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July 16, 2025 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Medical truth champion Ahmed Malik interviewed by the Health Ranger on the disastrous collapse...
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Welcome to today's interview here on Brighteon.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, and I'm very honored to be joined by an extraordinary man, a UK citizen.
His name is Ahmed Malik, and he is a board-certified orthopedic surgeon who went into private practice even before COVID.
And he dared to speak out and tell the truth about important topics like COVID and vaccines and other things.
And he has been a voice for truth and a champion for truth ever since, even though he's been dragged through this by all of the typical authorities and censorship and so on.
But he joins us today to share his story with us.
Welcome, Doc.
Malik, it's just an honor to have you on the show today.
I've been wanting to get you on for a long time.
It's great to have you here.
Well, thank you very much.
And it's reciprocal.
And hopefully you're coming on my show soon.
So it'll be great.
I would love to join your show.
I'm always honored to do that.
Now, in fact, I think you just interviewed Dr. Kirk Moore, didn't you?
Yes, I did.
My friend.
Yes.
That's awesome.
We were so, actually, I had a feeling.
I mean, I had a knowing.
I knew that his case was going to be dismissed.
I don't know how I knew, but I was so happy when that happened.
Thank you for your efforts, too, to help fellow health freedom champions.
No, absolutely.
So the funny thing is, before his court case started, he reached out to me and he was messaging me.
We've been chatting for two years.
He's been on my podcast before.
And the Sunday before his court case started, he reached out to me and I could tell he was really low.
And I said, look, let's just do a quick podcast tonight and we'll get it out and we'll push it on the airways and we'll get like, just get as much noise going as possible.
And there's other people doing the same.
Mary Tally Bowden, you know, another wonderful doctor you know about.
And so we recorded a podcast.
And if you listen to that podcast, you know, he was quite emotional.
He looked tired.
He looked like he was a bit, he was struggling.
And I said to him, look, you just hold your head up high.
You be proud of yourself.
You're an ethical doctor.
You've got integrity at your core, unlike 99.99% of doctors who just stayed quiet.
That's right.
And, you know, you never know.
You never know.
The case might get dismissed.
You know, you just hold your head up high.
Everything's going to be just fine.
And then exactly one week later, we recorded the podcast again.
And this time we're all jubilant and fist bumping.
And I said, remember last week?
Remember what I was saying?
And he was like, yeah, we did it.
Well done.
I was like, well, you did it.
So yeah.
It just goes to show, even when it's the darkest moment, never give up hope.
Keep fighting.
Keep fighting and have that self-belief.
Well said.
And I love the fact that you speak about those personal principles that have also driven you and guided you over these years.
And I want you to offer a little bit about yourself to our audience.
But in the context, I just want to remind our audience, you're in the UK, and the UK has cracked down on freedom of speech much more aggressively than has the United States government.
The UK doesn't have, you know, obviously the First Amendment, that same structure of the Bill of Rights, and even across European countries.
I mean, I think in the UK, aren't they breaking down people's doors and arresting people for mean tweets and things like that?
That's happening, right?
It is happening.
I mean, it's actually crazy.
I actually don't watch the news anymore.
I don't read the newspapers.
I will not consume their brainwashing propaganda.
But of course, news filters through to me.
People send me messages.
People send me clips, things to read.
And there's definitely a problem in this country.
I mean, we do not have that constitutional protection.
We don't have freedom of speech that is protected under the law.
And some people might say, well, does the Bill of Rights, Magna Carta?
None of the judiciary pay any notice to that.
Natural law, common law, it's all out the window.
It's all their artificial legislation acts.
And the reality is, yeah, people get even into trouble for reading silent prayer, for protesting, for a tweet.
I mean, stupid things.
It's just not bigger problems to worry about, you know?
Just a note to our viewing audience, your video box got really small there.
That's a bandwidth adaptation issue.
So for those watching, don't mind it.
It will self-correct.
I apologize, Dr. Malik, please continue.
No, no worries.
That's probably my bandwidth.
So we've got a storm going on over here right now.
So basically, you know, our government's a bit strange.
You know, it's their priorities are not what you and I would expect it to be.
You know, we have migrant invasion like you have in your country and much of the West.
And these are illegals.
We don't know who they are.
We don't know where they're coming from.
They could be criminals.
They could be drug traffickers, child traffickers, you name it.
Terrorists.
No, they're not worried about that.
And apparently our Navy can't stop these little dinghies.
We have a problem with big pharma poisoning the population.
But again, no one seems to pay any notice to that and isn't worried about any of that.
No, what they're worried about is a few people exercising their freedom of speech.
So we're living in a very strange time.
But Mike, you know that.
I know that.
This is just the tip of the iceberg.
I mean, fundamentally, look, there's a takeover of the West.
You know, we're occupied.
It sounds very drastic and dramatic.
But, you know, having awoken to a lot of the stuff that's been going on since COVID, I've realized there's a much bigger picture and everything's linked.
Whether it's what they're doing to our skies, whether it's these bioweapons shots, whether it's the forever wars, the migrant invasion, the destruction of the West, our community, our society, the family unit, the mass abortions, 5G.
