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Decentralized TV: Joby Weeks on Defending Against DOJ Indictment and Exposing Government Overreach

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	Decentralized.
	Got to realize, don't decarbonize.
	Decent All right, folks, welcome to today's episode of Decentralized TV here on Brighteon.com, the Free Speech Network.
	And of course, I'm joined today by my co-host, Todd Pittner.
	Welcome, Todd.
	Hey, how many episodes?
	I know we're over 100 episodes, but what is it like?
	Yep.
	Something like that.
	We're heading into the teens.
	We're getting into our 100 teens.
	Yeah.
	I want to say we have had some amazing guests already.
	And I got to say, the people that we are booking now for upcoming episodes are also super amazing.
	Crazy.
	Yeah.
	The show is not getting boring or old.
	It's getting more interesting all the time.
	Well, and as you know, we've exchanged some in signal is that we're getting a lot of people that are heavy hitters that are reaching out to us.
	That's right.
	That's very, very cool.
	So, you know, I think they just are liking what they hear and how we treat guests.
	And I hope the audience enjoys it as much as we enjoy talking to these people.
	Yes.
	And I want to give a teaser about an upcoming episode where you and I are going to demonstrate our new AI engine, Enoch.
	That's a few weeks out, but I got to say, I was invited to go fill in hosts for Owen Schroer on InfoWars, which I did.
	So I took the whole show, the three hours.
	I mean, and I interviewed a couple of guests, including Aaron Day, by the way.
	But I demonstrated Enoch there in real time.
	And then during the break, I was talking to the guys that run the board, the studio, and they were all blown away.
	And I heard from more people.
	They were blown away that we have this AI engine that answers like alternative media.
	Right.
	It's amazing.
	I mean, people are just jaw-dropping about this thing right now.
	Well, in the future, when you and I are going to do a little show on it, we shall.
	I just, you know, it's really interesting, Mike.
	You know, that I have my website and I help people keep more of what they earn.
	And it's so amazing.
	Sometimes I'll get on these consultations and I'll get somebody who, you know, they've queried their Lord and Savior, ChatGPT, right?
	And they get the answer back.
	And it's almost like, you know, you know who doesn't want people to know these exist based upon the responses.
	And I just cannot wait for our show to ask the same questions within Enoch and people actually being able to get the truth.
	Well, and let me mention that ChatGPT, in my opinion, has become totally controlled by the CIA, just like Google and just like YouTube.
	And as a result, ChatGPT is now a disinformation AI engine, in my view.
	And so just like you don't want to use Google to search for natural cancer cures because they won't connect you with anything like that.
	Now, Enoch, which is at brighteon.ai, I'll bring it up here, is the only engine.
	Here it is.
	Go to brighteon.ai.
	And this is the engine that can answer your questions about everything from natural cancer cures to the history of money to privacy crypto.
	And Todd, we are now in the process of training it on your material about your unincorporated nonprofit associations.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	That's coming.
	Because I cannot wait to be on those consultations.
	And when I get that kind of pushback, to be able to say, can we reschedule this for tomorrow, same time, same place?
	And no additional charge, but I'd like you to go to brighteon.ai and go through those same queries.
	Thank you.
	Well, in fact, when you and I demo Enoch, it will already have that knowledge base trained into it.
	Beautiful.
	So it's going to be awesome.
	I really can't wait.
	But that's just a teaser of things to come.
	Now, for today, we have a really interesting guest.
	His name is Joby Weeks, and he has been indicted by the DOJ.
	And he has been made a prisoner in his own apartment, I suppose, for years.
	He's been accused of running a crypto Ponzi scheme and bilking investors of all kinds of money.
	But he denies those accusations.
	And he says it's because of his political speech and his proximity to concepts like what Ron Paul would espouse of honest money that made him a target of the system.
	Yeah.
	And so we're going to hear from him his story.
	And then those of you watching, you can make up your own mind about what you think is happening.
	So what do you think, Todd?
	Is this going to be interesting?
	This is going to be very interesting.
	And as I understand it, he is like a drinking water from a fire host.
	Yeah.
	You know, he's just so energetic.
	And the thing that I sensed about him from talking to him before the show is he is just oddly full of joy.
	You can just see it, feel his energy, right?
	And it's all of the crap he's gone through, but to still be able to maintain that smile and jovial air about him, I cannot wait.
	Well, actually, you could say he's jobial.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	And if you take the B out of his name, it does spell joy, actually.
	So.
	Right.
	There you go.
	He is.
	He is joy and he's jovial.
	Somehow he has a smile on his face after being thrown around the prison system for something like six years and now made a prisoner in his own home.
	And what he has to share with all of us here, I think, is there's a stern warning in this about the cost that some people pay when they buck the system.
	Right.
	So let's just go right to the interview and hear his story, and then we'll talk more afterwards.
	Sound good?
	You got it.
	All right.
	Here we go.
	All right.
	Joining us now is Joby Weeks himself.
	Welcome, Joby.
	It's great to have you on the show.
	Thanks for joining me today.
	And we're going to have a great discussion.
	I'm stoked.
	I loved your show.
	I love reading everything you put out.
	You've been a hero of mine for decades.
	Oh, man.
	That's that's that's too much.
	Uh, look, I just want to say thank you for taking the time to join both of us.
	Todd has a lot of questions as well.
	We're both going to ask you some questions and let's let's do this.
	I want to start from an audience skepticism point of view.
	I want let's hear from your point of view, uh, what happened to you, this malicious persecution, which has gone on for many, many years.
	Explain to our audience what led up to your present day state where you're still basically a prisoner without a trial.
	Give us the quick background.
	Ron Paul came out with the Health Freedom Protection Act, and my family was involved in nutraceuticals.
	They got in very early with a company called Manatech out of Dallas.
	I got my first taste of the status quo war between good and evil face to face with the pharmaceutical cartel.
	So we had this battle with the pharmaceutical cartel and the attorney generals and FDA guys.
	But I became wealthy.
	By 19, I was a millionaire and I took off and I traveled the world.
	I went to 100 countries and I started investing and I found electronic cigarettes and I thought, oh, this has to be healthier than smoking.
	Well, it turns out it's not.
	And now, you know, we had a battle with the tobacco cartel.
	So I became the regional currency officer for the Liberty Dollar.
	That was interesting until the feds came in with machine guns and stole all of our silver.
	We had about $5 million worth of gold, silver, platinum, and copper Ron Paul coins.
	And when I sat down, I found out there was an investigation going on me.
	I couldn't tell if it was the tobacco cartel, the oil cartel, the bacon cartel, the pharmaceutical cartel.
	I didn't know who was who I made mad because I thought I was pretty much making all of them mad.
	Yes.
	So long of the short, Bitcoin comes out.
	Nobody knows what a Bitcoin is.
	We had all the minting equipment.
	So we designed the Bitcoin logo to kind of give it a visual.
	And we learned about these private keys, these wallets.
	And instead of Writing down your 24-word seed on a piece of paper that is not fireproof or floodproof.
