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Feb. 4, 2025 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams

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Michael Yon and Mike Adams talk Panama, Greenland, Ukraine, Russia, Taiwan, China...

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	Welcome to today's interview with Michael Yan.
	I'm Mike Adams, the founder of BrightTail.com.
	You're not going to see me on camera because, as is often the case, I invited Michael Yan for an emergency interview.
	I'm not in the studio on this day of the week.
	But the Trump administration has cut off funding to USAID, which we all know is really a CIA slush fund for funding corrupt.
	NGOs, corrupt regimes, regime change, color revolutions, psyops, propaganda, everything around the world.
	USAID is the money dispersion hub for all that nonsense.
	And I think no one knows that better than our guest today, Michael Yan.
	So welcome to the interview today, Michael.
	Great to have you on.
	Oh, thank you.
	And this light that's lighting me up, that's the actual sunlight coming.
	I'm looking at the Panama Canal right in front of me.
	Go ahead.
	I'm sorry.
	Yeah.
	And I'm going to ask you, we're going to talk about Panama today as well.
	So I'm glad you are there right there, right by the canal.
	Oh, yeah.
	And USAID is big here.
	USAID, like their signs all down in the Darien Gap.
	You know, I'm putting up more and more videos that I've made over the years of all the destruction that USAID and the United Nations have created down there.
	I mean, like, for instance, I put up a video today a few hours ago on Substack, and it's on X as well.
	And it's, for instance, a couple of babies that are very sick.
	One of them may be dying.
	And it's right amid all the NGOs like USAID down the Darien Gap.
	I mean, this is what we see every single day down there.
	However, now that Trump has been president, and you know me, I don't hand out compliments to Trump very easily.
	But the Darien Gap flows have clearly diminished dramatically, like 95% down.
	But I'll tell you more in about two days because I'm about to go back down into the gap.
	But USAID is a big part of that.
	So, yeah, let's talk about this because Alejandro Mayorkas, who you and I both agree is a traitor who should be arrested and prosecuted.
	He was funding and setting up the camps.
	I think you, Michael, you were more instrumental than anyone else in the world on exposing the Darien Gap, the invasion camps, the routes, the maps, the NGOs, all of it.
	So you have been extremely effective at this.
	And frankly, Michael, I think if it wasn't for you, I don't think that this administration would have nearly as much awareness of the magnitude of this problem.
	So thank you for blowing the whistle on this for years.
	Thank you.
	And I would often go on with you down from one time you were translating with Chinese people, you know, live.
	That was fun.
	Yeah.
	And so I spent months down in the Darien Gap since Biden was installed.
	And then I would invite people down.
	Masako Ganaha came down 12 or 15 times.
	Ann Vandersteel, Epoch Times.
	Good Lord, Dr. Brett Weinstein and Chris Martinson, a couple of congressmen, 50 or 60 people, New York Times even, tracked us down down there and found us out in the jungle.
	Yeah, but of course the New York Times was trying to discredit your reporting, but it turns out, of course, you were accurate, and the fact that you say it's down, the Darien Gap traffic is down by about 95% right now, and also a similar number is being reported at the U.S. southern border that border crossings Are down about 95%.
	Really?
	95 on the southern border, too?
	That's great.
	Yes, that's being reported.
	I've got a message come in from the border right now in Texas.
	Let's see.
	Let me bring in really critical news.
	You know how Trump put tariffs on Mexico and Canada of 25%?
	As of right now, those tariffs from Mexico have been suspended for 30 days, so no tariffs with Mexico, because the president of Mexico has agreed, reportedly, to send 10,000...
	Federales, you know, Mexican troops, to help stop the flow of fentanyl.
	And then Trump says that Rubio and others are going to work with Mexico's leadership for 30 days to see if they can reach a deal that eliminates the need for a tariff.
	But Michael, bring in your wisdom on this because I would say that the government of Mexico is completely owned and run by the cartels.
	So how effective is that going to be?
	Well, let's think about this from a larger perspective.
	Like, for instance, I keep seeing people say we need to put tariffs on Colombia to stop the invasions or tariffs on whoever or whomever, right?
	In reality, what we need to do is, and I've been saying this over and over, thousands of times, actually.
	First of all, we need to get China out of here, right?
	I've said this thousands of times, but now people are like, Now you want China to stay in Panama.
	It's like, where did you come up with this stuff?
	I've written three books on China and what they're doing, right?
	Unfortunately, only in Japanese language.
	But when it comes to the drugs and when it comes to the human invasions, a big thing that we need to do is take off all these NGOs because they're also involved in the drugs.
	We need to defund and dismantle United Nations.
	And let me go into that.
	Even if we did tariffs on Colombia, right, which some people want to do, that doesn't stop the United Nations from helping bring them in through Nicaragua and Mexico and Canada and Bahamas, which they do, and also they're invading Europe and Japan.
	United Nations is doing all this.
	What else is United Nations doing?
	Very importantly, they are almost a working, not almost, but actually a working arm of the Chinese Communist Party.
	And I'm sure with as many people watch your show around the world, somebody on Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean is watching this and share it around your headquarters.
	As you know, the United Nations is trying to close our base at Diego Garcia.
	They're trying to take Diego Garcia from the British and give it to Mauritius.
	Now, giving it to Mauritius is the equivalent of giving it to China, right?
	So and that's way out in the Indian Ocean on the other side of the world.
	But it's strategically important for us and it's strategically important for China, right?
	So United Nations is doing all sorts of other stuff.
	We could go into that for hours.
	But skipping to the bottom line, they're involved in the invasions and this sort of thing.
	So doing these tariffs won't stop the invasions.
	But like I keep saying, and it's obviously working, cutting off the funding to the NGOs, including United Nations, USAID, all these clowns and dirt balls.
	That strangles them down.
	Now, it won't stop everything.
	However, we're concentrating our fire on the biggest demons.
	First, take them out.
	Then, as the dust settles, we can see who's still standing and go for them, right?
	Right.
	Taking out the United Nations, as you know.
	Take them out first.
	Take out USAID. And I don't mean, you don't have to bomb them.
	I'm talking cut their money off and start raiding their offices and start arresting people who are involved in human smuggling.
	Okay, so let me just back up.
	Let me be perfectly clear.
	You 100% advocate the complete defunding and the financial dismantling of both USAID and the United Nations, correct?
	100%.
	I mean...
	Clean the floors.
	Polish the floors.
	Sell the furniture.
	We don't need them.
	They're part of the problem.
	They're destroying us.
	Americans drugged out on fentanyl.
	You know, I spent about two years in western North Carolina, right, near Murphy in a place called Andrews.
	Drugs were thick out there.
	And as you know, a lot of us have friends and family in Appalachia.
	They've been absolutely ravaged by the drugs.
	Not to mention what just happened with the hurricane that Ann Vandersteel and Doc Chambers and Gary Haven were at.
	He was there with his helicopter.
	So many people were there helping, and our government wasn't helping.
	Where were all the people that get all these billions of dollars when it came to helping the people that actually pay for them, which is U.S. taxpayers?
	U.S. taxpayers pay the bulk of the funding that goes to United Nations, and obviously all of it to USAID. But can you describe?
	Explain to us the money flows, specifically about USAID, because we know that USAID then hands out money to NGOs or nonprofits that have a front, like a cover story.
	Like, oh, we provide condoms to Africans when actually they're trafficking humans.
	But then that NGO will make donations to Democrats to keep the Democrats in power, to keep the money flowing to them.
	So everybody gets a cut.
	Everything's a payoff.
	Everything's a cover story.
	Walk us through some of that.
	That's right.
	That's one of the reasons why wars can be so profitable.
	If you're going to steal a lot of money, what you want is for the money to be flowing very fast because it's easy to steal money that's flowing very fast in many different directions.
	It's hard to just go up and steal it from the bank safe, right?
	From the vault.
	But once you get it moving very quickly, it's easy to steal it.
	And so whether it's a war or there's billions and billions of dollars that goes to USAID and United Nations and all these people, that's why these earthquakes and those sorts of things are very useful situations for the people that are always waiting for the next one to happen, the big fire or whatever, and then they can just siphon off a lot of the money that was going to go to Haitians, really goes to the Clintons.
	Right, right, exactly.
	This, I mean, Trump has sent all the USAID employees home, has shut down access to the building, has given, apparently, Elon Musk has access to these transaction records, who is discovering all kinds of levels of extreme fraud.
	There are protests by the Democrats and Representative Jamie Raskin, who threatened an insurrection against Trump, in front of USAID offices in D.C. Because they're losing their minds and freaking out because the money train is halted now.
	Like, where is this going to go next?
	Remember, and I'm not saying this facetiously, a lot of these people, like, I'm out with them all the time.
	A lot of these people are clear drug addicts, these lefties, right?
