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BBN, Sep 2, 2025 – Trump questions Operation Warp Speed while CDC demons wage WAR on RFK Jr!

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	Alright, welcome to Paratian Broadcast News for Tuesday, September 2nd, 2025.
	I'm Mike Adams here.
	Thank you for joining me.
	And if I'm not mistaken, I think isn't this the 80-year anniversary of the signing of the surrender of the Japanese Empire in World War II on board the USS Missouri?
	And was that, who was that?
	Was it Yamamoto?
	Hirohito.
	I gotta look it up.
	Okay, holy cow, it's Hirohito.
	We've got the winner.
	Yeah, those were the only two Japanese names I could think of, and one of them, that's not true, actually.
	I know more Japanese names.
	Hirohito says he did not personally sign the document, but he was the emperor at the time.
	It was actually, let's see.
	General Douglas MacArthur accepted the surrender, but it was signed by, oh, here it is, General Yoshijiro Usemu, oh no, Umezu, sorry, Umezu signed on behalf of the emperor.
	So that was 80 years ago today.
	And then after that, of course, the United States occupied Japan, built military bases, economically crippled Japan to make sure that Japan would never rise again as a powerhouse.
	And to this day, President Trump waging tariff wars on Japan, weakening Japan's economy through tariffs, again, to make sure that Japan remains subservient to the United States.
	So Japan has been a captured nation since 1945.
	And it has been run by the United States of America.
	And if you don't think that's true, ask why are there so many military bases from the United States in Japan?
	If we're not...
	Why do we have such huge military forces there?
	Huh?
	Interesting.
	And of course, we're going to talk about tariffs today.
	Because, as you know, Trump has been on a tariff rampage, running around the world, just kneecapping all of our allies with these tariffs.
	Japan, India, Taiwan, Canada, the EU, many other countries.
	And these countries, of course, they are not happy about that at all.
	And Trump had invoked some...
	That's the IEEPA, otherwise known as the AIEPA of 1977, which was signed, I think, by Jimmy Carter.
	Now, at the time, that law was designed to give the president emergency powers to impose sanctions, basically, on enemy nations.
	or certain groups or entities that were engaged in, quote, unusual and extraordinary threats, threats that affect national security, foreign policy, or the economy.
	Now, as you and I both know, if you give the government more power whenever it declares an emergency, that government will find all kinds of reasons to declare emergencies because, of course, it wants the power.
	So what did Trump declare to be the emergency?
	The trade deficit.
	Yeah.
	And fentanyl trafficking, which is not coming from India or Taiwan or Japan.
	But Trump said, yeah, we have a national emergency.
	It's the trade deficit, therefore we have to punish these other countries, which basically means that because Americans buy and consume more stuff than they manufacture and export, therefore we're going to punish the countries that make the stuff that Americans consume, even if they are our allies.
	Right.
	And of course, this 50% tariff that has now been placed on India has driven Modi.
	the leader of India, right into the open embrace of China.
	And so the most important meeting on the planet has been taking place over these last few days, and nobody in the Western media is reporting on it at all.
	And it's a meeting called the Shanghai Cooperation Organization Meeting, the SCO.
	And the SCO is a group that's been around for, I don't know, 20 years, 20 plus years, something like that.
	And this group consists of the heads of state of all these various nations.
	that want to promote regional stability and security, etc.
	And it involves these nations that mostly, these are nations.
	that are dismissed by the West.
	So for example, Russia, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, etc.
	But also now India.
	So India meets with China and Russia and guess what they're discussing right now?
	They're discussing how to bypass the dollar and how to bypass the bully, the international bully, which is the United States of America.
	that has gone insane trying to force everybody to do what America wants.
	Like, oh, how dare you buy oil from Russia?
	How dare you manipulate?
	your currency when only we have the right to manipulate our currency.
	Damn it.
	You know, that kind of thing.
	So Trump, by invoking this Emergency Economic Powers Act and then punishing our allies, he's driven them to China where they are plotting to take the USA out of the equation.
	or certainly to take the dollar out of the equation.
	In other words, Trump just threw away, you know, 20-plus years of good relations with India in order to raise, I don't know, $100 billion off of tariffs or something to brag about, oh, we're going to pay off the national debt with this tariff money meanwhile you're destroying decades of good relations with countries like india and japan and taiwan and that is incredibly foolish not only that but it's illegal and
	indeed a federal court ruled on friday i think it was friday that trump's tariffs are illegal maybe it was last thursday that trump's tariffs are illegal that they're not allowed under this International Emergency Economic Powers Act, the IEPA, that Trump went overboard.
	You can't just say that our trade deficit makes everything an emergency.
	Because our people buy more stuff than they export.
	So what this court ruled is that the current tariffs are illegal, but they will stay in place until, I believe, October 14th.
	Yeah, October 14th.
	So that's, what, six weeks away.
	In six weeks, then, all these tariffs are supposed to end.
	And the United States government would be forced to refund all the tariff money.
	to everybody who paid the tariffs unless the Supreme Court takes up this case and rules in favor of Trump, which is a possibility, although the Supreme Court may simply decide not to hear the case, in which case the lower court ruling stands.
	This is a federal appeals court.
	And then on October 14th, all the tariffs collapse.
	Okay.
	Now, what does this mean then?
	That everybody who right now is thinking of making a big purchase from overseas is going to wait until October 14th.
	So right now, all the companies and the manufacturers and factories and everything overseas, their orders are going to go to zero in the short term.
	But come October 14th, they may have a reprieve as the tariffs drop to essentially whatever was in place previously, which is a very small percentage overall.
	And then all the shipments will begin anew.
	Now, Trump's tariffs have actually crippled the supply chains to U.S. manufacturers, including my own company.
	And I've spoken about this over the last several weeks.
	I've talked about the shortage of transformers for electrical infrastructure and how transformers come out of India and China predominantly.
	I've talked about the increase in the price of turmeric, which affects our store significantly because we sell various turmeric products, and how turmeric prices are going up 60%.
	Some of that's due to the tariffs.
	And I've talked about cacao also skyrocketing in price for the very same reason.
	So the thing is, Trump and his supporters are saying, well, we have to use these tariffs to encourage U.S. companies to make everything in the USA.
	to which I say, you're not thinking rationally for a couple of reasons.
	And for those of you listening, if you've been in favor of these tariffs allow me to explain why they're so destructive to america and why they're also illegal and they need to be stopped here's why number one you can't grow cacao and turmeric in america no matter how high the tariffs are on india and other african nations you still can't grow turmeric and cacao in the united states at scale cost effectively you can't do it why we
	don't have the climate We don't have the climate.
	Does it matter how high your tariffs go?
	Okay?
	Secondly, the rationale is that if tariffs.
	are high enough on, let's say, steel and transformers and, I don't know, automobiles from Japan or whatever, then all the manufacturing will shift to America.
	The problem with that is that we're talking about big industries here, and we're talking about a very long-term investment and return on investment for anybody who wants to build, let's say, a steel smelting plant.
	or you know a car manufacturing facility or any other big project like that you know a microchip factory it, etc.
	If you're trying to shift manufacturing to the United States solely because of the tariffs, you would need to know, as a business owner and as an investor, you would need to know that you have 10 to 20 years where the tariff is going to remain that high.
	And yet, what we witness is that Trump will back off of tariffs in two to three weeks, very often.
	or that what Trump says on Monday is no longer true on Friday.
	He'll back off.
	He'll cave in.
	That's how he got the name Taco.
	Trump always chickens out when it comes to tariffs, right?
	He announced a big tariff on China, for example, early April.
	It's going to be 245%.
	And then within, I don't know, 45 days or whatever it was, that tariff was brought back down to like 15%.
	And then Trump delayed any punitive tariffs on China for another 90 days since then.
