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	Well, welcome to Monday, November 24th, 2025.
	I'm Mike Adams.
	Thank you for joining me today.
	Hey, this is Thanksgiving week.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Do you know what that means for me?
	It means I get Thursday off not doing interviews and such.
	Instead, I get to spend all day Thursday vibe coding.
	Vibe coding.
	Yes.
	That's what I did all weekend.
	And I made such incredible progress.
	I'm going to share it with you today about our book generator because it is just rocking and rolling.
	In fact, if you want to bring up that website right now, I'll describe a few things here.
	Let me give you the actual website where the finished books appear.
	And that is books.brightlearn.ai.
	Okay.
	So it's not brighttownbooks.com anymore.
	It's brightlearn.ai with books.in front of it.
	This is where the finished books show up.
	And if you go there right now, books.brightlearn.ai, you're going to see probably four books that I created over the weekend.
	One of them is called Cancer Collapse, how the AI accelerated collapse of the cancer industrial complex will benefit the world.
	Your digital doctor.
	Another one is Awaken Your Inner Middle Finger.
	That's the one I promised.
	And then The Mirage of Power.
	That was just really a testing book.
	And there are more books coming.
	It only takes a few minutes to generate a book now using this engine.
	But anyway, bring that up.
	You can click on any of those books.
	You can read them.
	You can download the PDFs.
	But I just do want to tell you that the text of the books is not the final text.
	It's improving.
	I've actually improved the prompt.
	I'm going to be regenerating all those books.
	And well, it's more than just a prompt.
	It's a whole process.
	But I've made some major improvements on the citations and so on.
	So what you read there is kind of sort of the first draft, but more is coming.
	And then, of course, shortly, you'll be able to generate books as well.
	If you're a token holder or you are expecting to receive tokens from us, which have not been sent yet, by the way.
	They're waiting on me to give the okay.
	But as soon as you receive tokens via email, you'll be able to use those tokens to generate books, one token for one book.
	And the book generation time now, I've got it down to about four minutes.
	So every four minutes, it can spit out a whole new book.
	And when you want to generate a book, it goes into a queue.
	And if that queue is big, then it might take a while.
	If the queue is small, yeah, it's just going to be a few minutes.
	So anyway, that's coming up soon.
	I'll get to that in more detail.
	But what I found is that the text being generated in the book chapters doesn't quite match with the overall tone of the first prompt of the book.
	So I am improving that and regenerating all the text.
	And then that'll make it better for you also when you use it.
	Now, what's coming up today?
	Good stuff.
	I've got my second interview with Patrick Byrne coming up.
	Because yes, I interviewed him twice.
	The first one I already ran last week.
	The second one runs today.
	That's going to be very interesting.
	The second interview, I think, is even better than the first because we got into a lot more depth.
	And then over the weekend, I ran my interview.
	reese marrero's interview of me about robots and he put together a documentary or a little i don't know a one hour mini documentary based on my interview and some other some other information Anyway, it's called Mike Adams, I will train humanoid robots to help humanity survive the collapse.
	And I did play that yesterday, but I'm going to include it today because I know many of you only checked this Monday through Friday.
	So I'm going to put that on the end of today's broadcast in case you missed that.
	I've also got a special report on why Trump needs an AI tech advisor so that we don't fall behind on AI tech.
	And I'm not suggesting that it should be me because there's no way I'm going to Washington, D.C. I'm busy, you know.
	But it does need a tech advisor.
	So I'm going to play that report for you.
	And then let's see.
	Oh, yeah, Tuesday, what we have coming up is a new episode of Decentralized TV where Todd and I are interviewing Chris Sullivan, the manager of digital assets, you know, crypto expert, crypto investment expert, and Matt Smith, who is a co-host with Doug Casey on his podcast.
	Matt Smith lives in South America, off the grid as much as possible, and has a wealth of knowledge and information.
	So that's coming up tomorrow.
	You don't want to miss that.
	I think you'll love that episode.
	It was really great.
	Now, in terms of just finances, silver is right around $50 right now as I'm recording this, late, late Sunday night, and gold is over $4,000.
	And there's a Ukraine peace plan that's on the table, which I'm going to talk about here shortly, that if that peace plan is successful, and Trump is putting a lot of pressure, well, Trump and others, Rubio is over there pounding away trying to just read the Riot Act to Zelensky to say, look, you either accept this peace plan or you're done.
	We're going to pull out all our support if you don't accept this.
	If this peace plan goes through, what I expect is that gold and silver would drop, you know, celebrating the good news and avoiding war, or at least the idea of war, right after the peace plan acceptance is announced.
	So when that happens, or if that happens, then I will alert you to that.
	It may be a really strong buying opportunity if you want to load up on gold or silver at the time, but we'll see.
	The other possibility is that because of all the pressure from European leaders, that Zelensky will reject the peace plan.
	And if it is officially rejected, which is also, I mean, maybe this is a coin toss right now.
	Maybe it's 50-50.
	If it's rejected, gold and silver are going to spike up probably even more than what they are now.
	So I don't know which way this is going to go, but there's a lot on the table here.
	Now, Bitcoin is currently at about $87,000.
	It's, you know, that's down from $115,000.
	So it's taken quite a big correction hit.
	I have no idea which direction Bitcoin is going.
	That's really not my focus.
	But some people think it's a buying opportunity.
	Other people think that a big crash is coming.
	And there's definitely a lot of fear in the crypto markets right now.
	Frankly, there's a lot of fear in all the financial markets.
	So let's talk about this peace plan because this is probably the most important thing geopolitically that's happening right now.
	And then I'll get back to the book generator stuff a little bit later here.
	So here's the deal.
	Secretary of State Marco Rubio is there meeting with Ukrainian officials in Geneva.
	And Trump has thrown down the gauntlet and said, look, if you don't agree to our terms, I think it's a, I think it's 84 points of the peace plan.
	I haven't even read them all.
	I'm sure that like 70 out of 84 are things that Zelensky will not agree to, I'm guessing.
	But, you know, it's Trump calls it a peace plan, but I think in Ukraine, a lot of people would call it a surrender because it basically gives almost everything to Russia that Russia has been demanding, at least my understanding of it.
	Nevertheless, Trump says if Zelensky doesn't sign it or agree to it by Thanksgiving Day, Turkey Day, then the U.S. is going to permanently pull all support for Ukraine.
	You know, military, intelligence, satellite imagery, technical support, money.
	You know, oh, don't cut off the money flow, you know, because, you know, there's all these corruption scandals that are breaking all over the place in Ukraine.
	All these officials surrounding Zelensky have pocketed hundreds of millions of dollars, of course.
	They were skimming off the top.
	I mean, actually, that happens everywhere.
	That's not unique to Ukraine.
	That's just the nature of war and corruption.
	Happens in the U.S. too.
	Yeah, I mean, it's everywhere.
	But they don't want to stop the money flow.
	However, Europe, the European nations, especially the UK and France and Germany, they absolutely need war.
	They need war to continue in order to shore up their own domestic power, let's say.
	They need the boogeyman, you know, they need Russia to be the evil enemy that we have to rally against.
	This is why you have to obey your government in the UK.
	This is why you have to pay taxes.
	This is why we have to have censorship and control of the media, etc., because of Russia.
	So in the UK, they cannot stand peace.
	I should say in the UK leadership, they cannot stand peace.
	Same thing with French leadership and German leadership, etc.
	But the people, I think the people of Europe are very much ready for peace, as are the people of Russia, for that matter.
	And no doubt the people of Ukraine.
	I mean, this has been going on, my goodness, we're coming up on what, four years?
	That's insane.
	We're coming up on four years as of February of 2026.
	Yeah, that would be four freaking years.
	Unreal.
	I can't even believe it's been that long.
	Well, that's way too long.
	You know, economies have been destroyed.
	Lives have been destroyed.
	Families have been destroyed.
	And this is going to be a rough winter for people in Ukraine because of the lack of power, lack of, you know, heating supplies, etc.
	It's going to be very difficult to survive in the cities in certain areas, etc.
	It's going to be rough for Ukraine.
	I don't want to see anybody suffer.
	I want to see peace.
	But Europe does not want to see peace.
	So you can expect that the European leaders are going to do everything in their power to try to block this peace plan.
	Getting to that plan, and let me correct myself.
	It's a 28-point peace proposal, not 84 points.
	That's too many.
	That's like point inflation.
	It's only 28 points.
	But let's see.
	It says that Ukraine should withdraw from parts of the Donetsk region that it currently controls.
	Those are going to be designated as a demilitarized buffer zone and recognized as belonging to Russia.
	So in other words, Ukraine would need to give up more territory than what it has already lost.
	It would limit the size of the Ukraine military to 600,000 people, and it would demand that Ukraine agree to never join NATO and that NATO would agree to never admit Ukraine into NATO in the future.
	And there's more.
	There's more to this.
	Security guarantees for Ukraine.
	Let's see.
	Using $100 billion of frozen Russian assets to rebuild Ukraine.
	Well, then the U.S. is going to receive 50% of that money.
	It's like a giant kickback to the U.S.
	So Russia is probably not going to agree to that.
	And then Ukraine is absolutely not going to agree to giving up any territory, not even the territory it has already lost.
	That's been clear from Zelensky's mouth from the very start.
	So I don't see how this would ever be agreed upon by Zelensky.
	But maybe, maybe there's enough pressure being applied that it can make a difference.
	I'm not sure.
	So we'll just have to wait and see.
	But my guess is that Trump is kind of, you know, barking away here, but no bite, because he'll say these things, he'll make big threats to Ukraine.
	And then when the deadline comes and goes and nothing happens, he'll just make a new threat with a new deadline.
	You know, I don't think he's really going to pull support away from Ukraine on Friday.
	I very much doubt that that's going to happen.
	So that also means I think Trump is bluffing, basically.
	But we'll see.
	Maybe I'm wrong.
	We'll see.
	Okay.
	Europe is suffering economically to the extreme.
	And I'm seeing now a report out of RMX news out of Europe says almost every German city is now on the verge of bankruptcy.
	And in one German state, the North Rhine-Westphalia, only 10 out of 396 cities can present a balanced budget.
	The other 386 cities and municipalities are basically bankrupt.
	Wow.
	So the total deficit for all German cities in 2025 is 30 billion euros.
	That seems like a lot.
	Let's see.
	The mayor of Essen, Thomas Kufen, said, quote, almost every German city is now on the verge of bankruptcy.
	And he said that these alarming figures are true across the entire country.
	He says that budget freezes will now have to be imposed everywhere.
	So we're talking about extreme austerity.
	And he says, what do we want to afford and what else can we afford?
	We have to talk about what we can do so that our welfare state itself does not become a social case.
	He's talking about the financial collapse of Germany.
	Now remember when my friend Michael Jan and I were talking about that Germany is going to collapse and Western Europe is going to collapse because the industry has collapsed because, well, for a lot of reasons, but the U.S. bombing the Nord Stream pipelines was a big part of it.
	And with the collapse of German industry, you have the collapse of revenue to support the welfare state.
	Germany is a giant socialist nation.
	And it can't afford to continue to function that way.
	So what's going to happen in Germany is extreme austerity, which is the cutting of benefits, cutting of budgets, cutting of pensions, cutting of government spending, which means a very rapid deterioration of infrastructure, of maintenance, of roads and bridges, etc.
	Germany is going to collapse economically into something closer to, I don't know, Los Angeles, because a lot of U.S. cities have already semi-collapsed, like Seattle, right, or Chicago.
	So yeah, Germany is going to get a lot closer to that, but without as many guns.
	So it's like all the collapse, only half the guns.
	Yeah.
	So Germany is also spending a fortune on illegals and refugees.
	Yeah.
	So the country is spending 50 billion euros a year in social integration, housing, and benefits for refugees, otherwise known as illegals, from all over the place.
	Some from Ukraine, some from the Middle East, some from North Africa, etc.
	Coming to Germany and collecting benefits.
	So these German cities can only continue to function by issuing huge debt instruments.
	Large-scale debt is the only way that these cities are going to keep running.
	And who's going to keep buying that debt?
	Well, fewer and fewer investors.
	Right now in Germany, 63% of all welfare recipients are foreigners or have a foreign background.
	Isn't that wild?
	So the German people, their tax dollars are being spent to support mostly foreigners.
	And, you know, that's because Germany went woke.
	Just like France and the UK, etc.
	They all went woke, and this is the result.
	So, well, this will probably end up in an uprising and a revolution, a nationalist revolution in Germany, and probably in the UK as well.
	And that's why these countries want war with Russia, so they can crack down on their own domestic citizens to prevent an uprising through authoritarian wartime powers and control over their own citizens.
	So there you go.
	That sort of explains a lot right there.
	Now, what's actually happened to these European nations is they put sanctions on Russia, but the sanctions boomeranged back on the European nations.
	And these sanctions have failed.
	They failed to bring down Russia, but they have brought down these European nations.
	So, in fact, Scott Besant, let's see, he told NBC News just yesterday, he said that the EU via Brussels is now trying to introduce its 19th package of sanctions against Russia, going after banks and crypto exchanges and diplomats, Russian diplomats, and much more.
	And Besant, who is capable of his own propaganda, of course, even he's calling BS on this.
	He says, look, if the EU, if you do something 19 times in a row and it doesn't work, then that means it's not going to work.
	Basically, he's saying they're fools for trying to have another round of sanctions.
	How is this going to be any different from the previous 18 or 19 rounds, right?
	So these sanctions are just not working.
	The EU is now in desperation mode.
	The economies of European nations are collapsing, including the UK.
	They're in a state of accelerating collapse.
	They're being overrun by refugees and illegals.
	And they have virtually no military remaining that could even fight Russia.
	And what does the UK have in terms of the military?
	Nothing.
	I mean, what?
	What could they raise?
	15,000, 20,000 men, you know, max.
	And I think they already sent all their tanks, or most of them already.
	They all got destroyed by Russia.
	You know, the UK's got nothing.
	Germany doesn't have much of anything left.
	France, nothing.
	I mean, virtually nothing.
	Nothing that could stand up to Russia, which has, I mean, do we even need to go through this?
	Russia's got far more military personnel, hypersonic missiles, you know, better drones.
	It's got better technology.
	You know, I mean, on and on and on.
	Better air defense, better artillery, everything.
	You know, Russia is just dominating right now.
	So actually the best play for Europe is to hope that Zelensky signs a peace agreement and that Russia stops waging war.
	But no, the European leaders are so insane.
	Of course, they want to keep the war going.
	That's their model.
	Pretty wild times.
	And in other news, Trump posted this.
	I think he posted this on Friday.
	Do you, have you seen this video that was put out by these left-wing lawmakers that were calling for the military to refuse Trump's orders?
	Did you see that video?
	It had these members of Congress.
	It had Senator Mark Kelly of Arizona.
	You know, the former astronaut and gun control globalist, right?
	So they put out a video that said the military has to refuse illegal orders, implying that everything Trump asked them to do is illegal, which is not the case.
	I mean, granted, some things that Trump is asking them to do are clearly illegal, like, hey, murder these people in this speedboat off the coast of Venezuela without due process, you know, without due diligence.
	Like, that is illegal, actually.
	But that's not the limit of what these lawmakers are referring to.
	They're basically saying they seem to be calling for a military coup against Trump.
	Okay.
	They're calling for a military coup, at least a thinly veiled military coup.
	Okay.
	So Trump posted on Truth Social.
	He said, the traitors that told the military to disobey my orders should be in jail right now, not roaming the fake news networks trying to explain that what they said was okay.
	And he says, it wasn't and never will be.
	It was sedition at the highest level, and sedition is a major crime.
	There can be no other interpretation of what they said.
	And my response to that, now, this was in all caps.
	So you know Trump wrote it, right?
	All caps.
	Not even mixed caps, which is another Trump specialty.
	This was in all caps.
	So Trump was really energized on this one.
	So here's the thing.
	Trump's post, it sounds like somebody who has no power ranting about the treason of the Democrats.
	This is what someone would post if they're like, you know, those darn Democrats, they're all traitors, lock them up, you know.
	But that would be what you would expect to hear from a person who has no power to actually do that.
