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March 11, 2025 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Dr. Basima Williams joins Mike Adams to talk about Gut Health, Digestion and Microbiome
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Welcome to today's interview here on Brighteon.com.
This is something that's going to materially impact the quality of your life in a positive way.
And it has to do with an often overlooked area of human health, which is your gut health.
And our guest today is Dr. Bashima Williams, who is the creator of a new docuseries that's going to be airing for free at Brighteon University, which is BrightU.com.
Coming up soon, we'll give you more details about that date.
But welcome, Dr. Williams.
It's great to have you on the show today.
Thank you for joining us.
Thank you so much for having me here today, Mike.
Well, it's great to have you back.
And last time we spoke, we talked about electropollution, electromagnetic interference in human biology.
That's an area that more and more people are slowly becoming aware of.
But this area that we're talking about today, gut health, this is something that, you know, honestly, a lot of this has been known for a long time, but it's been forgotten.
People forget to think about what's in their gut and the implications on their health.
And we can talk about the second brain, and we can talk about the chemical synthesis output of the microbes in your gut.
We've got to talk about all of that, but where should we begin?
Like, what's the big picture?
Kind of, you were just sharing with me before we started here.
Let's start there.
Sure.
So in my practice, being functional, we really focus on functional medicine.
We focus on the five pillars of health and wellness.
And the five pillars are nutrition, sleep, exercise, stress management, resilience, development, and also social engagement.
And of all of that, nutrition is really kind of a...
Where I see a huge benefit.
So in walking my patients through a good anti-inflammatory way of eating and also healing their gut at the same time has really had a profound...
Impact on their health and wellness and so much so that I actually created a course because honestly I was saying the same thing over and over and over again to my patients.
So now every single one of my patients goes through this course and obviously through the years we've refined it and we've continued educating patients.
So this is really kind of feel-good gut health that was created to lay the groundwork for all the basic things that you want to do and start doing in your life on a regular basis.
Okay, so the course is called Feel Good Gut Health, and this is airing free of charge at brightu.com.
Registration is required, but no purchase is required.
It begins streaming March 22nd, and you can register for it now.
You can optionally purchase the entire course and download it and watch it at whatever schedule you want.
But, Dr. Williams, let me ask you this.
Do people, are they shocked to learn things like there are more non-human cells in your body than human cells or that what you eat affects your gut?
You and I are like, of course, but a lot of people, they think that mealtime is just entertainment, but it shouldn't affect how they feel.
So what are some of the revelations that come out of this?
First and foremost, I want to say that I have a patient bias that actually knows a lot about gut health, and they need that help.
They need the framework on how to sort of heal their gut because there's so much misinformation out there.
There's so many things, and it's not in one complete little package.
So that's what we try to create and try to do.
And you are right.
For example, Just the whole topic of leaky gut, that's really kind of picked up a lot of momentum here lately in all the different causes of leaky gut and how the gut is that one simple little tiny membrane that separates the outside world from the inside world and right on the other side of the gut membrane, the immune system, and 70-80% of your immune system.
So for people, especially since COVID, for people who are really more self-aware and trying to increase their health and wellness and their resistance, Resilience to pathogens and viruses and are opting not to get the vaccine and trying to find other ways to improve their health and wellness.
This is definitely something that they are very aware of more and more.
Well, that's outstanding to hear.
And I know there's a lot of concern out there about leaky gut issues, but also gluten.
So you hear a lot about gluten.
When I was younger, we never heard anything about gluten sensitivity.
I'll ask you the question, but I have long understood that it's not just about gluten.
There are other factors that make people more vulnerable to inflammatory, let's say, molecules in the food supply.
What's your take on gluten and what's happening?
Partial elimination diet to help with gut healing because unfortunately certain food proteins are hard to digest and if you already have leaky gut or a poor digestive system or dysbiosis, poor bacteria, overgrowth of potential pathogens, parasites and other things that are living in your body, then we really want to eliminate certain high risk, high sensitivity foods.
Gluten is one of them.
It is a protein that is really hard to digest.
Plus, when you think about gluten and you think about the denaturing and the GMO products that we now have, our body is having a really hard time breaking it down.
Now, gluten is a very common cause of a leaky gut.
Well, okay.
But keep going on that because I want to know about...
What happens when people keep eating gluten or other things that they're sensitive to?
You get gut inflammation, and then you have this connection with the mind and moods and depression.
So please talk about that connection.
Okay, so let's just break down what happens when you eat a piece of food.
Let's say you eat a piece of egg, which is another high-sensitivity food, and you chew it in your mouth, and once you swallow it, you are done.
Your job with digesting your food is done.
So whatever you do in your mouth...
All the enzymes, all that stuff, breaking it down, mechanically breaking it down.