	Instead, we bought a laser etch machine and we laser etched the private key into the back of the coin.
	We called it a cold storage coin.
	And so I was wanting to bring the hard money guys that didn't understand Bitcoin, but they understood gold and silver with these cypherpunk crypto kids and kind of smash them together so you could actually get a Bitcoin on a physical gold or silver coin, right?
	Uh-huh.
	Right?
	So those went viral.
	The Bitcoin logo went everywhere.
	Then we started designing all the other logos for all the other popular cryptocurrencies and made cold storage coins.
	And that was really rocking.
	And then some, you know, I got my first Bitcoin on the Silk Road when it was 85 cents, about 250 Bitcoins for 200 bucks.
	And I thought, oh, this is a very clever invention.
	And then somebody came to me and said, well, there's a currency called Bitcoin that runs on the BitTorrent network where you have all these nodes everywhere and you can actually transfer value across the internet without having to go through a trusted third party, like a bank or a government.
	You can't get your accounts frozen.
	I thought, oh, this is a great invention.
	So I bought a bunch of it.
	And then I found out about mining and these machines that print money.
	And I'm like, huh, you know, that sounds very clever.
	If anybody has an extra laptop computer in their attic collecting dust, you can just go and open it up and run some software.
	And that laptop generates you a dollar a day in Bitcoin.
	You're just donating your computer processing power to help secure the blockchain and support the network.
	And in exchange, you're getting some of this free Bitcoin that's being mined.
	And then the light bulb went off.
	And I said, well, a laptop computer is only generating a dollar a day.
	What if I put a million laptop computers in a data center?
	I'd make a million bucks a day.
	So that's what we decided to do.
	And I ended up building these monster data centers, like the biggest Bitcoin mines in the world, hundreds of millions of dollars.
	Tell us about the details of your case because you've been under St. Kitts to get a second passport because the crypto space was blacklisted.
	The bank accounts were getting shut down.
	All the crypto companies would not allow U.S. citizens to join.
	So I had to become a saint ketician.
	I bought a house next door to Roger Ver.
	We became friends.
	We became Saint Ketitians.
	Well, I thought I was becoming a Saint Ketician, but when the passports came, my wife's passport shows up, but mine doesn't.
	I say, why isn't mine there?
	And they said, well, there's an investigation going on on you.
	I said, really?
	Who's investigating me?
	And they said, they don't know.
	So I called up these CIA guys that I know that catch, you know, hackers and do moonlight jobs on the side, you know, catching animal poachers and stuff.
	And I asked them, do you guys know why I'm being investigated or if it's true?
	They called me back and said, yeah, some guys at the treasury are investigating you.
	So I said, well, set up a meeting.
	I'd love to go find out what for.
	So I fly to Washington, D.C., and I meet these agents.
	And I'm like, I'm going there because I want to catch hackers because I had just been hacked for 50 million bucks.
	I became a huge target for the government and the hackers.
	And so long on the short, I go with, I'm like talking to these agents.
	I'm like, I want to catch these hackers.
	I got these guys, this team that can catch the ransomware guys that lock up the hospitals and stuff.
	What are you guys investigating me for?
	And they're like, they want to know all about BitClub.
	So I tell them about BitClub.
	I think the thing is over about an hour after the meeting.
	I fly back down to St. Kitts.
	I tell them the investigation should be over.
	Can I have my passport back?
	They say, no, the investigation is still going on.
	Then I get a call.
	One of the data centers just got raided.
	So I call up the agents.
	I'm like, what's going on?
	Why did you raid the data center?
	You have my phone number.
	So they're like, well, we have some more questions.
	I'm like, no problem.
	I got extra Tony Robbins tickets at the Date with Destiny event in West Palm Beach.
	Come and meet me.
	We can go to Tony Robbins.
	And then after that, we can have lunch and you can ask me the questions.
	I get to Tony Robbins.
	They surround me.
	So I get taken to this.
	I get arrested, kidnapped.
	I call it kidnapped because they wouldn't even take me to jail.
	They wouldn't let me see a judge or talk to the lawyers.
	They took me to this unmarked building and they're drilling me for my private keys.
	They want to steal my Bitcoin.
	Really?
	Okay.
	And for about six hours, I'm like, if you're really cops, I get to see a judge.
	I have a right to go to jail.
	I have a right to an attorney.
	And for six hours, they're like, give us your keys.
	I'm like, I need money for bail and to hire lawyers.
	I can't give you the keys.
	And so they got mad at me.
	And for the next 11 months, they bounced me around the country from jail to jail to jail to jail and state to state to state to state.
	My family didn't know where I was.
	It was crazy, man.
	Wait, wait, wait a minute.
	This sounds like a kidnap and ransom operation run by spooks.
	Yeah, it was a heist.
	It was a heist.
	I broke no laws.
	There's no victims.
	There's no injured party.
	There's no one was standing to sue.
	We turned $700 million into $10 billion.
	Everybody got paid.
	And then I got kidnapped for it.
	I thought it was going to be on the cover of Time magazine.
	But no, I ended up being bounced all over.
	This was back before there was BlackRock and Goldman Sachs and a Bitcoin strategic reserve.
	They were actually quite against Bitcoin back then.
	But at what point did the DOJ get involved in threatened charges?
	Oh, they indicted me for wire fraud and conspiracy to sell an unregistered security.
	They're trying to say computer equipment is a security.
	Wow, Todd.
	Like, if there's fraud, doesn't there have to be a victim that was defrauded?
	Who are the victims?
	Well, right.
	I guess the victims would be the Federal Reserve.
	It's a monopoly on money.
	Todd, why don't you jump in with your first question here?
	There's a lot more to the story, but Todd, go ahead and jump in.
	Can I see your ankle monitor?
	So they tell me I'm a flight risk.
	No witnesses.
	Ron Paul wrote a letter to the judge after being on bounce.
	They denied me bail and a trial.
	And I was like, Ron, my only political contact was Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul.
	I didn't like anybody else.
	I wasn't friends with anybody else.
	All I wanted was Ron Paul.
	And then I realized this is a political thing.
	This is an illegal thing.
	And so he even wrote a letter to the judge being like, due process works like this.
	You get indicted, you get arrested, you get bail, you get a trial.
	And if you're convicted after the trial, then you go to jail.
	They skip all that.
	They kidnap me.
	They stole my stuff.
	They denied me bail and they denied me a trial.
	And they just threw me straight in jail.
	How long have you been sporting that ankle monitor?
	Six years.
	Dude, this has been a six-year ordeal.
	The government has asked for 35 continuances.
	They cannot go to trial.
	And so the craziest story, dude.
	You have to tell me because something like that would drive me absolutely insane.
	How in the hell do you get used to wearing an ankle monitor for six years?
	Not only an ankle monitor.
	I cannot walk out of this apartment.
	I can't go to the gym.
	I can't go to church.
	Wow.
	I can't use a phone.
	I can't use a computer.
	I can't have a bank account or a job or use crypto.
	I'm on two drug tests a week.
	It's been 2,000 days since they kicked me.
	Okay, let's talk about the okay.
