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Aug. 4, 2025 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Mike Adams Talks with Frontier Pharm on Chlorine Dioxide: Natural Healing...
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Welcome to today's interview here on Brighteon.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brightion.
And as you know, I'm a strong advocate of chlorindioxide.
And in fact, even though my company doesn't sell any chlorine dioxide, we've recommended providers who have solutions.
And I can tell you, and we've donated out, I don't know, $50,000 of chlorine dioxide that was donated to us to help with the local communities.
Flooding, mold issues, you know, lots, lots of emergency medicine, all kinds of things, sterilizing surfaces, you name it.
But there are many more uses for chlorine dioxide.
And this molecule is an amazing healing molecule that the establishment has always tried to suppress.
And as you know, the more they try to suppress something, it's probably because it works really well and it denies repeat business to the pharmaceutical industry and the sick care homicide hospitals and everything else.
So today I've got two brand new guests joining me today.
And I've just met them for the first time.
I didn't even know about their company until recently.
It's Michelle and Valerie from a company called Frontier Farm, P-H-A-R-M.
They have a product called Snoot Spray and a number of other really interesting products based on chlorine dioxide.
So welcome, Michelle and Valerie, to the show today.
It's nice to meet you and it's great to have you on.
Happy to meet you and so excited to be here.
I'm really excited to have you on.
And I apologize that I wasn't even aware of your solutions until recently.
So thank you for reaching out.
I'm thrilled.
This is going to be a great conversation.
Well, that's sort of part of our story is that we kind of worked in a bubble for so long.
I mean, we've been in this field for 50 years and no one knew about us.
Now the world of chlorine dioxide is expanding by the day.
And a lot of what we've been trying to do more recently is to pull all the factions together, all the chlorine dioxide users, producers together so that we can advocate and educate and let people know that chlorine dioxide exists for so many uses that people don't even know about.
It's really extraordinary.
And let me just introduce some of your a couple of your websites.
So you've got one website called snootspray.com.
Here it is.
It's called the high-tech neti pot alternative.
We'll talk about that in a minute, but that's just one application of your technology.
You've also got, oops, here it is, FrontierFarm, P-H-A-R-M.com with the brand name DioxyCare.
And you have chlorine dioxide in all kinds of ready-to-use formats for different kinds of applications.
Can you just kind of walk us through some of those?
And oh, I should tell the audience, you've generously given us a discount code that we'll give out later if people want to order any of these and save some money.
But just walk us through what this is.
Well, where to start?
Yeah, I know.
We've spent the past really 50 years developing products with chlorine dioxide, trying to make chlorine dioxide available to the masses and on a personal scale.
So we've got products for oral care, skincare, wound care, nasal care, in pre-formulated formulas at the right concentration for each application.
Wow.
Shelf-stable, ready to use at a moment's notice.
So we've taken all the guesswork out of using chlorine dioxide, which, you know, when you try to make it yourself, it's certainly doable.
You can do that.
It's...
It's got its challenges.
It's got its challenges.
And there's lots of ways to use it.
And our goal is just to make it easy.
And we've been studying chlorine dioxide, like I said, for 50 years.
My dad was the originator and the pioneer in the field of chlorine dioxide.
He was the first to patent a method back in the 1970s for a way to make it for personal scale use on the tabletop.
Before that, it wasn't available.
Wow.
And he patented that method.
And as he was studying that, he was using it on himself.
He was using it on any cut, scrape, my acne, pretty much anything he could find it on to use.
And it was healing everything quickly and without any adverse events.
And so he went on to patent a method of making the chlorine dioxide specifically for use on the skin and for wound healing purposes.
And then he went on to create a company called Alside Corp, where he continued to patent and develop these products to try to commercialize them, but really spent most of his time studying the germicidal efficacy and toxicity and pharmacology of chlorine dioxide to find out what it does on and in the body.
And he went on to take that company public.
He got EPA approval as a high-level surface disinfectant, hospital disinfectant.
He worked with almost every government agency testing the products, DOD, CDC, NIH, Department of Agriculture, NASA.
And as many of your viewers might know, NASA ultimately went on to coin the term for chlorine dioxide, a universal antidote, based a lot on the work that they did with my dad and the work he was doing in so many fields.
Yeah, look, if I were being launched into space and I could only choose one medicine to bring, it would be chlorine dioxide because it's got so many uses externally as well as experimentally, internally in various applications.
But that's not your focus.
But I do want to, I just want to ask you to just kind of walk us through some of the product applications that you have because I'm on your website here and I'm not even, I'm not familiar with your product line.
I mean, I'm learning along with our audience, but I did notice that recently there was a dental rinse sold on Amazon that contained chlorine dioxide in it.
And I was actually really excited to see that because, you know, here's a use that is approved.
So yeah, go ahead.
I see you're holding up.
Yeah, so probably our best-selling product, maybe next to Snoot, is our mouthwash.
It is a two-part product.
So anyone familiar with chlorine dioxide will know that you mix sodium chloride with an acid.
And we have a proprietary formula that also includes other ingredients that make it a better mouthwash.
Sorry, let me show you.
That's perfect.
So what do you do?
One pump of each?
Usually it's three pumps of each.
One, two, three.
Okay.
A little awkward trying to hold it.
Usually one, two, three.
And now the chlorine dioxide is immediately generating, and that's part of our proprietary technologies that Is a way of making it immediately generate the chlorine dioxide, which enabled us to actually have a mouthwash.
Before that, we had to wait a long time.
And also, it turns blue, which is which you've added something to make it an indicator.
Yes.
So we add blue to Part B to help ensure that you're mixing the two parts because you dispense only part A or only part B. So that helps make sure that you've got both parts in there.
But you'll see over time, we'll leave this.
