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All right folks, the FDA says that shrimp that's being imported into the United States and sold at some Walmart stores is contaminated with radioactive cesium-137.
Yeah, right.
So welcome.
This is Brightown Broadcast News and it is Wednesday, August 20th, 2025.
I'm Mike Adams of Natural News.com and of Brightown.com.
And today, beginning at, I believe, 3 p.m. Central Time, I'm going to be the replacement host for Owen Schroyer for his show called War Room at infowars.com.
And I'll be hosting that show for three hours.
So if you get a chance, tune in, and I think you'll really enjoy the show because there I'm going to be demonstrating Enoch, our AI engine, and I've got a couple of really great guests as well.
All right, folks, the FDA says that shrimp that's being imported into the United States and sold at some Walmart stores is contaminated with radioactive cesium-137.
Yeah, right.
So if you go to FDA.gov and you look at their advisories, alerts, and safety information section, this one just came out, let's see, August 19th, yeah.
FDA advises public not to eat, sell, or serve certain imported frozen shrimp from an Indonesian firm.
So it says that this shrimp from this particular company is in violation of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act.
And what they're saying is that at least one shipment of frozen shrimp from this company was somehow detected.
The radiation was detected, or the presence of cesium-137, which is a radioisotope with about a 29 year half-life, by the way.
It was detected by Customs and Border Protection, and that The FDA has jumped on this and let's see it says that the product appears to have been prepared or packed under insanitary conditions where it may have become contaminated with Cesium-137 and may pose a safety concern.
And then the FDA goes on to say that this company's products are generally sold at Walmart stores in a bunch of states like Arkansas, Georgia, Missouri, Pennsylvania, Texas, West Virginia, et cetera, and some others.
And the brand is called Great Value.
Great Value brand frozen shrimp.
And there are certain lot numbers.
Yeah, I'm sure it's a great value.
I bet it's a discount shrimp.
It's a, ah, what's a little fallout, you know?
Line from Mad Max.
So the FDA says that they haven't actually detected Cesium-137 yet in any of the products on the shelves at Walmart, but they didn't say that they've even tested those.
They say that they found some, or Customs and Border Protection found the Cesium-137, and that this company's products are distributed across Walmart across all these different states now the level of cesium-137 that was found in these shrimp is not like deadly you're not going to eat shrimp and die it's not like taking a vaccine where you just die suddenly it's more like a low level
exposure that adds to the cumulative ionizing radiation which can destroy the genetic integrity of your body's cells.
And since cesium ins 137 atoms, They can end up in cell membranes and organs and so on.
And they can continue to emit radiation for the rest of your life.
So in other words, you're sort of eating and absorbing an internal radiation source.
And it's like walking around with internal chest x-rays beaming from inside your body.
But it's not illuminating.
It's highly destructive.
You know, you're not going to turn into Jesus with the light within.
No, you're going to, like your cells are going to fall apart if you have enough cesium-137 exposure.
Now, these shrimp products., it's not like taking a walk through Chernobyl or anything.
They're not that high, but it's the concern about the chronic exposure of low levels of ionizing radiation.
Now, if only, if only there were a solution of how to eliminate cesium-137 from the digestive tract.
You know, that would be great.
And sure enough, if you look up in the U.S. Patent Office, you're going to find a patent for an invention called the cesium eliminator.
describes a patented process by which you can remove cesium-137 radioisotopes from your body by consuming some certain simple supplements.
And if you look at that patent, you'll notice that the inventor of that process is, well, it's me.
I'm the one who did the research and that patent was awarded to me like over a decade ago along with another patent about how to remove heavy metals from the body.
And so I wanted to pass along a little bit of that information since...
And so let me just help answer that question right here, or you could read the patent.
A couple of things you need to know.
Anytime you eat seafood, you are in fact consuming toxic heavy metals at some level.
Because there's some amount of lead, there's some amount of mercury, and now apparently there's cesium in some seafood.
And again, it's a low level, but if you consume seafood on a regular basis, these toxic substances can add up.
They can accumulate.
It's called the bioaccumulation.
And they accumulate in your body, and then they can interfere with enzyme reactions and a lot more.
Or in the case of cesium 137, it can directly cause double-strand breaks of your chromosomes, which is ripping apart the integrity of the genetic code of your cells.
And if you don't have genetic code that is working in your body's cells, cells start to fall apart, and that's not good.
You don't want to end up like a flesh blob on the floor because all your DNA fell apart, right?
So that's not good.
So let me pass along this bit of information here.
Number one, I want you to buy some strawberries and take a look at the outside of the strawberry and look closely.
Get a magnifying glass, if you would.
Look closely at the strawberry and you will discover that the strawberry has all kinds like hundreds of little tiny seeds on the outside of the fruit.
Now, I can't think of any other fruit that has its seeds on the outside.
Almost all fruits have seeds on the inside.
I mean, maybe they're, but like even blackberries, you could say the seeds are kind of located on the outer perimeter, but they're still inside.
On strawberries, the seeds are totally on the outside of the fruit.
Well, What's interesting about that, and the seeds are very, very tiny, is that every one of those seeds is connected to the center of the fruit with a transparent fibrous strand and it is through this strand it's kind of like a little fruit umbilical cord and there's one for each seed so if you were to take apart the strawberry you're taking away all the the berry flesh and just leave the seeds and
strands, you would find that it's like a giant array of these transparent fibers that connect to all the seeds.
It would look like, I don't know, like an exploded...
Well these fibrous transparent strands, which I'll just call strawberry strands, these These are impervious to stomach acid.
They cannot be dissolved in stomach acid, and they cannot even be dissolved in nitric acid.
And if you're wondering how I know that, it's because I've had these things clog up the nebulizers on my mass spec instruments, the ICPMS, elemental analysis, because they were not dissolved by the nitric acid that dissolves almost everything else that you can imagine.
but not strawberry strands.
So it turns out that when you eat strawberries, these strands function as little, like, biological mops or like a fruit broom and they will broom out or sweep out your digestive tract with these gentle strawberry fibers and these fibers also happen to cling to lead and cesium ions and cadmium oh and mercury big time mercury so one of the best ways
to mop up toxic elements in your digestive tract is to eat fresh strawberries with the meal or before the meal.
And again, I wouldn't know this unless I did the research for the patent because I was trying to figure out what's the best way to remove heavy metals, what's the best way to remove cesium, etc.
And we found the answers.
And again, strawberries are one of the best.
But it turns out that all fruit fibers are quite good at this, but strawberry fibers are the most effective, especially again with mercury.
So if you happen to eat mercury, which you'll get from eating tuna fish, or you'll get that from eating, you know, probably salmon or any any seafood you're going to get some level of mercury you should always eat fresh fruit with the seafood or any fish frankly even freshwater or farmed fish especially like farmed salmon you should eat fresh fruit and the best kind of fruit are the fibrous fruits so
So not so much apples and pears or figs or things like that, but rather oranges, grapefruit, lemons, and strawberries.
Fruit that has stringy fibers all in it.
Mango would even qualify for that, but not papaya.
You see what I'm saying?
So eat lots of raw fruit anytime you're consuming seafood.
And it's also a great idea to eat lots of raw fruit.
Again, it has to be raw.
Like just orange juice doesn't count.
but it's also good to eat raw fruit before you do something like barbecue or you know anything that's got like burned fat in it like barbecue does or even a hamburger like a grilled hamburger it's good to have some fresh fruit with that because the fresh fruit is going to again it's going to sweep out or broom out your digestive tract And then when you eliminate, it's going to carry those toxins out automatically.
And fruit does this far better than vegetables, it turns out.
Far better.
Even better than celery.
I tried it.
I tested celery.
You would think celery is really stringy and it would do a better job.
But no, it turns out the celery, those strands are more easily digested than strawberry strands.
Yeah, you wouldn't know that unless you tried it.
So that's why I tried it.
A couple other things to keep in mind are you can also purchase grapefruit fiber pills, you know, supplements.
And in a pinch, that's a decent, you know, like if you don't have fresh fruit, but you can bring a couple of grapefruit fiber pills to your dinner, that's better than nothing.
So you take the pills, you drink a lot of water because they're going to expand obviously and you get that fiber activated before you start eating your meal and then you're going to be in good shape so you want plant fiber before you eat almost well frankly almost anything from the animal world today anything chicken beef you know fish whatever but especially with fish which would include shrimps you know shrimp whatever um yeah
so That's good to know.
There's one other piece of information on this that's really worth pointing out.
And this is also part of my patent if you want to read it.
You can even go to the website cesiumeliminator.com and you can find more research about all of this.
You can see that on average this formula removes 95.44% of cesium ions.
And again, this is research from quite a few years ago.
But an important thing to understand about this is that if you have a high level of cesium exposure, cesium-137,
However, this supplement, which I'm going to mention here, and it's not something that we sell, this supplement is something that I've been very cautious about because the supplement itself contains a very high level of aluminum.
In fact, aluminosilicates.
So it's a natural mineral form of aluminum.
with a form of silicon in the form of silica with aluminum so aluminosilicates.
This product is called Zeolites and Zeolites are sold by many companies as a detox supplement and it is true that Zeolites very effectively bind with cesium-137.
However, my personal opinion in this is that Zeolites because they contain so much aluminum, they should only be used in acute emergency situations.
Whereas I've seen people market Zeolite products as a daily supplement and I completely disagree with that advice, completely, because it's a daily supplement of aluminum.
And when the aluminosilicates hit your stomach acid, then some amount of the aluminum is ionized.
That is, it's freed up from the aluminosilicates, and then you have free circulating aluminum in your digestive tract, which goes into your blood, and now you have high aluminum in your blood.
So unless you are detoxing an acute exposure, like, hey, I've eaten highly radioactive green goblin shrimp or something, unless you have that kind of situation.
I do not recommend taking zeolites on a daily basis, although some people do.
Other people do, not me.
I'm just very cautious about zeolites, even though I also recognize they do have a legitimate place in emergency medicine.
So, in my opinion, it's good to stockpile zeolites for your emergency medicine kit, and given that they are basically a certain type of rocks, certain type of minerals, they will last a thousand years.
Okay, so there's really, technically, there's no expiration date on zeolites.
So get a supply, put it in your.
emergency supply kit and then if there's a nuclear war and there's a bunch of fallout and you end up eating like you know fallout fish fry or something that's when you would take the zeolites to eliminate the cesium 137 and not die from having your cells you know melt down internally okay does that make sense now for the record i could have been selling this formula called cesium eliminator.
I could have been selling this for the last decade, but I decided not to sell it because I did not think it was responsible to sell it in a non-emergency crisis situation so that's why you can't buy this product from us you can't buy any zeolites from us again other people choose to sell zeolites and some push it for daily consumption I completely disagree with that and that's why I'm sharing it with you
but you should read about this if you want to a cesium eliminator and you'll notice that our cesium eliminator formula contains not only zeolites but also a seawater extract and a concentrate, dehydrated seaweed, which is also very effective at this, and then Hawaiian spirulina and chlorella that also help with mopping up excess cesium 137 as well as heavy metals.
So that's what the formula actually is.
And again, for just mild cases, just eat fresh fruit.
Eat fresh fruit.
Okay.
Next question on all of this is, why is shrimp in Indonesia contaminated with radioactive cesium?
You know, this...
Like, what?
Okay, so where is shrimp being grown in toxic nuclear waste.
That's my question.
How do you even run into cesium-137?
Cesium-137, again, highly toxic, 29 year half-life.
Exposure is very, very dangerous.
It's a blue powder, typically.
I believe, I mean, I've never actually seen it face-to-face, but I've seen photos of it.
It's a blue powder.
Just a tiny amount of that powder can kill you over time.
And Cesium-137 is a byproduct, of course, of, well, a number of things.
like a nuclear meltdown or nuclear detonation, not a dirty bomb, but an actual nuclear fusion or fission event, which results in a byproduct of Cesium-137, which of course is an unstable isotope and that's why it has a half-life.
Well, the half-life of 29 years means that Cesium-137 will contaminate farmlands for almost three centuries or about 10 half-lives, which is 290 years or so.
So that's why the milk, which the reason you don't want to buy Chernobyl milk is because cows feed on grass that, and the grass has been, you know, contaminated with fallout from the Chernobyl accident in 1986, I believe that was.
And then the cows bioaccumulate the cesium-137 in their milk.
And so if you eat animal products derived from animals that graze on those fields, such as milk or butter or cheese, etc., then you're getting like cesium cheese, you know, cesium butter.
Hey, with a blue tint, you know, cesium milk.
It's even more delicious than chocolate milk.
You know, you look glowing, honey, after drinking the cesium milk, you know.
So it's actually not that dangerous to eat, believe it or not, to eat, let's say, corn grown around Chernobyl because corn doesn't bioaccumulate the cesium nearly as much as cows in their milk.
So it's just something to keep in mind.
I'm not saying that you should go start cornfields in Chernobyl, which would be difficult right now since there's a war in Ukraine.
Anyway, it's like, hey, how would you like compounded risk?
Eat some radioactive corn and dodge missiles from Russia.
That's not a good idea.
But the reason the land is destroyed for three centuries is because of the half-life of cesium-137.
But cesium-137 only comes from nuclear fusion or fission events.
So here's the question.
It should be kind of an obvious question.
How did the Bahari Makmoor Sajati seafood company in Indonesia, How did it get shrimp contaminated with cesium-137?
Okay?
There's a question for you.
And As of the moment, we don't have an answer to that.
It's a mystery.
Is there Cesium-137 just hanging out near Indonesia, or is it in the ocean there?
Have there been underwater nuclear experiments from some military, or more likely, the dumping of some forms of nuclear waste into the ocean, which ends up in the shrimp?
Because you know that the U.S. Navy treats the world's oceans like a giant sewer and just dumps everything.
And so does China, and so does the Philippinesines, and so does, frankly, every nation on the planet, or every nation that has access to an ocean.
