no matter what race we are.
That's right.
That's right.
And knowing that makes all the difference in the world.
And the only currency that counts at the end is your currency with our Creator.
Yeah.
And that you can earn every day in what you do, every single day.
And that bank account you do take with you when you go.
Well done, my faithful servant.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Well, thank you so much, Gary.
It's an honor to have you here today.
Always a pleasure.
And thank all of you for watching.
Mike Adams here with Gary Haven at thebriteon.com studios in Texas.
God bless you all, and God bless America.
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