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May 9, 2025 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
01:18:46
Conventional Christian churches have committed MORALITY SUICIDE...
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We are at a cultural crisis in the West when it comes to the response to the engineered, organized mass starvation of children in Gaza.
And this crisis affects the Christian church.
The Christian church, which claims to promote the teachings of Jesus Christ.
And of course, Jesus taught love and kindness and feeding the starving, not starving the children.
So when our Christian churches, when they practice a form or I would say a perversion of Christianity to the point where they support the mass genocide of human children and women and children and hospital patients and doctors and so on.
As the vast majority of Christian churches now support in America because of this bizarre loyalty to Zionism, when we recognize that, when we see that, we have to question what has broken this institution that we call the church.
Or maybe stated differently, this is a catastrophic failure of the doctrine.
Now, to be clear, I want to be clear, this is not a failure of the core teachings of Jesus Christ himself.
And I'm going to talk about that shortly here.
And I'm looking at, I've got two red letter Bibles in front of me right now.
One of them is called Just the Words of Jesus.
And I have read all the way through just these words, the words of Jesus.
I have decided, as someone exploring this topic and working to explore the nature of the cosmos, the nature of God, the nature of salvation, etc., I have decided that I love the words of Jesus and I love the concept of Christ and I am entirely loyal to the teachings of Jesus.
And Jesus was clearly sent by God to try to uplift So, don't misunderstand anything I'm saying here.
When I criticize the Christian church institution of our day, I'm not criticizing the words of Christ.
What I'm saying is that our churches today have abandoned the teachings of Christ, for the most part.
Now, I know there are exceptions.
But the mainstream Christian churches in the West today have absolutely abandoned the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth and the concept of the greater Christ, which is a representation of the love and light of God.
That has been utterly abandoned by the majority of our Western churches.
And so we must ask, where has this gone wrong?
How is it that we have pastors who are proudly promoting online videos where they say, kill as many of those Palestinians as possible.
Kill them all.
In the name of Jesus, they say sometimes, to kill them all.
That God has blessed us to kill them all.
How have we arrived at this point?
And we cannot understate the profound failure.
It is such a failure that the Christian church has, in fact, committed moral suicide.
It has destroyed any last shred of moral credibility that it ever had.
And in doing so, it has betrayed the teachings of Jesus Christ himself.
And of course, it has also betrayed the teachings But how is this even possible?
That we've arrived at this point where someone like myself who says we should save the children, we should not starve the children, we should work to feed the children, where I am called a heretic or an anti-Semite or whatever other label you want to think of for
simply I'm calling for actions that are aligned with Jesus Christ while the so-called leaders of the Christian churches
Are calling for actions that violate the teachings of Jesus Christ.
And yet somehow they call themselves Christians.
And when people like me, outside the mainstream of Christianity, when we challenge the mainstream Christians, they will say, well, you don't understand.
You didn't go to the Christian Bible school.
You can't possibly know what it all means.
When I say things like, well, I do understand that it's wrong to starve children to death.
Like, that's not complicated, and I don't need a degree in theology to understand this very simple point.
I've read the words of Jesus, and he's quite clear on this, actually.
This is not debated.
So it makes you wonder, what is it about the teachings of Christianity that have led this modern perversion of Christianity?
So astray.
What is it?
And as I've tried to find answers to this question, one of the things I've done, of course, is read the Red Letter Bible, only the words of Jesus.
And if you count the words of Jesus, and it's, you know, it's mostly in the four Gospels, right?
Maybe a little bit outside of that, but if you count the words of Jesus, it's about 31,000 words.
And then if you count the words of the entire New Testament, and it varies a little bit depending on which version, but roughly it's 180,000 words.
So what does that mean?
It means that Jesus accounts for only 17%, that is, his words that he spoke, or at least as they were recorded that he spoke.
Jesus' words only account for 17% of the New Testament.
And you might wonder, well, Gosh, I thought that, I mean, if you're not that familiar with the Bible, you might think you thought the whole New Testament was all Jesus.
And it isn't.
It's not even one-fifth Jesus.
So who else is speaking and writing in the rest of the New Testament?
Well, we know that in the book of Revelation, it's John, John of Patmos, and Revelation is supposed to have been given to him by...
God's angels.
And I've covered Revelation a lot, and I do find it quite fascinating.
But what about the rest?
What about after the four Gospels and before Revelation?
All the other stuff in between.
Well, the primary author of all that is Paul.
And Paul, it turns out, if you're honest, if you actually read the words of Paul with an honest mind, with Integrity of thought.
You find out that Paul contradicts Jesus on so many points.
You also find that Paul appears to be quite arrogant, and he's very condescending toward Jesus' disciples.
And Paul himself, he sort of aggrandizes himself to place himself almost on par with Jesus in certain...
Certain letters and certain speeches and certain demands.
And he places himself as almost a saint.
But yet Jesus never anointed him as such, nor did God, nor did any other official body.
Actually, he was rejected by most of the churches of the day, which is why he wrote such harsh letters to those churches, you know, telling them how horrible they were.
But the philosophy of Paul is what I have found a lot of inconsistencies with.
And this has caused many Christians, those who listen to me who are Christians, who have been classically trained in the Bible and who have been taught that everything that Paul says is the Word of God, which obviously it isn't, but some of them really freak out when you start to question what Paul said.
If you honestly look at Paul's words, Paul believed in salvation or the saving of humankind through human sacrifice, for example.
And that is God sacrificing his own son on the cross, allowing his son to be tortured and murdered on the cross.
as the sort of the final sacrifice to save humankind.
And Paul talks about this as if it was a great thing, so that God is someone that required human sacrifice.
George, Jesus himself actually never made such demands.
He never commanded the killing of human beings as an appeasement to God.
In fact, that very idea of human sacrifice, it's very...
Paganistic.
You would find that in ancient civilizations like the Inca or the Maya or other ancient cultures around the world.
A lot of human sacrifice to their gods, you know.
But that's not something that Jesus taught.
He didn't run around saying, you know, you need to kill all these people for me and for my father.
No, in fact, when he was angry overturning the tables in the temple in Jerusalem.
He was also freeing the animals.
And what were the animals there for?
The animals were there to be murdered as sacrifices to God by the Jewish priests of the day and of the time.
And you could buy your way into heaven, or at least that's kind of the way that it was sold at the time.