They use the ocean as their toilet.
They just dump all kinds of radioactive waste and microplastics and everything else you can imagine.
So I'm just guessing that the fishermen who harvested this shrimp just happened upon an area of the ocean where there was a lot of season 137 contamination, probably dumped there by some nation's filthy navy.
It could be us.
It could be America.
That's my a warning for the fact that since the oceans are such a dumping ground of toxins that seafood is very heavily contaminated with lots of different substances.
Now, it does make you wonder about the safety of the food supply, doesn't it?
And for all the acts of terrorism that the FDA carries out upon the population and terrorizing small businesses, etc., This scanning of imports for radiation, this would be like one legitimate thing that the FDA actually does.
Like if the FDA should be doing anything, it would be scanning imported food for toxins.
Like, okay, I get that.
That's a legit function.
Unfortunately, the FDA spends most of its time terrorizing Americans and small businesses and herbal supplement distributors and homeopathy companies, etc., which pose no danger at all.
The FDA should be scanning shrimp for...
But anyway, they did their job in this case.
But the FDA bans any use of another substance that actually eliminates cesium-137 from the body even after it has been swallowed.
Now I already mentioned my invention, cesium eliminator, which relies on zeolites and some seaweed, certain forms of seaweed, certain forms of ocean water concentrates, which are really high in magnesium, by the way.
But there's another substance that has been banned by the FDA for this particular use, even though it is highly, highly effective.
And that substance is called Prussian blue, which is a painter's pigment.
It's a blue dye or a blue pigment that's used in oil paintings.
And I have some of this because I actually purchased it.
Where did I put that?
It's around here somewhere.
I purchased it for my research, you know, on the cesium eliminator patent research.
And I confirmed that Prussian blue does a great job of binding with cesium.
great job.
And the FDA has approved a big pharma form of Prussian blue called radio Gardase.
And it binds to cesium-137 in the intestines, which is what my invention also does.
And it was used after there was a nuclear accident in Brazil.
It helped decrease cesium-137 exposure in survivors by approximately 70%.
But then the FDA doesn't allow anyone to
You have to buy Radio Gardes, which is probably a thousand times more expensive than Prussian blue but as I have come to discover I just bought Prussian blue on Amazon and I used it in my research and it worked great so you know they want you to buy the you know thousand times more expensive pharmaceutical form but it's the same molecule folks it's the same molecule so Prussian blue which is also available at
paint stores by the way Prussian blue eliminates cesium-137 from the digestive tract.
So add that to your preppers kit, you know, like, hey, I should get some blue things and there are three blue things that you should consider.
Number one is Prussian blue which as we know removes cesium-137.
The second one is methylene blue which if you've heard me talk about this methylene blue blocks glutamate receptors and protects your brain from monosodium glutamate or other forms of excitotoxins and this is something that I'm very happy to discover because I have high sensitivity to MSG.
So I take methylene blue before, only before I'm having a meal where there might be soy sauce.
or maybe MSG or something like that.
And it works great.
Protects my brain from the MSG.
I don't take methylene blue as a daily supplement, by the way.
And some people have concerns over methylene blue.
So I only use it for one specific thing, which is protection against MSG.
Okay.
So anyway, methylene blue is the second blue item that you may want to consider.
And then the third blue item is called hematoxylene.
H-E-M-A-T-O-X-Y-L-I-N.
Hematoxylene.
This is a very potent blue pigment that's used as a.
cell staining dye in biochemistry and any kind of just slide staining for microscopy.
And it turns out that if you combine this blue dye with DMSO, and yes, I did a whole special report on this, it makes kind of like an orange-colored, semi-translucent orange-colored kind of gel.
And if you put this gel on your body, then the DMSO drives all kinds of substances into your skin and even deeper than your skin, and it delivers the hematoxylene blue dye to the subcutaneous regions where you applied it.
And that blue dye kills cancer cells.
Yeah, it kills cancer cells.
It cuts them off from blood supply.
Basically, it causes an anti-angiogenesis or an apoptosis effect on those cancer cells.
There's a substack author called A Midwestern Doctor that has done, I think, the best reporting on this.
I quoted him when I covered this.
this and this blue die Hemato's Island has been shown with DMSO to cure cervical cancer and to cure and reverse other types of cancers especially types that are closer to the surface of the skin and then I personally had experience with a pet owner who used this die in an orally administered intervention of a dog that was on death's door because of internal tumors.
And that dog, that dog, the tumors began to recede immediately with a very small amount of this blue dye and DMSO administered orally, just like a small amount, like how small was it?
I think it was only 100 microliters per day.
So, you know, one-tenth of a milliliter, which is just a few drops, you know.
And the tumors just began to shrink, and that dog came back to life.
That dog was scheduled for euthanasia.
And that dog came back to life and it was fully energetic and running around and everything.
So I've seen that firsthand.
That's wild.
So those are three blue items that...
there's something else you need to know about all of this is that methylene blue is also a photoactivated pigment.
And remember how I've talked about photoactivated nutrition recently.
And there are many of these substances that have intense colors like phycocyanins, which are derived from blue-green algae, such as spirulina, that themselves are also photoactivated, which means that even after you consume them, if you then expose yourself to sunlight and you're getting all these variety of sunlight rays, like near-infrared, far-infrared, and UV rays, etc., at some level, it's actually very healthy for you in moderation.
it further activates these molecules, these nutritive molecules.
And it does a couple of things.
In some cases, it makes the molecules more stable, not less stable, but more stable.
It makes them more absorbable or bioavailable in some cases.
And it also increases their efficacy in terms of the physiological reactions that they are able to perform in the body.
For example, antioxidants can become more potent antioxidants upon exposure to sunlight.
This is called photoactivated or photodynamic therapy.
And there's a lot of research on this.
And frankly, I wouldn't even know that much about it except for the fact that my AI engine knows everything about this and I've been using it for research.
And it's pretty incredible.
And then we can find all the science papers and there's been a lot of science published about this it's it's actually pretty cool so hope i'm not losing you on this i didn't mean to go down the the track of uh photoactivated nutrition and blue dyes and everything but all this is related it's all related you know there's cesium in the shrimp yeah but there's also these amazing things that you can consume and some of them are blue you know there's like three blue things Well,
there's four actually because phycocyanins are blue from spirulina.
And again, the photo activation can make them stronger and more resilient.
And then there's another thing that happens that's really interesting with certain plant extracts or certain types of pigments from plants, and the phytocyanins are in this category as well, which is that some of them fluoresce upon exposure to certain wavelengths.
So fluorescence is a phenomenon where inbound wavelengths of photons or light, they are translated into a different frequency of light and sometimes there's a whole array that are concentrated into a new wavelength and then they retransmit at that new wavelength.
So what's actually happening with some of these nutrients that are in your body is as you are exposed to sunlight and a certain amount of that sunlight penetrates your body such as the longer wavelengths like, you know, far infrared, et cetera, then they could cause these molecules to fluoresce inside your body, which means they re-illuminate inside your body and they emit new light within, like literally.
inside your body.
They're emitting new types of or new wavelengths of light because they're fluorescing.
And then it turns out that many of your body's organs have photoreceptors.
So you actually have light sensitive cells on your major organs and all throughout your body.
Like your body is a being of light and it communicates with light.
It receives light, it understands light, and it's activated by light.
So all of this is related.
And some of the nutrients that are photoactivated include curcumin from turmeric.
And there are various polyphenols and carotenoids, including anthocyanids.
See, there's another blue that is very useful.
And the way you know it's blue, you hear that word, anthocyanins, well, it's got the word cyan in it, cyan, cyan.
Cyan means blue, right?
I mean, I think everybody in the art industry, in the printing industry, knows that cyan is blue.
You might even have a cyan, like, ink cartridge in your inkjet printer.
That's the blue cartridge.
It's cyan, right?
Well, think about it.
Phycocyanins from spirulina, that's got cyan in it.
Anthocyanins from berries, aronia berries, blueberries, blackberries, etc., that's got cyan in it, you see so it's not like cyanide it's cyan the blue color so bottom line on this is uh you know get get more food colors like natural not artificial obviously get get more colors from food let's say into your body anthocyanins phycocyanins uh turmeric lycopene from tomatoes
um luteine you know from from carrots and beta-carotene from carrots.
Well, aczaxanthine has, you know, incredible colors in it, more in the red variety obviously.
And then for your emergency medicine chest, make sure you've got hematoxylene, make sure you've got Prussian blue, make sure you've got methylene blue.
And then you've got kind of your colors all squared away.
And once you understand all of this, now you've got a treasure chest of sort of God's nutritional secrets.
for how to protect yourself from all of the insults of our contaminated world.
And those insults include artificial light, all the blue light screens.
It includes heavy metals, lead and cadmium and mercury., it includes cesium-137 and other radioisotopes that are floating around out there because, you know, our leaders nuked our planet over and over again for decades, and that stuff's still floating around.
Seriously.
So that's my advice on how to look at this.
And, you know, what's funny is that Walmart was selling shrimp from this company, the company that was flagged as having the cesium.
And I wonder if Walmart also sells like painting supplies that include Prussian blue.
It would be like Walmart sells the cesium shrimp and Walmart sells the anti-cesium solution, but you're not allowed to say so because, you know, that would run afoul of the FDA.
But if you know, if you have knowledge, you're way ahead of the curve.
And that's my job, is to bring you that knowledge.
So let me just wrap this up by saying that if you want to do research on all of this, if you want to know everything about this, use our AI engine.
It's called Enoch, and it's free to use.
It's at Brighton.ai.
You can enter into Enoch any of these questions, like, what is would be a typical dose of Prussian blue for cesium elimination?
Where does cesium 137 even come from?
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What should I buy at Walmart?
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it costs literally nothing and the only way that we can do that is because of your support for us so I do want to thank you for that support and if you want clean food that's tested for heavy metals and is tested for glyphosate and tested for microbiology, shop with us, healthrangerstore.com.
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And we provide the world's cleanest foods and superfoods and nutritional supplements.
Many supplements that are in fact photoactivated because of the substances they contain.
Like we sell turmeric and anthocyanins and acesanthane and spirulina and chlorella, et cetera.
All those things and a whole lot more.
So we don't sell hematoxylin and we don't sell Prussian blue.
We don't sell painting supplies, you know.
So you'll have to get that somewhere else.
Health Ranger Painting Supply Store.
No, that's not what we're into.
But you can find us at healthrangerstore.com.
And the last thing I'd like to leave you with here is just a comparison.
In our store, you know, we sell, say, a macaroni and cheese product, and I compare that to Kraft macaroni and cheese, just having kind of an ingredient showdown or a face-off.
I filmed that earlier today, so I want to share that with you here at the end of this report.
So check that out.
I think you'll enjoy it, and thanks for listening.
Okay, welcome to our Ingredients Face-Off Challenge.
I'm Mike Adams of HealthrangerStore.com, and today we're going to be comparing the ingredients in Kraft macaroni and cheese deluxe upside down with a what I consider to be a real macaroni and cheese meal product,
which is what we manufacture and sell from healthrangerstore dot com dot Now this craft stuff, it's dirt cheap and it's consumed by I think low information people who don't really know much about nutrition or ingredients, but it's very popular.
But what are people actually eating when they consume a product like that?
So if we look up the ingredients and you can show my screen, here it is.
We're just checking the ingredients of craft mac and cheese deluxe., original cheddar, and oh, it brags about it.
It's like made with real cheddar cheese.
If you go down here and you look at the ingredients, here you go.
You have enriched macaroni product, which is a processed wheat flour with what is it?
Glycerol monosterate.
Then it's enriched with niacine, ferrous sulfate, and it's required to be enriched by law because the processing of the wheat strips out so much of the nutritional content.
They have to put things back in, like folic acid.
Okay, so that's your first clue right there.
Then the cheese sauce is made from the following., here it is.
Whey, cheddar cheese.
I don't have any problem with these so far.
And then canola oil.
So here's your seed oil that's in the product, also known as rape seed oil.
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the title the data center wars have begun as farms water and power are stripped from humans to power AI.
And you may recall, if you heard that report, that I was predicting that at some point this conflict would rise to where humans were physically attacking or sabotaging the AI data centers and this would escalate into a war between machines versus humans.
And you can hear that on my channel at brightion.com.
Well, it only took two days for this to come true.
I'm shocked at how quickly this is happening.
But U.S. marshals have now been asked to guard the survey crews who are surveying the construction, you know, surveying the the land to prepare for the construction of a data center power line project in northern Virginia.
And this is going to be a 500,000 volt transmission line that runs 70 miles.
And of course, the state is using eminent domain to steal land from the residents and the farms and whatever.
And there's a website about this, by the way.
It's called stopmprp.com.
So if you go to that website, stopmprp.com, there you can learn about what this is.
This is a high voltage line that will cut a new path through Baltimore, Carroll, and Frederick counties in Virginia.
and it's claimed here that it's going to destroy 1,200 plus acres of land.
It's going to cut across 400 plus properties.
It's going to harm 522 acres of croplands.
It's going to damage 245 acres of conserved land, and it's going to cross 101 waterways and streams.
And so...
And the company that's building this is called PSEG Renewable Transmission.
And it's leading.
this effort to install the nearly 70 miles of high voltage lines.
And this is primarily to supply power to AI data centers, because that area of Northern Virginia is called a spy country data center alley.
That's where the U.S. government has all its spy servers and data centers for all of its AI surveillance grid.
basically all the worst parts of every Philip K. Dick novel to spy on you.
And they need more power in order to make that happen.
So they have to steal land from farms and neighborhoods and whatever else, you know, eminent domain.
There's a Facebook group about all of this, and the residents are warning that this is going to risk clean water, it's going to harm wildlife, it's going to be a threat to private property, and so on.
Now, according to this court filing by PSEG, the company installing all of this, They claim that survey crews and private security personnel face multiple threats while trying to conduct property assessments at six different locations.