	They're about to have their money cut off, which means they're going to have their what cut off?
	They're intoxicants, right?
	They really are going to go crazy.
	Like, no kidding, crazy, right?
	I'm not saying that that person is specifically, but I'm out with them all the time in so many different countries.
	They've always, so many of them clearly have something wrong with them, mentally wrong, on drugs, that sort of thing, and they're about to lose their paychecks.
	I mean, yeah, they're going to lose their minds.
	We all know what happens when you...
	Cut off a bunch of people from their intoxicants.
	Maybe Trump could put a 50% tariff on cocaine and then pay off the national debt.
	Yeah.
	And not only that, but going after these people.
	Listen, all these NGOs or many of the NGOs are directly involved in this.
	With human trafficking comes drug smuggling.
	They go hand in hand, right?
	These things go together.
	For instance, many of those...
	Caravans that you see that collect down in Tapachula, Mexico, which Oscar Blue has reported on many times, as have others.
	Oscar follows them sometimes.
	We got a briefing from intelligence people in Guatemala, and they were telling us straight up, these...
	Caravans that form in Tapachula, which is on the border with Guatemala, they're actually about, when you have a huge amount of people coming at once, it's easier to smuggle a bunch of drugs, right?
	So you form the caravan, the caravan moves north, and then as you move up at some point, you load the people down with drugs.
	And there's just so many coming across the border that a lot of them are going to make it, right?
	Right, right.
	So Tom Homan is doing a tremendous job, apparently, so far at rounding up illegals.
	And Trump has set a goal, apparently, for ICE of 1,800 deportations per day.
	Now, that's a little bit over 600,000 a year.
	In four years, that still won't be even half of the illegals that are in America right now.
	But it's something.
	Tom Homan called me when I was down here.
	I'm in Panama still.
	He wanted to know what's going on down here.
	I've asked a lot of people about Tom Homan, including J.J. Carroll and others.
	Everybody I've asked that actually knows Tom Homan says he's a very serious guy.
	They say he's a serious guy.
	I've never met him.
	He called me up and I talked with him.
	He sent me his new number the other day.
	I guess that means he wants me to call him.
	I'll call him today.
	But Tom Homan, I've heard, is a deadly serious man, which is good.
	That's the kind of man I love to deal with, right?
	Absolutely.
	And we can talk like you and I talk, either on air or off air, you know, just very straight.
	And I said to Tom Homan, you know, doing just...
	Just deporting a lot of people is important.
	Even if it were all of them, that's important.
	But if we don't defund the United Nations, it doesn't matter.
	It's like turning off the sprinklers during a hurricane, right?
	We have to shut off the hurricane.
	You know, putting out fires while the arsonists are still setting the fires, basically.
	We've got to put out the arsonists.
	And the arsonists are USAID. The arsonists are United Nations and highest Catholic charities.
	Lutheran services.
	You know, Mike Flynn's been going for their throat recently.
	I asked Mike Flynn what he thought of Tom Homan, and he said he thinks he's very serious.
	And he said, and Mike Flynn told me, he said, Donald Trump is putting his full force behind Tom Homan.
	You know, I'm not a big fan of Trump, but when Trump hits one out of the park, I call it where it lands.
	And so far, he seems to be doing fine.
	Let's see.
	The daring gap flows.
	Clearly have gone down to just the faucets just dripping right now.
	We're going to go down in a couple days, and I'll tell you what's going on.
	But one of the Indians, one of the Embraer Indians, a friend of mine down there, he messaged me a couple nights ago.
	He said, since the money was cut off to the NGOs, nobody's helping the aliens get through, so they're stopping.
	They're stopping in Colombia.
	Well, and I want to be clear that I fully support what Tom Holman is doing as well.
	We've got to get these illegals out of the country, even though you and I, Michael, we are pro-legal immigration.
	We welcome immigrants when they are qualified and they go through the process, and we as a nation get to decide who comes in.
	We can attract the brightest minds and not have all the worst MS-13 criminals invading our country.
	But what Tom Holman is doing...
	It's one front of a very effective war.
	Now, Trump cutting off USAID, that's the second part of this, right?
	So they go hand in hand.
	Like you said, it has to be multifaceted.
	And it is becoming multifaceted.
	I mean, if you're an illegal in America right now, look, I'm in Texas.
	I've talked to people who know illegals, and they say they're leaving.
	They're selling their stuff.
	Some of them are in construction.
	They're selling all their construction equipment.
	They're just moving back to Mexico themselves.
	And I said, well, why?
	Why are they doing that?
	And I was told, in one case, because they know if they get caught, then they don't have an opportunity to sell their stuff.
	So they're going to sell it and leave before they get caught, and then they actually get to take the money with them from the stuff they sold.
	You know, like construction vehicles, things like that.
	What do you think?
	That's wise.
	And you know, Panama, again, I'm in Panama.
	President Molino is pro-American.
	He has been.
	He's been very open about it.
	He's been like that for years.
	Well, he's not been president for years, but he's always been pro-American.
	He's open.
	He doesn't hide it, right?
	And most of the Panamanians are pro-American.
	The very few that are anti-American, most...
	Most of them belong to an organization called Suntrax, which is a bunch of communists, but there's not that many of them.
	It's a very small number.
	There's a lot more anti-Americans in San Francisco than there are in Panama by far.
	I went to school in San Francisco.
	I mean, there's a lot more.
	So that's important for Americans to keep in mind that Panamanians don't really look at us.
	Generally speaking, as like an ally or an enemy or a foe, they look at us like a distant family, like cousins or something, right?
	And so when they see people talking bad about them, they're like, why are Americans talking bad about us?
	Like Panamanians, they love to go to America, but they love to live here, right?
	And so a lot of them go to school up in the United States and they come back here.
	Like one of the Embraer Indian leaders, Francisco Agape, we had him up.
	Talking to a bunch of congressmen in Washington.
	But he went to school in Oregon.
	He went to university in Oregon.
	He lives in Darien.
	I'll see him in a couple days.
	I've had him up staying with one of my Green Braid teammates' homes up in Virginia a couple years ago.
	But he wants to live in Darien.
	The Panamanians, or he's Embraer Indian, they want to live down here.
	But Americans are very welcome here, despite everything going on.
	I think if you land here, you're going to go...
	There's no conflict here.
	There was a bunch of flags out yesterday, but actually the flags were the Panamanian flags.
	There was no, I mean, there was some American flag burning, but that was just that little tiny communist group.
	It wasn't, Panamanians aren't doing that.
	It's just, you know, anytime, by the way, I've been in so many protests in so many countries.
	Anytime the cameras are zoomed in.
	On like a flag or Rubio or Trump's face or whatever burning.
	If they're all zoomed in, it's always small.
	I've been in these things all over the world.
	Totally.
	If it's a huge protest, they always zoom out.
	They always get wide angle, right?
	Right.
	The photographers always get wide.
	And so they're zoomed in, you know, they're burning a flag.
	It's just a few people.
	It's nothing.
	But for the most part, and the flags, the many Panamanian flags were out were all on government.
	They weren't on private cars or in private homes.
	We drove all over the place looking.
	And then we were just out and, you know, walking around with Panamanians talking.
	They're like, hey, how's it going?
	You know, they know we're Americans.
	Yeah, well, and tell me what you think is the upshot of Marco Rubio's visit.
	He's the Secretary of State now.
	He visited and the media reported that the president of Panama agreed to...
	Stop working with Chinese construction companies, I think, when these contracts expire by the year 2028 and a shift over to American companies.
	That seemed like a significant announcement.
	What do you know?
	I think so, but we need time to analyze actually exactly what was agreed to.
	I'm not sure.
	Actually, the Chinese bridge is right over here.
	I mean, I can almost see if there's buildings in the way.
	We go to it all the time.
	They're working on it.
	That's bridge number four.
	It's right next to the Thatcher Ferry Bridge, which is the Highway 1 bridge, right?
	The Pan American Highway Bridge.
	And so it's right next to that.
	And it's actually funded by a Japanese bank, Mizua, right?
	And so, which is interesting.
	And there's a German company working there and da-da-da-da-da.
	But no American company has even bid on it.
	Now, China...
	I took a swipe back today, and you can see that their ambassador was saying some things.
	I published it on my ex about an hour ago.
	And, of course, they're going to swipe back.
	Now, I think what I would love to see Panama do is actually re-acknowledge.
	That Taiwan is a sovereign country, right?
	I love Taiwan.
	I'd take 100,000 Taiwanese in America tomorrow, you know?
	And I've said that to you before.
	You know, I've been to Taiwan quite a lot.
	Taiwan is a very, it's not Thailand.
	Americans get that mixed up, but I love Thailand as well.
	But both countries, I've spent a lot of time.
	But the bottom line is, if Panama...
