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Welcome to today's episode for our Decentralized TV docuseries.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.com, free speech video platform.
And my co-host for our show, now more than one year running, is Todd Pitner.
Welcome, Todd, to the show today.
This is going to be a fun one, huh?
Oh, this is going to be great.
Returning guests and his new partner in crime.
This is going to be a lot of fun.
I think it'll be very substantive for people who like freedom.
Oh, yeah.
And who like...
The freedom of food.
Right. Yeah, totally.
So let's just bring them in.
We have Jim Gale and Rob Yunkin from foodforestabundance.com.
Welcome, both of you, to the show today.
Thank you, Mike.
Thank you, Todd.
Pleasure to be here again.
I'm actually coming to you from Wonderfield, Florida.
And Winterfield Farms here, where there's a rogue food conference with John Moody and Joel Salatin and a bunch of other incredible freedom lovers sharing the good stuff.
A rogue food conference.
All right, and Rob, a quick introduction for you.
You're the CEO of Food Forest Abundance, correct?
That's correct, and we have Food Forest and Freedom Farm Academies worldwide.
I'm located here in Wilmington, North Carolina, at my own little food forest.
Oh, wow.
Okay, that's awesome.
All right, so gentlemen, what we want to do today, and Todd's got the outline, but the overall emphasis, I just want to remind our audience, is you're going to learn practical things during this interview, things that can help you decentralize your food supply.
And let me mention up front that our food supply is under attack.
They're slaughtering egg-laying chickens left and right.
They're still spraying pesticides in chemtrails.
They're still geoengineering.
Our food supply is under attack.
And if you don't realize that, you know, you're behind the curve.
So this show here today, this episode for this series is going to teach you some practical things that you can do to start growing more of your own food.
So that said, Todd, it's all yours.
Let's go.
Well, as you know, we interviewed Jeff or Jim as our fourth guest almost two years ago, it seems.
I think it is.
Wow. It's crazy.
Wait a minute.
It is almost two years.
I thought it was one year, but no.
No, sir.
Almost two years we've been at this.
And after that interview, I was so inspired.
I hired foodforestabundance.com to install.
My personal food forest.
And, you know, I have captured the entire journey and part of the docu-series with the bonus content.
We're going to do a little behind the scenes.
It's going to be great for those who like that kind of stuff.
I'm also going to visit Galt's Landing this weekend and take a little tour with Jim and be able to share that with everyone.
But it inspired me so much.
That I want to do everything possible to evangelize what Jim and Rob are all about.
And I know you two too, Mike.
Jim. Wait, wait, Todd.
I'm sorry.
Let me interrupt.
Your food forest also survived Hurricane Milton.
It was flooded and it still survived.
And you survived a pretty bad freeze, wasn't it, too?
Well, that's the story.
Two hurricanes, the food forest survived.
The freeze really, really, you know, killed off seven of my fruit trees.
But over the last month, through foodforestabundance.com, I've hit Control-Alt-Delete on those trees.
I have fresh, new, mature trees.
Paid a little extra to be able to do something more mature, and I'm really super excited about them.
But that's all part of the journey, you know?
Nature gives, nature takes back, and, you know.
So I'm happy, and I'll share a little bit of that in the bonus material.
But Jim, I asked for you to send a little bit of outline for this initial interview, and the first thing that you two wrote was, food forests grow freedom, security, and weeds out centralized tyranny.
Music to our ears.
Can you unpack that, please, the two of you?
Yeah, Rob, if you don't mind, I'll give it a start here because I'm kind of the general thinker and Rob is really good at the details.
What I know for certain after the obsession of asking the question, how do we win this war and how do we catalyze a shift in awareness that leads to mass adoption of stewardship?
Stewardship! Simply loving on and working with and collaborating with our natural environment, when we achieve mass adoption of the most logical thing we could ever do, then and only then will we truly be free and we will have abundance everywhere.
Amen. Jim?
Rob? Yeah, and how do we do it is anywhere.
You can grow in a little tiny condo on your deck with a little bit of sunlight or with grow lights inside.
If you have a quarter acre or more, you can sign up for Food Forest, and we'll come and design it with you, do a site visit, and get it professionally installed so that you can start growing your own food and unplug from that nasty, centralized, poison-filled chemical food system, as well as do something good for Mother Earth.
Replenish your soil.
The perennialization that we stress with food forests, you know, everybody thinks of growing food in their backyard, tomato plants, annuals, but perennials actually do wonders for your soil health.
And that microbiome below the surface, we don't see it, but that's part of our mission is millions and billions of those little creepy crawlers doing your work for you.
And as Jim will show you at Galt's on Sunday, Todd.
It really takes very little maintenance, and you get that massive benefit of food every time.
Can I point out, too, that I love what you guys do, which is you offer both a service for people who want it installed for them, but you also offer a lot of educational material for people who want to take on any aspect of that themselves.
And that's what I love about what you do.
It's like you pick how many wheelbarrows you want to move of compost material or whatever, or how many plants you want to buy.
But you also teach people, and this conversation is also largely focused on what people can do themselves if they want to.
Absolutely. You know, it's so easy to grow food.
In fact, I don't grow any food.
Nature does all of the hard work.
What we do, if you've got a closet, you can get some soil, talk to a local.
A local nursery.
Get some soil.
You could put sweet potato starch in that soil with some grow lights and some fans.
It's not ideal because the sun and nature is ideal, but it'll still work, right?
The sun and the water and the light will turn soil into food.
Isn't that magical?
It is.
100%. You know what I love?
Yeah, Todd, go ahead.
