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May 7, 2025 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Psychotherapist Leslie Powers discusses OVERCOMING TRAUMA and reforming our health system...
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Welcome to today's interview here on Brighteon.com and today we're joined by a guest who is a participant in the Health Revealed, I don't even know what you call it, it's a collection of videos and educational content put together by Corey Endrelat and that's at healthrevealed.org and our guest here today is Leslie Powers who is a clinical, well a social worker, a clinically trained social worker from California.
And I'm reading from your bio also a psychotherapist and educator with a passion for really helping people heal in profound ways by taking back their own power as well.
So welcome to our studio.
Welcome to the interview today.
Thank you very much.
I'm really happy to be here.
It's great to have you here.
Thank you for taking the time.
Let me adjust the mic to get a little bit closer to you.
You're kind of soft-spoken, which is probably very...
I imagine the people you work with like that.
You don't come across as intimidating to them.
Correct.
That's an advantage.
You don't want to be threatening, you know.
Yes.
So tell us about yourself and what you do.
So I graduated with my master's in social work in 1990.
So I've been in the field for 35 years and worked in a very diversified...
Settings, with ages from preschoolers up to Alzheimer's.
I've worked in home-based settings, school-based settings.
I've worked in foster care, adoptions, outpatient mental health at community mental health levels, group homes, residential treatment centers.
So I have a very broad range of experience and exposure.
You can write books about humanity, I think.
Right, right.
From that experience, I've been able to observe the similarities across all of this, in four different states, from New York to Connecticut, New Mexico, and California.
And what I noticed is that the people generally, as a social worker, and people who go into mental health are generally very big-hearted people.
They want to help.
They're very caring people, and yet the people that go into these systems and fields are often not really given a lot of support.
We're often thrown into the fire and very inundated with overwork, essentially, with very high caseloads, especially when you're working in...
State, county, government-funded organizations, which what I've come to realize, really, the social work profession is really geared towards working for the system.
Right.
Do you currently work in that kind of system, or do you do your own thing privately?
I'm an independent contractor, essentially doing private practice, but I still have some connections to the system in that I...
I work with insurance.
So I work with clients who have insurances, and so I'm still getting to get the first-hand stories of what that is like with working with our insurance companies, etc., and the barriers and challenges that a lot of people have with getting health care.
For nine years, I worked in a health care center.
They were really doing a big effort to be integrative, so they had...
Medical, dental, behavioral health, there was a mission centered around care.
And I also had another really cool opportunity working in an inpatient and residential treatment center with a psychologist who his program involved kids that would wake up and go running.
They did karate.
They would work towards an event where they were actually running up a mountain.
This was incorporated into the treatment.
Very innovative.
As well as this integrative health model where they knew that the medical providers needed support of people who knew mental health and could work together to help support individuals and meet a lot of their...
Basic needs and social needs and, you know, housing needs and things like that.
So recognizing a whole person.
But what I've noticed is that those innovative programs, eventually, they get, essentially, they get shut down in a sense.
They can no longer be innovative.
The regulations and the protocols that are required and the funding sources and all of this end up putting them in boxes where they can no longer do innovative things because they're pretty much stuck.
They're trapped in the very rigid regulations that govern their, you know, that license them.
Right, of course.
And pay the bills.
Well, let me ask you one.
I'm going to call this one of the elephants in the room questions.
And I think in the area in which you work, there are so many elephants in the room.
It's like a circus of elephants that are not being addressed, kind of like what you just mentioned.
But one of those, I would say, but feel free to disagree with me if you think I'm wrong on this.
It's your experience.
I see that there's a lot of just throwing medications at people.
And I see this in veterans.
I see this in youth.
One of my family members is a counselor who worked the suicide watch shifts in a rural community.
There's a lot of suicide attempts, and there's a lot of meth drug abuse also.
But do you also see that there's a tendency to throw psychiatric medications at people?
Most definitely.
And often one psychiatric medication leads to the second or the third, and it can very easily snowball, and people become...
Very stuck.
And it becomes a real challenge to pull that back.