You could buy away your sins by purchasing the sacrifice of animals.
And if you sin a little bit, You might only have to sacrifice a lamb.
If you'd send a lot, you might have to sacrifice a bull, you know?
And Jesus wanted no part of any of this.
He wasn't just turning over the tables of the money changers.
He was completely opposed to this idea of drawing blood and killing people and animals in the name of God, you see.
Now, why does this matter?
Because in our present world, This discernment, this difference between the teachings of Jesus Christ versus Paul is ever-present.
So Paul advocated God's allowing of violence against his own son as a way to appease God for the sins of man.
And so violence against your own son.
That's not what Jesus advocated, but if you extrapolate that to modern-day Israel and Gaza, see the Christian Zionists are also advocating mass killings as some kind of sacrifice to appease their God in order to bring back, they think, Christ in the second coming and to bring back a thousand years of...
Christ's rule over the earth.
And many of these Christian Zionists think that they have to sacrifice red bulls.
They have to kill the Palestinians.
They have to kill all the enemies of Israel.
And you have to wonder, where did this come from?
Well, guess what?
Sure, it was in the Old Testament.
It was all over the Old Testament.
But it was also then reconfirmed by Paul, but never by Jesus Christ himself.
Never by Christ.
So, just as Jesus saw that the routine practice of animal sacrifice had been completely corrupted by the religious leaders, mostly the Jewish leaders of the time, and that it was a way for people to think that they could buy their way out of their sins, but that no matter how many animals they killed, they still did not engage in forgiveness, love, peace, selflessness.
They did not achieve any spiritual transformation.
You can kill all the lambs and all the goats and all the bulls, you know, in the world.
I mean, the temple, the floors of the temple sometimes would run with the blood of sacrificed animals.
And yet, these people that were buying and that were killing these animals were still filthy souls in the eyes of God.
So Jesus knew that Sacrifice and blood and killing is not a path to salvation.
He knew that.
Even though he knew that he was going to be killed, of course.
He foresaw it several times.
But he knew that that is not the path to salvation.
And thus, when an institution such as the Christian Church teaches that the human sacrifice of the Son of God is the path to salvation, and that in order for you To make it to heaven, you have to confess that you believe in that sacrifice and that Jesus rose on the third day and that you believe in Christ, but you don't match it with deeds.
You don't match it with works.
Then, frankly, Jesus would say, and he did say, I'm paraphrasing, that he does not know you and that that is not a pathway to heaven at all.
The pathway to heaven is to demonstrate your faith in God through your deeds and your works.
It's not that the deeds themselves earn you entry into heaven.
It's that the deeds demonstrate your faith.
And specifically, and this is another great contradiction between Paul and Jesus, is that Jesus taught that your deeds and your works matter.
And this is why James, of course, Chapter 2, verse 26, faith without works is dead.
And James is understood to be one brother of Jesus, a brother of Jesus.
So faith without works is dead.
But Paul taught that faith alone, that is the confession of Jesus as your Savior and the belief in the resurrection, that that alone is your salvation, regardless of your deeds, regardless of your works.
Jesus didn't believe that at all.
That's not what he taught.
He taught that the deeds matter.
So when you understand this, you realize that the institution of Christianity, as it is taught in the West today, is a perversion of the original intent of Jesus Christ.
That Christianity today, if you listen to the typical pastors that are the Christian Zionists that are pro-Israel, they are not rooted in peace.
They're not rooted in forgiveness, in charity, in kindness, love, light, any of these properties that actually defines both Jesus himself or Christ and Christ, the greater Christ, even beyond the person, but also God himself.
Like all of these things.
God offers universal salvation because God Expresses universal love.
And as I said in a previous podcast here, all human beings are God's children.
Without exception, every single child on earth is a child of God.
And when you starve any child of any race, of any ethnicity, you are murdering a child of God.
And how do you suppose God thinks about that?
What kind of judgment might be coming to those who claim to be of Jesus in their words?
They claim to accept Christ as their Savior, but then they advocate verbally and publicly, and they call for the murder of God's children.
Right?
Think about this, because it is a gross perversion of what Jesus taught.
And so, what that tells you, Is that much of the modern Christian church today, as it is practiced and as it is taught, is in fact the antithesis of Christ, meaning technically it is anti-Christ.
But they love Paul.
They love Paul.
And you know what else Paul does for a lot of modern Christians?
Paul allows Christians to be spiritually lazy.
Because if you follow Paul's work, which is, again, a larger percentage of the New Testament compared to Jesus himself, right?
All the letters, all the speeches, everything that Paul did, extremely well documented and was pushed by the Roman Catholic Church and everything else all throughout history.
They loved Paul.
That was the doctrine that they wanted to push.
Because Paul says that getting into heaven...
Doesn't require you to be a good person.
Again, I'm paraphrasing, but essentially, he says getting into heaven only requires that you confess your faith, that you confess Jesus as your Savior from your own mouth, from your own lips, and that essentially, this is implied in many of his letters that you are loyal to the church.
You tithe to the church.
You know, you, you sing the hymns, you do the prayers, you read the book, et cetera.
But where, where, where, Where's the root of what Jesus wanted us to do?
Now, granted, Paul at times would talk about how churches needed to take care of the widows, for example, and that is very Christ-like.
But there are other times where Paul's teachings are completely contradictory to what Christ taught and where Paul doesn't act with much humility.
He acts with...
Some kind of a twisted self-aggrandizement, which is very odd for a man who was a serial killer of Christians.
And if you didn't know that about Paul's history, you should.
You know, Paul was a serial killer of Christians.
He tortured and murdered hundreds of Christians before his own conversion.
And that's a pretty big deal.
I'm not sure how you get forgiveness for murdering hundreds of Christians.
And then to say that you are the representation of Christianity?
Think about it.
I mean, it's really bizarre.
And very few modern Christians even understand that history about Paul or Saul.
And so, if you think about it, the whole spirit of Paul, it actually began with the mass slaughter of God's children.
The mass slaughter of Christians.
And if you think about it today in the conventional Christian church or mainstream Christian churches that largely teaches the words of Paul, not Jesus, and certainly not John of Patmos, but largely teaches the words of Paul, these are the same churches that are teaching or advocating for the mass murder of God's children in Gaza.
So there is this pervasive theme of mass murder.
Slaughter, human sacrifice, and the destruction of the children of God that pervades more than 2,000 years, obviously.
