Stephanie MoDavis joins Mike Adams to talk about autoimmune recovery, fear in medicine...
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Welcome to today's interview here at the Brighteon.com studios in Central Texas and I am joined today by an extraordinary man, Corey Endrelott, who has been a repeat guest on our Decentralized TV program.
And he's here in studio with me today to make a big announcement about a new collaboration of multiple speakers and experts who are teaching you how to take your power back and be a lot more in charge of your life, sort of.
Sovereignty over your health, your choices, your medical freedom, your mind, and so much more.
So, Corey, welcome.
It's great to see you in person.
Thank you.
I very much appreciate it.
Austin, Texas, here I am.
Here to introduce the project Health Revealed, right, with you, which is very exciting because there's a lot of medical practitioners that we're reaching out with.
And we have within our ranks, as you know, as you see, We delved into the psychology of authoritarianism very deeply through this project that we see.
You know, there's a lot of people talk about authoritarianism.
A lot of people talk about health and freedom.
But we delved into the psychology of it to a very deep aspect where we also have experience.
And the experience of Stephanie and Leslie and Scott, they blew me away, that I had to bring them together.
That's why we created this project, Health Revealed.
Okay, let me give you a website.
HealthRevealed.org is the site.
There it is.
Of the three guests you just mentioned, can you just give us a quick overview of their areas of expertise?
Leslie is a psychotherapist, a social worker.
She helps with a lot of different people and their trauma.
Trauma is a common theme among these individuals.
I mean, we all live in a...
I mean, it's a rather traumatic process.
So we're all trying to navigate these traumas or shadows within our lives, and we may not see where they are.
So Scott, similarly, is a counselor, is marriage counseling, is a school teacher, focuses a lot on philosophy.
He actually has experience with Scientology.
He escaped it, and he has a lot to say about that.
He's actually bringing a lot of the material from Scientology to the public for free on his work and his websites.
And he has specific methods that not nobody really knows about, which is really powerful.
And then Stephanie, I mean, she has years of experience with like high end medical researchers within the field, helping practitioners, not just helping patients, but practitioners because they need help, too.
Yeah.
And we find that out after, you know, I spoke with her.
I was like, oh, my gosh, wow, we're in trouble.
Like, it's not just the patients as the doctors.
So she has a website, Awakening Healthcare.
And she's got several websites.
She's incredible.
And then I'm a health coach.
So I talk about nutrition, and that's how I started.
That's how I met you and found your work.
So I know health is something that you're really passionate about.
I'm very passionate about.
And as I delve deeper into health, I realize there's all these insurance companies, all these restrictions.
Oh, you can't sell this certain medicine.
It's like you have all this problem of freedom.
It's a control grid, the whole system.
Yes, and then it's not just the physical health, it's the mental health, because you have to care, you have to have the will to want to heal yourself.
And over time, as you delve into that, as I have through your work, which has inspired me and showed me a new path, it opens so many doors.
So how can we awaken the masses and create a health revolution in full?
This is what we're here to do.
Right now, we have a lot of people talking about reforms.
We have RFK Jr., who I've interviewed as head of HHS.
I wish him the best, absolutely, but he's in a deep, deep swamp, a control grid system.
And so far, they've only been able to announce things like banning food dyes, which, granted, okay, that's a great small step in the right direction, but it's nowhere what we need.
We need to dismantle the infrastructure We don't need central authorities to tell us what is healing at all, in my opinion.
And we live in an interconnected world where people can vote on whose work is effective, whether it's a Chinese medicine practitioner or a doctor.
We don't need government to tell us what is healing.
Dr. Andrew Kaufman, his main motto is, "Be your own health authority." Exactly.
And for years, people say, "Vote with your dollars." And now all of a sudden we're voting in politics, but we have to be careful here because is that really where freedom lives?
Or is it with the individual understanding that they have to take charge of their own health and nobody else can do that for them?
They have to be responsible over their own ownership, their own self-ownership.
And do we recognize that as a principle?
In scientific studies, we would consider unethical if there's no consent within that study.
But how many people consent to the mass experiment?
of the vaccines, of the mass experiment, of the laws that are pushed upon the population on the daily.
