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Sept. 4, 2025 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams

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Holistic Weight and Stress Management Solutions: Metabolism, Toxins, and Dopamine with Dr. Habib and Sean Cohe

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	All right, welcome to today's interview here on Brianteon.com.
	I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Briotion.
	Are you stressed out about the world today?
	I mean, it's pretty easy to be stressed, especially if you don't manage it well and deal with it in some very effective ways.
	And for many people, stress causes them to overeat, also.
	So a lot of people are dealing with being you know too heavy.
	Um and not easily letting the weight slide off, maybe like it used to.
	So what about those two problems?
	Gaining weight and suffering from too much stress.
	Well, they're related and they're related in some key ways that speaks to some of the solutions to that.
	And our special guests today, they are the co-creators of a fantastic new streaming course, a docuseries that's free of charge at bright you.com.
	You can register for it right now, and it begins streaming on September 13th, and one episode streams for free each day.
	And right here is the registration form.
	I'll show you.
	Uh it's called uh holistic weight and stress management.
	You can sign up on September 13th.
	Here's the form, and just enter your name and email address, and it's free to view.
	So the experts who put this together are none other than our friends Sean Cohen and Dr. Habib, who are co-authors of the book, The Dopamine Revolution, and so much more.
	Welcome, gentlemen, to the show today.
	Hi, thank you.
	Thank you kindly.
	Thank you both for being here.
	It's great to have you on.
	And uh we get to talk more frequently because you two are so busy producing so many amazing things.
	You've got next level gum, you've got your book, you've got your podcast, and now you've got this docuseries.
	How how are you guys finding the time to put all this together?
	Seriously.
	I've just been digging into I've just been digging into so much uh that I've learned over the years and realizing that you know that this is like the core, the core of what I've learned.
	And and I I and Dr. Habib helped me come to that realization when I met him and started talking about you know, my old product crave kicker, and I was helping smokers with addiction, and then my my cancer prevention book and uh all the chemicals I studied and food and medicine that mess up our system.
	And when I started talking to him, he just blew it out of the water and and I realized that it almost everything I've studied really boils back to dopamine and metabolism.
	And if we can get everybody to understand what we're you know, what we're bringing to the surface and and trying to make practical knowledge, I think everybody's gonna benefit a whole lot.
	So, Dr. Habib, what are the things that crush metabolism that really you know really put people on that bad path?
	Well, I want to thank you for inviting us, and uh, you know, we're passionate about what we talk about.
	Um, you know, life in short.
	I think if people had the perfect life in New Zealand, where the air is clean and the grass is green and there's more sheep than human beings, then we'd be fine.
	But I think that uh it all stems from chronic stress, and that stress can be psychological, it could be toxic burden, that stress can be coming from the gut, like leaky gut.
	So we're being bombarded with chronic stress, and ultimately leads to insulin resistance, and that is really the key or the core to why we have an appetite problem, a satiety problem, a metabolic problem, and fuel and metabolism.
	Is it the root or lack of is it the root of most chronic diseases?
	Well, I but I've heard a lot of people think that as they get older, they think it's just quote, aging, that they're slowing down, they're not as active as they used to be.
	I mean, I understand that.
	I I exercise almost every day, and I can't run you know a mile like I could when I was 19, but I can still run, you know.
	I still I I can run 30 minutes now.
	Um but people think it's just aging.
	Why is it not just aging to become like old and fat and you know not able to function?
	And I don't I'm not disrespecting people who are overweight, by the way.
	I mean, I I I was overweight too, you know.
	We are we're all constantly trying to get in better shape.
	But what's the answer to that, Dr. Habib?
	Well, look very deceptive.
	And the the point we want to make is are you biologically older or chronologically older?
	Basically, you're as old as you feel.
	And frankly, I have 80-year-olds who have the biological age of a 40-year-old, 45-year-old.
	I have people who have 34 and have the biological age of a 58 year old.
	So it really depends on your biological age, which is not only measurable with DNA methylation, kilomere length.
	You can even look at the what we call the glycan age.
	We can tell you the rate of aging.
	It's called Dundedan rate of aging.
	So really, if you're biologically young, then your metabolism is young.
	Your blood vessels are young.
	Your brain will be young.
	Your liver will be young.
	So it's very important to understand the difference.
	And frankly, when the function goes down because you're not taking care of yourself, then you're prematurely aging.
	And there lies the transition from civilian to medical, which is losing function is the beginning, the prerequisite of disease.
	When doctors diagnose disease and they call it early, borderline blood pressure, prediabetes, they're actually describing so much loss in function that now at the cusp of disease.
	And that's why functional medicine not only measures the decline, but actually tells you where the glitches are.
	And so you have lots of opportunity to prevent it.
	And should you get the disease, you need to figure out those glitches because there's no way back until you get function back.
	Yeah, well said.
	Well said.
	And what I love about what both of you guys are doing is you're working on solutions that help people decentralize medicine, uh, learn about how your body works, become the master of your own health, let's say, or become your own health coach.
	But in order to do that, you have to have knowledge.
	And that's what this course is all about.
	And I want to ask you, Sean, can you kind of walk us through the highlights of what's found in this free online course?
	Again, folks, you can register for it at bright you.com.
	That's the word bright, followed by the letter U, bright you.com.
	It's called holistic weight and stress management.
	It's free to view, optionally, you can purchase the whole thing and download it all at once if you want.
	And it begins streaming September 13th, and it streams there looks like for like nine days or something like that, uh, a new episode each day.
	But Sean, walk us through the highlights of what people will learn in the course, please.
	Sure.