	We're to actually recognize Taiwan as a sovereign country, which we should do, that would force China to make a decision whether to keep their embassy here or not, right?
	Because China has a policy that they won't invest and they won't keep their embassy in a place that acknowledges Taiwan's sovereignty, right?
	Like, for instance, in Guatemala and Belize, they still acknowledge...
	We went to the Taiwan ambassadors, Masako Ganaha and I, because Masako wanted to talk with her.
	We went to Belize.
	We went to the Taiwanese embassy and talked with the ambassador for quite a while.
	And so there's no Chinese embassy there because Belize recognizes Taiwan.
	If everybody acknowledged Taiwan, it would put China in a rough spot, actually, because their policy is...
	We're not investing anywhere that acknowledges Taiwanese sovereignty.
	So let's all acknowledge Taiwanese sovereignty.
	Well, so I agree with that, but what's interesting is that the United States itself does not acknowledge Taiwan's sovereignty.
	We don't.
	It's weak.
	We should acknowledge Taiwanese sovereignty.
	We should put an open embassy there, not some...
	What do we call our embassy there?
	I've forgotten.
	AIT, American Institute in Taiwan.
	Yeah, I've been, it's just a small plaque on the, and we should have a big embassy there, right?
	I mean, I went, you know, last year with Masako and I, we spent, I don't know how long, a month in Taiwan?
	We went to Kinman Island.
	You can swim to mainland China from Kinman Island, which is one of the, and yeah, I mean, but Taiwan, as you know, and by the way, we were talking with a friend of the Taiwanese president.
	We were in his office and went to dinner and that sort of thing, but he, I asked him about the drugs.
	I said, hey, I'm seeing a lot more graffiti here.
	I'm not used to seeing all this in Taiwan, right?
	And I said, are you having a drug problem here now?
	And he said, yeah.
	And I said, what is it?
	And he said, fentanyl.
	I said, wow, fentanyl in Taiwan.
	And I said, when I went to get my hair cut, which I need to do now, sorry, but when I went to get my hair cut in Taiwan, the barber, he had a bunch of tats and whatnot.
	And I asked him, I said, do you smoke marijuana?
	He said, oh, yeah.
	I went over to Thailand because I wanted to try it.
	And now they're basically legalizing marijuana in Thailand.
	You can't make up.
	There's thousands of cannabis stores there in Thailand now.
	So, I mean, but the drugs are coming into Taiwan, too, right?
	Now, obviously, mainland China, they have a death penalty for the drugs, right?
	But they still export those things to Mexico, the United States, of course.
	Many of the Chinese who have come through the Darien Gap, they go up to places like Maine and Oregon and Oklahoma, and they grow marijuana, right?
	Or they grow dope.
	Now, when I say they grow dope, the dopeheads, let's say the potheads, whatever, the bong monkeys, they'll be very quick to inform me that I don't know anything about dope because dope is...
	They say you're confusing it with opium, and I'm like, okay, stop smoking dope and read history, which I do every single day, right?
	The original name, dope, meant opium, right?
	But it meant opium.
	It's a derivative of a Dutch word, because it's like a paste or something, right?
	But the bottom line is, I found, like, with one minute of searching, I subscribed to newspapers.com.
	Last week, I found an article, just one minute of searching.
	I found an article from 1925 where this American doctor, he said he had treated addictions for 40 years.
	This is a 1925 article, right?
	And he's talking about dope, and he's using the word dope.
	And then he parenthetically puts cocaine, opium, and some other things, right?
	So he's actually, even back then, dope...
	It meant everything.
	It meant like soda, right?
	You know what I mean?
	And it still does among everybody except for the potheads who, for some reason, think that they're the ones who were born making up languages.
	They call us boomers, thinking that they know something that wasn't known in the 1800s, right?
	If you read old newspapers in the United States, go to newspapers.com.
	All these things that these modern-day dopeheads think that they have learned in high school or something.
	It was known in the 1800s.
	You're new to the game, right?
	Interestingly, this doctor in 1925, he was saying that the worst addictive substance that he's treated in his 40 years is tobacco.
	He said that tobacco is affecting the unborn children.
	This is from 1925. He said it was affecting the unborn children, and it was making them, as they grew up, irritable and more susceptible to alcoholism and these sorts of things.
	I don't know if it's true, but I'm just saying that was a very long op-ed from 1925 from a man who identified himself as a doctor who treated addictions for 40 years.
	Nothing is new under the sun, sir.
	I want to get us back to Taiwan, but I would...
	I would argue that the tobacco itself is not the issue.
	It's the chemical additives that the tobacco companies put into the tobacco that is highly addictive and highly toxic.
	But that's a different subject altogether.
	I mean, just as an example, like on my ranch, there's a plant that grows, yopon holly, which is the only natural caffeine High caffeine plant in North America.
	Because coffee doesn't grow in North America, right?
	But Yopon Holly does.
	And you can make coffee or like a roasted coffee out of it.
	But it was named Vomicus something.
	Vomicus, huh?
	Yeah, like vomit.
	Because the Native Americans used to make extremely intense caffeine concoctions out of it.
	And they would drink it until they had hallucinations.
	And then they would vomit.
	The colonials saw this.
	They named the plant vomicus, and everybody says it's toxic.
	But the plant is not toxic.
	I make coffee out of it.
	I harvest it on my ranch, and I roast it, and I make a tea.
	It's a coffee.
	It's a natural coffee tea.
	But the plant is not toxic.
	It's the crap that they put in it.
	Anyway.
	Wait, who's the father of toxicology, by the way?
	I've forgotten his name.
	Remember, he said the...
	I read a book.
	And he said the...
	The toxin is in the dose or something like that.
	Yeah, for sure.
	I don't know who that was, but you're right.
	It's the dose, right?
	So a little bit of caffeine and you get energized.
	Too much caffeine, you vomit.
	Of course, you know?
	It's the same way with all kinds of things.
	But getting back to Taiwan, this is really critical to understand.
	You know, since Richard Nixon...
	We recognize mainland China.
	And that was the beginning of not only the total corruption of the dollar and taking us off the gold standard, mass money printing, leading to decades of monetary devaluation and inflation and debt that we're dealing with right now, but it also began the mass movement of manufacturing to China and the sharing of a lot of industrial and manufacturing secrets with China.
	It basically positioned China.
	To be the eventual leader in the world of industry and now technology.
	So that was done by the United States, betraying Taiwan, and yet now, you know, Taiwan is still loyal to the U.S. for some strange reason, always following what the U.S. wants it to do, but the U.S. won't recognize Taiwan.
	Like, that needs to be corrected.
	Big time, especially because...
	I would love to have Taiwanese neighbors, but I don't want really mainland Chinese neighbors.
	And Japanese, Taiwanese, great.
	Thai, great.
	But mainland Chinese, you're always going to be suspicious.
	Speaking of the death of the dollar, I use those dollars, those goldbacks.
	That's not a dollar.
	You corrected me last time.
	I use these as bookmarks, too.
	That's awesome.
	Let me show you what I found in the Dairy and Gap.
	I think I told you this before.
	I found this a couple of years ago, but I keep it stored.
	It's the Wealth of Nations.
	Oh, no way.
	Yeah, I found it deep near the Colombian border.
	It's not rotted or anything.
	I asked them if I could have it.
	Wow.
	Of course, this book came out in 1776. Obviously, this is a reprint.
	Yeah.
	But it's funny, though, for those who've studied this book and understand the corridor being built.
	Well, Panama Canal is right in front of me.
	And the corridor being built through the Darien Gap and that I find this book.
	Like many miles from the nearest road out in the middle of the jungle in a small village.
	You know, you can't make up this stuff.
	I found this book.
	I'm like, what's this beautiful book doing out here?
	I pick it up.
	I'm like, that's Adam Smith, the Wealth of Nations.
	I asked him if I could have it.
	Well, you never know how the invisible hand will work.
	In this case, it brought you the book.
	Yeah.
	Well, that's interesting.
	You know, economics, speaking of that, and, you know, modern-day MMT and Keynesian economics, we are in an era right now where Trump has just announced a sovereign wealth fund for America, whatever that means.
	Apparently, America is about to take a percentage of vaccine sales that was announced right beside Trump by Howard Lutnick.
	Who said the government should get a percentage of all the vaccine sales on COVID vaccines.
	And I'm like, what?
	What are you talking about?
	We come up with this stuff.
	Well, it's all on video.
	Trump was signing this executive order.
	I mean him.
	Oh, I don't know.
	He's lost his mind.
	It's like, the last thing we want is our government profiting from vaccines that are killing us.
	Like, that's the worst idea ever.
	Who is this Lutnik guy?
	Obviously, he's a...
	I mean, it's well known he's a Zionist, right?
	He's another Zionist puppet in the administration.
	But he wants the government to make money off vaccines that are killing us.
