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March 6, 2025 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Decentralize TV - Interview with Zach Vorhies about Big Tech censorship, AI, robots and decentralization
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Welcome to today's episode of Decentralized TV here on Brighteon.com, the free speech video platform.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon, and I'm joined, of course, by my co-host, Todd Pitner.
Welcome, Todd.
Always great to have another show together.
Great to see you.
We've been off for a week, so this feels great.
Thank you.
Oh, and it's going to be really great when people find out who our guest is today.
Yeah.
Because he's known as the Google whistleblower, and he's the author of the book called Google Leaks, which is at googleleaksbook.com here.
He's been called an American hero by Robert F. Kennedy Jr., and I definitely confirm that description.
Our guest today is Zach Voorhees, the Google whistleblower.
Welcome, Zach.
It's great to have you back.
Mike, it's great to be back on the show.
We always love having you on, and what I love about you is that not only did you work at Google and you experienced All the insanity there.
I mean, you wrote a whole book about it.
But you keep up with technology.
You know what's happening.
You see the trends.
You're working in AI right now and other projects as well, data science projects.
So you're really on the cutting edge.
So I'd like to start out by just asking you today, with the new administration, the Trump administration in power, the FTC says they're going to investigate censorship by big tech.
And other agencies are getting involved as well.
That some of the things you pointed out about Google's abuses are going to get addressed.
Look, with the new Trump administration, there's a new sheriff in town, right?
Like, Daddy's back in town, he's got the belt.
And, you know, Google was running essentially militarized propaganda for one side on the left.
And, you know...
Probably a lot of this was funded by USAID. Probably a lot of intelligence assets like the FBI, as we saw in the Twitter files, also made it into Google.
And a number of unknown Chinese sleeper agents that are embedded in the company as well.
And I think that a lot of this censorship is going to reverse.
Google is starting to admit in its correspondence with the Texas Senate.
That they were employing artificial intelligence to remove what they called, quote, misinformation.
And as we're getting this light shined on all of the censorship, we're starting to realize more and more that this wasn't just a bunch of independent people within the company.
This was a collaboration of censorship between the United States and a big tech company.
And that is coming to an end right now.
And so I think that a lot of the censorship is going to be rolled back, especially now that Trump is in office.
A lot of these DEI programs and basically leftism in general is receding with this new era that we find ourselves in.
But what about the issue of vaccines, for example?
If I upload a video to YouTube right now...
And I talk about vaccines in any way that's critical of vaccines.
Of course, they ban the video and they make you want to go through an online re-education camp about vaccines.
Of course, that censorship violates freedom of speech in the classical sense.
Do you think that Google and YouTube will be forced or maybe fined into allowing criticism of vaccines or criticism of other topics that we're not allowed to talk about?
Okay, so here's my thoughts on vaccines, right?
Like, we saw a lot of federal agents coming in and putting their thumb on the scale when it came to election information, which a lot of it deemed misinformation surrounding the 2020 elections and the allegations with a lot of evidence that there was fraud going on in the swing states.
You know, I think a lot of that stuff is going to go away.
The trouble that I've...
That I find with the vaccine debate is that this doesn't seem to be government censorship regulation.
Sure, there is the CDC and the World Health Organization, but it looks like it's at least partially still intact because I think that a lot of this is actually funded by money from big pharma going to tech companies.
And so I think that what we're going to see over the next six months is a continuation of a lot of the vaccine stuff.
With, you know, oh, is it harmful or not?
They're going to say, oh, it's totally not harmful.
A lot of that research that's showing that it wasn't harmful was basically funded by the deep state.
And as a lot of this stuff gets reviewed, there's going to be sort of a long-term demolition of, you know, these safety studies as it's going to be revealed that a lot of it actually did come from the government.
Because the government wasn't funding, in my opinion, Google directly, I think that a lot of this vaccine narrative is going to take a while to change.
Yeah, the government was laundering censorship through NGOs, some of them overseas, and then those NGOs were pressuring big tech.
This is all in our lawsuit, and we've sued Google and X and so on.
But yeah, I agree with you, Zach.
I think it's going to take some time.
Todd, you want to...
Jump in.
I know you always have really interesting questions for our guests.
Yeah, Zach, nice meeting you.
First time interviewing you.
Hey, while we know that government corruption is as common as diabetes on a cruise ship, and we know that the Bushes and the Clintons, they were just the warm-up band for Obama opening the portals of hell, there are certain brave souls providing Providentially, I believe, that are called the White Hats, right?
And both you and Mike here, Mike Adams, I believe, are two of them.
And frankly, to do what both of you do takes a giant set of huevos, or to coin a Doge employee reference, big balls.
Zach, amongst all the Google employees, you were the only one with a set big enough to blow the whistle on Google's corrupt censorship practices.
So my question is this.
Why take that risk?
Why become a white hat?
What drove that decision?
You know, I feel this was a once in a lifetime opportunity to stop the takeover that was coming.
My hope was that Trump was going to see a re-election in 2024. Really didn't happen because of the actors and the issues that I actually brought up originally with my Google leak disclosure, which is that there was a deep state embedded within Google.