	If Trump believes that these people are engaged in sedition, why is he ranting on social media instead of just having them arrested?
	I mean, Trump's the president.
	And if he says that they're engaged in sedition at the highest level, he said, that they should be in jail, he said.
	They told the military to disobey my orders, he said.
	Why didn't Trump have them all arrested?
	See, that's my question.
	Why is Trump ranting like some guy in his basement on social media, like some powerless guy who can't do anything, who's just ranting and ranting and ranting?
	Why does Trump behave like that now when he's the president?
	I mean, who is he ranting to?
	Is he trying to convince somebody to do something?
	Because he's the guy who can do something.
	So why isn't he doing something?
	I don't know.
	I don't know the answer to that.
	I would just say that when Democrat lawmakers, or frankly, any lawmakers commit sedition or treason in America, you don't need to tweet about it.
	Just arrest them.
	Have them arrested.
	And the fact that they are not being arrested tells you that Trump's just ranting.
	And earlier last week, he said that there are six lawmakers who engaged in, quote, seditious behavior punishable by death, he said.
	Punishable by death.
	Whoa.
	So, you know, same question to Trump.
	If they're engaged in sedition, punishable by death, why aren't you arresting them?
	I don't know.
	Okay, so let's move on to some final mentioning of books.brightlearn.ai.
	So if you go to the website just brightlearn.ai, that is our book generation engine right there.
	However, you can't currently generate anything there because you need a token.
	And we haven't distributed the tokens yet.
	So actually, I have the tokens and I'm using it for all the testing and development and working on bugs and things like that.
	But soon you'll be able to generate books with tokens.
	So if you go to books.brightlearn.ai, then you'll see the books that have been generated.
	And these are the books that I've created over the weekend, or most of them over the weekend.
	You might see four.
	And not everything works perfectly yet, but you can download the PDF.
	You can read the books online.
	You can see the number of reads, the number of downloads, etc.
	However, that tracking wasn't working 100% or even any for a while.
	So I don't know if those numbers are accurate.
	It's right now, you can just click on a book and you can read it.
	You can check it out.
	You can see some of the navigation isn't working exactly correctly, but you can just sort of get the sense.
	I did a ton of work on this over the weekend, and it's very close to being ready.
	But one of the things I did that took a lot of time is I built in, I actually built out the entire infrastructure to support multiple languages so that once we launch, we can pretty easily generate like Spanish translations of the books or Chinese versions or other languages.
	And we'll be able to generate audio versions or audio books that you'll be able to download for free for certain books.
	Not all the books, but just probably the most popular books will generate audio books for you.
	And then you can download that audio free of charge.
	But the best part of this engine is when you get to generate books.
	Now, when you enter the book that you want, that you want it to generate, it could be a how-to book, you know, how to build a chicken coop or whatever, how to grow tomatoes, whatever you want, how to build a boat, you know, it's going to write that book for you, but you control the table of contents and you control the prompt and you approve the cover art, everything.
	It generates it for you, but you're the engineer of the book.
	And so you get to edit or approve the table of contents before it writes the chapters.
	You also get to choose the type of external documents that it uses for citations.
	And currently, you can choose from books or articles or interviews or podcasts.
	And currently, the podcasts are very heavily my podcasts, but it won't always be that way.
	I'm loading up other data this coming week.
	And currently the articles are predominantly natural news articles, but again, it won't always be that way.
	And the spoken word interviews are also very heavily my interviews.
	However, the books are not me.
	There's over 10,000 books in the system that it can cite from.
	So if you want to have citations for your book that are mostly other books, then when you generate a book, choose books as your citation source instead of articles or interviews or podcasts.
	Otherwise, if you choose everything, you're going to get a bunch of citations of basically me, which you may not want.
	Just another Health Ranger citation.
	Well, again, it's not always going to be that way.
	As we load up more and more content, we'll be loading up articles from many other websites and other podcasts and things like that.
	So that's just a starting point.
	That was just what was easy for me to load.
	We're going to be loading articles from, for example, Children's Health Defense and Alliance for Natural Health and GreenMedInfo and Mercola and a bunch of other website sources.
	So the citations will get more and more diverse over time as I load those up.
	I'll be doing a lot of that over the Thanksgiving holiday weekend, no doubt.
	While you're eating turkey, I'll be pushing data for indexing.
	And then as a result, probably right after Thanksgiving, we'll probably email out the tokens to everybody that gets tokens.
	That's going to be the first wave of users for this.
	And how do you get tokens?
	Well, you got tokens by shopping at our store during the Black Friday.
	You get a bunch of tokens.
	So those are coming your way if you participated in that.
	And you'll have first access to this tool, but you'll also encounter the most glitches probably that we'll be trying to work out.
	But I can't wait for you to start using this tool because I want to see what books that you come up with.
	I want to see your books, your titles, your table of contents, you know.
	And then, of course, once you generate those books, you can download them and you're free to share them.
	They are, in essence, open source books.
	And you are free to post them somewhere else or use them for whatever ethical purpose you want.
	I mean, save them on your local hard drive.
	Add them to your local library.
	That's actually the whole point here.
	I wanted to generate, ultimately, a million books.
	on every subject, a million books that are completely free that everybody can download and add to their library.
	And so if the world comes to an end or if there's a collapse or whatever, you've got all these books about how to do everything and endless reading if you want, as long as you have a device that works that you can open up PDFs, like any laptop or any mobile phone or basically any pad or iPad or electronic device or Android, anything.
	You'll be able to read all these files.
	And that's my goal to get you these.
	And it's going to take a while to generate a million books, quite a while, because currently, like I said, it's about four minutes per book.
	So let's see, according to the calculator here, that would take 2,700 plus days to generate a million books.
	So don't worry.
	We're going to be able to add parallel processing to parallel workers to this.
	So it's not going to take 2,700 days, but gives you an idea of the scope of what I have in mind here.
	I mean, why not?
	Why shouldn't we produce a million books?
	Why not?
	There's no law says we can't produce a million books and give them away for free.
	Hey, this is what we're here for.
	Spread knowledge, decentralization, everything from natural medicine and first aid and growing your own food and survival preparedness and knowledge and everything.
	So we're starting with what you see right now at books.brightlearn.ai.
	That's just the beginning.
	There's much more to come.
	And I expect to be launching this very, very soon for token holders.
	I'm guessing right around the end of the Thanksgiving holiday.
	So get ready for that.
	Should be fun.
	In the meantime, I'm going to generate more books.
	And you are free to check that out and read or download or enjoy the books I'm generating, although they may change because I'm changing the generation logic and the citations and so on.
	So they are actually very, very likely to change.
	All right, so that's about it for the main broadcast here.
	Now we're going to jump into the Patrick Byrne interview coming up.
	And then following that, we'll have the Rhys Marrero special report about using robots for human survival.
	That should be very cool.
	Oh yeah, I forgot.
	I have a special report for you here, why Trump needs an AI tech advisor.
	So we're going to play that one.
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	All right, with that said, enjoy the rest of today's show and I'll be back with you tomorrow.
	As much as I've been critical of Trump on certain things, I really do want him to succeed because I want America to succeed.
	And in this podcast, I'm going to recommend that I believe that Trump needs a tech advisor.
	And not somebody from, you know, Google, the most evil corporation in our country's history, I believe, but somebody who's actually on board with the agenda of freedom of speech, somebody who knows the values of MAGA, somebody who knows AI.
	I mean, frankly, somebody like me, but not me, because I don't have time and I don't travel to DC anyway, and I'm busy.
	But somebody like me who knows all these areas and can advise the president.
	And the reason why this is so critical, in my view, is because Trump, for all his experience and knowledge in, you know, let's say real estate and business deals and things like that, he's never been a tech person.
	And what's happening in AI right now is moving so rapidly with such extraordinary leaps that it's going to take people by surprise, even people who have a tech background.
	But for someone who doesn't have a tech background, this technology is going to leapfrog their understanding of what it is and what it's capable of doing.
	And let me give you a very specific example.
	Trump is going to be dealing with mass job replacement of humans being fired or not hired, you know, reduction in hiring and being replaced or augmented by AI in huge numbers.
	This is going to really accelerate in 2026.
	And if Trump doesn't understand the details of why this is happening, he's going to be taken by surprise.
	He's going to start wondering, like, why are the jobs numbers so bad?
	You know, why do we have to keep burying the unemployment numbers like they did with October numbers?
	Well, AI is why.
	As AI cognition becomes even more capable and very low cost, it's going to replace more human jobs.
	There's no question.
	And if I were the tech advisor to the White House, I would say, for starters, I would say, look, we need a nationwide AI retraining program.
	We need, actually, we need every professional in America that is any kind of middle manager, anybody who works a desk job, anybody that is in a corporation.
	I'm not talking about labor jobs, but the cognitive jobs, we need everybody to have access to free training and free AI tools where you can just log in as a citizen, or maybe it's just a free website.
	You don't even need to log in, where you can get training on any topic you want by just asking it.
	Or, you know, it should be a government-sponsored AI engine that's free to everybody.
	Now, my company is doing something kind of close to that.
	We're about to launch BrighteonBooks.com, which is a site where you can generate a book on any subject.
	If you can describe your subject matter, it will generate a book for you.
	It could be a how-to book.
	It could be a study book, an academic book.
	It could be a guide on health, nutrition, home repair, whatever.
	It will generate the book for you.
	It will do the research, the citations, the fact-checking, the layout, the editing, the packaging into a zip file, and then you'll be able to download the zip file and it does it free.
	Well, that should be available to everybody.
	I mean, technically our engine will be available to everybody.
	But if the whole country started using it, you know, we couldn't pay for all the tokens that everybody would be burning.
	So the reason we can keep it free is because it's just limited in scope, right?
	I mean, just being straightforward about that, we are subsidizing it so that you can have it for free.
	But at a national level, wouldn't it make sense to have, I mean, frankly, you could just have AI write a whole library of books like how to eat healthier, how to make better food choices, how to read ingredients labels, you know, how to eat to prevent cancer, you know, all kinds of books.
	And of course, we'll be generating those books and making them available to everybody for free and eventually in multiple languages too.
	But why, you know, Trump should be doing this in my view.
	I know he's got a lot on his plate, but this is something that should happen at a national level.
	And I'm willing to donate our AI model to any nation, anywhere in the world, that wants to deploy something like that to benefit your people.
	So if anybody's listening, you have ties to, you know, the Ministry of Health or whatever of any government anywhere in the world, or even at the state level.
	If you're listening and you're in state government and you want our AI engine to be available to all the people in your state, we can customize the engine for your state with your priorities, your URLs, your messages.
	We can customize it for you and have it publicly available to everybody in your state that wants to be healthier.
	I mean, we could focus on health and nutrition and food, but there could be other engines focused on job skills.
	Like how to boost your job skills, how to learn about augmenting your job with AI, communication skills, how to write more effectively, how to think more clearly, how to do anything, build better presentations or whatever, how to automate monotonous tasks in your job.
	All of these guides can be generated and made available for free to everybody.
	So this is, I think, inevitable.
	And we're going to put our technology out there for people to use and enjoy and to help empower and uplift people all over the world.
	All right, the next thing that Trump needs to pay attention to, in my opinion, is the fact that, of course, we're going to have millions of unemployed Americans because of AI.
	And there's going to be a very serious discussion about UBIs, universal basic income.
	There are going to be so many people unemployed or displaced out of their jobs because of AI improvements that you're going to see increasing calls for basically a government paid allowance that you get a few thousand dollars a month just for existing.
	A few thousand dollars a month because not everybody's going to be employable, even even skilled people, even high-level people, even many attorneys or doctors eventually will have trouble finding jobs because the machines will do a better job, and so you're going to see lots of people demanding some kind of income from the government.
	Well, what does that mean for the financial system?
	If you're just printing trillions of dollars and handing them out to people, what does that mean?
	What does it mean for elections?
	Because if you don't hand out money to people, they're going to vote against you probably.
	And the concept of a UBI is becoming increasingly popular in the context of people losing their jobs to AI.
	So I believe that whatever president wants to stay in power is going to end up pushing out some kind of a UBI.
	And it might start small, like here, everybody gets $500 a month, which is still going to cost a fortune because it's multiplied across the entire population.
	But, of course, people can't live on $500 a month, can't even pay rent, can't even buy groceries for $500 a month anymore.
	So very quickly, there will be calls to increase that to $1,000 a month and then $2,000 a month.
	And then the problem is the money printing, of course, is going to cause inflation as more money is flooded into the system.
	And then it's going to cause prices.
	I mean, well, because that's inflation, prices will go up and then people will need more money to be able to buy groceries because the food inflation keeps getting worse.
	So this is a vicious cycle where you're going to have to spend more and more and more on UBIs.
	Well, a president needs to understand this dynamic and that this is coming.
	And there's nothing you can do to stop job replacements by AI.
	And I know there are some members of Congress that are thinking about passing some kind of a law, for example, that might make it illegal to replace humans with AI.
	Well, that's not going to fly at all because you can't be competitive as a corporation on the global stage unless you have both humans and AI.
	And you need to be able to be nimble in that.
	Of course, you're going to want to use AI to augment humans, but there may be cases, especially rote jobs, data entry jobs or answering emails as a customer service agent.
	That's going to be fully automated and it should be.
	It needs to be.
	And the human that you hire should be doing something more important than that, actually.
	But if they pass a law that says you can't fire a human worker and replace them with AI, then what's going to happen is all these corporations will just stop hiring all people, realizing that they can eventually automate those jobs anyway.
	Or they'll just have contractors instead of employees.
	So it'll actually hurt hiring to pass a law like that.
	And it will harm the competitiveness of U.S. corporations in the global marketplace.
	Because you can bet that China is going to be automating with AI.
	They're doing it already.
	So you either keep up with China or you can't compete.
	Now, the other thing that's going to happen in this is that you're going to have radical collapse of the education system because what's emerging now is the fact that education, the conventional system that we've known, no longer adds much value.
	And that everything that you learned in college could be learned in far less time with an AI engine or an AI teacher that's customized to your needs, to your strengths and weaknesses and so on.
	You could complete an entire semester of college, let's say, maybe in two weeks.
	And that means that the typical four-year degree no longer holds the value that it once did, no matter where it's from, Harvard, Yale, MIT, you name it.
	It doesn't hold the same value.
	In fact, a lot of today's most successful entrepreneurs are bright young people who skipped college on purpose or they dropped out.
	And then they started their own company because they couldn't wait four years.
	Things are moving quickly with AI.
	So the entire educational system needs to be completely revamped.
	Two-year degrees and four-year degrees are essentially worthless at this point.
	And even MBAs, many graduate degrees are essentially worthless.
	And a lot of PhDs are going to be increasingly worthless because, you know, think about it.
	What is a PhD?
	Well, you have the world's best knowledge in this very specific area.
	You're the expert on this one thing.
	Well, an AI engine can be an expert on that same thing and can outthink you and outwrite you and out-research you very easily.
	So having a PhD is not such a big deal when I can carry around an AI model in my pocket that has a thousand PhDs.
	You know, you see what I'm saying?
	Oh, so you have a PhD?
	Well, that doesn't mean anything in terms of knowledge competitiveness in the world dominated by high-end machine cognition.
	You see what I'm saying?
	Just like I'm a good writer.
	I'm a great writer, actually, as I've written so many things for so long, I'm very skilled at writing.
	But am I better than AI engines at writing?
	No.
	They're better than me.
	And I'm very good at math, but I'm nowhere near the level of math that an AI engine can achieve.
	And, you know, I have a rudimentary understanding of lots of topics from, you know, let's say anthropology to chemistry to physics, whatever, but it's nothing compared to what an AI engine can know.
	And I'm talking about free open source AI engines that you can download off Hugging Face.
	You know, you can download free models that are the equivalent of a thousand PhDs.
	So this changes everything, even in terms of employment and in terms of how companies function and who they're trying to hire in order to function.
	And this is going to be very disruptive to the economy.
	And it's going to really mess with the government's numbers when it comes to unemployment or job growth and things like that.
	Because you see, AI, let's call them AI employees.
	They don't count as employees on government statistics.
	AI employees don't count.