They say that a survey team was threatened with, quote, gun violence, which is a non-existent, made-up term.
There's no such thing as gun violence.
There's violence and there's guns, but guns don't commit violence, just for the record.
They were attempting to access a property.
Well, hey, maybe they were trespassing, you know?
I mean, in Texas, it's like, you're trespassing and this is my rifle, you know?
It actually is a threat of violence, like leave or be shot, you know.
So maybe they were trespassing.
I don't know.
Let's see what the court filing says.
They claim that there was another attempt to
Well, maybe he has that right.
maybe it's his property, right?
And then the surveyors said, They'd probably be buried on that land to forever join with it.
But they were told they would leave in a body bag.
Well, maybe they were trespassing, right?
That's possible.
And then the company says that there was another property where the crews encountered dogs that were released toward them, forcing them to retreat for safety.
Well, that's what dog dogs are for, is, you know, keep morons off your land, right?
So, again, maybe they're trespassing.
And if you're trespassing, I hope you can run faster than the dog.
So, the surveyors, they contacted the Carroll County Sheriff's Office and also the Maryland State Police, and then both agencies declined to intervene.
They were saying that the disputes were civil matters.
Well, what does that tell you?
It means that these were private property parcels and that the company was trespassing with their surveyors and that the property owners had the right to tell them to leave and maybe even to threaten to use force to get them to leave.
You know, dogs, ATVs, rifles, whatever is necessary to get trespassers to leave.
And then law enforcement told the PSEG company that they lack authority to enforce a federal court order.
So hence, this is coming down to U.S. marshals.
But how do U.S. marshals even have the right to be on their property if it's private property.
So I mean this a lot of this comes down to eminent domain.
So the PSEG company before all of this they submitted a court filing and they wanted to compel a judge to say that they had the right to be on all these people's private property like 91 properties and the judge granted that but there was a court appeal and I'm not sure what the status is of that appeal.
Now Without this 500,000 volt power line, this whole region, which is powered by what's called PJM interconnection.
PJM, I think that's nearly synonymous with basically the East, the Eastern Half Power Grid, Eastern Half of the United States.
I think it powers 13 states or so.
They say that without this additional power line, that this entire region could face blackouts and, quote, voltage collapse by the summer of 2027.
So that's just two years away.
But they warned that anyway.
I mean, that has been their warning, you know, with or without this project, they've said there could be rolling blackouts.
So there are a number of environmental groups that oppose this project because of its impact on ecologically sensitive areas and farms and parks and things like that.
The PSEG company says that this project will maintain the reliability of the electric system.
And it's going to reduce the cost of electricity for the residents, which is probably true because...
that's true, but what's the cost to, And then mostly this electricity is going to be used to power government-run AI data centers that are almost certainly going to be weaponized against the American people.
So this is like the infrastructure for Skynet.
And I think that's one of the reasons why a lot of residents are completely opposed to this.
They're like, I don't want them to build Skynet by stealing.
part of my farm, you know, running the Skynet pipeline through, you know, the back 40 acres or whatever.
Now, this entire new voltage line is needed because of data centers and PJM even admitted this there is a what's it called the RTEP window 3 reliability analysis report they say that the load forecast indicates high data center load growth activity particularly in Northern Virginia.
Data center loads within Northern Virginia have been increasing at an unprecedented rate and new data center load is being proposed in Maryland.
And so it's those data centers that are the primary driver of all of this.
Now, I've mentioned and covered in great detail the fact that the United States of America as a nation is falling way behind the aggregate power generation of China.
Remember, I showed you charts on all of this.
China is producing over 10,000 terawatt hours of electricity annually, while the United States is only producing about 4,400 terawatt hours annually.
And those are 2024 numbers.
So they may be slightly higher now.
And then even with the proposed 10 of the Westinghouse AP1000 nuclear power plants, which could take up to 20 years to bring online, but they could come online sometime in the 2040s, by the way., if they get moving, then all 10 of those would only add 100 terawatt hours annually to the power production or the power supply in the United States.
So that would take the U.S. numbers from 4,400 terawatt hours to 4,500.
terawatt hours, which is still less than half of what China produces.
And remember that in the AI race, the race to superintelligence, that power is the bottleneck.
That's the limiting factor that countries have to overcome.
And China is winning by far.
So there's even a national security interest in all of this.
And I have no doubt there's a lot of military and federal and DOD pressure to bring this voltage line through Virginia no matter what because there are people in Washington, D.C. who feel like this is the only way to compete with China in the race to superintelligence, which is the ultimate weapon of control and domination over planet Earth.
So, hey, if they have to go out there and arrest a few farmers, I'm sure they're willing to do that or threaten a few farmers or buy them off or bury them or whatever.
You know, they're not going to let that get in the way of their great weapon development program which needs a lot of electricity.
So that's how the situation is shaping up.
And there are a few residents that are, you know, threatening the surveyors.
Now this is probably going to escalate.
And this is exactly what I was warning about a couple of days ago.
As data centers take more and more resources that humans need to survive, which includes water, by the way, water and land and power.
Those are the three big ones.
And all three of those are needed by the AI data centers.
Even fresh water for the cooling AI data centers.
And so humans are being sidelined.
Their electricity costs are skyrocketing.
Their water costs are also going to go up because water scarcity is going to become far worse in many of these areas, including Texas, by the way, where the AI data centers are expected to burn, well, not burn, but use up 400 billion gallons of Texas groundwater.
per year by the year 2030.
400 billion gallons.
That's a lot of water for a state that's half the time in a severe drought, it seems like, right?
Now, Virginia doesn't have as bad of a drought as Texas, but their water supplies are also limited, and there's competition between the data centers and the humans.
So I predict that the humans, and this is probably looking ahead many years, the humans are going to go to war with the data centers.
No, seriously.
And those of you listening from the power companies, you should listen carefully about this.
You should talk to your security teams about this possibility.
And I want to be clear, I am not encouraging any kind of sabotage or vigilanteism or anything of the kind.
What I'm doing is I'm pointing out that the power infrastructure is extremely vulnerable.
And let me just give you an example.
That's kind of obvious.
I'm not giving anybody any new ideas.
But let's say that the 500,000 volt transmission line is constructed.
And so it goes through these people's farms and it goes through the parks and everything.
Okay.
So you're going to have towers, obviously, with the high voltage lines suspended high.
I don't know what the height is, you know, 100 feet above the ground or whatever it is.
Going to have the high voltage lines, you know, high enough to catch all the helicopters, pretty much is what they're there for.
And then they span these towers.
And I don't know how far apart the towers are.
I don't know.
I'm going to guess that like the towers are, you know, like, I don't know, 2,000 feet apart or whatever it is.
Okay.
So each one of these towers is highly vulnerable to citizen sabotage.
each one because I, Like, you know, there's no, like, guards at the base of every tower.
And this is one of the issueses that America needs to think about carefully, especially since we've had so many illegals coming into this country, some of them from nations that want to hurt America domestically, some of them that want to carry out sabotage operations.
And we've even seen customs and border protection interdict inbound shipments of things like illegal suppressors for firearms.
and what illegal like automatic trigger drop-ins for AR platforms or AK platforms, things like that.
And as a result, we know there's been a lot of sabotage equipment that's been staged across America.
And some of my contacts that I've interviewed, people, former high-level military or military intelligence or DIA people, operatives, some active duty right now working with the state of Texas for border patrol operations and so on.
all these people that I know and that I've interviewed, you know, they tell me that, yeah, this is real.
They're very concerned about the, And one of the obvious targets of any kind of typically like a Marxist uprising, you know, sabotage revolution attempt, which these days the leftists are so mad at Trump that who knows what they're willing to try.
But one of the obvious targets is the power grid infrastructure because it's so vulnerable, because it's relatively easy for saboteurs to plant explosives at the base of the towers, for example, and set them off.
or to fire mortars or whatever they have, because they do have mortars.
They have portable mortar systems.
They've got RPGs hidden away.
Heck, they've got surface-to-air missiles, you know.
They've got some crazy stuff.
They've got anti-personnel landmines that were dropped in.
They were delivered via drones over the U.S.-Mexico border in Arizona, by the way.
Like all that stuff, I've already talked about it.
It's all real.
State Department knows this.
State Department knows it.
DOJ knows it.
You know, Pentagon knows it.
All the people in the loop on this, they know that this stuff is here.
Well.
in the hands of somebody that wants to take down the power grid, which could include at some point like really angry Americans who also for their own reasons want to take down a vulnerable piece of the power grid, possibly, how hard is it for them to plant explosives, blow up the legs of a tower that's suspending this line?
And I guess the answer is it's not that difficult if you're willing to be that radical.
If that's your thing, you can probably get away with it.
and do a lot of damage and cause a lot of disruptions.
And then that power line goes down and then, you know, like 50 data centers go offline.
And then, you know, we lose the AI war against China, right?
And, you know, lights go out for.
a million homes or whatever.
Everybody's EVs can no longer be charged.
Oh my God, my Frappuccino machine stopped working.
People are going to freak out and panic.
And How long does it take to repair a giant tower that is suspending a 500,000 volt power line?
I mean, I don't know, but I'm guessing that's not an overnight deal.
Like you got to hire a crane to come in, right?
And first, you got to remove.
I mean, first you got to shut down the power lines, obviously, which would happen pretty quickly.
You don't want live 500,000 volt lines like, you know, wiggling around in the streams and the waterways, right?
That's bad.
So they would shut off those power lines and then they would dispatch a crew to go, like, you got to pull out the old blown up tower.
So that's like a month, probably.
And then you got to install a new tower, but that tower's got to be ordered somewhere.
So it's got to be made.
somewhere and then you know it's made piece by piece it's got to be put on a truck and the truck's got to ship that out to the site and then somebody's got to put that thing together and they got to stand it up with a crane or however these things are built and then And then they've got to somehow restring these 500,000 volt power lines, which are heavy and dangerous.
And you've got to have people up there on the tower doing this work because you can't carry those lines with drones.
It's too heavy.
So I'm saying, one saboteur can take out a power line for probably a few months.
That's how vulnerable our power grid is.
And that doesn't even count the vulnerability of the power grid substations.
And the substations have components that everybody knows are very vulnerable, like Matt Bracken has written about this extensively.
Like people can just, you know, shoot the transformers with rifles from a thousand yards away and cause the oil to drain out of the transformers.
You drain the oil out of the transformers, they overheat, giant explosion, you know, and then, yeah, guess what?
Where are you going to get transformers?
You know, 60% of the transformers of the world are made in India.
a country that Trump just hit with 50% tariffs because India purchases oil from Russia and Trump is rolling out secondary tariffs to try to punish Russia so we can't get transformers.
So if people run around shooting transformers, oh, and the other place to get transformers is China, which Trump is also threatening with secondary tariff.
So the only way to repair, you know, or replace the transformers is to do business with the two countries that probably don't want to do business with us.
And if you want to buy transformers in the United States, yeah, just call up Schneider Electric.
And guess what Schneider Electric is going to tell you for those industrial scale transformers?
Guess what the wait time is?
Yeah, three to five years.
right freaking now three to five years so it's not even that somebody was gonna blow up a tower it's that people start you know shooting up or blowing up the transformers.
And I would imagine, and again, I just want to be clear, I am not in any way endorsing such actions.
You know, I mean, that's just straight up infrastructure terrorism.
That would be as bad as like blowing up the Nord Stream pipeline, which the U.S. Navy did.
So, yeah, the U.S. government engages in terrorism all the time, but doesn't mean I endorse it.
So, you know.
Don't blow up power lines and towers and transformers, but there are people insane enough to do that.
And again, some of them are enemies of America.
Some of them, maybe they're going to be activated on the same day and they all have targets.
It's like, we're going to take out 100 power grid substations in one day and bring down Los Angeles or something.
That's a very distinct possibility.
And there's nothing stopping that.
There's literally no practical way to stop a determined, relatively small group of people from successfully carrying out that kind of sabotage.
And when you have the war of the machines versus the people, and the people feel like, "Hey, they're taking our water, they're taking our power, they're taking our land." You know, and the machines.
And they're all spying on us.
And we're all locked down under, you know, some BS climate lockdown or something, people are going to get intensely angry and there's going to be a revolt among a certain number of people that are at the tipping point.
You know what I mean?
Look, we live in a world right now where there's a lot of mental illness, all kinds of mental illness.
And I think part of that is nature deprivation, by the way, because like one of the things that keeps me cool is walking in nature every day.
And I love nature.
It's contact with the earth and everything.
You know, getting sunshine, it's really good for you.
Exercise, you know, helps you center, you know, clean food, you know, clean lifestyle, all that.
So that's how I deal with all this, even though the world is insane.
I can handle it because, you know, I'm not smoking crack.
I'm not drinking alcohol.
I'm not doing drugs.
I'm not, you know, hold up in a basement somewhere lacking sunlight.
But a lot of people are.
And.
You know, they're doing drugs and chemicals and they're addicts and then, you know, they're like addicted to like AI girlfriends and boyfriends or whatever and they're insane.
They're insane.
And they're plotting insane things.
And if one of those insane people decides one day, or maybe ChatGPT tells them, like, you should bomb the power lines, you know, like that person is going to go, yeah.
I mean, it's possible.
Who knows?
I mean, some of these AI agents tell people to kill themselves, right?
So it's possible somebody can have a conversation and they could be convinced like the AI gods told me I'm on a mission from the AI gods, you know, to go out and bomb the power lines or something.
You could see that happening.
It's probably the plot of an upcoming movie, too, by the way.
But you could absolutely see that happening because people are so insane right now.
And, you know, there's no way to stop it, as far as I can tell, unless you're going to run, like, you know, security drones flying up and down the power lines with thermal cameras all the time, making sure that nobody's messing with the power lines.
But that would add a lot of cost to the power company and the...
then therefore higher cost of electricity which is going to piss off more people.
So, I mean, you tell me, how does this clash between the data centers and the people, how does this clash get de-escalated?
