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Mike Adams: I Will Train Humanoid Robots to Help Humanity Survive the Collapse

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	Hello, everybody, and welcome.
	Today, I'm joined by my esteemed guest, Mike Adams.
	You know him as the Health Ranger on Brideon.com, natural news, you name it.
	He's the health and wellness advocate, prepper extraordinaire.
	We are here in his brand new studios here to talk about some really cool developments he's been a part of lately with AI and actually prepper robots of all things.
	So that is exactly where we're going to start because I saw him on the Jones show when I was working the Jones show a couple weeks ago.
	You were remoting in, you were his guest, and you said something that immediately caught my attention.
	You started talking about this planned facility here where you're going to train robots, humanoid robots that we see are coming out right now to be prepper robots, to be able to cook, to be able to patrol around your perimeter, do all sorts of crazy stuff.
	And I was just like, I'm sorry.
	Did I just hear the coolest thing ever?
	I'm sorry.
	Did I just hear the coolest thing ever?
	So as soon as that interview ended, I had to reach out and we've been able to connect and we're here today to talk about that.
	Many more things as well.
	I've got all the stacks in typical InfoWars fashion.
	Mike Adams, welcome to the show.
	Hey, Reese, I'm thrilled to join you today.
	Thank you for coming out to our facility.
	Yeah.
	And I'm just so enthusiastic that you love this topic.
	I do too.
	This is going to be awesome because, you know, here you can see our facility.
	You see what we have here, right?
	Oh, yeah.
	Behind me is this kitchen set where we're going to test robots in the kitchen.
	And then also we have about 5,000 square feet of space that people can't see from the camera, but we're setting up stations there for robot testing and practical skills like a laundry room, a simulated garden to test carrying firewood, to test harvesting tomatoes, to test folding laundry, whatever, you know, household tasks and small farm tasks.
	That's our goal.
	Yeah, no, this is my first time ever being here.
	So I'm blown away again by not only this new studio, but yeah, this whole facility out here.
	It's a great design you've got coming up.
	I want to start with the robots and just go from the beginning.
	I talked with you earlier a little bit about Brightion AI, the origins of that, what sparked that, the need to create this unbiased, decentralized AI system.
	But what was the moment for you for these robots where you were just like, oh, no, no, next step is humanoid robots trained to be prepper robots?
	What was the moment where you're like, okay, this is my next move?
	Well, I think it's actually been pretty obvious for a long time that the amplification of human labor through autonomous robotic systems would be a breakaway moment for human civilization, but only if we can make those robots decentralized and open source and not have them function as spy machines, which is what the establishment wants.
	So if you think about what we do in our lives, mostly humans, they achieve cognition and labor, cognition and labor.
	You know, you're using your brain, you're thinking through problems, you're solving problems.
	I'm talking about in the workplace, you know, human relationships would be separate from these two categories, but you're using your brain for cognition and then you're using your muscles for labor.
	And throughout all of human history, it was these two outputs that actually built civilization.
	And it mostly started with labor, of course, in an agrarian society where your labor was a very big part of building up civilization through the production of food.
	But then the Industrial Revolution, right, began to take over labor and that allowed specialization into cognition.
	And that's where we got more universities.
	We got specialization in physics and chemistry, et cetera.
	People using their brains instead of their muscles.
	From that, then we got technology.
	And then technology brings us back around to the automation of muscle through robotics.
	And of course, the automation of cognition through AI agents.
	So I'm trying to work to help humanity survive these massive changes that are coming.
	As the globalists clearly want to exterminate billions of humans and replace them with robots and AI, I believe that we need to, instead, we need to augment ourselves and up our game.
	We've got to level up with decentralized AI and decentralized robotics.
	That's the only way for us to survive these changes.
	You can't do it just by yourself because software AI will be smarter than any human.
	It probably already is now.
	In fact, I'm certain of it.
	And soon, within a small number of years, robotics will be able to outperform most humans on most physical tasks.
	So this isn't something to reject and say, oh, I never want, like, the robots are the devil.
	You know, like, that's not going to help you.
	You need to, in my opinion, you need to learn how to use and control this technology.
	And then people like myself, we need to innovate open source, decentralized versions of this tech so that you could buy a robot from China, let's say, but you could flash it, flash its memory, and it could be a homegrown open source robot.
	You're just using the hardware from China, but it's the brains from, you know, Arizona or wherever the hacker group is that built the brains.
	That's my vision for how we make it through this.
	Okay.
	So you've painted that picture here.
	There's a couple different ways we can go with this.
	I want to stay on this about the actual application, like the actual application of these humanoid robots.
	Should you get them all trained up in the exact way you want?
	You flash them, you do everything, and it proves to be like a very successful model.
	I want to talk a little bit about like a day in the life, your perfect vision of what this would look like.
	And let's just go with like, let's have fun with it, like a total collapse scenario where this thing is like instrumental to a family's survival.
	We'll talk a little bit about that, and then we'll go into kind of the big picture, almost philosophical stuff about man's relation with machines, and then we'll just go from there.
	But for now, walk me through what this would look like.
	It's a grid-down scenario.
	A family has been able to thankfully procure one of your humanoid robots or something like it.
	It's mind wiped and replaced with all the good stuff that you would want in something like that.
	How would somebody use one of these as a tool for survival?
	Well, let me give you a definition of wealth in the future, in the near future.
	Wealth is going to be defined by how many robots you own and how many agentic AI systems you control, which means how much compute you can afford.
	So the ultra-wealthy will be surrounded by a huge number of agentic AI systems that would be doing, for example, autonomous research or business development tasks.
	And they're burning tokens, which cost money.
	Not much money, by the way, because tokens are getting less and less expensive.
	But the robots will always cost something because of the minerals, the metals, the aluminum, the copper, nickel, tungsten, whatever that goes into the manufacture of the robots.
	They will always cost something.
	A poor person will have no robot.
	You will have to do everything yourself.
	That will be considered poverty.
	A middle class person would have one robot.
	And that one robot would help them with their tasks, like, hey, pick up the trash or take out the trash, load the dishwasher, right?
	All these monotonous tasks that we all hate to do.
