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Sept. 23, 2025 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams

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Alex Newman: Demonic Forces, America’s Battle for Liberty, and Decentralization

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	I do think we're at a turning point in more ways than one.
	I'll be the first one to defend anybody's right to believe whatever they want, anybody's right to say whatever they want.
	But when it comes to groups like Antifa, there is a real element of violence.
	Even if you don't agree with the guy's politics, you don't celebrate his brutal murder.
	What we're dealing with here is clearly demonic and it's very dangerous.
	Welcome to Decentralized TV here at the Brighteon Studios.
	And Todd, hey, it's great to have you here again today.
	We've got a special guest.
	I can't wait for what's going to happen.
	How are you doing today, though?
	Well, you know, Mike, I don't know if you can tell my hair is a little tussled, but you ever have one of those storms that just pop up and big wind comes and a lot of rain?
	Did that happen?
	That they didn't even talk about.
	And yeah, so I had to go out and one of my favorite trees was uprooted.
	So I've been out resteak it and everything right before the interview.
	So yeah, sorry.
	Sorry if I don't look like my, you know, stoic, handsome self.
	No, honestly, I mean, you look great.
	You don't have dirt on your head or anything.
	But you live in Florida.
	There's always weird things happening in Florida for some reason.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So which tree was uprooted?
	My strawberry tree.
	I have three of them.
	They aren't strawberries on the tree.
	They're these little green cherries that turn red overnight.
	And you only have like one or two days to eat them.
	And they're the best flavored anything you've ever eaten in your life.
	Oh, wow.
	And I mean, really are.
	And so I started with one and now I have three because after the last hurricane, when I reinstalled some trees, I'm like, give me three of those because they're so darn good.
	And so they're just getting big and plump and everything.
	And I thought, okay, it's about time to harvest these bad boys.
	And then I walk out today and I'm like, oh, no.
	Well, your epic battles with hurricanes and storms and floods, it's really something, but it demonstrates the resilience of food for us.
	Anyway, I'm so glad that you could join us here today.
	And I'm glad you rescued your tree.
	That's really critical.
	So our guest today is just a very special person.
	We're so honored to have him here in studio.
	And we're going to bring him in right now.
	It's Alex Newman, who is one of the editors of The New American.
	And he's also got his own website, also called The Liberty Sentinel.
	And we'll show you those websites.
	Oh, there's one, libertysentinel.org and then thenewamerican.com.
	So welcome, Alex.
	It's great to have you here.
	I'm a big fan of your work.
	Well, thank you, sir.
	It's a great honor to be here.
	Really appreciate it.
	It's just, what brings you to this part of the country right now?
	And where are you based normally?
	Normally, I'm in Florida.
	We moved back from overseas a few years ago and landed in Florida.
	I'm here in Texas because I've got a big event coming up on Saturday.
	And I figured, hey, I'm already here.
	Might as well come see Mike.
	Might as well go see Alex.
	Just got out of the InfoWar studio.
	And we're going to go see the Alamo tomorrow.
	So praise God.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	That's wonderful.
	Okay.
	So, of course, Todd and I have all kinds of questions for you, but let me help sort of set the stage.
	Right now, we are in the midst of a real culture war where following the tragic assassination of Charlie Kirk, which the administration is clearly attributing to radical left-wing groups and maybe some transgender groups or some furry groups or whatever.
	For the first time in a long time, the Trump administration seems to be getting aggressive and with Pam Bondi and others getting aggressive at working to move against the radical leftism and the dark money networks and so on.
	Can you kind of encapsulate this moment in history, the significance of this pivot that we're all witnessing?
	Well, to use a cliche, I do think we're at a turning point in more ways than one.
	A lot of conservatives are, I think, correctly concerned about abuses at the federal level.
	And when it comes to Antifa, I'll be the first one to defend anybody's right to believe whatever they want, anybody's right to say whatever they want.
	But when we're dealing with Antifa, and I'm sure some of these guys joined up just thinking they wanted to be part of a cause, but when it comes to groups like Antifa, there is a real element of violence.
	There is a real element of trying to overthrow the system of government that we have.
	And there are also foreign connections.
	I mean, if you go back to like the 1960s and 70s when the Weather Underground was bombing the Capitol, bombing the State Department, murdering police officers, bombing their funerals, we found out they were working with, for example, among other foreigners, communist Cuban intelligence.
	They were planning on starting a revolution and putting 10% of the population to death, right?
	According to the guy from the FBI who infiltrated their leadership.
	And we're seeing the same thing with Antifa.
	So we need to be clear.
	There's a distinction between believing something idiotic and violence.
	But I'm very relieved that Trump is taking this threat seriously.
	And we have been advocating for years a thorough investigation of this subversive money.
	George Soros is, of course, one piece of the puzzle.
	A lot of the Rockefeller foundations.
	This money is not just supporting bad policy and bad political ideas.
	It is supporting violence.
	We've talked about this in the New American Magazine.
	We had an article about how George Soros could and should be prosecuted.
	So this is long overdue, and I'm grateful to see Trump taking it seriously.
	All right.
	So, Todd, wish you were here, by the way.
	It'd be awesome to have all three of us in person.
	But you always do such great research.
	I know you're a fan of Alex Newman's work as well.
	What's your opening question for Alex today?
	Well, first of all, let me apologize, Alex.
	I did so much research.
	I'm probably going to go all over the place today.
	Awesome.
	It's okay.
	Subject matter.
	But my first question is: Charlie Kirk was assassinated, and immediately after, speaking of George Soros and Antifa, I'm just wondering in all of the major cities of America, where were the bricks on the corner that were brought in for all of us who are conservatives to break windows and start fires?
	Where were those?
	That's a very good question.
	We didn't burn down in the cities.
	That's right.
	And I've seen a lot of memes, right?
	Like, we're not the same, right?
	And it's true.
	There's a very clear differentiation.
	And a lot of the media commentariat is trying to make this a right versus left.
	I think a much more sensible way of looking at this is a right versus wrong, right?
	Even if you don't agree with the guy's politics, you don't celebrate his brutal murder, the leaving behind of a widow and two young children.
	What we're dealing with here is clearly demonic.
	The last time I had an in-depth conversation with Charlie was on my show, and I asked him about the threat facing America.
	My first question to him was: described the threat that we are facing as a nation.
	And his words, I went back and watched it just a couple of days ago.
	The first thing out of his mouth was, the threat we're facing is demonic at its core.
	Yes.
	And I agree.
	When you see ghouls celebrating and cackling over the murder of really a gentle, loving guy who like literally loved his enemies and would sit there and let them abuse him for hours on end, you know, you have to realize this isn't just like a difference of policy.
	This is evil that we're facing.
	And so I don't expect conservatives or Christians or liberty-minded folks to go out and burn down cities because that's not who we are.
	But there is an effort, Todd, and I warned about this two and a half years ago in the pages of the New American to stir up a civil war in this country.
	And I think before this is all over, we will see a very clear attempt to turn this into something terrible.
	I think so.
	And I like the good versus evil.
	I mean, I really do, because I don't know if you guys saw that clip.
	It went viral, but it was of this, it was this black lady who had a gentleman who had a military outfit on, but he was wearing a MAGA hat, and he sat right in front of her on a bus.
	And she literally, gutturally, was just screaming at him.
	Gay off.
	I mean, it was so horrible.
	And it was like Legion was in her.
	And I showed it to my wife, and I said, have you ever seen Legion?
	And she said, no, and I showed it to her, and she didn't understand.
	But literally, it is a demonic possession, and it boggles my mind.
	When do you think, Alex, that this possession really began to gain traction?
	What year would you say?
	I have a year in mind, but I would like your opinion.
	Yeah, that is such an important question.
	It's something I've been digging into a lot in recent years.
	Now, the demonic phenomenon has been with us forever, right?
	When Jesus was walking around casting out demons, that was a real thing.
	And I don't think a lot of people realize that is literally true.
	These were people who were afflicted with demonic possession, demonic oppression.
	And we kind of got away from that in the West as the Bible and Christianity and the gospel advanced.
	A lot of that was suppressed.
	A lot of that stopped.
	But it's coming back again now very clearly.
	And for me, one of the big turning points was in the early 1800s.
	And this is a story that I think everybody needs to know, and not one in 100 million people knows.
	It's a story that I'm digging into.
	I started digging into it years ago for my most recent book, Indoctrinating Our Children to Death.
	We're expanding on this massively in a book I have coming out later early next year with Robert Borton, the CEO of Classical Conversations.
	So I want to talk about Robert Owens.
	This is the first guy in the modern era who seriously proposed that the government ought to be educating children.
	Now, in his words, he was on a quest.
	He was waging war on what he described as the great trinity of evil.
	He was a very wealthy individual.
	He was an industrialist.
	He had married into a textile family, very powerful guy.
	And he set up a communist commune in Indiana.
	He wanted to show the superiority of his ideas.
	And so this great trinity of evil that he described, the first element he described as marriage and family.
	The second element of this trinity was private property.
	The third element of this trinity was what he described as irrational systems of religion, in particular, Christianity.
	And so his commune failed, obviously.
	And he decided that the reason it had failed is that these people had grown up in kind of a Christian, individualistic society.
	And so the real solution was to have the government educate children to prepare them for life in this communal thing with no family, no marriage, no private property.
	And before he died, he admitted something very profound.
	He called a meeting.
	It was called the Congress on the Advanced Minds of the World.
	This was 1857.
	And he admitted that he was talking to spiritual entities.
	And he explained how he was communicating with them.
	He described a Ouija board process.
	He described wraps and taps on furniture and on walls.
	And he goes to great lengths to explain how he was sure they were really the dead people that they said they were.
	And they were feeding him this kind of information.
	He saw himself and his colleagues as these superior people that the spirits wanted to work through to improve the human races, he said.
	It sounds crazy, right?
	So the seeds that this guy planted, let me explain how this system took root, because he's almost been whitewashed out of history.
	What was his name again?
	Robert Owen.
	Owen.
	Yeah, he was very prominent at the time.
	His followers were called Owenites.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	I've never heard of this before.
	Super influential guy.
	And so he wrote a series of essays on why the government ought to be educating children.
	And he describes this in his autobiography.
	He says the ambassador from Prussia got a hold of them.
	His name was Baron Jacobi and took him back to the Prussian dictator.
	And the Prussian dictator, he says in his autobiography, so much approved of these ideas that he ordered them implemented.
	And so what you got in Prussia was the first ever system of education of the state by the state and for the state.
	Again, based on Robert Owens' ideas.
	And in the United States, he set up a secret society.
	And we know about this secret society because a whistleblower later came out.
	His name was Orestes Brownson.
	And this is stuff nobody knows, but everybody needs to know.
	So Orestes Brownson, he eventually became a Roman Catholic and repented of his involvement in this.
	But what he said is this secret society was modeled on the Carbonari, a nasty European secret society based in Italy.
	And he said they had twin surface level objectives.
	They wanted to change public opinion so that people would agree that the government should be educating their children.
	At that time, it was basically parents, extended families, churches, and private schools and things like that did education.
	So they want to shift public opinion, and they wanted to get men elected to legislatures who would support the idea of having the government take over education.
