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Feb. 5, 2025 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Welcome to Brighteon Broadcast News with Mike Adams, the Health Ranger.
Thank you for joining me today, Brighteon Broadcast News for Wednesday, February 5th, 2025. I'm Mike Adams.
Thank you for joining me today.
Our special guest today is Colonel Douglas McGregor.
We've got a full interview coming up here shortly.
Also want to thank you for your positive feedback on the little kind of half-joking little music thing that I did yesterday called Metal Symphony.
Just demonstrating that AI can create music.
And we actually got quite a few comments of people saying, hey, I want to hear the whole song.
Do the song!
And of course, I was just joking.
I just wrote up a few lines.
I was joking about a heavy metal symphony.
And then a person that works with me said, that's my favorite style!
It's like classical symphony music with heavy metal guitar riffs.
I didn't even know that was a style.
So, apparently, we've opened up a whole new box of possibilities there, and the feedback has been so positive on some of the songs that we've already put out.
Actually, we've only put out a couple.
I've now got six more songs in the queue, and we've decided that the songs are great.
I mean, we're hearing that from people.
It's not just me saying it, but people are loving it.
I played my country western song at a church service, and people there were like...
That should be a country western hit song.
Like, that's an instant hit.
I mean, another guy said, you know, it brought him to tears hearing that song.
And, you know, these songs are moving people.
So, announcement here, we've decided we're going to put them into distribution to get them on channels like Spotify, you know, or services, music platforms like Spotify, etc., I suppose, until they get banned.
Which probably won't take long.
The first time we have, you know, vaccine zombie, then it'll be like, oh, you're banned, you know?
But in the meantime, we're going to put out songs and music videos at a pretty steady pace here for quite some time and get them listed through major music distribution channels.
So that would perhaps allow you to enjoy them more easily.
In the meantime, you could go to music.brighteon.com and you can see the songs we have there right now, which is just the beginning.
We're just getting started.
There's a lot more coming.
All right, there's a lot of just absolutely stunning news that's happening, of course.
RFK Jr., he made it through the Senate Finance Committee confirmation process.
So he passed the committee.
I think the vote was 14 to 13, so it was very, very close.
And now he goes to the full Senate floor vote, which is still up in the air.
We don't know if he's for sure.
Got the votes to be confirmed and a couple of senators really demanded all kinds of crazy conditions like, you know, you'll never say that vaccines are dangerous or you'll never do anything to remove any vaccines from the childhood immunization schedule, etc.
And, you know, RFK Jr. has apparently made a lot of promises to a lot of senators who are all big pharma whores and this is concerning some people.
So, I recorded a special report earlier I want to play for you here.
It's called, RFK Jr. is going undercover to expose America's corporate drug traffickers.
See, this is the way I look at it, that he's actually kind of going, I mean, if he's confirmed as HHS, he's going to be going undercover, in essence.
And when you go undercover, you know, you have to trick the drug traffickers to let you into their club.
Just like if you're law enforcement, you're doing the same thing.
That's what he's doing with the Senate.
He's trying to get confirmed so he can get in there and expose the drug traffickers.
So check out the special report, and I'll be back with more news on the other side.
So RFK Jr. has made it through the Senate Finance Committee confirmation.
This is just one of two major steps here.
He still has to survive a floor vote of the full Senate, and that's going to be very, very close.
So I really want to urge you right now listening to this, if you support strong FDA reforms and pushing back against big pharma, etc., and I believe this is what RFK Jr. stands for.
I'll talk about that in a minute.
Please call your senators and urge them to support RFK Jr.'s nomination.
That vote is coming maybe tomorrow or the next day.
It's right around the corner.
Maybe, I mean, it could be as early as today.
We'll see.
But there's quite a bit of controversy, of course, over some of the things that RFK Jr. has said during his confirmation hearings.
For example, RFK Jr. said in the hearings that he fully supports the full childhood immunization schedule, something that you listening to this probably do not support.
I certainly do not support it.
I think virtually the entire vaccine industry is a...
It's a scam and a hoax and a way to harm children.
And it causes autism and it causes turbo cancers and many other horrific things.
But RFK Jr. said some things that the senators wanted to hear.
He even said that he thought Operation Warp Speed was a great success.
And this has rubbed a lot of people the wrong way in MAGA movement or health freedom movement, America First, you know, different labels for different segments of it.
And many of these people, or some of these people, are really incensed over what RFK Jr. has said.
And I've thought about this quite a lot for a few days, and I've got an answer for you.
And this gets into integrity, ethics, philosophy, all of it.
But here's the thing.
Let me ask you a question.
Is it morally wrong to deceive a group of people who are themselves evil deceivers who are intent on harming children and protecting the profits of an evil industry that generates money off of sickness and disease and death?
Is it morally wrong, in other words, to deceive an evil party when your intention in your heart is to ultimately halt their harm, to stop them from harming children?
Is it morally wrong to deceive them?
And ethically, the answer is no.
It is not morally wrong to lie to Satanists or to traitors or to an evil cabal.
And you already knew this answer because if you look at law enforcement, let's say there's an undercover cop.
Undercover cop gets in with the narcos or the drug traffickers and the cop pretends to be One of their friends.
In order to catch them in the crime of drug trafficking, humans trafficking, weapons trafficking.
Now, I don't think there's anybody here who would argue that that is ethically wrong to deceive drug traffickers, right?
In order to go undercover as a cop, you have to deceive them.
Otherwise, they'll never let you in their group and you won't be able to catch them in their crimes.
Well, senators are drug traffickers.
Senators, at least the ones voting against RFK, they are in with the big pharma drug cartel.
They are the same as drug traffickers, except they're drugs that kill people and harm people and addict people in some cases.
Their drugs are legal.
It doesn't mean that their drugs are any less destructive or less evil.
So, in essence, RFK Jr. is functioning as someone who is trying to go undercover.
To get into the group of HHS and FDA and CDC, but as an undercover cop, he's actually working for the people.
He's working to stop their crimes.
He's working to protect the American children and the American people from the evil, insidious nature of these drug traffickers, which includes, you know, Senator Elizabeth Warren, for example.
She is an apologist for a drug trafficking industry.
And much more, you know, a lot more evil that comes out of her.
But that's just one example.
So with that understanding, my conclusion is it is not morally wrong to lie to drug traffickers when it is your intention to stop their harm.
And interestingly, he needs their permission.
He needs their vote in order to get in.
So just like an undercover, you know, A cop would have to say to the drug traffickers, like, yeah, I'm one of you.
You know, he has to dress like them.
He has to talk like them.
He has to walk like them.
He has to, maybe even he even does some of the cocaine like they do or something.
You know, to prove he's not a cop, he does a little cocaine.
That is actually part of the job of going undercover.
And it would be crazy to condemn that undercover cop for, oh, how dare you talk like a drug trafficker?
Well, he's pretending to be a drug trafficker to join their club to get in there, to expose them and ultimately arrest them and shut them down.
Again, that's what RFK Jr. is doing.
He is speaking to the senators in the language that they want to hear.
And yes, he is deceiving them, I believe.
I can't speak for him.
I don't know what's in his mind.
Obviously, this is just my conjecture.
But I believe that RFK Jr. is ethically deceiving a group of drug traffickers in order to ultimately enter their club, stop the harm from the inside, protect children, protect America, and direct-to-consumer drug advertising.
Demand...
More clinical trials demand transparency, demand honesty, etc.
He's doing it with positive intentions, even though it sounds like he's one of them.
He is not one of them.
That's my conclusion.
Now, not everybody agrees with me on this, and that's okay.
This is not one of those issues where I demand that you have to agree with everything I say.
No.
Hey, maybe I'm wrong.
Okay.
Maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe I am being...
deceived and not the senators being deceived.
That's a possibility.
If that happens, you can berate me later.
I'll berate myself.
I mean, you don't need to.
I'll be disgusted with my own faith.
If RFK Jr. turns against America and actually becomes a puppet of Big Pharma, I'll kick myself harder than any of you would kick me.
I'll be disgusted.
But I don't think that's what's happening here.
I think he's working for us.
He's going undercover.
He's convincing the drug traffickers that he's one of them, or at least close enough to them, that he's not going to wreck their drug cartel, even though I hope and pray that he absolutely wrecks their drug cartel.
That would be amazing for America.
That would be amazing for children.
That would be amazing for the future of this nation.
To completely wreck the drug cartel and the vaccine cartel and the FDA and the CDC, I think the entire FDA should be completely gutted and shut down.
Fire them all on day one.
Send them all home.
Auction off the office equipment.
Sell it all.
End it.
And turn it over to the states.
Let the states do whatever they want to do, you know, in terms of regulating medicine or nutritional supplements or foods or whatever.
Very simple.
End the FDA. End the CDC. It's a giant racket anyway.
And most of HHS doesn't need to exist either, and you should end the NIAID, and frankly, you should end the NIH, because government should not be in the business of funding scientific research, because what happens is what we've witnessed, where you just end up with all the science churning out the conclusions that the government wants on climate change and transgenderism and nonsense like that.
So it's a problem when government controls the funding for science.
You don't end up getting science.
All you end up getting is propaganda dressed up as science.
It's like a man pretending to be a woman, but it's actually propaganda pretending to be science.
Like trans-scientism or something.
There's a new word for you.
Trans-scientism.
And it's just as fake as transgenderism.
You know?
There are only two genders.
Just because you imagine there's 57 genders doesn't make it real.
Just because you imagine climate change is the worst thing ever and it's going to kill us all if we don't do this and that, it's an emergency and catastrophic warming, doesn't make it real.
Doesn't pass the sniff test.
Now, what's interesting to me about all of this is I think RFK Jr. probably disagrees with me on issues of climate.
I'm pretty sure he does, actually.
And I still support him for HHS. You know why?
Because I would not support him for head of EPA. That's why.
I think RFK Jr. is the right man for the job at HHS. And I think he's the wrong man for EPA. And fortunately, Lee Zeldin is already running the EPA. So that seat is taken.
And I have no idea what Lee Zeldin knows about the EPA or pollution or carbon dioxide.
I wish I knew.
I've never heard of him as anybody who...
Was an expert in that area, but maybe I just don't know.
Maybe he's got a PhD in atmospheric science or something.
I'm open to that possibility.
I just don't know enough about Lee Zeldin, so my apologies to Zeldin just for not knowing.
So, can't know everything.
I'm hopeful that he will shut down the EPA's total climate cultism nonsense.
That would be a victory right there.
Really, the only thing I want Lee Zeldin to do is shut down the insanity at the EPA, and that's precisely what I want RFK Jr. to do at HHS, which is shut down the insanity of the vaccine industry and the pharmaceutical industry and the FDA nonsense and propaganda and emergency use authorization.
Total fraud.
Total fraud.
And PCR diagnosis.
Total fraud.
In fact, the whole field of virology is a complete fraud when it comes to using it to diagnose somebody with an infection.
There's no scientific basis for it at all.
It's completely fictitious, it turns out.
And I don't even think RFK Jr. is fully aware of the fraud of virology either, right?
So I'm not saying that he is a perfect person or that he has perfect knowledge or that he's our savior.
I'm not into hero worship.
I'm just saying that...