You know what I love, gentlemen, is as I've been involved with this and preparing for this interview and preparing for the weekend to meet with you, is the notion of 1 plus 1 plus 1 doesn't equal 3. It equals 111.
I want everybody to know that Jim and Rob, they have five years of content that is ultimately...
In process of being fed into Mike Adams' LLM so that ultimately you're going to be able to query.
So when you talk about being able to do certain DIY projects, that is going to be free to you to be able to query and prompt and get the answers.
And it's going to be all based on permaculture.
Jim, I would love for you to share with us what is permaculture versus gardening?
Permaculture is stewardship.
It's really the same thing.
It's following nature's principles to observe and interact with what works in the natural system and then take feedback and then make changes.
It's really that simple.
Rob? Yeah, it really is.
Permaculture is a lot of perennials and you don't need to disturb that soil.
I come from a little bit of an agricultural background.
There's this constant thinking between gardeners and big farmers that you need to till up your soil and turn it over all the time.
Well, you're destroying that microbiome beneath the surface that's actually going to do a lot of that work for you.
There's a lot of reasons people come up with why not to perennialize and grow a food forest.
But the reasons why are that once you get it established, and you know this Todd firsthand, The biggest payoff is that food sovereignty, and you build it little by little, season by season, with every harvest.
Mike, what are your thoughts?
I'm curious because you have a ranch, and on your ranch, I know that you've planted lots of different Plants, vegetables, fruit trees, etc.
How have you managed it?
Did you have to be a master gardener to pull all of that off, Mike?
Well, no.
I made a lot of mistakes along the way.
I learned it the hard way.
But, you know, it's funny.
Here in Texas, the biggest challenge we have is getting water to the plants.
And so I became a master plumber in irrigation systems.
That's for sure.
Like, we've got plenty of sunlight, you know.
Mother Nature does its work, like Jim said.
But what I found out, and I've been trying to share this information with everybody, is that for irrigation plumbing, I don't know about you guys, but I've gone with PEX lines for everything.
And I have the PEX expansion tool made by Milwaukee.
And I use the PEX expander fittings.
So I don't use any PVC.
I don't use any glue or chemicals in any fittings.
What I do is I have PEX lines that go to faucets, like regular garden hose faucets.
And that way, when I put a fitting together, I can use it in five minutes.
I don't have to wait for glue or anything.
I can put water pressure into it.
And then the other thing that I have learned, that I'll pass along, is that this took some effort, but I sank a well pump into my pond, and that provides the water for the irrigation system.
So I'm actually getting like, Sort of fish poop-infused pond water, which is really rainwater, to all the plants, and it's like night and day.
So if you can avoid using city water and avoid well water if you can.
Well water, as you know, you guys know, it's usually got way too much in the way of minerals.
It's often too alkaline.
You've got to treat it.
But if you can use pond water, You don't have to even really filter it.
You just pump it through the pipes and to the plants.
That's what I do.
So what do you think about that, Jim?
Is that a good solution?
That is the way.
It's so much better for the plants than well water.
And also, a pond is such a multifunctional system.
We put seven species of fish in our pond.
Sunnies, crappies, bass, catfish, mosquito, minnows, fatheads, and shiners.
And we have a whole ecosystem in there.
And then we use the water from the pond to fertigate the food forest on a solar-activated timer with PEX.
And it just happens automatically.
So you push the button once and it's done.
That's great.
You and I came to the same conclusion.
It's like there's no better water than the fish water.
That's it.
Plants love it.
That's it.
I want to insert right now that...
There's probably a lot of people watching who might be thinking this is too big of an idea for them.
And, hey, by the way, I live in an HOA.
Well, I want to let you know that that battle has gone before you.
I battled my HOA for months to get the approval.
But you know what?
I was on the right side of the law and there is a letter that has been created that anybody out there who would like to install a food forest in their backyard They can work with Jim and the team, and they have that letter.
So please don't let an HOA get in the way of you growing food versus poisonous grass.
And the other thing I want to let you know is that there are alternatives if you do not have a pond in your back property, and most of us don't, but you do have a roof.
And so what Jim and team did is they designed into my food for us these water catchment containers.
I have four of them, so I have almost 1,500 gallons of water that is used to water my food force, and I wanted to do that even though I could irrigate it with the city water, but I don't want to spray that crappy water on my food, right? And the last thing I just want to touch on before we unpack is...
Permaculture, the way that I know it now, having installed mine, is it is a design system that every plant is strategically placed next to You do not
have to be a gardener.
You set it.
And you forget it and you allow it to ultimately be food for your body.
But in the meantime, until you get there, I swear, every single day you walk out there and it's food for your soul.
Jim? Oh, God, that's such a beautiful point, Todd.
The food for your soul point cannot be overstated.
I am called all day long to go outside into the food forest and just be with it because it's a living system.
And it invites the birds and the butterflies and the sounds and the smells and the tastes.
It's literally a sentient system of free energy.
And when I say free energy, I mean literally every single fruit tree creates massive amounts of exponential free energy.
Calories and energy that you can even turn into fuels.
It's true.
You know, it's such an incredible asset.
And I was just alerted.
This is really relevant.
I was just alerted right now that gold, as we're recording this, gold just hit an all-time high.
And yet, here it is, 2,988.
And yet, you can't eat gold.
You can't eat your gold.
Now, look, I'm pro-gold.
I'm pro-gold, but I used to live in Taiwan, and I had some of the old-timers there told me a story post-World War II where there was no food available, and it was actually a Japanese occupation of Taiwan at the time, and there was no food available, and people would trade an entire apartment building for one duck to eat.
