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July 7, 2025 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Steven and Jana Bennun detail astonishing accusations of WRONGFUL DEATH against Carrie Madej
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Welcome to today's interview.
I'm Mike Adams of Brighteon.com.
And today, we bring you a very important story, also a little bit, well, very disturbing in many ways.
And we are joined by returning guests, Stephen and Jana Ben Noon.
And Stephen and his wife are the publishers of IsraelinewsLive.org.
And I just want to welcome you both back to the show today.
Thank you, Mike.
Thank you, Mike.
It's a pleasure.
Thank you so much.
And as a Texan, by the way, Yana, I'm very happy that you're wearing the Texas star on your blouse today.
Yeah, it's very nice.
Thank you.
And we love Texas.
It's such a great state.
And interestingly, today's story is really not about Israel.
This is about something else.
This is about COVID and COVID treatments.
And we published a story at Natural News based on a court document.
The court document is a judgment against Kerry Medai for over $1.3 million in a civil suit that I understand that both of you brought a wrongful death civil suit involving Kerry Medai administering hydrogen peroxide and perhaps some other things that your lawsuit claims resulted in a wrongful death.
So that's the topic today.
Can you bring our audience up to speed, please?
What led to this?
Sure.
Well, on December 5th, 5th of December, 2021, Kerima and I came to our residence in Tennessee.
We were sick, that's true.
My father and I, we had fevers and we were in bed and that was a flu that whole family had, but my children were recovered already and Steve was recovered.
So I was still sick and my dad was sick and she, you know, I was in contact with her through texts and told her that I'm sick because she was supposed to come to our house.
And I kind of suggested she should perhaps stay away so not to get sick.
But she insisted that she has treatments for us that will strengthen our immune system and she would like to come and help us.
So after initially trying to deter her, I actually gave in and I said, okay, well, thank you.
And then she came in and I was in bed on one side of the house and she was, my dad was in bed on the other side of the house and she administered infusions and there were several.
I mean she administered some antibiotics and then she administered hydrogen peroxide.
And at the time I did not ask her about hydrogen peroxide specifically because I was familiar with the fact that naturopathic doctors and clinics are administering hydrogen peroxide.
So I assumed that since she is a medical doctor, she knows what she's doing.
So I didn't challenge her at all.
Well, it ended up being an overdose by 84 times stronger that's allowed.
And it was also a wrong kind of peroxide, meaning she did not get it through the pharmacy, compounding pharmacy, but she bought food grade peroxide, I think somewhere online or in a store, and she administered a food grade peroxide, 21 milliliters in 500 milliliters of dextrose into my veins, my father's veins, and into my husband's veins.
And after that, she also nebulized my dad, only my dad, with 2 milliliters of peroxide mixed with 0.5 milliliters of water.
That's what she claimed.
And then she prescribed this particular protocol for five more times.
And then she kind of quickly wanted to leave our home.
We were very surprised that she wanted to leave that quickly because usually she would stay overnight.
So before she came, my husband even prepared her bed.
And we were very surprised that she just insisted she needs to leave after she administered those treatments and she left.
Well, within the next 24 to 48 hours, our situation, mine and my father's, deteriorated so badly that I frantically called her.
She would not pick up the phone, but I would text her several text messages and demanded that she comes back because something is extremely wrong.
And she refused to come back.
It was not until one month later or maybe two months later that I kind of found out that what was wrong with us and my dad was actual dosage of peroxide and type of peroxide that she administered.
And it was again 21 milliliters of 3% food grade hydrogen peroxide mixed with 500 milliliters of dextrose.
And we had a very educated doctor of pharmacy to look at this protocol.
We interviewed her and she looked at the entire protocol and examined it and did mathematical calculations.
And she claimed Dr. Madei has administered 84 times stronger peroxide than allowed in medical clinics.
Can you tell Mike though what protocol that she used to verify those numbers?
There is a particular man that actually started the protocol.
Well you know I don't really remember the Dr. Liz Thompson who is a doctor of pharmacy she referenced a certain physician Who was an advocate for hydrogen peroxide therapy?
And he came up with a very specific protocol that's allowed in human veins and specific type.
It has to be pharmaceutical grade, it has to be mixed by pharmacy and ordered by pharmacy.
The patient has to be examined.
Usually you need a blood test for kidney function and liver function, and it has to have a really good reason why you're using hydrogen peroxide.
An original protocol that's kind of allowed, and even that is disputed now, and kind of everybody shies away from even using it, is one milliliter to 100 milliliter of some sort of solution, either saline or dextrose.
So the maximum allowed would be five milliliters of pharmaceutical grade of peroxide into 500 milliliters of saline or dextrose.
and she used 21 milliliters instead of five.
So we had my father eventually, I'll let you ask questions.
Okay, so what you're saying is that this is 84 times higher dosage of hydrogen peroxide based on the 21 mils that were administered in the dextrose solution plus the strength of hydrogen peroxide.
I just want to say for our audience that hydrogen peroxide is a very strong, powerful oxidizer.
It's used in rocket fuel at higher concentrations.
