Decentalize TV interview with Tom Montalk about Role of AI and Technology in Preparedness
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Welcome to Decentralized TV here on Brighttown.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.
And as you know, this show, every show, is all about empowering you with knowledge and tools for decentralization so that you can take control back from those centralized surveillance state and the tyrants and the authoritarians that want to enslave you.
So decentralization is the answer to that.
And that's why this show now, with my co-host Todd Pitner, has been such a success.
And welcome, Todd, to the show today.
It's always great to have you back on.
It's a new year.
Great to be here, Mike.
And I think you, I know you have a better memory than me.
Help me.
Because, gosh, I think it's been...
An entire year since we last did a show together, Mike, right?
Back in 2024. Anyway, Happy New Year, and with all my heart, I offer a prayer, and I mean it with all my heart, Mike.
I ask God to put a hedge of protection around you in 2025 because, man, oh man, you are over the target, and we are all better people.
For the fact that you put yourself out there on the front line.
So thank you, Mike.
Well, thank you, Todd.
That's very heartwarming to hear that from you.
Look, I do not hold any fear moving into 2025. I'm actually really excited about the future that we are facing.
And I'm not blind to the risks and the problems and the weaponization of the weather, geoengineering, all this stuff, right?
I mean, we've talked about a lot of that stuff.
But, and our guest today, We're going to bring him in in a second.
Our guest today is also really well informed on this.
We now have opportunities and a pivot point for human history that most people lived entire lifetimes and never got to experience the moment and the opportunity where we are right now.
It's extraordinary.
You know, I was thinking over the holidays...
Back to 2020. And didn't it feel like in 2020 there was a literal opening of some sort spiritually to where evil marched in and just kind of laid its claim?
That 2020, 2021, that whole time frame was so crazy.
And I feel so differently about 2025. I'm energized, man.
I just really think...
It's out with the evil, in with the good, beautiful, and true, Mike.
Absolutely.
And this is not just about politics or elections.
I'm talking about a massive spiritual awakening, a great red-pilling that's happening.
And I think that's a good segue to bring in our guest right away because he's got such knowledge in this.
It's Tom Montauk.
The website is montauk.net.
I've got it up here.
M-O-N-T-A-L-K, montauk.net.
And he is wildly popular among people who want to know what's going on in the world and beyond this world.
So welcome!
A returning guest!
We love returning guests, Tom.
This is our, I believe, our second interview with you here.
Welcome to the show today.
Yeah, I'm glad to be back for a second round.
Well, we're happy to have you back.
Thank you for the time.
And Todd, I know you've got, I actually showed the link that you requested here, the Survival and Emergency Preparedness, but where do you want to begin with our guest today, Tom?
I mean, Todd, excuse me, Todd and Tom.
Whatever you want to call me.
We got a couple of Ts.
Yeah, T-O-D-D, Todd.
Well, I just want everybody to know through the rest of this show, we're going to be talking about preparedness, paranormal entities, the control system that's out there, aliens, elites, solutions.
You all know we are dedicated to decentralized living, but most importantly, Offering solutions to the centralized Druid Babylonian Bastard control grids that are out there.
And so, Tom, welcome to the show.
First of all, I'd like to congratulate you on hitting a 3,000 subscriber milestone on your Telegram group, which is named everyone.
It's Montauk-TranscendingThe...
Dot, dot, dot.
I love that title.
It's like, you are the man of the dot, dot, dots, man, because you're like a box of chocolates.
You just don't know what you're going to get when you go into Telegram and start reading.
But anyway, everyone, Tom's Telegram is a must-subscribe channel, in my opinion.
And within your channel, Tom, there's a specific post titled, Survival in Emergency Preparedness, I believe everybody should read, like yesterday, if not sooner.
And I suggest that you make it a pinned message, actually, in your Telegram group.
I don't see a lot of pinned messages, but that's one that would be a must.
But anyway, I know you've been compiling these notes on preparedness for years.
Can you tell us why?
And provide some key highlights of your preparedness.
And Mike, I think I sent you a link that you might be...
I've got it right here, yeah.
We'll show it.
Yeah, so I remember back before 2020, before COVID, when even just talking about the idea of prepping and survivalism, I mean, a lot of people were kind of skeptical about it because up to that point, what has the modern generation even faced?
Not too much, right?
But then once COVID came around, it seems like...
Pretty much everyone and their grandma and their aunt were starting to go down that prepper route, starting with the toilet paper shortage and the various sorts of mass panics and mass runs and the supply chain shortages.
So that sort of introduced people to the idea that, hey, our modern system isn't as stable or as reliable as you think it is.
And so, luckily, after that point, it was a lot easier for me to push this article around.
Because at that point, they had the personal experience to realize that, yes, this stuff doesn't matter.
And I do want to preface it by saying that prior to this point as well, there's a lot of disinformation within both Christianity, the New Age field, and just general thinking with normalcy bias that...
It's not really necessary to prepare because, as we know, the idea that God takes care of all things or the universe provides or I can manifest whatever I need to.
Or the rapture.
The rapture is going to take us out and we don't take us away and we don't have to prepare.
I've heard that from a lot of Christians.
Yeah, yeah.