	There's this peach of a guy on YouTube, and he's called the Crypto Ponzi Scheme Avenger.
	Okay.
	And he claims, and I quote, Joby Weeks is a convicted crypto Ponzi schemer promoter who spent years misleading investors, perpetrating one of the biggest financial frauds in crypto history, end quote.
	Can you please educate us on, in your view, what is a Ponzi scheme legally and why is the BitClub network not one?
	Ponzi schemes are just money games where there's no actual products being bought or sold.
	So like social security would be a Ponzi scheme.
	That's the biggest one in the world.
	Right.
	That's what got me in trouble because I used to lecture at all the countries and all the stages.
	Thousands of people would come and see me and I'd be like, the Federal Reserve, Wall Street's a Ponzi.
	The Social Security thing is a Ponzi scam.
	And then, you know, then, of course, I, they attack me for it.
	But that's what a Ponzi.
	Listen, BitClub was selling.
	I was selling.
	I was a vendor selling physical Bitcoin mining hardware to my customers.
	They took delivery.
	They paid it.
	You know, I went in after the government was like, there was no Bitcoin mining taking place.
	It was all big Ponzi.
	And I'm like, here are the pictures of the data centers and all the equipment.
	And here are the invoices.
	And here's the power bills.
	And here's the wallet that they mined the Bitcoin.
	Here's where everything is tracked on the blockchain.
	It's 100% transparent.
	That guy doesn't know what the heck he's talking about.
	I've never heard of him.
	But, you know, that's why I'm on your show to try to unmix a mixed message.
	And, you know, my lawyers, after taking $5 million from me, who did absolutely nothing, told me to not do interviews, to not do podcasts and write stories and just be quiet.
	Let us handle it.
	And they just tried to railroad me.
	But it sounds like it's not being handled at all.
	Like you're stuck in limbo purgatory.
	It is now.
	Here's my.
	So the day Donald Trump gets elected, I'm like, oh, I don't have to deal with this Biden lawfare anymore.
	The weaponization of government.
	Name someone that's been on pre-trial for six years with 35 government continuances begging the judge not to make them go to trial because they don't have any witnesses.
	We've gone through 11 prosecutors.
	Oh my God.
	Prosecutors, four U.S. attorneys.
	They come on, they read my motions, and then they quit.
	I wrote my motions in a way where anybody that reads the motions, I report all these crimes that these felonies that they're doing that the government's doing.
	And so when they read it, it's filed as a complaint.
	And so now they have two choices.
	They either have to do something about it or they quit because otherwise it's called a missed prison of a felony and they become accessories after the fact.
	So what happened was when Donald Trump got elected, the day he got elected, I filed a $22.2 billion counterclaim against six judges, 11 prosecutors, the SEC, the IRS, the FBI, 50 agents, the clerks.
	I love that.
	They're all in cahoots.
	I filed it under RICO, the Tuckers Act, the Sherman Antitrust Act, the Hobbes Act.
	I mean, I don't know anybody else in the country that's suing six judges right now.
	Do you guys?
	Let me ask you this.
	I mean, I'm absolutely fascinated that you dismissed your attorneys and are representing yourself, as I understand it, claiming that you've studied over 30,000 pages of law and rejecting compartmentalized legal training.
	What drives that decision?
	And how did you navigate the complexities of federal litigation on your own?
	Good question.
	Well, like I said, I grew up in the pharmaceutical cartel battle and I realized that doctors are trained by pharmaceutical companies to sell drugs.
	They don't understand how to cure anything.
	It's like arthritis, cellbrix, allergies, clarinets, diabetes, insulin.
	They don't know how to fix the root cause of why you're sick in the first place because they're compartmentalized.
	So then they have their specialties, the endocrinologist and the immunologist and the cardiologist, right?
	So they don't know how the body actually works.
	Then the medical money go around, they call it.
	So I knew that.
	And then I figured, oh, well, then the lawyers have to be the same, right?
	Because there's 250,000 pages of the law, titles one to 50.
	If you read for 10 hours a day, it would take you 10 years to read the law once.
	And that's just federal, right?
	Nobody knows law.
	So what judge or lawyer has done it?
	No, none.
	So they're compartmentalized too.
	They got their securities lawyers and the traffic court guys and the family court guys and the military lawyers and the white collar guys.
	And, you know, they don't know it.
	And I had David Boyce, the top lawyer and David Stone.
	I had five Davids, if you could believe it.
	Five Davids and I'm out 5 million bucks.
	I thought it was smart.
	They're like Democrat operatives.
	Hunter Biden worked for David Boyce for 10 years.
	So I'm like, oh, if I hire this guy, maybe he'll have some in with the Bidens, right?
	We get this thing over with.
	No.
	What were you going to say, Mike?
	Well, I was going to say that.
	So you filed this counterclaim for over $22 billion, but what's the status of that?
	I mean, how is there, is there an exit path for you to resolve this and get your life back?
	Because since Trump won, the war on crypto in America has ceased.
	Now crypto is being embraced by the Trump administration.
	And it seems to me like these kinds of overzealous prosecutions of people like you and Roger Vere and others need to be dropped, concluded, whatever.
	What's your exit?
	Blanche wrote an article or memorandum on April 7th saying drop these lawsuits against companies like ours.
	And it wasn't even my company.
	That's the crazy part about it.
	I didn't own BitClub.
	I didn't run BitClub.
	I didn't control the money of the computers.
	I just, they hired me to go build data centers for them.
	And I got in trouble.
	It's like, it's like if I'm the gasoline guy at the gas station, filling people's gas tanks and I fill up a van full of gas and then those guys in that van go and rob a bank and then I could go away.
	And then the police come and they arrest me because I was the guy that sold that van a bunch of gasoline and then they committed a crime.
	I mean, it's absurd.
	It's because I've been way outspoken.
	That's what it is.
	It's my political beliefs of liberty and freedom and sound money and private property and all the Ron Paul lingo that I think is what really got me in trouble.
	Listen, I sat there in jail being bounced all around for 11 months and my attorneys come to me and say, well, they say you're a flight risk.
	They're not letting you out.
	And they say it's a complex case.
	So they're not giving you a trial because it's called an ends of justice thing.
	They have the little loopholes where they can get around the bill of rights and stuff.
	You know, you have a right to repair arms unless you're a felon.
	It doesn't say that.
	It says shall not be infringed.
	It doesn't say unless you're a felon, but they make all these little loopholes so they don't have to follow the constitution.
	So my lawyer said to me, what would you rather have?
	Or what would you rather be?
	One year in jail and guilty or five years in jail and innocent.
	And I'm thinking to myself, what do you mean?
	I want to be one year in jail and innocent, not five years in jail and innocent.
	What the heck can they say?
	Well, they're going to eventually have to give you a trial, but that's not going to be for like another five years because it's a complex case.
	But they'll let you out tomorrow if you say two plus two is five.
	If you admit to assassinating Abraham Lincoln, I'm like, but it's physically impossible for me to assassinate Abraham Lincoln.
	He died 150 years ago.
	That's not the point.
