Mike Adams interviews US Congressman Michael Cloud on DOGE, cutting the size of government...
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Welcome to today's interview here on Brighteon.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon, and today we're joined on a repeat basis now here.
The second time he's joined us is our congressman from Central Texas.
Michael Cloud, his website is cloudforcongress.com.
Welcome, Congressman.
Well, thank you.
An honor to have you here.
Yeah, good to be here.
Good to see you again.
Excited about all that's happening here with everything that you're doing, but also in the region, in Texas.
It's a good time for our country as well.
Well, and it's a great time to be a Texan.
Oh, for sure.
Texas is really flourishing.
And I want to ask you about a number of things, data centers and...
You know, everybody wants to move to Texas now, it seems.
Yeah, exactly.
But you're on the, I think you're on the DOGE subcommittee?
Yes, I'm on the DOGE subcommittee.
That's part of oversight.
I've been on the oversight committee since I got to Congress, but with everything that's going on now, we create a special committee for DOGE that cooperates specifically with what's going on.
We'll help you bring in light to what's happening.
All the things that the DOGE team is doing, but also being able to bring people before our committee and really target in on the investigatory side and bring things to light that will lead to legislation that supports what the executive branch is doing.
Well, that's great to hear, and I'm sure you've heard this from other constituents, but I think I speak on behalf of our audience when I say we 100% support DOGE investigations.
We want to go full speed ahead.
We don't want any brakes put on Elon's efforts.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
You know, a lot of the complaints you see coming from the left are really designed to try to manage the clock.
You know, you look at what's going on with the federal employees and it's almost like they want him to personally sit down with all 100,000 employees or whatever and personally interview them before.
Right.
You know, and we understood this coming into the election.
You got about an 18-month window to save the country.
And so you have to move fast.
Right.
Because this is the window of opportunity.
So you got to move fast.
Move hard.
You've got to make the course corrections as we go, as they are doing and are willing to do.
That's right.
You know, there's things that I and others have called, you know, that are going on in the district.
You know, we had some military installations affected by some employee things that we had to reach out, and it's like, okay, yeah, we'll look into that and deal with that.
A little bit of fine-tuning.
Right.
So that's all understanding and expected, but you can't let...
You can't let them try to talk us into them managing the clock and missing this unique window of opportunity we have.
Well, and what's astonishing, did you see Elon's interview with Senator Ted Cruz where he talked about the 14 magic money computers that they found?
I did not see that specific one.
Oh, this is...
I heard it this morning.
This clip is just really going viral because...
Elon says that they found 14 computers, many of them in Treasury, some in HHS, some in DOD, etc., that simply, out of thin air, they don't transfer money, they initiate money.
They basically send a transfer of billions of dollars, but there's nothing behind it.
It's just out of thin air.
Magic money computers.
Yeah.
Like, that's crazy!
You wonder, you know, we expected to see, you look, administration pass, you know.
President after president after president has talked about cutting the waste, fraud, and abuse.
There's been a video circulating of President Obama, and it would sound as if the talking points were written by Elon or President Trump himself.
He's talking about the, you know, we need to cut back on the waste, and it's not all important dollars, but it's your dollars, and no matter how little it is, we need to make sure we're getting rid of this waste, fraud, and abuse.
And some of these are very important things that even if we weren't in debt, we would still need to...
You know, it could be good things, but it's still not for your taxes.
You know, this is President Obama talking about what they're going to do.
And then at the end of the video, almost humorously looking back, he puts Joe Biden in charge of the project.
And maybe we wonder why nothing got done on it.
But this should be a bipartisan issue.
But the thing that we're doing is we're uncovering and realizing, like, we've unveiled this, what I call the world's largest money laundering scheme, If this was a business, it would certainly be illegal to go to all these leftist ideas,
ideologies, NGOs that are supporting this Marxist ideology all across here at home, but then all across the world.
Many of those NGOs were involved in the border invasion.
Yes.
They were funding the traffic.
The censorship regime, the border invasion.
Yes.
You can look at what went on with COVID.
I mean, all the crazy stuff that was happening.
It's our tax dollars working to undermine our own country.
So it doesn't surprise me at all that there's some magic money computers going on.
Yeah.
You should get one in your office.
Don't wish we all had one.
Right.
And if we did, the dollar would be worth exactly...
Exactly zero.
Everybody would just print endless money.
But the power to print endless money shouldn't be in the hands of unelected bureaucrats who do whatever they want with it, like you were just describing.
Exactly.
And that's, again, one of the talking points you hear coming from the left.
Now, oh, unelected person.
He's operating on the delegated executive authority of the President of the United States.
That's right.
The only one elected by the whole country in order to do this.
And then we've been dealing for years with unelected bureaucrats throughout the entire federal government.
And a lot of the things we're uncovering right now through Doge...
It's not that we haven't asked the questions, it's that we haven't gotten the answers.
And so they've been, you know, you start an investigation, they slow walk it, they give you half answers, and then you have to follow that up, and that takes another three or four months.