I mean, I could go on and on.
In a way, they're all interlinked.
They're all interlinked.
And it's all about dumbing us down, destroying our health, our community, our culture, our spirituality, our soul.
And basically, you know, marching towards this one world totalitarian state.
I know I've jumped quite a few steps there, but this is what I've just come to a conclusion.
Everything points to this, and as ludicrous and as bizarre as it sounds, it's the only thing that makes sense when you look around us.
Because everyone, no matter how normal you might consider yourself, has to admit the world is bizarre and crazy.
And nothing makes sense.
That's completely true.
Nothing makes sense.
And what I love about you is you have a big picture view of things, as you just sort of demonstrated.
And then the videos that you post, and I want to give out your website too, it's Doc Malik.
That's M-A-L-I-K dot com.
We can put up his website there for a second.
Docmalik.com.
There it is.
And you can find, folks, all of his links.
There's some of his channel links, etc.
Social media links, interviews.
What I love about your message, Doc, is that you're just, you don't hold back.
You're not, you know, clearly no one is controlling your voice other than you and God, I suppose, right?
I mean, you are true to your humanity and you are courageous in your speech.
So thank you for being that person.
It's so rare today in any country, not just the UK, but also in the U.S. Yeah, I don't really feel courageous.
I just don't understand why other people aren't doing what I'm doing.
I know.
No, I'm being serious.
I don't understand.
I just feel like I've woken up in the set of idiocracy.
Have you seen that movie?
I cite it almost every day.
I mean, our elections are like idiocracy.
Our Department of Education is just like right out of idiocracy.
And Brando, you know, it's got what plants crave, right?
So we know.
So you know that scene where the main character is in the court case and he's trying to defend himself.
And his own defendant lawyer is mocking him and colluding with the prosecution and the judge.
And it's just mayhem.
And if anyone's not watched it, you should really watch it.
It's not a movie.
It's a documentary, predictive as well.
It's telling the future.
That was created by Mike Judge, by the way.
Right.
Right.
Well, respect to Mike Judge.
But what I'm trying to say is, the problem is we are living in that world now.
And the problem is so many of the authorities around us are those people who are characters out of idiocracy.
That's right.
Imagine reasoning with an unreasonable person.
Straight away, the advice is don't do that.
Now, just imagine if you walked off the street and went into a mental institute, mental asylum, and started arguing with the inmates.
That's what it feels like.
It's like, there's no point.
There's no point doing this.
So you're trying to argue with your medical colleagues about the dangers of vaccines.
And in their blind ignorance and hubris, they actually look down at you.
They think you're an idiot.
They think you're a Neanderthal because how dare you question vaccines?
Oh my God, like you idiot.
But then you ask them simple questions like, can you tell me any long-term studies of vaccines against a placebo, placebo, true placebo, saline?
Can you tell me what an adjuvant is and why they have them?
Can you tell me what the safe level and limit of aluminium is in the body?
Can you tell me how you can get rid of aluminium in the body?
Can you tell me what effect aluminium has in the body?
Can you tell me what the toxicity is of aluminium?
You just start scratching the surface and suddenly they won't have a leg to stand on.
They don't actually even know what you're talking about.
But then they'll get triggered and then they will mock you and just lash out and say, you are just, you're just a crazy anti-vaxxer.
You're going against science.
You know, these stupid labels that come out.
And that's the problem, whether it's the media, whether it's doctors, whether it's scientists.
There's so much hubris and arrogance, but at the same time, so much indoctrination and ignorance, it's almost impossible to reason with these people.
Well, I wanted to ask you along those lines, at what point did you realize that your pursuit of knowledge and reason was incompatible with the British medical system?
Yeah, that's a very good point.
Try and keep it short, but basically it was stepwise progression.
So when you're a junior doctor and you're chasing the dream of becoming the attendant and top dog and getting a big private practice and head of the department and, you know, you know, all that kind of stuff, you're just chase, you're a hamster in the hamster wheel.
So you're, you don't get to look at and think big picture.
You're just the hamster.
But then when I became the consultant attending, I was off the hamster wheel and started looking around me.
And I was like, oh, wow, this is what it's like when you're the boss.
Well, one, I don't have as much power and authority and autonomy as I thought I would have.
Suddenly, I'm beholden to management.
And the hospital management are very powerful.
Wow, I didn't appreciate this as a junior doctor.
Because when you're a junior doctor, you're under the attending and that's it.
You don't see above that, really.
You don't see behind the curtain.
So that was a big awakening.
And then, you know, when the management, hospital management come up to you and go, you know, remember, these aren't your patients.
You need to do things our way, not your way.
These are the hospital's patients.
You start going, wow.
Oh, didn't expect that.
And then what happened was when I became head of the department, I was now privy to going to the meetings behind the scenes.
And I realized it was all just about money and control.
And it was all double speak.
They would pretend that they were doing things for the sake of the patient when it was the complete opposite.
And everyone would be sitting around the management table, just nodding Heads and slapping themselves on the back for doing nothing.
