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June 12, 2025 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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John Roy from Dawson Knives announces new knives and tools, while warning about...
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Welcome to today's episode here on BrightTown.com.
I'm Mike Adams and today we're joined by John from Dawson Knives, which is a third generation family run knife making, well, a family of knife making experts.
They're based out of Arizona and they use nearly all USA components to make their knives.
And of course, we've worked with them for many years to have custom design, custom form knives, high quality Magna Cut steel G10 handles.
And famously now, one of the knives that we came up with together, I named it Escape from L.A. And look at what's happening.
So welcome, John, to the show today.
It's great to have you on.
Yeah, you were kind of prophesying there, man.
I mean, that Escape from L.A. knife and looking at all the riots and everything that's going down there.
Yeah, that knife is designed to escape a city where the power grid has failed.
And, you know, because it's got a pry bar on the front of it, which is very unusual for a knife.
Anyway, welcome to the show today.
I know you've got some new things to announce.
I've also got your knife under the microscope here that we're going to show the audience for the first time ever.
Actually, yeah, go ahead and show the microscope.
There.
Here's a live microscopy look, and there's your logo.
Since 1973, Dawson, right?
So we're going to actually take a very high-end look at the blade and some of the materials and the angles, the sharpening, etc.
Anyway, welcome to the show.
So, how you been?
Been really good, Mike.
Thank you for having me here.
I always love you guys.
You guys do an awesome job.
You guys are first class in how you handle us and how you handle your customers.
We get a lot of good feedback.
We've been making knives for you guys for many years now.
And we've been working really hard coming up with some really new designs.
Talking about one of them just recently with this new cutlery design that we've worked with you.
We talked about it over a year ago.
It was back in January about possibly kitchen knives, which would really go well with the Health Ranger.
And we haven't done kitchen knives in 30 years.
So we used to do it when we first started back in the 80s and 90s.
And then we just kind of moved into the survival market.
We came out with a lot of, you know, the Spike and a lot of other different designs.
During, in 2001, you know, Operation Enduring Freedom and Operation Iraqi Freedom.
So we started focusing on that a lot more, helping our soldiers abroad.
But now, ever since we started talking to you, it really got us thinking.
You know, maybe we should make a kitchen knife.
So we worked with some chefs and came up with the design that we have today.
All right.
Well, let's just actually jump right to that because I've got one of those knives right here.
And this is called the Hearthfire.
Yes.
And what's the actual blade length on this?
Is it six inches?
Yeah, so it's a little over six inches.
It's about six and three-eighths.
So just in that area.
And this is made with MagnaCut, correct?
Yes, it's made with MagnaCut steel.
So it's one of the few kitchen knives out there that are actually made with MagnaCut steel.
Now, tell our audience about MagnaCut steel because it's a revolutionary alloy with anti-corrosion properties, but it's also about to get a whole lot more expensive.
So talk to us about the benefits of MagnaCut.
I love MagnaCut for all the tools, the machete, the hatchet.
You know, all the other, the combat knives and so on, which I've given to many of our guests here.
But tell us about MagnaCut.
So, MagnaCut was actually invented by my good friend, Larry Thomas.
He's actually, well, he was out here in Arizona.
And his family used to do the shows out here.
And we knew his dad.
He always made Damascus.
And we'd see him at the shows because we were all growing up.
And Barry would be at the shows with his dad.
Darren Thomas.
So he came up during COVID with this alloy.
He's got a doctorate in metallurgy.
And what he really did was find a way to make a super stainless without using a lot of chromium, which can make your knives brittle.
You get a lot of chipping from that.
So he found a way to only use 10% chromium, which is technically not a stainless, but by all the different alloys that he's put into it.
It has allowed it not to have any chromium carbides, and so you get a super stainless steel that's easy to resharpen and is extremely tough and also very heat-resistant.
And then you, what Dawson did on top of that, was you developed your own heat-treating protocols that are not known by anybody else, as far as I understand.
Is that correct?
Yeah, that is correct.
So we came out with our own proprietary heat treat with MagnaCut.
