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July 22, 2025 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Dane Wigington warns: CLIMATE ENGINEERING operations threaten humanity...
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All right, welcome everybody to this emergency interview with Dane Wiggington from Geoengineering Watch.
I'm Mike Adams of Brighteon.com.
And as you know, I'm in Texas.
Texas got hit with these catastrophic, clearly engineered floods and storms.
And of course, I want to thank all of you who donated to our food and personal supply rescue effort, which was delivered a couple of weeks ago.
And my friend Doc Pete Chambers, who's running for governor of Texas, he's still out there with the teams.
They're still finding bodies.
To this day, they're still finding bodies.
And Dane Wiginton is here to help us try to make sense of all of this.
Welcome, Dane.
It's always an honor to have you on the show.
Thanks for joining me.
Honor to be here, Mike.
Thank you for your continued attention toward our skies.
And my question is, what the hell will it take to wake people up to the fact that the entire global hydrological cycle has been completely disrailled, disrupted, nothing natural about any of it at this point?
Would any particular weather event have happened in that place and that way at that time without climate engineering?
Short answer, no.
Yeah, and I'm really glad you mentioned that because I want to kind of back up for a second here.
Now, you know, I've been interviewing you from many years.
I've been a follower of your work for a very long time.
You've been talking about this for more than 20 years.
Isn't it interesting that I think that your message and your voice is suddenly getting a lot more traction now because it's sort of inescapable of what's going on?
Are you seeing that too?
We're definitely seeing that.
Yeah, the phone and communication is off the hook here.
I mean, coming in from every direction.
It's unfortunate that it has to take events like what happened, just happened in Texas, which is happening all over the globe, by the way, in other regions.
But it's unfortunate it takes that for many people to finally look up and pay attention that the planet's primary life support systems have been completely hijacked, completely derailed for purposes of power and control.
And that's what it's about.
So the two primary weapon effects of this are droughts and floods.
And right now, we've seen this huge rash of floods.
And when I say droughts, that also tends to lead to fires.
So I'm going to say dryness, you know, fires and droughts together, and then floods.
Can you explain to us, I saw a post recently that said there's been something like 36 1,000-year floods just this summer in North America.
And then there was horrible flooding in China also.
Can you explain to us what's happening with the floods?
That's many, many countries.
And yes, there's been the most flash flood warnings in recorded history in the U.S. this year.
In the meantime, in the Western U.S., we can't get a cloud, let alone a drop of rain, and the drying up of the entire Western U.S., including the two largest reservoirs in the U.S., Lake Mead and Lake Powell, which are going to supply power to much of the southwest, water to 40 million people.
Those are virtually drying up while we have constant deluge further east.
So again, there's nothing natural about it.
They're blocking precipitation from the west with numerous aspects of climate engineering, the pressure zone manipulation with installations like HAART, but there are many other frequency transmitters, forms of frequency transmitter, networks of transmitters like NEXRAD.
So they're again derailing the hydrological cycle.
We can speculate about the agendas and objectives, certainly, and they are likely many.
But the fact that these events we're seeing are inseparable, absolutely inseparable from climate engineering is inarguable.
And the fact that so many in the so-called environmental communities, Mike, are completely emphatically denying the climate engineering elephant in the sky is criminal.
Uh-huh.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
And let's talk about the Palisades fires in California and how, I mean, I want to get to the motivation behind this, but there have been virtually no building permits issued for people to rebuild.
I know there have been cleanup permits issued, but hardly any building permits.
It seems to me like the government of California is deliberately making sure that people don't rebuild.
Is that also your impression?
Well, there's no denying they're using this for many forms of manipulation.
There's no question.
There's no question they know about it as well.
Also, Gavin Newsom, the power structure tool and actor for the powers that shouldn't be, as I've stated on our exchanges as well, I mean, I've personally met with Gavin in the Capitol.
His top aide presented about 45 minutes worth of data to them.
He's known about this for a very long time and not only done nothing, but continued to pretend it isn't happening.
So we have people like Gavin throughout the system that will do whatever they're told that they think will advance their personal pursuit of whatever it is they want, power, wealth.
But the bottom line is they know, and even down to local officials who I know, know, still not saying anything.
In fact, in Reading, California, I was called, this is going back a number of years, into a confidential meeting because they knew this was my arena of research.
They were getting massive spikes of aluminum in every single precipitation event.
They never disclosed it.
They still haven't disclosed it.
We have the state of California stopping testing for aluminum and water quality in 2002.
The whole system is rigged, Mike.
The whole thing, including the particulates we're all breathing, and this is more in your arena of health, and you know how harmful nanoparticles are.
The whole, quote, air quality testing system is designed to hide these particulates.
They don't even look for them, let alone disclose them when we're talking about nanoparticles.
And the smaller the particle, the more harmful it is.
In the case of Texas and the frequency transmissions from the NEXRAD network, and no, they're not just weather monitoring stations, they're weather manipulation facilities, period.