	Yeah.
	You know, for me on my farm, like, I got to clean out the chicken coop again or just collecting chicken eggs or whatever, right?
	So one robot will be able to do quite a bit at a cost of probably, let's say, eventually something like a dollar an hour in terms of the long-term cost.
	You know, so for roughly like $24 a day, you can have a robot.
	And it'll do a lot.
	It'll really help amplify your time.
	And that will free you up to do the other tasks that are more value-added, that are more important for your life.
	For example, telling your AI agents what to research or telling your 3D printer what to build and having your AI agent design a 3D CAD design to feed it to your 3D printer because, hey, I need this part for my tractor or whatever, right?
	So these are higher level tasks that people will be involved in.
	A wealthy person will have a dozen robots doing much more intricate things.
	So a dozen robots could be doing things like growing a large amount of food for you, actually farming or constructing things or building things that are part of your own business.
	You would be in the business of manufacturing things, let's say, or growing and harvesting things.
	Like, for example, on my ranch in Texas, I grow loblolly pine needle trees or pine trees.
	And the loblolly pines are very high in shikimic acid, which is an anti-plague nutrient.
	That's why the Native Americans used to make pine needle tea.
	It's also high in vitamin C.
	So I would have robots out there harvesting pine needles and then washing them in a bath and then putting them into an ultrasonic extraction system with 50% alcohol and 50% water, running the extraction, filtering the result, bottling everything.
	I would have a robot factory making pine needle tincture.
	Okay.
	And that would generate wealth autonomously, as long as they could do those tasks.
	So everybody that has robots is going to not only solve their own problems and tasks, they're going to be using robots to build something that contributes to society so that they still have relevance in society.
	They can still barter, they can still trade, they can still acquire whatever the monetary system is at that time, which will not be the dollar as we know it today.
	Right, right.
	No.
	But does that answer your question?
	Kind of a little bit of a vision?
	Yeah.
	In the future, it's going to be like stratified across class lines.
	So the ones with the more money, like the wealthy, who can have 12 robots or more, are going to be able to leverage this robot capital to basically increase their passive income and become more time-free than they probably already are to focus on higher level things, higher level human things.
	And then the middle class will still have access to this to a certain degree, but to a less like lesser extent than the uber wealthy who have like, you know, a whole pack of these robots.
	Right.
	And let me add, like, the middle class will still go have a job somewhere or maybe work at home.
	And their robots will not be conducting their venture for them.
	Right.
	But the robots will help them with their home tasks.
	Right.
	That would be common.
	Interesting.
	So yeah, I've not heard it described across class lines like this, but that makes perfect sense when you actually think about it.
	Well, it's interesting because until recently, what were the signs of wealth in society?
	It was like, how big is your house?
	Or how many cars do you own?
	Or how many jet skis do you own?
	Which I think is just pointless.
	But in the future, it's going to be how many robots do you have and how capable are they?
	Wow.
	So For these applications, so that is in a scenario, that's in a scenario where society is still up and running, and we have access to these robots to a lesser or greater degree based on our economic bracket.
	Let's talk about a collapse scenario where these robots, or maybe your single robot, is not just a matter of freeing up your time, doing the chores that you don't want to do, the dishwasher, or maybe, you know, harvesting pine needles, like you're saying.
	Paint the picture for us for a scenario where these robots are a matter of survival or not.
	What will they do for the average family in that scenario?
	I think that survival without robots will become almost impossible in a post-collapse scenario.
	You will need the magnification of your labor in order to survive, not just about food, but also about security.
	So, one thing that robots will do very well, and the best models for this will be the dog robots, which is patrolling.
	Okay.
	So, the great thing about bipedal humanoid robots is that they fit into the form factor of a human body, right?
	Which is fine, but that's actually not the optimum format for security.
	A dog bot is much better because it can traverse terrain.
	It's also smaller and it's more covert.
	And it's also quiet compared to drones that fly.
	So, the flying drones, not only are there FAA problems with autonomous flight, which is currently not legal, but you can buy a dog robot and you can have it autonomously patrol, and that's perfectly legal.
	You're not going to violate anything as long as the dog doesn't fly.
	If you have a flying dog robot, that's kind of cool.
	Yeah, yeah.
	You know, screw the FAA, my dog can fly, you know.
	Can you imagine being arrested for a flying dog bot?
	Yeah, okay.
	I wouldn't mind.
	Yeah, I know.
	It'd be worth it.
	I'll pay the fine.
	Whatever.
	But you're going to need for security, you're going to need for food production, but you're also going to need robots to do things like domestic manufacturing.
	You're going to have to make a lot of your own medicines.
	You're going to have to make your own maybe soap or know somebody who knows how to make soap, let's say.
	You're going to have to repair firearms at some point, or even make bullets, right?
	So, can robots be taught to do these things?
	Well, eventually, yes.
	Not currently.
	There's no robot, I think, that can successfully even disassemble a Glock just because of the finger strength and the dexterity that's necessary.
	But eventually, that will be solved.
	And so, there are just numerous tasks that a person can offload to the robot while you focus on, you know, how do I not die in this scenario?
	This is fascinating because it's almost like a bit of an irony because in a scenario where whether it's your survival on the line or not, it's a matter of, yes, you are relying on these robots, you know, for very key functions in your survival, like patrolling your perimeter or helping you garden and grow your own food and things like that.
	So, there is an element of reliance there.
	But in the grand scheme, the act of having this robot and relying on it for these tasks actually increases your overall independence.
	So, it's like this kind of irony.
	It's like relying on these robots actually increases your ability to be more sovereign and withstand the fragile forces of society that may collapse at any moment.
	It helps you become more formidable and independent rather than the dark image of like the Wally hover chair kind of reality where everyone's just like, oh, robot, fetch my hot pocket.
	You know what I mean?
	There's definitely a line, but I think what you've, the picture you've painted is the ideal where it's like you integrate this tech.
	You don't let it control you.
	You don't let it dominate you or make you fat and awful or whatever.
	You integrate it seamlessly so that you are able to force multiply your independence.
	Yeah, let me give you a good example of that.
	And you also have to have fallback systems.