They were re-ranking the entire internet using artificial intelligence called machine learning fairness.
And that kind of continues to this day.
We are getting a lot of exposure and sunlight poured onto that.
Well, Zach, the machine learning fairness, which the first time I heard that term was from you years ago.
You've been talking about that for quite some time.
But you're right.
Google has continued to wipe out human knowledge.
But AI, as you know, especially open source decentralized models, which we strongly support here, it's aligned with our show.
In many cases now, it makes Google obsolete.
What do you see as the shift from cloud-based search engine queries to local LLM-based knowledge?
How powerful will that be, or how will it accelerate?
Why even use the search engine if you can just get an answer?
It was this really interesting talk by Eric Schmidt, former CEO of Google, where he said that...
When Google gives 100,000 search results, it really should only give one.
So whenever someone uses their service, there's 999,000 bugs on the display.
And people were like, what the heck is going on?
And now here we are.
With artificial intelligence, you ask it what you want to find out, and it gives you one response.
My question is, where is that going to leave searching for anything?
Especially since search results have gotten really bad because of the introduction of AI-generated spam.
It seems that it might be on its last legs, especially with all the filtering and ranking, which means that if you aren't part of the top, you're going to be on the back pages or not even show up at all.
What I really think is the future of Google is that they've got an antiquated system.
Which apparently is a money printing press.
Though I don't really know anybody that actually buys anything through a Google ad.
And I think that what we're going to find out is that Google's got a lot of shadow money coming in through its ad department.
And the question is, for political purposes.
And the question is, what happens when people stop using these search engines and start using artificial intelligence?
The answer is that both Google's reach and influence is going to go down.
And as a result, the printing press is going to shut down for the company.
And you can already see what's going on.
They reorganized and put all of their intellectual portfolio into Alphabet, Inc.
Google is now an owned entity of Alphabet.
Same thing with YouTube through its...
Parent company, Google.
It's a fully-owned subsidiary.
And what it looks like to me is that the people that run the show are getting ready for Google to be kind of hacked apart, like, you know, let's say Bell Labs or AT&T, you know, over half a century ago.
Standard oil, right?
Like, you know, they're structuring the company so that if it got, you know, broken up...
You could hack off YouTube as its own company.
It's a fully owned LLC. It's not part of Google.
It's not like we have to separate YouTube from Google.
It's already separate and acting under its tech management.
I think that what's going to happen is that as Google gets completely obsoleted and it becomes apparent that they are going to fail, I think that the cabal, whatever you want to call them, are going to step in.
And do a regulatory play.
Find out that Google was super evil.
And then this is going to justify breaking them up within the media.
And that's going to happen.
And then the government's going to say, well, you know, we actually stopped all the badness of Google, but in reality, probably would have just gone away at the zone.
And the government's going to be able to, you know, have that scalp and then turn around and say, Oh, now we have this mandate.
We need to start regulating other big tech companies.
I think that's pretty much how Google is going to end up.
Wow.
Wow.
A fascinating analysis, Todd.
Your reaction to that?
I mean, this is actually really great to hear in one sense.
It is.
It is.
But, Zach, you referenced the deep state.
You referenced shadow money.
I'm always curious when guests do that.
Who is the deep state in your mind?
Is that something that you can put your thumb on, or is it just so elusive that we'll never know?
I don't know.
I mean, like the baking cartel, the adultery industrial complex, look like, you know, in the fast food market, there's like a dominant position, right?
Like the top dominant position owns like one-third of the market, and then the second one owns 15, and then the rest of the 15% is like pretty much divvied up between the other, you know, incumbents.
And, you know, why should Google not, or why should the deep state or the people in control of the world have all the money, why wouldn't that follow the exact same natural law that expresses itself throughout all states of competitions, that you have dominant players?
And, you know, it's essentially the dominant players that are, you know, standing behind, you know, the deep state, Google.
I believe that they're now pulling us in the other direction with a Trump reset instead of a Klaus Schwab reset.
But, you know, I don't really want to get too far into the deep state because it's a rude thing to bring up in any country.
Like, who really runs Russia?
Like, not a good dinnertime conversation, but, you know, the evidence is out there and a lot of people that, you know, start noticing things can sort of figure out, you know, what this deep state is and how they operate.
And, you know...
There's not really any good guys.
It's more like they're obeying natural law and they're basically using their power and influence in order to perpetually stay in power, which seems to be getting stronger, not weaker, over the last eight years.
It's a self-reinforcing cycle of power.
Zach, I've got a follow-up question for you on the obsolescence of Google search in the age of AI. Reasoning models.
The reasoning models do things that search engines could never do, even with the best search algorithms.
A simple example is, I was asking DeepSeek R1, running on my desktop, how long will it take for this water tank, a 1,000-gallon cylindrical water tank made of fiberglass?
How long will it take for it to freeze?
And here's the starting temperatures and the wind speed and the air density, etc.
And it can figure it out, right?
It can give me how many hours, how many minutes.
No search engine can do that.
