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May 23, 2025 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams

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Aaron Abke on the history of Christian writings, the real Yeshua and why God's laws go far beyond...

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	Welcome to today's interview here at Brighteon.com.
	I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon, and today we have a very special guest in studio.
	Someone who I think is a profound teacher about the nature of our reality and how it intertwines with our beliefs of spirituality and the history of religion and so much more.
	His name is Aaron Abke.
	A-B-K-E is how you spell that.
	And his website is AaronAbke.com.
	And he's also created something called 4D University, which we'll talk about here.
	Welcome to the studio, Aaron.
	Thanks for having me, brother.
	It's an honor.
	It's an honor to have you here.
	First of all, I just have to publicly state that I have thoroughly enjoyed your teachings and your analysis.
	It's been so instructional and really revelatory.
	So thank you for what you do.
	Amazing.
	I know it takes a lot of courage.
	It takes a little bit.
	Yeah.
	A little bit, yeah.
	Now, can you just...
	Yeah, I'm a third generation pastor's son.
	So I grew up in the church, evangelical church.
	And I wanted to be a pastor like my father and grandfather and follow in their footsteps.
	So I began leading worship probably around 13 or 14 and was really into music.
	Like my whole family is extremely musical.
	We all play worship together, mom, dad, sister, and myself.
	So that was my upbringing, and it was honestly an incredible, beautiful upbringing.
	I would not trade it for the world.
	I loved church.
	I loved God.
	I loved Jesus.
	I loved everything about the way I was raised.
	But my dad's church, our church, was on the very fringes of what you might call Protestant Christianity in terms of our beliefs.
	To us, religion was like a dirty word.
	We would use it like that.
	Like, oh, come on, that's religious.
	Don't be like that.
	Really?
	Oh, yeah.
	We thought we were very, and we were in many regards, but we thought we were very progressive and all of that.
	So my dad, I didn't grow up listening to my dad preach fire brimstone sermons.
	It was always about the love of God, the love of Jesus, forgiveness.
	And, you know, he would teach about, like, we did technically believe biblical inerrancy, hell, the rapture, and so forth.
	We just didn't like to talk about it much.
	I didn't emphasize it.
	So I didn't have to really wrestle with those doctrines.
	But I went to Oral Roberts University for college to get a bachelor's degree in music and theology to become a worship pastor.
	And I started confronting those dogmas more because ORU is a much more fundamentalist school than my church was.
	But it wasn't until I took my first full-time church job at 23 as a full-time worship pastor that the church I was working at was very fundamentalist.
	And it really woke me up to these beliefs that I'm like, you know, So I had a bit of an awakening out of religion at 23, 24. And may I ask, where did you pastor in the U.S.?
	It was a church called Crossroads Bible Church in San Jose, California, where I grew up.
	So it was my city I grew up in, basically.
	And yeah, I just got to the point where I said, look, I can't handle this internal conflict.
	I feel I'm up on stage every week leading worship and singing things I don't believe, you know, it just wasn't right.
	And so I told my pastor I'm quitting and I moved back to Oklahoma with my then wife, Christian wife.
	We got married very, very young and just started seeking in new ways to discover what do I believe about God and mostly Eastern traditions and whatnot.
	but maybe seven or eight years after studying enlightenment teachings really came back to full circle to Jesus again.
	And I feel could finally understand this enigmatic character that we've so deified and personified away from ourselves, you know, through religion that I found like this was a real man, Yeshua Hanotrim, Jesus, the Nazarene who lived just a life, just like I'm living.
	And he came to realize certain things, And he had a very, very different gospel message than what, you know, Roman Catholic Church would teach today.
	And that's when I began to get passionate about teaching this stuff to the world.
	Wow.
	Well, that's an incredible experience there.
	Let me relate how I encountered you.
	Sure.
	Because I was looking for answers on some of the contradictions as well.
	So last year, I started a church here, the Church of Natural Abundance.
	It's just a simple community church to come together and give out a lot of donations that we receive.
	We have this natural abundance.
	We get a ton of donations of useful things.
	That's very Jesus, by the way.
	Well, I mean, we're just called to do that.
	So then I began, for the first time, I read the Bible last year, for the first time in my life.
	And I began to interpret it with sermons, even just explaining, look, I'm a beginner, but this is how I see these things.
	And at first, a lot of people said, wow, this is a really great, fresh perspective.
	I never thought about it this way.
	And then, as I learned more, and I began to ask questions, then things began to shift.
	So I believe in universal love.
	Universal consciousness, that consciousness pervades all of us, every human being on this planet.
	And I began to ask questions like, what about the people that lived in the time of Christ, but they lived in China or India or Mesoamerica and they never had the chance to meet Jesus or even to be around his teachings at all?
	According to the Christian tradition, all those people burn in hell for eternity, even if they're really good people.
	Meanwhile, A murderer, a rapist, a horrible person in Jesus' time, as long as they repent and confess that they believe in Jesus, at least according to what Paul teaches, then they go to heaven.
	That did not compute to me.
	That's when I started to search.
	That's when I found your work.
	Makes sense.
	Just asking questions.
	Yeah.
	And then that's when I started to lose a lot of the Christian followers who were like, you can't ask these questions.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So what was your experience like?
	I mean, being in a Christian family, almost a, well, progressive Christian family, did you, I mean, I don't mean to butt into your business, but.
	Well, you alluded to your former wife.
	Yeah.
	Did you lose friends?
	Did you lose colleagues when you began this journey?
	Lost everything.
	Really?
	Complete reset.
	Wow.
	And that's why it took me so long to really pull the trigger.
	Because I knew from, I was about 17 years old, reading the Bible every day like I always would.
	And I'll never forget reading, I think it's Psalm 51, where David has this beautiful exposition where he says, You do not delight in sacrifice, or else I would give it.
	You do not desire a burnt offering, but the sacrifices of God are a broken and humble spirit.
	This is the sacrifice, O God, that you will not despise.
	And I remember reading that and just being struck with how beautiful it is.
	And I had the thought, you do not delight in sacrifice or else I would give it.
	What do you mean, David?
	The Bible's full of passages where God demands sacrifice and says he delights in it and says, I delight in the smell of your burnt offerings.
	Give me the fatted calf and burn it on my altar.
	What do you mean you don't desire this?
	That's a contradiction, right?
	And I didn't know how to square that.
	And then just started seeing, as I read more, I wouldn't read the prophets that much as like a young teenage Christian.
	Like, why would you do that, you know?
	It's kind of boring.
	But I started getting into the prophets more and realizing like, Hosea, Habakkuk, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jeremiah, Amos, all of these prophets, Micah, angrily condemn animal sacrifices.
	And yet Leviticus is full of commandments of sacrifices.
	So I started to have these weird internal conflicts and by probably 20, I'm wrestling with the rapture and hell and all these dogmas that I'm like, I can't make any sense out of this stuff.
	But it took me till 23, 24 to finally pull the trigger because I knew full well.
	If I come out and say like, look guys, I don't really believe these things anymore.
	Still love Jesus with all my heart.
	And in fact, that's why I don't believe these things.
	Me too.
	But I knew I would lose everything.
	And I was absolutely correct.
	Everybody in my life, other than my parents and sister, every friend I had was Christian, all my family, everyone I ever knew was Christian.
	Christian college, Christian high school, Christian church.
	I didn't know a single person that wasn't a fundamentalist Christian.
	No kidding.
	Yeah.
	So it was a tough swing.
	I can only imagine, but let me add that I believe that what you are doing is part of a consciousness revolution or evolution.
	That is taking place.
	And I think that's why forces brought you and I together to even have this conversation today.
	No doubt.
	Because there's something shifting dramatically.
	There's a red-pilling in the spiritual realm.
	And it's not that you and I are saying that we despise these teachings and we love what Yeshua taught.
	And why do you specifically refer in your teachings to the Bible?
	And I'm sure there's a reason for that.
	It's just like a little rhetorical technique, I think, to get people to deconstruct their Greek Roman Jesus, you know, the paganized Jesus Christ, the figure we know of that most Christians today worship.
	Is a very heavily, heavily paganized version of the real person who actually lived.
	That's right.
	Who was a Semitic Hebrew from Palestine, an itinerant rabbi who spoke Aramaic and Hebrew.
	And most scholars agree Jesus probably knew enough Greek to get by on the marketplace.
	But it wouldn't have been, like, something he was speaking normally or any other Jew.