This is going to turn from blue to a light green, eventually to yellow.
Color is going to indicate the strength of the chlorine dioxide.
And so you can tailor the strength of this to your needs.
Typically, you only need about 30 seconds, 15 to 30 seconds of mixing time to have enough chlorine dioxide for most applications in the mouth, certainly for bad breath.
If you had a very bad infection in the mouth, you might want to let it mix for about a minute because it's going to get stronger and it's going to work maybe a little better on an infection or something more difficult to treat.
Okay.
And I would imagine that dentists rave about the effects of this with oral health.
Yeah, we have a periodontist that we work with who said that this has made him a better dentist.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
If I were suffering from any kind of gum infection or tooth infection, I would immediately use chlorine dioxide.
But you mentioned earlier that you have it packaged at the proper concentrations.
And in fact, the number one suggestion that I get from people, because I've been recommending another company, Saffrax, that makes just the instant tablets.
It's more of an industrial kind of approach.
And you throw a tablet in a bucket of water and you get a certain ppm of chlorine dioxide.
The number one complaint, I guess, I get from people is they don't know how to make the proper concentration for their specific use.
And of course, you know, I'm because I'm a lab guy, so I have pipettes.
I'm, oh, just take 10 mils of the 10 ppm and then put that into 50 mils of this.
And they're like, what?
And that's not, you know, people just want things that are ready to go.
And that's what you offer.
Yeah, it's like you lost me at Pipette.
Right, exactly.
What are you talking about?
What pipettes?
So this is going to give you approximately 40 parts per million at 30 seconds every time you make it.
And it's going to go from 40 parts per million up to up to about 200 parts per million at about five minutes, five to ten minutes.
So it's going to give you that every single time you make it.
It's going to give you that same curve every single time.
So some people like to wait and let it mix and get stronger.
It's not necessary to do that.
Some people just like it stronger, but it'll work at any part of that range.
It tastes best within a minute because over time, the flavor, which is a natural flavoring, gets oxidized by the chlorine dioxide color.
So it makes best within the minute.
And then what kind of rinse duration do you recommend?
If you can rinse for about a minute, that's best.
And usually you want to swish it around your mouth and then gargle to the back of your throat and then spit it out.
Okay.
So that's great.
So that's an oral rinse application.
Now, tell us about the Snoot Spray.
That's a fun name.
Love it.
That's the website, snootspray.com.
What do you have for us there?
So Snoot Spray comes in a cute little kit, and it works very similarly to the mouthwash, where essentially you've got two bottles here, part A and B, and we include some measuring cups.
And the same thing applies.
Essentially, you want to mix equal parts of A and B. And we include this fabulous little nasal sprayer.
And essentially, once you've mixed those two parts, you're basically just going to combine it into the sprayer and it's ready to go.
So very, very quickly, it creates the chlorine dioxide.
And as Val mentioned, basically every time it's going to start out at about 20, 30 parts per million.
It's going to reach a high at about 10 to 12 hours, depending on the formula, you know, 80 to 100 parts per million-ish.
And then, of course, because it's chlorine dioxide gas, it will actually outgas from even the top of the nasal sprayer.
So you basically mix it at the beginning of the week and it's good for seven days.
So parts per million decline, the solution is used up.
And if you still have solution at the end of the week left, if you haven't used it all, you can pretty much tell by the smell, right?
The chlorine dioxide smell is gone, but it, of course, converts to salt water, which is fine too.
So a lot of people love this for a lot of reasons, not only for sinus infections, but a lot of them will use it to get off of prescription medications, even affrin, right?
There's people that are addicted to affrin, cannot get off of it.
And this is for you to weed off of some of these other steroid sprays, affrin, things like that.
And of course, it's probably, of course, you probably know too, you know, chlorine dioxide is such a small molecule that it penetrates the blood-brain barrier.
So we're having incredible success with even the snoot spray alone because it's basically going past that blood-brain barrier into the body, into the system.
And so we're having results with these two products, especially shockingly, people dealing with vaccine injury and a whole host of different things, even skin issues, just by using some of these topical products that are really dismembrane.
That's exciting to hear, but I have a question for you.
So since it is producing some level, some concentration of chlorine gas, is it safe for people when they spray for the nasal passages, do you recommend they inhale or not inhale at the same time?
Definitely inhale.
Definitely inhale.
And so it's not.
That's a Bill Clinton question, actually.
So it's not a high enough concentration to cause any damage to the respiratory tract.
No.
Okay.
That's great.
It's formulated to help remove the biofilm that's in the nose and overcome the organic material that's in the nose.
So you need enough in there because the organics are going to knock out some of the chlorine dioxide.
So you need enough in there to overcome that and the biofilm and then do the work.
So that's why we usually recommend, oh, I usually spray a couple of times, wait a minute, blow my nose, get all that crud out, and then spray again while it's clearer and it lets the chlorine dioxide penetrate even better.
That makes sense.
And it's a good time to remind our audience that chlorine dioxide is a very potent oxidizing agent.
And for that reason, there are no pathogens that can escape its action.
It's just, it deals with everything.
Exactly.
You know, I was going to say, too, you know, a lot of people will, even hardcore chlorine dioxide lovers like Kerry Rivera, for example, and even Mark Grenin.
Carrie, when we connected with Carrie a couple of years ago, you know, she's hardcore.
She'll dip her toothbrush in chlorine dioxide.
And she got our products and was blown away at how much better they tasted and felt than just straight up chlorine dioxide.
So she's a huge fan.
So is Mark Rennin.
Really, kind of everybody in the chlorine dioxide world has come to really appreciate that.
Yeah, you can get, you know, the Saphrax, you can make it yourself, you know, with A and B. It's very, very inexpensive, but it's just difficult to incorporate into your daily routine.
