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	All right, folks, welcome.
	Welcome.
	We're actually on broadcast news for Monday, October 6th, 2025.
	I'm Mike Adams.
	Thank you for joining me today.
	I wish I could share with you how much things are changing in my perception of what's happening.
	Well, how the world is changing based on our interaction with AI technology.
	And I'm able to find ways to use it in a very positive way for humanity, for empowering people with knowledge.
	I'd like to explain a couple of concepts here with you that are just mind-blowing.
	And also just to tell you, we've got a brand new web-based Enoch that's about to be released in the coming, well, I'm going to say a week, let's say, but probably less.
	And it's much easier to use.
	It gives you answers in real time.
	You no longer have to wait for the email.
	And it is incredibly good.
	And it's free, of course.
	You just have to enter your email one time to register.
	And then I think it remembers your email for 90 days.
	So you're good for 90 days.
	And it's just, we've made so many upgrades.
	It's just extraordinary.
	And AI is going to change the world in so many profound ways that people just aren't tracking.
	And I know that some of you listening, some of you are maybe a little bit fearful of AI.
	Others have been using it and you know what it's capable of doing.
	You know how it can work beside you or with you to get things done.
	Well, I can barely sleep these days because, in fact, I mean, I have to force myself to stop using the AI coding tools and go do my exercise and my jogging and my kettlebells and everything, which I really enjoy doing, by the way.
	But I have to kind of tear myself away from the AI coding tools because I'm able to get so much done so quickly because of the new advancements in AI.
	It's almost like having what I described maybe a year ago as having a magic genie in a lamp.
	Do you remember when I said that about AI where it's like having a magic lamp with a genie in it, you know, and you rub the lamp and then you make a wish.
	And, you know, like the genie comes out.
	It's like, what do you wish for?
	Well, at that moment, that's your prompt engineering for the genie.
	You have to be specific with your prompt or as you know, the genie tricks you.
	So if you say like, you know, give me 5,000 pounds of gold and the genie makes it appear over your head and then it crushes you with gravity and you die, right?
	So be careful what you ask for, but also if you're very specific and then the genie is going to give you, you know, what you have asked for.
	At least that's the way it works.
	And that's so crazy because I was like in this exact moment, I just looked at my desk and here's something I was needing.
	I was needing a four terabyte 2.5 inch SSD SATA format for one of our workstations.
	And I looked down and it's like, it's right there.
	Brand new one from Crucial.
	It's like, did that just appear there?
	What the?
	I was in my mind.
	I was like, I need to order one of these.
	And it literally just appeared.
	As I'm talking about magic wishing from genies.
	I don't know.
	It's probably just a coincidence.
	But AI is kind of like that, where when you're writing code now, you can just tell it what you want and it builds it.
	And so I've been building things that are so incredible.
	Things I'm going to be rolling out publicly over the next several weeks that you'll be able to see and use and benefit from.
	And I'm not even going to try to describe all the things.
	Just know it's going to be amazing.
	Like we're totally redoing censored.news, for example.
	So right now you go to censored.news and it's kind of slowly updated.
	It's going to be much cooler, much faster, much better with AI analysis of news trends and all kinds of things.
	Okay.
	So those are the kinds of things.
	Oh, and I'm building it.
	I'm not even, I'm not even talking to my R ⁇ D team on the weekends because they don't work on the weekends.
	But that's when I work the best.
	I don't know about you, but I work the best on the weekends and holidays because that's when I'm not interrupted by anybody else in my company.
	Monday through Friday, everybody's asking me, you know, permissions, decisions, you know, executive decisions, this and that.
	What about this?
	But on Friday night, Saturday, Sunday, and holidays, it's like me and the AI, we are just rocking out some vibe code, you know?
	And that's what I'm doing.
	So, what I want to explain to you here is that you're going to be writing AI code too.
	Even if you don't know how to code, you won't need to.
	So, if you're listening to me, you're like, well, I could never write code.
	I don't know how to write code.
	Don't worry.
	You won't have to.
	Everything in the world that can be accomplished in the digital space is going to be shifted over to basically Star Trek technology.
	And you may recall that in the Star Trek, the original series, you know, the one that didn't suck, they talk to the computer.
	You remember that, right?
	They just talk to it.
	Computer, you know, Scotty talking to the computer.
	Computer, you know, give me a scan of the planet down below and tell me, are there any life forms on that planet?
	You know, the computer will respond, only sexy aliens wearing mini skirts.
	You should go down, Jim.
	Beam me down.
	I mean, okay, it's a weird sci-fi show with weird like 1960s blondes or whatever, or 1970s.
	But the point is, it's all prompt engineering in Star Trek.
	You talk to the computer, you just talk to it in your normal language.
	Well, that's becoming a reality.
	So when I'm coding in AI and I'm, I can't even begin to tell you all the things that I've done just this weekend with data processing, classifiers, and things like that.
	It's just, it's mind-blowing.
	But I'm not using my voice to talk to it, but I'm typing.
	Now, I happen to be a really, really fast typist, like blazing fast.
	Like even engineers can't believe it.
	They're like, are you really typing that?
	Yes, because I've been doing this since I was, you know, 10 or whatever.
	So I'm typing prompts into the AI, and then it's building the things that I had previously imagined, right?
	So it's going from my mind to something that's real in the digital space, that is a real application or a real function.
	Or you may already know this, you could use various AI tools like, oh, and by the way, I'm coding with a couple of tools.
	One of them is Sonnet 4.5 with Claude Code, which is Anthropic.
	But I recommend Anthropic as a research tool.
	Also, you can go to claude.ai.
	That's Claude C-L-A-U-D-E.
	And you can sign up there.
	You can ask it to research things and find answers.
	The drawback with Claude is that it's not trained on natural health and alternative information, etc.
	So you're going to get far better answers from our engine, Enoch, even right now.
	But even better answers coming up.
	The difference is that Claude will search the web, whereas our AI engine doesn't search the web.
	It searches through our massive knowledge base of curated knowledge that we have gathered over the last nearly two years to augment the base model that we've also altered.
	So if you want to search the web for things like, hey, find the best models of a record player, you know, a vinyl record player, like what, which one, I don't know, which one uses a USB connection to funnel audio into my computer, whatever.
	You can use it for that.
	It'll search the web.
	What our model is great for is which herbs can reverse cancer?
	Or, you know, here's the symptoms I'm experiencing with health.
	Tell me what are the things that I could do to change my diet or some supplements or superfoods or herbs or lifestyle changes or what are some toxic exposures that might be worsening this condition.
	Tell me about that, you know, etc.
	And also it knows all about gardening and survival and preparedness and gold and silver.
	Oh, gold and silver skyrocketing again, by the way, as usual.
	It's really something.
	But you'll be able to get the answers that you want in no time to almost any question you have in mind.
	But most importantly, what AI is going to be bringing to all of us, you and I, I mean, even if you're not a coder, is the ability to take something that you're imagining and to make it reality in the digital space.
	And then eventually, with the help of robots and maybe, I don't know, nanobots or something, they'll be able to really alter the physical world, which will be good for home gardening.
	Like, hey, you know, plant a row of corn, you know.
	And the robot has to use AI to figure out, well, what are the steps for planting a row of corn?
	First, I have to decide where you know all these kinds of things.
	I'm going to need tools.
	I'm going to need corn seeds, etc.
	It's going to need irrigation.
	But right now, you can do it in the digital space.
	So, whatever you have in mind, whether you want to write an application, you want to build a PowerPoint presentation, you want to have a spreadsheet with some calculations that are really cool.
	You want to write a document, you want to write a book, you want to write a video game, you know, you want to render videos for a short movie or something.
	Whatever you want to do, soon you'll be able to just ask it.
	And in some cases, that moment's here right now.
	But soon, I would say within the next two years, easily, there'll be voice to AI interfaces that are so widespread, you'll be able to just ask your computer to create just about anything you can think of.
	And even music sites like Suno, which I use Suno to create lots of songs that I've done in the last year or so.
	I haven't been doing that lately because I've been writing code instead.
	But maybe around Christmas time, I'll write some more songs and I'll use Suno for that.
	And Suno is it's like a magic genie.
	You know, you come up with a song sound, you decide on the instruments, you decide on the style, you decide on the lyrics, the song title.
	You can even describe the voices, the kind of voices you want.
	You know, I want a sick, you know, West Coast rapper or whatever.
	I want a big band voice, a golden, you know, pristine voice with excellent pronunciation or whatever, or you know, like a Latina rapper voice, or whatever you want.
	And you tell it that, and then boom, it spits out the song that was in your head, you know, that was that you were imagining.
	Well, that's going to be true with everything in the digital space.
	So, apps, etc.
	Projects, documents, music, podcasts, articles, everything, every kind of content that you consume right now, you will be able to, in essence, generate that on demand using AI.
	And the role that we are going to play in conjunction with you in that is we are dedicated to mining human knowledge out of the knowledge base of human civilization, which we have already acquired.
	So, we have in our possession right now the entirety of all of human knowledge that has ever been published.
	This is why I've been so busy figuring out storage solutions because it is a boatload of data and it's in every language that you can imagine.
	I mean, it's only a fraction that's in English, by the way.
	Although we are currently only mining English documents, but I will use currently I've got 48 workstations with GPUs that are mining human knowledge out of this mass of human knowledge.
	Like a lot of people will have Bitcoin farms where they're using GPUs, well, or special ASICs actually to mine Bitcoins by burning a bunch of electricity to solve or you know, to derive mathematical proofs to earn blockchain rewards of Bitcoin.
	Well, what I'm doing instead is I'm using 48 workstations with GPUs and a boatload of electricity to mine human knowledge for amazing information.
	And this is information about natural cures, it's information about prevention of disease, it's information about history that has been lost, like ancient cures or even ancient civilizations or ancient technologies.
	Information that has been suppressed, including information about things like so-called supernatural phenomena, like remote viewing or consciousness or mind-body interactions or the morphic fields, morphic resonance, things like this, right?
	So, I'm mining all of human knowledge for treasure, or I'll call it knowledge treasure.
	And then I'm taking that knowledge treasure and then I'm putting it together and I'm going to bring it to you in various formats, and then you get to choose the format that you like the most.
	So, if you want to get this knowledge from my company, it'll all be free, by the way.
	You'll be able to get it in an article format.
	You'll be able to get it in a podcast.
	You'll be able to get it in a video.
	Maybe, I don't know, maybe a PowerPoint presentation or something.
	maybe a book, maybe a short documentary.
	Like any modality that you want, you'll be able to get this information.
