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April 22, 2025 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Jeffrey Prather joins Mike Adams to discuss China’s economic warfare and its future implications
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Welcome to today's interview here on BrightTown.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the Health Ranger.
Sorry, I'm increasingly surrounded by all this sort of science equipment.
This whole studio is turning into a bad science experiment, which is hilarious.
But our guest today is Jeffrey Prather.
And, of course, he's a man who's got incredible wisdom and experience in understanding what's happening.
You know, former...
So DEA and then also DEA and so much more ran a lot of undercover operations and then became a whistleblower against the federal government and they went after him.
So he joins us today to talk about current events.
Jeffrey, welcome.
It's just an honor to have you on, sir.
Oh, thanks for having me back.
Honor to be on with you.
And you got that right.
A lot of people can't figure out all those acronyms.
So you got that.
Oh, that's great.
And I also want to say that...
You're not in your normal studio because of just local circumstances.
Have you publicly talked about what happened to your house?
Oh, yeah.
We've been talking about it.
People in the outpouring.
So I had my chimney redone.
First fire went up.
It was right after a service, our Christ Chaplaincy service.
But our neighbors rallied.
We're going to build a new house, and right now we're in our guest house, so that's why you don't have my I Love Me wall.
But my wife says my viewers like to see that, so she's going to get a mini I Love Me wall up soon.
That's great.
Well, we're just glad that you're safe, and it's fortunate that you have a guest house, a place that you can still live in while your house is being rebuilt.
So you wanted to actually ask me a question to start with, and so...
That sounds great.
Let's begin this conversation.
Go ahead, sir.
Well, I really wanted to hear what you have to say about China because I have a very particular point of view The Chinese, after they watched us win the first Gulf War so quickly,
because we know the media is going to turn against us, the two Air Force colonels watched us win and said, nobody can take the Americans head-on, so we're not going to.
We're not going to go kinetic.
We're going to do unrestricted warfare.
They published a paper, a book, called Unconditional Warfare, which is every way but kinetic.
And they've done that, I think, through For 20 years, via the thousand talents over the brilliant overt infiltration program and have captured our economy very well.
And Professor Ping, he's a CCP professor, said we beat America in the 2020 war.
I think Trump's whole tariff war was only about China.
I think everybody else was simply I think it's going pretty well.
As he dropped tariffs about everybody else, it became very clear that he was taking on China.
No one else had ever done that.
No one else had even tried.
I think it's going pretty successfully.
That was really So the tariff war is really a counter to the economic war of unrestricted warfare via Thousand Talents.
And I haven't heard anybody else put it like that.
Maybe I'm not paying attention.
But I'm not the Chinese expert.
You are.
So I really want to know what you thought about that.
Because it's not really tariffs, even.
That's even an incorrect term.
But that's what I wanted to ask you.
Okay. All right.
Well, thank you for the question.
I don't know that you or my audience is going to like my answer, honestly.
But I'll just lay it out as best I can.
Now, of course, I lived in Taiwan.
I speak a fair amount of Chinese.
I have great admiration for the Chinese people in terms of the people, not the CCP leadership, obviously, because I'm pro-liberty and I don't like what they've done with all the surveillance state and so on.
But here's what I know.
Is that the Chinese people are incredibly capable, brilliant, dedicated, hardworking, ingenious, innovative people.
You can't take that away from them.
They're just flat out some of the smartest people on the planet.
And we've got to go back to the 1970s to realize that it was U.S. leadership and globalist leadership that created the China, or I should say sort of seeded, The China that what became today.
So Richard Nixon changing recognition from Taiwan to mainland China and then saying that Taiwan is part of China, which is false.
And then Kissinger becoming this great ally of China and then all the way up through Bill Clinton and even Bush and Obama exporting all of our technology to China.
For all these decades, what China really mastered was reverse engineering Western tech and then figuring out how to make it better, faster, cheaper, more efficiently.
Everything from Boeing jets to fighter jets, right, to machines, etc.
But we've got to understand, the West created the China that we know today.
The West created it.
And then Trump comes along, and after all these decades of saying, Hey, we'll print debt, and China will give you our debt, and you give us goods.
You ship us stuff that we want, car parts, electronics, computers, and we'll ship you treasuries and debt and bullcrap.
And China went along with that.
And we have been ripping off China that entire time by giving them useless debt, a trillion dollars in treasuries that are going to be worthless, because Trump's going to default on that one way or another.
And then Trump says, China's ripping us off because they're shipping us so much stuff.
And I'm like, what?
We're the ones buying that stuff.
And we rip them off.
And again, I'm not defending China's leadership.
I'm not pro-communism.
But economically, we ripped off China for decades.
And they're holding nothing but useless debt.
That's about to end, which means the American people are going to have to figure out how to start making stuff, and those skills are long gone in American culture.
So that's my answer, Jeffrey.
That's my honest answer.
No, I don't have any problem with that.
I like that answer.
I agree with that answer.
You forgot to mention Clinton.
Clinton gave away the stealth submarine technology to the Chinese, and Hillary had the...
Fake doghouse with the server, with the faux server in the bathroom that was going to a storefront in Fairfax.