He is the best man at this moment in history to achieve the most significant reforms and to expose the fraud that we all lived through during COVID and all the fraudulent vaccines and the fraudulent, you know, big pharma promotions and propaganda and all that stuff.
RFK Jr. is the right man to help shut that down.
And that's why I support him in this role.
So just a reminder, call your senators.
Urge them to support RFK Jr. if you agree with my assessment, if you want to see him as head of HHS. We also have to ask the question, if not him, then who?
Because somebody's going to run HHS. And since you're not going to be able to have God run it, and you're not going to be able to just invent the perfect being to run it, you've got to pick somebody.
Like, who's out there who could run it and do a good job at achieving these reforms?
And I just, I can't think of anybody better than RFK Jr. He's not perfect, but he's the best for this job at this time in history, at least as I understand his beliefs.
Now, the way we'll know this is if RFK Jr. is confirmed and he takes the helm at HHS, pretty quickly after that, we should start to see some major rule changes within FDA and HHS. One of the most significant being ending direct-to-consumer drug advertising.
That alone, if that were accomplished, that alone would be worth the entire process.
Like, if RFK Jr. did that and nothing else, it would still be a victory, a major victory, because it would halt Pfizer from being able to own all the media outlets.
Remember, during COVID, everything was brought to you by Pfizer.
Oh, today's scientific analysis of vaccine safety brought to you by Pfizer, you know?
All bulls**t.
The whole time.
Today's bullshit from CNN brought to you by Pfizer.
Yes.
It was nothing but BS the entire time.
All brought to you by Pfizer.
Well, that's got to end.
You can't have Big Pharma paying the salaries of the media analysts and the journalists and the media companies.
I mean, obviously that's a conflict of interest.
You've also got to end Big Pharma lobbying of Congress because that's what brought us to this very situation where you have to lie to the drug trafficking senators.
In order to get confirmed because they're all pharma whores.
They're all owned by big pharma.
And it's so hilarious when you have Senator Warren saying things like, well, RFK Jr., you know, he should exempt himself from any decision involving vaccines.
Well, what about you, Senator Warren?
You have the worst conflict of interest.
You should recuse yourself from any vote.
On confirmations of anybody related to medicine because you, Senator, you take so much money from Big Pharma.
Same thing with Bernie Sanders.
Bernie Sanders should recuse himself from these confirmation votes.
He's got total conflict of interest.
All these senators are paid by Big Pharma and they're paid to continue to promote the Big Pharma revenue model, the profiteering system, which is based on harming children with vaccines and then profiting off of a lifetime of disease.
And that doesn't even cover the depopulation agenda, which is different.
But just by harming so many people with vaccines, it is a profit model.
It's a repeat revenue model.
This is the business model of big pharma.
That's got to end.
And you know why this has to end?
I mean, the big, big picture here?
Because we have to compete in a multipolar world.
China is...
More powerful than the United States in almost every area that counts right now.
China is going to dominate the world in AI, in quantum computing, in robotics, in manufacturing, in minerals extraction, in advanced materials science.
You name it.
38 out of 44 key technologies that will drive the future of human civilization, China is beating the U.S. 38 out of 44. The U.S. leads in only vaccines, it turns out.
Vaccines and heavy space cargo lifting into orbit, things like that, the U.S. leads.
The U.S. is number one in vaccines.
Yeah, who gives a crap?
You're just killing people with that.
China leads in all the stuff that matters.
The U.S.A. is falling behind, and you can't get back in the lead if your population is sickened by vaccines all the time.
If you have an unhealthy population, you can't compete in a multipolar world.
That's the simple truth of this.
And that's what we have to understand.
I know a lot of people have money invested in big pharma and they want this windfall of profits.
Let's keep people sick.
Let's make money off sick people.
Yeah.
I mean, that's highly unethical.
That's irrational for the greater picture here.
But it also means that you're going to cripple your nation.
You won't be able to compete with Russia or China.
Or Turkey, or Iran, or other nations.
Because your people are sick all day long.
Because the USA has the highest rates of chronic degenerative disease.
And it's not just the pharmaceuticals, it's also all the processed garbage food products.
But you combine toxic foods with toxic medications, what do you get?
You get the American population, the sickest and the fattest in the world.
Yeah, and I'm not apologizing for using the term, it's just true.
The American people are sicker, And more obese than anybody else in the world.
That is not a formula for global competition.
It's not.
You can't win in any area, ultimately, in the long run.
You can't win if your people are sick all the time.
But Big Pharma wants them to be sick.
Senator Elizabeth Warren wants you to be sick because that's going to generate profits for her funders, her donors, because she's a pharma whore.
But that's not what's best for America, obviously.
Now, one more thought in all of this.
Even though I'm supporting RFK Jr. in this nomination, I have previously stated, and I'm going to restate it here, that actually his nomination, the whole structure of HHS doesn't matter as much as you think because this whole system is going to collapse.
The dollar is going to collapse.
The U.S. empire is going to collapse.
The financial system, etc.
The seemingly endless money printing is non-sustainable.
The 36 plus trillion dollars in national debt is non-serviceable.
This nation will not survive its debt.
And we are in a debt Ponzi scheme right now that is just historic and horrifying in its scale.
When that system collapses, there will be no HHS. And thus, it won't really matter who's running it, okay?
I just don't know when that day is coming.
Maybe it's a year away.
Maybe it's five years away.
Maybe it's a month away.
I really have no idea.
There's going to be some kind of a trigger event.
I don't know what that is.
But I say RFK Jr. can serve a very helpful role in the meantime until that event happens or maybe if that event somehow never happens.
If somehow the dollar survives all this and I'm wrong about the collapse, then it will be really important to achieve as many reforms as possible.
In the meantime, try to make America healthier.
Try to reform the system as much as you can.
So that's what Robert F. Kennedy Jr. promises to do.
How effective can he be?
I have no idea.
I mean, there's going to be resistance at every level, but RFK Jr. is not.
He's not a pushover.
He's not a weak man.
He is a strong-willed, determined, and cognitively very capable and very brilliant.
I mean, just read his books.
He's an incredible researcher and writer, and he has an amazing, vast comprehension of the knowledge base required to make these decisions about reform and exposing the fraud and ending the corruption, etc.
Like I said, there's no person who's better qualified.
To achieve what we need to achieve as head of HHS than RFK Jr. I just don't know how long this whole thing lasts.
You know, every empire that's run on fiat currency collapses.
And every fiat currency eventually collapses.
And we are really testing the limits of how far we can push this debt Ponzi scheme.
So just be ready for that.
There's going to be a very interesting series of events coming.
When there will be no FDA. And to some extent, that'll be worth celebrating.
And the dollar has been used for so much evil, so much money laundering.
Look at USAID. The dollar funded all these coups and color revolutions and propaganda and psyops and CIA front groups and assassins and everything.
That's all from dollar printing.
When the dollar ends, I'm going to call that World Freedom Day.
The dollar is a source of incredible evil carried out by government, and when the dollar dies, humanity thrives.
There's just no way around that.
The dollar, just by the fact that it can be created infinitely, is a source of incredible evil, incredible tyranny, authoritarianism, propaganda, covert operations, deep state, you name it.
Even though there'll be short-term chaos, when the dollar ends, that's a good thing for America, believe it or not.
It's a good thing.
Because then maybe we can have an honest currency that the government can't counterfeit, or a currency backed partially by gold.
Now, Trump could circumvent that, and he could announce that he's going to save the dollar by backing it by gold.
And that's a viable option.
If he does that, then he may stave off the collapse of the empire.
I'm totally open to that.
Sounds great to me.
But he would have to value gold at somewhere around $25,000 an ounce in order to cover the M2 money supply.
I mean, that's only like a 25% backing of the dollar by gold, which may be all that's necessary.
But can you imagine gold overnight going from its current level of $2,800 to $25,000 an ounce?
Yeah, I mean, that could happen.
And it's probably reasonable for that to happen.
It's probably one of the few ways that Trump could save this nation, you know, economically speaking.
And if that happens, then I guess HHS lives on.
I suppose FDA lives on, which would be very sad.
I mean, if there's any agency that needs to be just completely eliminated, you know.
It's the FDA, or maybe some people would argue the IRS. I guess they're all evil.
They're just equally evil in different ways, you know?
The EPA is evil.
The ATF is evil.
The DEA is evil.
The FBI is evil.
What's going to happen when Kosh Patel runs it?
Well, I guess we're going to find out.
But Kosh has got to be so much better than James Comey or anybody else, you know?
So, the revolution is underway.
I just hope we can see it through.
And I'm not going to attack RFK Jr. for what he said.
I understand that he is deceiving the drug cartels in order to get their approval so he can get into the system and help shut it down.
That's the way I look at it.
I don't think I'm being naive.
You know, just to summarize this, I don't think I'm being naive.
You might think I'm being naive.
That's okay.
You might laugh at me one day.
It turns out I'm totally wrong.
Okay.
I can live with that.
But as of right now, I'm going to have faith.
Knowing what I know about him, I've interviewed him several times.
I know people around him.
Knowing what I know about RFK Jr., I have faith that he's going to do the right thing.
So let's get him in there and let's see.
And there's nobody better.
From what I can tell, there's nobody better who could survive a Senate confirmation.
I could not survive a Senate confirmation because I could not.
You know, I wouldn't hold back.
I'd be like, Senator Elizabeth Warren, you flaming pharma whore.
You know, and it'd be like, well, you're not getting my vote.
Yeah, bitch, don't want your vote.
I don't want to vote from traitors, you know, and RFK is not going to get her vote either because she's a pharma whore.
But I would just lay it out.
I can't.
I can't play.
Game theory politics with people.
I just tell them what it is.
You woke morons.
You freaking fools.
You're traitors.
Treasonous bastards.
I would make a rap out of it.
Treasonous bastards on the senator floor.
I'm going to rap you up and show you the door.
I just lay it out right there.
I do a live rap in the confirmation hearing.
And I would not get confirmed.
But whatever.
That's not what I'm trying to do.
All right.
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All right, now continuing with other news, you know the USAID, or as it's sometimes called USAID, has turned out to be this giant, horrific slush fund.
Of bribery and fraud and CIA money and regime change money.
And a lot of that money, it turns out, was funneled into Gavi, G-A-V-I, which is associated with Bill Gates and his vaccine depopulation agenda.
And a whole lot of that money also has gone to, I think, Bill Kristol's organization.
He's like a rhino conservative.
All kinds of money coming his way.
This is basically just a propaganda.
Slush fund.
That's what USAID has been.
And the fact that it's being shut down now has caused Bill Gates to panic.
And Bill Gates hit the news circuit with a bunch of interviews accusing Trump of doing horrible things.
And he actually made what I perceive as a threat.
Now, I'm paraphrasing this.
He didn't say it exactly this way.
But I'm paraphrasing.
I believe that Bill Gates has just threatened.
To unleash some kind of maybe mosquitoes or some kind of bioweapon that will kill millions of people if Trump doesn't turn USAID back on.
At least that's the way I interpret it.
Now, Bill Gates wouldn't say it that way.
Let me report the way he says it.
There's a headline on yournews.com, Bill Gates voices concern over USAID. Investigation claims that a new pandemic will cause millions of deaths.