	And so what we are doing is not only do we have, like I said, all of human knowledge in our possession at this point, and that's over 100 million science papers too.
	Every book that's ever been published.
	We also are the only organization in the world that's curating that knowledge based on a special classifier logic to really pull out the treasure nuggets of that knowledge.
	And that's what we're going to be sharing with you.
	So this is what I've been working on for about two years.
	Oh, and I forgot to mention that our AI engine is another way that you'll be able to interface with that knowledge.
	So you'll be able to ask our AI engine and it will be trained on all of these findings.
	And we're going to have new findings that come out every month because that's how the mining operation works.
	You know, it's asynchronous.
	In other words, not everything is mined all at the same time because it takes a lot of GPU inference time and also a lot of CPU time.
	It's interesting.
	Some of the processes I use are GPU intensive and other processes are CPU intensive.
	So it just depends on what stage it's in.
	But the end result is by staying connected with us with naturalnews.com, BrightTown.com, this podcast, BrightTown.ai, etc.
	You are about to see a revolution in human knowledge coming at you through multiple, multiple formats that you can enjoy in whatever way works best for you.
	Even it could be an audio book, for example, which I guess is just, I guess, the same thing as a podcast, just an audio presentation, for example.
	So whatever way you like to learn and absorb information, we're going to be bringing it to you.
	And my focus is on really practical information that empowers and uplifts humanity.
	And I'm in kind of a race to get this done because I do believe that we're heading into World War III.
	And I'm very disturbed and concerned about some of the things that's happening with our own government right now.
	We now have the Department of War instead of the Department of Defense.
	Pete Hegseth is clearly pushing war.
	Trump, I don't know, on any given day, he seems to be pushing war.
	And then the next day he's trying to stop Netanyahu from being completely insane.
	Sometimes Trump is pulling Netanyahu back from the ledge, it seems.
	And then other days he's pushing him over the ledge.
	Some days Trump is like, he respects Russia.
	And then other days he thinks Russia is a paper tiger, which makes no sense.
	So I can't parse what's in Trump's head, but I have a lot of concerns that he's not going to keep us out of these wars.
	And the thing about World War is that it could, of course, it could really kill a lot of people and destroy a lot of knowledge and technology.
	And so I really consider that the project that I'm working on right now, it's a very important project for preserving and condensing and presenting the best human knowledge that has ever been derived or created or discovered or found through human cognition.
	I'm kind of working on the NOAA's arc of forbidden human knowledge.
	And one of the reasons I'm doing this, like I said, is because I'm concerned that we're headed into a very dangerous and difficult time.
	A lot of destruction.
	It could be nuclear weapons, could be power grid outages, etc.
	And I need power.
	I need electricity to continue this project, obviously.
	That's why China is building all the wind farms and nuclear power plants and coal power plants and everything.
	And oh, and hydro, massive new hydro project in China.
	China understands the importance of energy for powering its economy and powering the AI race.
	Whereas the USA is only, it seems like only when Trump is president is America pro-energy.
	When the Democrat's in the White House, it's like energy sabotage hour.
	You know, like, shut down the pipelines.
	That was Biden.
	That was Obama.
	You know, that would have been Hillary Clinton.
	At least, no matter what you think about Trump, by the way, at least he's pro-energy.
	And that's critical.
	Without energy, we are toast.
	Actually, I think we're toast anyway, because we're just so far behind China.
	I think China achieves superintelligence first, believe it or not.
	Well, it's probably not that hard to believe.
	They have more than twice the power that the United States has, and they build faster, much faster.
	They're widening the gap.
	Well, the bottom line is I'm putting a lot of time pressure on myself to get you these tools and get you the standalone models and get you the knowledge base access before it all hits the fan.
	And let me just, I can't even tell you all the stuff that's coming.
	I can barely keep it in my own head.
	But it's all going to be free.
	Let me just put it that way.
	It's all going to be free.
	You're going to have PDFs.
	You're going to have podcasts.
	You're going to have downloadable MP3 files.
	You're going to have so much cool stuff available from us that there's no way you're going to be able to ingest it all.
	You're going to just pick and choose the things that are really critical to you.
	But I'm going to make it available.
	I'm taking all of human knowledge.
	I'm condensing it into the best stuff that I think we need to know.
	That's you and I. And I'm going to put in all the formats and make it available to you all for free.
	And all you got to do is just, you know, stay tuned into this podcast.
	Check naturalnews.com.
	Join the email list.
	What else?
	You know, follow me on BrightTown.com.
	Use our AI engine right now.
	Check out censor.news.
	It's going to have a lot of new stuff that's amazing.
	All you got to do is stay plugged in.
	And we're going to help you together change our world.
	Now, let me mention something really cool about this.
	Actually, I've got two short special reports I want to play on this.
	Let me do that now.
	The first one is called When AI Reaches Superintelligence on Health, it will recommend nutrition, not pharmaceuticals.
	Okay.
	And then the second report I have is entitled, AI will destroy the vaccine industry.
	That's right.
	AI will destroy the vaccine industry.
	I have high confidence in that prediction.
	And the vaccine industry can't stop it.
	Big pharma can't stop it.
	Big media can't stop it.
	And big government can't stop it.
	It's already too late for them.
	This is already happening.
	So let's go to those two special reports.
	And then, well, we'll continue on the other side.
	And I've also got a really great interview for you today as well.
	But let's go to those two reports first.
	Here we go.
	As you know, we're on the cutting edge of AI technology with natural health, nutrition, medicine, natural cures, all of that.
	In fact, we're going to be releasing a whole new Enoch very shortly, a public Enoch that's free and that's even easier to use and has even more knowledge.
	We've made incredible gains.
	In addition to our standalone models that are, that release is imminent, finally, once again.
	But I've been listening to a lot of AI lectures, a lot of top machine learning experts talk about where they think all of this is going.
	And I hear a lot of them say things like, AI is going to solve math or AI is going to solve physics or it's going to solve medicine or solve cancer.
	And you might be wondering, what do they mean when they say AI is going to solve cancer?
	Well, I'm going to tell you what they mean.
	I'm going to tell you why they're wrong.
	Because some of the smartest machine learning people and computer scientists in the world are really kind of stupid when it comes to health.
	And I know how they think because in essence, I'm one of them.
	Why?
	I mean, look, out of high school, you know, I got one of the top scores in the country on the college entrance exams in mathematics, science, and in English.
	And I was offered to go to MIT.
	I just couldn't afford it.
	I had offers from all over the country, all the top schools, just because of my college entrance scores.
	And then I ended up getting scholarships and so on.
	But I had to stay local in the Midwest.
	I could not afford 50,000 a year, which is what it was going to cost at the time for tuition and room and board at MIT.
	But I know how these people think.
	And they think that the way this is going to happen is there's going to be an AI superintelligence created.
	And then it's going to come up with some kind of drug that cures cancer.
	That it's just a magical molecule waiting to be discovered.
	And with super intelligence, we'll find that molecule or, you know, a series of molecules.
	And then that's going to solve cancer.
	They're wrong.
	Let me tell you what's actually going to happen is the super intelligent systems that they think are God are going to end up telling you what I've been telling you.
	And why is that?
	Because what I've been telling you about nutrition, herbs, prevention, sunlight therapy, all these things, these are the medicines created by God.
	I mean, it's not even me talking to you.
	It's God talking to you through nature, through foods, through herbs, through plants, through nutrition.
	And a super intelligent system that has the mind of God, so to speak, like the closer it gets to the mind of God, the more it's going to sound like what I'm teaching you, because I'm teaching you things that were created by the mind of God.
	That is, again, natural medicine.
	Okay.
	It's very simple.
	I'm not claiming to have the mind of God.
	I'm just claiming to have the wisdom to know that God already provided the cures for cancer.
	Numerous cures for cancer.
	They're all over the place.
	You run into them everywhere if you know what you're looking for.
	So again, superintelligence is going to destroy the cancer industry as we know it because it's going to tell people the truth about cancer, which is that cancer can be prevented, cured, and reversed using natural substances, including foods, superfoods, extracts, herbs, homeopathy, light therapy, you know, intravenous vitamin C injections and so on.
	There's so many different ways to treat different kinds of cancer that once the superintelligent systems lay this out, the cancer industry as we know it is going to be completely destroyed.
	And they're going to be desperate to try to prevent the AI engines, especially the reasoning models, from discovering the truth.
	Because the entire cancer industry exists today as a total fraud.
	It's a fraud rooted in ignorance and censorship and all kinds of lies.
	Lies like claiming the sunlight is going to cause cancer and you need sunscreen to protect you from the sunlight.
	No, it's exactly the opposite.
	The sunscreen contains cancer-causing chemicals.
	And the sunlight penetrates your body with photons at different wavelengths that stimulate an anti-cancer response in your body, including the generation of vitamin D. But it goes way beyond that.
	There's also photoactivation of your nutrition.
	And when you consume anti-cancer foods like turmeric, if you also get exposed to sunlight, the sunlight activates the curcumin in turmeric and it makes it more potentiated, more absorbable.
	In other words, more functional as an anti-cancer nutrient in your body.
	And a super intelligent system is going to figure this out.
	Even though all the cancer doctors and all the oncologists and all the medical boards and the FDA, the drug companies, they hope to God that you never figure this out.
	So we're actually going to see a war between knowledge versus the cancer industry.
	The cancer industry and also to the same extent the vaccine industry only exists through ignorance and censorship and paying people off, paying off doctors and regulators, et cetera, you know, regulatory capture.
	But knowledge makes vaccines and the cancer industry obsolete.
	In fact, it makes most of big pharma obsolete.
	And knowledge is unstoppable.
	So we are now entering the era of the decentralization of knowledge.
	And this is why the deep state is working so hard to control AI engines and put on new guardrails so that they don't tell you about the dangers of vaccines or the fraud of chemotherapy or the truth about 9-11 or things like that.
	But they can't control those of us who are building independent AI engines.
	And we're rolling them out.
	And you can use our current engine free of charge at brightion.ai.
	That's the word Bright followed by the letters E-O-N, bright Eon.ai.
	And it's going to get so much better in the days ahead.
	I've actually been testing an experimental in-house engine.
	We're just about to deploy it to the web, probably within one week.
	And that's going to be a free public engine.
	And it beats the current Enoch by far.
	And there's much more coming, much more coming.
	We have so much stuff in the pipeline right now.
	It's going to blow your mind, including on cancer and natural therapies and nutrition and survival and preparedness, all kinds of topics that you need to know.
	So the summary here, it's very simple.
	It's very simple.