Okay.
I mean, it and if you were to touch hydrogen peroxide like 70%, it would burn your skin off in seconds.
So I'm guessing, but you tell me if this is correct.
I'm guessing that this rapidly oxidized red blood cells in the blood.
Yes, Mike, that's exactly what's happening when you inject or infuse this kind of strong peroxide.
And what my father died of was hemolysis.
So he died about three weeks later because she prescribed it for five more times.
And my father was transferred to the state of Florida.
It's a little bit deeper story than what I can actually speak now because there is a separate lawsuit in Florida.
There are two more doctors involved who, after my father, his condition deteriorated.
First of all, even in nebulizer, you are supposed to use saline according to proper formula.
You have to have saline to prevent any kind of burn.
And you have to have kind of more water in a saline than what you have peroxide.
But imagine she used two milliliters, right, of hydrogen peroxide and 0.5 milliliters of water, which is almost no water at all.
What happened, and maybe because my father was also older, elderly, he developed a major burns in his epithelium of the mouth, throat, and entire lungs, lung tissue.
And so when we didn't know at the time what happened to him, like we were very confused, like why such deterioration of he couldn't swallow even a pill or a sip of water.
So he got extremely dehydrated.
So he was transferred to Florida to a licensed medical clinic.
And I will not name names over there for your protection at this time.
But yes, these were two doctors from the same movement, you know, the doctors who were actually telling us not to go to hospital.
And we trusted it because we have invited them to our platform in 2020 and we were warning people not to go to hospitals too because of the hospital protocols of Remdesivir.
And we were very concerned and trusted these people.
So they told us, do not put your dad to hospital.
And we didn't want to.
We knew what's happening at the time.
So we transferred him to their clinic and they looked at the prescription of Carimade.
They were shown exactly what she administered.
And these doctors continued her prescription as she prescribed five more times.
And sadly, one of the doctors there, Mike, actually had used peroxide protocol before, but she did not go and look at the other.
I want to mention one thing if I can, though.
Dr. Calitas, a very good friend of mine that knew my father-in-law very personally.
And I had, right after he had passed away, I reached out to him.
At that time, we did not know that the IV peroxide was 84 times higher.
So I talked to Dr. Calitas and I shared with him the nebulizing formula that she was given.
Now, oddly enough, even though Dr. Liz had confirmed these higher multiplications and formula, Dr. Calitas, when he heard what had been nebulized with this, he told me, he said, Stephen, he said, it would have burned not just his tongue, his epithelium, his lungs.
He said, and Stefan, he named something that he knew about my father-in-law's case as far as medically.
And he said, for him, that's a death blow.
He said, Steve, he would never survive.
He said, this is the worst thing that could have ever been done.
And without saline to make the, he said, he said, he told me, he said, when we do nebulization, he said, I take an IV bag, inject the pharmaceutical grade peroxide in there, and then draw from that, and that is put into a nebulizer.
Which displaying that.
Right.
And he even mentioned on that, I think he said on the this is nebulizing now, not to confuse that from the 84 times higher in the IV bag, but he said the nebulization formula was 80 times stronger than he has ever used in his practice in his life.
And he said, with his condition, which he was in great health, it wasn't he had bad health.
I forget what that was that he had mentioned, though.
He said he wouldn't be able to survive.
All right.
So your contention, then, is that Karymade, and this is in your lawsuit as well, that Karymidi engaged in essentially a form of medical malpractice with using deadly concentrations of substances that would otherwise be therapeutic at lower concentrations.
Well, Mike, I don't know at this point after everything, three years of research and dealing with this, if I would ever use that particular protocol.
It's not approved by mainstream medicine.
I just want to make it very clear that mainstream medicine does not approve of this.
However, if you go and Google, just basic Google, right, just put in hydrogen peroxide intravenously clinics, just put that, and you will have enormous amounts of clinics throughout the United States that are using pharmaceutical-grade hydrogen peroxide formulas in IVs for different kinds of conditions.
And that's why I had to go into deep research of what the dosages are.
And I was shocked to see that Dr. Made used such strong and incorrect form of peroxide.
How could she not know as a medical doctor?
Let me just throw this one in there with that.
After this was all over and done, and Jana was doing the research, Mike, she comes across an interview that Carrie had done with Dr. Christine Northrup and her together.
This was only, what was it, two months before coming to our house.
And she gets, they're talking about different therapies that could be done for COVID.
And she says, well, peroxide is one that I am using now.
So she asked Dr. Mohafi, excuse me, Dr. Medea, excuse me, Carrie, Carrie Modet.
She asked her, she says, what is your protocol?
And she says, five to six mils to a 500 mil bag is what I would use.
And so even two months before, she's giving this formula.
And it's not just that Carrie gave the formula, she gave it her house, 21 mils, and just wrote it in a text, which, by the way, she wrote in two separate texts because I remember sharing it with Dr. Tempani one day.
We were talking about it privately.
And Dr. Tempani was just flabbergasted.
She's like, Stephen, maybe it was a typo.
And I said, Sherry, I sent her a second text to Yana's phone.