	Just like any other, you know, multilingual cultures, like, they kind of keep to themselves, and they'll learn just enough of each other's languages to, like, buy and sell and stuff.
	Very few people, like, go full bore and, like, become a Greek scribe or whatever.
	Right.
	So Jesus and all of his followers were Hebrew-speaking, Aramaic-speaking Jews.
	And then it's like, why do we have a Bible full of Greek documents that none of them could have written or spoken?
	Well, I'm sorry to interrupt, but I got pushed back when I wrote an article called Jesus Did Not Speak English.
	Oh, wow.
	You got pushed back, huh?
	I got pushed back because people said, no, I'm reading the words of Jesus in English.
	And I'm like, oh my God, where do I begin?
	Yeah.
	Because English didn't even exist.
	That's tough.
	And people told me, before I had read the Bible, people said, you have to read it because this is the one book that God wrote.
	Right.
	And then I find out This was written by men and scribes, and parts were altered and censored and translated.
	Parts were found, like Jeremiah's works.
	They were found, and others were lost, and Enoch.
	And I'm like, this is man's compilation with all of man's biases or visions or sometimes misremembering things.
	Yeah.
	This is one of the reasons why...
	Because they want to have their cake and eat it, too, in so many different ways.
	One of which you just pointed out, but, like, another one would be claiming these ontological, ascribing God with these ontological qualities.
	Omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, omnibenevolent, one, right?
	This is what the Bible teaches about God.
	And yet they also at the same time want to claim, but God's creation fell.
	God's will isn't accomplished.
	God has to commit a blood atonement before he can forgive.
	God has all these limitations in Christianity.
	And yet they say, oh no, God's omnipotent.
	So it's like, no, you don't get to say both things.
	Either you have an omnipotent God, which means God has all power, which means you cannot give God.
	Anything, right?
	A blood offering on an altar cannot provide God with anything at all, let alone an atonement that now allows God, for some metaphysical reason, to be able to forgive you.
	This is not what the Bible teaches.
	The Old Testament is clear, and Yeshua is even more clear.
	God forgives anybody who repents with a humble heart.
	Just sincerely repent to me, says God, and I will forgive you.
	And God even says, and I will wipe out your sins as if they never occurred.
	I will cast them as far as the east is from the west and remember them no more.
	That's what the Old Testament message is.
	And then you've got these sprinkled sacrifices of, no, you must sacrifice a goat or a lamb on this day to have your sins forgiven.
	And if you have a thinking brain, you have to look at these things and say, these are irreconcilable contradictions.
	That's true.
	Two opposite things can't be true at the same time.
	One is true or the other is true.
	I'm glad you used that term, irreconcilable, because I believe that any religious teaching has to be internally consistent.
	Has to be.
	Otherwise, what is it?
	Because truth is consistent, right?
	Right, right.
	But what I have found, and I'm sure you've received some similar feedback, is that when I begin to ask questions, Especially the evangelical Christians, they will weaponize the word faith and they will say, don't ask questions, have faith.
	And I'm like, I don't think you know what the word faith means when you say don't ask questions, have faith.
	You're asking me to believe contradictory things at the same time and to not ponder the words of Jesus or the prophets or anybody else.
	We need to ponder them.
	And so faith...
	Like, faith is, you know, this eternal, infinite, conscious love.
	But go ahead.
	Well, questioning your beliefs, to your point, that's real faith.
	Yeah.
	Why?
	Because if I have the faith to question a belief I've been told of, hey, this is what God's like, or this is what God does.
	I say, okay, cool.
	I accepted that 10 years ago, but I was...
	Let me now, as a 20-year-old man, reconsider if that's true.
	Does that stack up to my reality that I experience?
	This is basic epistemology, right?
	The way we arrive at true knowledge.
	We question it.
	and we have to question it from many perspectives.
	And if something's true, That's right.
	So we should never, under any circumstance, condemn question asking or be afraid of asking questions.
	Right.
	And this is another one of those areas where Christianity wants to have its cake and eat it too.
	Is if when it comes to Islam or Mormonism or Judaism or any other religion, they will...
	And they'll mock those people and say, oh, those stupid Muslims believe the Quran?
	It's full of contradictions!
	And then when you say, oh, can we ask some questions about your book?
	They say, you can't ask a question about our book.
	It's like, oh, so you want to be able to do that to everyone else's religion, but your religion is not applied to the same standard.
	It's not how you arrive at knowledge with true faith.
	If you have faith, you're not afraid to question because you know.
	Faith to me means a deep, heartfelt conviction in what's true.
	It doesn't mean a conceptual understanding of what's true.
	I cannot conceptually understand something, but I can feel that it's true and seek after that understanding.
	So because you have the faith to ask questions, that means you really believe in truth.
	You're not afraid to question it.
	But somebody who is afraid to question truth and gets angry at you when you question it, they're the one who actually doesn't have faith in the truth.
	They don't trust it.
	There's so many layers of truth in what you just said.
	And let me help underscore that by just presenting to the audience a teaser of the fact that we're going to actually demonstrate some of the laws of God here today, the laws of creation in real time.
	With the microscope and the freezing of the xylitol crystals.
	That's why I have this set up.
	I'm sorry if it's crowding you a little bit.
	It's so fun.
	Can you show the microscope screen to my producers?
	We're actually looking in real time here right now.
	There we go.
	We're actually looking at a real time image of some frozen xylitol crystals.
	Xylitol likes to make these very interesting patterns and all kinds of interesting colors as well.
	And if we zoom around, and feel free to do that.
	Here, go ahead.
	You can poke around.
	But also, let me say this while you're doing that, Aaron.
	Chemically, because I'm a food scientist.
	I'm trained in the sciences of food and basic chemistry and things like that.
	And I can tell you that every xylitol crystal has the exact same simple formula.
	It's a certain number of carbons and hydrogens and oxygens in a certain formation.
	The formula is really small.
	The molecule, you can diagram it.
	It's very tiny.
	But yet, when it freezes, it forms complex pictures.
	And I have video that I put out two days ago of it painting in color, sketching, and writing, scribbling.
	And we're probably going to see that today.
	No way.
	Yeah, we're going to see that in real time.
	As it's freezing.
	It's painting, it's bursting into existence, structures, and it's sketching, and there's even little scribblings that you're going to see.
	Now, this one's been frozen for a day, but as it's freezing in real time, you're going to see that.
	But the reason I mention that is because what you teach that really struck me is that God has already imprinted the laws of reciprocation into the cosmos.
	So if you are an evil person that puts out evil and bad things happen to you, that's not actually like God's executive judgment like he made his particular decision.
	That's God's law of the way the whole thing works.
	It's cause and effect.
	It's cause and effect.
	So God's laws are built in to the entire construct.
	Yes.
	And if you're good, good comes back to you.
	Law of attraction, right?
	If you're evil, evil comes to you.
	Right.
	And this was a really important.
	running around dishing out punishment and blessings.
	And it's, it's almost like this image of a, Like God's running around trying to solve God's universe.
	Punishment, reward, you know.
	And it's just such a cartoonish idea of the creator.
	And so Jesus, I think...
	So Jesus was literally like, hey, if the universe is here, God's law is here and it can't pass away.
	It's easier for the universe to pass away.
	So what Jesus is saying is the law of God is like, it's metaphysically prior to the universe that we see.
	And so the universe we see is actually being governed by this metaphysical law of God.
	And so Jesus taught these laws.
	And really it's, I call it the law of one, because it's really just one law, which you kind of alluded to, the law of reciprocity, which is everything is just one being, one creator.
	Then what I give must be given back to me.
	And so Jesus said in Luke 6, 37, Judge and you will be judged.
	Condemn and you'll be condemned.
	Forgive and you'll be forgiven.
	For the measure you give will be the measure you get back.
	And Jesus taught this law all over the place.
	Same thing in Matthew.
	He says, if you do not forgive your brother his trespasses, your Heavenly Father can't forgive yours.
	And it's like, that word can't is important there.
	He didn't say, God's going to be upset at you and fold his arms and furrow his brow and say, no, I won't forgive you.
	Like, there's no angry human-like God doing these things.
	He's describing metaphysical law.
	And so what you hold against somebody else must be held against you.
	And so this is where it bumps into Christian theology today, where they teach, hey, you're a sinner?
	No problem.
	We've got you covered.
	All you've got to do is you've got to confess Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior and believe in his death and resurrection, and poof, you're forgiven.
