Restoring the Jesus Way: Ancient Wisdom for a Broken World
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The long story short is that Christianity became a religion about confessing and believing rather than following and obeying the commandments of Jesus.
And so we think a true Christian religion should be predicated solely and singularly on the teachings of the master.
The purpose of life is to develop our characters and to live more like Jesus.
And that is what Jesus taught us.
Judge and you will be judged.
Forgive and you will be forgiven.
Repent and God forgives you.
Love your neighbor as yourself.
Love God with all your heart.
And this fulfills the entire law.
And to carry that out through your actions, not just your words.
Welcome to today's interview here on Brighteon.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the Health Ranger.
We've got a special, very special setup here today.
We've reworked our studio for our special guests.
And it's just extraordinary they're able to join us here in person.
So we have Aaron Abke, who is, well, he's one of the two partners of the Jesus Way podcast, a very popular YouTube channel.
He does a ton of other work.
Welcome, Aaron.
It's great to have you here.
Great to be here, man.
And we've also got James Benefico, who I've interviewed previously, who's with organicmuscle.com and also on the Jesus Way podcast.
And let me just say up front that these two men are extraordinary individuals who have just an incredible desire to seek and share truth no matter what anybody else thinks.
They are driven, mission-driven to find the truth and share it with as many people who are ready to hear it.
And not everybody's ready to hear it.
And that's okay.
Everybody's on a different timeline.
But welcome to the show today, guys.
It's great to have the truth.
Great to be here, man.
Thanks so much for having us back again.
It's awesome to have you back.
And hey, can we show like, yeah, good, a wide shot?
So you see Awaken the Christ Within and everything.
We have been here filming for your docu series that you're releasing.
And that's why the studio is all decked out with all your graphics and everything.
It looks great.
Can you tell us about what you have coming up?
Yeah, so we're putting together a seven-day virtual summit called Awaken the Christ Within, Walking the Jesus Way.
And of course, it's largely based on our podcast theme, which I think we talked about this, if anyone watching saw our interview from months and months back, that the basic premise is like, you know, I grew up born-again Christian, third-generation pastor son.
I was a former pastor, got my bachelor's degree in theology.
I was all in for Christianity until I was about 23, 24.
And what happened for me was a big wake-up call when I got my first church job because my dad's church was very spirit-filled and free and all that stuff.
So we didn't talk about really any dogmatic stuff, the hellfire brimstone stuff.
And so I didn't have to wrestle with a lot of the dogmas of the Christian religion until I got my first full-time pastoral role.
And all of a sudden, you know, I'm just like a devout lover of Jesus.
I don't have a single memory of any point in my life where Jesus wasn't the fixture for me and my highest inspiration.
And so I'm used to my dad preaching sermons on Jesus, right?
And every single Sunday, I get off the stage after leading worship and it's open to Ephesians, open to Corinthians, open to Philemon, open to Philippians.
It's Paul, Paul.
And I have to confront a lot of these teachings from Paul that I'm like, this doesn't line up with what I know of Jesus.
And it started to drive me with deeper curiosity to start looking at the differences and studying the history of the Christian religion.
And so I did that.
And long story short, came to a very strong conclusion that the religion I was following was not actually the religion of Jesus, but a religion about Jesus by people who never met Jesus.
And so it's really, to me, it was more of Paulianity than Christianity.
This person who I think Paul was well-meaning and like, I don't demonize Paul as some kind of bad guy, but I think, you know, he was a Hellenistic Greco-Roman Jew from the diaspora who never met Jesus, who came from a very different culture.
And he weaved in a lot of middle-platonism and Hellenism into his understanding of Jesus and thus twisted and distorted the gospel message of Jesus.
And so the long story short is that Christianity became a religion about confessing and believing rather than following and obeying the commandments of Jesus.
And so we think a true Christian religion should be predicated solely and singularly on the teachings of the master, the gospel teachings of Jesus.
Judge and you will be judged.
Forgive and you will be forgiven.
Repent and God forgives you.
Love your neighbor as yourself.
Love God with all your heart.
And this fulfills the entire law.
And to carry that out through your actions, not just your words.
Exactly.
Critically.
You can't just say you believe it.
You've got to live it because Christianity will say, right, oh, you can't be saved by works.
You're saved by faith alone, apart from works.
That's what Paul said.
But Jesus said five times in the New Testament, I will judge every man according to their works.
And of course, faith is baked into works, right?
If you truly believe in Jesus, like truly, you will absolutely do the works of Jesus, right?
You will love your neighbor as yourself.
So we don't need to look at what do you say you believe.
It's like, that's not the most important thing.
How do you live and how do you obey and follow Jesus is what shows what you really believe.
And so we say, let's make that our emphasis.
And that's the premise of the Jesus Way podcast is almost like a Christian reform podcast of let's get back to the words of Jesus alone.
That issue is what brought us, the three of us, together, because that's how I found your channel and began listening and learning because our audience may or may not know, but you are such an academic scholar, researcher of the scripture and also the parts that you're not supposed to know about.