Well, yeah, you make a really great point.
How many people consented to fluoride in the water?
How many people consented to the FDA banning herbs, like the Chinese herb ma huang, which has been used for thousands of years to defeat pandemics, for example.
So, you're right.
We have not consented to this system.
We are enslaved under it, but individually, and this is what your information is about, and this is part of what I've taught for so many years, is we can learn how to take back our power from that system and find freedom in an unfree world.
Right.
And look at all these different doctors, right?
I mean, and you can pull this on the screen if you want.
One of our slides from our seminar, I mean, this is just a list of doctors, and you probably know many of them, who have left the system or who had problems, you know, with the system.
And, you know, they had to quit their jobs because of what happened in recent years.
There's a big convergence happening with health and freedom, people who are lawyers as well, right?
And so what we're trying to do is bring it all together through our material and then doing mass outreach and collaboration.
And we invite everybody out there to join us.
On this, and then we want to introduce an idea that has not been talked about.
Democide is known as one of the top causes of death in the world.
Yes.
Like, leading.
We have the statistics on our website as well.
But first, tell me what folder am I going to find these slides under?
Yeah, so we have it on our website.
The whole seminar.
And people can access it on the homepage, healthrevealed.org.
You can scroll down there.
You'll see there's a video trailer, which is pretty epic and awesome.
You should check it out.
And then you'll see there's a bunch of slides that you can download.
There's a newsletter you can sign up for.
There's a button that says collaborate with us.
And you can see you can download the slides, the PDF, the image options.
We have everything.
And one of the ideas that is core to this work is introducing an idea called statism, which is a belief system.
You can call it a social psychopathology that a lot of medical individuals don't understand or people in the freedom community don't understand.
And this, I believe, is the root cause to democide, which is this belief system.
And the number, in fact, I probably think is way higher than even the estimations I created, like third top cause of death worldwide.
I think it's even higher.
There's spurts in history, like World War II, right, where you see mass amounts of soldiers.
So what caused that to happen?
You know, there's an illness happening, a mental illness of people saying, I should not...
I should not be my own health authority.
What's going on here?
They're being suppressed.
They're being deceived.
This is a big problem psychologically.
And actually, Abraham Maslow mentioned that if we want to reach self-actualization, right, or self-fulfillment...
We need to understand these ideas of freedom and statism.
He specifically said this about anarchism, and he said people don't really understand what this word is.
So we guide people through all sorts of ideas from all different political spectrums to help them see their own psychology, their own shadows, and then how that relates to the medical empire, because medicine has always been weaponized by the governments to control the people.
Absolutely.
Yeah, that has been the case for a long time.
Okay.
So, again, the website where people can find this is healthrevealed.org, and there you've got, what, videos, downloads, PDFs?
You can click on our individual faces as well, and you'll see we each have our own site pages.
So if you go to my site page, you know, if you click on my face, you'll see I interviewed over 30 people on their personal experience with statism.
We have psychology experiments, Dr. Stanley Milgram, Stanford Prison, going through the psychology of that.
You know, and this is all stuff that a lot of people don't know about.
They may have heard of those experiments, but the scientists are like, oh, well, there's no way we can cure this.
We don't know why people did what they did.
We are actually showing why people exactly followed orders and did what they, you know, were told to do, suppressing their conscience, unleashing massive bloodshed.
It's people.
It's not the one person, Adolf Hitler or Stalin, who gives the order.
It's the millions that follow them.
And so that's what the superstition of statism is.
Larkin Rose details it in his movie, The Jones Plantation, and we bring it together through the medical community.
So I believe for anybody out there who's a practitioner, this will be very helpful.
And then tying that together with, you know, how do we change the medical system?
Because if we are free, right, mentally and we are free physically, I mean, this could be perhaps the greatest benefit to our health, in fact.
I've long wished there would be a state that would declare itself to be a health freedom zone that says the FDA has no jurisdiction in this state.
We're going to allow every form of medicine with consent and with disclaimers.
So you sign a disclaimer and you can go in and you can get an intravenous natural vitamin C anti-cancer therapy right here in Texas, which is currently illegal.
Doctors have been arrested for that.