And these are the kind of products that make it easy to get chlorine dioxide everywhere and anywhere.
So you can take snoot, spray it up your nose, sinuses.
You can even spray it in the back of your throat.
If you're taking it with you, you feel an itchy, scratchy throat.
You can spray it in your ears.
I've accidentally sprayed it into my eyes.
I don't really recommend it, but it doesn't hurt.
And you think, you know, the main filters that the body has is primarily the nose and the mouth.
So, you know, pathogens get in the nose, the mouth, the ears, even the eyes.
And if you can't rinse these things out, you know, that's when basically these issues are going to take hold.
So this makes it super handy to use chlorine dioxide in ways that are just really difficult any other way.
See, I would travel with that.
Not that I don't go on airplanes anymore because they're so toxic.
But if I did, I would definitely have, I would be spraying like every hour on the plane.
Oh, my God.
Isn't there a case for like just prophylactic use if you know you're going to be in a theater or something to use it ahead of time?
Yep, it's really sure.
Yeah, absolutely.
And I will say, when I'm prepared, I try to go with a bag full of snoot sprayers onto every airplane and I pass them out to the flight attendants and the people at the desk and they love it.
They're so grateful for it because of course they're, you know, they can't get sick.
You know, they can't afford to get sick and they're encountering all these pathogens and all these sick people all the time.
So it's a perfect little tool for anybody who travels.
You know, cruise ships, you know, everybody gets norovirus.
I mean, there's so many things floating around in all these places that we get stuck in.
So these are really ways to make chlorine dioxide easy.
And you know, I'm going to mention this.
I doubt you have any research on this.
So I'll just mention it as my opinion.
But I believe that chlorine dioxide also denatures spike protein that can be shed by certain people through the air and onto.
So that's something that you have looked at.
There's actually a paper, I think, by some scientists in Japan.
I know there's at least one.
There's probably a few more.
And there's a lot of people that we are working with, both practitioners as well as individuals, wellness practitioners who are having excellent success with, you know, if you want to call it long vax or long COVID, but it's really vaccine injury.
And absolutely, they feel like it's probably one of the best, if not the most effective solutions for spike protein and obviously vaccine adjuvants, right?
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Okay, let me ask you a chemistry question here.
The one piece of advice I've always given people about using chlorine dioxide is because it's such a powerful oxidizing agent that it can also lower your circulating levels of vitamin C. So it's important to resupply vitamin C at some period after use, which is easy to do.
It doesn't cost much of anything.
Do you have any information about advising people what that time window would be?
Have you ever heard about that?
That's not something we tended to get into because we focus on the topical applications.
Maybe that's something more from an oral ingestion concern.
You're probably right, yeah.
Topically, no.
Certainly vitamin C, vitamin E, vitamin D can be used if you happen to have an allergic reaction or some sort of irritation from the chlorine dioxide.
There's, you know, some very few people that we've encountered are allergic to chlorine dioxide.
If they put vitamin E or C or D on their skin, it will neutralize the chlorine dioxide, but it will neutralize vitamin C. Okay, okay, yeah, really good point.
I mean, it's important for people to understand the chemistry because that also explains why chlorine dioxide is so effective and why there's nothing that can resist its very powerful effects.
I mean, this is why it's also been used topically during COVID.
I mean, and all over the world, even in like third world nations, can use it to sterilize surgical equipment and medical surfaces and doorknobs.
They sprayed it on city buses, you know?
I know it's crazy, right?
It was absolutely in our mind when COVID hit, we were like, ah, you know, this is, you know, this is a piece of cake.
Nobody should be afraid of COVID.
We've got everything we need and it's easy.
Right.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Okay.
Tell us about some of the other products that you have.
You covered a couple now.
What else?
I'm looking at your website.
You've got the mouthwash.
You've got the snoot spray.
Okay.
So many products.
Let's see.
Okay.
So along together with the mouthwash, we have a toothpaste, which is also a two-part product.
You have a part A and a part B. Ah.
So it's activated also then.
Yeah.
So you do the same thing where you're just going to put some part.
Again, usually you would do this on the countertop.
It's a little off way, but you put a little of A, a little of B right on your toothbrush.
Yep.
You know, just brush her away.
You're going to have to go rinse out.
Okay, so the water.
That tastes great.
And the brushing does the mixing, and then it starts generating chlorine dioxide as you're brushing.
Right away.
Yep.
That's very cool.
Yep.
And I have to brush mint taste.
Oh, and you can see here.
Let's put it up again.
Here we are back to the something white or something white.
Actually, now it's clear to yellowish color.
Oops.
Oh, that's the mouthwash.
Can't really see the yellow too much on there, but anyway, you can see.
So you can eyeball this strength by the colour.
Absolutely.
Okay.
And then we make a range of wound care.
Yes.
I'm very interested in that for emergency first aid.
Right.
So it comes in a liquid as they're called siderm, siderm spray and siderm gel.
We actually have two versions of the gel.
Someone took my other gel, but one's stronger, one's a little less concentrated.
This one happens to be for dermal closed dermal lesions like a ringworm, a fungal infection.
You can use this on an open wound.
It's a little bit of an overkill.
It's got more chlorine dioxide than you might need.
We have another version that's just called straight siderm.
This is called Cidermax.
Okay.
Cider Max.
Yeah, regular siderm is for any kind of wound, large, small, diabetic ulcer, bed sore.
Oh, we got tons of gory stuff.
Oh, yeah.
Do you want to shoot?
You want to have some pictures?
Well, no, I want to ask you about Burn wounds.
Burns excellent on burns as well.
Yeah.
Okay, that's good to know.
I know about Manuka honey is really good for a lot of wounds.