And here it is rearing its head again today.
And I have an issue with that because I can read and because I believe what Christ said.
I believe the words of Christ.
And I believe that Jesus was a tremendous teacher and continues to be a tremendous teacher.
But I also know that God offered salvation to all human beings as his renewed covenant with humanity in Deuteronomy.
And I was reminded of that by my Bible mentor just the other day who helped me understand some of this.
So if you really Put it all together.
What Jesus and God together are saying.
God is saying that all of you are automatically saved because you're all children of God.
But the rewards that you receive after this life depends on your deeds.
Depends on whether you're a good person.
And by good person, it means the way you behave.
Not just showing up.
At church once a week and saying, I believe Jesus is our Savior, and then the other six days you run around and sin, and you're arrogant, and you're infested with the pursuit of material wealth, and you're banging hookers and whatever else modern-day pastors do.
I mean, some of them.
Not all, obviously.
But that's the far bigger question of what it takes to earn God's favor.
Remember, faith without works is dead.
Now, granted, I believe that faith is also very important.
So, remember, God has that renewed covenant with all of humankind in Deuteronomy 29, and as I also mentioned the other day in 1 Timothy 4, verse 10 says, Especially of believers, but not exclusive to believers.
So in other words, every human being is saved by God.
Every human being has already been given granted salvation, including, as in 1 Timothy, including non-believers.
It doesn't mean that their just rewards will be the same, eternal rewards, how their book of life is read, etc.
Those of faith have greater rewards, but those who don't have faith, guess what?
They will become believers the moment the afterlife begins because they're like, whoa, the afterlife is real.
I'm standing here before God.
I didn't even think God existed, and now the afterlife is real.
All of a sudden, they become souls of faith.
They all become believers sooner or later, by the way.
It's just a question of whether they're believers during this life, which is a kind of simulation, like a spiritual training ground created by God.
Okay?
So, ultimately, what Jesus taught, and I believe what God repeated again and again, is that we are judged according to who we are as vessels of allowing God to work through us.
And that God, and especially the Christ energy, is energy of love and light and forgiveness and peace, not of war and killing and sacrifice and blood and starvation.
But the Christian church today, at least the mainstream church, large parts of it, are all about war and killing and blood and kill them all and kill the bulls and sacrifice this and sacrifice that.
We've got to have blood on the...
The grounds of the temple and rebuild the temple and then there's going to be more blood and Jesus comes back and kills everybody else.
There's so much focus on blood and violence and death and that is not what Jesus taught.
Not at all.
Jesus was offended by the idea that killing would earn your way to heaven.
He was offended by it.
So, in my search for additional information on learning about this and studying the history of Paul and the history of, well, the Bible and its translations and all the books that have been hidden from us, you know, the book of Enoch, the book of Giants, the 22 missing chapters that have been taken out of the Christian, the Western Christian Bibles, yeah, it's missing 22, well, it's missing 22 books.
Not just chapters, but entire books.
The Bible's been redacted.
It's kind of like, you know, right now, lots and lots of people keep wondering, when are we going to see the Epstein files?
Well, when are we going to see the rest of the Bible?
You know?
What about the parts that were taken out?
How about that?
Well, that's been redacted, you know, just like the Epstein files.
You're never going to see the Epstein files, and the church is never going to show you the parts of the Bible that the church controllers don't want you to read.
It's always been about control.
It's about limiting knowledge, not expanding knowledge.
And it's about telling you a version of Christianity, which is really Paulianity, or Paul...
What would you call it?
Paulosophy or something?
It's not what Jesus taught.
It's this other guy who's not Jesus and not God and not a saint and not a disciple, not an official apostle of anything.
It's this self-appointed guy.
Who Jesus did not appoint and who never met Jesus, by the way.
Never spoke one word to Jesus ever in his whole life.
But who talks like he represents Jesus.
Sort of the self-appointed Jesus ambassador, you know?
So in my quest to try to find answers to all of this, because, again, I'm loyal to the words of Jesus and the teachings of Jesus, which is, again, love and peace and light, universal respect for life, universal dignity.
I mean, think about the things that I've talked about over all the years.
When I've talked about, for example, in all my years of learning how to be a long-range rifle shooter, what have I always said?
I don't kill animals for sport.
I don't hunt.
And why?
Why have I always stated that?
Because it's a reflection of who I am.
I don't kill animals.
For fun or for sport.
Jesus doesn't want us to kill animals for our sins or for sport or fun either.
And this position of mine has been something since childhood.
Something that I was taught.
And I only really began to study the Bible seriously a year ago or whatever it was.
I didn't know that that was Jesus' position on it.
It's just that my whole life, I have had compassion for animals.
And I've had compassion for all living things.
I have compassion for all children.
And it just turns out that that's also what Jesus taught.
So I'm very humbled and glad to find out that my value system that I learned and practiced long before I ever read the words of Christ, my value system...
is actually fully aligned with what Jesus taught.
But it's not aligned with the Old Testament animal sacrifices and a lot of the stuff that Paul is talking about, human sacrifice, and his whole history of mass murder, serial killer of Christians.
I don't align with that.
I align with Jesus.
And I believe in universal dignity of life.
What have I said to you many, many times?
Part of my mission here on this earth is to protect life.
I protect the lives of people and children and unborn children.
I protect the lives of animals and the dignity and the rights of animals.
That's why I have adopted and taken care of so many animals, by the way.
You know, adopting the donkeys years ago after the fires, for example, and named one of them Hosanna, right out of the Bible.
I seek to protect the life of plants and ecosystems, aquatic life, ocean life, the systems that create life.
And this is why I don't use herbicides and pesticides on my ranch.
Instead, I let life grow back.
I create habitat for animals, and I am so thrilled about that.
That's why it breaks my heart when my dog, the bunny gobbler, digs up a little bunny rabbit and swallows it whole.
Freaked out about that.
I'm horrified.
But then on the positive side, I'm so glad, like the other night, I was out walking at night, and because we've allowed so much natural life to grow on the ranch, we have dewberries everywhere, berries all over the place.
We have rabbits, so many rabbits.
On this just short walk the other night, long after dark, I must have seen at least 10 rabbits.
Just darting around, eating around in the grass.
And you know those are healthy rabbits because there's no pesticides or herbicides.
And you know what?
I am someone who believes in life, not death.