It was written differently, so it wasn't copied and paste.
One was like longhand for me, so I'd understand what she's talking about.
With Yana, she just give it in the medical formula.
And I said, it's not.
And Sherry goes, oh my gosh, she says, Steve, we have a saying, you know, the poison is in the dosage.
She said, that's poison.
And so anyway, she says that though with Dr. Northrup, but then she comes.
Not only does she write these prescriptions there, but I'm sitting at the table as she's making Yana's IV bag.
And Carrie, you know, we really, we considered Carrie a friend.
You know, Mike, I mean, she'd been to our home many times.
We'd been to her home when she was living in Georgia.
You know, so we'd gotten to know her fairly well, at least we thought we did.
And we really considered her a friend.
But now she's taken in this syringe.
It's a 20 milliliter syringe.
She's drawing from this bottle of peroxide, which said food grade hydrogen peroxide, 3% on the bottle.
And as she's drawing out of it, she said, now, in order to get 21 milliliters, you've got to pull it just past there, a little bit more, so you know you got 21.
And then she puts it into the IV bag and then proceeds to go to my wife's room and connects her to the IV.
And I watched her.
She did that.
She did my father-in-law.
And then she hooked me up.
I was the last one to be hooked up to it.
I do have, it's been documented by my heart doctor, which I didn't have a heart doctor before this, but I got severe, I don't know what you call it.
Venus insufficiencies behind.
My legs would just swell and still do because the blood doesn't come back up now like it used to.
And I've never had this problem in my life.
So you said you were friends with Carrie Medet.
And for the record, I interviewed her several years ago also.
Haven't spoken with her since that interview.
But I do want to say I will invite her to respond to all of this.
But we need to talk about the court case, because as I understand it from reading the judge's decision, you filed suit.
I think it was in Tennessee, correct?
Yes.
And then she refused to defend herself in the court system.
And ultimately, there was a default judgment against her because she just didn't show up.
Is that correct?
Yes, Mike.
Let me kind of clear up how this happened.
So after my father's death, and of course I'm not talking about situation in Florida because there is another lawsuit there.
But what happened after we filed lawsuit, when as soon as I found out from several practitioners and by my own research that she has basically killed my dad with those dosages,
we had my father exhumed on our expense and we had him forensically examined With the best of the best forensic examiner in the state of Florida.
And we gave him all of the information from Made and from Florida, what has been given to my dad.
And he has done unbiased third-party investigation and examination on my dad.
And he concluded that his death is a homicide.
Wow.
And we have, of course, we have this forensic statement.
Second pathologist as well as another renowned pathologist has reviewed it, all the information, come to the same conclusion as the doctor did there.
And I want to say, Mike, when we first approached him, this is Dr. Schultz.
He's a 40-year, he's also a former surgeon.
He has got one of the best reputations in the country.
And he had, he said, originally he refused to do the autopsy.
And then Dr. Mohafi, the name I mentioned earlier, a good friend of ours, she reached out to him and she described to him all the details of what happened.
And then he even said this to me.
He said, I was not going to take your case.
He said, because quite frankly, he said it seemed unrealistic.
He said, who would have, he said, what doctor in their right mind, whether they even know the protocol or not, would ever administer such a high dosage?
He said, I really just, he said, I couldn't fathom that this could really happen.
And then, of course, when he did the autopsy, not only did he find all the evidence that was supported of it, he also discovered, and this was probably the most heartbreaking thing for my wife to take, and it's even hard to even say it now, because my wife always believed her father would live for a long time.
He was in amazing condition.
I mean, the man could outdo anything.
He was moving pianos up into his late 70s, right?
But he had taken, when he did the autopsy, he said he was in phenomenal condition.
Yes.
So let me go back to, because you gave a specific question, Mike, and it's such a tragic story with so many details.
It's hard to keep on track.
So when we had proof that she really did what she did, we filed a lawsuit.
And what happened was that as soon as she learned that we filed a lawsuit, she gave up her medical license voluntarily.
And why did she do that?
Well, we, of course, contacted Georgia Medical Board and told them what happened.
And they started investigation on Dr. Kerry Madei.
And she was invited.
You know how they do investigation and they write them a letter and they have to come for interview.
Well, she already knew she's on the investigation.
So what she did immediately, which was kind of smart on her part, she gave up her medical license voluntarily.
And the Georgia Medical Board called me and said, we are so sorry she tied our hands.
We can't proceed with investigation.
She just voluntarily gave up her license.
So there's nothing we can even do.
So the Georgia Medical Board then no longer had any jurisdictional control.
Exactly, because that's all they can do.
They only have a licensing kind of like, they can only overlook licensing of doctors, right?
And they were investigating her over this, but because she just, you know, gave up her license voluntarily, that shocked the world.
That even shocked Dr. Tempani and all of her colleagues, because you know how doctors work so hard to keep their medical licenses.
And what was actually very, very strange, when Kerry Made came to our house maybe three months prior, she was speaking about her medical license that she has to go for interview and pay for it in the month of October or November.
And she said that she's so afraid because, you know, she's speaking out against vaccines.