	Well, you hit the nail on the head.
	Uh the hardest part, I think, for people is doing the research, whether they don't have the time or they're looking in the wrong spots, you know, because so much is censored.
	Um the it's hard to find.
	And I've learned over the years, since like 2007, when I really started digging into doing this, that it's not easy, and it's not easy to synthesize it because a lot of it's you know, medical language or scientific language.
	So that's what I've done as an educator is try to make it practical and digestible.
	And so what we're doing is the the first it's a four-month course, but you really you could you could attack it in four weeks if you wanted to.
	It's just how fast you can kind of adapt and adopt the strategies that we have put in place in this.
	Uh so the first month that we call it optimization, and that's really filtering out the major toxins.
	We're not trying to overwhelm anyone.
	You know, it's not one of those drastic lifestyle changes where you got to give up everything you like and you know, suffer.
	That's not what it's about.
	It's it's simple swaps.
	Um, we're just, you know, pointing out some of the major toxins that that affect your metabolism and deplete your dopamine.
	Okay, so wait.
	Yes, sir.
	Before we get to that, I asked our AI engine Enoch about the importance of dopamine in body weight and stress management, and and look at what it said.
	Stress management, chronic stress depletes dopamine levels in the brain as the body prioritizes the production of stress hormones like cortisol.
	Lower dopamine levels can lead to feelings of anxiety, depression, and decreased motivation.
	To manage stress, it's essential to engage in activities that boost dopamine production.
	It talks about social connections, exercise, creative pursuits.
	Um Dr. Habib, as a physician, does this answer sound correct to you?
	100%.
	And frankly, you shouldn't have to go to the doctor to be in that crisis.
	I think what you're doing is a phenomenal job of educating people so the power is in their hands.
	You know, oftentimes the drug companies will know the details, but they will just short uh stop shy of telling you the information, except now you have a drug.
	And you know, you and you're an expert, you see this uh over over a long period of time.
	And I I what I would say is that um the things that um are bad for you, like inflammation, the things that go on the gut eventually enter the bloodstream, creating oxidation.
	These are these are things that need to be addressed, especially when it's at the brain level.
	And the dopamine is the number one antioxidant for the brain.
	So it's no wonder it gets depleted when you have a bad diet.
	It's no wonder when you uh resort to quick fixes, and conversely, just a little bit of effort in restraining yourself, like a little bit of cold, a little bit of discomfort, a little bit of exercise, that's all it takes.
	And um it's it's about balance.
	But uh you I completely agree with what you just said, and and back to Sean on this, uh, and I'm reading from Enoch, part of our answer here.
	Getting uh restoring your normal dopamine abundance will motivate you to exercise.
	You see, right?
	So I mean, show my screen if you would, please.
	It it talks about addiction and overeating and how low dopamine causes addiction and overeating.
	Sean was just talking about that.
	Uh his previous product, Cravekicker, was helping smokers quit smoking.
	And right now, he's got uh next level gum.
	That's that's a joint product that they've created together that we also offer at Health Ranger store that uh helps your body balance its natural, normal hormone levels.
	So, Sean, back to you.
	Talk about why uh the things that make people overweight or the you know the lack of exercise, that's totally related to low dopamine, isn't it?
	Oh, for sure.
	And what happens is, you know, there was a good article about this.
	I think you had it on natural news a little bit ago, where just a quick binge, like a three-day binge on junk food, can totally wreck your health because what's happening is we're wrecking our gut, our good gut bacteria, and then we're we're toxifying our kidneys and liver.
	So and that's what's processing all of the dopamine for us.
	So you can make up your mind, hey, that sounds like a good diet, I'm gonna try that.
	Hey, that sounds like a great exercise, I'm gonna try that.
	But if your dopamine levels are so compromised, you're either not going to be motivated to do it, or you're gonna start and just want to quit.
	And and it, and that's called down uh dopamine down regulation.
	And uh, and and what people don't realize is that all of these addictions and people have addictions, the common stuff.
	We think of addiction, we think of hard drugs.
	But think about sugar, think about excitotoxins like the concentrated salts.
	Think about just alcohol and nicotine.
	These these addictions also downregulate your dopamine.
	And if you don't know the right superfoods and supplements that are gonna replenish, it's like a video game character with the low bars.
	Okay, so you want to fight, but how are you gonna do it?
	You got no energy and you can't even think straight.
	So you've got to know the the tricks of the trade.
	Well, Sean what to do about it.
	Check this out.
	You can go on Amazon, you can buy a bottle of MSG as a spice.
	Like it's it's like a salt shaker.
	I mean, you can literally poison your brain by purchasing excitotoxins.
	It's like the fluoride.
	It's like the fluoride pills.
	Yeah, it's crazy.
	But but if you sell vitamin C and say that it it reverses scurvy, you go to jail.
	You know, but it but if you sell poison, poisons people's brains, uh no problem.
	You know, I mean, how insane.
	I actually use this when when I have my microscope here.
	We had uh crazy bacteria living on the slide.
	Uh the some of this bacteria that fell out of the sky.
	And so we were actually incubating the bacteria and growing these colonies, and they were swimming around, and we put a couple of crystals of MSG, and the bacteria went insane and then they died.
	And like, yeah, excitotoxins.
	That's that's how they work.
	But that destroys your brain chemistry, your dopamine levels.
	Uh, either one of you want to comment on that excitotoxins.
	Yeah, I mean, do you mind uh Sean if I jump in there?
	You know, that that's a holy grail where uh psychology, psychiatry, and really medicine meat, and all starts with inflammation.