And if that puts me at odds with today's Christian church, then that is a failure of the Christian church, not of my soul or my beliefs, because my beliefs are far more closely aligned with the teachings of Jesus than Are the actions of today's mainstream Christian churches, which are promoting death and destruction and mass murder.
And I'm not comparing myself to Jesus, don't get me wrong.
What I'm saying is, at least I have followed his most basic lessons.
Don't kill things!
Don't kill things!
And I also admit where I just can't be Christ-like.
I'm not that great at forgiving pedophiles, for example.
I can't find it in my heart to forgive pedophiles.
Now, God can.
Jesus can, I suppose.
I mean, forgiveness is supposed to be one of the most important functions.
I haven't lived my whole life yet.
Maybe.
Maybe I can learn forgiveness.
But I don't know.
I don't even...
See, I'm just admitting it publicly.
I can't find it in my heart to forgive child molesters and pedophiles and child mutilators, at least not at this point.
How could I forgive them?
I would say maybe that's up to God, okay?
Whatever they earn from God's eternal consequences or whatever, that's between them and God.
I'm not saying that I would go out and try to kill pedophiles or anything like that.
I just can't forgive them.
Not in my heart.
So no, I'm not Christ-like in my forgiveness capacity because I can't forgive pedophiles.
Can you?
Can you forgive pedophiles?
I don't know.
How do you do that?
So I'm not perfect, but I absolutely know that starving children is wrong.
Starving children is evil.
And starving children, which is what, again, what the Christian Zionist churches are supporting, is an anti-Christ approach.
There's no question about it.
And, you know, don't anybody get me like, oh, judge not lest ye be judged.
Come on.
That means don't unfairly judge people.
God and Jesus both want us to have discernment, which means we have to be able to tell the difference between good and evil.
Otherwise, nothing in the Bible makes any sense at all.
Of course Jesus wants us to call out evil and to be good.
And, of course, He gives many examples of what that means, but ultimately it comes down to, as my Bible mentor told me, transitioning from being self-centered to other-centered, focusing on how you help others rather than just making yourself more wealthy or more comfortable or whatever the case may be.
Sometimes we have to sacrifice ourselves for the benefit of others.
And in order to do that, in order to know what is good, And in order to oppose evil, we have to be able to tell the difference between good and evil.
And doing so is actually not that difficult.
I mean, we're kind of born in our gut of knowing the difference between good and evil.
Like, killing children's evil.
Clothing the poor is good.
Feeding the hungry is good.
Ending suffering is good.
This is not complicated.
But somehow these Christian churches talk themselves out of the philosophy of Jesus, and they end up bombing children in Gaza and thinking it's perfectly okay.
That's what's crazy.
So, like I said, the institution of the Christian churches, the way that they are operated today, by and large, again, there are exceptions to this.
But by and large, it is a total suicide of morality.
It's an absolute cataclysmic collapse of the integrity of the church.
If the church can't stand up for starving children, then what does the church stand for?
Especially when the church claims to be following and teaching the words of Christ.
See?
And the reason this matters is because, of course, all the followers of Islam How come they can't stand for
life?
How come they can't defend starving children?
And the Hindus and the Sikhs and even many Jews are looking at the Christians.
It's like, what's wrong with you Christians?
And the Christian community should help clean up its own spiritual filth.
The churches that recognize the dignity of human life should be pressuring the other churches to say, why aren't you denouncing the bombing of women and children in Gaza?
Why aren't you denouncing that?
If you can't denounce that, What business do you have claiming to represent the Word of God or the teachings of Jesus?
If you can't even cover the basics, they don't want to do that.
They want to get lost in all this complicated doctrine.
Oh no, you need to look at these chapters and these verses and these things and don't forget to tithe.
Read these psalms and this stuff over here and this letter.
But don't pay attention to the fact that children are being bombed every day.
Don't talk about that.
So that's cowardice.
That's one of the sins mentioned in Revelation.
Cowardice.
Alongside murder.
Alongside being thieves and idolaters and so on.
Being a coward.
Today's mainstream Christian churches that are supporting Israel, they're all cowards.
Which is a sin.
In the eyes of God.
Think about these things.
And, of course, I'm thinking about them constantly.
I'm learning and also triggering a few, like, really narrow-minded, hardcore Christians who their only answer to everything is don't challenge everything I already believe because I was taught that and that's the end of it.
Okay, right?
If you can't ask questions about your philosophy or your religion, then it's not a very strong system, is it?
If you can't ask questions of it, If it doesn't have consistency, if you claim to worship the Son of God who taught peace and love, but you're also saying, let's bomb and kill these children, and if you can't see that contradiction, your mind is seriously clouded with darkness or something, or sorcery of some kind.
If you can't see that contradiction, because it's the most obvious contradiction of all.
It's like, in the name of Jesus, bomb the children.
You know, I mean, it's really that crazy.
But we hear that from a lot of Christian pastors.
A year and a half after the bombing began, we still hear it from Christian pastors.
You know, so-called Christian pastors.
Christ wouldn't even recognize them.
Christ would cry.
Like, you teach in my name?
And you advocate the bombing of children?
You know?
What's wrong with you?
So, in any case, as part of my quest for understanding, and also, out of loyalty to the teachings of Jesus, which I've said now three times here, I am absolutely loyal to the teachings of Jesus.
And I do accept Jesus as my Savior, by the way.
And I accept God as our Creator.
You know, just to be clear, in case you're wondering, I am loyal to the words of Jesus.
I am afraid that what the church has become in our modern world, Has contradicted what Jesus was teaching and the very philosophy of Jesus.
So you could call me an actual Christian who follows at least far more, maybe not perfectly, but far more closely than these Zionist churches.
I actually strive, and I think I've demonstrated over and over again, that I strive to live in alignment with what Jesus teaches.
Again, not perfect, not claiming to be perfect.
But I'm not killing kids.
I'm not starving children, okay?
That's for sure.
I mean, we're donating food.
We donated over half a million dollars of food in the last, what was it, six months or whatever it was, because I believe in feeding people who are in need.
And that's a donation that I talk about publicly.
There's a lot of donations I don't talk about because it's not about always getting public credit for deeds or whatever.
There's a lot of stuff I do privately that I'm never going to talk about.
And you'll never hear about it, and that's fine.
Not everything has to be mentioned.
But it's just who I am.