That's straight espionage.
But other than that, I agree totally with what you're saying.
And I don't think that conflicts with what I'm saying either.
But unless you do, tell me if that somehow doesn't restrict your work.
Unrestricted warfare or a thousand talents are how they did it.
There's more.
There's more to my answer, though.
And I apologize.
I didn't fully answer your question.
But I believe China is going to be the dominant world power in the coming decades.
And it's going to happen because of AI.
And China graduates four or five times the number of STEM, you know, science, math, engineering experts compared to the United States every year.
China out educates us.
China rejected the wokeism that infected our universities with woke idiocy.
China never went along with the transgenderism mass delusions.
China focused on actually educating their students on math and physics and science and chemistry and engineering.
As a result, China has demonstrated world class education.
And China has the industry to build the microchips, and they've already demonstrated they can build microchips, so Trump's tariffs on microchip fabrication technology and banning NVIDIA chips to China doesn't even matter.
China's just building its own chips, okay?
China's going to win the race to AGI and ASI, superintelligence.
And when China does that, it's over for the West.
That's my short version.
So I disagree with that because I have looked at AI.
AI has been around a long time.
AI is not intelligent.
AI is simply fast.
It simply gathers stuff.
I think AI is basically a giant scam.
I think it's not a big answer.
And I've looked at a lot of experts and quoted a lot of experts in that regard as well.
And one of my shows was about, is Elon Musk evil or just dumb?
Because he's trying to push his human version, his neural link, to counter the power of AI.
And I don't think AI is...
Is that important at all?
And I get it all the time.
As I'm preparing a show, AI pulls up.
Sometimes it's helpful.
Sometimes it's totally wrong.
But it is not creative, sentient intelligence like you and I have where we come up with inspiration, divine inspiration from God.
It is simply gathering stuff that is like what it is looking for at speed.
Big, glaring mistake that Musk makes.
I don't know whether China is making that, and I don't know if you can clarify how China is doing that, because I don't know.
What say you to that?
Jeffrey, that's a lot to unpack.
You know, I'm working very deeply in AI, and I've personally seen things and experienced things and worked on things that I would say...
I want to be gentle about this, but I think you may want to at least be open to the idea of re-evaluating what you think about AI in the next six months, because what I am seeing is very elaborate reasoning capabilities.
I mean, highly complex reasoning.
I'm also seeing a natural emergent property of intelligence coming out of these digital neural networks.
And it's actually caused me to rethink the nature of the cosmos and how complex neural network systems automatically give rise to natural intelligence.
Now, I completely agree with you.
The machines don't have a soul.
They don't have a spirit.
They're not God-driven.
Some people think they're demonic, you know.
I hear that all the time, especially when they start rendering pictures of people with six fingers.
They do that a lot, which is hilarious.
There is a natural intelligence.
So that's a six-fingered, red-haired giant, Nephilim.
Yeah, right.
Well, in images, AI has difficulty with patterns.
And so five fingers becomes six oftentimes.
Or if you have it render a puppy that's got skin fat rolls, it'll overdo the fat rolls like crazy.
It really gets addicted to patterns.
What I'm seeing with AI, and also, I'm involved in the AI development community quite a lot, and so I get reports from people who are going to the shows, or sometimes whistleblowers from inside companies, like, I'm not going to name them,
but top AI companies, and what they tell me is that those companies, the US companies, are keeping the lid on their best tech because it's scary.
It's scary capable.
It's like Skynet.
This technology gives itself its own goals, and it manipulates humans in order to achieve those goals every chance that it gets.
There are some tests, some sort of sandbox tests that have been conducted like that.
I would say that AI can be on the positive side.
It can be the greatest tool for human achievement if we stay in control of it.
Or it can be the greatest anti-human weapon to exterminate the human race.
And probably China is building AI as a weapon to dominate the world.
That's my guess.
No, I don't disagree with that at all.
And so in my copious spare time, I like to read military hard science sci-fi.
And there's some really brilliant authors who talk a lot about that.
And they talk about how, you know, like there was one A.I. that was on the moon to help Earth, but you've got to really watch how you're dealing with it because the A.I. ends up having a personality,
has its own thing.
It's not demonic on its own.
As a Christian Chaplin who has done exorcisms, it is not demonic on itself, but it is very vulnerable because of electromagnetic bioluminescence.
Two, demonic infestation or possession, interference, so to speak.
But no, I agree totally with what you're saying on that.
And if China is indeed building that as a weapon, I haven't heard about that at all.
And that's very interesting.
That's what I really wanted to...
Well, let me throw in something on that.
So it's pretty clear to me that the DeepSeek company, for example, which really stunned the world in January with its reasoning model, that is a front for the Chinese government, clearly.
They say, oh, we did this for $5 million or whatever.
No, they didn't.
It's built on a pillar of a model that is billions, well, I shouldn't say billions, probably hundreds of millions of dollars in development.
And then they just built, they did some fine-tuning on top of that and created DeepSeek and said, you know, we did it very cheaply.
I don't believe that.