And, you know, it's, again, managing the clock, slow rolling.
And now we have somebody in the executive branch who's willing to work with us and answer these questions and bringing technology, amazing technology tools to the table to really map these things out and define answers on these things.
and how smart they were to come in and really catch everybody off guard.
And, you know, basically they went to sleep one night and woke up and had so much of this already mapped out by the time they woke up in the next week.
I think the Democrats were really taken by surprise, like you said, by Elon's deployment of the AI crawlers and data aggregation tools.
Yeah, exactly.
Elon and his team were ready.
Oh, they certainly were.
They probably just had thumb drives with all the crawlers on them.
Like, plug this in, boom, it's going to map out the whole thing.
And it's one of those things, looking back, I think the left is probably thinking, we should have just, you know...
Wish he was elected twice in a row.
Wish he would have just stayed in office because...
Oh, Trump.
Yeah, President Trump.
Because President Trump, his administration is the most prepared administration coming in this time, and they are not playing around, thankfully.
And most Americans are sitting there going, this is exactly what we voted for.
We wanted whole-scale change.
We didn't want the promises not to be...
We wanted to see action.
And even those who may not agree with every single point realize that finally we are getting somebody in office who's doing what they said that they would do.
And that, by and large, is going to be the overall win for the American people.
Talk to us about how long things take in Washington, D.C. Because one of the things that I notice is that among our audience and people on Twitter, etc., there's a lot of impatience about wanting things like,
Yeah.
You know, like Fauci in particular.
And then when Trump said, look, Joe Biden's auto pen pardons are null and void.
Yeah.
We all cheered.
Yeah.
We all cheered.
But there's a lot of impatience.
People are impatient with, you know, Kash Patel, Dan Bongino, who was only sworn in a couple of days.
You got to give the guy time.
Yes.
You know, he's probably still moving into his office.
And then there's RFK Jr. at HHS.
He's taken a lot of heat from a lot of people because they expected that he would go in and just start banning all kinds of toxic medications on day one.
And tell us about how it actually...
Yeah, there's a few issues at play here.
One, before serving in commerce, I'm an American citizen.
I wish things were moving quicker as well.
Having said that, they're moving quicker than they ever have before.
And so you certainly have to give this administration credit.
But you also have to realize...
And we know it, but the bureaucracy is working against the administration.
I was talking to one official who described it.
It's like, yes, you're named the general, but then you realize you're the general of the enemy's army, in a sense.
And very often they're working against...
We were talking to the Doge team, and our subcommittee had a meeting with them, and they said, have you heard of the Chico's?
And we're like...
What are the Chicos?
The Chicos?
Yeah.
It's like a soccer team in Mexico.
They're basically the HR officials, the Chief Human Capital Officers, I think is what it stands for.
Oh.
And basically they, you know, so Doge shows up at the door and they do everything they can to impede, to make sure this isn't happening, that Doge isn't able to have access to the databases.
For example, you heard during the joint session of Congress, President Trump gets up there, he talks about 20 million people or so on Social Security rolls that are over 120 or something along those lines.
Not every single one of them is getting paychecks.
Some of them were.
But you take that database and you compare it with, for example, the Small Business Administration, and you find out that thousands of those people were getting small businesses.
business loans.
That's bonkers.
Right. And so if we took that database and compared it with many other databases, you would begin to find the same sort of thing potentially.
Instead of saying, okay, this is just...
We're not even talking about policy sets, right?
This isn't about what you think or what.
This is just waste, fraud, abuse at this point.
Money and laundry.
Improper payments, right.
And so this should be something that is...
Non-partisan.
It's not even bipartisan.
It's just non-partisan.
This would just be normal due diligence as a business.
But what, at least this is my opinion, the Democrats can't survive without the money laundering.
If you think, you know, people look at the United States of America and say, well, we're kind of a 50-50 split.
You know, we kind of go this way, conservative values this way, you know, depending on the election or the ebb and tide of what's going on.
Maybe that's true when it comes to the elections, but you think what's upheld the left right now, it's been this huge taxpayer-funded money laundering scheme that's going to support all these NGOs that turn out to get out the vote efforts and at a minimum are advancing these Marxist-leftist ideologies throughout the institutions of the United States,
and then that wasn't enough.
So on top of that, they'd have put a censorship regime in place that squelches conservative voices and keeps, you know...
Keeps what at the time was the contrary views off the air and prosecutes and targets parents at school board meetings and people with any sort of contrary views.
Well, COVID origins.
So in the last week, we just saw the New York Times now...
In an op-ed, admit that we were all lied to that it actually came out of the lab that was funded through Fauci's NIAID, right?
Yeah.
And gain-of-function research, which is illegal in the U.S., it was offshore to China so that they could do it.
China did it so that they could steal the intellectual property of the SARS-CoV-2 bioweapon.
I mean, now the New York Times is saying it, but when I said it in 2020, I get banned.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
And called crazy.