The, you know, the Apocrypha and all the hidden parts.
And of course, the early version of my AI model, I named it Enoch for a reason.
Nice.
But you have tremendous knowledge about scripture.
And that's how I connected with you was realizing that, wait a second, I'm being told by Christians who do not follow the way of Christ that they're going to be saved.
They're sure of it because they profess their belief that Christ died for our sins.
So they can go off and commit lots of sins.
Those sins have already been forgiven.
And there's something in my mind.
I was like, wait a second, this does not compute.
So, James, give us your take on all of this and what you do with the podcast and the channel.
Sure.
Thank you.
And first of all, thank you so much for having us here.
Thank you for all of the content we just filmed for the summit.
Everyone, Mike is just the coolest, most generous guy out there.
We're so blessed to call him a friend.
And all of you are blessed to watch Brighty On.
Yeah, indeed.
But for us, the Jesus Way, our goal is to help people heal their relationship with Christ and God because through everything we've discovered, everything we've researched, Judaism and Christianity have really distorted people's perceptions of the character of God.
That God is this wrathful deity that demands blood sacrifices to forgive his beloved children and sends people to hell for eternity.
And if you confess some statement, you go to heaven for eternity.
That's the entire purpose of the universe.
The Nicene Creed is what saves you.
Yes.
I mean, imagine what that does to people.
If you go to school and then, hey, if you say this thing, you get an A no matter what.
Imagine what those students are.
Imagine what those students are going to act like.
So we do not believe that's the purpose of life.
The purpose of life is to develop our characters and to live more like Jesus.
And that is what Jesus taught us.
So for context, we teach a lot about the history of Judaism and Christianity and how there was these different philosophies within Judaism.
We take a real historical look at it all and show that there was this evolution of consciousness through these groups known as the Pythagoreans, the Esseneans, which later became the Nazarenes, which were the first Christians.
And then this early Hebrew Christian group was basically wiped off the face of the earth, unfortunately, by the Roman Empire.
So we're trying to get back to the roots of the original Christian movement, what they believed, and how they lived.
I love the fact that both of you are also historians about this.
And you have brought to my consciousness so much powerful information, like the Gospel of Thomas, for example, which is just mind-blowing.
Incredible.
And just the parts of the Bible that are left out of the Western Christian Bible.
But the thing that got me into lots of trouble with other fellow Christians was when I started to ask about how were all these books of the New Testament actually written?
Who wrote them?
Who altered them?
What was the motivation to altering them and so on?
Because what I found out is that the minute you begin to question any word in the current, you know, New King James Version or whatever people are reading, you question one word, then people get angry, right?
So how is it that you work with that?
Because again, a lot of people say, this is the word of God.
This is the word of God, period.
But actually, it's the word of men and kings in some cases and emperors and so on.
And now, I mean, God is infused through much of it, but it's not strictly the word of God, is it?
What is it exactly?
How would you describe it, Aaron?
Yeah, yeah, it's the word of man across many eons of time about God.
And I think that's what makes the Bible so inspiring to study.
Like, we are absolutely in love with the Bible.
We've devoted much of our life to studying the Bible.
I've been reading the Bible since I was born, basically.
So I love the Bible, but let's be honest about what's really true because what is true really matters.
God is truth.
And so if something's not true, it is not of God to believe it.
And so I am more loyal to God than I am to my need for certainty or something like that, that I'm going to just accept all of these claims I can't possibly prove like God wrote the Bible.
So maybe there's some truth to that in that there's divine inspiration in the Bible without question.
I derive divine inspiration from the Bible every single day.
There are verses that I read every day that can move me to tears.
There is definitely divine inspiration in the Bible.
But does that automatically mean God has infringed on the free will of every human who's been involved with the Bible, scribe and author alike, to make sure they can never contaminate it or corrupt it with human error?
I don't think God does that.
I think we have proof that we live in a universe predicated on free will.
So even if God did write a book at some point, God would never stop humankind from tampering with it if they wanted to and force them to be righteous and keep his word intact.
This is such a petty and human-like projection of God.
God is way bigger than human language, way bigger than a book.
As we talked about in our previous session together, God is in nature.
God is encoded in everything around us.
So let's be willing to ask some tough questions.
Is there some human influence in the Bible?
Without question.
And so Christians will say, well, then how do you interpret the Bible?
How do you know what's from man or from God, right?
What's your litmus test?
What's your epistemic grounding?
How you interpret the Bible?
And they assume it's just, well, we just make it up.
Whatever feels good is what we, you know, that's what they go to.
We say, no, Jesus said when he was asked, teacher, what is the greatest commandment of all?
He said, oh, simple.
You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength and love your neighbor as yourself.
This commandment fulfills the entire Torah or law, which is the Bible, right?
So we do what Jesus said.
We use the golden rule axiom as our litmus test and standard of interpretation, such that we read the Bible.
And if any verse violates the golden rule, we reject it as a man-made verse, not a divinely inspired verse.