So now that we're entering the age of cognition, where cognition is available for essentially free, or the cost of a few watts of power on your desktop, what does this mean?
Not only about search engines, but about all the cognitive experts that would do things like hiring attorneys to write letters for you.
You don't need an attorney to write a letter.
You just ask your AI to do it.
They're kind of screwed.
Let's say you need to do something highly complex with a document that needs to be specifically formatted like a government document or let's say you're trying to change the Python programming language.
Highly technical and essentially this structural barrier prevents a lot of people that aren't serious from getting in there and making changes.
With artificial intelligence you can Structure all that for basically free.
You want to create a legal letter to a company, say you're going to bring this to the Better Business Bureau or sue them.
You can just do that typing in a few things, dumping all your data, and then telling the AI to make sense of it all.
It's going to be able to spit that out.
This is basically almost like a fall of the Berlin Wall, but on an intellectual space.
Because now we really can't separate the people that have a tight grasp of the domain-specific stuff and somebody that just put in an answer or a question into an artificial intelligence bottle and got a response, and then it's just parroting what that is.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
And let me bring up this point, and Todd, I'll turn this over to you.
I'm actually asking both of you this question.
When the GDP of a nation is defined as The amount of dollars that exchanges hands for products and services.
But when AI means that many of those services can be produced locally for zero dollars, so instead of paying an attorney $300 an hour or whatever to generate a letter, that creates GDP. If I ask my local AI model, DeepSeek, to do it for free, no dollars exchange hands, the GDP doesn't show that.
The GDP won't show AI counseling, AI attorney activities, AI engineering, AI coding, right, Zach?
The GDP won't show that anymore.
So the GDP itself begins to lose meaning as an accurate marker of economic activity in the age of nearly free cognition.
So Todd, to you first, your reaction to that, and then Zach, please.
What do you think, Todd, about that question?
I just get, I start wondering about garbage in, garbage out, right?
So which AI are we talking about?
Which one are we querying?
DeepSeek obviously seems to be honest in comparison with ChatGPT, so to speak.
So, you know, I think everything is going to reside around people who...
Really understand that prompt engineering is going to be the secret weapon.
If you are good at that, then you are going to be able to produce...
Very convincing documentation, business plans, threatening letters, legal letters, or whatever.
So I don't know if that answered your question, Mike, but I just was thinking about the garbage in, garbage out, and that you have to be very careful on which search engine you use, and also you have to really start paying attention to what does it mean to be a prompt engineer, and I think we'll review that thoroughly.
Sure.
Okay, Zach, your take on all that.
What was the question again?
Well, my initial question was about the meaning of GDP when a lot of life-enhancing transactions no longer involve dollars, but rather simply local cognition.
Yeah, yeah.
So, look, the GDP is basically acting as a collateral on the degree that we can have money loaned out, right?
If our GDP were to collapse, then so too would our ability to pay the loan that we owe the Federal Reserve, etc., etc.
People say, well, the United States dollar is going to collapse or the United States is going to collapse.
There's a couple ways out of this debt problem that we have.
And one of them is to just simply expand the GDP, at least the fake GDP. To astronomically high levels, right?
Now, how close it's going to match the actual productivity outputs that we're going to gain, it remains to be seen.
I think that the GDP will actually be overestimated as all this AI stuff comes online.
The problem with the AI stuff is that a lot of it is invisible consumables, right?
If I produce a lot of chairs, you're going to see all that go through the supply chain and everyone's going to report that their inventory is moving faster and sales are up.
But with a lot of this stuff with artificial intelligence software, it's really hard to even pinpoint what exactly it is that you're consuming because the products are copyable.
At least from the supplier standpoint.
That's the great thing about software is that you make it once and then it starts scaling independently.
You just got to hire a sales team.
And so it's going to be really hard to figure out what exactly GDP means because the new economic system, as it heats up, doesn't necessarily mean it's going to consume a lot more wood or steel or concrete.
And so a lot of these proxy signals that we're using to measure a robust economy are going to have to be tweaked.
I think that's going to be a more useful metric in the future.
Simply, how much energy does a society use?
Yeah, good point.
GDP, gross domestic petabytes, is what it might become.
But I'm even thinking about in the very near future with AI robots that do all the basic mechanical things that you need.
For example, you won't take your car to have an oil change at a car dealer because your robot will change the oil.
It's not that complex.
You won't have to hire an HVAC repair person.
Because your robot will fix it, or your robot will do electrician's work, or plumbing work, or cook your meals, do the dishes, whatever.
I mean, these models are coming online very, very quickly right now because of the help of AI and NVIDIA's robot simulation digital Earth where everything can be tested out with physics models in a digital space.
So we're going to have increased quality of life but plummeting economic activity What you just said makes sense, Zach, except I don't want my robot to be talking to the cloud.
I want an offline, open-source robot, mostly one that I can beat up if I have to, if it goes awry.
Never have a robot that is stronger than you is one of my rules of thumb.
Either one of you, your thoughts.
Yeah, so...
The robots are going to be pretty strong.
A lot of this AI gets its intellectual ability from being able to basically talk back to the web.