And so we prayed for her that her licensing will go well.
And I actually have a text message from her.
I said, how did it go?
We prayed for you.
Did you make it?
And she says, oh yeah, everything is fine.
I got my license.
Like it will continue.
So, and then she suddenly just gives it up.
And then she told the world that she did it because she became a sovereign citizen and that she doesn't want authorities dictating to her how she's going to treat her patients.
And unfortunately, Kerry Made has some sort of supernatural ability to persuade even her colleagues and everybody that what she says is true.
So for her to give up her medical license is, yeah, it's a huge deal because immediately you give up a tremendous amount of, you know, financial potential as a doctor.
But it also, I have to ask this question, what about malpractice insurance?
Most doctors would carry malpractice insurance.
Did you investigate that or try to first of all?
I want to make it so clear for anybody listening that we don't care about her money.
At this point, I cared about justice for my dad and for accountability and for safety of the public.
And especially justice for my father, because I feel like his blood is crying out for justice.
And of course, I suffered PTSD and major psychological damage and my own health damage from this whole experience.
So justice is what is very important to me in this and accountability.
And I have invited her by email, of course.
I had invited Her and tried to tell her, look, look, let's talk about this.
What happened?
Why did you use that kind of protocol?
And where did you get the number 21 from?
Well, of course, Kerry did not want to engage anymore with us.
And she basically just gave up her license, right, and went on to her life as if nothing ever happened.
And she's ignoring it to this day.
So we proceeded with our lawsuit, and she had, she was served to come and show up in court.
And the only people that were there was my family.
She never showed up.
And Judge even waited extra, right?
He gave us like 15, 20 minutes extra or was it a full half hour?
Half hour.
Yeah, Judge.
To see if she would actually show.
Yeah, Judge said, well, let me, you know, if you don't mind waiting, because let me see if she's just stuck in a traffic or something.
So my lawyer requested 12-member jury, and we wanted her to explain herself and to bring any kind of supporting evidence that her protocols are valid in any way.
And why would she even do such a thing to my family?
So she never showed up in a whole proceedings, not one time.
But she did write a letter to my lawyer.
And she said that she is Carrie Lynn Madei of the Lin, no, she's Kerry of the lineage of Madai, daughter of God of Abraham, Jacob, and Isaac.
Yes, that's the letter.
I can actually send you that letter.
We have that letter.
But she's going like Old Testament biblical stuff here now.
Yes.
Why?
And so that's what she wrote to our attorney, that she is daughter of God and daughter of Abraham, Jacob, Isaac.
And basically, the whole letter basically states that that's not her identity and that this will be her last letter ever to my lawyer and that she's not involved in this and that her identity is daughter of God.
And basically she, I would say it plainly, she gave middle finger to the whole proceedings, the whole judicial process.
So I didn't know what to do at this point.
I didn't even know such a thing is even possible.
Well, of course, my lawyer investigated.
She had no medical malpractice, but he still took a case.
And as my lawyer said, I took a case because it's just wrong what she's doing.
It's just wrong.
Well, and I'm sure you're finding out that even though you have a judgment against her, it doesn't mean that that judgment is automatically enforced.
Right.
That's true.
And we realize, like my wife said, you know, as far as the money part, we realize that we would probably never collect.
Even the attorney said that when he started, he said, look, he said, I realize you're probably never going to collect anything.
He said, but it is the principle of the issue.
And he said, it's the most egregious act I have ever seen in all my years of practice of medical.
And, you know, and clearly, even as the pathologist has said, homicide, which that actually falls under the jurisdiction of Florida, even Kerry falls under that jurisdiction too.
Yes.
So homicide, I'm sorry to interrupt, but homicide would be in a completely different category than medical negligence.
I mean, there's in one category, there's an honest mistake, which any doctor can make an honest mistake.
And then there's a malicious mistake or even malicious intent or negligence where they should have known.
Like if a doctor conducting surgery slices open a person's carotid artery and they bleed to death, that's a homicide because they should have known the consequences of that action.
In your opinion, in which category does this action by Carrie Medet fall?
Is it a mistake?
Negligence?
What is it?
Yes.
Early on, I wanted to believe it's a mistake.
But the more I investigated and talked with professionals, just as Dr. Liz, professional pharmacist, said, there is no way this is a mistake.
I mean, the actor who is knowingly injecting you with protocol, she talks about this protocol publicly and she names the correct protocol in public and then she comes to your house and does 84 times stronger.
She knew what the right protocol was.
So the judge actually concluded, and I don't know if we sent you that particular, because there is a judge's order and then there is a final judgment.
So we sent you final judgment, but there is a judge's order in which he claims that he believes that her actions are intentional.
Now, of course, we went to the police and police did give it to a district, local district attorneys.
And I had a three-hour interview with district attorneys in Morgan County.
And I want to tell you, Mike, something that I want to tell public as well.
And I want them to know why this case is extremely tragic.
Because my husband and I were in the category of anti-voxers, because we have made videos and we interviewed many, many doctors and professionals and scientists and warned public not to get the COVID vaccine.
