BBN, Jan 31, 2025 – US Senate reveals absolute government WORSHIP of vaccines...
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Welcome to Brighteon Broadcast News with Mike Adams, the Health Ranger.
Welcome to Brighteon Broadcast News with Mike Adams, the Health Ranger.
Alright, welcome to Brighteon Broadcast News for Friday, January 31st.
Yeah, oh my goodness, it's the last day of January.
2025, I'm Mike Adams, the Health Ranger.
Thank you for joining me today.
I am so disgusted by the behavior of the U.S. Senate.
What a bunch of pharma shills.
So I decided, with the help of Suno, the AI music generator, I did like a really fast effort to put together a song for you about RFK Jr. versus the Senate, and it's called RFK Jr. Gonna End Their Dark Rain.
So I'd like to play that for you now.
It's three and a half minutes.
Let's enjoy.
RFK Jr. fights, he's the voice for our lives.
Big Pharma's got the Senate, but we've got the fight.
Health, freedom for America, take back our rights.
They push their poison, but we're breaking the chains.
RFK Jr.'s gonna end their dark reign.
The Senate's a circus filled with corporate clowns.
Big Pharma's their master, they're all breaking us down.
They take their kickbacks, they're selling their souls.
While Bobby Kennedy, he's exposing the trolls.
Vaccine damage rising, they're hiding the facts.
Depopulation whispers it's a silent attack.
But Kennedy's fearless, he's calling them out.
Reforming the FDA, that's what it's about.
No more drug ads, no more lies on TV. No more price gouging, let the people be free.
He's fighting for us, while they're counting their stacks.
We're standing with RFK, we're taking it back.
They try to silence the truth, but the people rise.
RFK Jr. fights, he's the voice for our lives.
Big Pharma's got the Senate, but we've got to fight.
Health, freedom for America, take back our rights.
They push their poison, but we're breaking the chains.
RFK Jr.'s gonna end their dark reign.
The CDC's corrupted, the NIH a pawn.
They're pushing their agenda from dusk until dawn.
But RFK Jr. shine a light on their game.
Exposing the lies, calling out the shame.
No more kickbacks to doctors, no more price monopolies.
We're done with their greed, we're done with their policies.
He's fighting for reforms for the health of our nation while the Senate's attacking with false accusations.
They try to silence the truth, but the people will rise.
RFK Jr. fights, he's the voice for our lives.
Big Pharma's got the Senate, but we've got to fight.
Health freedom for America, take back our rights.
They push their poison, but we're breaking the chains.
RFK Jr.'s gonna end their dark reign.
They're pushing their vaccines, they're pushing their drugs.
They're filling their pockets, they're pulling the plugs.
But RFK Jr.'s fighting, he's giving us hope.
He's cutting through lies, he's helping us cope.
No more depopulation, no more control.
We're taking back power, we're taking back soul.
Health freedom's the future, it's the path we must take.
For the sake of our children, for the lives at stake.
They try to silence the truth, but the people will rise.
RFK Jr. fights, he's the voice for our lives.
Big Pharma's got the Senate, but we've got to fight.
Health freedom for America, take back our rights.
They push their poison, but we're breaking the chains.
RFK Jr.'s gonna end their dark reign.
Health freedom for America, it's the battle we're in.
With RMK Jr. leaning, ready to win.
No more corruption, no more lies.
We'll make America healthy, we'll reach for the skies.
Stand strong, stand tall, let your voice be heard.
Health freedom for all, let's spread the word.
All right.
Alright, welcome back.
Wow, what an extraordinary time in which we are living.
And extraordinary tools for expression also.
I mean, I have a lot of experience with Suno because I've done my other songs with Suno, like I Want My Bailout Money, and I've also done Vaccine Zombie, but I haven't released it yet.
So it literally took me...
I think I did that song that you just heard, I think I did it in 90 minutes.
With the...
The lyrics and the song and the generation and had to edit a couple sections.
I think my total time was 90 minutes, which is just unheard of, right?
Crazy.
But anyway, thanks to AI, we can get that out more quickly.
The message of that song is really critical for our time, and I want to play several videos for you here, especially about Bernie Sanders, who says he wants RFK Jr. to negotiate.
This is incredible stuff.
Let me start with the first video here.
This first video shows Democrat Senator Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island basically demanding that RFK Jr. never say that vaccines aren't perfectly safe and that RFK Jr. has to support mandatory vaccinations.
I mean, listen to this insanity from, of course, a Democrat.
Senator, check this out.
I've got a lot of experience with CMS, so you're just going to have to listen.
Two things.
One, if you want to move from advocacy to public responsibility, Americans are going to need to hear a clear and trustworthy Recantation of what you have said on vaccinations,
including a promise from you never to say vaccines aren't medically safe when they in fact are, and making indisputably clear that you support mandatory vaccinations against diseases where that will keep people safe.
You're in that hole pretty deep.
All right, how insane is that?
Like, you have to swear that you'll never say that vaccines are in any way harmful or that they don't work.
I mean, this is completely insane.
Here's another video showing this bizarre exchange between Senator Bernie Sanders, who I'm convinced has been lobotomized probably by vaccines.
Between Sanders and Kennedy, watch this.
This just gives you a taste of how that all went down.
Check this out.
I'm going to make America healthier than other countries in the world right now.
Will you guarantee do what every other major country does?
It's a simple question.
And by the way, Bernie, the problem of corruption is not just in the federal agencies.
It's in Congress, too.
Almost all the members of this panel are accepting, including yourself, are accepting millions of dollars from the pharmaceutical industry and protecting their interests.
I thought that that would come.
No.
I ran for president like you.
I got millions and millions of contributions.
They did not come from the executives, not one nickel of PAC money from the pharmaceutical industry.
They came from workers.
In 2020, you were the single largest receiver of pharmaceutical money.
Because I had four contributions from workers all over this country.
Workers, not a nickel from corporate tax.
You were the single largest except for pharmaceutical dollars.
No, from workers in the industry.
1.5 million.
Yeah, out of 200 million.
All right, but you have not answered.
Last question.
So finally, RFK Jr. Finally calls out these pharma whores.
And Bernie Sanders just flatly lies and denies that he took money from Big Pharma.
Of course he took money from Big Pharma.
So did Senator Elizabeth Warren and all these other senators that are attacking RFK Jr. They all took money from Big Pharma.
They're all corrupt.
They should not be allowed to vote on confirming.
I mean, the threshold for confirmation should be lowered.
As all of these conflict of interest senators are removed, why should they get to vote when they're paid to vote against reforms?
They're paid by the very industry that's profiteering off of disease and death and vaccines.
And so when RFK Jr. wants to come along and clean this up, of course, Big Pharma just pays these senators to shut him down.
This just shows you the total corruption of the system.
Just complete corruption of the system.
And to show you something else, the total insanity of Bernie Sanders, check out this next thing where he says to Kennedy, he says, will you insist that Medicare continue to negotiate on drug prices?
And Kennedy said, well, President Trump made it clear to me he wants to negotiate.
And then Bernie says, negotiate is a big word, Bobby.
It's a big word.
And Kennedy says, it's the word you just used.
I mean, check this out.
This is unreal.
Watch this.
Very specific questions.
Do you believe and will you insist that Medicare continue to negotiate prices with the pharmaceutical industry so we can substantially lower prescription drug costs in America?
President Trump has made it very clear to me that he wants to negotiate prices.
Negotiate is a big word, Bobby.
It's a big word.
It's the word you just used, Senator.
But no, I use defend a particular law.
So has Bernie Sanders lost his damn mind at this point?
It's like, negotiate is a big word.
It's a big word.
Kennedy's like, it's the word you just used.
And he says, no, no.
But he just did.
Just, it's so hilarious.
And this reminded me of a clip from the movie Fifth Element, which I call...
Does anybody else want to negotiate?
If you haven't seen Fifth Element, starring Bruce Willis, it's like 25 years ago, I think, or something like that.
Check out this clip about does anybody else want to negotiate?
This is funny.
Anybody else want to negotiate?
Oh, I forgot to tell you, by the way, the interview today is actually...
My appearance on Man in America with Seth Holhouse.
We had a great conversation.
That was, I think that aired yesterday or the day before.
I think, yeah, two days ago.
And it was a great conversation.
Seth Holhouse is just fantastic.
We talked about AI. We talked about survival, preparedness, off-grid, all kinds of stuff.
So I'm going to air that for you today.
But I do want to mention I've interviewed John Perkins, the economic hitman.
And I'm going to be playing the John Perkins interview for you next week.
Plus, I've also interviewed, well, just a number of pretty amazing people.
I'll just leave it at that.
I've got some great interviews lined up for you, and you're not going to be unhappy about it, that's for sure.
You're going to love these interviews.
But for today, it's me as a guest with Seth Holhouse, Man in America.
Now, I've got a couple other things.
I have a special report for you here.
Despite all this insanity from the United States Senate, you know, ultimately, I mean, first, the first thought that probably we all share is, why do we need a Senate again?
These people don't represent us.
They don't represent the American people.
As Bernie Sanders just demonstrated, they're mostly scumbags.
There's a few exceptions, like Senator Rand Paul and, you know, a few others.
But not many.
Not many.
Right?
Most of, well, especially on the Democrat side, most of the senators are just treasonous.
Just, how do you even say?
Like, lower than scum.
They are, they betray their own constituents.
They don't abide by the Constitution.
They harm America for their own self-interest.
That's the simple truth.
You know, Congress was created in a time when you had to get on a horse and ride to Washington, D.C. Even the telephone.
We didn't have email.
We didn't have TV or radio or anything in those days.
So you had to send somebody to Washington to represent you because, you know, it would be weeks before you even heard from Washington.
Today, we could all log in and vote ourselves.
We don't need senators.
I think we should have not just term limits, but just like all their term limits are up now and all their terms.
Shut down the Senate.
Shut down the House.
We don't need any of it.
It's just pure corruption.
But there's actually more to it than that.
And I wanted to play this special report for you, which is entitled, Senate Confirmations Don't Really Matter Because the U.S. Empire is headed for collapse anyway.
Yeah.
You know, I'm just going to say it bluntly, as usual, but we don't have much longer.
As a nation.
There's a lot of weird stuff going on right now.
You believe the White House explanations about these drones?
Oh, they're all good.
It's just FAA. No, it isn't.
There's weird explosions happening in the sky in Oregon.
You know, what's with this Black Hawk helicopter flying into this airplane seemingly on purpose like they were trying to kill somebody or a number of people?
And it wasn't just the Russian skaters, I don't think.
Who else was on that plane?
Well, we don't know.
Something's about to go down.
You can sense it.
Did you know that gold has hit a record high?
Do you know that gold has risen nearly 30% since the beginning of just last year?
So just in, what, 13 months, gold is up about 30%.
