Jason Harvey joins Mike Adams to talk about rugged tools, off-grid survival...
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Alright, welcome to today's interview here on BrightTown.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of BrightTown, and as you know, I'm a big fan of really rugged tools that help you get things done.
I'm a big fan of off-grid living and self-reliance and quality things that you buy them once and you can use them often for a lifetime.
And I've got with me today a brand new guest, someone that we've never interviewed before, because we discovered that he's made a line of, believe it or not, just humble shovels.
That are really extraordinary in their ruggedness, their utility, and special design with their teeth.
We'll talk about that.
And remember, if you're going to grow food, if you're going to be off-grid with any of your self-reliance plans, you're going to need really high-end tools.
So you're about to hear about a tool called the Crazy Beaver.
And here to explain it is the founder and the inventor of the Crazy Beaver line is Jason Harvey, 23 years in law enforcement, and then he began to work on these tools.
It's great to see you.
Great.
Thank you for having me.
It's great to have you on, and thank you for taking the time here.
I see you've got a shovel behind you in the background there.
I've got your shovel also on my table here because we put it to use.
Tell us about the Crazy Beaver and what motivated you to create this tool set.
Okay.
Yeah, so about 12 years ago, 13 years ago, I was with the Albuquerque Police Department.
At the time I was with the department, I was in their open space division.
Their open space division patrolled the mountains, the rivers, and the desert west of Albuquerque.
While I was in there, one thing that kept coming up was we were doing a lot of vehicle recoveries of stolen vehicles and people getting stuck up in the desert.
Or up in the mountains when it snowed.
And one thing that I kept needing was a shovel.
Some time went on and I kept thinking about designs of shovels.
And on one particular situation, I happened to be driving home and I noticed that people were starting to put racks on the top of their vehicles.
And up till then, people had racks, but it isn't like it is now where overlanding took over.
Overlanding wasn't really a thing 12 years ago.
And what happened was I saw a vehicle to the left of me while I was in my patrol car and I noticed that they had like a Home Depot shovel on top of their vehicle.
And it dawned on me that the off-road stores didn't offer any dedicated off-road shovels other than the little e-tool.
And at that point, I actually invented a different shovel head.
But if you've ever been in manufacturing or invented a product, you always start out with an idea and that idea And so what started out as one idea quickly morphed and changed, and it eventually led me to the shovel that we've been now selling for 12 years.
But I didn't know, at the time, overlanding was going to become a huge thing.
Okay, so let me interrupt you for a second, just show people what we're talking about here.
So this is the Crazy Beaver Shovel, and I know you're going to talk about the construction here, but obviously this stands out as something really different, these spines on the front edge.
And then the thickness of the steel, the way you have it bound to the handle, which I think the handle itself is fiberglass, I'm not sure, you'll tell us.
And then the fact that you've got this pin.
So the handle is easily replaceable.
So this seems like a tool that is easy to maintain, but it's also incredibly rugged.
Can you just talk to us about the key features of this tool?
And by the way, after this show today, this goes on my ranch side-by-side vehicle.
So that's where it's going.
Well, that's where it should be.
You know, you're talking to your customers or the people that follow you.
As being kind of off the grid, being prepared.
We have 35 acres.
I have a Generac.
When the power goes out around here, it just kicks on.
And we're east of Denver out in the farm fields.
So we're all about self-reliance.
So with regards to that shovelhead, that shovelhead was actually designed for root systems.
Whenever you use a shovel like a spade and you're digging into the ground and you hit a root, for example, a root of a tree, what will happen is that spade will dart to the left or to the right.
That's right.
That shovel was actually designed to, when it would hit a root, the root would go in between those teeth and as you push down, it would sever the root system.
Great.
Now, it never really took off in that industry.
However, around our property, we use it for yuccas and thistles and everything, and it's absolutely incredible.
It's incredible for that and breaking ice.
But when I came out with that shovel with those teeth, I was also part of New Mexico Task Force One, which was a FEMA urban search and rescue team.