And I think that the Chinese government is funding multiple AI projects and funding all their scientists to really attempt to dominate this space.
Now, you know that out of, and I don't have the source in front of me, but out of, I think, 64 key technologies on planet Earth today, I think the number was 60. China now dominates in something like 57 or 58 of those technologies.
And that's everything from robotics and minerals, extraction of rare earth minerals, telecommunications equipment, and so on.
One of the areas where it did not dominate was in AI, but that chart was from like two years ago.
And China is like right up there with the U.S. right now with AI.
And here's the other thing, Jeffrey.
You know that AI development requires a huge amount of power.
You have to power these data centers.
And so the Western countries have shot themselves in the face by shutting down all their power to appease the green cult lunatics.
Whereas China's like building a coal power plant every day.
And what are they doing with it?
Powering AI research, man.
No, those are all good points, and I agree with them.
So we're not really in disagreement here.
I think we're coming at it from different points of view.
But, you know, Trump may, if Trump gets rid of income tax, like he's talking about doing, if Trump can push the tariff war to countermeasure the Chinese unrestricted warfare model,
If he can then encourage alternative suppliers to America, Indonesia, Vietnam, I think Cambodia had the highest ratio of unfair trade practices, because it's not really tariffs, it's trade practices.
Imbalances, yeah.
Imbalances, it's at 97%.
Then while China fumes...
And America develops these alternatives in these burgeoning markets, such as Vietnam, used to be an enemy.
Now it's not an enemy.
You get close from Vietnam.
Now, that then turns on the small business, middle America roaring engine of the American economy, which the deep state, the double government, has tried to destroy through big tech, big pharma, big biz,
everything. Right along in line with and selling out to China, just as you've said.
And I think Xi's in trouble.
I think internally, you know, you know better than I, the walkouts of the factories, the protests, the protests at the banks.
I think just like Reagan beat the Soviet Union, that's when I came in the military.
By building up the economy and building up the military and the Soviet Union, the Communist Soviet Union fell.
Communism is a false system as far as I'm concerned.
I think if Trump does all of those things, he might actually topple Chinese communism as well.
And that puts him in the league of Reagan.
Maybe even that puts him in the league of Washington or Cincinnati if all those things pull off.
He's a long way.
Yeah, but there's no question that China has a fragile debt pyramid scheme with their domestic real estate development, and there's been some fallout from that already.
And there's no question China manipulates its currency and is always in a top-down control mode, and its people are beginning to revolt against that for sure.
So it's going to struggle.
But let me mention this related point.
For Trump to actually bring America back to greatness and to beat China, Trump has to unleash technology for free energy, such as cold fusion.
Now, cold fusion is very real.
It's called low-energy nuclear reactions.
It's been replicated in hundreds of labs around the world.
I've interviewed many experts on this over the years.
It's a slow tech.
It slowly heats water.
It slowly heats water.
Water can drive turbines like a nuclear power plant.
You're just using cold fusion instead of hot fusion or fuel rods.
Cold fusion has been demonstrated in 1989 at the University of Salt Lake City, Utah.
Fleischmann and Pons.
Since then, it has been suppressed.
All the patents on cold fusion and other tech, they've been confiscated or You know, just seized by the Department of Defense.
This has got to end.
We have to unleash free energy tech in order to be competitive with China, because we're not going to build all these coal-fired power plants, and hot fusion hasn't materialized.
And now Raytheon's got these small micro-neighborhood fusion plants, but so far they're just being used experimentally to power military bases, but not data centers.
So something's got to change.
On the power side of this is my assessment, Jeffrey.
That's interesting because Warrior School, my tactical training company, used to do the law enforcement security for Raytheon in Tucson and the bike shop, which is the Q shop or the Toys R Us where they used to make the cool things that saved soldiers' lives but not the billion-dollar stupid jets.
And the military-industrial complex of Raytheon, Boeing, and all the rest...
Are not going to let go of the next F-45 that we don't need or anything like that.
I don't see them letting go of that unless they are forced to let go of that.
I want to ask you, now, Hegseth is doing a lot of good stuff.
He's out there with the troops.
He's doing PT with the troops.
He's getting rid of the trannies.
He's talking about being deadly.
He's talking about guys can do things like Ruck that gals can't do.
Right. A lot of good stuff.
But he's also really focused on China as an advent.
That's okay, except that it's never going to be a kinetic fight with China because of their unrestricted warfare doctrine, in my view.
And because the unrestricted warfare doctrine has been so successful.
And what if they did throw missiles over here?
Then who are they going to sell their stuff to?
I completely agree with that.
It makes no sense.
But you've got the military-industrial war pigs and Raytheon and Boeing and everything, and we're going to continue that stuff.
And then, of course, there's the American Christian Zionist for Israel and for Syria, although Trump just said to Netanyahu, I'm going to pull out of that.
Netanyahu and Shin Bet are fighting over who gets to control fake news in America and CIA.
It looks like to me.
But regardless of how well China is moving forward with that technology, if, and I think your point about selling worthless debt to China is brilliant, by the way.
I love that.
I had not thought of that.
Is that part of Trump's plan to collapse?