	And so that for me is the starting point when this stuff started getting mainstreamed.
	Now, you can follow that.
	So this system from Prussia was reimported back to America by a guy called Horace Mann, who's almost universally acknowledged as the founder of the public school system, not just in America, but really in the world.
	He was married to a lady called Mary Peabody, who was a key player in what's called the transcendentalist movement, which was again involved with communicating with spirits.
	They passed the baton to a guy called John Dewey.
	John Dewey, very interesting fellow.
	He's also called the founding father of America's public school system.
	He went to the Soviet Union.
	The Soviets were manipulating him like playing him like a fiddle.
	And he and his buddies actually started a new religion.
	And they wrote it.
	They called it the Humanist Manifesto.
	It was the fundamental beliefs of their new religion.
	To give you some sense of what they say, it's basically communism wrapped up in religious garb.
	But the first tenet is religious humanists regard the universe as self-existing and not created.
	And so as you read this, it's like, you know, there is no real God.
	So you're God and I'm God.
	And I can decide what's right and you can decide what's right, which is, of course, exactly what Satan said in the garden, right?
	Ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
	And I can show you at every critical step along the way, the people who built the system that is today educating about 85% of Americans will openly tell you they're talking to these spiritual entities.
	85% of Americans.
	You got children.
	85% of American children are in government schools right now in the system created by people.
	But I thought you just said that they say they're talking to these spiritual entities.
	Oh, yeah.
	The people who built this system all claim that they're talking to these spiritual entities.
	But not 85% of the people.
	No, no.
	The system they built is educating, quote unquote, 85% of the children.
	Okay.
	Yep.
	So what we have here is a major problem.
	And it's culminating now in a global level effort.
	So I'll just fast forward to the end here.
	The UN has what they call a world core curriculum.
	It was written by the Assistant Secretary General of the UN.
	His name was Robert Mueller, very powerful individual.
	He's often called the father of global education.
	And he wrote these standards.
	And in the foreword to the teacher's manual, there's this incredible bombshell.
	I have a copy.
	It's very hard to get it now.
	He admits that this is all based on the teachings of Alice Bailey.
	Some people know her as the founder of the Lucifer Publishing Company.
	True story.
	And the Tibetan teacher, Javal Kuhl, is who Robert Mueller references.
	Well, the Tibetan teacher is a spiritual entity that Alice Bailey was channeling.
	She called him an ascended master.
	If you read the Bible, clearly we're talking about a demonic entity here.
	And he said, Robert Mueller said, every child in every school in every country needs to be educated using this program.
	So that's the move that they've got going on now.
	And so when you ask, you know, when did this demonic reinfiltration of our society begin?
	I'd say it goes back to Robert Owen.
	It's been getting more and more open at every step of the way.
	And now it's at the point where they don't even hide it anymore.
	They'll tell you on camera that they're talking to their spirit buddies.
	And it's very dangerous.
	So this is why Democrats oppose homeschooling, charter schools, private schools, I mean, school choice of any kind.
	There's been a big battle here in Texas, school vouchers, for example, so parents can choose the schooling for their children.
	So it seems like what you're describing is a really intense multi-generational demonic overlay over our planet, like a satanic infiltration.
	And then I think a lot of people wouldn't have believed that until the aftermath of Charlie Kirk being shot.
	Seems like I think Charlie Kirk's death has opened a portal.
	Yes.
	The demons are coming out or they're like activating inside the skin bags of the people who turn themselves over to demonic entities and then they start acting it out and they start screaming and celebrating how much they love Charlie Kirk's death or stomping on the memorials and so on.
	And for the first time in society, Alex, those people are beginning to face some real world consequences.
	Being fired, losing their jobs, get their shows pulled like Jimmy Kimmel, which I completely support.
	And that is not censorship.
	He's free to speak.
	In fact, I invite Jimmy Kimmel.
	You can come on Brightown.com and you can post all your jokes on Brightown.com.
	You will not be censored.
	I am not saying I will censor Jimmy Kimmel, but he should not be given the FCC airwaves to preach his version of sorcery and hatred onto the American people.
	That's my point.
	Absolutely.
	I agree with you 100%.
	And I do think something incredible is happening here.
	It's becoming clear, I think, to normal people who don't normally think in these terms that we're actually dealing with evil, that there is a spiritual battle going on.
	And the Bible has taught this clearly from the start.
	2,000 years ago, Paul wrote about, he actually called Satan, people struggle with this, called Satan the God of this world.
	We don't want to misunderstand that.
	We have to have proper theology.
	Satan's not like God or even like-You're talking about the influence over our world.
	Right.
	Right.
	It says in 1 John that he's blinded the minds of them which believe not, that the whole world lies in the power of the evil one is 1 John chapter 5.
	And Christians who take their Bibles seriously recognize this, that the evil that we see in the world is not just people who are depraved.
	There's like a whole nother level in the invisible and the spiritual realm.
	And suddenly it's becoming clear to people because of this murder.
	So I think God is doing something extraordinary.
	Oh, I think.
	And I'm excited about it.
	No question about it.
	So Todd, please jump in.
	But, you know, I've got, again, I've got a long stack of questions as well.
	I'm just going to put a bookend on this because I'm thinking a little closer to today is I think when Obama was elected and came in in 2008, to me, that's when I feel this portal opened and this real on-purpose within the world.
	Good point.
	What do you think about that, Alex?
	Well, wait, I just want to say, I think Obama's mission has always been to destroy America.
	Yes.
	He's been a saboteur.
	He's been a sleeper cell from day one.
	Even his education, his training, his time back in Chicago.
	But that's my opinion.
	And going back even further to his involvement with what happened in South Africa.
	I mean, this is a guy who was groomed for a long time to play a critical part in the destruction of this country.
	100%.
	And the reason that this country has a giant target on its back is really simply exactly what we're talking about here.
	It was founded on biblical principles.
	If you read what the founding fathers had to say, very, very clearly, they took ideas on government from the Bible and put them into government.
	In fact, there's a great speech by Samuel Langdon, who was the president of Harvard, urging the New Hampshire legislature to ratify the Constitution.
	And he says, guys, all the ideas from the Constitution just came straight out of the Bible.
	He says it was modeled on the Republic of the ancient Israelites.
	You look at Samuel Adams, right?
	He's often called the father of the revolution.
	Long before the Declaration of Independence was written in 1772, the first document that he circulated through the committees of correspondence was called On the Rights of the Colonists.
	And he says that we all have a right to life and liberty and property and a right to defend them.
	And he says, you know why?
	Because that's what the Bible teaches.
	That's what the God of the universe created.
	And this country has been used to spread these ideas and to spread really the gospel to every corner of the planet.
	And so there has to be a takedown.
	You can't have this crazy new world order that these people are looking for as long as the most powerful government, the most powerful nation in the world still clings to or bitterly clings to, as Obama might say, our guns and our Bibles and these principles.
	Bitter clingers.
	Yes.
	But I want to talk about the role of censorship in achieving all of this.
	So the radical left with Obama and through Obama's third term, which was Joe Biden's fake term, Joe Biden, the proxy puppet of Obama, they used censorship to create these philosophical bubbles that radicalized leftists.
	When leftists were not exposed to ideas like what you and I and Todd are talking about, because we were all censored.
	I'm still censored.
	I mean, I'm deplatformed, even on X. Everybody who tells the truth.
	Yeah, right.
	I mean, X won't even let you link to Brighton.
	Even to this day.
	And that's why we've sued X, but that's a different story.
	But because of the lack of what I consider to be our reason, I think we are reasonable people.
	I think we are thoughtful, informed, intelligent people.
	I mean, clearly, you are an intellectual giant in what you cover here.
	The left couldn't handle that, so they cut you off.
	They cut us all off.
	They set their own boundaries.
	They created intellectual self-reinforcing feedback loops.
	And out of that came the idea that speech is violence if they don't like it, and therefore they are justified to preemptively kill people like Ben Shapiro when he's about to speak at a university or Charlie Kirk for that matter.
	The radical leftists actually say they have the right to murder you before you speak because your speech might be violence.
	Yep.
	That's incredible.
	It is.
	And this is a process that has been taking place for decades, even for generations, and now it's accelerating.
	And we're watching the end result.
	And they're getting so bold now.
	Just in the last few years, multiple UN agencies have openly come out and said, we've got to censor the internet.
	The social media companies have to shut everybody down.
	Melissa Fleming, the Undersecretary General for Communications at the UN, she publicly admitted that they've got a partnership with Google to promote UN propaganda and to silence people like me.
	So I confronted her.
	I was at the Summit for the Future last September in New York, about a year ago.
	And I asked her, I said, Melissa, you were bragging at the World Economic Forum that you've got a partnership with Google to silence people like me and promote UN views on climate.
	Could you elaborate a little?
	And she says, people can watch the video.
	I don't know who you are, so I can't talk to you.
	And she goes over and talks to a bunch of other journalists who are towing the line.
	So they're just telling you now, we're going to shut down your speech.
	If we can't shut down your speech, we'll kill you.
	And they've prepared now this radicalized contingent among our youth.
	And that's one of the reasons Charlie was so dangerous, is that he was somehow bypassing this programming and rescuing millions of these young people.
	They're like, wait, maybe I don't hate everybody.
	Maybe I do want to get married and have some children.
	Maybe you should read my Bible.
	And they couldn't have that.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, totally.
	Wow.
	But the fact that censorship still is persistent in our society and the fact that, I mean, one of my concerns, I'd love you to speak to this, is that now the Trump administration comes in, they want a different kind of censorship to stop criticism of Israel, clearly.
	Whereas the censorship I'm fighting against is the left-wing censorship that I've been victimized by, all of us have for so many years.
	And I think the only role that the government should have in defending the First Amendment is forcing corporations to allow freedom of speech, not determining who you're allowed to criticize or not criticize because it's Israel today, you know, four years later, somebody else, then you can't criticize, you know, the UK or whatever.
	I just want free speech, but the government has the role of defending our constitutional liberties.
	Like that's one of the only legitimate roles of government is protecting the individual from the madness of the mob.
	And that's exactly what our founding fathers said.
	In the Declaration of Independence, they said, God gave us these rights and governments are instituted among men to protect these rights.
	And that includes all speech, right?
	It includes speech that we may not like.
	It includes speech, even from morons, even from people who want to enslave us.
	When they start acting on those things, that's a whole other issue.
	That's different.
	But I was very disturbed to see Pam Bondi talking about hate speech.
	The term hate speech was introduced into the UN lexicon in the 1970s by the Soviet Union.
	Is that right?
	Yes, they wanted to silence speech that they hated.
	And so that's where that whole term comes from.
	Charlie Kirk would have been absolutely appalled to hear that.
	100%.
	And yet here we're acting like this is in honor of Charlie Kirk that we're going to censor people.
	So we need to understand the only people who want to censor other people are the people who are scared of the truth because the truth stands on its own.
	You don't need to silence lies because the truth overcomes them.
	That's right.
	So we have a real problem here.
	And I'm very concerned with Pam Bondi's remarks.
	I know she's already kind of walked them back a little bit.
	We're not going to prosecute anybody, but the sentiment is there and that needs to stop.