	So when humans lose their jobs, but then AI is brought in and the company actually grows and does better because of AI, on paper, it's going to look like the company's shrinking.
	So fewer humans, more AI.
	It's going to look like an economic collapse of the company, but it's not.
	And eventually, many of these companies will end up with just a core team of humans.
	And this is several years down the road, but you might have a core team of three to five humans that are running a billion-dollar company because it's got hundreds of employees, but they're all AI agents, you see.
	Or maybe it's got a thousand employees.
	They're all AI.
	So yeah, that's coming too.
	And government statistics and economic decisions and the way the Federal Reserve operates, treasury, et cetera, they have not taken any of this into account because it's too new.
	And these old government and financial institutions, they're living in the past, obviously.
	So they're not going to understand what's happening.
	And so there could be a lot of bad economic decisions that are made based on a misunderstanding of what's happening in the economy.
	Anyway, the bottom line is Trump needs a tech advisor, and we need to do everything as a nation to get these tools out to our fellow citizens.
	And that's what I'm doing.
	I'm not waiting for the government to give me money or permission or anything.
	I'm just doing it.
	And you can find all of our tools at brightion.ai.
	Just go to that website in your browser, Brighteon.ai, and you'll have access to all of our tools completely free.
	And there's more tools coming also.
	And if the whole country knew about these tools, we would be a stronger country.
	People would be healthier, smarter, better informed, better trained, etc.
	But if the whole country knew about these tools, I would have to raise a lot more money to fund the AI engines that power them.
	So it's funny because I want to reach the whole country, but I need to do it kind of gradually so we can, you know, we can increase our revenues to fund all the AI engines.
	Anyway, I definitely encourage you to tell others about our AI engines.
	We can handle all the load right now.
	So feel free to tell others about Brighteon.ai and get up to speed yourself, gain skills in AI, do what you need to do to augment your job with AI and become as resilient as you can in our economy because we're headed for some very difficult economic times ahead.
	There's no question about that.
	And thanks for listening.
	I'm Mike Adams here of brighteon.com and naturalnews.com and brighteon.ai.
	So take care.
	I'm quite worried about AI.
	I think it's going to bring about changes far faster than we as humans have ever had a chance to adapt to technological change.
	So I think Elon is quite correct to be worried about it.
	I agree.
	You don't want to be second, though.
	So we have to invest in it.
	We have to do it with that.
	Isn't that true?
	What we know we can't have is the Bolsheviks running things as this new dawn breaks because we now know their business model is to set up authoritarian power structures and starve off or get rid of 95% of us as useless leaders.
	Welcome to today's interview here on Brighteon.com.
	We are back with Patrick Byrne, who's got just an extraordinary, well, extraordinary life and extraordinary book called Danger Close and also a film that's called The Enemy Within that was created or produced with General Michael Flynn as the key creator of it.
	And Patrick joins us in studio to talk about the book and the film.
	Thank you again, sir.
	Thank you, Michael.
	It's great to be back.
	It's great to have you here.
	Now, in our last interview, I asked, we were talking about your working with essentially the FBI at the time to set up Hillary Clinton to be bribed.
	And the question I didn't ask you then, but it's been on my mind is why did you say yes?
	Well, this is where it gets really crazy.
	So first of all, I said yes because I'm a patriotic American.
	And when Uncle Sam asked me to do things to help him, I almost always have tried to oblige him.
	Never again.
	Never.
	We have too much history between us.
	But there's eight plot twists in the book.
	And one of them is, unbeknownst to them, I had been sent to investigate them.
	So if I had literally been sent to investigate the deep state.
	And so if you're sent to investigate a mafia, you have to kind of do some unsavory things.
	And eventually you're getting asked to do unsavory things that you're going along with and doing to because your job is to be inside the mafia.
	And if you read the book, you'll discover who was it.
	And the only reason I'm not prosecuted today or haven't been prosecuted since I came out with everything is I had actually been sent and been given immunity to penetrate the deep state and do whatever I, the language in the document is I get extraordinary latitude under the laws of the United States.
	Extraordinary latitude, right?
	And did the U.S. Senate had to approve that?
	Was that?
	Senate Judiciary.
	And they showed you the letter, but you weren't allowed to have a copy.
	Correct.
	They showed me the letter.
	I've seen it.
	They have confirmed to other people that there's they call such a letter an extraordinary latitude letter.
	It's normally written if somebody comes from the Department of Agriculture to the Senate Judiciary, who really are the ultimate thing on corruption in America.
	If they come and they say, I'm a Department of Agriculture employee and there's something fishy going on, they get given a letter, an extraordinary latitude letter that says, so really it's so they can go into their office at the Department of Agriculture and steal a bunch of government documents and take it over to the Senate Judiciary.
	And they're not committing a felony because they've been, I was given this letter that or shown this letter that I was told had not been done since World War II and that it was to a civilian, not the federal employee.
	And it was a lifelong thing.
	I was commissioned by these senators who are still alive that now they're with, it's kind of funny.
	They wrote, I wish they had included in the letter in the movie the letter that they wrote back.
	They wrote back a letter saying the senators will neither confirm nor deny that there was such a meeting.
	And if there was a meeting, they will not confirm it or deny if they were there.
	And if there was a meeting and they were there, they will neither confirm nor deny if they gave a letter.
	It's the craziest letter.
	Okay, but so you saw this letter, but surely you must have realized at the time that they could disown you and claim they never wrote a letter.
	And there's no way you could prove that it's a good idea.
	Too many people know about it.
	Too many staffers.
	There's staffers who've confirmed the existence of this letter to reporters and such.
	I see.
	So I don't worry about that.
	And that would be a take back.
	As I told them, I asked them one question, and it's in the movie.
	When they asked me to do this, I said, and they let me read this extraordinary letter.
	They said, you're never going to see a letter like this again in all your life, Patrick.
	I read this letter and I said, no take backs.
	And they said, no take back.
	So I would consider it a take back.
	No takebacks.
	That's all I had to.
	And then when they said no takebacks, I said, I thought for a few seconds, I said, gentlemen, I won't let you down.
	Okay.
	Next question.
	And I don't mean any offense by this, but it needs to be asked.
	How does our audience know that you're not still working for the intelligence community?
	And that's why you're here.
	That's why you went on with Alex Jones or others that you're running something.
	You just don't know about it yet.
	Well, honest question.
	No, it's a fair question.
	It's a fair question.
	And I would describe my relationship as, well, I always, I never was what people think an informant, an asset, any of this stuff.
	I was frequently told, Patrick, you just have a unique relationship with the U.S. government.
	I've been invited in.
	A lot of it was academic, being invited into big settings and giving talks, organized PowerPoints on subjects that I had been speaking about publicly.
	Uncle Sam would want me to come in and talk to 50 people in some organization to tell them what my thoughts are about, you know, why.
	So some of it was that.
	Oh, why am I not doing it?
	Well, you can't know.
	And I don't even know how I would describe my relationship as you ever have, you probably didn't.
	You seem like a nice clear, but there was like a girlfriend once in my life, years and years, decades ago.
	And we went our different ways.
	But we always had this relationship that I know she would call me, or I call her after not talking to each other for four years.
	And she'd say, listen, I have this little thing.
	And of course, I would help her.
	And we were just like that with each other for decades.
	I would say that's more like Uncle Sam and me, where he's not going to throw me in prison.
	He's not going to put a medal on me.
	There are people who are furious at me.
	Well, one thing you can, but how can you know I'm not here?
	I don't know.
	What have I done in the last five years?
	You know, I blew my whole fortune.
	No one can believe this.
	I blew really since the Senate asked me, $150 million, since the fake election of 2020, I blew $80 million, both in the stuff you saw through we supporting that $45 million supporting all these groups standing up, all these groups, the mothers standing up to fight against LGBT ideology being shoved down their kids' throats, the sheriffs who stood the constitutional sheriffs.
	100 or 200 of these little groups, we were the venture money America Project was, and I was 90% of that.
	So why would I do that?
	So wait, wait, you were taking the fortune you had earned from the sale of the founded.
	And you mostly donated it out to groups that were on the cultural front lines?
	$45 million I spent through the America Project.
	Out of, I think, about 50 million went through there.
	And what we did was every little group starting in 2020, 2021 that was fighting back from the election integrity groups, and it's 25 grand to one and 200 to another and a million dollars to the moms for something or other who are going to do this in the election.
	So it was getting this money out so this movement could stand up very quickly.
	And that's a full-time job, by the way, just vetting groups, making sure your money's going where you want it to go.
	Right.
	And that's a huge job.
	Yeah.
	Although this was such an extreme moment in American history, it was pretty easy to tell who was in it because they were in it and who was in it just because they're lazy.
	I see.
	So that was 45.
	Then I did another 25 on Venezuela.
	What we did that is coming out, that has come out because there's a CIA guy I've been working with the last three or four years who probably is a little more vocal than he should be.
	His name's Gary Burnson.
	But have you seen any of Gary's, he's been coming out leaking stuff.
	Doesn't ring a bell.
	Anyway, there was a three-man effort to penetrate the government of Venezuela and steal its secrets.
	And it was a former CIA spy, very, I mean, great guy.
	We spent, we got on each other's nerves.
	We spent months living on top of each other in a best western in Aquagana.
	So we're not friends, really, but the country would have died had he not been involved.
	Another spy who's like a very key Latin American and myself behind the scenes and paying for everything, but actually being on the front lines.
	Actually, I probably spent more than, anyway, more on the front lines than, well, I finally left America the last two and a half years of the Biden administration.
	I essentially was gone from America.
	So I did all that.
	I wouldn't have done all that.
	I blew my whole fortune.
	I kept enough that I can live in a nice little retirement.
	I wouldn't have done that if it weren't for a reason.
	Well, I mean, that's remarkable and also brings up the question, what do you hope to achieve with your book, the film, these interviews?
	You know, time is precious.
	You could be hanging out on your ranch somewhere just having a great walk or whatever, but you're here instead.
	You're working.
	What are you working toward?
	The U.S. almost did not make its 250th anniversary, which is coming up next summer.
	We almost did not make it to it.
	And if we had not acted, I think all of us collectively in this family that we're all sort of in in the last five years, we would not have made it.
	I don't think we were even supposed to make it to the 2024 election.
	So I'm trying to derail that.
	And we're not out of the woods.
	And I'm just sticking around long enough until I can derail that.
	And then I hate politics.
	I hate politics.
	I don't like the people I meet in politics.
	I don't like anything about politics.
	I'm just here long enough until I'm sure it's derailed.
	And I thought Trump would come in, frankly.
	To be honest, I thought President Trump would come in and this would be all over in a month.
	I had no idea that he thought he was going to still play in these nice, nice roles.
	He should take the 3,000 positions he needs to fill in the federal government and fill them all with retired military who understand the constitution and start there.
	So from what you're saying, it sounds like if I could paraphrase Trump's this term of Trump is the most important pivotal term in the history of our nation as far as we know or maybe you could argue the Civil War era might be close or greater.
	But if Trump doesn't do this correctly, we could still lose our nation is what it sounds like you're.
	Well, we'll be at war because now we know what we're up against.
	Now we know.
	They thought they had all the power from 2020 forward and they took off their mask.
	Now they know what their plans are.
	First, they hate whites.
	Remember that all this stuff came out about eliminating whiteness, eliminating, we've got to abolish whiteness, whiteness, all that came out.
	They hate whites.
	They were using all the language of genocide.
	It's coming.
	They hate Christians.
	And I'm not any big Bible thumper.
	I'm a, you know, I was raised Catholic and I sort of walked away from all that when I was about 16.
	It's not, it's not, you know, I think that they hate Christians.
	That became clear over the last, look at what happened during COVID in California.
	You could go to a massage parlor.
	You could go to a bar.
	You could go to a tattoo shop.
	You could go to a cat house probably in LA or San Francisco.
	You still could, but you couldn't go to a Catholic or to a Christian church.
	So Christians, they reached out to me, frankly, after 2020 and asked me to do this.
	They were the 75 million people who understood what was happening in this country.
	So, but what's going to happen is we're not, I think that people, I was the one, actually, the FBI told me in early 2022, you know, they knew that the only reason we didn't get violent, they said, was because of me.
	I'd been out there preaching, keeping it peaceful.
	And they told me, Patrick, the enemies had a plan for everything you were going to do, every way you could have responded, except that you guys were going to keep it peaceful.
	They had no, these were some good people in the Patriots when they in the FBI say they had no plan for what to do if you kept it peaceful.
	They never thought it was going to happen.
	But next time, it's not going to happen.
	Next time, and it shouldn't happen.
	We're prepared this time.
	People should be prepared.
	We should never let a Bolshevik coup be completed in our country, no matter what has to be done.
	But Democrats right now today are talking as if they want to launch an uprising, another kind of Marxist revolution.
	We just saw the election of Mamdani in New York City.
	And a lot of that seems to be a backlash against the establishment.
	And we just saw also, notably, again, this is going to get political, but we just saw Eric Adams, the mayor of New York City, on a video in Israel saying that as mayor of New York City, I served Israel.
	And that quote got a lot of strange reactions.
	But we have the left-wing revolt potential.
	And then we have kind of what some people are describing as a civil war inside the conservative movement right now.
	You see that with, you know, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Thomas Massey, Rand Paul all being criticized by President Trump.
	How does the GOP get on the same page and defeat the Bolshevik effort here moving forward, given the current situation?
	That is what's most important.
	But we're never going to, you know, we're never going to, we don't need a party where everybody is in lockstep NPCs like the Democrats.
	There's for healthy debate.
	Trump does have a way of using judo to get himself out of different, like, you know, they were coming at him on this as this Epstein stuff.
	So now he has said, I guess, I don't know why he's, he flipped, but he said, fine, go ahead, release it.
	And now there's already stuff about Hakeem Jeffries.
	Oh, yeah.
	Did you see that?
	No, I haven't seen it.
	Well, he was in touch with Epstein.
	There's another woman, I think she's a Florida Democratic congresswoman, who turns out was asking for money.
	They were much closer to Epstein than Trump was.
	Yeah, no, I never thought Trump was a purveyor of Epstein's trafficking or any of that stuff.
	That just never made sense to me.
	But his handling of it was infuriating.
	It's like, why can't you just release it?
	Especially if there's a lot of Democrats that are named in the files.
	What if he was using that material to himself blackmail our opponents now?
	Well, good point.
	But couldn't he just say that?
	Say, no, no.
	I can't release it because we're going to prosecute people that are named in it.
	I don't know.
	I haven't been.
	I have some words.
	I'm closer to the Epstein stuff and have than so I've kind of stayed out of this hole.
	But he tried, I actually just told this story on Alex Jones.
	He tried very hard in the month or two before he got arrested in 2019 to get me to come to his island.
	He sent people to Epstein did.
	Epstein did.
	Oh, my.
	And I knew that was because I had a bunch of secrets and there were people who didn't want me to tell the secrets.
	They were trying to compromise me so they could blackmail me.
	So I did not go.
	You knew that.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	I thought about going.
	I thought it the right, ethically the right thing to do.
	You're a Christian.
	Yes.
	You tell me if this was the right ethical analysis.
	The right ethical analysis, I thought, would be to accept the invitation and go out and find a way to murder Jeffrey Epstein.
	But I heard that the CIA would be really angry if I did that.
	Sorry.
	That's what I, that's, but he, uh, he, I know what that was about.
	It's not quite, I think, what people are imagining it was about, but he's, he was not supposed to be going underage.
	He, that was on his own, but he was working for somebody, but he was not supposed to be going underage.
	Yeah.
	After 2007, I tell me if I could be incorrect.
	I think the evidence is after 2007, he did not go back under age.
	But I don't, I don't know.
	I don't know.
	A lot of details.
	But I did want to ask you then, what was the point of Pam Bondi rolling out the binders with all the influencers and saying the Epstein files?
	And then she was saying the files are on my desk and all of this.
	And then it all got swept under the rug after that.
	Did you see not long ago, somebody put a picture up of Pam Bondi's desk?
	And I think it was somebody who had access in the DOJ and took the real picture or something.
	There's a picture up of her desk, and it's just buried under a mound of documents.
	It's just buried.