There would be meetings where they would be discussing the agenda and the minutes of the last meeting and then planning the next meeting, and that was it.
Like nothing other than the previous meeting and the future meeting.
And it was just ridiculous.
It was just stuff like that.
Call that a self-looking ice cream cone, right?
Yeah.
And the corruption, the involvement of Freemasonry in medicine.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
Big time.
Really?
You know, all this stuff made me very, yeah, disillusioned.
And then my father's death was diagnosed with cancer was very pivotal.
So he got diagnosed with terminal cancer.
And I tried to get him all the best care.
I didn't know anything about what was going on with him.
No one seemed to answer.
And I really struggled with the medical system.
And I was shocked because here I am a consultant.
And I now was seeing what it felt like to be a patient and a patient's relative.
And it was horrendous.
It's horrendous.
They treat you so badly and they don't really care about you at all.
And when I even asked my dad's oncologist, you know, I said, on the day of his diagnosis, you know, is there anything we can do?
Is there anything we can do in this diet?
You know, there was no compassion.
There was no empathy.
She literally laughed and said, diet?
No, of course not.
He's silly.
Wow.
And there's stuff like that.
Little trip, drips.
But one day I came home and my dad was on his sofa, on my sofa, and he was up.
It was 10 o'clock at night.
I was like, what's up, dad?
And he was like, oh, I'm just in pain, you know, son.
I'm struggling to go to bed.
But listen, more importantly, what are you doing?
And I had a plate of food that just warmed up and I was about to sit down and eat.
I said, I'm just going to have my dinner now.
And he went, son, you work six days a week.
You're a busy man.
You got big practice.
I went, yeah, you must be so proud.
I went, mom, I worked hard for this.
Yeah, I'm really happy.
And he went, why, though?
You leave the house before your kids and wife wake up.
You come home after your kids are asleep and your wife's asleep.
You're overweight.
You've got bags under your eyes.
Let's be frank.
You look like shit.
You know, take it from me, I'm a dying man.
There's no point living if you're living like this.
And I swear to God, that was like a slap with a big wet fish across the face.
And I lay there in bed thinking about what he just said to me.
And he was right.
I'm type two diabetic.
I'm hypertensive.
I'm significantly overweight.
I'm exhausted all the time.
I'm tired.
I feel awful.
Why am I doing it?
And he said that.
Is it the money?
Is it the power?
Is it you want to be a big man?
What are you going to do?
You're going to take this to the grave?
And that was a wake-up call.
So I, the next day, handed in my resignation.
Really?
And I decided to, yeah, I decided that I wasn't going to work six days a week.
I was going to work three, four days a week.
And I was going to get a work-life balance.
And I was going to go to sleep on time.
I was going to reverse my type 2 diabetes and my hypertension, my fatty liver.
My wife was overweight as well.
So we started looking into things.
We discovered intermittent fasting, got rid of seed oils, fluoride in the water, started distilling our water, started eating whole foods, heavily carnivore, found a local regenerative farmer and got all our meat from there, started making things in beef tallow and, you know, all that kind of stuff.
Suddenly, I lost a ton of weight.
Suddenly, I got all the energy back.
You know, I'm hitting 50 next week and I feel better now than at any point in my life.
I reversed my type 2 diabetes, my fatty liver, my hypertension.
I'm not on any meds.
I mean, sadly, my dad hasn't been able to see this because he died three months after that conversation.
Oh, wow.
And the horrible thing is, you know, if I knew then what I know now, I would have been able to help him.
You know, I would have known about what Thomas Seafreed talks about, metabolic health, metabolic origin of cancer, metabolic ketosis, all of this kind of stuff, which I just didn't know about.
You know, here it was, my dad chowing down carbohydrates and fruit and thinking it was great for him, but it was just fueling his diabetes and fueling the cancer.
Anyway, what I'm trying to say is that so I did that.
So I got my, look, can I swear on this show, Show?
You already did.
Yeah.
All right.
I got my shit together.
I got my shit together.
Right.
And in that process, I learned more about health and what it means to have a healthy lifestyle and a healthy living than at any point in my medical schooling or my undergraduate training or as my training and experience as a doctor.
I remember sitting in a clinic with my diabetician.
And when I said to him, oh my God, am I type two diabetic?
He goes, yeah, he goes, okay, you can take metformin.
I am taking metformin.
It's a really good drug.
And he's overweight.
Wow.
His shirt top button can't be buttoned up because he's so overweight and he refuses to get a bigger shirt.
And he's got a donut on his table.
And I walk out thinking, seriously?
What?
Yeah.
I'm thinking, why am I taking medical advice from a guy like that?
And that's the truth.
Most doctors don't walk the walk.
They barely talk the talk, but they don't walk the walk.
So, you know, at this point, you know, I'm now seriously disillusioned with what I've learned in medicine.
And I've now started to apply what I've learned to my patients.
So my patients are coming with Achilles tendon problems, ankle arthritis, bunions, midfoot arthritis, fractures, you know, all that kind of stuff.
And now my consultations start with, you know, tell me about your sleep.
Tell me about your diet.
What's your stress like in your life?