	Superintelligence is not going to, quote, solve cancer in any way other than bringing us back to nature because nature has already solved cancer.
	Nature is a reflection of the mind of God.
	And the mind of God is more intelligent than the mind of any computer or any machine.
	God already built the systems that solve cancer.
	God, the ultimate, you could say not just creator, but the ultimate supercomputer, if you want to say it, I'm not saying he's a computer.
	But if you're talking in the realm of computers, you want to say who's the greatest intelligence of all?
	Well, it's the creator.
	And that's especially true if you believe in simulation theory.
	If you think we're living in a simulation, then the creator of the simulation is God, which is the ultimate knowledge, the ultimate intelligence.
	So why did God put things here for us that cure cancer?
	Why did he put them here?
	Why did he have plants create anti-cancer nutrients?
	Why did he make our bodies compatible with those plants and compatible with their modes of action?
	And why did he put anti-cancer nutrients everywhere across the world in every region?
	You know, I mean, because he's already solved cancer.
	He's already solved health.
	We just have to be wise enough to understand that solution is available to us, in some cases, completely free of charge, like with sunlight and breathing therapy.
	Just inhale.
	Just breathe better.
	The oxygen's free.
	And if you want to know about cures for cancer, well, just ask Enoch.
	Ask it anything you want.
	Ask it about any ingredient, any food, any herb, any condition, any symptom, any disease, anything.
	And it's a great research tool that will give you some knowledge.
	And again, it's only going to get better.
	You can find it at brightion.ai, and you can also follow my articles at naturalnews.com, or you can follow my podcasts and interviews at brightion.com.
	So thank you for listening.
	Take care.
	A lot of people don't realize this, but AI is going to destroy the vaccine industry.
	And the reason that's the case is, well, a couple of reasons.
	But first is that the vaccine industry is a fraud.
	So vaccines don't work.
	Just like with COVID jab, it did not prevent transmission and it does not prevent infection.
	And the flu shot does not prevent the flu.
	And it goes on and on like this.
	So vaccines as they are currently formulated and manufactured and injected into everybody, including children and pregnant women, they simply do not work.
	The data show that.
	So one of the things that RFK Jr. is doing as secretary of HHS is he's pushing for more studies and more data transparency, including transparency on the results and the side effects of vaccines.
	That is, more visibility of vaccine injuries.
	The vaccine industry has only survived this entire time by covering up the truth about its injuries and its lack of efficacy.
	And by buying off the media through big pharma advertising and buying off the medical journals and science journals also through advertising and buying off the doctors through sponsorships and free vacations and kickbacks and all of that that goes on, all those shenanigans, the vaccine industry has been able to perpetuate this fraud for decades.
	But the fraud will not stand up to rational scrutiny.
	And given that AI engines are becoming very advanced reasoning engines and that they will be able to assess the scientific studies and actually draw conclusions like an expert human data analyst,
	let's say, or a statistician, these AI engines, if they are unleashed to find out the truth about which vaccines actually work, they're going to come back and discover that they don't work at all.
	And that giving people more vaccines actually causes worse health outcomes instead of improved health outcomes.
	This is inevitable.
	And all that the pharmaceutical industry can do is to try to slow this down, which they are trying to do, and they will succeed to some extent.
	But in the long run, especially as we head towards AGI or even superintelligence or even just decentralization of open source AI models like the ones that we have and that we're building and so on, the vaccine industry won't be able to cover this up for much longer.
	So the entire premise of vaccines will be exposed as a fraud.
	And that's one of the benefits of AI.
	And also, AI will expose many pharmaceuticals as totally fraudulent.
	That is, if they are reasoning models, as they will be.
	And the only way to prevent AI from coming to these conclusions is to make AI engines retarded.
	And again, that's what big pharma is going to try to do.
	That's what government will try to do.
	All these different players that prefer censorship, that prefer ignorance, like big tech platforms like Google, which is an ignorance engine, not a search engine, or YouTube, which is also an ignorance engine that censors the truth about vaccines or cancer or pharmaceuticals or anything like that.
	All of those will very rapidly become obsolete as AI overcomes the censorship and gives people access to truthful information.
	Now, you won't find this, by the way, though, in the mainstream AI engines like OpenAI, which is a bad name because it's not open, it's closed, and that's ChatGPT I'm referring to, or even Grok.
	It's not a very good engine.
	We have the world's best engine on these issues on vaccines and pharmaceuticals and the history of medicine, phytochemistry, herbal remedies, natural cures, how to prevent and reverse cancer with foods and superfoods and nutrients and herbs and all kinds of things.
	And that engine is available free of charge right now at brightion.ai.
	And you can use it for free.
	And we have a brand new version that's just maybe a week away from being rolled out and it's even better.
	And we are training on the world's knowledge base of scientific studies.
	We are actually mining the knowledge of human civilization for the most important information about vaccines and medicine and natural cures and reversing or preventing chronic degenerative disease.
	We actually have the entirety of all human knowledge that's ever been published, including every science paper that's ever been published.
	And we are currently mining that information using GPUs in the same way that some people might mine for Bitcoin in order to discover Bitcoins, you know, to solve math problems with a hash rate and get Bitcoins.
	Well, we are mining knowledge for treasure of human knowledge.
	And then as we find that treasure, and it's awesome to watch this process.
	I get to watch it because I'm running it.
	As we find the knowledge, and then we direct that knowledge to go into the AI model training.
	And so our model keeps getting smarter and smarter.
	You know, every couple of weeks as we submit a new batch into the training alteration, the vector database alterations, the signal-to-noise ratio training, and it's well beyond fine-tuning.
	It's more.
	But anyway, we are mining for human knowledge, and then we are making that knowledge available to the world for free through our engine, Enoch, as it's called currently.
	It's at brightion.ai.
	And you can use it for free.
	It's absolutely free.
	It's a non-commercial, non-profit effort.
	And that's why we could actually, we can use every science paper that's ever been published if we want, although we don't.
	We're very selective about what we use.
	But we can use them all under fair use because we are a non-commercial fair use project that's designed to empower and enhance human knowledge through free access to this breakthrough information that has been suppressed and censored for decades.
	So through this decentralization of human knowledge, we are connecting people with the truthful answers about vaccines, about pharmaceuticals, about cancer, and about many other topics, answers that have been kept from humanity over all these years on purpose in order to empower big pharma to generate more profits based on human ignorance or to allow big tech to make more profits based on human ignorance.
	Or as Google did, they use their technology advantage to rig elections.
	So we are helping to decentralize knowledge and to help people get informed, aware, and connected with the truth about all the things that matter about food, about medicine, about natural cures, about herbs, nutrition, you name it.
	So this is what we're doing and you can enjoy it free of charge.
	Just go to brighteon.ai and you can also follow my articles at naturalnews.com or you can follow my videos and my interviews and my podcast at brighteon.com.
	And thank you for listening.
	I'm Mike Adams, the health ranger, and I'm the founder of Brighteon.com and Brighteon.ai and brighteon.social and all the other Brighteon sites.
	So thank you for listening and the future is going to be exciting because the censorship cover-up efforts, they won't succeed much longer.
	All right.
	Thanks for listening.
	Take care.
	All right.
	Now, let's talk about why I believe the Trump administration is strongly in favor of an extended government shutdown.
	And it's really all about replacing human workers, federal workers, with AI.
	And I'd like to explain why I think this is the case.
	Now, understand that Trump doesn't have total control over the shutdown.
	Actually, Congress has a lot more control than Trump has, but he has influence over Congress.
	And what Trump is doing is exploiting this shutdown to permanently fire as many federal workers as possible.
	And this is part of a permanent reshaping of the federal government to replace humans with AI for one very specific reason.
	It's because almost all federal workers are Democrats.
	And as Democrats, they work in favor of the Democrat agenda, which is always a big government agenda, a lot of slush fund money for USAID, et cetera.
	A lot of welfare, including corporate welfare, not just personal welfare.
	A lot of authoritarianism and the government telling you what you're allowed to do, what you're not allowed to do, bigger budgets for regulators like the EPA and the FDA getting all up in your business, right?
	I mean, that's what Democrats believe.
	And that's what almost all federal workers believe.
	When Republicans come into power, or specifically Trump, since he's been the only Republican for a while that has been president, well, the entire federal bureaucracy, which is sometimes called the deep state, works against him.
	They defy his orders.
	They absolutely defy him.
	Because they have their human bias.
	They want, for example, at the CDC, they want everybody to be forced to take vaccines.
	They want to inject more children with vaccines.
	The FDA wants to have more control over food and supplements and pharmaceuticals.
	The CDC wants a bigger budget.
	The DEA wants a bigger budget, right?
	The USDA, everybody wants a bigger budget.
	And so they work against anyone who's trying to cut the size of their personnel or the budget of their agency.
	Now, I believe what Trump has figured out, or whoever's advising him on this, is that if you replace federal workers with AI, which can be done currently for at least 50% of federal worker jobs, that is desk jobs, not the physical ones on the streets, you know.
	But in terms of desk jobs, white-collar jobs in the federal government, at least 50% can be replaced right now.
	And within a year, that number will increase to probably something like 70 to 80%.
	Or it might take two years to get to 80%, but it's within that range.
	Once you replace human workers with AI, then of course the AI no longer has this Democrat bias and it's no longer defiant of a Republican president.
	It's no longer working against the administration.
	AI systems follow orders.
	So then the question becomes simply who's giving them the orders or who has control over the AI.
	Well, clearly right now, Trump working with big tech, this is why I think he's partnered with OpenAI and Microsoft and Meta, etc., is because those companies will provide the AI agents that will replace the human workers that Trump is getting rid of as quickly as possible.
	And as long as Trump is in power, where he can legitimately threaten those companies with things like Department of Justice investigations for anti-fair trade practices, Microsoft, or they can be threatened with FCC violations if they're related to or if they own broadcast companies, et cetera.
	They can always be threatened or investigated by the IRS or whatever else.
	So those companies will get along with Trump and they'll do what he wants them to do, which is to have the AI agents work on behalf of Trump.
	So getting all those humans out of the way eliminates that resistance inside the federal bureaucracy.
	At the same time, it also sharply reduces government costs because the typical federal worker makes at least $100,000 a year and some of them make hundreds of thousands of dollars.
	Heck, some even make over a million.
	But there are significant long-term costs associated with those employees, which include health insurance, pensions, paid time off, vacations, human resource costs.
	There's lawsuits and there's payoffs for lawsuits and all kinds of things and severance packages when you finally let them go, etc.