And the cool thing about that is that with our heat treating techniques, we actually get a differential heat treat.
We were one of the first, and still to this day, the only person that has ever put a hard line or a hemone line on a powdered metal MagnaCut steel.
And so we have a lot of processes that we do for that that is our family secret.
We've studied a lot in heat treating.
And we've worked in metallurgy a lot.
So with this process, you get a razor sharp cutting edge.
So that edge lasts a little bit longer than a lot of our competition using MagnaCut.
So we can usually go about, you know, one and a half times longer.
And then you get a lot of strength behind it.
And that's what's really important.
There's a lot of flex.
We've done videos with the Escape from L.A. just showing that pry bar feature and able to chop through nails.
We've shown in our sword videos the way that it can bend.
We had a machete video that just the way it could chop and how it could take so much impact and even in hitting metal.
So, it's pretty impressive what we've been able to come up with, and we pass that down generation to generation, and we have third generation learning that today.
Yeah, I've really used your knives as tools on my ranch, and I just posted a video because my jogging path got some cedar elm trees very, I don't know, an inch diameter or smaller.
They were kind of overgrowing the path, so I took what we call the extreme outfitter.
And here's one right here.
And I forgot the exact length of this blade, but I love the design.
I love the weight.
It's incredibly useful.
And usually with just one strike, you can sever a small tree or a tree branch, and I was just able to clear the path very quickly.
And, you know, very practical.
It's not just me looking for things to chop.
No, I need to jog here, you know, with my dog.
Who's sitting over here.
So we use these every day, and also I use the Escape from L.A. I use that pry bar to deal with the fence post nails that are nailed into wooden posts.
Very common in Texas.
So when you have fencing wire, it's nailed with these staples.
And these staples, that's what that reverse hook feature is all about.
You can pry those staples out of it with that special knife, Escape from L.A. So very practical.
Yeah, when you told us what was the purpose for that, it took us a little while to figure it out.
We actually had to hammer in the staples, find the right staples and pry them out.
And we were surprised how well that worked out.
It made an awesome tool.
We worked with you through the revision.
So that escape from LA was really hashed out over a period of time to really perfect.
This idea and this tool.
That's why there's nothing like it on the market.
Now, when we get to the Outfitter Extreme, we really worked on balancing it.
Right now, it is the only machete that Dawson offers.
So that's on your side right now.
And so your guys can get that.
This machete is balanced really well.
We really took it through its paces.
We chopped everything from large branches.
We've hit mesquite with it.
We've hit all kinds of stuff with this machete, and it just works really good.
And just getting that grind line and the way we grind also helps with those dynamics.
So our edge angle on that particular machete, so you can still cut brush and still hit hard, heavy limbs, we put it about 18 degrees.
Oh, wow.
Okay, we're going to go to the microscope shortly and take a look, but let me mention to the audience, if you want to get the new chef's knife, it's Only a couple hundred sets are being made available, and the ship time is two to three weeks.
You can find it at healthrangerstore.com slash chef, C-H-E-F, and it's the Hearthfire knife, and it's available in a couple of different colors for the handle.
And, of course, this knife will last you a lifetime, and you will never break it in your kitchen, even if you tried to.
It would be very hard to figure out how to break it.
It will make cooking an incredible delight and it's something that will, again, last a lifetime.
The G10 handle, the full tang design.
What's the actual thickness of the steel for this knife?
Very good question.
So it ends up getting at 0.100.
So we use three 32nd inch stock and then we get it down to 0.100.
The cool thing about this kitchen knife, it's the only Dawson kitchen knife that exists.
We did a trial run on our site and everyone loved it.
We have people wanting more.
So I was so happy with this collaboration because we started this way back in February.
And it really helped us to, when we go to the design of this knife, and that's one thing I wanted to show everybody, we really made it so it's unique because it has a hollow grind.
So a lot of your kitchen knives are flat ground, which is not bad.
I mean, it still makes a good kitchen knife, but with the hollow grind, it allows us to cut really finely into any vegetables or meat, steak, and it actually pushes away.
So that way you don't get that suction to it and you can keep chopping and cutting.