Whoa. So, yeah, they would trade like their house, which in Taiwan is usually like a concrete, you know, multi-story building.
They would trade a house for a duck.
So think about the real gold is the food forest.
That's real gold.
It's wealth.
It's the foundation of wealth.
All this other stuff, wonderful or not, I own gold and silver.
I love gold and silver as a store of value.
But the ultimate store of value.
Is the food-producing plants and the animals that are all around us that create the foundation of wealth and freedom.
And we have declared that we are free and we do not comply with any government, no taxation, no permissions.
We simply voluntarily steward the land and then we serve our community with our surplus.
Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
And Rob, you know, I want to ask you, because isn't it amazing that in a world where the people always have to pay royalties, Or they have to buy prescription medications, have to pay that crazy inflated prices.
But Mother Nature and God gives it to us for free.
All we have to do is set it up to harness that.
And it's a free gift from the cosmos.
Yeah, and Mother Earth is standing by to assist.
If I can, can I share my screen and show you guys what we do for our design work?
You guys were just talking about...
Yeah, go ahead.
Are you able to share it?
There you go.
And this is a design for our most important objective right now, which is Freedom Farm Academies.
Think of those as hubs that create spokes of food for us.
So local food banks, if you will, of unlocking that earth's potential.
And here, to Todd's point, here's the water assessments that we do.
We have a team of designers, a crack team of amazing people around the world who will go to this level of detail, assess the land you've got, and see what it can do for you.
And then you can see here, plot out exactly that placement that Todd was talking about of what will be most beneficial in your area, not to mention native plants in your area because you don't want to be bringing in stuff from other climate zones or that won't work with your soil type.
So this is exactly what you get when you sign up for a food forest or a Freedom Farm Academy.
And these Freedom Farm Academies are really designed for creating community in the local area off of the land and the bounty that we get, the abundance.
There's different ways to create revenue streams as well.
We were just talking about gold, but as long as the dollar is the forced currency in use, The legal tender, this is a way where you can deliver to your community not only plant starts, but education.
We're starting the first school down at Galt's Landing with Jim, and that'll be replicable to all Freedom Farm Academies out there, as well as agritourism and Airbnbs, just like Jim has at Galt's Landing.
So this is just another layer of what Food Forest Abundance can do for you, and it's going to be all tied into our launch of Origins Reclaimed Network.
Hey Rob, do you have real quick, can you pull up the design you all did for me so everybody can see how it was?
I don't have it.
I'm sorry if I interrupted Mike.
You do your whistle thing.
Sorry. No, that's quite alright.
But Todd, I know you're going to be showing us your food forest in some bonus material.
So like a walkthrough tour would be great.
Like what's working and what's not working.
But what I wanted to ask Rob was...
For an audience member that's listening, and they feel a little bit overwhelmed by this, what is the first simple food item that most people in North America can grow successfully and relatively easily?
I'm going to go with my favorite sweet potato.
Jim has, I don't know, a billion sweet potatoes growing down there at Galt in what was just sandy soil.
I can grow them here in coastal North Carolina and outside of...
Wilmington. And with a little bit of water, you can grow them in Texas, Arizona, anywhere they take.
And the abundance that they offer, these giant clusters of five, sometimes ten pound sweet potatoes that you can pull out of the ground.
Wow. Okay.
So sweet potatoes, but they love sandy soil.
And so you're perfectly set up, Jim, for the sweet potatoes there.
What about people who don't have a yard, indoor?
You did mention potatoes earlier, but What's the simplest thing they can grow indoors, you think?
Oh, gosh.
So we have a fella coming to Goss Landing.
His name is Eric Heinzelman.
And he was the head chef at Planet Hollywood.
And he opened up multiple stores nationwide.
And he has on his deck, which is like 8x10, he's got like 22 different herbs and spices and small trees.
And not only is his deck the most...
Beautiful deck on the second floor of a condo until he moves to Gauls, but it's also cooler and it's a lot tastier and a lot more functional.
Okay, quick question.
Which compass direction does his deck face or like what's the optimal facing?
Is it south?
Well, actually optimal might be south up here in the northern hemisphere, but there are a lot of plants that do not like the full sun.
So you just have to, with permaculture, you have to ask, What plants go well in this zone and in this microclimate?
Got it.
Okay, great, great answer.
Todd, back to you.
Yeah, when they designed mine, they actually selected the plants based upon, they literally came out.
I don't think they come out to everybody's property to do this, but assessed the path of the sun, and they determined exactly what to put where.
And I think they probably nailed it.
I'd give them a 90% grade on it.
There's one area that's just kind of not liking much of anything, but I think that's probably the case on any property, for whatever reason.
Maybe we don't even know why.
Maybe somebody's buried under there.
I could jump in real briefly on that.
Typically, when a development is done, they take...
Tons and tons of soil and dirt and whatever.
Sometimes they'll bury all of their junk in a particular area.
That's true.
Who do that?
Yeah. So it really depends on what's in the ground.
And then we have the solutions to heal the soil to take out the chemicals and transmute them to something that's bioavailable.
Yeah, that's huge.
I'm going to insert in here cassava, baby.
Cassava. That is a prosperous plant that I had never eaten before in my life, but I did harvest a ton like a month ago.
And you peel those bad boys, you chop them up, and you boil them for 25 minutes to get all the whatever out of them.
And then you mash them up.
You don't need a thing to eat those like mashed potatoes.
And literally, it's one of the best things I've ever tasted.