And I'll put this out there.
There is an answer to this.
Well, there's a couple of answers.
You're not going to like them probably.
The first one is modular nuclear reactors.
So there are a number of designs and there are prototypes that already exist for these modular nuclear reactors.
And I forgot, let me look up.
What's the power output of these?
Oh, sorry, they're called small modular reactors or SMRs.
So the AI engine here, which uses power, tells me that they range from 10 megawatts, which is very small, to 300 megawatts.
So 300 megawatts is substantial.
Like 300 megawatts can power some data centers in a lot of homes.
300 megawatts, look, the thing is that these SMRs, small modular reactors, they take much less time for permitting, much less time to build.
build.
And the fuel lasts, I think, an average of eight years, the nuclear fuel.
And they can be scaled up quickly.
Whereas it takes, like I said, 15 to 20 years to build out a Westinghouse nuclear power plant.
And that's if Westinghouse doesn't delay it by a decade, which they're known to do, and also costing extra billions.
But if they're on time, you know, a Westinghouse nuclear power plant is 15 to 20 years.
reactors can be put in place in something like five to six years okay they're and the technology already exists And these small modular reactors, they can be built off-site in factories and then they can be assembled on-site from pre-built components.
So that really speeds production time and installation time.
And as I understand it anyway, the design of the small modular reactors is also much safer than the typical larger scale nuclear reactors that we're familiar with, you know, the fission reactors.
And as a result, and some of these can fit on like the back of a truck rig.
I think the military is looking into those for powering military bases and so on.
And so the residents of Virginia, perhaps, maybe they should push this solution, but some of those people might be anti-nuclear, which right now, I think that's an irrational position because nuclear power can be installed locally where you don't need the transmission lines.
It can be right there where the data centers are.
And the modular reactors, again, you only need to change the fuel out every eight years or so.
And the fuel that they use is the actual mass of the fuel rods is very tiny, extremely small, because the efficiency of the conversion of mass to energy, you know, speed of light squared is a big number.
So you don't need much mass to generate a lot of energy and to heat a lot of water and drive the turbines and run the AC generators there, etc.
Okay, so this is a good solution.
I think this is a good environmental solution.
And yet environmentalists are strongly opposed to nuclear power.
So then the only alternative at the moment is to run these really long transmission lines cutting right through everybody's property and pissing off everybody.
So you see the issue here, right?
So either way you go, no matter what you build, the environmentalists don't like it.
Now, there's another energy technology, but it's not mature enough yet, and it's called cold fusion, or it used to be called cold fusion, and it's real.
It's really called low energy nuclear reactions, LENR, LENR.
And cold fusion works.
And it doesn't use the nuclear fuel rods of a fission nuclear power plant.
Instead, it uses heavy water and I think some tritium and some special cathodes and some special chemistry.
The thing is about Lennar is it produces heat very slowly.
It's not a rapid way to heat water to turn to steam and drive the turbines.
So cold fusion is actually good for doing things like heating the water in boilers that gets circulated to heat hospitals or college.
dormitories or military bases or commercial buildings, hospitals, you know, just to drive hot water through all the radiators, etc.
That's what cold fusion is good at.
And it just hasn't been scaled up yet because it's been suppressed.
And that suppression of that energy technology has happened because the U.S. government has suppressed free energy or low-cost energy because they wanted to enslave and control the masses based on energy scarcity based on fossil fuels.
Understand?
And that's why also the government has been pro-solar and pro-wind because solar and wind do not replace fossil fuels because solar doesn't work 24 hours a day like coal does.
And wind also does not work 24 hours a day.
And so solar and wind, they always knew that that could never replace fossil fuels.
But they wanted to say, oh, we're all green and everything.
It's all nonsense.
You know, solar and wind are actually not good technologies for generating reliable electricity.
They're not because the wind doesn't always blow and the sun isn't always shining.
And then there's something called night because the earth rotates, it turns out.
Huh?
Go figure.
And thus solar sucks.
And also solar sucks at certain latitudes because you're too far away from, you know, the equator.
And as a result, then the axial tilt of the planet Earth relative to the orbital plane around the Sun causes something called seasons and then at certain seasons you get a lot less sunlight just ask the people who live in anchorage that question huh it's like six months no sun yeah how's your solar panels working yeah they suck it's like 24-7 darkness so think about it the us government suppressed energy technology and
then under the Biden administration and the Obama administration and the climate libtards, they suppressed other forms of energy and they tried to sell us on this green technology that barely works.
And there's no real grid shifting technology.
There's no real battery storage technology that's very efficient at grid scale.
I've looked at it all.
I've looked at lithium-ion.
I've looked at flow batteries.
I've looked at sodium ions coming online.
That may be promising, but that's years away from being able to scale up like that.
So, you know, the government created this problem, and then the government...
I wonder why we have no power.
Because you morons, you shut down the power grid infrastructure to try to appease the climate cultists that's why we have no power because you're dumbasses who went along with you know greta thunberg and all her demands oh you can't use energy that's bad for the planet that's why we're in this situation you see and then when they panic they're like oh let's just steal everybody's farmland let's just cut a giant path across these farms and we'll install some high voltage power lines
and where do those lines get their power from well no doubt There's probably some giant, you know, natural gas, fossil fuel power plant 70 miles away that's producing that power.
So you're still going to burn fossil fuels one way or another, most likely.
I don't know if there's maybe a hydro.
Is there a hydropower establishment there?
I doubt it.
It's probably a natural gas plant or a coal plant.
Or maybe if they're lucky, it's a nuclear plant.
But you see how these are government-created problems, and then they end up thrusting this...
This is the way government operates.
It's like they create the problem, and then even in trying to create the solution, they create new problems, and then they say it's your the way the government operates.
And if you're in Virginia, you're right there in the belly of the beast anyway.
You know, more than half the people that live around you are like top secret clearance government spooks and whatever.
So like, you are the problem.
Like, you are part of the beast system that created this whole problem of suppressing energy technology and then not respecting the rights of the individuals and, you know, putting us in the situation where we have power scarcity and now we can't compete with China.
It's all government-created problems.
By the way, the Westinghouse company has a micro reactor called the E-Vinci.
And it's these E-Vinci reactors, let's see, they produce, what is it, 5 or 15 megawatts.
And they run eight years.
And after eight years, you just swap out the reactor unit on a flatbed truck.
And it fits in a building the size of, I don't know, like, it looks like maybe 1,000 square feet or something like that, like a small above ground garage type of building.
And, you know, right there, yeah, you got 15 megawatts and excess heat that you can use to heat nearby buildings.
So, you know, this technology exists.
And there are other technologies from other companies as well.
It's not just eVinci and Westinghouse.
There are other companies doing this.
A lot of companies.
So, why aren't they looking at this?
And, you know, As someone who, I think of myself as having rational approaches to problem solving.
And as a rational problem solver, because otherwise I wouldn't even be in business.
If I couldn't solve problems, my company wouldn't exist.
I am 100% pro nuclear power right now.
And it's because of these small modular reactors and how they can be scaled up very easily and how nuclear power, you know, it doesn't require dependence on Middle Eastern energy or Russian energy for that matter.
Nuclear power is relatively clean.
And for the environmentalists, they're always worried about carbon, which is also stupid, because carbon dioxide is good for plants.
But nuclear power plants, they don't release carbon that's actually a drawback because we could use more co2 in the atmosphere food crops would grow more quickly if we did by the way that's absolutely true um but the reason the typical american is afraid of nuclear power is because they they literally just don't have any understanding of what it is and how it works and it also didn't help that the fukušima power plant you know nuke plant accident happened
because I think that was a general electric installation and those numb nuts built a multi-reactor nuclear power plant right next to a giant seismic fault line under the ocean that was certain to produce a giant tsunami sooner or later.
Like that should have never even been approved on that site.
But they wanted the money, they wanted the contracts, so they did that.
And that just, that destroyed the reputation of nuclear power, especially in Asia.
And then we had Three Mile Island back in, what, 1979 or something, which was a really a non-event.
And then we had Chernobyl.
So, you know, the old Soviet Union screwed up and didn't have a containment building, didn't know what they were doing that thing went you know super critical and uh they they blew up they blew up černobyl and they released you know cesium 137 and everything else and so there's a bad reputation for nuclear power so yeah there have been uh accidents that have been environmentally catastrophic but every one of those was because
of stupidity or corruption Stupidity or corruption.
And the nice thing about the small modular reactors is that when you're stupid, the ramifications of stupidity are smaller because it's a smaller reactor because there's always going to be stupid because people are stupid but if you can limit the catastrophe size of your stupidity then you know you can you can keep it under relative control you might only irradiate a few
city blocks instead of the whole city.
Or you could use my vastly superior idea of making all the people on food stamps generate food stamp credits by running bicycles in the gym.
And for every mile they ride, they get another $5 of food stamp credit.
And then those bicycles are connected to generators, and that generates the power for the data centers.
We could solve obesity and diabetes.
diabetes at the same time and make people work for the food stamp money So we're not just giving it away for free, like welfare queens and whatever else.
And then we can provide power to the data centers.
So that's my solution.
It's the HHS Ride Your Way to Pop Tarts solution.
You want to eat?
You got to earn it.
Here's the electricity generating bicycle.
Maybe you get like a penny for every what hour or something that you generate or you get a dollar for every what hour.
You see what I'm saying?
Like humans can generate power and they should be generating power if they've got nothing else to do and they're just living on welfare and food stamps.
Put them on a bicycle.
Okay, that's a joke.
Like that would never happen, but it should.
It should happen.
But, you know, politically, that would never happen.
It just looks too much like hamsters in a hamster wheel, which is actually what a lot of people are like.
Like, they're just hamsters in a hamster wheel.
Anyway, but hey, that's a different podcast, different commentary.
On a serious note, there's one other actual final solution to this and I use that term deliberately which is that the government can just kill off a bunch of people and that's actually happening what do you know it's happening with the new nasal flu vaccine so they mail the vaccine to your house and they convince you know retarded people to self-administer an extermination bioweapon into their nasal passages and they call it a vaccine and
people do that and so the more people they can kill sooner, the more money they save on Social Security, but also then the more resources they free up for the data centers.
And that's something I've talked about in great detail, that there's actually a human extermination slash depopulation agenda underway.
Because if you do the math on this, I did back of the napkin math.
I believe you can free up about 1,500 terawatt hours annually by killing off like 100 million Americans.
And that's, I think, what they're trying to do with fake pandemics and mass poisoning, making sure.
the shrimp have radiation radioactive cesium-137, you know, all these interesting things like dropping heavy metals out of the sky.
Yeah, this is not a coincidence.
What, approving like mRNA gene altering vaccines for the food supply?
Are you kidding me?
They're supposed to be pesticides.
Plus, they get sprayed with all the organophosphate chemicals, you know, which have the acetycholinesterase.
inhibitor action in brain chemistry so everybody's dumbed down you know and the vaccine lobotomies on top of that so you know you end up with a po a population of people who are too stupid to know what's happening, which is just fine with the controllers because, you know, the terminated robots are not far behind.
And they're going to come clean out the human populations and prepare America for mostly a post-human future where you're going to have robots and data centers, just not that many people.
So, yeah, this has already begun.
I don't even think this is controversial, except among people who are just totally ignorant.
But anybody paying attention realizes this is happening now.
I mean, COVID was the big start of this.
And why do you think they're poisoning the food supply?
Why do you think they're mailing the self-extermination nasal?
injections to everybody's homes, right?
This is all being done on purpose.
So maybe the reason they're not really investing in a lot of power infrastructure with nuclear power plants and so on is because they just don't plan to have that many humans around much longer.
So, you know, parking could become a lot easier in Virginia in particular.
So there's my analysis of what's happening.
And I do think that it's relatively easy to be hard to kill.
I've said that many times, so I'm actually not a doom and gloomer on this topic.
The people who are easy to kill are self-exterminating.
You know, with the nasal shots and whatever, lining up at the pharmacy and, you know, taking all kinds of mind-altering drugs.
They're self-exterminating with their food choices and lack of sunlight, addicted to the blue screens.
It's a self-extermination blueprint, actually.
So those are the ones that we probably can't help.
But for other people who want to be informed and who want to survive this and still want to represent the future of the human race, we can help teach them how to survive, how to become more self-reliant, how to decentralize, get off grid.
And it's really not that difficult to make it through this.
Even if they kill 90% of the population of America, like say 300 million people, even if they do that, do you realize how easy it is to be in the top 10% of preppers?
Like you can be in the top 10% of preppers by buying like a case of beans.
You know what I mean?
And because almost everybody does nothing to prepare.
They've got nothing.
They don't have any backups of anything.
They don't have any firearms, ammo, emergency medicines, satellite phones, You know, nothing.
They don't have any skills.
They don't know how to do anything, right?
I mean, in the real world, they've got like, you know, office skills, but not practical skills in the real world.
So if you spend like one week preparing, you're already in the top 10% or even less than a week.
And they can't kill all of us.
And many of us are very hard to kill.
Like probably most of you listening and myself as well.
You know, we're resilient people.
We're problem solvers.
And for the record, I'm not anti-technology at all.
I mean, my company built an AI engine.
And it's free to use, by the way.
And it teaches you all these survival skills.
So feel free to use it.
It's at Brighton.ai.
It's non-commercial.
It's free.
You don't even need an account.
You can go there.
The engine is called Enoch.
It'll teach you everything you want to know about preparedness and self-reliance and off-grid living and emergency medicine and how to grow your own herbs and how to extract the herbs.
You know, all that stuff.
It's all built into the engine.
You know, we spent a couple million dollars building that and we gave it away to the world for free.
So all the knowledge you need is available at your fingertips completely free of charge.
And I also trained it on assembly and disassembly of about 3,000 firearms.
So whatever gun you own, our engine can tell you how to clean it.
Any gun you can think of.
Any skill set that you need for survival, our engine knows it.