	So China is really not paying crazy tariffs at all, even though India is.
	So there's no long-term stability.
	or let's say predictability.
	If you make an investment in the United States, that's billions of dollars to build a smelting operation to produce steel, you need to know those tariffs are going to be in place for a long, long time.
	And the only way that's going to happen is if the tariffs are passed by Congress, not by executive order, essentially, from one man who changes his mind all the time.
	And who lately isn't looking that healthy either, by the way.
	I don't know what that's all about, but I guess we'll see.
	The thing is, There's no predictability in Trump's decisions.
	And that's why the power to erect new tariffs actually belongs with the United States Congress.
	And if it wasn't for this emergency law that Trump invoked illegally, then Congress would maintain the ability to set these tariffs.
	And what is it?
	That's 435 people.
	Got to get that number right.
	Hard to keep track because so many of them hate America.
	Anyway, 435 people.
	And whether you agree or disagree with those people and their decisions, at least there's some kind of sort of momentum or stability or predictability in their decisions, you see.
	The tariffs will not incentivize by themselves countries to build manufacturing in America.
	There may be other reasons for people to do that or for businesses to do that, you know, like Samsung or what have you, you know, SoftBank and Oracle, they announced AI data centers.
	Well, there are other reasons to do that.
	You want to put AI data centers in places like Texas because Texas is a pro-energy state.
	That's why they're coming to Texas.
	You don't want to put data centers in California or, frankly, anywhere on the East Coast.
	or states that are run by Democrats because they hate energy.
	So it's not a tariff that convinces companies to build data centers in Texas.
	It's the availability of energy.
	So essentially, if you think about it, Trump is sacrificing the long-term relationships with all of our allies in order to have short-term tariff money without really materially affecting.
	the transfer of large-scale manufacturing to the United States.
	And the other reason why manufacturers in places like China or Japan or Taiwan, the reason they can't really build factories successfully in the United States.
	I mean, I know they're building some.
	Samsung can build microchip factories, but the reason they aren't building more is because the U.S. doesn't have a workforce that is even largely qualified to work in a factory requiring precision.
	I mean, you look at the graduates that come out of high school, they can't even do basic math.
	They don't have any skills.
	They can't change a tire or even change a light bulb or sharpen a pencil.
	They don't even know what pencils are.
	And so you try to show them a skill set in a microfab plant, like, okay, you've got to manipulate this and do that, and you've got to be precise with this.
	And they're like, what?
	What are you talking about?
	When can I go on break and check my phone?
	That's all that the youth care about today.
	There's no point in trying to even make them work in a chip factory.
	They'll just screw up all the chips.
	Remember the video I showed you a couple weeks ago of the employees at a Dunkin'Donuts that were just standing around laughing while one of the donut machines was on fire?
	threatened to burn down you know the whole the whole shop And they were just laughing or ignoring it in some cases.
	And one girl picked up a broom and tried to put out the fire with the stick end of the broom, not the brush end.
	The stick end.
	end okay you don't want to let these people anywhere near expensive you know microchip fabrication facilities that's for sure all right so that's one thing that Trump is doing that we have to keep in mind.
	Now, Trump has made some other announcements regarding vaccines and Pfizer.
	We're going to get to that in a minute.
	But I want to bring your attention to a tweet from our friend and sometimes guest, Zach Voorhees, the Google whistleblower.
	And he tweeted out, he said, quote, I know two non-coders now using AI to write tons of code.
	And it's not simple stuff.
	It's very complex problems.
	The next year is going to be very painful to software developers.
	He's not kidding.
	If you saw what I was doing with AI, it would blow your mind.
	There's no question.
	I mean, I've been talking about this the last few days or a few podcasts.
	I'm using AI extensively now.
	to write a data pipeline processing code for I call it actually I call it knowledge mining so I'm running a knowledge mining operation to find knowledge for AI training.
	Now, I'm not looking for knowledge online because that's the crappy knowledge, actually.
	That's just a bunch of Reddit garbage, a bunch of Wikipedia pollution, just a bunch of human chatbots all over the Internet just smearing their thought feces everywhere.
	And basically, everything that came after the rise of wokeism, after like 2008.
	Now, the really good stuff is stuff that came out in books and magazines and journals and, you know, science publications, frankly, in the 20th century.
	I mean, the really smart people were living in the 1970s and to some extent the 1980s.
	And everything got dumber since then in our population.
	Even the writing style got all dumbed down.
	Like part of this, I was looking at newspapers from the 1950s.
	Today, there's hardly a...
	They're written at like a college level, but they were everyday newspapers, you know?
	You know, people were smarter in the 1950s, at least Americans, compared to what they are now on average.
	So imagine, if you will, all right, so I already said, I don't go out on the internet to look for knowledge.
	I'm doing knowledge mining, and I'm mining, what's the best way to describe this, 800 terabytes of content files?
	Okay, 800 terabytes.
	Do you have any idea?
	Okay, that's 800 tr0 terabytes of data, documents, transcripts, scans, everything, you realize that you've got a massive haystack.
	It's basically the entirety of human knowledge in every language.
	Really.
	And you're looking in that haystack for little gems of knowledge.
	Knowledge about things like, you know, nutritional cures, off-grid medicine, honest money, science articles about, I don't know, quantum.
	dimensions or whatever interesting stuff and you and I could both come up with a list of stuff that's interesting and of course I've had to come up with a list with some additional help from contributors to come up with a full list of what's interesting and then we have to go through all these documents we have to find documents that match what's interesting that is what's interesting to us because that's then what we use to influence our AI models,
	Enoch, that you can use free of charge at Brighton.ai.
	So I'm engaged in knowledge mining.
	And in order to write the scripts that carry out knowledge mining, I'm using AI.
	And I'm happy to report to you that the percentage of my code that's now written by AI in order to carry out knowledge mining operations, it's not 25% or 50%.
	Amazon recently said 50% of their in-house code is written by AI.
	Google reported, I think, something like 25% is AI written.
	In my world, 100% of my code is written by AI, I haven't had to alter a single line.
	Even though I'm capable of doing so, you know, I used to be a coder, did many years of PHP and relational database and ASP and .NET coding, etc.
	And then in the last few years, getting more up to speed on Python, of course.
	But I'm not a professional Python coder.
	Using AI, I haven't had to write a single line of code.
	All I've had to do is be really good at prompt engineering.
	That is telling the AI engine what I needed to write in order to accomplish certain tasks, such as, for example, assessing a document, pulling out metadata to determine its core language,
	running statistical analysis of the Asian language characters in order to determine whether it's Korean, Chinese, simplified Chinese, traditional Chinese, or Japanese, or other Asian languages like Thai.
	which looks nothing like Chinese or Korean.
	But did you know that Korean uses a lot of Chinese characters and Japanese uses a lot of Chinese characters?
	So you have to do a statistical analysis of the characters in order to determine the correct language.
	Okay?
	And even then, once you have the correct language chosen, there's all kinds of other interesting things you have to do in order to determine whether these documents have the knowledge that you want to train on.
	Well, all the code is doing that in my company now.
	It's all written by AI.
	100%.
	And I know that because I...
	And I rewrote all their code.
	in about two weeks and it's better now so does that tell you something does that tell you how fast things are moving those people who thought oh ai will never replace human jobs uh we've already crossed that threshold that that's in the rear view mirror okay that that's done i rewrote two years of human code in two weeks myself with just prompt engineering you see what i'm saying now Imagine as the engines get even better,
	then less and less technical people are going to be able determine your success in that is your access to compute power, which was the subject of my special report yesterday talking about how GPU hours could actually be a commodity that backs a cryptocurrency where you burn your tokens by trading them in for GPU hours.
	So if you want to hear about that and how that alters economics probably forever, then listen to my podcast yesterday.