So that is a winner if you want to get abundance right away.
Well, Todd, I'll add to that.
When I lived in South America, If you have the right climate, we grew tons of yucca root.
The only mistake that you can make is leaving it in the ground too long where it gets a little stringy.
But other than that, you can't go wrong with yucca root.
All these tubers and the sweet potatoes that Rob mentioned and so on, these are carbohydrate calories that you get for free with almost no effort.
We have to talk about this.
I know, Jim, you're an expert on this.
You're all aware of this.
But, Jim, talk to us about the effort versus calorie output ratio.
Like, why that also matters.
Mike, that's such a beautiful question.
So I'll give you a real-life example.
So I brought a local pastor, Pastor Ross, who runs one of the biggest churches in our area.
And we invited him to Goss Landing to show him what stewardship...
Feels like.
Because his huge church is surrounded by a lawn.
And he instantly got it.
And so we gave him a sweet potato start.
And I said, hey, kick a hole in the ground and throw some dirt over it with your foot.
Take 20 seconds and kick a hole and see what happens.
Well, four months later, he was so inspired that he invited Christopher Allison and I. Chris was the security team leader at the Pentagon for the chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
He's now my partner, along with Robin and others.
And he invited us to his parish to give sweet potato starts to every family in his community.
And this is what we need to do, is create local, self-reliant communities that if the food supply chain fails, we have a local system to solve that problem.
That's right.
That's perfect.
Rob, you want to add to that some other things people can do?
Yeah, I mean, those sweet potato slips are, what, six inches long, a little piece of grass that looks like.
You shove it in the ground and you get 20 pounds.
So you talk about the caloric yield.
You get that big cluster and you can feed your whole family.
The other things are fruits.
I think berries and fruit trees.
One of my favorite things is telling the kids, go pick your breakfast.
There's no need for any kind of hassle in the mornings, no Eggo waffles or anything that's all poison-filled.
Just go pick some berries.
Yeah. Well, that brings up a question that I have, which is, and Todd, jump in any time, but when you're advocating for food forests, how much do you focus on just using really local, even indigenous plants that are already there, already proven in that area?
Yeah, it's essential.
They're naturally suited for your ecosystem, your hardiness zone per the USDA.
You know, I'm in an 8B here.
Jim's a little bit warmer down there, so it doesn't get much frost.
It's imperative that you have the right plants in the right soil, in the right geolocation.
And our team of designers has that down pat.
Right now, they're all doing it the hard way, you know, by crunching the numbers themselves.
But with your LLM, Mike, It's going to unlock a whole new potential of still having that human touch.
So if you buy a Freedom Farm Academy package or Food Forest, you're still going to have a designer, a human being, walking you through it.
But they're going to do all the heavy lifting with the LLM, spit out this beautiful design that takes all those factors into account.
And then you just get to get that human.
And even if you have a site visit, you can assess it.
All on the ground and map it out yourself.
You can do a DIY install or you can have a professional installer come down to your property and it's really just you sit back and drink lemonade and watch the whole beauty of Earth come out.
Beautiful. I just want to touch on some things that I've learned that when you all designed my food for us I believe you had Four banana trees.
You had maybe a half dozen cassava plants.
And as these cassavas grow, I learned about chop and drop, which is when it becomes very robust and a lot of leaves and whatever, you just chop that thing down and you just go feed your fruit trees.
You just lay them down, right?
So you aren't taking them out to the garbage to be taken away.
They become the food for your food forest, right?
But then the cassava, you chop the trunks into one-foot sections, and you just go bury them under the grass somewhere, or not the grass, somewhere in the food forest, and boom!
You turn around, click your heels, and about three weeks later, there's another cassava plant growing there.
My bananas, in just the 18 months, I went from four bananas to, we propagated now, Throughout my entire food forest, there are 25 banana trees.
It's so cool.
It started from four.
They have little pups.
You can let them grow up.
You replant them.
And that becomes the food for the soul, right?
You learn while you go.
Hey, Todd.
Yes? I got a chop and drop tool for you right here.
I got the custom sword.
This is...
Made in Arizona with the Magna Cut steel.
This is my favorite sword.
Would this work?
My food forest needs that, Mike.
Chop and drop also works on zombies, it turns out.
Yeah. But the last thing I want to share with everybody is please understand this aspect of it.
When I go through my food forest, I do chop and drop.
I harvest.
I admire.
I see the bees.
I see the butterflies.
There is that energy Jim talked about earlier that I've never experienced before in my life, ever.
And so it becomes addictive.
You just want to go out there.
And again, you do not have to be a gardener.
You can go out there and it just works itself.
Let's talk about that because, you know, I talked about calories earlier, but that's really just the most shallow version of this.
Rob, if you would, talk to us about how these plants are also synthesizing and naturally creating medicine.
And this is way beyond calories.
It's way beyond food.
This is medicine from nature.
Talk to us about that.
Absolutely. In my teenage years, I worked on a museum farm up in western Massachusetts called Hancock Shaker Village.
And I learned that the Shaker ladies back there, they had herb gardens.
That was their apothecary.
They would be in there all day, grinding up with a mortar and pestle.
These plants have natural molecules in them that are meant to heal us.
We're meant to coexist with them.
You talk about that multiplying.
Perennial herbs are one of the most powerful things you can grow, not only for the health of your forest, but for your own health.
So all the vitamins and minerals you could ever ask for.
And again, also free.
Completely free.
At least with a little bit of knowledge, you know, you're growing the plants that you think that you might need for your health challenges, right?