But you can go get it in Mexico, you can go get it in other places.
why don't we have it here and then whatever state declared health freedom would have So everybody from America would come to Texas for cutting-edge treatments that work, whether it's chlorine dioxide or hematozyme, DMSO, you name it, all these things that work.
But, of course, Texas won't do that because the Texas Medical Board is run by pharma, and that's true across all the states.
Anyway, you already know this.
Yes, and so we're trying to recreate a new system.
Right?
And part of that, as you know, you interviewed Jim Gale, is creating permaculture spots.
Like, this is just a design.
You can have this.
Like, this is a design that we're doing in Newport Ritchie in Florida, around Tampa, right?
But this can incorporate practitioners.
This can incorporate growing food.
This can incorporate natural medicine and people coming together and building community and neighborhoods.
Like, this is all happening.
And it's all converging at once.
So we're going into that momentum, sharing the ideas that aren't being shared.
And then saying, hey, here we have it laid out for you and let's create a whole platform where we can do this.
And we have a platform.
We have a mapper on the website.
People can add in their own information.
They can network with other people.
It's all there.
So I greatly appreciate this.
Well, that's fantastic.
Okay, so tell us about your first speaker that we're going to interview here because she's here.
Yes, Stephanie Moe Davis.
She is absolutely incredible.
She inspires me every time I hear her speak.
And she's, you know, really empathetic because she dealt with that very rigid, scientific, you know, you can say left brain world for a long time.
And she also had so many medical experiences.
Like she told you, like, she shouldn't be here.
And one of the first things she told me was like, I should be dead right now.
I'm like, oh my gosh, are you serious?
But it's true.
I mean, you look at her experiences, and it's like, how did she recover?
And how is she helping other doctors do the same?
Yeah, her bio says she had a couple of organ transplants.
Yes.
Yeah, so she can go deep into that.
That's a serious deal, yeah.
Yes.
So we're not just talking.
We have experience in the system, and then how do we transform out of that?
Now, my role, I'm like a main organizer.
I bring people together, right?
So I saw within these individuals something that was like, you know, these are the individuals I believe if I bring them together.
We can really transform things.
We've got the experience.
We've got the system.
We've got people like Jim Gale who's building systems outside of this too.
How can we integrate those solutions together?
We want to invite your audience to join us in that process.
Fantastic, Corey.
Thank you for wearing our Natural News logo.
That's the original logo with the green earth with the leaves.
That's awesome.
It's like a superman logo.
Bring in Stephanie, and we'll introduce Stephanie.
Thank you.
I very much appreciate it.
Thank you, Corey.
All right.
All right.
Welcome back, folks.
We have with us now Stephanie Moe Davis as part of the Health Revealed interview series and educational series with Corey Endrelott.
Thank you.
Stephanie, I'm looking at your bio, and I'm just astonished by the experiences that you've gone through.
So you're going to have to give our audience an introduction of your background.
Sure.
I'm happy to be here.
Thank you so much for all the work that you do in the world.
And thank you to Corey for organizing this powerful group of people and this movement, this initiative that hopefully We know that it's very difficult.
I kind of come in with a patient experience, someone who's had to live within the system and deal with the limitations and the disconnections within the system from my own experience.
So, sadly, in my early 20s, late teens, I was mysteriously diagnosed with an autoimmune condition, which is growing so common nowadays, women getting autoimmune diseases, people getting autoimmune issues.
But I was misdiagnosed for a year, sadly, with about five different doctors.
Diagnosing me from everything to osteoarthritis to Crohn's disease to Lyme's disease.
They had no idea what was wrong with me until it was too late.
So I ended up in the hospital in the ER having a life or death experience when I was 20 years old.
Wow.
And that's when they discovered that I had something called systemic lupus erythematosus, which is basically when every system in your body is reacting against itself, which is what an autoimmune disease is.
Of course, they had no idea why this happened.
I was otherwise very healthy.
I was a yoga teacher.
I was big into nutrition.
I was eating wonderfully.
My relationships were good.
So nobody had an answer as to why all of a sudden my body started to turn against itself.