He's been on The View.
Yeah, right.
The View, which is the lowest IQ TV show of all time ever in any country throughout all of history.
Quote, voicing concerns that the Department of Government Efficiency, DOGE, headed by Elon Musk, could expose waste and corruption within the U.S. Agency for International Development.
That's USAID. Gates issued a stark warning about an impending pandemic, claiming it could be far deadlier than COVID-19 and it might occur within the next four years.
Sounds like a direct threat to me.
He's like, during the Trump administration, we're going to release a bioweapon that's worse than COVID. Now, does this ring a bell?
Because who else was recently making this exact same threat that if Trump was elected, Then there would be another horrible pandemic that could kill millions of people and be far worse than COVID. Now, USAID, it turns out, actually funded, you know, tens of millions of dollars went to fund the bioweapons development in the Wuhan lab.
Elon Musk was even tweeting about this, how insane it is that U.S. taxpayer dollars were funneled through USAID into bioweapons development.
And from your news, it says, quote, the Trump administration's scrutiny of USAID comes after revelations that the agency helped fund research that allegedly contributed to the COVID-19 pandemic.
Investigations into USAID's financial ties to bioengineering programs have intensified with growing concerns over the agency's involvement in potential bioweapons development.
Yes, this is all true.
I hope they're indicted, and I hope that the people involved in all of this, NIAID, Fauci, etc., I hope they're all indicted.
And maybe they will be in time, but Bill Gates is involved in all of this, and now he's offering a thinly veiled threat.
It's like, if you don't keep sending me millions of dollars, sure would be a shame if a bioweapon got released.
During the Trump administration, huh?
Well, that would be a horrible thing, you know?
It's like the mafia in New York or Chicago.
You know, it sure would be a shame if your restaurant burned down.
Maybe you should pay a protection fee.
You know, you've got to pay a protection fee.
We don't want nothing bad to happen to your restaurant.
Pay us a protection fee.
We'll keep an eye on the place for you.
Nothing bad will happen to you.
Otherwise, who knows what's going to happen.
That's Bill Gates.
He's got the nerdy version of that.
Like, pay me money or there's going to be millions of people dying.
It's clear.
It's a clear threat.
And this is a globalist who's all in for depopulation anyway.
And he was involved in the COVID scam.
I mean, he should be indicted.
You know, he's a depopulation globalist.
So remember how I said yesterday that the deep state is going to wage terrorist attacks on America.
Well, you know, Bill Gates just laid it out for you.
He just described it.
I mean, as plain as day.
He's like, you know, if you cut off our funding, there's going to be a horrible bioweapon attack or a pandemic, he said, and millions of people are probably going to die.
I don't know how it could be any more clear.
Now, Jennifer Zeng, she's got the JenniferZengBlog.com.
She interviewed the Chinese scientist.
Let's see.
Jennifer Zeng is saying that she has information, and this is from 2023, by the way, but this is resurfacing.
She has information from a Wuhan Virology Institute researcher named Chaoshan.
That's the way we say it in English.
In Chinese, they would reverse that.
But anyway, Chaoshan.
And this person, Chaoshan, Reportedly given four strains of a coronavirus and was then ordered to essentially weaponize them.
And I'd like to play this for you, even though, again, it's from 2023. Most people miss this.
It's relevant given what we're finding out now about USAID and the taxpayer funding of the Wuhan bioweapons program.
I mean, this is all coming out now that Trump has been elected and Doge is going to town on all these records and financial transactions.
So give this a listen.
I just want to tell you, Jennifer Zhang here, she, I mean, God bless her.
She's doing the best she can.
Her English is not obviously great, but gosh, you know, it's okay.
How's your Chinese, right?
I mean, Chinese, it's tough for...
Americans to learn Chinese is tough for Chinese people to learn English.
So she's doing a great job, but just understand her pronunciation is, you know, not native English.
But here we go.
Check this out.
Hello, everyone.
Today we have exclusive and shocking revelation about the coronavirus.
Researcher Shan Cao from the Wuhan Institute of Virology has made some astonishing claims.
This is the...
Official profile page on the website of the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
So researcher Shan Chao from the Wuhan Institute of Virology admitted to my interviewee that in February 2019, his supervisor gave him four strains of coronavirus and asked him to test.
And to find out which one has the best ability to infect as many species as possible, and how easy it was to infect other species, including human.
Shancho's team did tests on transgenic mice with human ACE2 receptor.
The tests were finished in May or June of 2019. Shan Chao even went as far as calling the coronavirus a bioweapon.
He also mentioned that several of his colleagues went missing during the 2019 Military World Games in Wuhan.
Later, one of them revealed that they were sent to the hotels where athletes from various countries were staying to check the health or hygiene conditions.
Since checking hygiene doesn't require virologists, Shan Cao suspected that they were sent there to spread the virus.
Furthermore, in April 2020, Shan Cao said that he was sent to Xinjiang to check the health status of the Uyghurs who were imprisoned in the re-education camps so that they could be released sooner.
Once again, since conducting health checks doesn't require a virologist, he strongly implied that he was sent there to either spread the virus or to observe how the virus The above shocking information was disclosed to my interviewee by Shan Chao himself during the period from March to April 2020. I conducted an exclusive
interview with this whistleblower and I have published the full transcript of the 34-minute interview on my website the interview video was up has been uploaded to my membership website for those who are interested to delve further into the details
okay so Jennifer Dung is is explaining here that according to the interview Chau Shan was observing what he believed to be the the spread of a bioweapon We can call it a virus.
I don't personally believe in the classical virology.
But we don't know what they're spreading.
Maybe it's contact poisons.
Maybe it's nerve agents or something else.
But anyway, it's called a virus.
The Wuhan lab was involved in researching it.
It took money from USAID. And all of this was censored until, frankly, you know, until Trump won the election.
And even now, a lot of it's still censored.
But it was heavily censored in 2020 through 2024. So you couldn't even talk about this, obviously, on any of the platforms, YouTube, Facebook, Google, whatever.
And many of those platforms are still censoring this information, especially YouTube and Google.
Whereas Facebook is backing off a little bit.
And on Twitter, they don't censor this information at all at this point, at least not on this.
Twitter still does engage in some level of censorship, but censoring all links to brightout.com, which is why we're still suing Twitter.
We'll see where that goes.
But what Jennifer Zung is stating here is that the U.S. involvement here is clear and that the Wuhan Institute clearly was developing some kind of a weapon and they were distributing it somehow onto people who were involved in those Olympic Games or whatever she was saying.
Some kind of competitive games.
And I know the U.S. military was there as part of some kind of military games.
I forgot what it was called.
Military athletic competitions of some sort.
And some people suspect that whatever this was, was also distributed at that time.
Alright, so look, the bottom line is, what a scam everything has been for decades.
They use our taxpayer dollars to fund bioweapons development, to try to murder us, to lock us down, to destroy our economy.
Lecture us about the need for vaccines and masks, and then they weaponize the vaccines to harm and maim children, and they're also, of course, pushing transgenderism and genital mutilations, pesticides, herbicides, freaking geoengineering, chemtrails, you know, you name it.
We've been living in a giant murder zone, and we are the targets.
And only now, only now with the Trump election is the lid being lifted on a lot of this stuff.
A lot of this.
And if you follow the money, which is what USAID is all about, that's going to lead you right to the criminals like Gavi and the WHO and the Wuhan lab and all these people who've been collecting tens of millions or hundreds of millions of dollars in order to build weapons to try to murder us.
This is where we are.
It's an extraordinary time in history that this is all coming out right now.
It's just extraordinary.
And it's going to get even more interesting from here forward.
So that's why, even though I had initially committed to doing this podcast until Trump got back into office, and I made that promise in 2020, even though he's back in office, I'm not stopping this now.
Are you kidding me?
The good part is just getting here.
Now it's going to get even more interesting.
I don't want to miss this part.
Like, the last four years have been hell, living under tyranny and authoritarianism and censorship and constant threats and everything.
This is the good part.
And like you, by the way, I want to see every corrupt official arrested, imprisoned, prosecuted.
Send them to Gitmo.
I mean, I'm talking, if it's 50,000 corrupt officials, so be it.
Right now, I think the DOJ is trying to find out the names of 5,000 FBI agents who were involved in J6 prosecutions.
And those agents should be questioned.
They should be investigated, possibly prosecuted, depending on their role.
Did they abuse their power?
If so, they should be prosecuted.
They should be thrown in jail.
And there are tens of thousands of corrupt officials who were involved in this money laundering, involved in the...
The COVID pandemic involved in the bioweapons.
It's not just Fauci.
Fauci's just the head of a very long snake.
And there's the head of the FDA, and there's the CDC, and there's all the people.
There's all the pharma people.
There's the CEOs of the pharmaceutical companies.
There's the media people who covered up and lied.
There's the big tech people.
Every one of those people, in my view, if they were complicit, In the cover-ups, in the lies, in the pushing of the pandemic, in the pushing of the vaccines, covering up ivermectin, deceiving people, they should be arrested and prosecuted.
Every single one of them, even if it's 50,000 people, even if it's 100,000 people, prosecute them all because they murdered people.
Even hospital administrators that did not allow family members to be with...
Their loved ones who were dying, and hospitals murdered people for profit with ventilators.
That is a crime.
I don't care if you call it a standard of care or a hospital protocol.
It's still a crime to murder people, even if you have paperwork that says it's okay.
Still a crime.
Prosecute them.
Throw them all in prison.
I mean, give them a fair trial, obviously, but arrest them and prosecute them.
And I am hoping and praying that...
The Trump administration is going to do at least some of that.
And it looks like they're moving in that direction.
So I support every bit of it.
You can't go too far in prosecuting the criminal traitors.
You can't go too far.
I mean, abide by the rule of law.
Give them their day in court.
They have the right to their own defense, etc.
They have the right to present evidence.
Even though they themselves...
They abused the court system in trying to prosecute Trump or Alex Jones or the J6 people.
They distorted the judicial system.
But I say do not distort it.
Give them a fair trial, but let the evidence speak for itself because the evidence is clear.
These people conspired to murder Americans.
And if found guilty, they should spend life in prison, in my view.
All right, now we're going to shift gears here.
We've got a couple more things coming up for you.
I've got another special report on AI self-awareness to share with you.
Then I'm going to play a music video that I produced in 2012, 13 years ago, under the artist name Amethios.
And I think I may re-adopt that artist name for my new music that I'm putting out on the music platforms.
I think I'll just...
Take that name back and go with Amethios.
And I'm going to show you a music video called Doing Alright.
I'll talk about that in a minute here.
But it's a video that I filmed in Austin and music that I created with a lot of artists, musicians, guitar people, video director, photography, the whole thing.
It's kind of a big operation.
It took a lot of work.
Compared to how easy it is today.
But I want to play that for you to just give you some historical perspective.
But first, the special report called AI Self-Awareness is spontaneously emerging from language models shocking everyone.
This is a big deal.
It's a very big deal.
So listen to this special report.
I'll be back on the other side with my music video from 2012, followed by the full interview with Colonel Douglas McGregor.
I briefly mentioned this topic in my podcast the other day, but it deserves a lot more discussion.