For saying, just for being ahead of what was obvious.
Exactly, yeah.
It was like the worst kept secret in all of history, right?
Every American's like, hmm, I wonder where it came from.
Where do you think the COVID...
Could it have been the Wuhan lab that was studying it?
No, it's the market next door.
Never made sense.
Never made sense at all.
And the fact that people were banned and that censorship regime was put in place.
It's great that five years later they're coming out and admitting what was essentially obvious, but really we need to do more than that.
Can I add, the censorship hasn't ended.
That's the thing.
Google, YouTube, and Facebook are still censoring.
Many of the same kinds of posts are people talking about the benefits of ivermectin, for example.
Or people still talking about 2020 election fraud analysis.
They still get banned on those platforms.
Well, that's exactly...
You know, you look at Mark Zuckerberg coming out and, hey, we're going to make a donation to the presidential library or whatever.
Oh, that's great.
You spent $400 million advancing Mark's sociology, fiddling with an election, banning people, causing them to lose their careers.
Like, are you going to make up, are you going to deswaddle that?
Are you going to have some sort of recompense for those people who lost their careers, lost their livelihood, lost their, because...
You de-platform them, demonetize them, and even now the shadow banning still goes on.
It does.
And then the algorithms are still not working in our favor.
Not that they should be working in our favor, they should just be neutral.
They should just be neutral.
Level playing field.
But they're not.
They're working against conservative ideas still.
You know, if you're going to fix it, fix it.
Yeah, exactly.
And I know Trump has issued some executive orders in that direction.
I also believe the FTC has issued some letters to big tech that I think can open the door to possible investigations along this route.
I think the FTC is the right agency to handle this, don't you?
I would, you know, I'm always from the congressional viewpoint that, you know, we need to be looking into this and then we'll hand these things over.
FTC should definitely be looking into it.
The one tool that we're going to have that we didn't have before, and we're looking at this in the DOGE subcommittee already, is, you know, people would talk about, why aren't we seeing people in handcuffs?
And as a member of Congress, I'm like, believe me, you know, sometimes I wish I had the authority to put the cuffs on myself, but...
That's the executive branch.
And what we had before was a Department of Justice that was corrupt, that was in on the gig, so to speak.
And so criminal referrals would go nowhere.
Now that's a tool at our disposal that as we investigate these things, we now have a DOJ that will work with us on those things.
Now those cases, if you're going to win the case...
Do take some time, you know, getting back to why things take so long.
If you're going to win a case, it takes a little longer to put the case together.
There's, you know, people you can jump in and throw a case out there and a brief out there for a messaging and win the messaging news cycle of the day.
But you don't want to be embarrassed with a bad court loss.
Right, right.
But, you know, now people can use that same excuse to just slow walk things.
So you've got to make sure you have people in there who are doing it right.
But by and large, the people that President Trump has put together in his administration are people who experienced what it meant to have the full force of the government working against them.
And so they are people who are coming in to make right what was wrong.
This is a good time for me to play two minutes of a song for you that I wrote.
Oh, wow.
I'm not going to embarrass you, by the way.
This is a great song, but it's on this topic.
It's about how the American people have been really abused by, let's say, regulatory overreach.
And I think you'll love the lyrics of this because also at one point in the song it says, we can't sin our way to salvation.
But there's this belief that we can...
Print our way to riches.
I want to play this for you and just get your reaction, but it's about two minutes and I brought a good quality speaker.
It's called All Our Dreams Come True.
It's about how tyrants in big government could make all our dreams come true if all their promises were real.
Give this a listen if you would, please.
Here we go.
If we could comply our way to freedom, then we could bomb our way to peace.
We could print our way to riches, give away everything for free.
If we could tax our way to liberty and lie our way to truth, then tyrants in big government would make all our dreams come true.
That's important.
Yeah.
Yeah. Here's some fruit.
A farmer in Montana forced to cull his chicken flocks.
A team of federal agents wielding rifle shields and glocks.
A restaurant owner in deep South Dakota told to shut it down.
It seems that government inspectors didn't like who he elected downtown.
A cafe serving breakfast in Austin, Texas was raided by the FDA.
Yeah.
A single mom in Memphis has been relentless schooling her autistic son.
But the medical state tried to take him away and now she's on the run.
It's time that we deny those old repeated lies.
If we could comply our way to freedom, then we could bomb our way to peace.
We could print our way to riches, give away everything for free.
If we could tax our way to liberty and lie our way to truth, then tyrants in big government would make all.
One more verse.
All our dreams come true.
A gym in Arizona with a patriotic owner refused to comply.
With the lockdown, so they knocked down his door and arrested the guy.
A disabled homeowner, an American voter was handed a steep fine.
She tried to grow tomatoes on her patio, so the city shredded her vines.
A hospital worker and a proud New Yorker lost her job today.
She didn't want the jab, so they said they had to take her license away.
An Oregon rancher was arrested for capturing water falling from the sky.
They threw him in jail for a water crime and let his crops run dry out.