We are looked at by the system as the problem and guilty as well.
I had a three-hour interview with Morgan County District Attorney and he literally, how would I say it, interrogated me and for two hours they kept asking me, why am I not vaccinated?
Why is my husband not vaccinated?
What is my opinion on vaccines now after this tragedy?
Yes.
So you believe that this was the reason why they refused to pursue prosecution of Kerry Medet because of your outspoken position against vaccines?
Well, they wrote it.
They put it in writing.
They put it in writing.
Yes.
And I can send you the letter.
The decision not to prosecute was that they blame us for allowing it and for basically, you know, for allowing it.
And they said you should have taken him to hospital, not have Dr. Madei.
And, you know, of course, this is very difficult because Dr. Madei is a medical doctor and a medical clinic where he was transferred to the same type of doctors, anti-vax doctors who are very outspoken.
I don't want to name them right now.
And they continued Dr. Madei's protocol without checking on it.
They just continued it because they trusted her just as much because they're kind of like cooked up together, you know.
And now they're covering it up.
They're covering her up very much.
So may I add that even if you had taken your father to a hospital, we now know that hospitals were committing homicide through hospital protocols.
So rationally speaking, and there have been recent court decisions in favor of hospitals, even when those hospitals murdered patients, like in one case, an autistic young woman.
So it's not irrational to seek to avoid a hospital when the hospital system is actively engaged in homicide.
Yeah, and there was no reason to really take him to hospital.
I mean, if Kerry Made didn't give this strong protocol, he would just come through this little flu.
That wasn't even COVID.
We were tested for COVID.
It was negative.
So it's just that when she came and administered this poisonous treatment, this is when things went horribly wrong.
And when he was transferred to Florida, they misdiagnosed him as COVID.
You see, what Kerry Made did is 21 milliliters of hydrogen peroxide mimics COVID symptoms.
You see, my dad did not have any difficulty breathing, but after she burned his lungs, yes, he had.
So what happened, the adoptors over there, they, oh, Dr. Kerry Made is such an altruistic doctor.
She's one of us.
We trust her.
And they continued her prescription.
And they basically, my dad ended up swollen, black and blue, and dead in a hotel room.
And they handed me a dead father in a hotel room without explanation.
And then they falsified his medical records to cover her up.
And they falsified a death certificate.
That was worse, Mike.
On the death certificate, we just recently learned because I have attorneys in Florida because of my father's case when he passed through his civil case.
But anyway, the doctor who they had supposedly signed his death certificate reached out to my attorney and he said, I never signed that death certificate at all.
He said, someone, he said, look, he said, I do work for a hospice as a doctor.
He said, but I have an electronic signature.
He said, someone attached my signature and never notified me about this patient.
Basically, the doctors, in a short, the doctors in Florida are covering up this case because they know it's termed homicide and they are covering it up, Mike.
And they forged the death certificate with some other doctor's name.
Well, hold on.
I mean, that's a felony crime right there.
Yes.
Now, that's why I can't talk about this, Mike, because right now it's going into a lawsuit and police investigation.
Okay, okay.
So that's my next question is why wouldn't some law enforcement be very interested in somebody in the medical profession forging death certificates?
Right.
That's being dealt with as we speak.
As you know, the justice system in this country is a very long, drawn out.
I didn't even know what it is and I don't wish it on anybody.
Sure.
None of this.
If you think that if something happens to you and it's just quick like this, no, it's unbelievable process.
It really drains out of you your life.
So I don't wish this on anybody.
And unfortunately, Kerry Madei changed our family, history of our family and everything.
But one thing I do want to say is the district attorneys in Morgan County not only said we are guilty as well because this is our guilt.
We trusted Kerry Made, but at the same time, they refused to prosecute her while she's free to continue doing it.
And they also said in writing that the reason they won't prosecute is because Steve is a flat earther.
And it's in writing I can send you that letter.
So we were extremely confused and I was extremely confused, you know.
Because I'm not a flat earther.
He's not even a flat earther.
We have never been in flat earth.
But that's kind of a slap in the face to the people that are.
I mean, I respect to have their opinion.
If they want to be flat earthers, that's fine.
So basically, if you are.
Yeah.
Hold on.
I've said the same thing about flat earthers, that I respect the questioning of everything.
I don't share their conclusion.
I don't think the earth is flat.
However, given all the lies today, it's actually very rational to question reality.
And I've said I believe we live in a giant cosmic simulation created by God.
So I believe it's a simulation.
I mean, you know, we're all welcome to our beliefs, but that should never be a reason for law enforcement to dismiss your evidence of at least claimed, you know, homicide.
Yes.
It just seems crazy that they would put this back on you because of your beliefs about the geography of the planet.
Yes, and they did.
And it's in writing.
It's a letter that he wrote to us.
And that's exactly what his reasons are.
And we are not only shocked.
I tried to take this case to my lawyer, and he said to me that supposedly district attorneys have a immunity and some sort of they can decide whether to prosecute or not.
Well, in my logic, they can decide not to prosecute if they don't have enough evidence.
I would understand that.