Now the other flip side of this, especially in California and the area I've lived, is there were some doctors who were very much medicating heavily for pain.
And then the state came down and started to take their licenses away and threaten licenses because of that.
So then all of a sudden fear came in and they were just cutting people off of...
Well, there was a lot of opioid abuse, so that was the reaction to that.
Right, and benzodiazepines, that all of a sudden they would just cut people off.
I had an elderly gentleman who had very delicate health who, they just cut him off everything, all at once, and without real sensitivity to the years that he had been on those medications, and people spiral.
So I recognize that there's a big compartmentalization within the field where the doctors who prescribe medications have a paradigm.
They have a model based on medication.
And then the mainstream physicians have a model based on...
The protocols and the education they were given in the Western medical model.
And they're really prohibited from sharing alternative or more holistic approaches.
And there's a sense of fear, really, around losing your license all the time.
And that happened during COVID years.
In California...
Many doctors were prosecuted or lost their license.
Right.
And I think even...
So when, for example, as a social worker, if I have a job and I'm working with anyone on Medi-Cal or Medicare, we're mandated to watch these videos about health privacy or other protocols that are being asked.
But what I've noticed, really, is they're all about making threats.
Half of the video is threatening us that if we leave a paper on the table that might have a person's name on it, that we could not only lose, you know, we could be fined, we could go to jail.
And there's a lot of that peer-based rhetoric in the training.
Wow, so they're traumatizing the people that are trying to work out the trauma for the public.
Right, and that's a big part of my message, is that...
Everyone at every level of the system has a degree of trauma.
And the system itself is a cause of that.
And so my observation is these good parted people that are going into their work are getting good work done despite the system.
But what is the system?
It's a hierarchy of trauma.
Well, a hierarchy that creates...
And disconnection, in essence, does lead to trauma.
And the disconnection is getting wider as the stressors of life are increasing.
I want to ask you about that very point.
So thank you for bringing that up.
I think that's one of the other elephants in the room, is that people's trauma is not...
Magical, spontaneous, without cause.
Correct.
There are inputs.
There are stresses.
And one of those, for example, I'm going to talk about monetary policy for a moment.
So when our government prints currency, and they're printing trillions of dollars a year right now, that devalues the currency that people have.
And so it creates stress in their life where they're...
Their rents go up, their grocery prices go up, they feel less capable as a person of either providing for their family or being able to survive and stay afloat above water themselves.
So this is a, it becomes a psychological stress, but the root input is monetary policy that does not value the worker.
The man or woman who worked to get a paycheck thinking that it's going to be worth the same.
it but it's not sure right so the these factors are becoming more strenuous than they ever than they have been in our lifetimes I would say sure and and people are working for a living they're working to pay their bills and to raise their families and to survive and that is very much an issue around maintaining the dysfunction in the system because
People become attached to the...
One, you become attached to what you've been told and how you've invested your time into the system.
And then we start to identify ourselves a bit with our job, with our role, with the system itself.
And that becomes our story, really, our identity in many ways.
And a lot of what we're in this project doing is sort of challenging some of the fundamental...
Ideas that they were taught, you know, from talking about trauma is starting really young with parenting practices and the, for example, the need for two parents to work, basically to survive, pulling kids away from their mothers.
Which is also related to monetary policy, by the way.
Exactly, yeah, exactly.
And so children are, you know, going into daycares.
Now as a clinical...
Social worker, psychotherapist, I'm very trauma-informed.
I'm very aware that the attachment, the relationship with your caregivers right from the start is an important foundation for everything that happens, and that the experience of children is the foundation for how an adult interacts with the world.
And that also is true about our health.
So there are things that are set in motion, That start very young around the nervous system and the relational attachment, which is about security and safety.
So when we have a secure relationship with our mother, our father, and the adults in our life, and we're well taken care of, and we have safety and love and repair of missteps in that process, then that child has a foundation, one, of trusting not only that they're safe and they can trust, The people in their lives, but they can trust themselves.
So self-trust is a really important piece of this, and it relates to the way we interact with our medical providers.
So when we are trusting ourselves and recognizing that we have a body that responds in predictable ways, that we have choices, then we can...