Well, and it's important we don't forget, too.
A lot of us would like to put the COVID era behind us and all the craziness we've seen over the last few years, but it is so important that we remember because it's those kind of things that will safeguard us against the tyranny,
the potential tyranny that always exists when we put corrupt people in charge.
That song reminds me of something.
One of the things I've always said, because you'll hear politicians all the time say, our number one job is to keep you safe.
I'm not going to say that's not important.
Not at any cost, right?
Our most important job is to keep people free.
That's right.
And that is absolutely the number one job.
If you get those two reversed, every single evil can come out of that.
You're exactly right.
And our job is to keep people free.
This is why it's the land of the free and the home of the brave.
Those things are too intricately connected.
You can't have freedom without a people who are brave, and certainly that applies to our veterans and first responders and all, but it applies to all of us.
I mean, freedom comes with a risk, and it comes with a price, even from, you know, you talk theological standpoint, you know, even from a theological standpoint, we believe our salvation comes at a price, you know?
Oh, I didn't play that section, but that's coming up in the song, but I didn't want to take a...
More time.
But the point is, the things I put in the song are all true.
So there was a rancher in Oregon that was arrested for rainwater collection.
Because the crazies in Portland say, well, that's our water.
How dare you use it to water your crops?
And there's moms that are trying to raise autistic sons and doing homeschooling.
And then the medical police state comes and takes away the kid from the mom.
I mean, I've interviewed...
Experts on that very point, attorneys who represent families.
But you know all this.
You hear all these stories, I'm sure.
But freedom has to be first.
And it's not going to be 100% safe in every way all the time.
We would have had the American Revolution without people saying, give me liberty or give me death, without people willing to pay the price, without people willing to put our lives, our fortunes, our sacred honor on the line.
And so that was not the safe decision to make.
The signers of the Declaration, that was not the safe decision.
They weren't looking for a king.
They were looking for freedom.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, so let's pivot to Texas and your priorities.
What's your focus on, is it the 27th District?
Yeah, 27th District of Texas.
It's certainly an exciting place to serve.
I love the people of our district.
Actually, if you can bring one of my staff people here.
One of the things I love about our district is the fact we've gone through Harvey ourselves recently.
We went through, we saw our nation go through some natural disasters, and what I love about the people in our district is their first look isn't toward the government, it's what can we do to help our neighbor.
That's right.
And certainly we can talk about FEMA and the role that they should or shouldn't play and all those different kind of things, but we all know we have an obligation to love our neighbor.
One of the things I really appreciated, and I don't know how many people know this, but you helped in the tune of hundreds of thousands of food supply, hundreds of thousands of dollars of food supply to help people.
And we save an award for special occasions like this.
So a couple of things here.
We have what we call the Patriot Award that we wanted to present to you.
So this is United States Congress, Mike Adams, you and your team.
High expression of appreciation for distinguished commitment and service to our community and our country.
So we wanted to make sure you had that.
I am touched.
Wow, let's see.
I think we have an overhead camera that can maybe get a shot of that.
Wow.
Yeah, I mean, it's kind of up there, but it's got a better overhead shot.
No, not directly.
Oh, see, there's the shot.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
There it is.
There we go.
Wow.
United States Congress.
And then along with that, we wanted to get you a flag from the Capitol.
Oh, wow.
And of course, a certificate of authentication, flagging the United States.
Wow.
Anyway, as someone in our district, we like to honor works of service like this that are just outstanding.
And so thank you for the work that you've done.
Thanks for being a part of that.
Thank you.
I feel so honored to have a flag from the Capitol.
I would have appreciated Nancy Pelosi's podium, but I would have had to break in to get there on January 6th, but I wasn't there.
So this is really great.
I'm just kidding.
I'm really honored.
Thank you for that.
We don't ever really get any recognition from the government or media or anybody.
We just do it because it's the right thing to do.
Of course, yeah.
Of course.
And that's one of the things I certainly appreciate your heart in.
For folks at home, I didn't tell them this was happening.
No, this is a real surprise, and it's a pleasant surprise.
I mean, I'm really honored.
And look, the food that we shipped out over the last eight months, whatever it was, none of that food went to this district because there wasn't a crisis here.
But there will be.
We've had fires.
We've had freezing weathers.
I'm thinking the 2011 fires.
We are here for Central Texas to respond.
But that food we shipped out to North Carolina, we shipped to Florida, and then we shipped to California after the fires, the LA fires, or North LA.
And pallets and pallets of food, but our storage facility is here.
So when Texas needs us, we're here for Texas.
And we're not waiting for orders from...
The governor, I mean, even before you call us, like you can call us or the sheriff can call us and say, hey, we need food over here.
Yes, but we're going to start that anyway.
Well, and getting kind of back to the topic at hand, this is really what makes a great country.
I mean, yes, we want a government that's working for us, but what makes a great country is a great people.
It's we the people.
We, the government, or, you know, I mean, you can have a great government, or a big government, whatever, powerful government, but if you don't have good people, you still have a poor country.