As well as state search and rescue and the dive team.
So I traveled all over the state and then I traveled all over the country with FEMA search and rescue.
And the guys that first started picking up my shovel was the fire department guys.
Oh yeah, that makes sense.
Yeah, and so they started putting on some of the fire trucks and then New Mexico State Police put it on their SWAT vehicles.
And then it just started to take a life of its own at that point.
And then we introduced it to the off-road market.
I tried going the traditional routes of taking it into stores, off-road stores in Albuquerque, and a lot of the people didn't think it would go anywhere, and it was very difficult to get people onto a new product idea that wasn't out there.
Which is pretty normal for new products, especially with price breaks or prices, I guess the price that people aren't used to.
Yeah, this is not a Walmart shovel.
No, and that's what I ran into.
I can think of two dealers.
One, the first dealer I went to, we actually bought ATVs for the police department from this dealer.
And I went and spoke to him and introduced him to the shovel.
And he says, well, I don't have a need for it because nobody ever asked me for this shovel.
And I told him, I'm like, you're the first dealer we're actually bringing it to, to go on side-by-sides because we designed it for the off-road industry.
And that dealer didn't want it.
And then I went to another dealer.
He said, it's too expensive.
No one's going to buy it.
And I then approached it like, can we co-sign it with you?
And see what happens.
Of course, he started selling them like crazy.
But he couldn't wrap his mind around why it was selling.
And it was very easy for me to understand why it was selling because it looked cool.
It was functional.
And it was powder-coated.
And it had all the elements of the off-roading industry.
Eventually, it just took off.
Okay, I want to...
And, of course, if you go to healthrangerstore.com slash beaver, then you're going to see all the crazy beaver shovels.
They're available in different colors, different lengths, and they also have different heads here as well.
Now, I've only used the one here, the sample that I got with the one head, but I'll tell you something, Jason.
What I was able to do with it just on my ranch was, And so, very often, I have to just dig out an area to make a connection to a pipe.
Or I'm digging out an area to put a post to mount a faucet on.
And our area is semi rocky.
So mixed in with the dirt are these rocks.
And they can be anywhere from...
What I found about your shovel, just like you were talking about with the tap roots, this shovel, those teeth on the front, they really get under the rocks and they allow you to pry the rocks up and get those out of the way so you can get a bigger dirt scoop.
So that's how I use it.
It was very helpful.
Yeah, you do have to be careful with the prying.
We've had people, they'll put the teeth underneath root systems.
And then they'll put all their leverage on the end of the D-grip.
Oh, yeah.
That would bend.
It could bend.
Usually what happens is the fiberglass will, I say it talks to you, it'll start to crack.
You'll start hearing, the fiberglass will start making noises because it's actually flexing.
Wood, actually, it doesn't give you any indicator it's about to break.
But fiberglass actually will give you an indicator before something, a catastrophic failure.
As far as the teeth, it takes a massive amount of force to bend the teeth.
When I dig into rocks, I tell people just slam it into the rocks.
Because a lot of times the rocks will just explode or chip apart.
Yeah, true.
Very much so.
In fact, we've sold them to people that are gold mining up in New Zealand.
And they bought our small, what we call the mini.
And they told me that they just slam it into the rocks up in the mountains.
Yeah, it's pretty interesting.
They just put them in backpacks and hike them up into the mountains of New Zealand.
Okay, let me ask you this question about what technique, manufacturing technique, what are you using to connect the head to the handle and is this strong enough to withstand?
I don't know what this is, like a crimped What do you even call this silver piece right here?
The neck.
It's called the collar.
A collar.
Yeah, and it's actually crimped on.
We have a custom machine that it's capable of up to 240 tons of pressure.
Oh my.
Yeah, so we have a specific amount of pressure and tolerances.
That we have plugged into the computer that we found works the best because if you do it too tight, it'll actually crack the crimping collar.
And if you do it too loose, it doesn't collapse it tight enough to where that fiberglass handle will actually spin inside.