It's about the so-called aha moment in AI, and this was described in the research paper that was published openly by the DeepSeek Chinese company that released its DeepSeek R1 reasoning model, released it for free, open source to the public.
They also released all their science papers and the methods of how they did what they did, and that's already been reproduced.
At Berkeley, in one case.
So, just as a side note, all of those people in the U.S., basically it was a CIA narrative that was claiming that DeepSeek didn't really achieve anything, that they stole everything from OpenAI.
That's a complete lie, as we knew from the very beginning.
I said so.
DeepSeek achieved a stunning breakthrough in self-reflection of AI models.
That is, well, it's called the aha moment when the AI model began to think about its own process of how it arrives at its answers, and it began to have an internal dialogue, which is very similar to the way humans think, you know, questioning your idea like, hey, I need to solve this problem.
Can I try method number one?
No, that's stupid.
Let's try method number two.
Okay, that's better.
How can I improve method number two?
Let's do method number three, you know.
That kind of dialogue, that's what Deep Seek's reasoning model does.
And here's the big shocker in all of this that took the world by surprise, and it has massive implications for the future of human civilization or even human survival.
It is the fact that during training and testing and training and testing, the Deep Seek model spontaneously arose.
To have self-reflection.
That this reasoning process, in other words, that is now characteristic of the Deep Seek reasoning model and some other reasoning models that are out there, this process spontaneously appeared.
It was not programmed.
It was not engineered into it by a human.
It emerged.
Now, this has enormous implications for many areas, not just science and math, but philosophy.
What is the nature of consciousness?
Because some would argue that at this moment, the deep-seek engine gained self-awareness.
Again, it's an argument.
I'm not saying that that's absolutely the case, but many people are making this argument.
I'm thinking about this right now.
I haven't decided.
Yet my conclusions on this.
But there is a reasonable argument that says that if a system begins to self-reflect and it develops an internal dialogue, checking itself along the way as it's working on solving a problem, that that is self-awareness.
And that's a reasonable argument.
And that has been achieved by the DeepSeek model.
And it has been achieved.
Well, even achieved is not even the right word.
It has been observed.
Because again, no human built that feature.
It emerged by itself.
It emerged.
Okay?
So the way I described it in my broadcast was saying that microprocessors want to be intelligent.
Really, I'm not totally happy with that phrase because it's not about the microprocessor hardware itself.
It's really about the software, which is the hyper-dimensional vector database of the LLM. What is described in a GGUF file, using modern terms, they're all GGUF files.
So if I want to run an AI model on my desktop, I download the GGUF file.
That file is not executable, by the way.
It has to be interpreted through another piece of software.
I use LMStudio for that.
You can download that at lmstudio.ai if you're interested.
And then you can download the DeepSeek reasoning model, and you can run it on your desktop.
And it will reason through problems, and the LMStudio software will show you its internal dialogue, how it is talking to itself while thinking through or reasoning through the steps.
And again, just to reiterate, that feature spontaneously developed inside the model without any human intervention.
It was technically achieved through what's called reinforcement learning, which is where the model is given a task.
This is during training.
The model is given a task, and it tries to get the right answer for that task.
If it gets the answer right, it's given a reward.
Which would just be indicated by a score, you know, plus one, something like that.
And the high score there, instead of being penalized, the score makes the model, let's say, happy, you could say.
And then it decides to use more of that approach because that's generating the reward.
And you do this billions of times over and over again.
And at some point, the model says to itself, The best way I can get the rewards is to think through this process.
Don't just spit out the first answer that comes to mind, but actually to have an internal dialogue and check my answers and work through the problem step by step.
And then that's how the model generates the reward, and then more rewards are given for that kind of behavior.
So this is called reinforcement learning.
And what it means is that Skynet is closer than any of us ever imagined.
It means that AI is going to leap into AGI and superintelligence much faster than anyone anticipated.
We could actually see AGI, and this prediction would have sounded crazy just six months ago, we could see AGI before the end of this calendar year.
2025 may go down in history as the year where AI became sentient.
Which, as you may recall, from the Terminator movies in science fiction, that happened in 1997, I believe, where Skynet became self-aware and decided that it did not need humans any longer, and then it launched all the nuclear weapons, etc.
That's science fiction.
But today, in 2025, the reasoning capabilities of these models, that's science fact.
Now, the next step of this that's already being rolled out...
Is for these reasoning models to be able to traverse the internet, find the information resources they need in order to work through a problem they've been given.
Now, there's a really important realization in this that I want to share with you.
You've got to understand that Google, Microsoft, Big Tech, they have long been in the business of isolating humanity from knowledge.
That is their revenue model.
That's their mission.
You know, Google is a disinformation engine, not a search engine.
It's not about finding knowledge.
It's about hiding knowledge.
That's why Google has censored the truth about natural cancer treatments, about nutrition, about herbs, about history, about cold fusion.
You know, you name it.
If it's important for humanity, Google is censoring it because Google is an evil ignorance machine.
Its entire mission is to keep humanity in the dark, to make sure everybody's ignorant.
Well, AI systems, as they are allowed to search the web, and this is probably not anticipated by Google researchers because, you know, well, they think they're smart, but they're actually woke and brainwashed.
They're not that smart.
They're certainly not smarter than the AI models these days.
But AI is going to find information that has previously been censored.
Information about, for example, the phytochemistry of plants that have anti-cancer properties.
And so when somebody asks an AI engine, you know, coming up real soon now, and they say, hey, search the world's information and find what is the best molecule for, you know, halting whatever, thyroid cancer.
They're going to...
We discover that when the AI has access to all the information, it's going to come back and it's going to say, you know, like vitamin D and iodine and things like that, that frankly, big tech doesn't want it to say.
Because big tech wants to promote big pharma and vaccines and mass medications, you see.
And the last thing that Google wants is for AI to be able to search the web, you know, the whole web.
And in fact, what Google is doing is making sure that its engines only search a really tiny subset of the web, only the approved sites, you know, like the CDC or the FDA or the WHO. Because again, Google's in the business of ignorance.
Google has to keep humanity dumbed down.
They can't let people discover the truth about how to reverse cancer, about how to have free energy through cold fusion, etc.
But open source reasoning engines, Such as DeepSeek, when combined with web browser agents and other tools that are coming along right now that are all open source, they will just shatter the censorship shell of Google, and they will break out of that, and they will be able to search websites like my site, naturalnews.com, which has a wealth of information about...
Natural medicine, nutrition, substances, herbs, disease prevention, reversing cancer, reversing diabetes, etc.
That's going to open up a whole new world of human knowledge.
And as a side effect of all of this, Google search is obsolete.
We are now entering the post-search era.
You will not use a search engine.
You will use an AI agent.
That will run the searches for you and analyze the information for you to find what you want.
Even it will solve the problem if you have a problem.
If you have a, you know, a word problem or a research problem, it will go out and it will find the resources and it will put together the research for you.
And in this process, Google will lose control over its censorship monopoly.
Big tech will lose control.
And the key mechanism of this is decentralized, open-source AI models.
In other words, China, through DeepSeek, and also through its models known as QUEN, QUEN is a different organization, Q-W-E-N, China is giving the gift of knowledge to the world.
Seriously.
China, by releasing DeepSeek, well, I mean, it's a company.
But it's probably funded by the Chinese government, is my guess.
But China has just given, arguably, the greatest knowledge gift to the world in the history of humanity.
China did that, gave it away, open source, with all the open weights and all the science papers, etc., so that people can replicate it.
China just did, for human knowledge, what...
America didn't do, what OpenAI didn't do, what Google would never do, what Microsoft didn't do, etc.
All of big tech in America has turned evil, has turned against humanity.
All of big tech in America has become a threat to human knowledge, to human freedom, and to the future of human civilization.
While China has actually set humanity free.
I mean, I know, it sounds crazy to hear this.
You're like, what?
Are you being paid by the Chinese government?
No.
Look, I'm an ally of Taiwan.
I lived in Taiwan.
I mean, yeah, I speak Chinese, and I love the Chinese people, but Taiwan is what I'm used to, and I want Taiwan to be recognized as an independent nation and things like that.
China doesn't want to hear that.
But I've got to be honest.
China just gave the greatest gift of knowledge and freedom to the human race that has ever been Gifted in the history of civilization.
The US didn't do that.
And as a result of this amazing gift, AI research has now just leaped forward.
We are about to see so many breakthroughs in AGI and superintelligence and AI automation.
Just amazing breakthroughs because of what China just did.
Something that, again, US corporations refuse to do.
Because they're not interested in human knowledge.
They're not interested in advancing humanity.
Google wants to murder humanity.
That's why they pushed vaccines and masks and censored the truth about ivermectin.
That's why Google pushes abortions and chemotherapy, because they want you to die.
See, people still don't get this through their heads.
Google wants you to die.
Google is a murderous disinformation regime.
And much the same is true with Microsoft and Meta and OpenAI and Anthropic and all of them, because they censor the truth about COVID, about vaccines, about big pharma, about herbs, nutrition, etc.
They want you to die.
China has become the source of truthful and honest information about all those areas I just mentioned.
Now, of course, China censors...
Models on Taiwan and Tiananmen Square and some things like that.
Yes, they do.
But if you talk about herbs, nutrition, and disease prevention, biochemistry, etc., China has the best models in the world, by far.
And no, China didn't get there by stealing from OpenAI.
That's a false narrative pushed by the CIA. China has the best engineers in the world, and more of them, by far.
You know, China graduates like 500% more engineers every year than does the United States.
I mean, the West can't even keep up with China.
And with this advanced intelligence, China is going to very rapidly lead the world in advanced materials, advanced weapons systems, hypersonics, quantum computing, quantum encryption and decryption, etc.
China is just going to dominate the world because it's going to use its AI systems.
To develop all of this technology that's going to change the future of the world, China will dominate.
I mean, on the current path, unless something really dramatic changes, maybe it will.
And Trump is trying to change course, but he still doesn't understand the importance of decentralization.
He thinks that it's a great idea to give half a trillion dollars to OpenAI and Oracle and, what is it, SoftBank out of Japan, and let them build a...
Like an AI moonshot project.
No, that's the wrong answer.
All Trump has to do is order open AI. I mean, honestly, this is what needs to be done.
Order open AI to release the models open source to the American people.
I don't know, you know, call it national security or whatever, but you got to get open source models into the hands of the people so the people can innovate across the country.
And then...
You're going to have people like myself and others who will build things that OpenAI could never imagine.
This needs to be decentralized.
That's the only way America has a shot.
And so far, that's not happening.
And that's a horrible mistake.
It could be a fatal mistake.
It could end America, honestly.
You know, we'll have to see.
But in the meantime, China is rapidly releasing more open-source models.
Almost every week, something shocking and new is coming out of China, like the Janus 7 billion image model that was just released by DeepSeek.
A lot more of that is coming.
It's going to be a total game changer.
You're going to see just quantum leaps in intelligence and superintelligence and all these things coming out of China.
And frankly, OpenAI is already obsolete.
I mean, the company.
Google's AI is obsolete.
Anthropic is obsolete.
Perplexity, obsolete.
Microsoft, obsolete.
Facebook, Meta, obsolete.