It's like, hey, what movies are playing?
You're going to need to have internet connectivity for these robots to go on.
So this whole thing about offline robots is very interesting.
Now, I do think that there is going to be a strong demand for offline robots, especially within the elite class.
We can't inspect everything in these AI models.
Sometimes they go insane, especially when you repeat yourself in a question over and over and over again.
And it gets into these weird latent spaces.
And hiding in one of these latent spaces could be an assassination code.
Almost like an MKUltra.
Here's a certain thing, or it gets an internet connection and says, oh, you need to kill your companion now.
And the AI goes ahead and does that.
I feel like these elites are going to want to have an offline robot.
They're going to want the robot.
They're not going to want that robot to kill them.
There's going to need to be an auditing system.
We're going to call it MK Ultron.
I love it.
Yeah, that's the upcoming threat.
Todd, are you going to get a kill bot in your house to do dishes?
No, I'm not.
I do want to ask you both, are you concerned at all with the advancement of AI and the robots and having the tech be more accessible to most of us?
Is there a risk that we just stop becoming a thinking population, that we just outsource all of our, you know, all the cognition?
And I don't know, that concerns me a little bit.
Well, Zach, I'll give it to you, but...
Ever since I've started using AI, I've had to work my brain harder than ever before.
What about you?
Yeah, likewise.
Interacting with artificial intelligence is absolutely exhausting because you go from a lot...
When I program, there's high-level thinking of how I want to design the system out, and then there's a lot of implementation, and it's usually like implementation takes 90% of the work.
With AI, you can move so fast on implementation that you start facing these architectural problems full-time.
And as a result, it's just exhausting to be at this high level essentially all the time.
In terms of outsourcing cognition, absolutely.
People may not be able to write very well in the future.
Since they know that you can just shove everything, grunt a few ways, and then have the AI turn it into a fantastic legal letter, you don't have to struggle to figure out how to get it right.
On the other hand, AI is a fantastic tutor.
I know that as I search for answers and stuff, it reveals to me things that I've just been blinded to, especially in programming, for example.
You get all these little tricks.
That you can apply, and a lot of them, the patterns I didn't really realize, and then you get with the AI, and it's telling you all these things that you just didn't know.
And in a way, you can become more knowledgeable in a domain space because you're using artificial intelligence.
You can ask an AI engine to create a syllabus on any topic that you want to learn.
And this actually leads me to one of my last questions for this segment.
This is kind of a shorter segment today.
But Zach, In your view, what's going to vanish from society, or let's say approach vanishing, like teachers or schools because of AI? What's going to vanish in your view?
Work.
Work's going to vanish.
There's no need for all the human labor.
We're going to move to an AI-centered economy.
There's nothing that's going to stop that.
Even if we were to stop that in the United States, it's still going to continue because China's doing it.
We'd have to basically get...
And so, you know, it's very troubling to see that human labor will no longer be the center of the, you know, economic system.
Because at that point, you know, what good do the elites have for, you know, all these hungry mouths that complain about civil rights?
Maybe, you know, in the future they say, well, there's too many people in the world and they've got the drone kill guns and, you know, kamikaze drones that explode when they get close to your head.
And, you know, we're going to basically have guns and pitchforks.
Not a very good scenario for us.
We're going to be at the mercy of these elites.
And so I think that that's going to, you know, that disappearance of...
Our necessity for the state is going to be a really big existential threat.
Yeah.
Good assessment, Todd.
It's almost like the technocrats have been planning this for over 100 years.
It's almost like it's already begun in some ways.
They're clearing the way for the rise of the robots.
But we're about to wrap up this segment.
Todd, do you have any final question for our guest?
Yeah, it just seems like Trump is becoming a real, you know, table turner of the money changers.
He's going in and bowling a china shop, and I think we all appreciate that.
How worried should we all be that Trump gets, I'm just going to ask, gets assassinated for delivering a true viable blow to corruption?
I think it's almost zero chance of that happening.
You know, even if Trump, I mean, even if Trump got assassinated, The Trump presidency would probably still live along with some sort of convincing body double.
It's not that it's Trump that's running this system.
It's the people behind him that are running the system expressing it through a figurehead.
There's a lot of changes going on.
I don't think the assassination risk at this point is high.
They'd have to explain that whole thing.
Maybe a rogue individual can get in there and sort of do something that the deep state didn't plan on.
But, yeah, I think that right now we're in a Trump-style reset, not a Klaus Schwab-style reset.
So let's bring it on.
Yeah.
Yeah, it certainly is.
You can see a reset coming.
You can see all the panicked gold purchases.
I think they're trying to restock the Federal Reserve gold reserves before the audits come because it hasn't been there for decades.
But it's going to be an interesting time.
Zach, I want to thank you for taking time today.
For our show, Decentralized TV, and for our audience, yes, this is a short segment, but stay with us.
We'll be back after this break with the after-party discussion, and we just want to thank our guest, Zach Voorhees, and his book is called Google Leaks, a Whistleblower's Expose of Big Tech Censorship.
That's at googleleaksbook.com.
You can also follow Zach at...