So in any case, as part of my quest to learn more about this subject, I encountered a former Christian pastor, or I should say I encountered the online information of this man, who was educated at the Oral Roberts University in Tulsa.
Which is really interesting to me because as a child, I used to watch Oral Roberts on television.
As a very young child, back in the 1970s, I liked watching Oral Roberts on TV.
I did.
I know, it sounds crazy, right?
But I did.
And so this man that I'm about to mention here, I think at the age of 22 or 23, he became a pastor.
He was kind of this genius whiz kid in...
His father was a pastor, and so he grew up as sort of always the best-informed kid in Bible class or Sunday school, and then eventually at Oral Roberts University, and he got a dual degree in, I think, theology and music, I think he said.
And then he went on to become a pastor, and he began teaching the Word of Christ and all of Paul's, you know.
Writings and letters and everything.
And before long, he also came to realize that there are contradictions here.
There are problems in what Paul is teaching.
And it's not consistent with what Jesus Christ taught.
And a lot of it's not consistent with the Spirit of Christ, which is love and light and forgiveness and humanitarian deeds and helping others, actually doing the help, not just...
Saying magic words to get into heaven, but actually performing deeds and works that help other people.
And so this man, this former pastor, he left the church.
And he has, of course, triggered a lot of Christians, as apparently I'm beginning to do as well.
But for a lot of the same reasons.
So this man, his name is Aaron Abke, and he's got a pretty...
Popular YouTube channel.
His last name is spelled A-B-K-E.
Aaron Abke.
And he has put out a video.
This was a few months ago.
The greatest contradiction in the Bible.
Paul versus Jesus.
And I didn't see this when it came out because I guess that was January or roughly around that time.
And I wish I had seen this earlier because I've been having the same questions.
So, my path of questioning the words of Paul, because they contradict Jesus, and my path of doubling down on my loyalty to Jesus' teachings has led me to the video of Aaron Abke.
And I want to play part of this video for you here.
Now, I always give credit to people for their content, so let me tell you about his website.
And he's also, he's an advocate and a teacher of the book, or the, it's more than a book, it's a whole philosophy called A Course in Miracles.
Many of you are probably familiar with that.
But anyway, his website is livingthecourse.com, livingthecourse.com.
And he has something that he calls 4D University Live, and...
This man I found by watching his videos, he is, like, if the game show Jeopardy were about the Bible, he would win every episode of Jeopardy about the Bible.
He knows everything about the Bible because he learned it from a child and he taught it and he has studied the words of Paul just maybe thousands of hours.
Well, clearly thousands of hours.
So he knows everything that Paul ever wrote, ever said.
He knows everything that happened to Paul, the timelines, and the timelines of Jesus and everything that Jesus ever said and wrote.
And he also knows a lot of the original Hebrew words as well.
He's just a really brilliant young man.
Now, I don't know what he thinks about things outside the realm of the church and the Bible.
I don't know what he thinks about vaccines.
I don't know what he thinks about health freedom.
I don't know what he thinks about LGBT themes or anything like that.
And that's not the point.
That's irrelevant.
What his area of focus is, is understanding the Bible and Paul and Jesus.
And I want to play a little bit of his video here.
I might even...
I'm going to play maybe over 20 minutes, actually, but that's about half.
To watch the whole video, you need to go to his YouTube channel or his website.
But I'm going to play about half, you know, with full credit.
I just gave out his web address, etc.
And if you have had a skeptical reaction to anything that I've said here, I invite you to continue to listen because Aaron explains it far better than I could.
Far better.
Because he's studied it, you know, a thousand times more than I've studied it.
I mean, I just finally read the Bible for the first time last year.
So, you know, most of my life I've had no knowledge of the Bible.
Even though I watched Oral Roberts as a kid, you know?
Kind of funny.
So I'm going to play this for you, I don't know, 20 or 25 minutes or whatever, roughly about half, and see what you think.
And you can find the rest of that video.
He is on YouTube, Aaron Abke, A-B-K-E again.
And I gave out the website, etc.
And let me know if you want me to reach out to Aaron.
See if we can get him on for an interview.
I'm sure it would be fascinating.
We could call the interview Triggering Christians Part 1, 2, and 3 or something.
Just see how much reaction we can get.
How dare you question Paul?
Which tells you, by the way, when you collide with people who can't discuss their religion or can't defend it, actually, that's when you know you've hit A very serious mode of mind control.
When you've kind of hit a brick wall and somebody can't even explain why they believe something, but they just believe it.
I just believe that's just the way it is and you can't question it, period.
That is very cult-like across all the cults.
And fortunately, a lot of Christians are not that way.
They are well-educated and they can discuss Scripture.
And so I'm not saying that.
All Christians are cult-like.
I'm saying that a lot of Christians are really shallow in their understanding of what they think that they believe in.
They don't even really know the Bible.
I mean, how many times have I said, I've tried to talk to Christians about the book of Revelation and they have no familiarity with it at all?
So bizarre to me.
Like, that's what I read first.
That was the best part.
Even before the Gospels, I read the Revelation.
But a lot of Christians have no familiarity with the Bible, but they just go to church and they've just been told these things by their pastor.
So they've had this weird kind of not-so-faithful translation of what they think the Bible says, and it doesn't say that.
It's just people are shocked, actually.
I've found people are shocked when I point out certain things in the Bible.
That they never knew were there.
They can't believe it.
You know, like how many times the Bible talks about flaming comets dropping out of the sky and, you know, the earthquakes and the flattening of the mountains and everything in Revelation and all of this.
I hear time and time again from people that they had no idea that any of that was ever in the Bible or even in the book of Revelation.
So I believe if we want to Learn what Christ taught.
We need to read first the words of Christ and practice the words and the philosophy of Jesus and then understand Christ in a greater sense.
Christ, to me, the word Christ means more than Jesus, the embodiment of Christ.
But Christ is the energy of love and life and light that pervades, frankly, all of reality.
Christ is in the sun in the sky.
Christ is in the sprouts of the new plants.
Christ is in the water, the vibration of the water energy.
That's Christ energy in the water.
Christ is in consciousness.
Christ is in the skin cells that heal after an injury.
Christ is in music.
Christ is in sacred geometry.
Christ is in all these things.
And that's why Christ pervades us and moves through us.
And if we allow Christ to work through us, then we become better reflections of beings of light and love and truth and forgiveness and ending human suffering, etc.
And I've never read A Course in Miracles, by the way.