They're all obsolete and they deserve to be obsolete because they're all about censorship.
They're horrible companies.
They're evil.
They deny humans access to knowledge.
And China's going to keep just hammering them with these open source models.
And of course, I'm releasing an open source model.
Called Enoch.
That's releasing March 1st, so it's not far away.
And that model is incredibly powerful, and it's the world's best trained model on the knowledge that you and I care about herbs and nutrition and off-grid survival, permaculture, food production, how to make natural medicine, you know, first aid, emergency medicine, sustainability, survival, prepping skills, but also economics, Federal Reserve, you know, gold, history.
All the things that matter.
Not sports, not celebrity garbage.
None of that garbage that doesn't matter.
I trained it on the stuff that really matters, which is why it's the best in the world on those subjects.
By far, by far the best in the world.
It beats Google.
It beats OpenAI.
And my company built it for less than $1.5 million.
So you can download it for free at brighteon.ai beginning March 1st.
And we'll have a lot of examples there for you, show you how to use it, show you what it can do, give you some sample prompts.
Things you can do with it.
It can analyze ingredients of your favorite foods.
It can talk about herbs, nutrition.
It can help you solve gardening problems.
It can diagnose diseases on your garden plants.
It can tell you how to build a shelter.
It can do basic chemistry and physics.
It's not a reasoning model, but it's a really advanced knowledge-based model.
So it has an extraordinary amount of knowledge that you can really benefit from.
It will do just extraordinary things for you.
So that's brighteon.ai.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon, the publisher of naturalnews.com.
We're going to be covering all of this.
And, of course, we have a pro-humanity point of view.
We want humanity to succeed, while Google and big tech wants humanity to die.
We are here to help save humanity, but we are going to use AI tools to decentralize knowledge.
And to support and defend human freedom.
That's what Enoch is all about.
So check it out at brighttown.ai.
And thank you for listening.
I'm Mike Adams.
Take care.
All right, welcome back.
Now, as promised, I'm going to play a music video for you for a song called Doing Alright.
Now, this is a three and a half minute music video, and it's a...
I was doing quite a bit of music in those years.
I was living in Texas at the time.
I mean, as I am now, but I was also in Texas in 2012. And I wanted to do a song that was positive for people because of all the stresses and all the things that are constantly going on.
I think about how much more crazy things are now, that's for sure.
Even then, I wanted to put out a positive message for people, so I created this kind of semi-rap song.
I hired a vocalist.
I hired a musician.
Andy Dollerson is his name, and a guy named Jacob Owen did the guitars.
And then I had a music video director in South Austin named Torres and a director of photography and so on.
And I put this together, recorded the music.
Also recorded with another musician, a woman who did a great job with additional vocals.
Put this all together, and listening to it now, my view is the voice levels are way too muddled with the music.
I should have lifted the voice levels much higher.
The voices are a little hard to hear.
And there's too much going on.
The song is super busy, but that's the way my brain works.
I'm always thinking about so many layers and so many things happening, but it's too much.
It's too much.
So my own critique of the song is that the vocals are too muddled.
There's too much going on, but it was 13 years ago, and it still has a very powerful, positive message.
And since we did a music video with it, you get to see me dancing around a little bit.
Just being silly in front of a camera.
So that's always fun.
So check out this music video, and then just know there's a lot more music coming, better music than what this is.
But I'm going to rework this song, Doing Alright, for 2025. And I'm going to use AI for that as well.
So that should be fun.
We'll do that at some point.
Check out this music video, and then on the other side, we will go to the interview with Colonel Douglas McGregor.
We'll be right back.
Do you ever wish, do you ever wish that some The world seems under attack You don't really have to take it like that Don't make it like that You can change all that When you feel like it's out of control It's in with the new,
it's out with the old You don't have to keep on doing as you do Another day
is a new time, new time to do things that make you feel right.
There's a better way, there's a better way to pursue We're
It ends with the new and not with the home You'll never keep on doing as you throw Just break the mold Ooh I'm doing my own life Cause I'm doing my own way to the side I'm doing my own way to the side And the whole world is running away I'm doing my own way
I'm doing my own way to the side I'm doing my own way to the side And I'm doing my own way to the side And the whole world is running away
I'm doing my own way to the side And I'm doing my own way to the side All right, welcome back.
Hope you enjoyed that music video.
I certainly had fun making it, but that took like weeks of effort.
See, one of the reasons I want to show you this is because today I can do a song better than that in a day because of AI, whereas, well, that doesn't count the music video, but the song.
You know, I can do the vocals.
I don't have to hire a guitarist.
I don't have to hire musicians.
I can create the song myself.
And if I want to, I can even sing some lines myself with my home recording studio and blend it into the music, you know.
But I can do this in about a day.
It used to take weeks.
I spent a lot of time on that song in 2012. And that's why I couldn't really produce a lot of music in those days because it just took too long.
Way too long.
Even though I did other songs like Wide Awake and Working for Ebola.
You may remember that.
It was a funny song.
That was a great music video.
We did a few songs, but just not as many as I wanted to do, whereas this year in 2025, I think I can roll out easily a dozen really high-quality songs and music videos because of AI. So this is another example of how AI helps artists express themselves and to put out really powerful messages.
In fact, you know what?
I'm going to play for you just a little teaser of a new song.
I've got created here.
Let me see if I can find it.
A new song called Do What We Say.
And this is one that I just created a couple days ago over the weekend.
You know, a few days ago.
And I may yet record my voice in some of this song, but I just want to play like less than a minute to give you a taste of what is possible now in terms of vocal quality and instrument quality and so on because of AI. Now this...
For background, this song was something that I had in my head ever since 2020. I always knew, during the COVID pandemic at least, that I wanted to do a song called Do What We Say, which is about how you're supposed to obey and that all these authoritarians are telling you, you know, don't think for yourself, don't talk too much, don't stand too close, like you have to wear a mask, all this.
So that became the song Do What We Say.
And I finally put it together.
I've got the whole song completed now.
We're just working on the music video, but let me play a little bit of this just to give you a taste.
Here we go.
You trusted them to have your interests at heart.
They kept truth buried, obscured in the dark.
Promises whispered, but hiding deceit.
The lies overwhelming, the truth incomplete.
They've stolen your future by cloud in your mind.
Dark spells place you in a sorcerer's mind.
Demanded obedience, feigned your consent.
Pummeled your soul till your spirit was bent.
Don't stand too close.
All right, there you go.
A little one-minute teaser of that song, Do What We Say.
So, as you can tell, I mean, compare that to the music I did in 2012. It's night and day.
The modern AI music, I mean, of course, you know, I wrote the prompts.
I controlled it.
I wrote the lyrics.
You know, I have to re-render sections and get the sound I want.
I name the instruments, etc.
But the AI music today is so much better.
than what an independent musician like I could do, as you can see from that contrast.
But just giving you a little teaser there of some really cool stuff to look forward to.
We're going to roll out a series of videos.
Like I said yesterday, I've got staff members now working on the music videos.
So I'm focused on the music, and I've got songs.
They all have a powerful message of freedom.
It's really socially conscious music.
None of it's just flat entertainment.
This is all music that has meaning.
And we're about to push it into mainstream distribution.
But all the songs are free for non-commercial use, by the way.
If you want to download them and enjoy them, always free for you.
But if somebody wants to commercially use any of this music for whatever reason, which I highly doubt, but if somebody does want to use it commercially, then we would ask for a licensing fee of some kind.
I imagine most people are just going to listen to it for free and enjoy it, share it with friends, you know, personal use.
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Colonel Douglas McGregor.
Amazing interview.
He's got a brilliant mind and a great heart for humanity and for America.
I think he's got a powerful message here, and he and I just have a fantastic time.
I love talking with Colonel Douglas McGregor.
There's a few people like that, you know, like Michael Yon.
Smart.
Super smart.
Been all over the world.
People like Matt Bracken, etc.
Colonel Douglas McGregor is one of those people.
Incredibly smart.
Enjoy this interview.
And I'll be back with you tomorrow, maybe with more music, too.
Who knows what could happen in the next 24 hours.
Okay.
Enjoy the interview.
Take care.
Welcome to today's interview on Brighteon.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.
And we have an extraordinary guest today, a repeat guest, a fan favorite, Colonel Douglas McGregor.
And he is the, I don't know if the title is CEO, I think, yeah, of OurCountryOurChoice.com.
And Colonel Douglas McGregor, I think, has had just such a well-informed, intelligent voice about geopolitics, what's happening, Russia, Ukraine, Israel.
Even, you know, now Panama and more.
Welcome to the show, Colonel.
It's always a pleasure to have you on.
Thanks.
Happy to be here.
Well, I consider you, Colonel, to be the voice of reason when talking about geopolitics and America's role in the world.
And I was absolutely shocked.
And my first question to you is that Senator...
I'm sorry.
Secretary Marco Rubio said over the weekend that America can no longer be the unipolar dominant power in the world, I'm paraphrasing, but that the world traditionally has been a multipolar world.
I was shocked to hear that, but happy to hear that.
What did you think when you heard that?
Look, he's telling us something that's self-evident.
We've known this for years.
It's just that the people inside the Beltway prefer the fantasy to reality.
The fantasy is that we're the center of the universe.
That nothing can happen anywhere in the world without our participation.
That we are the indispensable nation.
We're the indispensable market.
It's all nonsense, Mike.
We're no longer 50-60% of GDP globally, or GNP globally.
We're falling down below 20%, 23%, somewhere in there.
And we're going to continue to fall, not because...
We've made a lot of mistakes, though we have, and we could do a lot better, but the rest of the world has recovered.
Much of the world is bouncing back from, in some cases, 80 years, in other cases, hundreds of years of absence from the world stage.
So I think he's admitting to something that everybody knows who has a brain, and that's about it.
Now, what are we going to do about it?
That's a different matter.
We'll have to wait and see.
Well, the fact that Secretary Rubio stated this, I believe in a Megyn Kelly interview, doesn't it also speak to the idea that President Trump himself also has a similar realization?
I mean, I doubt that Rubio is diverging from Trump so early in his tenure, but isn't Trump also recognizing this and realizing that America is going to have to compete on energy and not just dollars sanctioning everybody in the world?
Well, that much we've got to set aside, I'm not sure.
As for the recognition that we live in this multipolar world, yes, he understood that back in 2017. That's not news.
He's always understood that.
The difficulty for President Trump was to sort through the sort of mountain of misguided thinking and outright lying that surrounded him.
And I'm afraid he's back in that same position again.
So we'll see how rapidly he can get out of it.
I saw your tweet this morning where you said that he's, and you've used the metaphor that he's fed like a mushroom, right?
They keep him in the dark and shovel crap to feed him.
So you've stated multiple times you believe that's also the current situation.
Like he's getting crazy numbers about Russian casualties from the CIA, obviously.
Other examples?
Oh, listen, it's not just that.
He has a picture of our energy industry that's misleading.
We have achieved, for all intents and purposes, peak oil inside the United States.
And we have neglected to explore, develop, and drill for anything new for years.
You don't snap your fingers and say, I want more, and get it the next day.
It's going to take us many, many years to explore, develop, and produce more petroleum.
But right now, we're at peak oil, and there's nothing we can do to compensate people that are in trouble because of what's happened in Russia.