So I guess what I would do is I would spray it first with chlorin dioxide and then put like a honey layer on top of that.
I think that you could do that, yes.
Yeah.
Okay, okay, cool.
Honey, the honey will neutralize the chlorine dioxide, but if you let the chlorine dioxide do its work first and then put the honey on it.
That's what I would do.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Okay.
So let me give out the website again.
It is Frontier Farm, P-H-A-R-M, frontierfarm.com.
And this is where you can order these products.
And by the way, we're my company, we're not paid anything from your purchase of these, but your company has given us a discount code for our customer base to save some money.
And that code is Ranger, correct?
Yes.
Okay, great.
I would welcome, though, if you would send me one set for evaluation, I could try them out here in the studio.
And I'd be happy to do that.
And because I haven't experienced your products yet, but I'm really excited to.
Yeah, totally.
I think they're actually on their way.
Yeah, they are on them.
Oh, that's even better.
One of everything.
Wow.
Well, I have to thank my producer for making that happen.
But look, I mean, what's so important to me about this is that people tend to use a lot of really toxic products, like triclozan is the ingredient that's in a lot of off-the-shelf mouthwashes.
I think it might have been banned.
I don't recall, but for many years, people were using triclozan.
And if you look at typical mouthwashes, they're just loaded with a lot of toxic ingredients.
And I see chlorine dioxide as being natural.
It's simple, it's natural.
You don't need all these additives to make it work.
Now, you've added some flavor, a color indicator, things like that, but these aren't toxic chemicals that you find in a lot of off-the-shelf products.
So can you talk to us about your formulations and sort of, you know, what's your philosophy of keeping it simple?
Well, one of the things that my dad did was to create a chlorine dioxide complex so that it eliminates the need to mix the two parts.
So all of our skincare and wound care products are actually in this single part complex.
And there's only like three or four ingredients in these products, typically glycerin as a humectant.
And the ingredients vary a little bit product to product, but this is a nail fungus product, a product for warts.
Again, this is our foaming facial cleanser.
They all have the chlorine dioxide complex, which eliminates the need to have a lot of other ingredients and eliminates the need to mix the two parts.
So we've simplified it that much more.
And this was something really revolutionary that my dad came up with because it's also shelf-stable for a year and a half.
So it functions as its own preservative then, I would guess.
Yeah, yes, absolutely.
So you don't need to add toxic sodium benzoate and things like that, right?
Right.
We do have sodium benzoate in the toothpaste because it is a this the toothpaste and mouthwash and the snoot are two-part products.
So we were required to put sodium benzoate into one of the parts to keep it preserved, so to speak, because it doesn't have the chlorine dioxide until you mix the two.
Got it.
But people aren't drinking the toothpaste anyway.
I think that's the only one of our products that has any preservative in it whatsoever.
Okay.
Well, yeah.
I mean, I can see that for just using it in your mouth and spitting it out.
But you'd be amazed how many beverages have sodium benzoate in them that people are just chugging them all day long.
That's great.
Yeah.
And of course you're not swallowing these products.
You have what?
You're not swallowing these products.
Yeah, exactly.
You're not swallowing.
Now, so this stable matrix that you just mentioned that your father put together, does it then go through some kind of activation when it comes into contact with like saliva?
Or like, how does that, how does that work?
Or skin?
How does it, how's the chlorine dioxide sort of released from it?
So when we make it, we're actually activating it and then stabilizing that active form of chlorine dioxide.
Oh.
Using it already activated, ready to go.
So it's just staying in the product until you use it.
Yes.
So normally when you make chlorine dioxide in water, it's just going to off-gas slowly over a couple of weeks.
Right.
But you're saying or hours.
If you left it open, this will off-gas within another hour or so.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Well, I made some here in the studio.
I don't even know where we have that jar now.
And it was very potent, but I kept it sealed and it stayed yellow for a few weeks.
Yes.
But it was sealed.
Yeah.
Okay.
So your matrix just, it encapsulates the chlorine dioxide to prevent it from gassing off.
Right.
Okay.
That's good to know.
Very cool.
All right.
Well, what else do people need to know about what you have?
Well, I would say that we have a product for really virtually any problem under the sun.
You know, the wound care, we've got a gel, the spray, a couple different sizes, toenail, fungus, which is shockingly very common, you know, warts, acne, you know, really kind of anything you can think of.
And even the facial cleanser actually comes in a gel for like a body wash.
So, you know, we, you know, we look at this as these products really should replace every ingredient that you've got in the medicine cabinet, right?
The modern medicine cabinet should have a line of chlorine dioxide products as really the heart and soul or the foundational components in the medicine cabinet.
And it's easy to do so.
And if you can actually incorporate these products into your daily routine, which is easy to do, but sometimes difficult to do with just drinking straight up chlorine dioxide, you know, can you avoid some of these other problems that you'd have to run to a pharmaceutical or dentist for?
Very, very possible.
See, that's what I like to teach is independence or decentralization from the medical system.
So let's talk about that aspect of this.
You know, your product line and the topic that you're covering has been marginalized and censored and suppressed for decades.
Yes.
You've dealt with that.
I've dealt with that.
You know, why is that in your view?
Well, there's theories.
Yeah, lots of, okay, I'll throw out.
This is my most recent theory is that if you're the U.S. government or any kind of government and you have a bunch of bioweapons facilities and programs all around the globe, and if everybody knows the antidote to the bioweapon, you don't really want that to get out there.
And of course, as you know, chlorine dioxide is the antidote for anthrax, for smallpox, for COVID, for Origent Orange for, you know, what else?
I don't know if there's any other bioweapon that it isn't effective against.
So that's my theory that it's that it's been so aggressively censored because of that.