So it's just a really universal knife.
It's a chef's knife.
Everybody uses one in the kitchen.
One of the chefs that helped us design this went to Scottsdale Culinary and is in San Jose.
She does amazing work.
So she helped us really work out the design, this little cut-in right here.
So if you look at the bottom, it's got this little profile cut-in.
So that really helps you to start your cut.
You don't have to worry, especially if you're moving really fast and you're grabbing right here.
You have a lot of control.
So there's a lot of little features with this knife that once you start using in the kitchen, you really see how robust.
We have one guy separating chicken bones and no edge damage.
He was just chopping right through.
So it's pretty impressive.
Yeah.
Well, thanks for mentioning that.
And the hollow grind, that refers to the shape of the grinding away of the metal to make, narrowing it down to the cutting edge.
But it's the shape of that that helps.
Move through like meat and steak and things like that, correct?
That is correct.
So when you look at it, it's actually kind of curved like this.
So you have your point and then it's curved.
So what that does is that it creates a channel so you don't have that suction.
So air, blood, whatever can escape through that.
Or, you know, water.
And so that way it actually helps separate the vegetables and everything and pushes them apart while still giving you a very clean cut.
By the way, why are you wearing, like, Gun Range Earpro today?
I'm just curious.
So, you know, that's a good point.
So everything that we do, it's a lot of tactical.
And so we were trying this.
I could hear you really good.
We had another set, and I'm just like, you know, I just can't really hear very well.
So these are our tactical Gun Range that we use out in the shop.
We also use it because when we're manufacturing, we have these here, but I can also plug them in to So those are just regular gun range amplifying ear protection?
Yeah, these are, I think these are walkers.
Okay.
They work pretty well, yeah.
Yeah, okay, all right, cool.
All right, well, then loud noises will not phase you.
Okay, let's go to the microscope.
So we're starting here at a 5X magnification right now, just to show that this is the Dawson knife.
And this one is a slightly different shape of another kitchen knife that we have not yet announced, but this is the prototype for it.
And you've got the same kind of grind, the hollow grind, that you can see right there.
But what I want to do, John, is go to the blade edge here and show people, as we zoom in, what this looks like.
Let me actually find...
Oops, that's as far left as we can go.
All right, we'll center it here.
And then we're going to start to really zoom in, and it's going to swap lenses, and then we'll focus it in, and you will begin to see...
So there's MagnaCut at 80x.
Oh, wow.
With the sharpening that you have put on it, you can see the consistency of it right there.
We can go in, let's go to 200x.
It's going to swap lenses again.
And this begins to start to look like scanning electron microscopy.
Yeah.
Let me let me show you something else.
We'll go to 400x and I'm actually going to We can get it all in focus at the same time.
Alright, it's compositing.
There we go.
So there's the image of the edge at 400x.
Pretty wild, huh?
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
Actually, I used to work on electron microscopes a long time ago.
Did you?
Yes, I did.
I actually interned at Intel.
This is back when I was going to college in Phoenix at the old Williams Air Force Base before it was the Arizona State Technological Institute.
Yeah.
But yeah, so I worked on M-rays, electron microscopes, and some KLA.
But yeah, so that's really cool.
So when you look at that, you can actually see both things.
So you can see the secondary bevel, which is the cutting edge, right where you had it.
You can actually see that divide line to the actual grinding edge, so where you had that.
And it's pretty cool when you're looking at it, because at the top part, you can tell that that's only going through a 240 grit, and then it's going through a satin finish that's about a 400 to 600.
When you look down the edge, that part right towards the very bottom of your microscope there, you can tell that it's a lot finer.
So we go through a 400 grit and then we're going to a 1000 grit, which is helping us with the stropping and really knocking it down to get that fine cutting edge.
Oh wow, gosh.
You know, you're right because I didn't realize we weren't at the very edge.
That was just the transition.
Which is really cool.
I thought that was perfect because you can see the transition between what's happening over there at the grind and then getting down to the bevel.
So you can tell the difference there when you get really close and why the grits are because that's important.