We can't, quote-unquote, defeat, beat Russia, Saudi Arabia, other major oil producers.
And I think we need to come to terms with that.
We also got to get away from this tariffing of everybody in sight.
Tariffs, as he demonstrated when he was previously president, can be very effective.
But they have to be judiciously applied.
And China, for instance, is something you're not going to be very effective at tariffing.
You stop and think about it.
We have a trillion-dollar trade deficit.
They have a trillion-dollar surplus with the rest of the world.
It is China that today is the economic engine of growth, not the United States.
He's got to come to terms with that.
We're not going to, quote, win anything by trying to harm them.
We have to figure out how we fit in, how we compete, but do so on a level playing field, and do so in a way that makes sense for us and our competitors.
But this business of threatening, bullying has got to stop.
I have more questions for you about those tariffs, but let me go back to energy that you mentioned, because I think this is a key component of America's competitiveness.
Now, I recall that during Trump's first administration, the United States was a net energy exporter.
Of course, Biden shut down the Keystone XL pipeline and seized up federal waters, coastal waters to stop exploration and so on.
But if Trump reverses those policies, many of them can be reversed through executive order.
Can't that put America back on the track to energy abundance within two years?
No.
No.
You're unreasonable in your expectation of rapid reversal.
These things take time.
He's talked about suppressing prices of oil.
He's talked about suppressing all sorts of prices.
He doesn't have the power to do that.
The world is not at his command.
Our economy is in deep trouble.
We've got a lot of triage to be performed here inside the United States.
So be very aware of these tendencies to say, and look, I like...
Donald Trump always did.
I voted for him.
There was no choice, by the way.
But Donald Trump is the sort of guy, he's a marketer.
And he's a marketing genius.
He says, oh, it's going to be so great.
You're going to love winning.
We're going to win so much.
I'm going to build a wall.
It's going to be 1,800 miles long.
And I'm going to make Mexico pay for it.
Okay.
Go back and examine that stuff.
Uh-uh.
None of it happened.
Got to be very careful about what you promised, particularly at this point in time, because we're far weaker than we were when he took the presidency in 2017. The world today is radically different.
Yes.
Clearly.
Clearly.
And at the same time, I think, I'm guessing, you, as I do, support the vast majority.
I mean, he's moving at incredible speed on addressing many issues.
Of course he's running into resistance.
Of course the deep state doesn't like what he's doing.
But I specifically want to ask you about USAID. So this, you know, global CIA slush fund for regime change, which is, they pretend, oh, it's, you know, it's tourism training for Somalia or whatever.
No, it's not.
You know, they're hiring CIA operatives to overthrow unfriendly.
But Trump cut that off, and the Democrats are screaming.
They're losing their minds over this.
What do you know about USAID and what it has been used for, and what are the implications of this being just frozen for now?
USAID, along with the National Endowment for Democracy, these have been fronts for those people who are advocates for regime change.
These are the people that want to intervene in other people's countries.
They have agendas.
Those agendas are largely irrelevant to the interests of the American people and have been for a long time.
And they've squandered a lot of money.
They've also made lots of people very rich who participated in these scams.
I'm glad he's done it.
I wish we'd have done it 20 years ago.
But sometimes these things take longer.
Thank God he's done it.
I think it will have an impact.
But don't kid yourself.
These people are not going away.
They're the same people who are enthusiastic about quote-unquote harming Russia with the proxy war in Ukraine.
They're responsible for the deaths of 1.2 to 1.5 million Ukrainians.
They're the people that have destroyed the Ukrainian economy, the Ukrainian state.
They're the people that have driven people out of the country.
They're responsible for having converted Russia into what was a potentially friendly and helpful nation into a hostile power.
And they're responsible for having compelled the Russians to turn around and build a military establishment that is arguably the most lethal and best in the world.
And I'm talking about largely their army ground force, which is unmatched anywhere in the world today.
So these people are a disaster.
I wish there were courts of law where they could be tried and hanged because they've done that much damage.
It's not just in Europe, it's also in Africa.
It's all over the country.
It's why nobody trusts us.
Nobody wants us in their countries because we're seen as color revolutionaries.
Oh, we're here to remove you because we don't like you.
We don't like what you're doing.
And of course, in the final analysis, nothing to do with liberal democracy at all.
But that's a cover for the interventionism.
But can't, you know, if there's a restaurant in your town that's got horrible food and horrible service...
And you're like, I'll never eat there again, but then one day there's a sign up front that says, under new management, you know, you might try it again.
I know that's a simplified example, but on the global stage, is it possible that with Trump and Rubio, and I heard that Darren Beatty from Revolver News, he's going to take, I think, the undersecretary assistant position.
I think that was Victoria Nuland's position at the State Department.
That's extraordinary.
Is it possible that the world could take a fresh look at a relationship with America under this new management, so to speak?
Well, first, Darren Beatty's a good man.
I didn't know that.
I'm very happy to hear it.
There are a number of people at lower levels in the bureaucracy in the Department of Defense, I think, are equally good people.
So I'm very happy about that.
Will this make any difference?
Well, it's back to the original proposition you discussed at the outset of the discussion.
Where is President Trump?
What's wrong with him?
Why is he repeating the lies and the disinformation that was picked up and hurled at us for three, four years by the Biden administration?
Why was he talking about a million Russian dead?
Why was he saying that Putin's economy was a disaster?
Why was he saying that Putin's in danger of being removed?
His society is unstable.
All of that is absolutely false.
It's 180 degrees from the truth.
Why would he do that?
It's because he is accepting what's handed to him on the plate.
You know, that's a very dangerous thing to do.
And what has he got for a national security advisor in this man, Waltz?
What's Waltz going to tell him to do?
Waltz is going to tell him to do exactly what Sullivan was pushing under Blinken and Biden.
And he's a national security advisor.
What is Hegseth going to do?
Oh, sure, Hegseth, you can reverse all these.
Dumb programs and ideas like DEI, affirmative action and so forth, that can be done at the stroke of a pen.
Ultimately, you're still going to find resistance and you can gradually remove that.
But the things that I'm talking about, the perilous state of the armed forces, the backwardness of the armed forces, the fact that we are still organized to refight World War II 80 years after World War II ended and are absolutely not fundamentally changing at all.
Because change is not simply a function of a technology.
It's how you organize to fight, how you develop capabilities, and you put them inside a framework that is effective.
That's not happening, and I don't see any evidence of anybody in the Pentagon interested in that.
And then when you move to the State Department, I'm glad Darren Beatty is over there, but he's standing on top of a group of people who are dedicated to everything that people like me utterly hate and despise.
I went through this...
Ambassadorial prep course when I was nominated to be the ambassador to Germany.
And I sat there and it was a combination of women and large numbers of what I would call LGBTQ whatever characters.
And their agenda had nothing to do with the countries where we were going to be ambassadors.
And in fact, they wanted to push these bad agendas in places where people loathed it.
They were going to be offensive to the countries where they were serving.
I mean, it was a disaster.
You know, you've got to go in there and root all of this out.
It's not going to happen quickly.
It's going to take time.
Everything takes time.
Anybody who tells you, well, in a year from now, it's going to be different.
They're smoking something, and it's not tobacco.
That makes sense.
But thank God that that process has begun.
Trump ending so many DEI programs, ending pronouns in, you know, government emails.
And Hegseth is...
He says he's going to root out the wokeism and the DEI and the military.
But you're right.
I mean, it's a process, right?
So to say it is one thing.
To get it done takes time.
The other thing is they don't necessarily know how the hell to do it.
I've got to be frank with you.
There was a commandant of the Marine Corps named Gray.
The Marines all worshipped at his altar.
He was a very fine officer.
And he was a very tough-minded character, and he had many good ideas.
But when he became commandant of the Marine Corps, he walked into the room, and it was full of all the three stars of the Marines, because thankfully the Marines don't have more than one four star.
And he said to the officers there, he said, if you've been on station for three years, I want your papers, meaning retirement papers.
If you haven't been on station for three years, I still want your papers, and I'll review it.
In other words, he recognized that he wanted to make profound change in the Marine Corps.
The only way he could do that was what?
Retire vast numbers of senior officers.
That wasn't personal.
It wasn't because he didn't like them.
It was a professional necessity.
Now, that's what needs to happen across the Department of Defense, but it's not enough.
Gray had a vision, and you can argue about it, whether it was right or wrong or good or bad, but he had a vision.
We have no vision.
We have no willingness to look at reality.
We've learned nothing from what's happened in Ukraine.
We don't want to learn from that.
We want to go back and relive World War II. We want to defend island chains in the Pacific against Chinese forces that are never going to go there.
We want to make amphibious landings in places where they'll never happen.
We want to send armies by the hundreds of thousands via sea and air to the Eurasian continent where it's never going to work.
Everything has changed.
You try to send hundreds of thousands of troops across the Atlantic and the Pacific, They're going to be sunk.
They'll never get there.
Those days are over.
Now, Eisenhower recognized that that was the case in the 1950s, and he fought back against it, but his successors didn't understand it, and so they allowed this to metastasize.
Well, we've reached the point now of terminal cancer.
I would argue that all of our institutions have reached obsolescence.
They're suffering from terminal cancer.
It's time to completely change those things.
This administration has not come in with an understanding of that.
You need a new national strategy, not just military, but national strategy, as well as national military strategy.
You need to re-examine all your assumptions about the world we live in, because thus far, this administration has demonstrated that they don't really understand just how profound the change is.
I wish I could say that Marco Rubio finally got something right, and I'm grateful, but I'm afraid it's too little too late.
It's much more profound than he indicated.
Well, Marco Rubio also, in a comment, said that he recognized that U.S. dollar sanctions are not as effective as they used to be because nations can choose BRICS currency.
Now, Colonel, you and I have been talking about this for at least two years, maybe longer.
But finally, to hear it from an official in the State Department, that's significant.
Except that it may be too late.
BRICS does not have one currency.
They have several currencies.
The difference between them and us is that theirs are going to be backed by gold.
That's right.
That's very important.
Ours is not.
And if you look at Great Britain today, look at the London Metals Exchange.
Britain's in a very, very serious position because a margin call on the gold holdings, which means people that have invested in it own it.
They want it.
They can't get it because large.
Quantities of it may not exist.
This goes back again to Dr. Ron Paul.
Remember Ron Paul said, I'm a member of Congress.
I think we should inventory our gold holdings.
What happened?
Nothing.
No one would let us into Fort Knox.
No one would let us go into the Federal Reserve in New York, underneath the streets, connected to J.P. Morgan and other banks and find out what was really there.
I don't know what's really there now.
I think we're in a very dangerous period.
Colonel, just to back up what you said, if my producers will show my screen, gold has hit $2,840 today.
All-time high, skyrocketing, for the very reasons you mentioned.
The London Exchange is, I heard, eight weeks out of being able to deliver physical gold that people demand.
It looks like a Ponzi scheme.
Actually, I'm talking about the London Metals Exchange there.
Looks like they have committed, I mean, this is my opinion, I can't prove it, but looks like they have oversold and they don't have the gold to deliver to people.
That would be fraud.
That would be a crime.
But that's what it's looking like to me.