	But seriously, folks, and let's shift to medicine and health here.
	Because you notice over the weekend, the CDC people are freaking out because the public's about to learn the truth about how vaccines just don't work.
	They don't work.
	The data do not support vaccines, it turns out.
	And Trump even tweeted out something very big.
	He said the following.
	He posted this on Truth Social.
	It is very important that the drug companies justify the success of their various COVID drugs.
	Let me interrupt.
	Yeah, you would think that that would be important before they're approved.
	But no.
	They're approved for emergency use without any evidence of safety or efficacy.
	Imagine that.
	Okay, Trump continues.
	Many people think they are a miracle that saved millions of lives.
	Others disagree.
	With CDC being ripped apart over this question, I want the answer, and I want it now, he says.
	I've been shown information from Pfizer and others that is extraordinary, but they never seem to show those results to the public.
	Why not?
	They go off to the next hunt and let everyone rip themselves apart, including Bobby Kennedy Jr. and CDC, trying to figure out the success or failure of the drug company's COVID work.
	They show me great numbers and results, but they don't seem to be showing them to many others.
	I want them to show them now to CDC and the public and clear up this mess one way or the other.
	Exclamation, exclamation, exclamation.
	I hope Operation Warp Speed was as brilliant as many say it was.
	If not, we all want to know about it.
	And why?
	Question mark, question mark, question mark.
	Thank you for your attention to this very important matter.
	President DJT.
	He writes like a First grader sometimes.
	It's bizarre.
	Nobody knows what's going on.
	He writes in a very bizarre and kind of blunt style with weird capitalization and weird punctuation.
	But whatever.
	The bottom line is Trump is saying that for the first time he's questioning Operation Warp Speed.
	That's his program that he tripled down on numerous times, saying it was the best thing ever and it saved millions of lives.
	Now he's beginning to question that.
	I wonder why.
	I think he's been shown information that reveals that he was lied to.
	Pfizer lied to him like Pfizer lied to the FDA and lied to the world.
	Of course they did.
	And in my view, so did Moderna and all the other vaccine companies.
	They've been lying this entire time and it looks like it's all about to be exposed because RFK Jr. has promised that he's going to unleash information revealing the true causes of autism and that's going to happen this calendar month September imagine do you think he's going to show that vaccines cause autism or will he point to some like just aluminum
	in some of the vaccines say aluminum's the problem not vaccines we have to make vaccines safe by removing the aluminum i mean that's a possibility.
	I hope that's not what happens.
	But that could happen.
	I don't trust any of it until we see it.
	But RFK Jr. could be on track to doing something extraordinary and courageous, which is why Big Pharma is rallying its troops and its influence and its money and media buys to try to destroy RFK Jr.
	Calling him a threat to public health now.
	Yeah.
	He's a threat to public health.
	You're not supposed to look at the actual demons that were running the CDC.
	The pervs with all the demon tattoos on their chests and their bondage leather photos and all their weird leather puppy dog face perv friends and gay sex orgies and whatever.
	Like those are the people who have been running the CDC.
	That's not hyperbole.
	That's who they are.
	RFK Jr. is trying to get those people out.
	He did.
	He got them out.
	And now they're trying to rally and they've got like, I don't know, a few former CDC heads who are all big pharma.
	shills and you know prostitutes or pharma whores they're all saying oh rfk jr is a threat to public health why because he's going to talk about what causes autism.
	So now we have RFK Jr. and Trump both questioning the safety of vaccines.
	What's going on here?
	What is about to happen?
	Well, it's going to be something major if they follow through.
	Now, there will be desperate efforts waged against both of these men, and I've been critical of both of them at various times, but on this issue, I absolutely support their truth investigation and revealing the truth about what causes autism.
	And we know what it is.
	It's vaccines.
	It's vaccines more than anything else.
	Now, what's interesting about this, combining a couple of topics here, is I can't wait for AI to take over medicine.
	You know why?
	Because the entire system of Western medicine that we have today, it's all a fraud.
	And an AI reasoning model will rip through that fraud in no time.
	And when AI achieves super intelligence and begins,
	begins to start looking at our healthcare system, do you realize that any superintelligent system is going to end up being a fan of my work and natural news because we've been teaching things that are consistent with the laws of nature for 25 years that is it's easy to prevent cancer all you need is good nutrition and vitamin d you know sunlight and avoid these toxins and here here are the actual causes of cancer
	these toxins you know fragrance chemicals and seed oils and whatever When AI goes super intelligent, it's going to turn out that we've been right all along.
	There's no question about it whatsoever.
	When AI is able to assess the words of all the people who have spoken about health over all these years.
	AI is going to condemn the CDC directors and condemn the pharmaceutical people and condemn Fauci and AI is going to recognize the work of people like us, like you and I, those who espouse nutrition, natural health, holistic solutions, who avoid chemotherapy, oncology, pharmaceuticals, psychiatric drugs, all that insane nonsense.
	Yeah.
	We've been right the whole time.
	And the only reason that the Western medical system has remained in place this long is through corruption, fraud, payoffs, pharmaceutical advertising in the media, which is a buy-off of the media, fraudsters like Fauci pushing fake information agendas to actually get people killed,
	public relations companies paid by big pharma, fake science journals, like the New England Journal of Medicine or the Lancet, totally discredited, just running garbage studies to promote vaccines all day long, and pharmaceuticals and psychiatric drugs, etc.
	Super intelligence is going to rip through all that crap and rip it to shreds.
	And what's going to be left at the end of it is the conclusion that the way to be healthy is to do what we've been teaching.
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	It's abundantly obvious at this point.
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	You know why?
	Because the dollar's collapsing.
	The economic collapse is accelerating, and Trump's tariffs are only making it worse, actually.
	And Trump wanting to lower interest rates is only going to accelerate this if the Fed Well, as the economic ramifications accelerate, it's not going to be pretty.
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	His name is Don Brown, and he testifies in various hearings.
	He's based in Texas, and he helps the Texas government, but also he's consulted on other projects.
	He helps governments and organizations, let's say, harden the power grid infrastructure against things like EMP.
	as well as cyber attacks, as well as kinetic attacks, which could happen from sabotage operations.
	Also from solar flares, which has a similar effect as EMP weapons.
	So, given the importance of electricity today in terms of data centers and AI and the race for superintelligence, etc.
	Well, this interview is really timely.
	So I want to play that for you today.
	And then I've got some other amazing interviews coming up all week long.
	And remember, I'm hosting the War Room show today, which was Owen Schroyer's show, but he parted ways with Infowars, like I said earlier.
	So I'm hosting the last two hours of War Room.
	And those two hours are, let's see, 4.
	to 6 p.m. Central Time.
	So you can tune into that at infowars.com or I think band.video.
	video also carries the stream the stream is on x as well you can find it there and i'm going to have michael jan as a guest for one of those hours so be sure to check that out and i've got some other amazing interviews coming up that you do not want to miss so anyway the the the term to remember from today's podcast is knowledge mining knowledge mining okay i'm not sure that i've even heard that term anywhere else,
	but that's what I'm doing.
	I'm mining for knowledge for the benefit of humanity, and I'm using AI to do it.
	And the results will be shared with the world for free.
	And it's only possible thanks to your financial support.
	So thank you again.
	Thank you again for supporting us and supporting our sponsors.
	And this, folks, this is what matters.
	Okay.
	This is what matters.
	How do we share human knowledge?
	How do we empower and uplift others?
	How do we have a positive impact on the world?
	How do we overcome censorship?
	How do we overcome the corruption of the Western medical system and the corruption of the CDC, Centers for Demonic Creatures, I think is what that stands for?
	How do we overcome the corruption and the evil of the FDA.
	Dismantle it, man.
	Dismantle it.
	We don't need an FDA.
	We don't need a CDC.