Basically, they said, whatever you're doing, which was a lot of natural things, a lot of yoga, meditation, a lot of Eastern philosophy, trying to keep myself grounded and peaceful.
The Western medical doctor said to me, whatever you're doing, it's not working.
Stop it now, and you have to just start on our protocol, which was high dose of steroids and a whole bunch of experimental medications to get my immune system to start to quiet down.
Let me ask you, looking back though, was it exposure to something?
Was it toxins?
You know what I think?
I think it was a combination of Stress.
A little bit of anxiousness, just being a young woman in the world today.
Stress that was undealt with.
And also, I lived at a farmhouse that sprayed pesticides outside of my control on the corn there.
So that was about the same time that this started happening to me when I was surrounded in this environment where heavy pesticides were being sprayed on the farmland.
So, yeah, yeah.
Pesticide exposure, especially inhaled, repeatedly can definitely be a factor there.
Okay, I didn't mean to interrupt, but you went through this experience with the medical system, and I take it that what they demanded that you do did not work?
They were trying many things, but they had no solid answer.
And basically they always wanted to give me an answer of what I had or what to do, and often it didn't work.
And I started to learn very early on that I was giving myself over to a professional system that really didn't have the answers.
So I had to learn to first find a provider that I could trust who at least was willing to tell me the truth and say, I'm not exactly sure what's going on here.
And to just simply find a provider who has that humility.
To say, we don't really know, but we're going to try this.
That was my first line of order.
And in the meantime, my health was declining.
But my need to find a provider who was going to be able to work with me in a way where he could be honest and provide things that weren't going to just make me worse was my first line of order, is to find the right provider.
And did you?
I ended up, I went through many providers, probably about 8 to 10 providers, before I found the first doctor.
Who sat down with me and he said, Stephanie, I want to know a little bit about your history.
What was your family life like?
Do you have stress?
Do you have anxiety?
What's your diet like?
And immediately when he started asking me those questions, I could feel the emotions bubbling up within me and I immediately started to cry because it was the first doctor who was inquisitive enough and took the time to try to get to know me as a person.
Wow.
Yeah, and at that point, I knew within me something with my illness is also emotional because I could feel that reaction that I had when they gave me the time to say, I want to get to know you.
What's your life like?
Where have you lived?
Do you have any trauma?
So I knew that was a big part of my issue, and I just knew at that moment that I had multiple things to deal with besides staying alive and getting proper treatment.
I also knew at that moment there's an inner process going on here that I've never really been attuned to, and I have to start to be introspective as well with my own health and my life if I'm going to actually recover and survive.
And I just want to point out, before medicine was centralized and everything was turned into a formulaic protocol, local doctors that made house visits They knew people.
They knew what you did for a living.
They knew your family history.
They knew your history.
They had personal chat time.
It wasn't like two and a half minutes per patient and then build the insurance company.
But today, medicine's been turned into a robotic factory where doctors have to follow these protocols that are pushed from a centralized control system and they're not even allowed.
To really know their patients.
They've taken the humanity out of medicine.
It's absolutely true.
And this doesn't even begin to tell you how I felt when I started to go into organ failure from the autoimmune disease.
And then I got put on that conveyor belt, like you're saying.
I had to go on to dialysis when I was 25 years old.
Oh wow.
If you're not familiar with dialysis, it's actually way more common than anybody could ever imagine.
The amount of Americans who have kidney disease and who are on hemodialysis, and their centers all over and everywhere.
Every other day you have to go get your blood filtered or you're not going to survive.
But that's when I really started to feel the...
You're on like a conveyor belt.
Like you go in, you get this treatment, everybody gets the same medication, everybody does the same thing.
And all of my autonomy was really stripped away from me.
So when I started to question the doctors about, well, hey, I want to try this.
And what about this therapy?
And what about nutrition?
And what about, you know, let me get back to my yoga and meditation.
They didn't want to have anything to do with it.
They really started to filter me into this system where it was their way or the highway.
I had no options of being sovereign in my own experience of my care.
So what was the turning point in all of this?
The turning point was I had a kidney transplant at age 30 at Johns Hopkins, and then I had a second transplant after 10 years of that kidney functioning at NYU.