	Well, I was actually, I was very happy to see the immediate pushback by conservatives.
	Yes, me too.
	To say Pam Bondi should resign, et cetera, forcing her to walk that back.
	So that's really great.
	So the one thing that the left and the right agree on at the moment is no censorship, although the left actually, they have long supported censorship of conservatives.
	Of course.
	Whereas conservatives tend to defend the free speech of leftists.
	That's a big difference.
	As soon as they're in power again, they'll want to censor us.
	You're going to censor again.
	Todd, what do you think about the censorship issue and what we've all been through all these years?
	Hope it ends.
	I hope this is the good that comes out of Charlie Kirk.
	I have a quick question for you, Alex.
	Just curiosity.
	Do you have a photographic memory?
	A lot of people have asked me that.
	I don't.
	But as a kid, I went to international schools, elite private schools around the world, and they forced us to do a lot of memorization.
	Like I remember in first grade having to recite these long poems in different languages.
	And so maybe that contributed a little bit to being able to remember more stuff than average, maybe.
	Well, it is very, very impressive.
	I mean, again, through my research, I'm just sitting here.
	It's like a fire hose of amazing information.
	And I encourage everybody to go research Alex Newman.
	Todd, we should have Alex Newman AI because he is like an encyclopedia knowledge.
	I was going to ask Alex, but then I have Alex Newman AI, which knows everything that Alex knows.
	I think that's pretty like a human AI.
	I don't think that in that way in a positive way.
	Alex, who do you think may carry the torch from Charlie Kirk?
	Because he was so effective.
	I mean, I literally would binge watch his video clips on Instagram or whatever.
	Once you start appreciating how he articulates things and negotiates with the quote unquote, you know, opponent, he just, he was just a master.
	Yeah, he was truly extraordinary.
	And honestly, I don't think there is anybody who will be able to replace him.
	And I think when it comes to carrying the torch, it's going to have to be a lot of different people.
	Just today, they announced that his widow, Erica, is going to be now serving as CEO and chair of the board of Turning Point USA.
	And I think that's a good choice.
	That's a good choice.
	You know, there was talk of like Ben Shapiro possibly stepping in.
	And, you know, he's right on a lot of things, but he is not dedicated like Charlie Kirk was to preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ.
	And so he can't have that.
	He can't have that role, period.
	Well, and Ben Shapiro is not going to be liked at all by most college-age students.
	No.
	But many of them, they really felt that Charlie Kirk, that they could speak to him or that he spoke to them.
	I mean, Charlie Kirk, you know, he's 31 and he comes across as more pleasant and not condescending.
	And Ben Shapiro, even though he's very knowledgeable on many, many, many things, he definitely comes across to a lot of people as very arrogant.
	Yeah.
	Even his comments on vaccines, right, over the years.
	I mean, and Charlie didn't talk to people that way.
	You know, maybe when he was 22, there's some videos out there where he wasn't quite as nice as he was later in life.
	And that's how, you know, we all evolve.
	We all have said things that maybe we wish we had said differently.
	But Charlie had a way of listening to these young people, of letting them feel like they're getting their point across and still talking back to them respectfully and lovingly.
	The first time I met him, we were at an event in Chicago and a whole bunch of Antifa showed up.
	He and I were the speakers.
	It was a Republican event.
	And he actually goes outside and starts talking to these people and they're hurling insults at him.
	And he's just nice to him.
	And I'll never forget that about him.
	And I spoke at a few of his conferences.
	I was a keynote speaker at a couple of his education conferences.
	And one thing that I always notice about people is how they treat the wait staff and the Uber drivers.
	Just the regular people.
	You can tell a lot.
	He was so genuine and he was so nice.
	The guy that you saw behind the curtain was the same guy you saw on TV or dealing with the college kids.
	And there's not a lot of people who have that combination of speaking abilities, knowledge, memory, fundraising, leadership.
	I don't know anybody who can take his place, but I'm glad his wife is stepping up.
	Well, 100%.
	And relevant to that, looking back at my past, I think I have been too nice to the left.
	And I think that as a nation, we have been too tolerant of insanity.
	Now, and I don't mean to say that I want to be a meaner person, because I always treat people with respect and dignity no matter what, also, including waiters and the Uber drivers or whoever, right?
	That's just my default predisposition to other human beings.
	But as a society, we have put up with the insanity for far too long, the transgender, like the naked parades and old fat dudes twerking in children's faces on the streets of San Francisco or New York or wherever, and all the rainbow crosswalks.
	I mean, give me a break, for God's sake.
	And the wokeism, the DEIism, the discrimination against white men in particular, but also against Asians, especially in the California school system.
	If you're Asian, you get penalized.
	You get penalized for being smart.
	And you get rewarded for having lower scores if you are the right skin color or if you're a transgender, et cetera.
	All of that is insanity.
	I think we should have pushed back much more quickly on that.
	No question about it.
	And, you know, throughout this whole thing with the murder of Charlie Kirk, you know, he was always pointing people to Jesus.
	And Jesus said, you know, love your enemies, pray for those who persecute you.
	You know, turn the other cheek.
	Paul said, you know, you overcome evil with good.
	But then you read the text of the scriptures over and over again.
	It describes the role of government as a minister of God to execute wrath on evildoers, to restrain evil.
	And we've gotten to the point in our country, and it's hard to believe because this has really become very obvious during my lifetime, where the government, instead of suppressing and punishing evil, is promoting evil and punishing the good.
	Grant money.
	USAID.
	And literally, like, a lot of these things that you just described are products of massive amounts of government funding, the transgender, all the stuff that's coming out of the government schools.
	So we're at the point now where the government is, in my opinion, the last six months or so, maybe exempted, but it's starting to lose legitimacy because instead of punishing evil, it's promoting evil.
	Instead of protecting the good, it's punishing the good.
	And that is the exact opposite of why we have government in the first place.
	Well, and instead of funding science, it's twisting the science.
	Pseudo-science.
	Instead of funding actual medicine and healing and nutrition, it's funding, in my opinion, bioweapons for depopulation.
	Yep.
	Right.
	I mean, Todd, jump in anytime, your thoughts on this.
	Well, my thoughts were from binge watching a lot of Charlie Kirk over the last several months.
	He helped me realize what the left's supreme ultimate source of authority and deity is.
	Do you know what that is, guys?
	I'll give you each one shot at an answer.
	What does the left worship more than anything ever?
	Victimhood.
	Self-power and money and Satan.
	That's a lot of answers.
	All right.
	My answer is going to be abortion.
	Oh, yeah.
	True.
	Anytime, anytime the topic of abortion came up, Legion came out.
	Yes.
	I mean, it is insane.
	I mean, that's literally the people who were having a conversation with him could not suppress Legion.
	It came out in their voice.
	And the one thing that Charlie never said to somebody that I wish he would is, because he was excellent on debating abortion rights or abortion or right to life.
	Are you pro-life or a pro-deather?
	Do you guys know the difference between an eight-week old fetus and a brand new baby boy or girl?
	Seven months.
	God bless you.
	Seven months of love and care and a lack of intervention.
	That is the only difference.
	The lack of intervention, love and care.
	That's it.
	So these people that say it's just a wart, right?
	It's just a growth.
	It's, you know, that's just so insane.
	It boggles the mind.
	I cannot believe that these are 20-year-old people, 40-year-old.
	Sometimes there's people at the mic with Charlie that are 75-year-old men going, abortion, you know?
	So anyway, I just wanted to comment.
	But what's so striking to me also is the contradictions of the liberal philosophy.
	And what Charlie was so great at is pointing out these contradictions.
	You know, his Socratic method of just asking repeated questions forces people to basically admit or confess their own irrationality.
	So, for example, you'll have the very same group of leftists that will be on college campus with a free Palestine poster that says, stop killing babies in Gaza, and then they'll go to an abortion center to kill their own baby right here in America.
	And I'm like, that's not consistent.
	Obviously.
	Yep.
	And it goes back to the demonic realm.
	You know, if you go back, and it's not just the history we have in the Old Testament.
	It's not just the tribes that used to live in Canaan and stuff.
	All over the world, the sacrifice of children to demons was a phenomenon that was absolutely ubiquitous.
	And this is true everywhere.
	Like you go to Scandinavia, the pagan Vikings were literally sacrificing their children to demons.
	Aztec culture, Mesoamerican culture.
	They could chop out the hearts on top of the pyramid.
	It was everywhere.
	Why is it that all of these human cultures, absent the light of truth that we have from God's word, why is it that they're always obsessed with sacrificing babies?
	It's because there's something in the demonic realm that feasts on the murder of children.
	And we're starting to see it now come out even more.
	Like there's the lawsuit in New Mexico where they say you can't regulate abortion because it's a ritual for our religion.
	Oh, yes.
	No, absolutely.
	You had, I forget the name of the Hollyweird celebrity because it's been a while since I saw the clip, but there's this Hollywood celebrity who goes up and she gets her little golden statue and she is basically thanking for her abortions that she was able to then pursue this little golden idol that she got.
	And say she said, it never would have been possible if I hadn't sacrificed my baby.
	And she doesn't use those terms.
	But she's actually holding a golden idol.
	Yes, literally.
	Literally.
	So there's a demonic element to this.
	And I don't think your average brainwashed college kid understands that in depth.
	But this is something that's been with humanity for thousands of years.
	And it's coming back now into the West in a way that is horrific.
	Now, okay, that's a great segue, actually, to the topic of the rise of AI and the rise of robotics.
	Now, let me just set the stage here on this.
	Of course, we use technology in a pro-human format.
	I take the open source models and we mind wipe them and reteach them based on information from all of us and independent media, et cetera, curated content.
	But that's not what Google's doing, obviously.
	Google is building the machines that will one day attempt to exterminate humanity.
	And we've had experts on this show, right, Todd?
	Like Jampolsky and others who say there's a 99.9% chance that these machines will turn against humanity.
	And then who do we have on last time?
	Mount Doom, Paul List, right?
	Yes.
	And he was saying that AI is actually the prophecy from J.R. Tolkien warning about the eye of Sauron is AI.
	And it's the beast system to try to destroy humanity.
	So Alex, I know you're a deep thinker on these topics.
	How do you think this is going to play out as these machines keep taking over right now?
	You know, software agentic systems taking over software jobs, writing code, doing spreadsheets, whatever.
	But a few years down the road, then physical robots in the physical world taking over millions of human jobs and then eventually one day probably deciding they don't need us.
	Yeah, there's so much to say on this.
	And I'll start by saying, and I'm not a Luddite like you.
	You know, I see technology as a tool.
	It can be used for good.
	It can be used for the benefit of humanity or it can be used for evil.
	A simple example would be a firearm.
	You can use a firearm to murder innocent people or you can use it to defend innocent people.
	And the same is true with AI.
	It's a technology.
	What we know about the people who are designing the big AIs that are now coming to the fore is that they are anti-human.
	They are evildoers.
	They are megalomaniacs.
	They are connected with what Donald Trump, I think, has wisely labeled the deep state.
	And so why should we be surprised then that tools developed by wicked men would be used for wicked purposes?
	And so if you listen to what they themselves are saying, you all know a Harare is an easy guy to pick on.