And I'm surprised we still have access to those loops, by the way.
But we could see there in the event that just happened in Texas, just like we saw with Hurricane Harvey in Texas, when that transmission network is energized, for example, in the case of what just happened on July 4th, When it's energized on all sides of that plume of moisture, it basically corrals it and keeps it from moving anywhere.
So it precipitates out in one place.
That's what happened.
Yeah, and that's, I saw that there were, what, 20 inches of rain in one spot in central Texas and Kerr County.
And it was, it was like a, it was almost like a tropical storm just sat on top of that spot for, you know, two days straight and just dumped everything.
Couldn't move.
It can't move.
I mean, this is patented technology.
Those transmissions have a repelling effect on the atmospheric moisture plume.
Same thing with Hurricane Harvey.
I encourage your listeners to search that one also, geoengineeringwatch.org, Hurricane Harvey.
How do they know that that hurricane was going to go where it went seven days in advance and they knew it would sit there for days dumping 50 inches of rain because the frequency transmissions made sure it sat there and spun and didn't move anywhere.
And we recorded that.
And again, I'm surprised you have access to those data loops, but maybe those in power feel justified in what they do if they leave a trail of breadcrumbs that nobody pays attention to.
I don't know.
But that's what we've actually recorded.
There's no denying the interaction there.
Okay, so this, of course, the establishment is going to say this isn't real what you're describing.
These are just natural patterns.
But that's what they used to say about chemtrails.
And now we've got widespread conversations about chemtrails and even laws that are supposed to ban chemtrails in states like Florida.
But I'd like you to comment on those laws because it seems to me that they're kind of pointless because nobody's, there aren't like police planes flying around the sky stopping chemtrailing.
People do it anyway.
You're correct.
The law doesn't stop it.
You're correct.
There's no means or method to enforce these legislative bills, but where it does matter is the awareness is being raised.
And if we can reach a critical massive awareness so that our military brothers and sisters know what they're actually participating and know it's not some benevolent act for the common good.
It's weather, chemical, and biological warfare, period.
And what else have they tried to do, Mike?
One, we see former EPA or excuse me, current EPA administrator Lee Zelding with Zeldon, total pathetic.
Did you see that, Mike?
Did you see what Lee Zeldon put out?
I did.
He said, we'll release everything we know about geoengineering.
Yeah, just like they were doing with the Epstein files, right?
So again, completely pathetic attempt to sidestep this issue, pretending to address it when they're doing anything.
But what did Lee Zeldin say two months ago, three months ago, that he was going to deal with this issue by going after the two Silicon Valley actors, PR stunt people who launched a few balloons?
We talked about that, I think, before.
And I mean, that was a total ploy of smoke and mirrors, and that's exactly what he just did again.
And now what they've tried to do also, Mike, is to distract from the issue by implying that Rainmaker, a small localized cloud seating company with a 25-year-old CEO who's friends with Bill Clinton and Peter Phiehl, that somehow that has something to do with this, has nothing to do with this.
He's being used as a distraction.
They put this kid on CNN, Fox News, and everywhere else to confuse people as to the difference between cloud seeding and climate engineering, completely separate animals.
It's comparing an ant to an elephant.
So while they're distracting people to look at this cloud seating company with this 25-year-old CEO that has an airplane that might dump five pounds of material in a flight that he did two days earlier, which doesn't take into account the frequency transmission network, which is core to what happened in Texas, and that a single military tanker in climate engineering operations can dump 100 tons in a single payload.
So it's look here, don't look there.
That makes sense.
Yeah, totally.
And yeah, that guy has been making the rounds.
He's hard to miss because he has a mullet like Holland Oates from the 1970s.
But I'm not trying to make fun of people's hairdo, but it's, again, it's hard to miss, right?
But here's the thing.
That's part of why they make him hard to miss.
So people remember that and they get confused and the distraction of the narrative.
And yeah, I just did a round with Jimmy Dore and he had some interesting comments about everything he just stated that was, you know, it's humorous, but at the same time, it's just part of their act.
Yeah, totally.
But one of the interesting things that that guy said, though, was that he said he could use three drones and unleash just one pound of cloud seeding material, and that would result in 40 million pounds of water coming out of the sky.
So that's a one to 40 million ratio that he admitted to that, you know, and as you know, as you were saying, the military planes can spray hundreds of tons over time of this material.
And, you know, imagine the billions and trillions of gallons of water that they can pull out of the sky.
So, I mean, you're right.
That's not the whole story at all, but at least it's an admission that they can manipulate the weather in a large leveraging fashion.
You know, on that subject, Mike, it is absolutely ludicrous at this point that anyone can deny that this technology does exist, has existed for many decades.
We have mountains of historical data, indisputed data.
Project Popeye in Vietnam, military, U.S. military, so successful at controlling the flow of rain that they passed the InMod treaties in the 70s.
I know you know about this, that forbid prohibited weather modification for wartime purposes, but not over a country's own population.