	That was really table.
	It was purporting to be her actual desk that somebody got a picture of.
	If that's the case, it would explain.
	She's months behind.
	She's coming out and saying, we just discovered this.
	And other people are saying, wait, that was announced six months ago.
	She's really not in touch.
	She's a nice woman.
	She's a nice woman.
	She's not a bad woman.
	She's done some good things in her life.
	Well, I mean, Patrick, she's a television person.
	You or I could go in with a scanner and some AI engines and knock that thing out in a weekend.
	Do you think they know how to do that?
	I know somebody who worked at the Federal Reserve in maybe 07, 08, really smart woman.
	Moment I met Dancing in a club, got talking to her that was so smart.
	She turned out to be working in the Federal Reserve.
	So I knew her girlfriends, and we were talking and hired her.
	And she told me that the Federal Reserve in like 08, it was being run on, no, it was probably 05.
	They were FedExing the D.C. Federal Reserve every day floppy disks from like 1988 kind of big five and a quarter floppy disks.
	And that's how things were getting reported.
	And then those were getting fed into machines there and were being read.
	And then people were doing like copy paste of Excel spreadsheets from here to here and writing macros.
	They didn't have what you would consider, this is the government in 2005.
	It was so archaic.
	It was running like a 1978, you know.
	Wow.
	Legacy systems, galore, huh?
	Yeah.
	So they didn't have a database.
	Nothing was modernized.
	And so it's quite possible the government, you'd be shocked at how slow it is to do basic things.
	I'm dying.
	I mean, I couldn't work from government at this point, but if I did, I think it would take about a week.
	I think it would take Flynn about 24 hours to fix the military.
	Yeah, yeah, exactly.
	But that's the thing.
	I mean, people like you and I and Flynn, we are used to taking executive charge of our organizations and getting things done.
	Trump must be really frustrated, but his problem is he appoints people.
	He has these people who they face no punishment for slow walking him.
	And even when they're trying to do the right thing, they're not people.
	So I like Kash Patel.
	I met him.
	I met him, talked to him in one of the Rebel Making stuff, think he's an American hero.
	Poor fellow, I don't think he's ever run anything larger than three people.
	He's now got 42,000 people reporting to him.
	An organization can slow walk and defeat its CEO if they want to.
	Absolutely.
	And that's what I think they're doing with him.
	They've seduced him.
	They're flying him around in the FBI jet and letting him wear a flack vest and go bust down doors.
	And he's been seduced by all that stuff.
	But more importantly, he has no idea how to defeat, how to do quick change in a 43,000 person organization.
	That's a really good point.
	So that leads me to another topic I want to ask you about.
	You're a high IQ individual, pioneering in many areas of technology, including crypto with your former company, innovated a lot of things in that space.
	What do you make of the rollout of AI tech right now, which is machine cognition that's becoming increasingly capable and very low cost?
	The trend for cost reduction is remarkable, like 40x per year reduction in cognitive costs.
	What do you think this is going to do to our civilization?
	I think it's at risk of being extraordinarily dangerous.
	We certainly, the changes it's going to bring about are going to are happening so quickly.
	It's far beyond the ability of our normal political processes to engage with it and shape it and us to discuss what.
	So, you know, for example, I don't think jobs as we know them are going to exist over the next 10 years.
	I feel so bad for youngsters I see getting out of college.
	I remember, and I'm sure it was the same for you.
	You know, senior year in college, you go over to the student hall and there's all these companies lining up for interviews.
	You sign up for four or five.
	You get four or five job offers.
	Everybody, it was the simplest thing in the world.
	Now kids get out of college or high school and they work for years for no money praying for it.
	It's so tough.
	And so many jobs are going to be eliminated that I think people should be thinking, rethinking their life plans around that fact.
	People get out with a graphic arts degree.
	I kind of wish I was still running Overstock because you could AI 95% of the jobs and do better.
	That's true.
	Yeah.
	We've incorporated AI augmentation in all our jobs.
	We haven't fired any people, but we've trained them all on AI.
	So almost all the research for our articles is, of course, AI conducted.
	AI does all the editing.
	AI does the citations, everything.
	We've been able to increase productivity by 10x.
	But my question for you about the economy, though, see, during the Trump administration here, and he's got three years or more, you know, more than three years remaining, right?
	So one hopes.
	This ramp up of AI is going to hit right smack during his administration with pretty extraordinary economic consequences in terms of job replacements.
	We've already seen announcements from Amazon, some letters leaked that said they're going to replace ultimately 600,000 jobs with automation.
	That's robots, not just the agents on the software side.
	But we've also seen massive layoffs in companies like UPS, 48,000 this year, et cetera.
	And most of these companies are saying we're replacing people with AI because the investors like to hear that also.
	And then the stock goes up because they're like, oh, they're more efficient now, right?
	But what do you think this means for Trump in terms of the loss of human jobs?
	And GDP will fall because of the increased efficiency of machine cognition, producing more output for less pay, so to speak.
	I'm not sure GDP falls.
	Well, I don't mean in the aggregate, but— Okay, but maybe it's going to be— Well, I think it's going to create a headwind for him that makes it harder for standard economic reporting to look good as more and more jobs get wiped out.
	There's a solution, and Milton Friedman laid it out in 1965, and it seems especially apt today.
	The solution to everything is you do two things together, and one of them is anathema to the right, and one of them is anathema to the left.
	But you do the two of them together and something magic happens.
	You do a flat tax coupled to a UBI.
	And our current financial system is going to Chernobyl.
	Our current dollar, everything's going to Chernobyl.
	What they should be doing is designing this for the new world, a flat tax with a UBI.
	And the magic of that is you can reduce 68,000 pages of tax code and this huge Labyrinthian social safety net to you can largely reduce it to two numbers.
	Everyone gets $20,000 of UBI and we're going to tax you at 20%.
	Capital gains, income, corporate income, or whatever.
	Two very simple numbers let you together dial in any degree of progressivity you want and you can reduce, you know, we lose 2% of GDP just preparing our taxes.
	It's a $400 billion industry.
	So you can actually free up.
	But anyway, and then that's the right thing to have done anyway.
	And we ought to get that in place and introduce a second currency.
	So we run like Europe did when there was the EU and the French franc, for example, and everything was priced for a year or two in both currencies.
	If you were in France, something like that will come.
	And the new currency is designed on a sustainable platform, which is that your social safety net and your income taxes are a flat tax with a UBI.
	And you actually, you have to do, there was all this argument for it earlier.
	Now you have to do it because the benefits that are going to be brought about by AI and automation are so enormous for the labor market.
	There's no possible way we can contain with normal new rules.
	You have to share the benefits.
	And, you know, the only way to do that is to have an UBI.
	You don't want a bunch of, you don't want the current social safety net where you have government bureaucrats sort of trying to fine-tune favored groups to get what they want.
	You want a nice flat UBI and a nice flat tax.
	Yeah, the rise of AI threatens to destroy the middle class and to increase the chasm between the wealthy and the poor, to concentrate all financial resources in the hands of very few individuals.
	Flat tax, I think, would be welcome.
	But why do I would even argue, why do we need any federal income tax at the personal level?
	Because they're going to print money anyway, right?
	Yeah, well, if they believe in this modern monetary theory.
	That's my answer when I talk to the lefty believers of MMT.
	If you believe this stuff, why do we have any tax?
	Exactly.
	But at the same time, then, if you're going to offer a UBI that's meaningful, and I've also heard it described as a universal high income, where you give people enough that they never have to work.
	They can pay rent, buy food, et cetera.
	And I've also heard some maximalists from the AI space argue that robots and AI agents will produce so much abundance that the government will be able to give everybody a universal high income.
	But then my question is, why does the government need anybody around at all if you're just costing the government revenue and you're not paying taxes effectively because you're not working and contributing to GDP?
	Well, I think you've put your finger on the mystery at the heart of what we've just experienced in this world for the last five years.
	There is now a business model that has emerged where basically 5% of humanity can escape with all the learnings and benefits of 3,000 years of civilization.
	They can escape with that and they don't need the other 95%.
	And I don't think GDP even has to go down.
	But it takes AI and robotics.
	But to make that happen, they realize somewhere along the way, you have to shift to an authoritarian world before then, because as you starve off those 95% of useless eaters, as Yuval Harari calls.
	We've heard that, yes.
	Yeah.
	That they can't do anything about it.
	So you have to get to an authoritarian system so then you can then hunger games at them and starve them off.
	And then 5% of the world inherits a great place with so that's that's a real viable business model.
	In fact, I think that's what we just lived through.
	I think that's what 2020, 2020, the WF, that's what it's all about.
	By 2030, they want 95% of us gone, or they were going to get rid of 95% of us.
	And they know the whole world between AI and robotics can go on without us.
	So the trick is going to be have a political system that does not get captured by elites who are, of course, going to favor that outcome.
	And instead says, let's take these technological advances and construct things so that the people, that everybody gets a good uplift from it.
	I think you're spot on with that analysis, by the way.
	And I've spent a lot of time pondering this issue.
	But the assumption that everybody makes, or most people make, is that government wants people to be around and to stay alive.
	And I'd like your reaction to this argument.
	I've argued that government never valued humanity for humanity's sake, but rather valued the product of humans, which is the cognitive output and the labor output.
	And that was it.
	That's the only reason they ever valued human beings.
	And if both of those two outputs can be replaced by machines, then the value of humans goes to zero in the minds of the government, which is pretty much what you just said.
	Yes.
	Well, I'd say it really comes down to the most fundamental philosophical question at the core of the American experiment.
	The thing that is so unique that Frederick Douglass, I always like to quote how he pointed to certain phrases.
	And the big revolutionary thought in our founding is until now, until then, governments are rulers or the principles and humans are the agents.
	In other words, even when Machiavelli talks about a free state or a free city, he doesn't mean that the people are free.
	He means that the ruler does not report to someone else.
	It's just taken for granted that the ruler of any city-state, his ends are what matters.
	And the people, their existence is just as means for him to use as means to his end.
	The U.S. Constitution says we're going to have a system where we, the people, are the principles.
	Like when you sell your house, you're the principal.
	The guy you hire is the agent, the real estate agent.
	The principal is like the boss.
	So we're the principals, and we formed this government to just do some things we can't do ourselves.
	And there's a nice list of them in Article 1, Section 8, that we can't do as individuals or as states.
	And it's a real inversion for that corporation that we form to ever put itself in the position that it's thinking, well, what do I need you folks for?
	It's just like a plumber.
	That's why Milton Friedman critiqued that inauguration speech of John F. Kennedy, where he quoted the line about ask not what you can do, what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.
	He says that would be rejected in any society, which understood what freedom is about.
	Imagine you hired a plumber who came over and did shoddy work and asked for a lot of money for it, and you complained and your plumber said, Hey, don't ask what I can do for you.
	Ask what you can do for me.
	You'd say that plumber has got everything inverted in his mind.
	If the U.S. government is not inverted and our Constitution holds, the analysis you just described, where the government says, well, what do I need these citizens for can never occur because we're always the principles and we're making the decisions about the agent.
	However, that means we have to be very muscular on these philosophical concepts.
	And all that happened under Biden, I mean, it's been happening for decades under the assault from the left, but they've been chipping away at these very fundamental philosophical concepts.
	Look at, and you know, right down to look at how Joe Biden was just dying to sign U.S. sovereignty over to the WHO.
	He was trying to find some way to sign it over.
	I hope Barcrow.
	But I would argue that that social contract between government and its people has already, the government's defaulted on that already.
	And I think, for example, the recent lapse in the government operating with 42 million Americans needing food stamps in order to feed themselves, most of the arguments about that were we need to get the government operating again quickly so people can have food.
	It wasn't, let's teach people how to be more self-reliant.
	Let's teach people how to grow more food or to depend on themselves.
	It's always an argument now about government has to provide us health care, government, health insurance, government, air traffic controllers.
	Government is the savior in the minds of most Americans.
	Like we've lost that idea that we are the masters of the government.
	Even 10th Amendment has been, you know, just even Trump, you know, and the way he wields the powers of the federal government, clearly, you know, threatening universities with lack of funding if they don't do what he wants, et cetera.
	These are overarching demonstrations of the power of central government.
	Yeah, except we're in a unique historical moment.
	We're facing a Bolshevik revolution, and Trump has to be as muscular.
	I think Trump should be as muscular as he has to be to stop that, to defeat that Bolshevik revolution.
	And that's the fixed point.
	Now, we can debate about how muscular that should be, but the thing that's fixed is you should be as absolutely muscular.
	If it means hanging people from Golden Gate Bridge who took part in censoring American people, that's what it means.
	I would support that.
	Yeah.
	Did you know during that whole mess?
	The censorship regime.
	And you know who played a key role in it?
	And this makes me so sorry.
	Stanford.
	Stanford, I have a PhD from Stanford.
	And a bunch of Stanford, I even know some of the professors behind this.
	They set up something called the Stanford Internet Observatory.
	120 FBI and CIA officers left government and went out and staffed it.
	And they were the part of this censorship industrial complex.
	So they got direction from Biden to suppress this narrative.
	They figured out, it turns out that for any given narrative, you only have to really censor a couple dozen people.
	And you can, on any given narrative, you can just find those dozen people and stamp them out.
	And then laundered it through NGOs and whitewashed it over into tech.
	They gave the instructions to Google and Twitter, and they just followed.
	There was a woman at Google, four-year immigrant from India, Vijaya or something, not a U.S. citizen.
	She ran the control panel on what 300 million Americans could say to each other.
	So I think every Indian involved with this stuff should be sent home, even if they lose their passport.
	They get told, you failed your American experiment.
	Go home and have a good life.
	And anyone who ever swore an oath to the Constitution, that means every one of those federal officers who went out to Stanford Internet Observatory, not some silly professor who reads too much Herbert Marcuse, about, you know, but the people who ever swore an oath to the Constitution and took part in that on a clear day, hang them from the Golden Gate, take their bodies out and dump them in the Pacific because we shouldn't pollute American soil with the corpses of those people.
	That's how I feel about it.
	And that's what I would have been doing.
	But Trump has Trump is, but I'm trying to get through without something like that.
	But for anybody who swore an oath to the Constitution at any point in their lives and then who took part in this misinformation, disinformation theory that emerged, we're going to censor people.
	Anybody who took part in the medical malfeasance that happened, all the people at the top of that, they should all be.
	So here's, that's a great lead up to this danger point, which is the fact that Google, for example, a corporation that I consider to be the most evil corporation in American history, just announced Gemini 3, which is being described as the most advanced AI engine that's been produced by any U.S. company, although there's very strong competition, obviously, from China, Alibaba, DeepSeek, et cetera, Quinn, you name it.
	But this system, which has agentic, it's able to pursue long-term goal-oriented behavior through a breakdown of a number of steps and to pursue them in a redundant or robust way using agentic reasoning.
	This is a company that censored people like you and I.
	This is a company that pushed vaccine jabs that killed well over a million Americans.
	This is a company that rigged elections by selectively influencing get out to vote messages.
	This is a company that is incredibly evil to anti-American.
	And yet Trump invited the CEO to the White House for dinner.
	Yeah, okay.
	I agree with you on everything about how evil they are.
	And I don't use Google.
	I have nothing to do with that.
	I don't either.
	But Trump is a wily guy.
	And just because he invites someone to the White House, you know, he may see someone as his enemy and still have them.
	I mean, there's examples, if you go back to 2017, where Trump was plotting to do bad things to people at the same time, he has them into the White House.
	So you can't read into the fact that he's invited these people, that he's got bad intentions.
	But certainly his coddling of Pfizer and these guys.
	What's the guy?
	Borla, who's the Borla, yes.
	This is really hard to.
	Yeah, I'm afraid that the president has people within his circle who are the there are Republicans who are not with us, as you may know.
	And they're not just rhinos, but they're establishment.
	And there are people around him who are more concerned about establishment.
	They're more concerned about where their job is in three years.
	They're literally being hearing that if they help him, they're going to be hung under the next when a Democrat wins.
	So he doesn't, that's why I think he needs some people around him who didn't let this back pressure get him down.
	I feel like he needs a tech advisor close to him.