But to refuse prosecution of criminal and murder and homicide because of someone's belief in flat earth, and we are not even flat earth.
It's a false accusation.
And we can't even defend ourselves.
Nobody wants to deal with these district attorneys.
And it's almost, it's a shame and it's extremely frustrating.
And we really don't know where to go from here.
Did they surmise a flat earth position based on your discussions about the Old Testament or the origins of earth or God's?
Well, he gave me a lecture, Mike.
He gave me a lecture on it.
And I thought it was funny because I'm like, we did one time we hosted a debate between Zane Garcia and Dr. Steve Pedgen, and they were both our friends.
We knew them both very well.
So we hosted it just to kind of help people out, let them make up their own mind.
But we didn't take a position one way or the other, although we were not in support of a flat earth.
We still, though, we hosted the debate.
That's the only thing you could ever even find.
But he cites, he sends to, someone else got involved in this.
He sends them a video of mine on my channel.
He said, there's the evidence of his flat Earth.
This video had over a million views.
It's nothing more but about fallen angels in Antarctica.
I did this and I did a theory, a conjecture of what I thought on that.
Nothing to do with the flat Earth.
And you even refer in a video to Axis of the Earth.
Like, it's actually anti-flat Earth video.
It's almost like, Mike, like if you're dealing with a complete insane individuals and it discredits American justice system.
Well, right.
But let me ask a follow-up question on this.
You said earlier you believe that Kerry Medet's actions were deliberate.
Yes.
So I have to ask, because you have been outspoken.
Now, both of you used to live in Israel, but on your site, IsraeliNewsLive, is that it?
IsraelinenewsLive.org.
You have also been very, very critical of the current actions of the Netanyahu regime, which I happen to agree with your assessment that he's engaged in genocide, etc.
And my understanding is that Carrie Medet is a very strong supporter of Israel.
Do you believe that that could have been a factor that she disagreed with your views and wanted to punish you?
Let me answer that.
When we were friends with Carrie Maday, we were friends with her ex-fiancé now.
And he has also alternative media platform called United Intentions Media.
And they were supposed to get married and then they broke up.
But we were friends.
All of us were friends in each other's residences.
And United Intentions Media exposed Judaism, Noahide laws as well.
We exposed it.
We were hosted by United Intentions Media and we even got an award from the United Intentions Media for being so outspoken about Noahide laws and we exposed, you know, Judeo-Christianity is complete oxymoron and Talmud and Kabbalah and everything that we are exposing.
So at the time, Carrie Made was really behaving as she's with us and on our side, that she has the same views as we have.
She even told me, Yana, you are so brave.
Like, thank you.
So never it would enter my mind that she would be in Zionistic circles.
Now, after she injected my family with that poison, she left.
And then next thing we hear that she's doing tribe talks, preaching, and it's all Old Testament-based.
She went to Israel five times.
She was in the state of Israel constantly.
And now she is on, just recently, 11 days ago, she was on Christian network speaking about how she's praying for Israel.
She is saying that she's such altruistic doctor for humanity, yet she won't even speak against a murder of these children in Gaza.
And so, yes, absolutely, Mike, in our opinion and opinion of many of our friends, she has changed like a chameleon, like she changed the coat, you know, so rapidly that I believe that she basically wanted us dead.
Can I throw something in there?
Mike asked the question first, but I do want to make a comment on this.
Okay, I'll go ahead and make the comment.
I don't remember exactly how long it was before we met Carrie Meday.
We were speaking at a conference.
Yana was speaking on Noahide Laws.
It was in Tennessee at Mark and Susan's Church near Nashville.
We were invited there, and there were two Israelis in the audience.
Their security people were a bit concerned for our safety at the time because one of them tried to keep it getting to where he could speak to me.
Eventually, he did, but they were right there the entire time.
He spoke fluent Hebrew.
I did understand him.
He could speak fluent English as well.
And then he says one thing to me.
He said, I'd like to just extend a number for you to call.
He said, because you guys are really wonderful people, but you're going down the wrong path and we want to steer you back on the right path.
And I knew what he was talking about.
So they left.
And I kept that in my mind.
But when Carrie came and she did this protocol on us, and at the time, I don't think we had yet discovered that she had talked to Dr. Northrup about it.
My wife kept saying to me, why 21 milliliters?
And then it come to my mind, Mike.
Now, this is a conjecture.
It's only my personal opinion.
I don't want to say this as fact.
I just really made me wonder.
I had done a video where I talked about the Prussian knight of the Freemason Lodge, which is the 21st degree Mason.
He is called a Noahide executioner.
And if you read the laws on the 21st degree Mason, those that break the Noahide laws are to be put to death.
And I could not help but wonder, was this a symbolic message from this 21 milliliters of peroxide?
Yes, because a lot of people ask, why 21?
Why not 10?
15, 20, 25, why 21?
Why 21?
So that's the mysterious thing about this whole thing.
And we wish we had answers.
And just like you might, I invite Kerry Made not only to make a statement, but come and face me.
And I want to ask her why.
Why did she do what she did?