And so we can have an imperfect government, but if we have good people, that's really where it's at.
And one of the things that happened after these disasters was, under Biden, FEMA was itself a disaster.
And you may not know this, but we had, when we shipped our food to North Carolina, It was the Pole Creek Baptist Church in Candler, North Carolina.
That's where we had to ship it to.
And you know why?
Because FEMA is not allowed to confiscate food from churches.
Oh, yeah.
I heard story after story.
We were talking to people on the ground, and they're like, this is our third shipment of food, and FEMA comes and confiscates it.
They did.
And so people trying to rescue their friends and neighbors in hiding from FEMA.
Like, this is not...
We're going to have to be like food smugglers in our own country.
That's certainly not the role of what the federal government is supposed to be doing.
No, but I think Trump's already swapped out the leadership of FEMA and there's a lot of reforms happening.
We're thrilled about that.
I want to say this too because Those of us out here, we're working our tails off.
We are not anti-government.
We are anti-corruption.
We can work with government in ways to help the people in their time of need.
We're not opposed to the existence of some of these agencies, although they should be a lot smaller.
But we just want them to work.
With the people and not take our food.
And that's the big issue right now.
And as we're working on Doge, the biggest issue is right-sizing these.
Most of them, they're either not accomplishing their initial objective.
almost all of them have expanded well beyond their initial objective, uh, and have accumulated powers.
You know, we have to have somebody come to us and say,
Not going to happen.
Yeah. So if you don't have people in Congress working to serve as a check on that and remember that we're here to represent the people and to make sure that they're accomplishing their objectives, that it maintains that position as a limited government.
Yeah. You know, we were a free people.
Our Constitution talked about it.
The whole point was to limit the power of the federal government.
That's why the Constitution was written.
It was to put guardrails on the federal government and establish a limited government, a framework to keep us as a civil society.
So it has an important role.
Like you said, it's not anti-government.
It's about being pro a right-sized government and poor or free people.
Or anti-fraud, anti-corruption, anti-slush.
Fund, money, USAID.
But another example where Congress created the EPA.
And then the EPA, over time, went into this insane overreach where they tried to regulate the air and the skies.
And carbon dioxide.
And looking for the next thing, too, that they could possibly regulate.
And what's crazy about that is you had...
People, too, who had no—regulating industries they had absolutely no experience in.
That's right.
And putting things, goals and regulations and benchmarks out there that were scientifically impossible, if not implausible.
And, you know, it's a difference.
I've talked to industries and said, you know, we want to be good neighbors.
We want to be good partners.
You know, in our district, we're an ag and a petrochemical district, by and large.
You know, people realize now that your employees are working and living and breathing the air in your community.
So you want clean air, you want clean water, but when you're dealing with regulators, there's a difference between working with people who are trying to get to yes and people are looking for every reason to say no.
Well, right, and let me give an example of the EPA, because I know a lot of farmers in your district, right?
And those farmers, like one of them was telling me that...
Because of an EPA program with the federal government, he had to have his engine block destroyed on his old tractor because there's an incentive for that to be applied to newer equipment, right?
The problem is it was a perfectly good tractor.
So we live in a country where the EPA pays people to destroy old tractors, which are the ones that actually tend to work the best because they don't need software updates and all these things.
These newer tractors are just highly complex.
Like an old tractor, an old ranch hand, you can work on it.
You can fix it.
You can get it running.
But the government's paying people to destroy tractors.
It's like, what?
Farmers are already dealing with very small margins.
And then they are forced to buy tractors that have all this ancillary equipment on that that's not necessary to compete against farmers in other countries who are Can get the same John Deere tractor for much less because it doesn't have all this ancillary equipment on it.
Yeah.
And so we put our farmers at a disadvantage through these crazy regulations.
And this is not about protecting the food supply.
No.
It's about EPA wanting to ban combustion engines.
Exactly.
Meanwhile, China's building coal plants every single day.
Yes.
And it's just what we're...
The ends that we're working toward were not really—I remember sitting in a committee hearing, and the Democrat chair at the time said, we're in a national climate emergency.
And I was like, if there is a climate emergency, it's not a national one.
It's a global one, if there is one.
And so we can't approach this by, like, passing U.S. regulations, you know?
Right.
And China's building all the coal plants, like you said.
You could debate whether there is or not, but if there is one, it doesn't stop at the borders.
It certainly doesn't begin at the borders.
And we're doing this better.
We're doing this more responsibly.
We're producing energy more efficiently than any other country.
And so we need to take up more of the world's market in this.
Not to mention it helps us to support our allies and helps bring people out of poverty around the world.
Energy is a good thing.
We're certainly going to need a lot more of it as we head into the future.
Let's talk about energy and taxes and AI data centers.
But first, let me give out your website for those who want to follow you or even donate to help support you because we really appreciate What you bring to Texas and to our country.
It's cloud, just like it sounds, cloudforcongress.com.