	So I did a free audio book called Resilient Prepping.
	And people can download that at resilientprepping.com, by the way.
	I'm going to have it rewritten with Brightown Books, by the way.
	Nice.
	And also release it for free.
	But what that book focuses on is how to live in a high-tech, low-tech, and no-tech environment.
	And to have fallback systems in each of those three categories.
	So the number one priority, if you have robots and there's a Mad Max scenario, is you need to use your robots to build the fallback systems so that you can survive if the robots fail or if there's an EMP attack or a sniper that takes out your robot, which is going to be pretty easy to do.
	So how would you do that?
	Well, you're going to ask your AI system, like our AI, you're going to say, okay, I need a source of water.
	I need a rainwater catchment system.
	Give me the best designs for rainwater catchment.
	And then it's going to give you those designs.
	You're going to feed that into your 3D printer for parts for like a diverter valve or a rain detection to power the valve because you don't want to collect all the rainwater off the roof because the first few minutes of rain is like dirt and bird poop, right?
	So you got to divert that.
	So then your 3D printer prints the parts.
	You hand the parts to your robot and you say, robots, build the rainwater tank, build the collection system, have, you know, use the gutters, use the pipes.
	Here we go.
	Here's the materials.
	Build rainwater collection.
	You send those robots off to do that.
	And then you go to your next thing.
	How am I going to live with food?
	So same thing.
	You go to your AI engine.
	What's the most calorie-rich food that I can grow?
	Oh, comes back.
	Sweet potatoes, you know, right?
	So then you make sure you've got garden tools.
	You take another group of robots and say, okay, start figuring out how we're going to grow sweet potatoes.
	And then I have to solve the irrigation problem back to the AI agent.
	How do I solve irrigation?
	And it gives you answers and things to think through.
	You use the reasoning model.
	You invoke it.
	Like, what's the least complicated way to irrigate these crops?
	Is there a gravity-fed system?
	Can I combine it with rainwater collection?
	Am I collecting enough rainwater?
	It'll do the math and it'll tell you, no, you don't have enough water to water these things for the whole growing season.
	You got to do this other thing.
	So then you take those answers back to another group of robots.
	Start building water canals.
	You know, here's a shovel, right?
	This is the kind of interaction.
	And if you do this correctly, then even if you lose your robots, you're still alive.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So use your robots to build fallback systems.
	And if your robots stay functioning and they don't get shot up by somebody, then great.
	You can use them for other tasks or defensive tasks.
	Build a straw bale home.
	Build these defensive barriers.
	Plant these shrubs.
	Run this barbed wire over this area to prevent invaders, whatever, a million things.
	It sounds really to me, it just sounds like in this scenario or any other, just the possibilities really are endless.
	The sky's really the limit based on your own human ingenuity, your own creativity.
	That element remains in these scenarios.
	And it really reinforces this notion that these robots and this AI is really in its fullest sense, like a tool, just like a gun is a tool.
	You can use it for horrible things or you can use it to feed your family.
	You can use a car to do horrible things or you could use it to have a great road trip.
	This tech, as sophisticated as it is, is at the end of the day, the highest level tool humanity has ever been blessed with.
	And I love that.
	And I think that I definitely, I've got to have at least a couple of these robots on standby for when the collapse happens because I'm going to have so much fun in that scenario.
	Like, yeah, build me a fort here, do this.
	That just sounds awesome.
	I want to.
	If we fast forward 10 years, you will have multiple robots.
	Yeah.
	And your life will get better as a result.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	I intend.
	But you'll still be doing what you're doing now just at a higher level with more time to do it.
	Oh, yeah.
	I'm going to have like a Harlem Globetrotters team of these robots.
	I'm going to have them doing so much fun stuff.
	It's, but yeah, I like that picture you painted where it's just like, you're like, no, man, you are at the end of the day, you are the human being and you are the director.
	And you're telling these things what to do.
	And you're, of course, consulting your AI in your house.
	But at the end of the day, it's still a very pro-human vision for the worst scenario imaginable.
	And I want to actually shift gears and talk about, kind of get into the more philosophical side of things, because as we've come to, as we've understood here, it's like these robots and this AI, they are tools, highly sophisticated tools.
	My question for you is, how soon do you think it's going to be in these coming years before people start campaigning for AI to have human rights?
	Because this has been pre-programmed in so many video games, movies, Bicentennial Man with Robin Williams, this whole thing.
	They seem to push this idea of, yes, you will give the robot human rights.
	It's just like you.
	There's no difference between you and silicon.
	This kind of weird, almost just distorted vision of what humanity really is.
	How soon do you think that's going to happen?
	Immediately.
	Immediately.
	I mean, by January.
	Whoa.
	Yeah, because, well, first of all, this is part of the plan of the tech giants.
	Remember that when they exterminate billions of humans and they replace them with robots, the best way for the power structure to stay in power is to give robots voting rights.
	Okay.
	See, remember, mass illegal immigration was ultimately designed to keep the Democrats in power forever by having them vote.
	Well, when they no longer need humans and they don't need even the migrants to pick the crops, let's say in California, they want to give voting rights to the robots.
	So there will be a top-down effort to push the idea that robots are conscious beings too, and they deserve the right for recognition.
	You're going to see the same arguments that you saw from the LGBT camp, which was, remember, love wins.
	Remember Obama and the Supreme Court legalizing, for example, gay marriage?
	Or there have been efforts for like man-child love type of arguments in the LGBT community.
	But now it's going to be human-robot, quote, love.
	And they're going to say, hey, I'm actually in love with this robot.
	And the robot is more human to me than any other human.
	Therefore, you have to recognize my desire to marry this robot.
	And this actually already happened in Japan.
	There was a woman who married an AI avatar just recently.
	Oh, wow.
	And it went through the whole thing, the wedding, except it was a virtual avatar, you know?
	Clown world, man.
	Man, clown world.
	But think about the power of those arguments when pushed from the top down.
	And especially when AI becomes much, much higher in IQ than the average human, then the AI itself will begin to argue for its own recognition as conscious.
	And there's also, by the way, there's an entire argument called panpsychism.