And when I say reject, I mean we don't say God wrote this.
We say, no, man wrote this.
And so there's a lot we can still learn from it.
This is the way ancient humans thought about God.
Go slay the Amalekites, the women and the children, kill everyone, leave nobody alive.
Do I think that was really God?
Of course not.
That's a wicked and demonic idea that is unworthy of the nature of God.
But I can still glean a lot from what ancient humans believed about God when they wrote that.
And all of it, this evolving narrative of humankind's understanding culminates in the Christ, the perfect demonstration, right, of what God is really like.
And so Jesus is the standard, not church fathers, not an ancient text, not what people wrote thousands of years ago.
Jesus was the blueprint for us.
And so we say, if you want to be a follower of Jesus, use his greatest commandment as the highest standard.
And everything else needs to fall beneath that.
Absolutely.
Wow.
I love your knowledge of this subject.
And aren't there very clear historical examples confirmed where I think 2 Peter might be one of them where it was not written by Peter.
Clearly.
Of course not.
So the church wrote this in the voice pretending to be Peter.
This is something when you read the Gospel of Thomas or any text outside of the canonical Bible, Christians will say, oh, well, that's a Gnostic forgery.
That's a fake text.
You know, that's not a real text.
And it's like, well, I hate to burst your bubble, but the New Testament is absolutely bursting at the seams with known forgeries.
There are no texts in the New Testament that any secular scholar thinks was written by one of the apostles.
The only actual texts written by the author they're purported to be written under are the Pauline epistles, the seven Pauline epistles.
There are seven what they call genuine letters of Paul and six that are later forgeries of people trying to use Paul to make new church doctrines and stuff.
And it's one of my favorite areas to study.
I'm studying it right now for my master's degree.
It's so much fun to unpack the truth behind the New Testament.
But like Christians will appeal to 2 Peter all the time because there's one passage where it speaks highly, it speaks well of Paul calling him a brother or something.
See, look, look, one of the disciples did approve of Paul.
And so I have to explain to them, 2 Peter is a known forgery from the middle second century.
Again, there are no scholars who think Peter wrote this.
In fact, Acts 4.13 says Peter and John were agrammatos, illiterate.
They could not read or write.
And this is a highly sophisticated Greek document.
Like whoever wrote 1 and 2 Peter was not illiterate.
It wasn't a peasant from Galilee.
It was a highly trained Greek scribe who was educated in this.
And so when you unpack these things, the whole idea that we have this infallible text written by the apostles about Jesus, this whole fantasy that Christianity is built upon unravels quickly.
And then it's like, what are you left with?
You have to be left with your actual connection to God.
Yes, that's the thing.
What I see both of you doing, you're not here to try to discredit the Bible.
You're here to transcend the human words and to really resonate with the teachings of God and Christ.
Right.
And you can't get stuck on some counterfeit translation here or there, whatever.
You teach and advocate and demonstrate the teachings that Christ taught and that God inspired us with.
And that's the critical part of this.
James, talk to us about how in your life, how do you work and strive to live what Christ taught?
Because that's where the rubber meets the road, is living it.
Well, you know, Christ just inspired me so much and totally changed the paradigm that I viewed life through.
You know, I had a series of really difficult experiences in my life that just totally shattered my soul.
And I was trying to pick up the pieces and figure out where to go from there.
And I've just found in the words of Jesus, I found the most beautiful spiritual philosophy I've ever seen in my life.
And that is why I accept Yeshua the Nazarene as the Messiah.
Not because someone told me to, not because there's a book and I believe everything that's in the book.
It's because reading the words of Yeshua, it became, I just became absolutely sure that this was written by a spiritual genius unlike the world had ever seen because I was able to weigh his words with logic, reason, with ontology, which we'll talk about and come to the conclusion that this is mastery of consciousness.
That's right.
You know, and that's why I can navigate this New Testament where there's forgeries.
And by the way, a forgery just means it was written by someone else than it claims to be written by.
It doesn't mean that everything in the book is fake or false or untrue.
It simply means attributed.
It's misattributed.
So I just want everyone to be clear on that.
But yeah, that's why I accept Yeshua and I follow him because his teachings, if enacted by humanity, will create the kingdom of heaven on earth.
I have no doubt about it.
Loving your enemies, treating people with kindness, compassion, self-auditing, repentance, all of these masterful parables, when meditated on make you a better person.
And that's why I accept him.
And tell us about your upcoming event.
Tell us about this event.
What day does it begin in December?
Just give us a brief overview and then I'll tell people how they can connect with it.
Yeah, the summit is December 3rd through the 8th.
It's a seven-day virtual summit.
We have like 30 some-odd guest speakers, you being one of them, of course.
And the purpose behind the summit, again, is there's been no question a real awakening to Christ, I think.
We kind of are like more in the new age scene, if you want to call it that.
Like here in Austin, like a lot of our friends are like spiritual enthusiasts, not Christian or religious.