A lot of people, if you look at that top part where we grind at 240, that's where they stop when they're sharpening.
Oh, wow.
They're like that.
So at the bottom...
Nobody does that.
They don't have the time.
So they only go to a 240, and that's why our cutting edge is so much better.
You see, it's so much finer there.
I can see it.
It looks more like ridges and canyons.
Yeah.
Right.
Okay.
So then, if I then move down to the actual cutting edge, which is way down here.
Here we go.
And, of course, I have to refocus.
Okay, so now, ho ho ho, Exactly.
And you can actually see that cutting edge is that micro line right there that we actually strop.
So that's leather strop right there.
So you can actually see at the very end, that's a micro edge that's actually cutting the material that's separating right to your secondary grind, which then is going to your main bevel.
Well, I'm going to go 1000x on this just for kicks, okay?
Okay, go for it.
Let's see what that looks like.
Okay.
Of course, focusing is really tricky at 1000x.
Oh, yeah.
So stand by here, and we get...
All right, let me do a depth composition here.
Actually, let me try some light.
There we go.
Okay, there you are.
Yep.
And then let me get a depth composition here, and then we'll be able to take a look at this at 1000x.
All right.
Stand by.
It's compositing.
There it is.
Perfect.
Wow.
So yeah, you're at 1000X.
Now you're starting to see that 1000 grit imperfections, which is pretty cool.
But you can tell right over here on that final micro edge where it's really reflective.
That's really nifty because you can tell how clean that is and it's actually showing out on your microscope.
So that's where you're cutting.
So that's starting that whole cut.
So where you're stropping, you're actually working on that very bottom.
Right.
Right.
Exactly.
And if we We can actually do a 3D display here.
Oh, cool.
I forgot to mention that.
So give me a second.
And we can actually rotate this and we can look at the uniformity of it from a Z height.
Are you seeing that?
Yeah, I can see that.
That is so cool.
And let me put the scale numbers on here.
We can see now that, I mean, the uniformity, you know, the height is zero, relative.
So it's completely uniform, which means smooth surface, and even less than a micron, a lot less than a micron.
So let me blow your mind.
That's done by hand.
Well, that's...
Nobody else could nail it like you guys do because of the techniques and the years of experience, the hand grinding.
And I still got to thank you for taking the time to hand grind my Windstorm sword because I know that thing took a long time.
You know, I tell you what, I actually personally ground that Windstorm.
Did you?
Yes, I did.
I'm one of the two that could do it in the shop.
And it's tough.
It's a tough play, but, you know, it's like any art, and we take it very seriously.
So when someone starts, it's five years just doing the rough grinding.
So only five years, only doing the rough.
They're not getting down to the finishing.
We've got to make sure that they have the right mechanics.
And then it takes another two years to do all the finishing work and getting them all down to that final stage.
Right now, we have one person that's third generation and...
So he's doing all the grinding.
He's been with us for seven years.
He's a fine young man.
And so we passed that down.
But it's a seven-year process to teach someone how to grind like that, to sharpen them like that.
This is what I want to mention, that we carry a whole line of your products.
If you go to healthrangerstore.com, search for the word knife.
And right here, you'll see, here's Escape from L.A., right here on the left.
And that's got that, actually, let me just click on that because it's got that really funky wedge on the front.
Look at that, right?
That's an escape tool, okay?
That's for prying things open.
And then we've got the mass ratio, bushcrafting, resonance, tactical consequences, covert knife, etc., and then the chef's knives and the other things.
The thing is, folks, when you support Dawson Knives, you're supporting an American company, a third-generation American company, Located in Arizona, sourcing the steel from, I believe, New York.
That's where it comes from, right?
Yeah, so I actually would like to talk about that.
Well, both things, but I'll start with the steel.
It was made by Crucible Industries in Syracuse, New York, and they ended up going out of business in March.
So it's sad that they've been a legacy in this country since 1906.
But they ended up going out because of bad policies from the previous administration.
And so with that, they ended up getting bought out by a French company.
So there is no more powder metal being made in the United States.
Oh, no.
You just can't get it.