	It's insane.
	It sounds like what he might be trying to do is the obvious, make a partner with the government so the government will make sure everybody is forced to take them.
	Well, yeah.
	I mean, anytime you have the government collecting money off a product, they're going to push the product, probably through...
	It's a wonder they don't force us to gamble.
	I know, but just thinking of how isolated that guy is, Lutnik, from MAGA and the America First movement, nobody wants vaccines shoved down their throats.
	I mean, Operation Warp Speed was Trump's biggest mistake, right?
	And now to hear more vaccines being pushed by people that Trump put in place, that's a bad red flag.
	Yeah, to put it mildly.
	To me, you know, I had dinner the other night with some interesting people.
	One was a Panamanian woman, and she talked about her father taking the jab and died, the COVID jab.
	He died within a couple days.
	Yeah, I mean...
	These stories are common.
	This country, Panama, is highly jabbed.
	I was here while they were still doing it.
	It was pretty amazing.
	And this country locked down hard.
	I mean, it was like North Korea-level lockdown.
	It was worse than anything in the United States, I think.
	I mean, if you hear Panamanians tell you about what the lockdown was like here, it was unbelievable.
	Like, men and women couldn't go out on the same days, and the hours that you could go out for, like, two hours every other day or something like that, it depends.
	It was just unbelievable.
	The lockdown was severe.
	There were people hungry in their homes and that sort of thing.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Well, and that's probably coming back because it was such a means of control.
	Michael, I got to tell you something.
	Yeah, please.
	About nine days ago, we were having dinner, and I got a message from somebody in the Darien.
	Some of the Imbara Indian villages, there's a lot of sickness going through.
	And so I started hitting my contacts very quickly, like, what's up with this?
	And so one doctor says it's something called Oroposh, and it's spread by mosquitoes and midges, which surprised me because I've studied mosquitoes quite a lot.
	I mean...
	I wear long sleeves everywhere in the world because I never know when I'm going to end up on an airplane in the jungle within 48 hours, right?
	And because mosquitoes are my number one threat in the things I do around the world.
	And I'd never heard of this disease, which surprised me because, again, I've studied mosquitoes and mosquito-borne illnesses so much.
	In fact, mosquitoes were the number one killer here in Panama during the building of the canal.
	That's right.
	Yellow fever and everything else that went with those mosquitoes.
	And so Oroposch was the name.
	So we were having dinner and we start working the phones with various contacts.
	And I said to Al Johnson, one of my co-researchers, I said, you know what?
	I'll bet you there was a patent for an Oroposch vaccine in 2018. So we checked immediately and there is.
	There is.
	Yep.
	And this disease, which apparently was identified first in Trinidad, according to what we saw, was first identified in Trinidad and Tobago in 1955. But I'd never heard of it, which was quite strange.
	Now, the Gorgas Institute is right down the road from me.
	Of course, Dr. Gorgas was the big man who was able to finally...
	Proved that the mosquitoes were killing so many people.
	He was key to actually building the Panama Canal, was controlling those mosquitoes.
	That same knowledge was taken to Walt Disney in Florida, and that's why there's no running water at Walt Disney in Florida.
	They do all kinds of things.
	If you read about how Walt Disney, how Disney World controls mosquitoes, it came right from the Panama Canal, and it's some pretty serious Knowledge there, right?
	So the Gorgas Institute's right down the road.
	So we're checking this out.
	We're like, wait a minute.
	You know, Bill Gates has got his mosquito thing down there in Columbia, which is just over the border in the Darien, right?
	And these people coming through.
	And so you can see a photo of Bill Gates at the Gorgas Institute with Carlos Slim.
	Carlos Slim, by the way, is as famous in Latin America as Bill Gates is in, you know, United States and Europe.
	Carlos Slim and Bill Gates were together at the Gorgas Institute.
	So, you know, when I was just down in Argentina, sorry, go ahead, sir.
	No, well, quickly, just as background to the audience, Bill Gates, of course, has funded development of using mosquitoes to administer vaccines.
	And if you're going to achieve global depopulation, which is, of course, what these globalists like Bill Gates have wanted, they want lower population.
	I mean, he's famous for talking about it in a TED Talk, right?
	You have to have non-consenting vaccines where people don't have to line up and show up and take the jab.
	And mosquitoes are Bill Gates' soldiers for doing that.
	I would suggest everybody read at least one book on mosquitoes.
	I've read several and then a lot more, actually, just scientific papers because I am.
	That's why I'm wearing long sleeves all the time.
	The ringer on my phone is the Aedes aegypti mosquito.
	Buzz tone that I got from one of the universities online.
	I'm always cautious of mosquitoes and those sorts of things.
	But once you start to study mosquitoes, you'll see that these things make F-16s and F-35s look like kites made out of paper.
	The mosquito is a targeting package, right?
	Yes, it's a bio drone.
	It's a little tiny drone.
	They're unbelievable.
	I mean, their ability to track down and just hang out on the wall and wait for you and deliver deadly payloads, you know, person to person.
	Yeah, it's interesting, too.
	I've mentioned this with you numerous times.
	As you know, the word malaria, for centuries people thought the...
	The malaria and yellow fever, they all thought it came from, they thought cholera and all these things came from bad air.
	That's why they call that mal-aria, right?
	But it really, so, and there was even people, like in one book that I found from 1793, there was...
	People that suspected that mosquitoes might have a play in this, but they were like, ah, you're crazy.
	How are mosquitoes going to do this, right?
	And, of course, mosquitoes had nothing to do with cholera, but mosquitoes have something to do with yellow fever and malaria and dengue and a lot of other things, and apparently Oroposh, too, and many other things.
	So finally, when Gorgas here in Panama was able to definitively say, you know, by the way, The patients that were here in the hospitals, right down the road from me during those times, they would put their beds, their hospital beds, in pans of water to keep the ants from getting out.
	You know, this is jungle.
	But the water that they kept in those pans of water, I mean, that's stagnant water.
	So the mosquitoes were laying there.
	And then, you know, they would bite people that have yellow fever, or not bite, but, you know, suck the blood, and, you know, with their proboscis.
	And then, you know, anyway, long story short was the scientists saved the day on this.
	Now, this is really interesting.
	I also want to provide context to our audience.
	When we're talking about mosquitoes and mosquito-borne diseases, we're not talking about viruses or virology.
	These are bacteria that ride along with the blood.
	That mosquitoes take from some people, inject into other people, and mosquitoes have an enzyme that makes the blood flow.
	It actually, it's an anti-clotting agent that mosquitoes inject into you, and you can't feel it, right?
	Because they're...
	I think Oroposh might actually be a virus, but I'm unclear about that.
	But yeah, but also malaria is not a virus.
	But I mean, there's different...
	And by the way, the worst form of...
	Malaria is down in the Darien now, Plasmodium falciparum, right?
	It is actually down there.
	It's killing people.
	Speaking of which, Michael, this is strange.
	Hold on.
	Before we change topics, though, I've got to mention that the cure for malaria also grows there.
	It's artemisinin, or wormwood herb, right?
	Artemisinin.
	It grows in the areas where mosquitoes grow.
	So this herb, wormwood, Which, I mean, that's the common name, wormwood, but it's called artemisinin something, but that's the phytochemical that is anti-malaria, is artemisinin.
	And you can buy that, and it also worked very strongly against COVID infections, which was really interesting.
	Oh, interesting.
	But you see, like, the WHO's global attack on herbs and wormwood.
	This is what makes malaria worse, because normally the local people—you've seen this, Michael—how many times have you gone to indigenous populations where they know how to gather the herbs and plants that treat the conditions that they experience locally?
	Oh, yeah.
	They'll be carrying stuff out of the jungle all the time.
	I was out in one of the Kuna Indian villages, and a guy came in with a bag full of—it was actually the village elder.
	And I asked if somebody was sick.
	He had a whole bag filled with different— Filled with different things.
	He said, oh yeah, one of my people has a stomach ache and I'm getting this and I'm getting that for all different things.
	Yeah, but my point is that...
	Oh, can I say one more thing?
	Yeah, go ahead.
	I was out recently in the Panama Canal near Barro, Colorado with somebody and he showed me this mosquito repellent.
	It was these Aztec ants, right?
	They look like...
	The nest looked like they're dripping stalagmites from the trees, right?
	So we went up in the boat to the tree and he broke off the end up.
	He said, you got to be careful.
	These things really, they hurt when they bite these Aztec ants.
	They call them Aztec ants because they're so painful and they attack you so aggressively.
	But he said, you got to break it off and then kill them real quick, rub them on your hands and rub it on your arms, which he did.
	He said, this would keep the mosquitoes off.
	He said, smell that.
	And I did.
	I was like, yeah, you're right.
	It's very pungent.