	And so when you have neurotoxicity, you're actually talking about inflammation that damages the nerves.
	And frankly, there's a receptor, and the word glutamate is in that receptor.
	It's NDMA.
	And glutamate, when it's overstimulated, like you said, monosodium glutamate, MSG, monosodium glutamate.
	Scientists use the abbreviations and words very, very precisely.
	Doctors are not scientists, they will cut corners.
	So when a scientist writes words down, so too much glutamate in the wrong place is a science exercise toxic.
	Just on the part about um, you know, when we talk about dopamine and just a little bit of um motivation, I call it um uh emotional energy.
	Sometimes you don't want to go to the gym, and it's like I'll take a uh gum, and that just gets me into the gym, and once I start working out, I'm I'm good.
	So I think um, you know, having replenishing the body like that is a great tool to assist you in the day to day.
	And I'll finish off by saying this.
	There's enough science to show that low dopamine results in high sympathetic drive.
	That's another word for saying your foot is on the gas pedal.
	There's consequences, especially when it's chronic.
	That foot on the gas pedal raises the cortisol.
	That creates insulin resistance.
	Now you're in a state where you may not have eaten, but your body has high insulin levels.
	All you can do is store.
	It cannot burn fat whilst the insulin is high.
	That's a really good point.
	And then on top of that, uh, I'll and I'll direct this to Sean.
	We live in a world where we are inundated with reports of violence, of bombings, of suffering, of conflict, of anger and insanity.
	And shootings, you know.
	And if if we're not able to properly maintain our barrier, our psychological barrier against that, if you let that control your mind, then you're gonna be stressed out constantly 24-7.
	And that just makes all of this far worse.
	Sean.
	Yeah, and I I call that negative energy or gross energy.
	And what that's doing is, you know, the three of us uh we're pretty good at filtering this stuff, and and sometimes it's in your face, you you gotta recognize it, you gotta acknowledge it.
	Somebody at work is talking about it to you or around you, whatever.
	But you gotta play catch and release because if you ingest it, if you let it bother you, that stress, that stress is enough to use up your dopamine.
	So you're trying to focus on something else, you're trying to do something productive later.
	And it's impeded because you have used it up.
	So it's it's almost like being injured or sick.
	You have to think of it like that, because that negative energy, it compounds, and the more you think about it, the more you say, I should have said this, I could have done that, and the more you engage it, you help it grow.
	So if you argue with somebody about politics or you know, and you're trying to persuade them or dissuade them, it's really a waste of time.
	You you you need to just focus on the positive things in your life, and that's what this course is about.
	It's about focusing on what really matters to you and your health, and and reducing and eliminating the stress, which is drives anxiety in the long term, it drives depression, and then where are you?
	Then you feel like it's just a brick wall and you're stuck.
	Right.
	So we we want you to feel good right away.
	Let me bring back the the course here.
	Bright you.com is where you can register.
	It's free to view.
	And this course is going to help you realize uh the mechanisms and master the mechanisms for holistic weight loss and stress management.
	But we're not talking about you know, calorie restriction dieting.
	We're talking about the brain.
	We're talking about uh metabolism, we're talking about resetting your metabolism.
	Now, uh my question to you, Dr. Habib is I think many adults remember that when they were children, they could just run around nonstop, they could eat anything they wanted, they were burning in calories all day, unlimited energy.
	And I'm not saying that we can go back to exactly that, but uh, I think everybody remembers it, or most people remember a time when they didn't have to think About what they ate, because their body and their brain were naturally very active in a healthy way.
	But what you're teaching helps us restore that, but in a mature way, correct?
	Yes, great lead.
	I mean, I just want to touch back on what Sean said, toxic stress.
	So that word toxin can be elaborated.
	And um and frankly, I think that what is grossly overlooked is that as we get older, we're building up these toxins without realizing.
	And sometimes I'll give you my own example that sometimes I'm really focused on what I eat, how I exercise, but it just can't seem to shed that one or two pounds, you know, which is a lot for me.
	I'm very short, relatively short.
	But then other times when I'm not uh worrying about that and life is balanced, I don't have a weight with a problem with the scale at all.
	And so we uh Sean mentioned toxic stress.
	Well, toxins are the root of a lot of these problems.
	So what is toxic in the brain can actually become toxic metabolically.
	I'll be very uh brief on this, which is that when you have toxins in the brain, the dopamine is released from the right place, which is the little bubbles, into the wrong place, into the cytoplasm.
	There lies the beginning of the problem with dopamine long before even Parkinson's, which is really low levels in the in those vesicles.
	This in the same way, what happens with uh toxicity is that when you have toxins in your fat, we call it lipotoxicity.
	That's one of the major contributors of insulin resistance.
	Inflammation is the other one, toxic fat is another one.
	And so if you have these toxins, you may be doing all the right stuff, but it's so hard to lose the weight.
	It's not age, it's the accumulation of at least an example would be toxins, which is stored in your body fat.
	Yeah, yeah, well well said.
	And I also want to ask you, Dr. Habib, about uh psychiatric drugs and and how that alters brain chemistry.
	But first, it's funny, you mentioned that you were short, and we've never met in person.
	You look tall.
	You look tall, and I think it's because of your face shape and your thinness.
	So you look really tall to me, and it's so funny because I was recently at Ron Paul's barbecue event, and some people saw me in person for the first time, and they said to me, Oh my God, I didn't realize how tall you are.
	Like, I thought you were short.
	So apparently I look short and you look tall.
	I love digital.
	I don't know why people think I'm short on in my studio, but then they see me in person and I'm like towering above them and like, oh my God.