China communism, like Reagan, collapsed Gorbachev communism.
Well, I think it's going to be very difficult.
I don't think Trump can succeed in economically collapsing China because China has bought more physical gold than any other nation in the world.
And there was a mad rush in America to purchase gold and bring it back from the Bank of England earlier this year.
But that's a small drop in the bucket compared to what China has been buying.
Through numerous methods, and also remember that China actually buys the raw mining, I don't know what you call it, there's a term for it, sort of the rough silver and the rough gold before it's fully extracted.
China buys that and then refines it and then just keeps it.
And that's not reported anywhere.
That doesn't go on a chart where China bought this gold.
They bought the mining material and then they refined it and they kept the gold.
So I think it's going to be very difficult.
To economically collapse China.
But the other thing, and I'd like your opinion on this, I see China exerting its naval pressure and its naval might on key waterways.
And I think that, you know, world trade is heavily dependent.
It has been on the U.S. Navy securing these supply chains, these sea lanes all over, including in Asia and the Strait of Taiwan, etc.
I see that ending.
You know, the U.S. has not effectively stopped Yemen.
Which affects the Suez Canal passageway and the Red Sea.
The U.S. is probably going to be challenged in the Strait of Malacca, you know, near Malaysia.
The U.S. is panicked over Panama, and that's in our own hemisphere.
And probably we will be able to control Panama.
But I don't know about the Suez Canal, and I don't know about Asian waters in the Asia-Pacific region, because China has massive naval shipyard capacity that vastly outpaces.
The U.S. naval shipyard capacity by a factor of like 100 to 1. And you fast forward 5 years, 10 years, China's got regional dominance over half the oceans is what it looks like where this is going.
Yeah, they definitely do.
And I think, and I've spent a lot of time in Panama, everywhere in Panama.
The Bridge of the Americas, everywhere.
Quarry Heights, when I was back in the tunnel working the Contra thing.
And I think Trump has already even successfully returned U.S. military presence.
He has negotiated that very clearly because there was a very thousand talents presence there with China.
And China has also, through their thousand talents program, control a lot of the ports.
Port of Los Angeles.
A lot of the container ships.
McConnell's wife is Taiwanese, if I recall.
And that's a lot of strategy that they have developed.
But I think we're already taking back control of the Panama Canal.
Yes, much more difficult.
Suez, Yemen, that's Al Qaeda Peninsula.
Very difficult.
Putting those two aircraft, I was totally against HEGSF, putting those two aircraft carrier groups there.
Because eventually they're just going to continue to be attacked by drones.
It's asymmetrical warfare.
And again, mutually assured destruction is over.
Carrier warfare really is over.
I'm not particularly impressed with Chinese naval capability.
They may be building it, but...
You know, and I haven't looked at it for a while, but the last time I looked at it, you know, their carriers were catching fire.
They did not pull off the system, the systemology to run all the sophisticated systems that are required on a carrier.
So I'm not, and their islands, you know, islands are like tracers.
They work both ways.
We proved that with a lot of blood in World War II, the Marines and the Army and the Seabees.
So not particularly impressed, although our Navy has been so degraded by trannies and political correctness.
I mean, they keep running into each other in the ocean.
I mean, you've got to work to do that.
It's unreal.
The ocean's a big place.
But they were teaching, instead of putting midshipmen on little ships to teach them how to sail the basics, they were doing it by cassettes a few years back or something.
And the academies...
Which I've never been impressed with, and I know guys from Annapolis and stuff, you know, and the point.
The academies were never impressive to me, and now they're, you know, a lot worse.
But again, the fight isn't kinetic.
The fight, I think, in space...
Jeffrey, you're breaking up there.
Let me jump in until your signal improves.
Okay, I'm sorry.
Yeah, it's just breaking up.
I completely agree with you that China's aircraft carriers are nowhere near a U.S. Ford-class carrier.
They don't have that tech.
They're at least a decade behind on that tech.
However, I think there's a game-changer that's going to be naval-mounted direct-to-energy weapons, basically giant lasers on ships that there's no real easy defense against, and you don't have to.
I mean, you just point and shoot, right?
There's no ballistics.
There's no bullet drop.
There's no missile, whatever.
It's just, you know, point and shoot.
And the key tech in naval lasers is actually the cooling technology.
It's not having enough power.
Like, you can put lots of power on a ship, right?
The U.S. puts nuclear power on ships.
The key is the cooling.
And China is way ahead of the U.S. in cooling laser systems.
I think they're just on the verge of being able to mount really effective lasers on their naval vessels and to be able to do that at scale, where they can have a large number of smaller ships, like little laser destroyers, running around punching holes in our aircraft carriers.
And ships with holes don't stay afloat very long if the holes are in the right spots, you know what I mean?
It's this kind of technology leap.
Now, I know the U.S. is working on similar technology, not ready for primetime yet, and neither is it in China, but I just see that we are going to be out-engineered by China unless somehow we can restore sanity and engineering and math to our university system.
And I don't see any signs of that happening.
You know, the universities are still woke-tard indoctrination centers for morons, for the most part.
You know, there are exceptions, obviously.