They were the last ones.
You're kidding me.
So what we are seeing, I know it's tragic.
It really is tragic.
We knew those people for a long time.
For 50 years, we've been buying steel for them.
And so now...
It's still an amazing facility.
In fact, the powder metal actually comes from Switzerland.
And then they bring it over here.
So, I mean, they do a fantastic job over there.
But we are dealing with 50% tariffs on steel right now, dealing with the EU.
Even though that's separate from Switzerland, it's still coming from France.
So they're dinging us for France.
So it's 50% of the tariffs, and then they had their own inflationary problems, just like we do here.
And so it's another 30%.
So when we are looking at that steel, we just got a huge markup for June to buying the steel.
And then in July, we'll reach that full 80%.
And they're saying it could go as much as 100% in the coming months past that.
Okay, that's...
That sounds like insane international politics.
So here you are, a company that has been buying from Syracuse, New York, for, you said, 50 years.
Yep.
And then the Biden policies of cheap steel imports probably caused this company to go out of business.
And then the tariffs that the Trump administration is putting on this deal from Europe is adding 50% currently.
And then the fact that the Nord Stream pipelines got blown up back in 2022 or whenever that And I'm sure that's part of the 30% factor that you're talking about, right?
Yeah, that's pretty much hit the nail on the head.
Oh, and don't forget, the battle on coal.
That affects steel.
You've got to have coal to make steel.
So that really drove the prices really high with regulations against steel companies here.
So all those factors really came into it.
So that means the prices that people are seeing right now, if you go to healthrangerstore.com, search for knife, and all these prices, which, you know, obviously these are higher than prices of sort of made in China, cheap steel throwaway.
Amazon.com crap.
But these prices are about to take another leap.
Much higher, is what you're saying.
These are the lowest prices people are going to see for the foreseeable future.
Yeah, I mean, we've talked to other guys in our industry, too, about this, because we all got hit with this in June.
And everyone agreed we just can't beat that, you know, 80%.
That's a lot.
No kidding.
So prices are going up everywhere on MagnaCut.
We're going to have to raise our prices.
A lot of these people are going to have to raise their prices.
It's just the way it is.
What you're seeing with all this steel that is on your side, that is the last of the American-made MagnaCut.
Wow.
So that's the last of it.
Once that's gone, I have to place an order in June.
That's one set of increase, so that when I price my other in July, then I'll have a full set of increase on our products.
Wow.
Okay, well, that's going to hurt, obviously.
And it just, you know, people wonder, why is everything so expensive?
Well, this is why.
You just explained it.
You know, 50% tariffs, massive inflation across Western Europe, and the closing down of a longstanding American steel business that we don't want to see go.
I mean, gosh.
I wish there was some way that these changes in policies could help bring that company back, but I guess it's too late.
Yeah, I really wish that American companies would have stepped up in March to buy it.
So people have asked me, why don't you find an American alternative?
Isn't there something in America that you can get?
The answer is no, and we have looked.
Powdered metal, there was only two places making it, this type of powdered metal, and that was the United States, and the other place was Switzerland.
So, losing the United States, well, now we only have the Switzerland.
People will say, well, there's other companies that are American companies, like Carpenter.
Yeah, well, they get it from Switzerland.
So, when you look at it, it's all coming through here.
So, is someone going to step up?
I hope so.
But it takes almost five years with the current regulations to get a steel plant that can do this process.
Oh, yeah.
So it's going to be a premium.
So right now, it's a fantastic deal.
And it's still going to be a deal coming up in the future.
But you're going to have some of the best metal in the world.
And these kitchen knives are heirloom pieces.
And that's what I wanted to talk about, a little bit about us.
And you were mentioning how we're an American company, and we've always sourced everything in the United States since we started this business in 1973.
But now, you know, there's so many things that go on in the world with politics and as we just talked about with our steel.
But even more so than that, and I wanted to share this with your audience, every purchase that happens with these knives, we here at Dawson Knives, we take 10% of that and we follow what Christ teaches.
You know, we feed the hungry, we give drink to the thirsty.