So we have it dialed down to the exact amount that we need.
Okay.
All right.
Fantastic.
So the head is powder coated.
I want to ask you about rust, rust resistance.
Obviously, the powder coating helps with that.
But one of the problems I have in Central Texas is because of the humidity, and then you get condensation, and then you get tools rusting.
Yeah, I mean, it's a steel tool.
We do fiberglass it or powder coat it, but when you use them out there, Shovel companies will tell you, get a bucket of sand with some oil and dip it in that.
That's what they'll say.
That's what I do, yeah.
Yeah, that's I think a standard practice for shovels, especially where you're at where there might be a lot of humidity.
We were from New Mexico and Arizona where there is no humidity, so our shovels didn't have any, they never got any rust, but then you move.
From those dry locations, then yes, you can get rust on them.
What kind of different sizes do you have?
I mean, they're all fiberglass, they're different colors, but they're all fiberglass in terms of the stem.
And then what kind of different sizes do you have available?
Okay, so there's our standard one, which is 40 inches.
And that was the one we came out because when we introduced that one, But for around properties such as yours and ours out here, I use a 46-inch length shovel, and it's, in my opinion, the perfect fit for gardens and working out in the yard because you're not bent over at all.
The 40-inch works, but I find that I'm bent over more, and if you're using it a lot, your back starts to hurt.
And then we have a, I want to say it's a 33-inch, and that's our ATV one.
And then we have a 29.5-inch, which is what we call the mini.
and you can take the D grip off of it and it'll actually fit in a backpack.
So we have people that will use those for, Oh, okay.
You just mentioned the D-grip that can be removed.
It's got a pin.
I don't know what you call this pin, but I see these on tractor implements, right?
But larger.
It's a self-latching cotter pin, basically.
Yeah, we call it a quick release pin, and that one has something that's different from the tractor ones.
That one has a little clip on the end.
It's called a quick release tab with a pin, with a tab.
And so that tab allows you to pull it off with gloves, unlike the traditional tractor ones that come around, and they're more difficult to get off.
Okay, so this is designed to come off for transportation and storage, as well as just to be easily replaceable?
Well, I'll tell you how this part came about.
We were on a search and rescue mission up in the Hamas Mountains, and we were looking for an individual that belonged to the Forest Service that was a hotshot.
He was responding to a lightning strike, and he went missing.
His name was Token Adams.
You can look it up online.
But it was during that...
And this was a big, this turned into a big national event because we were looking for them for six days.
Wow.
And anyway, the idea came to me and we, a bunch of my partners were like, I started thinking that, you know, it would be nice if you could utilize the degrip in the hollow section of the handle to put fire starting or emergency equipment down the handle.
Oh, yeah.
And likewise, we were using it on the dive team for when we were diving down, specifically the mud shovels.
And what it allowed you to do was pull the pin, release the air, and then, or when you come up, you can pull the degrip off and let the water out.
I see.
Because what, the shovel had too much buoyancy when there's air in it?
No, it would fill up with water.
All shovels will fill up with water.
If you take them under, if you put them in the underwater, but then you can't get the water out.
I see.
Okay.
There was a guy, Justin, who's with a company called Factor 55. He had called me.
He's up in Idaho and he's the main rep.
Now it's part of Warren.
You've probably heard of Warren Wenches.
But Justin's their main rep, and he had a shovel on the back of his Jeep, and he had it mounted where the head was up and the degrip was down, and what would happen is, over the course of rain and just moisture, the water would seep into the handle, and then wintertime would come along, and then it would actually freeze, fracture the handle, and ruin the shovel.
But our removable degrip, you can just let the water out.
But ours in theory won't get water in it because we actually super glue the core into that fire.
glass handle, which makes ours different from other shovels.
Because most of them have wood or they're hollow.
Right.
So, wait a minute.
Yours has a fiberglass outer layer, but then there's a core inside the fiberglass?
What's the core made of?