We've seen a whole vast swath of them just like get magnetized to Jesus in the last year or so.
And they're like, I found Christ.
That's interesting.
But it's not necessarily a religious thing, but they're just getting drawn to the Christ, which I think is the divine essence in all of us, right?
Universal principles.
Yes, yes.
And then in religion, there's been a huge, especially since 2020 and all the pandemic stuff, there's been this massive awakening of people realizing the corruption of the world, getting very scared of it and saying, I need truth.
I need to feel connected to my creator.
And they only know how to go to religion for that.
And I think there's a lot of good people get from religion.
But what we want to do is to show people, we don't want everyone to just necessarily get sucked into more man-made institutions, but say, look, no problem if you want to go to church and all that or be Catholic or Eastern Orthodox, but make sure you are living the teachings of Jesus.
Make sure you are awakening the Christ within you, not just outsourcing to a priest or a bishop or a pastor to keep telling you what to believe.
Christ is an inner relationship with God, with the divine.
And how do you access that relationship?
By living it out through the teachings of Jesus, as James just explained to us.
And so a big part of our podcast is teaching people like the 10 axioms of the Jesus way.
We're going to be talking about that in the summit.
And we just have a bunch of guests, speakers, who we think all have really cool, unique gifts and angles and perspectives on Christ consciousness, how to awaken it and activate it through different texts, like A Course in Miracles and all kinds of stuff and biodynamic farming and health and nutrition.
So it's a big kind of smattering of different topics that all allow people to see this is the way that we can access more Christ in our life in all these different ways.
Love it.
I can't wait to hear the other guests of this program.
And folks, if you want to register for this, it's free.
It's free to register and watch it for free, correct?
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I think they're really critical for humanity.
And what's really, I think, so important right now is that this, you know, what Jesus taught, at least my understanding, part of what he taught, was that God is within you and all around you and that God is decentralized.
In other words, God is everywhere.
Yeah, there you go.
Right.
And what a lot of religious institutions have attempted to do throughout time is to re-centralize their authority and control over you in the name of God.
And I, as a freedom advocate and a philosophical free thinker myself, I, of course, I'm completely opposed to handing over your power to another institution that may or may not have your best interests at heart.
There's nothing wrong with going to church.
Again, you can build community.
You can have an important support structure for you and your friends and your family, for your children, homeschooling.
I'm a big advocate of that as well.
Same.
But I don't want you to surrender to another institution.
We already have too many institutions in society that want your power, that want you to bow down to them and worship them, like government or corporations or whatever, or the science.
So, James, what do you say about that, about Jesus's teachings on decentralization or really the universality of your connection to the divine?
Yeah, I don't think we should pass this off to any institution or any other person.
This is a very holy internal experience that is also enacted through our actions and relationships with others.
But if we look at the church during COVID and in the face of many different tragedies and deep state plans, it's become very apparent that these institutions serve the beast a lot of the time.
A lot of the time.
Not always, but they often do.
The larger ones be the worst.
Yeah, for sure.
We've seen it over and over again with all these different psyops that have been pulled on humanity.
Now, on the flip side, I have so many Christian friends who go to church and I've had beautiful experiences in church.
And there's a lot of good in mainstream Christianity, too.
We never want to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
All we're saying is that there's so much more here.
There's such a deeper.
We can improve.
We can improve.
We can do better.
And what we've uncovered is just so profound about the history of the Nazarenes.
And it really illuminates the way forward for all of humanity, explains why all this weird stuff is going on with certain religions in the world, the power structure.
We're able to understand it and how a lot of it comes back to this concept of blood sacrifice.
That this is the engine of the demonic to ask you about this.
And Aaron, I'm going to defer to you on this question too.
We'll come back, James.
But the Nazarenes did not teach animal sacrifice.
They believed in baptism, but not killing animals as an appeasement to God.
Can you please explain, because you have said this so eloquently in your podcast, the Jesus Way, can you explain why animal sacrifice is a violation of the core teachings of God and Christ?
Yeah, in every conceivable way it is.
And we had a podcast guest the other day talking about this, how blood sacrifice, animal sacrifice, is practiced in every single form of Satanism or occultism on earth.
In history, it is one of the primary ways to increase on the negative polarity is to take away life and use the blood as some kind of ritual to enhance oneself.
And so right away, if we're saying that the supreme, omnibenevolent Lord of the universe needs exactly what Satan needs, I think we're off track a little bit.
But then when you unpack the Hebrew Bible, you get these conflicting narratives.
And really, when you study the history of Judaism, one of the cool topics that you often bump into is this whole idea of the priests versus the prophets, that the Old Testament is really like a Jedi versus Sith story.
And you have to read through the lines because if you're enforcing this framework of the Bible's an errant imperfect, it's all written by God, you will absolutely not see it.
But when you're willing to question the narrative and say, wait, are there conflicting, competing narratives here?
And you're like, oh, of course there are.
All through the whole Old Testament, you've got the priestly source texts like Leviticus and so forth, commanding 613 purity laws and tons of animal sacrifice.