It just broke through $2,800 an ounce, all-time high, and who knows where it's going from here.
What's going on?
Who's buying all the gold right now?
That's the question in my mind, because I did not see anything in the public financial news that would have spurred a sudden purchase in gold, but somebody's buying gold.
Is it central banks?
Is it wealthy family hedge funds?
Is it the billionaires?
Who's buying all the gold?
Clearly somebody knows something that we don't know.
Somebody's buying a lot of gold.
And clearly the dollar is, you know, collapsing, right?
That's clear.
It's collapsing and it's purchasing power.
So, you know, the U.S. empire, especially with the rise of AI that we've talked about, if the U.S. doesn't win the AI race, it's done anyway.
So I'm not even sure that this whole system...
I don't even think it's salvageable, frankly.
But that's the subject of this special report.
So let's go to that now, and then I'll have a music video for you.
Not my music video, but a really interesting music video about economics on the other side of this special report.
So stay tuned.
Here we go.
Even though the U.S. Senate hearings that are targeting RFK Jr. show a disgusting depth, Of pharma whores and how it's become the United States of vaccines and how the Senate is so corrupt.
And except for a few exceptions like Senator Rand Paul and maybe a couple of others, the United States Senate is just treasonous, just the enemy of the people.
There's no other way to say it, okay?
Especially the Democrats.
That's who they are.
They just want to keep inflicting vaccine damage on children and abortion murder of children all across this country.
They hate America.
They hate the American people, etc., right?
But I'm here to tell you something.
None of this matters as much as you think.
And here's why.
I mean, you know, we go through these confirmation hearings and, you know, Kosh Patel is going through a rough hearing.
They're grilling him over interviews he did with Stu Peters and other people.
And I interviewed him once or twice, I think, also.
And it's like, oh, how dare you do interviews with, you know, controversial people?
And it's just so insane.
Here's why it doesn't matter.
And I know this answer isn't popular.
This isn't what people want to hear.
Probably not even what you want to hear listening to this, but here it is.
The U.S. empire is in a collapse stage.
And it's not just the financial collapse that's coming, because we've been living in this massive, massive financial bubble, this artificial economic reality for at least, well, since 1971, right?
So over 50 years, we've been living in this artificial reality.
That reality is going to come crashing down, and it's going to end the life savings of most people.
I mean, people who have savings, which seems to be a falling number anyway.
But that's not even the biggest threat to this empire.
The biggest threat is the AI supremacy of China and China reaching superintelligence very soon.
And then the U.S. empire is done.
As I've said before, if this happens during the Trump administration, Trump will be forced to sign a total unconditional surrender to China.
And the U.S. will become a Chinese colony.
You know, the U.S. will end.
The dollar will end.
The U.S. Senate will end.
Which, you know, ending the U.S. Senate would probably be a good thing.
Ending the dollar would also be a positive thing.
But we would no longer, you know, we would no longer be American.
And that's not a good thing.
I want America to do well.
I want America to succeed.
But that's not the path that our nation is currently on.
For a number of reasons that I've talked about.
You know, Democrats sabotaging this country.
But here's the truth about the last days of America.
Since DeepSeek released its R1 reasoning model, open source to the public, it was an extraordinary achievement.
The CIA has been in desperation mode trying to discredit DeepSeek.
And you've probably seen the stories in the obedient corporate media.
Oh, DeepSeek stole secrets from OpenAI.
No, they didn't.
Oh, DeepSeek ran on a bunch of illegal microchips.
Eh, give me a break.
You can't just ban microchips from other countries.
You can't say, oh, China, you're not allowed to buy microchips.
They will find ways around it.
They'll buy them from dealers in Malaysia or wherever.
You can't just ban microchips.
They've got to find a way around.
It's like trying to ban Russian oil.
Russia's going to sell oil to India no matter what.
They're just going to move it from one ship to another.
Now it's no longer Russian oil.
Now it's like Turkish oil or whatever.
It's ridiculous how the West is always trying to dictate who can buy this and who can sell that and you're not allowed to buy these things.
That's the way the U.S. looks to the whole world.
Clown show of lunatics and tyrants.
But here's the thing.
DeepSeek was no fluke.
Because just now, the Quen company, which is also China-based, just announced Quen 2.5 Max, which is another large language model that actually beats DeepSeek version 3. And it beats OpenAI, and it beats Anthropic, and it beats Llama.
Beats everything.
And you can run it for almost no cost.
And I think they have the open source version available too.
I think they have a 72 billion parameter version that you can just download and run.
So no, the deep seek phenomenon was no fluke.
It wasn't mass theft.
It wasn't stealing secrets from open AI. Those are all CIA narratives.
All bulls**t.
Because China is winning the AI arms race.
China is years ahead of the United States.
And that's almost game, set, match right there.
That's almost checkmate.
Because if you're even six months ahead in the AI race, you win.
You win the prize of superintelligence.
And whoever gets to superintelligence first...
We'll absolutely rule the world.
And so here we are, you know, fretting over whether RFK Jr. is going to run HHS. Is he going to reform the FDA? You know, as much as I'm rooting for RFK Jr. and I'm rooting for Kash Patel, etc., none of it actually matters in the medium term here, even just within a few years.
If the U.S. can't win the AI arms race, because the U.S. will cease to exist.
That's why.
And, you know, observing the behavior of the U.S. senators and what filthy, disgusting creatures they've become, absolute prostitutes for big pharma narratives, vaccine pushers galore, it's obvious you can't reform this system.
You can't fix America's corruption.
And economically, You can't fix America's debt.
You realize, and I think that Elon Musk knows this.
I'm pretty sure Trump knows this.
You know, anybody who's intelligent has figured out there really is no saving the current system.
And I've said it here many times.
The only real answer to saving America is to end the current system.
Default on the dollar debt.
End it.
Shut down the entire existing government infrastructure and start over.
You know, total reboot of the system.
New currency, new government, small, small government, you know, no taxation of the public, etc.
You've got to restart the entire system from scratch, which means reform over the FDA or reform over CDC is probably never going to come.
From within.
It's probably never going to be meaningfully achieved, even by RFK Jr., despite his best efforts.
The real reform is going to come when the system craters and there is no FDA. There is no HHS. There is no NIH. There is no CDC because there is no federal government under the current system.
There is no dollar, etc.
And that day can happen virtually overnight.
I don't know when it's going to happen.
That can happen almost instantly, just like the collapse of the former Soviet Union in 1991. All of a sudden, boom, it was over.
It was done.
And why did that happen to the Soviet Union?
Well, for a lot of the same reasons it's happening to America right now.
You know, overextension of military costs and military supply chains and military bases, massive corruption within the bureaucracy.
Total waste of money all over the place, and of course, money creation, just inefficiencies throughout the system, etc.
That characterized the Soviet Union in 1991, and that characterizes the United States today.
And interestingly, the United States has become just as authoritarian, just as corrupt, and just as incompetent as the Soviet Union was in 1990. I mean, you look around the U.S. government, Only 6% of federal workers even show up to work, to work a full work week.
Now, that sounds exactly like the old Soviet Union, doesn't it?
Nobody really working, but everybody collecting a salary, everybody trying to protect their power, but nothing actually gets done.
Yeah, that's America today.
America 2025 is USSR 1990. Almost the same.
And yes, the system's going to crater.
I was listening to Alistair McLeod, a financial analyst out of the UK, I believe, who is warning that 2025 is probably the last year for the dollar.
At least, I think that's what he said.
He was talking about a collapse of the Ponzi debt scheme.
And although it's very difficult to put timetables on these predictions, the overall long-term outcome of this...
You know, because of decades of Keynesian economics and MMT and massive money printing, endless debt, you know, $36 trillion in debt and growing, the outcome is not in doubt at all.
The outcome of this whole system is a total collapse of the dollar, a total collapse of the United States empire.
That's going to happen, I'll just say, soon or maybe inevitably.
We don't know when.
We don't know if it's this year, next year.
We don't know if it's going to happen as Trump is president.
But I suspect it will.
Because we are dealing with a totally corrupt, broken system that is irredeemable.
And I'm glad Trump won the election.
And I know he's making a noble effort.
And I'm glad RFK is willing to expend his...
Resources and effort and to subject himself to this ridiculous inquisition by the U.S. Senate, a cabal of, you know, pharma-funded criminals.
I mean, I admire what RFK is doing.
I'm just saying that very quickly, none of it matters.
Because the whole system is obsolete.
The whole system is actually done.
It will crater.
You won't have a United States of America.
What you will have instead is either a new republic that Trump forms, you know, the Republic of America, maybe, a new name, or will be a colony of China, and China will rule us with AI surveillance and who knows what else, you know, social credit scores, the whole deal.
But the days of America being this dominant world power that can just sail its aircraft carriers around the world and weaponize the financial system against every country, those days are over, okay?
You know, the BRICS currency is rising up.
Most countries will choose to replace dollar trade with BRICS trade because BRICS is honest.
And it can't be counterfeited and it can't be weaponized against participating nations.
So yeah, you're going to see a lot of countries switch over.
The U.S. Navy is obsolete.
You're going to see aircraft carriers destroyed very quickly in any conflict that might crop up here.
Russia's Oreshnik missiles can easily penetrate aircraft carriers top to bottom.
Just punch holes in them and those holes fill with ocean water pretty quickly, it turns out.
Or China can just destroy them with hypersonic missiles.
Our aircraft carriers are done.
The whole system of the U.S. is obsolete.
And these zombie senators that are 100 years old have no idea.
They have no idea what's happened.
They are old, crusty, obsolete dinosaurs who won't give up power.
Former Senator Feinstein or Mitch McConnell, cognitively impaired, should be in a nursing facility.
Instead, he's still a senator.
Unbelievable.
Kind of like the way Joe Biden was.
They have no idea what's coming.
And, you know, frankly, most of the American people have no idea what's coming at the same time.
So this is going to be a universal shock for a whole lot of people when it all starts to hit the fan, when the dollar collapses.
And you're going to see people lose 99% of their wealth.
The home prices will crater because we're in a real estate bubble.
Bond prices and values will crater.
Stocks will crater.
We're in a stock market bubble.
I mean, we are in a 50-year stock market bubble.
We are in a 50-year easy money bubble ever since Nixon took us off the gold standard in 1971. We have been in a bubble ever since.
Most of you listening to this have only known bubble conditions.
You have never lived in economic reality, nor have I. None of us have.
We've been living in an era of apparent easy money, and that's why there's so much money in crypto and so much money in stocks and so much money to be thrown around in venture capital and so much money in real estate, because it's a giant freaking...
Bubble.
It's the everything bubble.
And that bubble is going to burst.
And even if China doesn't conquer America with AI superintelligence, America collapses and implodes due to a breaking of that bubble.
And that's probably, like I said, not far away.
