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Welcome to Brighteon Broadcast News with Mike Adams, the Health Ranger.
Alright, welcome to Brighteon Broadcast News for Tuesday, February 25th, 2025. And interestingly, if you write that out, it's 02-25-2025.
and given that twos are the mirror image of fives, essentially, like twos are fives that are flipped horizontally, today is a day of incredible sort of numeric alignment.
You know, 2 slash 25 slash 2025, and the twos are mirrors of five.
So today is a day that I think sort of energetically is a day of looking in the mirror as a society, as a civilization, as a civilization.
And one of the things that's happening right now is that this breakaway civilization where Elon Musk is the front The public-facing man?
I don't want to call him a front man.
He's the public-facing man of this breakaway civilization.
And what's becoming clear to me now is that this breakaway civilization is carrying out a counter-coup against the, I don't know, the globalists, the Khazarian, Cabal, a lot of different names, right?
The secret societies, whatever you want to call it.
Global cabal of criminals and pedophiles and child traffickers and vampires and whatever have been controlling our world for centuries.
This is being defeated.
And I know that this starts to sound like, you know, Q information or something, which I've never followed.
I've never advocated.
I'm not saying that that's what's happening.
But there are parallels.
And, frankly, a lot of elements of what...
Q talked about are coming true now, which is kind of shocking because I always thought Q was just some, you know, deep state intelligence operation to convince people to sit back and do nothing while their country was destroyed.
So I'm not claiming this is Q.
Just to be clear, what it is is a breakaway civilization, a secret high technology group of power brokers who have decided to overthrow the old system of our world, and they're going a secret high technology group of power brokers who have decided to overthrow the old system And with each passing day, it's becoming more and more clear to me what this new system is going to look like and what they're tearing down in the old system.
There are clues every single day.
And also the fact that I'm deeply involved in AI technology and research and conversations with crazy high IQ people.
Well, I don't mean that they're crazy.
I mean, their intelligence is crazy high, is what I'm saying.
But I guess you get high IQ enough, you know, you start to sound crazy, right?
So, anyway, I'm talking to a lot of really smart people, and I'm no slouch myself in the cognition department, and so it's becoming clear to me what this is.
So I'm going to lay it out for you here today, and it's going to be shocking, and it's going to be scary for some people.
And some of you won't like this message and others will love it, but I'm just going to lay it out as best I can.
So with the caveat that I'm pretty sure that I've concluded, I've arrived at conclusions about things that I'm not supposed to know and that we're not supposed to talk about and you're not supposed to know, but hey, it's all coming out anyway, so let's talk about it.
All right, here are some clues.
So Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida is saying they're going to cancel all property taxes in Florida.
That's the effort.
There's a similar effort underway in Texas and other states.
And you might wonder, well, how are states going to fund themselves, or let's say counties or cities, if they don't have property tax revenue?
Okay, good question.
File that away.
Second issue.
Trump is going to cancel the IRS. He's going to shut it down.
There will be no more federal income taxes, and I do believe this is going to happen.
So then the obvious question, well, how is the federal government going to fund itself?
Okay, same question as states canceling their property taxes.
And some of these states...
Like, Texas doesn't have an income tax in Texas.
I don't think Florida does either, does it?
Does Florida have a state income tax?
I don't think it does, but I know Texas does not.
So, you're wondering, well, wait a minute, how are these entities going to fund themselves?
And I'm here to tell you that the system of money and finance that we have known our entire lives is going bye-bye.
Like I said, you're not in Kansas anymore.
It's going bye-bye.
What does that mean?
There won't be money like you've seen it.
What's going to happen, there will be two phases of transition of money.
Money is going to first transition away from fiat currency, which isn't technically money anyway.
There's going to be a global reset, well certainly a western reset, and money is going to become commodities.
The number one commodity being gold, and the second one being silver.
So gold and silver are commodities, but there are other commodities that are also minerals.
What are those?
Lithium, copper, aluminum, fertilizer minerals, and also, in a generic sense, hydrocarbons or fossil fuels are also considered mineral rights.
So oil, gas, etc., plus all the other minerals I mentioned, including nickel, tungsten.
You know, all these minerals are really, really critical for modern technology.
They're also critical for data centers.
So the transition that's underway right now, like if you're drawing notes about today's podcast on a whiteboard, point number one, the Western financial system will shift from fiat currency into commodities-backed currencies or settlement systems, systems of exchange, store of...
Value or units of value, units of exchange, okay?
So that is the first step that's happening right now.
That explains why there's such a rush on gold and silver.
It also explains something really critical to understand about Ukraine and Russia and the United States.
So let me set this up, and I'll try to be brief about this, but Ukraine has been militarily defeated.
Zelensky is a cocaine clown.
Zelensky is not liked by Trump.
The State Department under Trump, Rubio and others, made an offer to Zelensky, this was a week ago or so, to say, hey, you need to pay us back for the hundreds of billions of dollars that we spent defending Ukraine.
And one way to do that is to make us a 50% partner in the venture to extract minerals from Ukraine.
Half the revenue will go to Ukraine to help rebuild Ukraine, and the other half will go to the United States to pay back the U.S. Zelensky said no.
He told the U.S. to go pound sand, which is also a mineral that has export value, interestingly.
Nevertheless, then the State Department of the U.S., I'm simplifying this, but they came back and said, okay, new deal.
We take 100% of the minerals that we want, and you get...
Essentially, nothing.
And Zelensky is not playing ball with that.
So here's what's about to happen.
You might think, oh, how do I know this?
Why is my crystal ball working so well right now?
Oh, because it's a script, folks.
It's a script that's being followed, and it is not difficult to predict where this is going.
So here's what's going to happen next.
The United States is going to force Ukraine to sign a surrender with Russia.
It won't be called a surrender.
It'll be called a peace accord or a cessation of hostilities or whatever.
What's going to happen is Russia will take over the Donbass region, the mineral-rich regions of Russia, you know, the eastern portions, southeast portions, and probably a lot of the south.
I'm still guessing that Russia will end up with Odessa.
This will be heavily enforced by the United States, by Trump.
Trump will force, well, not even Zelensky.
Zelensky is going to be probably assassinated or eliminated or removed or he'll flee or something.
He's not going to be in the picture much longer.
There will be new elections.
There will be a new president of Ukraine.
That president will be very friendly to Trump for a number of reasons I'm not going to go into here.
I mean, you know, there's going to be things behind the scenes, okay?
So this guy is going to be relatively friendly to Trump, and he will agree to the surrender terms.
Russia will then take over eastern Ukraine, what was eastern Ukraine, which, frankly, was all former Soviet Union.
And historically, you know, part of Russia, etc., right?
Russian ethnic history, which goes back over a thousand years.
So that means Russia is going to end up owning the big, rich mineral deposits of eastern, what was eastern Ukraine, the Donbass region.
And also Crimea.
Russia is then going to do a deal with the United States where the U.S. buys those minerals from Russia.
So the U.S. is going to acquire minerals from Russia that Ukraine refused to allow the U.S. to be a partner in.
That's interesting.
Trump basically just gave Zelensky a chance.
Hey, work with us.
We'll do a deal with you.
We'll take 50%.
We'll get paid back.
Zelensky said no.
Essentially, again, I'm simplifying this, but Trump just went to Putin and said, hey, Putin, would you like to take over that portion of what was Ukraine?
Because Russia actually already controls it.
They already occupy it.
They already defeated Ukraine militarily.
Russia can just...
I mean, heck, a lot of those regions already voted to join Russia, right?
Donetsk and so on.
So Russia is just saying, yeah, we'll sell you minerals.
But you have to...
Normalize trade with Russia, which means, Mr. Trump, President Trump, that you are going to have to unfreeze the $300 billion in Russian deposits that are held in European banks through economic sanctions and freezing of that money.
So, Trump is going to say, okay, we're going to do that.
We're going to reduce a bunch of sanctions.
We'll eventually get rid of most of them.
We're going to normalize trade with Russia.
We're going to normalize diplomatic ties.
We're going to buy your minerals.
We're going to buy, you know, your fertilizer, whatever.
Maybe even, you know, energy in some form.
And at the same time, we, the United States, we are going to pressure what remains of Western Europe to unfreeze the Russian funds.
So how is that going to happen?
Because Western Europe does not want to unfreeze $300 billion in Russian.
Which are held in central banks, I believe in places like Romania.
I don't know all the exact places.
Perhaps some of it is in the Bank of England.
Well, so how is Trump hammering the Bank of England?
Well, that's easy.
See, Trump wants to give the American people a tour of Fort Knox.
He wants to show the American people there's gold in them, their vaults.
Okay?
And Elon Musk is talking about this, and Trump is saying he's going to go to Fort Knox, and he's going to open the vault, and he's going to find out what's in there.
Well, this is all theater, okay?
This is World Wrestling Federation theater.
Trump already knows what's in the vault.
And what's in the vault?
All the gold they've been flying from London for the past few months.
Yeah, the secret buyers, it turns out.
It's the U.S. government buying up all the gold in order to restock the vault in Fort Knox so that when they open the vault door, it doesn't turn into a, you know, Geraldo Rivera, like, fiasco.
Remember that thing in the 1980s?
He opened, what was it, Al Capone's vault or safe and it was empty.
It was like, the whole world laughed, it's empty?
Well, Trump is not going to have a Geraldo moment.
That vault in Fort Knox is not going to be empty.
There's going to be freaking gold in there.
And they know that because they're bringing the gold right now.
But by bringing the gold, they are about to cause the Bank of England to default on gold obligations.
This is going to crush the Bank of England.
And effectively, here we go, this is stuff I'm not supposed to know, the Bank of England is going to need a bailout.
Yes, the Bank of England is going to fail.
And, you know, frankly, this is, let's say, a version of or tied to the central bank of, you know, England, right, of the United Kingdom.
Not the ECB. I'm talking about England and the British pound.
It's going to fail.
It's going to need a bailout.
Well, that's where Trump will have leverage to say, okay, we will help bail you out, even though Trump is the one that's pulling all the gold, or Trump's people, you know.
They're pulling all the gold.
They're forcing the Bank of England to default.
But they're going to help with the bailout, but the conditions are you've got to release the $300 billion to Russia so that Russia will normalize trade with America and Russia will sell America the minerals that Russia got by conquering the Donbass region.
Are you putting the pieces of the puzzle together?
Yeah.
And why does America need the minerals?
Because Trump knows that China is going to cut off America from the rare earth minerals in China.
Trump is right now trying to, well, not just Trump, but Elon Musk and the whole breakaway civilization, they all need minerals.
You know, even extraterrestrials need minerals because we're talking about elements, the table of elements, all kinds of exotic elements with amazing properties.
Every piece of technology created by aliens or AI or humans uses elements.
You know, gallium, for example, or lithium or whatever.
Elements, the physical matter of the universe.
Well, the energetic, the physical form of energy in the universe.
That's what the table of elements is.
And elements, you know, minerals are elements.
Mineral compounds are, you know, more than one element combined together, like sodium chloride, right?
So you get two different elements combined to make salt, etc.
But elements or minerals...
is where the real value is going to be found for the next few decades.
And this is where the monetary systems are going to be backed.
So, minerals provides for technology.
Minerals provide for manufacturing of microchips, which power AI systems.
And minerals are necessary for advanced energy research and production, including cold fusion, hot fusion, green energy.
Wind turbines, solar panels, etc.
All that requires exotic minerals and a readily available mineral supply.
So, this is why the rush for minerals and the rush for gold and silver is really all the same thing.
And this is why the BRICS currency is going to be backed 40% by gold.
This is why Chinese central banks are buying up gold.
This is why Trump and his people are buying up gold.
Because...
When the global debt reset happens, the dollar reset will happen.
The new currency, maybe it's the new dollar, maybe it's the, I don't know the name, something new, will be backed by gold and possibly other commodities.
That's what's coming.
And this is Trump trying to position America to be competitive with China.
And making sure that America does not depend on Chinese rare earth mineral exports, because China can restrict those.
Actually, China has restricted those, and that has enormous implications for interrupting the supply chain of telecommunications and military equipment, aerospace, engineering, all these areas that matter, computing, quantum computing, etc.
Okay, so again, to summarize, the monetary system is now about to take an historic shift away from government printed fiat currency into mineral or commodities backed currencies.
Now, and gold again is the number one commodity, the number one mineral, the number one element, let's say, that's going to back currency.
Now, this is the way currencies will then, or money, will function for a period of time.
And then the next transition that will happen within, I'm guessing, three decades, it will depend on the advancement of technology to allow for orders of magnitude improvement on energy storage technology so that you can hold megawatt hours of electricity on something like a thumb drive that you can put in your pocket.
Is that a megawatt hour in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?
Hey, it's a megawatt hour in my pocket.
Well, megawatt hours, or kilowatt hours, will be the currency of the future.
And this is a prediction I made quite some time ago, but now it's suddenly even more relevant.
So, in the future, within a few decades, I'm guessing, money won't be, you know...
Money won't be currency, money won't be dollars, and money won't be backed by gold, even at that time.
At that time, money will be energy.
Because energy is the universal currency.
And you will be able to spend energy from your thumb drive in your pocket.
You'll be able to sort of transfer, you know, kilowatt hours or megawatt hours to a merchant or to someone else, you know, physically, in person.
Or you'll be able to load them into your power center that runs your house.
So you can consume the energy yourself.
You can use it for air conditioning.
You can use it to watch TV. You can use it to run a blender, a hairdryer, obviously all those things, or a heater.
Or, here's where it gets really interesting, you can convert energy into cognition.
How do you do that?
Through AI technology.
NVIDIA microchips.
What is a GPU? It's a graphics processing unit on an NVIDIA graphics card.
What does a GPU accomplish?
It translates watts or watt hours into cognition.
So let me give you a great example of that, like the DeepSeek R1 engine that I was running on my graphics card, which I'm actually looking at right now.
I have a GeForce RTX hanging out of this tower.
The card's too big for the case.
It's a monster card.
It just sticks out.
So I'm looking at it, and there's a lot of heat coming off of it.
That card itself consumes maybe 400, 500 watts when it's thinking.
When it's not thinking, it consumes 20 watts or almost nothing.
When it is thinking, like when I give it problems to solve, remember?
Like, hey, calculate how long it takes before this Rainwater tank freezes all the way solid with ice.
Remember that?
That requires cognition.
So that requires kilowatts or watt hours.
So how many watt hours does it take to solve that problem?
Well, that problem was solved in like 10 minutes.
So 10 minutes is one-sixth of an hour.
Let's make it simpler.
Let's say it's six minutes.
Okay, so that's one-tenth of an hour.
So if you were to burn, let's say, 400 watts over an hour, that would be 400 watt hours.
But if you burn that for only six minutes, it would be one-tenth of that.
So that would be 40 watt hours.
So 40 watt hours is a unit.
I mean, that's an amount of energy.
40 watt hours.
Or you could say 0.04 kilowatt hours.
It's the same.
That's the same thing.
Or 0.0004 megawatt hours, I believe, is where that decimal point would go.
But you get the idea, right?
So I can take power.
I can use it to buy stuff.
I can use it to run machines.
I can use it to translate into cognition.
I can use it for heat.
I can use it to charge an electric car.
Or whatever.
That's the money of the future.