Suddenly patients are telling me about their kids being bullied and their horrible bossies and all the stuff that's going on in their life and their horrible sleep patterns and their dysfunctional self-sabotage lifestyle.
Wow.
And I start spending time fixing that.
And I actually look back at that as the training ground for my podcast because I would come home with these incredible stories.
And my wife would be like, how do people tell you all this stuff?
Like, why does, don't tell me how many people cried in your clinic today?
I was like, five.
How many of them were men?
I was like, three.
I was like, wow, how'd you get, how'd you do this?
And it's because you spend time listening.
Everyone's got a story.
And this led us to the COVID era.
I'm going to shut up now.
Before we get to the COVID era, I want to comment on what you just said and ask you to expand on it because one of the things that I've learned for doing this for 25 years is that all of the answers for good health are all out there.
They all exist.
They're all readily accessible.
But people are disconnected from them, often intentionally, by the CDC or the FDA here in the U.S., by the pharmaceutical companies, by the government itself, local, state, federal government here in the U.S., your government.
It's the same thing.
I see that 99% of the health problems that people suffer from are self-inflicted.
And I'm not blaming them per se.
I'm saying that they lack the knowledge that, if applied, could resolve almost all of their issues.
You see it every day at the shopping, at the grocery store, in the shopping cart.
There's diabetes, there's cancer, there's Alzheimer's, there's dementia.
I'm looking at it.
I know the ingredients.
And it's like, you're just killing yourself, right?
I mean, not that I say that out loud to people.
I tried that.
It doesn't go over very well.
But people, well, I want your reaction to this.
Did you find that people, I mean, the good news is if it's self-inflicted, they can make a different choice.
They can change their outcomes like you did, like I did 30 years ago.
Please speak to that.
I can't disagree with any of that.
I mean, that's why I'm working on my book, Doc Malik's Simple Guide to Good Health.
And I'm not selling supplements.
I'm not selling red light therapy.
I'm not selling anything.
I'm just selling knowledge.
Because one thing I know is that 99% of what it takes to be healthy is about the choices you make.
Absolutely.
It's about discipline.
It's about responsibility, self-responsibility.
And part of the problem is, like you said, the ignorance, the knowledge of being without.
Smoothie time.
Smoothie time.
This is a choice.
This is a choice.
Every day.
Right.
And the problem is that ignorance comes not just for the common man and woman, but even the doctors don't know what's best for them.
They're totally indoctrinated.
And it's going back to that idiocracy.
You know, idiocracy in the future, you know, all the crops are dying because they're spraying like Gatorade or something.
They think water is bad.
It's for toilets.
Water's for toilets.
Remember?
Yeah, water's for toilets.
Yeah.
So it's like that.
The ignorance now is so severe that people have almost forgotten.
And you just need to look outside.
And, you know, if you are overweight, I'm not judging you.
I feel sorry for you.
And the reality is, you know, when I speak like this, I'm not looking for popularity because most people now are obese.
So I'm talking to most people.
And so what I say may offend most people.
But the reality is, if you're carrying extra weight, if your waist size is large, you're at increased risk of diabetes, insulin resistance, strokes, heart attacks, and cancer and dementia and Alzheimer's.
So, you know, they don't want you fit and healthy.
They don't want you fit and healthy for several reasons.
Because a fit, healthy, resilient, mentally and physically population is harder to govern.
That's right.
Will resist oppression and tyranny and fight back.
But a sick and dependent population is easily governable, easily manipulated, easily cajoled and controlled.
And also, they farm us.
That's why it's pharma.
Literally, they are farming us from our sickness.
If you look at, there was a brilliant table I saw infographic, kind of picture of the United States with each state and what the top employment sector was.
And in 1990, most states, it was manufacturing, then services, and then, you know, other things like healthcare.
The vast majority.
But now, 35 years later, almost all the states, the top employer revenue generator, whatever, is healthcare sector.
Which means, of course, sick care.
It's sickness management.
Absolutely.
And all empires do this.
What they do is they rape and pillage and exploit other countries, and then they come back and hollow out the host nation.
And that's what's happening to America.
They're hollowing out the parasite.
The parasite has had enough now of the rest of the world.
Now it's come back and is engorging on the US and making it, you know, desperately sick.
And the problem is, you know, is it going to kill it?
That's the problem.
You know, the problem is like in the West, in the UK, in the US, this parasite isn't like a little tick on the back of a horse.
This parasite is like a bloated pignau sitting on the back of the horse.
And it's weighing us down and it's making us sick and weak.
And that's what we have.
We have a parasite predator class draining us.
Because look, if I could figure out what it takes to be healthy and turn around all my ailments, okay, this not that bright guy.
And I teach this to my kids.
You know, my kids were five when I was teaching them this kind of stuff.
If my five-year-olds, you know, can understand what I'm telling them, can you imagine every school telling every five, six, seven-year-old what it takes to be healthy, how to look after your body, how to feed it properly, how to fuel it, how to service it, how to maintain it, how to run it optimally.
What a beautiful, healthy, resilient population you would have.