Once you swallow, we now have to depend on your body to take care of the rest of the digestion from taking this big globular piece of protein and breaking it down into tiny little amino acids that your body can recognize.
And once your body, once it breaks it down into these little tiny amino acid, single, double, or triple chains, then it can actually go through the gut lining.
On the other side of the membrane, where your body then can utilize the nutrients, in this case, amino acids.
But what's happening more and more, and what we're seeing more and more, because of so many issues, and I can go down the entire gut lining track, what we're doing is we are not getting to the point where we're breaking down this big globular piece of protein into amino acids, and instead, this little big...
It is being broken down into tiny pieces.
But this little tiny piece of egg is actually going through the gut membrane.
And the body's immune system, 70-80% of the body's immune system is on the other side of the gut lining.
And this is where we're starting to have, you know, the body's having to attack that little globular protein because it's not in identifiable pieces.
So the biggest causes of that, starting with the stomach acid, we are...
Inundated with all these drugs, right?
PPIs and NSAIDs and alcohol and a high-sugar diet, all these things that are actually reducing the amount of acid that our stomach is able to make.
That's the first place where digestion actually starts.
And then the downstream effects of not having enough acid means we don't have great pancreatic enzymes and it affects the gallbladder function.
All these things decrease how well we can break down these tiny little micronutrients, which then ends up creating even a leakier gut, bigger holes that even more things can go through, toxins and glyphosate and viruses and all these things.
So undigested food, believe it or not, is one of the biggest causes of leaky gut and one of the biggest causes of not only leaky gut, but also why you can't heal until you completely remove it out of your diet.
Yeah, okay, you're hitting on so many important areas here.
Let me bring in something that really confirms what you just said.
Years ago when I was working on my patents for removing heavy metals from the body, I built a digestion simulator, just a mechanical device, and we would put in like a synthetic version of your stomach acid, which contains...
A small amount of hydrochloric acid.
And the pH, I believe, might be around even just 1.5 or even 2.0 or something like that.
And I realized, and I would put food in it, and then I would have it, you know, I had like a rocker and, you know, like a vortexer and things slowly over time.
And in this process, I realized that your stomach acid doesn't really...
It doesn't do that much.
It doesn't actually break everything down the way we think it does.
I was shocked at how weak stomach acid is in terms of breaking down foods because in order to really break down these foods, like in our lab, we use nitric acid.
That will turn food into liquid.
That will just completely obliterate everything and the food turn into liquid.
But you don't have that in your stomach.
If you did, you'd have a giant hole in your stomach.
So what the stomach actually has is very, very weak, even in healthy people.
It was shocking to me, but that brings in the importance of the microbes in achieving digestion.
And of course, also, you know, bile and some of the other pH changes.
But talk about the role of microbes in actually completing digestion.
Yeah, so let me just back up to, with the acid, one of the biggest jobs the stomach has.
Is to churn the food.
Yeah.
Mechanically break it up.
And then also chemically, it does break it up to some degree.
And that's why chewing is so important.
True.
Once you swallow, you're done.
And so that's why, you know, 20 times a day, 20 times every bite.
Who really does that?
But that's what we try to teach people.
I have actually tried doing that.
And it takes forever to eat.
But anyway, the other huge thing that the acid is doing is it is a chemical signal.
For the pancreas to contract and release digestive enzymes that then continue breaking down that food.
And that does work effectively.
There we go.
Yeah.
So when we are messing, I guess the bottom line is when we mess with Mother Nature, there are downstream consequences, which is why we see in people who took chronic PPIs like Omeprazole or Prilosec for a long time.
We found that they were missing many micronutrients that led to an earlier development of osteoporosis.
So it is something where we, when we as physicians prescribe a medication, we have to at least to some degree know the long-term consequences and know the long-term effects of not having a well-balanced immune system.
Now the microbiome, fully, the microbiome, We always measure something called short-chain fatty acids, which is a byproduct of what the microbiome makes.
Now, short-chain fatty acids are super important in your overall gut health, and primarily because it actually helps with fueling some of the enterocytes and the colonic mucosa, and it also helps with immune system function and things like that.
So really important that...
What you eat and what your gut microbiome is actually eating as well.
We always try to preach and tell our patients three or four cups of vegetables a day, multiple colors, the color of the rainbow, because you really are what you eat or what your gut microbiome eats.
And if you are eating crap, you are not going to make short-chain fatty acids, and you are going to have a lot of inflammatory consequences.
You know, it's interesting.
I also find that sometimes people are taking things, That really hurt their digestion, even in the natural realm.
For example, baking soda or sodium bicarbonate, which has a thousand remedy uses.
It's a miraculous substance, and it can be used for all kinds of amazing things.
But it neutralizes stomach acid, right?
So, you know, let's just...
Go ahead.
It sounds like you wanted to comment on that.