How about that?
And going back even further, the very minuscule amount of material that was put into a hurricane in 1947, Project Sirrus had a profound effect in that storm, did a 180.
I know you've discussed that before, and I know you're familiar with that.
And so now when we add the frequency transmissions, which are not a part of whatever Augustus Derico says he can do, the frequency transmissions can make or break any scenario because if they scatter that moisture, which they are very effective at doing, they're doing that on the California coast.
There's a transmitter right below Eureka that we can see on water vapor loops.
It literally obliterates any incoming moisture, ensuring that we are completely dried out here in the state.
And they're lying about everything, Mike.
They don't even show my location of Northern California as being under drought designation.
That's a blatant, glaring lie.
Field moisture is at record lows here in many places.
I mean, we haven't had rain for four plus months at temperatures of 100 degrees and almost no humidity.
It's baked to a crisp.
They're lying about everything.
But bottom line is they're increasingly desperate and the disruption of the hydrological cycle is increasingly severe.
In the coming weeks and months, we're going to see much, much more.
Talk to us about all the fires that are taking place that aren't being reported.
I'm going to send you, as I mentioned when we're done with the exchange, I'll send you a Western North America fire map.
You have to see it to believe it.
Just the rash of fires across all of Western North America.
And this is what's key.
Where is that smoke going?
Because we have peer-reviewed study advocating from the so-called science community advocating for the intentional burning of northern latitude forests to put enough particulate matter in the air to function as a form of solar radiation management.
Is that not the epitome of human insanity?
Destroying the planet's last remaining life support systems to provide, in their eyes, temporary cooling when in fact we know that climate engineering everything is not only not cooling the planet, it's being used as a weapon of war for power control.
And these particulates trap more heat than they deflect.
It's doing the exact opposite of what they claim they're trying to achieve with this.
So the temporary cooling, when, for example, in 2023, when the Canadian fires started, source of ignition, separate subject.
The point is what's setting the temperature for these forests to burn with such ferocity, and that's climate engineering.
But when that smoke plume was manipulated down over the northeast and forced to the ground with the manipulated atmospheric high pressure zone, they forced that smoke to the ground and keep it there for days and weeks.
And that cooled that region by about 25 degrees.
But at what costs?
And is not the contamination of the population making them sicker and dumber, literally, is that not a benefit to the power structure?
I would argue it definitely is.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
Okay.
So is there an attempt at mass migration here to try to force people out of the western USA?
And if so, is there something here about trying to get rare earth minerals out of the ground or something, turn this into a giant mine or mining areas?
I mean, what's the motivation behind this?
There's likely many agendas and objectives.
If we look at Hurricane Helene, yes, there was a lithium mine there that they had Pentagon contracts they were not going to be able to fulfill because the residents were not willing to vacate the land before Hurricane Helene was manipulated to that location.
What many don't know in the case of Iran, it's felt that they have a massive, perhaps the second largest in the world, deposit of rare earth minerals there.
Is that a part of the agenda of recent scenarios we've seen play out in that part of the world?
Likely many other agendas and objectives, the clearing out of the Pacific Palisades, the Haina.
But I would argue again on the current trajectory, whatever agendas and objectives they have, none of that will reach fruition on a dead planet.
If climate engineering is allowed to continue destroying what's left of the planet's life support systems, we're done.
It's that simple.
And people, Mike, you hear this all the time, right?
How many people say, no, this can't be they.
And again, they refers to the money printers, although many people don't really connect that dot.
They wouldn't do this to themselves.
Mike, you hear that, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, I've heard that.
How much have they done to themselves?
And we've been over this again.
And it's a simple psychological defense mechanism to try to find some reason to excuse away what's happening in our skies that anybody but the clinical blind can see because this is an immediate existential threat.
So people try to find any way to psychologically escape from this.
They've already done this to themselves with, again, the detonation of 2,400 nuclear bombs.
We have enough to exterminate humanity a thousand times over.
The nuclear power plants, Fukushima, which I know you know a lot about, and that triple nuclear meltdown, no end in sight, no technology to fix it.
We have 440 two more nuke plants.
The AI centers, now we have dilapidated, decommissioned nuclear plants like Three Mile Island being put back online for AI centers.
And again, there's no sanity in this equation.
We're dealing with the clinically insane, psychotic, power structure mentality.
And as I've stated many times, this is so key because it's from psychoanalysis that those in power have a common thread, a quote, near total lack of comprehension as to the consequences of their actions, even to themselves.
So for those that are trying to excuse this away, saying they wouldn't do this to themselves, they already have and they continue to.
So, you know, let's talk about that nuclear power situation briefly because I recently interviewed an expert on the power grid and I also did a lot of research.
Yes, Trump and the tech giants announced that with Westinghouse, which is a company that builds everything at $10 billion over budget and then goes bankrupt anyway, Westinghouse is going to build 10 new AP1000 nuclear power plants in the United States.