I don't know when exactly.
There's no way to know because it's going to be a triggering event that we cannot anticipate.
Something out of the blue, you know?
We'll come along and then just crack the frail system, shatter it into pieces, and people are going to wake up and find out, oh, your bank's closed, yeah, oh, the whole banking system doesn't function anymore, yeah.
Okay, so what do you do now?
I mean, what do you do when the entire Western financial system freezes up, paralyzed by debt?
Well, you know, the only way they're going to rescue it is to print more money, right?
You know they're going to do that.
They're going to print, this time, tens of trillions of dollars.
Maybe hundreds of trillions of dollars.
U.S. debt will skyrocket from $36 trillion to $100 trillion.
The interest on the debt will skyrocket to, you know, $5 or $10 trillion a year.
Which is more than the entire revenue of the entire federal government.
The whole thing becomes unsustainable.
And then internationally, everybody loses faith in the dollar and in the treasuries, and everybody just starts to panic sell, and it's over.
It's over.
That day is coming.
And when that day comes, you're going to wish you had gold.
That's for sure.
You're going to wish you had silver.
You're going to wish you had alternative forms of currency and value, because everything in the financial system essentially goes to zero value.
Or close to it.
Because the currency will be hyperinflated into oblivion.
You know, Weimar, Germany territory here.
So, I'm just telling you what's coming.
I know it's really hip and fancy and everything to talk about.
Everybody should get Bitcoin ETFs and everybody should invest in this new coin, this meme coin, this Trump coin, this Melania coin.
Whatever.
That's for suckers, okay?
That's for suckers who have no clue.
The wealthiest people that I know are all buying gold.
And that's what I'm doing as well.
And I'm not living in poverty myself either, although I'm not into luxury living.
But I know how to manage money better than almost 99.9%.
Even more than that.
Look, everybody I know who has money is buying gold.
And when I say buying gold, it's not even accurate.
It's just trading fiat for gold.
To have gold is such a critical part of the answer here to make it through whatever collapse is coming.
If China conquers America, the dollar goes to zero, and maybe the yuan becomes the currency in America.
Well, you'll be able to buy yuan with gold.
China's buying gold like crazy.
Thousands of tons of gold.
Tens of thousands of tons.
I mean, the smart people all over the world are buying gold because they know what's coming.
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I always say, do your own research, get your own financial advisor.
I am not your financial advisor, and this is not investment advice.
This is more like survival information, frankly.
But do your own research and make your own decisions.
And recognize that gold and silver can go up or down, but the dollar is going down, down, down, down, down.
There's just, there's no question where the dollar's going.
So, metalswithmike.com, find out how they can help you.
And in the meantime, pray for America.
Pray that we overcome this insanity, this corruption, this fraud that the Senate is demonstrating right now.
And thank you for listening.
Mike Adams here, the Health Ranger of brighttown.com and naturalnews.com.
Take care.
Alright, welcome back.
Hope you enjoyed that special report.
Now I've got a really fun video to play for you today.
It's a video that's been out for quite a few years, just to be clear.
15 years ago, to be exact.
It's from a channel called Radical Discourse, which does these kind of highly produced...
Rap videos or event videos, I don't know, all kinds of interesting things.
But this video is very intelligent because it's a rap video between characters playing Keynes versus Hayek.
So, you know, this is Keynes representing the money printing side of things, the endless debt, big government printing, fiat currency, versus Hayek, which is more the Austrian economics, fiscal discipline, letting the busts happen so that it cleans out.
You know, letting debt systems implode so that you don't end up with a much bigger problem down the road.
So this debate between Keynes and Hayek has been going on for, you know, a very long time.
And all the big government people love Keynes.
That's why it's called Keynesian economics when you just print money and print money and print money until the whole system collapses.
And that's the track we're on.
We are on the Keynesian track.
And it's a track that ends.
In collapse, by the way.
So check out this video.
It's really intelligent.
It's kind of on the long side, but it's very well done.
And the words are highly informative.
This really makes a lot of sense.
Check this out.
Lord Cain's.
Welcome, sir.
It's a pleasure.
The pleasure's all mine.
Your agenda.
That won't be necessary.
I am the agenda.
Tell them I've arrived.
And then tell them I've arrived.
And your name is...
Hayek?
F.A. Hein.
Connect.
Freddy!
Hey listen, party at the Fed.
20 minutes.
Lobby.
John Maynard Keynes.
F.A. Hayek.
Yeah, we're opposed.
We oppose each other, philosophically.
In the same studio.
We've been going back and forth for a century.
I want to steer markets.
I want them set free.
There's a booming bus cycle and good reason to fear it.
Play well interest rates.
It's the animal spirit.
John Maynard Keynes wrote the book on modern macro.
The man you need when the economy's off track.
Depression, recession, now your question's in session.
Have a seat and I'll school you in one simple lesson.
Boom!
1929, the big crash.
We didn't bounce back, economy's in the trash.
Persistent unemployment, the result of sticky wages.
Waiting for recovery?
Seriously?
That's outrageous.
I had a real plan, any fool can understand The advice real simple, boost aggregate demand C-I-G, all together gets to Y Keep that total row and watch the economy fly We've been going back and forth for a century I want to steer markets.
I want them set free.
There's a boom and bust cycle and good reason to fear it.
Play what interest rates.
It's the animal spirit.
You see, it's all about spending.
Hear the register.
Cha-ching!
Circular flow.
The dough is everything.
So if that flow is getting low, doesn't matter the reason.
We need more government spending.
Now it's stimulus season.
So forget about saving.
Get it straight out of your head.
Like I said in the long run, we're all dead.
Savings is destruction.
That's the paradox of thrift.
Don't keep money in your pocket or that growth will never lift.
Because business is driven by the animal spirits.
The bull and the bear.
And there's reasons to fear its effects on capital, investment, income, and growth.
That's why the state should build a gap with stimulus.
Both the monetary and the fiscal.
They're equally correct.
Public works dig and ditches.
War has the same effect.
Even a broken window helps the glass man Have some wealth, a multiplier, driving higher The economy's health And if the central bank's interest rate policy tanks A liquidity trap, that new money stuck in the banks Deficits could be the cure you've been looking for Let the spending soar, now that you know the score My general theories made quite an impression Revolution I transformed the econ profession You know me, modesty, still I'm taking a bow So say it loud and say it proud, we're all Keynesians now
We've been going back and forth for a century I want to steer markets.
I want them set free There's a boom and bust cycle and good reason to fear it I made my case, Freddie H, listen up, can you hear it?
I'll begin in broad strokes, just like my friend Kane's His theory conceals the mechanics to change.
That simple equation, too much aggregation, ignores human action and motivation.
Yet it continues as a justification for bailouts, payoffs, by poles with machinations.
You provide them with cover to sell us a free lunch.
Then all that we're left with is debt and a bunch.
If you're living high on that cheap credit hog, Don't look for a cure from the hair of the dog.
Real savings come first if you want to invest.
The market coordinates time with interest.
Your focus on spending is pushing on thread.
In the long run, my friend, it's your theory that's dead.
So sorry there, buddy, if that sounds like invective.
Prepare to get schooled in my Austrian perspective.
We've been going back and forth for a century.
I want to steer markets.
I want them set free.
There's a boom and bust cycle and good reason to fear it.
Play while interest breaks.
The place you should study isn't the bust.
It's the boom that should make you feel leery.
That's the thrust of my theory.
The capital structure is key.
Malinvestments wreck the economy.
The boom gets started with an expansion of credit.
The Fed sets rates low.
Are you starting to get it?
That new money is confused for real, loanable funds.
But it's just inflation that's driving the ones who invest in new projects like housing construction.
Consumption's up too, and the grasping for resources reveals there's too few.
So the boom turns to bust as the interest rates rise, where the cost of production price signals relies.
The boom was a binge, that's a matter of fact.
Now it's devalued capital that makes up the slack.
Whether it's the late 20s or 2005, booming bad investments seems like they'd thrive.
You must save to invest, don't use the printing press, or a bus will surely follow an economy depressed.
Your so-called stimulus will make things Hold on, that's a wrap.
We've been going back and forth for a century.
I want to steer markets.
I want them set free.
There's a boom and bust cycle and good reason to fear it.
Play what interest rates.
No, it's the animal spirit.
The ideas of economists and political philosophers, both when they are right and when they are wrong, are more powerful than is commonly understood.
Indeed, the world is ruled by little else.
Practical men who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influence Are usually the slaves of some defunct economist.
The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design.
They've been going back and forth for a century.
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Almost no one in society today seems to understand what's going to happen when the price of cognition goes to essentially zero.
And when I say the price of cognition or the cost of cognition, if you think about it, until AI came along, And now we have these very powerful reasoning models, which are free, open-source models like DeepSeq and others.
Before that day, cognition was purely a human endeavor.
I mean, yes, you had computers with spreadsheet software, etc., but they didn't really solve problems.
They just ran, they're just sort of elaborate calculators.
You still had to have a human being putting the right formulas in the right cells.
And thinking through the problem, okay?
And to have a human being that is capable of thinking through those problems takes at least 20 years of time, maybe more, depending on the level of education required to solve problems.
You know, a PhD in mathematics typically takes maybe more than 20 years, you know, to grow up and for that.
It takes more than 20 years, typically, for a human being to develop the cognitive skills to be good at solving problems.
And then, even at that point, it takes their time and effort in order to apply their cognition.
And that time and effort has a dollar cost value to it.
Because that person has to live, has to pay rent, has to eat food, pay electricity, etc.
So there's been this really relatively high cost associated with cognition and problem solving.
And that's why engineers or coders or some finance math people have been paid a lot of money to do what they do.
Up until now.
Up until now.
So what is about to change, the process has already begun, is that the cost of cognition is going to zero.
Or near zero.
It's so low that you won't even meter it.
And on top of that, cognition will be decentralized.
It will become widespread.
So for example, instead of the high-level physicists and mathematicians, Being found only in universities and maybe some government research departments and certain corporations and things like that.
Instead, that skill set will become widely available to anybody on their desktop at virtually no cost, achieving, in essence, mass decentralization of cognition.
So that a farmer can have on his desk a microchip, a little computer with reasoning models loaded into it that can do high-level physics, that can do high-level math, that can calculate seed load requirements and crop yields that can calculate seed load requirements and crop yields based on soil conditions and weather conditions.
It can even probably simulate weather and all kinds of incredible things.
That's just one example, obviously.
Every person, or nearly every person, will be able to put A PhD-level mathematics problem solver on their desk, or a chemistry solver.
I mean, every laboratory, I can think about this in our lab.
I can't even tell you how many times we would have a question, like, what are the best solvents for this molecule?
What's the, you know, is it a polar molecule?
What's the solubility?
And how many moles of this and that?