So how much do you incorporate this into your food forest designs, like actual, you know, medicinal herbs or even the medicinal properties of plants like berries?
Jim? Some designs.
So it's all up to the individual.
The first thing we ask is, where do you live?
And the second thing is, what do you want?
What's your vision?
What's your goal?
And this is one of my biggest failures in the learning of permaculture is the first principle of observe and interact.
Stewardship. When people get one of these systems and they're too busy to even think about it or interact with it, it's not going to be nearly as productive because there's something that we don't comprehend.
And they've studied this.
On orange harvests here in Florida, if you don't harvest the oranges, the orange tree won't give you as many oranges next year.
So literally just being standing, especially barefoot, on the ground in a food forest, every single person that I've had at Gulf Landing in our food forest, when they stand on the ground and I say, how do you feel?
They say they feel good.
Yeah. Yeah, there's...
There's a healing aspect to this, which really helps people decentralize from the pharmaceutical cartels, if you think about it, right?
I mean, it's not only food is medicine, but herbs are also medicine.
And now we're talking about multiple layers of decentralization, because literally, if you live more on these kinds of natural substances, you're not wading through the drive-through of the pharmacy all day.
Instead, you're at home in your garden, because that's your medicine, more and more, right?
Absolutely. It's food for the soul.
And you know what?
I think that when I'm playing Tadra Damas and I'm looking into the future with your LLM, Mike, people are going to be able to install a food forest, be able to work with food forest abundance.
And part of what they do do is they plant an herb garden they did with me.
And it was really cool to see it prosper.
But now I can imagine querying your database when I know that there is basil and mint and all of these different things.
And querying what are the medicinal properties of these and how might they, you know, and then have it.
And now I have something that just isn't for taste, but now it's to cure my body, not just feed my soul.
And your database will be able to do that, Mike.
Since you mentioned that, let me just give the website.
It's brighteon.ai.
It's a free open-source language model.
Currently, there's a wait list, but depending on when you see this, you might want to check it.
It might be already out by then.
It's called Enoch, and actually, it is trained.
On a massive amount of content of permaculture, gardening, sustainable agriculture, regenerative agriculture, all of these concepts, plus diagnosing plant diseases.
So you'll be able to type into it, like, oh, I've got white spots on my tomato leaves or yellow spots on this or this kind of bug.
It looks like this.
What is it?
And the model will be able to help you diagnose that.
And it'll even tell you, like, you could ask it, well, I have this plant.
What kind of soil does this need?
What minerals might be lacking?
It's got all that knowledge.
So it's a helper that you can use free of charge just to help you with your permaculture.
Love that.
That is so powerful and so incredible.
Food Forest Abundance is so thankful to have access or really to support this because we want to reduce the cost massively.
By the way, we don't have any patents.
We don't have any non-competes or any NDAs or any of that.
Everything we do is also open source.
People can take anything from our website, videos, content, and they can grow their own food, or they can start local communities.
Or if they want to collaborate with us, then great.
We're following Dr. Martin Luther King's advice.
Those who love peace must learn to organize as effectively as those who love war.
That's right.
That's right.
And you know what?
Let's talk about food security now for a second.
It's one thing.
I mean, I'm in the food business.
We have a lot of people that purchase our food.
It's a backup food supply.
And that's great.
But I also tell all of them the same thing.
Like, if you're in a crisis and you have to start living on that food, you better start growing food at the same time.
Because the only sustainable system is food that you grow and seeds that you save.
Yes. Go ahead, Rob.
Yeah, I mean, if you have the space, one head of cattle is the equivalent of 100 days of life support, so days of supply.
But if you're growing out of the ground, those plants will keep reproducing.
The cattle you slaughter one time.
And Jim has plenty of cattle there on Galt's Landing.
But what you've got in your backyard not only provides that food security, but it's also peace of mind as well.
And you talked about the health benefits, Mike.
The spiritual benefits of being in tune and knowing the confidence that you can grow out of the ground will take you through any emergency.
And of course, you want to plan it.
You want to do it right.
The seven Ps of planning I learned in the Marine Corps.
But yeah, if everything does go down, or even if not, even if everything stays okay in the food land world where you can go down the street to Kroger and pick up your dinner, even if that remains intact, you're going to have a much more meaningful lifestyle if you can start working with the Earth, collaborate rather than compete as a permaculture principle.
I'll give a free one to everybody out there when you're talking about medicinals.
Dandelions. I know everybody who's listening to this has a dandelion growing in their yard right now because it's March.
Go out there and take that thing, dry it out, and make a little tea out of it.
The health benefits for your immune system are just astounding.
Oh, yeah.
Or roll it in cassava flour with salt and pepper and pan fry it.
Yum. Yum.
It's like dandelion fritters, man.
Right? Aren't those good, Jim?
They're delicious.
The whole thing.
I mean, we walk out.
My job, by the way, now.
Now I don't have any bills anymore besides just fun stuff.
My job is to walk outside and love the land.
And the land loves me back exponentially.
Yeah. Yeah, totally.
And can I speak about the gift that keeps on giving?
There may be some viewers who may have the means but may not have the property or may not have the want to necessarily.
But let me share with you what I'm doing.
with Food Forest Abundance.
I'm working with them and next week, next Wednesday, they're meeting me and we're going to go over to my daughter just moved into a home, actually about a year ago, but she has her backyard and I'm gifting her a food forest.
She doesn't have a huge yard, but it is so cool.
She's so excited because I do have the means.
I want to be able to give her some of what I have, not just her come over and go through my food for us.
I work with Jim and the team and Cam, and we're going to go over there.