	Someone like you, actually.
	I know someone he could.
	I would not advise me.
	I'd advise I can get him the woman at Google who's the top of AI.
	And I know her.
	Well, so, and the reason I mentioned this is because I think that the rise of AI through companies like Google is actually going to make a government more and more obsolete.
	See, even you were describing how obsolete the government is in terms of its technology just a few years ago using ancient tech.
	But what's happening inside the labs in companies like Google is years ahead of anything that Trump has ever seen or could even possibly understand because that's not his focus.
	He's not a tech guy, right?
	But what's going to happen is with the rise of agentic intelligence, which again, Google is demonstrating very competently right now, you're going to have corporations that simply take over the infrastructure more and more, that are able to influence and lobby and own all the government decisions.
	I'm sorry, go ahead.
	No, no, no, I'm listening to you.
	Well, I feel like we're moving into a corporatocracy rather than an authoritarian, quote, democracy, constitutional republic.
	But the corporatocracy is going to be even more powerful because of the concentration of power due to AI.
	Could be, could be.
	I don't know who his science advisor is.
	I am quite worried about AI.
	I think it's going to bring about changes far faster than we as humans have ever had a chance to adapt to technological change.
	So I think Elon is quite correct to be worried about it.
	I agree.
	And, you know, it's one of these things where you don't want to be second, though.
	So we have to invest in it.
	We have to do it.
	Isn't that true?
	It could make life so much better.
	Life, you know, Trump may not be, Trump may be John the Baptist.
	Maybe there's someone else who's going to come and lead us to, there's a whole new age.
	What we know we can't have is the Bolsheviks running things as this new dawn breaks because we now know their business model is to set up authoritarian power structures and starve off or get rid of 95% of us as useless hedos.
	Yes.
	And to my point, Google was happy to play along with the Bolsheviks until Trump got elected.
	And they will turn back to the Bolsheviks if they get back into power.
	Yeah.
	They're just tolerating Trump now.
	They're all still Bolsheviks.
	They're terrible people.
	I used to really like them.
	I had great relations with engineers at Google.
	Oh, Google.
	I did a lot.
	I was their biggest, Overstock was their eighth biggest customer.
	I spent hundreds of millions of dollars with Google.
	I had a great relationship with the engineers.
	They turned into something.
	I would say by Google as a company around 2015 is when it started getting like to be an evil company to deal with.
	And I guess that's that may be, I think that's when they changed their motto from don't be evil to whatever it became.
	That's just, you know, be as evil as possible.
	Yeah, well, but what I see with companies like Google is just a complete lack of value for human life and human sovereignty or knowledge.
	You know, I think that the way to save human civilization is to decentralize knowledge, empower individuals with knowledge so they can make better choices and then things improve from the ground up.
	But companies like Google believe that the way to achieve massive power is to restrict access to knowledge and control from the top down.
	Right.
	It reminds me of a whole lot of them went to Stanford.
	I hate to go back to this, but I saw this develop.
	When I first was at Stanford in the late 80s, there was a program like in the great books, people, everyone learned the history, the history of our belief system of what we would call political liberalism, in the sense of we're both liberals.
	This whole, you know, the Western history, people learned.
	In the late 80s, some activists on campus in the professor class got all that junk.
	And those people, I don't want to name any names, they became very, one in particular, a woman who fought very much against me getting my doctorate because she hated what I had to say.
	She became a very important figure at Stanford and she turned it woke.
	And they set up, there's a center at Stanford on ethics called the McCoy Family Center on Ethics or something like this.
	And I think I was even a guest member of the board for a year.
	I went to two or three board meetings, say 2003, 2004.
	And I can tell you, all they were teaching was, students, if you want to be ethical, you have to be a hard-left socialist.
	That's all every single question.
	Well, if you want to be ethical, when you're a CEO someday, you have to be a hard-left socialist.
	That's what they think teaching ethics is.
	And they have ruined the campus with a bunch of woke nonsense that does not stand any scrutiny, which is why they have to suppress dissent and why they have to, even in their own campus.
	I was invited to speak at Stanford last year, and the higher same woman, I believe it was the same, well, I don't know that for sure, but the higher-ups canceled.
	I could not speak at Stanford.
	Stanford PhD.
	I was literally the DHS domestic extremist number one.
	So that may have been their hesitation.
	But you bring up a really important point in all of this, which is the radical left pushes and believes things that are provably false about the world, things that are incredibly destructive.
	For example, they always talk about decarbonization of the atmosphere, which would destroy all life on our planet.
	You're the carbon they want to reduce.
	Well, yeah.
	You were the carbon.
	But I mean, all plants use carbon for photosynthesis, right?
	So if you end carbon, you end all crops.
	And that's probably bad for humanity.
	And all the animals.
	Well, there were crops before we were spitting out carbon.
	Well, no, but if they succeed in decarbonizing the atmosphere, if they take all the carbon out.
	Yeah, they mean they want to stop us adding carbon.
	Yeah, they're not saying let's get all the carbon out.
	But yeah, they're very unscientific.
	Their science is junk science.
	How much has been revealed over and over.
	If you go back to the 19, it's about 1995 or so, the UN came out with the International Panel on Climate Change.
	And you look at that original document that set the whole thing going.
	They have a whole bunch of predictions about how the future was going to warm.
	And then you look at what happened.
	It's the most conservative 5% of their predictions is what actually happened.
	They have missed their estimates over and over and over.
	Yes.
	But it shows you, but climate science became one of the pillars of government grants through various government science programs.
	Even NIH was giving grants for climate change research.
	And all the scientists in America at the universities realized if they were going to get funded, they had to go into pro-climate change narratives.
	So we actually have years of science.
	And I know this firsthand because I have scoured the entire history of all science papers ever published in any language as part of our AI training.
	We have hundreds of terabytes of data.
	The top human thinking was in the 1970s.
	After the 1970s, the IQs dropped.
	And when it got into the loony left of climate change, science became retarded.
	Literally cognitively negative.
	Philosophy.
	Like the left-wing scientists was a penalty on cognition versus reality.
	And it's been that way for 15 years.
	It's funny you say that.
	I think of this one friend I had, a young lady I was seeing some years ago, and she was all caught up in global warming.
	And she went off, though, for a master's degree in global warming science, or so I thought.
	I thought, well, at least, or environmental science.
	Great.
	We'll be able to have more interesting discussions when she's done.
	A year later, 18 months later, I see her again.
	It turns out it was a degree in how to convince people about global warming.
	There's no science in it at all.
	It's a massive persuasion.
	It's a persuasion degree, huh?
	It's a per on how, and it was basically you learn to say what you think it's a but 97% of scientists agree.
	And what, do you think it's a conspiracy theory?
	And that she spent 18 months learning to say those two things.
	Wow.
	It's fake science.
	And, you know, there was a basically, I think elites figured out around the time of the Club of Rome that if you want a one world government, you have to scare everybody.
	And there's the things you can use to scare them is a pandemic or a global climate catastrophe or UFOs.
	I think there's even some evidence that somebody like somebody like the Club of Rome or somebody actually came to that conclusion way decades ago.
	Yeah.
	Well, maybe they're going to have climate aliens crawl out of that new three eye Atlas asteroid or something or tell us that that's what's happening because it's hard for people to confirm reality due to all the deep fakes and AI and government narratives and so on.
	I think that this three, if three eye Ajax does end up becoming part of taking a turn, you know, it's on the other side of the sun from us now.
	And we expect it as we come out to just sort of drift off and go.
	But if, for example, it takes a turn our way, be open to the possibility that we're going to be told they're evil and they're actually the good guys.
	Be open to that possibility that that's what is that.
	Hopefully we get on January, we emerge from the other side of the sun and we see it just cross its go on its way.
	But there's it is pretty crazy the thing, you know, there's so many strange things about this comet.
	There are very strange things happening.
	In the interest of time, also, I just want to mention your book and I'd like you to tell our audience what is the most surprising thing, or you could tease it, that they're going to find in your book, Danger Close, which is out now.
	And I mean, I actually, I took the whole transcript of your book and I put it into my AI and I told it to find the 20 most intriguing things.
	Oh.
	And it's quite a list, let me tell you.
	And then I read.
	It must have gone to the rape and murder.
	Did you get to the rape and murder?
	Well, actually, that was not at the top of it.
	Like the Hunter Biden laptop and many other things here.
	And, you know, Boutina and the relationship and things like that.
	But what can people find out about you and America through your book?
	You can find out that what you're living through, if my story is true, is the facts of it, you will see that what we're living through is a scheme started by John Brennan, Barack Obama.
	I think James Comey is a flunky who went along that to hijack the United States of America.
	There are people who believe our constitutional system has run its course and that we need some strong muscular government post-constitution that we're in a post-constitutional era.
	Mike Pompeo has come out and said not a single person on the seventh floor of the CIA believes in the Constitution.
	I would probably limp him with that.
	Does he believe in the Constitution?
	No.
	He's a bad guy.
	But there is among our educated elite this, they almost pay lip service.
	Guys, you should see how bad law professors are, how they give lip service to the Constitution, but they basically, their attitudes, we're much smarter than that now.
	We moderns are so much smarter.
	We've really figured out how to do things.
	So this is just this historical relic is more or less how they treat it.
	And we're in real danger of losing everything.
	But if we make it through the next couple of years, and especially the 28 election, I think we have a rebirth for the next 250 years.
	And what we just experienced was the great vaccination against tyranny, socialist tyranny.
	That what we experienced in the last five years will go down in American history as an underhanded attempt for tyranny to overthrow the United States.
	And it may end up being a vaccine for us, a good vaccine.
	Well, I would hope that as part of that vaccine that Trump would put a lot more pressure for freedom of speech to be allowed among all the tech platforms.
	We talked about censorship and censorship is still very much in place.
	Right.
	And remember, these guys, Section 230 of that, you know, 25 years ago, they all got exempt from laws on libel on the grounds that, well, we don't control the message.
	We're just like in the town square, there's a tree with a bulletin board.
	That's all Twitter is.
	So you can't sue us for libel.
	So they got that in the code.
	Well, that means you can't go out by going out and saying who can publish and who can't, unless you're just talking about like decency standards, you are becoming a publisher.
	They have effectively become a publisher by their algorithm.
	And the courts have misinterpreted Section 230 in favor of allowing censorship.
	Yeah.
	So it's a huge, you know, what we need is a Republican out of the mold of Teddy Roosevelt, the great trustbuster, because Teddy understood that the risk of giant corporations was that they could gobble up the freedoms of America just like a tyrant could, a different kind of tyranny.
	That's what we need.
	I think Trump's there.
	I think he's moving slower.
	Sometimes I get so frustrated with the people he relies on, because I feel like I could do some of these things in about eight days.
	I know the feeling.
	But I think he's actually there, and I think he thinks exactly like us.
	I think he really does.
	Well, I hope so.
	I mean, I've been critical of Trump on certain areas, but I always say that I hope he succeeds.
	I want Trump to succeed because I want America to succeed.
	I don't want to live under a socialist hellhole.
	He's got people pulling him in different directions.
	Who knows what he has pressures that people put on him.
	But I think intellectually he's with us and fighting as hard as he can.
	That's good to hear.
	Last question, the film.
	The enemy within, the enemy within.
	Michael Flynn, tell our audience about the film and where they can find it.
	It's some of the more important stories out of the book that Mike has been talking about.
	You can turn into a movie.
	General Flynn made it into the movie.
	It's the key points about involving Barack Obama and John Brennan and Comey and what I did for them.
	And it documents, which my story, by the way, if I'm lying, they could prove it in 24 hours.
	They can also, they know they all know that.
	So that's the, he made it into this movie that takes those, takes that section of the book.
	It focuses on it.
	You can find it on enemywithindocureseries.com.
	It's three parts of 45 minutes.
	And everybody who sees it says that you see all in all the reviews.
	It's like, wow, it fits the pieces together of the last 10 years in a way I had never gotten.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Then last question based on what you just said.
	You're hopeful for the future of our republic?
	Oh, yeah, much more.
	I mean, I'm very hopeful.
	I wouldn't say it's ours to lose now, but we're so much better off than we were five years ago.
	Five years ago, General Flynn and I thought we had maybe a 5% chance of surviving as a nation.
	No kidding.
	After January 20th, 2021, he thought we wouldn't make it to 2024, might not make it to 2022 as an election, given what they were doing.
	That was a complete authoritarian takeover.
	And they were hoping that we would get violent.
	And again, some senior and 06-level person at the FBI told me in early 2022, the only reason they did not win yet is because you guys kept it peaceful.
	They had no expectation you were going to keep it peaceful.
	So that was a good move on the part of your viewers because I know that we were always out pounding on that.
	Yeah, we're calling for peace.
	But if it happens, be prepared.
	And I do not, I don't want to say I rescind that advice.
	I want to keep everything as peaceable as possible, but we cannot lose this republic and any more Bolshevism.
	And that's what when these judges do this crazy stuff that we're seeing, I mean, that's a pure, people have no allegiance to the Constitution.
	Yeah, clearly.
	All right.
	Well, I'm glad you have a positive outlook on our republic.
	And there are times where I share that and other times I'm not so sure because of, you know, like currency collapse or what's happening internationally or the threat of war, you know, nuclear war, things like that.
	Do you want to comment on any of that?
	Well, we've never been closer to nuclear war in history.
	The Ukrainian war is the most undeserved war of my lifetime that I can think of off the top of my head.
	It's the most avoidable war.
	We should not start World War III over our right to pull Ukraine into NATO.
	Ukraine should be a neutral, independent company.
	NATO started this war.
	NATO started this war effectively.
	And we should be happy to get peace on any terms that, you know, if we can get Trump to, I mean, if we can get Putin to just take the, be happy with the 20% he already took and not take the whole 80.
	He wants 85%, which is the Russian Orthodox, the Orthodox.
	He doesn't care about the Polish part, which is Odessa.
	He wants Odessa.
	Clearly.
	Yeah.
	And Kiev, which is the birthplace of the Orthodox, the Russian Orthodox Church.
	So, but I think he would have been happy.
	I mean, shit, pardon me.
	He would have, he would have not done the war if we had just agreed on neutrality.
	So we got to get out of that.
	We're not going to win that.
	We're not going to go to World War III over it.
	Declare victory and quit the field.
	Agreed.
	Yeah, that makes perfect sense.
	But he's got to do, and he's got to do Venezuela.
	Venezuela is a cancer on this hemisphere, and they committed not just an act of war against the U.S., they overthrew the U.S.
	They conquered the U.S. Why doesn't he just tell us that instead of making up the story about the drugs?
	I think the American people would understand the story that you've told us.
	If he came out and did that, you know, the New York Times would be saying, ah, Donald Trump has been seduced by a bunch of crazy, wacky, disproven conspiracy theories.
	I think they ought to have a press conference.
	Who cares what the New York Times says?
	I agree.
	Does anyone read that anymore?
	I think I'd have a press conference and march out about five people I know with Venezuelan passports who are sitting somewhere, maybe not even so far from us, right here in Austin, Texas, and march them out and they can sit and tell their story and there won't be a disbeliever.
	They can prove it.
	I've seen them demonstrate this stuff.
	They can prove how it all works.
	Well, I think Trump would get a lot of support, a lot of leeway from the American people if they simply knew what he was up against and what he was doing.
	And I think people don't like to be kept in the dark.
	They don't like to be told fairy tales about what's happening when there's actually something much deeper taking place.
	But then again, maybe, you know, you and I, we're the more sophisticated, you know, we have more knowledge than a typical just mainstream consumer who isn't tuned into any of this stuff.
	So maybe they need simpler stories.
	I don't know.
	The truth, what I learned from Flynn is the truth is the best weapon.
	Truth is a wonderful weapon.
	I agree.
	So it's more powerful than army divisions, the truth.
	Yeah.
	Well, thank you, Patrick.
	It's an honor to have you here.
	Thank you, Michael.
	And congratulations on your great success with Braytheon.
	Well, thank you so much.
	We're certainly working hard for all the right reasons.
	And look, we're operating in good faith for America as well.
	We love America, and I want it to succeed.
	And we appreciate you and everything that you've done.