And what happened was my doctors, I would find often, they would say to me, you've been through hell and back.
How are you able to look and perform as well as you do?
Where do you get your energy?
None of my patients recover like you do.
What is your secret?
And when I started to tell the doctors what my secret was, which was nutrition that they weren't offering me, it was, I'm doing a lot of inner work, I'm addressing my trauma, I'm surrounding myself in healthy environments, not just people, but within my grounds, my home.
It was the holistic approach.
It was me bringing in holistic intelligence into my experience.
And when I started to share that with them, certain doctors were very intrigued and they asked me to help and be on special teams for certain VIP patients.
But then when it came to me actually wanting to make this more of a movement and have a shift within the system to offer patients holistic ways to deal with their illness or their chronic illness or their issues, they really didn't know what to do with me.
And in fact, I had a pioneer in the transplant surgery world say to me, Stephanie, everything that you're saying is so incredibly needed for all of our patients.
Patient outcomes would be so much better.
But I have no idea what to do with you.
I don't have the power to change this system.
Well, because what you offer is not part of the protocol that we talked about.
Let me give out your website.
It's stephaniemodavis.com, correct?
That's right.
M-O-D-A-V-I-S, just like it sounds.
That's right.
Right, stephaniemodavis.com.
Okay, here's your site, stephaniemodavis.com.
That's right.
And so I take it that now, oh, here's some of your projects, etc.
And so with the coaching, so you help people with the holistic, multi-layered healing the whole soul that has to happen.
That's right.
I think within every illness is an opportunity for spiritual recalibration.
And to adjust your emotional, you know...
And it can be a transformational process.
And when you're involved in the Western medical model, it's more of a militaristic left-brain battle.
We've got to get this.
We've got to kill this.
We've got to get rid of this disease.
Carpet bomb the body with chemo.
Exactly.
And I've had to be in this system as well as be outside of it because I needed an organ transplant.
So I was forced to be a part of this Western medical model.
And I understand in certain cases it's very useful.
We need to expand our minds, open our minds, allow other people into the system.
Otherwise, we're going to just have to build a parallel one.
Regardless of who runs it is never going to become the system that humanity needs because it's always going to be based on really materialistic or mechanical protocols where doctors and surgeons are mechanics and the presence of mind-body interaction is given no credibility at all where most doctors don't believe in the existence of the spirit.
Or consciousness, or a creator for that matter, or anything in that realm.
It's astonishing to me, they know that some molecules have therapeutic effects, but they think those molecules only come synthetically from pharmaceutical factories, but not from nature, which is where many of the pharmaceuticals were originally modeled after, like statin drugs, for example.
But they dismiss nature.
So how do you teach people?
Some pushback from a mainstream person who goes to the pharmacy every day, they go to the doctor, and they're captured by the system.
How do you extricate them or help them make that journey to greater health freedom?
I live a little bit in two worlds.
I live in the world where there are patients really continuously Connected and addicted to the system because they're not finding the solutions they need.
So they're able to look outside of the box and say, well, here's this woman who's overcome this incredible challenge, has had multiple organ transplants, been on hemodialysis.
Look at her.
She looks like a model of health.
I'm curious, what did you do?
So there are those people who reach out, and then there are people who, sadly, the system, what it does is it can emphasize the addiction to a victim mindset.
In the organ transplant community, for instance, it's a very specific community, and there does need to be a monitoring of the patient, but what happens is the patients start to bind together and make their identity the label of their illness.
They get addicted to the label of their illness.
That's right.
So then they're restricted in how much they can actually transform and heal because they can't go too far out of that system and look too good because then they don't have their culture of people who are addicted.
And therefore, if you do this, you can transcend that and have a full life based off of holistic intelligence and really just transcend that limited victim mindset model.
And when I come out as that individual, The system, I'm a little bit of a pariah within the patient experience system because I honor what they say, but I don't let it dictate my life.
I don't have a negative or an addictive attachment to the system and the providers.
I'm my own person.
I'm choosing what I'm doing for my body in an intelligent way.
I prefer holistic intelligence.
I love diet, nutrition, yoga, meditation, love.