	Everybody's acting in courts.
	They're acting this and acting that.
	If you just say you killed Abraham Lincoln and admit to a crime you didn't commit, they'll let you go tomorrow.
	And that's how they do it.
	They kidnap you and they throw you in jail.
	And two, three years later, they bring a piece of paper and they say, hey, if you sign this paper, you go home tomorrow.
	If you find us at trial, you're looking at 20 years.
	Well, they did that to all the J6 protesters.
	Everybody signs it because why wouldn't you sign it if you could go home tomorrow?
	And that's what they came to me.
	And I'm thinking, I got a one-year-old daughter named Liberty who's learning to walk and talk without me because I'm sitting here being bounced around the country.
	So I talked to him and my lawyers were like, listen, when you get out, they'll give you bail when you get out.
	You can always reverse your plea because you can do that before sentencing.
	And so, and it was funny because they wanted me to be a cooperator so I could go catch bad guys.
	Well, I read the law and I realized that they are the bad guys.
	They're like, you're supposed to help us catch criminals.
	I'm like, you guys are the criminals.
	How much was your bail?
	$2 million.
	Wow.
	I told them I didn't want their cooperation 52K letter or whatever it's called because they're the criminals.
	I'd like to go to my friends and try to turn them in for stuff.
	They're harming nobody.
	They wanted me to testify against the BitClub guys.
	Well, for all I know, and I didn't look at their books or anything, but they did what they said they were going to do to me and the million plus members that they had around the country, around the world.
	They had a million people.
	It was the fastest growing company.
	It wasn't even a company.
	It was a private membership association.
	They didn't use dollars.
	They didn't touch the U.S. financial system in any way.
	But they were the fastest company or PMA, a private membership association, to hit a billion dollars in sales.
	So you think that's why they came after you was because it was becoming a legitimate threat to the banking cartel?
	We would have 100 million people in BitClub right now.
	I mean, listen to that.
	We were making 50 Bitcoins a day and 350 Ethereum a day.
	That's $5 million a day we were generating, Mike.
	It's been shut down for 2,000 days.
	Now, who's got the equipment?
	That's what I want to know.
	Are they still mining the Bitcoin?
	I mean, some of that equipment's obsolete, but you can imagine early on they were surely mining.
	And remember that the Trump administration recently announced that they weren't going to use taxpayer dollars to buy Bitcoin, but they would expand their Bitcoin wallets owned by the government by confiscating it from people through confiscations, right?
	Todd?
	You saw that.
	They're supposed to have a new process before they steal your seat.
	But they don't.
	But that's the thing.
	It's like, we're just going to steal it from people like you is what it sounds like.
	But Joby, we're actually almost out of time today for this.
	So I want you to put an end cap on this.
	Like, what's next?
	Where are you with this?
	Is there some light at the end of the tunnel on this?
	Listen, I've surrendered.
	I've forgiven.
	God is in control.
	I sure hope so.
	I don't know how long they can keep you on house arrest without giving you a trial, but here I am six years later.
	I believe God's timing's perfect.
	I'm getting to live all the Bible characters in one lifetime.
	My name is Joby, Job, right?
	You remember the battle between God and the devil over Job, the perfect guy in the world, the only guy described in the Bible as perfect besides Jesus.
	And then, of course, Paul was bounced around from jail to jail and Jonah and the whale and Daniel Lionstan and Joseph.
	He went to jail for 10 years.
	He became number two of two next to Pharaoh.
	Now I feel like I'm like, Moses, Pharaoh, let my people go.
	Who knows?
	I mean, God has works in mysterious ways.
	I just had a new little baby who my wife did.
	His name is Legendary.
	Oh, man.
	I got Liberty and Legendary.
	This is his first podcast.
	Legendary is what?
	About six weeks, seven weeks.
	Hi, guys.
	Hi, I'm Legendary.
	Hey, Legendary.
	Wow.
	What a kid.
	I don't know.
	I gave it all up to God a long time ago.
	And whatever he wants.
	I'm happy being a billionaire.
	I'm happy being broke.
	I'm happy in jail.
	I'm happy free.
	I am just sitting back and letting him work his miracles.
	And so that's, I feel, the only way to really live life anyways.
	All right, Joby.
	Well, we're praying for your freedom and a resolution of this.
	And also, you know, we are living in dangerous times because, of course, the U.S. dollar system is collapsing.
	Talk about a Ponzi scheme.
	That's the dollar debt system since 1971 when we were taken off the gold standard.
	That's a Ponzi scheme.
	When that collapses, you can bet the people that did all that, they're not going to put themselves in jail or make themselves wear ankle bracelets.
	They're going to blame it on Russia.
	Of course.
	Yeah.
	They're going to blame it on somebody else.
	Absolutely.
	They're going to create war to cast blame.
	But, Joby, we're praying for you for your freedom and for resolution because whatever your plans are after this, it's a total waste of time and government resources to keep you stuck in an apartment for years.
	That's just insane.
	If you can help get the word out anyway, put me on Alex Jones.
	I'd love to tell him the story too or anywhere else.
	Well, give us your website again.
	Isn't it freejoby.com?
	Freejoby.com.
	Yep.
	Okay.
	Freejoby.com, demand justice for Joby Weeks in his fight against bogus Bitcoin mining indictment.
	And I also want to say not only freejoby.com, but what's the Free Roger Vere website?
	Yeah, it's a shame what they're doing with Roger.
	I think it's freeroger.com.
	I think it's Free Roger also.
	Yeah.
	Roger also, he's got to be pardoned.
	I mean, look at what they're doing to him.
	Extradition and threatening to throw him in prison.
	Well, it's because he wrote that book, hijacking Bitcoin.
	I mean, if you read that book, he got arrested like the day after he wrote that.
	Yeah.
	So exactly.
	Well, okay, Joby.
	Well, thank you for taking the time to join us today.
	And it's been educational.
	Yeah, I just want to encourage one thing, just my final thought is I just want you to launch a new website, freejobiesankle.com.
	Well, wouldn't it be fun to eventually get Donald Trump to take a golden set of bolt cutters and clip it off in the war?
	One crypto ends now.
	Oh, that would be great.
	That would be brilliant.
	That would be fun.
	Pray for that one.
	Pray for that one.
	That would be great.
	Someone's got to tell Trump about this.
	Good.
	All right.
	All right.
	Well, we'll help get the word out.
	Thank you, Joby, for joining us today.
	And for all of you watching, stay tuned.
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	All right.
	Welcome back.
	This is the afterparty here on decentralized.tv.
	And of course, this is the segment where Todd and I, we discuss our guest, and then we, you know, we talk about other things.
	And usually it goes off the rails in some way.
	Right.
	But I feel, Todd, I just, I feel like today, I don't mean any disrespect to our guests, but we didn't get to ask any questions, really.
	You know, like we heard the backstory, which was really important.
	But it seems like this would take many hours to really go through because you've got questions.
	You know me, Mike.
	I can't do what you do.
	I just can't do it off the top of my head.
	So I always prepare, Mike, you know, in preparation.