	Uh it's just a funny side thought.
	Sean, uh we've we've never met in person either, have we?
	No.
	We need to.
	If you're tall or short, Sean, or somewhere in the middle.
	I'm 6'1 without my shoes on.
	So you're pretty tall.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, see, that's the thing.
	We just never know digitally.
	Okay.
	But I I love to inject humor into our interviews also because laughter is part of what creates dopamine, and it's important.
	So we're kind of demonstrating some of this as we're talking about it.
	But back to you, Dr. Habib.
	Uh, talk if you would, please, about psychiatric drugs.
	And we've seen that they're associated with most school shootings, also in suicide ideation and many other problems.
	Uh, can you speak to that?
	Yeah, listen, uh, the problem is uh uh we don't have a a drug deficiency that we need to replace.
	And um, you know, there is a time and a place.
	I don't want to sound like I'm against drugs, I'm an empty, I'm licensed to diagnose and treat, and I know what drugs can do.
	But what we need to do is use them like a bridge in a crisis situation.
	But what ends up happening is that people don't deal with the root cause, they end up staying on these medications forever.
	And then the body senses this and adjusts, adapts.
	There lies the merry-go-round.
	You're using a drug, the body's uh adapting, and then you're increasing it or changing it, then the body adapts against that.
	So, really, drugs can be very useful because there are situations where there's an imbalance.
	But uh, if I keep it very simple, between one nerve and the other, all the magic happens in the middle.
	So when we talk about neurotransmitters, one of the major players is acylcholine.
	The problem is either too much is stuck in that synapse, which makes it very irritating, like too much glutamine is cytotoxic or neurotoxic.
	In the same way, too little doesn't work.
	So drugs can come in and manipulate it, but what we need to do is understand the root cause.
	Those healthy behaviors keep that balance.
	The environmental factors, what you eat and what you look at, and the exposures, especially scents that are made of Oils, they go straight through the blood-brain barrier and they create tremendous toxins.
	So no wonder people have sleep problems.
	They wake up tired, they have fog, and then the brain controls the gut.
	So it becomes a vicious cycle.
	And let me add, and I know you're aware of this, Sean, you're aware of this too, but the entire category of organophosphate herbicides or pesticides is also acetylcholinesterase inhibitors.
	So now we're talking about an enzyme involved in the function of your neurotransmitters.
	And if you eat a lot of unclean foods, now there's an impact.
	Because remember that pesticides work to kill living organisms by interfering with some kind of system that keeps them alive.
	In many cases, that's the nervous system.
	When we eat those pesticides, even though we're not as small as a as a tiny bug, it still can have a systemic effect.
	Sean, you've done a lot of research about detoxification and also causes of cancer and so on.
	What do you see as the links between pesticide and herbicide exposure and uh brain chemistry imbalances?
	Well, the pesticides are gonna decimate your good gut bacteria, your flora, and then they're going to invade your cleansing organs and make them do a bunch of work.
	So as soon as you start taxing those cleansing organs, they're not going to be able to produce and process your dopamine properly.
	So I think what's happened is you know, organic was like a fad.
	It was like, oh, the extreme health enthusiasts are doing that organic thing.
	You know, it was like a five billion dollar industry 20 years ago.
	Now, I don't even know how what kind of industry it is.
	It's probably a hundred billion, but organ people underestimate the difference between conventional food and organic clean food.
	They don't really know the value difference.
	And the difference is that you've got glyphosate, you've got the weed killer, and then they're spraying the crops with that.
	So they're it they're using it as a drying agent.
	So, like, you know, a lot of a lot of uh like medical doctors will talk about eat more grains or something like that, whatever they can say about nutrition, eat more grains or eat less red meat or eat less salt.
	But grains, if you don't get organic, you're gonna be eating weed killer because they're using it to dry out the grains.
	Yeah, and then and then the and then they're the GMO, if you don't understand genetically modified organisms, they're growing the pesticides from inside, inside the seed, inside the stem, inside the produce, and when you eat it, it doesn't stop there.
	You're actually a pesticide factory.
	You're creating pesticides in your gut, yeah, and your body doesn't know what to do with it.
	It has no idea how to create enzymes to break that down.
	And I just saw a professional talking about how it can take you weeks for your body to figure out what to do with the GMOs.
	And you're exactly right.
	And and I want to mention something that uh maybe our audience doesn't even know.
	But in the Vietnam War, of course, a uh an agent was sprayed on on the on the jungles to try to kill all the plants, and that's called agent orange.
	Dioxin.
	And yeah, well, and what a lot of people don't realize about agent orange is that it primarily consists of just two ingredients that's glyphosate and 2,4D.
	So glyphosate is you know the main ingredient of Agent Orange, or one of the top two ingredients.
	And a lot of people know, well, that you know, that was a crime against uh the people of Vietnam.
	That was a crime against humanity to spray that as a weapon.
	Well, now they just spray it on the food crops in America.
	And people get that stress.
	I mean we're dealing, we're living in in a weaponized ecosystem of food and in some cases medicine, in some cases environmental toxins and heavy metals and you know, all kinds of examples like that.
	And no wonder it's so difficult for people to be healthy and maintain healthy body weight.
	Who who wants to respond to that?
	I just add a couple of things.
	I mean, it's very personal.
	I uh one of my mentors or uh I consider anybody who was knowledgeable, my mentor, but he'd done his time uh in Vietnam and he was exposed to Asian orange.
	And this guy was a functional doctor like I am.
	That means we look at the whole body and uh not just uh uh drug pushes.
	And uh unfortunately he succumbed to cancer, and uh I can only imagine it was the agent orange, and so it's really personal.