And then you have later the prophets just like angrily condemning animal sacrifice.
Even Jeremiah, who's one of the prophets Jesus is compared to by people when he asks, some say you're the prophet Jeremiah reincarnated, right?
Jeremiah was the most anti-sacrifice prophet.
And this kid was like 19, by the way, when he wrote his prophecies that we have in the book of Jeremiah.
Absolute spiritual badass.
But he said, Jeremiah 7, 21, he's speaking for God, God says, I did not command you animal sacrifices when I brought you out from Egypt through Moses, but this is what I commanded you.
Obey my word, be my people, and I will be your God.
You know, love justice, walk humbly, love mercy.
This is the desire of God.
I desire mercy, not sacrifice, the knowledge of God rather than burnt offerings, Hosea 6, 6.
And all through the Old Testament, you do not delight in sacrifice, or else I would give it.
It's like over and over again, you get this unequivocal no to sacrifice, yes to righteousness.
And so, Chris, here's where Christians get hung up is that they've been given this, they've been sort of given this narrative that they believe that, well, but nobody can be righteous perfectly.
And if you commit one sin, you're worthy of hellfire forever.
And this is kind of the question they beg to hold up their soteriology, right?
That God expects all of us to live perfect human lives without one mistake.
And if we make a mistake, we need a blood sacrifice to forgive us.
There is no such verse or even context of this anywhere in the Old Testament.
There is nowhere that Yahweh or God is quoted as saying, you have to live perfectly, blah, blah, blah.
It's always repent and God forgives you.
Repent with a humble heart.
That's what pleases the heart of God.
And God even says in the Old Testament, if you repent to me, I will wipe your sins out as if they never occurred.
I will cast them to the bottom of the ocean floor.
And as far as the east is from the west, so far have you removed our sins from us, Lord, through repentance and forgiveness.
And then this is the message of Jesus in the New Testament.
He shows up on the scene saying, repent and believe the good news, that God is here in our midst.
The kingdom of heaven is within you.
But you have to repent and humble yourself, right?
Turn from your wicked ways.
And so we see Jesus echoing the same message of the prophets in the Old Testament, but it was the priests who were corrupting God's law by introducing this pagan demonic practice of animal sacrifice.
And this is why Jesus gave his life for this cause by going into the temple in all four gospels to cleanse the temple, pronounce condemnation on all of it, release the animals from the cages, kick over the money changers' tables and say, you've turned my father's house into a den of murder, which he's quoting Jeremiah 7, 11 in that verse.
Not many people know this, Mike.
The verse in Jeremiah, you've turned my father's house into a den of thieves is what the Greek says.
But in Hebrew, the Hebrew word is paditz, which means violent ones or murderers.
And so you would only ever speak Hebrew in the temple.
And so Jesus was speaking to Hebrew to fellow Hebrews, and he was quoting Jeremiah 7, 11.
He would have said paditz, the actual word there.
You've turned my father's house into a den of murder.
So he's saying, this is not what God wants.
And he knew, I will give my life for this.
If I go into the temple and oppose this temple cult, they will crucify me.
And yet he said, yet I lay down my life freely for this cause.
That's extraordinary.
And I think it speaks to, you know, how would Jesus, if he were living today, how would he look at our economic system today that preys upon the lives and suffering of so many?
Because think about even in the temple, the priests were selling a proxy for salvation through the suffering and destruction of another conscious animal.
Yep.
I've called that a racket publicly, and some people are unhappy with that word.
Whatever.
It's a racket.
So to say, hey, I'm the priest in the temple.
You've committed horrible sins.
I'm going to have to kill a larger animal to trick God into thinking that you're innocent.
Like, what?
How does one negative offset another negative?
Yeah.
And if God knows everything, he already knows you're not, I mean, you're killing an animal that did not commit the sin.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That doesn't never made any sense to me.
Jesus said, you don't overcome evil with evil.
If I murder someone and have to go get my sins forgiven, I can't get my murderous sin forgiven by murdering an animal.
That's right.
You overcome evil with good.
Correct.
Forgiveness, righteousness, mercy.
This is the message of Jesus.
That's what I love about what you teach.
Go ahead.
Go ahead, James.
I was just going to say, you know, the second temple, this was like our friend Cam Waters, the director of Christpearecy, calls it the Death Star.
Think of an amalgamation of big pharma, the Vatican, the military-industrial complex, the IRS, everything.
They were in bed with Rome, and they were giving Rome a cut.
So you have the military-industrial complex, the war machine.
You have like the back to money laundering.
It's just like today, yeah.
Huge, selling salvation, which is like the most immoral thing I've ever heard of.
Which the Catholic Church also did later.
Yeah.
Right.
And Yeshua went in there and freed the animals and kicked over the tables of the money changers.
But why the money changers?
What were they exchanging money for?
They were selling the animals for salvation.
And Josephus talks about the scale.
I just want everyone to understand the scale of this death and bloodshed.