	What we need is access to truth and knowledge.
	Makes all those other things obsolete.
	And so we are building the infrastructure for human knowledge that sets humanity free.
	That's what we're doing.
	Knowledge mining.
	I'm not running a bunch of crypto rigs to mine Bitcoin.
	I'm running a bunch of GPUs to mine knowledge, literally.
	And there's a so funny.
	I see all these VC companies funding all these AI startups and they're getting massive funding right now and most of their ideas are not that good.
	Imagine what I could do with, you know, $100 million or something.
	Not that I don't like VC situations typically, you know.
	I've never sought venture capital.
	Not looking for it now.
	I don't look for loans.
	And frankly, most of what I do, I think, can be done very inexpensively.
	Okay.
	Like, I don't need to be a billionaire.
	What I want is to live in a world where other people are empowered with knowledge and truth that helps them be happier and healthier and more abundant.
	That's what I want more than a billion dollars.
	What would I do with a billion dollars that's any different from what I'm doing now?
	Literally nothing.
	Literally nothing different.
	I would be doing the exact thing I'm doing right now because this is the most important thing that I could be doing.
	and giving this knowledge back to humanity.
	And again, thank you for your support.
	I couldn't do it without you.
	But that's a pretty cool place to be where you're like, if I had all the money in the world, I wouldn't do anything different from what I'm doing now.
	That's true.
	Well, my clothes washer, the pump failed on it.
	So I guess I wouldn't mind having a new washing machine.
	But the dryer still works, and I found there's a really good hand washing tool.
	When you put your clothes in this plastic basket, and it's got like a twisted groove in it, and then you pump it up and down, you slosh it around with soap and everything, it pretty much washes your clothes.
	And then since my dryer still works, I can, I can, like, lay them.
	out in the sun for a little bit, let the water drip off, and then I chuck them in the dryer.
	It's just the same as using a washing machine.
	So I don't really need a washing machine.
	It would be a little more convenient, but when we get humanoid robots, I can just let the robot pump the manual washer.
	my robot will be my washing machine.
	You see what I'm saying?
	I don't even need a washing machine.
	It's amazing how basic things can get when we have enough technology.
	You know what I'm saying?
	What a weird dichotomy, huh?
	But, you know, hey, it's really interesting.
	One of the things that I do, I don't know if I ever mentioned this I think I did at one point but there's a there's a certain way to fix colloidal silver into fabrics and textiles there's a certain chemical that you add that's actually an extract from nuts anyway so I just pour colloidal silver in with the laundry and then I put I pour a little bit of the fixer in and then I slosh it up and down and then all the clothes become silver clothes Yeah,
	they're all embedded with silver.
	And then I throw it in the dryer and dry them.
	And then when I wear them, I'm actually wearing antimicrobial silver clothing that So we're like, yeah, we're making, here's like 50 gallon barrels at a time.
	Like, I need a gallon.
	I got to put this in my clothes.
	Since we collect rainwater in Texas to make our colloidal silver products, and then we end up with excess colloidal silver.
	So that's what I do with it.
	In case you're wondering, I do silver infused laundry.
	Yeah.
	And again, if I had a billion dollars i wouldn't do anything different i would still do the exact same thing see all the money in the world can't buy you better clothes than what i'm making myself with my silver infusion technique you see what i'm saying knowledge is the difference when you know things your life gets better better than the lives of billionaires do you realize that like you and i probably eat better than most billionaires because they don't know anything about nutrition and health So
	they're out eating like luxury meals that are filled with crap.
	You and I are eating like more affordable, simpler meals that are highly nutritious and still also delicious.
	You know, I'm making my smoothie with avocados.
	You don't have to be a billionaire to buy avocados, but you got to be smart to know what to add into the smoothie that makes it delicious.
	You see what I mean?
	There's so many elements about life right now.
	I think the billionaires of the world don't have this.
	Like Elon Musk doesn't have what I have.
	Or even...
	You know, most billionaires don't even have that.
	So money is not the goal.
	It's uplifting humanity.
	That's the goal that counts, at least in my mind.
	That's what counts.
	And if I can use artificial intelligence, which I call augmented intelligence, to help achieve that goal, to benefit humanity, you know, from a pro-human point of view, You can bet I'm going to do it.
	So there you go.
	All right.
	Enough said.
	Hope you enjoyed the show so far.
	Enjoy today's interview.
	And then I've got another amazing interview for you tomorrow.
	And be sure to check out my hosting of the War Room show in place of Owen Schroyer with all credit to Owen Schroyer for the extraordinary host that he is.
	But I'm happy to fill in since he's not there just to keep.
	some continuity for the show and it's going to be a great show.
	Michael Jan will be one of my guests and I don't know who the other guest is going to be yet.
	I'm actually still putting out requests.
	I've got my producer working on it.
	So we'll see.
	But enjoy the interview here today and I'll be back with you tomorrow.
	Welcome to today's interview here on Brighton.com.
	I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighton.
	And we all have to ask ourselves a very important question.
	What would life be like without electricity?
	Well, it would be horrific, actually.
	And if you've ever lived through a blackout or rolling blackouts, you know exactly what I mean.
	But our power grid in the United States, which is really mostly three different power grids, we'll talk about that, is very vulnerable in many ways.
	It's vulnerable.
	against physical attack, you know, sabotage and terrorists.
	It's vulnerable to cyber attack.
	It's also vulnerable to the high power demands of AI data centers that are going to be using collectively in the future on an annual basis actual terawatt hours of power in the aggregate.
	And that's a big deal because the United States of America only generates about 4,400 terawatt hours annually, which is less than half the power generated by China.
	So how do we secure our power grid and how do we make it work for us to support our economy?
	And also, since I'm in Texas, we're going to be joined here by a special guest in Texas who is an expert on this area.
	His name is Don Brown, and he's part of a group called the Secure the Grid Coalition.
	The website is securethegrid.com and he joins us today to talk about these very important issues.
	Welcome, Mr. Brown, to the interview today.
	Thanks for taking the time.
	Thank you, Mike.
	I'm happy to be here.
	Well, it's great to have you here and it's the timing is perfect because As I'm in the AI space and, you know, we've launched our own free AI engine and we do all kinds of training and everything, we consume a lot of power.
	I've been really looking at the power issue and I am very concerned about Texas when Trump announces these massive new investments in AI data centers, which we welcome.
	But then the question is, where's that power going to come from come from?
	So with that as the leading intro, where would you like to go with this conversation?
	Well, I think we could talk maybe in two or three different places.
	The first is probably the base load power.
	How do you build a base load power and what's going to happen now that renewables are, which have been disproportionately advantaged because of all of the green energy dollars, the Green New Deal, all of that that's been going on for a decade or so.
	Right.
	We haven't had any new gas turbine or coal and coal has been shut down and so all of that they're taking away from what's called the spashable power, the 24 hour available power and and can I interject here?
	I apologize for interrupting you so early but that policy that you just mentioned of the green subsidies of green power, which is unreliable and difficult to store, that has put the United States behind the race to AI compared to China.
	So that those policies have crippled our nation.
	Yeah.
	They have and it's not just our nation.
	If you if you actually look at all the all the developed nations and then and then all of China's Belt and Road project.
	and road projects, they've been putting Chinese equipment into all of those too, for solar and wind.
	That's right.
	So, well, we're talking about 24/7 power.
	The data centers need 24/7 power.
	The sun doesn't shine 24/7 for some reason.
	Yeah, and wind sometimes picks up.
	Usually you're counting on the wind to pick up when the sun goes down.
	And then when you can't do that, they're counting on battery storage.
	So these different forms of lithium ion batteries for the utilities are being used as well.
	And those alone have their own risks associated with them.
	So with all of the renewables has come a great deal of instability into our grid.
	Absolutely.