Well, yeah, so I've personally never done that, and I've never recommended it, but I will tell you the biggest problem with reflux, acid reflux, people who are suffering from it, is the lower esophageal sphincter is not tight enough, so it allows acids to come back up.
Ironically, not having enough acid in your stomach is actually a problem.
Because then, again, with the whole digestive cascade of the example we just gave.
So the lower esophageal sphincter, one of my favorite supplements to use for that is something called lemon balm because it actually has a very relaxing effect on your body and it actually helps with the lower esophageal sphincter.
Acid stays where it's supposed to stay.
The stomach lining can tolerate an acid level of about a 1 to 2. The esophagus cannot.
Going up there on a regular basis, we're going to burn up that esophagus.
And that can predispose you for something called Barrett's esophagitis, which then, you know, of course, can turn into esophageal cancer.
So eating too fast, eating the wrong foods, chronically sort of suppressing the vagus nerve and the parasympathetic nervous system because you're in fight or flight all the time, obesity, pregnancy, all that stuff.
Puts pressure on that lower esophageal sphincter pushing acid up.
So we just have to be aware of the mechanics of the cause of the problem and sort of focus on that.
And I discovered this when I was working with an accountant who only had reflux in March and April.
I, you know, I gave her some, I had learned about lemon balm.
I had given her some, I just, let's just try it.
And it actually worked.
And so since then, I've used it a lot for patients where stress is a cornerstone.
While we're working on the stress.
Wait, wait, are you saying the taxes caused the stress?
She was so busy that taxes caused her stress.
Okay, so well, another argument for ending the IRS right there, solving all kinds of health problems.
At the same time, let me just remind people that we're talking about the new program that's going to be streaming at Brighteon University, which is brightu.com.
It's called Feel Good Gut Health.
And it's from Dr. Bashima Williams here, who has many, many patients across multiple states and has thousands of hours, tens of thousands, I would suppose, of experience of treating patients over many years successfully and learning what works and what doesn't work, etc.
And that is all aggregated in this course, which you can watch for free.
Again, brightu.com is where you can register to watch the course.
That's the word bright followed by the letter U. Now, you mentioned, Dr. Williams, the vagus nerve, and so we have to talk about Ozempic.
And we have to talk about these weight loss injections that are paralyzing the vagus nerve and causing the stomach to not empty.
And some people...
Oh, this is a miraculous weight loss injection.
Let's just, you know, take a jab once a week.
Tell us about the long-term consequences of paralyzing the vagus nerve.
Well, yeah, long-term consequences, side effects of the, you know, it will affect every single aspect of the digestion, right?
So gastric emptying, motility, constipation.
Prolonged toxin exposure.
For example, when we process estrogen naturally through the liver, it gets delivered into the bile and into our stool.
And the longer it sits there, the more likely you are to reabsorb some of that estrogen.
And all of a sudden, you start becoming hormonally imbalanced and things like that.
Now, I will say there is a place for using things like Ozambic temporarily.
The problem is we become dependent on it, and the problem is we don't change behaviors.
And the underlining problem of the eating disorders and all this other stuff is definitely still there.
Weight loss is nice because it will decrease so many other weight-associated risk factors, including cancers and things like that.
I think what we're talking about here is long-term use and dependence on a drug rather than really investing the time and energy into the behavioral changes.
We actually discussed this in our course.
Yeah, no, that's the key.
I'm sorry to interrupt, but right there.
See, to me, I don't think there's ever a case to use a Zempic because it's a crutch for people who don't want to change their food choice and their habits.
And they want to keep eating the toxins that made them obese.
They still want to do all the ice cream or Pop-Tarts or donuts or whatever and say, hey, give me a magic potion or a magic injection that can somehow overcome this habit that I don't want to give up.
And the problem is all those foods are actually promoting heart disease and promoting diabetes and promoting everything.
Yeah, there's got to be some benefit from eating less of the toxic garbage.
But the real solution is to get better educated and change your food choice.
You don't need to poison your nerves in order to be healthier, right?
100%.
We really focus on smart goal setting because, unfortunately, 95% of what we do as humans, unless we're acutely aware, is done subconsciously.
So our habits really drive our behaviors.
On a regular daily basis.
So sometimes we'll even have people do something called habit trackers just to sort of monitor every act, all the activities that they're doing on a daily basis and trying to see which ones of them they were really consciously aware of and which ones they were not.
What you're going to find is a lot of your behaviors, even when you're paying attention, are done because of what you've done over day in and day out.
And so the reason why I say the temporal use of Ozembic might get people in a state of mind where they can be more hyped.
More heightened and more aware.
However, there's a lot to be said with if you were to do these SMART goals and you were to implement this healthy lifestyle, the weight loss will naturally come off.
But you're 100% right.
We do not want to be prescribing Ozembic in a person where we're not actively also focusing on the...