	And we actually have mechanisms.
	So everything that Sean said was exactly right.
	It's not what you know, it's what we don't know.
	But what we do know is that, for example, glyphosate positive gives you leaky gut.
	And it doesn't stop there.
	If you have leaky gut, then the toxins, whether it's overgrowth of fungus, enter the bloodstream or the overgrowth of bad bacteria like lipopolysaccharides, enter the bloodstream.
	Here begins the beginning of the blood-brain barrier, what we consider the gut barrier when that is breached.
	You're now looking at the blood brain barrier.
	And now you see the gut brain havoc, I would say.
	Well, and and then what you also have from that, you get these food sensitivities that cause all kinds of other problems.
	It can be joint inflammation, it can be you know, diarrhea, it can be neurological disorders because of a highly inflammatory molecule that doesn't belong in your blood that's getting in there.
	So then autoimmune disorders can stem from this.
	What uh Mike just said has happened to me.
	I can never understand what a doctor says, you know, those food allergies, those sensitivities, they're nothing, you know, they're not real.
	When I eat gluten, my joints hurt.
	When I was in my 30s, I had nodules on my knuckle.
	When I knocked on the door when I would take some food from my mom, it would hurt.
	They're called Hebid's notes, the kind of things you get for osteoarthritis.
	And at that time I wasn't fully aware, but basically it's all really through to gluten.
	And after 20 more years, I'm still sensitive.
	So I have to be careful.
	I don't have sea leg disease.
	But so food is another type of not only sensitivity, I would call it inflammation.
	Sean, I just have to butt in to take your turn and explain that.
	Very personal to me.
	No, thank you for sharing that story.
	And and Sean, I want to ask you this question.
	For those people watching, there's also a psychological shame that often goes along with being overweight and feeling like you're you're not worthy anymore because you don't have the body shape that you used to have when you're younger.
	And there's a there's a self-guilt that comes from thinking, oh, I don't have enough willpower to just endure the hunger.
	And I'm here to tell people that's not necessary.
	You don't have to live in shame or guilt.
	You need the knowledge to understand that your body is just lacking a balance that will make these things much easier.
	Sean, you want to talk about the psychological effects of that and why why we're our message is not you know, drill sergeant, you you just need to be tougher and starve yourself.
	That's not the right answer.
	No, it that's too hard on people.
	And you know, I think it just boils down to happiness and energy.
	As simple as that sounds, it uh say you're 200 pounds overweight and you have anxiety and you're depressed about it all, and people aren't treating you right.
	Well, if you could change, just swap out a few things that you're doing that you're putting in your body, and all of a sudden, within hours, within days, you say, you know what?
	I'm pretty happy, and I've got some energy.
	Now, what are you gonna do with it?
	Are you gonna still listen to people?
	Are you still gonna be sulking because of a uh a mean look, or are you just gonna get to work on yourself if you're happy?
	If you're miserable, if it's like a strict diet, or you get on one of these diet pills that comes from the venom peptides of the Gila monster, and and now you've got you've your anxiety's worse, and your stress levels high, and you're trying to cut out, cut out the sugars and the gluten, and you're trying to do a new exercise.
	You know you can do, but you're you're suffering still.
	So we just want to help people address there.
	There's two or three major fronts.
	Yes, one is food, but you can have fun.
	I'm a cook, I cook, I'm creative, and it's a lot of it's about the sauces, a lot of it's about uh superfood snacks instead of junk food snacks.
	A lot of people they're all about the snacking, they're stuck at work for hours on end.
	Can you just replace the junk with nutrient-dense foods?
	If you do that alone, you kind of decrease your appetite so you're not starving when mealtime comes and you don't fly off the rails.
	And then you go, you know what, I'm not starving.
	He said don't eat gluten.
	He said, don't eat the seed oils.
	All right, what are my other choices?
	Oh, I can eat all of that, but all I have to do is make some sauce that doesn't have canola oil.
	Hey, I can do that, and you're still happy.
	You're not upset and depressed, and you're not suffering the anxiety that's coming from aspartame and MSG and the stupid fake news.
	Right, right.
	Exactly.
	Uh Dr. Habib, you want to comment on that?
	Uh, just uh slightly uh on that.
	I think that uh in the medical profession, it's so easy to blame, especially when a doctor assumes that they're giving all the medicines and yet the patient's not getting results and they're judgmental that you're not doing you're not doing the right stuff.
	You there's something wrong with you.
	And that's far from the truth because that's why insulin resistance is such a such a terrible uh state, because you could do all the right things and where your insulin levels are high.
	Not only do you have an insulin problem where you can't burn fat, but leptin, which tells the brain I'm full after you eat, there's resistance there.
	So it really isn't your fault.
	You can't register leptin because there's leptin resistance.
	So really judgmental is really uh a prehistoric medicine, but unfortunately it's not out of the medical system.
	And I think that um that one of the easiest hack to get your insulin sensitive, what that means is that for a little bit of insulin goes a long way.
	That's insulin sensitivity.
	Get your circadian rhythm in order.
	It's free.
	It's free.
	Can I ask something quick?
	Um Dr. Habib, when I hear and when most people hear insulin resistance, they think of diabetes, they think of people that are like borderline diabetic or diabetic.
	Can you just explain in layman's terms to everyone what this really means to have the insulin resistance?
	I mean, you kind of already did, but I just want to hear it in regard in that regard because that that's what goes right to your brain right away.
	You hear that, and you're like, oh, I'm not diabetic.
	I don't really have to worry about that.
	That's fantastic.