Connection, interconnectedness, and everything about the Western medical model, sadly, is disconnected into parts, and there's nobody putting the parts back together into the whole human being who can transcend their illness, not just be somebody with a diagnosis.
Yeah, well said.
The mechanical layer of our body doesn't heal without the inner light, the spirit.
And that's completely unaddressed by all of this.
So you're ruffling a few feathers in the medical community, probably.
May I ask, and I'm sorry if this is too personal, but do you have only one functioning kidney right now or two functioning kidneys?
Yeah, I actually have one functioning kidney, but technically I have four.
So when somebody goes through kidney failure, in order to get a kidney transplant, both of the kidneys, the native kidneys, have to not be functioning.
You will not be able to receive a kidney transplant if you have one functioning kidney, because many people can live on one functioning kidney.
When any organ in your body is no longer functioning, it atrophies.
the blood supply diminishes to the organ and the organs actually shrink in size.
So my native kidneys that are in the upper back They just kind of shrivel and atrophy up.
And then when you get a kidney transplant, typically they insert it in the front lower abdomen and attach it to the femoral artery.
So my first transplant was in my left side here.
That lasted for about 11 years.
Sadly, the medication for transplantation isn't that So believe it or not, the kidney transplant medication is nephrotoxic, which doesn't make sense.
So at some point, they're quieting my immune system to not have my immune system attack the foreign tissue, but often it'll start to diminish the actual functioning of the kidneys.
So then my second one is in my lower right abdomen, so one functioning kidney.
And doing great.
Yeah, well, and because I think No, absolutely not.
If you were a typical American consumer, That is eating a lot of toxic foods and using toxic personal care products, toxic environment, etc.
I think that one kidney would be very stressed.
Well, this is what's happening in the organ transplant world, is there's a lot of replacements, there's a lot of poor health outcomes, there's a lot of intense stress and fear of losing the kidney, and the only solution they have is, There's nothing, what is your relationships like?
Let's talk about your diet.
There's just such a loss of opportunity for people to have better health outcomes by not addressing any of this.
Right, and there's so many kidney-supporting herbs and foods, superfoods and nutrients, and even some experimental substances as well.
Yeah.
So when you...
Is that one of your main activities now, is helping others through health coaching?
It is.
I usually find people who are very desperate for somebody to provide them an alternative to what they've been offered.
So typically what that looks like is a little bit of dietary advice, but a lot of emotional support, a lot of sharing with them the experience of what to expect, and a lot of empowerment and encouragement.
And a lot of me saying to them, you're not limited to what the system tells you to be, and you don't have to be afraid.
You can do this.
You can absolutely do this and transform your life into something even better than you thought, but don't get sucked in by the system and be afraid of chronically going to the doctor and having them instill fear in you.
You have to really work on your mindset.
I'm sorry to be blunt here, but how do you have the vaccine conversation with people?
Because one of the number one causes of kidney failure is vaccinations because of the toxic adjuvants and so on.
Dr. Suzanne Humphries, who wrote that book, Dissolving Illusions, she used to work at dialysis centers, and she saw it.
Vaccinated people, kidney failure.
Vaccinated people, kidney failure.
But people are programmed that vaccines are good for you, and the more you get, the better you are, which is never actually the case in the outcomes.
But that's almost a religion with a lot of people.
It very much is.
And a lot of the people that I work with, it doesn't come up in conversation because I'm already under the assumption that they are vaccinated or even double-vaxxed because that's what the system tells you to do.
In fact, up until very recently, you couldn't get a kidney transplant post-COVID unless you were multi-vaxxed.
Oh, good point.
People have passed away from being declined organs from not being vaccinated.
Right.
Which is so bizarre because vaccines...
Yep, it's just part of the protocol.
So they are actually, a lot of the system, they're contributing to harm, not realizing or not just being courageous enough to move out of this system.
They're saving and hurting and harming and killing at the same time.
Wow.
Yeah.
Wow.
Uh-huh.
Okay, so for people, I'm very active in Health Revealed now, so this aggregate of providers that are coming together to try to give patients autonomy to choose what's going to heal them.
We shouldn't have a monopoly on healing.