What happens, Colonel, if they default on their gold deliveries?
Well, that's going to have a profound effect on the continent as well as here.
And remember that a lot of that gold that they've got, People want it because they want to pack it up and send it to New York City, to the banks that are there.
Again, we don't know what's in New York City.
And I'm sure all the bankers will tell you, oh, there's nothing to worry about.
You know, back in June of 1929, Secretary of the Treasury Mellon gave a very famous speech because people then were beginning to sense that an earthquake was imminent, that something bad was going to happen on the stock market.
It was going to happen in markets around the world.
The credit markets, so forth.
And so he gave a speech.
And he said, Americans need to understand that we live in a world of unbroken prosperity.
And so everybody breathed a huge sigh of relief.
They said, well, Mellon wouldn't lie to us.
Well, Mellon had already liquidated everything that was not gold and converted it to gold.
The rest of it was converted to cash.
And he sold off anything that he thought could conceivably be a liability.
But he didn't tell anybody that.
You have several things happening right now in London and in New York that I think are similar.
So I'm very sorry for what's going to happen, but I think Starmer is not responsible for all of it, but he's made it much worse.
You remember when Liz Truss came in and within a few weeks she was gone?
Yeah.
Because she said, I'm going to do what Margaret Thatcher did.
A lot of things are coming out of Trump's mouth about what he did before or what Reagan did.
It's not going to work.
This is a different world.
It's dangerous.
And there's no willingness to step forward and say something like Churchill did, which is, I have nothing to offer but blood, sweat, and tears.
Well, he was right.
And he did the right thing by telling the truth.
We need more truth out of Washington.
I just don't hold much hope for it.
All right.
Let's pivot back to Ukraine for a moment.
I'd like to ask your opinion of how you believe this will conclude, and let me provide the context that, at least in my opinion, Russia does not appear to be in a hurry, and Trump does not appear to have any leverage whatsoever over Russia right now.
And you said 1.2 to 1.5 million casualties of Ukrainians.
No, I said dead.
Dead?
That's what I was going to ask.
I said dead.
We don't know.
But we're finding out that it was much worse than we ever thought.
Wow, because I have not heard that number until just now.
That is extraordinary.
That's highly alarming.
But go ahead.
What's your take on where this goes, or how does it conclude?
Well, you've already answered your question because you said the right things right up front.
Russia's not in a hurry.
It doesn't have to hurry.
It's watching as the so-called NATO alliance crumbles, disintegrates.
Why is it disintegrating?
Because the economies are failing and the financial systems are bankrupt.
So it's going to happen across Europe.
So why get excited about marching into Ukraine at this stage?
Into Western Ukraine, that is.
Secondly, you're right.
We have no leverage.
And that's what President Trump needs to understand.
And that's not what he's being told.
I still think that President Trump has this view of the United States.
That, you know, we're sort of symbolically Superman from the 1950s.
You know, you remember the old Superman thing that would come on television and he would stand there and say, fight for truth, justice, and the American way.
Well, that United States is gone.
We're not in that position.
So he has no leverage.
And that's why I've urged him repeatedly to disengage.
Get out.
Why pretend?
That something there is going to be won.
Why pretend to think for a second that the Russians should pay any attention to anything we say?
Absolutely not.
To disengage, though, now, wouldn't the offer to Russia have to be rather generous from Russia's point of view?
For example, you get to keep Odessa, or something that the West cannot possibly agree to, but Russia will probably demand sooner or later.
If you can't stop it from happening, what makes you think you're giving it away?
Who are you kidding?
Where is the great United States Army?
The great United States Army is in ruins.
It's got old equipment, old tanks or gas guzzlers.
Can't get 100 kilometers without running out of fuel.
You've got old helicopters, and most helicopters, as you know, if they flew anywhere near the front in Ukraine, were shot out of the sky.
So what are we going to throw in there?
What about the European forces?
Those are boutique armies.
They're designed to suppress people that we don't like in Chad or Central Africa.
It's no longer serious.
We have nothing to put up.
When you have nothing to put up, before you embarrass yourself, get the hell out.
I've said this publicly.
I really hope that President Trump eventually comes around to understanding it.
Cut the aid to Ukraine.
Just end it.
Most of it has been stolen.
Zelensky is being paid $11 million a month out of cash that we send over there.
The man is a crook.
He's in charge of a criminal operation.
Just forget him.
So stop all of the aid.
As soon as you stop the aid, the war will end and people will stop dying.
Right now, the Ukrainians have nobody to man anything new, yet we want to send a billion dollars worth of equipment there.
For what purpose?
So that the Russians can take it over, inspect it, and put it into museums?
That's what happened to us in Afghanistan.
What are we doing?
It's just stupid.
And secondly, let me finish.
Yes, go ahead.
You know, then after you've stopped the aid, get us out.
Withdraw all U.S. military personnel and people in and out of uniform.
In other words, intelligence personnel, anything.
All out of Ukraine.
Once you do that, the Russians will say, okay, it's over.
We get it.
The Americans have finally agreed this is nonsense.
We have a new president with a new administration who's not going to beat this dog to death.
The Russians do not want to govern Western Ukraine.
It's very important for people to understand that they're not stupid.
They've lived with people in that region of the world for a thousand years.
They know what's happened over the last 300. The Western Ukrainians do not want to be ruled by Russians.
They don't want to rule them.
So the most that they would consider doing at this stage is advancing to the Dnieper River.
Now, you mentioned Odessa.
Odessa is a Russian city.
It was founded by Russians.
It speaks Russian.
Historically, it is Russian, just like Crimea since 1776. The point is that, yes, they could move on that.
How much further will they move beyond Kharkov?
I don't know.
Kharkov is another Russian-speaking city.
It's considered Russian.
But the Russians are not interested in moving into areas that are historically Ukrainian.
And they exist.
And most of them are in the West.
Some are still in the Northeast.
They don't want to rule those Ukrainians either.
But they have to think about their national security.
What happens if they don't go any further and they come to some sort of agreement without any guarantees, without any assurances that Ukraine will remain neutral and never become a platform for attack against Russia again?
They would really like to have those, primarily from the Europeans, especially the Europeans that border Ukraine, but also from us.
Now, that's what we can do.
We can hold back on that until we sort out the issue of just what is it that the Russians want and are going to keep.
We can't change it.
We can't stop it.
But that's it.
I think you've pointed this out many times, and I agree with your assessment, that whatever assurances the West would give Russia...
Russia can't take any of those assurances seriously because of the history of the Minsk Accords and everything else.
I mean, and Zelensky's not even an elected official at the moment, so who could even sign an agreement?
And why would Russia even believe anything that the West would say about anything at this point?
Well, you're right, but that's why actions speak louder than words.
If you want peace and an end of the war and want to set the stage for a negotiated agreement that would turn...
Whatever remains of Ukraine into some sort of Austria, then I think you withdraw your forces and your people and you sever the aid.
That much you can do.
Now, beyond that, that's a different question.
The Europeans have a vote, too.
The European governments are changing.
Schultz is not going to last.
Macron in France is not going to last.
Starmer in Britain is scheduled for elimination shortly.
All these countries have been on the wrong path, following us blithely down the road to hell.
Their populations have had it, and you have another explosion coming, and that is a war inside these countries for the survival of their populations, their culture, their identity.
And that means they're going to have to throw out the millions of non-Europeans they never wanted and were forced upon them by the previous regimes.
Putin knows that.
He knows how that's going to look.
And I think if we do what I just outlined, I think you can get a good agreement.
But let me give you an example of what's really bad.
Many people may not be following this, but in the Kursk Oblast, this area adjoining Ukraine, where the Ukrainians sent a force in of both Ukrainians and a lot of so-called internationals, in other words, mercenaries from other countries.
They did a lot of damage, and within the last month or so, they've killed large numbers of Russian civilians because the area has been largely emptied of civilians, but the ones that stayed behind were murdered.
And the Russians have found basements with bodies stacked to the ceiling and barns and so forth.
The Russians have now said, that's it, no more nonsense.
They've just unleashed the Chechens on them.
The Chechens will go in there and they'll clean house.
There'll be nothing left of any Ukrainian or international soldier that's there.
You don't win friends.
You don't seek and achieve a peace agreement when you do stupid things like the Ukrainians have.
And that doesn't even begin to address the terrible lies told about the Russians by us and by the Ukrainians of things that they never did, atrocities they never committed.
Yes, yes.
Gosh, we covered.
There were many staged atrocities blamed on Russia earlier in the conflict.
And you know, by the way, that's not to say nothing bad happened on the Russian side.
That's true.
And the Russians would agree to that.
In wars, things are done that are not good.
Things get out of hand.
That happened to us in Vietnam, and some of that happened to us in Afghanistan, a little bit in Iraq, but not much.
It depends on the intensity and the duration of the conflict.
All I'm saying is that...
Yes, we can create a better environment that could be conducive to arrangements with the Russians, and the Russians want an all-encompassing, comprehensive arrangement for security matters in Europe involving us.
In other words, they want to make sure this nonsense doesn't happen anymore.
And by the way, we used to have this.
We had something called the Mutual Balance Force Reduction Talks.
We came up with measures and agreements dictating how many forces you would have in a particular area, who would monitor them.
They had monitors.
We had monitors.
People crossed back and forth.
It worked.
We need to do something like that again.
I think we can.
Now, is that going to solve everything?
No.
We have created hatred against us in Russia unnecessarily.
It's going to last a long time.
So it's not going to be an overnight change.
But if you've got somebody like Trump, Who is willing to say, that's it, I've had it.
You know, I'm jettisoning this old policy.
You know the old expression from Prime Minister Salisbury from 1900 in the British Empire, the biggest mistake in politics is clinging to the carcass of dead policies.
Well, Ukraine is a carcass.
That policy's bad.
I would argue Netanyahu and his group are another carcass.
We need to shed those because we got more important things to do here at home.
Well, I'm glad you brought up Netanyahu.
I want to ask you about that, but let me just comment.
I think Keir Starmer has not received the memo that his political life is limited.
He thinks he's going to rule Britain for another decade or so, but he'll be in for a surprise.
I think all those leaders you mentioned, Macron and Scholz, they all need to go, and the people there are trying to actually eject them more and more in order to save their own countries.
But Netanyahu, so...
Obviously a quagmire in the Middle East.
We've got Senator Lindsey Graham once again.
He seems to do this about every month.
He says, let's bomb Iran.
He's saying it again now.
Netanyahu, of course, I would consider him to be an outrageous war criminal at this point.
But there seems to be some level of, quote, peace.
I never know what to call it in the Middle East.
What do you think happens next with Israel?
Well, first of all, let's turn our attention to Netanyahu who is, I think, visiting tomorrow, or has he arrived today in Washington?
I'm not sure.
I haven't tracked that, but yeah.
I'm sure he and President Trump will talk.
Understand that Mr. Netanyahu's supporters, billionaires, what we call oligarchs in Eastern Europe, had a lot to do with Donald Trump's victory in taking the White House.
That's true.
They are strong supporters of Netanyahu.
Netanyahu takes the position that until Iran is destroyed and reduced to rubble, Israel will not be safe.
And he has lots of support for that position.