We clothe the naked, and we help those that are alone or in need.
And that's what we take with that money.
We help food banks around in our area and other places in our state and even in this country.
We help with water programs, clean water programs.
So we help with those, and we're getting ready to post a lot of that on our website.
is something we took for granted, but we realized that a lot of companies don't do that.
We also help with And so we take that and we follow those commandments that Christ gives us.
And that's just who we are as a company and how much we love this country in America by trying to keep all the dollars here in this country as much as we can.
Not only employing American workers, but also helping other companies employ American workers.
And then those that are in need in this country, we focus on that and helping them to get a leg up and get back on track.
It's very commendable, and I'm glad you mentioned that because this is about giving back and keeping all of us, keeping the whole system working here.
And times are tough for the American people.
Jobs are being lost.
But, you know, you guys have been Innovating and producing new, incredible new tools that can materially enhance people's lives in the kitchen now, in addition to on the farm or on a ranch or just in a city, whatever.
And by the way, there's a number of tactical guys that I've given your knives to that absolutely love them.
Guys that operate here in Texas at the border.
And they've sent me photos.
It's right, I mean, they mount them on the side of their roof.
It's like the number one tool that, it's their go-to tool.
And those guys put your knives through absolute hell, by the way.
I mean, they'll dig in the sand with your knives.
Like, okay.
Like, they'll do horrible things to your blades that would make you cringe.
Like, pry rocks out of the gravel, you know.
It's like, ah, that's not what knives are for.
But they'll do it.
And they hold up.
Thank you, John, for what you and your family do to help support Americans and help those in need.
Let me bring your attention now.
I have a 2,000 optical magnification, almost like an electron microscope photo of your knife right here.
This is on my microscope.
Wow!
Yeah, so that's 2,000x.
We actually have an electron microscope simulation feature on this scope.
So, that's what you're looking at.
That's what your edge looks like.
Yeah, you know, it's always funny because we always heard from Larry Thomas.
He says, you know, when you get down to the edge, what you don't realize is that you're really having micro serrations.
That's right.
And when you get to that 2,000, that's really what's cutting.
So, it's micro serrations that are going against whatever material you're trying to cut.
That's correct.
Yeah, absolutely.
And I mean...
We can go to 2500.
Let me focus on that.
Let me kick in the electron microscope simulator.
Watch this.
We didn't get the focus quite right there.
I need to go down a little bit more.
There we go.
Let me go right to the edge.
Okay.
Stand by.
It's going to compose that picture.
There it is.
Wow.
2500x.
This is so cool.
You can see those little micro serrations that you're talking about there.
Yep.
This is so cool.
And you can even tell, like, you know, because it's hand-done, you can see just the little bit of the valleys and everything, you know, and just the little difference.
I think this is just remarkable.
Yeah.
This is so cool.
It really shows just the quality of your blade.
In fact, you know what?
I don't even know where I put it, but I bought like a cheap Amazon.
Like a $20 flimsy blade somewhere.
I was going to compare them under the microscope, but I don't even know where that is.
Who cares?
There'd be no comparison.
But tell us about, you know, what's the most common cheap steel that's used for the $20 knives that people buy online or on eBay or at a flea market or a gas station?
You know what they're going to put on it?
Stainless steel.
They're never going to tell you what it is.
Or it's going to have some weird long number.
It'll say 14CR.
So, I mean, they're just putting the composition number MO2.
That's all China has because, you know, they can't name it.
If they name it, it would make no sense and we wouldn't understand it.
So they just put the chemical composition or they just put stainless steel.
And what type of stainless steel?
A lot of it's not even hardened.
I mean, it's just soft steel.
So as soon as you cut with it after a few times, you have to resharpen it, but you can't resharpen it.
You know, that's the thing.
China has been trying to flood this market, and when they flood this market, you buy one of their stuff, or you think, I'm getting a higher quality one, I'm spending $100.
It's still China stuff.
I found out that even some brands that we've seen in the kitchen market that are well-known, That claimed to be American or started there.
All their products are made in China.
My sister-in-law bought one of their chef's knives.