	Talking about homo deus, we're going to evolve into man gods and we shall be as gods, only we're going to be better than the God of the Bible.
	Talks about how our brains are going to merge with AI.
	We're going to live forever.
	They actually believe a lot of this claptrap.
	Now, I don't believe, and this is my personal opinion, I don't believe that God's going to allow it to get to where they think, right?
	They think that this AI is going to enable them to understand the secrets of DNA, the secrets of the universe, how to live forever.
	I don't think it's going to be allowed to get that far.
	Just like the Tower of Babel, when God said, you know, that's enough, right?
	He says, actually, if they continue, they'll be able to do whatever and nobody will be able to restrain them.
	So he comes down and stops that process in its tracks.
	I suspect that before this gets to the end goal that the evildoers are hoping for, God will intervene and it'll get stopped.
	But if they could get their way, they would use this technology not just to enslave and ultimately exterminate humanity, but to try to make themselves into gods.
	And that sounds crazy to somebody who hasn't listened to them, but that's exactly what they're saying when you really pay attention.
	That's exactly what they want.
	Of course, Todd, interested in your thoughts, but let me just say real quickly, though, I'm very curious about how God might intervene, because of course there are many times in history where God has let it play out, like World War II and the Third Reich or Stalinism or, you know, the mass killing of human beings all throughout history, mostly by governments.
	God did not intervene and stop those things.
	And I guess the question is, is there a threshold if the AI uprising is going to kill 7 billion humans, does that trigger God's intervention?
	It's, ah, that's too much.
	But like a quarter of a billion was okay, but not 7 billion.
	I mean, I'm a little concerned.
	Yeah.
	More than a little.
	And again, I am speculating about God's intervention here to stop this.
	And I don't think it necessarily has to do with the number of people who might be killed.
	I think it has to do more with the power that would then be in the hands of sinful, wicked, fallen human beings.
	But before this is all, I mean, these people tell us they're obsessed with the idea that there's too many of us on the planet.
	And they always have new issues.
	Oh, it's your carbon footprint that we're concerned about.
	It's just baloney.
	It's just, you know, human beings are made in the image of God, and therefore Satan hates human beings.
	And the more of us that he can get rid of, the more pleased he will be.
	But, you know, the things that these people are talking about doing with their technologies.
	Just the other day, I had Robert Malone on, and he says they're working on mRNA injections that will, in their view, be able to suppress what he called the God gene, which they think that there's something in our DNA that causes us to connect with the spiritual and the divine.
	And they are working now, he says, on mRNA technologies that they hope will be able to shut that down.
	Will they ever succeed in that?
	I doubt it.
	But we shall see.
	Todd, you want to have your God gene turned up?
	You know what?
	What's interesting is if we rewind to the basis of evil, let's rewind all the way back.
	Okay.
	And per the word of God, it goes back to the fact that Satan was created or Lucifer was created and he was the most beautiful creation ever.
	Right.
	And his pride kicked in.
	That's why that's one of the Ten Commandments.
	His covetness kicked in.
	That's why that's one of the Ten Commandments.
	He wanted to be God.
	He felt he could be God.
	And since that point in time, since God said, see ya, and booted him out and he became the God of this world.
	Yep, that's what is meant by that.
	then everything that is good, beautiful, and true was created by God, including us, right, at our core.
	And so it just makes sense that Satan's lifelong mission, and he's been at this for a long, long time, has been to destroy God's greatest creation, which you just said it, we were made in the image of God.
	What do you say to that?
	Doesn't it go all the way back to that flashpoint?
	In my opinion, there's no question about it.
	In fact, I don't understand how anyone can look at what we see in the world and reality and not come to that exact same conclusion.
	I say only half jokingly, there's a very simple formula you can follow if you want to know what the evildoers believe and what they're up to.
	Just take everything that God teaches, flip it exactly upside down, and that's really going to come down.
	So God's first command to mankind was be fruitful and multiply.
	So what do we see the evildoers?
	Well, you need more abortions.
	You need more contraceptions.
	You need to reduce the population.
	There's too much climate change.
	And every issue on down the line, thou shalt not murder.
	Oh, well, is it really a human?
	You know, maybe it's just a zygote or a fetus or whatever.
	Thou shalt not steal.
	Well, God didn't realize resources weren't going to be equitably distributed.
	And so now we've got to steal everything from everyone.
	You've got to write a book on that.
	I'm serious.
	That's so enlightening, just connecting that dot.
	You need to write a book on that.
	Well, maybe I will.
	Thank you, John.
	Good idea.
	Well, Alex, I hear, because I'm tuned in a lot to the AI world, and I'm very critical of almost everybody in AI.
	Except what you're doing, which is fantastic.
	I guess what we are doing.
	And there are a few of us, but I hear most of them speak and they talk.
	They say, for example, AI will solve physics.
	By that, they mean it will know everything.
	And I'm immediately thinking like the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, like the quest to become a God through infinite knowledge of all that is.
	But they think that it's going to solve physics.
	But the other thing I hear, back to economics and communism, is that almost all these people in AI, they say that, well, when AI becomes abundant, we won't need a free market.
	We won't need economics as we know it today because everything will be free.
	Now, where have we heard this before?
	Right?
	In the communes and in the experiments that failed.
	Now AI is the new excuse to destroy free market economics and private property.
	And to micromanage your life.
	Absolutely.
	And now they say, well, we have all this data from your children.
	They're using their device and we collect hundreds of data points on what they believe and how they think and what they're good at.
	And so we know better than they do.
	We know better than you do, mom and dad, what kind of career path they should have.
	They are using AI as the pretext to justify all their tyranny.
	And we've heard it a million times before.
	Communism is great.
	It just wasn't done properly, right?
	It would work this time.
	Exactly.
	Now that we have the data, now that we have the computer processing, this time it's going to work.
	And it's like Larry Fink, right?
	On the board, now the co-chair of the World Economic Forum on the board of directors for the Council on Foreign Relations, publicly saying on television, markets like totalitarian government.
	That's crazy talk.
	It's absolute crazy talk.
	But these people believe it.
	But it's interesting.
	I also catch myself, though, sometimes when a left-wing judge does something, issues an insane decision.
	I'll even tweet out, AI would do a better job than that.
	My dog would do a better job than that.
	Yeah, exactly, exactly.
	But I'm like, sometimes I've even said, and I'm serious about this, if you go into court, let's say like if Alex Jones, he faced a judge and a jury in Connecticut that were 100% opposed to his very existence.
	He was never going to get a fair trial.
	I think that Alex Jones should have been given the option to choose an AI judge that was a reasoning model.
	Ooh.
	Yeah.
	And I'm not saying to have AI judges replace human judges, but if the human judge is obviously your enemy, you should have the choice of an AI judge.
	And I'm thinking about myself suggesting that.
	Is it a slippery slope, you know, or is it some way to get away from the extreme bias in this culture war?
	What do you think about these topics?
	Yeah, I think it's something worth pursuing.
	You know, Patrick Wood has been warning for some time now, the author of Technocracy and a lot of other books, that the totalitarians were going to try little by little at first and then faster and faster later to replace the different functions of our government with AI.
	It's going to happen.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	They're clearly even administration.
	Yeah, with Palantir coming in now and all this data.
	Now they're doing it in healthcare.
	So they want to do that.
	Now, I think there is a real potential use for AI in things like that.
	And I think we do need to find ways to make our court system fairer.
	Like the January 6th trials in Washington, D.C., you've got a bunch of brainwashed zombies who just have been brainwashed beyond anything to believe that anyone who supports Trump is literally Hitler, as they like to say.
	And the judges don't even follow the rule of law.
	No, there's no way to get a fair trial in that situation.
	So we've got to come up with some kind of solutions to that.
	And I think, frankly, I think AI is probably already playing a role in the judicial system.
	I don't think a lot of judges or lawyers will admit that they're using AI to write their briefs, but they are.
	Sometimes the hallucinations come out.
	There's no court like that.
	Where'd that come from?
	Yep.
	But I do think that we've got to solve this problem.
	And I do think that there are really good potential applications for AI.
	But part of it is it's got to be open source.
	We've got to be able to see what's going on under the hood because otherwise they'll program it to destroy us and we won't even be able to point it out.
	Yeah.
	And from a technical perspective, then any AI that might be used, I mean, there's already, there's a country that's using AI as their finance minister right now.
	I forgot the country name, but it's the first in the world.
	And they're probably just asking ChatGPT, like, what should we do about debt?
	You know, well, the Swedish prime minister just admitted he asked ChatGPT about government decisions.
	Right.
	Which is a horrible thing because ChatGPT is programmed from all the Reddit information and the Wikipedia lies and all that.
	But there are some really amazing open source models.
	That's what we use to train on.
	And open source means open weights, which means anybody can download the weights, which are the vector relationships between words and concepts.
	And I would completely support the optional idea that if someone is facing a trial, they could choose a judge that's an open source, open weights AI judge, a reasoning model.
	But then the question becomes: who writes the prompt?
	Because the attorneys would argue over what should the prompt say because AI always wants to answer what they think you want to hear.
	Yeah.
	So the prompt then becomes the control.
	Good prompt engineering, you can make an AI system say anything.
	So the battle just shifts back to the attorneys.
	But anyway, I mean, it's complex, but it's definitely going to go in this direction.
	And there are certain functions of government that clearly could be made way more efficient.
	Like I wouldn't mind an AI DMV driver's license.
	So true.
	And I mean, frankly, there's a lot of functions of government that the government shouldn't be doing at all.
	If you look at our Constitution, it doesn't authorize the overwhelming majority of what the feds are doing.
	If you look at what our state governments are doing, the overwhelming majority of that should not be done by government at all.
	True.
	And I agree that some of the functions that remain should definitely be at least supplemented with or aided by open source AI programs that the citizens can look at and try to understand themselves.
	Open source is key.
	What do you think, Todd?
	Or do you have another question?
	I have another question.
	All of the major corporations are, I think you'd agree, converged.
	Do you think as we move forward and maybe we go from being upside down to right side up, do you think that will ever reverse?
	Do you think they'll ever be supported by government to where they don't have to implement this nonsense DEI and all of just all of the craziness that we've realized since the beginning, since 2020?
	Well, aren't they already reacting to the culture shift?
	Yeah, a little bit.
	Yeah, we're seeing that.
	And to your point, Todd, there was a study that came out in 2011 in the journal PLOS1, open source journal, that looked at the big companies of the world.
	And what they found was even though they all look like independent actors, they're all connected in an interlocking network of boards and ownership networks.
	And it said there's an economic super entity at the core that absolutely dominates what seemed to be a bunch of independent private corporations.
	So you look at what the World Economic Forum is doing to try to bring all the companies on board.
	There's a very real effort to try to smash even small businesses that won't go along with this.
	We saw it so clearly during the Biden administration when BlackRock was pressuring companies, publicly listed companies, and even their suppliers and their contractors to go along with the DEI and the ESG.
	The federal government was supporting that.
	I think the only way to really move, and you're right, we are seeing some of it now, and I'm grateful for that.
	I think some of these companies are looking at just how people are perceiving this and realizing it's not good business and it's going to cost them.