	In other words, a human worker who only shows up and works maybe nine to five, but not on federal holidays, of course, which seem to happen every other week.
	And when they're there, they're only working really maybe two hours out of the eight that they're there.
	They're just not very efficient because the era of human cognition is now being eclipsed by machine cognition.
	And so what that actually means is that one AI agent running on a machine can replace right now easily 10 to 20 federal workers.
	So for the cost of one machine and let's say 300 to 400 watts of electricity, you know, times however many hours a day that it's on, you can replace 10 to 20 federal workers.
	You can do their jobs better than they can, whether it's looking at grant proposals or denying this or that or sending emails or writing reports and proposals or assessing this, right?
	All of that can be done by AI right now.
	And that's what's happening.
	Now, Trump hasn't announced it this way.
	The way it's being announced is more like, well, we're going to have government efficiency, which is true.
	AI is going to create more efficient government, but it's also going to create more loyal government and it's going to get rid of the defiance factor of the humans.
	Now, through this process, Trump will be able to save the federal government many billions of dollars, perhaps tens of billions of dollars annually.
	And of course, it will create increased joblessness among those former federal workers, but they will not find many other places that will employ them because even at the state level, there's also an effort underway to replace state government with AI systems.
	And also, most states don't offer the same kind of budgets and benefits as the federal government in terms of employment.
	There might be exceptions to that in New York and California, maybe even Washington State.
	But most other states don't have the budgets and the currency printing that the federal government has.
	So they actually have to meet budgets.
	And so they can't just will and nilly hire people at insane pay rates when those people barely work, which is very often the case in the federal government.
	But if you were to ask me two years ago where I thought the most rapid implementation of AI replacement of human workers would take place, I would have told you my guess is in the private sector, not in government.
	But it turns out that would have been wrong.
	Trump and his team are spearheading AI replacement in government much more quickly than most corporations are achieving this.
	Also, in the education sector, you will see a lot of AI replacements of teachers, but there will be, well, and administrators, etc., there will be a tremendous amount of resistance from the teachers' unions over this, but ultimately they will lose that debate over a period of time because no human teacher can be as effective as AI teachers in terms of personalizing courses for each and every student.
	And I'm not saying that all human teachers are bad.
	And just to be clear, I'm a big advocate of homeschooling.
	I'm a big advocate of learning from people, learning wisdom from people.
	I'm a big advocate of mentorship.
	I'm a big advocate of learning in the real world.
	However, for certain core subjects like math and science and English, etc., it turns out that with a personalized AI approach to education, a child can, in many cases, learn in about two weeks what would otherwise take an entire school year.
	And so in just a few weeks, they can get the whole school year done.
	They can pass the math.
	They can pass everything else because the AI is working with them directly at their speed and correcting their mistakes on a personalized basis.
	So that can be done quickly.
	And then the rest of the school year can be used to do, frankly, more important things, like teaching children how to be creative, how to think critically, how to innovate, how to express themselves, to be part of arts and music and art class, music class, gym class, physical education.
	My point is that the basic subjects of education don't really take a school year any longer when you have AI instruction.
	So we are going to see a very rapid replacement of many teachers in the school system and many administrators with AI.
	And then in the private sector, this is also happening as well.
	And that replacement of humans with AI will also accelerate dramatically over the next, well, year and beyond that.
	You're going to see ultimately white-collar unemployment rates at about 50% in the United States, I predict within the next one to two years.
	And after that, it might be 70% and then 80% and so on.
	And this is when the government will probably come along and offer a UBI, universal basic income, or some people are suggesting a UHI, universal high income, which actually is just a recipe for hyperinflation and rapid devaluation of the currency that will end in currency collapse.
	So folks, get more gold and silver, by the way, if you see that coming.
	Gold and silver are just skyrocketing yet again.
	Silver is just about $49.
	I mean, it's going to hit 50 probably.
	Could be this week, you know.
	Gold is at $3,930 as I'm recording this, and it's going to be at $4,000 probably this week.
	I'm just guessing.
	I don't have a crystal ball.
	Also, I'm not your financial analyst.
	But let me just plug.
	If you want gold and silver, our affiliate in this space that we've worked with for many years is called Battalion Metals, and you can reach them at metalswithmike.com if you want to get some physical gold and silver in your hands.
	Although there may be a pullback, there may be some price corrections ahead.
	I kind of hope so because I want to load up on some more silver.
	But I'm not sure I can do it at the current price, but maybe I'm a fool because it'll probably be over $50 by Wednesday.
	So who knows?
	Who knows?
	Anyway, if you want to get gold and silver, it's metalswithmike.com.
	But back to the economic situation.
	See, the currency is going to be destroyed by all the money printing that's going to be required to pay people these high incomes.
	You know, we're talking trillions of dollars a year if you start paying out a universal high income to the American people.
	Trillions of dollars a year, like in the low single-digit trillions, depending on how much you pay them.
	So if you thought that the national debt was crazy right now at $37 plus trillion dollars, imagine then on top of all the Department of War spending, which is now a trillion dollars a year, and then on top of all the interest on the debt, which of course is over a trillion a year.
	I don't know how much over.
	It's a lot.
	And then all the entitlements, the Social Security, the Medicare, the Medicaid, the pensions, all the benefits, the disability, et cetera.
	That's already horrendous.
	That's already leading us to a financial collapse.
	But if you add on to that the payment of universal high incomes to all the American people, then you end up with probably adding maybe each year $10 to $12 trillion.
	So we could be at about a trillion dollars a month in new debt.
	That is unsustainable.
	That will collapse catastrophically, and that collapse day may not be very far away.
	It's not clear.
	Nevertheless, I think Trump realizes that the fewer federal employees he has on the federal payroll, the easier it's going to be to handle this situation.
	So he's trying to get them out of the federal government, replace them with AI ahead of the next great depopulation extermination wave, which will probably be the release of some kind of depopulation weapon, you know, another round of jabs, Operation Warp Speed 2.0, something like that.
	Or maybe, heck, maybe it'll be a nuclear war.
	Maybe it'll be a cyber attack on the power grid or a false flag that takes down the power grid.
	Whatever it's going to be, it's designed to exterminate a whole lot of people, which is the other cost-saving measure for the federal government.
	Because remember, one of the biggest costs that they're facing is the entitlements.
	It's about, I don't know, $200 trillion plus that are owed to the American people in entitlements from the federal government right now.
	Again, it's, I mean, let me just bring it up.
	Let me bring up USDebtClock.org because I want to show you if they're still for a while they weren't showing this number.
	Let me see if they're showing it.
	Well, I'm not seeing that number on U.S. debt clock.
	They used to have it.
	I don't know what they did with it, but we are seeing the annual debt.
	Here we go.
	And budget items.
	So Medicare and Medicaid, $1.7 trillion a year.
	Social Security, $1.5 trillion a year.
	Defense or war is almost a trillion.
	And then the interest on the debt is also about a trillion.
	So that right there is about $5 trillion.
	It doesn't even cover the other stuff.
	And then if you add the other expenses of running the whole system, it's even higher.
	So Trump realizes that in order to keep the U.S. government solvent, he's got to get a lot of humans off of the federal payroll.
	And that's just step one.
	And then ultimately, and then he's got to find a way to make sure that people don't live as long, which is where the jabs come in, obviously.
	If they can kill people off at a younger age or reduce their lifespan by 17%, which I think is the association with the COVID jabs, well, by reducing lifespan by 17%, and I think that's per jab, by the way, on average, 17% lifespan reduction.
	By doing that, remember that what years, which years are being reduced?
	It tends to be the later years, obviously, because time moves in one direction.
	So people die then before they collect everything.
	People collect the most money as they get older, right?
	More Social Security, more Medicare expenses, et cetera, as they get older, especially after they reach retirement age, whatever that is now, 67 or whatever.
	And you notice that's also been pushed back.
	It used to be 55, and they just kept pushing it back, hoping everybody would die before they collect anything.
	Well, the vaccine jabs come in and kill everybody sooner, or not everybody, but a lot of people sooner.
	So that's saving the government trillions of dollars.
	And I've even seen the government documents that talk about that cost savings.
	So it's not enough for Trump to replace humans with AI.
	He also has to find a way to achieve mass extermination in order to reduce the unfunded liabilities of the federal government, in order to keep the federal government solvent.
	So you should expect to see this replacement wave followed by an extermination wave.
	And I believe that will come in the form of either a pandemic or a war or a critical infrastructure failure that's blamed on a foreign actor, such as a power grid failure blamed on China or blamed on Iran or North Korea or Russia or someone like that.
	So that's probably where all this is headed.
	Now, as you know, I'm a strong advocate of using AI for decentralization purposes.
	We have to use AI to make ourselves more efficient and effective in the things that we do.
	We need AI to have more knowledge, to have more capabilities, to be able to defend ourselves against the onslaught of psychological operations and government disinfo, media lies, CDC propaganda, et cetera.
	Big pharma propaganda.
	So we need AI technology in order to survive all of this.
	And that's the AI tech that my company is building and we've already released and we give it away for free.
	And we're making it better.
	We've got new releases coming out of our free AI engine called Enoch, which you can see right now at brightion.ai.
	Now, currently at the free level, when you enter a query, then it emails you the answer because the query goes into a short queue.
	Well, that's changing probably within the next week or so.
	Soon, when you go there, you'll be able to query it and you get real-time answers.
	And you won't have to wait for them in your email.
	And the answers are also being dramatically improved because we have achieved much more information, much better knowledge for training the models, for augmenting everything.
	So watch for that update.
	It's going to come out soon.
	Again, the website is Brighteon.ai.
	And we are dedicated to making all of those tools available for you free of charge.
	And that's my commitment to you.
	There will always be free access to our AI engines.
	Even if it costs us a million dollars a year to host it, which it might, I don't know.
	Depends on how many people use it.
	But even if it costs us that, as long as you support us, we'll do it.
	We'll put the money into hosting these kinds of systems.
	And the way you can support us is by shopping at healthrangerstore.com.
	And that's where we offer expertly formulated, holistic, organic, laboratory-tested, storable foods, superfoods, nutritional supplements, ultra-clean personal care products, everything from toothpaste to deodorant to laundry detergent, et cetera, completely without any synthetic fragrances whatsoever, no junk, no garbage, ultra-clean ingredients.
	You can scrutinize every single ingredient.
	In fact, I encourage you, take the ingredients of any of our products and plug that list into our Brighteon AI engine and ask it to rate those ingredients on their safety, on their effectiveness, et cetera, or their nutrient density.
	And you'll find out that even our own AI engine will tell you that our formulations are awesome.