Well, exactly.
And look, that's pretty spooky what you just said about 21.
But I do want to reiterate that I believe every person has the right to face their accusers.
Of course, Carrie Medea had that opportunity in court and chose not to face her accusers in the court, but maybe perhaps she has reasons for that that we are not aware of.
I want to extend an invitation for her to not only join an interview with me, but if you're up for it, both of you, I would invite her to join you and me together where I could help moderate a public conversation if both parties are open to that.
We are.
We definitely are.
Okay.
Well, then that's my official invitation to former Dr. Carrie Medet, who gave up her medical license, to join this and have a conversation.
And I also want to say, look, all doctors make mistakes.
There are many different explanations for this.
One of them that you just laid out there might be a sinister, malicious homicide intent, but another explanation could be an honest mistake that she did not want to address in a follow-up, possibly.
So, you know, it's hard for me as an observer of this, it's hard for me to reach a conclusion without getting Carrie Medet on the video and to hear it from her.
What's her take on it?
Is there anything else that you want to add in the meantime?
I mean, but look, the court judgment is very damning against Carrie Medet.
She did not show up at court.
It was concluded that it was a wrongful death.
That's the court's conclusion.
And then you said the autopsy report, which I have not seen, but you said it was conclusive, correct?
can send it to you?
Yeah, well, definitely so that if you want to edit it with this, Mike, you can because And there is a B part, of course, in Florida that I don't feel comfortable only for your own safety.
So, you know, I don't want to...
Well, hours as well, because until...
And Carrie could come up in that as well, because even the DA here, even though they were as nutty as they were, they did say one thing that if it's going to be a homicide case, it should be tried in Florida because where he passed is where he should be tried at, or the person should be tried at.
And so there's definitely some movement going in that direction there.
So, you know, I think she should have, you know, she really should have come to the court trial in Tennessee, even the civil part.
You know, we could have gotten some answers there ourself.
And then again, it could have just been a little bit worse because how do you defend something when you sit there in public and you've got a public video out there that we have preserved that video because we realize it could be taken down.
But you clearly say what your protocol is.
We actually, my doctor in Tennessee went to school with Carrie on the same protocol, mind you.
And he actually showed me what they were taught to give.
He gave us a copy of a textbook where they were taught how to give peroxide.
And he said that he knows her because he went to this schooling with her.
And he brought this book out and he said, this is the protocol.
She knows the protocol.
And he says, I even don't use it anymore because even that is dangerous.
And there is so many much safer options.
Yeah, I would.
Yeah.
Oh, I'm sorry to interrupt, but look, in my experience, obviously I'm not a medical doctor, but I am a food scientist, nutritionist, et cetera.
25 years in this space.
I would not inject hydrogen peroxide at all.
Now, nebulizing it at a very low dose, yeah, I understand that.
That can be very valuable if you have a lung infection or phlegm or whatever, even including a little bit of iodine in that, a very small amount.
But injecting hydrogen peroxide or IV seems very potentially dangerous to me.
Especially in that 21 milliliters and not pharmaceuticals.
That's a huge amount.
I just want to tell you what my father died of death of red blood cells.
That's what the conclusion is.
And all the facts and proofs that we have, even from lab work of his and the forensic autopsy.
And I just want to tell we loved our daddy.
He lived with us since my children were born.
He was love of my life.
Mike, you couldn't have had, you know, most people don't like their in-laws very well.
But Jana's father was like a father.
16 years I spent with that man, and I wouldn't trade a day for it.
Wow.
What an extraordinary man.
Well, I'm very sorry for your loss.
I'm very sorry that this has become so stressful and that you lost your father.
The reason I'm doing this interview with you is in the hopes of transparency and of healing and also a warning to people out there that even if you have a so-called health freedom doctor that comes to your home, you need to make sure that they know what they're doing because sometimes they don't.
And I've had this conversation with people.
I've had people come to me and say, hey, Health Ranger, what do you think about this protocol that was just recommended to me by somebody on YouTube?
And I read the protocol and I'm like, are you kidding me?
You know, that's suicide.
Don't do that.
I see this in the detox arena too.
I see people doing insane things and calling it a detox.
And every time they get sick, then they say, well, that's just part of the detox.
And no, you're actually just making yourself sick.
So we have to be cautious.
Yes, Mike.
And because of this experience, I signed up myself for a school for a functional nutritional practitioner where, you know, I decided I will never allow my family to be touched by any doctor, not even the ones that are anti-vaxxers, until, you know, I look at this two, three, four, five times.
We put our trust in the wrong people and now they're covering up this incident.
That's really important.
I'm glad you said that.
Just because a doctor is a, quote, anti-vaxxer doesn't mean they are qualified in everything else.
Right.
You know, so that's, yeah, that's very important.
And I also want to state here, since we did bring up Israel, and that's your website, Israeli News Live.
And I think over the years, probably all of us have been smeared dishonestly as anti-Semites for one reason or another, which is a, it's a, it's a pointless smear that's basically lost all meaning.