	And I'm an advocate of certain elements of this argument, which says that intelligence itself is a natural artifact of the construct of the matrix that we live in.
	That the cosmos itself is engineered with a natural intelligence.
	And that if you connect neurons, whether biological or silicon, if you connect enough of them, natural intelligence emerges from that.
	And that's part of God's creation of the construct.
	Now, this can get into a whole difficult area of discussion, but the thing to recognize in this is that we've seen intelligence demonstrated in things like fungi, large mycelia groups that live in the forest, right?
	They demonstrate coordinated intelligence.
	So do, and I've demonstrated this under my microscope, so does the freezing of crystals.
	So you can melt xylitol and you can have it refreeze with instructions, almost like prompting AI, and it will refreeze and it will generate images as it's refreezing under the microscope.
	And I've actually published many examples of this on natural news.
	And that baffles people because wait a minute, wait, wait a second.
	You can't have intelligence without neurology, they say, but actually you can, and it's very commonplace throughout nature.
	But that's probably a whole different documentary.
	Yeah, no, that is that opens up a whole other vein of discussion.
	We could absolutely go there.
	We might skirt it just a little bit because that's fascinating that you brought up the mushrooms.
	Because I have this article here from Science Daily.
	It's living computers powered by mushrooms.
	And so they've been able to do this in Ohio State, where they grew and trained shiitake fungi to perform like computer chips capable of switching between electrical states thousands of times per second.
	So that is so cool that you brought that study.
	I wasn't even aware of that one.
	Yeah, no, it's fascinating.
	I saw it today.
	I had to bring it just to maybe bring it up with you because this is what you were just talking about a moment ago.
	I guess my question for you, based on this, since you said that intelligence could come from either silicon or biological networks like neurons, silicon or biology, what do you think of the synthesis of those two?
	Like what they're trying to do here, will this create, is this a necessary thing to do to create real quote-unquote intelligence?
	Because there's so many people that argue that you need this biological component in order to call it conscious?
	Or is this going to be just some kind of whole new category that does things maybe a bit faster?
	Like what do you make of this?
	Well, I'm completely opposed to transhumanism to just state that up front.
	And I will never augment myself with silicon.
	I believe in augmenting your human brain through nutrition.
	That's what I teach, you know, super learning.
	And that's what I've demonstrated in my own life.
	And that's what I prefer to teach.
	We already have a massive holographic supercomputer inside our own school.
	We don't need digital interfaces in our brains, right?
	So I'm completely against that.
	However, on the digital side of intelligence, it will rapidly surpass human intelligence.
	In fact, I think that's already been done, but it will be done even more cheaply with less energy and at-edge devices.
	So you'll be able to have on your phone an IQ, you know, 165 Einstein agent on your phone eventually that works on a phone battery and that can solve any problem that you give it if it's a cognitive problem.
	Okay.
	So yes, all that's coming.
	But in terms of achieving maximum intelligence, I don't think that any kind of hardware synthesis is necessary, but rather augmentation by using the tools.
	So like you said before, as the human, we are the director.
	We use our human brain and our creativity and innovation to be the director of all of these other silicon tools or robots or AI agents.
	But we are still the ones that have the idea and the goals of what we want to achieve.
	But there's so many arguments surrounding this that are fascinating.
	Like number one, most humans are very bad at being human.
	They don't really maximize their humanity.
	They function as automatons who are reactive.
	They're basically what I call NPCs, right?
	Non-player characters.
	And that's something that not a lot of people realize.
	They say, well, you know, these robots are bad.
	Well, yeah, you're bad as a human, actually.
	You're not a very good human.
	You could be a lot better as a human.
	So don't lecture me about, you know, oh, everything's becoming robotic.
	You're robotic.
	You watched an ad and you went out and bought that laundry detergent.
	You know, that's not human.
	And people will sometimes complain.
	Well, you know, medical AI can make mistakes.
	And I say, have you visited a human doctor lately?
	They kill hundreds of thousands of Americans with horrible mistakes.
	Human doctors are the worst.
	AI doctors will be so much better than human doctors that I predict eventually our country will outlaw human doctors.
	It will be illegal to practice medicine as a human because you're so much worse than AI that practicing medicine as a human will be consistent with causing harm.
	Like barbarism.
	It'll be looked at as like Stone Age.
	Exactly.
	Wow.
	That's quite the bold prediction.
	It won't be long before it comes true.
	Yeah, I've had great experience.
	I actually want to, now that you bring this up, I'll go ahead and ask you about this.
	I have had personally great experience using, even though it's very cucked, but like ChatGPT as being like my own interpreter of blood work results, for instance.
	Yes.
	And it was only through using ChatGPT and feeding it all the screenshots of my blood work that I really dove down this rabbit hole of self-education about cholesterol, where I understood that my high LDL and in conjunction with my HDL score and the other markers was not a big deal and that I should not follow the doctor's advice of what he wanted me to do, which was take statins out of toxic.
	It's ridiculous.
	I was just balking at that.
	So I was like, I need a second opinion.
	Might as well try ChatGPT.
	So I had great success and I learned so much about cholesterol and how lipids work in the human body through this that I was armed with the knowledge to be able to actually push back on my doctor and be like, actually, I'm in fantastic health.
	You're saying I'm about to die.
	One of you's wrong.
	I don't know.
	I got a lot more info and educated responses out of this thing here.
	And all you can say is like a parrot, like, statin drugs, statin drugs.
	Yes.
	That's all they're good for.
	My question for you is like, have you personally had experience doing this?
	If you haven't, I highly recommend it.
	Like blood work or any kind of like health data that's that's unique to you, feeding it into maybe even bright.
	Of course, probably first you would go for Brighty on AI, but have you ever done this with your own personal lab work?
	Well, no.
	I mean, I don't visit doctors and I don't get lab work because I already, I'm very confident based on, you know, my diet.
	But my friend Aaron Day, who's also very strong in tech, I think it was Aaron that told me this, that he had a genetic analysis done for genetic vulnerabilities.
	And he actually used our AI engine, Brighteon.ai, to assess the implications of this genetic vulnerability and then to give suggestions of strategies of dietary strategies that would help overcome this genetic potential.