Develop what's called an internal locus of control.
A sense of, I have power, and I have power to make myself healthy.
I can take actions that can create a good life for myself.
So, when we're in this model of healthcare right now, it's very much about not...
A lot of people that I am seeing, they are losing trust in themselves.
People do not really, they're not educated in their, how your body works or how your psychology works.
You're told you have to go to the doctor.
You have to go on a certain schedule.
Don't do anything on your own.
You do what the doctor says.
There's a worshipping of the letters after your name and the expertise.
And it creates a disconnection from A person's really ability to trust themself, if you're in this mindset, this training, essentially, that we have from childhood to worship and trust the external authority, which is the doctor.
And I don't apply this to all doctors, but many doctors can be rather arrogant and condescending, right, in the way that they talk to patients.
Like, you don't know anything.
Oh, did you read that on the internet, etc.?
Sure, sure, and may discourage that because, you know, don't look up Dr. Google, you know, but at the same time, I've worked with a lot of very well-meaning, very big-hearted physicians and nurse practitioners, and yet they are inundated with...
Basically, you have 15 minutes.
Every minute of your day.
That's like a luxury.
Yeah, that might be excessive, right?
And you might only be allowed to talk about one problem at a time.
There's a lot of separation from even your own body, right?
Because we are all, our mind-body-spirit system is integrated, is united.
Heart and our lungs and our skin and all of this are interconnected, right?
And in this medical system right now, it's very segmented and compartmentalized.
And so there's this disconnection at all levels.
And so even with the good-hearted doctors, they often are overwhelmed.
They're overwhelmed, and there's a loss of trust that goes both ways.
The patients are getting frustrated and losing faith in the doctors, and the doctors are frustrated with the patients, because even when they are saying, you know, change lifestyle, a lot of patients are resistant to that.
And so there's this...
There's discontent going on that I'm really witnessing, and a lot of fear coming up.
Now, understanding psychology, the fear and the emotional reactions are very much related to our health outcomes.
Chronic stress, trauma, is at the root of most health problems.
Let me add, to confirm that I'm a nutrition-educated food scientist, but fear and stress can cause nutrient depletion.
And the nutrient depletion then causes this cascade of other problems.
You can have, for example, even mood disorders related to depletion of nutrients.
So this cycle can be started by fear, and the patient may not even be aware that this is happening.
They're on the rollercoaster ride.
The rollercoaster gets more and more scary.
They don't know why, and they're caught in this cycle.
And they may be lacking nutrition, or they may be lacking compassion.
They may be lacking acceptance from a family member or something, right?
But there could be one element missing from their equation that could fill in the gaps for them.
Sure.
Sure.
I'm familiar with a colleague who had a very young client, four or five-year-old little boy, Having incredible aggression and acting out.
And it was very, you know, off the hook.
And this little boy was hospitalized and put in inpatient hospitals.
I think he had several times and they couldn't figure it out.
And it was actually a doctor who decided to look into amino acid.
And he found that there was a depletion of an amino acid in this little boy.
And that was the underlying cause of this behavioral condition.
Did he have a genetic?
I don't know.
It wasn't my client.
So it was, you know, in the mental health clinic I worked at, it was a colleague's client.
But it's a good example.
But I think even more so, the relational aspects of, and the, okay, let me see if I can get to this.
There's, when you are not trusting yourself or your body, as you were talking about a little bit ago, that the body is self-healing.
It can heal itself under proper conditions.
And the conditions we live in in the modern world are creating an incredible amount of stress.
And that stress is perpetuating the dysfunction of our bodies and our mind-body system.
So if we are stressed out and we are anxious and we are scared, that is going to create a cascade of effects in our body that then...
When not addressed or not alleviated because you're having to be in survival mode all the time, no matter how many medications you get or how much change in your self-talk or affirmations you do, that is not going to be addressing the root of the problem.
So there are conditions in which the human being thrives, and there are conditions in which we do not thrive.
And so when we look at this project called...