Understand that dollars are only representations of supposed to be of gold.
And why does gold have intrinsic value?
Why?
Well, for a number of reasons.
It's beautiful.
It's rare.
It's inert.
It doesn't corrode easily or at all.
It's got industrial uses.
People love it.
It has a vibration of Gold has intrinsic,
inherent value for all these reasons, but Even that will be eclipsed You
know, a distribution hub, like a settlement system, kind of the way we do with banks right now, but much simpler.
All right?
So, let me summarize this again.
Money has been government-printed fiat until now.
It's about to transition into commodities.
So, commodities will be money, and the currency will be backed by commodities, notably gold.
And then it's going into, in the future, money will be energy.
Money will be energy, or I should say energy will be money.
That just depends on the technology arriving, and that technology will either be developed by AI, or that technology potentially already exists, and it's already possessed by the breakaway civilization that I believe Elon Musk sort of represents, okay?
And that breakaway civilization has advanced technology right now that they've kept under wraps for a long time.
And they're beginning to allow some of that technology to emerge.
That technology includes anti-gravity propulsion systems, which were probably reverse engineered from, you know, 1947 crash sites and things like that.
The invention of the transistor probably wasn't an invention.
It was probably a gift to humanity.
It was probably a technology transfer.
And that was also, well, that was credited to Bell Labs, but I don't think it was really Bell Labs.
The transistor then gave rise to the digital world, which gave rise to the microchips to handle AI. And then now we have quantum computing breakthroughs.
Microsoft just announcing a new state of matter, ultra-cold, ultra-superconducting matter, where you can fit one million quantum bits on a microchip that fits in the palm of your hand, something unimaginable two months ago.
You combine that, With AI. And then you start to get into the realm of science or technology that is so advanced that it appears like magic.
That's when you start to get into things like instant information teleportation, superposition, quantum entanglement.
You start to get into technology-driven, project-looking glass, remote viewing in the future.
Things like that.
And this is the technology powerhouse or treasure chest that this breakaway civilization is sitting on right now.
And that technology includes anti-aging, longevity technology, or aging reversal technology as well.
Sometimes people have talked about things like, quote, med beds, although that term has been sort of distorted and bastardized and it's not.
People misuse it to promote things like gimmicks and things like that, but there is anti-aging technology that exists.
There is tech for anti-gravity propulsion systems.
Now here's the other thing.
There's also highly advanced AI technology that I would call, let's call it a data system topology mapping technology.
Essentially, AI crawlers that can be unleashed into any digital system.
And what they do is they map out that entire system.
They are self-replicating AI crawlers that, I mean, you might call them a virus, but it's not a malicious virus.
It's a virus with a purpose of mapping out the terrain of the system and understanding the flows of data or...
In the case of the Treasury and USAID, etc., this advanced technology maps out money flows.
Now, this technology is not your normal, this isn't just a normal web crawler or a content spider.
This isn't just a normal AI system.
This is advanced tech that has never been seen before in our world.
It's something that's many, many years ahead of what is publicly known.
This technology has just been unleashed by the Elon Musk Doge team into the data systems of the entire federal government.
And this has activated what's now being called God Mode.
God Mode knowledge or omniscient awareness of the entire topography and functionality of all of the federal computer system.
By the way, a lot of the federal systems are really rather archaic anyway.
So it's not like they had exotic defenses against this kind of thing.
So if you were to imagine that, let's say, like, aliens landed their UFOs on Earth, and then aliens stepped out with advanced robots, and the robots, like, plugged into the government's computer system and just...
You know, magically uploaded like super alien crawlers and then the crawlers just went and they just like mapped the whole system and gathered all the data and then went back into the alien.
Pretty much that's what just happened.
Except not aliens, but exotic technology.
Like that just happened.
God mode just happened.
And what it means is that right now as you are listening to this, Which is really just another kind of public-facing, you know, sort of fun-looking group, which some people recommend it should be renamed FAFO, F-A-F-O, like the Federal Agency for Fraud Observations or something.
But of course it means also F around and find out.
I love the name.
Whatever.
It's just, it's a fun-facing front.
Behind it...
It's exotic technology that gathered up all the data, all the transactions, all the monetary flows, all the history, everything.
The court judges can't stop it.
The court orders are useless.
All the employees inside the federal government can't stop it.
And here's what just happened.
This is what you need to understand.
This is why the indications are that this is not some reform.
This is not rearranging the deck chairs here.
This is a counter-coup.
That's going to take down the entire system of government and system of money and banking that we know.
Right?
That's where this is headed.
Okay?
So, the Doge team, they now know everything.
They have all the smoking guns.
They have all the kickbacks.
They know all the transactions.
They have all the bribes.
They have all the money funneled to all the Democrats.
They've got all the money that changed hands for all the child traffickers, all the pedophiles, all the secret pervert groups that rented children for their perversions.
That's the NSA. That's the intelligence community.
That's what they did.
Pizzagate was real.
Doge has it all.
They have it all right now.
I mean, they just got it.
So it's done.
It's done.
Now, all they have to do...
Is determine how to coerce the bad people to resign or to have them prosecuted.
And you're going to see that happen over the next, well, 18 months, actually.
All the way up to the midterms.
And this is what's also fascinating.
My whole prediction that the United States of America, as you know it, would not be the same by the end of 2025. It's coming true.
This is it.
We're watching it.
Our system of government won't be the same, even by the end of this year.
Everything is changing.
They're tearing down the old system, and they're doing it by exposing the fraud and the corruption, the pedophilia, the child trafficking, the kickbacks, the bribery, all of it.
They're all going to get exposed, like the Nancy Pelosi's that got wealthy with insider trading, all going to be exposed.
Okay?
It's all happening.
They've got everything.
And now, understanding this, it becomes clear to me.
Guess what those drones were?
You know, right, like, late last year.
All those mysterious drones that were flying over, what?
Oh, they were flying over military bases.
They were flying over communication centers, satellite centers.
What were those?
Those drones were part of, they were the property of the breakaway civilization.
And those drones were gathering information.
Those drones were infiltrating systems.
They were downloading the AI crawlers into the military systems, the databases.
They were intercepting communications.
They were decrypting communications because they have quantum computers with thousands of qubits that can decrypt military-grade encryption.
These drones, that's why they were flying over the military bases.
They were just sitting there intercepting everything.
And the drones had stealth technology and the drones had, you know, propulsion systems, anti-gravity propulsion, everything.
Notice how quickly that story went away?
Notice that?
Yeah.
Because they wanted it to go away.
But that was breakaway civilization technology.
They've got a lot more technology.
The AI crawlers, like I said, they've got the longevity technology.
They've got quantum computing technology.
They've got exotic energy technology.
They've got cold fusion and they've got hot fusion.
And that's going to get rolled out too.
How do you think they're going to power the AI data centers in Texas?
You notice that?
Like OpenAI and now Apple saying they're going to commit hundreds of billions of dollars to building AI data centers in Texas.
Why is it always Texas?
Because Texas is an energy-rich state with low taxation and a lot of space to build really large facilities.
And Texas has put a lot of money into its power grid since the failures of what was like 2017 or whatever year that was.
Or was it 2019, the big freeze?
Anyway, they're going to roll out hot fusion and cold fusion and they're going to plug it into the Texas power grid.
You're going to have fusion power.
Powering the AI data centers in the next few years.
That's coming.
Because all this technology already exists.
It's just being now rolled out as this breakaway civilization is running a counter coup and it's overthrowing the old system.
Think about it.
They're overthrowing the banks, the globalists.
They're overthrowing the Federal Reserve.
They're going to audit the Fed.
They're going to essentially privatize the Fed, which means taking it away from the...
Global cabal of banksters.
That's the Khazarian mafia from 1913, folks.
That's what that is.
They're tearing down the medical system.
That's what RFK Jr. is just beginning to do.
They're tearing down the deep state.
Kash Patel, Dan Bongino, Pam Bondi.
That triple play right there has the radical left and the deep state in an outright panic, total despair, the headlines say, because their whole system is being torn down.
And then Trump's going to end the IRS. States are going to end property taxes.
Why?
Why?
Because dollars won't mean anything soon.
Understand?
Because currency isn't money.
Because we're not going to be living under a system of currency.
We're going to be living under a system of commodities as money, and then eventually energy as money.
That's where this is going.
It's very clear to me.
That's why I've said, if you're sitting on dollars, You know, you're screwed.
Ultimately, you're screwed because dollars aren't going to be worth anything.
That's how they're going to pay off the debt and complete, you know, pensions and everything else.
Yeah, people get dollars, it's just not worth anything.
The new money, it'll be backed by gold.
And the people who have the gold will be the new wealthy, or silver, for that matter, or commodities.
If you have oil, if you're sitting on an oil well, you're going to do well.
If you're sitting on a lithium mine, you know, you're going to do pretty well.
Nickel mine, copper mine, you know, all these exotic materials.
You're going to be doing really well, as Russia will.
But people sitting on dollars are going to lose it.
Now, why does this need to happen?
Because, remember, the value of human cognition is going to, it will approach zero.
Because artificial cognition...
Will become almost free.
It will only cost a little bit of electricity, like we talked about, watt hours or kilowatt hours to produce cognition, to do everything that humans currently do.
Why do you think Elon Musk is asking government employees to return an email to see if they're even alive?
Because he's going to fire.
Ultimately, he's going to fire.
I mean, if he gets his way, he's going to fire 90% of the federal workers.
Why?
You don't need them.
Because you don't need...
I mean, I can't even call it cognition when they're federal workers.
They're not even really doing anything.
Most of the federal workers, it's just like a welfare program.
They're not even doing their jobs.
Now, local government is different, but I'm talking about federal workers who don't even show up.
You can't even call it cognition.
But even if they were doing something, AI can replace them anyway.
So they're going to replace...
Human cognition with AI cognition.
And instead of paying salaries to the humans, they're just going to buy electricity in kilowatt hours in order to produce the cognition.
You see what I'm saying?
So the replacement of cognition requires a reset of the currency because dollars express value of human cognition.
You hire an attorney.
You pay with dollars for their brains and their effort to do something smart, hopefully, or an engineer.
You're paying an engineer a salary.
You're giving him or her dollars to do a bunch of math and design a bridge that won't collapse, right?
Money is used for goods or services, and the production of those goods and services currently involves human cognition.
Obviously augmented by machines in many cases, like assembly lines or whatever.
But all that's changing.
When the value of cognition goes to zero, money begins to lose its meaning.
Because what are you exchanging?
You see what I'm saying?
So you can't have a society of educated, smart people who are suddenly finding themselves having zero value.
That society doesn't function on fiat currency.
Instead, you have to shift the money supply to something that's real, and you have to have people living in the real world doing real things, like growing real food or mining real minerals, you know, things like that.
And this is why also Elon is rolling out the universal basic income, now called a Doge dividend.
So they're going to have a universal basic income for all these people that suddenly find themselves completely displaced by AI. They'll be living on the UBI. Even PhDs will have UBIs.
Seriously.
Meanwhile, a guy who's like a plumber or like a septic tank clean-out guy, he'll have a job.
PhD won't have a job or the PhD might try to work for the septic clean-out company.
Here, you vacuum feces with your PhD because the value of the PhD becomes nothing in the age of Digital cognition where kilowatt hours can be converted into intelligence.
And we are right there.
We're at the edge of that takeover right now.
And then, don't forget, a couple years down the road here, humanoid robots powered by AI, they will take the cost of human labor down to almost zero.
Or, you know, maybe not almost zero, but closer to zero.
Easily one-tenth the cost of human labor, maybe...
Maybe a lot less, maybe 1 50th the cost as there are economies of scale and so on.
So then you're going to have all the white collar workers and the blue collar workers displaced by these systems.
So under this system, what is money if you're exchanging it for, let's say, food?
But the food was grown and picked by robots that cost a fraction of what humans would have to earn in order to carry out those same So now, you see, money begins to lose its meaning because everything that you're exchanging for is plummeting towards zero cost.
You see what I'm saying?
I know that this is a concept that just flies in the face of traditional economics.
This is not what any of us learned in college.
I mean, I took an economics—well, actually, I have a minor in economics, come to think of it.
I remember one of my first economics professors, a Japanese professor, named Ishizawa.
And none of us could understand his English.
But he was really good at drawing charts on the chalkboard.
And we did, like, supply-demand curves.
And I wrote computer simulators.
That's in the early days of computers.
And he was really impressed with that.
So we got along great.
We did a lot of economic stuff back then.
But everything I'm telling you right now flies in the face of standard economics.
You know, Professor Ishizawa, may he rest in peace, he's probably not with us any longer, he would be rolling over in his grave if he heard me talking right now today, telling you what I'm telling you.
But AI changes all this.
Think about it.
If the cost of labor and the cost of cognition both go towards zero, what is the meaning of money when money is a unit?
of measure and exchange for things that typically have involved human effort or human ideas.
Think about it.
That's why money as we know it will cease to exist.
It's also why the entire system of government, banking, finance, lending, the future time projected value of present day money, all these things are going to have to be radically reconfigured because of the all these things are going to have to be radically reconfigured because of the AI takeover and the breakaway civilization takeover of our world, which will be powered by a So this is what we are witnessing.
And granted, I did not fully realize this until recently.
Even the whole system of medicine is about to become obsolete for a number of reasons.
Of course, just doctors themselves being nothing but sort of, you know, Prostitutes.
They can be replaced with AI vending machines.
That's easy.
Tell me where it hurts and I'll prescribe some pills.
You know, that kind of thing.
Which is all that a lot of GPs do anyway.
Oh, you're depressed?
Oh, you need this and that.
You know, psychiatrists.
Oh, you're going to need antidepressants and antipsychotics and anticonvulsants and this and that.
And anti-seizures.
And then you're going to need something to help you sleep.
And then you're going to need a pill to help you wake up.
And then you're going to need a pill to have an erection.
And a pill to pee and a pill to poop.
That's all they do.
It doesn't even mean anything.
It's just a way to make money pushing quackery.
Well, AI is going to get rid of all that.
And you're also going to have AI doing blood analysis of your own blood at home, eventually decentralized open source, which is interesting because there was a company, I forgot the name of it, that the woman who thought she was Steve Jobs, she...
I think she got prosecuted and went to prison for the fraud for raising money.
What was the name of that company?
Turned out to all be a giant hoax, and it was supposed to be a machine that sits in your house and I think takes a little blood sample and is supposed to run all these diagnostic tests and then give you all kinds of information and track your health and everything.
Well, that concept is actually real.
Now, she committed fraud.
According to the jury and the court, she was convicted, I believe.
Forgot her name.
But that tech actually does exist.
She just didn't have it.
It does exist.
And we're going to have it.
It's going to be a little device that is in your house and you stick your finger in this machine.
You have to trust it a little bit.
I do what?
I do what?
You want me to just put my finger in that?
No.
Please, God, no.
You do it first!
Anyway, you're going to stick your finger in this machine, and it's going to puncture, it's going to do a little lancet, like a diabetic blood test prick, a little prick, like Adam Schiff.
There's going to be a little prick in there, and then it's going to draw the blood, and then it's going to use AI analysis of your blood, okay?
And it's going to...
Know everything about your nutrition, about your heavy metals exposure.