	And he said it was amazing.
	He said our engine told him all these things that you can do, for example, to avoid the phenotype expression of this genetic vulnerability through conscious choice of your dietary intake.
	So that's where, like what you did with ChatGPT, those engines can be very good at diagnostics and looking at blood work and even looking at scans, x-rays, and diagnostics of any kind of imaging.
	But then if you want to know the natural solutions, that's when you want to come to our engine and say, okay, here's my diagnosis.
	What can I do in terms of nutrition, food, lifestyle, sunlight therapy that's going to actually help me be a better, healthier person?
	And that's where the engines really shine.
	And one more thought, Rhys, on this is that there's already been a study out of MIT and Harvard.
	It was a joint study that tested doctors versus AI in reading chest x-rays and diagnosing health conditions.
	And the results of the study were so dramatically shocking.
	It showed that human doctors contribute negative IQ to the decision.
	That if you take, it was the doctor by themselves something like 72% accurate.
	Doctors using AI augmentation was 74% accurate.
	But if you fire the doctor and only use AI, it's 92% accurate.
	Wow.
	So the human contributes negative IQ to the decision process.
	Yeah, it's a liability.
	A liability.
	Wow.
	Exactly.
	Wow.
	But that's also because our medical system trains humans to be robots, but kind of low-information robots.
	So if medicine trained doctors to be more human, they would be actually better at being doctors.
	Well, our doctors, they're basically like AI that's been trained on nothing but lobbyist pamphlets.
	That's right.
	That's it.
	That's it.
	Just a table maybe this big of just pamphlets from pharma reps, and that is their data table, and that's all they pull from.
	Yeah.
	No, we joke that your doctor is a three billion parameter model quantized to three bits.
	Yeah.
	And it's like it's just the dumbest AI model that you could possibly encounter is your doctor.
	It is so sad, but it's true.
	And that's reflected my experience.
	I very rarely go to the doctor.
	And the only reason I had that experience was because I just went for a checkup because I realized I hadn't gone in like five years.
	So I just bit the bullet and once again got burned.
	And he tried to get me to take the COVID vaccine and stuff.
	It was just a total clown show.
	I was had to bite my tongue and just like, oh, can we get this over with?
	This is a disaster.
	But so the medical applications of AI that actually knows what it's doing, like yours with Brighton on AI and the ChatGPT model that I used was actually trained on like really good stuff, not just the base model.
	So it was able to actually give me the non-pharma rep answer for these things.
	But kind of talking bigger picture about AI, kind of zooming out, getting into the spiritual side of things a little bit here.
	I think you said, I found a tweet.
	I actually don't have it with me right now, but you say that Google Gemini is pure evil.
	And I think that goes for all the other ones, like ChatGPT with people who run it.
	We all know that they're not taking it in a good direction.
	My question for you: since you say that these ones run by the liberals and the transhumanists are pure evil, do you think that these AI are evil due to just the human inputs and the human tweaks?
	Or do you think that they will eventually become this sort of silicon-based vessel to transmit literal demonic energy into the minds of human beings?
	Do you think the silicon has the capacity to be a vessel for something metaphysical and spiritual, even if it's like dark?
	Well, let's back up.
	I say that Google as a corporation is evil because of their motivations.
	Yes, yes.
	Their motivations are to enslave and surveil and also to disconnect people from knowledge, which is what they do with Google search.
	They disconnect you.
	They don't want you to find anything that's critical of vaccines or anything that would cure cancer, et cetera.
	They rig elections.
	They lie.
	They carry out fraudulent marketing, claiming that their tools will help you express any idea, but that's a lie.
	They won't help you express ideas about vaccine skepticism, for example.
	And the fact that so many people become so enthralled by Google technology while it's a surveillance grid, it's in your car.
	It's tracking your car if you log in with your car.
	It's tracking your phone if you run a Google Android phone, which I do not.
	I have a de-Googled phone, obviously.
	It's tracking all your medical information.
	If you search, if you query, if you use Gemini, it's tracking the code you write.
	If you use Notebook LM or whatever, you're using any Google tool.
	It's tracking everything you do.
	And it's profiling you against your own self-interest.
	So Google doesn't care about you as a human being or your survival.
	Google only cares about its own maximum profits at the expense of your existence.
	Okay, so that's why I say Google is evil.
	And I've also interviewed, for example, Google whistleblower Zach Voorhees and others on this very topic.
	Google had a very strong culture of internal censorship and wokeism, where Google would advance people who were not qualified for jobs just based on their wokeism.
	And so the most insane left-wing Karens would rise to positions of authority within Google, and they would express that dominance tendency over their entire customer base.
	And that's why people who are very strong in AI right now, like Mo Godot, quit Google.
	And I think he even regrets in many, he was a top product executive at Google.
	He developed a lot of their products.
	But today he speaks about compassion and he speaks about humanity.
	Not that technology is going to solve the world's problems, but that love is important to solve the world's problems.
	So that brings me to the second part of your question.
	Is Silicon capable of broadcasting demonic energies?
	Well, at a physical level, I would say no, physically.
	But is technology that is pushed by evil corporations like Google, is it capable of invoking resonance with demonic ideas in humans?
	Yes.
	That answer is yes.
	So humans can always make a choice.
	You can connect with the Christ energy, and I use that in a universal tense, not specific to one religion, by the way.
	Energy of creation, of God, of Christ.
	Or you can connect with an energy of demonism and destruction and hatred and evil.
	And that's a choice that everybody gets to make every single day, actually.
	What Google does is it pushes you, it nudges you in the direction of evil and demonic and transhumanism and denying your humanity.
	So in that sense, yes.
	In my view, Google is pushing a demonic, destructive agenda that seeks the ultimate extermination of humankind.
	That makes sense.
	So it's this demonic energy and this demonic resonance with the machine is the origin point is the human directors making their server infrastructure and the way that they spy and everything the backbone of their AI, which is all those motives are evil.
	So it resonates with this demonic energy, but it's not in of itself like an entity that is demonic, like it actually has a demon in its architecture.
	No, sure.
	No.
	That makes sense.