	And so my response to that is always, where did Jesus say that?
	Right.
	Because you don't find any verses where Jesus said that.
	Well, yeah, he didn't run around emphasizing that you must just believe in my name and cite my name, although everybody brings up, I think, Mark 14, 6, is it?
	No, John 14, 6. Yes.
	I am the way, I am the truth, etc.
	But even there, God was speaking through him.
	When he said that, it's very clear in that passage.
	He said, everything I say is God speaking through me here.
	He was a proxy for the Creator speaking.
	Yes.
	Which disproves Trinitarianism because Jesus says, look, I only do what I'm told to do.
	I only say what I'm told to say.
	What do you mean?
	Who's telling you to say something if you are literally God?
	Jesus is clearly presenting himself as a messenger from God.
	Right.
	The term in philosophy is hylomorphism, which is a distinction between the person and the nature, right?
	Jesus is the person.
	Christ is the nature or the consciousness.
	So all of these I am statements that Jesus makes, he's speaking from the I am position, the Christ position, which is universal to all beings.
	You got it.
	And the reason we know this is the case is because in the synoptic gospels, Jesus says, if anyone wishes to be my disciple, let him first deny himself, take up his cross daily, and then he can follow me.
	So that's a clear ancient Semitic way of saying, kill your ego, transcend your ego, and then you can follow me.
	So it's like, would Jesus have commanded his disciples to do something that he himself had not done?
	Probably not, right?
	So Christians not understanding philosophy and non-duality and these things.
	Read John and Jesus making I Am statements, and they think it's a person making the statement.
	Exactly.
	And it's like, no, no, no.
	He already said, you've got to kill your ego, which is the identity.
	I'm just a person.
	I'm this character.
	Jesus was not identified with his body like most people are.
	He knew himself to be the Christ.
	And he spoke from that position.
	And every ancient saint and yogi and sage we know of speaks very, very similarly to Jesus because it's just the state of realization that all There is nothing else.
	Everyone else, we're just dreams in the mind of God.
	I'm a temporary expression of God.
	That's right.
	That's exactly right.
	A temporary expression of God.
	God experiencing our reality through billions of points of view.
	Through Mike.
	And through animals.
	And through animals.
	See, I believe that every living thing, and even we're talking about crystals here, there is a fraction of a kind of intelligent consciousness.
	In all matter.
	Absolutely.
	Because all matter is an expression of our Creator.
	Now, and I want to ask you about near-death experiences because I'm so glad that you really took a deep dive into that.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And that's another thing that triggers a lot of Christians.
	Like, no, you can't talk about NDE.
	Well, okay, we're going to anyway.
	But I want to talk about animals for a second because, you know, Jesus, some of your analysis talks about how He was likely, almost certainly, From the Nazarenes, I believe.
	Yeah, undoubtedly.
	And they did not practice animal sacrifice.
	Instead, they used baptism as a replacement for sacrifice.
	So, like, you saw that I carry a gun.
	And I've trained for years in weapon proficiency for self-defense purposes.
	And I've never killed an animal.
	Except out of mercy when it was, like, one of my chickens was attacked by a falcon.
	So I put it out.
	As a mercy.
	But I've been surrounded by hunters, and I'm not trying to judge hunters.
	That's your own call.
	But I have always felt, even since a child, that every bird, every animal has its own point of view, its own consciousness, its own...
	I think I had great parents too, like you did.
	But to this day, if I go to a...
	Everybody's a hunter.
	It's like, I killed a giant hog last week.
	And I'm like, I set one free.
	I literally saved one a couple days ago on my ranch that had wandered in.
	But I feel like somehow conventional Christianity has missed out on the fact that other beings are conscious too.
	Of course.
	How can that be?
	It's so obvious though.
	Yeah, it should be obvious.
	But I mean, Christianity is kind of already predicated on this idea of specialness.
	First of all, there's the Jews being God's special people.
	They're selectively chosen in that whole idea, which is nonsense.
	And then there's we, the Christian people on this planet.
	We're the only ones who have a monopoly on truth.
	We alone are the correct religion, and everybody else is wrong in going to hell.
	So it's already about being special and set apart.
	And why would you not see animals as lower than you from that regard?
	It makes sense from their perspective.
	But when you have self-awareness and you actually look at creation without a religious framework, you can clearly see everything is sentient.
	Everything is alive.
	Everything is a manifestation of God appearing in some unique form.
	That's right.
	That's why nonviolence, love, compassion, service to others, forgiveness, these alone are the qualities of God and righteousness and killing, bloodshed, violence, ritual death.
	These things are of Satan, and they cannot have any place in God.
	Can I say amen to that?
	Come on!
	Break out the tambourines!
	Yeah, I mean, you're nailing it.
	You're nailing it.
	Well, you brought up the Nazarenes, and I'm sure you've heard of the Essenes as well, right?
	Yes, well, through you and the guests that you've had on.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And I really appreciate the fact that you allow a duration.
	Yeah, they've got to be long, man.
	It's a deep topic.
	It's not a TikTok thing.
	No.
	I've tried.
	I'm sorry to interrupt, but go ahead.
	Yeah.
	Well, so, for a long time, people associated the Essenes with the Dead Sea Scrolls.
	Oh, that's the community who wrote the Dead Sea Scrolls.
	And it's like, there's maybe a little truth to that, but it's way more complex than that.
	Because, firstly, the word Essene doesn't appear anywhere in the Dead Sea Scrolls.
	And so you're like, hmm, well, if this community wrote these documents, you'd think that they would have their name in there.
	But the only self-designation that actually does appear in the Dead Sea Scrolls, which you probably saw this from some of my podcasts, is the congregation of the Ebionim.
	Ebion, Ebionim.
	And Ebionim is Hebrew for the poor ones.
	And so right there, you have a very striking connection to Jesus in the Gospels, right?
	Blessed are the poor, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
	Jesus would admonish anyone who wanted to be his disciple.
	He would say, first sell all you possess, give to the poor, and then you can come follow me.
	And so scholars have long identified that that designation, the poor, was actually the name of Jesus' community.
	Because they practiced voluntary poverty.
	The book of Acts goes into great detail on this, right?
	The first church of Jesus.
	Well, Jerome, a church father from the 4th century, writes that the holy poor was the name of the Jerusalem believers of Jesus' day.
	Interesting.
	So you've got the congregation of the poor in the Dead Sea Scrolls, and when you read their liturgical document, which is the community rule, This is how they describe themselves.
	They say, Our community is structured with a teacher of righteousness that leads the community, surrounded by three appointed priests, James, Peter, and John, probably, right?
	James, Peter, and John are always mentioned together in the New Testament.
	Like, they're the three kind of specially chosen disciples.
	So the Dead Sea Scrolls say, One teacher of righteousness, three appointed priests, twelve council members, We will practice water baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
	We reject the temple, reject animal sacrifice, reject flesh consumption altogether.
	And we practice voluntary poverty.
	and it's literally word for word, point for point, identical to the church described in Acts.
	So scholars now, including Dr. James Tabor.
	Yeah, and that's...
	Yes.
	You interviewing him.
	Yeah, we interviewed him about this.
	They're pretty convinced that there was at least some very strong relationship.
	Maybe the Dead Sea Scroll group was like the ancestors of the Jesus group.
	They emerged out of them.
	Or they might be the exact same group.
	But there's no doubt this was the group that...
	So scholars now are saying that Essenism needs to be understood in a broader context.
	That there were many Essene sects of Judaism.
	The Osines, the Nazarenes, the Elkacites, the Ebionites.
	But they were all these Jewish Christian groups that split off from mainstream Judaism.
	And sequestered themselves east of the Jordan River, near the Dead Sea and all that.
	And they all had the exact same beliefs and practices.
	They were just kind of living in separate areas.
	But they would commune with each other and stuff.
	And so they were called in those days Essenes, which means healers.
	And that was like a catch-all term for these Jewish Christian groups that all reject the temple, reject sacrifices, and even reject the Torah.
	They said that the Bible, the Hebrew Bible, had been corrupted.
	By the lying pens of the scribes to insert animal sacrifices, which is a pagan practice, not a Jewish practice, right?
	They said, paganism infiltrated our Torah, so we reject it.
	And they had their own version of what they called the original law of Moses, which was just the Ten Commandments.
	And interestingly, in the New Testament, when Jesus is asked, good teacher, how do I attain eternal life?