It's also fiberglass, but it's solid.
So, when you crimp that, when we put that crimping collar on there, There's a solid core that's about 12 inches long, and it goes up through that section.
Because that's the weakest part of the shovel handle, is where that crimping collar is.
Because when you start putting pressure on it, they'll break right behind the head of that shovel.
And when you put the core in there, it extends that, and so it makes the handle much more stronger.
So, I mean, that's extraordinary.
There was another company that makes aluminum shovels that I had purchased shovels from, I don't know, two years ago or something.
And that was great, but also you've got to watch out for buried power lines and things like that if you have a conductive shovel.
But what kinds of stories are you hearing from people about using the Crazy Beaver shovels?
I mean, you come out of search and rescue, but what kinds of feedback do you get from people who are using your tools?
Well, almost immediately we received feedback from people that normally weren't carrying shovels in their vehicles.
One in particular I can think of was that a guy was up in the mountains with his family back out in California.
And he thanked me for the shovel because they had gone up and I can't remember where it was at.
But they had gone up into the mountains and then a snowstorm came in.
And he had big tires on his truck, but regardless, the snow was coming down so fast.
He told me that he had his wife drive in, and because he had the shovel in it, he was trying to clear out the way.
He said the police bearcat couldn't even get to him.
It was coming down so fast.
Wow.
But we've received quite a few of those types of stories of how, and the people were telling us, we normally never carried a shovel, but your shovel's so cool, we just carried it inside the vehicles.
And it saved our lives.
And that was my main thinking from a search and rescue perspective, is if I can get people to carry these tools with them, something that they normally wouldn't have carried, that perhaps we can save lives.
And that was my whole goal behind it.
Well, and that's fantastic to hear.
And also, when it comes to especially those applications, the tool, the reliability of it can mean the difference between life and death.
And what I...
They're flimsy.
The neck is hollow.
They break.
I got tired of breaking shovels.
This is insane.
I just want to buy a good shovel that's going to last me a long time.
Sure.
Right?
Yeah.
But then you run into...
What do they say?
Buy nice or buy twice, right?
Yeah.
Buy now, cry later, or I don't know.
Yeah, there's all kinds of different things.
You know, I spend my money on quality tools because I'd rather suffer with the price now or just deal with the price now and know that when it comes down to there may be a time that I'm going to need it and my life may depend on it.
And then there's other tools that I'll buy that It doesn't really matter.
This is definitely one of those tools, especially if you're in the backcountry, you don't want to have fail on you because you may be in that situation.
Like I said, we receive emails all the time where people are like, thank goodness the other shovel broke and we still had your shovel to dig us all out.
Most of the guys that are buying our shovels are going, they're not driving down little dirt roads.
They're way up in the mountains where there's still a lot of snow and ice and people are sliding off cliffs.
That's where our main customers, they're out there.
I see.
But I would imagine also, for example, in California not too long ago, there were the Palisades fires, right?
And you have a lot of debris to work through in those kinds of fires.
And sometimes, you know, rescue operations when buildings collapse and things like that.
But I would imagine there's a pretty strong user base in those kinds of applications in the cities too.
But you tell me.
I would think so.
Yeah, I would think so.
I know some of the guys with some fire departments down south of us, they were using, down in New Mexico, they were using them to pry drywall off of walls in fires, and they were using our shovels for all kinds of things.
The Park Service ended up buying some of our shovels down south, and they were starting to use them for wildland firefighting.
We kind of built custom ones for their needs.
And then we had...
Oh, really?
Yeah, yeah.
So there's a lot of emergency organizations that have bought them.
You know, the pricing sometimes becomes an issue, but a lot of times there's grants for some of the agencies to purchase them.
I just want to point out that when people are searching for your shovels on our website, that the word crazy is spelled with a K. Yeah.
So, you know, but just search for Beaver and you'll find all the shovels.
Or just go to healthrangerstore.com slash Beaver, and that'll take you right to the page.