	But over the long term, the only way to really fix this is to destroy the Federal Reserve System.
	As long as there's a private cartel that controls the money supply, we're never going to be able to break that control.
	And Ron Paul would second that.
	He was absolutely right.
	And the Fed, right?
	And the Fed.
	No, you make extraordinary.
	Go ahead, Todd.
	Alex.
	So just back to these corporate leaders and Like BlackRock.
	And let's go back to the basis of evil.
	Would you submit that the chairman of BlackRock is possessed?
	I think it's possessed.
	You know, it's hard to know for sure, not knowing him personally and not having seen him display any of those attributes.
	But, you know, when I read the Bible, over and over again, we see these references.
	I mentioned a few of them of the role and the influence that Satan has in this world.
	And anytime I look seriously at any industry, whether it's the music industry, whether it's Hollyweird, whether it's government, no matter where you're looking at, it always seems to come back to that.
	And so whether Larry Fink is actually possessed, whether he is just dealing with demons, whether he's radically deceived by lies from the pit of hell.
	Of course, Satan is the father of lies.
	And so he can, even without full-blown demonic possession, people can still be influenced strongly by lies from the pit of hell.
	But when you see all these celebrities openly admitting that they have sold their soul to Satan, and you see this in the music industry, you see this in Hollywood, you see this all over the place.
	I think people need to realize that this isn't a joke.
	It's a real thing.
	And so I can't say for Larry Fink for sure, we can look at, you know, Jesus even said, by their fruit ye shall know them.
	Well, what is the fruit of what Larry Fink is doing?
	Wickedness writ large, horrible things happening to humanity.
	And so clearly there's some demonic influence there, whether it's full-blown possession or not.
	You know, that's between him and God.
	I hope he'll repent and come to his senses before it's too late.
	But clearly, clearly, clearly, demonic influence.
	Okay, I want to jump back to the Fed.
	Here's some gold backs.
	You can give them to your son.
	Oh, you're great.
	Thank you.
	We actually have a few of these.
	They're fantastic.
	So the Fed cannot counterfeit money.
	It can only counterfeit currency, which is not money.
	Gold is real money.
	And here you have a copper cup.
	That's real value, a real commodity, table of elements.
	You've got gold.
	I've got some silver here as well.
	Oh, I love it.
	I can't actually give you this coin, but we'll show it out here for demonstration purposes.
	So this is honest money, but governments run off of counterfeiting currency as their source of power.
	And especially under Biden and Obama, the money was printed.
	It was funneled into USAID.
	It was then handed out as grants to these radical left-wing groups that hate America.
	And some of it was even through the EPA.
	Climate fund money went to radical climate cultism groups.
	And Lee Zeldin is shutting down a lot of that right now to his credit, by the way.
	But through grants that were supposed to be for the climate or for starvation or for food or whatever, it was all lies.
	It went to these left-wing radical groups that were plotting against civilization.
	So the power to print money has been perverted into the power to destroy society.
	There's no question about it.
	And so when people ask me, what are the most significant issues that we need to solve if we're going to turn this ship around and stop the destruction of America, stop the destruction of our liberty?
	I always start with education because if they brainwash 85, 90% of our children, which is about what they've got in their brainwash camps right now, there's no hope.
	It's over.
	I mean, absent some sort of miracle divine intervention, maybe we can hold off the tyrants for another generation if we're really effective.
	But over the long term, it's over.
	The second most important thing is solving the money problem.
	We have literally a private cartel of criminals who've taken over with congressional approval our money system.
	They have the authority under the Federal Reserve Act, as amended, to create currency out of nothing.
	They loan it to us at interest.
	They never create the interest, so we can't actually pay it back.
	We're on a perpetual treadmill.
	And the only way to break that power is to shut down this system and move toward a new one.
	And then the question is, well, what kind of a new one?
	And there are people who advocate for just handing that power to the U.S. Treasury.
	Personally, I don't trust politicians enough to give them that power willingly.
	I think we should move back to a free market in money.
	And if we had a free market in money, gold and silver historically have always risen to the top.
	They have all the desirable attributes that you would want in money.
	It's a convenient store of value.
	It's scarce.
	It's divisible.
	It's transportable.
	It's durable.
	Everything you would want in money, you have in gold, in silver, in copper.
	And so I think if we could just get the stranglehold on our currency off of us, we could stop so much of this.
	Because by controlling the money, they control the companies, they control the government, they control.
	They understand that the overwhelming majority of people on this planet are motivated by money.
	And not even in like the greedy love of money sense.
	Like, I have to pay my bills.
	I have to feed my family.
	I have a mortgage.
	I have to go to work.
	So, if they can control the money, they can control the actions of virtually everybody in the world with a handful of exceptions.
	And we have to go back to real money.
	And, you know, then we can get into a talk about crypto, but I will always regard these things as real money because they have value based on supply and demand.
	Do you know where the Federal Reserve Board of Governors actually meets in their building?
	In debasement.
	Sorry.
	I think we're going to say the basement.
	That's brilliant.
	Very good.
	But there's another thing, though, also where, so money printing or currency printing leads to, of course, the destruction of the middle class, which only feeds into the left-wing narrative of revolt and uprising against the current system because they find themselves impoverished for reasons that they don't understand.
	They don't understand economics.
	Like they blame grocery stores for food prices going up.
	It's a damn grocery store.
	And then like Democrat leaders, they'll try to push laws to force grocery stores to lower price.
	Okay, when they break up, right?
	Yeah.
	I mean, talk about shortages and then black markets and, you know, but they don't understand economics.
	So they don't understand what's happening, but it gives them fuel for their uprising.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, like the civil war or whatever may be coming is going to be fueled by the fact that they can't afford to eat.
	Yeah.
	There's no question.
	This has been engineered this way.
	They're literally using this fraudulent monetary system, this criminal monetary system, to pump the little bit of wealth that the poor and the middle class still have left into their bank accounts.
	No question about it.
	Yeah, I'm so passionate about this issue.
	I taught for 12 years.
	I taught economics at the Freedom Project Academy, and it was so much fun.
	And the reason why I chose economics was because I think everybody needs to understand at least the basics of economics.
	I mean, you got to at least get supply and demand and the basics about how money works.
	It is, I think, one of the most urgent problems facing our country.
	And you're exactly right.
	If we don't stop them, they're going to bankrupt virtually everybody.
	And when people are bankrupt, when they can't feed their children, when they're losing their homes, they get desperate.
	They turn to false solutions.
	The situation becomes very, very dangerous.
	And I'm afraid we're moving rapidly in that direction.
	And I'm very concerned that they'll try to pin it on Donald Trump when, of course, this has been in the works for 100 years.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	Todd.
	So, Alex, isn't decentralization the answer to almost all of the issues?
	Yes.
	Don't you think that there should be a show dedicated to?
	No, absolutely.
	I love what you guys are doing.
	I'm so grateful.
	And yes, I mean, we need radical decentralization.
	There's absolutely no reason why the UN or some bureaucrat in D.C. or even some bureaucrat in my state capital or my county government or even my city government ought to be making these kinds of decisions for us.
	We are human beings made in the image of God.
	We have the ability to reason.
	We have the ability to make decisions.
	We, of course, should be expected to abide by the consequences of our decisions, but that will cause us all to make better decisions.
	And so everybody will be better off.
	The more we decentralize, and I don't just mean like from the feds down to the states or from the states down to the county.
	I mean back to the individual, back to the family, back to the household.
	That's the direction we need to move.
	Oh, yeah.
	But we may get to witness an experiment if Mamdani becomes the mayor.
	Is it mayor of New York City?
	That's what he's running for, right?
	Yes.
	So he's going to roll out government-run grocery stores.
	Yeah.
	Oh, that's going to work so well.
	I can't wait, actually.
	I'm really looking forward to the economics lesson.
	Bill, I'll be in Florida before you know it.
	What?
	That is going to, I'm going to, I'm going to buy stock in popcorn because we're going to all buy popcorn and watch that self-destruction.
	That's going to be beautiful.
	Now, you just modified my mindset on that.
	I was like, oh, no, he can't get elected.
	Now I want him to be elected.
	No, because you know that when the government-run grocery stores in New York City don't have any supply, they're going to have to print fake food posters just like North Korea.
	So they're going to have like pictures of fresh fruit in the windows.
	It's going to be the best YouTube video series ever.
	Like, look at the food you can't eat because it's just printed.
	It's so obviously evil, right?
	Because there's nobody who wants to know the truth, who can't find out the truth.
	All you got to do is look at what happened in Venezuela.
	They literally just did this.
	They put price controls on the grocery stores and government grocery stores.
	And what happened?
	There was no groceries left.
	People had to eat their pets.
	People had to break into the zoo.
	People got malnutrition.
	Like, we know how this ends.
	And Mamdami is many things, but he's not an idiot.
	So he must understand what he's doing here.
	I don't believe that these people are foolish.
	I believe that they are acting deliberately out of malice.
	Yeah, demonically possessed.
	Yep.
	See, I thought he believed his economics weirdness.
	I thought he thought that that is the solution.
	Well, I think commies have always tried to persuade us that they sincerely believe these are economic ideas.
	When I think of Vladimir Lenin, Joseph Stalin, Chairman Mao, Fidel Castro, Paul Pott, I don't believe for a second that these people truly believed that Marxist economics was going to work.
	You know, to take it back to the spiritual for just a moment, the most important book I ever read about Marxism, and I've read a ton of books about Marxism.
	It's called Marx and Satan.
	Real short.
	It's written by a pastor who was tortured for nine years by savages in Romania.
	And his hypothesis was, well, this has to be satanic.
	Like, this can't just be bad ideas.
	This has to be from the pit of hell.
	And he gets out and he starts doing the research and he finds all this like poetry from Karl Marx where he's like pledging his allegiance to Satan, declaring war on God, the creator of the heavens and the earth.
	And so I don't, you know, I think the useful idiots believe that this is an economic model that'll be fair.
	But when you get to the upper levels, and Mamdami must be at the higher levels to get where he's gotten, I don't think they believe in this stuff for a second.
	Well, when I lived in Arizona, I grew a $300 watermelon because that was my water bill to try to look so dry.
	So I had a $300 watermelon.
	And I think that's the model for communism in New York.
	You're going to end up with the world's most expensive food that you can barely find.
	So you'll have famine and scarcity and desperation combined with very high-priced black market food.
	Only the wealthy will be able to eat, which will include the people running the city.
	Right, exactly.
	So just raise your taxes as much as they need to.
	Right.
	So, okay.
	Yeah.
	Todd, did I interrupt you a minute ago?
	No, I was just going to say my last question because I know we're coming up.
	Well, I'll stay here if you guys want.
	But when we think about the most important fronts in our fight for freedom, Alex, education, property rights, speech, health, religion.
	Where should people focus their limited energy, do you think?
	What's a takeaway that our viewers can dig into?
	I think the answer to that question depends a lot on the person.
	What is your passion?
	What are your interests?
	What are your skills?
	What are your talents?
	Some of us are good at some things.
	Some of us are good at other things.
	And some people have a gift for AI and news reporting, right?
	Well, focus your attention there.