You know, around statism, and when I think of, like, how the system is really getting in the way, the effects of the system, in all of the control mechanisms and the rules and regulations that practitioners or providers like myself are being basically coerced to follow,
under duress, under threat, actually, of losing our license or losing our livelihood, then we are in a We're in dissonance.
We are in conflict, internal conflict, which ripples out into external conflict between the provider and the patient.
It leads to a disconnection from ourselves.
And that disconnection from our bodies and from ourselves is also a cause of illness.
So if you are a provider and you have to run like crazy, like a psychotherapist typically is almost like an assembly line of clients.
After hour after hour while you're sitting in a chair.
Wow.
Many of us are now on the computer.
We're often not taught how to manage our own energy.
Typically in a standard school, the self-care elements and the impact on the provider itself is not even talked about.
And so, as a social worker in most settings, you're being thrown into an environment where your caseload is extremely high, you're not given ample support, and you're winging it, and you're doing your very best, and then you have hours of documentation, which is actually pretty irrelevant in many ways to the actual work that is benefiting the client, but is mandated by an insurance company or by the government, state, or county.
It creates a condition of a highly stressed, high pressured environment.
For the practitioners.
For the practitioners and the clients and patients.
Can I interject that a very interesting parallel to what you're describing, in fact, your entire description could also apply to police officers.
The cops that actually Go to the abuse calls, especially.
Yes.
The cops that make the calls and go to the apartment building and knock on the door, they're thrown into the same thing.
It's crisis after crisis after crisis, a steady stream to the point where a lot of cops, and I know a lot of cops, they become highly desensitized.
Oh, yeah.
And I'm not blaming them.
You can't sit there and sob on the job every time you see somebody who is in a destructive pattern.
Or every time you see a battered wife that refuses to press charges, let's say.
Which cops see that all the time.
Or you walk in and it's a drug-infested apartment with two kids that are clearly not doing well.
But deeper than this...
There seems to be this lack of humanity, this lack of recognition of human dignity pervades all of this that you're talking about and that I'm talking about.
So isn't there something in society where, because of the mechanistic, top-down, centralized approach of government, it has taken the humanity out of our society?
100% well said.
That desensitization is very real, and it happens to the best meaning, the best intended person who goes into these fields, whether it's being a teacher, a psychotherapist, a doctor, a nurse, a police officer.
And when you are under-resourced yourself and not even really given much support for your own mental health and your own physical well-being, I've worked in mobile crisis.
I've partnered with police in some of those...
So you know exactly what I'm referring to.
And there are, you know, different levels of competence and care, you know, and that applies to all these fields.
But people get burnt out.
Absolutely.
And experience secondary trauma without ample means to metabolize.
All of this intensity.
It's like intensity, intensity, and you're moving from thing to thing, and we're not taught in school how to really properly manage all of that emotion.
We're not taught in schools.
There should be basic curriculum for all children and all people going into these fields to know how to manage your own responses to the stress and pressure.
That's a really good point.
I have something interesting, because I'm known as a food scientist.
I have people with some frequency ask me how they should change their diets in order to achieve a certain goal.
And of course, the first thing I say is, I'm not a doctor, so I just want you to know that.
And the second thing I say, and I think you'll laugh at this, I say, I want you to record a food log for seven days, everything you eat and drink.
And do you know what?
To this day...
Two things.
Not once has anybody ever given me a food log.
Secondly, but they do sometimes call me back and say, oh, just by trying to make the log, I found out I was eating like crap, and I fixed the problem, so thank you.
It's like, let's put the mirror back on you.
I want to ask you about the personal responsibility of the patient or the person in this.
Because there is a tendency in Western society for a person to push the responsibility for healing onto another outside party.
I'm sorry to take so long, I'll turn it back over to you, but I've seen people say things like, well, I don't know why the doctor put me on diabetes drugs, but then in their shopping cart it's Pop-Tarts and donuts and ice cream.
And it's like, hey, there's a disconnect here.
You don't want to be on these drugs, but you want to eat these things, and guess what?
Cause and effect.
How do you talk to people about that in a society where there's a tendency to say, "I'm not responsible for my outcomes," and sometimes, you know, abuse does come from outside.
Sure.