And the thing is, the fact that they're not doing that is not because they don't know.
It's not because they don't have the knowledge.
They do.
It's because they're not patriots, because they genuinely don't care about the people of their country.
They are happy to farm us and profit from our misery and sickness.
Well, that's absolutely true.
And as long as the processed Food giants and the pharmaceutical giants are dictating policy.
They still control the FDA.
They still control the CDC.
They still control RFK Jr., frankly.
I mean, he hasn't stopped mRNA injections, even though they're not backed by science at all, right?
So as long as these institutions are in control, or these, what do you call them, parasite predators of these corporations, I submit to you, and I love your reaction to this, I submit to you that Western civilization is not sustainable, meaning it will fail.
Like, you know, here we are, Trump talking about things like, well, how do we compete with the rest of the world?
Well, let's just charge them tariffs.
Let's just have tariffs on everything, even 30% on the EU, you know, 25% on our ally, Japan, 25% on South Korea, another ally, 50% on Brazil.
If that's the only way we can compete, something's wrong because we can't compete based on innovation, manufacturing, production, because our people are so sick, because we're thrust into a vortex of chronic degenerative disease that you are well aware of, that you're speaking about.
That's why we cannot compete in the world.
Until we fix the health problem, we can't solve economic problems.
That's my position.
What do you say?
Yeah, 100%.
And I would say behind big pharma and big agro and big food and big medicine actually lies the banksters.
Absolutely.
At the end of the day, follow the money.
Everything comes down to that.
Follow the money.
And the banksters are the ones that are at fault with, you know, and this is what I mean, the big picture.
I keep like figuring out, trying to figure out where is this problem?
Where is the problem in the medical licensing boards?
Well, yes, it is, but it's actually bigger than that.
Is it in the judiciary?
Is it our political system?
Yes, yes, yes, but it's one layer even above that.
Then, you know, we don't actually have a political system.
They're beholden to hire people.
You know, who's the deep state?
The civil servant class?
Who do they serve?
They're forever behind the scenes of the politicians.
Who do they serve?
And then, you know, where does it go?
And it all leads to the money flow.
And, you know, the root of all evil is the love of money.
And the problem is we have a system of fiat money, usury, this interest, this worthless piece of paper that we get charged interest to use and that we get taxed on as well.
You know, this is the fundamental driving force.
And they just want more and more of it and at any expense.
And if it means hollowing out a country, they don't care because their allegiance isn't to America or Britain or anyone.
Their allegiance is to themselves.
They're transnational.
They're globalists.
They just care about themselves and their pocket.
And now I think we're moving on from an era of capitalism and markets and making money and consumption to an era of control and consolidation.
Because those people at the top, the predators, have got all the money now.
They can print it for free.
Like they've got the printing presses.
They don't care about that.
They have all the resources.
And now with AI and tech, they can manufacture and do all the jobs.
They don't need people anymore.
So the next part of the jigsaw puzzle is I genuinely think they would love to depopulate the earth because they just don't need us anymore.
And if you even just listen to the way they talk and the big figures, they, you know, the mouth eaters, you know, we're just useless eaters.
We just, we've got no purpose, we've no meaning.
So let's just get them sick and die early and, you know, eventually infertile.
And it's not even that.
Like in the UK, I don't know if you know, but about a month ago or three, four weeks ago, they passed two major pieces of legislation.
Do you know anything about that?
Was one of them the anti-hate speech legislation?
What are you referring to?
I thought there was a big censorship law that went in.
No, no.
So basically, they have legalized full-term abortion.
Oh, oh, whoa, no, I didn't know that.
So if you're a viable fetus, it doesn't matter.
Even at full term, you can be aborted.
It's fine.
And the next thing is the euthanasia.
You know, the thing that goes on in Canada?
So the medical euthanasia thing.
So, you know what, if you're suffering from a bit of depression, you find yourself in debt, you know, blah, blah, blah, all that kind of stuff.
Oh, don't worry.
We care because we care, because your suffering will help end your life.
You know, I mean, I'm not saying it's got that, it's got to that point now in the UK, but it's got to that into Canada.
That's where it is in Canada.
And that's where it will go to in the UK.
So what I'm saying is they're now attacking the human being in the womb before they're even born.
And they're also attacking you at the other end just before you die.
And they want to speed you along.
Because again, fundamentally, these people are anti-human.
And it's an attack on humanity.
And, you know, I wrote a substack piece on the abortion issue.
You know, God, there's so many topics to be on top of.
And I have to admit, you know, this wasn't really on my radar until a few weeks ago.
And I got really upset about it.
You know, I've got three young babies.
That's why I'm doing what I'm doing.
You ask me, you know, about being brave.
I don't think I'm brave.
I'm just doing, I'm a honey badger and I don't give a shit.
I'm fighting for my kids.
What I don't get is why other people aren't honey badgers fighting for their kids.
So anyway, you know, when I read about the abortion thing, I was absolutely flabbergasted and disgusted.
And you know what?
Look, I'm coming from a position where I just believe in God.
I'm not religious.
I gave up religion 20 years ago and I just believe in God, but I do believe in a maker and a creator.