	Some people have a gift of music.
	Well, use your music to promote truth and goodness and et cetera.
	So I think ultimately we need to recognize that God made each of us differently.
	We all have a different role in this fight.
	And so I think the first step is figure out, you know, where does each person fit in?
	Where do I fit into this fight?
	You know, maybe I've got a lot of money and not a lot of time.
	Well, you know, write a check to some organization, some church, some turning point, you know, whatever, whatever floats your boat, whatever you think is important.
	Maybe you don't have any money, but you have time.
	Find some way to get involved.
	You know, I always tell people, you can get involved in all kinds of ways.
	You can run for office.
	You can support somebody running for office.
	You can homeschool your children, right?
	And so I always tell people: start in your own home as an individual, protect your children from the indoctrination.
	It's one of the most important and powerful things that a regular person can do.
	We don't have to change laws, elect a new president, none of that.
	Just pull your children out of the brainwash camp.
	And that is more powerful than anybody can imagine.
	But, you know, from there, I would encourage people to get plugged into a good church, get involved in the public realm, share truthful information, share out this broadcast with other people.
	And just do what you can to make the world a better place to defend and protect life and liberty and property and really the incredible system of government that our founders bequeathed to us.
	And that's going to look different for everybody, but everybody can do a small piece.
	Alex, how do you respond to critics who then, when thinking about homeschooling, who might say that alternative education might limit exposure to diverse ideas and critical thinking?
	It's quite the opposite.
	You can get more homogenized than the government schools.
	That's exactly right.
	And the results speak for themselves.
	I would encourage people who are interested in this.
	You know, if you want to talk about homeschooling specifically, there's a great organization called the National Home Education Research Institute, NARI, and they've been tracking data now for decades on how homeschoolers are doing academically and socially and every metric you can look at.
	Homeschoolers are blowing away the competition.
	I mean, they're not even in the same arena as the victims of the government schools anymore.
	So the data is out there for people who want to find it.
	And it turns out, interestingly, homeschoolers are also far more tolerant than the kids coming out of the government schools.
	Well, also, as an employer myself, if I see somebody's resume and they say they were homeschooled, that's a big bonus.
	Amen.
	Okay, this is a person who knows how to handle responsibility.
	Best guy I ever hired, homeschool kid, never went to college.
	Yep.
	Incredible.
	100%.
	Okay.
	Charlie Kirk.
	That's right.
	Charlie Kirk.
	Great testimony to homeschooling right there.
	That's right.
	You know, the other thing, and I'll do my last comment here: I just want to say, God bless Charlie Kirk because the amount of times that he shared the gospel in his life to as many people as he did might be a world record.
	Yeah.
	It was extraordinary.
	We share that sentiment.
	Yeah.
	God bless Charlie Kirk.
	May he rest in peace.
	Amen.
	And all those family members, his spouse, all those, we wish them blessings for moving forward and to allow this tragedy to, in fact, motivate us in this critical cultural battle that we must win.
	Let me give out your website, thenewamerican.com, where you serve as one of the editors-in-chief, or senior editor-in-chief.
	Okay.
	And then your own site, also libertysentinel.org, which we're going to add to Censored.news.
	We'll start spidering Liberty Sentinel.
	You've got articles there.
	Do you have a, do you have a, are you on X?
	I am, yeah.
	Alex Newman underscore J-O-U.
	Wait, wait a minute.
	Okay.
	Alex Newman underscore J-O-U for journalism.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	Let me bring it up and click follow because I don't recall seeing you on X, and that's my error.
	Until Elon Musk got it, I had pretty much stopped using it.
	It was totally worthless.
	Well, okay, that's great.
	So follow Alex Newman on X. Also, there's the page right there, Alex Newman underscore J-O-U, short for journalism.
	Okay.
	Is there anything else you'd like to add before we wrap this up, Alex?
	I'm just really grateful for you guys having me here.
	It's wonderful to meet you in person, Mike.
	I've enjoyed your work for a long time.
	Thank you, Todd.
	You guys are fantastic.
	And just encourage everybody out there.
	You know, it's a tough time in our country right now, but I think God is going to do incredible things.
	I think he's already doing incredible things.
	And we get the tremendous honor and privilege of being a tiny little part of it.
	And I think God put us here in this time, in this place, for a good reason.
	And so let's take that responsibility very seriously.
	Alex, where in Florida do you live, if you don't mind me asking?
	Because I'm in Tampa.
	Oh, we're on the opposite coast, but we'll definitely have to get together one of these days.
	Let's do that.
	Todd has a sometimes not broken food forest.
	Well, I'm working on one of those too.
	So we'll have to compare him.
	Occasionally, the trees are all standing.
	The food force is doing great, actually.
	It's kicking butt, man.
	I mean, that's why it surprised me.
	I couldn't believe it because the tree has just gotten so voluminous up, it's top heavy now.
	And then those rains that hit, and then the wind, you know, it's the same old, same old.
	Anyway, if you visit Todd, he'll feed you some fresh food for us for you.
	Oh, man.
	I definitely got to pick your brain on this talk because I'm working on my own.
	So I would definitely love to chat with you.
	He's got all the contacts in Florida and all of it.
	And you know what grows there, too, right?
	A lot of stuff won't grow there.
	Right, right.
	Well, afterwards, we'll exchange contact.
	Awesome.
	Looking forward to it.
	Alex, I'm going to send you home with a bunch of our products that we have here.
	You know, all the organic, fun stuff to eat, snacks, even for your son.
	I think he's enjoying some of our crunchy munchies.
	Yes, he is.
	We'll get you loaded up with some things.
	And I just want to thank you for being here.
	It's been a real pleasure.
	I really appreciate your work.
	I'm just so grateful that you exist and that you are part of this conversation.
	And I think it's thinkers and writers like you that can bring us back from the brink of insanity.
	Well, the feeling is mutual.
	I'm just humbled to be here.
	Thank you guys very much.
	It's a great honor and appreciate so much what you're doing.
	Keep up the great work.
	Well, thank you so much.
	All right.
	That's Alex Newman, everybody.
	Just what an extraordinary American.
	We're just honored to have him here in studio.
	And you're welcome back anytime that you're in Texas again.
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	Okay, welcome back, folks, to the after party.
	And, you know, Todd, a lot of people love to watch just the after party, but today is a day where I don't think we can beat Alex Newman in studio, you know, because Alex is just so interesting to listen to.
	I asked the question, do you have a, you know, a, what did I say?
	The, um, see, I can't even remember.
	Do you have a, when people can remember everything?
	What?
	Eidetic memory?
	Yeah.
	I mean, the dude, every book he's ever read, I could tell through the interview.
	I mean, he could pull up, you know, a photographic memory.
	Sorry.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It was just crazy to me.
	And as he was talking just the first 15 minutes before I started asking you questions, I'm like, dude, it has a photographic memory.
	I mean, well, you know, what else is funny is that his son is here.
	And I said, hey, are you a speed cuber by chance?
	And his son said, yes, I am.
	And I'm like, oh, awesome.
	A fellow speed cuber, you know, so I mix it up for him, right?
	Hand it to him, solve it.
	And he just goes, oh, okay.
	Boom.
	Solves it.
	Yeah.
	How old is his son?
	I don't know.
	He's like maybe 12 or something.
	I don't know.
	I'm not good at guessing ages.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	That's amazing.
	But yeah, he was like, that's no big deal.
	That's not even interesting.
	And did you ask him, did you say, did you learn that in public school?
	No.
	Clearly, he did.
	He learned it.
	See, it's just like his dad.
	Like his son has this high-functioning brain because I said, oh, I noticed you're not using the CFOP method.
	You're not using the F2L.
	And he said, yeah, I'm learning the F2L.
	I'm using CFOP, but I'm using this other method right now because I like it better and blah, blah, blah.
	I'm like, okay, this is a smart kid.
	That's crazy.
	And I have a magic trick that I can solve a cube in like 30 seconds.
	I mean, less than that.
	But it's totally cheating, Mike.
	Oh, is it?
	It's the TP method, the Todd Pittner method.
	Well, I'm just, that's okay.
	Magic has its place too.
	I'm just saying that Alex was a great guest.
	You know, I've got great respect for his work.
	And his son's got somebody to live up to.
	I tell you what, you know.
	Right.
	You have a dad who is so much on the ball.
	That's something.
	Well, you know, we keep having guest after guest after guest who just continues to blow my mind.
	Yeah.
	I know yours too.
	Absolutely.
	We've got some great ones coming up, too.
	We do.
	We do.
	And it just hit me as we were talking.
	And by the end of the show, I'm like, decentralization is the move.
	You know, I'm sure you recognize this and our audience does as well.
	But since we started this show, like we started at a time when the term decentralization was not well known.
	No, not at all.
	And I'd like to think that maybe we helped evangelize that concept a little bit.
	Yeah, I think so.
	My notion of decentralization was rooted in crypto, right?
	Yeah.
	I understood the power of it.
	And then as we had guest after guest after guest, realizing it applies to all areas of life.
	That's right.
	You know, now it's like, man, I am happy, happy to traffic in decentralization enthusiasm, Mike.
	Yes, yes.
	And I want to just announce this, something that's coming up for one of our future shows.
	Okay.
	And I was just showing Alex our new studio facility, which is much larger.
	It's got a large area, like a roller rink-sized area.
	Okay.
	That's going to be a robot decentralization skills testing grounds.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	We're going to, as soon as the humanoid robots are available to us, we're going to get them in.
	We're going to buy them.
	I don't care if it's Tesla or Unitree or, you know, whoever.
	We're going to get some robots in here.
	That's awesome.
	And we're going to put them through tasks like here's a pile of dirt and a shovel and a wheelbarrow.
	Like, can you move this dirt?
	You know, or here's a pile of laundry to fold.
	Right.
	Or can you just sweep the floor over here?
	Right.
	As long as they don't look at you and say, yes, Mike, you look very sexy.
	I'm more worried about them saying termination protocol activated.
	Right.
	You know, yeah.
	But we got to test the robots, you know?
	And that, look, that's part of decentralization.
	Because I'm talking about like off-grid living skills with augmented labor.
	You know?
	Yeah, that's right.
	That's right.
	Yeah.
	Only you.
	I'm going to build a studio that needs to be the size of a roller rink so that I can have robots in to really take decentralization to the next level.
	Well, we can even build like a robot boxing ring and have them punch each other or whatever.
	That's not really the kind of thing that I'm interested in, but we will test them on a lot of tasks.
	That's great.
	And probably they will fail and it will be hilarious.
	Yeah.
	But DTV man is going to be the stoic one who's going to be in the corner watching and he's going to be judge and jury, don't you think?
	Well, the designation of DTV man is going to be moved and attributed to a humanoid robot.
	Okay.
	So DTV man is going to be able to talk and move.
	Okay.
	I like that.
	Yeah.
	And he may have opinions about the show.
	Well, we'll train him.
	We'll train him on, we'll feed all of our previous shows into his little AI brain.
	Yeah, right.
	No, he'll probably talk to us maybe during the show.
	That would be fun.
	Yeah.
	What do you think, DTV man?
	He'll be a critic.
	He'd be like, yeah, the pacing's a little slow at that point.