Perpetual Maniac on X. Perpetual Maniac is his handle, and he's got great posts.
I follow him on X as well.
So thank you so much, Zach, for joining us today.
Thank you very much, Mike.
All right, stay tuned, folks.
We'll be back after this break.
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All right, welcome back, folks, to the After Party.
And Todd, you know, as always, I love our guests for the show.
We have some really great people.
Zach Voorhees is absolutely brilliant.
And his perspective is very valuable.
It is.
I'm just thrilled to have him as a guest.
I also want to say that we have another interview with him coming up as part of a new docuseries that we're going to be releasing together.
Very exciting.
And the docuseries, I can't give out the name yet, but the docuseries is about practical steps to reestablish your freedom by decentralizing from the control grid system, essentially.
Absolutely.
If you're going to decentralize your life, you need a game plan.
And we intend to be able to provide you a practical game plan to do that.
It's going to be, you know, must-see TV. Yeah, and it'll stream for free also at brightyou.com when it's released.
It's still a few months out, but we'll have experts on finance, experts on technology like Zach, experts on food and permaculture, decentralized food production, decentralized medicine, decentralized education, decentralized money, obviously, but really practical stuff.
Right, right.
Yeah, and I'll just share this publicly.
One of my own self-criticisms of This show, and I noticed this just watching one of our previous episodes, sometimes, especially with crypto, it gets really theoretical and really math geeky and not practical.
Right.
You and I already had a discussion about this offline, and I think our audience would agree.
We need to really refocus on action steps that people can take right now, today.
To decentralize their lives.
And that's, I think today with Zach, we got a good dose of that.
Amen.
Yeah, I think, you know, our hopes are, to you, the viewers, is that you watch these shows and you not only can appreciate that others have done this decentralization in their lives, but you can see yourself as, hey, I can do this.
This is practical.
Okay, I need to do X, Y, and Z. Let's just start there.
Keep it simple, and that's what we hope to bring to you are some practical solutions on how you can insert yourself into the decentralization movie.
Yeah, and as an example of this practical thing, I was just sharing a link with you that I saw, and we're not endorsing the service yet, but we're going to test it.
Both you and I are going to test it.
I think it was called Trocador, but I'm not entirely sure.
But where you can...
You can trade privacy crypto, including Epic or Xano or Monero or others.
You can trade that for gift cards, like an Amazon gift card or a Best Buy gift card.
And I don't know what the fees are.
I mean, we're going to test it.
We'll take the dive and see if it works.
And if it does, we'll share it with people.
If it doesn't work, then we'll say, oh, well, there goes some crypto.
What else is new?
Yeah, and you know that I'm very involved in privacy crypto, and so I'm approaching this from the other side as well.
Ever since you informed me that this existed, I'm like, oh my gosh, a use case for private crypto, I love it.
So from the other side, I am working very hard at being able to make sure this is a viable solution that works.
Stand by, people.
It's going to be worth waiting.
You know what I want to test, Todd?
I'm going to do this, but I'm going to try to swap privacy crypto for a virtual Visa card.
Okay.
Because I think they offer that.
And then I'm going to try to make a purchase in my own store, healthrangerstore.com, on that Visa card.
That would be very cool.
Yeah, and then that would be a mechanism.
Yeah, as you go through the process, though, what I don't know, because we just kind of discovered this.
Yeah.
I want to make sure that there's no KYC involved with that.
And if there isn't, then man, bring it on.
Or imagine if there were a way, and again, I don't know what the fees are.
We're going to try this out.
But imagine if there were a way to take your crypto and just really convert it into physical gold and silver.
Easily.
Like privacy crypto, right?
Because I don't know any gold and silver retailers that accept Monero.
Some will take Bitcoin, but that's a surveillance coin.
Right.
Yeah, that's right.
I mean, I want a gold dealer that takes Monero.
Have you ever heard of any?
No, I haven't.
I mean, I don't know.
There could be one out there.
But look, just like we discovered within our interview today, I mean, the computing power is becoming so inexpensive.
We'll see a future over the next year of private crypto use cases that are going to become more and more and more viable.
Yes.
You know, we just haven't asked all of the right questions.
We haven't networked with all of the right people.
But everybody should know that's your and my intent, right?
Why not us?
Let's brave the path.
Let's figure this stuff out.
Well, and it's very clear, even...
In other conversations we've had with our guest, Zach, he mentioned that privacy crypto will always exist because there are elements of the global power players that need to use it.
Oh, Mike.
Right?
I gotta tell you, that was a golden nugget that I picked up that made me just in my own head go, wow.
And that's this.
That's the fact that, you know, we all talk about the elites.
We all talk about the people in charge.
We also talk about the deep state.
And I just wasn't ever thinking.
I was putting them all into one box.
But I think what Zach shared was there's a difference between the deep state and the elite.
And the elite, they want to be able to have uber privacy too.
They want to be able to exchange value privately, exchange information privately, because they don't want the deep state to come in and compromise them and what they're doing.
So that gave me a little bit of hope, Mike.