I think I'm going to.
People keep telling me I should.
I've never read A Course in Miracles.
I've come to these realizations through other means, and some of it's self-discovery and some of it's observing nature and some of it's just...
Walking a path and being willing to step outside the bounds of a mind control, a mental prison system, you know?
You'd be amazed what you can accomplish if you just allow yourself to think freely.
But that's probably true across all areas.
Anyway, alright, so I'm going to play a few minutes of this for you.
Again, it's called The Greatest Contradiction in the Bible, Paul vs.
Jesus by Aaron Abke.
Enjoy.
And so as soon as I allowed myself to accept the obvious but uncomfortable fact, I knew what the implications were.
That the religion I grew up in was far, far closer to being a religion of Paul rather than a religion about Jesus.
These verses bothered me deeply as a young 20-year-old Christian pastor.
I'm surprised that my Christian friends and pastors and ministers defend these verses as being the inerrant, inspired word of God.
Nobody wants anything to do with the Jesus you preach because he's bigoted, he's anti-gay, anti-women, pro-slavery, all about punishment and wrath, and you've got to confess him as Lord like he has some huge narcissistic ego.
Confess me as Lord.
Say it out loud.
Nobody likes this Jesus.
And so today I want to talk about...
What Jesus' actual definition of salvation really was.
Because when you tell people this, it actually tends to baffle them a bit, and they say, no way.
Show me.
Prove it.
And we can and we will.
Thank you.
I want to talk to you guys today about a concept And so what I want to talk to you about today is that salvation is given, not received.
Salvation is given, not received.
Now this is a paradoxical statement, isn't it?
Because in religion, we're told that it's the opposite.
You can't give salvation.
You're just a sinful worm.
You're totally depraved, born with a sin nature.
No one's righteous, not even one, says Paul.
Salvation is not something you give.
It's something you receive when you confess Jesus as Lord and Savior.
So let's flip that around and see if that might be a more true concept according to Jesus' actual teachings.
I want to compare and contrast what Jesus taught about salvation, Jesus' words only, with A Course in Miracles.
And we'll see if there's a congruence there.
Now, a little bit of context for those of you who don't know my background on this topic.
For the last 12 months, most of you have probably noticed, God has had me on quite a journey of returning to my Christian roots.
And just sort of stoking this intense passion that God has placed in my heart to restore the forgotten gospel of Jesus to the world.
And I do mean that.
It is a gospel that has been entirely forgotten by the world.
And I would even go so far as to say, it's probably never really been preached before on this planet, other than when Jesus himself was living and walking among us and teaching his gospel.
Yes, there's been people who taught Jesus' true teachings for sure, but Jesus had a very, very specific formula for salvation, a very specific approach to salvation that has not, I don't believe, been emphasized the way it deserves outside of A Course in Miracles.
And so I have this passion to restore the gospel of Jesus to the world because growing up as a third-generation pastor's son in evangelical Christianity, I was the most devout Christian kid you've ever met.
I was the golden boy, they called me.
I won every competition in Sunday school on Bible verses and scripture.
You know, as a pastor's son, I could hardly imagine allowing another kid to beat me at knowing the Bible.
I'm the pastor's son.
So I'd studied the Bible relentlessly.
Even as a child, I strove to remember and memorize as many verses as I could.
This was the way I kind of proved my faith, right?
And so I was such a devout Christian that I really believed that you couldn't be a true Christian unless you were all in for Jesus.
And I always felt like I encountered very few other Christians who burned for Jesus the way that I did.
To me, I thought everyone else was kind of a milquetoast Christian by comparison.
This is how devout I was.
And so I went to Christian school my entire life, private Christian school.
Went to church two days a week, sometimes three or four days a week.
Went to the premier evangelical college, Oral Roberts University in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Graduated with my double bachelor's in music and theology.
and began my first full-time pastoring role at 23 years old at a church in San Jose.
And it was really when I...
I began studying the Bible at university that the fabric of my fragile little belief system finally began to crumble.
Now, I had had some questions in my mind about certain passages I'd read of like, this doesn't really make sense to me.
I'm just going to assume that there's a good explanation for this, and I'll move on.
Because my faith was strong.
I'm sure God has the answer for this.
I don't have it, but God has it.
But I couldn't do that anymore once I was in college because studying...
Hermeneutics, biblical exegesis, systematic theology, Koine Greek, biblical Hebrew.
I started to dive really deep into the text, and I started to hear the sort of confirmation biases in my professors' voices.
And I saw how easily they would just sort of hand-wave away these very clear errors and contradictions I was seeing in the Bible that nobody could give me a good answer for.
But most of all, it was really once I started to cross-compare the teachings of Paul with those of Jesus that I really woke up to the truth that I'm going to be teaching you today.
That Jesus taught a gospel of loving God with all your heart and loving your neighbor as yourself.
And that this was the only way he ever equated to salvation.
He never made an exclusive statement about salvation being contingent upon confessing him as Lord, believing in his resurrection, believing he was buried, resurrected on the third day, ascended to heaven at the right hand of God.
Jesus never told us we had to say these things or believe.
He said, believe in me, not ontological facts about me.
Don't believe facts about me.
Believe in what I'm teaching you.
Follow my commandments.
Follow the way I'm showing you to God.
And so his first followers called themselves followers of the way.
And in fact, the Essenes, Nazarenes, Ebionites that Jesus emerged from had long used the passage from the Old Testament that says, We are the voice of the one crying in the wilderness, prepare the way of the Lord, the way of the Lord.
Make straight his paths.
And that's what Jesus did is he made straight the pathway to God by demonstrating it for us.
Jesus showed us the perfect way to God.
And once we see his perfect way, we cannot help but love it.
And this is what I began to see as I cross-compared the teachings of Paul with the teachings of Jesus.
And so whenever I would hear my pastors or friends or co-workers cite one of Paul's bigoted verses, such as, 1 Corinthians 14, where Paul says, It is shameful for a woman to speak in church.
They should keep silent, cover their heads, and ask their husbands questions at home if they have questions.
Women are inherently corrupt, according to Paul, because Eve ate the apple first, Paul says, and then Adam.
The woman was deceived by the serpent, not the man.
But the man was deceived by the woman who was deceived by the serpent, but okay.
So, these verses bothered me deeply as a young 20-year-old Christian pastor.