They say construction will be underway for all 10 plants by the year 2030, which is not that far away for nuke plants.
These plants generate 1,100 megawatts of power each.
So, you know, we're talking 10 plus, 11 gigawatts of power for the country.
And you're right.
It's all going to the AI data centers.
But the AI data centers are going to be built before the nuke plants are done.
So that means They're going to be sucking power off the grid and they don't want as many people around using power.
I mean, clearly, everybody that's using an air conditioner is one less server rack that they can run in their data center.
You know what I mean?
There's a competition between humans and AI now.
Oh, yes.
You're completely correct.
People should connect those dots.
And it's not just the power usage, it's the water usage as well.
They're putting the data centers in water scarce regions.
So, I mean, it should be no secret to people at this point.
It shouldn't be, it should be obvious to them that cooling the herd is a major objective that's well underway.
They're trying to do it from a thousand different directions.
But anyone who doesn't believe that's possible is simply not paying attention.
It's exactly what's occurring.
And I would argue these dates of 2030 or anything beyond that, on the current course, they will never reach those objectives because collapse will thwart whatever plans they had when they don't have the means to carry out these objectives and agendas.
And on the nuke plants, when there's no one to man those plants, again, 442 of them takes about three decades to cold shut down a nuke plant.
And even that's not benign.
But we're going to have Fukushima times hundreds on the current course, and no one gets out alive from that scenario.
So again, many people are focusing on a lot of different causes and concerns, which have validity in and of themselves.
I'm not denying that.
But if we don't deal with this biggest hole in the bottom of the boat, which is what's happening in our skies, not just the weather warfare part, which is also destroying the ozone layer, by the way, that's an extremely near-term existential threat.
Climate engineering is the key causal factor, not hairspray cans.
And when I say immediate threat, I mean now.
We're close to functional collapse now.
So we have all that.
We had the weather warfare on top and the chemical and biological aspect of this because all these elements they're dispersing are toxic.
So if we don't deal with this, again, all other causes or concerns will very soon be moot.
We need people to realize that and help us in this battle.
All right.
So what do we do?
I mean, for years, you know, you've called for grassroots action to pressure legislators.
And, you know, legislators have passed some laws now.
But as you and I both agree, Dane, those laws are basically unenforceable.
Is there anything that humanity can do to stop this cycle before we are exterminated or partially exterminated?
I would argue the only way forward, we've always argued as a Geoengineering Watch, is a critical massive awareness to the point.
And that doesn't just mean knowing.
It means understanding that all of us go down on the current course.
When the ship sinks, we all go down with it so that military families and military personnel understand they are literally participating in their own extremely near-term demise and that of their posterity.
Only with an internal stand down do we have any chance of stopping this insanity because those in power could not do what they do without the active or passive support of the majority population.
That needs to change and people need to get past their psychological defense mechanism, their firewall of not facing an issue like what's happening in our skies because it's just simply too psychologically threatening.
We need to change our paradigm of purpose.
Are we here to pursue personal pleasures until the last breath?
Are we here to make a difference for the better and preserve some sort of future for our posterity?
Of course, it is that.
It is the latter.
So bottom line is we can make this difference.
And the wake up and the legislation is helping.
I just had a conference call with DeSantis' primary aide and primary attorney from the state of Florida, other state congressmen, and they are trying to draft these bills with enough teeth to gain the necessary media attention.
Again, as you correctly stated, and you're completely right, Mike, there's no way to enforce this because it's DOD, period.
They're not going to stop.
We have to reach a critical massive awareness and this legislation and all these states is helping us to do that.
But that's the only way forward because you're right, it can't be enforced.
Okay, so here's an important question in all of this.
You just mentioned DOD.
How much of what's going on with weather weapons is, let's say, a country like the United States being attacked by its own DOD versus how much is due to foreign nations attacking other nations, right?
So is the DOD waging weather weapons on China?
And is China waging weather weapons against the United States?
Is that going on?
This is where the equation becomes very complex.
Historically, until recently, there has certainly been global collusion and cooperation between otherwise adversarial nations behind closed doors.
We know that.
We have many government documents at GeoEngine Watch.
One I mentioned before, an 800-page U.S. Senate document from 1978, outlining the intergovernmental cooperation between, quote, otherwise adversarial nations, China, Russia, U.S. We know Soviet climate engineering scientists were touring U.S. facilities in the 60s, in the height of the Cold War.
Our scientists touring their facilities.
So it's like mafia families that collude and cooperate to a point until things get bad, and then they start to infight.
So in regard to any aerosol dispersions over U.S. airspace, no question, that is our government, period.
Nobody's going to disperse anything here that they didn't allow or permit.
So we can blame our country for that.
In regard to atmospheric pressure zones in some regions, that's where it becomes more complicated because the countries that have ionosphere heaters like HAARP and Alaska, the atmosphere is becoming likely a battlefield.
And when we have Mike, do you remember when Dubai got two years worth of rain in about six hours, a year and a half ago?
I do.