	He said, yeah, this is an old Indian way of keeping, you just take the ants, crush them up, and rub them on your skin.
	Wow.
	See, that makes a lot of sense.
	There are so many cases like this where cures or treatments or remedies have existed.
	Through indigenous populations all over the world, including the Amazonians, you know, the native Tibetans, the indigenous Taiwanese, actually, who are not, you know, most modern-day Taiwanese are actually just ethnic Chinese that came over with Chiang Kai-shek, but there is an indigenous Taiwan population that is different.
	I think 11 groups of them, right, in Taiwan.
	Yeah, I think 11 groups, right?
	I don't know the number, but...
	The indigenous populations are kind of like the aborigines of Australia, right?
	So these are the original people.
	They have a tremendous amount of knowledge of local indigenous medicine, which has been obliterated by Western medical, let's say, hegemony, right?
	The UN and the WHO come in and Big Pharma comes in and wipes out knowledge and tells them, oh, you're a bunch of backwoods Indians.
	What you need is these prescription drugs, you know, antidepressants.
	Like, that happens all over the world.
	It's insane.
	Yeah, but you know those Kuna Indians that I go out with?
	Usually I go out with Embara, but I go out with Kuna, too.
	And the Kuna Indians, if you look up Kuna, and it's spelled three different ways.
	K-U-N-A, or C-U-N-A, or G-U-N-A. And it's very controversial here which way to spell it.
	But look up Kuna Indians and health, and you'll find scientific articles.
	Why do they live so long?
	Why are they so healthy?
	A couple of years ago, I've told you this before, I was out in this village, out in the jungle near the Colombian border, but in Panama, on the Darien Gap, right?
	And I was out with this village elder, or he was the chief, actually.
	And we're walking around, he's barefoot, of course, and we're going all over the place in the jungle and on the beach and all this.
	And at one point, he points his finger at me in my chest, and he's like five feet tall.
	He's like, these are famous warriors, by the way.
	Kuna are known for their ability to just lay waste to the Spaniards.
	And he's like...
	Don't you take that vaccine!
	And he's pointing at my chest.
	I'm like, no, sir, I'm not going to take the vaccine.
	And he goes, ah, it's poison.
	When the center front came to my village to make my people take this poison, I said, go for my village.
	And I asked the center front, which is like the border patrol, and they're like, yeah, yeah, we don't mess with them.
	But then he starts going off.
	He's like, why are you in Ukraine?
	I'm like, I'm not in Ukraine.
	I'm in the jungle with you.
	How do you know about Ukraine?
	Along those lines, though, the government of Australia, Really pushed hard to inject the aborigine populations of Australia with vaccines.
	They did.
	They did.
	And Australia went full tyranny and they murdered a lot of aborigine, ethnic aboriginal people in Australia.
	And there's also the, I think the Maori in New Zealand are, I believe that's the indigenous populations there.
	And the same thing happened in New Zealand.
	So, you know, Michael.
	You've seen this.
	There is a kind of Western imperialist war against indigenous people and indigenous knowledge happening all over the world.
	We were just down in Argentina, Masako and I, for almost two months.
	And by the way, there's red mosquitoes there now, which everybody knows about.
	There's an information war not to kill the red mosquitoes.
	Anyway, that's Bill Gates stuff.
	But we were also out with the indigenous people.
	We had an Airbnb at 11,500 feet.
	Wow.
	Actually, if you ever had an Airbnb at 11,500 feet, there was literally llamas out running around the place, right?
	And this was out in the boonies.
	Anyway, so we started asking these indigenous people who look very much like Imbra, by the way.
	We were taking photos and sending them back to the jungle, some of our friends in the dairy, and we're like, hey, these people look like you, but we're way up in the mountains in the Andes in Argentina.
	But all those Andean indigenous people, they said they all, Had to take the jab.
	And by the way, they have very good teeth too.
	I'm always watching the teeth of these indigenous people because like the Kuna have very strong teeth and the Embaradu too, right?
	That is a sign that they will be good fighters.
	Those people out in the Andes and Argentina way up there, they have very good teeth.
	They were very strong.
	They were doing all kinds of stuff.
	Well, remember that was the research of Dr. Weston Price, right?
	The dentist.
	That's right.
	And yeah, he found that healthy teeth was associated with great health.
	But then when those people, I think he studied like Pacific Islanders, when they began to eat a lot of Western processed food, then their jaws over generations, the jaws deteriorated, the teeth didn't fit, the teeth became crowded, the teeth became decayed.
	And then also...
	Mentally, cognitively, hormonally, sexually, everything decayed.
	And that is what America is today, by the way.
	That's what the UK is.
	We are a deteriorated civilization that is living on poison and junk food and pharmaceuticals and vaccines and jabs, and it's a giant death cult, which is what I have fought against for 25 years, trying to teach people to not eat that crap.
	And I don't eat any of that crap, which is why I'm...
	A high-functioning individual, by the way, because I don't do any of that stuff.
	Yeah.
	Oh, you know, the Kuna that live out in the jungle, if you look up Kuna Health, and you'll see there's a lot of scientific articles about how healthy they are.
	But when they move here to Panama City, then they become just like us.
	Yep.
	Yep.
	And if you go...
	I talked with one just last night, actually.
	Well, you know, you go into a convenience store in Panama.
	Or like when I lived in Ecuador, I go into a convenience store, like a modern grocery store.
	What do you see?
	Processed American food, garbage, processed cosmetics, Tide laundry detergent, Procter& Gamble chemicals.
	And when the locals get into that, that's when they all start dying from diabetes and cancer.
	It's so obvious.
	They become like us.
	But you know, they have their own Olympics out in the jungle, by the way.
	They have things like...
	Breath-holding competition and all kinds of athletic people.
	Wow.
	Well, I mean, I'm not surprised at all.
	And the interesting thing, Michael, is that they have their reproductive capabilities intact, whereas the vaccine has damaged fertility.
	And you know, the Embara kids, the children, there's Wunan out there too, but I'm usually just with Embara and Kuna because that's the route that the invaders take.
	but their children are very healthy and always very happy.
	Like, like, like super well-mannered.
	They always want you to watch them climb up the tree and jump in the river and climb back up the tree.
	And they always roll in the mud.
	They wrote the kids roll in the mud constantly until you see nothing but a smile in their white teeth and their eyes in the river, back up the tree, watch me hang by one arm, stuff like that.
	Very, very happy kids.
	However, in the last four months, at least four Three people have committed suicide, and we don't know why.
	Because, like, the Embraer, like, four of our people just committed suicide, hanged themselves, right?
	Three came from Bajo Chiquito Village, which is the village where the invasions go through.
	And another one was the neighboring village.
	I've been to Bajo Chiquito probably 50 times.
	And then the neighboring village called Marangante, which I've been to, I don't know, 12 or 15 times.
	One killed himself there in Marangante, and the other three...
	And I don't know what caused it.
	It could be from malaria.
	I don't know because malaria apparently causes depression.
	I don't know what it is.
	I don't know if they're taking drugs because I asked some of the Indian leadership, Imbra leadership, and they said, we think it's alcohol or drugs because they're starting to beat their wives.
	I told you this a couple of years ago because Imbra are not known for beating their wives or anything like that.
	But now that they've made so much money.
	And they've been so involved in the invasions, which are sponsored by USAID, HIAS, United Nations, Norwegian Refugee Council, all those people.
	Now they're destroying the indigenous cultures out there.
	Like, for instance, Francisco Agape that we took to Washington, D.C. He's like my people.
	He's the mayor of 28 villages.
	He said, my people are being destroyed because they make so much money now.
	My young men don't want to learn how to farm anymore.
	They want to go to Panama.
	Panama, they mean Panama City.
	They want to come up here and drink and do drugs and get tattoos.
	And you can see them.
	They come back to the villages down there and you can tell they've been watching gangster stuff.
	They got their hat on crooked and they got the scowl and that sort of thing.
	You know what I mean?
	They come up here and they watch this garbage gangster rap crap and then they go back down into the jungle and they get in shootouts with the center front because they go out there and they...
	Rape women, literally.
	And the center front hunts them down.
	So they get into shootouts down there.
	One of them got killed about 10 days ago or two weeks ago now.
	He got shot in the chest.
	Actually, I think that one was Colombian.
	Apparently he was, anyway.
	But long story short, he was ambushing women.
	Center front hunted him down and shot him in the chest, I was told.
	But, I mean, the jungle is the jungle.
	But the Embraer normally had been...
	Very happy.
	They're punishment out there.
	They actually have the stocks, you know, where you put old school, put them in the stocks, but they're for your ankles, so it's laying on the ground.
	So if somebody, they have these village meetings where they literally ring a bell, and if you don't come to the meeting, they'll make you sit in those stocks for like an hour or something, you know?
	Well, it just speaks to the importance that Western wealth does not create happiness, and it does not create health.