	He doesn't say, confess me as Lord and Savior, believe in my death and resurrection.
	Jesus says, keep the commandments, and then he lists the Ten Commandments.
	And so that's another striking match to these Jewish-Christian Essene-type groups.
	So that's just a sprinkling of the evidence we could point out to show that Jesus undoubtedly emerged from this Essene type of Judaism that was very much an anti-establishment movement in the first century that said, this temple thing is wicked and evil.
	We want no part of it.
	This is not God's will.
	And I mean, what do we see Jesus do in the New Testament?
	He cleanses the temple and pronounces condemnation on all of it.
	Including the animal sacrifice.
	Especially the sacrifices.
	He opens the cages of the animals.
	Yes.
	And lets the animals down.
	And then he says, my house, it is written, my house should have been called a house of prayer for all nations.
	That's Isaiah 11. But you have turned it into a den of thieves.
	That's Jeremiah.
	And the Hebrew word for thieves is actually, it's the word paritz in Hebrew, which means murderers or shredders or violent ones.
	And it can also mean like a violent robber.
	So it should have been translated, you've turned my father's house into a den of murderers.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	So what you're speaking to here, I'd like to use the word decentralization also.
	Because in this contrast, what...
	So what Paul ended up teaching, at least as I understand it, but you're the expert, so correct me if I'm wrong, was more of a centralized control.
	The law and order bow down to what eventually became the Vatican.
	Bow down to the Roman Catholic teachings and that you cannot know God yourself.
	You have to go through this institution that will control your interpretation of what God is.
	what God means or how to find that.
	Whereas what the gospel of Thomas taught and what Yeshua taught was God is within us.
	It is decentralized.
	You can know God yourself and you can allow God to express his creative energy through you, regardless of where you live in the world, regardless of what church you attend or do not attend.
	Yeah.
	Correct?
	Absolutely, yeah.
	The only caveat I would add is that Paul definitely got stretched to this extreme conclusion by the Catholic Church.
	I think Paul is not guilty of all of the offenses done in his name necessarily just because the Catholic Church took his teachings to their furthest crazy conclusion because they needed to be able to radicalize people, right?
	Even after Paul's life ended?
	Yes.
	I mean, scholars are in unanimous agreement that only seven of the 13 Pauline epistles were actually written by Paul.
	Six of them are absolutely undoubtedly forgeries from the 2nd century, some late 2nd century.
	Like some of the things attributed to Peter were also forgeries?
	1 and 2 Peter are absolutely forgeries, no question about that.
	So is 1 and 2 Timothy, Titus, Colossians, Ephesians.
	These are known forgeries.
	Paul did not write these.
	And one of the ways they know, by the way, is that Paul was, That has become clear.
	Yeah, when you read Paul, you know, Galatians, Ephesians.
	Like, I am the least of the apostles, or whatever he said.
	Yep, yep.
	It's really mostly just his usage of first personal pronouns.
	Ah, okay.
	This is how, one of the ways scholars identify which of those letters Paul wrote, because in those seven, Paul uses first personal pronouns, I, I, like 1,300% more than any of the other six.
	Paul uses more personal pronouns in the first chapter of Romans alone than the entire book of Hebrews combined.
	And didn't he at one point say, this is my doctrine?
	My gospel.
	Four times.
	Four times Paul called it my gospel.
	So not Jesus' gospel.
	No.
	And he even said, I didn't learn this gospel from Jesus' disciples.
	He said, Jesus taught it to me in private.
	So basically all of salvation is now predicated on this one guy's private visions with Jesus.
	Not just the first one on the road to Damascus, but then the follow-up.
	Right.
	He claimed to have follow-up teachings directly from Jesus.
	I mean, even the conversion story on the road to Damascus, Paul didn't write that.
	That was And most scholars agree that the Paul we see in Acts is wildly different than the Paul of his own writings.
	Really?
	So it's somebody in the second century trying to paint a certain picture of Paul.
	Scholars call it hero Paul.
	They try to make Paul look really good.
	Because in his day, everybody knew that he had this massive schism with the twelve disciples.
	Such that every single Jewish Christian group, the Nazarenes, Jesus was a Nazarene, all of them.
	Rejected Paul as an apostate from the law and specifically said that Paul corrupted the teachings of Yeshua.
	And so that's why the Catholic Church had to name every Jewish Christian sect heretics, you know, 100 years later, because they don't agree with Paul.
	It's like, yeah, because they were the actual disciples of Yeshua.
	These are the blood descendants of the disciples of Jesus saying this.
	And they all got marginalized by the Catholic Church.
	So how did Paul's writings influence the four Gospels' writings?
	It's not clear to me how that happened.
	Yeah, it's a big question.
	But I would say, to summarize what scholars say, is that especially the book of Mark and Matthew seem to carry the most Pauline theology, and we know that they were written after Paul's letters were.
	So, again, the four Gospels are in Greek, not Hebrew or Aramaic.
	So some Greek-speaking Gentile from Asia Minor wrote these Gospels, or a community more likely.
	A community of people are writing these Gospels, and they're borrowing from some old Jewish Christian texts, the Hebrew Gospel of Matthew and stuff, but they're trying to paint their own picture of the Jesus story that would appeal to Gentiles.
	Because look, the Greeks speaking, the Greco-Romans of those days, they already had a litany of gods that come down from heaven, right?
	and do miracles and ascend back to heaven.
	So if, if the Jews are going around preaching of a crucified Jewish Messiah, The Jews did not believe that Jesus was God.
	They believed he was the Messiah.
	The Messiah that was foretold, right?
	The Hamashiach.
	And so to say that a man is literally God would be like shirt-tearing blasphemy to a Jew.
	No man can be God.
	God is transcendent.
	You don't ever say that a man is God.
	But that's what the pagans did, the Greek-speaking tradition, because that's normal for them, right?
	Apollos, Heracles, Perseus.
	We could go on and on listing these demigods that they believe come down from heaven.
	Do miracles and ascend back to heaven in these stories.
	So you can't appeal to Greek-speaking Gentiles in the first century with this crucified human Messiah.
	That's not interesting, right?
	They're like, well, we'll keep our powerful gods that come down from heaven.
	So they had to upgrade Jesus over time to match point for point all of the Greek ideologies of those days to make Jesus be appealing to the Greeks.
	And that's what Paul really did, is he upgraded Jesus to this kind of preexistent.
	Deity that the Greeks would have been attracted to.
	And then other scribes upgraded Paul.
	Exactly.
	Right.
	That's what happens.
	Everybody's getting upgrades.
	Everything gets stretched over time.
	Bonus points all the way through.
	So to kind of, now, I want to encourage people to watch your channel on YouTube and other I mean, mostly YouTube.
	Okay.
	You'll find me there.
	So Aaron Abke, A-B-K-E.
	Fortunately, you have a very unique name.
	Yeah.
	So it's easy to find.
	So you can go on YouTube or you can go to his website, AaronAbke.com.
	But to just kind of put an end cap on what you said there, and to add my experience, since I began asking questions, what I found, and I came up with a saying, which is a little bit judgmental.
	It's okay.
	I said, the hardest thing in the world is to teach a Christian what's written in the Bible.
	Yeah.
	Because what I found out, see, I was silly.
	I thought that when I was reading the Bible and getting into this, That I could go to any Christian and they would be experts in all this, the whole history and everything.
	And then I found out that not really.
	Like what you're talking about, very few practicing everyday Christians ever get into the origins.
	Very few.
	And it seems to me like that's essential.
	Absolutely.
	Where did this come from?
	If you really care about Jesus.
	Like, not your own religiously idealized version, but, like, the actual person that you say was the Son of God that died for your sins, don't you want to learn about that person, where he came from, and what he was actually like?
	Well, you've got to go to Jewish Christianity.
	And even that term, by the way, is almost, like, anachronistic, because people today hear me say that, and they think I mean Jews for Jesus?
	Oh, no, that's not at all.
	No, no, no.
	We're talking about first century Jews who followed the Ten Commandments and were Jewish.
	But believe Jesus was the Messiah.
	And the Jews were all expecting a Messiah.
	So it wasn't like, it's not outlandish that a big segment of these Jewish people believed Jesus was the guy.
	And that's all that the first Christians were.
	And multiple church fathers, our earliest attestations, Mike, all say the very first Christians were Nazarenes.
	They were called Nazarenes, not Christians or Gentile Christians.
	that came much, much later.