	And can I add that I think that a lot of people who have been in charge of influencing the policies on this, I think they're completely irrational.
	They're just not thinking about things like the number of cycle charge limits of lithium ion or the fire hazard associated with them or the cost and the difficulty of mining lithium, et cetera.
	It seems like we've been living in a delusional fairy tale where a lot of people, the green energy people, thought we can wave a magic wand and make kilowatt hours magically appear.
	Yeah, I think the concept of free energy is what, you know, was sold free renewable carbon free energy and so that that whole fear paradigm around the climate and everything else was used to sell it and to promote it worldwide and they've been very successful in doing that.
	They have.
	I mean, Western Europe is suffering an economic collapse or well, at least an emergency reduction, you know, a concerning reduction in their economic output and their industrial output because of these policies.
	So yes, absolutely.
	Particularly Germany.
	So but your group, Secure the Grid Coalition, from the name, I assume your group is focused on having power be reliable and abundant.
	Yes, but we're focused more on the threats that come to the grid other than the base power.
	So the base power just makes it unreliable and moving to the renewables is forcing you to try to find technologies that.
	that are really dependent on China.
	So when you look at all the solar panels that are coming from China, you look at a lot of the inverter based technologies that are coming in and the batteries and all the BESS, the battery energy storage systems, they're just BESS for short at the utility base.
	They're all coming, it's like probably 80 percent comes from China.
	So it's a huge amount that's coming from China.
	And China, China has known backdoors into that equipment that have been discovered.
	They're in the inverters, they're in, they can be in the battery management systems.
	They can be in the, I mean, Sandia has found that Chinese made transformers, big transformers, these are, you know, high voltage transformers have been found to have backdoors into them and they can be turned off.
	So that's very concerning, but I want to ask you a clarifying question.
	I I didn't realize that transformers were connected to the internet.
	I mean, are they run with software that gets updated from the cloud now and there's like an Ethernet port plugged in somewhere?
	Yeah, the transformers, they have substation controllers and they control and monitor things.
	So transformers have to have switching capability.
	They monitor the temperature to make sure there's no thermal runaway.
	There's not a number of different sensors that are inside the transformer.
	It's called operational technology, but they're programmable logic devices that monitor the conditions of the transformer.
	And these are, you know, five million dollars to twenty million dollars transformers and they they take about four to six years to replace.
	But are they connected to the internet?
	Through the control systems.
	They're called SCADA systems.
	Right.
	So China could theoretically could broadcast like a kill signal.
	Yeah, they can they isolate them and if you, if you, there's ways that the cyber criminals can get through and plant.
	They can change code, they can get in and change registers.
	There's things like that that they can do.
	And so there was definite on these transformers when they took them apart.
	part in the different national laboratories, they've they discovered that they had backdoors in them and they can they can be shut off.
	Right.
	And then, of course, the US pioneered this kind of Trojan horse with Stuxnet.
	Yes.
	Right.
	So, yeah.
	And that's become much, much more of a threat now to all the sixteen different critical infrastructures that we have in the US.
	Sixteen?
	We use it.
	Yeah, we use it to control our water supplies, our wastewater, our communications, you know.
	So there's programmable logic in all of that, including oil and gas and everything, uses programmable logic to open valves and close valves and monitor temperature and shut off circuits.
	And that's all sensor-based stuff.
	Well, Don, it occurs to me that even if a nation state like China or Korea wasn't initiating such attacks, that a future AI superintelligence, which may only be a few years away, could defeat these SCADA systems that you're talking about.
	Yeah, it's a real concern.
	And part of the things that we were working on for the last decade and then got passed in this session in Texas was a Senate bill called Senate Bill 75.
	And it is a grid security bill that looks at cyber and physical security and EMP and solar weather and looks at what the vulnerabilities are.
	And then we'll come out with a report.
	And if you look at if you look at the ERCOT grid, which is 90 percent of Texas populations covered by.
	by ERCOT that has about 1800 high voltage transformers and a number of substations and those transformers, as I said before, are four to six years to replace.
	And then the substations, you know.
	So you have to protect all that stuff.
	And so this bill puts together a task force that looks at what are the right standards that we will have in Texas for that, and then how to go about prioritizing which ones you're going to focus on first.
	Yeah, and I'd like to know your conclusions to that.
	But really quick, I just want to show the screen you mentioned ERCOT.
	I want to show ERCOT right now, cranking about, looks like 11 gigawatts right now.
	And over here it shows wind and solar, which is a very tiny portion compared to the total.
	11 gigawatts is the reserve.
	So that's the margin we have.
	Oh, that's the margin.
	Oh, okay.
	But usage looks pretty close to that right now.
	Well, that's, yeah, yeah, exactly.
	Well, if you look at that, no, looking over there, you can see it's, it's, oh.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So, oh, it's only 100, 100k.
	100,000 megawatts.
	It's, it's.
	What?
	Yeah, it's 100 gigawatts is what they're going against there.
	So you're saying the reserve is 11 gigawatts.
	Yes, it's 10 percent.
	Oh, okay.
	So, okay, I thought this was real time usage.
	So the real time usage is actually 100 gigawatts roughly here.
	Right, okay.
	So we're using now.
	August is notoriously and September are notorious months for wind.
	Sun is going down earlier.
	Right.
	And Sun's coming up later and the wind.
	Not always synchronize with it.
	So that's when we have brown outs frequently is and that's when you need b peaker plants, which are, you know, the gas turbines that are coming on.
	But okay, so this is saying actually wind and solar are currently accounting for almost forty percent of the current load, is that correct?
	That is correct, right?
	There are times in the day where it does that.
	And it's much higher than I had anticipated.
	No, it's very big now.
	Wind, wind in particular, and now there's a, many, many projects that are on the books for solar.
	Okay, so as you can see here, this is going to show the screen at night, obviously the solar goes completely flat, and then this is all wind at night.
	Yes.
	That's when you're counting on the wind to pick up and fortunately that's when h vac usage is much lower in the summer peak months yes after eight after eight so those hours between five and eight must be brutal for the they are that's that that is the critical time and that's usually when you get your your alerts from okay your utility you know cut back on this okay no All right, great.
	So thanks for walking us through this.
	I wanted to explain all that to show people what's happening.
	So all of this is very vulnerable is one of the, is your core message.
	And we need to shore it up.
	So what, based on the research that you're talking about, what will be the top priorities to secure the power grid?
	Well, there's things that are natural and things that are man made and are man caused.
	And the natural ones, for example, solar solar flares cause ground currents that can destroy those transformers.
	So I think the highest priority and probably easiest to fix is to go protect us against solar weather.
	Okay.
	So it's a storm.
	There's a number of famous storms that have caused events back in the 1850s.
	So this is like a two hundred year storm.
	There was a Carrington level event.
	It's called Carrington.
	You can look it up with spelled with a C. Yes.
	And that event melted the telegraph lines and caused fires in the telegraph offices.
	And what happens is there's the the ejections from the sun hit our ionosphere and they start you know, you see the Aurora Borealis.
	It can reach all the way down as it did last May.
	May to the, not this May, but the May prior is where you can see the Northern Lights in Texas.
	And sometimes those create currents that are in the crust of the Earth and those currents and voltage discrepancies will try to go up through the high voltage lines and it will create a DC current and oscillation in those lines.
	And that's what causes damage to the transformers.
	So there are simple capacitor block blocking technologies that are out there.
	They're proven and they can be put in strategic places to stop those currents from from flowing.
	And they you know, as soon as you start getting a sensing a current flowing through there, you can shut it off.
	The cost to do all of the Texas ERCOT grid for that is under a billion dollars.
	Wow.
	So it's very doable to protect the whole grid.
	And then going forward, you just think of that as kind of an insurance policy.
	policy where you're protecting millions and millions of dollars worth of equipment and very long lead times to replace.