So part of my role right now is really providing patients and even providers, because a lot of providers, I've discovered, have a lot of the same issues, a lot of fears.
And I try to provide them the empowerment necessary to realize that we can We can transform and heal if you look at your life holistically.
And I'm the example, so I don't have to sell anything.
I say, look, since 20, I've been on hemodialysis five years.
I've had two organ transplants.
And look at what can be done if you just adopt this.
And you have to be courageous.
You have to be courageous.
and you have to be willing to go against the things that are also providing you support and be able to parse your way through it.
And really a lot of my work right now revolves around...
And just saying, you can do this.
You can do this.
Don't be afraid.
I'm really glad you mentioned that because fear is a weapon of control of the medical system.
And knowledge is your counterbalance or your defense against all that fear.
So I've seen this again and again.
Remember the breast cancer genes, the BRCA genes.
And I think this is still happening to this day, but women, they submit to a genetic test.
That's right.
And then the doctor tells them, well, you have the breast cancer genes.
Yeah.
Right there.
And the patient says, but I don't have breast cancer.
I have no symptoms of breast cancer.
And the doctor, the surgeon, will say, well, just to be safe, we better have a double mastectomy.
That's right.
Like, what?
Right.
What?
You notice they don't say that to men.
You might have testicular cancer.
Let's cut off your nutsack.
They never do that to men.
But mostly the male surgeons say that to women.
Let's cut off your breasts.
And the trauma, the psychological trauma, the image of self, everything that goes along with that is completely dismissed by these surgeons.
I'm sorry to be so raw about this, but this happens.
You're absolutely right.
And do you know that kidneys in Chinese medicine represent fear?
The emotion connected to kidneys is fear.
If you think of the agenda over the last several years, it's been just promoting fear like crazy.
If I could send a message, the most important thing anybody could do, in my opinion, from my experience, especially if you're dealing with any sort of illness, chronic illness, long-term COVID, whatever it may be, is address your fear.
And start to really find that courage within you to do what your body and your spirit already knows how to do.
The system is very disconnected.
When we stay disconnected from our heart and soul, we stay disconnected from possibility and transformation.
So anybody out there listening, if you have that fear, and a lot of people don't know they have it, but you'll know you have it by different reactions that you have.
I think if we can learn to trust, spirit tells us what we need.
We can listen.
We can develop intuition.
But the system keeps us disconnected from that spirit and that potential.
Well, I'm even thinking about how fear is part of the matrix of our Western understanding of reality.
For example, I live on a ranch, and we have a lot of barbed wire.
Now, on any given day, if you scratch your arm on a piece of rusted barbed wire, what does everybody tell you?
Oh, you better go get a tetanus shot.
Everybody says that.
But if you actually look at tetanus, you realize, well, no, it has to be something that comes from some other infected animal that first somehow scraped itself on that, and then you would have to then encounter the same thing within a certain period of time.
That rusty nails and rusty fences do not give you tetanus.
But everybody thinks it does because they've been taught that by fear.
But even the medical literature doesn't claim that that's the case.
Rust is iron oxide, does not give you tetanus.
But everybody thinks it does.
So fear is embedded in people.
It's embedded.
And working with patients, what I realized, I've been asked to work at Hopkins and NYU and different institutions on high-level teams.
The patients weren't the only ones embodying the fear.
Yeah.
I'm telling you.
The providers, there's an element of control within the system.
There's this weird hierarchy of the all-knowing physician and then the patient who doesn't know what to do for their health.
That hierarchy is very dangerous, but I've really met a lot of really amazing pioneering surgeons and doctors, and they are just as afraid.
They just put on that white coat, and they can pretend differently that they're not.
They have a lot of fear.
That's wild.
Yeah.
Well, let me share one experience with you, just to kind of reinforce what you're talking about.
About two years ago, I almost severed my index finger in a farm accident, and it was cut from the tendon all the way to the knuckle like this.
And looking at it now, you can't tell at all.
You can see a little bit right here.
And I'm not saying that everybody should do this.
But I chose not to go to an emergency room.
I chose not to get stitches.
And it was a horrible, gaping wound.
But through the healing process, and I used lion's mane mushroom.
I used topical support.