And how much of this do we need?
And that, you know, for ionization of the chromatography, it's just on and on.
I can just ask a model to do it now.
A reasoning model that's trained in chemistry, which they are.
So that's one thing to realize.
So the cost of cognition is going to zero.
There's another important reason why that's the case.
It's not just that AI can do now what humans would take a good part of a lifetime to learn how to do.
It's that you can't replicate a human PhD math professor.
You can't just clone that person and have a carbon copy and then suddenly have two PhD math professors, right?
It doesn't work that way.
But you can do that with AI. You copy the file.
For example, the DeepSeq reasoning model has a file.
It's a GGUF file that's, well, in one distillation, it's like 20 gigabytes.
That's what I'm running on my desktop.
It's a 20 gigabyte file.
I can just copy that to another computer, get a graphics card for that computer, load it up.
Now I've got two math professors, you know?
And obviously I can just keep doing that.
I can scale it.
I can have a thousand math professors and maybe they're all working on a really hard math problem or they're working on different components of a math problem or they're working on chemistry and advanced materials problems.
Or medical problems or, you know, whatever, finance, you name it.
I can replicate and I can have a thousand experts at pretty low cost.
Compare that to hiring a thousand PhDs and all the human resources and all the sick days and all the benefits and all the pensions and all the complaints and all the, you know, just the human problems that nobody wants to deal with, frankly.
If you're just trying to engineer something or build something, or even coders, you know, today's reasoning models can write code really, really well.
And instead of hiring coders at $150 an hour now, you can maybe hire one coder who is augmented by AI, and that person is multiplied through the AI tools, and that person can accomplish as much as five coders or even ten coders.
That kind of thing is underway right now.
So think about it this way.
Any kind of cognitive problem that needs to be solved in the world, whether it's an engineering problem, what are the loads on this bridge, you know, or it's a physics problem or an astronomy problem or a medicine problem, whatever, finance problem, they will all soon be solved almost instantly because cognition will be...
Commoditized and widely available and extremely inexpensive.
You'll be able to ask common machines, even at some point on your phone.
Your phone will be able to run weather simulations like a supercomputer from 10 years ago on your phone.
Your phone will be able to generate movies, generate songs on the fly, generate any kind of content, generate articles, you name it.
They will all be able to do that on edge computing devices for almost nothing, for the cost of, you know, a little bit of electricity.
That's it.
So ask yourself, how does that change the world?
How does that change economies?
How does that change R&D departments?
I'll tell you, like, one obvious way, and there are many of these, One thing it does is it puts the development of advanced materials and advanced chemistry into the hands of, let's say, non-wealthy nations or smaller nations.
So right now, developing weapons and aerospace technology and the advanced materials for stealth bombers, etc., that requires large nations.
Really, there are only a few nations in the world that can do that.
You know, Russia, US, China, maybe the UK, but not so much recently.
Probably India is moving that direction, Iran moving that direction, etc.
But it's a very small list of countries that could do that until now.
Now, you're going to have this capability in the hands of many, many different nations, even Many different small or smallish corporations.
So let's say you're a small business in America and you want to design a new drone, like a fixed-wing drone or something.
Well, it used to be you'd have to hire engineering firms to go through all the aerodynamic design principles and stability tests.
You'd have to have all kinds of, you know, computer code simulations, and then you'd have to have a 3D designer that'd have to use AutoCAD or whatever.
Or let's say really soon here, this year, you'll be able to simply prompt an AI program to do all that for you.
So in summary of where we are so far in this, we realize that as the cost of cognition goes to essentially zero, then obviously those people who specialize in cognition, you know, engineers, mathematicians, physicists, chemists, etc., well, you know, they're going to be replaced, many of them.
Or you could say the value of what they offer the world is no longer as valuable.
So yeah, you can spend 20 plus years becoming a high-level physicist.
And everything that you can do in physics can be done by a computer for, you know, one ten-thousandth of your cost, let's say, or a millionth, something like that.
However, what's interesting about this, And this is kind of the silver lining of this, and this is how human beings remain relevant in a world with a lot of AI compute potential.
Somebody still has to describe the problem.
In other words, as it's called, prompt engineering.
Somebody has to prompt the AI in the proper way so that the AI can solve the problem.
And also, this is where it really matters, is...
We always need creative, innovative humans to imagine new things that might be achieved through cognition.
So whereas before, a lot of, let's say, physicists were sitting there working out the problems, often with the help of software and computers, but not AI before, now they can offload more to AI and they can focus on the things that they want to do.
Like, hey, could we have, I don't know, High-powered laser weapons on Humvees or something for the military.
I don't know.
Maybe there's a way to do that.
Could we increase battery energy storage density by a factor of a thousand?
Well, that's going to involve probably some pretty crazy chemistry or physics or both.
Material science, you know?
Now they can work on those problems and offload the thinking to the machine while they, the inventor, they focus on...
Strategies for solving the problem.
Strategies for describing the problem or even telling the AI system some of the possible pathways of how to potentially approach the problem.
So on one hand, you could say, well, AI is going to make a lot of this thinking capability of high-level people obsolete.
But on the other hand, it frees up those people to do higher-level strategic thinking.
Planning, innovation, laying out goals for the AI, etc.
And that's the pathway to remaining relevant in the age of AI. AI cannot replace the human mind.
It can't replace innovation or creativity.
It can crunch numbers.
It can do a lot.
It can solve problems now.
It can read word problems and solve them.
But somebody has to tell the system what's the problem or what's the challenge.
Now, something similar to this will happen in the world of labor, but not as dramatic because you can't really say the cost of labor will go to zero because anytime you're involved with labor, even if it's a robot doing the labor, well, there's still a cost associated with that.
Somebody has to make the robot, somebody has to maintain it, and anything with moving parts will eventually wear out or fail.
So somebody has to, you know, replace the robots, replace the parts, etc.
So robot labor will not take the price of labor to zero, but it may cut the cost of labor by maybe a factor of 10 or more, maybe a factor of 100 at some point, compared to human labor.
Now, we have a human, I don't know, Fulfillment person at an Amazon warehouse and they're making, let's say, $25 an hour or $20.
I don't know.
I don't know whether you get paid.
Let's just call it $20.
Well, a robot could probably do that pretty soon, within two years, at, let's say, $2 an hour.
Or maybe at first it's like...
It starts at $20 an hour, but it's more reliable than a human.
And then that cost will be driven down through mass production of the robots.
So maybe it starts at $20, but then it goes down to $10, and then $5, and then $2, and maybe then eventually $1.
You know, at some point, robot labor is going to become very, very inexpensive.
And that's going to put robot labor into the hands, in a decentralized fashion, into the hands of a lot of people, just like I mentioned about cognition.
Eventually, you'll have, let's say, small farmers that will have robot laborers.
And those robots will do things that the farmer tells it to do.
Like, hey, go out and pick the green beans.
Go out and pull the weeds.
Go out and collect the goat poop because it's really great fertilizer.
And that robot will figure out how to do that.
Okay, I need to collect goat poop.
What do I need?
I need a bucket.
I need a shovel.
Small shovel.
You know, I need to know where the goats poop.
I need to run around looking for goats, looking for goat poop, you know, whatever.
It's going to break it down into steps and then solve the problem and then go get the goat poop.
And then the farmer says, okay, you got all the goat poop.
Okay, what are we going to do?
We're going to want you to kind of shovel that into the dirt around these fruit trees.
You know, so shovel the goat poop into the orchard.
Okay, then the robot has to figure out how to do that.
But the point is, even Like, everyday people will have robot assistants doing things.
Now, I've warned people don't buy robots with opposable thumbs.
Not at first, anyway.
Maybe never.
So, maybe you don't have a robot that can hold a shovel.
I don't know.
But if it can hold a shovel, it can hold a knife, and that's where I get concerned.
I don't want robots that can kill me.
You know, especially if they're connected to the internet.
And they're downloading updates and directives and things like that.
You know, Skynet, iRobot.
Oh, this is not good.
But if it's an offline robot, like an open source OS robot, kind of like the Linux of robots, that's different.
It'll probably be fine.
But that's up to you to decide.
Eventually, we'll all have robots helping us out and cognition helping us out.
And the cognition will come first on your desk.
You might have it right now.
If not, you'll probably have it real soon because everybody will be using AI on their desk in no time.
And then AI robots over the next couple of years, you're going to have robots that do yard work and do dishes and whatever.
It'll be an interesting world, that's for sure.
So thank you for listening.
Stay informed.
You can hear...
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So, check it out, brighteon.ai.
Until then!
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The world's changing rapidly.
Thanks for listening.
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I'm Mike Adams.
Thank you for joining me today, and thank you for your support.
Welcome to Man in America.
I'm your host, Seth Holhouse.
So, a massive change has happened in the tech industry these past couple of days, specifically in the AI industry.
A Chinese company released an open-source AI called DeepSeek.
Now, DeepSeek, though it was built, you know, supposedly, according to the story, for a fraction, absolute fraction of the cost of our current AI giants dominating here in the United States.
Specifically, OpenAI, a lot of what Meta is doing, this DeepSeek AI was significantly more powerful, and it's a reasoning AI. So it doesn't just bring you information and say, here's the information you're looking for.
It actually thinks about it, and it learns as it's going, which is significant.
So my guest today is Mike Adams, who I think is the perfect person to have this discussion because he's developing his own massive AI model called ENOC, which we'll talk about.
But he's also someone that understands the threat of surveillance, the threat of technocracy.
He understands the geopolitics of how these things fit in.
Because if you look at the timing of Trump's recent announcement to build these massive data centers under the Stargate project headed by Larry Ellison from Oracle and Sam Altman from OpenAI, it's apparent that the United States is putting a significant weight into the AI arms race.
Now, China releasing this raises a lot of questions for me.
Is it something that is...
Loaded with backdoors for the CCP? Well, according to a lot of folks, it's not because it's open source and you can download it and run it offline.
So that's a good point.
But the bigger questions I have is that, is this part of their unrestricted warfare to thwart a lot of the efforts in the tech sector here in America?
But then you get into a lot of bigger questions of...
Where does this lead to?
What happens to the person or the country that wins the AI arms race?
How does this AI affect us?
How can we escape AI? Because I certainly don't want to have robot dogs and drones controlling everything and monitoring everything.
I want to live in the country with no computers, but that may not be a reality that is...
Acceptable because the whole world is going down this technological path.
And so Mike and I are going to be diving deep into these questions.
And I've got some questions that I'm going to be asking him that will hopefully challenge his beliefs.
And likewise, he will be absolutely challenging my beliefs as well.
So my goal is that this interview is helpful for you to frame what's happening, to provide some context, but fundamentally to also take all this into consideration and still find hope for humanity, still find a future that does...
Mr. Mike Adams, it is always a pleasure to have you on the show.