And I believe that we are all divine beings, you know, from God.
And life starts at conception.
And I didn't realize 250,000 babies were being murdered every year in the UK and over a million in America.
Wow.
And while I'm not against all abortion, you know, if the mother's Life is in jeopardy.
I get it.
I get it.
But this notion of, you know, my body, my choice, well, no, it is your body, but within your body is another body.
Okay.
That's another body inside you.
And we are meant to judge a civilization by how they treat their most vulnerable.
That's right.
Well, if the unborn fetus isn't the most vulnerable of us, I don't know who is.
You know, we do Pride Month because they're apparently disadvantaged and they're vulnerable and they're minority.
And, you know, we need to protect them and promote them.
You know, we do all of this kind of stuff.
But, you know, the unborn fetus, well, you know, we're now doing industrial scale mass murder and slaughter of babies that would make the Incas and Mayans and Babylonians look like child's play.
Well, yeah, absolutely.
And as proof that that is a unique individual that is inside the woman's body is the fact that the genetics of that unborn baby are different from the mother.
They're not the same.
And they are unique in the world.
There's no other individual, unless it's a twin or twins, that has the same genetics.
So yes, it's a unique individual.
He or she is a unique individual.
I want to show you something here.
I was looking for this while you were talking.
This gets to one of your earlier points about the economy.
I did this cartoon.
I used to do a cartoon series called Counterthink.
Let's put it on the screen.
I want to show you this.
The mayor is announcing business is booming.
And what's the business?
Oh, Chemco, McJunks, Fast Food, No Mercy Hospital, Cancer Center, and Funeral Home.
Wow, the economy's booming.
The GDP is up.
You were just talking about this.
And if you look here, the year of this, 2006, you can barely read it.
I did this cartoon in 2006.
I did a whole series in 2005 through 2009 that was calling out pharma, the FDA, the vaccine industry, in a time when 99% of Americans thought vaccines were awesome.
I want to acknowledge that.
I want to just say something to you.
Mike, I really want to thank people like you.
People like you, Sherry Tempenny, people like Suzanne Humphries, Roman Bistrianik, all of you folks who, and more, even goes back even further, who for so many years, if not decades, have been fighting this fight.
Listen, I'm late to the party, and I just want to acknowledge that.
I know, and I don't know everything.
And I'm just trying my best.
I'm trying to catch up.
And I just want to say thank you for everything you've been doing.
That picture is amazing.
Well, I want to say thank you because it was very lonely to be just one of a very small number of voices in the wilderness when all of society was completely brainwashed into thinking that, oh, the FDA loves us and the drug companies want cures.
They want to resolve health issues.
That's why they spend money on research.
You know, well, at least that's over.
That's done.
COVID woke up so many people to the truth about this that now my voice is even drowned out by so many others and I welcome that because now it's a chorus of people questioning this system.
But this brings me to my question, Doc, which is, you know, the Western medical system, just like the Western financial system, is really only kept propped up by faith, not by reason.
And that faith is collapsing rapidly.
So what do you suppose comes next?
I mean, the UK medical system is not sustainable.
The U.S. medical system, not sustainable, can't afford it.
You know, you can't spend 25% of GDP on taking care of sick people.
At some point, you got to show people how to be healthy.
We know, you and I, we know.
Like, if they made you the equivalent surgeon general of the U.K. and they made me the surgeon general of the U.S., we could tell 99% of the people how to get healthy in less than a year.
Easy.
Oh, dude.
Give me a week.
But I won't because I don't have a wearables company.
Do you?
No, no, no.
I have a swearables device that curses from time to time.
But no, but see, that's my point.
This system will collapse.
But what's next, in your view?
Where does it go from here?
Yeah, it's a really good point.
So, look, all of us, every single human being right now is in a relationship with an abusive government.
You know, if you're in a relationship with an abusive person and you keep going back to them, they beat you up.
And we've all seen it.
Anyone who's been on the planet long enough will have seen someone, a couple having an altercation on the street, or you've heard of someone, one of your friends, who gets beat up or the partner cheats on them.
And they go back and you go, what?
What?
That's that abused person who has such poor self-worth and has forgotten who they are and the strength that's within them.
They keep going back to that abuser.
Well, we're like that.
The government is the biggest abuser.
And we keep going back to the government.
They are simply a legalized criminal outfit.
That's all it is.
And they have their heavies, and they have their enforcement.
They are not here to protect us.
They don't do anything for our good.
They serve other masters, including themselves.
But most human beings allow the government to abuse them.
Oh, they're taxes gone up.
Oh, okay.
Oh, they've locked us down.
Oh, okay.
Oh, we have to take an experimental shot to work.
Okay.
So we empower them.
Overnight, everything could be fixed if there was a global mass awakening and raising of consciousness.
If we all Realized the true innate, sovereign, spiritual, eternal beings of light, energy, and divine that we are, everything would fall apart.
When the government says, We're raising taxes and we want you to take these experimental shots, you know, we would say, you know, in Battlestar Galactica terminology, frack you.
And you know what?