	And as the Western philosophy expands to the world, it's not necessarily bringing a better quality of life to many of these indigenous populations.
	Now, Michael, you'll be fascinated to hear that I just interviewed John Perkins, the economic hitman.
	Oh, I'm almost finished with his book.
	Oh, yeah?
	Confessions?
	Right.
	So John Perkins...
	As you and I both know, politically he definitely leans left.
	Leans left?
	He broke the seesaw.
	Well, that's where he is.
	That's his life view.
	But where he's absolutely right about things is he used to work for a financial company that was tasked with going around the world and basically indebting nations to the World Bank and the CIA. And when he realized what he was doing, You know, he quit and wrote the book Confessions of an Economic Hitman, right?
	But he has now said that China is using the same model as what the U.S. used to use.
	So China is going around the world also indebting nations to the Chinese government and its financial tentacles.
	So what do you make of that?
	Big time.
	Big time.
	I say it all the time.
	China, that's exactly what they do.
	Listen, in Economic Hitman, John Perkins makes it out like, You know, his company called Maine, right?
	One of the companies, Maine, right?
	In the book.
	He kind of acts like, or maybe he doesn't know.
	He seems very smart, though.
	So I think he probably knows.
	But he wrote that book a long time ago, right?
	When did he write the book?
	I think it was like 2004, something like that.
	Yeah, not too long.
	But it's in the Bible, actually, that, you know, people will, you know, foreigners will come to your city and they'll have money and you won't and they'll loan it to you and basically own you.
	But also in this book.
	I love Grant.
	Grant was here in Panama, by the way.
	But this is one of the books from Grant's letters, right, General Grant?
	Grant was a hardcore American man.
	This guy, President Grant, you'll never go wrong reading him.
	He was a very moral man, but he was a straight-up killer in war.
	But he was a great president.
	He was very moral.
	He goes off after he was here in Panama.
	That's why we were thinking about a new name for this should be Grant Roosevelt Canal, but another friend came up with the name of Freedom Passage, which I think is better.
	But Grant, so after he was a lieutenant and a captain and all that, and he was in the Mexican-American War, and then he was in the Civil War, and then he became president for two terms, and then he realized that the United States was going to become globally involved.
	So being Grant, He jumped on the ship and he started going around the world, right?
	So he goes to all these places like India and China.
	He did not like China.
	He didn't like India.
	He only liked two countries that he really seemed to resonate with.
	And you got to get his books, man.
	Most people are not going to read this, but...
	But he liked Siam, which is Thailand, of course.
	And I do, too, actually.
	And then Japan.
	So he's in Japan, right?
	He spent two months in Japan, and he's writing letters to the emperor, which are in here, right?
	And he's warning the emperor.
	This is very important.
	This is 1879, I think.
	So he's warning the emperor, right?
	1879. Not 1970s, which is when John Perkins was doing it in the 70s, right?
	In the 60s and 70s and 80s, I think.
	In the 70s, it doesn't matter.
	But in about 1879, Grant's in Japan, and he's warning the emperor of Japan.
	He's like, listen, outsiders are going to come to Japan, and they're going to go to China, and they're going to make Japan and China fight each other.
	And then they're going to loan money to China.
	And loan money to Japan to fight each other, and then they're going to own both of you.
	So he warns him back in numerous letters back and forth.
	Former President Grant now, he's doing his two-year world tour.
	He's warning the emperor of Japan, do not take foreign loans.
	Or you will lose your sovereignty.
	And the emperor of Japan is very thankful as Japanese are.
	And he clearly took that to heart because Japan is not one of those countries that's like wallowing in debt.
	They do have too much.
	But it's interesting, too, because he was also in he went to Paris, right?
	Grant did on his world tour, and he starts warning hardcore about communists, right?
	So this is 1879. Keep in mind, communism was only born in about, what, 1948-ish, 1949-ish, right?
	So communism was kind of new, but he's using the word communism, and he's talking about it.
	He's warning about communists.
	That's really something.
	I'm really fascinated by that.
	However, in the interest of time, I want to do two things.
	I want to ask you about Ukraine and how you think that ends, but I want to give you an opportunity first to mention how people can follow you, your Twitter handle, etc., and your Substack.
	Go ahead.
	Thank you.
	I'm on Substack.
	I just published a video from the Darien Gap, actually, with unbelievable babies out there and stuff.
	Anyway, it's on Substack and on X, so my name is Michael Yon.
	Last name is Y-O-N, Yankee, Oscar, November.
	Not young, but yawn.
	And so I'm on Substack and X. By the way, I've told you this like 20 times now.
	Your name pops up everywhere.
	It's really bizarre.
	I had dinner with some Hollywood people the other night, and they were talking about you again.
	It's really weird.
	Every show I come on, I'm like, and I just met somebody else.
	One of them was a stunt, man.
	Played Spider-Man or whatever.
	It's pretty wild.
	You know, Michael, I mean, I don't talk about this much publicly, but just to answer that question, I have – there are people, high-level people, A-list actors, et cetera, in Hollywood that I have advised for years, and I've kept that private, and I always will, and they know that.
	Maybe that's why.
	There's – you know, look, people realize that I'm willing to speak out of the box or think out of the box, and I've got access to – Lots of knowledge.
	In the meantime, though, I want to ask you about Ukraine.
	So how do you think this is going to end?
	Not well.
	I mean, I'm not tracking Ukraine day in and day out because there's so much other things going on.
	But it's basically unfolding as we predicted before the first shots were fired, that it wouldn't go well for Ukraine or anybody.
	And certainly not us.
	I mean, just take a random dart and throw it at anything that I've published about it or any.
	Well, you've got AI now you can look.
	What does Michael Yan think about Ukraine?
	True.
	I've been very consistent, you know, that I thought it was going to end badly.
	And it's not because, as you know, many people will confuse your prediction of what you think will happen, what you sense will happen with what you want to happen.
	Those are correct things like I don't want there to be a genocide.
	Ireland.
	But I sense that there will be, right?
	Will there be?
	I don't know.
	But that's my sense, and it's a very strong sense at this time.
	And it was likewise with Ukraine.
	I always thought from the beginning, this is a huge error to enter into this, unless you have other things that you're up to that don't have anything to do with freedom, which obviously...
	You know, what's going on has nothing to do with freedom.
	It has to do with routes and resources and actually Laban's realm, to use an old term.
	Yeah, well, exactly.
	So, but I mean, can you be more specific about, do you think that Trump is going to negotiate a deal with Russia where Russia, Ukraine, and Trump all sit down and agree to something?
	I don't know.
	Is Russia excited about doing an agreement?
	Or are they dragging their feet?
	Because Russia, I think, seems to have the advantage at this point.
	I think Russia has all the advantages.
	Trump has really no leverage against Russia at this point, as far as I can tell.
	Russians are too shrewd.
	They're not DEI people.
	You know what I mean?
	These people are thinkers.
	They think very carefully before they make a move.
	Russians should always be respected as opponents.
	No question about that.
	It's been a terrible mistake thinking we would just steamroll the Russians.
	I'm like, do you understand who they are, right?
	This is the eye of the tiger stuff, right?
	And they're playing a hard game.
	Before anybody gets hired at the State Department, they should be required to read The last thousand years of history.
	You know, like you do, Michael.
	I mean, we have people, especially the Biden regime, they didn't know any history.
	And that's why they thought they could steamroll Russia.
	They're just ignorant fools.
	They're children.
	They're literally children.
	I see that a lot in Westerners now.
	Not all, but some critical mass.
	And Masako's father in Okinawa calls them bearded boys.
	They're boys with beards.
	I mean, they're older, but they're like children.
	Like, where's your skateboard?
	You know what I mean?
	It's like, yeah, you're 40 years old and you want to act like you're a teenager.
	You want to be cool with the 20-year-olds.
	Hey, why don't you be 40, right?
	Why don't you...
	Take charge now.
	You've reached an age of your life where it's time to take on a leadership role, right?
	And not act like a teenager.
	But this is part of the information war against us is to actually diminish the manliness and make them into males, not men.
	And these males, when they look at problems, they think they can just wish our way through it.
	Correct.
	Cry a little bit, and that would make enough rain to feed the corn, as the Pashtuns would say, right?
	Or just put out propaganda news stories out of NATO and claim that we're winning everything when we're losing badly.
	That's like a drug addict thing to think, by the way.
	Like, if I believe it hard enough, and it will use the word...
	I started to adopt this from you because sometimes during your show, you've said abracadabra.
	Like, I say it, and therefore it exists, right?
	And which, you know, can actually happen at times.
	But the whole idea that I can just, you know, wish us to beat the Russians and therefore it will be, this is like a druggie farce.
	Yeah, yeah, seriously.
	But things are changing dramatically.