Now, given current events and your history in law enforcement, can I ask you a question outside of the shovel?
Sure.
You know, right now, obviously, the situation in L.A. is involving a lot of law enforcement.
The images that the public is seeing right now is showing that law enforcement is getting pummeled, LAPD and LA County sheriffs, because they seemingly do not have, they haven't been given rules of engagement that allow them to really defend themselves at all.
And so they're taking a beating right now.
and a lot of your customers are in Border Patrol or law enforcement, do you get any sense of Yeah.
I was actually on the front lines for a short period of time at Aurora PD when we had the BLM riots.
Okay.
And they actually barricaded one of the police stations and chained the doors and were getting ready to burn it.
With officers inside of it.
And it was making national news like crazy here.
So I was at the main headquarters one night.
And yeah, our hands, law enforcement, they tie your hands and you can't go after anybody.
What's terrible about this is you watch it and these people are paid.
The majority of the people there are being bussed in, shipped in, and they're being paid.
Most of them aren't even from those areas.
And that's what happened, and that's what we saw in Aurora, was they were coming in from Washington, D.C., and they were being shipped and bussed in droves.
And those were the people that were instigating everything.
And it's unfortunate because some of the local people would show up, and they're thinking they're part of the protest.
Mixed within those were the agitators that were trying to escalate the situations.
And those were the people that were throwing things.
And I kind of wish that they would just find out who's paying all these actors.
And you can see it, that they're trying to figure out.
Yes, yep.
Absolutely.
In fact, it was very interesting because there were certain things, they're very well organized, and obviously they're training somewhere.
But when they were at Aurora, there were certain tactics that they were using and the way they were saying it before they would do something.
Those same tactics were up in Washington, D.C. when everything happened up in Washington, D.C. Those same chants in the same way they were moving was exactly the same as it was in Aurora.
Well, and it seems like now, I mean, part of their training, as I understand it, is to provoke a police overreaction.
Because they want a police shooting on video so they can have outcry.
And perhaps that's one of the reasons why police are given seemingly unreasonable rules of engagement.
Basically says you can't do anything except just try to corral people around.
which is, it's a very dangerous job for police to be in that situation, to say you can't do anything other than just take a beating.
I appreciate you commenting on that, and I want you to know that I think right now, America, because of the riots or whatever you want to call them, a lot of chaos, a lot of arson, America, as far as I can tell, largely stands with law enforcement.
And the Guardsmen and even the U.S. Marines contingent that has been deployed there.
And I think if law enforcement keeps their cool and does their job here, I think this is going to be a good moment for law enforcement across the country.
What do you think?
Yeah, I absolutely think so.
I noticed, I saw a quick little snippet on, what was that?
Twitter, there was a bunch of people looting out in Los Angeles.
I believe it was Los Angeles.
And I saw the police officers chasing them down and getting a hold of them.
And that's all the law enforcement wants to do.
They just want to take care of business.
But their hands have been tied because of politics.
The police officers I knew, they wanted to go do their job and arrest the agitators.
But a lot of times, for political reasons, they're being held back.
And it was super frustrating.
I think everything's kind of changing now, and hopefully for the better.
Yeah, I agree.
All right, well, thanks for commenting on that.
So getting back to your inventions, the tools, Crazy Beaver, is there anything else that I failed to ask you that you think is really important for people to know about your product line here?
Well, people always ask me, how did you come up with the name Crazy Beaver?
Yeah, that's a good question.
I thought that was the name of a 1980s female rock band.
Yeah, right.
Whatever, you know.
No, how'd you come up with the name?
Yeah, so, well, one of my partners, we were out patrolling on a military Humvee out west of Albuquerque, and we were trying to come up for a name for the business, and my buddy asked me, he's like, okay, the first thing that comes to your head, what do you think of, what does the shovel look like?
And I was like, well, it looks like a beaver tail.
And then he started making jokes about angry birds and things like that.
And to be honest with you, we had all kinds of problems with beavers along the Rio Grande Valley.