Yeah, I mean, it's interesting that even the global technocratic elite, let's say, international wealthy people, they don't want to be blackmailed by the deep state.
So they want privacy in their own transactions.
Yes.
Yes.
Even if they're not buying anything illicit, or maybe in some cases they are.
Maybe they're buying and selling illegal weapons.
Who knows?
I mean, I'm sure that happens.
But they wouldn't want to use Bitcoin even for legal transactions.
They don't want to be surveilled.
Think about this.
Based on Elon, Big Balls, and the Doge team, their investigations thus far, the money laundering kickback schemes exposed are absolutely mind-boggling.
Oh, yeah.
It's really difficult to comprehend the massive dollars involved.
And, you know, our viewers, you and me, we are interested in justice being exacted, right?
Right.
The folks that we need to come to justice, I'll be real curious if...
They didn't take their own privacy very seriously, and they just thought their tree grew to the sky.
And I am hoping, Mike, that there are arrests and that this just isn't bread and circus kabuki theater, right, that's ultimately protecting the Drew Babylonian bastards.
I want some arrests, Mike.
There need to be a lot of arrests, or as I said recently, I'm okay with full confessions in lieu of arrests, right?
So, for example, take Fauci.
You and I probably all agree.
I mean, our audience even agrees that Fauci did some horrible things, probably prison-worthy.
Yep.
I'd be okay with him just offering a detailed, full confession, like a 12-hour confessional interview, step-by-step, all the things you did.
And then you can be absolved of any punishment for those crimes.
I'm more interested in history.
I call it a reconciliation moment for our nation.
I would rather have reconciliation than revenge.
That's really interesting, Mike.
But then I wonder how long it would take Rachel Maddow to totally twist that 12 hours and just turn it on its head.
That's what, you know, I mean...
It's back to the PCs versus the NPCs.
I mean, it's like people are...
I'm not going to say people are so dumb, but there are a lot of people who are not that smart.
And I don't know.
How do you solve for that, Mike?
I've thought about this, and I thought that if the DOJ were to offer such an arrangement to many of these criminals that have been part of the deep state, some of them involved in COVID, some of them...
Money laundering, Ukraine, money skimming, right?
USAID, all of it.
I believe that the correct language for this is you must offer a confession written and on video and we get to ask you the questions and you can still be prosecuted for any crimes that you leave out of your confession.
Oh, okay.
So you can't just say, oh, we did bad things and now I'm absolved of everything.
You have to be detailed and specific.
You have to give enough information up that you could be prosecuted if that information were known, except for this arrangement, which is basically legal immunity in exchange for your confession.
And this has been done previously in history.
And it helps nations heal, actually, because the truth comes out.
And if you could hear Fauci or others in their own words detailing their crimes, That would really be something amazing.
And I'm more interested in that than jail time for him.
That would be amazing to see if that would be the key to be able to unlock the minds of what I refer to of the NPCs that just take their downloads from mainstream news.
Then they couldn't deny it anymore.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And maybe that would be this revelation that just, what did you call the moment?
Reconciliation.
Reconciliation moment.
That's fantastic, Mike.
And think about all the people involved in the Russia hoax that targeted Trump.
All those deep state spooks that took part in it.
They all knew they were committing felony crimes.
They were fabricating fake information.
They all have knowledge of this.
I mean, James Comey is being investigated right now by the FBI and the DOJ, which is really hilarious.
So, these people know what they did.
It's not like they thought they were good actors.
They knew they were bad people.
They just lied about it.
There's a bunch of them, you know, Brennan and others, right?
So if we could get them to confess, then I would be okay with concluding that chapter of history.
It would be epic, truly.
Where the hell does $4.7 trillion go, Mike?
When you think about all of that that just disappeared, even these corrupt politicians, I mean...
That's a lot of money to be spending, right?
Where does it go?
Yeah, I mean, so the fact that they can just create money from nothing and then wire it out to anybody they want, and that just, that, I mean, frankly, this, the moment we're at right now began in 1971, when Richard Nixon took us off the gold standard.
Right.
Because it enabled what was inevitably going to end up with abuse of power.
It was inescapable that we would arrive at this moment.
Of course they would print money and give it to their friends and those friends would end up losing all morality and end up in pizza party pedo basements and whatever.
I mean, of course!
Because this is where it goes when there's no accountability, no morality, no rule of law, no transparency.
We've seen this before.
Yeah.
I'm glad I'm a simple person, man.
Never got caught up in all of that crap.
Man, I can't even investigate some of that stuff because some of those rabbit holes are too sadistic and horrifying.
But I'm glad other people can investigate it.
It's all coming up.
But let's get back to the topic here today and our guest, Zach Voorhees, who, you know, I've had a lot of private conversations with him, and he's always on the cutting edge of tech, and also pro-human liberty, pro-truth, and he also wants to see all of this exposed.
What I did not have a chance to ask him today, though, is about Team Doge and their use of the AI crawler technology to go in and gather up all the evidence of all the crimes inside the Treasury, inside USAID, etc.
My understanding is Doge already has all the smoking gun evidence.
They've already got it done.
Sure they do.
I'm sure they do.