	Did you see the comments of Secretary Rubio over the weekend?
	He said that...
	We can no longer operate as a unipolar power in the world.
	We have to prepare for a multipolar world.
	Did you see that?
	I didn't see those comments, but it will be a multipolar world as well.
	I mean, there's no question about it.
	Actually, I've got the comments.
	I happen to be covering this.
	I've got it right here.
	This is published on state.gov, the actual transcript of his interview with Megyn Kelly.
	And he said, quote, He said eventually you're going to reach back to a point where you had a multipolar world, multi-great powers in different parts of the planet.
	We face that now with China and to some extent Russia.
	And he's saying that, now I'm paraphrasing, he's saying that the United States can no longer really be the world's police.
	That's what he's saying.
	You look at the old maps like pre-World War II and post-World War II. The world is divided up into North America, where we have Canada and Greenland and all that, all the way down through Central America to here.
	And then South America is demilitarized and Africa is demilitarized.
	And it's not exactly how things are playing out.
	But this idea has been going around for a long, long time.
	It predates anybody that's alive right now.
	It goes beyond our great-grandparents, right?
	Speaking of which, great-grandparents, I've mentioned this to you before.
	One of my direct relatives was the first baby born on Bermuda who lived, right?
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	I've been thinking about that.
	Think that one through for a minute.
	There was no indigenous people there at the time, right?
	And that is why Bermuda is today.
	The oldest British, what is it actually?
	Is it Sovereign Bermuda?
	It's kind of complicated what it is.
	I don't know.
	But it's still under the British crown, right?
	It's a territory or a protectorate, whatever the proper term is.
	But it's because of that shipwreck that occurred in 1609 on the way to the Virginia colony.
	I think that one threw for a minute.
	It goes with that one.
	Right.
	A shipwreck becomes a colony.
	That's happened many times.
	I'll become the king of Bermuda, and we will use that as a bargaining chip to keep Diego Garcia, because the United States is trying to take Diego Garcia and give it to Mauritius, which means China will have it, right?
	I mean, I'm thinking about this in a strategic sense, but anyway.
	Okay, so asking then about Greenland, right?
	And we're talking about territory.
	So I've explained to my audience, obviously, if you look at the planet looking down on the North Pole, suddenly Greenland makes perfect sense because you've got all of Russia on one side and then you've got North America on the other side and Greenland in the middle.
	It's like, oh, wow.
	So that's where Greenland is, right?
	We never look at the world that way.
	But if you do, it makes perfect sense.
	What's your take on this?
	Because J.D. Vance says that Trump is absolutely serious about doing a deal to...
	Buy Greenland.
	What do you think?
	He should be serious.
	I mean, when people said Trump was ludicrous last, you know, I've never liked Trump, but he's not always wrong.
	And, you know, Masako Ganaha and I, we went to Yellowknife last year, which is the capital of Northwest Territories.
	And we went there specifically because we saw this emerging, right?
	So you see, last night we...
	Our team met for about eight hours yesterday discussing various things like this, and we discussed Greenland quite a while.
	Masako and I are thinking about actually going back up there to Nunavut.
	For those who know what I'm talking about, the Chinese communists and Americans and Russians and others, we always have used indigenous people to break them off, like down here in Darien or down in Patagonia or whatever.
	The Chinese are doing it in Patagonia.
	But separating off the people up in northern Canada, into a separate indigenous I think it's 2 million square miles, right?
	It's massive.
	It's called Nunavut.
	And it's right along that passageway, right?
	Again, that's why Masako and I went up to Yellowknife last year.
	And we're there for, I don't know, 10 days or so.
	And we're thinking about going up.
	Well, we're not going to go now.
	It's pretty cold.
	But we'll wait until it warms up a little bit and head up there and talk with the elders in Nunavut if they'll talk with us.
	And I'm guessing that they...
	Probably would.
	That's up, you know, getting close to the North Pole.
	But again, these indigenous groups are always, you know, part of the grand chessboard here, right?
	And that's why down in the Darien Gap, for instance, the three Indian tribes down there are used, and down in Columbia and everywhere, right?
	Everywhere we go.
	Whether it's Ainu over in Japan or some separatist groups up in Hokkaido.
	Of course, the Russians want those Kuril Islands.
	And this is all part of what we're talking about.
	It's all part of routes and resources, right?
	Like Panama now, I'm sitting in one of the most important places on Earth, and the Darien Gap is also very important.
	And one of the ways that they split countries apart, like Thailand.
	I think Thailand...
	And I know my Thai friends, I've had a huge Thai readership in the past, so a lot of Thais know who I am.
	They know how much I love Thailand, so when I say this, it's out of love, not out of...
	What I want.
	But Thailand is clearly under attack.
	Thailand is under attack by the United Nations.
	We went there last year.
	You go down to Bangkok and to those malls and the UNHCR is taking donations.
	They got their little machines taking your credit cards to sponsor these people in northern Thailand and other places to get Thai citizenship and to do other things.
	They're doing this so that they can...
	Anyway, the bottom line is...
	They are attacking you in Thailand.
	That's why you have all these thousands of new cannabis stores that you didn't have two years ago.
	Cannabis stores are everywhere.
	That's the number one.
	China has been using intoxicants against Thailand for at least since the 50s that we know of, at least since the 1950s, right?
	And in fact, in the book Rape of the Mind, Juiced Merlot, the Dutch psychologist, he talks about that.
	His book came out in 1956. He's talking about China using opium.
	As a weapon of war against the Thais.
	And Thai people that have been around their country much, which I have.
	I've been in all 77 provinces.
	What, 77, right?
	I've been all over Thailand, right?
	I'm quite familiar with it.
	It's very complex.
	It's easy for malicious actors to do anthropological warfare and get everybody fighting each other in those 17 languages that are out in the Esan in the Northeast.
	They can get all those people speaking.
	When I was in the...
	When I was in the war in Nepal, I was a year in Nepal.
	The Maoists were constantly trying to get everybody to speak their old languages again.
	They were trying to get the Tibetans to only speak...
	That's what they do.
	They get you linguistic warfare, their anthropological warfare.
	They're trying that again.
	As you know, the Thai-ification program from the 1950s and 1960s and 70s to get everybody speaking Thai.
	King Rama IX, one of the most incredible men on earth.
	Was the glue holding Thailand together.
	He was very much against drugs.
	He was very much about Thai resiliency.
	He was always teaching resiliency, like squeeze out every drop of toothpaste before throwing anything away.
	Grow something in your yard.
	Have fish ponds.
	We went to a Thai resiliency museum.
	Last year in 2024, every Thai should study King Rama IX and know he wanted everybody to speak Thai and not just to speak Thai, but to speak Thai with precision and with pride, that your grammar is accurate, your writing is very good and clear, that even the alphabet, everything is perfect, right?
	That's smart.
	But now they're trying to break this apart.
	Go back to the teachings of King Rama IX. Rest his soul.
	He's still with us.
	I'm American.
	I was born and raised not to like kings, but I greatly respect King Rama IX. He is the glue that pulled Thailand together.
	And now the Chinese communists and other communists, some of whom are American, most Americans will be behind Thailand on Thailand's side.
	They are trying to get everybody.
	To do drugs, to break apart, to be weak, be these man boys, bearded boys, and not act like men.
	You know, Thais are strong, and it's time to stay Thai.
	Thailand is strategically important, just like here.
	That's why we were just down on the Krah Isthmus.
	China is building that railway down from China.
	And they just opened another railway station a few weeks ago, just north of Bangkok.
	And that's going to go all the way down to Malaysia, down the Krah Isthmus, where they're going to build that inter-oceanic corridor between the Andaman Sea and the Gulf of Siam, you know, the Gulf of Thailand.
	They're going to build that railway down to Malaysia and to Singapore, which is where the Strait of Malacca is, right?
	So, I mean, this is all geostrategic.
	Already thousands of Thai businesses are going out of business because of that train.
	In wrapping this up, Michael, from what you just said, I think it's critical that we remind our audience that if you don't understand geography right now, you're going to miss what's happening.
	Even with what Trump is doing with Panama or Greenland or why we give so much foreign aid to Egypt.
	Why Egypt?
	Suez Canal, right?
	Suez Canal, Red Sea.
	Don't understand the geography.
	You will miss what's happening in the world.
	That's what I love about you, Michael, is that you understand the geography.
	You understand the sea lanes.
	You understand the migration lanes, weaponized migration, international trade, naval power projection, all these issues.
	This is what determines the fate of the world.
	These are the issues.
	I'm channeling these old military officers, you know, because these guys, they were all into geography.
	President Grant, General Grant.
	Good Lord, was he into geography, right?
	He was here in the Panama Canal, right?
	Well, it wasn't the Panama Canal.
	He was here before it was built.
	You know, every child they tried to take through, every one of them died.