I used manuka honey.
I used a lot of things.
But I never had fear.
And you know what?
I never experienced pain.
Not even from the moment of the injury.
I never had any pain.
And even looking at it, I was a little bit shocked.
But you know what I knew?
I knew that the body has essentially an energetic grid to restructure cells.
And I knew that I would regrow the nerve cells, the blood cells, and the skin cells.
And even partial tendon tears.
I had faith in the body's ability to do that.
And sure enough, that's exactly how it played out.
And I didn't lose my finger, and I never went to...
Wow.
I'm glad you didn't lose your finger, and I was very brave that you did that, but you're absolutely right, is if your mindset understands what your body's natural capabilities are, and you have trust and faith in that process, and you're intelligent about it.
And knowledge.
I knew about, you know.
Topical antiseptics and manuka honey and things like that.
Right.
You can.
And I think so much of our system, the Western medical system today, relies on the fact that we don't know, we don't have the education, and the proselytization of the fear constantly.
I think the fear actually contributes to more pain in the body.
Absolutely.
So I think that upstream of a lot of our issues that we have is that we have an emotional body and a mental body that's under a profound amount of stress and anxiety and pressure.
And I think if we could really address that, And I think if more people did that, the rates of pain and chronic illness and all of these things would radically reduce.
But there's people that are invested in that not happening, as we know.
That's true.
Okay.
This is amazing.
Last question for you, Stephanie, is when you chose this path, Did you lose friends?
Did your social circle change?
Did you find new friends who were aligned with your beliefs?
What happened to you socially around that?
First, I have to say that I didn't choose this path, it chose me.
It's just intuitively, it comes through, this is who you are.
And the more I had the courage in the Western medical model, because I was so connected to it, the more I had the courage to say, this isn't who I am.
I understand what it's useful for and I understand what it's not.
And even though I'm a part of this community, I have to start breaking away and being courageous to go against it.
I absolutely lost friends.
And I have providers today who will say, she has a record of being slightly complicated because I'm intelligent and ask a profound amount of questions about my health.
Yeah, don't dare ask questions.
Yeah, I'm accused of that too.
I've actually had doctors say, you know, you might not be the most compliant, best patient.
And I said, well, do you see my blood work and do you see me and do you see what I'm producing?
You might not be looking at this correctly because I think actually I'm quite the epitome of health.
And maybe you want to listen to what I say and not try to label me as being something bad.
I'm actually doing something right.
But it's outside of their scope.
So I indeed lost friends.
I've gained respect from certain people at higher levels because they can see past the indoctrination and they are very curious of how did you be able to transform like this.
But then of course, just like my colleagues that are here with me today, I've really met and been embraced by like minds, and it's not just their intelligence, it's their love, their heart, their awareness of spirit, and that we're beyond this physical body and just left brain mechanistic thinking.
They're caring, they're loving, they want to be connected, and in my opinion, that's the world that I want to live in, and I'm not going to settle for any less.
Perfect.
That's fantastic.
Well, thank you so much, Stephanie, for what you're doing.
Let me give out your website again.
Your personal site is And you're one of the speakers of Corey's healthrevealed.org event that we're helping to share with everybody.
So, you know, I'm just so thankful that you're in the world here, and thank you for sharing your story with us.
Thank you so much, Mike.
It was so nice to meet you.
Thanks for all you do.
Nice to meet you, too.
All right, folks, there you go.
Stephanie Moe Davis, and what an extraordinary woman.
And look, the key takeaway from all of this, in my view, is do not let fear be your jailer.
And fear is a manipulated method to control you and to limit your options.
And fear is deliberately used by the medical establishment to try to convince you to take actions that are opposed to your own self-interest.
It doesn't mean that there aren't good doctors out there.
There are good doctors.
There are well-meaning people in the medical system.
But they may not have the knowledge base that you have or that we're sharing with you as part of this.
Work with them as best you can.
And if you have a doctor that's very insistent and very arrogant, I would say that if they haven't noted in your chart that you are, quote, argumentative, then you are not doing enough to defend yourself as a patient.
So thank you for watching and many other interviews ahead here.
I'm Mike Adams of brighteon.com.
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