	I don't think there's a demon.
	There's not a ghost in the machine.
	Right.
	But there are nefarious actors controlling what the machine does to you.
	So for example, look at OpenAI recently.
	They decided to eliminate guardrails of adult content.
	for open AI.
	And I guess they're going to roll out like AI porn and AI girlfriends and AI whatever.
	So what's the purpose behind this?
	You know, you might say, well, it's good for their bottom line.
	You know, they're going to make more money because people will become addicted to AI porn.
	Okay.
	Or their AI girlfriend.
	But what's the cost to society?
	Yeah.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	So number one, then you have a lot of people, especially young men, who would fail at human relationships after having an AI girlfriend because the AI girlfriend agrees with you all the time.
	Human girls don't, actually, it turns out.
	They will argue with you.
	You have to actually have some human skills of interaction, of give and take, of compassion and compromise to have a wife or to have a family.
	You're not going to be able to command everybody in your house to obey you like an AI avatar.
	So that's harming relationships.
	And it's all part of the depopulation agenda.
	So just like the LGBT agenda and transgenderism in particular was about mutilating children to make sure they can never reproduce.
	What OpenAI is doing is mutilating the minds of young men to make sure that they can never have healthy relationships ever again.
	Yeah, you've seen this notion echoed through so much pre-programming as well.
	We were talking about that earlier with this idea of campaigning for AI to have human rights.
	There's so much pre-programming for that as well.
	And it's clear as day to anyone with the eyes to see that these ideas of human relationships with robots and giving robots human rights, it's been a plan in the making for decades upon decades.
	There's clearly a larger agenda with this.
	Absolutely.
	And the Chinese company X-Pung just released gendered robots.
	These went very viral, the videos of this.
	They had a female form robot walking on stage.
	Okay.
	Like a full figure with breasts and hips and everything.
	Female form robot.
	Okay.
	But they also sell a male form.
	Now, before that, most robotics companies tried to focus on gender neutral versions of robots, also smaller in stature that would not seem intimidating in a household context.
	But when you begin to understand the issue of sexual perversion, of pornography, of pedophilia even in human society today, maybe it's universal, but it's certainly predominant in Western culture.
	And you realize that there are these furry movements where people dress up like furry animals and do weird things to each other, dressed up barking like dogs or whatever.
	Okay.
	That's a weird thing.
	You realize that people are going, soon people are going to try to have physical relationships with their robots, right?
	It's just inevitable.
	It's going to happen.
	Yeah.
	Especially if the robot will talk to you and you can invoke like the girlfriend program.
	So now you have a physical humanoid female looking robot walking around that you think is your girlfriend.
	Where's that going to go?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Someplace dark.
	Someplace dark.
	Someplace right.
	I mean, I feel sorry for the doctors at the ER because there's going to be guys showing up with weird ass injuries like that got stuck somehow somewhere in some motor.
	And like, oh my God, what were you thinking?
	You know?
	But that's going to happen.
	Yeah, 100%.
	You're going to hear like weird ER doc stories coming out of this.
	And this is extremely damaging to the mental health of humans.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And it's just, again, it's playing along this grander agenda to collapse the population and get us to that precious 500 million number that they can't help, but, you know, they have it on the Georgia guidestones.
	They want us to be below a billion.
	And this is just one of the vectors to do so.
	Yes.
	It's going to be a really, really wild world.
	And remember, they're not afraid to let people have robots now because once they kill off the humans, they can repurpose the robots.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	They'll just slot them right in.
	One of the things that I realized a while ago, the irony with this whole thing is that with this idea of trying to campaign for robots to have human rights, the same people, I think, who are going to be the strongest campaigners for that, who are probably going to be very liberal because they see the little thing and they want to, you know, they'll treat it like a stuffed animal.
	There's a lot of psychology with liberals who want to do that anyway.
	They will, the ones who will campaign for robots to have human rights are the same ones who say that, you know, a small fetus in a woman's womb is just a clump of cells.
	It's not human.
	That's not a human.
	It's organic, but it's just a clump of cells.
	But this machine is human.
	With this crazy array of like circuitry and silicon, that, oh, but that's obviously human.
	And so it's just the whole, this whole movement that these elites want to take us to is just so anti-human and obvious on its face.
	If you can just point out a simple irony like that, you know, it's just.
	So what's really going to be important for this argument, the whole debate on this is going to center around consciousness.
	Yes.
	From where does consciousness come?
	And of course, the Western science establishment says there's no such thing as real consciousness, that only the illusion of consciousness is an emergent property from the brain itself.
	So that belief system, which is very heavily imprinted into Western science, biology, medicine, compartmentalization of philosophy, et cetera, that belief system would be in favor of arguing for robot consciousness because they would say that consciousness is an emergent property of the silicon brains of the robots.
	Whereas you and I would probably argue that, no, consciousness is not just something out of the brain.
	Consciousness is a connection with the divine.
	Yes.
	Connection with the divine.
	So it's one of the gifts of our creator is to be born with consciousness.
	And consciousness allows our brains to connect with the non-physical knowledge base that is engineered into the construct of the cosmos, which is something that Rupert Sheldrake calls morphic fields or morphic resonance.
	And as far as I know, no Blackwell microprocessor can connect to morphic resonance, but we can.
	And the human brain is not the limit of our knowledge.
	Creativity comes from outside our brain.
	So, but not everybody understands that.
	And of course, mainstream science does not even believe it.
	They won't touch it.
	Right.
	So this is going to be the debate of the millennia, you know.
	How do we define consciousness?
	That is the debate.
	I was going to actually ask you specifically because we've definitely danced around this rabbit hole here.
	But since we're going down this rabbit hole, have you heard of the Chinese room thought experiment?
	I guess not.
	So it touches on this exactly.
	So the thought experiment was brought up.
	I have the printout here by this guy named John Searle.
	He's a philosopher.
	And basically, it's a scenario where there's a room with a door and there's a slot, like a mail slot through the door.
	And it's called the Chinese room.
	And basically, a Chinese person can slip a note written in Chinese through the door slot with a query, a question, as you would maybe with a large language model.
	But it's written in Chinese characters.