But interestingly, you know, Valerie's dad, Howard, Howard Alger, you know, we did work.
We've got a ton of papers, you know, studies and papers that we very actively worked with different government agencies really up through the 90s.
So, you know, it wasn't a big deal up until just recently.
So it seems to me that if our leadership wanted to help America be healthy in an affordable way, an effective way, and a safe way, that our surgeon general should be advocating chlorine dioxide.
But of course, that doesn't enrich the pharmaceutical giants and the medical industrial complex.
Yeah.
We totally agree.
There's hardly any money in teaching people about chlorine dioxide.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Don't we know it?
Yeah.
Right.
Well, we did actually, we knew we could kind of see the tea leaves, and we very strategically reached out to people in the medical freedom community, people like Steve Kirsch.
And of course, we actually met with Bobby Kennedy back in 2023 because we felt like, you know, when I looked at everything that he was talking about, advocating for discussing all the challenges that are happening in kids and families today and just everybody, I kept thinking, how does he not know about chlorine dioxide?
It's the antidote for everything.
So we made it a point to connect with him and give him some information about this is what it is.
This is how it works.
It's got a long storied history.
It's very effective.
And, you know, one of the things that I'm guessing you probably know of is those three FDA warnings that were out there going back 15 years.
We literally said, you know, we've got an army of doctors ready, willing, and able, well, to basically go help the world with all of these different challenges that chlorine dioxide can help with.
But the problem is these FDA warnings.
And until these FDA warnings are pulled, people are very rightly hesitant.
And I actually sent him a text message and I said, you know, by the way, we got to get this warning pulled.
And he responded on it.
And a couple of weeks later, they were pulled.
So we're not saying that because of that, that worked.
There was a lot of other people that were involved in this, but those warnings are now gone.
They're not, if you go click on them, it gives you a 404 error.
So those warnings have now been pulled down, which we're thrilled about.
Wow.
I wasn't even aware of that.
And I'm a little bit surprised because it seems like McCary at the FDA is busy announcing all kinds of partnerships with Google and Microsoft and OpenAI and AI automation of your medication management.
And it's like, okay, this is exactly the opposite of what we advocate.
But I want to talk about pediatricians too, because ear, nose, and throat issues is what brings kids back into the pediatrician's office to, of course, be jabbed and jabbed again and jabbed again.
And if it wasn't for ear, nose, and throat infections, pediatricians would go out of business.
So true.
Right?
Yeah.
And your product line specifically, I mean, I can imagine, would be highly, highly effective in those areas.
Talk to us about families using it with their children and, you know, the kind of results that you see in children.
Very safe for use in children.
The only concern would be if it's one of the two-part systems to make sure you're mixing it for them so that you've got a mix.
You don't want your two-year-old random concentration generator.
Yeah, it's safe really for use at any age.
And I think the nice part too is, you know, the snoot, kids, of course, everybody loves the name, but kids really love it.
And kids love even watching the mix or helping, you know, pumping the pumps on the mouthwash.
And the fact that this is, you know, it is not a drug.
It is not going to make you jittery or sleepy.
It's not going to interact with anything else.
So it's a way to avoid having your kid get on antihistamines or, you know, going down that whole path.
And I've used this, you know, I've had so many people who had ringing in their ears or other issues.
I'm like, just spray some snoot in there.
And, you know, it's gone, you know, within within minutes often.
So these things can be used in so many different ways.
And the fact you can take it with you is super, super easy.
So yeah, you know, to me, the mouthwash and the snoot is probably the easiest, most effective way to stay healthy.
And, you know, I was a late convert when we first started formulating this with Howard and Val in 2009.
I was like, no, I don't want to use it.
I never used it.
And I just finally got sick and tired of getting sick from traveling all the time.
And I finally started using it.
And I would literally go on a three-day business trip and I wouldn't use it until I got home.
And I have not had a cold or a flu or bronchitis or sinus infection since 2012, which is when I finally started using it.
Yeah.
So it definitely works.
And you don't even have to use it like religiously non-stop.
I mean, at the end of the day, use it to rinse everything, pathogens, allergens, things that you've accumulated during the day.
Yeah, absolutely.
I would love to add it to my medicine cabinet.
I use, there's a xylitol nasal spray that I use, and it has a very small amount of grapefruit seed extract, GSE.
And I found that to be highly, highly effective for any kind of like, you know, throat symptoms or anything like that.
And then, of course, I also take off-label ivertmectin if I feel symptoms.
And then I also use chlorine dioxide that I mix up myself.
But I actually have, I've saved chlorine dioxide for more severe symptoms.
Yeah.
And I think your point is, is Delta, there's a lot of really good, you know, nasal spray products out there and mouthwashes out there.
But, you know, chlorine dioxide is pretty much like the best.
You know, it's the best compound.
So, you know, of course, you know, we're a little bit biased.
But, you know, the fact that, you know, one of the key things with sinus infections and I think other pathogens taking hold is the biofilm issue.
And to my knowledge, I don't think anything else really breaks up biofilm like chlorine dioxide.
Well, I consider chlorine dioxide to be the Thor's hammer of options.
It's like when you really just need to knock it out, that's when I turn to chlorine dioxide.
Now, importantly, nothing in your company, you don't focus on any kind of internal or oral ingestion use for chlorine dioxide, correct?
Correct.
And that's a good thing because we all know the story of Mark Grennan.
And he and his sons were sent to prison for many years for offering chlorine dioxide for internal use as part of a religious organization, along with claims of treating cancer and things like that.
And they cracked down on him very, very aggressively.
I mean, he spent years in prison for that.
But it just shows you sort of the oversized reaction to that tells me something very important because there weren't any Mark Grennan customers that were complaining of being harmed.
Exactly.
That was his point.