Like sexual abuse situations, right?
Or sometimes trauma does come from outside, but sometimes it's self-inflicted trauma.
Sure.
It's usually a combination.
Yeah.
And there's a lot of this stress and trauma that is really normalized in our society in parenting practices and in the school systems that is very much teaching us.
wisdom and the messages of our body.
Most people are actually very disconnected from their own body and their own emotions.
And there's a culture of escapism and a sort of addictive impulsivity and avoidance.
And so when someone has a diagnosis and they know they should eat better and they don't, that's one of the doctor's biggest frustrations.
So as a Therapist, I recognize that this is a real internal issue.
And I go inward with people to look at how this behavior is a part of them that was developed to cope with something that is overwhelming from their past, usually something from childhood, that creates a mechanism of how we survive.
How do we get through life?
And when there's a lot of pressures on us, but we don't have the personal capacity to handle it and we're in overwhelm, our amazing, miraculous system creates strategies internally to help us to get by and do what is being rewarded in society or what will allow us to survive, allow us to pay our bills, allow us to get up and go to work every day.
And those are parts of us that become rewarded in society, in a sense.
The more disconnected we are from our own internal compass, often are resulting in the most approval externally.
And yet, that often leads to unhappiness, depression, addiction.
I mean, many people in the healthcare field end up with their own addictions.
And, you know, speaking of the police and the emergency personnel, often the way they cope with this overwhelming...
The experience of trauma that they're witnessing is through escapism or addiction and then developing mental health conditions, things like post-traumatic stress, or even if it's not fully PTSD, there's still evidence in the chaos of their life or in the health deterioration.
Any symptom that we have in our body is telling us something about our internal world.
We need to slow down in order to look within and map this out.
And it is something that you can identify.
It is something that you can see when you go inward and review your own life, in a sense, and identify where you've developed patterns of disconnecting from your own self.
That disconnection leads to external symptoms and patterns.
So our world, especially in this rapid-fire healthcare system, does not promote the slowing down that's really, I think, essential to real health.
That's a really good point.
I make it a point to walk in nature with my goats and my dogs every day.
I actually walk my goats.
It's that contact with nature that I consider one of the greatest blessings of my life because it gets me off the screens, off the news, out of all that stuff, which is so overwhelming and so stressful.
Even though I have a lot of balance and I have all the nutritional advantages that many people don't know about, but even then, dealing with, oh, today this country announced it's going to bomb this other country.
We all might die tomorrow.
Processing that...
Is a challenge for even the healthiest of people.
Yes.
But that's the world in which we, like, I'm not going to make this political, but in our world, we can wake up tomorrow and our president may have announced, oh, there's no more products coming from China.
Like, well, wait a minute, my whole business depends on, I'm not saying my business, but I'm acting like another person.
Maybe they're an importer from China.
Boom!
Their business is gone in one day.
This lack of predictability or continuity of reality is very traumatizing to a lot of people.
It's like the soup we're all in.
We could do everything right in terms of health behaviors.
I'll just say this.
I wanted to bring up the point about the field generally has prescripted protocol.
For a diagnosis, okay, if you're diagnosed with this, then this is the intervention protocol, right?
You know, in my field, we have research-based interventions, you know, that we're allowed to use, you know, and you kind of have to write your note in a certain way and show that you're doing these approved things.
But it takes away the individual's creative attunement to the individual.
Because the same protocol or intervention is not the same for everyone.
That's right.
Right?
And so really coming to the individual and understanding their whole biopsychosocial spiritual self and the history of what created them, which is fascinating and unique with commonalities in how our systems work, but really getting to know ourselves deeply will help us to figure out the...
The protocol to follow.
Now, being in nature is important, and we are more and more being disconnected from nature, and disconnected from our nature, because we are part of nature.
And so we can also learn from nature how to, and from learning from our own body, of recognizing it as part of nature, to develop what creates health.
And yet that is not what is taught.
And that is not what is promoted.
So we are...
Community, purpose, connection, all these issues that have been part of even, let's say, the Native American traditions before the rest of the people came to this continent.
But these things are not part of the equation of our modern system.