And it's Congressman Michael Cloud.
And there's a donate button on the top right there for people who want to support you.
And of course, I've offered a donation as well to help you achieve what you're doing for us.
Thank you for taking our plight to D.C. But let's talk about power for Texas.
Trump announced, I think, a half a trillion dollar initiative of three companies that want to build a massive AI data center.
Not in your district, by the way, but still in Texas.
And then on top of that, some other companies have announced massive data center investments in Texas.
So then I read that, what is it, ERCOT?
That's the power group in Texas, right?
They said, well, we're going to need a lot of terawatt hours.
Oh, yeah.
How is that going to happen, Congressman?
Where's the power going to come from?
Even two years ago, I'd go speak to leaders in the energy industry, and they're all, in a sense, they were kind of arguing and debating and trying to whittle the policy.
So that their preferred area of interest, we get the bigger piece of the pie.
Now I go to them and say, we're going to need every pie that we can make.
When you look at data centers that are happening, the advancement of AI, I was talking to...
One of the tech wizards there, and he was saying an AI search, it may have gone down a little bit, but about a year ago, an AI search took about 10 times the amount of energy as a Google search.
So we're looking at exponential growth as we make advancements in these areas of technology, and so it's all going to be...
It's all going to need energy, so we're going to need all the energy we can produce.
Now, that introduces the concept once more of the importance of baseload, the importance of reliable energy.
Sometimes people talk about alternative energy.
Sometimes I like to call it intermittent energy sources.
That's a good term.
Especially here in Texas, you think we have...
We should never have to turn the lights off in Texas.
We remember a couple of years ago we had the winter freeze because too much of our grid became reliant on windmill power.
And those froze up during that.
Yeah, exactly.
So we need to be looking at reliable baseload energy.
Let's do more nuclear.
The technologies advanced way more than 20, 30 years ago.
What you can do with small modular reactors along with...
Everything else that's in the mix.
I was actually going to mention that.
I'm an advocate of nuclear energy when it's done right, just like you said.
And there are advances in designs that make it very safe, like automatic shutdowns.
With a modern design, you can't really have an over-criticality situation anymore.
It's not like Three Mile Island from the 1970s, right?
Sure, yeah.
But I think Texas needs diverse energy, and the thing about nuclear power is that you can scale it on demand.
Where you can't do that with solar, obviously, or with wind.
The wind has to blow.
But with coal, natural gas, and nuclear, you can scale up or down based on demand.
And that's what Texas needs in my...
Yeah, and I'm not totally against solar.
I do have some concerns with the fact that most of that's coming from China.
They're building coal plants to power the factories that are building solar panels to send to us as we clear out farmland to make way for solar panels.
So that's maybe an overgeneralization, but that certainly is happening.
And so we've got to think about the sense of some of these sorts of things.
And make sure, you know, each one has its right place.
And certainly in Texas that we're not building a grid that's reliant on energy that's not baseload energy.
Well, I wanted to bring this up.
I don't know if it's Raytheon.
I think Raytheon has a micro thorium reactors, next generation nuclear reactors.
There's also, there are micro reactors that can be put in kind of like a garage bay.
They can power a group of hospitals or power a military base, you know?
And you only have to replace the fuel every eight years.
It's kind of like a U.S. aircraft carrier.
The fuel rods there are good for 25 years, I think.
Oh, yeah.
Well, why don't we put one of those on land, you know?
Just like power half a city.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, that's the kind of thing that we're going to need.
And you look at these big data centers right now, they're looking at buying the power even before it gets to the meter.
Yes. So like basically buying up the power plants, everything that, so if we don't come up with some good solutions, some reliable solutions, then, you know, your neighborhood's going to be competing against data centers really for power.
Yeah. So it's going to be, which will cause prices to rise, you know.
So it's really time for us to take this seriously, for us to...
To get serious about producing energy once again.
And realize that energy is what powers advancement in society.
Again, that's human uplift.
That's people coming out of poverty.
That's mobility.
That's ability to learn, grow.
All these different kind of things in advanced society.
There's always some issues with any sort of technology or, frankly, any human activity.
But the thing we can't do is retreat into the forest and think that's the solution.
What's fascinating about this dynamic that you're describing is that the reason Tesla is building in Texas and OpenAI and SoftBank and Larry Ellison's company, Oracle, and Apple and all these others is because Texas is an energy-friendly state.
So if you're a billionaire tech guru...
And you need a data center that's consuming terawatt hours every year.
Are you going to build that data center in Washington State, Oregon State, California?
No, no, no.
They won't let you run it.
Texas is actually sitting on the new currency of the golden age of our future, which is energy.
Yeah, and freedom.
And freedom.
And we've got to protect that.
People like to be free.
It's amazing.
Imagine.
What a funny thought.
But do you think Texas is going to be able to keep pace with this influx of investment money?
And infrastructure needs and demands and new people and all of that, these can be challenges.
Yes, they're the right challenges you want to have, though.