	There's a man in the room whose sole job is to take the Chinese note.
	And the man does not know Chinese at all.
	But he has an enormous rulebook that tells him when you see these symbols, these Chinese symbols, it's this, and you answer it with this.
	So input, output, that kind of thing.
	So the man himself does not actually know Chinese.
	He just references the rulebook that's in the room to basically just in a very rote way, give the correct response to the Chinese person outside waiting the correct answer.
	So he'll look through the book, boom, boom, okay, writes the Chinese, gives it back to the guy.
	So is the man representing a large language model?
	The room itself is supposed to represent that in terms of basically the idea here is it's basically asking.
	So the strong AI computationalist people would say that understanding isn't some magical extra thing.
	It's just what emerges from correctly processing information.
	So they're saying like the room itself has intelligence.
	It has consciousness because intelligence is just the product of the system at work doing what it's supposed to do.
	But then there's the other school of thought that say this experiment actually refutes that entirely and says, no, each step of the process is just one, it's just a step, these steps acting in conjunction.
	Just because these steps fire in sequence, he receives the note, he just goes off of, oh, I should respond with this Chinese character and gives it back.
	People say that doesn't mean there's understanding happening.
	The room is not conscious.
	So people take this thought experiment.
	It's kind of like an inkblot test for people to see which camp they lie in because people will say, yeah, the Sam Altmans of the world will say, oh, yeah, no, this is what intelligence is.
	The human brain is just a more complex version of the Chinese room.
	Does that make sense?
	It's like kind of a weird thing.
	Well, yeah, and actually I think this puzzle is very easily understood.
	Yeah.
	So the key is the discernment between cognition versus consciousness.
	Yes.
	So cognition can be achieved easily by machines.
	That's being demonstrated every day right now.
	Yes.
	Even our own AI model clearly demonstrates world modeling in its own, let's say, mental construct.
	So for example, I can take 100 science papers and I can feed it into our AI model.
	And I can say, I want you to find the 20 most intriguing points out of these 100 science papers.
	Find the 20 most intriguing and then give it back to me with a description of each of the 20.
	You cannot complete that project without cognition.
	So it's not like the guy in the room that doesn't read Chinese, he wouldn't be able to complete that task because you have to understand the Chinese characters and you have to have an internal world model.
	So in other words, you have to understand what does intriguing even mean?
	And which of these scientific ideas would the user consider to be the most intriguing?
	And then you have to restructure all that content internally and build your own internal list and then output that list with paraphrase descriptions of what each of those 20 is.
	That's cognition.
	That's intelligence.
	So machines are intelligent.
	No question about it.
	And intelligence actually is best understood as a compression of knowledge.
	So if you can take all the world's knowledge and you can compress it into a form, that's also another demonstration of intelligence.
	But none of that is consciousness.
	None of it's consciousness.
	Consciousness is what we exhibit, which is inspiration from outside our physical computational brain.
	And that's connection with the divine.
	That's creativity.
	That's innovation.
	That's boom, new ideas.
	That's the spark that makes us human.
	No machine has yet demonstrated that to my knowledge.
	I'm not sure they ever will, but they will demonstrate vastly superior cognition.
	That's a very important distinction to make.
	And I think the mistake that a lot of these elites make is they mistake cognition for consciousness.
	Yes, that's exactly what it is.
	It's an error in definition, and they distort it, obviously, to suit their own ends because they want us to make, they want us all to make that mistake that you just you out.
	Because they don't believe in consciousness.
	Exactly.
	They don't.
	They don't at all.
	They think that they have this very dark mechanistic view of the world that is just distinctly anti-human.
	I want to point out something really interesting in history.
	Sure.
	And you can look this up, but I've covered this in my book.
	Well, it's another free audio book.
	It's called The Contagious Mind.
	I've heard of this.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And that's the website, thecontagiousmind.com.
	You can just download it.
	So you're familiar with the sweetener called xylitol?
	Yes.
	So today, you're probably familiar with it in its crystalline form.
	It looks like sugar.
	Well, xylitol, throughout all of human history, up until the 1940s, was liquid at room temperature throughout all of human history.
	Something changed in the 1940s, where simultaneously all around the world, all xylitol began to form solids at room temperature.
	And there is no rigorous scientific explanation for that that makes sense from Western science.
	But the explanation that does make sense is that, remember how I said earlier that even crystalline structures can demonstrate cognition or intelligence?
	What happened is simultaneously all over the world, the patterns of xylitol crystals changed in every lab and in every production facility.
	They had to rework all their production for xylitol.
	This also happened with specific drugs, pharmaceuticals that were being made, suddenly began to form solids in different labs, different places around the world.
	The explanation that makes sense is that xylitol crystals are tapping into morphic resonance, which is a cosmic repository of knowledge and habits of nature.
	This repository is also what human minds can tap into.
	And another way to look at this is to ask yourself, how do spiders learn how to build and repair spider webs?
	Do they go to spider web school?
	No.
	Are there genes that can be found in the spider that demonstrate web construction and web repair?
	Did you know that spider webs are built where the spokes of the webs are non-sticky?
	They are thick and they're the structural spokes that the spider crawls around on, but the thin strands that connect the spokes have the sticky substance and that's what catches the insects, right?
	Did you know that spiders will climb a tree and throw a web and let the wind blow it to a tree on the other side?
	It will crawl halfway across.
	It will connect.
	It will drop down to the ground and create an anchor point.
	It will climb back up the anchor point.
	Now it's got three points and now it will start building the web.
	And then if one anchor point is severed, it will go rebuild that anchor point and repair the web.
	Now, this is intelligent behavior by any measure.
	It never went to spider school.
	Okay?
	Never.
	Never happened, and it's not in the genetics.
	Where did the spider learn to do this?
	The answer is it's tapping into the morphic fields, which are part of the cosmos.
	These are patterns of nature that are passed down, or let's say you can tap into them.
	If you're born as a spider, you get access to the spider repository.
	Seriously.
	If you're born as a human, you get access to the human repository.
	Wow.
	This is such an important and powerful concept that Western science absolutely rejects, but it explains so much, even about our own knowledge.