And look at the brutality.
indigenous people.
Absolutely.
And people who did live close to the land and were acquainted with a healthy rhythm of life connected to the natural rhythms, being aware of our interconnection with the natural rhythms and so forth, they have been traumatized.
Now, the trauma can be passed on, really, epigenetically through generations.
That's true.
So not only are we...
We're receiving sort of predisposition in our DNA, but we're also experiencing the emotional woundings and the relational woundings and the abandonments and the traumas of our parents and their parents and so forth back on, and operating really unconsciously in automatic behavior that then gets programmed by the systems that we're interacting with.
See, you hit upon a really important point.
And by the way, I feel like I could talk with you for hours about all these things.
But, you know, I've interviewed Dr. Bruce Lipton and others in this field.
But you're right.
Part of the fear and the trauma is actually programming the field which influences our consciousness reality.
Yes.
So there's actually way more damage being done to humanity than is apparent on the surface.
It's actually, like you said, it's a transgenerational trauma.
And it becomes unconscious because it's seen as normal.
And so the lifestyles that we have, that we see as this is just the way it is, this is normal, really isn't natural.
And it puts a strain on our species.
Yeah, that's a really good way to put it.
You're right.
And over time, we are wearing down, and we're seeing the evidence of that in our society, and we're seeing the evidence of that in our healthcare system, and we're really in a state of crisis.
Yes.
As a species?
Yes.
Yes.
And I think the lack of real understanding of trauma and the effects of chronic stress and the needs...
I'm really big on the importance of healthy relationships from the beginning and the healing power of relationships.
Because people are very alone.
They're very isolated.
The world is really promoted through...
Events since, you know, 2020 especially of even more disconnection.
And people are lonely and they're scared.
So what happens when people are scared?
They look to that external kind of pseudo-parental figure.
To give them answers, right?
And the adults and all of us have the risk of becoming almost like children in adult bodies looking to the expert.
Oh, we see that all the time.
And so trusting and then losing, again, connection to the answers that are really found within.
So that's a great segue to my last question for you today, which is, given the context of everything that you've shared with us, which is really extraordinary.
And very insightful.
I'm so glad we're having this conversation because this is so critical for healing our world.
It also explains the rise and fall of civilizations, I think, in some cases, too, because some of this is not sustainable.
But given the context of this, healthrevealed.org, and how do you wrap a layer of understanding around everything that you've just presented that is a practical way for people to take back Their power from a system that you have just described as being so disconnected from the real needs of human healing.
Right.
So it really does mean coming back to self and valuing oneself first and foremost, recognizing that one does have an intrinsic Oh gosh, healing mechanism, ability to thrive.
So a lot of it is education, but it's also awareness.
It is consciousness of seeing the patterns and then detaching, really, from a lot of the systems.
Because the hierarchy and the authority-based system, which we're kind of calling statism, the umbrella of statism, is what is, it's kind of like the straight jacket.
It's the...
It's holding people back, and when people can start to see that, start to rebuild trust in themselves, learn about the inner work, learn about psychology, learn about power and control dynamics, start to have a care for the truth, and be willing to look at all the contradictions using their own critical thinking, rather than following...
The orders, right?
Or following the directions of an expert blindly and always looking externally for someone to tell you what to do.
It really is about coming back to self.
That's a really important point.
And I observe this across every political spectrum, every spectrum of faith or origins, cultures, you name it.
There is this tendency.
To look for an authority to tell you how to think.
And that includes government itself.
And that includes this dependency, this psychological dependency on a system we would call government to keep us safe.
So it comes back to the core of an infant who needs safety.
It's a fundamental drive for safety and security.
And that comes through relationship.
And that comes through learning to have this Self-knowledge and to build that esteem and that sense of I can find the answers to my problems and it can be not just in isolation but in relationship, loving relationship, caring relationship, sensitivity to and educated understanding of how things really work.
When we look at nature, what nature is really the ultimate teacher.
And we instead are looking to the answers in a fabricated, artificial, human-made structure, which is really built on power and control and agendas that really have nothing to do with our mental or physical health.