Show me someone I hurt.
Right, right.
In fact, there were lots of Mark Grenin customers who were talking about how much better they felt.
But that wasn't tolerated by the medical system.
My question to you, even though your case is completely different, do you believe that we are now seeing the beginning of a more open embracing of the efficacy of chlorine dioxide in mainstream consumer products.
I would say, you know, Valerie's been at this longer than I have, but the conversations we're having now are nothing like the conversations we had even two, three years ago.
You know, it's shocking to every time we run into somebody now who hears about or knows about chlorine dioxide, we're still blown away because nobody knew what the hell we were talking about before.
And now people are just totally embracing it.
So, frankly, you know, the work that Mark has done and Carrie and everyone else kind of in the gym humbles and even Andreas Cowker, those people have all made huge inroads in educating a vast amount of the population and kind of mainstreaming it.
And what we're seeing now too is, you know, when we first started with Snoot, I thought, oh, ear, nose, and throat doctors are going to love this.
This is going to be a great addition to their practice.
Don't they want to get their patients healthy?
No, they do not.
Absolutely zero interest from the ENT doctors.
And now what we're seeing, we actually went to the FLCCC, which was now the Independent Medical Alliance.
We went to their event last February.
I think it was last year in February.
And there were like 500 doctors there.
And we were blown away.
I'm going to say 99 out of 100.
And we talked to almost everybody there.
When we said we make chlorine dioxide products, every single one of them, except for 1%, I'd say, said, oh my God, I've heard about chlorine dioxide.
I've got some sitting on my desk.
I'm just afraid to use it.
And I think they're afraid for two things.
One, the biggest thing is they don't know how to use it, to your earlier point.
How do I fix it?
What's the formulation?
What's the protocol?
And then it's like, well, what if I get in trouble?
And so, you know, so we're really kind of experiencing this renaissance in, well, I don't know, I don't know if we ever had a renaissance to begin with, but we're now getting mainstream medical doctors who have, frankly, they've exhausted all pharmaceutical therapies and they're running out of things to treat their patients with.
So now they're looking at chlorine dioxide, I think, out of desperation.
And what they're finding is they're actually pretty thrilled with it.
They're amazed at the results.
And, you know, we're seeing people even like with vaccine injury just from using the topical products having success and improvement in all kinds of things, neuropathy, shingles, rashes, crazy, crazy situations that I don't even think five years ago we would have guessed it would have even been helpful for.
I wish I had known about chlorine dioxide my entire life, but I didn't.
And I only got up to speed right after COVID.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
And of course, I had people telling me about MMS before that, and I didn't really understand that.
Why does it have to have an A and a B. I didn't really look at the chemistry, but it's so simple now.
It's so simple.
And as I got educated, I began to realize all of the safe, effective uses of this.
I even want to mention there's a website that I want to encourage people to check out that's not related to your company or you, but it's called theuniversalantidote.com.
And this is a really great educational resource.
And watch the video here.
Take the course.
They also link to all of the extraordinary research.
And I've even forgotten who's behind this website.
I think I did know at one time who was behind it, but I've forgotten.
It doesn't matter because all the research is verifiable.
You can check it out yourself.
But the universalantidote.com is a great resource.
There are so many different uses of chlorine dioxide, but I want to say that I love what you've put together because it takes the guesswork out of making the concentrations.
And I've had people use the tablets and put it in a bucket of water and then ask, well, like, how long do I have to wait?
And, you know, is it safe to stand around while that's there?
I'm like, well, it's off-gassing, you know, chlorine gas.
So don't stick your head over the bucket and breathe in.
You know, you got to understand the basics of chemistry to be totally safe with it.
But you have laid out those safety margins and concentrations for the specific applications.
So thank you so much for doing that.
It's extraordinary.
Thank you.
We've worked really hard for a long time to have these products work and to make them shelf-stable so that they're ready at a moment's notice.
And are your products available at maybe chiropractic offices or spas or things like that?
Yeah, we're working more and more with naturopathic doctors, chiropractors, wellness coaches, integrative medicine.
They're starting to embrace this technology.
And I'll say, you know, we, from the Snoot Spray angle, you know, we really partnered with Frontier Pharmaceutical initially as a sales and marketing partner.
They manufactured the product, but we handled the sales and marketing.
And I can tell you after, you know, 10 or 15 years of outreach with very, very limited success due to the censorship, the lack of understanding, you know, we're really not doing any outreach because people are reaching out to us.
So that tells you the difference is that we've now got people's interest.
And that's far more interesting to us than having to pound the pavement and cold calls.
And word of mouth, people are reading the substacks by Dr. Robert Yoho, Pierre Corey, Midwestern Doctor, all these people that are now jumping on the chlorine dioxide bandwagon, which is thrilling to us.
And we welcome.
We think every single chiropractor should be having these in their office.
And we've got an affiliate program, a wholesale program.
So it makes it super easy, whether you have an office or not.
I truly believe that these products, especially the Snoot and the Mouthwash, are probably the most important tools a practitioner can have in their toolbox.
And I'm glad you mentioned some of those names too, including a Midwestern doctor who I've actually subscribed to his substack because of his extraordinary research on DMSO, among other things.
And after learning about DMSO mixed with the blue dye known as hematoxylin, of course, I acquired hematoxylin and I started running tests.
And then someone I know had a dog that was on death's door.
They had scheduled euthanasia because the dog was riddled with tumors.
That person, I mean, to the point where the dog couldn't even eat without vomiting.
And I know that this has nothing to do with chlorine dioxide, but that person read the information about DMSO with hematoxylin.
They got the dye.
They got the DMSO.
They put it in a little non-needle syringe and they would feed, I think it was like just actually one tenth of a milliliter to their dog twice a day.