Now, I just, I want to say, and I think you'll agree with me on this, that we, we are pro-humanity and we have no intrinsic hatred towards people of Jewish faith, people who speak Hebrew, people who live in Israel, etc.
None whatsoever.
In fact, and if you agree with me, please say so.
But I feel like all human beings are God's children.
All human beings are divine.
And I apply that to everybody, including the children of Palestine and the people of Israel and the people who live in Iran as well.
It's universal as far as I'm concerned.
Is that something that you can resonate with?
Absolutely, Mike, because the thing is, even what happened in Israel on October the 7th, it was a tragedy.
I think it's a setup in order to justify this war, sadly enough.
That's happened over and over and over.
But I come from Jewish background to begin with.
But it took me years to wake up to recognize, you know, what was really going on.
And so that made me have a greater heart because I've always had a desire to see people, you know, for humanity in itself.
And of course, we woke up about seven, eight years ago, I guess, to what was really going on.
We've been trying to expose that ever since.
Since ISIS, basically, because we found out that ISIS was ran by Israel this entire operation.
And we were shocked.
We were shocked that this is what's happening, but we were exposing it from Israel.
And that was from IDF people that we knew that knew that there were ISIS militants wearing Tzid.
Tzitzid, and they'll not keep us officially, but they were hiding Tzitzits, their Jewish identities.
But what I want to say on this, what you said, we believe that all people are worthy of love and worthy of fair treatment.
And what the state of Israel is doing, we condemn it.
And please remember that even Jewish people who do condemn it, we are Christians, but who do condemn it, they suffer because they call them self-hating Jew and they want to kill them, their own.
They will kill their own.
And I just want to give a few names here for people.
Ilan Pape, a Jewish scholar, Jewish scholar.
Oh, an author of many, many books.
Yes.
Miko Pelled, who wrote a book, Son of the General, who will give you the true history of 1948, what happened there.
If you never heard of Eran Efrati, he's a son of police chief of Jerusalem who was coming to universities here a long, long time warning Americans that our police force is being trained in Israel and they're training on Palestinians and they are ready to do this on Americans if needed.
So basically the same treatment, the same techniques.
So and now what's happening in Gaza, we are deeply saddened and disturbed and we stand with the children and people of Gaza and we believe that they have rights to their own freedom recognition as humankind.
So definitely agree with you there, Mike.
Yeah, you know, isn't it bizarre that being feeling compassion and empathy for all human beings will get you labeled an anti-Semite?
This is a trick.
It's a trick.
It's a psychological operation called projection, where they label you something, so you are shying away from speaking up.
Yep.
Yep.
But these are difficult times, obviously, and I appreciate both of you helping us attempt to navigate this.
And look, I just want to say what you are doing, Jana, especially being that it's your father here, to come forth publicly and share this intimate and painful experience takes a lot of courage.
So thank you for expressing that courage.
Thank you, Mike, for having me.
It really helps with healing that somebody's interested in even listening because it's an extremely painful experience.
Very painful.
I mean, I would say my soul is broken.
Absolutely.
Well, just remember, your soul and your father's soul are both eternal, and you will be together again one day.
So that's a blessing that we can all look forward to, actually.
The soul is eternal.
The soul is completely resistant to hydrogen peroxide.
That is probably the most truthful statement ever.
The soul is eternal.
Okay.
Is there anything else that either of you would like to add before we wrap this up today?
Just, we want to express gratitude to you, Mike, and all the people who know about this situation, and they were morally very supportive to us, writing me letters, some of them, and I truly deeply appreciate it.
Thank you.
I would say to myself, I think, Mike, a lot of this may have been able to be resolved had these doctors early on, especially the other two, not chose an avenue of cover-up, but rather just come forward and say, hey, we made a mistake in following this protocol.
You know, I don't know what Carrie would say, but I'm just, you know, the thing is, there's so much, so much, when you're honest and you're willing to come up, even if it is a mistake, like you said, if it's a malpractice and it's a mistake, if you just have the courage to stand up and say, gosh, I'm very sorry, what I did was wrong.
So much more could be settled under those situations there than the way that they've all chosen to take.
Well, that's absolutely true.
Yeah.
Thank you for saying that.
And I have prayers for you both.
Thank you.
And we appreciate you and what you're doing.
And please keep me posted.
And for those watching, remember that I'm officially inviting Carrie Medet to join a conversation in the interest of healing and accountability also.
So let's see what happens with that.
And thank you both.
It's been a pleasure speaking with you today.
Thank you, Mike.
All right.
And for those of you watching, thank you for taking the time to hear this tragic story that ultimately speaks to the intense love that Yana and Stephen have for Yana's father, which is, I think, it's a microcosm of the love for humanity that we are all born to express and share.
If we love each other, then we don't have to be in a world of war and separation and suffering.
So let this be the ultimate lesson in the importance of universal Christ-like love.
And I don't mean the figure, the person, Jesus of Nazareth.
I mean in the greatest sense of a Christ-love energy, the universal cosmic love.
If we can focus on that, we can create a much brighter future together.
Thank you all for watching today.
I'm MikeAdams of Brighteon.com.
Take care.
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