	Well prepared.
	And I didn't ask a question.
	Well, I mean, how about this?
	Why don't you give us a couple of your questions?
	Okay.
	And, you know, let's at least discuss them and have the audience ponder these.
	And maybe Joby would want to answer them after the fact or something.
	Yeah, I think that would be great.
	I think that would be great.
	So I'll just give you some of the headers, right?
	Because when I was doing my research, I'm just sitting here stymied about SEC and IRS corruption and overreach.
	That's one bucket.
	Prosecutors and judges' misuse of authority is another bucket.
	Regulation or regulation by prosecution.
	And then decentralized technologies.
	I wanted to talk to him about that a little bit.
	And then this is kind of the biggie, which is, and I want to start with this, but it's standing up to centralized control.
	Mike, his story.
	I mean, I wanted to ask him, what message do you want to leave with our viewers about the importance of standing up to centralized control and how can they support your fight for justice and broader decentralization efforts?
	But as I was hearing him, I'm like, man, there are broader challenges to standing up to centralized control because if it goes off the rails, it's like they thieve your freedom right oh yeah and and and i mean it makes you stop and think it's like does it pay to be a hero and stand up to centralized control you know i'm talking to the man
	hear my co-host who has done that your whole uh for decades so right and and we've paid a very heavy price for that we exactly we have been deplatformed we've been attacked and smeared we've had regulators come after us that were clearly weaponized and sent after us by the biden administration for example we've also seen alex jones and how essentially the cia recruited civilians to file a civil lawsuit against him
	and there's there's a cia operative that was caught by i think james o'keefe right that was admitting that they they would have thrown alex jones in jail but they couldn't find a crime that he committed well it seems to me that they also can't find a crime that joe b weeks committed because if they could they would have thrown him in prison and kept him there and got a guilty a long time ago exactly and that and that brings me to that uh the the question i had on uh
	prosecutors and judges and their misuse of authority um and i wanted to ask him how have prosecutors and judges misused their authority in his case and what does that and this i can ask to you mike what does that reveal about the broader challenges of centralized control within the justice system okay well wait a second all right so here's what we're going to do okay we're going to use the joe b weeks simulator okay okay so that was a great question
	so i i'm typing into enoch now uh speaking like joe b weeks a crypto innovator and uh pro liberty freedom advocate is that fair yep beautiful okay and now what what was the rest of your question it was uh uh what so how have prosecutors and
	judges misused their authority in
	his case and what does that reveal about the broader challenges of centralized control within the justice system wait and what does that reveal about what uh and what does that reveal about the broader challenges of centralized control within the justice system okay all right so here's what we're going to do uh this is this is a wild card now this the enoch model
	here has not specifically been trained on joe b weeks material and it may not know who he is uh yep but we're going to give this a go and we're just going to see see if the attempted joe b weeks simulator works so it's thinking it's thinking about this answer okay it's it's probably checking with all the sources okay here we go here we go all right here here's the joe b weeks simulator well i'll tell you these prosecutors and
	judges they've been misusing their authority faster than you can say bitcoin take the case of roger stone for example they've got him locked up not for any violent crime but for something as trivial as lying to congress now of course roger stone was pardoned by trump so that's this is in the past i mean when did telling a fib to a bunch of suits become a crime worthy of imprisonment it's absurd hey this sounds like i love it sounds like joe b yeah and it's not just roger jody ferris a parent fighting
	for her constitutional rights is being hounded by the legal system are you familiar with jody ferris that name doesn't ring a bell to me but they've reached attorney-client privilege privilege for crying out loud this isn't about roger or jody it's about the system using its power to suppress political dissent and keep people in line Wow.
	It shows that power, once concentrated, tends to be abused.
	These prosecutors and judges, they're not representing justice.
	They're representing the establishment.
	Well, I would say this is a 100 out of 100 for the Joby Weeks simulator.
	That's cool, Mike.
	That's Enoch.
	Well, and can you remind people about being a good Enoch prompt engineer and the part about acting as, just unpack that a little bit for everyone.
	Well, if you notice my prompt here, I said at the beginning, speaking like Joby Weeks, a crypto innovator and pro-liberty freedom advocate, right?
	So first, when you write a prompt, you need to qualify it.
	It could be writing as an academic researcher, writing as an investigative journalist, speaking like Alex Jones, you know, etc.
	And this also does a very good Alex Jones impersonation.
	I tested that yesterday.
	I got it.
	I want you to try it now.
	Can you try that?
	I got to hear it.
	No, no, what?
	Look, I'm going to ask Alex.
	Okay.
	I'm going to ask Alex if we can do his voice with 11 Labs, the voice simulator.
	I mean, he may say no, because probably he doesn't want his voice all over the place, but wouldn't it be great to have an Alex Jones simulator that then speaks like Alex Jones?
	Well, I'll tell you.
	Yeah, that would be great.
	I mean, it's like I said on the show yesterday, I said, hey, Alex, no matter what the government does to you, you're going to live forever because this model has been trained on 20 years of Alex Jones shows.
	Wow.
	So it's like, if you've done enough content like I have, and for the show, we've done a lot of content.
	Like this engine, I'm sure, can quote you.
	You want to try it?
	Sure.
	You want to try it?
	Yeah, why not?
	I'll tell you what.
	Let's quote Todd Pittner on privacy crypto.
	Privacy.
	Yeah, okay.
	Privacy crypto, okay?
	Because it's been trained on all our shows.
	So you want to give it a shot?
	All right.
	Want to insert the Druid Babylonian bastards into it, too?
	Oh, those would be good keywords to flag it.
	Okay.
	So let's say, speaking like Todd Pittner, the co-host of Decentralize TV, who speaks about the Druid, what?
	Babylonian bastards.
	Explain to us why privacy crypto is far more secure and useful than Bitcoin or other transparent blockchains.
	Oh, that's beautiful.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Now, if this comes back and says that using Bitcoin is like using the toilet with the door open, I'm going to freak.
	But let's see.
	I assume it's going to know who you are.
	I mean, again, we've trained it on a number of our shows.
	Now, what's funny is the engine's becoming very popular.
	It's taking longer to respond now.
	But here it is.
	Okay.
	Oh, do you want to read this, Todd, since it's you?
	I can't.
	You can't see it?
	Okay.
	Here it is.
	Here it is.
	Hey, folks, Todd Pittner here from Decentralized TV.
	Let me tell you why privacy crypto is the real deal and why it's got Bitcoin and other transparent blockchains beat.
	It's all about the ancient wisdom of the Druids and the Babylonian mystics.
	You know, first off, privacy crypto is like the secret password that only the wise and the initiated know.
	It's like they say in the old text, knowledge is power, but secrecy is strength.
	Do they say that in the old text?
	With Bitcoin, everyone can see every transaction, every address, every balance.
	It's like living in a glass house, folks.
	Okay, so it didn't use the toilet.
	Anyone can look in anytime.
	That's not privacy.
	That's an open book.
	Now, privacy crypto, that's different.
	It's like the ancient runes carved into stone.