Nothing would happen.
You know, their drivers would stop driving them.
Their cooks would stop cooking for them.
The journalists would pick up the phone when they wanted to write a hit piece on someone.
You know, the police would say, no, we're not going to lock anybody up.
You're on your own.
These people would be in their yachts without any crew.
They'd be in their castles without any staff.
They'd be helpless.
But we enable them.
Absolutely.
100%.
And I want to mention it's fear and war that are used to distract people from the true nature of the love and the creative power that is within each and every one of us because we are children of God.
And war is the tool of the criminal cabal governments that you and I are both talking about here.
And I want to point out it was your country's own Boris Johnson in 2022 that convinced Zelensky to go to war instead of negotiating a peace agreement with Russia.
We've been at war ever since.
Over a million Ukrainian men have been killed in the process.
Who knows how many Russian men have been killed?
We're still in this war.
Trump is announcing more weapons for Ukraine.
You have now never here Kir Starmer, who is also completely insane, in my opinion, an absolute war-mongering serpent lunatic of history.
And we are literally, you and I are living, in our audience, we are living under the claimed rule of lunatics who love blood and ritualistic sacrifice of millions of human beings so they can gain power.
Am I wrong?
Bingo.
And also, I think his name would be better if it's Kir Stalin.
Kier Stalin.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah.
Or Khmer Starmer.
I'm not sure which one.
But basically, let's go back to your original question.
Like, what happens next?
Okay.
Like, isn't it just going to fall apart?
All the sickness and health.
Look, these bad people in charge have been in charge for a long time.
Some could argue, more than decades, centuries, maybe even millennia, maybe back to the Babylonian era.
Who knows?
I don't know.
I don't know.
But a long, long time.
And this is what human beings struggle with because, you know, we struggle with like planning a week ahead of us.
What are we going to do next week?
Never mind planning, you know, generations ahead.
Like that's incomprehensible to the average human being.
But they do.
This is how they work.
And they know that their systems will eventually come to a failure point.
So they engineer a revolution, a war, a cataclysmic event to reset the board, to reset the deck of cards, the chips and the table or whatever it is, and start a game.
And they're very good at it.
So that might happen.
And that's probably because of, you know, past performance is a good indicator of future performance.
You know, global war, pestilence, whatever.
Because of the technology, it might be a cyber attack.
God knows.
But something will happen that will radically change the face of the earth and they're still on top.
It might be that they actually bring it down themselves because ultimately we are all mirrors of each other.
They are a reflection of us and we are a reflection of them.
If they are dumbing down humanity, they're also actually dumbing down themselves.
And in many ways, they really are dumb.
And they have so much hubris and arrogance.
They are dumb as hell.
Maybe the whole thing just collapses.
But there is a third option is that, you know what, somehow, magically, humanity breaks out of this perpetual cycle, you know, boom-bust, and says no and stops this generational trauma that keeps inflicting us.
Well, I'm hoping for that third option, but I wanted to ask you about your beliefs of the rise of AI robots, the replacement of human cognition with AI agents, the replacement of human labor with the coming wave of AI robots and automation in labor industries,
and whether you believe that there is a global depopulation agenda that is being engineered in order to make way for the rise of replacement of humans.
Yeah, I'll start with the last one.
I think there really is.
I think they don't want as many of us.
They don't, because they don't need that many of us anymore.
And they don't like us.
They're fundamentally anti-human, even though they are human.
Well, some would question that.
So I think they do.
They do want less of us.
They keep saying it.
I mean, the carbon they want to reduce is really us.
Okay.
With regards to AI, look, I don't really know.
Some people think that AI was powerful 50 years ago, and we actually have no comprehension of how advanced AI now is.
I don't even know if it is intelligent.
You know, even if they say it is, it's mimics, it copies.
I know some people say it creates as well, so it can be creative.
But it's always going to be a copy of reality and nature and us, because nature and everything that's natural is a reflection of God.
And AI is a creature of man.
It's not God.
So am I threatened and worried about it?
Will it overtake humanity?
I don't think so.
But am I worried that it's going to be used as a tool and a weapon by the wrong people?
Yeah, like I'm not scared of guns.
I love guns.
I'm a member of a firearm club.
It's fantastic.
It's who wields the gun that's scary.
So AI could be used to help humanity, liberate us from mundane tasks and free up people.
Like the biggest con is being sold this idea that you work 40 hours a week for 48 years so that you have 40 weeks of retirement on this bullshit pay and you end up in a care home, dribbling and incontinent.
You know, what is that?
What is that?
You know, that's a con.
You know, we should be working.
We should be working three days a week.
And this idea that in the past, centuries ago, people were working so hard and never got any free time and they were serfs.
Not really, actually.
They had a good life.
They had plenty of downtime.
They didn't work day and night.
There was time.
How do you think they made all these beautiful medieval castles and sorry, churches and stuff in Europe?
Like, you know, if they're all working their socks off during the day, how did they have time to do that?
And those were collaborative efforts by the communities, by the way.
Because they didn't have iPhones, so they weren't distracted.
They could just focus on creating masterpieces of music and art.