We're going to walk it with her.
She's going to make the decisions.
But it's funded.
And so there's going to be something that is going to be organized that's gifting food for us as well, like a small, medium, large.
Just everybody know that that's coming, and maybe you'll learn a little bit more of that in the bonus material.
That's probably the best gift that a father can give a daughter, really.
Well, we're even thinking about the notion of...
Bridal registries?
Can you imagine a food forest bridal registry?
Or somebody's married and instead of guests bringing a bunch of plates, how about they say, I want to gift them a peach tree or a strawberry tree.
You know what I'm saying, guys?
This is changing the world one plant at a time.
I'm about ready to pop out of my skin.
I'm so excited that you said that.
Think about now, when we organize the schools and the churches to do this, we send letters home to the families of the school, parents, and the churches, and we create the bridal registry, and then the kids and the communities turn their land into the Garden of Eden, into a food forest, and all of a sudden, boom!
This model can literally scale around the nation and around the world this summer.
It's a free idea.
Yeah, so let's do it.
Let's organize the influencers, because the influencers are key, because we help create awareness.
The next step is the permaculture people, which are everywhere, and the master gardeners.
And we organize these groups locally, and we create these bridal registries, and then the community comes together, and they start growing food.
And this has been done in World War II and in World War I. This was the government's initiation.
So why aren't they doing that now?
I wonder why.
But they should, but it's not up to them.
It's up to us.
Let's do this.
Go ahead, Mike.
Sorry. Well, no, we're 100% with you on that.
And I think, I forgot which official was recommending this in the Trump administration, but somebody was saying they want to end all HOA rules against gardening.
And I'm like, yes!
Like, it should never be illegal to grow food, even in your front yard, because gardens are never ugly, even if they look ugly.
They're still beautiful, right?
Absolutely. They're functional.
Hey, Jim, I'm just going to put my marketing hat on here.
You know, these wouldn't be bridal registries.
These are Garden of Eden registries.
Oh, cool!
Yeah. Yeah, so cool.
Okay, I've got another question for both of you.
Now, We cover technology a lot on this show and in this docu-series.
And right now, for food production, most of the automation is happening with the poison growers, right?
So they're using heavy tractor automation, and John Deere's got all these tractors that are robotic now, and they can robotically spray pesticides on everything.
They can robotically spray glyphosate.
But there's something that's about to happen, and I want to get your take on this, because I'm an advocate of this concept.
It might be a little bit controversial, but when little dog robots come out that we can own that are just a couple thousand dollars, and somebody's going to have open source software to turn that dog robot into a weed-pulling robot, you know what I'm saying?
Wouldn't that be actually useful for decentralization to take advantage of some automation, On your homestead.
Who wouldn't love a weed-pulling robot?
I'm just curious.
Is that going too far for you guys?
Or do you welcome the automation?
Yeah, we welcome automation.
We welcome anything that's going to help us get to a place of abundance.
In our food forest, the only time we need weeding is pathways because it grows so fast that we mow the pathways.
So this would be really functional in some of those circumstances, yes.
Plus, it could run security like a Terminator and prevent people from stealing your mangoes, Todd.
And we could probably program them to pee on some trees.
Yeah, for sure.
But I'm just thinking that part of decentralization is going to be this automation.
You know, there's all these robots coming out.
And I had a conversation with the Google whistleblower, Zach Voorhees, the other day about this.
And we're both thinking, you know, Humanoid robots are going to help people homestead.
Yeah. Because there's a lot of work.
You guys know there's a lot of work, like physical work involved, which is healthy for you.
I get it.
But sometimes not everybody can do all that work, right?
Depending on age or even injuries.
You know, veterans often may have an injury that prevents them, right?
Yeah. Yeah, it could be very helpful in some circumstances.
I personally love the work, but a lot of people don't, so that could be awesome.
Yeah, you don't look like a guy that shies away from grabbing a shovel and getting into it, you know?
It's my solace.
It's my meditation.
It's my prayer.
I love it.
Totally. I think in summary, guys, what we're talking about is reclaiming man's I didn't come up with that.
You guys did.
It's on my notes here.
Talk to me about Reclaiming Man's Origins.
I have been hyper-aware of what's going on for a long time, and I've been asking questions around how do we change the world.
We have created a platform, a marketplace, an online community marketplace.
We're all of the products and services that are needed to create freedom.
With the help of AI and all of the influencers have come together to organize effectively to bring these solutions.
And here's where it gets hyper exciting.
We are very transparent about our use of funds.
Every dollar that comes in is registered on our life clock.
And then we use 100% of our surplus.
To put food for us in schools and prisons and city parks and then put the marketing around why that makes a difference, why that's important.
And when people start to realize the joy of it and the logic of it and the science of it, then they will simply do it because it's best for them in every conceivable way.
So that's launching April 27th.
Beautiful. All right.
So, Todd, what have we left out here just back on the practical scope of this?
Is there anything we've left out that we could pass along right now that people could implement?
Well, it's always nice to be able to direct them on where you would go if you're like, okay, you guys have my attention.
And so let's talk about operationalizing your own vision of your own backyard.
Jim, Rob, how would people go about that?
What's the contact strategy to be able to engage with you guys to install a food forest?
Yeah, it's pretty simple.
Foodforestabundance.com.
You can go there and you can sign up for a free strategy session.
You'll talk to one of our designers on the phone, a warm actual human being.
Get in touch with them and sit down and just we'll go over the five W's of what you're trying to achieve and what you've got to work with.