Gut health and the mind and the body and the spirit and all of that.
Because all we're doing is we're creating a situation where people are eating less junk rather than the normal amount of junk that they were eating.
And that is not good.
That is not the end goal that we have for patients.
We want our patients to be more aware of how food is making them feel and how food can drastically heal them.
Very often Americans, and I'm sure you've seen this in your practice, but you've helped people change and grow and mature in their behavior.
But the typical American, probably not the kind of people watching this, but the typical American wants a shortcut and they don't care about the consequences.
And I just brought up the Ozempic webpage here and I just brought up the side effects.
So this is on Ozempic.com, right?
And here it is.
Oh, it may cause...
Tumors, thyroid tumors and cancer.
It can cause problems with your stomach, problems, it can cause blurred vision, pancreatic inflammation, low blood sugar, dehydration and kidney problems.
And then if you scroll up, you're like, wait a minute, this caused kidney problems, but let me refresh it.
It says it's just been approved to treat, here it is, to treat kidney disease.
It's like, so this drug, Like almost all prescription drugs, they very often cause the very problems that they claim to treat, and you get stuck in this crazy cycle, which I'm glad that you're teaching people how to escape that cycle, but what's your reaction to this?
My reaction is there are, just like with the PPIs that we talked about earlier with osteoporosis and...
Micronutrient deficiencies and things like that.
There are consequences to everything you do, especially if it's something that now the one difference with the GLPs is your body does naturally make GLPs and there's ways that you can actually increase natural GLP production.
One of those ways, by the way, is by feeding your healthy gut microbiome healthy food because the short chain fatty acids actually help.
The enterocytes heal, which is where some of our natural GLP is made with the L cells in the gut lining.
So absolutely, there's consequences.
But the biggest thing is you have to create a mindset.
You have to work on the brain.
Our first module on Feel Good Gut Health has a lot to do with setting the right mindset.
If you don't decide you want to change...
And you aren't willing to do the new work, then doing the same thing over again, over and over and over again, it's just going to make you go insane.
You're not going to get the results you want.
And so really, there's this mindset.
But yes, listen, I've been a doctor for almost 30 years.
I've written prescriptions for a long time.
That's actually what got me out of my regular practices.
One, it was so boring and brainless that I just felt like, what am I doing?
I'm not doing my purpose in my life.
And two, I wasn't seeing real change in people.
So it's definitely a crutch.
It's definitely easier to take a cholesterol drug than it is to actually make the dietary changes that I have seen in my patients make, where I have seen amazing results, way surpassing what a cholesterol drug would do.
And this is not my opinion.
This is like actual objective data, right, with laboratory information.
So it is...
Medications can become crippling and an easy fix.
And the problem is, for years, we have taught our patients, if you have this, look at all these great solutions.
But we haven't ever talked about what we're talking about today until the last five years.
Because I've been doing functional medicine for about 15 years.
It really hasn't.
And I always thought it's not until the consumer wakes up.
That we're going to see this huge rise in functional medicine.
And that is exactly what happened.
And it took COVID to make people realize that if your body is in a sick state, when you get a virus, you are going to be sicker than the average person who isn't in a chronically inflamed state.
Yeah, good point.
Because we don't know what's coming down the line here in terms even, you know, there are bioweapons labs all over the...
Some run by the West in Ukraine and in Africa, etc.
We don't know what they're working on or what might escape the labs.
Everything seems to escape sooner or later.
But let's go back to food labels.
Let's focus on this because I know you talk about this in your course.
And I've talked about a lot of ingredients on food labels for 25 years.
What would you say, Dr. Williams, are the top ingredients to really watch out for on food labels that...
Pose the most risk to good gut health.
So when we go through reading food labels with our patients, our number one rule, and if this is the only thing you remember, this would be great.
Number one is read your food labels.
And if it sounds like a science experiment, leave it alone.
If it's not whole foods listed in it, leave it alone.
Like put it back on the shelf because your body...
A lot of those things are synthetic.
And it's just mind-boggling.
If you saw a whole bunch of red dye, would you ever drink it?
No, but if we sprinkle it on food, it'll be good for you.
And it's not good for you.
And it's actually a leading cause of leaky gut, which then once we activate our immune system, we get all these downstream effects.
And then the second rule is number of ingredients.
So really look at the number of ingredients.
Five or six or less would be ideal.
Once you have to start...
You know, adding in a whole bunch of other things, you're going, well, what am I really eating?
And then the third thing that I'm somewhat passionate about is the type of oil that's put in that food.
And a lot of the oils that are used, especially in foods that are on shelves, are highly processed and a lot of times seed oils that are also full of other chemicals.
So now you're exposing yourself to a pro, even if the three or four ingredients are good, but then you have a cottonseed oil that's...
Kind of tying everything together.
Leave it alone.