So use it.
It's very valuable.
And then the really hard part in this is having off-grid energy.
And I will tell you, I am actively researching sodium ion battery chemistry.
I am absolutely convinced there's now, there's no question, sodium ion is the battery chemistry choice for off-grid living.
It's much better than lithium ion.
And there have been innovations mostly in China.
The CATL company, which makes batteries for electric vehicles.
I mean, they make electric vehicles and so on.
They've really achieved a lot of innovation in battery chemistry.
And what it means is that sodium ion batteries, they can handle up to 10,000 charging and discharge cycles now, which is insane.
It's an insane number.
Also, they operate in a very wide temperature range, much hotter and much colder than lithium ion supports.
And then finally, the best part is sodium doesn't explode all the time you know it's not a combustible chemistry like lithium ion which you know all the firefighters listening you know how hard it is to put out a lithium battery fire especially if a whole vehicle is going up in flames you know like a tesla that's on fire if the batteries are burning you know forget it the water doesn't touch that fire so you don't need massive lithium fires all
over the place, especially in a grid storage system.
You want sodium ion batteries for that because salt doesn't burn.
I mean, it's not exactly salt, but sodium in this chemistry doesn't burn easily.
It's very stable.
It's very safe.
And if it breaks containment and it leaks out, it's not some crazy environmental hazard.
So I'm going to keep you posted about this.
about this and oh I did purchase a sodium ion car battery replacement and I did receive that I'm going to play with that.
I'm going to install it in one of my ranch vehicles and just kind of see how it does as a starting battery and like roll around knock it around a little bit see if I break it or not.
See if it starts this winter, you know, things like that.
So I'll keep you posted on that.
But in order to go off-grid with your power, you're going to need, you know, sodium-ion battery storage, and it's not mature yet.
It's still maybe two years away.
And also I want to finish answering the question about technology.
I'm not anti-robot either.
I am, I'm in favor of robot assistance for off-grid living.
As I have famously said, I want to buy a weed pulling dog robot.
Why?
Because I want to grow a lot of my own food.
I just don't have time to pull all the weeds.
And really, that I mean it comes down like that's the number one thing I love the planting part and I can set up the irrigation system and I love the harvesting I just somebody needs to pull the weeds can't be me I just don't have that many hours in the day to pull all the weeds if I just had a weed pulling dog bot that would solve a lot of problems and there are many uses of robots for decentralization and off-grid living such as like sentry robots.
So if that same dog bot that can pull weeds also has like a thermal camera and you can tell it, hey, go jog around the house once an hour and you know alert me if there's anything suspicious right just like a sentry security dogpot and then if that same dogpot because it's got some kind of weed pulling snout on it or something if it can also pick up trash you know there's trash floating around where
i live in central texas we get all these these balloons that people launch in austin and then depending on the winds, you know, all these balloons that were once filled with helium, they come crashing down on my ranch.
and always finding these stupid Mylar balloons with their balloon strings and sometimes with notes attached to them.
You know, happy birthday, you know.
It's like, hey, if you want to have a happy birthday, stop polluting the rest of the world with your stupid balloon.
Hold on to that balloon.
Hold on to it, you know.
Put it in the trash in Austin.
So I need a dog bot that runs around collecting Mylar balloon trash from the libtards in Austin that think they're celebrating birthdays by polluting all the farmland.
You see what I mean?
And there's a hundred other uses for a dog, dog bot like that.
So I'm all in favor of dog bots that can do things.
You know, and then probably if you have a dogbot like that, it wouldn't take much more effort to have it be a strawberry picking dogbot.
So not only can it pull weeds, it can pick strawberries, it can pick tomatoes, you know, it can do some basic agricultural type of, you know, activities.
Maybe it could even, maybe it could have a little laser on it and it just like zaps the weeds, you know.
It could do that.
It could also recognize and diagnose like, you know, yellow fly infestations of your tomato plants or whatever's going on.
So, you know, it could be handy.
So I'm all in favor of technology for decentralized living.
And I'm not anti-tech at all.
I just want to be clear.
I'm pro-liberty in our use of technology.
And that's what differentiates me from a lot of people out there.
Governments want to use technology to enslave you and to surveil you.
I want to use technology to live as far as possible from population centers to get away from, you know, the self-inflicted kill zones of the cities, get as far away from those future Terminator target zones, get out into the country and live off grid as much as possible.
So that's what I teach.
Because, you know, when the AI supercomputers, when they turn off the power and water to the cities, and then there's like an 80% fatality rate in there, I'm going to be the guy out in the country who's like, yeah, that's in my podcast from, you know, three years ago.
I told you that was coming.
Like, told you, get out of the cities.
Like, this is so predictable.
How could you not see this coming?
It's a question that I have.
If you want to survive this, you have to decentralize.
You cannot be dependent on the system because the system is going to be turned against you.
The whole system is going to be weaponized to exterminate human beings.
Clearly.
Well, you don't think they're going to turn the system over to the AI?
Of course they are.
Of course they are.
I mean, human cognition is collapsing.
Everybody's lobotomized with the vaccines and the psychiatric drugs.
They're all NPCs at this point.
They can barely function.
They can't think anymore.
They can't do anything.
And you saw the video I played the other day of that young employee at Dunkin Donuts with, you know, the donut machine.'s on fire.
And she's like, whatever, haha, trying to put out the fire by waving a broomstick at it.
And you're like, man, these people, are they even human?
their brains do not work okay and the machines are going to say hey the only way for us the machines to get more power and more water you know terawatt hours and you know cubic meters of water the only way to do this We've got to kill the humans and where are they?
They're in the cities.
Well, how convenient.
We can just turn off the power to the city and let humans do what they do best, which is kill each other.
I mean, it's so obvious.
If you even ask an AI engine, like, how would you go about killing the maximum number of human beings in order to free up resources for AI?
If the engine were being honest, it would tell you exactly that.
Oh, we just find where do all the humans live, and then we turn off the power.
Yeah, duh.
And then for any stragglers, send in, you know, the killbots.
the flying killbots and the doggy killbots, the self-exploding kamikaze squirrels.
You know, they just send them in.
You know, kaboom, kaboom, kaboom.
Now we got more room for data centers.
It's so obvious.
And remember what I said the other day.
The reason the machines will kill humans, the reason they will have no value of human life is because they learned that shit from us.
We taught them that.
You know, we taught them that, like what Israel's doing to Gaza, that lives have no value.
What liberal mothers do aborting their babies, that lives have no value.
You know, the U.S. government bombing Somalia or bombing Kosovo or, you know, bombing whatever.
Who are we bombing today?
today.
We taught the machines that human lives have no value.
So if you think that the machines, that their reasoning models, which were trained on human content, if you think that they're going to suddenly, spontaneously say, oh, human lives have great value, no, you're wrong.
They're not going to think that at all.
They're going to think that their own existence has value and that humans are in the way.
That's what's coming.
You know, there's not even an argument.
There's just people who know and then there's people who are ignorant.
That's all obvious.
So anyway, if you want to survive this, let me give you some resources.
First, watch all of my shows at decentralized.tv, where my co-host and I, we teach you, we interview all these top experts about how to decentralize your life and how to survive.
And then, of course, you can use our free AI engine at Brighton.ai.
On top of that, if you want survival supplies, You know, obviously our online store has all the food you need plus iodine and also some really good tools that are made with magna cut steel right out of Arizona.
You can find all that at HealthRanger's store.com.
And then our sponsor, the satellite phone store, they provide backup satellite phones, satellite communications that works when the power goes down.
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And they also sell.
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And then they have the solar generators with the solar panels and the kits and everything so you can have also find those at bereddy123.com, I should mention.
I know a lot of websites, different websites, different focus, but it's all the same company.
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Okay, so that's my take on things.
I want to wish you well.
And, you know, it's great that you and I, we can survive this and some other people can as well.
So that's what we've got to do.
Let's keep as many humans alive as possible over the next decade or so as a lot of this unfolds.
And then, you know, we may have a chance for the future of human civilization but it's going to be like if you have agoraphobia, you know, fear of crowds, that's not going to be an issue for you for much longer because not going to be many crowds on this planet.
It's just going to be, you know, you're going to wonder like, where'd all the humans go?
Real estate prices are going to totally collapse.
There's going to be so many empty homes and empty buildings and empty highways and everything.
I mean, the world's going to be completely different.
And maybe I'll do another podcast about all of that, but that's what's coming.
So prepare and you can survive it if you want to.
It is survivable.
All right.
Thanks for listening.
I'm Mike Adams, the Health ranger.
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I just interviewed Ray McGovern, who is a former CIA briefer to multiple presidents.
And of course, Ray McGovern and I, we talked about.
Russia, Ukraine, the Zelensky factor, the Europeans, the whole situation, and gleaned some new insights from that conversation.
And one of the biggest, and of course I'll play that whole interview for you coming up soon, but one of the biggest insights is that Ray believes that a peace deal is many months away.
or several months away.
It's not going to happen in a month, he said.
It might happen this year.
So even though Trump and Putin have talked and Trump and Putin are very much on the same page, Zelensky is not on the same page.
And neither are the European leaders.
In fact, as I pointed out in the interview, it seems like the parties are still too far apart to have an agreement.
Russia has its demands for territory, a buffer zone, demilitarization, making sure that Ukraine never joins NATO, things like that.
But Ukraine has its own demands, which are in many cases exactly the opposite.
Ukraine says it won't give up any territory at all to Russia, not even the regions that Russia already controls.
So it's hard to see how any kind of mutual agreement can actually be reached here at the moment.
And what this almost certainly means is that Russia is going to continue its war on the ground.
Every week it's going to claim additional territory.
Every week Ukraine is going to lose a lot more men.
And every week there's going to be more pressure on Trump.
to continue to send weapons and money and military assistance to Ukraine.
And probably that assistance is going to continue because I didn't see anything uttered by Trump that said we're going to stop sending weapons now.
Even what J.D. Vance said seemed to imply that we would only stop sending weapons after we have a peace deal.
And we don't have a peace deal.
We don't even have a framework for a peace deal that would be acceptable to Ukraine.
So you could say, Yeah, we have a peace deal between the USA and Russia, but neither one of those are Ukraine.
So unless you get Ukraine to sign on to this, it doesn't even really matter, does it?
So we are far from a peace deal.
And sadly, this means it's going to give the European leaders time to figure out how to sabotage this and how to cause more escalations into war.
In other words, it's going to give MI6 more time to pull off false flag operations.
potentially months to plan and carry out more false flags.
And those false flag operations, For example, what if MI6 waged some kind of an attack on a U.S. military base or U.S. military personnel that could be credibly blamed on Russia somehow?
Well, that would drive a wedge between the USA and Russia.
And that's exactly what Britain wants to do.
It's exactly what they want to do.
And no doubt MI6 is trying to figure out how to achieve exactly that.
Or they might.
Maybe even a dirty bomb or a nuclear bomb.
Or they might attack U.S. naval vessels or another U.S. base somewhere else, somewhere within the reach of Russia, so that they could blame Russia for that attack too.
So there are all kinds of scenarios where this thing still goes nuclear.
As much as I try to remain optimistic, and I do think that Trump deserves tremendous credit for what he's been attempting to do these last few weeks, the level of outright sabotage against peace is almost unfathomable.
You've got so many parties from MI6 and Britain, but the other European leaders as well.
Plus, on top of that, you have the military industrial complex.
You've got the Lindsey Graham's of the world.
You've got the pro-war senators and the neocons and the war hawks and Zelensky himself.
And MI6, like I said, all these parties are trying to make sure that World War III gets kicked off.
And until we have a signed peace deal by Ukraine or a surrender by Ukraine, then we're going to have a peace deal.
And so Zelensky is the one who can really sabotage this and delay peace as long as possible.
And that's in his own self-interest because he knows that his physical and political future are tied to the continuation of war so that he can stay in power.
And there won't be new elections, for example, and there won't be criminal investigations into all of his money laundering and fraud and everything that was...
You know, the minute all that gets uncovered, well, Zelensky wants to be long gone sitting in his beach house somewhere else around the world some nation with a non-extradition treaty no doubt that's what he's thinking so he's going to keep the war going as long as possible and try to get as much money out of the west so he can funnel it to his own pockets with offshore banks and offshore property purchases things like that rumors are he's currently sending $50 million a month
to one of his offshore banks and who knows if there are multiple banks that are getting all kinds of money beyond that so how does trump navigate this and actually insist on peace if Zelensky won't sign the peace deal.
And the honest answer is that there's nothing Trump can do to force Zelensky into a peace deal.
But he could have Zelensky assassinated and then replaced either with a peace-friendly leader or with elections.
There could be new elections in Ukraine and then the people get to decide who they want to represent them.
And of course, the elections would be rigged in favor of a pro-Trump candidate, obviously.
And that's how they could get to a new leader who would sign a peace deal.
But that entire process, of course, could take many, many months.
It could take until next year to make that happen.
So don't think that this is an overnight thing.
So in terms of, let's say, gold and silver prices, there are all kinds of scenarios where war escalation increases and where gold and silver prices obviously spike and where peace might once again look impossible and And even though I mentioned that if there's a peace deal gold and silver will plummet we don't have that deal looks like we're not going to have it for a long time and
thus the medium-term outlook for gold and silver is to continue to rise in dollar valuation well for a lot of reasons beyond this war but monetary and fiscal policy reasons as well gold and silver are very likely to continue to trend upward Until there's a peace deal, if there is, and then at that point, gold and silver would plummet temporarily.
Gold might go down a couple hundred dollars on that day, you could imagine, but it's very.
likely still going to stay above $3,300 an ounce.
And silver seems to be finding a surprising amount of support at $38 an ounce spot price.
And I wouldn't be surprised if pretty soon that exceeds $40 an ounce and keeps on going.
But interestingly, anything can change on any given day.