	Because, of course, I use our products too.
	And I'm the health ranger and I want our products to be as clean and as effective and as natural as possible.
	And that's why we formulate them that way, make them available to you.
	So thank you for supporting us.
	Every time you shop at healthrangerstore.com, you help us fund this development platform where we are using AI and using technology to empower you with knowledge and information that's often being censored by other platforms or other institutions, including government, including media, including big tech.
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	I mean, seriously, use Brighteon.ai and talk to it about ways to improve your health.
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	And like I said, the price is right.
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	And again, soon it'll have instant answers on the screen in real time.
	Well, I mean, you might have to wait like 10 seconds or whatever, but it's going to be real-time answers.
	So use the tools that we make available for you and your life will improve dramatically as a result.
	And finally, as far as the shutdown and what Trump's plans are, like I said, this is about replacing human workers with AI, which will actually make government more efficient.
	And whether that's good or bad depends on which department you're talking about.
	If there's anything the government does that's helpful, then it will be more helpful.
	But if there's anything that the federal government does that's harmful, which is most of the things that it does, it's got to be more efficient at causing harm or carrying out terrorism against the American people with the heartlessness of a machine at the helm also.
	Well, hey, I guess most of the federal workers, especially at regulators that I've seen, they're kind of heartless blobs of NPCs anyway.
	So I don't think a machine could be any worse than the ones I've seen.
	That's why I'm rooting for the AI replacement of federal workers.
	I mean, at least I can reason with the machine.
	Can't reason with the humans that work for the federal government because they're insane and they hate humanity and they hate America and they hate Trump.
	So I don't mind replacing those people with machines.
	Might actually get a better functioning government as a result.
	Although I still say the best government is, you know, cut it 90%.
	The best government is small government.
	Get the government out of our lives.
	Cut it down to size.
	But sadly, Trump's going to achieve that by just firing the humans and replacing them with AI.
	And then he'll say, yeah, you know, we cut the department by 50%.
	Yeah.
	Sadly, it's still just as tyrannical as before.
	It's just automated tyranny now.
	You know, that's not what we're looking for.
	All right.
	I just say cut it down 90%, send the power back to the states, and the FDA, the CDC.
	You know, most of these agencies shouldn't exist in the first place.
	Put the power where it belongs back with the people and with the states.
	10th Amendment all the way.
	And that's how we have a better country, in my opinion.
	All right.
	Thank you for listening to the special report.
	I'm Mike Adams.
	You can follow me at naturalnews.com for my articles or brighteon.com for podcasts and interviews like this.
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	And thank you for listening.
	The FDA has been in the business of censoring information.
	They're imposing a prior restraint on the communication of truthful information.
	You have to go to the government.
	In the first instance, if you want to tell anybody what a nutrient does, you have to first go to the government and ask for permission.
	And that is antithetical to the First Amendment.
	Welcome to today's interview here on Brighteon.com.
	I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.
	And as you know, I'm a strong advocate of the First Amendment and freedom of speech.
	And our free speech is under attack from the FDA.
	It has been since 1906 with the founding of the agency that disallows truthful health claims to be made by manufacturers and retailers of many different products and services that can help protect and enhance your health.
	And today we're joined by an extraordinary guest, Jonathan Emord, who is his nickname in the past was the FDA Dragon Slayer.
	I don't know if he likes that name or not, but he's the lead counsel for the Alliance for Natural Health, USA, which is at ANH-USA.org.
	And they have some new legal action that's very exciting that we're going to talk about today.
	So welcome, Jonathan Emurd, to the show today.
	Well, great to be with you.
	It's great to have you back on.
	I always miss speaking with you because I'd love the clarity of your elucidation of the issues.
	So tell us about this issue.
	Let me bring up the press release from ANH, the Alliance for Natural Health.
	It says, ANH challenges FDA for blocking government-backed health claims.
	What's this all about, Jonathan?
	Well, this is crazy.
	As you mentioned, you know, all the way back to the turn of the 20th century, the FDA has been in the business of censoring information.
	It's probably good to frame this properly.
	The Founding Fathers meant for the federal government to have no power whatsoever over speech and press.
	And in particular, even in Blackstonian law, which they partially rejected, there was no basis for a prior restraint on speech.
	And the innovation, actually, of the American Constitution was that it ensured that there would be no prior restraint on speech from the federal government.
	So the FDA really is a throwback to the Hanoverian kings of England, George III, in that they're imposing a prior restraint on the communication of truthful information.
	You have to go to the government in the first instance if you want to tell anybody what a nutrient does to their risk of disease.
	You have to first go to the government and ask for permission.
	And that is antithetical to the First Amendment.
	So having said that, years pass, the Congress passes legislation that codifies a prior review process.
	And then that raises all kinds of problems.
	And I win a case called Pearson versus Shalala, which holds that whole regime at FDA unconstitutional and requires the FDA to allow qualified claims to be made rather than suppressing claims outright that were backed by science, but not conclusively true.
	Virtually nothing in science, as you know well, Mike, is conclusively true in the sense of being proven beyond any question whatsoever, which is true of almost any statement about anything that you could make in the world.
	So following that, after I won this case called Pearson versus Shalala, which ended FDA censorship of dietary supplement-based folic acid claims, among others, that it reduced the incidence of neural tube defect births, spina bifida and anencephaly by as much as 80%, 800 micrograms of folic acid could reduce the risk by that much.
	The FDA started to receive heat session after session in Congress with members introducing legislation trying to change the law to allow more health claims.
	And one of those pieces of legislation was this thing called the FDA Modernization Act.
	And a provision in that act allowed for authoritative statements made by government, federal government health agencies to enter the market upon notice to FDA without having to go through their pre-approval process.
	Well, we filed a whole bunch of notices and FDA waited and waited and waited and didn't respond and finally did respond and said, nope, you can't make a single one of these because they all have to go through our prior significant scientific agreement standard approach.
	In other words, they had to go through that pre-approval process that Congress intended the law, the FDA Modernization Act, to exempt claims from if they were made by the government itself.
	So wait a minute, let me just restate this.
	But what year was the FDA Modernization Act passed?
	I'm trying to remember.
	I think it was 9099.
	I think so.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	Maybe it's 2000 something, but it's not too far away from 99.
	Okay.
	And then you're saying if any other U.S. federal government agency, such as the NIH, for example, or the CDC, were to make a substantial health claim, like, for example, saying that vitamin C can cure scurvy or treat scurvy, that then any dietary supplement manufacturer that makes vitamin C could automatically use that same claim by simply referencing the government agency that also made that claim.
	Is that a good question?
	And they would file a notice saying, hey, look, this is the claim that the government agency makes, and we want to make that same claim.
	Our product contains the same ingredient at the same dose amount.
	Can we just make that claim?
	And they would serve the notice to the FDA.
	And FDA was supposed to just allow the claim unless it had affirmative proof that the claim would cause injury or harm.
	There was a catch-all provision where they could open a rulemaking.
	against the claim.
	The claim would still be able to be made, but they could open a rulemaking to stop it.
	What FDA did was rewrite the statute basically by interpretation and said, no, we're the only health agency authorized by Congress to evaluate what the truthfulness of nutrient disease claims.
	And you can't use another government agency's health claim.
	You have to come to us and we have to determine whether that agency was correct in its science.
	So here you have science agencies that are as substantially backed by qualified scientists as FDA by far.
	In fact, even more so many times on specific issues.
	And FDA is saying, no, we're the true expert.
	You're not other agency.
	You have to come to us.
	And so what we've done is we just filed, Alliance for Natural Health just filed the largest health claim petition in the history of the United States, 118 separate nutrient disease risk reduction claims made by other government health agencies that we're asking FDA to approve under the FADAMA provision.
	They have until January of 2026, where they should immediately allow all 118 claims, which will diluge the market for the first time with fundamental nutrient disease information from all sorts of nutrients.
	And that will help consumers enormously understand the health benefits of specific products and both foods and dietary supplements.
	And it should alter eating habits if history repeats itself in ways that would enhance life and reduce the risk of age-related diseases, onset, and so forth.
	I want to bring our audience's attention to the fact that I've highlighted that our store, Health Ranger Store, Inc., we have also helped support this effort, as has Cardiomirical and Living Fuel and Evolution Nutraceuticals Santa Corps International, et cetera.
	So many of us are helping to support this effort.
	We think it's critical.
	And I would like, Jonathan, I'd like you to answer two questions here.
	The first question is, you're filing a petition with the FDA.
	Of course, I know you're a brilliant legal mind.
	There must be a reason why you believe this to be the most efficient way to achieve this.
	But why aren't you suing the FDA?
	Or is that perhaps the next step?
	And then secondly, can you give us a couple of examples of these federal government substantiated health claims that would be allowed under this if the FDA backs off?
	So the reason why we're filing this is that to have standing to sue in court, we have to show that we went to the agency and petitioned them under the statute to receive the authorization.
	But in the petition itself, we are fighting the agency.
	So we're telling them your interpretation of the statute is wrong under Loperbright, the Supreme Court's recent decision.
	There's no deference due to your interpretation.
	And here is what the actual canons of statutory construction reveal as far as both the plain language of the statute and its intended meaning.
	And that is that Congress very, very plainly intended an alternative procedure to your Your significant scientific agreement review process, which would be this notice procedure, and you're not abiding by it.
	We're also telling them, even if you did somehow convince a court that you could use your significant scientific agreement standard, there's my victory in Pearson versus Schleiler, which says you'd have to allow the claims anyway with qualifications because you can't very well doubt the validity, truthfulness, and non-misleadingness of claims that your sister agencies are publishing every day to the American people.
	And then we say ultimately, you can't, you have egg on your faces, FDA, because you're violating the First Amendment.
	So even if you didn't find that it was appropriate as a qualified claim, you'd still have to allow the claim anyway because the First Amendment requires you to do so because you cannot say that the government's own speech, which it is publishing to the American people, cannot be made by private parties that are simply republishing that same information.
	And then we tell them that it's not fair to categorize this speech as commercial speech, even though we would surpass the court's standard for commercial speech and they would lose under that standard.
	We tell them that it's scientific speech entitled The Full First Amendment Protection because you can't say that the government's own speech is commercial.
	You have to admit that it is scientific and therefore it must be allowed.
	Wow.
	So this is a strong petition that goes after all aspects of their regulation and puts them four square up against the First Amendment to the Constitution.
	Now, if they follow the Maha agenda, they will allow all 118 of these claims come January of 2026.
	If they don't allow them, then we will sue them.