That's really good information.
Thanks for sharing that.
And let me just add something from my experience being in the food business.
And I think most people do not know this, but number one is food manufacturers are not legally required to list on ingredients labels ingredients that they use for processing the food, such as solvents, for example.
If you use a hexane-extracted nutrient, you don't have to list hexane, even if there are trace amounts of hexane left over in the food.
And there are other processing agents, and there are anti-foaming agents, and there are flow agents, and there are excipients, and there are cleaning agents that are in a lot of food that's on the shelf that are never listed on the ingredients.
And furthermore, let me ask you this, Dr. Williams, there are also Molecules such as acrylamides that are created during the cooking of carbohydrates.
And acrylamides do not need to be listed on the labels, nor do cancer-causing chemicals created during the charring of meat in barbecue, for example.
So do you also teach people that the label is really just the starting point?
It doesn't tell you everything that's in that food, does it?
No, that's why we go with, again, if you can't recognize the ingredients, don't buy it.
If it's not Whole Foods, don't buy it.
Because you know what?
Whole Foods, you can't screw up too much.
But then that's where the oils come in.
That's where I find a lot of what you just talked about is in those oils.
When I researched how oil is extracted from these seeds, I was blown away.
Chemicals are used.
You're like, well, how do they get rid of the chemicals then and separate it from the oil completely?
Honestly, I wasn't able to find anything that really convinced me that they could.
So absolutely, that's why we want whole foods and the way God made them.
That's what you want to be eating most of the time.
Do you also cover...
Yeah, you can't avoid it if you don't.
That's great advice.
Right now, beef tallow is all the rage.
Everybody, I mean, at least in conservative circles, people talking about, oh, we need to switch from seed oils to beef tallow.
And I understand that argument.
I totally get it.
So I was trying some organic beef tallow in my frying pan, and I realized I just don't like the taste of it.
I really like avocado oil much better.
Or coconut oil.
Those are two of my favorite oils.
I really love avocado oil.
But, you know, to each his own.
However, guess what?
Dioxins accumulate in animal fats.
So, who's testing beef tallow for dioxin contamination?
Nobody?
Nobody?
And I'm not trying to, you know, scare people away from beef tallow.
It does have a lot of benefits.
I'm just saying, I want to know...
Because there's a dioxin contamination level across all the fields and farms and grasses all over the country.
Because dioxins are created from house fires.
We had a lot of fires in California.
So there's a lot of dioxins all over the place.
That bioaccumulates in animal fat.
So we don't know.
Yeah, you're right.
And so again, we go back to the oils that...
For example, that we recommend, whole foods oils are still the best, even though, so avocados and olives, but we also recommend omega, also understanding that certain oils like the polyunsaturated oils are very susceptible to heat and denaturing and trying to get them in their whole food form.
So fish, we recommend eating fish at least a couple times a week.
We recommend a really smart omega-3.
Supplement if you can't because one of the things we found in our practice when we measured omega-3 to omega-6 index ratios is that people had and by the way omega-6 are the polyunsaturated fats that are mostly from the seed oils.
Now you need a little bit but those that pathway really promotes inflammation and the omega-3 pathway promotes The opposite.
So it's an anti-inflammatory pathway.
So when my patients would get COVID, one of the things I would do if it was appropriate for the patient, and it's certainly not medical advice for everyone, but if it was appropriate for the patient, I would give them four to six grams of DHA and EPA daily to really help drive down that cytokine storm because we know that omega-3 is very anti-inflammatory.
But here's the problem.
You get omega-3 that's been denatured or sitting on a shelf forever or Flax.
Flax oil is the worst.
It goes bad overnight.
We tell people only flax seeds and to grind them fresh and put them on a salad.
So we go through all of this kind of stuff in our educational series because when I talk to my patients, I need them to have that foundation.
So when we're talking about polyunsaturated oils, they already know what all that means.
And I don't have to go through what I just went through right now with you.
Of course, you already know what all that means, too.
So we really kind of stick with basics.
In terms of the saturated oils, our bodies do need some saturated oils from animal fats.
But we don't need more than one to two servings per day on average based on literature that I read.
So most of the oils we should be getting are the monounsaturated fats and the polyunsaturated omega-3 fats.
And also just keeping in mind that cooking with oils, I like to actually cook with oil as little as possible.
So if I have broccoli that I'm cooking on a stovetop, instead of cooking it with a little olive oil, I'll steam it.
I'll take it off the heat.
I'll drain the water, put it back on in the pan without heat, and just drizzle a little olive oil and a little lemon squeeze, a little salt and pepper if I want.
And that is perfect.
And the difference in taste really is any kind of heat will denature oil.
And so we're trying to reduce heat as much as possible in general.
But certainly when you're cooking with oil, always try to cook at the lowest temperature.
And you know, there's refined and unrefined avocado oil.