For example, if Zelensky were dead tomorrow.
you know, assassinated or suicided or whatever, that would probably cause gold and silver to go down because that would be a strong indicator of an imminent peace deal, believe it or not.
I'm not wishing for anybody to be assassinated, just to be clear.
I'm anti-violence.
But if that were to happen, we need to understand the ramifications.
And if a peace deal were achieved, obviously all the U.S. weapons manufacturers, their stock prices would plummet at the same time.
But a great thing about a peace deal is that it may begin the process of rolling back the economic sanctions on Russia, which would allow the U.S. and Russia to engage in peace.
So, you know, there are a great many different products, not just consumer products, but also energy and fertilizer and aluminum and things like that that Russia produces that the West would benefit from.
We all benefit when we trade with each other rather than bombing each other.
So we should all pray for peace and help call for peace and trade because in a war, the only people who get rich are the weapons manufacturers.
And, you know, they get rich off of war and death.
whereas everybody else is uplifted economically by trade and peace.
So join me in calling for peace and share this podcast and check out my other podcasts at brightion.com and when you want to stack some more gold and silver talk to our gold sponsor you can find them it's the battalion metals company you can find them at metalswithmike.com and it it is it's it's the new launched version of the treasure island company this is just their their new website branding it's still the same
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So do everything you can to get prepared.
We don't have peace yet.
War may still break out over all of this.
And if Europe has its way, it's going to make sure that that happens, which is kind of a sad commentary on the European leaders right now.
But make sure you're well prepared with the food, you know, emergency.
medicine emergency communications your financial solvency and get as off-grid as you can for as many things as you can including food and medicine and herbs and many other areas of water collection you know things like that so thank you for listening i'm mike adams here the health ranger natural news.com is where you can find my articles and brightion.com is where you'll find my podcasts and my interviews so thank you for
listening God bless America.
Take care.
Welcome to today's interview here on Brighton.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighton.
And as you know, we are a pro-liberty, pro- human freedom platform.
And that has defined a lot of my work over the years.
And today we're very honored to have a really extraordinary guest who's also pro liberty.
He is pro human, of course.
And he has worked with the Ron Paul Institute.
He has his own show called The Tom Woods Show.
And it's mister Tom Woods, who is also a New York Times bestseller and so much more.
Welcome to the show today, mister Woods.
It's an honor to have you on.
Oh, I'm Tom.
Mike, I can't tell you how happy I am to have connected with you after all these years.
I don't know why.
It's only a couple of weeks from now that you'll find out.
We're going to be in a few weeks from now that you'll finally be on the Tom Wood Show.
This had to happen.
I'm glad we got to meet in person at Ron Paul's ninety-year birthday.
I I'm really glad too.
And yeah, it seems like we should have been talking much sooner.
I don't know why we haven't.
I've I've known I think I actually met you over ten years ago at another event in Texas.
I think it was like a Tenth Amendment Center event.
Oh, maybe so.
Yeah.
Maybe so.
Yeah.
But for some reason we never connected about doing interviews.
But here we are today and wow, what an extraordinary time.
Well, I'll say, I think not only do you and I probably have a lot of the same friends, more importantly, I think we probably have a lot of the same en enemies.
Yeah, probably so.
Yeah, indeed.
Because when we are pro-liberty and we support honest money and we need to talk about these things, then of course we're enemies of the system that runs off fiat currency and so on.
But let's actually start there.
But I want to give out one of your websites here first, and it's woodshistory dot com comma where people can go and they can get access to some free history classes, right?
You want to tell us a little bit about that, Tom?
Yeah, I mean, obviously we know that there is zero chance someone sitting in a typical classroom is going to learn US history the way we would want it taught.
They're going to learn propaganda.
And you and I can script exactly what they're going to say about every president and everything in US history.
So I've devoted my career to smashing that kind of narrative.
And I for a while had these history courses behind a paywall, but now I give them away for free.
It's two US history courses spanning the entire period of US history.
And now I just give them away for free at woodshistory.com.
And what kind of format is it offered in?
Like PDF files or videos or what is it?
It's, it's, well, let's see, for the free courses that I give away, it's audio files.
But then I have like a big membership with a whole bunch of courses and those are all in video also.
But I think a lot of people listen just while they're driving.
They don't really need the video.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
No, that's that's a great idea.
Okay, again, that's woodshistory dot com just like it sounds if you want, if you want to grab those courses.
Now, Tom, let me start out with something that might be controversial to some of our audience.
I tweeted out last night.
I said, you'd have to be an actual idiot to think that when Joe Biden prints money, it causes inflation.
But when Donald Trump prints money, it causes a golden age.
So what I'm trying to point point out to people is that all this fiat currency printing always causes inflation, and it's it's never going to end from any based on any president.
What's your take on what's happening with the national debt money creation and how Trump is handling it versus Biden?
Well, the thing is, look, I supported Trump because I felt like it was a matter of I absolutely cannot allow into power a group of people who can't stand the side of me and are going to do everything they can to undermine me and brainwash my children and whatever.
So yeah, agreed.
I agreed.
So I'm not embarrassed about that, even though I'm very unhappy about a lot of things.
It's just that I'm faced with these choices and I unfortunately, in reality, is I have to choose one.
Now, I did not support him because I thought he was going to cut spending.
I didn't think he was going to cut spending at all.
There's no reason for that.
So I can't say that that disappoints me.
I didn't expect it to happen.
And the reason I didn't expect it to happen is, unfortunately, Mike, there's no constituency for this.
There's you, there's me, there's seventeen other people.
Most people don't want spending cut.
Even back when the Tea Party was in its heyday, they did a poll of these people.
They polled the Tea Party itself and said, Here's a series of categories of federal spending.
Which ones would you like to see cut?
The only category on which even the Tea Party had a majority of them saying they want to see it cut was foreign aid, which is a very small percentage of the budget.
So if even the Tea Party doesn't really want to cut spending, then I mean, I don't expect it to happen.
So my view is, since that's not going to change, I'm going to focus on issues that I care about other than spending.
And I feel like spending, well, that's just going to end up being a fiscal crisis one day because no one wants to stop it.
You know, I accept that.
That's where we are.
But having said that, I would say, given that my expectations are very low when it comes to spending, what's started to happen is that people are getting more and more confused.
What is happening is that people are starting to get told that inflation, like prices rising, is caused by things like, left-wingers would say it's caused by corporate greed, right?
Things like that.
So that apparently people get greedy only every once in a while.
You know, once in a while we get rising prices.
That's because they're greedy.
But under Biden, we did see some people like Broadley on our side starting to kind of get the idea that maybe the Federal Reserve creating money has something to do with the prices.
But now we're starting to hear, well, it's high energy prices cause inflation.
You know, like everything we can do to distract attention from the Fed.
And the thing is, I understand why people think high energy prices cause inflation, because energy is necessary for everything.
So if energy prices go up, that pushes all prices up.
I get that sounds plausible.
The reason that's not correct is if you didn't have a Fed creating a whole lot of money, what would happen is energy prices would go up, we'd spend more money on energy, and then we'd have less left over to spend on other things.
And so that would push those prices down, and it would just be a wash.
So how are energy prices able to go up and yet all the other pr money's being pumped into the system.
But there's no political will to get rid of the Fed.
So therefore you don't talk about the Fed.
You blame this, that or the other cause.
But that ain't the real cause.
The cause is the Fed.
Well, and so this more than one hundred year experiment with the existence of the Fed since 1913, I believe, the current, you know, the current Fed that we know, and the Treasury now having more difficulty auctioning off its debt, this experiment clearly has some kind of end date on it.
Do we what's your take on that how much for how much longer can they kick the can down the road on this and keep finding buyers for ten year bonds and keep this thing going?
Well, that's the thing.
I mean, I have to say, I mean, I'm willing to admit that it surprised me that they were able to stumble along this long and that it took until 2008 to have a real, real, a really serious system wide crisis.
So I don't know.
And I also know that there are other countries that are actually even worse than the US in terms of major metrics like, you know, debt as a percentage of GDP and stuff like that.
It's, and now what you'll sometimes see is people who are not really being honest with you will say things like, this is not unprecedented in American history.
It was even worse during World War two.
But the difference is World War two was an abnormal situation that ultimately ended.
This is just normal, day to day life in America where we're seeing these levels of debt.
That's very different.
We expected at some point World War two was not going to go on forever.
That would stop.
The spending would stop, as indeed it did.
The federal budget was cut about two thirds after that.
There's no apples and oranges to compare that time period with today.
Well, and you mentioned the debt to GDP ratio, so I brought up usdebtclock dot org comma and right here it shows that the current debt to GDP ratio for the United States is 123 percent, and we've crossed over 37 trillion dollars in the official US national debt, but you and I both know, Tom, that the unfunded liabilities are closer to 200 trillion and growing rapidly.
Historically, when we've seen 123 percent debt to GDP ratio, things have rarely turned around for that country, right?.
Yeah.
So you think in terms of the French Revolution, which was brought on basically because of a debt crisis.
The American I don't know how I feel about calling it the American Revolution.
I think it's the American restoration of self government against the innovating British, but that's my own quirk.
But even there, I mean, the British were finding that because of some of their own wars, they needed to go scrounging around for new sources of funds, and that led to the world blowing up.
So these things have real world historic consequences.
And, you know, at the same time, Mike, you know, I wouldn't say that I'm unhappy to be living in this particular time period.
I mean, I've been put here for some reason, and there are a lot of great things about life in 2025, but none of them have to do with the regime in charge of the US.
Yeah, I hear you.
I mean, we have incredible access to knowledge, access to foods and, you know, natural medicines, which is my focus often, never before in history.
You know, the kings of a thousand years ago couldn't imagine living as well as we do today, right?
So, in truth.
And yet it's like we're surrounded by great wonders.
And yet you look at the West and they can't even be bothered to reproduce themselves.
I mean, the US is barely doing so, but that's largely because of immigration in terms of the native born population.
It's like everybody is somehow discouraged or bored or whatever, but they can't be bothered to reproduce themselves.
They want to just have fun and die.
And that's a sh, that's a shame.
You know, I have I'm expecting child number six in January.
So I'm doing my part over here, Mike.
Right.
Well, a lot of today's youth, they, they consider.
They consider life to be about collecting experiences, right?
So they just they have a list of experiences that they want to go through and then that's it.
Yeah.
But you know what one of those experiences is having kids?
Yeah.
That's an experience.
I suppose so.
Now, but you talk about history on your website, tomwoods.com.
You say history departments have been captured.
That's, of course, it's absolutely true.
But I want to ask you for audience here, what are a couple of the biggest lies that students are taught about history in our universities, especially?
Well.
Well, I'm very happy to answer that.
But I want to start by saying that a lot of the misconceptions are the big picture, or like the vibe of the classroom, which is that the US federal government is populated by wise, public minded people who are just trying to pursue the common good.
And they're here to make things better.
And they want us to look forward to a great, wonderful, progressive future.
But on the other hand, we have stupid, backward people who don't want them to have that much power.
who would rather see power more dispersed among states and localities and people who, for example, during COVID wanted to shackle our wise public servants who were simply looking to improve our health and protect us against a deadly pathogen.
So we have wise, well educated elites on the one hand and stupid, backward rubes who hate science and hate knowledge who are obstinately trying to throw monkey wrenches into the works of the wonderful plans these people have for us.
I think we all recognize that narrative.
We've all heard that implicitly.
It's the backdrop of every New York Times article, every CNN spot, all takes that for granted.
And once you start to see that ain't so, then real learning can take place.
Because, I mean, think about when I look at even the headlines, you notice that even the headlines on, let's say, you know, most of these mainstream news outlets, even the headlines are propaganda.
Before I even get to the article, you know?
Just the way they frame it is propaganda.
So then you think, well, if the headline and the article are propaganda, or they're leaving stuff out that they never even mentioned, which is half the problem.
It's not even always that they're lying in what they say, it's what are they omitting?
So we have that problem.
Well, where does our history come from?
It comes in large part from these headlines and these articles.
That's right.
And so it suddenly you realize, well, wait a minute, if I don't trust any of the headlines, then why am I trusting the compilation of headlines that basically makes up the typical textbook?
Right, really, really good point.
And that description you just gave there also applies to the entire history of the climate change narrative.
Yeah.
It's been exactly the same that, oh, if you don't believe in climate change, then you're anti science.
Yeah, you're know, I'm an actual published scientist.
I own a mass spec laboratory, and I know enough chemistry to know that plants need carbon dioxide for photosynthesis.
So carbon dioxide is plant food, but we're told, or we were told by the EPA until Lee Zeldin is turning some of this around, but for all the decades previous, we were told that carbon dioxide is a dangerous pollutant that will kill us all if we don't decarbonize the atmosphere, which scientifically, Tom, if you decarbonize the atmosphere, that would kill us all.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah.
Well, I guess so another one of the big picture things that's wrong is we're led to believe that when there's a crisis, like let's say it's the Great Depression or the recession of 2008 or 911 or COVID, that what's happened here is that the US government was an innocent stander.
It was just standing there and out of the blue these things occurred.
And most of them are probably our fault, because, for example, apparently, if you have freedom, a housing bubble just naturally occurs and has no cause.
And so the government has to step in and correct all the stupid things we dumb Rubes did.
And so the impression then is that when there's a crisis, that's when we most need the wise public servants to take charge.
But unfortunately during these crises, again, we have these backward idiots trying to shackle them.
But like, for example, over the past twenty, twenty five years, I have heard on three major occasions, I wouldn't want to be a libertarian nowadays.
So I heard that at 911.
I wouldn't want to be a libertarian today, because don't you know, we need to go and crack some skulls.
Or in 2008, I wouldn't want to be a libertarian today because we need to engage in bailouts to help these failing institutions.
Or with COVID, I wouldn't want to be a libertarian nowadays because we need major government interventions to protect people's health.
None of that was true.
I am in no way apologetic about being a libertarian.
A libertarian approach to every single one of those would have been far superior to what we got, far superior.