	Thanks for stopping me there.
	The bottom line is this.
	People with insulin resistance don't all end up with diabetes.
	But if you have diabetes and you have insulin resistance, oh boy, you're gonna have a hard time keeping that sugar under control.
	In other words, if you're non-diabetic, you can still have insulin resistance.
	What that means is that your sugar is normal, but the insulin is high.
	When the insulin is high, that's the beginning of metabolic dysfunction at every level.
	You have insulin receptors in the brain, you have insulin receptors in the blood vessels, you have insulin receptors in the heart and the liver.
	And the definition of insulin resistance is to say that the receptor is being damaged.
	So the insulin and the receptor don't come together properly.
	There's a little bit more nuance, but let's keep it that way.
	So if the receptor is being damaged by inflammation or toxins, or just eating too many carbs, or breaking the circadian rhythm.
	It's scientifically proven that the then the high levels of insulin set off PCOS.
	That's those hormonal abnormalities where periods go crazy irregular.
	You have acne, head thinning, and the weight is also a problem there.
	So when people say what's the hormone, the master hormone is insulin.
	Not because of diabetes, as Sean correctly pointed out.
	Insulin is one of the major hormone regulators.
	Of course, you have growth hormone, you have thyroid hormone, you have testosterone, you have all those, but the insulin controls not only fuel at the cell level at every single organ that we just said, that's why insulin resistance is associated with high blood pressure, heart disease, decrease in memory, fatty liver.
	So almost every organ is impacted by insulin resistance.
	I'm really glad you explained that, Dr. Habib.
	And I want to remind our audience that insulin, like every hormone, it's a signal.
	It signals your tissues and cells what to do, which means that even in trace amounts, parts per trillion in some cases circulating in your blood can have dramatic effects on your body.
	And if your body's not behaving the way that you want it to, the problem might simply be the signaling.
	And how do you adjust the signaling?
	Well, through the method, the methods that we're talking about here, which are taught in this course.
	So let me remind you the course is free.
	It's at BrightU.com.
	It begins streaming September 13th.
	It's called holistic weight and stress management.
	And again, you know, free free to view, register at bright you.com.
	But here's the secret behind this course.
	That title just only captures two things.
	Uh the This approach is really a holistic, systemic, whole body, whole mind approach.
	When you pursue the strategies that are taught in this course, you're going to experience systemic improvements across all kinds of things, including moods, including sleep quality, including uh virility, for example, you know, including uh cognition.
	And uh, Dr. Habib, I'd like you to talk about cognition, because uh right now, you know, we have artificial intelligence, and there's never been a greater demand for human cognition to function well in order to remain competitive in our world today, including in medicine, because a lot of, you know, uh a lot of doctors are finding out that AI knows a lot about nutrition now, which is which is freaking out a few doctors uh by the not you, but I mean I've heard that from some other doctors who are like, what?
	My patients are learning more about nutrition using free AI tools.
	Oh my God.
	Um, but talk about cognition and how this can keep us mentally alert and sharp and creative.
	100%.
	I mean, this is becoming the new pandemic, that epidemic where cognitive decline is going on.
	It's somewhat complicated, but let's talk about the major players.
	You can't get away from inflammation.
	But talking about metabolism and insulin resistance, so you have insulin receptors in the nerve.
	So, bottom line is this.
	When the insulin receptor is not working, fuel is not entering the cell.
	Fuel that does not enter the cell cannot be metabolized.
	The extreme version of that is the sugar is sitting outside in the blood, it's higher and higher.
	That's the definition of diabetes.
	But the bottom line is all of these people with cognitive decline, they have one thing in common.
	It's been measured.
	They have low metabolism in the neurons.
	Without fuel, those neurotransmitters are not looking.
	Without fuel, you're not detoxifying the uh beta amyloid and so forth.
	And so what one of the things I want to tell people is that the sarcadian rhythm is go see the light in the day.
	When you start the day right, you might get a better chance at night.
	And so when we get the right fuel in the brain, then you can detox during deep sleep.
	When you go into delta sleep, your brain temperature comes down by three degrees, and that's when you can eliminate these toxins, these amyloids.
	So really it's uh it's a multifactorial thing.
	Fuel is the root of it.
	Getting the fuel into the cells in an effective manner, getting the circadian rhythm in order is is prerequisite.
	Yeah.
	I'm I'm so glad you said that.
	And like you said earlier, that's free.
	And also sunlight is free, at least until governments figure out a way to tax it.
	Um don't give anybody ideas in Canada.
	They might figure out a way.
	Sean, um, what else should people keep in mind about the benefits of what they're going to learn in this course?
	I mean, we talked about many of the areas, including cognition, but uh what else are you hearing from people that are implementing these strategies?
	Well, there's their biohacking, and they might not know the term and they may not be familiar with what it's really about, but they're figuring out themselves and their lifestyle.
	So we're not telling you this is not a one-size fits-all.
	And what we want to do is you you have to make adjustments according to what's working for you.
	So we may we may have five or ten strategies in one module and one video training module where you say, okay, that would definitely work for me.
	I can try that and that.
	Well, that may be enough.
	And you may, you know, the second month uh I call it transformation because you've optimized what you're doing, but then you feel the significant shifts.
	You feel the shifts in energy and cognition, and you feel the transformation.
	So now you ramp up what you're doing.
	So now you say, okay, this is the vitamin B12 is methylcobalamin.
	I really like that.
	He said, take it as the tincture.
	Okay, this is really working for me.
	All right.
	He said vitamin D when the sun's not hot, if I don't get outside, yes, this is working for me.