That, you know, women are to be silent, to cover their heads, and to be pregnant as much as possible.
Because only through childbirth can they be redeemed, Paul says.
And I'm like, this is some bigotry I've never even seen before.
And, like, I didn't hold this against Paul.
He was born in the first century in a very patriarchal world.
Of course he thought these things.
I'm not surprised by that.
I'm surprised that my Christian friends and pastors and ministers defend these verses as being the inerrant, inspired word of God.
That is what deeply disturbed me.
Because I saw countless people throughout my life leaving the church, many of whom I grew up with in Sunday school at my church.
And it was always without one single exception because of a teaching of Paul that people left Jesus.
Never once did I have a friend or know of someone or hear of someone saying, I just can't jive with these teachings of Jesus in the red letters where he says, love your neighbor, love God, and repent from sin.
I hate these teachings.
I'm not a Christian anymore.
No one seems to have a problem with what Jesus said.
People have big problems with what Paul said, especially what Paul said about Jesus.
And so as I tried to reconcile these incredibly bigoted verses, and there's many more I could name, you know, supporting slavery and anti-homosexuality and all this stuff.
I was like, God, there's got to be a way to reconcile these contradictions or these bigotries.
If this is the inerrant word of God, there's got to be a way to harmonize this.
And man, did I try to do it, you guys.
I tried as hard as I freaking could.
And you know what happened?
It only made the problem worse.
It only made the contradictions more apparent and stark and irreconcilable.
So, like, I started to feel this kind of resentment towards Paul.
Like, hey dude, I know you meant well and everything, but I'm trying to defend my faith to non-Christians, and you're making it really hard for me, bro.
Like, nobody wants anything to do with the Jesus you preach because he's bigoted, he's anti-gay, anti-women, pro-slavery, all about punishment and wrath, and you've got to confess him as Lord like he has some huge narcissistic ego.
Confess him as Lord.
Say it out loud.
Nobody likes this Jesus outside of dogmatic Christianity.
And so I actually came as a devout Christian pastor to secretly wish Paul never wrote any of his epistles.
Imagine being in that position where I'm up on stage on Sunday singing songs, many of which are using Paul's teachings and scriptures, and I just despise these texts.
They stand in total contradiction to the Jesus I know and love.
And so as soon as I allowed myself to accept the obvious but uncomfortable fact, I knew what the implications were.
That the religion I grew up in was...
Far, far closer to being a religion of Paul rather than a religion about Jesus.
I tried to remember if I'd ever heard a sermon where a pastor said that the only way to eternal life is to love the needy, to love your neighbor as yourself, to forgive other people who harm you.
That's how you enter eternal life.
I'd never heard a single pastor ever preach a sermon on that.
In fact, they would probably rebuke that as blasphemy and say, no, no, no, no one is saved by good works, only by believing in Jesus as the Lord and Savior and resurrected on the third day.
And that's what they believe, that Jesus taught.
And yet Jesus says in Matthew 19, 16, Mark 10, 17, Luke 18, 18, the exact opposite.
Not everyone who calls me Lord, Lord, who just confesses me with their mouth will enter the kingdom of heaven.
But only the one who does the will of my Father.
So Jesus taught a heavily works-based gospel.
And this is so obvious that there's even many famous Christian ministers today who acknowledge this.
And an entire doctrine in Christianity was invented to obfuscate this obvious contradiction called dispensationalism.
Some of you have probably heard of this if you grew up Christian.
Dispensationalism says Jesus came to be God's last animal sacrifice.
You know, God wanted all these animal sacrifices, even though half the prophets vehemently condemned them.
God wanted sacrifice.
He needs blood and violence and death and murder to forgive people.
Yes, yes, that is God.
And so he was like, you know what?
I'm tired of killing all these animals.
Let me just kill my son and he'll be the last animal sacrifice.
I'll butcher him on a cross that will satisfy my bloodlust and wrath.
And I'll finally be able to forgive my own children.
That's the gospel according to Paul, according to Pauline theology.
And I found it to be increasingly reprehensible, especially when stacked up against the teachings of Jesus.
And so the problem I kept confronting in all my studies is that there are absolutely no verses in any of the four canonical gospels where Jesus ever equates salvation to confessing him as Lord or believing in his resurrection.
Or even Paul's central idea that we are saved by faith alone, apart from works, Romans 3.28.
Not only did Jesus not teach this concept to anybody, but Jesus made it clear in many passages, such as Matthew 7.21, that he is especially displeased with people who confess him as Lord, but do not obey his greatest commandment to love others.
Jesus called people who confessed him as Lord but didn't follow his greatest commandment, practitioners of wickedness.
And he said to them, I tell you the truth, I never knew you.
What do you mean, Lord?
I've confessed to you.
I've done miracles in your name.
Yeah, that's great.
But when I was hungry, you didn't feed me.
When I was thirsty, you didn't give me a drink, etc.
And this began to sober me greatly because I realized I wasn't really living the gospel of Jesus.
I was judging people in my heart.
I was judging my neighbor instead of loving my neighbor.
And so this bothered me, so I would bring it to my Christian friends and pastors to see what they would say.
And you know what their response was every single time?
Same exact response?
Well, brother, Jesus isn't speaking about believers in this passage.
He's clearly talking to non-believers.
Because if you believe in Jesus, he's in your heart, he's your friend, you know him.
Jesus can't say to you he never knew you.
If you've confessed him as Lord and Savior, he enters your heart.
He knows you.
So he's obviously talking about non-Christians.
Read the passage.
Jesus is explicitly speaking to his very closest followers and disciples, those who call him Lord, Lord, and say, we've done signs and wonders in your name.
We've cast out demons.
We've healed the sick.
Last time I checked, I don't think atheists go around healing the sick.
And confessing Jesus as Lord, Lord, he's talking to his very most intimate disciples and warning them, do not think you get a free pass into the kingdom of heaven just because you call me Lord.
I don't care what you call me.
I don't care what you say.
I don't care if you say you do miracles in my name.
Follow my commandments.
Do what I say, which is love God with all your heart.
Love your neighbor as yourself.
And so today I want to talk about What Jesus' actual definition of salvation really was.
Because when you tell people this, it actually tends to baffle them a bit and they say, no way.
Show me.
Prove it.
And we can and we will.
So what does it mean to be saved according to Jesus?
I'm actually going to cross-compare passages from A Course in Miracles with these teachings to show you that this is why I have devoted my life to teaching A Course in Miracles.