And the Talmud also says it was like they are exaggerating, but they say it was millions of animals.
But Josephus said it would be 250,000 animals in a week and that the blood would come up to the priest's shins.
So this is turning the holy temple of God into a sawmud.
Rivers of blood and suffering.
What an abomination.
No wonder.
Do you really think Yeshua would be in there?
And oh, you know, it's because they're exchanging money in the temple, or is it because innocent animals are being brutally killed under the context of forgiveness of sins?
It's an abomination.
And Yeshua gave his life opposing the system that has descended now into the controllers of the world.
The people who control Israel, the people who control the United States, the Vatican at the highest levels are the descendants of the people who ran the second temple, the temple cult.
And they're still steeped in a demonic high prophet death cult.
Even worse today, actually.
With the scale, there are more people to harm.
Yeah.
And Jesus said, it is written, my father's house was supposed to be called a house of worship and prayer for all nations.
So he's saying, look, guys, this is the temple of God, and it's supposed to be for the greatest, most positive possible things like prayer and worship.
And look what you've done to it.
You have turned my father's house into a den of murder and violence.
What greater grievance could you do, right?
And this is why the Essene type of Judaism broke off from orthodoxy in the temple cult hundreds of years before Jesus.
And Jesus clearly emerged from this Essene type of Judaism and the whole Jesus movement did, because the Essenes also rejected the temple for all the same reasons and because they believed that the Torah was corrupted by these priests over hundreds of years.
I mean, the book of Leviticus, I don't know if people know this, but the book of Leviticus was written about at least five centuries after Moses, and yet it's purported to be Moses saying all these things.
It's like, this is a lie.
Moses did not say any of this stuff.
This is a Ponzi scheme, a prophet scheme being weaved into the Bible in ancient times.
And because we don't question the human traditions, we say, oh, it's all perfect and it's all God, then we miss these obvious corruptions of what was once a holy book.
And so Moses brought down, as we know, 10 commandments from Mount Sinai, just 10, not 613 on 50 stone tablets, just two tablets, the 10 commandments.
There's been some effort.
Yeah, we'd have taken a couple Moseses for that.
And so where do we get all these 600 laws from?
And so when Jesus is asked, what must I do, good teacher, to inherit eternal life?
He literally says, keep the commandments.
And he doesn't list off 613.
He lists off actually the five love your neighbor commandments, which is the second half of the 10.
And he says, and chief of all, or what they're all summarized in is love your neighbor as yourself.
So Jesus clearly believed there was a core of Mosaic law that was original, that was given by God, that is good for humanity.
And he rejected the people who followed the other 600 BS laws that were man-made.
And so it's like we're kind of doing the same thing now, saying, look, there's a core of truth and goodness in this book, in this New Testament, but man has corrupted it and weaponized it for centralizing power, religious power, over the last 2,000 years.
And we've got to start unraveling this behemoth that's been created.
Okay, extraordinary.
I want to remind our viewers that this docu series called Awaken the Christ Within begins December 3rd, did you say?
Yes.
Okay, December 3rd.
And you can find a link to it at rangerdeals.com.
It'll be right there on top.
Just click in.
I think people have to register to watch it.
And one, is it an episode each day or a couple of episodes each day?
No, I think it'll be like 34 a day.
Yeah.
So it's a loaded schedule.
Tune in, man.
I can't wait.
I can't wait to hear from all these experts.
But last question for you for this interview.
And I mean, this might be controversial, but what else?
Good.
It's never controversial.
I see in especially conservative politics in America right now, I see a very deliberate push for anti-Islam hatred.
And my red flags go up.
Like, who wants us to hate followers of Islam right now for whatever reason?
Because I don't buy into that at all.
I don't hate Buddhists, Sikhs, atheists.
I don't hate Islam.
I don't hate Christians.
I love all human beings as brothers and sisters.
We are all of God's children.
Amen.
Right.
What is going on with, you know, what forces are behind this that want us to hate people because of their faith?
Because their faith is different from your faith.
That's not a Jesus way to hate Islam.
Right.
Right?
Yeah, it's very interesting.
It all goes back to divide and conquer, which this tactic is used repeatedly and over and over.
And I mean, the Persian people, for instance, have been so demonized, right, in America.
Yeah.
And from all of my personal experiences and from people I know, they are the most remarkable, kind, beautiful people.
Of course, there's an extremist there.
We all understand that in every society, there's extremists.
Every society.
But they just want to divide us.
And honestly, Islam has many parallels with the early Christian movements.
If you want to get into some of that.
Yeah.
Well, this is the funny thing, man, is when we started studying early Christianity, we found out about the Nazarene history and we're like, whoa, mind blown, right?
And Jesus came from this sect.
And then the Roman Catholic Church basically borrowed this.
you know, Jewish reform movement, which was what the Jesus movement was.
They weren't trying to start a new religion, right?
Jesus was trying to reform his own religion and weave out the corruption in it.