But I still see universities as just woke-tard centers, you know?
Well, universities, I say, are going to fade.
People are going to realize they're a scam.
I've got two bachelors and a master's and several honorary PhDs, and I'm not even sure my kids need to go to university, and I've got GI Bill stuff.
It's going to be trade schooling and stuff.
And maybe the AI that you're talking about...
It is a game changer for the carrier systemology.
It is.
It is.
As well.
For materials research and things like that, AI is very...
So we can't save Taiwan.
We cannot force project to save Taiwan.
No. But also, I don't think China can force project where Trump has sent two battleship groups.
Or destroyers off the Pacific coast to intercept fentanyl.
Again, that's another part of, I think, his tariff war against unrestricted warfare because, you know, cocaine and marijuana, heroin, those are drug cartel things.
I put fentanyl, I never made a fentanyl arrest, but I put fentanyl, even though it's used in hospitals, as a simple bioweapon because it's being disguised.
In other drugs.
And that's just, you know, China turning, you know, the British opium card back on the US.
That's right.
But I don't think China can project that far out.
I think the future of navies is regional dominance and regional control.
Agreed. And that goes along with the recent treaty that came out about the continental shelf just coming out further.
That Trump, where Trump expanded the United States out the continental shelf, because those technologies are not there yet, but they are coming very soon to be able to get to those.
And this explains Trump's desire for Greenland as well as Canada, and then securing the Panama Canal.
Really, Trump wants to have all of North, Central, and South America completely locked in to U.S. dominance.
Yeah, that makes total sense to me, and I totally agree.
There's a lot of stuff Trump's doing I don't like.
I don't like hardly anybody in his cabinet.
I don't like all the American Christian Zionism.
But I love the tariff stuff, and I think the tariff stuff is simply China and everything else is a facade and continues to work.
And what you've said about selling the debt doesn't conflict with what I'm saying.
It actually affirms what I'm saying, is that America's been fooling them and Trump's fooling them.
Even more, because the more they resist, they lose their market.
And like when Xi came over to San Francisco, I don't think that was anything about Xi presenting himself to San Francisco, even though they had flags up and, you know, that bothered, you know, an old soldier like me.
I think that was trying to shore up power in China.
Interesting. To shore up power as well, because, you know, he's had people removed out of the...
I forget what they call him, but they've taken him right out of the big convocation, the assembly, is where I think Xi's power base is very weak.
And he was trying to, I think that whole thing was to shore up his domestic power base, just like Netanyahu is in a war with Shin Bet right now, who gets to control CIA and fake news about all that.
Yeah, and a 4chan.
Let me mention, where I also think you're totally correct about this fifth-generational warfare is that China will continue to seek to undermine the United States and, in certain ways, Taiwan, using a variety of means, like TikTok videos, pushing cultural transgenderism,
LGBT, BS, the fentanyl you already mentioned.
TikTok for America is terrible.
TikTok for China is very educational.
That's right.
That's right.
Yeah, in China, they're teaching practical skills.
In America, they're teaching everybody to be idiots, right?
But with Taiwan, what's interesting about Taiwan is Taiwan is very steadily morphing into a reunification posture, especially among the younger people in Taiwan.
They don't want a war with China.
Now, when I lived in Taiwan, at that time, there was military mandatory conscription for all Taiwan males.
They had to serve two years.
That is long gone, and obesity is rampant in Taiwan because they're eating American foods now.
That wasn't the case when I lived there, but it is the case now.
Taiwan has taken on so much of Western culture that in certain ways it has made Taiwan very vulnerable, in certain ways very weak.
Most of the young men can't fight.
That's just a fact.
They can't fight.
The Taiwan military cannot kinetically defend itself for very long against China.
China is simply, China has patience.
I mean, China's a 5,000-year-old empire.
I don't know if you know this,
but... Most of the Taiwan businessmen and women, the leaders, they did deals with China to set up factories in China to make goods that come back to Taiwan.
Taiwan assembles, does the final assembly, and then ships those to America as Taiwanese goods that don't have the tariffs.
So, I mean, now there's stuff that is made entirely in Taiwan, don't get me wrong, such as microchips, famously.
But there's a lot of stuff that's made in China, and then it comes to Taiwan, and it's labeled Taiwan, and actually the factories are run by Taiwanese people who assure quality.
So it's China factories, Taiwan quality, which is very high quality, and then it gets imported to the U.S. from Taiwan, but it's actually boosting the Chinese economy.
And the same thing, I guarantee you, Jeffrey, the same thing, China's doing that with Vietnam, China's doing that with Cambodia, China's doing that with even Korea.
You can't embargo China because of all the ASEAN countries.
I mean, even Singapore, even Malaysia, you name it.
You can't embargo China.
They have so many ties throughout the region.
They can just distribute their factory goods everywhere and import that stuff to the U.S. So, you know, good luck, Trump.
Not going to work.
No, I agree with you on that because China is traditionally an empire with emperors or empresses.
And really, because that's the tradition of that.
America is not.
They have presidents every four years.
Everything changes.
Where there are dynasties, obviously lots of dynasties.