	And on top of that, It was the Hebrew gospel of Matthew, written by the disciple Matthew.
	And Papias says, our first attestation, that he wrote the gospel of the Lord, the oracles of the Lord, in the Hebrew dialect for the sake of the Jewish Christians that believed in him.
	And then every church father after him says the same thing.
	So the first gospel was written in Hebrew, a language Jesus actually spoke.
	That makes sense.
	And it has none of the Pauline theology in it that we know of today.
	And it's something that most Christians have never even heard of before.
	You know?
	It's extraordinary.
	Don't even know it existed.
	Well, that's why your work, I think, is so important.
	So anybody watching, if you've been triggered by anything that we've said here, that's okay.
	What you should do, maybe take that trigger and use it to motivate yourself to read more, learn more, listen more.
	And the more you know, either one, the more easily you can reject.
	everything that Aaron is saying.
	Or secondly, you might find that actually some of this makes sense.
	So, you know, if either way, if they dive in more and learn more, Before we go to the microscope.
	Can I ask you about near-death experiences?
	Absolutely.
	This is profound.
	You and I, we talk about the laws of God being infused, imprinted in the cosmos, and near-death experiences allow people to peek behind the veil.
	Yeah.
	And what do they see there, Aaron?
	Yeah.
	What do they see?
	Well, you know, I got into near-death experiences when I went through my own questioning.
	If the Christian God isn't the real God, then is there a God?
	And maybe the atheists are right.
	You know, I went through that period of questioning, which I think you have to let yourself go there if you want to have an honest belief system without cognitive dissonance.
	Like, I'm going to let myself question those things and really ask those questions because if there is a God, I'll find that truth.
	You know, truth can't be hidden.
	And so I started looking up near-death experiences because I thought, hey, if anybody knows the answer to these kind of questions, is there a God?
	Is there an afterlife?
	It's probably people that have actually died and then been resuscitated and come back to talk about it.
	Who else will be a better witness than that?
	And my big fear that drove me actually was not even so much, is there a God?
	But it was more existential than that.
	It was like, if there's no God, that means everyone I love, I never see them again ever once they die.
	And that's the most...
	Like my dad, who I love, my mom, my sister, I'll never see them again.
	I couldn't handle that thought.
	So I had to find solace.
	And I went to NDEs and to my, not so much surprise, but great gratitude, I was watching video after video, reading testimony after testimony of all these people having basically the same experience.
	Now they're all very unique, but there's these archetypes in the experience of like leaving your body.
	Going towards the light.
	Having a life review.
	Realizing that everything in life is all about love.
	These kinds of things.
	Having a choice to go back or not.
	Studying Dr. Raymond Moody's work.
	The site I really loved was nderf.org which stands for Near Death Experience Research Foundation.org.
	I'll bring it up.
	A group of two scientists from the 1990s were like, hey, we should start studying this phenomenon called NDEs that a lot of people are having.
	Maybe there's some compelling data we can find here.
	This is the site?
	That's the site.
	Okay.
	So I was on this site for about six months, nonstop, just reading NDEs after NDE because I needed confirmation of what I hoped was true, that there is a God of love and life is about love.
	And NDEs just proved that beyond any shadow of a doubt.
	But I think what you're getting at and what I quickly started to realize is, oh, not only do NDEs prove, yes, there is a God and yes, that God is love and life's all about love.
	But they absolutely, unequivocally debunk Pauline theology, that we're saved by faith alone, apart from works and all these ideas.
	Confess Jesus, believe in his death.
	People who are Christian, and I just did an episode on this.
	This is so fascinating, because Christian pastors had this experience, and they experienced the judgment.
	Go ahead, you tell.
	I'm sorry.
	I even knew a Christian growing up in church, one of our church members, who had an NDE, and he came back.
	Give a huge, long testimony about it.
	And I remember him, when I look back now, saying all the same things.
	And he realized I had harbored so much unforgiveness towards people that God basically had to show me what that looked like inside of me and stuff.
	So these Christians are having these NDEs where they die, leave their body, and they expect to go to heaven, and they end up in some kind of hellish realm.
	And they're absolutely bewildered, right?
	I shouldn't be here.
	I confessed.
	I believed.
	I did everything they said.
	And then the demons are laughing at them and they just show them a few segments of their life and all the selfish, horrible things they did to people.
	They're like, oh yeah, I get it.
	And then they repent.
	And then they repent once they realize, hey, there's no arguing with this.
	I did not live a life worthy of Christ.
	And then they usually they'll cry out to God or Jesus.
	And in every case of every story I've read where somebody goes to a hellish realm, as soon as they truly cry out to God, immediately the light And always, without one exception I've ever found, thousands of NDEs that I've read and watched.
	I've never heard one single person ever say, oh yeah, I went there because I didn't confess and believe in Jesus.
	But even Jesus comes to most people and says, do you think that you loved your neighbor as yourself after watching your life review?
	And they're like, no Lord, I didn't.
	And Jesus is like, would you like another chance to go back?
	And do it again?
	Do it right this time?
	And you're like, yes, Lord, thank you.
	Tears in their eyes, and Jesus sends them back into their body.
	And it's like they all want to go back because being in that presence of love and seeing how their life measured up to it, and they were cruel and prideful and selfish and mean to people, they go, I can't stay in this realm knowing I lived like that.
	I've got to bring this heaven to that earth, as Jesus said.
	and they go back.
	And faith without works is dead.
	Exactly right, as James said.
	Right, right.
	And that's, I've found, there's such a chasm in modern day Christianity, at least the way it's practiced, about that very point.
	Yes.
	That has cost me some friends as well to even dare to discuss this.
	Yeah.
	We'll leave it at that for now.
	Yeah, we'll leave it at that for now.
	I want to make sure we have time to get to the microscope.
	You still doing okay on time?
	Yeah, doing great.
	Okay, so this is really cool.
	We're going to get to actually see God's creation in existence.
	Just a little tiny fraction of it in real time.
	And I don't know if you're familiar with the work of Rupert Sheldrake.
	He's an author.
	Oh, yeah.
	Morphic Resonance.
	Oh, okay.
	You are.
	So this is classic Morphic Resonance.
	So one thing I want you to know and our audience to know before we begin.
	Now, I have a plate of melted xylitol right over there.
	Let me turn up the heat a little bit.
	Give a little extra boost of melting before we begin.
	Nice.
	Here's something that almost nobody knows that I discovered when I was I'm producing a book called The Contagious Mind.
	And that was four years ago I did that audiobook, which is very much aligned with all this.
	But xylitol crystals never used to melt, I mean, I'm sorry, never used to freeze at room temperature until the year 1941.
	Before 1941, all over the world, xylitol was always liquid at room temperature.
	Always.
	Wow.
	And this also happened to another drug that was being produced by a drug company.
	Same thing.
	But beginning in 1941, all xylitol everywhere around the world began to freeze or form a solid at room temperature.
	Interesting.
	That's because they are sharing structural knowledge through what I call God's cloud computing, which is the morphic resonance.
	Oh, wow.
	So there was knowledge even in crystals or the formation of crystals.
	This knowledge was instantly shared across all of the xylitol molecules all over the world.
	And there's another drug.
	I forgot the name of it, but I could look it up.
	And this is built into our AI engine that we're about to release.
	So anybody can ask our engine these questions.
	It'll spit out all the answers.
	There's another drug that was made by a drug company that began forming crystals.
	They had to shut down the whole drug production line.
	They had to reformulate a different chemical form in order to But classic science tells us that's not possible.
	Classic science says the laws of chemistry have always been the same.
	That they never change.
	Well, but I say the laws have not changed.
	It's the knowledge base that got upgraded.
	Yeah, the consciousness.
	Right.
	So we're about to actually witness that in real time.
	Okay.
	Yeah, so I'm going to take a slide and...
	I'll put it under the microscope.
	Now, you are welcome to use the power of intention, if you wish, silently.
	However, I will tell you that that experiment usually extends to ours because there's so much territory to look on the slide.
	So we might not want to do that today.
	Just watch the formation of crystals without any specific information.
	Yeah.
	Other than just beauty.
	Okay.
	Is that cool?
	Yeah, let's do it.
	Okay.
	All right, here we go.
	And you get to control the...
	Okay, great.
	I think we're at the right depth now.
	So these are not the crystals yet.
	It's definitely growing.
	Okay, so let's do this.
	Let me ask you another question.