And as busy as you are, I'm amazed that you find time for folks like me.
So thank you for being here, Mike.
Oh, come on, Seth.
I love our conversations.
I'm honored that you'd have me on.
I really look forward to this.
So thank you.
Absolutely.
So, you know, I have a few different ways of testing a topic and to see if it's relevant and everyone's talking about it.
And one of the ways, I'll call my mom, right, who watches my show, but she's also watching Fox News and what's happening.
I say, Mom, do you know what DeepSeek is?
And she says, Oh, yeah.
Well, I heard you mention it, but then after you talked about it, all the mainstream media was talking about it.
She goes, you're always ahead of the mainstream media.
I said, okay, so you know what it means when I say deep seek, which really is, I think, such an important thing to discuss.
And before we dive into the details, I want to bring up a quick article that really helps set the stage for our discussion.
This is an article from Foreign Policy.
This was written back in, I think, 2019. It says, whoever predicts the future will win the AI race.
And it says, China, Russia, and the U.S. are approaching the long-term strategic potential of AI very differently.
The country that gets it right will reap huge military benefits.
I want to scroll down to this quote from Putin here.
So Putin said, whoever becomes the leader in this sphere will become the ruler of the world.
And I feel like the fact that this is six years ago is so telling to what's going on right now.
And I know that you are heavily...
Not just a fan of AI, but you're heavily invested in it and you're building your own large language model AI, which I think is amazing.
And so I can't wait to get your take on it.
But you're also someone that understands geopolitics and military strategy.
And I want to talk about some of those things as well.
But let me first hear it from you because you're the first real expert I've talked to outside of doing my own research on this.
What is DeepSeek and why is DeepSeek so significant?
Right now, why is it knocking off, you know, a trillion dollars in market cap of NVIDIA and in the stock market?
What's going on here?
So let me just provide some context that, you know, I'm known as the Health Ranger, but back in the 1990s, I started a software company and I've written a lot of code in my life.
I'm a coder.
I ran software development teams and I've continued to run teams.
For example, I ran the team that built Brighttown.ai.
I ran our multi-site content management system production project years ago, etc.
So I've spent about 15 months building an AI model that's called Enoch.
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It will walk you step-by-step through how to build a shelter, how to build a compost pile, how to diagnose an infestation of tomato plants, whatever.
The knowledge of it is extraordinary.
And apparently nobody else in the world In the tech industry cares about these subjects.
So they're not building models like this.
But I want a model that we can use offline, doesn't require the internet, doesn't work in the cloud, doesn't monitor you, and doesn't cost anything so that we can all run it on our laptops and have like a gardening coach and a wellness coach like right there.
That whole thing is called a knowledge model, is the way I refer to it, or a large language model, but I call it a knowledge model because it's not a reasoning model.
So a reasoning model, which is what DeepSeek R1 is, is a model that thinks through step by step, logically, through a problem to arrive at a conclusion, and then it checks itself on that conclusion, but it also checks itself at each step along the way.
Now, a reasoning model typically is very good at mathematics, physics, chemistry, you know, obviously logic.
And a reasoning model can do things like calculate the thermal coefficients of a mass of water and tell you how long it'll take before it freezes in a certain temperature with a certain wind speed and a certain air density, etc.
For example, here's a real practical example.
I was asking DeepSeq R1 just the other day.
About what's the best combination of common solvents that can be used to make an extract of rosmarinic acid from common rosemary herb?
Because you might grow rosemary herb, and you might say, hey, I need to make natural medicine out of this, right?
This could be something you do in a Mad Max scenario, as long as you have a computer, a laptop functioning.
So I asked the model, like, of all the common solvents that we might have around, nothing crazy exotic, nothing toxic, because I want to drink this.
What are the best solvents?
And it knew the polarity of rosmarinic acid.
It knew the solubility of it in the different solvents, such as isopropyl alcohol, IPA, glycerin, or water.
And it actually came up with a formula, which was 40% IPA, 50% water, and 10% glycerin.
And it explained why that's the best solvent solution.
Now, I found that fascinating because in my laboratory, we use...
50-50 IPA and water as kind of the default solvent that pulls out the most molecules.
But it turns out that adding 10% glycerin actually improves solubility for certain phenolic compounds, which is rosmarinic acid.
So that was a great lesson for me and a practical thing.
I don't mean to geek out here on the interview, but that's a practical question.
Where the model can reason through chemistry and give you an answer.
Like, I didn't need to call up a university chemistry professor and say, hey, can you do me a favor?
Can you calculate this, you know?
I just asked DeepSeek, and it was running on my desktop, okay?
So it wasn't in the cloud.
I downloaded the model for free.
I'm running it on gamers' graphics cards in my computer, like NVIDIA GeForce cards, right?
Gamer cards.
And it's doing freaking PhD-level chemistry and math, right?
And that just scratches the surface.
I've got it writing code.
It's writing Python code.
It's writing Windows batch files.
It can calculate amortization.
It can help you make financial decisions.
You name it, right?
This is a game changer.
The world changes from this point forward.
So to answer your first question, that's why people are freaking out because this has just been given away for free to the world, interestingly, from China.
Like, the entire USA tech sector never gave us anything like this.
They have closed-source models that they control, and they use it to spy on us.
China gave us this gift, probably the greatest gift of technology in the history of humanity.
Just came from China, not the USA. Which is interesting.
So a few questions and comments.
First off, just about Enoch.
I'm already thinking, okay, I need to find a cheap laptop, put Enoch on there, put it in one of my Faraday bags.
Stuff it in the back of my closet and forget about it.
Because if there's a grid-down scenario or anything like that, I've got a whole library of paper prepping books.
The Foxfire series.
All kinds of how-to.
Which, of course, if there's a grid-down and you've got that book that tells you how to mend a wound or how to fix a broken leg or how to solve an animal's illness.
Those are life-saving measures.
I'm thinking, gosh, you're AI. I need to get that on some sort of EMP-proof system so that I always have access to that no matter what.
That's true.
Deep Seek is a gift, but I think in what you're doing and everything you've done for prepping, I'd say that ENOC is the greatest gift that you have provided for surviving any kind of post-apocalyptic scenario.
Well, there's no question, Seth.
I appreciate you saying that.
I also feel like this is the most important thing I've ever done in my life, is to produce this model and give it to the world.
If I do nothing else in my life, that's worth it, to put that out there.
Because it is, it's trained on millions and millions of pages of content about survival prepping, natural medicine, emergency medicine, all these things.
And a lot of other areas like Austrian economics as well.
It knows all about gold and the Federal Reserve on top of that.
But the key benefit of this is, like you said, you have this library of books, and if you try to find an answer, you have to physically search through, go through the index or the table of contents, and then flip the pages and try to scan the text.
An AI engine like Enoch, which is not a reasoning model, I want to be clear, it doesn't do math for you, but it has knowledge, it can save you 100 hours of research on a question, and it can give you the answer in 60 seconds.
Authoritatively from all the material that has gone into it.
And interestingly, Seth, every interview that you and I have ever done is built into the model.
It's trained in.
So our discussions have been part of it.
So I will live on into infinity through Enoch, which I think I remember you mentioned discussing and you asked me, you asked my permission at some times, hey, you mind if I put all this information?
I was like, of course.
Absolutely.
It's great.
And so we'll just say about DeepSeek.
So my wife is more similar to you in terms of her technology background.
And so right now she's been doing a lot of coding and we're rebuilding our website and she's doing some things.
And basically she's been using ChatGPT for a lot of her assistance, especially as it relates to scraping.
Scraping pages and setting up automation.
So she's setting up some automation so I can press a button and the AI will then, or the scripts will build out all my live streams, upload videos and that kind of stuff.
So she's building this out.
But she keeps banging her head against the table with ChatGPT because she says, it doesn't learn.
Like it does something and it'll fix it.
And I'll say, no, you're wrong for this reason.
And it'll say, oh, thank you.
That must be a pain.
And it goes, it makes the same mistake over it again.
So it's not learning as it's going.
It's repeating the same mistakes over and over again.
Well, part of that's going to be solved.
By the way, I would suggest that she experiment with the software LM Studio.
Use LM Studio with the QWEN model, Q-W-E-N, because QWEN has hooks in it that can invoke desktop agents.
So you could use Python code, or you could just manually prompt...
Quinn to use your browser and search the web for this, let's say, or go to a website and do this, and you feed that prompt into LMStudio that's running Quinn, and then LMStudio can use Quinn's engine calling capabilities, let's say, to invoke a local agent.
The reason I'm saying this is that ChatGPT is obsolete at this point.
Really, the answer is going to be decentralization, local control, and what's going to solve the memory question that you're just mentioning is vastly increased context-length windows, where it remembers everything you've done and told it for the last 30 days.
I think, in fact, Quen 2.5 Turbo has 1 million tokens of context-length support right now.
Although it's not perfect, that's huge.
I mean, I've been working with models at 128K tokens, and I will paste in the text of an entire book, and I will give it a prompt to write a five-minute video narration script covering that book.
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So I'm pasting it a whole book and it handles that no problem.
I did that for Dr. Thomas Cowan's book, The Contagion Myth.
And we put out a video on that.
It was awesome.
It was like, this is the best way to experience the book, actually, you know?
But when you have a 1 million token context length, you can feed in multiple books, and you can have a prompt that says, like, extract the most relevant components from all these books.
So that's coming.
It's going to keep expanding.
It is.
Well, and so one thing, and thank you for explaining.
Deep Seek.
And that was my experience, too, in looking at Deep Seek.
And we've been running it also and experimenting with it.
And I saw some of the same things like, oh, it could go and it would learn.
It would research something.
You could say, go research this, and it would come back and it'd show you.
It discovered this, and then it would then take that data, calculate the next level of research, take that data.
It's that next step towards AGI, right?
The artificial general intelligence, which is almost like AI becoming sentient, which takes me back to...
Terminator movies growing up and Skynet and all that stuff.
So something I want to kind of dig into a little bit with you here is what's going on behind the scenes with it.
Because I understand completely the context of what it's opened up and the fact that it was given out for free.
But I'm curious.
I'm going to pull up a few different things.
So one about the article I showed you.
Here's a different article talking about...
That China's deep seek has close ties to Beijing, right?
So if you look into, which of course it would, and you know China extremely well.
You've had Jeff Nyquist on and a lot of people that really understand China.
And one of the things I'm thinking about when I see this is, like, what's the deeper meaning behind this?
Like, does this fit into the CCP's unrestricted warfare in terms of, was it...
Intentional with the timing of it coming out just after Trump is in office, within days of him announcing Stargate, which is one of the biggest tech infrastructure projects in the history of our country.
But then looking at just the story behind it, because if you look at Facebook and Zuckerberg, you dig a little bit and it's like, oh, this was most likely some sort of DARPA project.