The unrefined avocado oil.
And there's different burning temperatures of all of those things.
So you really have to know how to cook with oil to really cook with oil.
So really, definitely churn down the heat as much as possible is what we teach our patients.
We also don't want our patients living in fear, but we want you to be educated so that when you're in the kitchen cooking, you have confidence in it.
Yeah, really good point.
And if you smell smoke, it's way too hot.
That's for sure.
Yeah.
Since we're talking about oils, a couple other questions.
There's also a lot of counterfeit olive oil, as you well know, in the marketplace.
I visited an olive oil, well, an olive orchard in Wimberley, Texas.
And they produce olive oil that's real pungent, spicy.
You can really taste it.
And the store-bought olive oil tastes nothing like that at all.
It's not even close.
It's a pale shadow of it.
But the other question is about the marketing of oils.
So I've seen in grocery stores numerous times salad dressings that say olive oil salad dressing.
And then you look at the ingredients, the number one ingredient is canola oil.
That's right.
So it's a fraud.
I mean, oh, well, the second ingredient is olive oil.
So it's like 90% canola, 10% olive, and the olive might be fake anyway, so you probably have like 1% olive oil.
The label says olive oil salad dressing.
Talk about that.
Yeah, absolutely.
It's the cheapest way to go, right?
And so that's what we're going to do.
At the end of the day...
At the end of the day, it's all about how much money a company can make and what's cheapest and what's best for them in that degree, but also what tastes good and what people are going to want to buy it.
So if we can put a little olive oil in and advertise that we have olive oil in this, then of course it's going to sell more because everyone knows olive oil is good for you.
A couple things with olive oil, you want to smell it.
It should smell kind of like that spicy hot.
You can put it on your tongue and it should give you a little bit of a kick real through.
Olive oil.
And then also look for containers that are dark and small batches, not a big, huge container of olive oil because it does go bad.
And also, and keep it and store it out of the heat.
But the other thing is you want to look for an olive oil that says first pass olive oil.
And then, you know, because they can process these olives over and over chemically, not chemically, mechanically over and over again.
You want the first.
And those are going to be a little bit more expensive, but you don't have to use as much either.
And it's really fragrant, and it tastes so different.
I get some from Greece, and I get it imported by the case.
It's actually cheaper than buying it in a grocery store that way.
Wow.
Okay, really great conversation about oils.
And this is really critical because seed oils are so pro-inflammatory.
And inflammation leads to so many problems.
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So let's talk about...
Well, I want to ask you about longevity.
And there's a lot of buzz about anti-aging, but there seems to be a real technological...
Oh, we have to have nanobots injected into your body in order to reverse the chromosomal damage, whatever.
Can you talk about just living well with food?
I don't call it anti-aging.
How about aging well?
How about that?
Yeah, absolutely.
Our whole focus is on longevity at the cellular level.
So we really focus on...
What we can do anti-aging wise at the cellular level, because if your cells are healthy, then you're healthy and you're more energetic and things of that nature.
And it just reminds me of this one patient I just recently saw who since 2011, she had a horrible medical experience in 2011, antibiotics for like 13, 14 weeks, just horrible, horrible situation.
But since 2011, can you believe it, Mike?
Since 2011, she has felt...
Let's just say really crappy, really tired.
If she did anything for a day, she's on disability now.
She used to be an amazing professional.
So I had seen her and before we even had any of the test results come back yet or anything else, I had had her watch these videos and she watched them in one week.
She just kept going and she didn't stop until she finished.
And then she actually implemented everything that she learned.
And she sent me a message within a week of seeing her telling me that she was able to dream again for the first time since 2011. That's a really big deal because if you're able to dream, that means there are certain body processes that are being balanced again.
Yeah, no kidding.
And so she was so out of balance that she couldn't even, one, sleep well to begin with, but two, to dream.
And she couldn't believe she was dreaming.
And she has continued to dream by then.
I don't even have all of her test results yet back and things like that.
But this is the profound effect of doing some really simple things, which is why I had to create these videos because I wanted to share it with everyone.
Number one, you have to sleep seven to eight hours every night.
It's restorative.
In medicine, we learned that when you're sleeping, especially between midnight and 4 a.m., you're making more natural killer cells that will help defend you during the day.
Your brain gets a rest.
Your body's restoring.
Your cells are restoring themselves and getting ready for the next day.
Stress reduction and stress resilience.
And we talked just a little tiny bit about the gut-brain access connection.
And man, what a profound system that is and how it controls so many things.
When stress is entering your body, it doesn't just suppress the vagus nerve, but it heightens your sympathetic nervous system, your fight or flight.
And it also acts through the endocrine system by releasing cortisol.
Both of those have a profound effect on the gut and therefore nutrient digestion and all these other secondary things, right?
So stress resilience.