It's going to have all these biomarkers, aging markers, cardiovascular markers, everything.
And then the AI system is going to relate that back to this massive knowledge base and all this data aggregation from billions of tests.
And it's going to know exactly, oh, you have cancer or whatever, or you don't have cancer, or you have anti-cancer nutrients, or you have the blood of a 19-year-old.
Like, how did you get that?
You know, they'd be asking the globalists.
Are you drinking adrenochrome again?
Okay, that sick joke.
I'm sorry about that one.
But the point is, they're going to be able to tell you how long you're likely to live, what diseases, whether you have good nutrition, etc.
And people who pay attention to that are going to be able to say, oh, I should eat more broccoli.
I should have more sulforaphane.
I should increase turmeric consumption to decrease inflammation.
Oh, I'm vitamin D deficient.
So you can use it.
In a positive way to achieve health and longevity and real monitoring of your situation, your blood situation.
And yeah, it can probably also monitor your urine.
It's like, pee into this other hole, you know?
Stick your finger in this hole, pee into that hole.
Wait a second.
No.
No, pee in this hole and stick your finger in this other hole.
That's, sorry, that's right out of idiocracy.
Where he went to the hospital and they gave him all these probes and said, stick this one in your butt and this one in your mouth, and then he did that.
Remember?
And the doctor said, oh wait.
Now wait a minute, it's the other way around?
Okay, so that's my joke.
But that's right out of idiocracy.
But this is what's going to happen.
It's going to monitor your pee, your blood, your breath, like all this stuff, and it's going to use AI analysis.
And it's actually going to be really practical.
And there'll be open source models you can load into it.
Maybe some of them trained on some of the AI that I'm building that know everything about nutrition and phytonutrients and, you know, wellness and things like that.
And you'll be able to use it for health, not just, you know, I wouldn't want to use it as just pushing pills, obviously.
Oh, you need chemo.
No, thank you.
I need vitamin D, right?
So all that stuff is coming.
In effect, it's kind of like a med bed.
It gives you the analysis that you need to sort of self-medicate with nutrition and herbs and lifestyle choices and healing foods and, you know, fitness and red light therapy and all these other things.
So it's kind of like a med bed, just not magic.
So everything is changing.
Our whole society is changing.
There's a revolution.
It's a counter coup.
The old system will be dismantled and defeated.
And, you know, look, I'm all in favor of this, just to be clear.
I'm all in favor of tearing down the old system and bringing in a new system that gives us the power to be in control of our own lives without living under authoritarianism and tyranny and currency looting.
I do not, however, want to see, you know, Skynet taking over the world.
I don't want to see AI technology centralized.
In the hands of a few powerful corporations or a few powerful people and then turning us all into obedient slaves.
That's not okay.
So we have to make sure that we really advocate for decentralization of technology and distribution of AI tech to put it into the hands of the people, which is what I'm doing with my AI project that you've heard about.
It's called ENOC and it's going to be released in March.
The original launch date was March 1st.
That's delayed a little bit, but not too much.
And you can find that at brighttown.ai.
You'll be able to download it when it's available.
And it's going to be a kick-ass model that can help you do a lot of research and answer questions and things like that.
Now, the old system of medicine, what we call Rockefeller medicine, has dominated our society for...
Well over 100 years.
It's like 100 and...
Well, let's say...
Let's just call it a century.
Okay?
Century plus.
I've got a great book video for you here from brightlearn.ai.
It's called Rockefeller Medicine Men.
It's a book by E. Richard Brown.
And so we're going to take a look at that book review video right now.
Rockefeller Medicine Men.
This is really cool.
You need to understand this, how they took over Western medicine and turned it into a pharmaceutical cartel that profited from keeping people sick and diseased.
And that system is about to come to an end.
Check out this video.
Hello, everyone, and welcome back.
Today we're turning to E. Richard Brown's groundbreaking book, Rockefeller Medicine Men, Medicine and Capitalism in America.
Let's start with the big picture.
The crisis we face in healthcare today isn't a recent development.
It's deeply rooted in the history of modern medicine and corporate capitalism.
Back in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, the medical profession was struggling.
Doctors were often seen as ineffective, and the profession was plagued by infighting and competition from other healing traditions.
But then something shifted.
The rise of scientific medicine provided a way out.
Physicians and researchers began applying scientific methods to medicine, and this new approach promised more effective treatments and a way to distinguish themselves from other healers.
But here's the catch.
Scientific medicine required resources far beyond what individual doctors could provide.
It needed hospitals with state-of-the-art equipment, research laboratories, and highly trained specialists.
Enter the wealthy capitalists.
Men like John D. Rockefeller and Andrew Carnegie saw an opportunity.
They recognized that investing in medicine could serve their own interests by creating a healthier workforce and legitimizing their wealth and power.
But it wasn't just about charity and money.
It was about shaping medicine to fit the needs of a capitalist society.
Rockefeller, for example, was initially skeptical about scientific medicine.
He was a follower of homeopathy, a competing medical tradition.
But his chief advisor, Frederick T. Gates, Gates was a former Baptist minister turned businessman, and he became the architect of Rockefeller's medical philanthropy.
Gates was a master strategist.
He convinced Rockefeller to invest in medical research and education, but he also had a vision for how medicine should be organized.
He believed that medicine should be centralized, rationalized, and controlled by experts.
This vision led to the creation of the Rockefeller Institute for Medical Research, which became a powerhouse of scientific research.
But Gates didn't stop there.
He also played a key role in reforming medical education.
In 1910 he supported the publication of the Flexner Report, a scathing critique of American medical schools that called for sweeping reforms.
The report recommended closing down proprietary medical schools, which were often seen as low-quality and profit-driven, and promoting university-affiliated schools that emphasize scientific research.
The impact of the Flexner report was profound.
It led to the closure of many medical schools and drastically reduced the number of doctors being produced.
This, in turn, helped raise the social status and incomes of physicians.
But it also had a darker side.
The reforms disproportionately affected schools that served poor and minority communities, leading to a decline in the number of doctors serving those populations.
Meanwhile, the Rockefeller philanthropies continued to push for the dominance of scientific medicine.
They supported the full-time plan, which required medical faculty to devote themselves entirely to teaching and research rather than maintaining private practices.
This was a controversial move that pitted academic doctors against private practitioners.
The struggle over the full-time plan exposed deep divisions within the medical profession.
Academic doctors, particularly those in laboratory sciences, saw themselves as the vanguard of scientific medicine.
They believed that medicine should be a science, not an art, and that clinical faculty should be focused on research and teaching.
Private practitioners, on the other hand, were concerned about losing their autonomy and the financial benefits of private practice.
Despite the resistance, the full-time plan was eventually implemented at many elite medical schools, thanks in part to the financial support of the Rockefeller Philanthropies.
This shift further consolidated the power of academic doctors and medical scientists who became the new elite in the profession.
But the influence of the Rockefeller Philanthropies extended beyond medical education.
They also played a key role in the development of public health programs both in the United States and abroad.
Gates and his colleagues believed that improving public health was crucial for the stability and productivity of capitalist society.
They saw medicine as a tool for social control and economic development.
For example, the Rockefeller Sanitary Commission, established in 1909, aimed to eradicate hookworm disease in the southern United States.
The Commission's efforts were motivated not just by humanitarian concerns, but also by the belief that a healthier workforce would be more productive and less likely to engage in labor unrest.
As the 20th century progressed, the influence of the Rockefeller philanthropies and other corporate philanthropies continued to grow.
They provided critical funding for medical research and education, shaping the direction of medical science and the organization of medical care.
Their influence was felt not just in the United States, but around the world.
But the story doesn't end there.
The rise of technological medicine and the increasing capital intensity of medical care created new challenges.
The cost of medical technology skyrocketed and the medical profession became increasingly dependent on expensive equipment and facilities.
This, in turn, led to the rise of powerful medical industries like hospitals, insurance companies, and pharmaceutical companies, which became major players in the medical marketplace.
Today, the medical-industrial complex is a major force in American society.
It is driven by the same forces of capitalism that shaped the development of medicine in the early 20th century.
And while technological advances have brought many benefits, they have also contributed to the rising costs and inequities in the health care system.
So where does that leave us?
The history of American medicine is a complex and often troubling story.
It's a story of progress and innovation, but also of power, privilege, and the pursuit of profit.
As we face the challenges of health care today, it's important to understand this history and the forces that continue to shape our medical system.
Thanks for tuning in to this episode of Bright Learn.
I hope you found this exploration of the Rockefeller Medicine Men and the history of American medicine as fascinating as I did.
If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave us a review.
And join us next time as we continue to explore the stories that shape our world.
Until then, keep learning, keep questioning, and stay curious.
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All right, pretty cool.
Pretty cool book there. - Sure.
Check that out.
Get the full book by E. Richard Brown.
And continuing our thought here, we're talking about the breakaway civilization carrying out a counter-coup takeover that is dismantling the old world system, tearing down government, money, currency, banking, finance, medicine, education, you know, all of it.
And replacing it with something that looks very different.
Now, in order to fully understand how corrupt the old system has become and why exposing it will help tear it down, I've got another book for you here.
A book video based on a book by Kash Patel.
Kash Patel.
Yeah.
The current director of the FBI. So he wrote a book called Government Gangsters.
Yeah.
He's now the head of the FBI and he wrote a book called Government Gangsters.
I mean, think about that.
So he's now the boss of the gangsters and he's going to make some heads roll.
But check out this book video.
It's about six minutes.
That reveals just how corrupt the government became under Biden.
And why exposing all of this is going to tear down that entire system.
So here we go.
Second book video, Government Gangsters by Kash Patel.
Then we'll continue.
Hello, everyone, and welcome back.
I'm Natural News, and this is the show where we dive deep into the stories that shape our world, separating fact from fiction and shining a light on the truth.
Today, we're going to take a deep dive into the book, Government Gangsters, The Deep State, The Truth.
This book is a first-hand account of Patel's experiences in the heart of the federal government, and it offers a shocking, eye-opening look at the inner workings of the deep state.
So buckle up, because this is going to be a wild ride.
Patel's journey to uncovering the secrets of the federal government started in the world of law.
After finishing law school, he became a public defender in Miami-Dade, Florida.
As a public defender, he would eventually work on a high-profile drug trafficking case, and it was here that his eyes were truly opened.
Patel discovered that Colombian police involved in the case were being paid by the U.S. government.
When he confronted the federal prosecutor about this, she denied any knowledge, despite clear evidence to the contrary.
This blatant violation of the Brady Rule, which requires prosecutors to disclose evidence favorable to the defense, This experience set the stage for Patel's next move, joining the Department of Justice as a terrorism prosecutor.
It was here that he witnessed firsthand the political machinations at the highest levels of the federal government.
He recounts an incident where he was unjustly thrown out of a court by a judge who seemed more interested in grandstanding than in justice, Despite support from his superiors, Patel was left to fend for himself in the media.
This incident highlighted a troubling pattern.
Senior officials at the DOJ were more concerned with optics and politics than with justice.
Patel saw this play out again in the Benghazi investigation where political considerations led to selective prosecutions and a failure to hold terrorists accountable.
He witnessed the DOJ and FBI under the Obama administration, prioritizing political expediency over the pursuit of truth and justice.
Patel's experiences in the DOJ and his growing awareness of the deep state's influence led him to join the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence as a staffer.
It was here that he played a pivotal role in uncovering the truth behind the Russia collusion hoax.
He describes the painstaking process of sifting through documents, interviewing witnesses, and piecing together the evidence that would eventually expose the FBI's abuse of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act to spy on the Trump campaign.
Patel recounts the moment he realized the FBI's case was built on the now infamous Steele dossier, a document filled with unsubstantiated claims and outright fabrications.
He details the efforts of FBI agents to hide the fact that the dossier was funded by the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee.
And how they used it to obtain FISA warrants to surveil Trump associates.
This revelation was a bombshell, revealing a level of corruption that shook the foundations of the FBI and DOJ. But the release of the Nunes memo, which detailed the FBI's abuses, was just the beginning.
Patel faced a fierce backlash from the Deep State and its allies in the media and Democratic Party.
He recounts the personal attacks, death threats, and attempts to discredit him.
And his work.
Despite these challenges, Patel remained steadfast, driven by a commitment to uncovering the truth and holding those in power accountable.
Patel's journey took another turn when he joined the National Security Council under President Trump.
He describes the challenges of working in an environment where political appointees and career bureaucrats were often at odds.
He recounts the efforts of Trump administration officials to declassify documents related to Russiagate and the Hillary Clinton email scandal and the resistance they faced from within the intelligence community.
Patel also recounts the efforts of deep state actors to undermine the Trump administration, including the impeachment hoax involving Ukraine.
He describes the tactics used by bureaucrats to slow walk or obstruct the president's agenda and the importance of having a strong, committed team.
Patel's experiences in the NSC and his subsequent role as Chief of Staff at the Department of Defense provide a fascinating glimpse into the inner workings of the U.S. military and the challenges of reforming a massive, entrenched bureaucracy.
He details the many attempts to reform the department and the massive resistance he and others faced from within the Pentagon and the defense industry.
Finally, Patel addresses the events of January 6th, Government Gangsters is a powerful,
eye-opening account.
Patel's experiences offer a sobering reminder of the challenges facing our nation and the importance of remaining vigilant in the defense of our freedoms.
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There's a lot more.
If you go to brightlearn.ai, there are more books there that you'll probably want to see.
One of them is called The Ultimate Guide to Methylene Blue by Mark Sloan.
You can check out that.
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And as you can see, we've got a great lineup here today.
Of course, we have Todd joining us remotely from Florida.
Welcome, Todd.
And we'll talk more in just a second.
And our guest in studio here in Texas is Ashton Addison from CryptoCoinShow, a very popular channel on YouTube.
Welcome.
It's great to have you here.
Thank you so much, Mike.
And thank you, Todd.
You're welcome.
This is great.
Thank you both for being here.
So Todd, I have to thank you for making this introduction.
And CryptoCoinShow, you've done 1,500 interviews, I think you said.
Yep, over the past 10 years or so, before many people knew about crypto.
Wow.
And so together, think about the knowledge base here, folks.
How many interviews we've done and how many crypto projects we've looked at.
And some of them thrown in the garbage and others like this is awesome.
So what we're about to have here today, folks, is a really amazing conversation, a big overview about where crypto is right now, privacy and non-privacy, and sort of where it's going as well.
So Todd, let's jump in with you first.
What would you like to launch with since we have our guest captured here?
He's going to answer anything that we throw his way.
So where do you want to begin?
I just want to see that meat necklace around his neck and Brody play with it.
That'll be kind of fun.
Brody's sleeping over there.
He's just hanging.
All right.
No, Ashton, thank you for being here.
And before we take a deep dive into crypto, do you mind if I go personal a little bit with you, Ashton?
Alright, so over the past few years, you and your wife have been literal decentralized nomads.
And you set out to determine where you would like to lay roots long-term with no preconceived notions, as I understand it, on where that would be.
And I'd love for you to share a bit about your journey and ultimately where you decided to finally settle down and why.
Definitely.
Yeah, it's once you get deep into...
Once you're in blockchain, everything is remote.
Of course, there can be offices, but if you're going to an office, you're probably one of the select few in blockchain.