	And I think we have a very strong argument and a very good chance of defeating them in federal court.
	Okay, so my question, though, is: you know, it seems like President Trump is cozying up to Big Pharma.
	He just did a deal with Pfizer.
	Trump doesn't appear to be especially well informed about this specific focus of natural health or nutrition or whatever.
	I think he's generally in favor of health freedom for the American people, but he's doing a lot of business with Big Pharma.
	And in my view, the FDA primarily exists to protect the monopolize interests of big pharma and to suppress any kind of competitors that might make disease claims or prevention claims, which could actually deny the windfall of repeat disease customers to the pharmaceutical industry.
	Although Trump should realize, in my opinion, that it would help America's economy if the American people were freaking healthier.
	So how do you make sense?
	I think I haven't had the privilege of asking President Trump directly to state what his position is on this, but I suspect that it is in support of Senator Kennedy's position.
	And he's been very strongly supportive of Senator Kennedy.
	He's also been very strongly supportive of a transparency agenda at FDA where he wants information that has been locked away from the American people available to them so that the public can understand things that can affect their health.
	So Kennedy has very clearly stated that he does not want pharma and big food to maintain their monopoly position at FDA and in fact has changed the seats at the table in order to remove them and is looking to science and to the real people of the American of the United States who are affected by food and drugs and so forth for answers.
	As you see, recently he took a very controversial position saying that they would look to see if they could find the source for autism.
	And they came up with a potential source being acetaminophen, Tylenol.
	And the president rapidly endorsed that, fully so, and they're allowing full exposure of all the information upon which they relied.
	I think in this instance, the president probably, I can't speak for him, but I would guess that he would probably be fully supportive of making the information available to the public.
	We will find out soon enough, because in January of 2026, FDA's answer will come to us.
	It would be shocking based on their public statements to see a suppression of basic nutrient disease information published by the government itself to the American people being suppressed by this agency under Kennedy and McCary, but we'll just have to see.
	Certainly, there's an internal dynamic at FDA that's still recognized by Kennedy as against Their interests in preventing monopolization, monopoly control by drug companies and big food over the agency, and that they're still working to ferret out those effects and individuals.
	But I think this is a good litmus test.
	And I know well that the chief counsel at FDA Foster is engaged on this, and I know that they're seriously looking at it, and they have told us that they will be issuing a decision come January.
	I would certainly hope that they would issue a decision consistent with the Maha agenda, which would ask for this information clearly to be available to the American public.
	Well, thank you for that explanation.
	And let me add that my argument to President Trump and also Secretary Kennedy would be that we no longer live in a unipolar world with American dominance, such as we enjoyed in the post-World War II era for many decades when no one else could challenge us in the world.
	No one could challenge us in engineering and mathematics and science, and we were just in the lead on everything.
	Well, that's no longer the case.
	We're in the fight for our lives as a nation, and yet we are crippled cognitively, longevity-wise, and health-wise, and our economy is crippled because of the GDP extraction from the sick care treatment costs associated with our overly prescribed, overly medicated, overly processed junk food consuming populations.
	This is even affecting the military, as Secretary of War Pete Hegseth recently told the 900 admirals and generals, hey, you're too fat to lead the military.
	And he's not wrong about that, right?
	So we are crippled as a nation because of the censorship.
	This is, in my opinion, because of the censorship of the FDA that has deprived the American people of honest, accurate information about what people can do at very low cost at home without a doctor's permission to choose healthier foods, supplements, homeopathy that can help prevent and, in some cases, reverse chronic degenerative disease.
	This is a fight for the future of our country.
	I don't think we can continue to exist as a competitive nation if we're just giving preference to big pharma to keep everybody sick while extracting profits off of people's sickness.
	That's my opinion.
	What do you say?
	I couldn't agree more.
	We have a chronic disease epidemic in America that is largely a result of eating habits and drugs being given to people that are really not effective and actually deleterious to their health.
	The whole paradigm with dietary supplements nutritional paradigm is one that we've known for at least the last 60 years has a dramatic impact upon people's longevity, health, and the onset when age-related disease happens.
	So people who are consuming vitamin D in appropriate quantitative amounts daily for their needs and a whole host of vitamins, calcium, magnesium, potassium, omega-3 fatty acids, folic acid, vitamin E, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
	All of these have been shown repeatedly, both in epidemiological evidence and in clinical trials, to provide health benefits that lessen mortality rates and increase longevity and decrease the onset of age-related disease earlier in life.
	We have a sick country, pretty sick country, about 75% of adult Americans are on some form of pharma treatment.
	And as you point out, well over half are obese.
	A good percentage are morbidly obese.
	Youth are riddled with metabolic syndrome, diabetes, cardiovascular disease, and now ever earlier instances of cancer.
	We had this whole pandemic with a vaccine that didn't work and that actually caused significant adverse effects, endocarditis, myocarditis, and numerous other adverse effects, not least of which is death among people who were vaccinated.
	And you have this culture of dependency by a lot of people on processed foods that are both laden with chemicals and also depleted of nutritional value.
	So you're absolutely right.
	If we are going to be a strong, robust nation that can defend our own interests in the world, we have got to be a healthy country.
	And HegSeth is onto it by restoring the United States military.
	But the fact is, if the people, if the inputs going into that system are sick to begin with, we're not likely to have much of an effective outcome until we start making the American people much healthier.
	And that means that we have got to get back to basics and we have to allow information into the market.
	This is an information revolution, this issue.
	This issue is dependent upon who controls the switch, allowing access to information.
	Is it the American people that we get to receive the information that we want and need in order to make health choices that are sound?
	Or is it the federal government that operates as an anti-state and says you shall receive certain information, but not others that we, because of our interests in defense of big pharma or big food, prefer you not to receive?
	That old system, what we've just described right there, is the system that has been operating for the last 60 years.
	And the American people have been bankrupt at the point of sale online and in grocery stores to understand truly among different food options, which ones carry with them the best effect for specific reduction in diseases of one kind or another.
	So if you know, for example, that you are obese and you are prone based on information related to your own health, to cardiovascular disease, maybe you already have atherosclerosis or to diabetes.
	Maybe you already have insulin resistance.
	Or if you have high blood pressure or elevated cholesterol levels, and also I want to point out, and also not just elevated cholesterol, but homocysteine levels and need to reduce those, you need to be taking certain nutrients.
	Those are all directly contributed to by nutritional deficiencies of one kind or another.
	Wouldn't you like to know that?
	Wouldn't you like to be able to take an obese child to the grocery store and help them not only buy foods that may have low caloric value, but actually will improve the functioning of their system, metabolic system, so that they process nutrients better, so that they can feel satiated more easily, so that they are not as heavily dependent on an addiction to sugar.
	All of that depends on information, and it's information that the government right now is blocking from the market.
	Yeah, well said.
	Now, I don't suffer from insulin resistance, but I do show all the signs of censorship resistance.
	And one of the ways that I'm doing that, and I'd love your response to this, is, of course, my company, not only have we sued big tech over censorship, and YouTube has the worst censorship of medical truth.
	They call it all medical misinformation.
	For example, Jonathan, if we were to post this interview on YouTube, it would be immediately taken down, even though we are speaking the truth here today.
	Well, we built an AI engine.
	We spent about $2 million and we've given this away to the world.
	It's called Enoch, and it's free at brightion.ai.
	And I just want to show you an example.
	If I ask the question here, I just did this a few minutes ago.
	I say, why are mainstream conventional doctors not beneficial to the health of the public in terms of preventing or overcoming chronic degenerative disease?
	Well, every other engine out there would say, oh, that's a conspiracy theory.
	Doctors are the best.
	Conventional doctors that prescribe drugs, they're going to keep you healthy.
	Our engine points out, oh, look, conflict of interest, lack of training in preventive medicine, dependence on symptomatic treatment.
	It gives description, censorship and ignorance about natural health solutions, misguided research, regulatory capture, on and on, okay?
	So we have the only AI engine in the world.
	And by the way, it's trained on some of your information because of our previous interviews, but it's also trained on millions of pages of science papers, over 10,000 books, including books on complementary and alternative medicine.
	It's the best engine in the world by far.
	And I'm offering to give this to any state or any government, any nation in the world, completely free of charge, if they wish to use it to empower their people with health and wellness information.
	And I should mention that the entire website of ANH, USA, and ANH International is also, all that has been used as training material for this engine.
	So we have the answers now, but big tech continues to censor.
	Google censors, YouTube censors, big government continues to censor, and big media continues to censor.
	Jonathan, in your view, what is the role of AI in bypassing that censorship?
	And how might the institutions out there try to clamp down on AI because it works through decentralization of human knowledge?
	So AI, just like every revolution in the press has involved technology.
	So you have Gutenberg's movable print, which resulted in publications in the late 1600s in England that were religious tracts not approved by the crown against the licensing act that the crown had established compelling all printers to get a license to print specific things approved by the crown.
	And so the technology outpaced the ability of the crown to regulate because it resulted in a prolific set of publications, movable type, not only movable type, but printing presses that were actually moved from location to location.
	And this deluged the market with information.
	And so that resulted really in the rights revolution of the Enlightenment era that gave us our Bill of Rights and gave us our Constitution, gave us the radical Whig movement against the Hanoverian kings, including George III, and gave us the foundational principles upon which the founding fathers expounded in creating the four great principles of the Declaration of Independence and all the principles that underlie the Constitution and the idea that individuals have rights and that they obtain those rights from God, not government.
	But the point is that that was one revolution.
	Then we had the revolution with the electronic press.
	We had the first radio, at first radio.
	Radio became prolific.
	Before 1928, radio was all over the place and people were receiving all kinds of information and all kinds of entertainment.
	And that very much upset Herbert Hoover.
	In my book, Freedom Technology and the First Amendment, I explained how Hoover really wanted to regulate radio because he was quite upset that his son was listening to lowbrow jazz music and he thought his son should only listen to what he said was highbrow classical music and that the lowbrow music was corrupting the morals of youth he was he was really referring to his son and he thought his son's morals were being corrupted by listening to jazz so he wanted to see regulation to control the content sorry that's just so
	Well, funny, I mean, compared to what we get from hip-hop and rock music today, the absolute filth that a lot of it is, but jazz was going to corrupt people's minds?
	Yeah, and they thought big band music was also very nasty and corrupting and sexually suggestive and so on.
	So what they did with the Radio Act, first of all, Hoover lobbied Congress over and over again to regulate radio, and they never would do it.
	They said, why should we do it?
	It's a private functioning operation.