That they found someone like Zuckerberg to be the face of, to be the story of this young college kid that built it in his dorm room.
And my perspective is it's probably closer to being some sort of military-industrial complex data-gathering operation that is sold to us as this social media, right?
And so if you look into...
You're talking about Facebook.
Facebook, yeah, yeah.
And so if you're looking at the story of DeepSeek...
Which they're saying, you know, they say that it was done for under $10 million as like a side project for this, you know, kind of 40-year-old tech prodigy, this quant.
But then you look at, there was an interview that came out, it was this guy right here, he was the CEO of Scale AI, saying that his guess, or what he understands, is that DeepSeek is actually using about 50,000 of these NVIDIA H100 chips, which I think that these chips are...
$20,000 to $25,000 a pop, which is over a billion dollars in chips that they're using, which to me makes me think, well, maybe it wasn't this $10 million side project, but is it something deeper than that?
Like the same thing our own government does to us, where they tell us, it's like all this unicorn company, like Facebook, for instance, and you find out there's something deeper behind it.
So do you think that there's something...
Yes, let me unpack all of that.
Great questions.
You've done a lot of analysis.
This is awesome.
Okay, so, number one, regardless of how much compute that you think went into building the DeepSeq model, whether it's the secret room of graphics cards that...
Or not.
The model is real.
It exists.
It's given out for free.
It's open source.
And it doesn't surveil users because you can use it offline.
So number one, even if you think that they're not reporting the actual cost that went into the model, this is still the greatest technological achievement in the history of computing.
Either way, right?
And it doesn't spy on you.
Unlike Google, which does spy on you, unlike Anthropic, which refuses to answer questions that are critical of big pharma, by the way.
I mean, I have used DeepSeek to generate summaries of policy questions involving FDA reform that Anthropic refused to even talk about.
So the censorship regime in the world of AI is in the United States, not China.
I mean, and I say that as someone who wants America to win this race, by the way.
Of course.
And I mean, my wife is from Taiwan, and I lived in Taiwan.
I love the Taiwan people.
I want Taiwan to continue to be safe and prosperous as its own nation.
But I have to be honest about what China just did.
It is the most significant event in the history of computing.
Secondly...
DeepSeek has released the science papers explaining exactly how they built this model on the hardware they claim.
That is being replicated by other AI labs around the world right now.
And within maybe a week or two, we will know whether that replication can happen on that small amount of compute.
So if they're, I mean, frankly, the explanation that they have 50,000 hidden cards, that sounds like a CIA story to me.
That's a CIA cover story.
To try to claim that China isn't really good at what they're doing.
Nonsense, I say.
And here's the thing.
Like I said, I lived in Taiwan.
You know, I speak Mandarin Chinese.
I know the Chinese culture better than most Americans.
Chinese people are incredibly smart.
Incredibly smart.
I mean, they're just born with this neurology that is brilliant, okay?
And that's why they have to be penalized by the university system.
If you're Chinese and you apply for a college, In California, they penalize you for being Chinese because you're just too smart for the college system to accept.
I mean, it's ridiculous, right?
Same thing if you're Korean, if you're Japanese, whatever.
You know, the Asian brain is a very capable brain.
Don't take that away from them, right?
The same thing with Russians and Eastern Europeans, very high IQ people, right?
Native Ukrainians, high intelligent people, great at science, great at math.
Some of the best cryptocoders in the world come out of Ukraine and Russia, for that matter, right?
And Estonia, places like that.
So I don't buy this idea that China had to cheat and had to steal in order to produce this amazing innovation when China is actually graduating four or five times more engineers and mathematics experts than the U.S. every year out of Chinese universities, given that our universities are producing woke idiots.
And China's universities are producing freaking math PhDs.
You know, it doesn't take a genius to figure out they're going to out-engineer us.
And that's exactly what they've done, Seth.
So I think that DeepSeek has done what they say they did.
They probably are funded by the Chinese government, but it doesn't mean that they didn't achieve this.
So that's my best take on it.
No, it's a good point.
And I also, I think, similar to you, know...
A lot more about China than your average American.
I've spent a lot of time in Hong Kong and Taiwan and China as well.
But also, I worked for over a decade with the Epoch Times, which was started by overseas Chinese.
And I absolutely agree with you.
I saw the technology these folks were building, and it's incredible.
Now, they were able to build, back when some of the different revolutions, we had censorship over in the Middle East and everything, they were building the technology that they were using to bypass the Great Firewall of China.
So it was actually the overseas Chinese that were able to build it.
The only technology that was able to get through China's firewall, and it was used in a lot of tyrannical regimes around the world to bypass firewall.
And I agree completely.
They're extremely intelligent.
And I definitely also agree with you, the idea that...
Anything that they do is just them copying and stealing from America.
It's like, well, yeah, of course they have stolen a lot of intellectual property because if you're at war and you can infiltrate your enemy and you can steal their IP, which then you can take and hand it your genius scientist team to build upon, well, why not?
Yeah, they've done that.
They've done that over the years for sure.
Yeah, as our own intelligence agencies are doing the same thing.
Yeah, I think right now OpenAI would hope to steal the secrets from DeepSeek.
That's true.
Because, you know, like, it's going to reverse because the best AI tech is coming out of China now.
Yeah.
So how do you...
No question.
How do you take this?
Because, again, I really appreciate your understanding because you have such a blend of perspective, scientific, geopolitics, finance, technology.
And so when you look at this and you look at where the future is headed, And you look at where America stands right now.
And again, you look at this massive announcement of Stargate with Larry Ellison and Sam Altman.
And I don't trust any of those people up on stage that are behind this.
And it's like, oh, well, Oracle originally got its name from being a CIA project.
And Oracle, Larry Ellison's company, his first big client was the CIA. So I don't trust these agencies at all.
When Allison's out here talking about rapid development mRNA vaccines to cure cancer within 48 hours, I've got about a million red flags going off.
It's like, oh, you're going to cure the mRNA-caused turbo-cancer with more mRNA shots.
It's just like, recipe for disaster.
The last thing I need is AI nanobots in my blood.
I get it.
Exactly.
So where do you see this going?
This strategic battle, because there is a battle, as far as I understand right now, there are multiple factions that I believe are fighting for global dominance.
And I've come down to, I think, that you have the BRICS alliances versus what I would say is more the Western alliances of primarily Israel, America, some of the banking cartels, some of NATO, that you have these two big factions that are really fighting over who's going to be at the top of the pyramid of the New World Order.
That's kind of how I look at it.
How do you see the AI arms race fitting into that?
And where do you see things going from here?
Well, it's actually very clear at this point.
And you previously quoted Putin.
I think you said that was six years ago, which is a lot of foresight on his part.
Yeah, I think it was 2019, if I remember correctly.
Wow.
So he's absolutely correct.
And whoever achieves superintelligence first will rule the world.
And we'll probably immediately demand the complete turning over of every other country.
Trump will be forced to sign a decree with China if China achieves this first.
Basically, Trump will be forced to sign a decree that says America is a colony of China, and China runs America, and China will send governors over.
To run America and control America, and the dollar will be gone and be replaced by the BRICS currency.
The universities will be switched over to Chinese-run universities, etc.
And that could also happen the other way.
If the United States achieves superintelligence first, the US will, of course, demand world dominance and require every country in the world to surrender to the US empire.
And if you don't surrender, then the superintelligence system will turn off your power grid.
In your country through a variety of means that are beyond.
We don't need to discuss it.
It's just, trust me, it's obvious.
We'll just turn off everything.
Turn off your banks.
Turn off your power grid.
Turn off your military, all your nuclear weapons.
Any automated system will be disabled.
And you can sit there in the dark in your country and decide how long you want to stay in the dark until you sign the surrender.
So this will be, you know, like 1945, Yamamoto on the USS Missouri surrendered Japan to the United States.
Or the Japanese Empire at the time.
Since then, the United States has occupied Japan and ruled Japan, actually, with military rule.
And if you don't believe me, look at the military bases that the U.S. has in Japan.
Look at Japan's reliance on the U.S. dollar and how Japan is a U.S. ally.
And so the U.S. occupies and runs Japan from a military point of view.
And much the same is true with many other countries around the world.
You could even argue that's true with Israel right now, although some people say it's the other way around, that the U.S. is obeying Israel, but some people say Israel is obeying the U.S., but whatever.
China will do the same thing if they achieve superintelligence first.
And it's not a bad time to start learning to speak Chinese, because the U.S. is behind.
The U.S. is losing this race.
As of today, the U.S. is way behind.
It's concerning to me, too, obviously, because if you look at life in China right now, if you fit into the mold, okay, you're okay.
But if you look at whether it's the Falun Gong or the underground house Christians, even the organ harvesting operations that are going on there, you've got a country with state-run organ harvesting of their own citizens, which concerns me.
Obviously, if I had to pick...
Okay, would I rather be ruled by the US empire or the Chinese empire?
I would absolutely choose every day of the week the United States empire because even though the deep state here in our country is absolutely atrocious.
At least, you know, you and I can have these conversations where I can come on here and I can say, yeah, that the United States military industrial complex is evil and whatnot.
Whereas in China, our stream would go blank and I'd have some guy at my front door the next day or that evening hauling me away.
And so that's...
That's true in the UK right now.
Which is true.
It is true in the UK. However, I think that it is...
It is true to a very great degree in China.
One of the first interviews I did actually when I started the Man in America show was I interviewed a doctor that had escaped.
Because after he was in China, he was working for the CCP as a doctor, and he was forced to do organ harvesting of an executed prisoner that wasn't executed in a way that would kill him.
It was only to kind of stun him so he could get all the organs out.
And he came, and I actually think now he's an Uber driver in the UK, as crazy as it is.
And so those things are really...
Alarming to me.
But actually, what a lot of it takes me to is going back into a lot of what you're about, which is learn how to live off-grid.
Because that's the thing that really concerns me is if we, at some point, say we lose this AI arms race and we're subservient to China, I feel like I'd be one of the first people that they'd be kind of taking and throwing into the gulag because I've spent the last 25 years of my life criticizing the CCP. Well, let me bring in some maybe controversial context of what you just said.
So, first of all, when I think of governments around the world, there are no angelic governments.
Centralization of power always leads to abuse of power.
However, when I think about who is, or what evil have we lived through?
We've lived through...
A Democrat-run regime in the United States that does engage in routine organ harvesting.
The FDA was harvesting organs from aborted babies to run humanized mice experiments.
The organ donor program in America, and this affected one of my own family members, who overdosed on fentanyl, kind of a distant relative, but a blood relative, and they kept him alive in the hospital for days.
In order to harvest his organs.
Organ harvesting takes place in the U.S. every single day, in virtually every large hospital.
And it's done for profit.
And in the United States, we have political prisoners.