I know teams are working all over the world.
Once that happens and you're free of the country that you were born in and the 100 square kilometers of where your high school was, all of a sudden the world's your oyster.
It's pretty hard to make a decision on where should I go when I have the whole world to choose from.
And so I spent a few years before I found my wife, which that actually happened in Mexico near the Tulum Crypto Club.
I actually met her at the crypto club when I was speaking.
So that was a blessing.
In Tulum, there are a lot of ancient ruins there as well.
There's a lot of Mayan ruins there.
Whether the energy is still there in full or it's been depreciated a little bit from the tourism.
Is another story.
But there's definitely a lot of like-minded individuals, freedom-oriented and crypto and blockchain and digital nomads that are working in Web2 marketing companies as well.
So I managed to find the Tulum Crypto Club and spoke there for many months.
Just preaching the word of blockchain and managed to meet my wife there.
We looked for other hotspots around the world where we might find similar people that are nomads, love blockchain, love freedom, like privacy, and looked through Thailand, Spain, El Salvador, for sure.
I was actually at the Bitcoin City announcement in 2021. Check that out.
Central America, Bitcoin City in El Salvador, Bitcoin Jungle in Costa Rica, Bitcoin Lake in Guatemala.
Wow.
There's a lot of Bitcoins.
You really checked it out.
Yeah, I've checked it all out and seen the attempt at adopting Bitcoin as a currency in these small towns.
I bought some Malabids in Guatemala with Bitcoin.
I bought some stuff at Bitcoin Beach where Bitcoin at the time needed to be accepted because it is a government currency.
They've just changed that actually.
I saw that because of pressure from the World Bank, was it?
I think that they needed some more IMF loans probably to buy more Bitcoin, really.
But I'm pretty sure everyone still takes it.
So I spent some Bitcoin on Lightning.
In Bitcoin Beach, just from some picnic tables of women that had nothing except some little necklaces and their phone.
So I checked all that out and then decided, okay, where are we going to settle and actually start?
Because nomading is amazing, and you can check out the world.
But also, eventually, you might want to start a family, you might want to take a break.
Maybe you have one or two locations where you move every six months, or if you have a family, you need to find somewhere.
It's also good to have a refrigerator.
Definitely.
Is it going to be in Bitcoin Beach?
Sure, there's Bitcoin payments, but there's no infrastructure, very little healthcare, all of these things.
So I ended up settling back in America after the journey around.
And we know all the best spots to maybe take a vacation, maybe an elongated vacation, but to live your life there, maybe for a year or two.
We spent three or four years.
On this journey.
And that's enough time to get the travel bug out, I think, as well.
Is it up in Austin?
Yeah.
There's a huge Bitcoin community in Austin.
University of Austin was one of the first universities that just announced this week they bought $5 million in Bitcoin.
So the governor of Texas just announced a strategic reserve for the state of Texas?
Yeah, they did.
We also spoke with the Texas Blockchain Council last month or two and went to the conference in Dallas.
The legislation, I think, is coming from them working with the regulators and the policymakers is the strongest of any state to put forth Bitcoin and blockchain-related proposals.
The Texas stock market is coming.
Maybe that'll be tokenized as well.
That's amazing.
And we have our own gold repository here in the state.
Yeah, so there's a lot going on here.
So how long have you been in Austin?
Just for six months.
Oh, wow.
Well, welcome.
Thank you.
Ashton, I know that there's been a little recent issue lately, where as you are coming back to the U.S., you are being forced.
Can you can you just share a little bit about this vaccine nonsense?
Yeah, sure.
Well, as a part of the immigration policy, there's the medical, as you would call it, the medical industrial complex.
They want you to make sure you have XYZ of all these shots.
Or else you're not going to be let in.
And I'm actually Canadian originally.
So I'm not American.
My wife is.
And now that we're settling here, now I'm coming in from Canada.
I thought that the immigration requirement for COVID vaccines was just dropped.
It was, yeah.
There's six or seven other ones that are not dropped.
Okay, got it.
But at least it's not an mRNA injection.
No, no.
That was dropped on January 22nd.
And we'll see what RFK has to say about it.
Yeah, that's going to be interesting.
Have you gotten those already, or are you still kind of treading water waiting for RFK to maybe do his thing and just say, screw that?
Yeah, I haven't gotten it, and I'm...
And I don't want to.
But we'll see, you know, the hand that feeds you what will happen.
So we're figuring it all out.
All right, very cool.
So, okay, you're Canadian.
And so I have to ask you, does this Texas flag frighten you?
No.
I think it's great, and it's nice and big as Texas could be.
Show the flag.
Show camera six, guys.
So people need to see this.
There we go.
The Texas flag.
Some Canadians get really tremors because also I'm armed.
It's a controversial thing right now with Trump saying 51st state.
Isn't that wild?
I think that's crazy.
Trump, what do you mean?
I think as a nomad that isn't necessarily tied to Canada anymore, I would rather be earning in American dollars.
As you can see, the Canadian dollar is just going down the hole.
If you look at the GDP chart comparing Canada to America post-COVID is like, Canada looks like a little bunny hill.
It's going down.
Not good.
They need to do some things to solve that.
And it's tough.
What do you do now that your main trade partner is forcing you to become part of America?
It's wild.
But look, we love Canadians.
We welcome you here to Texas.
And you just have to take at least one AR-15 course while you're in Texas.
Make sure you get totally up to speed.
You can't really be a full Texan unless you know how to do quick reloads.
Definitely.
Okay.
As long as we have that established, we're all good.
All right.
Now, continuing with...
And of course, I know all the people who can do that training.
If you want to do that, you'll have a blast.
Getting to crypto, which is really the focus here, all jokes aside.
Let me ask you for your big picture question, but let me start with a little bit of a pushback.
Todd and I have talked about this quite a lot on the show.
Bitcoin has in many ways, and of course we've had Aaron Day as a guest, and Aaron is a big critic of what happened with the block size wars, etc.
And I see what Aaron is saying.
I agree with him.
Bitcoin has not fulfilled its original promise of being fast, cheap, transactional, everyday-use currency.
That dream seems to be dead, right?
So where are we with Bitcoin?
It's a great question.
I think the way that Satoshi envisioned it in the eight pages that he could explain, that you can read on the white paper still, it's hard to know if that's how it was supposed to be on day one, year one, or year 100.
And there's all of these arguments about how we should shape it and fulfill the prophecy of how Bitcoin should be.
Of course, there was the block wars.
Should we make it bigger?
Does that make it more centralized?
If we don't agree, we'll fork off to Bitcoin Cash.
There's a whole other discussion, not Bitcoin.
Or there's Lightning Network Layer 2 solutions, which are not as decentralized as Bitcoin.
I've used them, but no one really uses that.
I've tested it out.
I still use Bitcoin transfers.
You couldn't buy a coffee for $5 and pay a cent, but you could buy something for a few hundred dollars.
And you'd be like, okay, this is still a better deal than maybe some.
To be used for everyday purchases, there's still that issue.
To be sending $100 million, then now you're talking immense savings, or a million or a thousand.
But it seems to me that most of the people advocating for Bitcoin now are really calling it digital gold, a store of value.
And it really begs the question then, okay, so it's not really a transactional crypto.
But we still need a transactional crypto.
In your view, you've interviewed 1,500 people.
What are the best contenders or what's the best technology?
Even without naming projects, is there an approach that can fulfill that?
I think right now the closest thing that we have are the other top blockchains like Ethereum and Solana.
I think it's actually as low as $0.04 to make a transaction, which is very low.
But when everyone's transacting, and if the world decides to actually adopt Ethereum on the layer 1, you could be looking at $20.
If you're actually doing a swap that requires more smart contract interaction, it could be $50, $100, which is, of course, even worse than Bitcoin, not attainable at all.
But there is the Ethereum layer 2 solutions, which there's so many of them now, including like Base, for example, which Coinbase, and I'm sure they're trying to get that into the regulators.
And you're looking at a cent or less on some of the layer 2s that settle on Ethereum, but they're not actually on Ethereum.
So there are many, many options of multi-billion dollar projects that can do transactions.
And you're probably looking at using a stablecoin USDC or USDT. Like, say I want to pay for a coffee.
You could use a layer two with a stable coin and you'd be paying a cent or less in transaction fees.
I think that's the most practical method right now.
Makes sense.
Todd, what do you think about all that?
Well, I want to keep coming back to Bitcoin because when you were first talking, everywhere you went had Bitcoin in the name.
Somehow, somewhere, Bitcoin beat.
Bitcoin skyscraper, Bitcoin Dubai.
I don't think you told us about Dubai.
But is Bitcoin now what I'd call a Druid Babylonian bastard cryptocurrency, one that is now manipulated by the powers that be through surveillance, censorship, fractional reserve, and rehypothecation, Ashton?
Yeah, I think, you know, despite what I said about These transactions are great on Ethereum, as in it could be lower cost if you do the right things.
There's no comparison to the adoption of Bitcoin and Bitcoin payments, and people preferring to pay with Bitcoin even if the cost is a little bit higher.
And what we've seen throughout 2024, and now...
Moving into 2025 was, in the beginning of 2024, we saw the launch of the Bitcoin ETF on the stock market and billions flowing in.
It's already the most successful ETF launch in terms of volume and buying power of all time, surpassed that of gold, of 20 years of buying gold in the ETF. There's already more Bitcoin in one year.
And now we're heading into year two.
This is continuing.
Does it taint?
Bitcoin itself, for example, if you have Bitcoin on a cold storage wallet on your phone, the ETF, if you buy the ETF, you're not actually owning Bitcoin itself.
You're owning a fictional stock where the stock company's holding your Bitcoin for you somewhere.
Hopefully they have it on a one-to-one reserve, but you can't just redeem that or they could decide to take it away.
Whereas if you had a cold storage Bitcoin, you...
It can't be taken away.
So does that taint Bitcoin?
I don't think so.
I think that it really was inevitable that for the people that adopted Bitcoin early on in the cypherpunks, they should have expected that if this is going to become something that's mainstream in the global currency of the world, the institutions are going to get involved and they're going to try to do things the institutions are going to get involved and they're going to try to do things to it, whether it's the block size and more centralization or ETFs and
They're going to do other things to try to accumulate that Bitcoin and hold it for you or try to take away some of the power because Bitcoin is one of the most powerful tools in the world.
It is indeed very powerful and the thing I love the most about Bitcoin is the fact that it cannot be counterfeited by any government.
This is the problem with dollar or fiat currency printing, is that it can always be counterfeited by nations.
Be careful.
What?
What?
Which part?
I'm going to push back just a little bit.
No, no, I'm not done.
I'm not done.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
No, but we'll give you the floor next, but I was going to bring in something else.
All right, sorry.
To my producers, show my screen.
Here's a book that everybody needs to read.
It's called Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds, right?
And this is from, I forgot what year this was originally published.
2016?
No.
Here it is, 1841. Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
I mean, this goes way back.
Because nothing has changed in human behavior.
And when I see all this money flooding into Bitcoin ETFs, I think of this book, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds.
Because I would never advocate anybody buy a Bitcoin ETF, because the whole point is to have custody, have control.
And I know, Todd, you're going to talk about rehypothecation, right?
Yes.
Yeah.
Okay, go for it.
Go for it.
Yeah.
And you're right.
You're right about that.
Yeah.
So everybody, rehypothecation or fractional reserve is where you have a bank, right, who...
You're going to borrow $100,000 from them, but they don't have the $100,000 to be able to loan you.
And it's fiction, right?
So these ETFs, we don't know now whether this 21 million Bitcoin supply is 21 million.
It's not.
I agree.
It's not.
It's probably $60 million, maybe higher, because all of these, the greed kicks in to where, you know, you may have an ETF go out and buy, you know, a thousand Bitcoin, but they're going to loan it out because now it's just fictitious paper.
They're going to loan it out to 10,000 people.
So all of those 10,000 people are like, woo, I'm rich, win, moon.
So, Todd.
Yes, go ahead.
No, this is so cool.
And it's based on the premise that not everybody's going to ask for their Bitcoin at the same time.
Now, guys, this is exactly what's happening in the gold market right now today.
And Todd, we both interviewed Andy Sheckman.
Andy Sheckman is the guy who understands this the best.
We're going to get him back on.
This is happening in gold.
So gold has been rehypothecated where, well, oh, we have so many bars in COMEX. We have so many bars in London in the...
The central banks in Britain, and we claim to have this much gold.
Now everybody's asking for the gold, and they're like, well, we don't really have it.
Todd, that's what you're talking about, and I see this happening with Bitcoin also, which means when that scheme collapses, whether it's gold, what happens when COMEX possibly defaults on gold deliveries?
What happens?
$35,000.
Gold?
Yeah, maybe so.
But what happens if, let's say, what if Coinbase were to default on Bitcoin redemptions?
What would happen to the price of Bitcoin?
It would plummet.
Because faith would be crushed like FTX. So what are your thoughts, Ashton?
There's a lot here.
There is.
I think no one can fully understand Bitcoin if they only own an ETF. You have to own Bitcoin.
You will never fully understand it unless you have at least a dollar in your own possession in cold storage that cannot be touched by anybody.
Agreed.
But more and more of the Bitcoin participants...
Look, number one, do you have any idea how many people actually have self-custody in their own wallets versus just the exchanges, not to even mention the ETFs?
Because I think, Todd, most owners of Bitcoin...
Have owned it on the exchanges, right?
Is nuts.
It's nuts.
And that's bonkers.
Leave them on the exchanges.
And I mean, you know me, I... We have covered private crypto for three and a half years.
And I will tell you, we recently have been going through a scenario where we have an exchange that is giving fair warning to get your crypto off of their exchange.
And do you know we have been at it for four months, screaming from the rooftops for people to get there?
We went from there being 3.9 million coins on this exchange to over four months, there's now 1.1 million.
We made great progress, but can you imagine?
There was 4 million coins on that exchange.
It's as easy as just taking it off, putting it in your own cold storage wallet.
It's mind-boggling.
People lost their passwords or something, you know?
They always say, if you're definitely not trading it, moving it in the next 30 days, then remove it.
But ideally, 7 days.
Move it on.
Trade to the asset you want and withdraw.
And that's why the industry tries to bring awareness to that on January 3rd, which is the day that the first Bitcoin was minted.
And it's called Not Your Keys, Not Your Coins Day.
So every year on January 3rd, they encourage everyone...
The coins that are on the exchange are not yours.
Withdraw them to prove that the reserves are 100% of the exchange and hopefully don't put them back on if you're not trading.
Withdraw them from the exchange.
It should probably be more than once a year that they give that reminder.
But there is at least that to try and remind people.
Here's what's really interesting.
The topic of counterparty risk.
If I hold Bitcoin in my own wallet, I really don't have counterparty risk because nobody else has to meet an obligation for me to have those coins.
But the minute we go into the ETF layer, now we have counterparty risk introduced into Bitcoin.
I have to trust the financial company, whoever it is, to make good on their promises.
Now gold has no counterparty risk either.
Stocks do.
Treasuries obviously do.
That's a big counterparty risk, if you ask me.
Even Tether has counterparty risk, because how do we know if Tether has the assets they claim to have?
That's a big question also.
But it seems like the ETFs have just made Bitcoin a lot more risky.