I'm not going to say the brand, but bought one of theirs.
It's very well known.
And it was Chinese steel.
And so we just started testing it.
I was like, well, I mean, maybe there's some craftsmanship or something in this.
But no, we found out the edge retention was, Edge retention was like a two.
So it wasn't that great.
And they were touting it all, and they were really hiding the fact that it's made in China.
But they still had to put it way at the bottom, kind of hidden in the dark, just to try and keep the reputation.
So you're surprised, because then you're just leasing.
You're never going to own anything.
You're just going to have to lease and buy more of the crap, and then you're going to end up having to And that's our whole goal here at Dawson Knives, is to make knives that last for generations that can be passed down that are heirloom quality and American craftsmanship.
You know, I'm glad you mentioned that.
And because of the construction that you use here on the G10 handles, the handle is actually replaceable.
Yeah, so this is the first in our line.
So we call them our Gen 2 lines.
And you can actually change out the handles.
You can buy handles.
You can replace them.
So it's all manufacturing and how we work that with the handles.
But yeah, and plus, if you want to change the color, some people want to change it.
Maybe I like this color.
They can set it up for that.
They can even have one time when they're using it in their kitchen.
And if they wanted a display piece for the holidays, they can change out the handles to a nice, fresh set, and so it looks really impressive.
And that's great, too, because in case the handle were to get damaged, which would still, it would take a lot of abuse because it's all G10 material, you could swap it out.
So, okay, that's just extraordinary.
Let me give the website again, healthrangerstore.com slash chef.
We'll get you the Hearthfire knife.
And let's see, I've got that, I believe, right here.
Yep.
And again, that's pre-order only.
There's only a few hundred sets available, and it's a two- to three-week shipping time on that.
And then we've got the current inventory of the other knives.
This is the last run of the American-made MagnaCut steel.
And after these are sold out, all these machetes and different covert knives, Escape from L.A., after these are sold out, the prices are going to have to go up.
That's just reality.
Hopefully Trump and the EU will figure out something to drop those 50% tariffs, but you never know.
We're hoping, too.
Yeah, I would imagine.
All right.
So how's the situation there in Arizona in terms of job opportunities, or you being able to find people to work for you?
The supply chain, things like that.
How's it working out there?
I'm going to tell you, one good news for us is that most of our material, except for we just talked about the steel, it all comes from the United States.
So that helps us through these supply chain increases that you're seeing.
I mean, you're going to pay a little bit, but at least we're not paying tariffs for anything else.
So that helps us a lot.
As far as the job market out here, it's...
And hiring people is getting really tough.
You know, it's just finding people, A, who want to work, B, who have a work ethic, and C, who are not on drugs or some type of other addiction.
And that's really hard, you know?
And, you know, we minister to a lot of people, and we're very happy about that.
I just noticed that even in our ministry work, that that has grown exponentially.
And especially with what's going on in this country and this nation.
And I'm finding that a lot of the youth are trying to look for God.
So we help them in that.
But as far as hiring, it's hard to find good people.
And we were just fortunate recently.
We just hired somebody.
And this guy is phenomenal.
He's doing really well.
So that's awesome.
It's a tough market.
I'm going to be honest.
It's a tough market out there.
But I know that if we can just continue to emphasize America first and not worry about the rest of the world, we're going to do all right.
Yeah, I completely agree with you.
And I also love the fact that what you're doing is you're keeping this skill set and this tradition alive.
Teaching your family members and other people, you're sharing knowledge about how this is done.
To me, this is absolutely critical.
And I think that one of Trump's political goals, of course, is to bring back manufacturing to America.
Well, you're already manufacturing in America, and the tariffs are hitting you and hurting you, so I wish that wasn't happening.
But overall, what you are doing is what most Americans want.
They want to be able to buy locally.
Folks, if you're watching and you've ever been out to Walmart, you're like, where's the stuff that's made in America?
Here it is.
It's at healthrangerstore.com slash chef.
It's right there.
There's your answer.
It's not as cheap as the Walmart stuff.
Not by a long shot, but it's quality and you'll only have to buy it once.