So let's look at that as weather warfare.
Dubai, only days earlier, stated they were going to ditch the U.S. dollar, and they get hit with this massive climate engineering operation.
And they initially tried to implicate their own cloud seeding operations in that, but then they backpedaled from that because that was starting to blow up in their face.
And then they pretended, no, there was no weather mod in this.
A blatant lie.
We recorded over the Persian Gulf the day before and the day of massive frequency transmission signatures on aerosol cloud cover canopies.
No question, that was weather modification, climate engineering, weather warfare.
So yes, it's certainly being used as a covert weapon of war and has been for decades.
That's why many countries allow U.S. occupation on their soil because their precipitation is cut off.
Let's go back to Iran.
We have the president of Iran on the floor of the UN.
This is post-9-11 stating that NATO was cutting off the precipitation to their country, just as is happening with the whole Western U.S. right now.
We can speculate on agendas and objectives, but the fact that our rain is being cut off, we can see it on satellite imagery.
We can see what they're doing.
We can see the pressure zone manipulation.
So again, the fact that this is connected to climate engineering and weather warfare is absolutely inarguable.
And on the intergovernmental potential conflicts now with weather in our atmosphere, likely that is increasing, but still over U.S. air space, any dispersions we see are clearly under the DOD umbrella, period.
And if I can end with this, in a global context, the U.S. military has three times more aerial tankers, which are used in these operations, three times more than all other militaries in the world combined.
U.S. is the biggest player by far.
Is there any kind of international non-proliferation agreement or treaty that covers weather weapons, like there is nuclear weapons or biological weapons?
Well, again, you have the Enmod treaties in the 70s, and you have other smokescreens that have happened as well from environmental groups, which I don't even want to call them that because they're anti-environmental, because they're basically doing their part to cover the tracks of the climate engineer.
So in the 2010 biodiversity conference in Kyoto, you had the ETC group, a large environmental group, passed a global moratorium on climate engineering.
And far too many, and this is the drawback with state legislation too.
Far too many take a sigh of relief and decide they don't need to worry about this anymore, which could not be further from the truth.
So those moratoriums or the bans in certain states, Tennessee, Florida, the potential downside in that is that when individuals decide they don't need to worry about this issue anymore because of that legislation, that's where the negative effect that legislation can come into play.
And Dr. Jane Ruby, who I know you know, and Jane's an incredibly tenacious, strong, and courageous individual, and that's a point Jane tried to bring up as well.
And she's right about that, that that's the negative side of these legislative efforts.
If people decide to sit the bench after it passes, that's a mistake.
And that would be the negative of those efforts.
But if we can make sure people understand that that's no, not time to sit the bench, that's time to increase your kick to the finish line as hard as you can to use that as a platform to raise more awareness, then we can turn that to our advantage.
Now, for someone listening to this who's saying, well, we're not seeing any effects of this, I would say you are at the grocery store right now.
Your food is a lot more expensive because of weather weapons or climate engineering.
Can you talk about some of the obvious effects?
And of course, people see the fires and the floods, and that's undeniable.
But what other effects are actually happening right now as a result of these climate engineering efforts?
It is so extensive.
And for people to think that, well, they saw something happen 30 years ago, so they know it must be normal now.
No, it's not.
If we look back at the start date of these operations being globally deployed and starting over the polar regions, 1945, that's a long time.
Not many people are even that old at this point.
So we don't know what was or is natural from that point on.
And they're ramping these programs up, Mike.
That's why we see in the hail situation when people in Texas say, well, it's always hailed here.
Well, in recent decades, going all the way back to 1980, we don't know how much of that was at least connected to chemical ice nucleation operations.
And now we know they're ramping those operations up because, Mike, you've seen this, right?
The baseball and softball size hail, everywhere there's a decent sized storm.
We have massive hail damage.
You see that, right?
Well, yeah, and we see solar farms just get devastated by the hail.
Wiped out.
Absolutely wiped.
That's a whole other subject that's mind-numbingly criminal for the so-called environmental community to be...
I worked for Bechtel Power, worked on one of the first commercial solar plants of its type in the U.S. in the 1980s.
How much sense does it make, or let me rephrase that, how moronic is it to push these forms of alternate energy, not just solar, but also wind and hydro, all of which are being decimated by climate engineering, for the so-called environmental groups to push those three forms of alternative energy while denying the climate engineering elephant in the factor that's greatly diminishing those forms of energy.
That's what got me into this battle in the first place.
My home on the cover for the world's largest renewable energy magazine, Off-Grid Home.
I'm losing 60, 70, 80% of my solar power uptake from whatever these planes are emitting.
I knew that couldn't be quote condensation.
So again, the environmental community is behaving with criminal hypocrisy at this point.
And for those that don't think or don't think they see impacts from these operations, they're simply not paying attention.
They're asleep at the wheel.
I'm trying to choose my words carefully here.
I don't want to offend anybody, but it's time to wake up.
Yeah, absolutely.