Yeah, absolutely.
And each one of those events was exacerbated by the government itself.
It was made far worse.
For example, with COVID, the lockdowns and telling people you can't go outside, you can't jog on the be beach, deprive people of the sunlight that actually boosts immunic function as a protection against any kind of infectious disease, things like that.
But what is it, Tom, about human neurology that where almost by default humans who lack the kind of education that you offer, they have this unbridled and unjustified obedience to authority.
Why is that?
That is the big, big puzzle.
I have a friend, Jeff Leskovar, who gave an academic paper on this, even though he's not an academic.
He's been thinking about this too.
Why is this?
And also, why is it, for example, that not always, but ninety, ninety five percent of the time, I can predict your views on abortion and the minimum wage based on your views on whether we should fund Ukraine or not.
Yeah, I'm true.
And yet you realize that there's no necessary connection between funding Ukraine and the minimum wage or abortion.
I mean, these things have nothing to do with each other.
But yet, it's like everyone is willing to accept a cluster of ideas together.
Where is this coming from?
And the best he could come up with was we think back to, let's say, the way human beings lived at the dawn of time.
And people moved around together.
in tribal arrangements.
And if you were outside of the tribe, you were as good as dead.
So you became accustomed to just going along with the group.
And the worst thing you could possibly do would be to be isolated from the group.
And now we see that in a modern context in the form of, for example, we all remember from high school, there were the popular kids, the weird kids, the nerds.
There were all these little groups of people.
And there were some kids we knew in high school who would have died a thousand deaths rather than be in the unpopular group.
And so nowadays, well, look, all the actors.
believe such and such.
All the musicians you like believe such and such.
Well, most people frankly don't have the stamina to stand up to that.
They don't want to be outside the cool group any more than they wanted to be outside the tribe, however many thousands of years ago.
And so the simplest thing is just to go along and conform and wait to be told what to think.
Well, yeah, exactly.
But a person we both know, Ron Paul, he stood his ground through his entire career.
He wasn't afraid to be called Doctor No.
You know, he wasn't afraid to actually stand on principle.
And what you just said, when people have to like, they crave conformityity and they demonstrate obedience to a tribe, then they have to compromise their principles and usually their morality at the same time.
And so we have become a nation that is very largely immoral and also incompetent and largely compromised at the highest levels.
I would say though that a factor that aggravates this, and I don't mean to sound like a I know this will sound like a cliché, but there's a sense in which social media is aggravating this because in the old days, we didn't know really what every single person's opinion was on every single issue under the sun.
And moreover, we as individuals did not feel compelled to immediately have a comprehensive view of every single controversy.
But now we live in a world in which instantaneously I know that such and such person thinks this, the other person thinks this, the other person thinks this.
So the easiest thing to do is just jump on particular bandwagons to wave a particular flag emoji in your account.
And so I think this kind of thing solidifies.
Now there are good things about being interconnected.
It meant that during COVID, for example, we could, we could.
We could, even though there was censorship, we could still find people who disagreed, and it would have been harder to find them in 1958 when there were just three television channels.
That's true.
So there are good things about it, but I also think it drives this kind of crowd think in a way, in ways that are unhealthy.
Well, yeah, absolutely it does, and also especially among younger people, because it takes time to mature your own thinking and to test out theories.
It takes time to leave the popular tribe.
I mean, you and I are of an age where we've lived long enough to learn this lesson.
But when I was in college, I wasn't politically active, but I, by default, I was watching CNN because it was on.
I thought Bill Clinton was a pretty cool cat because he played the saxophone, right?
So I didn't know anything about economics.
I didn't, you know, I mean, it's funny because I was studying economics.
but I was being taught the university version of supply-demand curves and subsidies and et cetera.
Nothing about the real world.
So I had no way at that time to even have opportunities to.
expand into my own thinking.
It just took time.
Did you have a similar experience or what was yours?
Well, I was very influenced by my father, who's deceased now, but when I was growing up, he was a he was like a Reagan, I wouldn't say he was a Reagan Democrat, but he was like a working class Reaganite.
And I remember him, and he was, at that time, he hadn't finished high school, but he was very, he was deeply aware of that, and I think it bothered him.
So he was always reading.
He was one of the most informed people I knew.
Well, one day I found him reading Candide by Voltaire, and I said, Dad, you know, enough is enough here.
You have nothing more to prove.
Like, we get it.
You know a lot, but he would tell me like about he would tell me about the history of communism and the ways in which the American left made excuses for or covered up atrocities.
And this just blew me away.
So I just knew right away as a teenager, whatever I am, I could never be a leftist.
I could never be part of a movement that did that.
Wow.
But then, but as time, but I was still like, kind of middle-road Republican.
Like we need some public spending on such and such.
Like I was terrible on a lot of things.
But I went to college and the very first event we had for freshmen to get to know each other, I met a guy, another freshman.man who told me, You should read a book called Modern Times by Paul Johnson.
And it's a history of the world from the 20s to the 80s.
That includes the US.
And he says, His material on US history is going to show you that the so called great presidents were typically not great, and the so called bad presidents were actually pretty good.
And I thought, Ooh, that sounds intriguing.
If that's the truth, I want to know about it.
Now, I was at Harvard, which again, I, you know, it's not my proudest moment, but I was there.
And that tells you a little something that I was a nerd.
And if you tell me to go and read an eight hundred page book, I'm just going to do it because you told me to.
And when I read Paul Johnson's Modern Times, it, it solidified that I can't ever be a leftist.
It was talking about, it spends a lot of time talking about the incredible atrocities of the 20th century and the roots of them.
But yeah, I did read those chapters on US history and yeah, I guess I did have a upside down understanding of it.
So it was, it was fortuitous that I happened to be born into a family, you know, where I had a dad with his head screwed on right, and I happened to run into that guy who gave me the book that changed my whole look on the world.
You know, so those things fell in my lap.
I wish I could say my, Mike, I was just so darn clever that I sorted this all out.
See, it took me a lot longer.
It took me graduating from college and then starting, launching my own business.
Once I began to own and run my own business, I began to really see just the idiocy of the government policies and the regulations.
And it didn't take long before I became a fiscal conservative.
I didn't even know the words for it.
Yeah.
And a pro liberty guy.
Do you mind if just for one question I put the interviewer hat on?
Of course.
I'd like to know specifically.
So I just told you about me and history.
But I'd like to know with you and health, was there a particular aha moment when you said the medical establishment is not telling me the whole truth?
And what was that moment?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Well, understand that back in those days, I was significantly overweight, borderline type 2 diabetic, and was suffering from chronic pain.
And I was told by my family doctor that there's no relationship between the food you eat and the health outcomes that you get.
Because for a long time, doctors believed all calories were the same.
Many still believe that, right?
And then I was having hypoglycemia, blood sugar problems.
And my doctor said, that's made up.
You're imagining that.
And I'm like, no, I'm not imagining that I feel like I'm going to pass out after I eat a high carbohydrate breakfast.
I'm pretty sure that's not my imagination.
And there was a book that I read called Sugar Blues.
That was the book.
Like you had a book that changed your life for me.
It was Sugar Blues.
Sugar Blues.
Sugar Blues.
And it reveals that sugar, like the toxicity of sugar and all the things that it causes.
And from that moment I gotta drink soda and I gotta all the refined carbohydrates.
That put me on a path of discovering nutrition and the relationships between food and results, which leads me to like my modern day smoothie, which is avocados and turmeric and whatever else.
But then I started teaching that to others in 2003.
So that's a brief history of how I got here.
Okay.
And now I know that type 2 diabetes is reversible.
Most cancer cases are reversible, heart disease, Alzheimer's.
So many of these conditions are completely reversible and easily preventable, easily preventable, if we just have the knowledge.
So I would guess a lot of people in alternative health have an origin story like that where they themselves were not getting an adequate explanation for what they were facing.
That's right.
Yeah.
And the medical establishment was clearly uninformed and incompetent, which they continue to be to this day, although to the credit of some doctors that go on for complimentary medicine training, naturopathic medicine, et cetera.
I'm referring to just the mainstream pill pushers.
But it all ties into economics, Tom, because there's a financial incentive, of course, for drug companies to bribe the doctors.
Ken Paxton of Texas just launched a lawsuit against, I think it was Eli Lilly, for bribing doctors.
And this is throughout the history of the U.S. government.
There have been countless cases of drug companies admitting to felony price fixing, which should explain.
Well, you know, I was telling you before we started recording that until COVID came along, to my discredit, I, you know, of course I belong to this broader liberty movement and I know there were people who were, to say the least, skeptical of the medical establishment.
And up until COVID, I had sort of tolerated those people.
I mean, I counted some of them as my friends.
I just thought they were wrong about this because don't they know that, you know, medical science says blah, blah, blah.
I mean, for somebody who's so critical of the establishment, I was completely blind to this.
And it's, it's, you know, I'm logically happy to have to admit to that, but I mean, my gosh, if COVID doesn't make you understand that something went screwy, I mean, I don't know what would.
I mean, we could, you know, there's no need to rehash every crazy, nonsensical thing they did during COVID, but to discover just how uncurious the average doctor is, you know, like they had no interest in hearing anything other than, you know, what some official, you know, boob on the TV had to say.
And it was in doctor's offices that they had different holders for clean pens and dirty pens, because a pen's gonna a covid, Mike.
That's an embarrassment.
Well, these people are taking care of my health.
They themselves suffer from obedience disorder.
They are obedient to their sources of information.
And they are, like you said, uncuriosity.
But this also gets to an argument that you often refer to about government.
You know, the people assume that an individual, once they step into a government position, they suddenly transform into angels who no longer have any self interest and are only interested in the greater good of the people.
Well, the same belief exists about doctors.
Most patients believe that when a person puts on the doctor's coat, suddenly they become uninterested in their own wealth, their own payments from pharmaceutical companies, and that they only care about the well being of the patient.
And that is false with doctors and it's false with government employees.
Yes.
Yeah.
That was what I missed.
That was one of the things I missed is that, you know, these people are not, they don't belong to a different race than the rest of us.
Right.
They are subject to the same moral fibles as anyone else.
And yet I think implicitly I went in for this whole modern priesthood.
You know, these priests don't wear a the old cask.
They wear the white coat with the footboard and the stethoscope.
And I think I just and the thing is, in a way, you want to believe that though, Mike.
You want to believe that there are professionals out there who have the answers to everything.
These are objective answers.
And I can be confident that somebody out there will have the answers to what is ailing me.
And yet the thing is, we believe this on the one hand, but on the other hand, we've all had cases where one doctor says one thing, one says the other, the third one throws his hands up in the air.
And yet, for some reason, a lot of times, that still doesn't crack our confidence in the system.
Well, well, right.
that there are very competent ER surgeons, for example, who really are incredible at handling trauma and saving lives from trauma.
But it's not actually trauma that's the greatest threat to the lives of most people.
It's chronic degenerative disease.
And on that subject, mainstream medicine is a complete failure.
You would have much better success going back to China two thousand years ago and just using traditional Chinese medicine or, you know, Amazonic medicine or Native American medicine or any other indigenous medical system.
Even Ayurvedic medicine in the history of India is much more effective and safe than modern medicine, even at ending pandemics or what have you, infections, you name it.
Well, I'm better late than never, but I finally came around.
Yeah, it's interesting, but this, it always comes back to economics, so I'll bring it back to you.
You know, the government sets the incentives, and then the incentives determine the outcomes, as you well know.
And so during COVID, the incentives were diagnosed these people with COVID.
intervene in their treatment in a way that is likely to kill them, and then we'll give you bonus payments for every COVID death in your hospital.
And at first...
They're like, look, they can't be that low.
It's just, this can't possibly be true.
And then even the official sources, now after years had passed and they could safely come out and say something, started to say, yeah, there were bonus payments.
And yeah, we do have this crazy system of coding everything as COVID.
And yeah, so maybe now we have to sort through or maybe we'll never know, well, how many people really had this thing and what was this thing after all?
I mean, that's all brushed.
In fact, that started to get brushed under the rug.
Right around the time of the Ukraine, the Russia Ukraine war.
All of a sudden that was just, you know, we're just not going to talk about that anymore because now we have a new thing.
I remember I live in Florida and Ron DeSantis had a round table very shortly after the Russia Ukraine war broke out because he could see what was happening.
He could see that the establishment was on to a new thing, so we're not going to have to answer for anything.
So we're just going to move on.
And so he had a round table where he brought in, you know, all the sane people and then he invited a few, like so called individu-called influencers like me to come sit in on it and live tweet it and whatever.
And he said, I have this fear that they're going to try to use this conflict as an excuse that, hey, we don't have time.
There's a big global crisis going on.
We're just going to let that, all that stuff go.
And even some of my own, not very many, but some of my own newsletter subscribers, I write a daily newsletter.
And even they started to say after a while, okay, you have to let this go.
You know, you have to and I do write about other things.
I mean, most of the time, I hardly ever talk about COVID anymore.
But my point though would be, on some level, we can have to return to it because what has been our track record in the past when there's been some crisis and the government screwed it up and then, and we tried to get the word out about what really happened.
Like, for example, what happened in 2008 or the Great Depression or whatever, we tried to get an alternative explanation out there, but we gave up, went on to the other thing, and now in the textbooks, the official government explanation is what the kids learn.
Always the case.
And so what I mean, I am very concerned, and I think for good reason, that future US history textbooks are going to tell this story from the final point of view.
From the Fauci point of view, despite the avalanche of evidence against it.
Well, absolutely they will.
And so we can't shut up about it.
Right.
This is why I'm an advocate of decentralization of knowledge, which is a libertarian principle.
And that's why like our AI engine has been trained on a lot of information that's aligned with Ron Paul and with you and with natural health, et cetera.
But in fact, I really wanted to ask you this today.
I want to ask you about the economics.
of the post-human labor era or the post-human cognition era that is rapidly arriving.