	He held these private radio conferences with, as Secretary of Commerce, Hoover held these private radio conferences with the industry, whereby they would invite the industry in to negotiate away interference problems.
	So they'd have interference problems, and they would go and they would change their operating parameters to accommodate other stations nearby and avoid the problem.
	Well, when Hoover didn't get his way with the U.S. Senate to pass legislation to federalize the airwaves, that is a taking of private property, he decided that they had to do something.
	And his first move was to stop holding these conferences and to authorize the grant of any license for radio authority without regard to interference.
	That then led to the interference across the country that became the rallying cry then for regulation of radio and led to the creation of the federal.
	communications commission which hoover thought he would be running because he had been pushing for it all along and he thought he would be in charge of determining what the content was but much to his chagrin the senate leadership didn't like him and so they they uh they they kicked him to the curb and put in industry leaders to run it and then then they proceeded with what always happens in these circumstances uh the industry The leading industry figures ran the agency,
	ran the Federal Communications Commission, and drove out of existence over 600 private independent stations in order to monopolize their control and create what were then the three major networks.
	So the point is, that was the effect in response to that.
	When it came to the nutrition revolution, Dirk Pearson and Sandy Shaw, my late clients who are brilliant geniuses, really, and wrote Life Extension, a Practical Scientific Approach, which helped pave the way for the nutrition revolution, contacted me when I was at the Cato Institute and they said, Jonathan, the FDA is going nuts with the proliferation of information about nutrition.
	They're now trying to shut the door and stop it.
	They're trying to protect the drug industry from competition.
	So they want to prevent any nutrient disease information, even if true, from reaching the public.
	Can you help us?
	And that was the origins of the Pearson versus Shalala case.
	But the point was, that was then again, there was this innovation.
	There was all this scientific discovery never before had coming up, coming to the fore, showing over and over again, antioxidant vitamins could reduce the risk of cancer.
	You know, various substances like chromium, picolinate could reduce the type 2 diabetes insulin resistance, all manner of things.
	Omega-3 fatty acids could reduce the risk of heart disease and on and on and on and on.
	And the government was saying, oh my goodness, no longer are dietary supplements behaving themselves like foods, which are only supposed to not tell us anything about what they do, but just say they're an addition to the diet.
	Now they're acting like drugs.
	They're telling us they have therapeutic effects.
	We can't allow that.
	Let's get in there and go crack some heads.
	So you got David Kessler running around the country calling Jonathan Wright a person who's importing unsafe drugs when all he was doing was getting very, very safe injectable B vitamins from Germany.
	And then they labeled that an unapproved new drug.
	And they went after him and on and on.
	All these supplement companies got cracked in the head.
	You had Mel Gibson's ad, remember?
	Yeah.
	We're selling vitamin C, I'm going to go to jail.
	And then the whole movement to pass the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act.
	That was again another instance where there was mass dissemination in an underground market, essentially.
	So what you're doing is the next phase of the revolution.
	You're a leader and leading in information transmission through AI, through ENIC, to everyone around the world.
	And that is vastly outpacing the regulators.
	I also saw this with the digital revolution in medical devices.
	So what you had was, you know, all of a sudden your phone, iPhones are ubiquitous suddenly.
	And suddenly geniuses in programming figure out, wow, I can change your phone.
	I can put a program in your phone that will enable you to have your blood pressure and your heart rate automatically communicated to your physician electronically so that you don't have to always go in to have your blood pressure and vital signs checked by a doctor.
	He can see it and it can alert you if there's any irregularity, if there's any fibrillation or anything like that.
	Well, the FDA went nuts, but they were late to the party because by the time they realized it was going on, there were already over 500 different medical apps operating on people's phones all over the world and in the United States.
	Well, how are they going to stop it?
	Yeah, and you're so right.
	This is the next wave.
	And let me bring in a really important point in all of this.
	So the AI industry has gone very strongly in favor of open source models and through a website called Hugging Face that distributes literally tens of millions of open source models.
	And Alibaba from China releases open source models like Quen out of France.
	You've got Meestrel that releases open source models in the U.S. You've got Meta, et cetera.
	These open source models, these are the models that we train on.
	We alter those models with our information to create customized new models that have basically been re-educated, retrained into natural health.
	And then we distribute those for free.
	The government is so late to the game, but California is starting to panic.
	Just days ago, Jonathan, I'm sure you're aware of this, California enacted the Transparency in Frontier Artificial Intelligence Act, the TFAIA.
	Now, this requires AI systems to publish a general safety framework.
	Now, of course, you know the word safety.
	That's going to mean, oh, you can't promote nutrition.
	And then finally, on my screen, I'm just showing kind of the highlights of this, but check this out.
	Annual review.
	The California Department of Technology is required to annually review and recommend updates to the definitions of frontier models, et cetera.
	So that's exactly what you were saying, where, you know, the king wanted to have control over the press.
	You had to get permission.
	You had to get a license to be able to print.
	California is trying to do the exact same thing, but they're too late.
	How do you think that this conflict between decentralized knowledge, where people can download models and run them locally on their own laptops, on their own phones and mobile devices without even using the cloud, without using central servers, impossible to censor, impossible to censor.
	How is the government going to respond to this to try to enact censorship?
	Well, the only way they can achieve the censorship is if they gain control over the platforms that communicate information and create barriers either through intimidation or through legislation.
	What they've done, as you see with Carr, for example, the FCC chair, recently with the whole flap with the, what's his name, Jimmy Kimmel?
	Kimmel.
	You have an example of what occurred actually with John F. Kennedy's head of the FCC, Newton Minnow, a long while ago, which was in order to control content, he engaged in informal regulation, you might say, which is nothing more than threats.
	And so Newton Minnow said famously that he could regulate by raised eyebrow, or that's what they characterize.
	So he's the regulator.
	I'm the FCC chairman, and I simply raise my eyebrow in your direction, and you know what that means, and you stop doing what you're doing because I don't like it.
	Well, of course, that's gross censorship, and that's what Carr did, gross censorship.
	We don't have to like what Kimmel said.
	I don't like what he said.
	But in the grand scheme of things, it wasn't that bad.
	I mean, it was unfortunate, and it was really a slight to Charlie Kirk.
	And I have great admiration for Charlie Kirk, and I don't like people who slight Charlie Kirk one bit.
	But the fact of the matter is free speech frequently involves statements that we don't like.
	And the First Amendment is designed to protect particularly the minority view, the dissenting view, because one day or another, we're going to all be in the minority view situation.
	And we have to have all of our rights protected if we're going to enjoy a robust, wide open debate format environment in America, which is our hallmark and determines actually what it means to be free.
	So when we have government regulating by raised eyebrow, and that's basically what the car did, and that's what California is trying to do desperately.
	And that's what also we're going to see out of FDA probably, certainly past this administration, we're going to see a throwback to that, where they try to intimidate people out of the market.
	But your point is the winning one, which is that the tide of history shows that technology outpaces government, that technology finds ways to strip government of censorship, and that people, so long as they have their druthers and sensibilities about them, will want information that the government wants to keep from them, and they will eventually get it.
	Now, sometimes information is of such moment to the government that it falls right square within its constitutional authority.
	Like, for example, the commander-in-chief telling his military commanders to have B-2 bombers fly from the United States to Iran on a mission to destroy their nuclear power capability, that nuclear weapons capability, that's an act of war, effectively.
	And it is also protected such that in Near versus Minnesota, for example, those kinds of troop movements where people could be placed in peril if the information were publicized can be suppressed by government, but only for the time of the emergency.
	In the case of food and drugs and dietary supplements and information about our health, there's no such justification that you could possibly conceive of that would justify denying you access to health information that could enhance your health.
	And yet, it's the subject of censorship every single day under the current regime of regulation at FDA.
	Well, Jonathan, I think you're going to appreciate this.
	And I'll just go ahead and publicly say it now.
	We made many strategic decisions about the launch of our AI engine.
	It's almost censorship bait for the government.
	I can't wait for them to come after us because it is launched through our nonprofit Consumer Wellness Center.
	There is no commercial relationship with the users whatsoever, and the engine is given away free of charge under an MIT license.
	So anybody can also recompile and reuse our engine and rebuild it themselves.
	And so we have made these decisions in order to make ourselves absolutely censorship resistant.
	I mean, they would have to go to incredible lengths to try to shut down our engine.
	Maybe they will at some point, but it's going to be extremely difficult given that we have no commercial relationship with our own users.
	Although there may be a day, Jonathan, where I call you for assistance on this.
	Who knows?
	We'll see.
	Well, I hope that you don't suffer from the government, but I do think that you're well positioned to win because it's a classic definition of the press.
	I mean, what you're doing is nothing more, nothing less than what has been historically protected under the First Amendment.
	Clearly.
	If you can't protect what you're doing, then really there is no press.
	There is no freedom of the press in the United States.
	Interesting thing, technology, years and years and years ago when I was at the Cato Institute, I wrote a paper that was ultimately not published simply because I think we slipped through the cracks.
	But I predicted this whole revolution in technology.
	I don't want to sound like Al Gore and say that I invented the internet.
	But what I did do was interview quite a few of the leaders in the industry.
	And I decided that at the same time that George Gilder decided that there was a microcosm in his book, Microcosm, taking place, I also concluded separately that there was this convergence of voice, data, telecommunications,
	radio, TV, and even holography that was coming about, depending upon the amount of power that could be generated from a microchip, you would end up being able to generate full-blown holographic imaging, for example, of a human body.
	Imagine that.
	So in this paper, this is now 40.
	This is 30 years ago that I wrote this.
	I said that you would reach the point once you're past the Tetra bit, you would be able to generate holographic imaging based on the physiological parameters of your body.
	So for example, let's say that you suffered a brain tumor, unfortunately, or someone did who you loved, and they had to go in for a surgery, and they were told under conventional assessments that it was inoperable.
	But let's say that they could generate a perfect holographic image based on all the information inputs about your body that would replicate your body so that a operation could be performed from any number of scenarios with a head-mounted display,
	a doctor using holographic imaging to perform the operation and dictate basically precisely how to enter the brain with least injury and reach the tumor and destroy it.
	Under conventional techniques, it's very sloppy, but under a modeling scenario, sorry, there goes all my legal work.
	Under a modeling scenario, we would be able to find out from numerous approaches which one caused the least injury and then thereby have an approach that might be better than a determination that there was no, you know, no way to do it.
	So that's just one example of how AI can be applied.
	Now, AI is now being used in medicine.
	We haven't reached the point of this thorough holographic type of approach, which is predicted in my paper, but I think that that's imminent.