But we are completely adaptable and we'll work with, and yep, there's the website right there, Jim's beautiful face.
Yeah, and if you're looking for one of those hubs that we talked about, the Freedom Farm Academies, maybe it is at an institution, you are the principal of an elementary school or a pastor of a church, or you're just an entrepreneurial-minded individual and you want to have a centerpiece of your local community that provides both food and meaning to your fellow man.
Just hit us up, and we'll get right back to you, and we can start the planning immediately.
That's awesome.
That's awesome.
Look, I also think this is going to be necessary.
This is a necessary skill set, and it's redundancy in your life, right?
So sometimes people panic when the grocery store shelves are empty, which kind of happened during COVID for certain things.
Everybody panics.
I don't panic about that.
I'm just going to go home and eat what I have there.
If I have to, I'll just turn to all the wild foods that I have.
I've got so many acorns.
All I have to do is treat them and get the tannins out.
I've got acorn pancakes.
That's effortless food.
I've got seven or eight wild foods that I don't do anything for.
Actually, Jim, you know what I did?
I just decided to not poison the land.
That's all I did.
No herbicides, no pesticides for over a decade, and boom!
There's food everywhere.
There's food everywhere.
And can I share with you guys?
When I installed my food forest, I made that same decision to not poison the back and the front.
And since not poisoning the front, which still is just grass and plants, it looks just as good as our neighbors.
I almost wonder if that's just all a huge scam.
You know what I mean?
They're just spraying water on her.
It looks as good as our neighbors, and I don't poison it anymore.
Yeah. Well, this is, I mean, Jim, speak to this, too, about, I mean, like, I remember visiting macadamia nut farms on the Big Island in Hawaii, and one of them destroyed their mac nut trees by spraying glyphosate to kill weeds around the mac nut trees.
Got into all the soil, got into the roots.
Killed the macadamia orchard, which takes like 20 years to come back.
Like, what?
Oh, my God.
It's so ignorant.
And, you know, ignorance is easy to overcome with wisdom and with learning.
So it's just to kill the microbiome.
The microbiome is the foundation of life.
So to place poisons on it.
Anyway, we know that whole story.
And that whole system is being revealed at scale right now.
And the lawsuits are everywhere.
And so we just have to keep helping people see that to take the poisons out is the first step.
And then if that's all we do, the world will provide radical abundance for us.
That's true.
The resilience of a system.
Is defined by the strength of its interconnections, its relationships.
And if you own a little piece of property, you are a big piece of that.
So not only, like you said, Todd, perfect example, you stop using poisons on the front yard, everything around it starts to benefit, including yourself.
Because those toxins don't just get in there and mess up the weeds you don't want, weeds.
But they get in your system and your kid's system.
And they do irreparable harm that may never come out of your body, your system.
And your pet's systems.
And I want to mention, too, that minerals, ocean water minerals, this is so critical to be putting into the food.
And even back to Hawaii, I remember that the mac nut trees where the roots had access to some ocean water.
They always grew sweeter macadamia nuts.
They were literally sweeter because of the mineral content.
I was like, wow, I never knew that.
But yeah, and if you don't have mineral content, your food, it can't work as well.
You add minerals to a typical garden.
Sometimes you can, what, 50% more production, Jim?
What do you think?
Oh, gosh.
Actually, it's infinitely more production because every bit of more production turns into exponentially more production.
Again, it's the awareness factor.
People simply don't, they've been programmed.
One of the ultimate programs is I've got a brown thumb, I've got a black thumb, I don't have the time, the money, the know-how.
Right now, everybody listening, go buy some heirloom seeds or some organic seeds, some seeds that you can store and then start putting in the ground as the ground thaws this spring.
And the plants will become your most valued teachers.
And then they'll also provide you food and medicine.
Yeah. Well said.
Well said.
And it's, I gotta say, of all the best people I know that is just the most kind, compassionate human beings, they all grow some amount of their own food.
There's something about growing food that makes you a better person, literally.
Absolutely. Haven't you seen that?
Yeah. In fact, Thich Nhat Hanh, he was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize, and he was getting real busy.
And one of his assistants said, you don't have time to garden today.
And he said, I don't have time to not garden today.
It's a fundamental.
And that's my experience.
This is literally my salvation.
Being in God's design.
I almost got tears in my eyes right now.
It is what keeps me so energized and so joyful about this amazing life.
Yeah, Todd, hasn't it been humbling just having your food forest, learning more, being closer to nature?
Incredibly humbling.
And what I didn't realize is how many species of different plants that they installed.
So there's this app that I have on my phone to where I literally would go out there every morning for weeks, months even, and I would just...
Because I couldn't remember every plant.
So I would just refresh my memory and then add it to my garden.
And that's the community, the communing that I did with the food forest.
And, you know, I recently hauled a lot of cassava that I prepared to my different neighbors.
And it just hit me now as we're talking.
You know, my neighbors that don't do this, what are they going to share with the rest of the community?
Pizza Hut boxes?
Yeah, that's true.
And that app, that's a plant identification app.
I know the one you're talking about, although I forgot the name of it.
What's the name?
I'm going to look.
It's on my home screen right now.
Where is it?
Picture this.
Picture this.
Okay. So it's so funny because on my ranch, I've grown to know these plants.
All kinds of different shrubs and trees.
I've grown to know them over the years and to know their personality and to know their habits.
But I never knew what they were called until a friend came over with that app.
Oh, this is called that.
This is a gum tree.
I'm like, okay.
I just called that the sticky, courageous plant or whatever.
Everything's got a personality.
But thanks to that app, I found that there's a whole...