And within a matter of weeks, those tumors practically vanished.
I mean, it was exactly like what the old veterinarians had done with even intravenous use of DMSO plus hematoxylin.
It was a miracle cure.
And I was shocked because I've been in this industry 25 years as the health ranger.
And I didn't know about that.
I mean, I didn't, I should have known about chlorine dioxide a decade sooner.
But the thing is, the censorship is effective.
And that's why it's so critical that I have you on the show here, that we share this message, because there are lives that can be so positively impacted by this.
We can't let the cover-ups succeed.
We've got to get this out there.
We really do.
And I think to your point, you know, it's so frustrating for us.
You know, you hear these stories of death and destruction and amputations and gangrene and COVID and all these things.
It's like, you know, chlorine dioxide would work on it.
And, you know, we have frustrations even with our own family.
You know, you want to shake these people and say, here's the answer.
And sometimes, you know, it takes desperation to get there.
But, you know, this is why we're so thrilled to be on your show because I think your audience is so aware and awake to this stuff and they're interested.
And really, that's our goal.
Maybe next time we meet, we can show you some pictures of some of the successes that we've had with even just these topical products and helping not only people, but dogs and cats and dogs and pets basically avoid amputation.
That was my next question is about pets.
But before you answer that, I want to ask you too, what are you using as your acid activator?
Because I've seen diluted hydrochloric acid.
I've seen citric acid.
I've seen a number of things.
What are you using?
We tend to use lactic acid and phosphoric acid.
Okay.
Okay.
And it would be at a very low level, even.
I mean, a low concentration.
Yeah, it varies depending on the product and the application, yes.
Okay.
Okay.
Great.
And see, that's the other thing that is great for people to know that there are so many different activators that can work, like even in a pinch, acetic acid from vinegar, you know?
Yeah.
I mean, the thing that amazes me or scares me is just that we've been in this so long and trying to perfect this that people will use anything.
And, you know, each different kind of acid you use is going to give you a different concentration and no real consistency to it.
But that also speaks to the tolerance, the wide tolerance range of chlorine dioxide from a safety and efficacy standpoint, that it will work and be safe at a pretty wide range of concentration.
Well, and I think of sort of just bulk chlorine dioxide as emergency off-grid ditch medicine, right?
And in those emergency cases, like if you were far from any hospital or even in America right now, there are shortages of things like topical antibiotics and there are tariffs being placed on the importation of topical antibiotics.
Well, guess what?
I don't buy anything from the pharmacy.
Personally, I don't take any prescription drugs.
I don't go to doctors.
I don't have annual checkups.
I don't care.
Because, I mean, I'm drinking, I'm drinking my smoothies, right?
I'm getting sunshine.
I'm doing superfoods.
I already know and I'm paying attention.
But I don't want to be dependent on a system that's broken, is my point.
And what you offer, in my opinion, are things that help people decentralize from a broken sick care system.
Absolutely.
At this point, the only reason I would go to a doctor is if I had a broken bone.
Yeah, that's understandable.
Yeah, I mean, ER care is very good in Western medicine.
Yeah, and I think these products really, you know, I think, you know, the fan base for chlorine dioxide is growing continuously.
But as you know, there's a lot of people that freak out like, what?
Chlorine dioxide?
This is crazy.
I have to mix this on my kitchen sink.
And, you know, they think it's just a bridge too far for some people.
But it's amazing how many people who would not touch chlorine dioxide with a 10-foot pole.
But if they get cold or flu or they're worried about COVID or whatever, and you're like, here, I got this great nasal spray.
They're like, oh, fantastic.
I'll try it.
I love it.
So the fact that we actually have cute packaging, barcodes, we actually sell these on Amazon also.
This makes chlorine dioxide like legitimate or credible for some people.
That's interesting.
No product.
It's not like some concoction that you're mixing that for some people, they just think it's too crazy and they can't get past it.
So I think that, you know, when we first started really reaching out to the chlorine dioxide, you know, community, you know, that was a question we had.
We're going to cannibalize, you know, we're trying to sell these products, but what we found is really the opposite is so many people have been trained on chlorine dioxide.
They're aware of it.
They know what it can do.
They understand how it's made.
But if we can make it easy and convenient, there's a place for all of this in everybody's life.
So this is a way to, you know, if you know about chlorine dioxide, you love it and you want your friends and family to try it.
It's tough to go the route.
If you get A and B and you mix it up and you wait and you do this, those protocols are really too much for some people.
But if you can say, oh my gosh, I have this amazing face wash or this incredible mouthwash or my teeth are whiter and cleaner or I have this handy little thing.
I'm not congested and I go through airports, not afraid anymore.
This makes it really palatable.
And it's great stocking stuffers too.
Baking cookies is more difficult in terms of a recipe.
And also for the women watching, if you do all this hair dye stuff, you're practically running a meth lab with all your hair dye chemicals.
I mean, don't complain about chemicals.
All you got to do with this is A and B. It couldn't be easier.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Yeah.
And, you know, I have to say, like, one of the products that Val mentioned, this foaming face wash that we came out with recently, it's remarkable.
And I didn't really fully understand the benefits of it until just about a couple months ago.
And it removes makeup better than almost anything out there, the stuff that dermatologists typically prescribe to people under their care.
You know, it dissolves all that grime and makeup residue.
And your face is smooth and clean.
I mean, chloridioxat has these amazing properties, you know, for improving skin texture and getting rid of funk and inflammation and redness.
It's remarkable and removes dead skin cells.
So it has a mild exfoliating properties, but it can also be used as a deodorizing agent.
And it's also good to use in intimate areas for deodorizing and sort of deep cleaning.
We do have it in two different forms.