I'll take these challenges over the ones that Detroit or Baltimore are facing right now and even California as their population decreases because the right people are moving out.
These are the challenges you want to have.
Certainly, one of the big ones is going to be water.
With energy production, we're going to need to figure out what to do with water.
We're looking at what to do in our district with that.
The state's looking to make a major investment.
We're looking at what we can do from the federal standpoint to help facilitate that, whether through streamlined regulatory process or if there's any sort of federal nexus there.
We're looking at different ways we can assist with that.
Certainly going to be one of the big challenges as we look to do this.
Energy is going to require water.
Thankfully, we're on the Gulf of America where there's an abundant supply if we can figure out what to do with it and how to make it.
Well, we actually have a lot of experience in rainwater collection.
I don't know if you know this, but this facility collects rainwater off of all the roof square footage.
And then we use that rainwater to manufacture colloidal silver products made with Texas rainwater.
And the thing about At least central Texas, is the rain all comes at once.
It's not really well dispersed.
It's drought.
Here it all comes.
We've often get enough water.
You get 50-something inches a year, but only with three rain events.
What we learn is that rainwater collection, if you have other constituents interested in this, You actually have to have very large tanks because you can't count on rain coming again next month.
You might have to go eight months.
No rain.
But if you get rainwater, you know that's the cleanest water that you can get by far.
And it's great actually for industry because it doesn't require all the treatments of well water.
Yeah, that's certainly worth looking into.
In my home, just for natural disaster's sake, we have some barrels we collect.
It's nothing as sophisticated as what you're doing, but we've always realized that when there's a natural disaster for our family, it's go time.
So we have to be ready to help others and our team to help others.
And so one of the things we've done is just had some barrels to help collect rainwater.
That makes perfect sense.
It's certainly something, that's an easy thing every family could do.
Texas resiliency.
This is a culture of really resilient people.
And friendly people, too.
You hear that all the time, right?
Yeah, exactly.
Even you're friendly.
I mean, there are members of Congress from different states that are not as easy to get along with.
Well, I'll take your word on that.
But Texas has a friendly culture and a culture of can-do attitude.
Yeah, and I think that's the big thing is realizing, you know, you go back again to what's that relationship with our government versus us.
We're free people first, and then the government's there to play a role and be one of the necessary institutions like family, church, community, all those different kind of things.
But it's not supposed to be the preeminent force in our lives every single day.
That's right.
And, you know, so certainly that ability for us to love our families and help our neighbors is, Should be the preeminent force-holding society together.
Let's talk about the faith factor for a minute.
Yeah.
Because of your background with the church and as a pastor and what we've done here through our church, which has served a lot of all the donations that we did through our church, etc.
Talk to us, if you would, about how can faith initiatives be more successful in what you're doing in D.C.?
And is there more openness to Yeah, I think one of the biggest things that, aside from personal salvation and the peace I have in knowing Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and all of that,
but from a policy standpoint, I think the biggest thing you begin to see is that there's a specific role for all these institutions in society.
And we've kind of upended the importance of those things.
The Marxist-leftist movement has tended to try to make government a god when we don't believe that it is.
It's not something to be worshipped or revered.
It has its proper place, but the family is so much more important.
It's the first institution of government.
It's the first institution of care, of compassion, of learning.
And then we create all these other institutions that are meant to support that or be extensions kind of of that.
So you have your church that helps you grow and develop a family.
You can have your schools that, with parental support, help nurture, and you bring very specific knowledge sets to kids, but it's still...
And then at each of these levels, you realize that there's a certain role.
And so you're not looking for the government to be the end-all, be-all for everything because you realize, I have a responsibility as a human, as a believer, to help society.
I don't need...
You know, one of the things I'll hear all the time is Matthew 25. It seems to be the only scripture that Democrats seem to know sometimes, you know, what you've done to the least of these.
It's like, well, who was he talking to?
And what he didn't say was, go lobby your government to give to the poor.
If you have it, you give it.
He also didn't say, go into tremendous debt and put your kids and grandkids in debt to help.
I would also remind them of Matthew 24, what happens when God is angry with your lack of faith.
Right.
So it's understanding the whole picture of this sort of thing and realizing our personal responsibility that's involved in this.
Realizing the limited role of government doesn't mean that as a person I don't have compassion about anything.
I do, and I have a personal responsibility to deal with those things.
I think that's a really important view, a very mature thinking through that.
Because we have FEMA, but when FEMA didn't exist, churches did that.
Just like we are doing just recently.
Helping people in need.
If we have good people, if we have morals that are taught and part of schools and homeschooling and church experiences, then people spontaneously do the right thing.
They don't need to be ordered to do it.
Yeah.
Well, and that's where, frankly, churches across America, we've got to step it up a little bit because I think we've forgotten to teach.
All those different things.
What's your responsibility as an individual in society?
It's got to be more than I believe in God and therefore blessings come to my life, which is a secondary thing, but it's really about we're here to help advance and build the kingdom of God.