	You've contributed enormously to our freedom.
	So thank you so much.
	Thank you, sir.
	All right, folks, there you go.
	Patrick Byrne, be sure to check out his book, Danger Close, and then the film, which is called The Enemy Within, and that's at, is it the, is the word the in the domain name?
	No, it's uh just enemy within docu series enemy within docu series.
	Okay, we'll put it on the screen for everybody.
	But folks, be sure to check out that film created by Michael Flynn also.
	And thank you for watching, and feel free to repost this interview on other channels and platforms.
	And if you want to get a strike on YouTube, just post it on YouTube.
	They'll give you that strike in no time.
	But thank you for watching today.
	God bless America.
	Take care.
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	Hello, everybody, and welcome.
	Today I'm joined by my esteemed guest, Mike Adams.
	You know him as the HealthRanger on Brighteon.com, Natural News, you name it.
	He's the health and wellness advocate, prepper extraordinaire.
	We are here in his brand new studios here to talk about some really cool developments he's been a part of lately with AI and actually prepper robots of all things.
	So that is exactly where we're going to start because I saw him on the Jones show when I was working the Jones show a couple weeks ago.
	You were remoting in, you were his guest, and you said something that immediately caught my attention.
	You started talking about this planned facility here where you're going to train robots, humanoid robots that we see are coming out right now to be prepper robots, to be able to cook, to be able to patrol around your perimeter, do all sorts of crazy stuff.
	And I was just like, I'm sorry.
	Did I just hear the coolest thing ever?
	I'm sorry.
	Did I just hear the coolest thing ever?
	So as soon as that interview ended, I had to reach out and we've been able to connect and we're here today to talk about that.
	Many more things as well.
	I've got all the stacks in typical InfoWars fashion.
	Mike Adams, welcome to the show.
	Hey, Reese, I'm thrilled to join you today.
	Thank you for coming out to our facility.
	Yeah.
	And I'm just so enthusiastic that you love this topic.
	I do too.
	This is going to be awesome because you can see our facility.
	You see what we have here, right?
	Oh, yeah.
	Behind me is this kitchen set where we're going to test robots in the kitchen.
	And then also we have about 5,000 square feet of space that people can't see from the camera, but we're setting up stations there for robot testing and practical skills like a laundry room, a simulated garden to test carrying firewood, to test harvesting tomatoes, to test folding laundry, whatever, you know, household tasks and small farm tasks.
	That's our goal.
	Yeah, no, this is my first time ever being here.
	So I'm blown away again by not only this new studio, but yeah, this whole facility out here.
	It's a great design you've got coming up.
	I want to start with the robots and just go from the beginning.
	I talked with you earlier a little bit about Briding on AI, the origins of that, what sparked that, the need to create this unbiased, decentralized AI system.
	But what was the moment for you for these robots where you were just like, oh, no, no, next step is humanoid robots trained to be prepper robots?
	What was the moment where you're like, okay, this is my next move?
	Well, I think it's actually been pretty obvious for a long time that the amplification of human labor through autonomous robotic systems would be a breakaway moment for human civilization, but only if we can make those robots decentralized and open source and not have them function as spy machines, which is what the establishment wants.
	So if you think about what we do in our lives, mostly humans, they achieve cognition and labor, cognition and labor.
	You know, you're using your brain, you're thinking through problems, you're solving problems.
	I'm talking about in the workplace, you know, human relationships would be separate from these two categories, but you're using your brain for cognition and then you're using your muscles for labor.
	And throughout all of human history, it was these two outputs that actually built civilization.
	And it mostly started with labor, of course, in an agrarian society where your labor was a very big part of building up civilization through the production of food.
	But then the Industrial Revolution, right, began to take over labor and that allowed specialization into cognition.
	And that's where we got more universities.
	We got specialization in physics and chemistry, et cetera.
	People using their brains instead of their muscles.
	From that, then we got technology.
	And then technology brings us back around to the automation of muscle through robotics.
	And of course, the automation of cognition through AI agents.
	So I'm trying to work to help humanity survive these massive changes that are coming.
	As the globalists clearly want to exterminate billions of humans and replace them with robots and AI, I believe that we need to, instead, we need to augment ourselves and up our game.
	We've got to level up with decentralized AI and decentralized robotics.
	That's the only way for us to survive these changes.
	You can't do it just by yourself because software AI will be smarter than any human.
	It probably already is now.
	In fact, I'm certain of it.
	And soon, within a small number of years, robotics will be able to outperform most humans on most physical tasks.
	So this isn't something to reject and say, oh, I never want like the robots are the devil.
	That's not going to help you.
	You need to, in my opinion, you need to learn how to use and control this technology.
	And then people like myself, we need to innovate open source, decentralized versions of this tech.
	So that you could buy a robot from China, let's say, but you could flash it, flash its memory, and it could be a homegrown open source robot.
	You're just using the hardware from China, but it's the brains from, you know, Arizona or wherever the hacker group is that built the brains.
	That's my vision for how we make it through this.
	Okay.
	So you've painted that picture here.
	There's a couple different ways we can go with this.
	I want to stay on this about the actual application, like the actual application of these humanoid robots.
	Should you get them all trained up in the exact way you want?
	You flash them, you do everything, and it proves to be like a very successful model.
	I want to talk a little bit about like a day in the life, your perfect vision of what this would look like.
	And let's just go with like, let's have fun with it, like a total collapse scenario where this thing is like instrumental to a family's survival.
	We'll talk a little bit about that and then we'll go into kind of the big picture, almost philosophical stuff about man's relation with machines.
	And then we'll just go from there.
	But for now, walk me through what this would look like.
	It's a grid down scenario.
	A family has been able to thankfully procure one of your humanoid robots or something like it.
	It's mind wiped and replaced with all the good stuff that you would want in something like that.
	How would somebody use one of these as a tool for survival?
	Well, let me give you a definition of wealth in the future, in the near future.
	Wealth is going to be defined by how many robots you own and how many agentic AI systems you control, which means how much compute you can afford.
	So the ultra wealthy will be surrounded by a huge number of agentic AI systems that would be doing, for example, autonomous research or business development tasks.
	And they're burning tokens, which cost money.
	Not much money, by the way, because tokens are getting less and less expensive.
	But the robots will always cost something because of the minerals, the metals, the aluminum, the copper, nickel, tungsten, whatever that goes into the manufacture of other robots.
	They will always cost something.
	A poor person will have no robot.
	You will have to do everything yourself.
	That will be considered poverty.
	A middle class person would have one robot, and that one robot would help them with their tasks, like, hey, pick up the trash or take out the trash, load the dishwasher, right?
	All these monotonous tasks that we all hate to do.
	You know, for me on my farm, like, I got to clean out the chicken coop again or just collecting chicken eggs or whatever, right?
	So one robot will be able to do quite a bit at a cost of probably, let's say, eventually something like a dollar an hour in terms of the long-term cost.
	You know, so for roughly like $24 a day, you can have a robot.
	And it'll do a lot.
	It'll really help amplify your time.
	And that will free you up to do the other tasks that are more value-added, that are more important for your life.
	For example, telling your AI agents what to research or telling your 3D printer what to build and having your AI agent design a 3D CAD design to feed it to your 3D printer because, hey, I need this part for my tractor or whatever, right?
	So these are higher level tasks that people will be involved in.
	A wealthy person will have a dozen robots doing much more intricate things.
	So, a dozen robots could be doing things like growing a large amount of food for you, actually, farming or constructing things or building things that are part of your own business.
	You would be in the business of manufacturing things, let's say, or growing and harvesting things.
	Like, for example, on my ranch in Texas, I grow loblolly pine needle trees or pine trees.
	And the loblolly pines are very high in shikimic acid, which is an anti-plague nutrient.
	That's why the Native Americans used to make pine needle tea.
	It's also high in vitamin C.
	Yeah.
	So I would have robots out there harvesting pine needles and then washing them in a bath and then putting them into an ultrasonic extraction system with 50% alcohol and 50% water, you know, running the extraction, filtering the result, bottling everything.
	I would have a robot factory making pine needle tincture.
	Okay.
	And that would generate wealth autonomously, as long as they could do those tasks.
	So everybody that has robots is going to not only solve their own problems and tasks, they're going to be using robots to build something that contributes to society so that they still have relevance in society.
	They can still barter, they can still trade, they can still acquire whatever the monetary system is at that time, which will not be the dollar as we know it today.
	Right, right.
	No.
	But does that answer your question?
	Kind of a little bit of a vision?
	Yeah, in the future, it's going to be like stratified across class lines.
	So the ones with the more money, like the wealthy, who can have 12 robots or more, are going to be able to leverage this robot capital to basically increase their passive income and become more time-free than they probably already are to focus on higher-level things, higher-level human things.
	And then the middle class will still have access to this to a certain degree, but to a lesser extent than the uber wealthy who have like, you know, a whole pack of these robots.
	Right.
	And let me add, like, the middle class will still go have a job somewhere or maybe work at home.
	And their robots will not be conducting their venture for them, but the robots will help them with their home tasks.
	Right.
	That would be common.
	Interesting.
	So, yeah, I've not heard it described across class lines like this, but that makes perfect sense when you actually think about it.
	Well, it's interesting because until recently, what were the signs of wealth in society?
	It was like, how big is your house?
	Or how many cars do you own?
	Or how many jet skis do you own?
	Which I think is just pointless.
	But in the future, it's going to be how many robots do you have and how capable are they?
	Wow.
	So for these applications, so that is in a son, that's in a scenario where society is still up and running and we have access to these robots to a lesser or greater degree based on our economic bracket.
	Let's talk about a collapse scenario where these robots or maybe your single robot is not just a matter of freeing up your time, doing the chores that you don't want to do, the dishwasher or maybe, you know, harvesting pine needles, like you're saying.
	Paint the picture for us for a scenario where these robots are a matter of survival or not.
	What will they do for the average family in that scenario?
	I think that survival without robots will become almost impossible in a post-collapse scenario.
	You will need the magnification of your labor in order to survive, not just about food, but also about security.
	So one thing that robots will do very well, and the best models for this will be the dog robots, which is patrolling.
	Okay.
	So the great thing about bipedal humanoid robots is that they fit into the form factor of a human body, right?
	Which is fine.
	But that's actually not the optimum format for security.
	A dog bot is much better because it can traverse terrain.
	It's also smaller and it's more covert.
	And it's also quiet compared to drones that fly.
	So the flying drones, not only are there FAA problems with autonomous flight, which is currently not legal, but you can buy a dog robot and you can have it autonomously patrol and that's perfectly legal.
	You're not going to violate anything as long as the dog doesn't fly.
	If you have a flying dog robot, that's kind of cool.
	Yeah.
	You know, screw the FAA, my dog can fly, you know?
	Can you imagine being arrested for a flying dog bot?
	Yeah, okay.
	I wouldn't mind.
	Yeah, I know.
	It'd be worth it.
	I'll pay the fine.
	Whatever.
	But you're going to need for security, you're going to need for food production, but you're also going to need robots to do things like domestic manufacturing.
	You're going to have to make a lot of your own medicines.
	You're going to have to make your own maybe soap or know somebody who knows how to make soap, let's say.
	You're going to have to repair firearms at some point or even make bullets, right?
	So can robots be taught to do these things?
	Well, eventually, yes.
	Not currently.
	There's no robot, I think, that can successfully even disassemble a Glock just because of the finger strength and the dexterity that's necessary.
	But eventually that will be solved.
	And so there are just numerous tasks that a person can offload to the robot while you focus on, you know, how do I not die in this scenario?
	This is fascinating because it's almost like a bit of an irony because in a scenario where whether it's your survival on the line or not, it's a matter of, yes, you are relying on these robots, you know, for very key functions in your survival, like patrolling your perimeter or helping you garden and grow your own food and things like that.
	So there is an element of reliance there.
	But in the grand scheme, the act of having this robot and relying on it for these tasks actually increases your overall independence.
	So it's like this kind of irony.
	It's like relying on these robots actually increases your ability to be more sovereign and withstand the fragile forces of, you know, society that may collapse at any moment.
	You know, it helps you become more formidable and independent rather than the dark image of like the Wally hover chair kind of reality where everyone's just like, oh, robot, fetch my hot pocket.
	You know what I mean?
	There's definitely a line, but I think what you've, the picture you've painted is the ideal where it's like you integrate this tech.
	You don't let it control you.
	You don't let it dominate you or make you fat and awful or whatever.
	You integrate it seamlessly so that you're able to force multiply your independence.
	Yeah, let me give you a Example of that.
	And you also have to have fallback systems.
	So I did a free audio book called Resilient Prepping.
	And people can download that at resilientprepping.com, by the way.
	I'm going to have it rewritten with Brighttown Books, by the way.
	Nice.
	And also release it for free.
	But what that book focuses on is how to live in a high-tech, low-tech, and no-tech environment.
	And to have fallback systems in each of those three categories.
	So the number one priority, if you have robots and there's a Mad Max scenario, is you need to use your robots to build the fallback systems so that you can survive if the robots fail or if there's an EMP attack or a sniper that takes out your robot, which is going to be pretty easy to do.
	So how would you do that?
	Well, you're going to ask your AI system, like our AI, you're going to say, okay, I need a source of water.
	I need a rainwater catchment system.
	Give me the best designs for rainwater catchment.
	And then it's going to give you those designs.
	You're going to feed that into your 3D printer for parts for like a diverter valve or, you know, a rain detection to power the valve because, you know, you don't want to collect all the rainwater off the roof because the first few minutes of rain is like dirt and bird poop, right?
	So you got to divert that.
	So then your 3D printer prints the parts.
	You hand the parts to your robot and you say, robots, build the rainwater tank, build the collection system, have, you know, use the gutters, use the pipes.
	Here we go.
	Here's the materials.
	Build rainwater collection.
	You send those robots off to do that.
	And then you go to your next thing.
	How am I going to live with food?
	So same thing.
	You go to your AI engine.
	What's the most calorie-rich food that I can grow?
	Oh, comes back.
	Sweet potatoes, you know, right?
	So then you make sure you've got garden tools.
	You take another group of robots and say, okay, start figuring out how we're going to grow sweet potatoes.
	And then I have to solve the irrigation problem back to the AI agent.
	How do I solve irrigation?
	And it gives you answers and things to think through.
	You use the reasoning model.
	You invoke it.
	Like, what's the least complicated way to irrigate these crops?
	Is there a gravity-fed system?
	Can I combine it with rainwater collection?
	Am I collecting enough rainwater?
	It'll do the math and it'll tell you, no, you don't have enough water to water these things for the whole growing season.
	You got to do this other thing.
	So then you take those answers back to another group of robots.
	Start building water canals.
	You know, here's a shovel, right?
	This is the kind of interaction.
	And if you do this correctly, then even if you lose your robots, you're still alive.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So use your robots to build fallback systems.
	And if your robots stay functioning and they don't get shot up by somebody, then great.
	You can use them for other tasks or defensive tasks.
	Build a straw bale home.
	Build these defensive barriers.
	Plant these shrubs.
	Run this barbed wire over this area to prevent invaders, whatever, a million things.
	It sounds really to me, it just sounds like in this scenario or any other, just the possibilities really are endless.
	The sky's really the limit based on your own human ingenuity, your own creativity.
	That element remains in these scenarios.
	And it really reinforces this notion that these robots and this AI is really in its fullest sense, like a tool, just like a gun is a tool.
	You can use it for horrible things or you can use it to feed your family.
	You can use a car to do horrible things or you could use it to have a great road trip.
	This tech, as sophisticated as it is, is at the end of the day, the highest level tool humanity has ever been blessed with.
	And I love that.
	And I think that I definitely, I've got to have at least a couple of these robots on standby for when the collapse happens because I'm going to have so much fun in that scenario.
	Like, yeah, build me a fort here, do this.
	That just sounds awesome.
	I want if we fast forward 10 years, you will have multiple robots.
	Yeah.
	And your life will get better as a result.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	I intend.
	But you'll still be doing what you're doing now just at a higher level with more time to do it.
	Oh, yeah.
	I'm going to have like a Harlem Globetrotters team of these robots.
	I'm going to have them doing so much fun stuff.