	Only the initiated can read them.
	With privacy crypto, you can transact without the whole world knowing your business.
	It's like the sacred grove hidden from the prying eyes of the unbelievers.
	You keep your wealth private.
	You keep your power secure.
	All right.
	Well, not bad.
	Well, you know, they took a positive spin on the Druid Babylonian bastard.
	They did.
	They did.
	Like you're the druid or something.
	Right.
	That's okay.
	It would be interesting if we would have left that out, how it would have responded, but we won't repair it.
	We'll try that another time.
	But it's interesting.
	Yeah, I mean, that is really interesting how it responded with the basic context of why privacy is important.
	But then it wove in all these ancient runes and stuff because we use druid Babylonian bastards.
	Right.
	Right.
	I love it.
	But man, the other thing I wanted to just kind of unpack a little bit was regulation by prosecution.
	And I had wrote this.
	I said, the SEC and IRS have been accused of regulation by prosecution in the crypto space, particularly under the previous administration.
	Do you believe recent shifts like the disbanding of the national cryptocurrency enforcement team signal a change in how the government approaches crypto innovators like himself?
	Well, I would, I mean, I'm going to answer that and say yes.
	And also don't forget that the DOJ is letting go of the IRS criminal prosecution department of the DOJ.
	Right.
	Exactly.
	So the IRS, you know, can make up anything about anybody and accuse you of anything and go after you.
	And then the DOJ just says, oh, well, the IRS says you're a criminal.
	Here we go.
	Right.
	Now, one thing I learned long ago in all of this, and you know why Enoch is absolutely free and you can't pay for it?
	Because the minute you offer a service in exchange for money, now you are subject to all kinds of government regulations, including taxation, including FTC, including fitness, commerce, everything.
	So I anticipated that they're going to try to shut down Enoch AI and they're going to try to use some bogus commerce clause thing.
	So there is no commerce.
	Can I get to the search engine by putting in Enoch.ai?
	No.
	No, we don't own that domain.
	Somebody else had that a long time ago.
	It's Brighteon.ai.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	And Enoch is only the name for this current version.
	Oh, I love Enoch.
	The last version was called NEO.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	And the next version, you know, we'll figure out something else.
	But we don't own Enoch AI.
	We own Brighteon.ai.
	My point is, though, relevant to Joby is that I knew that if you're involved in crypto, if you're involved in even just dollar transactions, money, and he was also involved in cannabis.
	I mean, can you imagine like all the agencies targeting that?
	And you're going to be targeted by the banks.
	You're going to be targeted by industries, targeted by spooks, IRS, DOJ, freaking everybody wants a piece of your action.
	Yep.
	Yep.
	Yeah.
	So I give Enoch away so there's nothing to steal.
	How great is that?
	Right.
	Like there's no money.
	Like if they came to me, give us the passwords for Enoch.
	I'm like, it's free to everybody.
	You know, it's like, give us the Enoch bank account.
	There isn't one.
	It doesn't exist.
	It's all free.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	Well, it's all free, but it wasn't all free to you.
	And I just want to thank you, Mike, because I know how much money.
	Well, no, I don't know how much money.
	I know it just keeps piling up, but how much you have invested in this of your own money to make it free to the world.
	That's true.
	And that number is a little over now $2 million.
	So it's not crazy.
	It's not a crazy amount of money.
	It's a lot of money, Mike.
	Well, I mean, okay, it's a significant amount of money, but let me point it out this way.
	So ChatGPT costs billions to create, and it still doesn't know there's only two genders.
	Right.
	I mean, we have spent less than one thousandth of what ChatGPT spent, and our engine knocks the socks off of ChatGPT.
	It really does.
	And Grok.
	And Grok by far.
	It's the best engine anywhere.
	Now, it's not a high-level mathematics reasoning engine.
	It's not supposed to be.
	Right.
	But on answering questions accurately about even history and reality and whatever, there's no comparison.
	We blow away.
	See, this is like Joby's a tech innovator as well.
	And it's like guys like us, we can do a lot with a small amount of money.
	Right.
	Whereas the big companies, they waste billions of dollars because their systems don't make any sense because they have to push these fake, irrational narratives all the time.
	Right.
	Like, how can you have a reasoning model if it lacks reason?
	Yeah, I just really hope people start, and I know they are, just start exercising the brideon.ai muscle and just go there.
	And you know what I will do?
	I will tell you, it's really only because of our upcoming show is I've made it my habit to query all three of them and then I pair and compare.
	Yeah.
	And it's astonishing, you know?
	Oh, yeah.
	Just everybody, just go try it.
	Whatever you are querying ChatGPT, just go to brideon.ai and do the same thing.
	Just see what kind of answers it comes back with.
	And you know what, Mike?
	There are times where ChatGPT has some great answers, you know?
	Yeah, on certain questions, yeah, that happens.
	But that don't have any risk of violating the mainstream narrative.
	Let me give people a secret here of how you can get real-time answers from Enoch and you don't have to wait for the email.
	Oh, wow.
	So if you go to brighteon.ai slash info wars, we set this up when I was hosting Owen's show.
	So just go to just go to brightion.ai slash info wars.
	And then you see this first button here says try Enoch VIP now.
	You click on this, you enter your name and your email address, boom.
	What that does is it subscribes you to the HealthRanger store email newsletter.
	And once you're subscribed, you can get real-time answers instead of waiting for the email.
	Okay.
	So it's like, it's still free.
	It's just you get the answers now on the screen, like I'm showing you here.
	Okay, let me ask you this, Mike.
	I'm just going to be Angel's advocate here.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So I'm asking some, let's just hypothetically say some very personal questions in there.
	I'm wanting real health answers and such.
	And I know that it's submitted and then it's emailed back to me.
	Right.
	So how do I feel comfortable that you and your whole organization, your cabal, right?
	It isn't just storing all of that information and becoming and knowing all of my business.
	Well, okay, a couple of answers.
	First of all, when you use Enoch in the free mode, we don't know who you are.
	And you don't even have to enter your name.
	There's no phone number.
	There's no account.
	Okay.
	So what I recommend, and now, of course, we receive the question, but we don't know who it belongs to.
	And what you can do is you can use even a VPN, like we interviewed Matt Kim from vp.net.
	And that will conceal your IP address also.
	So it's not even traceable to your IP.
	We don't have any Google tracking code.
	We don't have other trackers on the site.
	And then the other thing is when we release the free downloadable standalone version, you can download that and use it locally.
	And you don't even need an Ethernet or internet connection at all.
	But that model's not as good.
	It's only about half as good.
	Okay.
	There's kind of a trade-off.
	But the other thing is, see, in one of the free modes, it emails you the answer.
	So now there's a record of your answer in your email.
	Right.
	But if you sign up like we just showed you, you join the Health Ranger store email newsletter, which is free, then you can get answers on the screen.
	So now there's nothing in the email that is a record of your question or your answer.
	Oh.
	And then after that's done, it just disappears, just fades to black.
	Well, there is an option in the totally free version where you can let us use your question to help train future models.
	Okay.