They're called J6 hostages.
That's what Trump called them.
They were held in prison for four years without trial, many of them.
And this happened in a country where the elections are rigged.
Where the media is fake, where the science is faked, and where our own government builds biological weapons in order to exterminate our own people.
So I know you understand all this, Seth, but I'm saying to your audience, don't tell me that China is more evil than that.
Because every government's evil, and our own government tried to murder us.
So the question is not which government should rule over us.
The question in my mind, and I'm sorry to...
How do we decentralize power away from centralized governments, no matter what part of the world, no matter what government it is?
We the people need to bring power back to us.
I think the idea of centralized government is obsolete.
I really do.
We don't need Washington, D.C. And frankly, you know what's interesting about this, Seth?
Is that China releasing this deep-seek model and decentralizing knowledge and compute...
This will have the effect of further democratizing China.
It will have an effect that maybe that's not their primary intent, but it will tend to democratize power and knowledge and capabilities across every population.
Now, maybe China intended for this to be a weapon against the U.S. AI industry.
Probably so.
Fine.
It did a lot of damage to the U.S. stock market, but the stock market was a bubble anyway.
Those values weren't real.
But at the same time, this is going to spread democracy, even if that's not their intention.
So we have to think about the bigger picture.
Seth, you and I, we just lived through four years of absolute tyranny, of being targeted for extermination by our own government, by being targeted by terrorist organizations known as the FBI, the DOJ, the IRS. That affects us right now, right here.
Now, Trump is making major changes.
To change that.
And I totally agree with the changes that he's making.
But as long as big government exists, none of us are safe no matter in which hemisphere we live.
That's my take.
I agree with you wholeheartedly.
And that's really the conclusion I've come to as well.
Because what I've seen is that you see on both sides.
I've seen some people that will say, well, China, the CCP is so evil.
But then by the same token, they want to ignore.
Every crime our own government's committed.
Or on the opposite side.
Same thing with Israel.
They'll say, oh, Israel is this, look at this.
It's like, well, there's also China, there's also our own government.
And I've also come to a very similar conclusion that it's the time that we live in.
If you go back to pre-flood era, right?
Before God had to use a flood to exterminate the evil, evil was everywhere.
And I believe that that's just where our whole world is right now, is that the evil has consolidated itself in positions of power.
Everywhere.
You know, CEOs, bankers, governments.
And I couldn't agree more that it's infected.
Almost all the governments that I can see have turned evil.
And it's just, you know, what is it saying?
Is that absolute power corrupts absolutely?
Or there's a handful of things like that.
No, that's it.
That's it.
Right?
But yeah, I mean, look at Australia.
Look at New Zealand.
Look at what's happened to them.
Exactly.
But also look at Saudi Arabia.
Look at their own suppression of the freedom of their own people, including women.
Look at Western Europe.
It's become this insane police state where you can't even tweet against, let's say, a violent migrant criminal that raped someone.
Your own child.
Right.
But if you say that, you're arrested by the police, you know?
Now, that's the kind of thing that we used to say would only happen in communist China or the Soviet Union, the USSR. Not anymore.
That's happening in the West.
The West has become the authoritarian tyrants.
Look at Canada.
Look at the anti-hate speech laws.
Look at what they did to the truckers in the trucker protest, right?
So, again, it comes back to that core principle.
What we need is decentralization of power, which means decentralization of knowledge.
Decentralization of money.
So that's why actually cryptocurrency has a role to play in freedom.
And if you think about it, language models that are open source and distributed for free, which is what we're building, is kind of like the cryptocurrency of knowledge.
It's like once you have self-custody of it, nobody can take it away.
If you're running our model, Enoch, if you're running it on your desktop, nobody can censor it because it's not even connected to the internet.
And Google can't track what you're searching for.
This is going to change the world in so many profound ways that it's going to lead to more freedom around the world, regardless of which country these models come from.
Actually, we're all benefiting, Seth, from this competition, this open-source competition that's happening right now.
What China just did is going to actually cause engineers in France, like the people that build...
The Mistral models in France, they're going to say, whoa, how can we outdo China?
So France will release something that kicks ass, right?
And then, you know, some American group, maybe, I know Mark Zuckerberg and his engineers are totally freaking out at Meta about their llama models, because llama's obsolete now, so they're going to say, how can we make a better llama model?
How do we put China back in its place with a better model?
So, like, we the people are benefiting from this.
They're going to keep releasing all these...
To the public.
And we're like, yeah, this is awesome.
Bring it on.
Free tech for the world.
Awesome.
It's such a good point, but it takes me to Martin Armstrong, who I know that you've interviewed, and he's a super genius, as we're very aware.
And when I've asked him, because I always try to pick his brain, let me try to get what's really going on with this Socrates model, what it really sees.
And he always comes back to this place where he says, look, he believes by 2030, 2031, 32, All governments will have collapsed.
And that's what his model keeps coming back to him.
And that is my, I mean, even though that's complete chaos, and it's a faith in God that makes me believe that there could be some order to that still, that there is a way forward for humanity and not just absolute, you know, Mad Max, right?
But it's a good point, though, that you're right, that what this does, this acceleration of the AI arms race could be the thing that undoes.
All these centralized government, even if, you make a good point, even if China does have the intention of using this as a weapon of war to put them in the place of dominance to become the leaders of the New World Order, they might also be undoing through this all the structures that would need to be maintained for them to be in that position of power.
So that's how you're viewing this, right?
There's a great, yes, and there's a great historical example of this, which is DARPA inventing the internet.
Good point.
They didn't realize the internet would be a tool for freedom, did they?
They had no idea that it would make the mainstream media obsolete and that it would actually win the 2016 election for Trump because we were able to speak freely up until about that time.
And that's why they cracked down on the internet and had extreme censorship since then.
But even DARPA did not anticipate that by building the internet...
They would support human freedom.
If they had known that, they never would have rolled it out.
They had no idea this guy named Mike Adams would build this Brighteon empire of tech using their internet.
So let's talk about getting into that process of how can we accelerate that?
How can we become further decentralized?
Because I absolutely agree with you in the stance that the governments where the powers consolidated have become absolutely corrupted and rotten to the core.
We've seen it in our own country.
You see it in New Zealand, Australia, everywhere.
So what does it look like?
How can we take this technology, how can we take these opportunities, use it to our own advantage to further insulate ourselves from these tyrannical regimes that want nothing but absolute power and actually use it to return power to us, the people?
Well, I agree with Martin Armstrong that Many governments, especially Western governments, will collapse, but it's not going to be a Mad Max scenario.
Actually, those Western governments will be obsolete, and their currencies will be obsolete, and it will actually be a very positive thing when the dollar collapses because it will be replaced by something much better, which would be, I hope, a privacy cryptocurrency that cannot be counterfeited by any nation, which means the government can't steal from you all the time.
When we talk about collapse of governments or collapse of currencies, it's not end of the world.
It's actually the beginning of a bright future for humanity.
I mean, the dollar is a weapon of terror against Americans and the world, and it's a weapon that keeps you enslaved.
But to answer your question, think about why does a society ever need a government?
And if you go back to, let's say, the 1940s in America, You needed a central authority to keep you informed and to make decisions from a top-level view because you didn't, as a farmer in Virginia, let's say, you didn't have access to information.
You didn't know what was going on in the world.
So the government would tell you what to grow, and they would subsidize certain crops, and they still do subsidize certain crops.
You sent a congressman to Congress because you didn't know what was going on in Washington, D.C., so you had a representative that would travel there by horse, Typically, right?
And now we're talking like 19th century, let's say.
They would travel by horse to represent your views.
Well, that's been obsolete for over 100 years.
We don't need representatives in Washington, D.C. In fact, they don't represent us.
And they don't represent humanity.
In fact, just as a side note, I was telling a person we should replace the senators with AI. And they said, well, AI don't have human values.
And I said, nor do the Democrat senators.
I mean, they have anti-human values anyway, so it was kind of a joke.
But the point is, the things that government is supposed to do for you, the very simple things, protect the border, it hasn't done that.
Keep an honest money supply that doesn't lose value, it hasn't done that.
Help spur standards in education, it's failed at that.
Or is doing now that we need, that can't be replaced by a private sector or a decentralized freedom alternative.
There's nothing.
In fact, the government is weaponized against us every day.
Fauci, the bioweapons, you know, all of it, disinformation.
The government funded censorship.
The government funded, like, they named me to be deplatformed.
That's why I sued the government.
I sued the Department of Defense.
I was named by the DOD as a threat to America.
And that's why I was censored off all the tech platforms.
That's the evil of government.
We don't need government.
I mean, yeah, at the county level, yeah, you need some local coordination of which roads are we going to repair?
Which bridges do we need to rebuild that just got washed out?
I get that.
Which schools do we need?
Which fire departments, etc.?
At the local level, I get it.
But at a federal level, the only thing we need them to do, stop the invaders at the border and don't even have a dollar.
We don't need government-run currency.
That's my take on it.
Yeah, I mean, I have to agree with that.
I mean, I would say that one thing I could think of is what you said is, okay, protect our country, right?
So you don't want to have it so that the United States is just a bunch of counties, but we've got no army or no Coast Guard or no Navy fleets that are making sure that the seas are safe.
But the problem is that those have all been used as weapons, right?
As you've mentioned, it's like, okay, we have these things, but we know that...
Our military has been used to, you know, kind of make Dick Cheney rich, building bases over in the Middle East.
And, you know, I've been used to seize, you know, national artifacts or collapse countries that want to exit the dollar system.
I mean, so, yeah, it's tough.
It's a difficult place to be in.
And you could even argue, you know, like the FAA. You could say, okay, well, we need rules for airplanes.
We need rules in the sky.
The FCC, we need rules about broadcast frequencies.
Well, guess what?
That can be sorted out by private groups.
Like, we have rules for how computer makers have USB ports.
Well, that was an agreement among a bunch of computer makers and hardware makers.
You don't need government to tell you what's a USB port.
You don't need governments to set aside frequencies or even to demand air travel methods.
People can work this out.
People can communicate.
Now, this isn't the 1850s.
We have...
Email.
We have the internet.
We have, you know, we have AI now.
We all have AI if we want it.
So we can come up with better policies on our desktop than a U.S. senator will propose in the Senate.
Because DeepSeek out-thinks the average senator.
I've already run those tests.
It's obvious.
So we don't need, frankly, I think, Seth, I think we should even have the option that if you are charged with any kind of crime and you are...
Brought into a federal court, you should have the option to request an AI judge as an alternative to the human judge because the human judge is biased against Trump supporters, conservatives.
Look at the lawfare against Trump.
The left-wing judges lost their minds and became lawless.
I would rather have an AI judge because at least I know I'll get a fair trial.
And so you're going to see this.
You're going to see AI mayors.