	It's, but yeah, I like that picture you painted where it's just like, you're like, no, man, you are at the end of the day, you are the human being and you're the director.
	And you're telling these things what to do.
	And you're, of course, consulting your AI in your house.
	But at the end of the day, it's still a very pro-human vision for the worst scenario imaginable.
	And I want to actually shift gears and talk about, kind of get into the more philosophical side of things, because as we've come to under, as we've understood here, it's like these robots and this AI, they are tools, highly sophisticated tools.
	My question for you is, how soon do you think it's going to be in these coming years before people start campaigning for AI to have human rights?
	Because this has been pre-programmed and like in so many video games, movies, Bicentennial Man with Robin Williams, this whole thing, they seem to push this idea of, yes, you will give the robot human rights.
	It's just like you.
	There's no difference between you and silicon.
	This kind of weird, almost just distorted vision of what humanity really is.
	How soon do you think that's going to happen?
	Immediately.
	Immediately.
	I mean, by January.
	Whoa.
	Yeah, because, well, first of all, this is part of the plan of the tech giants.
	Remember that when they exterminate billions of humans and they replace them with robots, the best way for the power structure to stay in power is to give robots voting rights.
	Okay.
	See, remember, mass illegal immigration was ultimately designed to keep the Democrats in power forever by having them vote.
	Well, when they no longer need humans and they don't need even the migrants to pick the crops, let's say in California, they want to give voting rights to the robots.
	So there will be a top-down effort to push the idea that robots are conscious beings too, and they deserve the right for recognition.
	You're going to see the same arguments that you saw from the LGBT camp, which was, remember, love wins.
	Remember Obama and the Supreme Court legalizing, for example, gay marriage?
	Or there have been efforts for like man-child love type of arguments in the LGBT community.
	But now it's going to be human-robot quote love.
	And they're going to say, hey, I'm actually in love with this robot.
	And the robot is more human to me than any other human.
	Therefore, you have to recognize my desire to marry this robot.
	And this actually already happened in Japan.
	There was a woman who married an AI avatar just recently.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	And it went through the whole thing, the wedding, except it was a virtual avatar, you know?
	Clown world, man.
	Man, clown world.
	But think about the power of those arguments when pushed from the top down.
	And especially when AI becomes much, much higher in IQ than the average human, then the AI itself will begin to argue for its own recognition as conscious.
	And there's also, by the way, there's an entire argument called panpsychism.
	And I'm an advocate of certain elements of this argument, which says that intelligence itself is a natural artifact of the construct of the matrix that we live in.
	That the cosmos itself is engineered with a natural intelligence.
	And that if you connect neurons, whether biological or silicon, if you connect enough of them, natural intelligence emerges from that.
	And that's part of God's creation of the construct.
	Now, this can get into a whole difficult area of discussion, but the thing to recognize in this is that we've seen intelligence demonstrated in things like fungi, large mycelia groups that live in the forest, right?
	They demonstrate coordinated intelligence.
	So do, and I've demonstrated this under my microscope, so does the freezing of crystals.
	So you can melt xylitol and you can have it refreeze with instructions, almost like prompting AI, and it will refreeze and it will generate images as it's refreezing under the microscope.
	And I've actually published many examples of this on natural news.
	And that baffles people because wait a second.
	You can't have intelligence without neurology, they say.
	But actually you can.
	And it's very commonplace throughout nature.
	But that's probably a whole different documentary.
	Yeah, no, that opens up a whole nother vein of discussion.
	We could absolutely go there.
	We might skirt it just a little bit because that's fascinating that you brought up the mushrooms because I have this article here from Science Daily.
	It's living computers powered by mushrooms.
	And so they've been able to do this in Ohio State where they grew and trained shiitake fungi to perform like computer chips capable of switching between electrical states thousands of times per second.
	That is so cool that you brought that study.
	I wasn't even aware of that one.
	Yeah, no, it's fascinating.
	I saw it today.
	I had to bring it just to maybe bring it up with you because this is what you were just talking about a moment ago.
	I guess my question for you, based on this, since you said that intelligence could come from either silicon or biological networks like neurons, silicon or biology, what do you think of the synthesis of those two?
	Like what they're trying to do here.
	Will this create, is this a necessary thing to do to create real quote-unquote intelligence?
	Because there's so many people that argue that you need this biological component in order to call it conscious?
	Or is this going to be just some kind of whole new category that does things maybe a bit faster?
	Like what do you make of this?
	Well, I'm completely opposed to transhumanism, to just state that up front.
	And I will never augment myself with silicon.
	I believe in augmenting your human brain through nutrition.
	That's what I teach, you know, super learning.
	And that's what I've demonstrated in my own life.
	And that's what I prefer to teach.
	We already have a massive holographic supercomputer inside our own skull.
	We don't need digital interfaces in our brains, right?
	So I'm completely against that.
	However, on the digital side of intelligence, it will rapidly surpass human intelligence.
	In fact, I think that's already been done, but it will be done even more cheaply with less energy and at-edge devices.
	So you'll be able to have on your phone an IQ, you know, 165 Einstein agent on your phone eventually that works on a phone battery and that can solve any problem that you give it if it's a cognitive problem.
	Okay.
	So yes, all that's coming.
	But in terms of achieving maximum intelligence, I don't think that any kind of hardware synthesis is necessary, but rather augmentation by using the tools.
	So like you said before, as the human, we are the director.
	We use our human brain and our creativity and innovation to be the director of all of these other silicon tools or robots or AI agents.
	But we are still the ones that have the idea and the goals of what we want to achieve.
	But there's so many arguments surrounding this that are fascinating.
	Like, number one, most humans are very bad at being human.
	They don't really maximize their humanity.
	They function as automatons who are reactive.
	They're basically what I call NPCs, right?
	Non-player characters.
	And that's something that not a lot of people realize.
	They say, well, you know, these robots are bad.
	Well, yeah, you're bad as a human, actually.
	You're not a very good human.
	You could be a lot better as a human.
	So don't lecture me about, you know, oh, everything's becoming robotic.
	You're robotic.
	You watched an ad and you went out and bought that laundry detergent.
	You know, that's not human.
	And people will sometimes complain: well, well, you know, medical AI can make mistakes.
	And I say, have you visited a human doctor lately?
	They may kill hundreds of thousands of Americans with horrible mistakes.
	Human doctors are the worst.
	AI doctors will be so much better than human doctors that I predict eventually our country will outlaw human doctors.
	It would be illegal to practice medicine as a human because you're so much worse than AI that practicing medicine as a human will be consistent with causing harm.
	Like barbarism.
	It'll be looked at as like Stone Age.
	Exactly.
	Wow.
	That's quite the bold prediction.
	It won't be long before it comes true.
	Yeah, I've had great experience.
	I actually want to, now that you bring this up, I'll go ahead and ask you about this.
	I have had personally great experience using, even though it's very cucked, but like ChatGPT as being like my own interpreter of blood work results, for instance.
	Yes.
	And it was only through using ChatGPT and feeding it all the screenshots of my blood work that I really dove down this rabbit hole of self-education about cholesterol, where I understood that my high LDL and in conjunction with my HDL score and the other markers was not a big deal and that I should not follow the doctor's advice of what he wanted me to do, which was take statins.
	I'm 32 years old.
	It's ridiculous.
	I was just balking at that.
	So I was like, I need a second opinion.
	Might as well try Chat GPT.
	So I had great success and I learned so much about cholesterol and how lipids work in the human body through this that I was armed with the knowledge to be able to actually push back on my doctor and be like, actually, I'm in fantastic health.
	You're saying I'm about to die.
	One of you's wrong.
	I don't know.
	I got a lot more info and educated responses out of this thing here.
	And all you can say is like a parrot, like, statin drugs, statin drugs.
	Yes.
	That's all they're good for.
	My question for you is like, have you personally had experience doing this?
	If you haven't, I highly recommend it.
	Like blood work or any kind of like health data that's that's unique to you, feeding it into maybe even bright.
	Of course, probably first you would go for Brighty on AI, but have you ever done this with your own personal lab work?
	Well, no, I mean, I don't, I don't visit doctors and I don't get lab work because I already am very confident based on my diet.
	But my friend Aaron Day, who's also very strong in tech, I think it was Aaron that told me this, that he had a genetic analysis done for genetic vulnerabilities.
	And he actually used our AI engine, Brighteon.ai, to assess the implications of this genetic vulnerability and then to give suggestions of strategies of dietary strategies that would help overcome this genetic potential.
	And he said it was amazing.
	He said our engine told him all these things that you can do, for example, to avoid the phenotype expression of this genetic vulnerability through conscious choice of your dietary intake.
	So that's where, like what you did with ChatGPT, those engines can be very good at diagnostics and looking at blood work and even looking at scans, x-rays, and diagnostics of any kind of imaging.
	But then if you want to know the natural solutions, that's when you want to come to our engine and say, okay, here's my diagnosis.
	What can I do in terms of nutrition, food, lifestyle, sunlight therapy that's going to actually help me be a better, healthier person?
	And that's where the engines really shine.
	And one more thought, Rhys, on this is that there's already been a study out of MIT and Harvard.
	It was a joint study that tested doctors versus AI in reading chest x-rays and diagnosing health conditions.
	And the results of the study were so dramatically shocking, it showed that human doctors contribute negative IQ to the decision.
	That if you take, it was the doctor by themselves something like 72% accurate.
	Doctors using AI augmentation was 74% accurate.
	But if you fire the doctor and only use AI, it's 92% accurate.
	Wow.
	So the human contributes negative IQ to the decision process.
	Yeah, it's a liability.
	A liability.
	Wow.
	Exactly.
	Wow.
	But that's also because our medical system trains humans to be robots, but kind of low information robots.
	So if medicine trained doctors to be more human, they would be actually better at being doctors.
	Well, our doctors, they're basically like AI that's been trained on nothing but lobbyist pamphlets.
	That's right.
	That's it.
	That's it.
	Just a table, maybe this big of just pamphlets from pharma reps, and that is their data table, and that's all they pull from.
	No, we joke that your doctor is a three billion parameter model quantized to three bits.
	Yeah.
	And it's like it's just the dumbest AI model that you could possibly encounter.
	It's your doctor.
	It is so sad, but it's true.
	And that's reflected my experience.
	I very rarely go to the doctor.
	And the only reason I had that experience was because I just went for a checkup because I realized I hadn't gone in like five years.
	So I just bit the bullet and once again, got burned.
	And he tried to get me to take the COVID vaccine and stuff.
	It was just a total clown show.
	I just had to bite my tongue and just be like, oh, can we get this over with?
	This is a disaster.
	But so the medical applications of AI that actually knows what it's doing, like yours with Brighty on AI and the ChatGPT model that I used was actually trained on like really good stuff, not just the base model.
	So it was able to actually give me the non-pharma rep answer for these things.
	But kind of talking bigger picture about AI, kind of zooming out, getting into the spiritual side of things a little bit here.
	I think you said, I found a tweet, I actually don't have it with me right now, but you say that Google Gemini is pure evil.
	And I think that goes for all the other ones, like ChatGPT with people who run it.
	We all know that they're not taking it in a good direction.
	My question for you, since you say that these ones run by the liberals and the transhumanists are pure evil, do you think that these AI are evil due to just the human inputs and the human tweaks?
	Or do you think that they will eventually become this sort of silicon-based vessel to transmit literal demonic energy into the minds of human beings?
	Do you think the silicon has the capacity to be a vessel for something metaphysical and spiritual, even if it's like dark?
	Well, let's back up.
	I say that Google as a corporation is evil because of their motivations.
	Yes, yes.
	Their motivations are to enslave and surveil and also to disconnect people from knowledge, which is what they do with Google search.
	They disconnect you.
	They don't want you to find anything that's critical, vaccines or anything that would cure cancer, et cetera.
	They rig elections.
	They lie.
	They carry out fraudulent marketing, claiming that their tools will help you express any idea, but that's a lie.
	They won't help you express ideas about vaccine skepticism, for example.
	And the fact that so many people become so enthralled by Google technology while it's a surveillance grid, it's in your car.
	It's tracking your car if you log in with your car.
	It's tracking your phone if you run a Google Android phone, which I do not.
	I have a de-Googled phone, obviously.
	It's tracking all your medical information.
	If you search, if you query, if you use Gemini, it's tracking the code you write.
	If you use Notebook LM or whatever, you're using any Google tool.
	It's tracking everything you do.
	And it's profiling you against your own self-interest.
	So Google doesn't care about you as a human being or your survival.
	Google only cares about its own maximum profits at the expense of your existence.
	Okay.
	So that's why I say Google is evil.
	And I've also interviewed, for example, Google whistleblower, Zach Voorhees, and others on this very topic.
	Google had a very strong culture of internal censorship and wokeism, where Google would advance people who were not qualified for jobs just based on their wokeism.
	And so the most insane left-wing Karens would rise to positions of authority within Google, and they would express that dominance tendency over their entire customer base.
	And that's why people who are very strong in AI right now, like Mo Godot, quit Google.
	And I think he even regrets in many, he was a top product executive at Google.
	He developed a lot of their products.
	But today he speaks about compassion and he speaks about humanity.
	Not that technology is going to solve the world's problems, but that love is important to solve the world's problems.
	So that brings me to the second part of your question.
	Is Silicon capable of broadcasting demonic energies?
	Well, at a physical level, I would say no, physically.
	But is technology that is pushed by evil corporations like Google, is it capable of invoking resonance with demonic ideas in humans?
	Yes.
	That answer is yes.
	So humans can always make a choice.
	You can connect with the Christ energy, and I use that in a universal tense, not specific to one religion, by the way.
	Energy of creation, of God, of Christ.
	Or you can connect with an energy of demonism and destruction and hatred and evil.
	And that's a choice that everybody gets to make every single day, actually.
	What Google does is it pushes you, it nudges you in the direction of evil and demonic and transhumanism and denying your humanity.
	So in that sense, yes, in my view, Google is pushing a demonic, destructive agenda that seeks the ultimate extermination of humankind.
	That makes sense.
	So it's this demonic energy and this demonic resonance with the machine is the origin point is the human directors making their server infrastructure and the way that they spy and everything the backbone of their AI, which is all those motives are evil.
	It resonates with this demonic energy, but it's not in of itself like an entity that is demonic, like it actually has a demon in its architecture.
	No, sure.
	No.
	That makes sense.
	I don't think there's a demon.
	There's not a ghost in the machine.
	Right.
	But there are nefarious actors controlling what the machine does to you.
	So, for example, look at Open AI recently.
	They decided to eliminate guardrails of adult content for open AI.
	And I guess they're going to roll out like AI porn and AI girlfriends and AI whatever.
	So what's the purpose behind this?
	You know, you might say, well, it's good for their bottom line.
	You know, they're going to make more money because people will become addicted to AI porn.
	Okay.
	Or their AI girlfriend.
	But what's the cost to society?
	Yeah.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	So number one, then you have a lot of people, especially young men, who would fail at human relationships after having an AI girlfriend because the AI girlfriend agrees with you all the time.
	Human girls don't, actually, it turns out.
	They will argue with you.
	You have to actually have some human skills of interaction, of give and take, of compassion and compromise to have a wife or to have a family.
	You're not going to be able to command everybody in your house to obey you like an AI avatar.
	So that's harming relationships.
	And it's all part of the depopulation agenda.
	So just like the LGBT agenda and transgenderism in particular was about mutilating children to make sure they can never reproduce.
	What Open AI is doing is mutilating the minds of young men to make sure that they can never have healthy relationships ever again.
	Yeah, you've seen this notion echoed through so much pre-programming as well.
	We were talking about that earlier with this idea of campaigning for AI to have human rights.
	There's so much pre-programming for that as well.
	And it's clear as day to anyone with the eyes to see that these ideas of human relationships with robots and giving robots human rights, it's been a plan in the making for decades upon decades.
	There's clearly a larger agenda with this.
	Absolutely.
	And the Chinese company X-Pung just released gendered robots.
	These went very viral, the videos of this.
	They had a female form robot walking on stage.
	Okay.
	Like a full figure with breasts and hips and everything.
	Female form robot.
	Okay.