	And then while we're talking, you know, we can check this.
	Okay.
	Yeah, this is going to get really interesting.
	Okay, cool.
	So the way that crystals form, now of course the work of Dr. Emoto and They weren't able to capture it in the process, which is what we're about to see.
	They're capturing the end result.
	But the process, you're going to start to see the painting, the sketching, the flashes, and entire structures flash into existence.
	Really?
	Yeah, you're going to see it.
	The way it works is it starts out with very simple structures.
	So if I were to have an intention right now to say, show me a dog, it can't because right now it's just like hexagons and squares and circles, which is what we've been seeing.
	As it grows, it gains complexity.
	And then in that complexity, far more complex shapes can sketch out.
	Like the other day, I mean, there was a snowscape.
	I was talking to it about Christmas.
	There was a snowscape, a blizzard on the hills with colored Christmas lights in the sky.
	Unfortunately, it got downscaled.
	Like, this is 4K, but it got downscaled to 1080 in our board and then uploaded to the video sites.
	It got downscaled to 720.
	Oh, wow.
	All those details were just gone.
	Yeah.
	But we saw it here, as you're about to see.
	It's definitely changing shape now.
	Yeah.
	So let me ask you about health.
	And one of the things that's always baffled me as a nutrition person and clean foods person is that when I would visit a church, I would notice two things.
	Number one, the people were wearing really huge amounts of toxic fragrance perfumes, which dulls the nervous system.
	And then secondly, when they had food events or snacks after the service, There were donuts and there were cake muffins and there were things that promote obesity and so on.
	And that did not align in my mind.
	That if we believe that we are children of God, shouldn't we treat our bodies a little bit better?
	I'm not trying to judge everybody, but health matters.
	What are your thoughts about that?
	Yeah, it's not a judgmental thing at all.
	It's just looking at And as Jesus said, you always know a tree by its fruit.
	A truly good tree can't bear bad fruit.
	And a truly bad tree can't bear good fruit.
	And so when you look at all the bad fruits of Protestantism, there are many, but health is maybe one of the worst ones.
	And I just feel like that was something I was never taught or it wasn't ever emphasized that like...
	We thought nothing of, because again, we didn't have the framework that God is law.
	There was one truth, one reality, and so that one truth is the law that governs everything.
	So the more steps away from natural law we move, the unhealthier we get.
	I mean, and it's so...
	and all these kind of cool things that water carries.
	When you drink it from a river stream, it's structured, it's mineralized, it's hydrogenated, it's alive.
	And so you're putting that alive water in your body.
	So it's like if even just putting water through a pipe system that has these 90 degree angles, right?
	There are no 90 degree angles in nature that water goes through.
	It flows seamlessly.
	So how much worse is it to eat foods that are totally made in a lab, processed, stripped, bleached, whatever?
	Like this is not what our creator intended us to eat.
	And so it's really easy to get up on Sundays and sing praise and worship songs to God and say, I love God with all my heart.
	And yet you're totally violating all of the laws God intended you to live by and not honoring your body, which is your temple that God gave you.
	So there's a lot of things like that that are like discongruencies for me that even as a young teenage kid, I saw these things and was like, wow, we're like not really walking the walk in a lot of these areas.
	But most people literally don't even think about their health until they get a diagnosis.
	Yeah, that's really astonishing to me because as long as we're in this physical vessel here, we should...
	That's all you got, man.
	What else are we going to ride around in?
	We can't swap bodies.
	This is the one we have.
	I have a corollary to this, which is that when your nervous system is clean, the coherence of your power of intention works much better.
	Absolutely.
	I've covered this in some of my own podcasts.
	Christians say, how come my prayers aren't answered?
	But they're on antidepressant drugs.
	Maybe they have an alcohol problem.
	They eat a lot of junk foods.
	MSG is an excitotoxin that's in a lot of foods.
	Yeast extract, another form of that.
	Or, you know, whatever things.
	Glyphosate, DDT, heavy metals.
	Heavy metals.
	EMF.
	Exactly.
	So my answer to people sometimes, if they ask me that, well, you know, how come I'm like, can the universe hear you through the noise of your nervous system?
	Because your nervous system, maybe you can clean it up.
	Look at what Yeshua and other spiritual leaders around the world did.
	They fasted.
	They went out and they ate wild foods.
	They weren't eating Pop-Tarts.
	They didn't even eat meat.
	Fruit, bread, and yeah, water.
	So there's a direct relationship, I think, between the health, and I know you said you visit the gym, and you're very much acute about your health situation, correct?
	Oh yeah, health is a huge part of my life.
	And actually, this is such a cool topic for me right now, because I've just been kind of, yet again, red-pilled on health.
	You know, where you think you knew something of how the body worked or whatever, what you've been told, and you find out it's like very much not true, and maybe the opposite's actually true?
	Yeah.
	Well, that's happened to me lately with sugar, actually.
	Oh, really?
	Yes.
	I've always believed what I've heard, that sugar's the devil, it's what caused all the problems, and there's a little truth to that in the sense that it's sugar in the presence of high fat and high calories causes problems.
	Yeah.
	But it's like, who's just eating sugar, like just fruit, by itself?
	And having problems.
	Like, I don't really know anybody, right?
	It's always these high-fat, high-sugar diets that give all the problems.
	And so I've recently actually switched up my diet a bit and dropped my fats really low, like 30 grams a day, protein really low, 30 to 50 grams a day, and carbs high.
	Lots of fruit, lots of fruit juice.
	And I'm telling you, everything about my health has taken an exponential upgrade.
	I'm sleeping better and I have sleep data on this ring to prove it.
	I would never score over like an 85 on my best day of sleeping before this.
	And since I've been eating a lot of fruit until like maybe 3 or 4 p.m. that I have dinner, I've been in the 90s every day.
	My energy is through the roof.
	I take no naps anymore.
	My mood, you know, like, I'm in this amazing mood, high frequency.
	Everything about my quality of life has improved from eating a lot of fruit and fruit juice and keeping fats and proteins low.
	And we're always told really the opposite in our culture.
	It's like eat a crap load of protein, 200 grams a day, a lot of people are eating.
	It's like you're just overloading your body with so much stress to digest.
	Well, there are fruitarians, of course, that focus on this.
	But I'm a big advocate of the phytonutrients that are found in fruits.
	So anthocyanins, for example, in the purple berries, they block spike proteins.
	They're antioxidants.
	They're amazing.
	And you can't get those from artificial sources.
	I've had the light turned off to help it cool this whole time.
	Oh, okay.
	You ready for me to turn the light back on?
	Let's make a peek, yeah.
	All right.
	Now you're going to see what I'm talking about.
	Like this guy over here?
	Oh, yeah.
	There it is.
	Boom.
	Perfect.
	So now we can go into 400.
	Look at that.
	That's amazing.
	And, yeah, we're getting there now.
	Whoa.
	Can't believe how much you can zoom in on this thing.
	Yep.
	So now...
	Now, if we zoom out, we already see that it's larger and more complex than it was before.
	And do you see how the right side, it's pushing out?
	Yeah, I can see that.
	It's forming.
	Wow, it's so gradual.
	You would not notice it if you weren't looking right at it.
	But it's pretty evident.
	So if we go to that edge and zoom in, then watch this.
	There we go.
	Look at that.
	See what it's doing?
	So it's taking in material around it.
	Yeah, I was going to say.
	And it's reconstructing it into 3D structures.
	We've got perfect line down the center.
	You know?
	And then as it continues to grow, it can become more and more complex.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	This looks like a really nice curve.
	You know, like the edge of a leaf or something.
	Or the edge of a blade.
	Ah, look at this.
	That one's going fast.
	Look at that.
	It's cruising up.
	It's a perfect arrow.
	It's a perfect arrow.
	Okay.
	So this is forming and cooling.
	And we can see it with the naked eye.
	Looks like it got shattered.
	We'll go to an edge.
	And I'm starting to see some colors in the center.
	Are you seeing that?
	So let's go to the color.
	See the color?
	See that?
	Wow.
	Got everything in there.
	We're going to go in there now.
	All the seven densities right there.
	Look at that.
	Wow, it's just a rainbow of...
	A phantasmagoria or something.
	So, again, how can the same simple molecule form all these colors if it's just following some simple, simple laws of chemistry?
	There's clearly more going on.
	There's clearly more going on.
	I think I can do one more level of zooming in here.
	All right.
	And then there was another...