	The canal wasn't built yet.
	It was a long story.
	But the bottom line is, a lot of us people were buried not far from me, actually, in the National Cemetery, where they were eventually moved to, is over here.
	So we have a National Cemetery here.
	But the bottom line is, these old-school military officers...
	One of whom just messaged me this morning, a retired colonel.
	These guys study a lot.
	They study a lot of stuff, too.
	And one of those is energy.
	They study energy.
	They study geography.
	They're not just studying tactics and weapons and Navy SEAL crap, right?
	They're studying big boy war, right?
	They're studying how things like the Panama...
	That's why I keep coming to the Panama Canal.
	That's why we were in northern Canada.
	That's why we keep going back.
	Thailand is the hyphen between Indo and Pacific.
	General Grant, after he was president, he went to Siam, too.
	He was in Siam in about maybe 1878-ish, right?
	And he was going to these places because he realized how important they were.
	Just last thing, speaking of Thailand, Trump signed the Sovereign Wealth Fund executive order for America today.
	And I tweeted out, I said, hey, everybody, you know how you can have your own sovereign wealth fund?
	Buy gold.
	And that's what Thai people do.
	Thai people are so into gold.
	Yeah.
	When you say you're saving money and...
	You know what Thai say?
	It's actually an old Chinese saying.
	One of my Thai friends, she's from Chinese descent.
	Her name is Soi.
	Actually, I'll send this to Soi.
	And Soi says from her Chinese family, they say, big brother has gold, little brother has cash.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And if you want to survive the global fiat collapse, have gold, folks.
	It's like rule number one.
	Okay, Michael, it's been an extraordinary conversation.
	As always, it's like a world tour with you every time.
	It's incredible.
	And there's so much more we could talk about.
	Of course, there'll be opportunities again, but I just want to thank you for your time today.
	It's been extraordinary.
	Thank you, Michael.
	It's a great honor to come on your show.
	Somebody will see it here and tell me in the next couple of days.
	It's really weird.
	Well, it's funny.
	I mean...
	A lot of people in the know internationally love to watch our interviews, especially when you're on.
	Because you and I have, let's say, more world experience than most Americans, for sure.
	And that's wisdom.
	You have a rare level of understanding that you...
	Usually when I'm talking like this, it's kind of difficult for most people to track it, but you actually...
	Not only track it, but you're ahead of it.
	So it's very good discourse.
	Well, I say you can't understand the world if you've only lived in America.
	You really can't.
	I mean, you have to go somewhere else.
	And, you know, a lot of people have.
	A lot of people have lived somewhere.
	A lot of people in the military were stationed somewhere.
	And that's a good experience to know that America is not the center of the universe, actually.
	I mean, it's a big world out there.
	It's a lot going on.
	That's why I tell all the young people to travel to at least five countries.
	Just five.
	And in at least five countries, and if possible, spend a couple of years like President Grant did after he was president in general.
	But he recognized it was time to get well.
	Actually, he had already traveled abroad.
	He'd come to Panama when he was an officer and he invaded Mexico, you know, little things like that.
	But it's important.
	Just travel to at least five countries.
	It'll change the way you look at the world.
	Oh, Michael, I'm sorry.
	One more question.
	Speaking of invading Mexico.
	Trump and Rubio and Holman are talking about using the U.S. military to attack the narco cartels in Mexico.
	Like, wow.
	That sounds like an invasion of Mexico to me.
	Can you comment on that before we go?
	Yeah.
	I mean, this could obviously get quite very serious because, as you know, the cartels, Mexican cartels are right here.
	They're in Darien, actually.
	And believe it or not.
	And they're just...
	Tendrils of it that help with the flows.
	But they're all over the United States, right?
	These are sophisticated people.
	I mean, there's different levels of the cartels, just like there's different levels of any organization or country.
	There are the sort of street thugs with tattoos on their faces, with the low IQs and that sort of thing.
	And then there's people that are highly, very sophisticated.
	Their children go to Harvard and Yale and off to London.
	Learn to speak Russian and Chinese and all kinds of stuff, you know, Mandarin.
	I mean, so in other words, the people that are really running the show are sophisticated people.
	They're not just somebody that grows coca and then tries to catapult it over the wall, right?
	I mean, you can get up into a straight-up hardcore war.
	Well, but a follow-up question, if you don't mind, is if Trump...
	He invades Mexico with the U.S. military to go after the cartels.
	Couldn't that result in the Mexican military facing off against the U.S. military in Mexico?
	I mean, could this end up in a nation-on-nation war?
	You know, the Mexican, I had a cousin that went to their senior officers.
	Of course, there, what's it called?
	There's only a few American officers that go to it.
	But actually, he told me, and another American officer that went to it both told me, that the Mexicans actually have always thought the United States was going to invade them again.
	So we have always been their biggest war game opponents, right?
	In their military training, it is that America will invade them again.
	Actually, President Grant, if you read, not in this book.
	But in his autobiography that he wrote with Samuel Clemens, Mark Twain, if you read that book, he talks about how we actually provoked Mexico to create, cause us belly, trying to get the Mexicans to attack us.
	This would be 1848, right?
	Trying to get the Mexicans to attack us so that we would have cause us belly, right?
	And actually, President Grant's like...
	That didn't seem right.
	You know, one day those Mexicans are going to, you know, not take too kindly on this.
	But he also, then he talks about how, you know, to stand up against your country when it wants to go to war, you're going to be...
	Living for the rest of your life in an unenviable position.
	He says it very clearly.
	You know how Grant was.
	He's a super clear speaker, right?
	And so he thought what happened was wrong there.
	And by the way, you know the last battle of the Civil War actually happened in Texas at SpaceX.
	It was after the Civil War.
	This is not the Mexican-American War.
	But the Civil War, the U.S. Civil War, the last battle actually happened at SpaceX.
	The Civil War was over, but, you know, it took a little time.
	It wasn't Twitter back then.
	It took a little time to get the message.
	And there was, you know, weapons that were being smuggled in from the Mexican side and that sort of thing.
	Yeah, there's actually monuments down there at SpaceX.
	Really?
	I had no idea.
	Yeah, I've been to SpaceX dozens of times.
	There's monuments there.
	Well, I knew you'd been there, but I didn't know that there was a Civil War battle fought there.
	That's very far south.
	Michael, it was the last battle of the Civil War.
	It's crazy.
	The last one.
	Well, I mean, today we have Twitter and email, so maybe the world will get out faster this time.
	The next Civil War.
	Yeah, I mean, obviously a war with the cartels could be very bloody within the United States and obviously in Mexico.
	It would be sad.
	I mean, but you can see the conditions are set for it.
	And there are people that would love us to do that, such as Russia, Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua, China.
	Of course, there's a lot of lithium up there on our border.
	I mean, there's a lot of people that would love to see.
	And by the way, again, I'm in Panama.
	Panama is a juicy lamb with a bunch of pork chops around its neck.
	And we got a huge copper mine here.
	China needs copper.
	United States needs copper.
	Everybody.
	Panama Canal, right out this window.
	Darien Gap, energy.
	These rivers run with gold.
	They do.
	They literally do.
	I visited a gold mining city in Ecuador that was extraordinary.
	But anyway, you have way better stories than I do, but that was one of the cool things.
	But look, the U.S. military is going to be looking for a victory of some sort after losing to Russia in Ukraine.
	So it seems to me like a war on the cartels in Mexico is something where the U.S. military could actually have an upper hand because of air power and helicopters and everything.
	And, you know, it's like our military is getting its ass kicked in Ukraine.
	But remember, the Mexican cartels are in Austin, Georgia.
	They're in Dallas.
	They're in Houston.
	They're in Colony Ridge.
	They are all over the United States.
	These are serious people.
	Absolutely, they are.
	With drones.
	Speak English fluently and Spanish, right?
	And actually, they make great soldiers.
	Like the Mexicans you see that join the U.S. military.
	Like, I've been in combat with a lot of Mexican-Americans.
	They make great soldiers.
	I'm sure they do.
	Yeah.
	Why would we want to fight them?
	I would rather them be on our side.
	You know what I mean?
	But here we go.
	Well, I'm also really concerned that avocados will become more expensive.
	So I don't want to see that happen.
	Because I love my Mexican avocados from Michio Khan.
	I'm drinking avocados every day.
	Oh, man.
	There's great avocados in the Darien, man.
	The Kuna people have great avocados.
	Imbara, too.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, I love it.
	I love all the food from Central and South America.
	It's really just a food mecca.
	Okay, Michael, we'll wrap it up here, and I'm sorry to keep you, but thank you for your time.
	It's always just an incredible pleasure to speak with you.
	Thank you, Michael.
	Anytime.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Take care, Michael.
	And for everybody watching, again, follow Michael Yon.
	His Twitter handle is Michael underscore Yon.
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