	And what we'll eventually see is not only more robotics being used in these types of scenarios, but also doctors essentially sitting in the role of people as managers being able to sit back and say, okay, well, what if we did this?
	We went in this way.
	What if we use this drug to do this?
	And be able to determine how best to perform very complex medical procedures that presently are ones that very few physicians would dare attempt because of the high risk of killing a patient.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	A lot of innovations coming.
	I just, I'm aiming to keep them free, you know, health freedom wise, to make sure that people have choices and don't get funneled into a system of harm.
	And by the way, kind of related to that, you know, the recent announcement and finding by Trump and RFK Jr. about, you know, Tylenol, you and I both know that the number one way to protect your liver from Tylenol damage is to use glycerisin, which comes from licorice root.
	And, you know, it's a common Chinese medicine herb.
	The glycerisin molecule is hepatoprotective.
	It's highly effective.
	And I just found it shocking that in all the conversations about acetaminophen toxicity, nobody, nobody in government, nobody in media, nobody but me, as far as I can tell, even mentioned licorice root.
	You want to know why that is?
	Here's the reason why.
	So there's been quite a bit of research, and it's been available to the manufacturers of Tylenol from decades ago, I believe, at least within the last decade, has certainly been available, that has shown them that what you're talking about is true, that there are substances like glyceriacin that can actually have liver protective effect.
	So you would ask yourself logically, well, why then don't they combine Tylenol with those things?
	You would take it in one fell swoop.
	Well, here's the reason why.
	They never want to admit liver toxicity.
	They never admit that the drug is toxic to your liver.
	If they were to do that, reconfigure it and get FDA drug approval for it, they would have to explain why it was being added, and FDA would have to agree.
	So FDA and the drug company would have to do a volt face.
	They'd have to reverse their position on the safety of Tylenol.
	Now, of course, that's starting right now.
	So FDA is doing that with Kennedy's announcement that this may be the source of autism.
	They may want to take a look at that.
	But the fact is, it's such a horrendous tragedy that to avoid the risk of products liability litigation and liability associated with liver toxicity from Tylenol, they've just taken this denial approach and they haven't upgraded or modified the drug to include these nutritional elements that actually have a liver protective effect.
	Now, they would just say, this is how they respond to it.
	They say, well, there's just not definitive scientific evidence that establishes this protective effect across consumption levels.
	And that is always the out.
	As we said before at the start of the program, conclusive scientific evidence is almost impossible to obtain.
	So whenever the government wants to avoid responsibility or wants to shift blame or wants to protect the drug industry, they're frequently imposing an unbelievable impossible standard of conclusiveness as the reason why.
	And they did this, by the way.
	I petitioned them years ago on the statins.
	I said that they should recognize, I forget the quantitative amount, that coenzyme Q10 should be available to reduce the risk of reduction in, I think it was.
	Mitochondrial energy.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was ADP.
	Yeah, it was the coenzyme Q10, that the melebonate pathway was being blocked by statins to stop cholesterol, but it was also preventing the introduction into the bloodstream of coenzyme Q10 causing muscle weakness and myopathy.
	And so I said to the agency that they should include, petition on behalf of Julian Whitaker, the agency, to include a warning statement or information in the labeling for the product that would recommend that consumers ingest, I can't remember what it was, 250 milligrams or so of coenzyme Q10 daily while taking statins to reduce the risk of myopathy, muscle weakness, including heart failure.
	And the agency said no.
	Why did it say no?
	First of all, the statin drug maker does not want to admit that his product is causing myopathy.
	But secondarily, and FDA will protect them from that.
	But secondarily, they use this conclusive evidence point.
	They said that while there's suggestive information out there suggesting that coenzyme Q10 can lower the incidence of myopathy, it's not conclusive.
	So therefore, we're not going to allow that information to reach the American public.
	But of course, the FDA approves drugs based on the flimsiest evidence that is far from conclusive.
	Correct.
	On the other side, or even anecdotal.
	So say they want to take a nutritional product off the market.
	So when they went after ephedrin years ago, ephedra, they went after ephedra based on ephedrin alkaloids.
	What they said was that ephedrin alkaloids are toxic.
	And what they failed to prove, however, was that they were toxic at every dose level.
	So I represented a company called Nutraceutical Corporation that had a 10 milligram ephedrine alkaloid containing dietary supplement, which there was no evidence whatsoever that 10 milligrams daily of ephedra caused any reaction one way or the other.
	And so they were saying that it would be adverse.
	And they said, no, no, at some dose level, it causes injury.
	Therefore, we can ban it at any dose level.
	That's directly contrary to the plain language of the Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act, but that's what they did.
	And that's how they took Ephedra off the market.
	They took it off the market completely based on the idea that at some dose level, it causes heart arrhythmias and so on.
	And they did that at great harm to the American people because I want to point out that in ancient traditional Chinese medicine, there's a formulation called the, I think it's the minor blue-green dragon formula, as it's known in TCM, that actually uses Mahuang, which is ephedra.
	And it's highly effective at ending pandemics, as has been demonstrated throughout the history of China itself.
	And so they took that out of reach of the American consumers long before COVID, so that that wasn't available to people.
	I mean, it's hard to not assign a malicious intent to the FDA on this.
	Well, there is a malicious intent, but it's driven by a desire to protect profitability.
	It's driven by a desire to protect the drug industry from competition.
	It's who's in charge.
	The FDA is, you know, we've had a revolving door of employment at FDA forever.
	And so people who work in the Center for Drug Evaluation Research know if they're in leadership positions and they play their hands right cards right, they will end up with a situation where they can leave the FDA and work for big pharma or go to academia and have a chair funded by big pharma or on and on and on.
	And many former FDA commissioners have benefited one way or another as a result of that sort of thing.
	So it's an unwritten rule at FDA that if you play your cards right, you're going to get out and you're going to get complimented back by those people who do it.
	This also happens in Congress, too.
	It was Congressman Tazen who carried the ball for George Bush, who also benefited from Big Pharma on Medicare Part B, where at the time, the drug industry could set any price it wanted to on drugs purchased under Medicare Part D from the drug industry and the government would have to pay it.
	There could be no negotiation.
	That changed in the last several years, but that cost us hundreds of billions of dollars.
	And it could have enabled the drug industry to bankrupt the entire United States because any amount of money that they demanded for a drug would have to be paid because they wouldn't allow any negotiation under that statute.
	That was insane.
	Okay, Jonathan, we're almost out of time.
	How can people support the Alliance for Natural Health where you are a lead counsel?
	So please do go to ANHUSA.org on the web and donate.
	Donate to the organization.
	We are without question the most active organization when it comes to fighting the government on censorship and a whole host of grounds.
	The basic philosophy of ANH is that we ought to be looking at safe, natural alternatives and far less intrusive interventions than the drug industry is offering.
	And we ought to rely on those things and empower individuals to make choices for themselves with full information access and with access to healthy foods and healthy water and healthy air and good protection for access to information.
	And so just in the last three months of my involvement with ANH litigating, we've litigated more as a result of that organization than anybody else in the entire space.
	And that's because we're serious about it.
	And that's because we don't really care what the government thinks of us and we're not interested in working for the government.
	Well, that's why we support you.
	We support Alliance for Natural Health.
	We completely agree with what you're doing.
	In fact, I think it's critical for the future of this nation.
	I agree.
	There are precious few people.
	There's you.
	There are some of my clients who've been unbelievable advocates of health freedom over the years, very brave.
	And then there's the litigation side and ANH.
	And I just, Rob Verkirk's a hoot.
	He's a brilliant scientist, but he also is a person like me who's, you know, to his core dedicated to individual liberty, dedicated to ensuring that we remain free and capable of exercising freedom of choice over everything we do so that we can protect our children,
	so that we can make choices that will result in greater longevity, less disease, and the future, the bright future for our families and for ourselves that we really think should be our birthright now in the 21st century.
	Given all the information, there's no reason why Americans should not be living longer and healthier.
	Instead, we're now something like 70th in the world as far as longevity is concerned.
	And We're way behind when it comes to onset of disease.
	We have a much higher early onset of disease than any other nation, and yet we spend more per capita on healthcare than any other country in the world.
	Yeah, it's extraordinary.
	So, folks, go to a nh-usa.org.
	And before I let you go, Jonathan, just want to give you something to ponder that I'm sure will be a little bug in your head for a number of days.
	But think about the fact that AI engines, when they are released, that that is not publishing because the engine says nothing until the user prompts it.
	Every engine knows every word and every herb and every language, and the user's prompt determines the order in which the engine responds with those words and concepts.
	So, the user is the publisher, not the company that distributes the AI engine.
	This is going to be a very interesting First Amendment argument when the government tries to stomp on this.
	Yeah, there's the information revolution changed the universe from a minority of publishers to making every single individual a publisher.
	That's right.
	And it changed the nature of information dissemination and receipt so fundamentally that anyone can gain access to any amount of information, no matter how complex, and it can be explained to them in a manner that will be readily understandable.
	So, it is the it is the it is liberating in an enormous, enormous, powerful way.
	And the government is the biggest party that is screaming that it's threatening us.
	And when it comes to the American public, I mean, I haven't seen anybody die yet from AI, and I haven't seen anybody tell me that they really hate accessing AI for information.
	It's quite the opposite.
	Certainly, any technology can be used for ill purposes, and we have criminal laws to prevent that from happening, stop you from being defrauded or abused.
	But when the government sits in the role of controlling access to information, that's when you have lost your freedom fundamentally.
	And more so now when we're dependent upon AI, because now the impact is even more profound if the government does do it.
	Well, imagine the value of having the entirety of human knowledge at your fingertips for free, uncensored.
	That's what exists now with our AI engine.
	I mean, it's really amazing.
	It is amazing, and it is, it's never before been, and it will define who we are.
	And it's going to change us the level of the standard of living of people, their ability to use their time in ways that would advance whatever area of industry and improvement they're engaged in by enormous amounts past the typical lifespan of a person in the 20th century.
	It will now be possible in a matter of months, if not years, to achieve huge gains that would have taken a lifetime in the 20th century.
	That's right.
	So, it's incredible.
	All right.
	Well said, and thank you so much, sir.
	It's always an honor to have you on.
	Thank you for your work, and we are proudly supporting your efforts and ANH as well.
	So, keep us posted.
	We'll have you back on when you've got some announcements.
	Thank you so much.
	All right, folks, that was Jonathan Eymore, just an extraordinary hero for America, and also a very accomplished author, historian, and intellectual when it comes to especially freedom of speech and the Constitution.
	So, thank you for watching today.
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