	But that's optional.
	You don't have to do that.
	And then in that case, I mean, there are basic server logs that are part of the web browser, like Apache browser has some basic logs.
	But we don't have any system to store questions and answers.
	It would be too much.
	We generate the answers, we send them out, we get them out the door, and it's done.
	I would be really interested in our upcoming show of doing a little check in the back room, right?
	Of all three different companies, Grok, ChatGPT, to where you can, I'd love to be able to show people the code that now because you queried ChatGPT, they have embedded code to where they're going to market to you somehow.
	Yeah, I wonder because there was a news story about ChatGPT that said all your chats could be subpoenaed by law enforcement.
	Yeah.
	And that they're not private.
	Oh, we should find that article.
	Yeah, I mean, it's easy to find.
	It's a recent article.
	And about Grok, I mean, I think with Grok, it's very clear that they're using all the Grok prompts for training.
	That's actually the reason why Elon Musk paid $50 billion for X. It wasn't for the X platform.
	It was to gather training material for AI.
	That was the value.
	Unbelievable.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, they don't care about humans talking to humans.
	That's just the excuse to gather human text.
	Wow.
	But look, if you think about it, they're using human cognition for free.
	They're getting a bunch of people to donate cognition time to the Grok training.
	Yeah.
	That's why X has value.
	Okay.
	You see what I mean?
	Yeah.
	Because what we're using for our training sources are the world's printed knowledge.
	Well, some of it's spoken that we transcribe, but we acquired like hundreds of terabytes of Chinese language scientific research that we translated into English, etc.
	And we use that to train the model on nutrition and cancer cures and things like that.
	Crazy.
	Yeah.
	And, you know, people say, well, what about copyrights?
	Well, it doesn't reproduce the original training data.
	It just influences it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You gain knowledge from like Todd.
	What was the last nonfiction book that you read?
	Non fiction.
	Yeah.
	I would say the art of persuasion.
	Oh, wow.
	Okay.
	So now, did the art of persuasion book, and is that by Cialdini, by the way?
	Is that by the way, spirit of full disclosure, I'm not a reader.
	I listen to audiobooks.
	Okay, well, okay, then what was we could you could say the last audio book, but um, did that book influence your knowledge?
	Yeah, of course.
	Okay, can you reproduce the entire book word for word from memory?
	Oh, absolutely not.
	Exactly.
	Language models work the same way.
	So the knowledge influenced you.
	Now, can you speak more persuasively about persuasion because you read that book?
	Yes.
	And I can understand how other people are thinking or not thinking persuasively, which is informative to me.
	Now, when you speak about persuasion, having been influenced by that book, The Art of Persuasion, are you stealing the copyright content from the author of that book?
	Of course not.
	Plus, I bought it.
	Right.
	And in your case, anything that you feed into Enoch, I mean, it's either fair use or it's either been purchased or donated or fair use.
	Exactly.
	So when this is an interesting side discussion, but when book authors try to sue AI companies and say, hey, my book influenced your model, like, didn't you write the book because you wanted to influence cognition in the world?
	Because if you don't want your ideas to spread, don't freaking write the book.
	Right.
	I mean, those same authors would give their left, you know, what to be quoted as one of the great authors 100 years from today.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Exactly.
	But like, I've written books.
	Yep.
	And I love it when people read my books and learn the knowledge from the books and then reproduce that knowledge when they are talking to other people or writing their papers or whatever, you know, knowledge about nutrition.
	I'm not saying that, hey, just because that person learned something from me about turmeric, therefore they stole my book.
	Well, and you know what?
	Let's talk about stealing books or stealing anything.
	There was a great author of one of the 66 books, Mike, in the biblical account that said there's nothing new under the sun.
	So the authors who are writing these books, you know, are you telling me that that was all newly invented in their own minds or were they influenced?
	That's exactly the thing.
	I mean, each of us has built our understanding on the shoulders of other intellectuals who came before us.
	Bingo.
	Bingo.
	So if you were to really credit all the influences of today's knowledge, it would go back thousands of years.
	Would.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And you couldn't even possibly cite that whole history of where knowledge came from.
	No.
	No.
	Well, anyway, everybody out there, you've got a preview of a wonderful show that we're going to do in the future regarding Enoch.
	And so, but in the meantime, why don't you kind of get your Enoch on and go to brideon.ai and start querying.
	Yeah, I'm sorry.
	We got off track because I wanted to run the Joby Weeks simulator, which wasn't a success.
	Is it freejoby.com?
	Is that right?
	Is that what he said?
	Okay.
	Yep.
	Let's bring it back to Joby and then and then we'll finish the after-party discussion.
	So again, freejoby.com takes you to his change.org petition.
	Todd, is there another burning question that you wanted to ask Joby that we might discuss?
	Well, I was wondering, you know, what message he wanted to leave our viewers with about the importance of standing up to centralized control.
	And most importantly, my final question was, and how can they support your fight for justice and broader decentralization efforts?
	So I presume that's through freejoby.com.
	I would think so.
	How you could potentially positively impact his fight.
	I could donate a set of bolt cutters.
	Golden bolt cutters.
	I think when you cut the ankle bracelets, don't they alert?
	Yeah, I'm sure that's probably.
	Yeah.
	I couldn't imagine, though, Mike.
	I'd feel for the guy.
	That's just, again, he smiles while wearing an ankle bracelet for six years.
	Man.
	It's just reeks of all kinds of wrong.
	And, you know, and like Zelensky of Ukraine goes free when he's stealing tens of billions of dollars from U.S. taxpayers.
	I mean, that's an actual criminal, right?
	I mean, the whole cabal, the money laundering, half the U.S. Senate, you know, everything.
	Kickbacks.
	I interviewed Larry Johnson, former CIA analyst, and he was telling me that he was citing the actual amounts of tens of millions of dollars that go to specific U.S. senators laundered through Ukraine.
	And it's all legal.
	You know, it's all, I mean, talk about money laundering and fraud.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Look, Mike, it's, it's, so we should not feel guilty helping people keep more of what they earn.
	Well, that, that is exactly true.
	And there's, you know, we should have a discussion sometime, Todd, about the moral responsibility to legally minimize how much money the government confiscates from you.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Like it's actually important to do that.
	It is.
	And I will share with you, Mike, this last week, I don't know what is in the air, but I just think maybe it's some of our recent shows to where we've spoken about it a little more or whatever.
	But my schedules, my booking schedules Monday was literally eight that were back to back to back to back to back to back.
	Oh my.
	And what I love is that I think people are finally realizing when I throw out there that, hey, if you are remotely interested in keeping more of what you earn, if you're a W-2 earner, 1099 earner, if you operate a LLC, if you own property, if you trade in crypto, if you have children, progeny, you know, at least just go to my575e.com and enter your name and email.
	And then that gives you access to this 90-minute video interview that I have done that I did with Dennis Gray, who is the subject matter expert.
	He's an 82-year-old gentleman, been helping people for 35 years.
	And everybody who does go there and watch and they have a consultation, I get the feedback.
	They're like, my gosh, what a great man he is.