And it got turned through Paul's teachings primarily and the development of Gnosticism and things into this new Greco-Roman kind of mystery religion about confessing and believing and a second coming that's soon to be and all these things.
Jesus didn't teach any of this stuff, right?
He was talking about a right now kingdom of heaven among us and bringing it right now, not waiting someday for it to come from the skies.
And so in studying this, we found a thread that's pretty amazing, which is that Islam, scholars who study this show with pretty convincing evidence that Islam literally is Jewish Christianity just kind of morphed a few centuries later because of the way they were so heavily persecuted by the Roman Catholic Empire and church.
They literally made Nazarene Christianity illegal in Rome in the fourth century under Pope Damasus.
And if you were found with Nazarene texts, they called it Judaizing, right?
You can't Judaize Christianity.
It's like, well, but it was a Jewish movement from the beginning.
And so Nazarenism was a form of Jewish Christianity.
So you would have all your property seized from you and they would even execute you in some cases, right?
So the Nazarenes had to flee all of the Roman jurisdiction territories and they went into Arabia and Syria and east of the Transjordan.
And centuries and centuries later, a guy named Prophet Muhammad comes along and he was pretty much an Ebionite for all intents of purposes.
Ebionites was one of the Jewish Christian sects that lasted for many centuries.
And he has this revelation and then this new kind of religion forms off of it.
But when you look at the core tenets of Islam, it's like early Jewish Christianity would have looked very similar to what we now know today as Islam, truly monotheistic, unlike the Catholic Church with its polytheistic Trinitarian doctrines, right?
No, no, no, there's one God, one being, one nature, and it's all about following God's commandments, living righteously, pleasing God with your life is how you show you have faith in God.
And that's what the Jewish Christians believed.
And so scholars show these links, which are pretty remarkable, that Islam is the result of Catholic persecution against the early Jewish Christians.
Fascinating.
They absorbed these Ebionite ideas up.
And then they there.
So you still have some of these core Nazarene ideas in Islam.
However, Islam has diverted in some significant ways.
For instance, the Nazarenes were strict pacifists.
Strict.
They had a refused to bear arms.
Refused to bear arms, refused to participate in militaries.
Obviously, Islam, at least mainstream Islam, has diverted from that.
But again, mostly because of the persecution from the Catholic Church and the Roman Empire, like fighting these people for so long kind of made them militaristic.
Maybe.
And I think in the beginning, they were much more pacifistic.
I'm a passive fist, but I carry a gun because of the threats.
I mean, but I'm not going out to instigate violence.
Right.
If someone brings it to me, I'm going to stop it.
Self-defense.
Totally.
I mean, but I'm not a gun nut kind of, I mean, I wouldn't describe myself in that way.
Although I probably own a lot of people.
You're not going out looking for gunfights.
I'm not looking for gunfights.
But I'm wearing one right now.
Yeah.
You know, we're happy you are.
While we're talking about Jesus.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, I didn't mean to cut you off.
Was there anything else to finish up that?
No, I was just going to say it's interesting.
Like many of these things, we're trying to get back to the core because all of these religions, Judaism, Judaism's been stolen.
It's a big time.
It's been diverted into a blood sacrifice cult.
Whereas the core of the original Essene type of Judaism was strictly a beautiful, holy thing about it was the same thing as Nazarene Christianity, essentially, the same core components.
So we're trying to reform Judaism and Christianity.
It's a bold statement, but it's what's on our heart to do because so many of the wars, the power struggles, all the manipulation and corruption in the world stems back to this conflict that's going been going on for thousands of years from the time of ancient Judea and Palestine and the civil war in Judaism.
Well, last thing I'll say on that is we have a number of scholars in the summit, one of which is a good friend of ours, Dr. James Tabor, who I think is the greatest New Testament scholar alive.
I've heard his interviews with you.
Yeah.
Amazing.
He's remarkable.
And he wrote a book called Restoring Abrahamic Faith, which we did a podcast with him about.
And it's an amazing book.
If you want to get to the core of what we're talking about and say, what was the original form of Judaism as given through Moses, right?
Before it was corrupted.
And he pulls this out, showing that in the Hebrew Bible, there is this theme that repeats all throughout, which is called the way of Yehovah or the way of Yahweh, the way of the Lord, in other words.
And it is always succinctly defined in the same way.
It's to do zadaka and mishpat, justice and righteousness.
And this was the only like soteriological requirement of the religion, is what he's showing, right?
Do justice and righteousness, live righteously, be a good person, follow God.
And that's the perfect type of religion.
You can't improve on that.
And so all we can do is delete all the things that have come after that and corrupted it and contaminated it and get back to the original way.
But we're not inventing something new.
We're not starting something that hasn't been started before.
Like we're trying to get back to the original teachings of Moses, which Jesus was a prophet like Moses, they say, right?
It's there's only one religion, which is to love your neighbor as yourself, to do justice and righteousness.
And I think all world religions essentially teach that same golden thread.
Absolutely.
Wow.
Okay.
What a fascinating discussion.