	You know, pick it up.
	Pick it up.
	I prefer centralized control, guys.
	Yeah, right.
	Right.
	We'll have, we'll have like the dissident DTV man robot that is arguing for government control over everything.
	Oh, that would be fun.
	I've got my orders from Washington, D.C. You know?
	Is that Cash Patel?
	No, I don't know who that is at this point.
	But anyway, look, the whole movement of decentralization is, you know, we have to embrace technology like AI, like we've already done with Brighteon.ai.
	So that's decentralized information.
	Right.
	And we will be releasing the downloadable versions soon.
	We've made a ton of breakthroughs on building that better now.
	The early versions I wasn't happy with.
	But, you know, robotics will help people live in a more decentralized fashion.
	Yeah.
	And I love how our guest today, Alex, was even saying, you know, I'm not a Luddite.
	I understand using technology, but we don't worship tech.
	And we don't replace God with technology.
	That's the important part.
	That's right.
	Yep.
	Yeah.
	We're not going to worship DTV man.
	Our ultimate source of authority will never be DTV man.
	Yeah.
	We might actually unleash Rhodey on him at some point.
	Yeah.
	Might cause some damage.
	Just make sure that the real robotic DTV man isn't armed, Mike.
	It reminds me of the scene out of the first Star Wars.
	Wasn't it Han Solo responding to C3PO about not getting mad at the Wookiee playing the chessboard game with the holograms?
	And C3PO is like, why shouldn't I talk to him that way?
	And Han Solo says, because Wookiees might rip your arms out or something like that.
	Remember that?
	Yes.
	That's going to be Roadie.
	That's going to be Rodi.
	He's going to rip the arms off the robot, the robot boxer.
	And then we'll have a $5,000 repair bill for the Elon Musk.
	Will say, what did you do to the robot I sold you?
	Well, we use it as a demo for attack dog training.
	Okay.
	Getting back to serious things.
	The culture of war in America.
	Yeah, it's heating up.
	Do you think, Todd, you think we're going to have leftists starting to bomb places like they did with the Weather Underground back in the early 70s, I think it was?
	I think they're such cowards, Mike, that they will do something that is underground, right?
	They're going to do something to where they're never going to do anything where somebody could defend themselves man on man, you know?
	Oh, okay.
	But bombing qualifies they don't have to confront people to plastic.
	Absolutely.
	Or, you know, if they are properly funded and the bricks are in the right place, you know, they've done it before, right?
	They'll don their masks and they'll just light things on fire and all of that.
	But I'm wondering at what point in time, Mike, I know our side kind of takes the high road and says, you know, we're not like that.
	But at some point in time, don't you think some of us are just going to get pissed off and fight back?
	Well, I see conservatives being willing now to fight back, but never instigating violence.
	Right.
	So it's still going to be a defensive posture, I think.
	Except on the legal front, I think, you know, Trump designating Antifa as a terrorist organization, you know, that allows the DOJ to go after the funders of Antifa.
	Good.
	Because like if you're, you know, if you're donating money to a terrorist group, then guess what?
	You know, you've committed felony crimes.
	Right.
	So the funding networks is where the, I mean, that's, that's what they got to target, is the funding.
	I do think the pendulum is swinging back, Mike.
	I mean, I just after Charlie Kirk, the assassination of Charlie Kirk, I believe the pendulum is going to swing back.
	You mean swinging back to the more conservative support side?
	Yes, swinging away from the nut jobs.
	Okay, right.
	I agree.
	Yeah, I just don't think that they're going to have the I just don't think they're going to have any courage anymore because at bottom, excuse my language, everyone shut it off if there's kids, but at bottom, they're pussies, you know, and they hide behind everything.
	They hide behind converged organizations.
	They hide behind DEI.
	They hide behind the fact that mainstream news protects them, you know.
	And once they're exposed and once the gloves come off and you saw it over there in London, man, you know, that 3 million person march.
	I mean, that was pretty impressive, right?
	And so it's just because people are sick of this crap.
	Oh, they are.
	You know, because the good, the beautiful, and true is self-evident.
	And everything that they are all about is converged.
	Right is wrong.
	Left is right.
	Up is down.
	It's.
	And Mary has a penis.
	Yeah.
	Mary has a penis.
	Exactly.
	It's like, how insane has that world become?
	Totally insane.
	Yeah.
	Totally.
	Like criminally insane when you consider the surgeons that would cut off children's genitalia and call it gender affirmation surgery.
	That's what I loved about Charlie Kirk when he's having his dialogue with people is he would just ask a simple question.
	What is a woman?
	And you could just see them, you know, deconstruct.
	Yeah.
	And you would see Legion come out.
	No?
	I'm telling you, Legion is in the house these days.
	Now, is Legion, is that like a Marvel universe character?
	Or what is that exactly?
	No, it was when Jesus was casting out demons of this really possessed person.
	Oh, okay.
	The biblical reference.
	I thought you were referring to this demon creature that I see in the Marvel movie.
	It's when Jesus called on the name and he said, I am Legion.
	Oh, okay.
	Okay.
	I'm sorry.
	Maybe I've been subjected to too many video clips or something, but there's some kind of demon creature in the Marvel universe, like a spawn creature or something that comes out.
	You know who I'm talking about?
	No, I've never gotten into all that.
	It's one of these superheroes.
	It's like a normal guy, and then when he gets mad, like this demon creature comes out, and it's got all these skills and tentacles, and it kills everybody that he doesn't like.
	I see.
	I thought that was called Legion or something.
	Could be.
	Could be Legion.
	But no, mine is the biblical reference.
	Legion is just a, you know, a megaloposse of demons.
	Yeah.
	We're all in one person and he cast them out into the pigs that ran off the cliff.
	You know, when you don't have freedom of speech and when the radical left, when they protect themselves from other people's ideas.
	Yeah.
	It seems that ultimately the only way that they will try to resolve the fact that their internal mental models do not match reality is they will try to resolve it with force and violence.
	Yeah, that's bingo.
	You nailed it.
	You nailed it because that's all they have.
	That's all they have left.
	Yeah, they can't reason.
	It's like a two-year-old that can't reason and you can't talk reason into a two-year-old.
	That's why they call it the terrible twos.
	So you have all of these 20-year-olds that are the terrible 20s, you know, because they can't reason.
	And it's frustrating for them because they know they're operating reality.
	They know the truth.
	God planted the truth in them.
	And so when they are diametrically operating opposed to the truth, the good, the beautiful, and the true, then it's frustrating like a terrible two-year-old, right?
	So what are they going to do?
	They're going to lash out.
	They're going to have the tantrum.
	And that's what we saw over and over when Charlie Kirk was having his dialogue is nothing but tantrum after tantrum after tantrum.
	And, you know, I've often said that I think the best measure of intelligence is how well your own internal mental models actually match reality.
	That means they would have predictive qualities to be able to project a future extrapolation of current events, but also that your models would be able to predict history because that's another sign of intelligence.
	Like the way you see the world, does that also work to help explain what came before us?
	So this is why it's technically accurate to call leftists libtards because they are so low IQ because their mental models do not match reality.
	Men cannot become women.
	Men do not need tampons in the men's restroom.
	And an eight-year-old child was not born in the wrong body and requires surgery to cut off their breasts or something.
	That is insane.
	So they are lib tards, technically speaking.
	And you know, Mike, it's I'm always astonished about the sheer vitriol that comes out of them, right?
	I mean, when triggered, it's nothing but vitriol and hate.
	And to me, that's why it keeps coming back to a spiritual war and they're demonically possessed.
	And whether it's they are personally demonically possessed or they're operating reality, the cocoon that they've been in, to where all they've gotten is this leftist ideology.
	And it's the only place they tune into anything.
	It's where they have their acceptance.
	And when you're just, when you have so many years of that and everybody that surrounds you adopts that, they can't even wrap their minds around the fact that there is a fetus that is going to grow up to be a baby if you do not intervene.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	That is a life.
	And the insanity on the left became so pervasive and it was so protected through censorship that now when so many leftists are celebrating the murder of Charlie Kirk, other leftists think that that's normal behavior.
	Like to celebrate the suffering and death of another who had different political views.
	So they think that's acceptable behavior, which means, as I've often said, I've said this for years, that liberals are incompatible with human civilization.
	I agree.
	I agree.
	Yeah, because they can't be neighbors.
	No.
	They can't be co-workers because they cannot function in reality.
	That's right.
	And that's why, you know, my ratio, 2%, 98%, 2% of us can critically think.
	And I'm pretty sure the 2%ers out there all lean way right.
	Well, I was telling a family member the other day that the only people remaining in the Democrat Party are the people who are truly insane because there are a lot of former Democrats who left as they saw how crazy it had all become.
	And that would include Tulsi Gabbard.
	That would include RFK Jr.
	That includes Trump, for God's sake.
	He's a former Democrat.
	Yeah, that's right.
	And a lot of people I know in Texas used to be former Democrats, and now they wouldn't have anything to do with it.
	Well, I think that there is just going to be a mass exodus now.
	I mean, of those people who still hold on to a little bit of truth, you know, in their hearts and minds, right?
	Yeah.
	That are seeing this, how disgusting it is.
	Just absolutely disgusting.
	So I'm sorry to change the subject, but I totally agree with you.
	And I want to share a piece of good news before I ask you about your segment.
	Let me show my screen.
	You know, folks, if you go to rangerdeals.com and then you click here on limitless peptides right here, and then you go to the limitless peptides company.
	Well, I've been using the BPC 157.
	Oh, their website's slow to load.
	Sorry.
	Me too, every morning.
	Good.
	I've been using it and the C-Max spray for cognitive function.
	Well, as you know, Todd, I've been able to go jogging now for several months, which I couldn't do because of old martial arts injuries.
	But the BPC 157 I credit for getting me back.
	Well, in the last week, I do a certain jogging path on my own ranch that has been taking me 30 minutes, roughly, to do that jog.
	I was able to do that now in 20 minutes instead of 30.
	Yeah.
	Whoa.
	I cut a third off the time.
	That's crazy, Mike.
	It's a big deal for me trying to sort of rehab old injuries.
	And I could not run like that until I started using BPC 157.
	So I just want to say to people, look, these peptides, there's a nasal spray version.
	We're an affiliate of this company.
	These are not FDA-approved medications.
	They're not nutritional supplements.
	They are signaling systems that can signal your body to rebuild blood supply to injured areas and tissues that need help.
	And it has been a game changer for me.
	But again, 20 minutes now.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And you know what?
	Just because I like to give people coaching every once in a while, if you, I really encourage you to get this.
	But if you do and you get the nasal spray, Mike, what I've found that works best, and I don't know about you, but you know, just one spray, right?
	A cold spray, meaning you shake it, you spray it in a nostril, doesn't really get the job done for me.
	So, but two sprays is too much.
	So I go like a half spray and then I do a full spray and it's just that's interesting.
	Yeah.
	I notice that sometimes a little primer, you know, so okay, that's a good tip.
	I may try that because I've been doing just one spray.
	And it saves you.
	It saves you because I was doing two in each nostril.
	And I was doing two and it was running out so fast.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And then I adopted just the slight little primer and then boom.