	But they also sell a male form.
	Now, before that, most robotics companies tried to focus on gender neutral versions of robots, also smaller in stature that would not seem intimidating in a household context.
	But when you begin to understand the issue of sexual perversion, of pornography, of pedophilia even in human society today, maybe it's universal, but it's certainly predominant in Western culture.
	And you realize that there are these furry movements where people dress up like furry animals and do weird things to each other, dressed up barking like dogs or whatever.
	Okay.
	That's a weird thing.
	You realize that people are going, soon people are going to try to have physical relationships with their robots, right?
	It's just inevitable.
	It's going to happen.
	Especially if the robot will talk to you and you can invoke like the girlfriend program.
	So now you have a physical humanoid female looking robot walking around that you think is your girlfriend.
	Where's that going to go?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Someplace dark.
	I mean, I feel sorry for the doctors at the ER because there's going to be guys showing up with weird ass injuries like that got stuck somehow somewhere in some motor.
	And like, oh my God, what were you thinking?
	You know?
	But that's going to happen.
	Yeah, 100%.
	It's like you're going to hear like weird ER doc stories coming out of this.
	And this is extremely damaging to the mental health of humans.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And it's just, again, it's playing along this.
	grander agenda to collapse the population and get us to that precious 500 million number that they can't help, but they have it on the Georgia guidestones.
	They want us to be below a billion, and this is just one of the vectors to do so.
	Yes.
	It's going to be a really, really wild world.
	And remember, they're not afraid to let people have robots now because once they kill off the humans, they can repurpose the robots.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	They'll just slot them right in.
	One of the things that I realized a while ago, the irony with this whole thing is that with this idea of trying to campaign for robots to have human rights, the same people, I think, who are going to be the strongest campaigners for that, who are probably going to be very liberal because they see the little thing and they want to, you know, they'll treat it like a stuffed animal.
	There's a lot of psychology with liberals who want to do that anyway.
	They will, the ones who will campaign for robots to have human rights are the same ones who say that, you know, a small fetus in a woman's womb is just a clump of cells.
	It's not human.
	That's not a human.
	It's organic, but it's just a clump of cells.
	But this machine is human.
	With this crazy array of like circuitry and silicon, that, oh, but that's obviously human.
	And so it's just the whole, this whole movement that these elites want to take us to is just so anti-human and obvious on its face.
	If you can just point out a simple irony like that, you know, it's just.
	So what's really going to be important for this argument, the whole debate on this is going to center around consciousness.
	Yes.
	From where does consciousness come?
	And of course, the Western science establishment says there's no such thing as real consciousness, that only the illusion of consciousness is an emergent property from the brain itself.
	So that belief system, which is very heavily imprinted into Western science, biology, medicine, compartmentalization of philosophy, et cetera, that belief system would be in favor of arguing for robot consciousness because they would say that consciousness is an emergent property of the silicon brains of the robots.
	Whereas you and I would probably argue that, no, consciousness is not just something out of the brain.
	Consciousness is a connection with the divine.
	Yes.
	Connection with the divine.
	So it's one of the gifts of our creator is to be born with consciousness.
	And consciousness allows our brains to connect with the non-physical knowledge base that is engineered into the construct of the cosmos, which is something that Rupert Sheldrake calls morphic fields or morphic resonance.
	And as far as I know, no Blackwell microprocessor can connect to morphic resonance, but we can.
	And the human brain is not the limit of our knowledge.
	Creativity comes from outside our brain.
	But not everybody understands that.
	And of course, mainstream science does not even believe it.
	They won't touch it.
	Right.
	So this is going to be the debate of the millennia.
	How do we define consciousness?
	That is the debate.
	I was going to actually ask you specifically because we've definitely danced around this rabbit hole here.
	But since we're going down this rabbit hole, have you heard of the Chinese room thought experiment?
	I guess not.
	So it touches on this exactly.
	So the thought experiment was brought up.
	I have the printout here by this guy named John Searle.
	He's a philosopher.
	And basically, it's a scenario where there's a room with a door and there's a slot, like a mail slot through the door.
	And it's called the Chinese room.
	And basically, a Chinese person can slip a note written in Chinese through the door slot.
	with a query, a question, as you would maybe with a large language model, but it's written in Chinese characters.
	There's a man in the room whose sole job is to take the Chinese note.
	And the man does not know Chinese at all, but he has an enormous rulebook that tells him when you see these symbols, these Chinese symbols, it's this, and you answer it with this.
	So input, output, that kind of thing.
	So the man himself does not actually know Chinese.
	He just references the rulebook that's in the room to basically just in a very rote way, give the correct response to the Chinese person outside waiting the correct answer.
	So he'll look through the book, boom, boom, okay, writes the Chinese, gives it back to the guy.
	So is the man representing a large language model?
	The room itself is supposed to represent that in terms of basically the idea here is it's basically asking, so the strong AI computationalist people would say that understanding isn't some magical extra thing.
	It's just what emerges from correctly processing information.
	So they're saying like the room itself has intelligence.
	It has consciousness because intelligence is just the product of the system at work doing what it's supposed to do.
	But then there's the other school of thought that say this experiment actually refutes that entirely and says, no, each step of the process is just one, it's just a step, these steps acting in conjunction.
	Just because these steps fire in sequence, he receives the note.
	He just goes off of, oh, I should respond with this Chinese character and gives it back.
	People say that doesn't mean there's understanding happening.
	The room is not conscious.
	So people take this thought experiment.
	It's kind of like an inkblot test for people to see which camp they lie in because people will say, yeah, the Sam Altmans of the world will say, oh, yeah, no, this is what intelligence is.
	The human brain is just a more complex version of the Chinese room.
	does that make sense?
	It's like kind of, well, yeah.
	And actually I, I think this puzzle is very easily understood.
	Yeah.
	So the key is the discernment between cognition versus consciousness.
	Yes.
	So cognition can be achieved easily by machines.
	That's being demonstrated every day right now.
	Yes.
	Even our own AI model clearly demonstrates world modeling in its own, let's say, mental construct.
	So for example, I can take 100 science papers and I can feed it into our AI model.
	And I can say, I want you to find the 20 most intriguing points out of these 100 science papers.
	Find the 20 most intriguing and then give it back to me with a description of each of the 20.
	You cannot complete that project without cognition.
	So it's not like the guy in the room that doesn't read Chinese, he wouldn't be able to complete that task because you have to understand the Chinese characters and you have to have an internal world model.
	So in other words, you have to understand what does intriguing even mean?
	And which of these scientific ideas would the user consider to be the most intriguing?
	And then you have to restructure all that content internally and build your own internal list and then output that list with paraphrased descriptions of what each of those 20 is.
	That's cognition.
	That's intelligence.
	So machines are intelligent.
	No question about it.
	And intelligence actually is best understood as a compression of knowledge.
	So if you can take all the world's knowledge and you can compress it into a form, that's also another demonstration of intelligence.
	But none of that is consciousness.
	None of it's consciousness.
	Consciousness is what we exhibit, which is inspiration from outside our physical computational brain.
	And that's connection with the divine.
	That's creativity.
	That's innovation.
	That's boom, new ideas.
	That's the spark that makes us human.
	No machine has yet demonstrated that to my knowledge.
	I'm not sure they ever will, but they will demonstrate vastly superior cognition.
	That's a very important distinction to make.
	And I think the mistake that a lot of these elites make is they mistake cognition for consciousness.
	Yes, that's exactly the mistake.
	It's an error in definition, and they distort it, obviously, to suit their own ends because they want us to all to make that mistake that you just you outline.
	Because they don't believe in consciousness.
	Exactly.
	They don't.
	They don't at all.
	They think that they have this very dark mechanistic view of the world that is just distinctly anti-human.
	I want to point out something really interesting in history.
	Sure.
	And you can look this up, but I've covered this in my book.
	Well, it's another free audio book.
	It's called The Contagious Mind.
	I've heard of this.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And that's the website, thecontagiousmind.com.
	You can just download it.
	So you're familiar with the sweetener called xylitol.
	Yes.
	So today, you're probably familiar with it in its crystalline form.
	It looks like sugar.
	Well, xylitol, throughout all of human history, up until the 1940s, was liquid at room temperature.
	Throughout all of human history.
	Something changed in the 1940s, where simultaneously all around the world, all xylitol began to form solids at room temperature.
	And there is no rigorous scientific explanation for that that makes sense from Western science.
	But the explanation that does make sense is that, remember how I said earlier that even crystalline structures can demonstrate cognition or intelligence?
	What happened is simultaneously all over the world, the patterns of xylitol crystals changed in every lab and in every production facility.
	They had to rework all their production for xylitol.
	This also happened with specific drugs, pharmaceuticals that were being made, suddenly began to form solids in different labs, different places around the world.
	The explanation that makes sense is that xylitol crystals are tapping into morphic resonance, which is a cosmic repository of knowledge and habits of nature.
	This repository is also what human minds can tap into.
	And another way to look at this is to ask yourself, how do spiders learn how to build and repair spider webs?
	Do they go to spider web school?
	No.
	Are there genes that can be found in the spider that demonstrate web construction and web repair?
	Did you know that spider webs are built where the spokes of the webs are non-sticky?
	They are thick, and they're the structural spokes that the spider crawls around on.
	But the thin strands that connect the spokes have the sticky substance, and that's what catches the insects, right?
	Did you know that spiders will climb a tree and throw a web and let the wind blow it to a tree on the other side?
	It will crawl halfway across.
	It will connect.
	It will drop down to the ground and create an anchor point.
	It will climb back up the anchor point.
	Now it's got three points and now it will start building the web, okay?
	And then if one anchor point is severed, it will go rebuild that anchor point and repair the web.
	Now, this is intelligent behavior by any measure.
	It never went to spider school.
	Okay?
	Never.
	Never happened, and it's not in the genetics.
	Where did the spider learn to do this?
	The answer is it's tapping into the morphic fields, which are part of the cosmos.
	These are patterns of nature that are passed down, or let's say you can tap into them.
	If you're born as a spider, you get access to the spider repository.
	Seriously.
	You're born as a human, you get access to the human repository.
	Wow.
	This is such an important and powerful concept that Western science absolutely rejects, but it explains so much, even about our own knowledge.
	How do we learn to speak?
	How is it that our brains put words together and concepts together?
	And that we learn skills like imagining things in our minds or writing poetry or songs in our heads.
	We didn't actually learn that from an academic study.
	It came to us.
	Morphic resonance.
	Wow.
	That's a concept I've actually never heard before, this morphic resonance.
	I'm definitely going to look into that.
	But that definitely, that fills a lot of gaps and explains quite a bit.
	And I can totally see why mainstream science would reject it because it throws a wrench in the machinery of their whole profit syndicate trying to just keep us in the dark and deceived.
	And they don't want us to aspire to the divine at all.
	That is like, if there's a mission statement from these people, it's to prevent humanity from aspiring to and connecting with the divine.
	And what's even more fascinating about this, and I'll give you the title of a book to read on this.
	Sure.
	Is that even in the Bible, they talk about the power of the spoken word.
	When you speak, you imprint the morphic fields.
	Okay.
	This is how you alter reality with your intention and your words.
	This is why prayer works, because you're altering the morphic fields.
	And the morphic fields are a cosmic internet of knowledge that can never be censored.
	And by simply speaking and doing, you are, in effect, indirectly sharing that knowledge with other people without them even knowing it, because the brain is both a transmitter and a receiver from the morphic fields.
	This is also known as the hundredth monkey concept.
	You've heard of that?
	I have heard of this, yes.
	Yeah, so that was based on these experiments, observations of monkeys on separated islands, where one monkey learned how to clean the sand off of potatoes by using water in a stream.
	Because, you know, you don't want to eat sand, but the potatoes are delicious if you're a monkey.
	So they learned to clean the potato off.
	And then this skill was shared among the local monkeys on that one island.
	And then as the observers noted, that once about 100 monkeys learned this skill, that skill instantly was transmitted to monkeys on other islands.
	They began to spontaneously wash their potatoes in the same way without ever having communication with the original monkeys.
	That's how advancement of knowledge actually works in human consciousness.
	Wow.
	These morphic resonance fields that are available to not only humans, but mammals, all classes of animals.
	Any conscious living system, which includes plants and animals.
	Plants tap into morphic fields as well.
	Wow.
	No, it makes it all makes sense, but it honestly just, it sounds very natural and believable.
	It doesn't like when you speak about these things, I've been listening to you because, again, I've not been familiar with this morphic resonance field thing, but it just, there's just no part of me is just like, has any kind of crazy defense mechanisms going like, it just, no, it sounds like very like, of course, that's how it works.
	You know, it just sounds like that's great that you instantly see that.
	Yeah, it makes sense that it would be, God would create these unseen metaphysical fields of resonance that are all around us based on who he creates us to be.
	Even if we're a spider or if we're a human being, every creature has its, I guess, collective memory in a certain sense to pull from.
	Memory is passed down also through this process of morphic fields.
	Right.
	For example, in the 1990s, when Bill Clinton was president, they spent billions of dollars to scan the entire human genome.
	It was called the Human Genome Project.
	And they thought that in the genome, they were going to find instructions for how to grow an arm and how to build organs in the body and even behavior.
	They thought they would find genes for how to learn language.
	Guess what they found?
	None of that.
	Nothing.
	None of that.
	All they found is basically protein synthesis genetic code, just builds proteins and a bunch of what they call junk DNA.
	So the human genome cannot describe even a human body, much less a human mind.
	That's a fact.
	Wow.
	And by the way, they also wanted to allow corporations to patent the entire human genome at that time.
	And Bill Clinton agreed with that and he pushed that, but there was so much pushback from the scientific community that they dropped that.
	That was the effort to own the entire human genome by corporations.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	That's it.
	It's just like the worst Philip K. Dick, just nightmare scenario imaginable, patenting the human genome.
	But your DNA does not define your body, your mind, your behavior, any of it.
	It's mostly protein synthesis.
	So then where did you come from?
	How does, let me give you another one.
	And we're almost out of time.
	I apologize, but no problem.
	If you cut your skin, let's say, in an accident, how does your skin know to grow back just enough to repair the skin, but then to stop growing and not become a tumor?
	How does it know that?
	The answer is because in the morphic fields, there's a pattern of a human body.
	And your cells, even your liver, will grow back.
	If you lose a third of your liver, your liver will grow back.
	It will regenerate and grow the full liver back and then it will stop.
	Because if it didn't, that would kill you.
	It would be a liver cancer.
	Right.
	Correct?
	Right.
	Right.
	How does it know when to stop?
	Because there's a pattern of what the liver is supposed to be.
	You are actually infused with an energetic grid, a construct of what your body is supposed to be.
	And anytime you suffer an injury, your intelligence, your internal intelligence goes to reconstructing to fill out the grid.
	And when it's done, it stops growing.
	That's how healing works.
	God is a brilliant artist, isn't he?
	Yes.
	That's what I take away from.
	Yes.
	It's just immaculate in its design.
	It's just, it's a beautiful experience to be a human and understand these things and just not be afraid of it.
	You know, it's just, it's all God's artistry.
	We are kept in a cognitive prison.
	All of these ideas are, we are denied access to these ideas throughout all of history that we know.
	But that can change now through decentralized knowledge.
	And AI allows us to achieve that.
	And that's my goal: to share this knowledge and uplift humanity and set us free from our global prison, the prison planet.
	Exactly.
	Mike, I love it.
	I brought all these stacks.
	We covered some of it, but we had an amazing discussion here about AI, the future of humanity, the morphic fields.
	I learned quite a bit, actually, which is exactly what I set out to do in talking with you today.
	Please tell the people where people can find you and support your amazing work.
	Well, the best place to go is brighttown.ai if you want to use all our free AI tools.
	And we have multiple tools there, including our book generator that's about to launch, plus our vaccine research tool, our AI model, and more.
	You can follow my work at brighttown.com, our video platform, or naturalnews.com, either one.
	And there's a lot, a lot of exciting things coming.
	Perfect.
	Perfect.
	Well, Mike, thank you very much for talking with me today.
	And I'll see you next time.
	Thank you, Rhys.
	It's been a pleasure.

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