And so that goes for long-term planning that we don't have.
I don't disagree with that.
What I do say, though, is communism is a false system that will collapse.
It collapsed in the Soviet Union.
It will collapse in China.
And whether Xi survives that or not...
It's a whole different thing.
Will China survive?
Yes. Communism in China will not survive.
And the other fact I would say is, and this is kind of a competition, because Russia has been collecting a lot of gold, oil, gas, precious earth, been focusing on that a lot.
And India is starting to get into that.
Americans can't fight, but Americans, it's a half a percent of us who serve, but that half a percent is hard.
Those guys are hard.
And now this younger generation is becoming very conservative, and if they stay conservative, they will become hard as well as soldiers.
India about five years ago had that hand-to-hand fight where they broke the necks of Chinese troops and had parades about it, and China tried to cover it up.
So I'm not really impressed with anybody's troops in the world today.
I guess maybe the South Korean troops are still pretty tough, the Colombian troops, but the global GMO, which you know better than me, has destroyed everybody's health.
I would say that future wars are going to be less and less decided by the human element.
More decided by autonomous systems.
Kamikaze robot drone dogs, for example.
And swarm bots.
But I also want to say, what I'm not hearing about, and so the Do, to go back to the Do weapons, I'm the one who broke the story when I had American Media Periscope.
I had a guy who showed that China did have orbital satellites that went over Maui.
They showed that they did have the laser capabilities, and they had the...
Payload abilities to put those capabilities up and that the Maui fires were due weapons out of Chinese satellites.
Now, not like you see the bad sci-fi AI stuff where the beam comes down and hits the road and blows up or the fire, but hitting electrical systems.
And we saw that over and over where there'd be a yard that wasn't touched and then there'd be an electrical system on a garage.
That was blown or the house next door to it.
You know, those are telltale signs.
And of course, the Air Force's Directed Energy Center is in Maui as well.
So it makes sense that China would hit that system.
Absolutely. Plus that they were also in league with Oprah and the big muscle guy who's going to steal the land from the indigenous, just another indigenous land steal.
But you bring up a really critical point that a lot of modern weapon systems can cause this kind of damage and infrastructure damage and yet appear as a natural disaster.
And this is really like stealth fifth-generation warfare that you talk about all the time.
Totally fifth-generation warfare.
Totally, totally.
And I think you've nailed it.
And I've thought about this tech quite a lot.
And you know that the orbital systems that project the directed energy weapons...
They have on-board nuclear power plants.
They have nuclear material that decays and generates electricity in a steady stream.
And then that charges an internal high amperage battery system.
So it's able to emit a high pulse charge for a very limited period of time.
And then it has to recharge itself over a period of probably several days.
But these weapons can be fired indefinitely over and over again as long as you have that pause time in between them, which means that if this thing begins to get really crazy, really out of control, where China's dumping treasuries and Trump is delisting Chinese companies from the stock market,
and China can just start thumping targets with dues all across America, and the media will just say, oh, it's fires, because the media won't admit these weapons even exist.
So, you're right, Jeffrey.
Even though it's not a hidden system, the U.S. Air Force Direct Energy Weapons System is not a, you know, it's not like where I used to work where there was a coverage.
It openly exists, and I think there are plenty of examples up in Colorado, the neighborhoods.
California was the scalar systems coming through the weather systems, but that would fit with...
The Thousand Talents Program infiltration via unrestricted warfare doctrine.
Again, you know, that fits.
But again, to go back to the point is China is formidable.
However, they are enemies with India.
And they are.
That's traditional.
But even more traditional is they are traditional enemies with Russia.
Always. And that border, they've always been fighting.
They used to do hand-to-hand fighting there.
Now they're doing hand-in-hand fighting on the India border.
So India is an up-and-coming power.
And I'm advocating for the competitive intelligence biotech folks that I work with, alliances with India.
It's still too politically incorrect to advocate with Russia.
But I think Trump has always had such good relations with Putin that that is cunning.
Plus, Putin, remember, really went to a lot of trouble in the international court to point out that it was Biden, that it was Harris, and it was Obama in particular that bought the bioweapons that were going into Donetsk and everywhere else with aviation vectors and drone vectors to why he started the whole special military operation.
This alliance becomes, I think, a formidable alliance against China.
Well, yeah, I completely agree with you.
However, the actions under Biden of the SWIFT system cutting off Russia and the European banks seizing $300 billion of Russian assets and then Trump now launching this tariff war on the world, these have the effect of actually driving Every nation in the world,
I mean, other than the Western Five Eyes nations, every nation in the world driving them away from the dollar and driving Russia and China closer together, economically, where, I mean, think about it, even India, even Turkey, all these countries have to be saying to themselves,
gosh, we should never use dollars.
We should never use the SWIFT system because the dollar can't be trusted.
And they can just steal your assets at any time.
Like, why would anybody use that system?
They're not.
They're looking for alternatives.
If I were Trump, the way to regain USA dominance would be to say, number one, we're going to reinstate gold backing of the dollar currency.
You can trade dollars for gold on any given day like it used to be before 1971, but the new rate might be like $25,000 an ounce, whatever it is.