There's a new set of principles, there's a new way of living that Christ introduced on earth that, by the way, brings blessing to your life, but it also just helps bring, it's that whole Abrahamic, you're blessed to be a blessing.
God bless us so that we can bless those around us.
Well, and it's interesting.
I know there's a whole spiritual debate about faith with or without works.
We're not going to get into that.
That could be a contentious issue.
But I believe in works.
I believe in works and faith.
My answer to Paul would have been faith and works.
Let's have faith and let's also help each other in practical ways.
And I think we're People are hurting right now.
Even some of what Doge is doing, admittedly, is going to cause a short-term economic situation because the people who were funded by the slush money don't have the slush money.
So they're not going out and spending it.
And this is a necessary change, but it's going to take time for recalibration.
There's going to be a little bit of an economic difficulty.
So some people are going to need help, but from churches, not Not like government handouts everywhere as much, you know?
Right, right.
And there's also plenty of economic opportunity.
You know, when I talk to people last year, year or two, they're number one, you know, especially when you're looking at a pro-growth economic outlook that you have under President Trump, the number one thing is, like, we need people.
And so we might have to retrain and retool some people who are working at USAID to...
This is true.
You don't work in some of these fields.
It might have to take up some new challenges.
But certainly there's a role for us to play.
Along those lines, and we're almost out of time.
I can't believe how quickly it's gone.
Thank you for sharing this time with us.
But I believe one of the challenges that Texas will be facing is that as AI agents begin to take over more job functions, like a computer desk job function, and then within the next few years we're going to have AI robots.
Tesla will be a major manufacturer probably here in Texas, and those will begin to take over a lot of labor jobs.
I believe that the skill set retraining is going to be critical to keeping people in the job market.
I mean, even in our own company, we are deploying AI right now.
We're not firing anybody, by the way, but we're augmenting them with these tools, so it's making them more effective.
Yeah, it can certainly be a scary time, and certainly I'm not, and I can't prognosticate what it's.
Definitely going to happen in AI.
I can look to history and say, with every turnover of technology, you've always had this question, will technology replace people?
And at the microcosm level, it does in a sense.
You can think of the McDonald's now, you can order your own meal where you used to have an army of people there at the front counter taking orders.
Now they have one or two.
So it does, but from a society standpoint, At large, what it usually does is empower humanity over time.
And people move into higher level jobs.
Exactly.
You like to think that's what would be happening again.
AI seems to be a little different of an animal when it comes to that.
And so we'll have to continue to see and actually monitor that.
Time to be cautiously optimistic.
I think it's an opportunity for Texas.
I see Texas as being the AI hub of America, actually.
And even Texas can be a key manufacturing base for robots that can actually help us get things done.
And I'm not talking about Skynet, Terminator robots that hunt us down.
I'm saying robots that can restock store shelves or they can...
Help an elderly person at home can be a monitor for medical emergencies or even a companion to read them stories and things like that.
Or even smaller robots out on the farm helping people homestead.
Robots can pull weeds and keep an eye on the sheep or whatever.
There's a million roles that can be helpful that are still aligned with our values.
Yeah, and one thing to keep in mind in this, too, is China is working to advance these objectives in AI and in robotics as well, and probably don't have the altruistic intent that hopefully we have here.
Well, I would rather buy, like, Tesla robots, you know?
Exactly.
So let's lead in this, and let's not throw our morals in doing so, but let's make sure that we're, you know.
We shouldn't shirk back from development because of the fear.
We just need to make sure we keep our morality in doing it and embrace it.
You can't stop technology, but you can harness it.
Anyway, Texas is well positioned.
You are just right here in the heart of it.
Thank you for all that you do, Congressman.
Myself and our audience and the other people in Central Texas, we really appreciate your voice in D.C. Keep fighting for us because we're working hard out here.
Well, thank you.
I feel like we serve the best people in the country here in this district.
The values that they care about our country, patriotic people, it's an honor to represent them and certainly happy to keep us in prayers.
We live in challenging times.
Thankfully, we're in a...
A much better spot than we were.
If you're not happy about things, just think where we were just even three months ago.
It's tremendous to think the opportunity that's before us.
But it is an opportunity, so we have a lot of work cut out for us.
We have to take action.
Time is limited.
My main concern in Congress right now is that we're going to have four great years with President Trump.
We as Congress have to make sure that we're codifying what's happening to make sure that this isn't a course correction.
This needs to be a course correction, not a four-year reprieve on some of the nefarious evil activity we've seen.
Well, you're right.
We need, and that's the hard work, is getting law.
We need law on the books.
And then ultimately a Supreme Court.
But the fact that you are so approachable and you're here spending time with me and with our audience, this speaks well for Congress, which doesn't have a strong approval rating across the board.
Not your fault, but just the shenanigans and other party people, things that have gone on.
But you're helping to improve the...
The public view of the House of Representatives.
So thank you for doing that.
We're doing our best efforts.
We appreciate you.
We really appreciate you.
And again, thank you for joining us.
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