	There was another one over here to this side.
	Look at this.
	Wow.
	You see that structure?
	Oh, I have a feeling this is where we're going to start to see some scribbling and paint.
	Oh, look.
	You see the line coming in down there?
	Yeah.
	Did you see it?
	it started to push across Did you see this just jump in there?
	Which line?
	You've got better eyes for this than I do.
	No worries, man.
	No worries.
	I'm moving it too much.
	I should, what I should do is just stop moving it and let it sit.
	And then you'll see things pop in.
	Micron lights.
	Oh, there we go.
	You see that?
	Yeah, wow.
	Do you see it's kind of like scribbling down there?
	Yep.
	It's sketching down there?
	Yep.
	Look, it's drawing.
	Think about what Austin is doing when she's saying, here's the intention, do this structure.
	It very much seems like an intelligence.
	And then, if you don't mind me zooming way out to show how much bigger the whole thing has become now, it'll be a little bit shocking.
	I forgot we had zoomed into just one crystal.
	Yeah, we're looking at a tiny...
	And there are probably more interesting things happening.
	Like, you see this color thing right here?
	Let's go in there.
	Oh.
	I noticed oh, I'm sorry.
	Do you see the lines?
	Did you see that flash in?
	See these lights just popping in right now?
	Those are just ice crystals?
	Well, I mean, it's all xylitol, but sometimes...
	It's really building right now.
	Sometimes those lines will scribble.
	It's like it's writing out.
	Oh, wow.
	Amazing.
	You see how it's writing?
	Like it's scribbling something?
	A little bit, yeah.
	Have you heard of the whole DMT code thing in the laser people are talking about?
	I've heard of that, yeah.
	Do you understand the premise of it?
	I do, but I've never experimented with any kind of psychedelics.
	Oh, wow, okay.
	Well, they say you have to smoke DMT to see it, but if there's a certain type of refracted laser, I don't know what it's called, but a certain type of refracted laser, when people look into it on DMT, they see a literal code.
	I don't know if the code moves or it doesn't move, but they see there's actual hieroglyphic shapes, and everyone sees the same ones.
	And if they move the laser around, it reveals different parts of the code.
	Basically, they're coming to the conclusion that everything is just code.
	That this laser is revealing.
	So it's not unlike this where it's just kind of filling in information that's already there.
	Well, I've said, you know, you're familiar with simulation theory.
	And I've said, yeah, we're living in a simulation created by God.
	Yep.
	I mean, but this is what I want to show you is the spontaneity.
	There.
	You see the writing down there?
	I did, yeah.
	The scribbling?
	You mean like you can see it like moving in real time, right?
	It's like, it's going brr, brr, brr, brr with the little lines.
	It's like a rainbow bridge It's like a rainbow bridge Yeah, wow.
	There it goes.
	Okay?
	This is what I wanted you to see, is this spontaneous 3D space.
	And the sad thing is that it's getting downscaled on the video recorder, so they're not going to see as much detail as we're seeing.
	Oh, okay.
	Even on the public video.
	So it's a palette of unlimited colors and lines and shapes, and the crystals are just tapping into...
	Wow.
	Right up there.
	See that thing appear out of nowhere?
	Yeah.
	Unbelievable.
	It's like it's writing code.
	Yes.
	In color and shape and geometry, that is just amazing to look at.
	And that's happening in a $5 pie plate with a dollar's worth of xylitol.
	You know what I mean?
	It's all just fractal, man.
	Such cool colors.
	It's interesting why some parts are lit up so bright like that.
	Well, there is light above that's illuminating the sample.
	The crystal reflecting the light?
	It might be, but doesn't this look like a feather?
	Yeah.
	Like this structure.
	Looks like an animal feather, a bird feather.
	A little bit.
	And then, boom, this lightning just pops in, man.
	man everywhere.
	man everywhere.
	Wow.
	The whole galaxy appeared right there.
	It did.
	And then we zoom out.
	Oh my gosh.
	Look at that.
	So, like, do you see the complexity of this structure right there in the center of the screen?
	That one?
	That's what we've been looking at.
	And then did you see this blob just popped in right here in the center?
	This whole thing.
	Wow.
	Whatever it is, that thing, it just...
	So, what I'm noticing about this, and again, thank you for your time, what I'm noticing is that many of these structures are not gradual.
	They just burst into existence.
	I mean, we're actually seeing that.
	So, again, what can explain that other than some kind of tapping into the morphic fields?
	Yeah.
	I don't know of any other way you could explain it.
	Yeah.
	And I feel like, I mean, when something, Is when it makes sense on multiple levels of life.
	It explains multiple things at the same time.
	To me, that's the final kind of confirmation that you've discovered something true is that it won't just confirm one thing.
	It'll confirm many things, right?
	It'll make sense out of many things.
	Yes.
	And the Morphic Resonance is one of those things We can't objectively, definitively prove it yet.
	But the theory itself explains basically every question you would need to know.
	Well, it certainly does.
	And I also want to say, look, you are invited if you want to come here and use this and film this.
	We can actually hit record on the screen.
	You're welcome to come here and use this in one of your podcasts if you'd like to.
	Do some fun experiments, maybe.
	What is this?
	Good question.
	What?
	It built a claw.
	What the heck?
	Is that the ice?
	The xylitol?
	That's the xylitol.
	No way.
	There's nothing else in there.
	Dust particle?
	But it's attached to the ice.
	Yeah, it is.
	Why is it black, though?
	Yeah.
	Look at that.
	It's all our negative karma.
	Yes, negative karma showing up.
	There it is.
	That's my lack of forgiveness right there.
	The judgment.
	But, see, now you see they start to build things that look like animals or parts of animals.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But I'm serious about my invitation.
	You're welcome to come here.
	If this can be of use in one of your upcoming lessons, you're welcome to come here and use this.
	Thank you.
	That's a great offer.
	I'll have to think about all the different ways I would even want to use something like this.
	Oh, look at this structure.
	Hold on.
	Right, right.
	I mean, look at these series of dots.
	Yeah.
	And how that, it's like, It is.
	James, yeah.
	James.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	We've reached out to James, too.
	He told me that.
	Because I was so inspired by just the pure honesty of his message and what he went through with his business partner.
	Yeah, it was a tough catalyst, for sure.
	But look at that.
	Anyway, I mean, you know, we could do this for hours.
	No doubt.
	But I just want to demonstrate that for you.
	Yeah.
	So, it's not that often that we can actually literally see the theories that we're talking about, morphic resonance or God's creation.
	I mean, look at this.
	It's not that often that we can see them in real time.
	Like, what is this?
	It's drawing a maze.
	Yeah.
	It's completely different from all the other crystal angles.
	Look at that.
	Wow.
	It's like a 3D horizon landscape thing.
	It's like you just said.
	It's totally different from the one next to it.
	Yeah.
	It looks like it's in the middle of constructing something.
	Let me get all this in focus.
	Wow.
	That's amazing.
	There we go.
	Look at that.
	It looks almost like those old waterways they would build through the city.
	Yeah.
	And that's why when scientists tell me, oh, it's all just going to follow these basic laws of chemistry.
	It's all going to be uniform.
	And then I look under the microscope and it's not uniform.
	What laws make sense out of that?
	Totally.
	There are laws, of course, that are making it.
	Do that, but we don't know what they are.
	They're not the laws taught in Chemistry 101 in college.
	Well, I mean, that's the greatest paradox in science, right?
	Is that Newtonian physics is completely different than quantum physics, and the two models shouldn't be able to coexist, and yet they do.
	So how do you explain that?
	So we are just asking questions of the universe, and...
	Yeah, and it's still painting.
	I mean, it's just bringing in.
	But look at the moiré patterns over here.
	Do you see that?
	Right.
	Right in the center.
	Beautiful.
	I've got to take a picture of that.
	It's very psychedelic.
	Can you hit the enter key, please, on the keyboard?
	This one?
	Yeah.
	There we go.
	We'll save.
	And it's building steps, layers.
	It is.
	Like steps to a monument.
	I just saw something running around.
	Yeah, it's filling it in.
	And it'll probably do another step right there.
	Look at that.
	If we wait.
	Look at that.
	It's writing.
	You see what I mean?
	In real time.
	Yes.
	Wow.
	It just swung back around.
	That's what I'm talking about.
	It's writing, man.
	Dude, this is amazing.
	It's scribbling.
	And then it just changed the color completely.