System of briars on my property that produce vitamin C rosehip bundles once a year.
So I've got an unlimited vitamin C supply that I didn't even know about.
It's like, whoa, you know?
Yep. God didn't mess up this design at all.
Yeah. Yeah, it's wild.
Okay, so look, foodforestabundance.com is the website.
That's where people can check out your, you've got educational material, you've got your services, obviously, for food forest design.
And then, in addition, in our upcoming docuseries, Todd, you're doing, well, go ahead and describe all the bonus material that you're putting together with these guys.
Yeah, I'm going to go over to Galt's Landing, and we're going to walk, and so you're going to actually be able to see all of this that we discussed, and we'll be able to show you what it looked like.
Three years ago where it was nothing but sand.
And then you're going to be blown away to just see how prosperous everything is and how diverse everything is.
And you might even get us around a campfire because I'm going to stay and they're going to start a campfire.
It's going to be a lot of fun.
Also going to have some of Jim's team come over to my food forest and we're going to walk around and be able to talk some specifics and be able to talk about what...
I've learned through this, but we just want to make it practical so that you guys have a really good sense of what you might be in for.
But man, I don't see a downside to it.
The one thing, Mike, that you and I have talked about is how the dollar is melting in value, right?
Yeah. And I want to let you know that I literally loved paying for my food forest.
With cash that I had saved that's been in my stupid little safe for years and years, because I've always been a good little saver, $100 a week here and there, and knowing that I was giving them, I mean, I almost feel like I pulled one over on them because they just got this melting cash, and what I got was this prosperous food for us.
It's going to be in my family for generations.
I mean, the food forest really is an asset.
We talked about gold earlier.
It's an asset that keeps on producing as long as we have sunlight, which if we don't have sunlight, we have other problems to deal with.
But as long as we have sunlight, there you go.
That is a powerful asset.
And I will also add to that...
There's also infrastructure that you can build.
For example, rainwater collection.
So we do rainwater collection as part of our production of our colloidal silver products here in Texas.
So we have a massive, massive tanks that collect off of our commercial building.
I mean, we're talking hundreds of thousands of gallons of rainwater, right?
So think about that, Jim.
What's the value of rainwater in a drought?
You know what I mean?
The value could be life and death in some cases, and it has been many times.
Right. So dollars, yeah, I mean, you can use them for lots of things right now.
They're losing value, but why not convert your dollars into a food forest or convert it into rainwater collection or convert it into, you know, even permaculture concepts like hire a guy with a bulldozer who knows what he's doing and build the swales so you can capture runoff water.
You can retain water.
You can stop erosion.
You can actually build new microclimates where the water rests on your property.
And I do the same thing.
And I know it's weird.
People say, oh, you're messing up the land with the bulldozer.
Yeah, I get it.
I get it.
I am disturbing the soil.
But five years down the road, that soil is now super abundant and it's got water and trees start growing there automatically without me even having to plant them.
That's the way it works.
Yes, the foundation of wealth of our world is nature, right?
And we call it composting the fiat, right?
This is fiat, and it's going down.
It's poop.
And what do you do with poop?
You compost it.
I can buy a fruit tree with that, that just by the size of the fruit tree alone will be worth three to five times as much in 12 to 18 months.
That's true.
Yeah, that's true.
That's very important because installing a food forest is an investment, not an expense.
Yep. I will tell you that if we sold our home, which we won't, but when it was just nothing but grass back there versus this Garden of Eden I have now, oh my goodness, I can't imagine the premium that we would receive on our home.
That's true.
Especially in the middle of a food crisis.
Yeah, go ahead, Rob.
And food crisis is right.
The intangible skills that come from being one with your food forest and being a good steward, you get the know-how of how to basically speak the language of your plants.
Get them more happy, like you said, with the minerals from the salt, from the sea.
But other skills as well that also use technology like food preservation.
So you've got this head of cabbage.
It's going to be okay for one meal, but if you can get a little bit of salt and a bucket and give it a couple weeks, you're going to have sauerkraut that you can can and preserve for whatever might come, whatever eventuality that we might see in the coming months.
That's right.
That's right.
All of this goes together.
This is a synergistic skill set.
That goes along with many of the other episodes that we have here, Todd, on the docuseries about preparedness, about financial asset protection, about redundancy, resiliency, being adaptive.
And nothing is more adaptive than Mother Nature.
So the closer we get and the closer we work with Mother Nature, instead of fighting it all the time, oh, we've got to poison this and poison that and drug this and drug that, which is also the way people treat their own health problems.
Like, oh, this hurts.
What do we do?
Poison it.
Yeah, that'll help.
No. It's like, how about you nurture it instead?
I don't know.
Cut it off.
It hurts.
Cut it off.
I mean, that's what the surgical system is.
It's crazy.
But we are all about working with Mother Nature.
So I just want to thank you guys for taking the time to join us today here on this episode.
It's been a pleasure.
Jim, you're always an inspiration.
Your energy, your enthusiasm for this is really infectious.
So thank you both for joining us.
Thank you guys so much.
Have a great day, everybody.
See you soon, Jimmy.
Yeah, I can't wait to see all your bonus film material, Todd, as you're visiting them.
But, of course, this is just one episode of many in a docu-series, and if you don't know what we're talking about, maybe we haven't launched it yet, and we're offering this as a preview, but it is coming.
It will be at brightu.com when we launch it.
So, just thank you, gentlemen, for joining us.
The website, is foodforestabundance.com and then Todd and I will be right back after this short break with the rest of today's episode for Decentralized TV.
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