I'm so grateful that you have that background.
In fact, I want to kind of pivot to Questions in that area.
So, grid shifting technology, which buffers grid production from wind or solar or hydro and stores it in batteries and then releases it when the demand is there.
That technology is really lagging and it's very expensive.
It's just not mature yet.
I've looked at flow batteries.
I've looked at sodium ion, which is actually pretty promising to replace lithium ion.
But nothing is really very affordable in that area.
However, if we had solutions that were cheap, reliable, safe, and scalable, then that would be a game changer for all kinds of power generation that could be time shifted into peak hours, et cetera.
Dane, what do you see as the most promising or anything that's promising in that area of energy storage?
I simply don't see it yet because, again, it's like claiming even a solar panel is a, quote, renewable form of energy.
It is better than outright hydrocarbon burning, but it's certainly not renewable.
All these panels go into landfills.
All the turbine blades go into landfills.
Climate engineering, again, not only blocking direct sunlight, which completely decimates solar power output, but it's affecting convection, which affects surface wind flows, which means we have these all or nothing wind scenarios.
It's either blowing hurricane force or nothing, which means that the wind turbines are dysfunctional.
If a wind turbine wind speed doubles from optimal, it makes nothing because you have to shut that turbine down to keep it from blowing apart.
That's right.
If the wind speed is cut in half, it makes one eighth its design output.
They're a totally pointless, quote, alternative form of energy.
And on hydropower, when they're cutting out precipitation to huge regions like the southwest U.S., and those hydro dams can't make anything, also causing a massive problem.
So again, we've painted ourselves into a very dark corner at this point.
Very few people want to face that because we've all seen too many science fiction movies that somehow we tech our way out of this.
Whatever we do or don't do, Mike, if we don't stop climate engineering and we don't stop the damage it's doing to the planet's life support systems, nothing else matters.
No other discussion matters.
No other new technology matters because we won't be here.
It's that simple.
And that's not a long-term projection based on insect population collapse, wildlife population collapse, fisheries collapse.
We're about to hit the wall, brother.
We are at war with both Russia and essentially Iran over energy.
I mean, we've been at war in the Middle East over energy for decades, energy and politics, I suppose.
In your view, Dane, what is the least bad form of energy that we should be scaling up if our society demands more energy, you know, more air conditioning, more electric cars, more AI data centers?
What should we turn to to achieve that?
That's a tough question.
I know, because there are no good answers.
Let me compare.
I mean, let's take an EV car compared to a fuel-efficient hydrocarbon car.
And the hydrocarbon car would be much more practical.
Again, I'm not saying we should make more.
I'm not saying that's not long-term problematic, but I'm saying the whole EV thing, especially for transportation, makes zero sense, none.
When you add up all the environmental negatives from, again, the mines in foreign countries with child labor and the disposal of those highly toxic batteries, the extra weight that vehicle is carrying because of the batteries.
And also, there's things like this, Mike, that almost no one knows because they're not told this.
So when you're out on a road trip in an EV and you stop at a charging station and you're in a hurry, you're not going to wait for a standard charge time.
You're going to quick charge that car.
And most people are quick charging.
So what happens to that EV battery when you quick charge?
The lifespan goes down by 600%.
How many people know that?
They don't know that.
And again, and all the other negatives.
So there's nothing gained there.
And the environmental community to keep touting this is really, really wrong at this point.
But what we're trying to get people to do is to build bridges, is to, in regard to the state of the climate, again, how can we have any discussion about climate, anything from any perspective without addressing the climate engineering weather warfare elephant in the equation?
First, if we can force that to light, Mike, the fur would fly shockwave around the world.
We're getting closer.
Our phone's ringing off the hook with legislators from a lot of different states now that are trying to get up to speed at this issue.
We're trying to point out to them that the media is trying to confuse them as to weather modification or cloud seeding and climate engineering, like they're the same.
They're not the same.
They're trying to distract from the climate engineering elephant in the sky.
And we're trying to make the legislators more aware and astute of the chess game we're playing, if you will.
But we are perilously close to the empty food shelves you mentioned.
Everything changes at that moment.
And the American public, by and large, is still asleep at the wheel.
And every time that we see radical weather now, the mainstream media and the political left in this country immediately blame it on, quote, climate change, which means something totally different from climate engineering.
When they say climate change, what they mean is people driving cars, people burning fossil fuels or coal-fired power plants, carbon release, basically.
So they're saying that carbon causes heavy rain.
Like carbon dioxide in the air, they say, causes heavy rain, and we have to decarbonize.
And yet you and I know, Dane, that carbon dioxide is necessary for all rainforests, all pollination plants, all the pollinators have to have more flowers, and there are more flowers when there's higher CO2 in the air.
And the crops, all the food crops need CO2 in order to produce food.
So they're just completely on the wrong track on this, it seems to me.
What's your take?
Well, again, what we would argue is we have been poor stewards of the planet, no question.