	This is really fun.
	Okay, it's building the next one.
	Yeah, it is.
	This is what I wanted you to see.
	Because when I saw this, I'm like, wait a second.
	Something about the nature of reality is different from what we've been taught.
	No doubt.
	And there's a million things like this that also show that.
	Really, I think it's just a spiritual perception issue when people look at the universe, natural law and stuff, and aren't amazed.
	Totally.
	Everything in our universe is mysterious and magical.
	This is God's creation just in one rendition.
	Yeah.
	In a very simple way.
	That just came in.
	Watch it.
	It's painting it.
	It's filling it in in real time.
	Look at that.
	The whole triangle just appeared out of nowhere.
	It just appeared.
	When you were facing me, it just went shazam, and the whole thing.
	Maybe it was responding to what I said.
	Maybe it was.
	It's like a giant golden checkmark.
	Yeah, it totally is.
	See, this is like what Austin says.
	You're having a conversation.
	So everything that you and I are thinking about is actually affecting this.
	Yeah.
	Everything's connected.
	It's all connected.
	So, anyway.
	But it's not just picking up the one thought I just had.
	It's probably picking up every thought in my subconscious at the same time.
	Like, you've got to have some really powerful, focused intention to pierce through the maelstrom of what your consciousness is emitting.
	Totally.
	But it is a real law that we can tap into.
	There's no doubt.
	Look, it just formed this thing right here, too.
	And now it just put in a blue sky, but this...
	Oh, did you see all that come in up top?
	I did, yeah.
	All that just popped in as you were talking.
	How does it just pop in, though?
	That's what I'm saying, man.
	It just popped in, and there it is writing.
	Running around everywhere.
	There it is.
	It's scribbling.
	It's talking to us, man.
	You know, I bet if we could have the technology to zoom in.
	Like super hyper close on that, we'd see a bunch more crazy stuff that would blow our minds.
	We are approaching the limits of optical microscopy here.
	If you go far enough, it's just code, right?
	I bet it is.
	I mean, you can do a scanning electron microscope, but then you're not going to get this because in an electron microscope, it has to be a vacuum.
	Oh, yeah.
	So then everything would have already frozen.
	Yeah.
	So you won't get the construction happening.
	That's true.
	It just keeps flashing in, man.
	It does.
	I hope you don't mind me just, like, emoting such excitement.
	Wow, look at this thing!
	It just did that.
	White, red, green, yellow, blue, orange, green.
	It's a beautiful color sequence.
	Yes, yes.
	I'm really amazed at the way it combines colors in such a unique, beautiful way.
	There!
	Look at that.
	There!
	Just the big bang right there.
	Did you expect that you were going to see this?
	Not at all.
	Because, like, at first, we couldn't get it to do this.
	I've never seen anything like this before.
	It was reluctant.
	Yeah.
	Now it's just rocking.
	Well, I was really eager to see this because the way you were talking about it, wow.
	As we looked at that first ice crystal that wasn't really moving, I'm like, he's clearly seen some amazing stuff.
	Oh, yeah.
	I'm not leaving until I see it.
	Yeah, well, here it is.
	It's worth the wait.
	Here it is.
	So what I will do is, look at that.
	Let me take another picture.
	If you'll hit enter, please, then I'll send you these.
	Nice.
	Yeah, they just pop right in?
	They pop right in.
	These are 4K images, so you can share these.
	Look at that.
	There's just more popping in in every moment.
	I really am curious how we're getting all these colors.
	I mean, look at that.
	It's almost like monochromatic sometimes.
	Well, my theory is that the crystals are functioning as prisms.
	So they're splitting light.
	I think that's what it is.
	They're splitting light, but they're splitting it in certain 3D structures.
	Yeah, it's like, why isn't it all the same color, though?
	It's beautiful, perfectly geometrically even slices of colors.
	Yes, but what no one can explain to me is how the same chemical formula can produce all these different variations in real time.
	Right.
	And understand, too, there's no energy being put into the system.
	Wow.
	From a science point of view, this is energy being taken out of the system.
	The heat is getting lower.
	It's cooling and constructing at the same time.
	Wow.
	Yeah, I've heard that in every...
	There's like so much potential energy that you can make like an atom bomb out of it or something.
	Right, right.
	That's nuts.
	Zero point energy.
	Yeah.
	Yep, well.
	That's the quantum realm for you.
	Okay, and here's another little structure up here.
	Let's see what this is.
	Hard to say.
	It looks like it's pretty thick.
	Kind of like a scorpion.
	Yeah.
	But there's And look, it just popped in.
	Literally every second, another thing pops in right here.
	Boom.
	Boom.
	So, anyway.
	Fascinating.
	I've got a couple other things to show you off-camera.
	I want to be respectful of your time.
	Maybe we should wrap this one up for now.
	But you're welcome to come back here anytime.
	Play with this.
	Bring your own samples.
	You can do this yourself.
	You can melt xylitol.
	I just did it with a hot plate.
	You can put it on a slide and write love on it.
	Let it freeze.
	Bring it in.
	And then you can do a scan of it.
	That's so fun.
	Yeah, that's what I'm going to do.
	Have you done anything like that yet?
	I'm just starting to do that.
	Wow.
	Just beginning.
	what Veda Austin does and she's done countless experiments that I'm sure you've seen like scissors and all these different pictures she'll just lay it over top of the Petri dish for a few minutes and then go freeze it and it like perfectly copies That's exactly what's happening.
	Clearly.
	We live in a magical universe.
	And if we were to sit here and just really focus on a specific theme, it would start building things in that theme.
	But we would spend another hour.
	Yeah, you can get sucked into this easy.
	Yeah, this can eat your day.
	The colors keep popping more and more.
	Yeah.
	And let's just zoom out and get one final big picture book.
	Yeah, there you go.
	The grand finale.
	Yeah, to show people what's been happening at the macro scale.
	All of this has been built while we were playing around in that one section.
	Do you mind if I zoom in and see this fin?
	This thing right here.
	Look at that.
	It struck me as very interesting.
	See that?
	I'm talking about kind of like the light blue thing.
	Yeah.
	But it's got feather-like It looks like an arctic tundra or something.
	So everybody, what you've been watching here, and my editor will kind of tighten all that up, you know, because Aaron and I, we spent so much time cruising around these crystals.
	Aaron, I just want to thank you for what you do.
	Thank you for your courage and for your dedication to truth, to discovering it, and for your time today.
	Thank you so much, Mike.
	It's been so much fun.
	I had no idea we were going to do something like this.
	That was a really fun surprise, but I also just appreciate that somebody from your background is able to kind of jump into a whole other category of biblical scholarship and history and merge that with what you're doing.
	It's really, really cool to see, and I think we need more people like you that are willing to have those conversations.
	I think this is the spark of a lot more people.
	No doubt.
	And let me direct people to your website where they can learn a lot more.
	And you've got something you call 4D University also, but your website is AaronAbke.com.
	Yep.
	A-B-K-E.
	And can you tell us a little bit about 4D University?
	Yeah, 4D University is an online academy for the expansion of consciousness where I help people implement the teachings more so than anything.
	There's a lot of lectures and videos and learning, but...
	So I have different levels of courses that help you based on what you're wanting to work on spiritually, what areas you're looking to grow in spiritually, different courses that facilitate that with practices, meditations, teachings, and so forth.
	So it's just a place where hungry spiritual seekers can come.
	And it's okay to have a background in Buddhism or Islam or Judaism or anything.
	Even atheists could come and learn.
	Yes.
	No limits.
	No limits.
	That's how I like it.
	Love it.
	Alright, so everybody, that's Aaron Abke.
	And just what an amazing coincidence that you live near Austin, near enough to come here.
	So thank you so much for taking the time to join us.
	My pleasure.
	Thank all of you for watching with an open mind and an open heart.
	And I'll just say, in conclusion, That no matter what you heard today, no matter what your reaction was to it, understand that Aaron and myself, I think I can say this on your behalf, we believe in universal love, universal life, and universal respect and dignity for all living systems, including animals, as we talked about earlier.
	And this is just the beginning of much more knowledge yet to come your way.
	Oh, I've got to center myself here.
	Figuratively and literally.
	Much more yet to come.
	And thank you for watching today here on Brighteon.com.
	I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.
	And keep watching our channels for a lot more interesting experimental results about the interaction of consciousness with physical matter.
	Much more coming ahead.
	Thank you for watching.
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