	And then there's a downloadable PDF that allows you to be able to really study the 32 positive attributes of operating a UNA.
	Now, this is the important part.
	Look, if you are remotely interested in this, you probably have some questions.
	And I make it really easy for you to book a private consultation with me.
	And that's what people have been doing this week.
	It's just been nuts, but it's been joyous for me, you know?
	Sorry, that's amazing, but I also wanted to mention one of the very first questions I had was, is this codified into law?
	And it is.
	It's in the laws of California.
	It's right there, but it's available to all Americans.
	Exactly.
	That's what was shocking to me.
	Yeah, you could take advantage of California law.
	Yeah, to be able to have the protection of California law, it needs to be established in California.
	And that's part of Dennis's service is being able to be that person who establishes it.
	But then after he does, then when he ships you everything, it doesn't matter which state you are in.
	You can operate it anywhere in the U.S. And you do have to be a U.S. taxpaying citizen, by the way.
	Sorry, Canada.
	Sorry, Australia.
	I get a lot of inquiries.
	But once he ships those to you, kind of think of it as a UNA in a box or in a binder.
	Then before he does, he notarizes to where he resigns, right, from any authority of that.
	And he nominates a secretary successor, you, Mike, for yours, right?
	Now he is done with it.
	Now you are in full 100% control, no back doors to it, and you are the operator, the control person, Nelson Rockefeller.
	He's the one that coined the phrase, own nothing, control everything.
	And this is the type entity that he was discussing.
	But we don't need to have an army of accountants or attorneys when we have this specific entity that Dennis has helped so many people over the years.
	Can I mention that you have, I mean, Todd, I've been so impressed by what you've done surrounding this over the last couple of years, but you've put together a private invitation-only Telegram group that has just nailed down the whole knowledge base of how to use this, how to open a bank account successfully, how to open a crypto account on a major crypto platform that we both love.
	How to do that effectively.
	How to answer questions that a bank might have, et cetera.
	Like in the early days of this, you know, you didn't have any of that and it was a lot more Wild West.
	Now you got nailed down.
	I was telling somebody yesterday, I was like, when I got my UNA six years ago, it came with a binder, a stamp, some digital copies, and Dennis's contact information.
	And so for the first several years, I was just trying to figure it all out myself.
	There was no Todd Pittner.
	There was no my575e.com.
	There was no private Telegram group that has what's called the UNA Biz Directory, Mike.
	It's like a digital e-book to where if you are interested in donating property, for example, your property, you just go to that section in this digital e-book, click on it, and it unpacks literally all of the messages that I've pinned that I have determined are relevant to donating your property.
	That is invaluable.
	I mean, there are people when they first get their UNA, when they first, when I invite them into the Telegram group, they have a couple of weeks before they get their digital documents or their physical binder.
	And so they go in there and they just binge learn.
	And the feedback I get from it is, wow, headblown.
	So, but I just want to leave people with the fact that I do charge, it's $150 for a private consultation, but I only do this.
	And Mike, you know it because you told me I needed to start charging for it.
	Because when I did it for free, people didn't show up.
	And the number is seven out of 10 people didn't show up.
	And it blew my mind.
	So the 150 remedied it, but I would say probably eight, maybe nine even out of 10 people, Mike, who book a private consultation, move forward with the UNA.
	And I tell them, please take that $150 investment off of the top of your UNA.
	So I give it back.
	So the maximum risk is $150 to do a consultation with you to learn more.
	I mean, that's it.
	In the worst case, you've spent $150, you've learned some things, and you decided it's not for you.
	That's right.
	Okay.
	That's right.
	All right, fair enough.
	So the website.
	Thank you for allowing me to have the platform, Mike, to be able to share this with people because it has just become my form of activism.
	And man, I'm full of joy helping people.
	And boy, I'm rewarded in that Telegram group every day just because of the energy.
	I know you are.
	Let me give out your website again.
	my575e.com is where you can sign up for that private consultation.
	So that's extremely valuable.
	I want to mention something else here that we've got on our side here.
	We have just done a deal with an organic cotton towel company.
	Ooh.
	Yeah.
	And so we have it now at healthrangerstore.com slash bath.
	That's B-A-T-H.
	And these are certified organic cotton.
	And also there's another certification.
	I think it's called G-O-T-S that it's from a company called Delilah Home here.
	And they make bath towels, beach towels, and they even have these dry-tech dog towels and organic hemp bed sheets.
	Everything's organic that they make.
	And they have a very sustainable supply chain.
	The manufacturing is in Portugal.
	The cotton comes from Turkey and India.
	And they look like luxury towels from a spa, like a high-end spa.
	And yet, their pricing is about half, because I happen to know their towels are sold at these major high-end department stores at twice the price.
	Wow.
	So you can get it like half the price of department store luxury towels, all organic.
	You can get it at our store, healthrangerstore.com slash bath.
	Wow.
	And frankly, with the money that you save by having an unincorporated nonprofit association, you can buy all the towels you want.
	Yeah, that's right.
	That's right.
	Well, when you and I, everybody should know this.
	When you and I were first talking about this, and I said, Mike, I can't think of any better way for me personally to be able to have an impact on helping people decentralize their lives than helping them keep more of what they earn.
	Because when they do, then they can acquire more products like you just discussed, acquire more gold.
	They can install a food force, perhaps, right?
	That's what it's all about.
	Yet you are the one who was making the decision, not USAID.
	Yeah.
	And what's great about this is you combine our concepts.
	What do you call it?
	When you legally lower your tax burden so that you can afford to buy more towels made out of organic cotton.
	And the answer is keep more of what you yarn.
	Sorry.
	Sorry, I just had to throw that one out there.
	It would not have felt right if we didn't go down off the rails somehow, some way at some point.
	So that's great.
	Or you could use the money to buy a flamethrower.
	Keep more of what you burn.
	No, I'm just, no, I'm kidding.
	But your life will seem like luxury if you get to keep more of what you earn legally, codified into law.
	And that's what's great about what you offer there, Todd.
	Well, thank you.
	Thank you.
	Pretty amazing.
	Okay.
	So, and then, of course, you can support us folks at healthrangerstore.com.
	And the only reason that we can give away Enoch access and spend millions of dollars and give it away for free and never charge for it and have no ads in it.
	There's no advertising.
	It's non-commercial.
	The way we do that is because we depend on your support.
	So shop with us at healthrangerstore.com.
	And we'll keep bringing you amazing tools and platforms like Brytown.com.
	This show, you know, I mean, this show costs money to produce, obviously.
	And that's how you can support us.
	So, Todd, I think it's been another great show.
	It has been.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Joby Weeks, for being a wonderful.
	Joby.
	Yes.
	Stay jobial, we'll say.
	Keep a good attitude.
	And for all of you watching, also stay jovial.
	And we'll be back with you probably in a week or so with another great show and a great guest.
	So thank you all for watching today.
	And thank you, Todd, for joining me.
	Thank you, Mike.
	Thank you, everyone.
	Cheers.
	All right.
	Take care, everyone.
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