We have completely altered atmospheric chemistry from pre-industrial scenarios and climate engineering being a big part of that.
So again, what we would encourage people to do, whatever their position is on the climate or the state of the climate, we would encourage people from all sides of any discussion on that issue to unite on the fact that there's no legitimate discussion of climate anything from any perspective without addressing climate engineering first.
And there's nothing benevolent in these operations.
Nothing.
Zero.
This is about power and control and the stated purpose and the criminal behavior of the so-called climate science community to pretend this isn't happening, Mike, just like the quote, safe and effective in the medical industrial complex, still pretending that those medical treatments are safe and effective when they're anything but.
We have the same behavior from the so-called climate science community, ignoring this climate engineering elephant in the equation and all the consequences from it.
So again, if we can unite on that common cause and we can expose and stop this, then we can sort the rest out.
But the bottom line is, again, if we don't stop what they're doing in our skies, we're not going to be here long.
And that doesn't mean centuries.
It doesn't mean decades.
It means we're on a timeline of few making it to the end of this decade.
And again, I know people will hear that and they will roll their eyes and run for cover.
But I'm trying to make this point.
Climate intervention operations have totally derailed what's left of the planet's life support systems.
You can't live on a spinning ball of rock in space for long when you destroy the atmosphere, which is so thin, Mike.
The atmosphere on our planet is as thin as a layer of paint on a basketball.
Think about that.
It's that thin layer that allows us to live here.
The ozone layer alone if we had no other problems.
The ozone layer alone, which climate engineering is destroying.
Again, hairspray cans contain negative elements, yes, CFCs, but it's virtually a paper cup full of water compared to a tidal wave when we compare it to climate engineering.
Climate engineering is destroying the ozone layer without which we all die.
We're near functional collapse now.
And as that happens, we won't be able to grow any food.
Game over, Mad Max times 8 million.
And it's the non-linear aspect of this equation, which almost no one gets.
They think such great earth changes would take centuries.
Not the case when you intentionally intervene in the climate system and the life support systems.
So again, the immediacy of our common dilemma is far more grave than almost any understand.
And the power structure will do their best to hide that until the last possible second.
That's what they're doing.
So I'm glad you brought that up.
And I'd like to remind our audience that nearly all the food that you're eating every day is food that was grown in the last year.
Yes.
Right?
In almost every case.
There may be a few exceptions.
But so the planet is less than one year away from total starvation if we can't grow food.
I mean, that's just rational logic, right?
And the floods and the fires are hampering food production on a massive scale, not to mention some of the political attacks on ranching, especially in Europe, shutting down the ranches, et cetera.
What would our world look like without climate engineering?
What would groceries cost if all the climate engineering stopped?
And you fast forward one year, how much would food prices come down in your estimation?
There's so much momentum behind the damage done that we are looking at horrific consequences no matter what.
If we back up to the inception of these operations, if we had never started them, how much better position would we be in right now if we had never started?
So in regard to disabling the planet's ability to respond to the damage done, let's take a boreal forest, Mike, or even tropical forests like the Amazon.
When climate engineering and the toxic precipitation it produces is contaminating soil microbiome and root systems, which shuts down, in the case of aluminum, nutrient uptake for forests, trees, all forms of flora, those trees are not feeding on carbon.
They're not releasing oxygen.
They're not growing.
The forests are dying from the roots up and from the top down because the destroyed ozone layer is frying foliage.
So climate engineering, if we had never started from crops to forests, has derailed the planet's ability to respond to the other changes that are taking place.
It's a death sentence.
It's pounding the final nails into our collective coffin.
So if we stop right now, the science term that's applied to this is called double catastrophe scenario because they have addressed this because they want us to believe that once you start climate engineering, you can never ever stop, which is obviously ludicrous.
Of course, at some point, it will stop as everything collapses.
But in fact, if we don't stop, we're done.
If we don't completely cease and allow the planet to respond on its own with what's left of its life support systems, we're done.
Game over.
If the hydrological cycle ceases to function because climate engineering has so decimated the atmosphere that the cloud-forming capabilities of the planet are damaged beyond repair, done again.
So again, the gravity of this issue cannot be overstated.
We're getting more in the climate science community that clearly know about this are starting to, in a roundabout way, speak out, but they need to get much more direct, much more assertive, much more courageous, and tell it like it is.
Stand up, tell the truth while we still have time.
Okay, that's a critical message.
Tell our audience about your website, geoengineeringwatch.org, correct?
Correct.
GeoengineeringWatch.
We're the largest website on this issue in the world.
No politics.
We have a weekly broadcast update that's no commercials either.
We pay for airtime across the country.
We pay very significant amounts for that airtime to try to get the word out near air bases, Mike.
We had a lot of our stations near air bases.
We're trying to reach military personnel.
So we're trying in every way we can to sound the alarm that we have to face this issue.
This is the biggest hole in the bottom of the boat, or we're done.
Every breath we take is toxic.
It's toxifying soils, which I know you know how bad that is.