While people think it's just a way to get rich, but they're not understanding the risk.
I think, yeah, it depends which risks.
You're talking about, I guess.
If you're holding Bitcoin cold storage in your wallet, is it riskier now than it was two years ago before the ETFs?
No.
But if you are buying ETFs, which is not buying Bitcoin, you're not owning Bitcoin.
You're not owning Bitcoin at all.
It's more like owning stocks that have exposure to Bitcoin.
You understand what you're owning.
Do people understand?
Because I think people buy Bitcoin ETFs and they think they bought Bitcoin.
I hope not.
Probably some people do believe that they own Bitcoin, but try to check it up on the blockchain.
That's the ultimate answer.
Think about this too.
Take a regular stock trading company.
You log into Robinhood and you buy stocks.
You log in and you think, I own Apple.
You don't.
Robinhood owns Apple.
And Robinhood has an IOU to you.
You don't actually own that stock because your name's not on the stock shares.
And if Robinhood, God forbid, were to go under, you're screwed.
So it's the same situation with Bitcoin ETFs.
I think so.
But it was inevitably going to happen.
You can't say that it's 100% good for the industry, but it has pushed the awareness of Bitcoin.
Hopefully, some of those people who bought the ETF or they heard that there's now exposure from major institutions on derivatives of Bitcoin, they understand, hey, Bitcoin, maybe I should get actual Bitcoin.
And if it pushes them to that, then we can say, job well done.
Yeah, exactly.
Maybe ETFs can be a stepping stone for people to ultimately become holders of their own wallet.
I think a lot of people that want to diversify their investments outside of crypto, they think, okay, well, I should probably have some in the stock market.
Let's stick to the Bitcoin narrative, and they're buying MicroStrategy, or they're buying Bitcoin mining stocks.
I know many people that love Bitcoin, they have Bitcoin, but they don't have the Bitcoin ETFs necessarily, but MicroStrategy is a bit of a different...
Just strategy now, since they've rebranded, is an exposure to Bitcoin and other Bitcoin mining companies that are public companies.
It's not owning Bitcoin, but they're still exposed to the volatility of Bitcoin.
Ashton, Bitcoin was over $100,000, there's all this FOMO, and then boom, it wasn't over $100,000.
It went down.
Talk to us about margin traders.
On how much wealth was destroyed in that one fell swoop.
And I submit to you that what concerns me about all of that and the Druid Babylonian bastards now being in charge is this is so easily manipulated now by them, I believe.
I mean, they can just wipe out so much wealth and take it all back.
Can they not?
Yeah, there's some incredible numbers from the most recent liquidations in January.
And I think, you know, the market manipulators or makers, they play the narrative so well.
They think, you know, Trump's coming in.
It's going to skyrocket on the day he's coming.
You know, Trump coin, this is a sign that all of crypto is going up.
And ironically enough, the Trump coin launch in, I saw it right when it launched.
It was on the night of the crypto ball.
Which was the Friday before the inauguration a couple days later.
That really sucked the liquidity of all of the other coins of whoever DGENs were still trading moved into Trumpcoin and then all of that sort of cascaded off and sold out.
And you know Bitcoin didn't drop that much but I think all of the people who are inclined to margin trade They are also the get-rich-quick kind of people.
And they're looking at altcoins and memecoins because they think that they can out-trade Bitcoin and they can make it big quick.
So they're risking a lot.
And the liquidations, it cascades down.
When Bitcoin drops 5% because of the liquidity and the pairs for altcoins, Ethereum, and lower market cap coins.
5% on Bitcoin means 15% on Ethereum.
That means 30% on meme coins and small market cap things.
And all of a sudden, anybody who's leveraging 5x, you've lost 150%.
You're liquidated.
So the liquidations on the official numbers on the website were saying around $2 billion of funds.
It was almost a million people, over 800,000 to a million different traders lost.
$2 billion to the exchanges.
And of course, if you're trading on a centralized exchange, they can see how much your position is and where your stop loss is.
And if they want to push Bitcoin an extra $1,000 down because they know your stop loss is there and liquidate you, you're playing against the casino.
So you have to know that when you're going into these high-risk things.
But there was actually a more detailed post from the CEO of Bybit Exchange.
Which is one of the major margin derivative exchanges that he was saying the APIs actually couldn't process how much was being liquidated.
So it wasn't an accurate number.
He was estimating $8 to $10 billion was liquidated in January from that.
And even over $2 billion, it was...
So the sentiment has been really negative in the last month.
More has been liquidated than when the FTX crash happened.
And really, it's sort of a non-event.
Nothing really happened.
Besides Trump getting in and these pro-Bitcoin stances moving forward, it sounds like positivity in the market.
Besides the Trump coin launching, and then I guess the nail in the coffin was the Melania coin, which people were like, Okay, you're already siphoning money out of the market.
Three days later, you need to launch Melania Coin as well.
Now it just sounds like a big grift.
And from there, the sentiment's been quite negative.
But that's the markets of crypto.
It goes in multi-month little packets.
There's a lot of hype.
This past one was in November leading into December, and then it crashes down.
And if you look at the past four-year cycles of Bitcoin, there's always 30% retracements three or four times each time.
And Bitcoin continues to come back, but of course those market makers are playing those games with you to get the Bitcoin at a cheaper price from you, so when it keeps moving up inevitably to hundreds of thousands of dollars, they have all the money and you've lost.
Ashton, you referenced earlier degens.
Is that degenerates?
Yeah, that's the crypto term for people that are in the weeds of the coins that have just come out this day and they're trying to find the next 100x return.
So they are the...
Crypto degenerates, but they just go by degens.
Here on this show, Decentralized TV, our philosophy, and I know Todd, you'll agree with me on this, we have zero interest in meme coins and that kind of just nonsense.
Fartcoin has a billion dollar valuation for whatever reason.
People buy it as a joke, I guess.
But we have every interest in the utility.
We actually want to see a world where cryptocurrency is part of not just digital gold but day-to-day transactions and the way people interact with each other financially or give gifts to each other.
If I'm at a restaurant, I should not only be able to pay for the meal with crypto, I should be able to tip the waiter with crypto as well.
I hand out goldbacks right now.
I just give them goldbacks because I don't have to explain.
Like, oh, you need a wallet.
You've got to set it up.
Here, just have some gold.
And everybody's like, yay!
So how does crypto cross that chasm?
You've done a lot of interviews.
Do you see a pathway for it to become an order of magnitude easier somehow for people?
Right now, the way that it works is if you want to accept crypto as a tip, you're going to need a wallet of some sort.
For the most part, they're making that easy.
I'm not saying this is an optimal solution, but nowadays, a Samsung phone has a wallet built in that you could accept it on your PayPal account.
Robinhood has Bitcoin.
There's got to be an app where you have a wallet already and you don't know it.
If you're being forced to accept Bitcoin as a tip, you probably have a wallet on your phone and you don't realize it yet.
How we can make that happen where I can send somebody Bitcoin and they don't have a wallet?
Actually, one of my acquaintance friends that is working on a great project in Canada, He's worked through Costa Rica to actually tap into the cell phone network and sort of partner with the providers where I could text you some Bitcoin to your number and then you can receive a text and when you click on it,
it's sort of like opening a wallet at the same time without really realizing it and you can get that Bitcoin on your phone.
They've had those stories in Africa for like 10 years as well, the M-Pesa, where you can send Bitcoin.
Through the cell network.
Sort of avoid the wallets.
I don't know if that will catch on, but that's one alternative if you don't have a wallet.
Yeah, because everybody's got a phone number.
Yeah, you could text them their phone number, text them some crypto, and they could have it.
That would make a lot of sense.
Yeah.
Ashim, why are there so few viable use cases for crypto other than speculation?
I think it's just the technical barriers to entry.
It's sort of like the internet.
When it came out in the 90s, what were the first use cases before we realized that something like Amazon could come along and actually make our lives a lot easier?
It took a few years to realize that you wouldn't be scammed by putting your credit card on the internet.
And of course there was some along the way, which there have been in crypto as well.
But eventually the kinks were worked out and now all of a sudden you can buy something and it'll be at your house in two hours and you're not worried about...
Your credit card information or who's the person?
All that's worked out.
That's what needs to happen and is happening with crypto as well.
Bitcoin itself is at its 15-year mark, but the adoption of the infrastructure of the other blockchains and stuff, and really people didn't want to work on anything when they didn't have financial incentive to do so.
Once Bitcoin really kicked off, people said, hey, we can make companies out of this and actually provide services where we can also generate revenue as well.
And there are a lot of services now, but it's still going to take more time.
I think the catalyst of the ETF, just the awareness of Bitcoin as not being a scam, has really helped.
But now we need more companies to find ways to provide services that can integrate crypto and actually Have people not have to worry about the technical wallet and all the other stuff.
Well, maybe now under the Trump administration, with the SEC becoming more crypto-friendly, and the banking system no longer being direct enemies of crypto, then we can finally be able to develop and deploy, oh, helicopters here, deploy crypto solutions in common e-commerce platforms, which...
Really, the Biden administration was threatening banks to not do that.
Let me just plug your show on YouTube.
It's called CryptoCoin Show with Ashton Addison.
That's our guest here today, everybody.
Here it is on YouTube.
And also, you've got a Substack, which is CryptoCoinShow.Substack.com, right?
Yep.
Okay, there it is.
So, it's great for people to follow you.
How often or how many...
Yeah, I think I set out in the beginning realizing that if I wasn't going to do a lot, then it was going to take forever to get to 1,500 or 1,000 videos.
So there's multiple per week, two, three, four videos per week, depending on the market conditions and how often really good projects come along that could be the next unicorn or llama, as they say in AI and crypto.
Because I'm also looking for, you know, it's nice when you find the next Ethereum or the next Bitcoin.
There will be nothing exactly like Bitcoin, but the next blockchain technology that happens to provide that service that actually brings crypto to a billion people.
If you do get involved or invest in that in the beginning, then, you know, you can help make history.
It could be very rewarding if the infrastructure has high utility, I think.
Let me ask you, this is one of my big concerns about Bitcoin.
I know Todd shares this concern with me.
Of course, it's been compared to digital tulip bulb mania.
And the entire value of Bitcoin appears to be based on some combination of faith and an understanding of some of its intrinsic properties, like divisibility and semi-fungibility, not full fungibility, but also The fact it's very portable, you can instantly, or near instantly, within minutes, transfer it to other people.
That's very handy.
That has some intrinsic value, and the non-counterfeitability, except for rehypothecation, Todd.
But that has intrinsic value.
However, most of the value seems to be just people believing that it's going to be more valuable in the future.
So it's a perception of future value that gives it today's value.
That is a characteristic that is strongly indicative of tulip bulb mania.
And those types of projects typically end very badly.
In your view, based on your experience, is there any reason why Bitcoin won't suffer a massive loss of faith at some point?
I mean, what's your take?
No one knows the answer for sure, but I think...
Obviously, there's a difference in utility and value from the tulips, and also the fact that it will be around for, at least with Satoshi's vision, distributing new Bitcoins into the system until 2140, which is over 100 years from now, and the fact that you can transfer money around the world for pennies on the dollar compared to traditional finance.
It's not perfect.
We'll see if they work out the kinks.
But I'm not worried about that.
I've talked to people over the years that think Bitcoin is worthless or it's going to zero.
Of course, the mainstream media liked to say that for years and years.
Whenever they say, think the opposite.
Those things combined.
The price of Bitcoin just goes up from future speculation, or it actually goes up because more people start to use it or hold it.
They don't have to go down the same path.
It's sort of two different things.
So I think it'll be a combination of both.
I think that more people will hopefully start to actually use Bitcoin.
But whether people will use it as Satoshi imagined in the paper, as a peer-to-peer cash that's being transacted every day.
Most people I know, yeah, they don't want to spend their Bitcoin.
They want to hold it, and they think it has digital gold.
Maybe at one point, people did transact with gold every day, but for a short period of time compared to the length of humanity.
Right now, nobody's trading their gold.
They're storing it as value, and Bitcoin is similar to that.
Of course, there's jewelry and all this other stuff, but with the principles of money fitting those three main categories that economics professors Categorize store of value, unit of account, and unit of exchange.
Then it fits those three, and it's a new asset class altogether because of the internet.
We can now transfer it to Australia and back in seconds.
I think that 15 years is a very, very small amount of time so far to have tested out this and worked out the kinks.
Have people understand that it's not a scam.
It's part of the future of the internet and of currency.
As time goes on, of course, the blockchain keeps getting larger and larger.
And more stronger.
But also, new users, if they're going to have self-custody, they have to download the entire blockchain.
That becomes more and more cumbersome, especially for mobile devices.
What's the size of the Bitcoin blockchain?
I'm not sure on the exact size.
It's either a few hundred gigabytes, maybe 400 gigabytes or something, which will only get larger.
There is discussion around true decentralization in the currency and the fact that right now the people that are controlling the network, you need an Amazon-sized warehouse of ASICs and graphics cards to mine in the network, or you go to you need an Amazon-sized warehouse of ASICs and graphics cards to mine in the network, or you go to a cloud service, which you're just contributing to There are people that are mining themselves and
Last month, a single miner actually won the block reward.
So every 10 minutes, one person successfully validates.
So yeah, they got...
More than a quarter million dollars themselves.
They were mining with one rig by themselves.
So it is possible.
It's very unusual, though.
It is unusual.
But as more adoption happens, there's that balance.
That's winning the lottery version of mining.
Well, it's the amount of decentralization, whether it's per person or if it's warehouses.
Owned by different people and in different countries.
Depending on how you define decentralization, you can say it's decentralized.
It's not going to be on everybody's edge device, and you're not going to be able to validate yourself from something small.
Because of the restrictions and the way that if you need to record the history of all Bitcoin transactions since the beginning of time, unless we find a way to compress that to fit on your phone, you need a warehouse.
Yeah.
Well, Todd, you know, blockchain pruning.
Yeah.
It's got its advantages.
Yes.
Yes.
Hey, I have a question.
One last question for me, Ashton.
As you know from your interview with me on your show, I'm all about the search for superior money where we can all exchange value privately.
What are your thoughts on privacy tech and the future of privacy coins, such as Monero, Epic Cash, Zeno, Firo, and others?
It's a great question.
In terms of privacy coins, I've dabbled a little bit.
I have experimented with Monero and Epic Cash, transacting with them, and they do work well.
They have a decentralized network.
Is it going to be adopted by people who aren't as techy as me and are deep in the weeds of crypto?
It's hard because there's already a barrier to entry for Bitcoin and for Ethereum.
For Monero, it's more.
I think people that are searching out privacy and they're hardcore with it, it's a good solution.
But how that will reach more of an early adopters mainstream?
Well, I have an idea about that.
I think the first time that government abuses the Bitcoin blockchain and goes after a lot of people who thought their transactions were private, I can see a mad rush into Monero at that point.
And actually, from my point of view, Monero is...
It's no more difficult to use than Bitcoin.
It is slower to sync the blockchain and things like that.
But you don't have to understand how it works in order to use it.
The privacy layers can all be really hidden from the typical user where you don't have to think about it.
It's just private by default.
I think the hard part is the on-ramping and off-ramping.