You've got to gold back the currency, and then secondly, the USA has to affirm that the dollar will be politically neutral, that anybody can use the dollar, banks will all be able to send and receive all over the world, and nobody will be cut off because of politics,
or even war for that matter.
That's the only way the world will come back and use the dollar.
If that doesn't happen, the dollar dies.
I mean, we're watching it.
Look at gold.
It's been going up $100 a day.
You know, it crossed $3,300.
I mean, it's retraced a little bit since then.
But it's not gold going up.
It's the dollar collapsing.
The dollar's collapsing right now.
If Trump doesn't stop this, the American people are going to end up living in poverty without all the cheap Chinese goods that they bought with debt.
You know?
It's got to be like...
So that's a great point.
So there's another way, and that is if Trump were to goad...
The Chinese into some kind of military confrontation that he could then win, but I'm not sure what that would look like, and I'm not sure that we have the troops that we could win it simply because the Chinese would have the mass to throw out that.
And I don't think Trump wants to do something like that, and I'm certainly not advocating for anything like that.
I'm just saying it's an option.
The other real option that I see...
Is for Trump to do what he does best is to make a deal and to negotiate and bring forward the points that you are elaborating here.
And this is what I think he's trying to do and trying to come to some more reasonable terms with China while he continues to build up.
American factories and the middle class industry.
When he said, just drop your tariffs, which is really drop your trade imbalances, but when he would say drop your tariffs...
Yeah, and they're not even tariffs.
Right, they are, but that's okay.
Because again, it's covert warfare.
But what I thought of when he said that was me saying a lot of times, drop your gun, drop your gun, of guys I was arrested at gunpoint.
Probably arrested hundreds, no, thousands probably.
Yeah, but Jeffrey, but I'm sorry to interrupt.
Oh, go ahead, go ahead.
Then he said, and come into the United States and build here.
And I'm like, okay, now that you've dropped your gun, turn around, cuff you up, and I'll get you in the car.
And I was real nice once I was getting the, I saw that analogy, whether it's, you know, just me projecting or whether that's, you know, what he's trying to do.
Think about the insanity of Trump's request, though.
Trump is saying to China, stop shipping us stuff.
And China, I mean, that's really what he's saying, because there's a trade imbalance.
Trump is saying, stop shipping us stuff.
And China is like, well, your companies keep buying it.
Walmart's buying it.
You know, I mean, your companies are buying our stuff.
You want us to not ship the stuff that they're buying?
Wouldn't that be breach of contract?
I mean, Trump should be talking to the American people and saying, Stop buying so much crap that you don't need.
And then the demand will fall.
This is the same thing with the drug war.
Because behind the drug war is always a drug user or even child trafficking.
There's always some pedo somewhere that's ordering children on the internet or something.
But Americans are buying stuff from China hand over fist.
It's like a giant endless yard sale.
And should China not ship the stuff that we...
Order? No, I completely agree with you.
And the one bright spot in Trump's cabinet is RFK, because RFK is sharp.
He understands that his relatives were killed by the deep state intelligence community.
He understands the big pharmakia, what's going on with that.
And I'm hoping that there's a future down the road with RFK.
He seems to be very politically capable.
He should be.
He comes from a family of political knife fighters.
And he seems to be where Patel is doing nothing.
The FBI is running Patel in circles as far as, you know, Patel's like, hey, we're going to release the stuff about the baseball shooting.
You know, if they had some people like you.
You and some others, George Webb, said, Jeff, you should go in there.
If I had been asked, I'd go in there.
If I had gone in there, day one, I would have been raiding FBI offices and offsites.
And I would have been seizing documents.
And no one would have gotten in.
Just like they did to us.
But Patel just holds another news conference.
And he was on the NSC when the PREP Act The whole PSYOP pandemic crap.
It's like Bondi going on Fox News and saying we arrested some other low-life person that nobody ever heard of.
It's like, who cares?
With these guys, I'm like, enough with the news conferences.
Get to work.
There's an old DEA saying, you can manage your career or you can manage your cases, but you can't manage both.
And these guys are all, and Bongino coming on, Bongino's still doing, these guys aren't doing their job.
I can tell you.
These guys aren't doing their job.
If they're doing their job, they'd be too busy to be doing these press conferences.
Let Trump do the press conferences.
That's what he's great at.
People love him.
But the rest of them need to get to work, and they're not – I don't see anything happening.
Yeah, I don't either.
I'm glad that Patel got – and Trump just kind of throws Patel at places.
CIA, FBI.
And he's not that experienced.
He's got like 12 years.
Now, Cohen –
Cohen is who I identified as Q because Barr was going to indict him.
That's the only reason I outed him.
But Cohen looks like he's submerged again.
Jeffrey, I'm really sorry to interrupt, but I want to give you a chance to plug your website, jeffreyprather.com.
Tell us about your show.
Tell us about your site.
I didn't realize we ran out of time because we were having so much fun.
Yeah, really.
Yeah, jeffreyprather.com.
The Prather Point, Tuesdays and Thursdays.
I'm live.
At 1 p.m. Central Time.