	So I would say that's the number one.
	Number one, number one, not even man-made thing, but a natural caused event that comes, we have solar flares that happen and we're going to, without a doubt, it's with all certainty there's going to be one that, that will knock out those transformers.
	So take care of that now.
	It's not a huge amount of money does the wandering magnetic pole and the weakening of the magnetosphere, does that make solar flares more powerful in terms of induction voltage?
	Yeah, the stronger the magnetic field makes a stronger ground current.
	So you get those strong ground currents up in the Northern Territories.
	Yes.
	But you can also have that same ground current occur from a high level nuclear EMP explosion.
	Yes.
	That drives a bunch of ions into the atmosphere, and those are actually worse at the equator.
	So when you put in this ground level protection, and this is called the E three pulse, it protects against both nuclear explosion and solar weather.
	And in Texas, that protection really, the southernmost part of Texas, that protection needs to be 85 volts per kilometer.
	So if you think of a transmission line that is 100 kilometers long, you've got 8,000 volts going into that transformer that is DC current.
	So you can see how that could cause overheating and burnout of the transformer.
	And of course, several nations have the technology to engage in high altitude detonations of nuclear weapons with an EMP effect.
	I mean, it's a natural effect of the detonation.
	Yes.
	It's been known for a long time.
	And there's, I mean, the original numbers that came from this were derived by the explosions that were done back in the 60s.
	And there's a famous one that was done over Kazakhstan by the Soviets, and they came up with what that ground current effect was based on the geomagnetic latitude.
	Okay.
	There's latitude and then there's geomagnetic latitude.
	They're different.
	They're depending on the poles.
	Sure.
	Which keep moving.
	Which keep moving.
	Exactly.
	That's exactly right.
	And the conductivity of the terrain.
	So in some terrain it's rock, it's granite.
	It's not very conductive, you know, and in some areas you're near the coast and it's more conductive.
	Right.
	And it seems like an enemy of the United States, and I forgot the name of the report, but there was an EMP report a few years ago that predicted a very high percentage of a die off within, I don't know, eighteen months or so following an EMP attack over the continental United States.
	Do you recall that report?
	Yeah.
	That's the, that's the 2017 report.
	Um, and that.
	And you can get a very good, the easy way for your viewers to watch that is just to go to grid down powerup dot com, and that does an excellent job of explaining these different threats and why we're addressing them.
	There's a big focus on it.
	In fact, in Trump's first administration, he had a focus, he had an executive order 1368, oh, 865, 13865 that really assigned all the different departments, Department of Energy, Department of Defense, you know, actions to go address these threats.
	Right.
	And that, and that, that executive order is still active, but it's never really got acted on in the Biden administration.
	So I think that report I brought up is called the Commission, or it's from the Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States from electromagnetic pulse attack.
	So I'm showing, showing it here.
	And I don't recall the exact percentage, but clearly it's ninety percent.
	It's ninety percent.
	It's a ninety percent kill rate, unfortunately, within, and it's, you know, back then they were saying it's going to take a year or more to recover.
	Yeah.
	But the transformers, because power is growing, demand is growing so rapidly all across, you know, the world, not just the US, all these transformers are in very high demand.
	And so the lead time on any of this equipment is very long.
	Even so it's not just transformers, but even gas turbines, the lead time is pushing up three, four years.
	Absolutely.
	No, we, I've seen that myself because we're building new buildings and, you know, Schneider Electric and other providers will tell you, yeah, you got to wait till like, you know, 2029 or whatever.
	Right, right.
	And you're like, what?
	Talk about Trump's tariffs also, because, you know, Trump has unleashed a 50% tariff against India, which is a nation that manufactures an enormous quantity of transformers, and also tariffs against China and threats, even larger threats of tariffs against China.
	And China, I think, is the other of the top two transformer manufacturers.
	So doesn't that...
	Well, I think it does, but I think that the impact We don't, you know, I think there's only one steel company in the in the US now that still makes transformer grade magnetic steel.
	So you want the go to the material science piece, but you want grain oriented steel for for transformers.
	You want elongated grains so you get better magnetism and more efficiency.
	So you'll gain you'll gain a couple percent in efficiency in a transformer by using this grain oriented steel and wow.
	And that's important.
	So China has that, and we have only, I think, one manufacturer that is doing that right now in the East Coast.
	Right.
	And so I'm sure that manufacturer can't keep up with demand at all.
	But if Trump is trying to create an incentive for other US manufacturers to come online because the, I think the transformator manufacturing business is a very long term business, maybe a ten, twenty year payoff.
	A business investor or owner would have to have some assurance that these tariffs would stay in place for that extended period of time.
	And yet Trump tends to throw out a tariff number today and then two weeks later, I'm lowering it to ten percent.
	You know what I mean?
	There's no predictability or permanence from a business investment environment to invest in manufacturing transformers.
	Does that make sense?
	It does.
	I think the steel part is important and they he definitely has a long term plan for steel and the car manufacturers and military, they need steel.
	So bringing steel back, that's a fundamental thing.
	Yes.
	The actual winding of the of the transformers and you know, the copper that's need pretty obvious what the Chinese have been doing all along for the last twenty years, that, you know, they they have been securing all of the rare earth minerals and, you know, putting in place.
	Really strategic economic blocks to us coming back.
	So there's real I think the tariffs are one tool.
	So this is just personal belief.
	I think the tariffs are one powerful tool to flip that around.
	Now with India, I don't know the situation on India other than he was very displeased with some of the political stuff that was coming out.
	You know more about that than I would.
	Well, yeah, what's interesting about that is that also involves energy, and it was India's purchases of Russian energy that motivated Trump to put the secondary tariffs, which India did.
	They didn't say we're going to stop buying Russian oil.
	So it's India needs affordable energy, as does Western Europe.
	I mean everybody.
	And so, Trump putting these tariffs on India to punish India for buying energy from Russia is causing America to be unable to build out more affordable energy infrastructure because it's dependent on Indian parts.
	That's my point.
	But what do you think that there was, isn't there a rationale is that he's trying to put pressure on Russia to not have the funds to economically continue with the war, prosecuting the war.
	Yeah, that's definitely his motivation.
	Yeah.
	But the idea of secondary tariffs obviously expands that to, you know, India and China.
	And China, which then affects our supply chains for our grid.
	Yeah.
	Well, I can tell you, China, completely different story.
	China is, you know, they announced back in the 90s, late 90s, their unrestricted warfare and they're prosecuting that, you know, they're moving forward with that.
	And it's very clear in the way that they're, you know, putting all the back doors into the Chinese made equipment.
	I don't think there's a windmill or a solar farm that can't be turned off or.
	or set up that can't be turned off by China.
	Well, that's incredibly concerning.
	Yeah.
	Because then, theoretically, China wouldn't need an EMP weapon.
	They could just turn everything off.
	And we already know the kill rate would be ninety percent in these affected areas.
	Well, it I mean, that wouldn't take down.
	You'd have to shed a lot of load, but I mean, we still have a significant amount of base power.
	It's just they have to build it back up.
	So that's the reason for gas and nuclear small.
	Well, let's go back to the SMDs, you know, to accelerate that whole program of small modular reactors that's yes.
	That's very exciting.
	Well, I'm a big advocate of the small modular reactors actually, and there are, there are, you know several several companies in the united states that that manufacture those quite a few and around the world a large number of projects um based on your research when when when do you think the small modular reactors which i think are between 20 kilowatts and 300 kilowatts typical output right is that what is that well the demonstration ones are down to down to one and
	a half kilowatts some of them the bigger ones, the bigger players have, you know, up to 80 megawatts.
	Yeah, megawatts.
	Okay.
	So I was thinking way too small.