	So you then you ramp it up a little bit, and you you increase what's working for you.
	You know, once you Once you filter out the toxins, then your thinking gets straight.
	Then your thinking's clear.
	You know, I could be sitting on, I could be sitting watching a show in my chair for a half hour.
	And if I think of some great idea or I want to do something productive, I want to hop up and lift some dumbbells.
	I don't go, oh man, I I I guess I'll do that later.
	I just hop up and do it.
	Like I'm it's ready, it's waiting for me to apply my brain to apply my body all day long because I'm treating myself right and I'm doing what works.
	And that's what we're trying to do.
	We're trying to let people know it's very practical.
	It's not some regimen that you never done, and you've got to change everything you do.
	So I share that with you.
	And and I can't wait.
	I mean, I just want to tell people when when you get the toxins out of your life, and it it brings back that surge and natural energy that drive.
	I can't wait to get off my desk.
	Frankly, I can't wait to get out of the studio and get back to my forest kettlebell workout station.
	It's in a little forest I have, and I take my dog here, and we go running or we cycle, and then we we hit the kettlebells and and we do the the push-up bars and everything.
	Um I can't wait to do that.
	It's like it's a vacation, it's a treat.
	And the other thing I'll mention is, you know, I was what got me into health, by the way, Dr. Habib, you may not even know this, but three decades ago plus, I was hypoglycemic.
	I was borderline type 2 diabetic, and I was overweight with chronic pain.
	And my doctor at the time told me there's no relationship between what you eat and the health results that you get, which was a common belief among physicians in the 1990s and 1980s, etc.
	Well, I've been drinking this for 20 plus years, the smoothie, avocados, you know, whey of protein, uh, you know, superfoods, turmeric, all kinds of things like this.
	And also uh grapeseed extract is something I put in there recently as well.
	So really high end.
	And as a result, and this is I'm not I'm not trying to brag or anything, just saying that cognitively, my brain works so well today, it's the best it's ever worked in my life.
	I could do like a whole semester of what I endured in college.
	I could do a whole semester in one week now.
	That the rate of learning is so much faster.
	I can't even sit through a lecture.
	It's too slow.
	I have to exercise while I'm listening.
	Like it's the only way I can process it because it's so slow.
	But folks, age does not make your brain wear out.
	If your brain isn't working as well as it did in your 20s or 30s, if it's not working better than it did, then that's something that you can alter through these kinds of strategies.
	I just want to put that out.
	Dr. Habib, um, is that you hear that from people too?
	It's it's a great story, my friend, and I think that's inspirational because it's real stories that make a difference.
	And I think what do we all want?
	We just want to wake up feeling clear-minded, some energy, no aches and pains and stiffness, our bowels are moving okay, no bloating.
	And that's uh when you can enjoy life.
	And so what we're describing here is the fact that simple steps can go a very very long way.
	And um and frankly, I think that uh the operative word is things interfering in our normal function.
	We would age just fine and function just fine without medications, and um the what happens is that these toxins are at the at the root of uh our lifestyle.
	So um, you know, I think uh, you know, if if people just understood that, and uh when we're talking about detox, it's not a complicated uh medical intervention.
	Just got to pay attention.
	Are you drinking enough water and that you're urinating?
	That's detox.
	Right.
	Are your bowels moving, the stools are well formed, that's detox and sweating.
	Are you sweating?
	Exactly.
	And one of the main things I wanted to end uh mention about the brain and uh and the muscles is that the muscles feed the brain in so many ways that science is just figuring out now.
	And one of the ways would be nitric oxide.
	Nitric oxide is something that opens up the arteries, and you can get it two ways as you exercise.
	Just walking raises it.
	More blood flow to the brain, that's one way to get cognition, that's one way to feel good.
	The other one is your diet.
	Yes.
	You eat your greens, that's your nitrate, the bacteria make into nitrites, you store it in your saliva.
	When you swallow the saliva and the acid in the stomach, it releases nitric oxide.
	So nitric oxide is common to the gut and the blood vessels and the brain.
	And so exercise and diet is such an important part, but we don't need to call it diet.
	Just take care of yourself, and you'll find that I forgot to tell you, I use uh some some days I put beet, beet juice powder in here for the nitric oxygen.
	GX that has that vasodilation capability as well.
	Exactly.
	And but but I always cycle the ingredients.
	So I'm not doing the exact same thing every day.
	I'm cycling ingredients because I know that's what the body really wants is a variety.
	That's what that's why your taste tells you to eat different things on different days.
	It's a natural intelligence.
	Um Dr. Habir, I have a question.
	What is your practice area?
	Well, I started as a conventional doctor in the UK, and when I did my residency in Tufts University, I graduated, didn't know what to do, just thought I'd open a gym.
	Um I knew what I didn't want to do, which is what every other doctor, but I really didn't know what I want to do.
	There's a gym and urgent care, and and somehow I somehow I was watching and looking around and seeing that my um, you know, the doctors practicing in different ways.
	But what really got me was that is my practice, and I wasn't curing diabetes, blood pressure, all those common stuff because I was well trained, I knew what to do.
	That's when I found functional medicine.
	And so my background is really internal medicine, but I look to solve the root cause.
	So when I say I treat somebody, I expect to cure it.
	Now, I don't pretend to cure everything in the sun.
	But when other doctors fail with neurodegenerative problems and they've given up, those patients come to me.
	When they're on autoimmune disease treatment number four and it's not working, they come to me.
	When they have blockage after blockage, even after maximum medical treatment, they come to me.
	So I do that with the complicated cases, I do with the people that want to prevent it.