And so that's why I guess the beaver came to my head.
Anyway, later on I went to a restaurant and I'm like, you know, it's crazy nobody's invented this.
And then I started thinking, crazy beaver.
And then, you know, part of starting a business is you need to look for trademark rights.
Yes.
The name for tooling and clothing and decals.
And sure enough, when I started Googling it all, I could grab the trademarks for all of those parts of it.
You can't just come up with the name and then not be able to trademark it.
That's right.
Well, that's smart that you did that in advance.
And the domain name, and then also social media channel names and everything.
It's also very memorable.
Crazy Beaver, it's a very memorable name.
But I think with this head, it could also be called the zombie chopper.
It's so crazy.
I just had one return from Amazon, and the guy said, it looks like something from The Walking Dead.
I don't think I want it.
Really?
Because it looks like that?
That would be a reason to get it.
I don't understand.
Okay.
I just started laughing.
I'm like, yeah, I can't believe it hasn't been on The Walking Dead.
It should be on The Walking Dead, yes.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, you can see there's one on the last Twister one.
They've got it on their truck.
Oh, is that right?
That's cool.
Yeah, you can barely see it, but it's there.
Very cool.
All right.
Well, yeah.
So, again, for everybody who wants to check out the product line, again, this shovel will last you, and I'm picking it up.
You can't feel how heavy it is.
I mean, it's rugged.
It's durable.
I mean, the head is heavy.
Obviously, the fiberglass lightens it up, so it's manageable, but the head is heavy-duty.
You can get them all at healthrangerstore.com slash beaver.
Different sizes here, different colors, and different heads are also available.
And this is what I'm going to.
I've got the one shovel that I've already tried out, but what I'm going to do next is I'm going to get some different sizes and check all of these out.
I've got multiple tasks on my ranch.
Let's put it that way.
Different vehicles for this and that.
This would be real handy.
So Jason, what about the origin of the shovel?
There are the new tariffs on Chinese goods, etc.
Where do the parts come from?
Or where is your shovel made?
Okay, yeah.
So the steel is actually USA Steel.
So there won't be any tariffs that affect that.
The pins are also made in the USA.
The fiberglass is made in the USA.
And the D-grips are made in the USA.
So it's 100% USA.
Even the shovel guards, they're made for us up in Idaho.
So all of our stuff related to this shovel is made in the USA.
The mud shovel heads are made overseas.
So I'm not sure if that's going to be affected.
I would assume it would eventually, but the mud shovels represent a very small piece of what we actually do.
Our main shovel is our main flagship.
Okay, so about the steel, you said it's a USA steel.
I was just interviewing our knife partner, and they said that a major steel producer in Syracuse, New York, has been arrested.
Now, I know this isn't a powdered steel, but has that affected you, the fact that the steel business in the USA is contracting?
Yeah, not that I'm aware of.
Not yet, anyway.
Last I heard, because I called about that probably a month ago, if it was going to affect the steel from the company that builds them for us, and they said, no.
Made in the USA, so the prices should be the same.
So to my knowledge, it hasn't affected, and I have no knowledge of it going to affect it.
Okay, all right.
Well, that's good to know, and we do want to support domestic steel and domestic producers of all of these products.
So to our audience, this is another great way to buy American, is to buy the Crazy Beaver at healthrangerstore.com slash beaver.
So thank you for taking the time.
To share with us today this whole story.
Absolutely.
Thank you for having me.
Jason, just be well and be safe.
Tell all your buddies that we support them.
Thank you for what you do.
God bless America.
Thank you.
Take care now.
Thank all of you for watching.
Hope you enjoyed this.
We're all about really high-end quality tools that can help you be more self-reliant.
And especially think about the global supply chain crisis that we're under right now.
Trump just did a deal with China, which is a 55% tariff, I believe, on incoming Chinese goods.
So even those sort of cheaper Walmart shovels that are all made in China, they're going to get even more expensive as well.
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And this is one of those.
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