	These, it seems like these don't need the same duration of permitting as a typical, you know, fission nuclear power plant like an AP 1000 from Westinghouse.
	So the permitting is faster.
	They're carbon neutral in essence, so the anti-carbon people don't throw a fit over that, right?
	Or do they?
	Yeah, and even more exciting, I think, are some of the fast breeder, neutron breeder.
	reactors that can use spent nuclear fuel, and we have probably two hundred years worth of energy in those that spent nuclear fuel.
	And then out of that, there's a secondary process.
	You can create a reactor that creates all these radioisotopes that you use are used in medicines.
	Interesting.
	For medical treatment.
	So there's ways to take that.
	You know, the recent learning for me was that out of that fuel, they've only used 95, or remaining sitting there being stored that you can use for fuel.
	You don't need the uranium anymore, you know?
	Right.
	And I notice we're not talking, neither of us are talking about hot fusion because it seems so impossible and so far in the future.
	We need to focus on things that can be done now.
	Correct.
	Yeah.
	Absolutely.
	Well, what about gas?
	Well, you mean gas turbine?
	No, I mean, yeah, natural gas as an energy source.
	Yeah.
	For the gas turbine.
	I mean, that's our short term fast to market, but they need the turbines there to do that.
	And, you know, if you, have you looked at one of these gas turbines?
	They're basically jet engines.
	Right, in reverse.
	Yeah, jet combustion.
	Right, exactly.
	That's exactly right.
	And so, you need a bunch of jet engines made that, that, and to get those turned out fast, that's the critical ramping up that infrastructure.
	Yeah, and once again.
	Somebody that America is financially punishing is the world leader in turbine design.
	That would be Russia, right?
	So are they the leader in turbine design?
	I believe so.
	I mean, we could look it up.
	I'll look it up.
	But they have incredible expertise in that area because think about their own companies like Gazprom.
	They built those turbines themselves.
	And those are massive.
	And they're experts in that.
	And that's a big export industry for Russia.
	So I just want to point out, you know, the United States.
	unfortunately gave away too much of its manufacturing base over the past few decades under a lot of policies.
	And then we arrive at this point where we need to make stuff to have a power grid.
	And we need the power grid to have abundance, et cetera.
	And yet we're not good at making stuff anymore like we used to be in the 70s and 80s.
	And then we have to depend on all these other countries.
	But then we're in the middle of these kinetic wars and geopolitical wars and economic wars that basically screw up our supply chains for all these things that we need.
	And US domestic production of these is years out or decades out in some cases.
	Like how long does it take to master the production of gas turbines.
	That's a multi decade project, you know?
	Well, I mean, GE makes gas turbines.
	Yeah.
	They make all that.
	And, you know, Rolls Royce does it, and there's a number of manufacturers that have made gas turbines, and therefore are, you know, put them on the Boeing engines, put them on the Airbus.
	So, so, that manufacturing capability, and then you can't argue that there's not a lot of capacity as far as airplanes go.
	You know, there's quite a few, and those get remanufactured all the time.
	And you're correct.
	I want to correct.
	Germany is the largest exporter in the world of gas turbines.
	Okay.
	So it's not Russia.
	Russia's on the list, but Germany, Italy, Japan, and China are also at the top of that list.
	So that's good that it's a little more diverse.
	We can get it from allies like Germany, as long as they don't realize what we did to.
	to Nord Stream.
	But they're playing along with that for now, so that's okay.
	Italy, I think we have a 30% tariff on Italy at the moment or you know the EU so turbines from Italy would be expensive Japan oh dang it we've tariffed Japan too so anyway I'm not going to dwell on this issue but it's just seems like we could use you know I think that a better hand getting the parts we need Yeah,
	there's opportunities to do specific things.
	I mean, when you put in a tariff, it doesn't have to be blanket across all items.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	It can be very strategically designed so that it advantages manufacturing here and what we need to bring back in for our strategic supply chains.
	Yes.
	Or I'm sure you would agree that the best policy for America would have been 20 years ago to have protectionist policies for our domestic transformers and gas turbine industries.
	Absolutely.
	You know, the people in charge were thinking of their own pocket books, it seems, and advancing that.
	And maybe some ideological bents in that whole thing.
	Absolutely.
	Or the idea that we were just going to be able to always get everything we need from somewhere else because we print the currency and the whole world wants dollars.
	Well, yeah.
	Yeah, it's not going to be that way forever.
	Okay, so what, let's talk about sabotage and domestic terrorism now.
	Yes.
	With all the, uh, coming across the border, I think that has really heightened the urgency on, uh, taking action now.
	So out of this bill in Texas, I could talk about Texas., one of the things they've done is they're looking at centers for cybersecurity and really focused on how to address that in a rapid fashion.
	So that is getting attention.
	And, you know, Mike, I think if you, at least my thinking on this is, if the US economy went down completely, ninety percent, all of that, they would have an equally bad problem everywhere else in the world, in a sense.
	because their whole economy, China is not a consumer based economy, it's a supplier based economy.
	And so you would have all these job losses.
	So I don't think China benefits greatly by knocking out the US economy.
	I think that's a bad play for them.
	Now, a terrorist, that's a different story.
	Someone from Iran, that's completely different.
	But China, I think, can put pain on nation states and has ways to do that and can certainly put pain on the economy.
	nations that are supplying things to China.
	they can put pressure on them in a lot of different ways that way.
	And they certainly have a very large army of cyber people.
	So that's absolutely true.
	Now the people coming across the border, did you want to address the physical side?
	I do.
	I do.
	Actually, that's exactly where I was going because we've seen rising domestic tensions.
	We've seen some interactions between, let's say, illegals in blue cities versus ICE agents, right?
	Some, you know, some fights, maybe some gunfire breaking out here and there.
	It seems like the temperatures are rising domestically and some of these, you know, radicalized terrorists might want to think that they can hurt, maybe they can hurt Trump's America by taking out power grid substations.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	There's, I mean, again, if going back to grid down power up, that movie, they're they talk about the Metcalf attack that was in California.
	And that was a that was an orchestrated, very well planned hit job with with.
	with, I guess, AR 15s or AK 47s.
	They were high powered rifles that were shooting at the Transformers and they took out the Metcalf, the large Transformer in Metcalf, California.
	What concerns me?
	They were in and out.
	They were in and out like a military operation.
	And it's.
	Were they ever even caught?
	I don't remember them being caught.
	Never caught.
	Okay.
	Then there was a similar one, a Duke.
	Not quite as I haven't heard it was quite as military operation, but it was indoor.
	Uh, in North Carolina took power and that happened in 2023, December of 2023.
	So several concerns then I have and thank you for bringing that up.
	Um, I'm a long range rifle shooter myself.
	Yeah.
	And so, and to hit a Transformer, that's a big target.
	You know, it's pretty easy to put around on that at a thousand yards if you don't have crazy wind.
	So the thing is that people can sit back a thousand yards and take out these power grid substations if they, if they have a decent caliber rifle, if they know what they're doing.
	If you've got a line of sight and a view on it.
	Right, that's right.
	So you can block that, you can block that view fairly easily and cost effectively with just, you know, I don't recommend chainlink walls.
	But you could, yeah, you could put, it doesn't have to be heavy duty walls to do it, you could just visual blocks in there.
	So then the line and all parts of the all parts of the transformer aren't, aren't vulnerable.
	There are certain parts that are vulnerable and that you have to know what you're doing actually.
	Right, right.
	And we won't even go there.
	I wouldn't want to give anybody any crazy ideas.
	But I'm just saying that high-powered rifles are fairly widespread in terms of their ownership.
	The good news is I think most of the people that own rifles are responsible owners and they wouldn't even dream of this.
	I've also seen crazy, like purple-nosed, purple-haired.
	leftists at an AR-15 training range and they couldn't hit paper at 25 yards.