Bitcoin, the knowledge that you need to understand how to transact with Bitcoin and Monero, it's the same.
It's really not that hard.
You just go in the wallet, you just choose the amount and press send.
But how do you get from US dollars in your bank into Monero conveniently?
And if the person needs to pay their rent, can they pay it in Monero?
Or how are they going to transact back?
Maybe they can move it into Bitcoin and maybe the person will pay with Bitcoin.
But those ramps.
The decentralized trading and DEXs, multi-chain especially, because Bitcoin and Monero are different blockchains, they don't have the same communication layer.
That's something that's growing right now in more of the weeds of the blockchain ecosystem, is chaining different blockchains together and growing the liquidity of them and the communication so that the applications aren't siloed.
And the liquidity can be there, and we can move from one blockchain to another in a decentralized way.
Because right now, 99% of people, they have to put their Bitcoin on the exchange, which is giving your keys to the exchange, and then tell them, trade for Monero, and then withdraw it to your wallet.
There's a lot of work in atomic swaps and swap DEXs and so on.
It seems like this year we're going to see some pretty big things announced in that realm, doesn't it?
It's continuing to grow.
Of course, the psychological barriers to entry are slightly higher, but really it's not that much different of an experience.
I'm looking forward to seeing more atomic swaps and DEXs.
I've been on the lookout for different ways to transact because if you're in Ethereum and you want to go to Solana and then you want to go to Monero, you don't want to go through bridges and waiting.
The harder it is, right?
We want this to be an Amazon experience.
Just one click and whatever you want, that's what you get.
And you don't want to swap to fail, and then you're wondering, oh my gosh, will I get my Bitcoin back or whatever, right?
So you don't really want non-custodial swaps, right?
Atomic swaps.
But it seems like that's not really mature yet in the industry.
No, it's not.
It's there on some of the chains, but not with Monero at this point.
It's not mature.
Well, there you go, Todd.
Shout out TradeOgre.com.
Yeah, you're right.
I've used that interface, and they do a great job with it.
It's really simple.
It's just clean.
And so just so that this doesn't intimidate everybody, if you want to get Monero, well, first of all, you could open up a Kraken account.
True.
And then you can exchange your surveilled asset for any of the privacy coins.
I think all of the majors are on there.
And then you can take those and Pull those into your own self-custody.
And now what's happened is you've gone from a surveillance coin to where you've just disappeared, buddy.
And now your cryptocurrency is in cold storage, in your custody.
Nobody knows you have it.
And I think, let me add CakeWallet to that shout-out, too, because CakeWallet, I think, really does a great job working with privacy.
Yeah, Cake works well.
CakeWallet, StackWallet is the other one, and it's StackWallet.
It was created by Diego Salazar, who created the cakewalk.
Okay, okay, got it.
Right.
So, I still, look, my prediction, I'd love to have your reaction on this, Ashton.
I think there's going to be a privacy wake-up event of some kind that's going to suddenly make people realize the critical importance of privacy.
You know, like, right now, people mistakenly think that Bitcoin is private.
And if you ask most casual Bitcoin users, they still think it's private, which is bizarre.
But I think there's going to be an event, I don't know if it's some kind of hack or a hack of an exchange or a hack of whatever, suddenly a lot of people's Bitcoin is going to get exposed.
And you know that can be physically dangerous, right?
You can get kidnapped in many countries and give us your Bitcoin.
Totally.
And there have been events that have happened in the recent past.
For example, tornado cash getting shut down.
That guy was just pardoned, right?
He was, yeah.
Which is great, because they're arguing it's just software, and people are hosting it on different servers.
Nobody really controls it.
In that case, there wasn't a loss of people's personal funds, so to say.
There was an exposure of some people who used it.
You weren't able to identify.
Yeah, you thought you were obfuscating where this was moving, but actually we found it.
I don't know what the event is going to be that actually helps more than 25-50% of people wake up and say, hey, I should focus on privacy more.
I think just in general, people just protecting their funds, like you're saying, I just don't want my Bitcoin to be stolen or to be hacked or to be phished.
There's all those Scams and phishing attempts going on.
If privacy coins and protocols are a solution to that, I know real well that even just scrolling through X, half of the things you can click on the one wrong link and your whole wallet will be drained.
You try to mint an NFT because you thought it was cool, and then all of a sudden you give permission to drain your wallet.
There's hundreds of different techniques.
They send you a Zoom link or Google Meet or Microsoft, and you've downloaded an EXC that's now keylogged to your computer.
There's a hundred different ways they can get at you.
When they see that this technology of privacy and privacy coins can help protect your funds, some of the exchanges when governments came and seized those funds they had Bitcoin, $100,000, some of the exchanges when governments came and seized those funds they had Bitcoin, They still don't know.
And it's like they've never found it because that is the ultimate privacy technology.
I think the mic is going to be centered around censorship and the coins out there that now purport to be censorship resistant that aren't.
Bitcoin, there are going to be people who get really, really comfy with just being free with their data.
And at some point in time, they're going to do something or there'll be a group of people doing something or whatever.
And then the DBBs will come in and they're going to shut it down and they're going to make sure that whoever has these coins can't use them.
They freeze them.
And that's where I think people, because they will have their wealth frozen, they'll say, if I could do it again, God, I wish I wasn't in a surveillance coin.
I wish I was in a privacy coin.
Well, we saw that kind of moment during COVID, right?
Government enforced lockdowns and mandates and also...
The Canadian government locking down the trucker protests, their bank accounts, and people who donated to them, their bank accounts were seized.
That was a Justin Trudeau special right there.
That woke up the whole world, actually, to the importance of really decentralizing crypto.
Everyone's forgot about it by now, except you and me.
I think a lot of people in Canada haven't forgot about that.
Even if it didn't affect them, even if they didn't donate, Anybody who has the ability to leave the country and be a digital nomad or has any sort of sense of freedom, they're still thinking about that.
Yeah.
Well, that changed my behavior.
I just encourage you, Ashton, to, because you're so prolific in your creation, is, seriously, I'm being serious on this, is give even a little bit more focus to Privacy coins and privacy projects.
Just be the tip of the spear there.
Letting people know what exists.
It's going to be fascinating because I know with Epic Cash, for example, there are now a lot of discussion around where you're going to be able to very effectively be able to email somebody some Epic Cash and have it be just an absolute private Workable transaction where nobody knows, but it still hits the blockchain.
It's nuts.
I have no idea how it's going to work, but I know it's in process.
That's the kind of stuff that we just need to keep our ear to the ground.
There's a lot of innovation.
In fact, I wanted to ask you, Ashton, from the interviews you've done over the last six months, what has really stood out for you as the most interesting projects that stand to really improve the infrastructure of crypto?
I think there's always narratives of what's the latest industry that's being disrupted with crypto or what's the latest use case.
I think that we just need, in terms of the adoption of it, it's really just...
I don't know if anybody can really help more than just the price of Bitcoin.
That really helps people get aware of it.
I don't want to say the wallet infrastructure, but having more access to it or people can think of it as easy as buying a stock, but you're actually buying something way better.
You're buying freedom with buying Bitcoin.
That's going to help with adoption.
And also the fact that with inflation and the way the economy is going, people realize I need to be investing in something that I'm not going to be losing all my money and living paycheck to paycheck.
That's just going to naturally push people into Bitcoin and crypto.
And the fact that they get to hold their own funds and all these other benefits is a nice touch on top.
But just seeing the inflation versus Bitcoin, you know, seeing iPhones or houses priced in Bitcoin over the years, the amount of Bitcoin keeps going down because nothing is being able to keep up with the value that Bitcoin is retaining.
Yeah.
But beyond that, in terms of the innovation side, is there anything on your radar that looks like a possible game changer or a way to make it much easier for people to get started?
Right now, the major thing that is going to be changing the game is AI. AI with blockchain.
It started out as, okay, we're using LLMs.
We're using ChatGPT.
I know you already have some other solutions yourself as well, but I just did an interview with one called Libertai, which is from Aleph Cloud.
They're a decentralized cloud provider with private LLMs.
And then there's another project from Eric Voorhees called Venice.ai.
Both of those LLM systems have inference where they're not tracking your information, your privacy.
You can talk to an LLM that's probably just as strong as ChatGPT or DeepSeek without giving your info to the CCP.
So that's the first step.
I'd like to talk to the first one you mentioned, especially because we'd like to just give them our upcoming LLM.
Because we have a lot of people asking if we can host it.
And I don't want to host it because it's a non-commercial model.
I don't want to charge people anything, but I can't host it for free.
Somebody else could host it and charge a hosting fee.
There's a lot of decentralized cloud solutions that are able to host it.
These guys started as a decentralized cloud and now this is a new project where they've launched the LLM private attached to that cloud.
I think they'd love this model because a lot of people want to ask health questions.
Maybe even medical questions, you know?
Exactly.
Yeah, if you're not double-checking your medical results with AI, and you're just trusting the doctor, then you just start going in blind.
Yeah, for sure.
Is it Libert, A-I-L-I-B-E-R-T-A-I? Yes, yeah.
So if you want to talk to the chatbot, it's chat.libertai.io right now.
So you can check out from there.
And it's from Aleph Cloud.
How does AI, I'm sorry for interrupting, but I have to ask this.
How is AI, from a trading standpoint, they just have to slaughter us.
That's the next step I'm about to get to.
Think of all the possibilities of when AI agents actually have functionality to do things for you.
Right now, you're going to the LLM, you ask it a question, it gives you an answer, but then you have to go and do that thing manually.
It doesn't do stuff for you.
It can't just call the doctor and book another appointment.
You've still got to do it yourself.
Now we apply that to finance and blockchain.
The AI agent is going to manage your portfolio.
It's going to rebalance based on what you think and what you say for you.
That is what's happening right now.
I've actually just had a few interviews.
A lot of the interviews in the last six months have been about AI agents and their functionality increasing.
And now we're starting to see, yes, you can manage your portfolio through an LLM. You can just type to trade, they're calling it.
We can speak to it, and then they'll be able to manage even more where they can balance and trade for you without you even saying anything.
I can see a lot of applications for this, obviously, but I can also see It's reasonable to sell at a certain threshold of plummeting value.
It's a reasonable thing to do to get out while you still have something left.
Well, if all the AI engines simultaneously decide it's reasonable to sell, they create Wow.
The crash.
And they can do it in microseconds.
That's the thing.
So now you're flooding APIs with just sell, sell, sell everything.
And I'm pretty sure a day like that's coming.
It's going to be way worse than FTX. But also a learning experience.
Maybe don't turn over all your finances to a machine.
Definitely.
Diversify.
magic number, but they say 70% or more in Bitcoin cold storage, and your speculation is 5% or 10%, depending on how risky you are.
So if AI does crash, yeah, you lose that 10%.
But you're not putting 100% leveraged to the AI agent, trade it all.
But I could definitely see something like that happening, where AI, there could be some malfunctions, or maybe they hack into the LLM and decide to trade to a coin that they own, or they decide to liquidate your funds for the sake of it.
So we'll see. - Well, it All AI engines do hallucinate in some way little artifacts in the images or the videos or the text.
They will fabricate fake citations sometimes or inappropriate citations or get the wrong dates on things.
I'm wondering what that looks like in financial trading.
To our audience, I think I would approach that with extreme caution.
If you're going to use AI in managing anything involving finances, be very cautious.
I've also said, never get an AI robot in your house that you can't physically defeat.
Or never get a robot with opposable thumbs either, because it can use tools against you.
I'm going to stick with open source.
Non-cloud-connected AI robot dogs where I control the model, but not robot humanoids with thumbs.
That's my limit.
It's coming.
By the end of 2025, there will probably be humanoid robots in some people's houses.
Maybe they're early innovators, but this year.
And they're going to be connected to the cloud, which means you're going to have a humanoid robot walking around your house reporting everything to the NSA. Kind of like what Roomba does with the vacuums with the cameras on it right now.
It's like, hey, let's crawl around people's homes and look at everything.
No, thank you.
I've got too many guns laying around for that.
I don't want all that.
I just saw the new Roomba now.
It goes up and down the stairs, too.
It's got legs.
It's got legs?
That's not at all creepy.
A vacuum that's got legs?
It could defeat your dog.
Well, maybe not my dog, but small dogs.
Todd, what do you think?
Are you going to get a robotic stair-climbing vacuum robot that can also trade Bitcoin for you?
No.
No for me, Mike.
It can engage in FOMO while it's vacuuming your hallway at the same time.
How about that?
I'll bring in a raccoon from out back, and that's about the extent of any dusting that my floors are going to get.
Well, clearly, I mean...
The world is changing rapidly, and I do believe that AGI is just about here now, and superintelligence is right around the corner.
It's happening really quickly.
And this is going to change everything in the AI realm, including the fact that the cost of cognition is going to go to about zero.
So what's the value of human cognition for an attorney or a physicist or a chemist?
That value becomes about zero.
That's depressing.
Yeah, right.
Think about it.
So if you're in the hard sciences like engineering or math or physics or chemistry, you're going to need to somehow uplift what you do beyond the parts that DeepSeek can do.
You've got to stay on the cutting edge of AI to use it for your benefit.
That's right.
A prompt engineer, right, Mike?
Yeah, you need to be a great prompt engineer and you need to be a creator of projects.
You need to be the initiator and the sculptor of projects where AI, they're your workers.
They're doing the hard stuff for you.
You don't need to sit down and do all the math.
Let the engine do the math, but you're building a new invention that it didn't think of.
Exactly.
In the next few months, we're going to see the AI functionality really come into crypto.
I'm already seeing it on some decentralized exchanges.
There's always vaporware when there's a new narrative and then it takes a while for the actual functionality to come in.
For a few years, there's been some great AI coin projects that have multi-billion dollar market caps and nobody really knows what they do.
But eventually there's going to be something that actually comes in and does something great and hopefully it benefits the people who are into decentralization, holding your own funds, trading on DEXs, managing it.
But it needs to go in a way that is in line with all of that and not just integrating the stock market into a chat GPT that's trading for you, but really you still don't own anything and you don't control anything.
Let me bring in something else here about AI. I've often believed that AI, for the most part, I believe, is going to be just looking at market activity and then making predictive decisions based on the past.
In the non-AI world, that's a technical analysis of markets.
Elliott Wave people get into that all the time.
And they're going to hate me for saying this, but I believe there is zero predictive value in technical analysis of the market.
Zero predictive value.
Because if there were, one guy would already own everything.
And that has not happened.
That what moves the market is not the past of the market, but rather real world events that happen.
Changes in regulations, storms that wipe out crops, changing the price of commodities or cacao or whatever.
Those are not reflected in the price history.
I don't think AI can predict price moves any better than anything else because AI doesn't have access to the future.
So what do you say to that?
What do you think about that?
Yeah, I guess it's definitely controversial.
Yeah, it is controversial.
Whether technical analysis has any value or not.
I think it's got zero value.
I think people draw lines on past charts and say, see, it moved.
Well, you drew the line in the past.
Draw a line of the future, motherfucker!
I mean, you can't do that!
I'm sorry, but...
I have a few friends that have actually developed algorithms, AI of some sorts, that can overlay on top of the charts and give you the signal.
And of course, it can't give you the signal of the candle that hasn't come out yet, but it'll give you the signal of where the short-term trend they think is heading.