They weren't working anywhere near like we are.
And the feminism was a lie to get women working just as hard as men and then using both salaries to pay for your mortgage and house and the bills.
I mean, don't get me wrong, I believe in women having equal rights and equal opportunities.
But I think feminism went way too far and it actually entrapped women and made them sex objects for men, to be honest, to be abused and so much more.
But basically, what I'm trying to say is man and women have now been convinced into working day and night to feed the system.
When actually we don't need to be.
We need to spend time with our children, see our children grow up, spend time with our grandchildren, live our life.
And AI has the potential to do that, like to take away all these tasks so that we work less and we are more productive.
Technology is a good thing, but also a bad thing.
It depends how you use it and who's using it.
See, I like your take on that.
And I hear from a lot of people in America that all AI is just evil and demonic and it must be banished, et cetera.
But we built an AI engine and it saves me a tremendous amount of time.
I can conduct research using AI in five minutes that used to take 50 hours.
There you go.
Right.
And so I'm producing documentaries on things like DMSO that I could never have done before.
But it's exactly what you said, Doc.
It's that it's how we use technology.
Either if we take charge and we use it to amplify and multiply our intelligence, our intention, then technology is working for us.
We are the masters of the technology.
But if we become slaves to the technology and we allow it to set our boundaries and limits and we allow it to take over our lives, well, then that's our fault.
You know?
Yeah.
I mean, exactly.
We have to make a choice.
This is technology.
I mean, even though my bandwidth might have been a bit low, you know, we're having a conversation.
You know, I'm in the UK.
You know, it's incredible we're even able to do this.
True.
This is technology and it's wonderful.
I mean, the reason why I'm wearing these blue blocker glasses is it's quite dark now and the studio lights are quite bright, so I don't want it to disturb my circadian rhythm.
But, you know, there's a significant time difference and distance between us.
And look, we're having this conversation.
It's incredible.
Yeah, it is.
So all tech isn't bad.
It's how you wield it.
Well, and even without tech, think about this.
Most people still subject themselves as slaves to their doctor, right?
So, I mean, they will say, doctor, you heal me, you cure me, you tell me what's wrong, you measure my biometrics, right?
I'm like, no, you should be paying attention to your own body.
You should know what your pulse feels like.
You should know what your digestion system is doing.
How do you not know about the body in which you live?
I mean, I don't know.
I mean, maybe it sounds judgmental, but I'm like, I'm shocked that people are so dissociated from their own biology.
No, you're not saying anything severe.
Listen, listen, I always say to people, what's the most valuable thing in your possession?
And they come up with my phone, my jewelry, my car, my this, my that.
And I go, it's actually your body.
I said, all right, take the car.
You said your car is the most valuable thing, right?
So you service it, you regularly service it, you put the best fuel in it, you wash it, you clean it, you dry it, you look after it.
Do you drive around and bump it and scrape it?
No, of course you don't.
But say if something does happen, at least you can take it to the garage and get it fixed.
I went, guess what?
You can't do that to the body.
Imagine you put, instead of petrol gas, you guys call it gasoline inside your car.
Imagine you put a gallon of orange juice in it.
Would it run?
What about milk?
What about milk?
What about even just clean water?
You'd break your car.
And I said, just to just look at how incredible your body is that God designed for you.
That you can put all this garbage inside it.
And you know what?
It still runs.
It still moves.
It still thinks.
It's actually astonishing.
And if you look at food, you know, like you just need to walk through the airport to see the alchemy that takes place.
You've got your burritos, your Texan food, your Mexican food, your fast food, burger joints.
And it's alchemy.
And what do I mean by that?
Because they're using the same essential ingredients.
They've got fructose corn syrup in there, ultra-processed glyphosate enriched wheat, you know, with glyphosate enriched wheat.
Yeah, you know, like niacin and iron.
They add all of this stuff.
It's got glyphosate sprayed on it.
It's all garbage, right?
Doctorate processed.
I apologize.
We got to wrap this up.
We're almost out of time.
I know, but what I'm just trying to say is all that stuff that we eat and consume and we still run.
I know.
It's amazing.
It is amazing.
The body has so much incredible wisdom and detoxification potential built in.
So let me give out your website again.
It's Doc Malik, M-A-L-I-K.
DocMalik.com is the main website.
And there you can get all of Doc's links to interviews and channels and social media, etc.
And consultations and consultations.
Oh, and consultations.
Yeah, here we go.
Look at that.
Okay.
Very cool.
And that's anybody in the world can contact you for a consultation?
Yep, anywhere in the world.
Okay, awesome.
Fantastic.
Well, thank you, Doc.
It's an honor to have you on.
I greatly appreciate your work.
I consider you a fellow warrior of truth among all of us human beings.
And thank you for all that you do.
Thank you so much.
Really appreciate it.
Thanks for inviting me on.
Absolutely.
Well, enjoy the rest of your late evening there in the UK.
And I look forward to seeing your videos soon on social media and elsewhere.
And thank all of you for watching today.
This has been a fantastic interview here on Brighteon.com.
But feel free to share this.
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