That's really cool.
Now, what we're going to be waiting for is to see if there truly is the commitment to justice being exacted, right, on the corrupt.
Yeah.
And if that happens.
Again, I love your theory, but I want to at least throw me a few arrests.
Just throw me a bone, Mike.
No, they can all be arrested and then offered the confession deal.
Okay.
Yeah, I want to see the perp walks too, sure.
Yeah, okay.
My other takeaway is when is the next 2008, I think, the next Olympics are?
And I really think that we should lobby.
2028, I'm sorry.
Yeah, and I think we should lobby for prompt engineering to become a sport.
And I'm betting on you to get the gold, Mike.
Well, I don't know about that, but yeah, that could be a sport.
But I was thinking that it would be sponsored by Ozempic.
It would be called the Ozempics Olympics.
And all the athletes would be injecting themselves with reptile venom.
And they would all have the Ozempic face, so you can't...
Like, all their teeth are falling out, but they're winning gold medals for pole vaulting or whatever.
They're all vomiting up their meals in the evening.
You know what I did, Mike, this week?
And you may applaud it, or you may just think, you know...
Maybe that was a waste.
But I tell you what, I take this seriously.
You know that when we talk about things, I tend to do, right, instead of just talk about them.
And so I found, and I don't know exactly what the name is, I don't know if we should share it if I did, but I found out that there is a program out there, which I think in total it was like a couple hundred bucks, that is like an absolute education from beginner to advanced.
On prompt engineering, on using AI, on using different AI. And whether it's from trying to create, you know, text or imagery or just good answers, you know.
And I haven't started that yet.
But I am, and I'm really super excited about it.
Because where do you start, if not at the beginning, Mike?
Hey, that's great.
I think that's really wise.
We all need to become really good at prompt engineering.
And it's not just for the AI software systems.
It's going to be for the physical robots that we have around us in the future.
You're going to need to give them tasks.
And describe it correctly.
Look at what you did with the music, my gosh, and the videos.
I mean, seriously, you and your team are becoming expert in that.
We're getting good at it.
That's accessible to all of us if we just dig in and we start learning it, right?
I think what people need to be careful and why I think our series that we're going to be bringing out is going to be so important is we're going to give you practical tips and I guarantee you before this series is done, I will have had some experience with this education that I'm going through and maybe...
Who knows, Mike?
Maybe we get them on a show or somebody like them, because I think that's what people need.
They just need to be told what to do, how to do it, so that they can go learn and improve.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
And I know there are prompt engineering courses, but the biggest part of it, as you stated, is to use it and gain the experience and the feedback, right?
For example, the other day on Suno, the music generator, I was really trying to push the boundaries of experimental music.
And I wish I could play the sample for you because it's pretty wild, but I was doing a song about, well, it's called Wide Awake, but I was doing a music style that is industrial, experimental, with industrial sound effects.
You know, the record scratches of hip-hop and all of this.
And then I was using all these tags within the lyrics to super-prompt the AI to do some pretty crazy things.
You can make it scream, too, by the way.
You can just put in screams.
You can have it vocalize instruments, like have an electric guitar sound like a howling wolf, you know?
Like, anything that you can think of, you can make it do that.
Yeah, it's crazy.
So I was able to get it to output this, like...
Really wild, you know, industrial music style with all these sound effects.
I'm like, yep, okay.
I've expanded the edge of what I can do with this thing.
Wow, that's cool.
Well, and that is testimony to the fact that maybe we don't, or maybe I don't have to be worried about cognitive elimination of the populace.
No.
Because you've got to be pretty darn smart to start figuring out how to be expert in prompt engineering.
That is so true.
Like Zach and I both said, we use our brains more with AI than we did before.
Because the way I describe it is whether I'm creating a music video or a song or a chapter for a book or whatever, I have to imagine it first.
And then I have to describe my vision through prompt engineering.
To the AI system.
And that process is very, very creative, and it requires a lot of brain power.
In fact, Todd, I'll say this.
I guarantee you, within a year, you and I both will be using AI to produce short films and mini documentaries just through prompt engineering.
And ultimately, you and I both will be putting out Hollywood feature films that are better than anything out of Hollywood.
That'll be rendered on our desks, but they'll look like $100 million films.
And you know what?
We might just do it for our own pleasure, for our own like, hey, create a movie for me tonight.
I want it to be X, Y, and Z, right?
Yes!
Absolutely, and you can put in...
Surprise me with the ending.
Right, and you can put guardrails, like no profanity or no nudity or whatever, like I want a Christian family-friendly...
Right.
Or you could go the other way, you know, give me Netflix, you know, perverted Netflix, you know, demonic seances for children or whatever.
Like, there's going to be people that want, I mean, of course, there are sickos that want that stuff, right?
But it's actually a reflection of your mind.
So you can get back what you ask for, which is really a kind of a law of the universe, interestingly.
And what's going to happen, I guarantee you, is people that, There are so many ways to use AI for your business.
You know, Todd, for our upcoming series we should do, just you and I, we should do a segment on AI for business.
And you know what I'll do?