And their percentage of success is fairly high.
Nothing is ever 100%.
There's no technical analysis that will be 100%.
Whether they're in luck and there's some rhyme or rhythm to those algorithms, it's hard to know.
There's too many factors inside the market and out, all of these other potential natural disasters and everything.
I think where AI could come into play with that is That's true.
That's a really valid point.
Quick reactions, faster than human.
But I noticed a lot of the automated trading systems, even before AI, they just traded the trend.
And what I heard from high-level people who were involved in what's called high-frequency trading, they said, the trend is your friend till the end.
And then it's not your friend, and then you're screwed.
But you're right, AI can help you react more quickly if you set conditions.
Like, hey, there's a big surprise that happened.
So reacting rapidly does make a lot of sense.
I think it's probably not for most people to be trading, especially when you get to lower time frames, unless you want to spend all day on the computer.
No kidding.
And I also think that as an end user who's not the expert in this, there's got to be a hedge fund that's got quants who are the world's top math people.
I think 99% of people that I have talked to that tried to trade in altcoins and the next Bitcoin of crypto, they probably would have been better off if they just bought Bitcoin and just held it.
Cold storage.
No trading.
If you want to get more Bitcoin, just Work and get more money and just buy it.
Just cost average into it over time and don't worry about it.
And the same thing is true for gold, right Todd?
I do not own any stocks whatsoever and I sleep so well at night because I don't worry about it.
Over the years I just accumulate gold slowly over time and I don't worry about it.
And that's it.
And it's outperformed the stock market every decade for doing nothing.
Yeah, and it'll probably continue, right?
It's looking like the trajectories.
And you don't have to research companies and convince yourself that you know something that somebody else doesn't know.
You can query it, Mike.
I mean, I went out back and I got my shovel and I dug up some of my fold and I asked it, when moon?
And it started going from 2,000 to almost 3,000, Mike.
It almost went to the moon.
That's right.
That's what you're saying.
Yeah, I mean, gold's up 50% since...
But what about when we start mining asteroids that have gold on them?
The extreme cost of bringing that gold here is the prohibitive factor.
But then, you're right, what if there is heavy lift anti-gravity propulsion tech that is three orders of magnitude less expensive than current tech?
And probably AI would be the thing that comes up with that tech.
Probably.
And then you could capture asteroids and bring them.
But how do you bring an asteroid to Earth without slamming into the Earth and causing a disaster?
Because gravity.
So I'm not worried about that scenario at the moment.
Well, we know there's no Bitcoin in the asteroids.
At least I think there's not.
So we know that there's 21 million less when you consider the amount lost.
But the same AI that comes up with anti-gravity tech could come up with quantum encryption tech that defeats the crypto in crypto.
So that's the same kind of threat.
It's been a discussion on whether quantum computing will be able to unencrypt Bitcoin.
But the encryption is pretty strong.
Both the encryption and the quantum computing to attack it will sort of both evolve at the same time.
I don't think it will be able to break the chain.
Especially Mimble Wimble.
Yeah, but all the world's best mathematicians 10 years ago thought we wouldn't get to AGI until 2050. And now we have it probably now.
And they were all wrong.
The smartest people in the world.
We're all wrong.
All times change.
The smartest economists in the world, the smartest stock investors in the world think Bitcoin is nothing.
Yeah, they're crazy.
Ashton, do you think the Trump administration will put a nail in the coffin of the CBDCs, the Central Bank Digital Currencies?
Well, they said that they, you know, I think there was some legislation that just came out recently.
Maybe it was in Miami.
In Florida, they're saying, you know, we're not going to let that happen.
At least not the government.
Yeah, it could just be, you know, Trump's, his company on the side does it instead.
Liberty World, World Liberty Fi is the one that creates it.
And yeah, it's not the government, but it's still there.
Right now, what we're seeing with the two major stablecoins, you know, USDC and USDT. There's a bit of a battle going on between that.
And USDC is sort of the closest thing that we have to a CBDC. They could easily make a partnership with the government and joint merger or something like that.
There's a lot of legislation around that with Circle controlling it.
And USDT, it's been around.
It was around before Circle.
That was the main coin.
And it's not really as owned by the big folks that control everything.
And they are trying to ban it.
I think they just banned in Europe from last month, at least crypto.com.
They just delisted USDT because it wasn't following the MICA European regulations.
So I think it's great that there's options for stablecoins.
And it's necessary, especially in decentralized finance or just in crypto at all, if every single asset is volatile.
Where's the stability?
We need something without having to go back to US dollar that we can have that we know it's going to be the same price tomorrow.
I've always thought the problem with Tether is it's not a stable coin because the dollar's not stable.
That's where buoyancy stable coins come in.
There's been experiments with that too.
There's been experiments with...
Different assets backing the stablecoin.
Not dollars, but a basket, a gold.
I've seen many gold-backed coins over the years, and they haven't figured it out yet.
No, because the physical vaulting and auditing is really difficult for anybody to trust.
And they're experimenting with buoyancy stablecoins where it's staying on top of inflation, so it's a true $1, not $1 inflated a few years ago.
But they're working out the kinks on that.
I think a stablecoin is really critical for e-commerce also, for merchants.
You don't want to take that risk as a merchant accepting it.
But I don't trust Tether either because of the lack of really rigorous audits.
And a lot of what they claim to hold are treasuries, and I think treasuries are going to be worth about zero.
You say you have dollars, but you don't.
You have debt.
Treasury debt.
And treasury debt is...
Based on the ability of the U.S. government to confiscate taxes from the American people.
That's the only thing that has value in the Treasury.
Even the Treasuries were created by owing money to the Fed, which is an international banking cabal that's not even controlled by the U.S. government.
That chain of trust from Tether to Treasuries to the Fed, that breaks three times in my mind.
I don't trust any of it.
There are other coins that have sort of It's got to be on the right blockchain so it can communicate with Bitcoin and the other ones, and it has to be on all of the exchanges.
If it's only on one exchange and no one else uses it, then you're isolated to this silo.
No one's using it.
Very true.
And Monero has that problem because it got wiped out of all these exchanges.
And with the percentage of centralized exchanges right now versus decentralized, if those centralized exchanges say, we don't want that coin, then there's nothing that you can do at the moment.
That's right.
Yeah, and when Monero got dropped, I think, from Coinbase, the value of Monero really plummeted.
And I thought that was crazy.
I'm like, who's keeping Monero on Coinbase?
Apparently a lot of people were.
I had no idea.
We're in this shift where I actually just interviewed Coinbase again this week.
It's coming out, if you check on the show, they're head of advanced trading.
They were talking about Base, which is their chain layer 2 on Ethereum, and also Coinbase wallet, and how they're looking at decentralized trading options, which I don't know how it could be decentralized if Coinbase is running it, and also about They're starting to talk about the future of stocks and equities being tokenized, which I think we're on the cusp of now.
Once the Bitcoin ETF gets saturated and the big institutions are thinking, how can we make more?
What's the next thing?
Here comes the tokenization of the stock market.
Let me ask you about the tokenization of government spending.
This is where cryptocurrency can really be amazing with all the transparency.
With what's come out recently with all the slush fund crap with USAID and other agencies and what Doge and Elon Musk are doing exposing all this waste and fraud, I've been saying and a lot of people are saying that all government spending should be on a public blockchain where we should be able to surveil the government to look at it.
Instead, what we've had is just a bunch of creepy black boxes everywhere, secret slush funds going into things that we would never want to fund.
And so the whole thing's been inverted.
The government spies on us, but we can't see what the government's doing.
But isn't cryptocurrency a really perfect use case is to force the government to have all cash flows on a public blockchain?
I think that would be great.
Elon wants to put it on the Doge blockchain just for the irony and comedic effect of it.
That's been one of the biggest use cases for voting, too, of course.
One vote, it's on the blockchain, it's transparent.
And accounting, of course.
But the process in which that starts to happen, there's going to be some kinks that need to be worked out.
How do we get them?
Of course, they won't want to do it.
We're already in the first steps of exposing the fraudulent transactions and why is 50 million going to condoms over here and there?
Get rid of that stuff so then we can put legit transactions on the blockchain.
But what the first transaction will be, maybe it'll be...
We'll see.
Or they could launch a new blockchain.
Yeah, they could launch their own.
BitGov or whatever, and the only purpose of it is just to bring transparency to government spending.
And there are enterprises, many that use private blockchains, which are not actually blockchains.
But the enterprise Ethereum alliance works with hundreds of companies that use private versions of Ethereum.
They're permissioned.
They're centralized.
But it would probably have more transparency and accountability than the system that they're on right now.
So if that's one step in the right direction, then we'll take it.
But ideally, fully decentralized public blockchain that everything can be seen.
Would that be cool, Todd?
If we could just load up the government spending blockchain and just see where it's all going?
Did you say BitGov?
Yeah, I said BitGov.
That would be perfect.
It should be called BitGov.
Yeah, why not?
They'll have one giant wallet called Defense.
It'll actually be like every secret DARPA mind control program under this giant wallet that'll get like $2 trillion a year, but whatever.
We need transparency of government spending.
Clearly, that's the case.
So that's a great use case.
Yeah, I think so.
And we'll see...
Doge is moving really quickly.
And they say it themselves.
We're going to make mistakes while we go, but we need to move fast.
And Elon and Big Balls and the rest of the team are doing all they can.
I think they're doing a great job so far.
I think if you look at the U.S. debt clock...
They have a new category for Doge, and they're at $84 billion saved so far.
It's only been a month.
$84 billion.
So they're hoping to get to trillions in savings.
And they will.
They will.
It's crazy.
Because there's a lot of waste in the system.
We need some arrests, right, Mike?
Yeah, let the arrests begin.
I mean, this is, look, actually, here's my political prediction, if you're wondering.
It's related to all this.
I think we're going to see a wave of resignations from Congress over the next two years.
And what's actually happening behind the scenes is the Doge team finds that this money traces to this congressman, let's say.
And then the DOJ goes to the congressman and says, hey, resign or be arrested.
It's really that simple.
You're going to see a wave of resignations.
I think we'll see that in the next month or two.
They're so fast.
because they already had the top five congressmen and members of the Senate and their salaries and their net worth.
And they're like, you know, once Elon posts it, like, for example, this morning, there was a hit article out from Reuters on Doge.
And he said, hey, Doge, investigate this.
And it only took two hours for them to come out with...
Oh, how Reuters got money.
Yeah.
It only took two hours to come out with $50 million to Reuters for social...
It was a sign-off program.
Yeah, it was just a program.
It only took them two hours to just totally take them out once they put a piece on them.
They're already looking at it, and it should be in the coming weeks.
No, I'm familiar with...
I mean, that's really cool.
And that Reuters did take millions of dollars.
I think it was from the Department of Defense.
It was to run...
A social engineering PSYOP mind control experiment pretending to be the news.
And that's what Reuters is every day, actually, it turns out.
And Associated Press.
That's why I love what you do and what we're doing here, because we're the independent media.
We are willing, obviously, to say controversial things and ask big questions.
And we're not paid off.
You know, to push a particular narrative, right?
Or to ignore a scandal.
Because that's what happens all over media.
They get paid, you know, like brought to you by Pfizer.
Just looking for the truth.
Right, exactly.
Well, Ashton, is there anything else you'd like to add here as we wrap this up?
I'm sure we're way over time.
I apologize for keeping you.
We're covering so much great stuff that I have no time limit.
There's so much to talk about and hopefully the viewers are still deep in this because this is juicy stuff and it's up to date and stuff is moving so fast.
The Trump administration came in.
You're so busy.
Blockchain continues to build block by block.
It's not going to stop.
They say if you're not keeping up in crypto, then you're not trying hard enough because there's so much going on, never mind the rest of the world, that it's so fascinating.
and that's why I'm so interested in blockchain because it's the future and it's being built block by block as we watch it every day.
True, true.
Well, keep doing what you're doing.
Let me plug your YouTube channel again.
It's called Crypto Coin Show.
It's on YouTube.
Any other platforms where you're posting?
Rumble maybe?
I do syndicate and...
I actually was syndicating to Rumble, Odyssey, but the Rumble syndication for YouTube was cut off.
So we've got to talk to them.
So we have to manually upload it.
It's nice when you don't have to do it twice.
I wish the channels were bigger than YouTube so we didn't have to use YouTube.
But this is where we are.
You're going to have an AI agent on your desk soon that will do the posting for you.
Tell it to post to Brighteon when that day comes.
We welcome you on brighteon.com as well.
You'll have the agent do it for you.
No problem.
Also, you have a substack called cryptocoinshow.substack.com.
Todd, anything else you want to add here as we wrap this up?
Yes.
Ashton, do you think somebody starting now can create lasting wealth within crypto?
Of course.
I know people that started way after me and in months they've changed their life.
It's just about taking action.
You have to have faith and you need to take that step yourself as well and they'll meet you in the middle.
It's never too late.
That's one thing that I often hear about people that aren't in Bitcoin and they heard it going up.
They're like, it's probably too late.
Back in 2017, Bitcoin's 21,000.
It's probably too late.
Next cycle, 70,000.
It's probably too late.
It's never too late.
Even with just Bitcoin alone as one example, Michael Saylor's predicting Bitcoin Millions and millions of dollars per Bitcoin.
Everyone else predicting multiple hundreds of thousands.
Even if you got into something and you doubled your money and it took a few years, stable, at least you're in something that you believe in and is helping change the world for the better.
After listening to you, I would say to our viewers, and I'm just being you right now, is if you want to get involved now, invest in Bitcoin.
And then when you get kind of over your skis and you get really excited and you think you're smarter than everyone else and you're going to start doing the shitcoin trading and such, or the memecoin, sorry, trading, just want what you have, which is your Bitcoin.
Just keep it, keep it, and it'll keep going up and just resist the temptation to blow it on something else.
Is that fair?
Most of the time, that's how it works.
If you're interested in a specific industry, all industries will be disrupted by blockchain and crypto, whether it's to store data or do transactions.
If you have a particular interest, see how blockchain can apply to that and make a difference in making the industry that you like More decentralized and more free.
And for the people who are younger, get interested in blockchain technology.
Because this is going to be the future.
And if you are smart enough to just start following along and start understanding the language, you're going to be smarter than 99.9% of the rest of your peers.
And you just never know.
You might land on your feet doing something within blockchain technology and being that tip of the spear where you might get some unique insight to where all of a sudden you...
And Todd, I would add, I love what you just said.
I would just add to it.
Everybody has to become competent in AI terminology, too.
You need to understand prompt engineering.
You need to understand how to use the AI engines to get what you want out of them and to understand their limitations.
But yes, blockchain and crypto, it's a necessary knowledge area, I think, to function in our modern world.
And AI, now.
And if you don't learn these two things, you'll be left behind financially and you'll be left behind professionally.
You'll be obsolete in a year.
I have staff members that do video editing.
I have intentionally given each of them a music video project task and said you have to do it with AI. And I've given them AI tools and subscriptions to do it.
I said, you have to do this with AI. Forcing them, even if they didn't want to do it themselves, I'm like, you go here, you use Kling, you use Runway, you use these tools, you generate this with AI, you use AI transcription.
And then they do that once, after a little bit of grumbling sometimes, they do it once and they're like, this is awesome!