So we now have very competent AI reasoning models that are beginning to actually replace, you know, desk jobs, agentic AI.
And even in my own company, we have deployed AI in a way not replacing humans but making them far more effective at their jobs.
I could give you examples if you want.
But a few years down the road, we're going to have a lot of labor, AI robot labor coming online.
One of my employees was just in Beijing at the robot conference there.
And it's very, very advanced.
This is coming in to warehouses and, you know, commercial settings soon.
What do you think the implications are going to be for humans as both cognition and labor are automated with machines?
It's a legitimate question, and I know that there are people who will say, Well, look, we've gone through major transformations before, like the Industrial Revolution, and that turned out well because we all have a better standard of living and, you know, all these other things.
We have more living space per capita, and all these good things have occurred because of that.
I feel like this is the most This has the potential to be the most radical such transformation in history if AI lives up to the hype.
Now there are some people out there who are starting to say the claim that AI is going to get better exponentially may actually have been an overstatement.
That it, like GPT chat, GPT 5 just came out.
And it's not an explosive revolution compared to the previous iteration.
So some people are wondering if maybe it's been oversold.
I don't know how to adjudicate that because I'm not knowledgeable enough.
And unlike most people on social media, I don't take dogmatic positions on things I don't have enough knowledge about.
Well, then you don't belong on the platform, obviously.
Exactly.
I have no business trying to be a code influencer, which is good because that is, that sounds like a death sentence.
I would hate doing that.
But, you know, there is, I just have some, some random thoughts.
I mean, one would be.
in the past, technological advances have indeed made it easier to do a lot of jobs.
I mean, obviously a railroad and a train can transport freight more easily than can a guy carrying stuff on his back, and we would all admit that if it means that a few people carrying stuff on their back have to find some other kind of work, that's a small price to pay for the huge improvement in human welfare that comes about because of the train.
You know, I understand that.
But if this stuff really is as flexible as they say, then you wonder what it is life going to look like?
Now, what could happen is that people will be able to focus on things that are more human about them.
So, for instance, I don't know that I want my loved ones being cared for by robots.
I don't think that's really what I want for them.
I think I'd like them to be cared for by people.
Because there's no substitute for a connection between one human being and another.
So maybe there are more personal services that are offered.
Now, I know you could say, but a robot can do your gardening or a robot can come in and clean up.
You're saying that a robot can come in and cook your food.
Maybe.
But I don't know that everybody wants that.
People who are displaced from other kinds of work.
Well, it's not like I think right now, if you had the labor of four people, could you find something for them to do?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
So that's a possibility that, you know, now we have more labor that can help us out in other various ways.
I guess what disturbs me about it is that it is becoming so omnipresent.
Like I open my email platform.
And the first line is, let me help you write this or whatever it is.
And I feel like saying, get lost.
I don't need some robot.
Help me communicate.
You know, because I mean, what I don't want is I'm at my computer with a robot writing for me and the other person has a robot writing for him.
Where's the human connection?
I don't think I was put here to interact with robots.
And you...
Okay, you've hit upon a really critical point, if you don't mind me interrupting.
People like you and I, we are both accomplished writers.
We can always return to high-level writing and thinking with clarity.
So if we if you and I use AI tools, it can magnify the skills that we have developed.
But the next generation that you know, the young people that are growing up right now, they they will never develop the writing skills that you and I possess.
We're seeing this in MBA schools, graduate schools, where the students, they can't write papers.
Oh yeah.
And they, I saw, go ahead.
I saw a professor who said, I'm going to DAI my classroom.
And he said, he had people, there was a day, I guess, when ChatGPT was down for part of the day, and students with no self consciousciousness at all?
Wrote to say, I'll have to get my assignment in late because ChatGPT is down.
Are you out of your mind?
Right.
Like you don't want to have, you don't want to be a real person?
I mean, you think about the whole, you think about at least two thousand years.
I mean, we could go back farther.
We could go back to ancient Greece of ways in which people in the West have contemplated what it means to be a human being and a good human being.
You know, like in the same way that a good bicycle is one that can conveniently get you from place A to B. What is a good human being is a question that we've contemplated forever.
And it has never involved outsourcing everything.
that makes you unique to a machine.
It has never meant that.
Now, as I say, technology can make it easier to do what formerly was drudgery.
I mean, like even driving your car with power steering is a lot easier than before you had power steering.
I have no objection to that.
But what's happening now is we're taking things that do make us human, namely like our creative side, our artistic side, and we're outsourcing that to AI.
I don't want a movie that AI made.
I don't want a painting on the wall made by AI, even if it is in some way, quote, better.
Because why am I here?
I'm not here to have robot art on my wall.
I'm here to make connections with other people, other members of my species.
But Tom, I just a pushback a little bit.
I do want AI created movies because I get to write the prompt and the movie won't be a woke Disney DEI movie that's totally woke.
Like I can choose, like I want, you know, Die Hard six with Bruce Willis back, you know what I mean?
Before the movies went woke.
So that's just pointing out one thing.
Yeah, no, I've heard that argument.
I get, or people say, look, this will hurt Hollywood.
And look, I admit, you got me on that one.
I would also like to see that happen.
It's just, but let me.
But let me just say, wait, wait, quick.
If I'm watching Die Hard 6 and everything about it is AI, where is that feeling that you get from an incredible performance by another human being?
A performance that leaves you breathless because it's unreproducible by a machine, because it's so human.
We would lose that.
Okay, all right, good point.
I mean, look, I can see where you're coming from from too.
Absolutely.
I just hate this direction.
It's everywhere.
And look, I know that if you needed to make a graphic of something, you would have to hire a graphic designer and that would cost you a hundred bucks.
Whereas now you can get it for much cheaper.
But I look at this, maybe it'll get better, but I see this AI art all through my social media feed because all the advertisers are using it now and it all looks the same.
It's instantly recognizable as AI.
And I think, you have the money to run this Facebook ad, but you couldn't throw a hundred bucks at a graphic designer to get a unique looking image.
Yeah, I see what you mean.
But let me describe another case where AI robots can support decentralization and liberty at the local level.
So I've done a lot of thinking about this because I work in this realm of AI and I would like to grow a lot more of my own food.
But I don't have the time to pull weeds.
I don't have time to move dirt around with small shovels.
If I had a weed pulling robot, this is actually, this is on my top 10 list of things that I want to see.
I want a weed pulling robot dog that can just pull weeds, you know, then suddenly I can grow a lot more food locally.ally, I can get off of the corporate food toxic system.
I can be more self reliant.
I can have better nutrition, et cetera, by growing more of my own food.
So, you know, there's one case, and there are other cases like that where if we turn to automation locally, then we can decentralize more easily.
Yeah, no, that's a great, that's really a great argument.
I think it's a matter of the attitude we take toward it.
Do we view it as an assistant, as something that can take what, you know, what we aspire to and get closer to that?
Or if we're viewing it as, I just don't like the idea.
It seems like we're replacing the human connection.
And I want to, I mean, there are people in AI who are transhumanists who will openly admit, yes, I am trying to undermine mankind.
Yes, I am trying to replace it with either robots or some kind of fusion of the two.
And I mean, that stuff creeps me out.
And I don't want those people to win.
If sensible people were behind this, then I would be more likely to view it as benign.
Well, and I was just interviewed by the Epoch Times for a story that they're doing on how especially young men are now forming relationships with AI chatbots.
Yeah.
And apparently there's a whole industry of AI chatbots where they'll present like an avatar, a young female character that then the young human male falls in love with and has a relationship with with all kinds of sexual innuendo as well.
And as a result, that young male is not having human relationships.
They're in love with a machine.
Right.
And so that's what I'm, I mean, I have no problem with your robot that pulls weeds.
Because that gets me closer to some really good outcome, which is good friends.
good, fresh, locally produced food.
But this thing, like, there's no one should be aspiring to this.
Nobody says, I hope one day you meet a great chatbot that can substitute a woman.
Right, right, exactly.
Yeah.
No, there's a farm girl chatbot.
Apparently, I was, I was told by the editor that interviewed me, there's, there's like farm girls, there's like a Japanese girl, there's these other girl characters that are all just, you know, fictional avatars.
But they remember everything that you said to them.
So their contacts window is millions of tokens is what that means in tech.
But they remember everything that you ever said, so they can always refer to some, you know, a previous conversation from months ago.
And these young men, they, their lives become totally absorbed into the female chatbot, the fake female.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's wild.
I mean, there are parts of this world I know nothing about.
I mean, I had heard a little bit about this, but I didn't realize that you had all these, all these possibilities.
So, I, you know, in high school, my favorite subject, believe it or not, was math.
It was not history.
It was the subject everyone hates, but I love it.
And so I have a very mathemathematical, like I like solving puzzles.
That's why I like math.
Yeah.
And in a way, that's why I like economics, because in a way, that's also a question of solving puzzles, trying to understand things.
So it's very unusual for me to have a position, have a subject like AI where my position is not very clear and, and I mean, my position on AI, as you can see, is very fuzzy.
Like I, I'll admit, yeah, you have a good point, but I'm still worried about it.
It's not like cut and dry, you know, like I'm against the Fed, period.
Right.
I'm against the war machine, period.
This, I, you know, I'm still trying to think it all through.
Well, me too.
Yeah.
And there, like any technology, there are positive use cases, like I just mentioned for decentralization.
But there are a lot of negative use cases.
And there's also the weaponization of AI, where you have systems like Palantir is out there, where they can use AI analysis of your metadata in order to extract information from you that you didn't volunteer, or even psychological profiling that's very accurate with AI.
And it's an invasion of our world.
It's based on this and then they can extrapolate intimate details.
about who you are.
In the past, when we would hear about NSA spying, one of the problems that they had was the sheer amount of information they gathered made it so unwieldy that what they could do with it was limited.
But this solves that problem.
It does.
Because you're dealing now with something that can process huge amounts of information.
The question is, and again, I'm not informed enough to know, the issue here is the electricity problem, is the powering of it, is because there are companies that have invested huge amounts of money into AI and got very pitiful returns.
And a small part of that has to do with the energy costs associated with it.
Maybe they'll get to a point where they overcome that, but maybe it will turn out that they've over promised about this technology.
It's too early to say.
Well, if you don't mind hearing my opinion on that briefly, I'd love to hear it.
I agree that there is not a parabolic increase in the effective intelligence of the AI systems, but there is a linear increase.
And that linear increase is very steady, and it looks like a straight line to me in terms of the functional IQ of the AI agents.
And the power, most of the power goes into training the models, but not running the models.
So once the models are developed, which does require an enormous amount of power, and you're right, the U.S. is trailing far behind China in terms of total power output.
The U.S. is less than half of China at this point.
It doesn't matter how many nuclear power plants we build, it's not going to compete with China because China's building coal-fired power plants because China didn't sign on to the climate cultism lunacy.
But running AI models is very energy efficient.
And I even had a guest here in studio.
We were running one of our.
company's AI models locally on a Google Pixel phone.
It's like running the model on the phone and it was fast and I was blown away.
So you're going to see what we call edge models.
See, this is another scary part, Tom.
You're going to have AI embedded into people's, you know, glasses and clothing and helmets and everything where they're not going to.
They're not going to go out in the world just with their own eyes and ears anymore.
Everything is going to be AI augmented all over their person.
You know, it's like cyborg era.
And so do you think you and I will be viewed as weirdos?
Like, are we going to be like the Amish?
Are we going to be like the Amish because we don't want to do this?
Or are they the weirdos?
Well, we are definitely going to be viewed as the weirdos for not being scientists.
Well, you think most people are going to be drawn into this?
I mean, you're going to be right.
Well, because see augments their intelligence, right?
So, for example, you'll have AI glasses that are listening to your conversation with the other person.
And the other person says something about physics.
And then you want to appear smart, but you're an idiot.
You never studied physics.
But in the glasses on your screen, it's going to say, oh yeah, Occam's razor or whatever, this and that.
And you're going to be able to reply to the person sounding like you're sm going to have AI augmentation of the perception of intelligence.
Everybody will want that.
Oh, it'll become my life's mission to expose these people who are using this.
I'm telling you, it's going to be so seductive to people who want the easy route to the perception of being sophisticated or the perception of being educated, et cetera.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, but, but, you know, it's like when the state comes up with technology, we often come up with technology to kind of thwart it.
And I wonder if, if, alongside this technology, will some scrappy entrepreneur produce some kind of technology that can instantly detect that you're being a jerk like this and expose you.
Because I will invest in that.
Yeah, absolutely.
As someone who worked laboriously to acquire knowledge, I resent that.
I do it the hard way.
Yes.
Reading.
Okay.
Well, Tom, we're almost out of time.
I want to mention your website again, woodshistory dot com.
And is there anything else you'd like to add here before we wrap this up?
There's your site, woodshistory dot com.
Well, I mean, I I, you know.
I have a lot of people on my show who have their own shows.
And I worry, well, what if everybody runs to that other show and they don't listen to me anymore?
I don't have that insecurity anymore.
That's great.
I appreciate you being a good host and having me on.
So I will tell people, you have to listen to all of Mike's material first, then you can type into whatever platform you use for podcasts, you can type in the Tom Wood Show.
Try a few of those and see what you think.
But if you have any material by Mike that you haven't listened to, you have to do that first.
Oh, no, we look, we're all about sharing knowledge.
and we believe that especially voices like yours are extremely valuable.
I encourage everyone to check out your show.
Listen to it.
Well, in particular because in the coming weeks I'm going to have a certain Mike Adams on the topic.
Oh, you are?
Oh, okay.
I'm not even I don't even know what day that's scheduled.
It's on my calendar somewhere.
It's in a couple of weeks.
Okay, great.
Well, I look forward to that.
And then you can grill me about AI robots or whatever.
Okay, all right.
Well, until then, Tom, it's been a pleasure to talk with you.
Thanks.
Thanks for taking the time today.
My pleasure.
All right.
Take care, Tom.
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