Waters.
This is the single most damaging human activity ever.
We have to stop it.
So we're asking people to not underestimate their own personal power if they send out credible data from a credible source, which we try everything in our power to be that source.
We don't say it if we can't back it up.
Send emails to elected officials, agency officials, CC as many other aware and awake individuals as you can.
Openly CC them.
Write a peaceful, professional letter and demand those people address this issue.
For the environmental groups, Mike, we would recommend emailing them and saying that they will never get another penny unless or until they address this issue first.
We need that kind of approach.
Hard line in the sand.
Clearly, clearly.
And a personal question for you here.
You live in Northern California.
You've spoken about it a lot.
The ecosystem there is dying.
And I don't mean to put you on the spot, but how long can you stay there?
We're going to find out because I won't leave my post in this battle.
And I've documented that.
We have an Into the Wild section at geoengineeringwatch.org where my solo sabbaticals into the forest, I record.
I record the damage being done, the old growth trees dying.
I mean, in absolutely horrific speeds.
And I've tried to document everything that's happening and unfolding.
I'm at ground zero here in that sense.
And think about this, Mike.
The drinking water for much of the state of California is in my backyard.
Lake Shasta is literally in my backyard.
Highly contaminated runoff that local officials know is occurring.
I've been in a closed door meeting with Reading Environmental Waste, shown their lab tests that show extreme amounts of aluminum in every single precipitation event.
They've never disclosed it.
Never, never said a word.
Again, it's that kind of just going along with the herd to protect your paycheck and pension while the whole ship goes down.
What kind of a life is that?
What kind of an existence is that?
How do these people face their children?
How do they face themselves in the mirror?
We need to stand up and all do our individual parts.
We're all spokes in this wheel, all of us necessary to make it roll.
So we need people in all these arenas to band together, stand up and tell the truth before it's too late.
Yeah, thank you for that, Dana.
And I'll add that the collection of samples that Jane Ruby sent me that we ran through our lab, our mass spec lab, the aluminum that was falling out of the sky on these samples, the aluminum was just off the charts.
It was extremely high.
But we also found lead, cadmium, copper, and we found barium, a very high level of barium as well.
And I don't recall ever seeing that in samples, just air samples or kind of fallout samples from the sky.
And then she lives in Florida.
Barium can cause James, again, a great gal, a respected friend and colleague.
And on the barium counts, while I was doing habitat restoration here on my habitat reserve with seven other, a crew of seven Sawyers in the fuel reduction that we were doing, and there was an overcast scenario.
We could hear the jets flying overhead.
I mean, it sounded like we're at the end of an LAX runway.
They're chemically nucleating.
They're trying to chemically cool things down on the surface.
Six of eight of us got nosebleeds in 15 minutes.
We're all looking at each other with our noses bleeding.
That's barium.
So again, I mean, if it's that bad, what's it doing to all of us?
We're all absorbing these materials.
We can't breathe without sucking up.
There's nowhere to hide.
And we hear from people sometimes who say, well, they're not spraying over our space.
Well, I seriously doubt that.
And even if they worked directly over your house, this contamination is absolutely, completely ubiquitous.
And Mike, you know, the nanoplastics that we've heard so much about showing up in human brains, organs, every single organ, you know about that.
Yes, yes.
We know how bad that is.
So now, as we've said at Geoengineering Watch for the entire length of our existence, it's not as bad as we're being told.
It's way worse, exponentially worse than anything we're being told across the board.
And now they've acknowledged that in the nanoplastic department as well.
Now with the nanoplastics added to the microplastics they addressed before, they've just acknowledged in the last week that the nanoplastic contamination of everything, including us, our organs, our food, everything, is 10 times worse than they previously disclosed.
Oh, gee, we missed by 1,000%?
How do you miss by that much?
Because they weren't even looking for the nanoparticles.
They were looking at microplastics, but not nanoparticles.
So, oh, oops, we missed 10 times more than was actually there.
Same is true with all air quality testing because they're not even looking for nanoparticles by design.
So again, people have no idea how bad it is, how toxic the fishbowl is, how short our existence is going to be if we don't deal with this.
Okay.
Yeah.
Well, thank you for your work, your effort, your passion for protecting life on this planet.
Dane, our audience really values you and your message, and I appreciate you spending time with us today.
Always a pleasure, always an honor.
Your followers are very dedicated.
We appreciate them and you.
Team effort, Mike.
And I want to mention to our audience, if they want to support your efforts, there's a donate button on your website, geoengineeringwatch.org.
So consider making a donation in the name of protecting our planet from, well, extinction of life is what this is looking like.
So, okay, Dane, thank you so much for the interview today.
Much appreciated.
And for all of you listening, thank you for listening.
Sorry, I wasn't able to be on camera today.
I had to film this despite the fact that I'm not in my studio.
The time is growing short here.
It's an urgent issue.
But thank you for watching today.
And I'm Mike Adams, BrightTown.com.
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