Remember when you could buy, like back in the 70s, you could buy a refrigerator and it would last 30 years.
I mean, I still, like, my mom has a fridge.
You don't throw them away.
They just run forever.
You know, I think that is so amazing you brought that up because I just, in the last two weeks, had to replace three appliances that were bought right after COVID.
Oh, wow.
I had a refrigerator go out, I had a washing machine go out, and then my oven went out.
And it was ridiculous.
So it came in threes.
And, you know, to repair them, I had them come out.
It cost me as much to repair the wash machine as buying a new one.
Even the guy told me, you know, you're better off buying a new one.
At least you get a five-year warranty.
So I ended up calling and talking to the rep at LG.
And I talked to some of the other reps because, you know, we have some connections in the industry.
And they're just like, look, they're testing them mechanically to last seven years.
But we can't stay in business if they last beyond that.
And as far as the electronics in it, that's anybody's guess.
So you better have a five-year warranty because you're going to end up having to repair it or replace it within that time.
Because that's the only way we can stay in business.
And at least he was up front.
And I appreciate that.
But yeah, I mean, it's no longer the 1980s refrigerator outliving like three generations worth of people anymore.
Yeah, well.
Maybe you guys should get into the refrigerator business next.
Yeah, I have a wrong business.
Alright.
Well, in any case, hey, refrigerators use stainless steel, so at least you have the steel connections there so you know what you're doing.
It's just that every fridge will come with a hollow grind on the front door.
Yeah, that's like a warped mirror image, which would be kind of cool, but I don't know.
Alright, John.
Is there anything else you want to add before we wrap this up?
I think that, you know, I want to finish on this, that we're kind of like a small duck dynasty here.
I have three generations with a family, with three families all working here.
It's amazing now that I get to see the third generation coming through and some of them are starting to get married.
Some of them are just really taking on the trade and just loving it here.
And it just brings so much passion and energy and a lot of this new innovation.
You know, this is really the family farm.
You know, Dawson Ives is like the family farm.
And we try and keep that American tradition.
You know, people that love God, that love this nation, that love to work hard.
And that appreciate and fly the American flag proudly.
And I think that's what we have to do, you know, to bring this nation back is to really just show this love and have this willingness to get in there and say, hey, you know, this is a great place.
Yeah, it's really messed up right now.
There's a lot of things wrong.
And realize, you know, there's a lot of people going through stuff.
But, you know, let's help one another.
You know, I never liked it when Obama came up with this see something, say something.
You know, everyone's, you know, looking at their neighbor weird.
That's not America.
Spying on your neighbors, yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
And so I think that, you know, coming back, bringing Christianity back in, you know, all my kids read the Bible.
It's so cool watching them write in their Bible and, you know, what those scriptures mean to them.
And really helping other people out.
And that's why I love working with your company, Mike.
You guys really embody that.
And I hope to continue this relationship for a very long time.
Well, thank you so much.
And we feel the same way about you.
And it's amazing because we've worked together for a couple of years now, or more than a couple, to innovate these new knife designs that nobody else would have ever come up with, especially Escape from L.A. But also, you know, the machete, the hatchet designs, which you have been an innovator for a long time, for decades.
And then my wildness just got kind of dropped into it with some of these designs.
But I love the fact that we have now this chef's knife.
Again, it's called Hearth Fire.
It's available now.
It's the last chef knife of this size that you'll ever need to buy because it won't break on you.
So go to healthrangerstore.com slash chef.
If you want to take advantage of this before the MagnaCut price increases, kick this thing into an even higher price than it is currently.
So this is actually the lowest price you're going to see ever.
Just ever.
It's even lower than the competition.
I'll tell you that.
Anyone else make MagnaCut and there's only like two other people and it's the lowest out there.
It's because we really appreciate your customers.
They're wonderful.
And I really thank you, Mike, for helping them out.
All right.
Thank you so much.
It's always an honor to have you on, John, and have a wonderful day.
God bless you.
Thanks for joining me today.
It's been fun.
God bless you, Mike.
All right.
Take care.
All right, folks.
There you go.
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