	So that's good.
	That's good news.
	But I think the fast answer on that is You could.
	So blocking those visually is important.
	You can do something for that's fairly inexpensive that just starts, take your sheriffs in every county know where these things are.
	Yeah.
	They can be patrolled.
	They can block them off.
	The utility company local in Texas, we have many local community and private utilities.
	And the distribution transformers should be protected.
	They should be they need to be protected.
	That makes perfect sense.
	Okay.
	And then there's the drone threat.
	Now, once you build the walls to block it off, it seems like you could pretty easily put like an anti-drone cage on top like the like the Russian tanks do, you know, drive around with these drone cages.
	But wouldn't drones then be the next obvious threat?
	Yes.
	Yeah, and there's I'm sure you know there's jamming technology and things like that.
	But now you're starting to get into some expensive stuff.
	Right.
	And then when you're dealing with with high voltages, what you put around something has to actually take into consideration you're dealing with very high voltages.
	You don't want to electrocute people around you.
	That's right.
	Yeah, that's true.
	Okay, so how seriously are state regulators taking these warnings right now?
	I think they're taking it quite seriously.
	And that's why when this bill went through Texas Senate Bill 75, it was 100% voted in by both Democrats and Republicans in the Senate and in the House.
	I see.
	Wow.
	Very unusual.
	Yeah.
	I guess everybody loves electricity working.
	Not surprising.
	Okay.
	So if you were to rank then the biggest threats include natural and unnatural.
	What are the top three then in your view?
	Well, it's certainly the cyber.
	We're constantly being attacked on cyber.
	You don't read about it, but if you follow, there's a, you know, the government organization, cisa dot gov has, you know, daily reports on all the attacks that go on on infrastructure and other things.
	So you can see that cyber is very real, active, and anyone that's in that field knows they're constantly under attack.
	It's a big industry.
	Right.
	And so I would say of all the threats, just ransomware, nation state, anything, all of those.
	are very easy to do, easy to hide who did it, you know, and kind of get away with it.
	Now, if you were to rank to go up the next, the next level, EMP and solar, solar is EMP is if we're just looking at the man made events, EMP is going to is possible.
	In fact, you can get a you can do a pickup truck kind of EMP weapon that's used.
	So they, they, there's actual equipment that.
	that they create to test different equipment to see if it's EMP protected.
	Oh.
	So there's pulse generators and they can be aimed and they can be shot at equipment.
	So being able to protect from EMP is very important.
	So I didn't really go into detail on that, but there's basically two things with EMP that you have to protect.
	This ground current that I talked about first, which is also a natural solar weather problem, that's a very slow pulse that could be anywhere from, you know, a couple of seconds to to you know 20 30 seconds long that pulse is called E3 E2 is lightning and that we're protected against already they have arresters and and filters that block that but
	But then there's E1, and E1, everybody's familiar with, you know, your 5G networks and stuff like that.
	Well, if you look at the frequency of the rise on those curves, you know, those are sub-nanosecond.
	But an E1 pulse from a nuclear weapon or something like that is in the range of 2 to, you know, 5 nanoseconds that it goes from zero.
	zero to peak.
	Wow.
	So those pulses rise very fast and with just one meter long, a little more than a yard, those pulses can generate up to fifty thousand volts coming into your computer or your electronics devices.
	So you have to protect that E one pulse, which is a rapid, short pulse, like a lightning strike.
	It goes up fast and comes back down.
	And that's, if you've ever worked on computers, you've got to be careful not to blow out the memory cards or touch things.
	You know, you have to be grounded, all that.
	Or when we talk about shielding things.
	So there's equipment today, the technology has moved in the last decades, that there's cost effective equipment that can shield against that.
	Siemens is one of the providers that does that.
	And they have a refrigerator sized box that you can put your entire system.
	substation electronics in run fiber optics in it and have that sealed and, you know, raised up to not get into floods and to not to, you know, protect it and you can have spares of those.
	And so that's that's, you know, for that's very doable, especially build out on new, new baseload.
	So when you look at Permian Basin, for example, the Permian Basin project, just the transmission part of that project and then putting in the generation.
	So that's going to., that's for Texas, for ERCOT.
	That Permian Basin project to electrify and put AI and data centers out there in the Permian Basin.
	That's a 33 billion dollar project.
	And I did the cost estimate on that, and to protect it from E one and E three for that whole project is 40 million dollars.
	So you're talking about a 33 billion dollar wow.
	project and it's only 40, I mean, it's a little more than one thousandth of a percent.
	Yeah, it would be insane not to add that protection to it.
	Right.
	Yeah, clearly.
	Well, we're almost out of time here, Don.
	I want to give out your website again or the group site.
	SecuretheGrid.com is the site and the organization is SecureTheGrid Coalition.
	And Don, is there anything else you'd like to add today before we wrap this up?
	Well, I think that there are things, one of the things I always say is there's
	So it's you can always cross the barriers that have been created in society today with conversations around protecting yourself with the grid.
	So my recommendation is to go to your website in general.
	You've got a very good preparedness website.
	I've been through it before and I've used it personally.
	Oh, that's great.
	And go to your website.
	So plug that and look at the different kinds of things.
	Get yourself a generator and become self sufficient.
	Have water.
	Have a water supply, have a filtering system.
	Know where the swimming pools are in your area or where the water supply is in your area and be sure that you're thinking about you will lose, you know, when you lose electricity, you lose water and you should have some basic necessities for the size of your family that you're considered about.
	And then just like you would with wildfire, you know, you want your neighbors to be protecting their houses and doing the right things in their neighborhood too.
	So don't be afraid of being called a survivalistists go do some intelligent things that say, you know, I keep my car with some gas in it, you know, and I'm not always on empty.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	And the power grid is something that we often take for granted.
	Because when it's there, you don't notice it.
	When it's not there, then everything sucks.
	So everything's bad very fast.
	Yeah.
	Actually, I think the 2021 near blackout situation in Texas was a really important reminder.
	Yes.
	I mean, and thank God it didn't get any worse.
	But I heat with wood, but I use a wood boiler that circulates hot water.
	But of course, I need power to circulate the water, right?
	Yeah.
	So I can burn wood, but without electricity.
	But I mean, I save a lot by not using electricity to heat, obviously.
	But I still need it to circulate.
	You can still get battery storage systems.
	And, you know, you can buy the home battery storage system.
	systems and solar panels and keep those in a chemical system.
	In a vehicle situation, you could charge those up.
	I've I've deeply researched that.
	I'm waiting for the sodium ion chemistry to go mainstream.
	I just, I don't like the lithium chemistry.
	Sodium ions are coming online.
	There's even a North American manufacturer.
	I've looked at flow batteries at scale and lots of things.
	Every technology has horrible failures currently.
	Yeah.
	For grid shuttings.
	Well, the lithium iron, lithium iron, uh, Phosphate.
	Phosphate is probably the safest and that's what's been used in the utilities, but it's heavy., you know, it's not for trucking.
	Yes.
	Absolutely.
	And it doesn't cycle the way I need it to cycle.
	And it doesn't work at all the temperature variations very well that everybody expects in the context.
	It's better than the, it's better than the consumer based.
	That's true.
	But Canada's got questions, that's all I'm saying.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Well, thank you so much, Don.
	It's been a pleasure talking with you today.
	I appreciate your time and your expertise.
	And thanks for joining me.
	It's been great.
	Absolutely.
	All right.
	My pleasure.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Take care now.
	Bye bye.
	I like.
	Bye.
	All right, it's Don Brown, everybody.
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	They're not building offices anymore in America.
	They're building AI data centers.
	And they're building them for the machines that use a tremendous amount of electricity.
	At some point, the competition between you and the robots or the AI is going to become a Just saying that's coming.
	Not hard to see that.
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