	And certainly some people need to reverse it.
	They may not have disease, but they're not functioning so great.
	So uh men, women, young and old.
	Well, that's very interesting.
	But how do you handle the part where the patient has to take responsibility for their own diet and food choices and so on?
	And and some do and some don't.
	But I would imagine that could be frustrating if you're trying to help a patient, but they're like, no, I just want to eat donuts, but you fix me, doctor.
	You know, I have a uh lucky advantage, which is that by the time they've come through the door from word of mouth, they're kind of somewhat motivated.
	But I think the winning formula that I think that most doctors uh who are successful are using, and the ones that are not, stop being judgmental.
	You're there to help them, show it, give them good service, pay attention, give them the time, and what happens, just like when you're dealing with your own children or other children, you get buy-in.
	You're there to help them, you're there to be a partner.
	You're not the physician telling them what to do and be dictatorial.
	And so I think it's all about relationships.
	So medicine is beyond pathways and drugs and diagnoses and testing.
	Medicine is about what uh Sean was saying, that it's about life, be happy, be balanced.
	And we in the medical world haven't done a good job because we need to help people and not tell them or judge them.
	Yeah, I think that's really wise, and also just sort of meeting people where they are, and sometimes uh a nudge in the direction of making healthier food choices can really work.
	And I know Sean, you've done a lot of research and writing in this area where uh someone could be encouraged to replace one thing in their diet for 30 days, just one thing.
	And then that becomes a habit.
	And then take a second thing, replace the soda, let's say.
	You uh talk about that for a moment, Sean.
	We're almost out of time, but but that's my last question to you.
	Yeah, I mean, start off with gluten because what happens with gluten is it stops up your you got 35 feet of intestines, okay?
	And an Americanized gluten has all of these crazy chemicals and preservatives that keep us soft.
	So it's going, it's it's going through that snake for for days, okay?
	So now let's say I eat a bunch of organic food, and I'm like, okay, I had my sub roll and my hot dogs and hamburgers for Labor Day.
	I'm gonna eat clean this week.
	But if you're constipated all week, guess what?
	All of that organic food is gonna rot in your body.
	You're still gonna be toxic.
	And so I avoid gluten at all costs.
	The pasta, the bread, anything gluten, I'm like, I avoid it at All costs, once in a while, sure.
	But if I eat gluten, it's organic.
	And then canola oil.
	See, these this is one of the most hidden toxins in the world is canola oil, because even if it's organic, it coagulates in your system.
	So it causes rapid weight gain, it causes memory loss.
	They've proven it in studies with rats.
	They've proven it.
	They lose their way.
	So if you're not filtering out the major toxins, if you just a few swaps, and you'll notice right away, hey, now, like Dr. Habib said, my poop's regular.
	Oh my gosh, I feel so much better.
	If I can sit down on the toilet and just go and be done with it in two minutes, oh my gosh.
	I met a raw foodist once.
	She said, if you're wiping a lot, you're doing it wrong.
	You know, so well, and I'm glad you mentioned canola oil and the seed oils and so on.
	But I'll say I've never had a problem with gluten.
	But I'm highly sensitive to MSG.
	And I always have been.
	So, and that's that speaks to the personalization factor in all of this, right, Dr. Habib.
	And so we have to be sensitive and we have to listen to our bodies.
	And then we have to do a little bit of biohacking.
	I call it natural biohacking.
	That is try different experiments, find out what works, find out what results, what gives you the best results.
	And then as long as that's natural and aligned with your health goals, continue to expand that.
	And that's wise.
	But you got to listen to your body too.
	Dr. Habib.
	Yeah, look, you uh wise words, so try to keep it simple.
	If you have a diet's working for you, keep it.
	You've got an exercise plan working for you, keep it.
	One thing is for sure.
	Whatever's working today, it's impossible to keep working forever because your body will change.
	Number one.
	Number two, Mike said it the uh best, diversify.
	Just like the microbiome is looking for diversification of the food, which you uses as fuels to have diverse microbes, becoming uh allowing you to be healthy and lower inflammation.
	So I think vary your lifestyle and um and balance is the key.
	Absolutely.
	All right.
	Well, we're out of time, but this has been a really fascinating conversation, very informative.
	And I want to thank you both for your time.
	Let me mention again the the course is at BrightYou.com, and that is called uh holistic weight and stress management.
	It's free to view, and you can watch it beginning uh September 13th.
	But you can register for it now, and if you wish, you can optionally purchase it early and download the entire course and watch it at any time you want.
	And lastly, Dr. Habib, you want to give out your website for your practice?
	Thank you very much, Mike.
	Um, and um I work with Sean, of course, so you can always get me that way.
	But my website is uh the uh is www.nexthealthmed.com.
	That's the website.
	Next healthmed.com.
	Okay, perfect.
	And and if I can mention they do get a free copy of our dopamine revolution book as an e-book.
	Yes, and I'll and recipe cards we've included, and uh could uh the best apps for you know biohacking for like exercise and sleep regulation, um, you know, all of this that we've got a lot of extra goodies in there um to make sure that you you really can pick and choose your tools.
	You know, that's a really good point.
	You get a free copy of this book, The Dopamine Revolution, Elevate Your Mind and Body, which has been very popular among our listeners.
	So that's included if you purchase the course.
	And if you purchase the course, it not only helps support our guests here, but helps partially support uh this network as well.
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	So thank you both gentlemen for joining me today.
	It's been a really great conversation.
	I've learned a lot.
	I think our audience has as well.
	And uh thank you both for your time.
	Thank you very much.
	All right.
	Uh take care, guys.
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