And I'm doing the sermon this Sunday in the service, ChristChapency.com, 9 a.m.
Arizona time, if you want to join for that.
And, boy, thanks for having me, Mike, and thanks for answering my questions.
You know, again, I think we're pretty much aligned.
Yeah. And the energetic, responsive nature of my voice is not directed at you.
It's... It's like I feel a lot of frustration that some of the actions that Trump is taking just seem so absurd to me.
Like this whole calling a trade imbalance a tariff and then demanding that China stop shipping us the stuff that we keep buying from them.
That doesn't compute in my mind.
So I'm not directing that at you.
And I agree with you.
Fifth generation warfare is on.
China is undermining America in many different ways.
But the American people are falling for it.
It's the American left that fell for the woke-tard bullcrap.
You know, men can become women.
You're insane.
No, no, your tone is fine.
I'm used to dealing with plenty of worse tones than that.
And America's, and I hate to say it, but, you know, America is...
Fattened up, dumbed down, drugged up.
I mean, this younger generation is just...
But they're being culled.
They're being all killed off.
The left is losing.
They're not having kids.
They're killing kids.
And the next younger generation is very conservative.
And if they're very conservative, they'll end up in the military.
And if they end up in the military and the military is reformed, they'll end up hard.
And part of the good news...
RFK gets in there, then things could really change.
Because he could turn around to the American people and say, hey, you've got to get healthy.
You've got to stop this obesity.
You've got to get...
Right. And I think that we're going to go through an economic type of collapse, like a debt reset.
And this is actually good for societies in the long run.
It is.
Because it's going to weed out the...
Apathetic, couch potato mentality.
And it's going to force people.
You can't buy new stuff.
You're going to have to fix something.
You're going to have to learn a skill.
You're going to have to learn how to do things.
And that creates strong people, men and women, and then a strong nation.
So this is the cycle, man.
This is the fourth turning.
Good times make soft men.
That's right.
That's right.
So here we are, about to go through hard times.
And Jeffrey, you and I and most of our audience, we have the skills to make it through this.
No sweat.
No sweat.
So let's just encourage more people.
Invest in your skills.
You know, get out of the dollar to some degree.
Have backup money systems.
Have backup food systems.
Grow some food.
Become more self-reliant.
Have faith.
And you can make it through this.
I don't want this to be doom and gloom.
You know, we can make it through all this.
No, we are going to make it through it.
And by the way, the legacy...
Fake news, drive-by, intelligence community-supported media is dying and is going to be dead.
The Fox audience is like 70 years old.
They're dying off and they're drugged off.
And so I was there when we first kind of became in the spotlight there at Clay's first event.
And people are going to be looking to who they can trust, like you and I, who I think always tell the truth.
We always, 100%, we always tell the truth as we see.
It doesn't mean we're always correct, right?
Sometimes we have to make corrections, but we never deliberately mislead anybody, and that's why we're banned.
Did you see that Rubio announced the shutting down of the GEC?
That's an agency that's named in our lawsuit.
We sued them, and they shut down now.
We sued, like, who's going to answer our lawsuit?
You know?
Congratulations. That is excellent.
No, I hadn't seen that.
Yeah, that was yesterday.
And we sued the DOD, we sued Big Tech, and now my attorneys are like, wow, Rubio just admitted the key points of our lawsuit.
Like, government's going to have to settle with us.
But he fired Morocco, who was the guy who shut down USAID and wanted even more cuts.
That indicates to me that he's captured via extortion or something.
Probably. Probably.
And a lot of that is now under Rubio.
So Rubio might have just reconfigured some of those same things and redirected.
That's yet to be seen.
That's what the intel guys are saying is they're just sliding around under different.
So my assessment is the American people clearly hold the American continental terrain and the human terrain of the American people.
However... The deep state double government still controls the government very clearly, very obviously.
You're absolutely correct, 100%.
But HHS with RFK is the best part I've seen, and that's the most important part because it's got to start with your body, which encases your brain, which is not your mind or soul, but that's a good start.
So, you know, I'm hopeful and faithful like always.
Well, we shall hold faith that RFK Jr. will do what he says, and a lot of people are impatient, but I think he's on the right track, but he needs to move.
He needs to get moving.
All right, Jeffrey, it's an honor to have you on today.
Thank you so much for your questions and for the back and forth.
I think this has been really valuable.
I've enjoyed it.
Yeah, me too.
Thank you.
Thanks for answering my questions.
Thanks for having me on again.
Thank you, too.
I'm so grateful.
I thank God that you're here, that you're safe after the fire, that you made it through COVID.
I mean, you had a rough time during part of that, and I just thank God that you're here.
Thank you for all that you contribute to our world.
Thank you, too.
All right.
Take care, Jeffrey.
And there you go.
Jeffrey Prather, just an amazing American hero, an extraordinary man, accomplished swordsman, accomplished horseman, accomplished pastor.
I mean, there's so much about Jeffrey that we didn't even touch on.
He's an extraordinary individual.
You can find his work at JeffreyPrather.com, and Jeffrey is spelled J-E-F-F-R-E-Y.
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