	How do we learn to speak?
	How is it that our brains put words together and concepts together?
	And that we learn skills like imagining things in our minds or writing poetry or songs in our heads.
	We didn't actually learn that from an academic study.
	It came to us.
	Morphic resonance.
	Wow.
	That's a concept I've actually never heard before, this morphic resonance.
	I'm definitely going to look into that.
	But that definitely, that fills a lot of gaps and explains quite a bit.
	And I can totally see why mainstream science would reject it because it throws a wrench and the machinery of their whole profit syndicate trying to just keep us in the dark and deceived.
	And they don't want us to aspire to the divine at all.
	That is like, if there's a mission statement from these people, it's to prevent humanity from aspiring to and connecting with the divine.
	And what's even more fascinating about this, and I'll give you the title of a book to read on this.
	Sure, is that even in the Bible, they talk about the power of the spoken word.
	When you speak, you imprint the morphic fields.
	Okay.
	This is how you alter reality with your intention and your words.
	This is why prayer works, because you're altering the morphic fields.
	And the morphic fields are a cosmic internet of knowledge that can never be censored.
	And by simply speaking and doing, you are, in effect, indirectly sharing that knowledge with other people without them even knowing it, because the brain is both a transmitter and a receiver from the morphic fields.
	This is also known as the hundredth monkey concept.
	You've heard of that?
	I have heard of this, yes.
	Yeah, so that was based on these experiments, observations of monkeys on separated islands, where one monkey learned how to clean the sand off of potatoes by using water in a stream.
	Because, you know, you don't want to eat sand, but the potatoes are delicious if you're a monkey.
	So they learned to clean the potato off.
	And then this skill was shared among the local monkeys on that one island.
	And then as the observers noted, that once about 100 monkeys learned this skill, that skill instantly was transmitted to monkeys on other islands.
	They began to spontaneously wash their potatoes in the same way without ever having communication with the original monkeys.
	That's how advancement of knowledge actually works in human consciousness.
	Wow.
	These morphic resonance fields that are available to not only humans, but mammals, all classes of animals.
	Any conscious living system, which includes plants and animals.
	Plants tap into morphic fields as well.
	Wow.
	No, it makes it all makes sense, but it honestly just, it sounds very natural and believable.
	It doesn't like when you speak about these things.
	I've been listening to you because, again, I've not been familiar with this morphic resonance field thing, but it just, there's just no part of me is just like, has any kind of crazy defense mechanism?
	It just, no, it sounds like very like, of course, that's how it works.
	You know, it just sounds like that's great that you instantly see that.
	Yeah, it makes sense that it would be, God would create these unseen metaphysical fields of resonance that are all around us based on who He creates us to be, even if we're a spider or if we're a human being.
	Every creature has its, I guess, collective memory in a certain sense to pull from.
	Memory is passed down also through this process of morphic fields.
	Right.
	For example, in the 1990s, when Bill Clinton was president, they spent billions of dollars to scan the entire human genome.
	It was called the Human Genome Project.
	Right.
	And they thought that in the genome, they were going to find instructions for how to grow an arm and how to build organs in the body and even behavior.
	They thought they would find genes for how to learn language.
	Guess what they found?
	None of that.
	Nothing.
	None of that.
	All they found is basically protein synthesis genetic code, just builds proteins and a bunch of what they call junk DNA.
	So the human genome cannot describe even a human body, much less a human mind.
	That's a fact.
	Wow.
	And by the way, they also wanted to allow corporations to patent the entire human genome at that time.
	And Bill Clinton agreed with that and he pushed that, but there was so much pushback from the scientific community that they dropped that.
	That was the effort to own the entire human genome by corporations.
	Okay.
	Yeah, that's it.
	It's just like the worst Philip K. Dick, just nightmare scenario imaginable, patenting the human genome.
	But your DNA does not define your body, your mind, your behavior, any of it.
	It's mostly protein synthesis.
	So then where did you come from?
	How does, let me give you another one.
	And we're almost out of time.
	I apologize, but no problem.
	If you cut your skin, let's say, in an accident, how does your skin know to grow back just enough to repair the skin, but then to stop growing and not become a tumor?
	How does it know that?
	The answer is because in the morphic fields, there's a pattern of a human body.
	And your cells, even your liver, will grow back.
	If you lose a third of your liver, your liver will grow back.
	It will regenerate and grow the full liver back and then it will stop.
	Because if it didn't, that would kill you.
	It would be a liver cancer.
	Right.
	Correct?
	Right.
	Right.
	How does it know when to stop?
	Because there's a pattern of what the liver is supposed to be.
	You are actually infused with an energetic grid, a construct of what your body is supposed to be.
	And anytime you suffer an injury, your intelligence, your internal intelligence, goes to reconstructing to fill out the grid.
	And when it's done, it stops growing.
	That's how healing works.
	God is a brilliant artist, isn't he?
	Yes.
	That's what I take away from.
	Yes.
	It's just immaculate in its design.
	It's just, it's a beautiful experience to be a human and understand these things and just not be afraid of it.
	You know, it's just, it's all God's artistry.
	We are kept in a cognitive prison.
	All these ideas are, we are denied access to these ideas throughout all of history that we know.
	But that can change now through decentralized knowledge.
	And AI allows us to achieve that.
	And that's my goal: to share this knowledge and uplift humanity and set us free from our global prison, the prison planet.
	Exactly.
	Mike, I love it.
	I brought all these stacks.
	We covered some of it, but we had an amazing discussion here about AI, the future of humanity, the morphic fields.
	I learned quite a bit, actually, which is exactly what I set out to do in talking with you today.
	Please tell the people where people can find you and support your amazing work.
	Well, the best place to go is brightion.ai if you want to use all our free AI tools.
	And we have multiple tools there, including our book generator that's about to launch, plus our vaccine research tool, our AI model, and more.
	You can follow my work at brighteon.com, our video platform, or naturalnews.com, either one.
	And there's a lot, a lot of exciting things coming.
	Perfect.
	Perfect.
	Well, Mike, thank you very much for talking with me today, and I'll see you next time.
	Thank you, Reese.
	It's been a pleasure.
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