And why I continue to remain so passionate about teaching this life-changing text to the world.
Because again, this message of salvation given in ACIM is perfectly identical to the message of salvation that Jesus taught.
But before we do that, I want to show you a quick clip that I saw yesterday.
Because I think this will set the tone for the conversation perfectly.
And this is one of my favorite critical scholars named Dr. Bart Ehrman.
Like myself, Bart grew up as an evangelical Christian, went to Bible college, studied theology and all of this, and had an awakening out of fundamentalist Christianity.
Today, he defines himself as an agnostic, but he's asked, you know, which gospel he prefers between Jesus and Paul.
And this is a very highly acclaimed critical scholar.
Responding to this question, which teaching do you prefer, Jesus or Paul's?
And notice he won't say, well, what do you mean?
They're the same gospel.
But I want you to listen carefully to his answer.
If you had to between Jesus and Paul, which one would you be going with?
Given the difference between a doctrine of atonement, that somebody, a human, you need a human sacrifice for the sins of others, or God, you cannot be reconciled with God.
Unless somebody is tortured to death.
I find that distasteful.
And I don't like the doctrine of atonement at all.
The idea that God is a loving Father who will forgive you if you ask for forgiveness.
You generally are sorry for what you did.
You promised to change your ways and God forgives you.
That's a much more palatable understanding, I think, of the divinity.
And I think that it's a much better way to understand religion.
It's a religion of love and care for others and forgiveness.
It's not a religion of blood vengeance.
And so I think for me, I...
You and me both, Bart.
So this is a critical scholar who has devoted his life to studying the Bible, the New Testament.
And he himself says exactly what we are saying here.
That there are two very different Gospels, and you have to choose which one you will follow and believe in.
And so this is an interesting thing to me, that there are entire branches of scholarship dedicated exclusively to studying Paul's unique ideas about Jesus and how they were in sharp contrast with what Jesus taught and how a...
Jewish Reformation movement, which is what Jesus began in the first century.
He was trying to reform Judaism back to the law of Moses, not to start a new religion.
How a Jewish Reformation movement became an exclusively Gentile religion that scrubbed out every remnant of Jewishness from it and basically turned it into a Greek pagan religion about ritual sacrifice.
There's entire branches of scholarship devoted to studying this.
And there's an entire branch of scholarship devoted to studying, you know, the great schism between Paul, the battle of the apostles, between Paul and the twelve, that they repudiated Paul as a false teacher and a false prophet and apostle because he taught something different than Jesus.
And yet I'm still attacked by Christians on social media every day for claiming that Paul taught a different gospel than Jesus.
And Christians will still deny that there's any difference at all between Jesus and Paul's teachings.
And they'll tell me that Paul taught exactly what Jesus taught.
There's no difference.
And this is the type of sort of gaslighting you usually see from fundamentalist religions.
And so I've asked myself, how?
How can so many billions of people, ostensibly two billion people, if that figure is correct, two billion Christians, how can they read this Bible, this New Testament, and come to the conclusion that Paul and Jesus taught the same thing?
And after my countless interactions and conversations with Christians on this topic, the answer has become very clear.
That they simply have been programmed not to see it.
By the institution of religion.
They're sort of trained not to see what's right in front of them.
They're taught that any other gospel is a heresy.
Blasphemy will send you right to hell.
So you can't afford to just read Jesus' words alone.
You've got to interpret Jesus through Paul or you might end up in the hot place, if you know what I mean.
And so I can show Christians blatant, irreconcilable contradictions between Paul and Jesus and they just say, no, that's not a contradiction.
For example, What is it?
Romans, I believe.
Paul says, For Christ is the end of the law to everyone who believes, having abolished the law in his flesh.
And Jesus says, Matthew 5, 17, I did not come to abolish the law, but to fulfill it.
For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the law until all is accomplished.
Ooh, that's a pretty heavy indictment against what Paul said, isn't it?
Last time I checked, heaven and earth seem to be doing great.
They're still here.
So the law can't have passed away.
And of course the law can't pass away because the law is eternal.
The law is based upon God's nature, which can never pass away.
Divine law governs the entire universe.
What do you mean, Paul, that it passed away and Jesus abolished it?
This is why Jesus said until the universe itself passes away, not even the slightest part of the law will pass away.
It's impossible.
And then, of course, Paul says, Romans 10.9, if you confess with your mouth Jesus is Lord, you will be saved.
But Jesus in Matthew 7.21, not everyone who says to me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven.
And these are just two of countless contradictions we can pull out.
And so I'm just told, no, no, no, you just don't understand the context or, you know, whatever kind of gaslighting.
You're just not, you're cherry picking or whatever.
Now, when I follow up by asking Christians, okay, I'm open to being wrong here, but you're making a very extreme claim.
You're claiming Jesus didn't teach all this stuff about following the commandments, loving God, and loving your neighbor.
No, that stuff sends you to hell.
You can't get saved by doing that.
That's works.
It's filthy rags.
You can't be saved by good works or following the law.
It's impossible.
You have to confess Jesus only as your Lord and Savior, and that's all you can do to be saved.
Well, that's a very extraordinary claim.
Because we don't have Jesus ever saying such a thing.
So you need to show me in the mouth of Jesus, not Paul, where Jesus said that.
And of course, they can't show a verse where Jesus said that because there isn't one.
So the closest they get is usually something like John 3.16.
And what's interesting about John 3.16 is that the word for...
Whoever believes in him is the word pisteu.
Pisteu is the believe in.
And in all 34 instances of the word pisteu, believe, in the Gospel of John, they're all in the active tense.
So the more accurate way would be who is believing in him.
Whoever is believing in him, like consistently, daily, over and over again.
But even the word believe is not...
Not the right translation there.
The more accurate translation of pisteo is to obey, to trust in, or to commit oneself to.
And there's many instances where Jesus is quoted as using, let's say, pisteo to say, commit yourselves to God, not believe yourselves to God.
So when you translate that word pisteo to trust or obey, it makes perfect sense in every context where it's used.
If you translate the word pisteo as believe in, Everywhere it appears.
A lot of verses make no sense at all.
They're very bizarre.
So the more accurate reading of John 3.16 should have been translated, Whosoever is trusting in him, whosoever is obeying him, shall not perish, but have everlasting life.
And isn't that what Jesus said?
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