That's absolutely right.
And I hope you don't mind, I have a follow-up on that because AI.
So the number one use of AI now, as of this year, is people are using it for mental health, And relationships.
They're befriending their AI girlfriends, boyfriends, whatever, agents.
And you can see where this is going.
Before long, you'll have an AI robot walking around.
Want to be friends?
And half the population is going, yes, I need a friend.
It's a lot easier than another human.
Because humans won't always agree with you.
It really shows, it tells us that is an effect of a condition, right?
That is creating this deep desperation in people to have connection, to have love, unconditional love.
Even with the machine.
Validation, and because...
They're so desperate that they'll settle for falling in love with a machine.
And it shows a lot of the immaturity of our culture and the lack of education around interpersonal dynamics, communication, conflict resolution, problem solving, understanding the mind-body-spirit, how that works, having emotional intelligence.
These things are not common.
In our world today.
And without that, the emotions that are, again, based on, you know, subconscious-driven, subconsciously-driven traumas and stressors, right?
The subconscious is driving the show rather than the conscious because we're in overwhelm and we are...
Our tempers are short, right?
And we get triggered so easily, and it leads to these disconnections, and people just don't know how to get along, really.
We're lacking those skills.
Well, this is fascinating, and you'll laugh, and I say this kind of half-jokingly, but I almost decided that the correct posture for meeting just...
Random new people, like at a trade show event, is to first assume they're all mentally insane, and then observe for them to prove that they're not.
Like, society has become so crazy right now.
And what I look for is I look to the soul, and I look to that connection.
In internal family systems, which is a great model that's becoming more popular, they talk about self-energy.
And it is this connection that we have, really, to the divine.
It allows us to be a witness to our own mind.
It is that that is connected to the heart, and it's based in compassion, curiosity, a sense of connection, a connection to our environment, a connection to nature, a connection to each other.
It's a place where we can be calm in an open state, and that is where we need to meet each other, is knowing that we each have that place.
And that is the true nature.
And that these behaviors, this insanity, is the result of the disconnection from ourself and the conditions in our world that is creating trauma and stress and overwhelm and putting us all really in different levels of traumatized states.
Wow.
That's really powerful.
I really appreciate your analysis and your experience on this.
Thank you.
You want to give us your website again?
I forgot the name of it.
Alivethrive.life, which is really more of a freedom, truth-based website.
I'm involved in a podcast called Dissolving the Divide and some other things where we're really looking at solutions to these divides among people.
And then I also have a new women's support group called Reviving Sophia.
Women's Circle, which is about supporting women through the difficulties of relationship and how many of us have a history of dysfunctional relationship dynamics and disconnects and traumatization in relationships.
And so it's a place for women to come together and start to develop trust with each other, which has also been really challenged in our world of women being able to trust each other and then learning how to navigate all the complexities of all our relationships in our lives.
Well, the majority of our audience are women, by the way.
For whatever reason, more women tend to be interested in health and nutrition and the things I tend to talk about.
Some men, but predominantly more women.
I think women are really biologically attuned to relationship, right?
You know, I mean, the mother's body physically creates, you know, a baby and nurses them through her body.
And there's a sense of, you know, there's just something there, I think, that women more intuitively and naturally understand the value.
Oh, clearly.
There's also that consciousness connection between mother and child that modern science can't explain.
All kinds of amazing miracles in all of it.
Thank you so much.
I greatly appreciate You're taking the time with us here today.
I want to remind people of the main website, healthrevealed.org.
And here's your profile there, Leslie Powers.
And thank you for being here today, and thank you for all that you do.
Oh, thank you so much.
It's a wonderful opportunity.
Appreciate it.
All right, and thank all of you for watching.
What a fascinating conversation.
We need more like this.
I'm Mike Adams, of course, here at brightshown.com.
And we have other guests also as part of this same collaboration.
of experts speaking about decentralization, taking power back, and owning, not just owning, but determining the outcome for your life that fits with your goals, your morals, and your values.
And hopefully those values include personal freedom as well.
But thank you for watching.
I'm Mike Adams here of Brighteon.com.
Take care.
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