Nutrition, super important.
Sleep, super important.
Exercise, not over-exercise.
Like I have some patients that over-exercise.
But man, just get out in nature and grounding.
We talk about that a lot.
These are all very simple and free things that every single one of us can do.
And before I would get into the nano-injections and peptides and all this other stuff, I would get the basics right first.
Yeah, I'm not signing up for the nanobot anti-aging vaccine or whatever.
Let's talk about RFK Jr. is now Secretary Kennedy, head of HHS, which oversees FDA, CDC, NIH, etc.
What do you suppose that he can do or his agency can accomplish in the realm of food to help improve the health of the American people?
I can tell you right now that He is very acutely aware of leaky gut.
He knows what it is.
I've talked to some people with the Autism Association that I'm actually doing a little talk for in San Diego in April, and they are very acutely aware of the association of leaky gut and all these downstream consequences, whether it's migraines or mental cognitive changes, fatigue, skin rash, whatever it is.
But it all starts with our nutrition.
If we can get our nutrition right, then we will have all these, you know, opposite of all the diseases, we're going to have health and wellness.
Okay, but what, so policy-wise though, what kinds of things could make a difference?
So I personally, if I was in his shoes, what I would really be focusing on is getting rid of things like glyphosate.
All these toxins that we're putting on our food.
When we see these toxins being sprayed on our food, we have to have some awareness that we will be ingesting that ourselves.
And if it's causing, I remember when I was little and we lived behind a field and seeing these grasshoppers that were jumping everywhere and all of a sudden they would get sprayed and they would become paralyzed and just lay there on their backs.
And I remember thinking as a kid, Well, if it's doing that to them, what's it doing to us?
So that would be the number one thing I would do.
I would probably also start to really affect education, trying to educate as many people as I can.
I had a patient who was only four years old and weighed 150 pounds.
What?
Yes.
And I asked the parents, what did he eat?
I was trying to educate the parents.
And this is obviously a long time ago before I had the functional practice.
It was a family medicine practice.
And I asked the parents, what are you feeding him?
They're like, what do you mean what are we feeding him?
Okay, just tell me what he ate yesterday.
And I remember he had two hot dogs at a fair in addition to a lot of other things.
And I just remember thinking, oh my gosh, two hot dogs?
I couldn't even process that because that's so processed for a little kid.
But when I tried to get the family the help that they needed, they actually turned me in.
So there needs to be some accountability to these parents for raising their children in a way where it's putting them at risk for so many things because our kiddos don't know.
So there needs to be some kind of policy and education around it where we're really educating and also we're limiting access to...
Everywhere you go, there's fast food places nowadays.
And so really limiting access to some of that, decreasing the toxic exposure in our food, and really encouraging and educating on how food makes you feel.
What I find is it's really easy for me to get my patients to do what I want them to do, partly because they're suffering.
And they've made the association of lifestyle causes the suffering.
I could either take a drug.
Or I could change my lifestyle.
So my patients want to change their lifestyle.
And once they're educated, in terms of like just what we just talked about, what kind of oil to use, that's an easy change.
You make that change and you start reading labels and you start putting whole foods into your body.
So I would say decreasing toxin exposure both...
Chemically and in our foods, like all the dyes, and also what's being sprayed on our crops.
I would also try really to attack the GMO industry in terms of all the genetically modified foods and trying to go back to what nature created.
Well, the number one food that's genetically modified would be GM corn.
And corn is also subsidized by the government.
So there's an incentive for...
Farmers to grow corn and companies to use corn, and this is why we have corn in a thousand products, including corn syrup and high fructose corn syrup, etc.
And corn is also, for many people, it's also an inflammatory allergen, isn't it?
Very much so, not to mention that particular type of sugar, the fructose, is very detrimental to our health and is a leading cause of what we see nowadays in our medical practice, which is the non-alcoholic.
Fatty liver disease, which we used to never see in our practice.
When I first started seeing patients in the 90s, that wasn't something we saw.
We saw alcoholic cirrhosis.
And now we're seeing fatty liver cirrhosis because of the fats you're eating.
And primarily one of the worst ones, sorry, not from the fats you're eating, it's from the sugar that's being converted into and stored as fat units within the liver.
So one of the worst sugars that does that is fructose.
So then, back to policies, I'm sorry to keep pressing you on this point, but there has been a suggestion that food stamps, or the SNAP program as it's called federally, should no longer be allowed to be used by food stamp recipients to purchase soda pop, for example, or sugary cereals, things like that.
And at first glance, I mean, it does seem insane.
saying why why are why are taxpayers funding other people to spend taxpayer money on obesity ingredients you know what i mean so would you support a ban like that that would be really i would have to really look into something like that i I would have to really think about that a little bit longer than what I would be able to in the show, primarily because I would want to see how it affects people.