More of a shower gel as a body wash and then the foaming cleanser, both great for lots of different things.
Great for sensitivities and great for something called keratosis polaris, which is an affliction that about half the population get.
It gives you little bumps on the side of your face or on the back of your arms.
And we're working with a dermatologist who helped us develop that and actually discovered it for that particular use.
She said there is nothing else on the market that will take care of that particular issue.
So it's great for any kind of skin sensitivity.
It washes clean.
There's no residue.
It doesn't dry.
It's just surprisingly nice product.
I use it every day.
See, that's great.
My kids use it.
Their friends use it.
They can't live without it.
So that's been our newest addition, which we're really enjoying.
And I tell them to use it to clean everything.
Okay.
Well, last question for you.
And you may know that I am extremely sensitive to any kind of synthetic fragrance.
No fragrances.
Okay, that's my question.
Do you add any fragrance to your products?
No.
That's great.
That's great.
Because I mean, look, I mean, honestly, what people put on their bodies with skin lotions and especially shampoos, it's just so toxic.
I don't know.
And they can never tell that they're using those products because they're desensitized.
And then they walk by me and I'm like, oh, gosh.
I actually have a policy in my studio.
Like, if you come into my studio, you are warned in advance, you cannot bring fragrance in here.
And yet people do.
Wow.
Amazing.
Because they don't know that they smell that way.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, I'm building a new studio with a larger table so I can sit farther away from my guests.
Yes, that's true.
Well, the good thing about, you know, these products is it kills the bacteria, which is what causes the body odor, which is why people use, you know, deodorants.
So you don't need the deodorant if you don't have the bacteria.
Yeah, exactly.
Oh, man.
All right.
Well, look, I'm very much looking forward to trying your products.
I'll have you back again once I get to use them for a while and give you some feedback of how I think it's going.
And but again, for our customers who want to purchase these, is Frontier Farm, is that the best place to buy them?
Yeah, you can get all of the products on Frontier Farm.
Okay.
And that's spelled P-H-A-R-M.
Correct.
Yeah.
And that discount code Ranger is applicable on both websites, the Snoot Spray site, which really just has Snoot and empty refillable nasal sprays, sprayers, but and everything else, of course, on Frontier.
Okay, Snoot Spray is the other site for the nasal spray.
Okay, that's great.
Speaking of Snoots, I have a wild hog that's been rooting up grass.
You can use it on your hogs.
On my ranch.
Yeah, but I can't catch them.
My dogs like to chase them around.
They basically play with each other.
But the pig is looking for food, wild onions, and he's big.
He's like at least 250 pounds, maybe 300.
And my dogs just think it's fun to chase him around.
But anyway, there's an actual snoot that could probably use a spray, but I can't.
Yeah.
Yeah, we actually have people that use snoot on rabbits, horses, cats, if you can pin them down.
Yeah, I don't know how they do it, but apparently it's been done.
And we even have pet care products essentially, you know, for ear fungus, you know, animal ears.
You never know if it's fungus or what is it, fungus or bacteria.
Or bacteria.
Oh, yeah.
That makes perfect sense.
Yeah.
Oh.
You don't have to culture ahead of time because it's going to kill both.
See, that's great.
Okay.
So I've been treating like my pets, ear infections I've been treating with coconut oil infused with garlic.
Oh, you're going to love this.
They'll love it.
Yeah.
We have a product called Irrigant, which is made specifically for use in the ears.
It just sounds like a dropper, put it in front of something black.
You can see the dropper.
Oh, okay.
And I've got a funny funny dog snoot study or story.
A friend of mine who lives out in Oregon, she has a ranch.
And she said, wow, wow.
She sent me a picture of her dog with the snoot in front of it.
And she said, long story short, she and her dog were out in the field and they both started sneezing uncontrollably, both of them, to the point where it was like over and over and over and over and they couldn't stop.
And so she said she grabbed the dog, put the dog in the cart with her, ran back to the house, mixed up some snoot, which she had actually, she uses all my products, but she hadn't tried the snoot yet.
She's like, I'm going to try the snoot.
She tried it on herself.
She's like, oh, that was nice.
That's fine.
She gives it to the dog and they both stopped sneezing.
Huh.
Like, I don't know what it was we were exposed to, but it helped us stop sneezing.
Wow.
Yeah, that was fun.
That's very cool.
Oh, you know what?
I forgot to tell you one thing before we go.
And I'm sorry to keep you, but we also ran a laboratory test of the ability of chlorine dioxide to destroy glyphosate.
And we confirmed that it does.
And I forgot the percentage, but I'm thinking it was like 80% was destroyed or something in that range because we have our own lab.
So for people who are concerned about glyphosate that might be in the air, et cetera, you know, because of all the spraying and then the wind blows it around, you know, chlorine dioxide destroys glyphosate, which is very, very hard to do.
We actually could not find anything that would destroy glyphosate, any other normal thing.
But it takes something really a strong oxidizing agent to do so.
So it works.
Good to know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's great.
Okay.
All right.
Well, thank you both.
Hey, it's been a great conversation.
Thanks for all the fun that we've had here.
And I look forward to trying your product line.
And, you know, keep doing what you're doing.
We've got to educate people, get people more decentralized for the medical system.
And I appreciate you joining me today.
It's been great.
Thanks, Mike.
Thank you so much for sharing it.
All right.
Thank you both.
Okay.
And again, folks, the website is Frontier Farm.
That's spelled P-H-A-R-M.
You can get their product line there.
Discount code Ranger will save you 10%, I believe.
And I want to thank them for extending that discount code.
And they're going to send me these products for evaluation.
I'll let you know how that goes.
I'm really looking forward to it.
So thank you for watching today.
This has been another interesting interview here on Brytown.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the Health Ranger.
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