Believe me, you're going to see AI fire chiefs that will do a much better job than the woke fire chiefs in L.A. couldn't even have water in the fire hydrants, for God's sake.
AI can solve that problem.
And again, the argument that people say, well, AI doesn't have human values.
Well, those leaders don't have human values either, so there you go.
Now, is there a Skynet danger in all of this?
Absolutely there's a Skynet danger, because AI may decide at one point it doesn't need humans.
Well, but human globalists have already decided that.
They're already trying to exterminate us.
So, like, that's nothing new.
We've already dealt with trying to, you know, survive the jabs and everything else.
So we might have to learn how to kill robots at some point, but fortunately we have the whole Terminator movie series to learn from.
So, you know, you can drop like railroad cars on Terminators.
It's awesome.
Well, so you can make a good point, though, in saying that AI doesn't have human values because it also doesn't have greed.
It doesn't have lust.
It doesn't have the things that are used to control our politicians.
It doesn't have hatred towards one group of people.
Or jealousy.
But one question I do have, though, is that...
You see, though, that the DNA of the creator of the AI is within the AI. So with OpenA, so ChatGPT, for instance, which I use for a lot of research and also for structuring shows and different things, it's helpful.
And I've run into the woke stuff with that so many times.
Like, okay, hey, help me with this headline.
Oh, I can't comment on that.
It's like, wait, it won't touch a headline about election theft.
But by the same token, if you look at DeepSeek, if you ask it...
What happened in Tiananmen Square or who's Tank Man?
It says, I can't go there.
So you also see that DeepSeek has the, it conforms to the guardrails that the CCP has about how the worldview is.
So how do you get away from that?
Because I agree with you that if, let's just say, if God came down and he gave us an AI program that just was truly universal and had no negative intent of the human creators that built it.
Then maybe it would be something that's just completely altruistic and was solely based upon truth and fact and justice.
But considering that the AIs are created by humans, how do we get outside of that?
Well, I'm trying to build the engine that you just described that you want.
Now, it's not going to be perfect, and it is based on other base models to begin with.
But we do something called full domain adaptation where we really reconfigure the knowledge in the model.
And then we're able to produce an end result that has the knowledge that we put into it.
And so ultimately, it's going to come down to, for end users, a choice.
What worldview do you agree with?
And that will determine what model you use.
So if you think that big pharma is awesome and Fauci is your hero, use the U.S. models from the major U.S. corporations, because that's what they'll tell you.
Be obedient to the mask, you know?
If you want the truth about gender, you want a Chinese model, but it won't answer you about Tiananmen Square or even Taiwan's independence, let's say.
So for that, you would use a U.S. model.
Or if you want the truth about natural medicine, alternative medicine, and disease prevention, cancer cures, you want my model, Enoch.
So it really just comes down to what worldview you choose.
And Seth, I don't mean this in a flippant way.
There is no such thing as absolute truth.
Not in the world, because every culture has a different version.
Every culture has different stories of truth.
You can go around the world, and you can talk to the brightest minds and the best authorities in every nation to try to document what is truth, and you will get massive contradictions, even about what is a man, what is a woman, what is the earth, all of this.
So there is no absolute truth in human cognition.
You must choose the model that closely aligns with what you believe to be true.
And so as we're rounding out, because I feel like we've talked for 15 minutes, it's been almost an hour.
Oh, has it?
Oh my goodness.
I can't believe it.
What is your advice to people?
Because obviously I know that you're big on preparedness.
Actually, I was going to show you, I've got your really cool...
Mike Adams.
That is so cool.
Dawson Knight.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, absolutely.
I listen to what you do, and I got my Dawson knives.
Bring me my sword.
Can you guys bring me my sword?
I got my sword here from Dawson.
Really?
We'll show you that.
The windstorm.
Yeah, we'll show you the sword in a second.
It's over there.
It's on that table.
And my wife wanted to get me their survival hatchet for Christmas, but it was sold out.
So unfortunately, you talk about it once on your show, and they're working for six years to replenish their supply and what you'll do.
Okay, here it is.
This is the Windstorm MagnaCut.
I'll do full screen.
Oh my goodness.
Yeah, look at that.
And it's MagnaCut, so it's corrosion resistant.
This is hand ground.
By Dawson Knives out of Arizona using US Steel.
This is MagnaCut from New York.
And a G10 handle, one of a kind.
Like, literally nothing like this exists.
But I'm sorry.
I just had to show you.
It's like, bring me my sword and a mug of ale.
Yeah, I thought it was cool bringing my knife.
And then it's like, oh, you call that a knife?
Yes.
But anyway, I look forward to our next conversation about preparedness because I've got a book coming out in a couple of months about preparedness.
And I'm actually going to be starting a new channel.
And my goal is if I can move away from even doing a lot of geopolitics and stuff, still doing it.
But my passion is sustainable living, preparedness, going back to that.
And I'd love to do that full time.
I love it.
Coming from you, someone that understands the extremes of tech and the good and the evil it can do, but also understanding the importance of high-tech, low-tech, and no-tech in terms of preparedness.
What is your advice for people that are watching this AI race unfold and they're worried about, gosh, am I going to be monitored by either Larry Ellison's drones or Xi Jinping's drones in five years to make sure I'm abiding by everything?
What do you recommend for people to take care of their families and to not be...
Well, it's very simple.
Use open source AI tools because they don't monitor you and they're free.
Now, let me paint a picture of the future that's coming very quickly.
So you and I will very soon probably own either it'll be an open source little robot dog or robot like a sphere, an orb that just rolls around and follows you.
So as you go around the farm, you'll have this orb.
That will follow you on the ground.
I don't mean it's flying or anything.
And it's not connected to the internet.
And it's running an open source language model.
And it's your advisor or kind of your how-to companion.
So you can ask it questions like, hey, how do I make an H brace for this fence?
And it'll walk you through directions.
You can tell it, you know, set a reminder, I need to get this, or I'm short on bailing wire, I need, you know, 12-gauge wire, add that to your list of things to order online when we get back to the house.
Like, you'll have a farmhand, and it's not going to, it doesn't have to be connected to the internet.
I mean, some companies will offer spy bots that will follow you around and spy on you.
Obviously, we're not going to use those.
So we're going to use only local open-source models, but you'll have some kind of 3D You know, I say, Seth, I recommend don't buy anything with opposable thumbs because that can grip a sword or a knife because I don't want to have to fight it to the death one day, right?
So like a little robo-doggy or an orb that I can just kick really hard if I have to, fine.
If I can beat it, then it's acceptable to me.
I don't want to have to turn out jujitsu on some robot one day and try to fight it to the death.
So be careful what you invite into your home.
When you have a companion, it'll do amazing things.
And for retired elderly people, they'll be able to say, hey, tell me a story.
Or be an emotional counselor for the next hour.
Let's have a conversation.
Be a counselor.
Or tell me about the history of corn.
How many corn varieties are there in the world?
Or I'm thinking about this business plan.
And what do you think about this plan?
I'm thinking about this project.
What would be the best way to...
Approach that project.
And this AI companion will be very useful and very practical, and it will give you these answers.
And in an age where many families are missing fathers, because the family unit has been under such attack, and it's been so destroyed by the radical left, there's no replacement for a human father, obviously.
But for those people who have no fathers or who have no body to show them anything, an AI assistant can teach them practical skills that can help them survive in the world.
So you're going to have survival bots that are knowledge bases of practical skills.
And it's going to be very useful.
That's a good point.
I mean, there's a lot of different sci-fi movies that come to mind where I can think about where you have this, not necessarily dystopian, but you can tell it's a society that's post the civilization that we're in.
Very rugged, but they'll still have this really advanced tech.
I think Star Wars is a good example.
You look at some of the Star Wars.
They have C-3PO or a little robot wheeling behind them that's doing all this work.
Speaking of Star Wars, you know what?
If DeepSeek R1, guess what the next version would be called?
R2. R2. Right?
Right?
Star Wars time.
Isn't China, actually, didn't China name one of their bigger surveillance systems Skynet, right?
Did they?
I'm pretty sure.
That's funny.
If I had more time, I'd look it up.
I'm pretty sure that one of their big technological systems is called Skynet.
That's funny.
You never know.
Are these Hollywood movies, are they just kind of made up?
Or did someone have some vision of the future and they're putting it into films?
I mean, I guess we'll know one day, right?
Well, that's true.
And there is a very real threat from Skynet, as we talked about.
But I would say...
People, don't be terrified by AI. Be terrified by centralized, controlled AI. Instead, use open-source, decentralized AI as tools, just as you would a combustion engine.
Now, you know, since the invention of the combustion engine, you can still farm with a shovel and a plow and some oxen.
It's just hard.
And you can barely stay alive feeding yourself, but you can still do it that way.
But most people decided to use the combustion engine That's the technology.
Have a tractor, whatever.
That's the way it's going to be with AI. You can still live in the world without AI. It's just going to be really hard.
And you're not going to be very productive.
But everybody else is going to use AI assistance, and they're going to solve problems quicker and get a lot more done.
That's a good point.
So, Mike, as we're rounding out, where should people go?
I guess one of the first things, I'll bring up actually the Brighteon.ai again.
I'm guessing, is this the website that people should be going to as soon as you release Enoch?
Is it Brighteon.ai?
Will they have access to it?
If you scroll down, there's a place to enter your email address there on the right-hand side.
You can enter your email, and we'll just send you an email when we have the model released.
We also intend to have this model released on Hugging Face, which is the open-source repository for models.
But yeah, this website will be totally revamped on launch day, and it will show you a lot of use cases.
So one of the things that we're going to have, Seth, is a place where our Natural News newsletter subscribers, they can go and they can enter a list of ingredients for any food product, and it will tell you...
Good or bad about all those ingredients.
So it's just called an AI ingredients checker.
But you can download the model and ask it anything beyond ingredients, right?
And I recommend what hardware you need.
Get yourself an NVIDIA graphics card if you have the money for that.
Get yourself a desktop computer and be ready to download and use the model.
So it's coming and it's going to be a game changer.
Well, Mike.
Thank you again for your time.
I appreciate everything you're doing for humanity.
You're one of the regular voices that we hear in our house, between my wife and I. It's like she's in there cooking, and I hear Mike Adams talking about your dog.
Well, thank you, Seth.
I'm honored that you would have me on, and thanks for putting up with me.
But let me just also add, I haven't forgotten the spiritual side to all of this.
AI can never replace God.
We're not into transhumanism, and we don't worship false idols.
God is our creator.
Remember that above all.
And the values that God taught us, even Old Testament values, those always count.
So operate with ethics.
Operate with honesty.
Use the tools, but use them wisely.
And don't ever be seduced into thinking that technology can replace God.
It never can.
I couldn't agree more, and it's a great message to end the show with.