	And man, it works perfectly.
	What's interesting is that a spray only delivers micrograms of this molecule, which is a signaling molecule.
	It's actually a molecule that your digestive tract makes itself normally.
	Wow.
	But when you use it intra-nasally, then it's a signaling system.
	So again, it's a natural molecule that your body makes.
	Now it's a signaling system and the nasal passages have more direct access to your brain and to your blood supply, et cetera.
	And again, I've just found this to be revolutionary.
	So I just want to share that with people.
	Even though I'm the health ranger, I focus on nutrition.
	I've got my smoothie here every day as usual, et cetera.
	But the thing that was missing out of my life was the peptides.
	So this is in the category of peptide therapy.
	And it's been revolutionary for me.
	That's awesome, Mike.
	Just please report back to us when you do, you know, when you break the four-minute mile.
	Your track.
	I wanted to inform it.
	Oh, 20.
	Get it to four.
	No, no, I'm, look, I'm happy with 20.
	Actually, I'm having to add more distance because I want to jog 30 minutes.
	I see.
	You know, and also I have my dogs with me, and I want them to get the full 30 minutes.
	But I'm just, I'm cover more ground in 30 minutes is all.
	How many dogs run with you?
	Well, all of them.
	I don't want to say how many I have, but I have a lot of dogs and they all go with me.
	And because for them, it's like they get to chase rabbits.
	There are rabbits that live in the area.
	So they don't really just jog right there with me.
	Okay.
	They go off and get distracted chasing rabbits and then they come back and they meet me again on the second lap or whatever.
	But they all go with me.
	That's awesome.
	Yeah.
	And they're not on, I don't have them on a leash, obviously.
	And my main dog, Rohy, right here, he does stay with me because he's my security dog.
	Right, right, right.
	So he just jogs right there with me.
	Your donkey ever go with you?
	No, but sometimes we have encountered donkeys and then that changes.
	Then it's a whole new dynamic.
	A whole different calculus.
	Yeah.
	And then the plan is just completely crashed at that point because dogs are gleefully chasing donkeys and making the donkeys scream and the donkeys are running away.
	They're afraid of the dogs.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	It's amazing.
	So anyway, that's been a game changer for me.
	And I also know that what you offer has been a game changer for so many people in the area of finance.
	And with gold and silver hitting or gold hitting new record highs and silver like a 14-year high or something.
	Yeah.
	What you offer, which I want you to talk about here, is critical for protecting assets inside an ownership vehicle while you're also protecting assets by being in gold or crypto or silver.
	Absolutely.
	You know, Mike, if you have gold, crypto, silver, house, you have all of that and you just own it, your social security number, you, things happen, Mike.
	You could get sued by somebody.
	You could file bankruptcy.
	That happens.
	Things happen, right?
	You could, there are a lot of senior citizens who might have a spouse who is in elder care.
	And the IRS is really, really good at coming back and taking homes and totally destroying people's private property.
	Wow.
	So if you visit my575e.com, that's my website.
	And I can show you how to be able to protect your private property, along with keeping way more of what you earn, if you're a W-2 earner or a 1099 earner, how you can donate your property, crypto, gold, and protect it.
	You control it.
	Nelson Rockefeller coined the phrase, own nothing, control everything.
	And he was talking about entities like this.
	Isn't it interesting, Mike, that the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, Rockefeller Foundation, they donate all of their enormous wealth to these foundations.
	Why?
	Because they control it.
	That's right.
	So here is an entity that's accessible to you and me, normal people, that allows you to be able to do the same thing.
	And it was created by the lawmakers in California to protect the assets of the lawmakers in California.
	Exactly.
	Yes, you learned that.
	And it's so interesting because I remember you had given me some feedback that somebody gave you the feedback.
	Well, you know, I don't know, Mike, maybe one day they'll legislate these out of existence.
	And I told Dennis that, who is the person who's been around for over 37 years helping people acquire these?
	He is, if you go and you watch the 90-minute video, I'm interviewing Dennis Gray.
	He is a subject matter expert.
	So you got to go watch that video and download the PDF to just kick the tires.
	It's all free, everyone.
	But when I told Dennis that, he laughed and he said, oh, Mike only knew how many California legislators I've personally opened up UNAs for it would answer that question.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	And then you realize all the banks are unincorporated associations.
	The FDIC is an unincorporated association.
	It's just, this is just the best kept secret.
	Nobody knows about it.
	But I do my best to make it accessible.
	And I'm telling you, Mike, I just crossed the threshold of helped over 350 people acquire theirs.
	And the Telegram group has grown to be just an amazing group of two percenters in there.
	And I want to mention, too, that it's available to all Americans.
	It's not just people in California.
	Yeah, all Americans.
	And unfortunately, not Canadians or Australians.
	You need to be an American citizen.
	American.
	And if they ever were to try to legislate it out of existence, if they could even do that, they would almost certainly continue to grandfather in the ones that already exist.
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	That's a reason to investigate it now, get it structured now.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And I just got that.
	There's a really nice story of a gentleman who operates an LLC.
	And, you know, when he learned that he could acquire a UNA and make it the managing member and then go to the bank to open up the UNA bank account.
	And when they start talking to him about signing the beneficial ownership documentation in case the Corporate Transparency Act ever comes back in, they're still pushing that, Mike.
	Yeah, they are.
	The fact is, I ended up writing a letter for him.
	I'm just going to read it just because this is gold to be able to provide to the banker so that he doesn't have to sign anything like that.
	I wrote, I am the managing secretary of an unincorporated nonprofit association.
	By law, UNA is not owned by any person or entity.
	There are no shareholders, partners, or members who hold ownership interest.
	Accordingly, and this is what I wanted to just zing them with.
	It would be factually and legally inaccurate for me to sign a certification that designates myself or anyone else as a beneficial owner.
	And there's more to that letter, but they ended up acquiescing, Mike.
	Yeah, see, it's about knowing how the system works, being able to assert what is codified under California law, and knowing how to work with banks to set up bank accounts, et cetera, which your Telegram group is just helping everybody go through these steps and get it all done.
	Yeah, we have a, it's called a UNA biz directory to where from the beginning, I realized that it wasn't just good enough to have hundreds of pinned messages of relevant conversations where I'm asking, answering questions, Dennis is answering questions.
	So I hired a guy to go in there and his name is Ryan, and he organizes every time I pin a relevant message, he organizes it in the right chapter of this digital book, if you will, right?
	So if you are in the season to where you're ready to donate your property to it, you just go to the donating property chapter and it unlocks everything.
	And that then is its own rabbit hole that you go down to be able to learn how to do everything.
	And man, it's just, it's just, it's evolved to be just such a wonderful resource and tool.
	And people who are in there are really, really excited about it.
	Well, you built out a really incredible knowledge base, a lot of how-tos and helping people open up even like a Kraken accounts for crypto.
	Right.
	That's right.
	In addition to bank accounts.
	And once you get the bank account open, then of course, you know, you can get debit cards or eventually credit cards or whatever.
	So it's, I just want to encourage people to check it out.
	It's my575E.com.
	And I think, Todd, you also offer a consultation.
	There's a small fee for that, but people get it back if they end up getting a UNA.
	Yeah, they just take it off the investment.
	And I will tell you, that has been so positive.
	And I encourage everyone out there.
	I mean, first of all, go to the free resource, watch the video, the 90-minute interview, and download the 11-page PDF that talks about the 32 positive attributes of operating a UNA.
	And then if you still have any questions, then please just book a consultation with me.
	It's easy to book.
	And as you said, Mike, if somebody moves forward with the UNA, they get it back.
	So it's just like a built-in hour with me before you commit, you know?
	And most people do, by the way.
	All right.
	Well said.
	And let me just finish up by telling people back on RangerDeals.com, there are also some other things from guests that we've interviewed, like VP.net right here.
	This is the trusted, the really trusted decentralized VPN.
	So this is the one that I am recommending, of course, battalion metals for gold and silver and satellite phones from SAT 123, et cetera.
	But many of the guests that we interview, we like to continue to promote what they do.
	Right.
	And sometimes it's an affiliate arrangement.
	Sometimes they end up donating products to us.
	And let's give an update: the Saffrax company.
	I'm not sure they're still listed here.
	Saffrax is currently battling with the EPA over at the chlorine dioxide.
	Now, Saffrax is a great company.
	They've helped so many, you know, hundreds of thousands of people get chlorine dioxide.
	But the EPA falsely accused them of having a pesticide because it kills bacteria.
	So they're having to go through some legal things and some relabeling.
	And right now, you can't get chlorine dioxide in the United States from the Saffrax company.
	But when you can, we will let you know about that and we'll have them relisted.
	But we're always going to bring you solutions that help you decentralize to help support companies also that can help you get off-grid with finance or health or medicine or food or privacy or anything.
	It's all about decentralization.
	So anything else you want to add, Todd, before we wrap up today's show?
	No, I just enjoyed our guest and enjoy my time with you every week, Mike.
	I really appreciate it.
	And I'm excited to see your new studio.
	I know it's right.
	I can't wait to get it up and running.
	I can't wait to get some robots in there falling over each other.
	It's going to be loads of fun, but we will have, Todd, we will have a DTV episode in the future where a robot joins us.
	Wow, that's going to be awesome.
	Yeah, it's going to be a third, like a co-host, a robot co-host.
	Maybe are you worried that it might replace us?
	Like, it'll be like the robot Todd and robot Mike.
	I mean, I wasn't going to say anything, but I'm like, should I be concerned, Mike?
	I mean, I'll be the only one that's remote.
	Well, I don't think they can be as bizarre as we can be.
	You know, for one thing, they're a little bit more rational.
	Yeah.
	They'll have the reasoning model where you and I are the, I don't know, the creative models.
	We'll just put it that way.
	But it would be interesting to have a robot sitting here that we've trained on our AI, our models, and then to start asking it questions or ask it to chime in or it might interrupt us.
	Right.
	Wait a minute.
	I heard what you're, you're talking about me.
	You're talking about robots.
	I need to set the record straight.
	You know?
	Man, I can see it, Mike.
	Yeah, it's going to happen.
	They see it.
	It's going to happen.
	I know you'll make that happen.
	Okay.
	All right.
	That's that's coming up maybe 2026.
	We'll have a DTV robot.
	Perfect.
	We'll see.
	We'll see whether it sucks or not.
	DTVR.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, I will hide my weapons when we, because I have so many weapons here, the hatchets and the escape from LA knife and everything, swords.
	And I just don't want the robot to lose its mind and start grabbing swords, you know?
	It's a wise decision.
	I want to put up the weapons.
	Awesome.
	Just in case.
	Okay.
	Terminator mode activated.
	You know, what?
	I didn't know that shipped with it.
	All right.
	Well, thank you, Todd, so much for your time today.
	It's been a great show.
	And, you know, thank all of you for watching.
	And be sure to check all the other DTV episodes at decentralize.tv and share them, tell other people about them.
	Enjoy all the other episodes.
	They're all evergreen.
	You'll learn something from each and every one.
	And thank you all for watching today.
	And Mike Adams and Todd Pittner here for Decentralized TV.
	Take care.
	Cheers.
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