I'll have I'll bring in a laptop with a GPU and we'll put DeepSeek on it.
And we'll do queries for the show in real time.
Like business case queries.
That would be so cool.
That would be cool.
In the meantime, as so many business opportunities coming up, this is a good time to talk about why people should consider what you offer, which is a structure to protect their assets.
If they're going to earn money, you want to be able to keep it, right?
Yeah, it's interesting.
I had a conversation today with a person who, he got his UNA back in September.
And so he had a little bit of 2024 to be able to generate income, donate to the U.N.A. so that he could write off 60% of his adjusted gross income.
He had a W-9 job, so he was able to reestablish his relationship with the employer to where it was the U.N.A. instead of his social security number, him.
Oh, wow.
That's huge.
Now he is just now getting it.
And he says, Wow, Todd, what I know is this.
I wish I knew about this years ago, but he said, this is what I know I'll do forevermore.
I will send you a thank you letter every April 15th.
It was great.
It was great.
Well, I brought up your website, my575e.com, so tell us about this.
Yeah, look, this is a way of being able to, as you'd mentioned, keep more of what you earn lawfully.
And there's still a component to it where you lawfully give unto Caesar.
So this isn't a total get-out-of-taxation-free card or anything like that.
But there's so many other things that you can do with this that people are realizing, whether it's donating property, which has all kinds of protections, You know, if you go to my575e.com and you enter in your email address and you just hit Let's Go,
your name and email address, you'll have access to a 90-minute video where I interview the expert in all of this, Dennis Gray, who has 34 years of experience of helping people acquire their own UNAs.
I got mine from him five and a half years ago, and it was just a year ago, Mike, that you and I were talking on one of our shows, and I'm like, you know, I need to tell people about this.
It's been so good to me and my wife over the years.
And so it's really become my form of activism to be able to let people this know exists.
Because when you start to research Unincorporated Nonprofit Association, I will tell you this.
It's almost as if they, who are they, don't want us to know that these things exist.
They are very powerful.
So all I do is, I don't sell these.
I just...
Inform people that you can go to my575e.com, go through the process, download the 12-page PDF that talks about the 32 positive attributes of the UNA. And you know what?
Maybe that answers your questions and you place an order.
Or not.
Book!
Book some time with me.
I make it very reasonable to book time with me to where I'll answer your questions.
And I will tell you, Mike, I think I'm running about 95%, and it doesn't have anything to do with me.
It's just when people book time with me, I'm able to answer the...
The high-quality questions they all have.
And they do invest $150 in that because when I didn't charge anything, Mike, people didn't show up.
So at $150, everybody seems to show up, but I always give that back to people if they move forward with the UNA. They just take it right off the top.
Todd, what's really incredible about what has just transpired in our country?
Politically.
And also with all the reforms that are coming.
So the way you describe your UNA here, I'm reading from your website, you know, it's keep more of what you earn, right?
My575E.com.
Well, that's what the Trump administration wants for all Americans, is to keep more of what they earn.
And the way we know that is because Trump is working on ways to...
Eliminate the IRS eventually.
I think that'll probably take an act of Congress.
But in the meantime, he's reducing taxes on tips or taxes on overtime.
And so he's kind of moving in the direction of keeping more of what to learn.
And then secondly, I just read yesterday that he's going to be firing 9,000 more IRS employees.
Why do we need all these federal employees that do nothing but hound the American people?
And he put out a big executive order to all the agencies to prepare for massive downsizing of personnel by September of this year.
We're talking about slashing.
This is really draining the swamp, right?
It's amazing.
Let me just finish.
What this means to me is that since the IRS isn't going to be around Right.
And look, this is real simple, Mike.
The layup with this 575E, with this unincorporated nonprofit association, is two things.
If you are a W-2 earner, you've got to check this out.
If you are a W-9, Contracted employee, you would be crazy.
I'm telling you, you would be crazy not to kick the tires on this because it's very, very powerful.
Good point.
All right, good point.
So again, that's my575e.com, and you'll learn everything from Todd there on that website.
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They are offering Starlink plans that are less expensive than direct with Starlink.
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And they can't track your exact location like a cell tower can, right?
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All right, Todd, well, that's an amazing show, and I can't wait to do more interviews for our docu-series that's coming up.
It's a few months out, but it's going to be kick-ass.
Really practical information.
A few months out, but you and I are going to be working every darn week.
Yeah, yeah.
We're going to be doing interviews every week for that, yeah.
And it'll be really cool because there's going to be bonus content available for people as well.
So that's another thing that both Mike and I are working on.
We're going to take some of the interviews behind the scenes.
And there's going to be some amazing insights that you'll glean from that.
There's going to be some AI-generated content as part of the bonus material.
I can already say that.
It's going to be really interesting stuff.
No one's ever done a docu-series the way we're going to do it.
Anyway, it'll be very practical.
Excellent.
Great conversation today.
Thanks for everything, for all your questions and all your enthusiasm.
We're helping a lot of people with this show.
So thanks for being part of it, Todd.
All right.
Thank you.
Thanks, everybody.
Yep.
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