Let me just tell you, my family owned grocery stores growing up, so we took a lot of food stamps and really worked with...
Patients and people in general who were really in poverty.
Now, food stamps back then, people were buying whole foods, but also there's ways around it.
Back then it was paper food stamps, so you could buy something and your change would be in cash and then you can go and spend that however you want to.
There's just so much around this, but my number one priority would be to...
We can force people to do something or we can educate them and allow them to make that change themselves, which would be forever lasting.
And if we as consumers, and I think, you know how I said five years ago, we started seeing this big push because of COVID towards functional medicine and the demands of patients who want more.
I think we're also going to start seeing this big push from patients when they start to realize.
And people in general, when they start to realize, I really would want to work on mindset rather than force someone into something.
Because unfortunately, if you want that box of sugar cereal, you're going to get that box of sugar cereal one way or another.
Okay, Dr. Williams, let me clarify that I'm not talking about forcing people to not purchase those products.
I'm saying we shouldn't be incentivizing them with other people's money.
So we are subsidizing poison.
And then we end up paying the health care costs associated with the diabetes, the heart disease, the cancer.
So we pay 100 times more on the back end with Medicare and Medicaid.
So that seems insane.
Now, if parents want to go out and buy Pop-Tarts themselves and feed their 4-year-old a case of Pop-Tarts every day, yeah, that's their choice.
I'm not going to say that should be outlawed, but we shouldn't be subsidizing it is all I'm saying.
We should definitely not be supporting that action.
I agree with you 100%.
And we should not be subsidizing corn, especially not in this day and age.
Right.
I appreciate where it may have been important, but now there's these loopholes.
If I make more corn, so then we're going to stop at nothing.
We will stop at nothing that will hinder us from making more corn.
So we will use the best genetically modified seals that will increase the yield of crop the most.
Irrespective and irregardless of what it's actually causing to the human health and wellness down the road.
So when you're a farmer, that's what your motivation will be.
And if you're a businessman or woman and you're a farmer, you're going to do that.
You're going to find the most...
How can you get the most yield?
You'd be silly not to, right?
And so the problem is that incentive needs to go away in order to get these...
I don't recall who said this, but show me the incentives and I'll show you the outcomes.
It's really that clear.
Okay, we're about to wrap this up, but I want to give you an opportunity to mention there are numerous bonus items that you've included in your course for those who do choose to purchase it and support what we're doing here.
You've got 20 plus resources.
I've got the list here, but are there any that you specifically want to mention or should I go through the list?
Well, we have the e-book.
So we have the whole course in a book form for people who want to follow it through a book, which a lot of my patients like to take notes.
And so that was birthed out of doing this class over and over and over again and people wanting, you know, the slides.
And a lot of times it's to show their loved ones.
Like we have a slide that we created with the tree of life, which on the top part of the tree, the leaves with all the...
All the illnesses and diseases, but in the root of the trees where all the root causes of these diseases are and where we focus our time and energy.
Of course, there's no money looking at root cause and underneath what's on the bottom.
You know, in terms of pharmaceuticals.
So there's no money to be had, but true healing happens in the roots.
So we have diagrams like that that our patients have wanted over the years.
So we included it.
We created an e-book for that.
We also included 20 extra handouts.
Some of the handouts are things like the SMART goal setting, changing your mindset.
We have you do a personality assessment test to find the characteristics of your personality that are the strongest.
So you can use those characteristics to really help empower you to make changes that are everlasting in your own life.
So we go through all of that.
We also have recipe cards.
These recipe cards are from my kitchen.
They're recipes that I've made for years.
To help sustain my family in health and wellness, my daughter who's coming home today from college for Easter break, spring break, she can't wait to get home to eat real food, which is really sad that college is, you know, and we have a lot of vegetables and fruit in our refrigerator, so it's not like we've got a pantry full of junk food or sugary foods and things like that.
And also, I do a lot of work with EMF, and we included an EMF blanket.
That's kind of a big deal because we just want people to start increasing their self-awareness of the EMF toxicity.
Yeah, really good point.
We talked about that in more detail in a previous interview.
But there's a lot that is offered through your course.
I want to encourage people to sign up and at least just watch it for free.
It's at brightu.com.
It begins streaming March 22nd through the 27th.
And again, free with registration to watch the entire course.
One episode each day is on a continuous loop.
And then there's all those bonus materials if you choose to purchase it.
And thank you for supporting us.
And also, Dr. Williams, thank you for taking the time to join us today.
It's been a great conversation.
Very, very informative.
Thank you.
Thank you, Mike, for having me.
It's been my pleasure.
It's been a lot of fun.
I love to talk with people like you who are well-informed about nutrition, health, and food.
So we'll talk again soon, and have a great day.
Thank all of you for watching.
I'm Mike Adams here at Brighton.com.
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