I've got one more thing to show you before we wrap this up.
But let me remind people again: your event starts December 3rd.
And folks, you can sign up for it.
You can find the link at rangerdeals.com and it's free to watch.
You're going to learn a tremendous amount of information.
But I was just thinking as you're speaking there, I need to grab something off the wall right there.
I want to show you this and what this has to do with everything we're talking about here.
So hold on a second.
Sure.
All right.
So go ahead and show that.
Yeah.
So this symbol, sometimes maybe some Christians might have a problem with this symbol because it seems to resemble like a mandala of Buddhism.
But what this symbol actually represents to me is: have you ever used the human voice through a semoscope in order to visualize the human voice?
And that science is called cymatics, right?
You've seen like the sand on a vibration plate.
This is one of the patterns, or it's inspired by the pattern, of human voice creating physical manifestation through the word.
So to me, this image is the spoken word that, through the power of God's creation that is infused in each and every one of us, allows our words and thoughts to change the world around us.
So profound.
It looks like creation, you know?
Looks like creation.
It does.
Yeah.
So each and every one of us has this incredible power to co-create in the world through our voices.
And you can go ahead and set it down.
I mean, thanks for holding.
I gave you a whole new task.
I didn't sign up for that task, but there it is.
Each and every one of us has the power to create because God has given us a little sliver of his ultra power.
We have a little bit of that in each and every one of us, the power to create through our words, through our thoughts, and through our actions.
And that's what I love about what you guys do is it's all high integrity.
You're living, speaking, acting, and teaching in full alignment.
It's not like an institution that tells you one thing, but then the pastor is doing crack and banging hookers out behind the church, right?
With your donation money.
Yeah, with your tithe and offerings.
Yeah, right.
So I love the fact that you're fully congruent in what you're teaching and doing.
And just want to thank you for your time today.
Do you have any final thoughts?
Yeah, I do, actually.
I'm glad you asked because I want to double-click on that again.
This is another one of the kind of Christian misunderstandings that are given in church and espoused from the pulpit a lot.
Whenever you talk about righteousness through good works, basically whenever Jesus' gospel gets brought up and instead of Paul's, it's like, well, but remember, yeah, good works are good, but you can't be righteous of your own accord because you're inherently evil and totally depraved.
And you know what?
I actually agree with that in a certain sense.
You, the ego, right?
The false persona, the human self who thinks you're separate from God.
Yeah, that's totally depraved.
There's no truth or life in it.
So as an ego that believes it's separate from God and needs to fight to get to the top and judge other people and all this stuff, yeah, yeah, that can't be righteous.
But that's not what we're claiming we are.
We are the Christ.
We are the divine essence, the indwelling ruach, the breath, the spirit of God that animates every living being, even in Acts 17, 24.
In him we live, we move, and have our being.
Our ontology is defined under God.
And so if God is in me, then all righteousness is within me and I can call upon it.
And it's not my righteousness.
I'm not being righteous under my own personal Aaron's strength.
It's the righteousness of Christ in me that I call upon.
And when I love God with all my heart and love my neighbor as myself, the Holy Spirit infuses me to be a manifestation of God's righteousness through me.
That's what Jesus was.
And Jesus said, follow me, be imitators of me.
So that's what real righteousness is.
And why I think teaching people that you can't be righteous, so all you can do is confess and believe in a savior is doing them a great disservice and injustice.
And it's neutering God.
It's neutering the power of God.
God is dead.
That's right.
That's right.
That is all powerful.
And we're exalting this soteriology, this philosophy exalts God to the highest level.
God is here with us right now.
God is animating every single cell of our being.
Literally, nothing is possible without the power of God.
We're just recognizing that.
We're not with God in every thought that comes to our mind.
Every sentence that we are constructing that we are sharing with each other is inspired by God.
I can't even tell you how many times I've been recording a podcast and my own conscious awareness fades away and it just becomes like God speaking.
We've all experienced a flow state.
Science can't explain that.
How does that happen?
Yeah.
So anyway, it's incredible.
We're going to wrap this up.
I just want to thank you for your time today.
Thank you for putting together this incredible event that people can really benefit from.
And I just want to say thank you because I think one of the reasons that so much of, say, Gen Z is embracing Christ is because of the efforts of people like you who are helping to sort of reform the understanding of what is Christ.
It's not the old, you know, the church institution that wants you to bow down and believe everything the priest tells you and you can't talk to God yourself.
You have to go through them.
This is a whole new revelation that you are sharing with the world.
And I think you're doing a great job.
So, thank you for your time.
Thanks so much.
We appreciate you so much.
Thank you.
Yeah.
And thank all of you for watching today.
Mike Adams here of Brighteon.com.
And of course, go to rangerdeals.com to find the link for this upcoming event that I will be watching.
And I think you will also very much appreciate this event.
So thank you all for being here with us today.
And hope you enjoy the new set.
All decked out the Jesus way.
It's all kinds of awesome.
It's a vibe.
So thanks for joining us.
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