I'm like, yes.
So now you can do it.
Now it's second nature, right?
But that's the way it works with everybody.
Same thing with crypto.
Like first time you download a wallet, you install a wallet, you're like, oh my God.
And the first time you have Bitcoin and you send a transaction and then the change disappears and you think you lost everything.
You freak out, right?
And then you're waiting for the change to come back or whatever.
And then you're like, oh, now I get it.
Then it becomes second nature.
You just got to dive in and do it.
There's no other way but to take action.
Get involved.
Exactly.
All right.
Well, Ashton, it's been a pleasure.
Thank you so much for being here.
This has been a ton of fun.
And thank you for putting up with my questions.
Sometimes, you know, I mean, Todd and I both do this.
We play a little devil's advocate sometimes just to see where your philosophy is and see what you're thinking about this.
But we all believe in decentralization and we want people to get up to speed on all of this.
And Todd, of course, we'll take a quick break.
We'll come back with the after party.
But Ashton...
Is free to go now.
He's survived our interrogation for the last hour and a half.
Good job, Ashton!
Thank you, guys.
I really appreciate it.
You were great.
It was a pleasure.
Alright, so hang out, Todd.
And for everybody watching, we'll be right back after this quick break with the after-party discussion.
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All right, welcome back, everybody, to this after party for Decentralize TV.
And, of course, I apologize.
I went way over time.
I got totally lost.
I was having such a great conversation with Ashton there.
He's being so polite.
He probably needs to go eat dinner or something, but he was just, like, chilling with us.
So I went over time.
I apologize.
But, man, wasn't that a really great, like, summary of years of knowledge about crypto, huh?
It really is.
He has so much substance and he's just got such a nice way about him.
And when you go to his channel...
He's really easy to talk to.
Yeah, he is.
He is.
And, you know, we've done enough of these interviews.
Some interviewers are like pulling teeth and others aren't.
And this one wasn't, you know?
Right, right.
No, he was really perfect, yeah.
Yeah, he's perfect.
And so everybody, please go to the Crypto Coin Show and give him a like and a follow.
Follow along.
You're going to be smarter for it.
And as we said during the show, that you have to be interested in this.
You just do.
Otherwise, you're going to be left behind.
That's true.
And I think it's okay that I say this, but I asked him as he was leaving, I said, can we spider your channel and use all the transcripts of all your videos to train our next AI model?
Oh, that's great.
Because we've been given that permission by a lot of content creators, a lot of websites and publishers, etc.
And he said, yeah, no problem.
So we'll do that.
It won't be in the model that we have that's about to launch, but it'll be in one summertime.
Yeah, that's great.
This is the first time I'm even saying this on air.
We're also going to be releasing a reasoning model that has a knowledge base of our data set.
So that, like, imagine DeepSeek R1 DTV version.
Right, that's great.
Right?
That's coming.
Cool.
God bless the rest of the world, man.
Yeah.
I mean, imagine you combine our knowledge base with reasoning models that can, you know, think through processes.
Yeah.
Game changer.
Wow.
Yeah, good stuff.
And of course, it'll be free and open source for everybody.
Just like this show is free and open source.
Todd, you know, we're coming up on almost two years of doing the show.
Can you believe that?
I can't.
I mean, I really can't.
This has gone by so quickly.
But, boy, what a pleasure it's been, Mike.
It's been really amazing.
I've really enjoyed doing these shows with you, Todd.
And we've had just an incredible assortment of guests.
And you've made so many great suggestions, too, about guests like Ashton today.
So we'll just keep doing that.
And I want to introduce something new that we have released here.
If you go to brightlearn.ai, and this is all free, but brightlearn.ai will forward you to this Brighteon page.
We also have a channel on Rumble.
But what we're doing, Todd, is we're taking all of my interviews, including these interviews for this show, but my other interviews as well.
And you see all these thumbnails with the orange color?
They're all interviews.
And we take the transcript and feed it into our AI engine and we ask it to generate a narration script.
It generates the narration script and then we use AI voices and AI illustrations to make a highlights video that tells the story of our interview.
And we're doing it for...
Right now we're working on current and going backwards in time through the year 2024. Man, that's great.
So every interview we did in 2024 will be covered in this format.
That's amazing.
And the skill required to prompt all of that to do it, I have way more respect for now after trying my experiment this morning with Hedra.
Oh, yeah.
Well, let's tell people about that.
So I'm about to release a music video.
Called Vaccine Zombie.
And one of my graphic designers, I said, he created this really great video.
And at one point, going back, Vaccine Zombie is a song that I originally released in 2011. But everything in the song has come true.
And now we have all these AI engines.
And with RFK Jr. being head of HHS, I said, you know, we've got to release the song again.
So I used Suno to redo the music and vocals.
And then I had...
My graphics guy do the zombie music video, and at one point in the video, it looked like the zombie was trying to sing the lines.
And I said, dude, you need to actually intentionally have a zombie sing the song with lip syncing.
And so he found a tool called Hedra that does that.
And so I sent you that video of, I think that was a test clip of the zombie lip syncing the song.
It was amazing, yes.
Yeah, like freaky but hilarious, right?
Yes.
And then you said, maybe I can use the tool for my face, right?
So tell us the rest.
What happened?
Yeah.
So I woke up this morning.
I was all excited.
And I got my picture of me kind of dressed like this.
And, you know, it's a good picture.
And I uploaded it.
And then I wrote.
Basically, a 60-second infomercial for my575e.com.
I thought, if I was going to use AI and succinctly describe what my575e is, it would be this.
And it was, I think, really good, tight, informative text.
And so then I went through the process.
My picture I uploaded.
And sure enough, it converted it, and all of a sudden, my picture came to life.
And it's like, not even just moving the lips like this.
No, it was like showing inflection where the head moved.
And the eyes and blinking and everything.
And the eyebrows go up, and it's all about the vocal inflection.
It was amazing, right?
Right.
So, I don't have that great of a self-filter.
You know, so when I looked at it, I was just like, this is cool!
And so I went down and I showed my wife and I said, oh, look at this.
I'm going to post this.
This is an infomercial for my 575E. And she said, if you post that, I'll divorce you.
What was wrong with it?
Oh, it was just so bad.
I posted it to a couple of friends, and they're like, creepy.
Creepy Todd, huh?
Yeah, so I decided, okay, well, we're going to do a paired comparison, and I went into the studio where I am now, and I recorded it with just me, and then I showed my wife, and I said, no divorce attorneys, honey, and I showed it to her, and no, we're good.
As you were describing it, I was thinking there is a really great use case for it.
So, yes, don't use Hedra to replace yourself, because you have you.
You can always film you.
Right.
But what you don't have is imaginary creatures that could be part of this message.
What if your message was, the IRS can really be a demon, and then you have a demon talking about...
You know, we're going to come audit your taxes, and it's this horrible flaming demon.
Like, Hedra would be really great at animating that.
Okay.
Right?
That's a challenge.
Yes.
I tell you, and you have to be feeling this with Suno and your music.
It's like food for your soul when you get into it.
Oh, man.
It's a ton of fun.
It's a ton of fun.
And then you can just, you're like, yeah, I didn't quite like that or didn't like how that sounded, and so you edit it a little bit, and then you just, you know, recalibrate it or whatever they say, re-render it, and oh, it's so cool.
So it's a roll I'm going down.
I've got a new song.
I want to actually play a little clip for you here.
I've got a new song.
I'm actually rolling out seven or eight songs.
Let's see.
Oh, your songs have been so good.
This one, but what's astonishing, I'll just play a little clip here.
This one is called Doing Alright, and the human-sounding inflections of the voice are just unbelievable.
Like, you would never know this was AI if we weren't saying...
Let me just play a few seconds, okay?
This is really something.
check this out did you hear that The point I was trying to make is that it's just like crazy...
I mean, it's really human sounding.
Yeah, it's nuts.
The inflection, the emotion, everything.
Right.
I can almost visualize the person singing it.
Yeah, so...
At least in the realm of audio, AI has become really good.
Now, video and animating human faces is always going to be really difficult because we're very sensitive to the way, you know, facial expressions, like our neurology is really tuned into that, right?
But just how far it's come in the last year.
Yeah.
I mean, I saw some of the Hydra examples, and it's...
Astonishing.
I mean, I think if I had better photographer and if I was better looking, Mike, it would have been better.
Hedra, hedra, on the wall.
Who's the fairest of them all?
Make me look good again.
And it replaces us with Brad Pitt.
That's not what I meant.
But AI, I mean, there's no question it's going to change so much of our world.
And also, Getting back to crypto and our topic today, I think that Trump is doing some kind of a big currency reset, frankly.
And I think he's got a plan for some kind of digital system to play a role.
Not a CBDC, that he's not going to do that.
Some kind of a digital system.
And frankly, we need something that is a digital system backed by something.
Like gold, maybe.
Because this dollar system, these banks, they suck.
Wiring money.
I mean, they built that in the 70s.
That thing's obsolete.
Right.
You know, Swift.
There's nothing Swift about it.
They should call it slow ass, you know?
I mean, it's all outdated.
We're ready for something new.
Yeah.
Well, you know, he's been there a month.
Let's give him another two, three weeks to figure that out.
Yeah, it's a big project.
We get it.
Totally.
Oh, but anyway, what I was saying on brightlearn.ai, let me just finish this up.
The blue backgrounds are books.
So we're also doing this treatment to books.
This is called Shadow Government here.
That's the name of the book.
Or Poison Spring, The Secret History of Pollution.
What's great about this is we don't ask for permission from the book authors.
Instead, these are reports about their books and we help promote their books.
So we give a link for people to buy their book to support them and support the author.
But we don't run around asking permission because we don't need permission to talk about somebody's book.
That's perfect.
But these are awesome books.
We're going to do G. Edward Griffin's book, The Creature from Jekyll Island.
And if you look at what we've been doing, Fed Up, an insider's take on why the Federal Reserve is bad for America.
What a great concept for a book.
And if you go in, I'm not going to play the audio here, but here's the illustrations, all AI illustrations with captions.
So if you want to see a nice review, a nice report about this book, here it is.
And these are all free.
They're all available at brightlearn.ai.
That's amazing.
It's amazing.
How cool is that, huh?
I mean, you could just binge in there.
Oh, man.
And we're doing like four books a day.
Are you really?
Yeah, we're doing four books a day right now.
So, yeah, I love watching these.
All right.
With that said, We're going to play your video clip about My575E.com, but tell us about what that is first before we get to the clip.
Yeah, look, if you earn income, W-9 or W-2, You're just going to want to pay attention.
You're going to want to visit my575e.com.
Now, there are 32 positive attributes of operating your own UNA, but just on the income alone, being able to keep more of what you earn.
We now, Mike, it's really cool in the private telegram group that when somebody acquires a UNA, they get invited into that, and it's become a really, really good tight-knit...
There's about 120 operators in there now, and all of them, most of them have come through DTV or through, if they've heard your broadcasts, and I've been on those, and they are like-minded people, right?
And it's just so cool to see the fact that if you out there are wondering, well, it just sounds too good to be true or something, well, it's not.
And there are a whole lot of people that are in there that have gone through the process.
They've watched the 90-minute video.
They've downloaded the PDF. They've reviewed it.
Many, many of them have booked a private consultation with me so that I can answer their questions.
And then they acquire UNA. And then they are getting a unique taste of freedom.
So I encourage people, watch this little video at the end.
And then just give it some consideration.
Very cool.
Okay, that's my575e.com, and you've done some amazing things with your website there, educational and unincorporated nonprofit association is what you're talking about there.
So that's a structure that's definitely worth people learning about and checking out.
And I want to mention here, what I've got going on is rangerdeals.com, where we've put together some discounts on a lot of third-party products that I don't sell, but I do endorse.
Like ivermectin for pets here.
You wonder where you can get ivermectin for your dogs or your goats or your donkeys or your unicorns.
This works for unicorns too.
10% off ivermectin for pets and unicorns.
And lab verified goldbacks, etc.
You can go through here.
We've got various forms of gold and silver.
We've got a number of different things.
Above phone, the satellite phone store.
Lots of discount codes, even on firearms and holsters and accessories and Nessa's hemp here, things like that.
So check all that out at rangerdeals.com and use discount code ranger, typically, to save on these various offerings.
If I self-identify as a unicorn, can I get ivermectin for me too, Mike?
That's a conversation between you and your veterinarian, actually, it turns out, yes.
It's like, well, hey, you know, some biological men want to go into a gynecologist and get treated as a woman, right?
Like, that's still going on in America.
So the doctor has to, like, play along, play doctor, imagination.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Imaginary biology.
So at least in Biden's world, you could go in and say you were a unicorn, but maybe in the Trump era, that's not going to fly anymore.
Although unicorns do fly.
They do.
I think Trump's hitting control-alt-delete on a whole lot of that.
I think it's time to reboot that, indeed.
If not blue screen of death, that whole thing, like a Windows computer shutting down.
Bill Gates did give us something useful other than depopulation vaccines, it turns out, and death mosquitoes.
He gave us the blue screen of death, the best metaphor for shutting down government.
Okay.
I guess that's it.
So, Todd, any final words before we go to your clip?
No, I think this might be our first two-hour episode, Mike.
Oh, my goodness.
I can't believe it.
But really packed with information.
A lot of knowledge here.
Everybody, you know, learn about this and get up to speed on your skills.
You're going to need it because tech is changing really quickly.
Can I make a suggestion?
A light suggestion that I think I would learn a ton from?
Yeah.
But at some point in time, in your own way, Maybe you could pull together a little education on prompt engineering.
So some of us might know the tools that are out there, but we're kind of clueless.
And maybe instead of reinventing the wheel, we could at least start playing with it with a little bit of guidance.
I think that'd be a great value add.
I'm glad you asked.
Okay, so if people go to brighton.ai, the website here, it will radically change right before the 1st of March.
You can enter your email there to get access to the free model when it's available.
But we're going to completely change this website, Todd, and I'm going to be hosting videos about prompt engineering.
Oh, that's awesome.
Yeah, just like how-to videos, how to get the results you want, how to use the language model for article generation, summarizing, expanding bullet points, correcting text, all kinds of things.
Language translations, you name it.
That's going to yield so much fruit, Mike.
I mean, it really is.
We're doing that because I can't wait.
It's going to be awesome.
I can't wait either, frankly.
And this is the first model of many that we are producing because we're constantly, we have a pipeline of new incoming data like today, Ashton giving me permission to crawl his channel, right?
And this happens all the time.
So many, many people are giving me new data, new sources, and then we have to process that, normalize that, and then incorporate it into the training process, which takes a considerable amount of time.
But over time, throughout the year, we'll have more and more advanced models, and my hope is that maybe by late summer we can have a reasoning model released also that will know the truth about, oh, dare I say, jabs?
Perfect.
And pharma, and who knows?
Who knows what else?
History?
Yes.
Got to be interesting.
All right.
So thank you, Todd, for the time today, and this has been a ton of fun.
All right, Mike.
Thank you.
Have a great weekend.
Can't wait to see you next week.
Okay.
You too, Todd.
Thank you so much.
And for those of you watching, again, check out all the episodes at decentralized.tv.
I think you'll enjoy them and you'll find they are very informative and evergreen.
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