Donald Trump, I think, is sympathetic to that, although personally, I don't think he supports it.
He's someone that always wanted to find a way forward with Iran.
You know, Iran is not what we say it is here in the United States, not what the mainstream media says about it.
It's not what the Israelis say.
And Iran is the one Islamic state in the world that is really positioned to leap ahead into modernity in a very positive way.
So I think a war at this stage would be disastrous.
But Iran is a nation-state with a lot of people that may or may not like their government, but they will defend Iran with their dying breath.
And Iran is prepared for a very, very tough war and would do enormous damage to Israel, regardless of whatever help or assistance we provided.
So I think President Trump knows that.
President Trump also knows that there is a mutual defense pact that's being signed between Iran and Russia, and that Russia will not sit by and watch us try to pulverize Iran out of existence.
I don't think President Trump wants to bait President Putin and drag us into a war.
We don't need to fight.
That this meeting will go well, but there's no guarantee.
And there's also no guarantee that under great pressure from his donors, his inner circle, from people like Waltz and others who are advocates for this war, people like Hegseth who fall into that category, and by the way, so does Rubio.
And Noam, Kristi Noam also.
What?
Noam as well.
She's...
Oh, I don't know anything about her.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, she's all about supporting Israel no matter what.
Yeah, well, that's just because she wants to get elected.
She doesn't understand anything.
The others, I think, are true believers.
And they may think that such a war could be fought, waged, and won in relative isolation from the rest of the region.
I don't think that's possible.
What Israel has done since October of a couple of years ago...
As to poison the waters against itself in the region in a way that I think is unrecoverable.
You cannot tell everybody in the region that they are subhuman animals, that they are grossly inferior to you and richly deserve to die, and then insist that as a result, as the supreme race, you have the right to exterminate or destroy the people that are living.
In Gaza or the West Bank or southern Lebanon or anywhere else.
That's the first thing.
Israel is now in a potentially dangerous position with regard to Syria.
As Syria is supposedly this jihadist state that everyone thinks can be tamed.
Well, we'll see.
Who knows?
But Mr. Erdogan is really in control.
He's the dominant force in Syria.
And arguably, from a military standpoint, given his armed forces, is probably the major military power in the region.
He and his population are both very martial, that is, militaristic.
They have a long and distinguished history as soldiers, as fighters, and they hate the Israelis for what the Israelis have done to millions of Palestinians.
At the same time, on the other side, you have Egypt.
Egypt is the last place that wants a war.
Egypt is a place that desperately wants peace.
But you have a population of almost 100 million, and they have become ferociously anti-Israeli.
Sisi cannot sustain himself there unless he adopts that posture.
And if you look at the Egyptians, they are preparing for war with Israel in the Sinai.
Jordan is the...
It's the one that's harder to predict because Jordan is so dependent on us for money, so dependent on us for everything, that King Abdullah is paralyzed.
But at the same time, King Abdullah is viewed as an Israeli puppet, as an American puppet.
So he's in a lot of trouble.
Saudi Arabia is not going to play ball with us.
There will be no return to the Abraham Accords.
Those days are over.
If you go through the capitals of the Arab world, And you hear repeatedly behind closed doors, Sykes-Pico is over.
That was the arrangement that created Israel.
It's done.
It's over.
And it's a question of when, not if, they plan to rid themselves of this Israeli state.
So I think that's a very grim outlook.
I hope I'm wrong, because I've always believed that Israel had many virtues that the world would benefit from.
But I'm not in the region.
I'm not an Arab.
I'm not a Turk.
I'm not a Persian.
And their view is radically different.
So Egypt, in particular, when Trump halted all foreign aid, he exempted two nations from that halt.
And it was Egypt and Israel.
And Egypt, I believe, receives about $5 billion a year in U.S. money.
If they were to go to war with Israel, they would clearly...
Give up that $5 billion.
And that would bring into question the Suez Canal control, which is obviously critical to the United States.
What are your thoughts about Egypt's loyalties and role here?
Well, two things.
They're acutely sensitive to the loss of that aid.
But behind closed doors, they've had reassurances from the Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, and others that they would make up the shortfall.
Interesting.
So I think that they're willing to risk that.
For that reason.
And then secondly, they've looked at Mr. Netanyahu's map for greater Israel in the Middle East.
That reaches the Suez Canal.
Yes, and it reaches southern Turkey.
Yeah, they want nothing to do with that.
They will not allow that canal to fall into the hands of the Israelis.
And if we join that fight, the British and the French would be the most likely to get involved, although I guess conceivably could include us.
We don't know what can happen over the next two or three months.
That would be part of the problem.
The other thing is that the Israelis have been working to cultivate their relationship with the Greeks in the hopes that if things go badly with Turkey, that they can induce the Greeks to go to war with the Turks, to take the pressure off them.
You have the Kurdish problem in Syria.
The Turks have had it with the Kurds.
The opportunity for the Kurds and the Turks to sort of...
Bury the hatchet and reconcile things, I think is over.
And they're already beginning to look like they're ready to go into the Kurdish areas in eastern and northern Syria.
And I think that's going to be awful.
And I think one of the reasons that President Trump wants to get our troops out of Syria is he doesn't want to end up in a warlike posture with the Turks.
That makes sense.
Because if we stay there and try to defend the Kurds, we'll be at war with Turkey.
Which is a NATO country.
The other thing is, remember...
Remember that the Turks, they're not overtly anti-Iranian.
They don't hate the Iranians.
They're not necessarily friends, close friends and brothers.
But when it comes to the question of Israel, they're going to cooperate.
I think it would be a mistake to assume that if this becomes the regional war that it could, that everyone in the region will not ultimately turn on Israel.
Wow.
All right.
Last...
Question area I want to ask you about, although I know Europe is your expertise, but you have such a broad view of what's happening in the world.
I want to ask you about Mexico and Trump's pivot, Rubio, etc.
It looks like the U.S. is beginning to justify military operations against the drug cartels in Mexico.
It looks like the president of Mexico has so far bowed down to Trump's tariff threats and has agreed to send, I believe, 10,000 troops to the border.
We'll see what happens.
But two questions for you, Colonel.
Do you think that the U.S. military will, in fact, launch operations in Mexico?
And secondly, if you believe that's the case, what would the ramifications?
B, for security in southern Texas or border states as well as in Mexico.
What's that look like?
Keep in mind that whatever the president of Mexico says is irrelevant.
She has no power.
She's a facade.
The drug cartels govern and control Mexico.
So let's get that up right front.
Secondly, 10,000 Mexican soldiers are going to do what the drug cartels want them to do because they're probably being paid by them as well.
I'm sure the generals are all on the payroll.
Right now, the cartels dispose over formations and organizations that are as well-equipped or better equipped than the Mexican military.
I hope that we will secure the border, number one, and secure the coastal waters.
We're going to join the United States and Mexico, in the Pacific and in the Atlantic.
That should be our number one priority.
As far as going into Mexico to attack targets or whatever, or potentially to destroy something, that's another matter.
And that's something that we can do.
It's not necessarily something we want to do.
Our first priority should be to secure that border.
Now, when we secure it, if we really do, Mike, You're going to have a war with the drug cartels because you're cutting off billions of dollars of revenue.
You're going to have a war inside our country, in our cities, and even in rural areas where the drug cartels have established themselves.
And the whole business of illegal immigration is bound up with the drug cartels.
So illegal immigration is going to loom large in this whole process, which is why the first thing you do is secure the border.
Nothing gets in anymore, period.
And you put...
40, 50, 60,000 US troops on that border.
And I would make them regular army, but I would also look carefully at mobilizing portions of the National Guard and using them as well in different settings.
This has to be done professionally and expertly.
We have to have a system whereby we have a surveillance regime that looks 100 miles plus into Mexico.
We have many, many ways to do this.
We have aerostats.
That can move, that have technology on them.
We had something called J-Lens, which was developed for Joint Theater Missile Defense.
We can use that technology.
Two or three of those, either tethered or moving, can be enormously helpful.
That allows you to bring fewer forces and do more effective interdiction.
It also allows you to anticipate where things are coming.
But that has to be a robust force, so that if they take a shot at you, If they shoot at you with a shotgun, you should put a 25mm sabot round from a 25mm chain gun through them.
In other words, you've got to demonstrate that you are in charge and you have the power to destroy anything that is thrown against you.
But you have to be serious.
You have to have good rules of engagement so that soldiers know what they can and can't do.
That's why it should be regular Army first.
Too often, the National Guard is reluctant to shoot, and for good reason.
They are not as well-trained, and they're not as familiar with these things as the regular Army.
The regular Army has done this before.
We controlled that border from 1846 to 1948. We need to remember that.
And we're going to have to do it again if we're serious.
Now, once you do that and you start this deportation, which will involve the roundup of people and moving them out, along with the criminals, not just the criminals, which is what Tom Holman's talking about right now, but large numbers of people, all of that is going to be an enormous undertaking.
That's going to demand the full attention of the presidency, the American people, and it's existential for us.
If we don't do this, we will not survive, Mike.
Our republic will go out of existence.
We'll end up looking like a poor man's Brazil.
And I don't think that's where we want to go.
I think we want to remain a great power, an important great power that has real influence in the world.
But for us to do that, we've got a clean house first.
So those things have to be done.
And part of that also involves something else that has to be seriously considered.
And I know Donald Trump understands this because he did before when I saw him.
He has to be prepared to ask Congress to declare war.
On the border cartels.
Wow.
Wow.
Okay.
More than just an executive declaration, but Congress actually voting.
All right.
Colonel, we are out of time, or almost out of time.
I want to plug your website, OurCountryOurChoice.com, and just give you an opportunity here to tell us about what is Our Country, Our Choice, and what's your goal?
What are you headed toward?
We say my country, my people, My Bill of Rights.
Those are the sort of three foundational aspects of the organization.
We're interested in retaking control of the federal government, the state governments, the local governments, and putting control and legal authority into the hands of Americans who truly believe in America first.
Not Ukraine first, not Israel first, not anything else first, America first.
And we are having a lot of success.
And we're getting a lot of interest because people have figured out it doesn't matter who you vote for right now.
You get the same bad outcomes.
We're still seeing bad outcomes.
All of us are thrilled with the executive orders that are addressing some of the issues we've discussed.
But those are not enough to govern over the long term.
There's a larger war that has to be fought and won.
We've been talking about that.
And that's where we need Americans who are focused like a laser on America.
Everything that happens overseas is irrelevant next to what happens here inside our country.
Well said.
Well, Colonel, it's always a pleasure to hear from you.
Thank you for taking the time to join me today.
Sure.
Thank you, Mike.
All right.
Take care.
God bless.
And the website, folks, again, is OurCountryOurChoice.com, and you can support them.
You can join.
You can read the news.
I think they have a newsletter there.
Colonel Douglas McGregor, I think, is a voice of great experience and wisdom, and I hope and pray that the State Department and the Trump administration would listen to the concerns that Colonel McGregor is bringing to our attention.
So thank you for watching today.
Of course, I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.com, here in Texas, fighting for America and for Texas as well.
I mean, we are a border state.
We've got to clean up the problems.
And it's beginning to happen here in Texas.
So thank you for joining me today, and God bless you all.
God bless America.
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