And so here's the problem with that.
The problem is that they have personal experience that the divine can intervene in our lives and that...
There is, like, magic that can help us out, whether we do it through our own subconscious intentions or whether through prayer and having higher forces help us.
However, we also know that they can only go so far and that we have to meet them halfway.
And that's the issue.
The issue is that not everything is covered.
So, for example, for those of you who believe that the higher stuff takes care of everything, I mean, do you still put on your seatbelt when you drive?
Do you still lock your door at night?
Do you still...
Keep a fire extinguisher somewhere on the premises in case there's a fire.
Do you still have a phone when you go out in case you have to dial 911?
And the answer, of course, is yes.
And why is that?
Well, it's because despite all the help, all the synchronicities, all the prayers being answered, there is still this remnant of the unknown, of the physical, of the deterministic that affects us.
So we, as physical beings, and spiritual beings, but as physical beings as well, We have to take care of the physical level because we have a foot in this world.
We have a foot within the physical.
And so, you know, just as you need good nutrition and sleep and shelter and warmth, well, if you keep extending that, that also goes into stocking up on food, stocking up on essential items, even on self-defense items, knowledge in that category, networking with others who might be in your support group.
A lunatic fringe thing.
I mean, I'm preaching to the choir.
You guys all know, and I'm sure everyone watching knows.
I'm just saying that for the people that you know, your extended family, your neighbors, your coworkers, a lot of them are still asleep even after these past four years.
Tom, let me just interject.
I won't take long, but look, we're dealing with crazy storms that hit North Carolina.
We're dealing with crazy fires in California.
If people don't understand that preparedness is critical, you're...
You're a zombie or something.
I don't know.
But it's no longer even a question.
I mean, preparedness is not a fringe activity.
It's a basic survival need.
So go ahead.
But you know what?
You know what?
If I may insert, I was listening to some people at the grocery store today talking about the fires.
Yeah?
Their mind, their NPC minds just go to this global warming, this climate change.
Literally, they're blaming it all on that.
And I wanted to stop and say, you mean the manufactured climate change at times?
Or the arsonists?
So the arsonists?
Is the name of the arsonist climate change?
Is it Mr. Change?
First name climate?
He's the guy who set the fires?
Exactly.
Exactly.
It's crazy.
Yes.
So, sorry for interrupting.
Sorry.
No, it is crazy.
It is crazy.
The normalcy bias, the programmed NPC mentality.
I mean, the NPC mentality is what got people killed by taking the jabs.
Totally.
Plain and simple, right?
Totally.
So, I mean, I don't want to say, oh, that's Darwinianism, like survival of the fittest and the smartest, but hey, the gene pool has changed over the past couple of years because certain people trusted authority a bit too much.
Not just with COVID, but also in Hawaii, right?
Remember those people that obeyed the authorities and stayed on the road?
That's right.
They died.
So, what is the lesson there?
The lesson is, think for yourself, trust in your higher power, but also think for yourself, and do not trust authority.
That's right.
Let's talk about your list, Mike.
I don't know if you can bring up his, that ink.
Just because I want to direct people there, if you go to Montauk, TranscendingThe...on Telegram, or if you go to Montauk.net, you'll be able to find this.
But I went through it, and it's just really a great list.
And my goodness, if you don't have a direct link to Mike's website for preparedness materials, you should add it because, oh my goodness.
That's where you'll find it all, really.
Yes.
So that particular article, I have been compiling it since 2010 at least.
And it's something that I edit on the regular because as I grow my knowledge and learn from mistakes and learn from other people's mistakes, I add it to this article.
So this for me, I mean, look, my website is mostly about metaphysics, conspiracy topics, the alien agenda, spirituality, and so on.
But because all of that can only exist as long as we are alive, therefore this article is actually one of the most important ones.
Right, right.
And you know what else is important, Mike?
You haven't given me the directive yet that I can go buy more toothpaste.
You know, we keep going back to this.
It's available now.
Yes!
Yes.
Yeah, at our store.
Yeah, healthrangerstore.com has the toothpaste in stock.
Okay, okay.
I need to find that after this show because I'm on my last tube.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I think we've had it for like five days now.
So your time is good.
We've got like 10,000 tubes.
You're going to be fine.
Excellent.
Wow.
I can now brush my teeth again.
I've been, you know...
Yeah, well, yeah, Tom, and it's a funny story.
Our toothpaste used to be manufactured overseas.
It was actually out of Malaysia with our formulation.
And then the FDA seized an inbound shipment to harass us.
And they wanted us to destroy the shipment.
Our attorneys resolved that.
The FDA released it.
Said, oh, it's fine now.
But we had to make it in the U.S. And that's why Todd almost ran out of our toothpaste.
It is so good, too.
But that's just a lesson about...
You know, centralization.
And if you have a centralized agency like the FDA or, you know, the EPA or whatever, they can make your life a living hell.
And that speaks to the whole mindset of, Tom, of what you talk about is think for yourself.
So you want to continue along those lines about what's important for people to know as we move into this age of possibly alien orbs, you know, AI. What do we need to know moving forward here, do you think?
Well, so the thing is, we are...
Okay, so there's many, many different trends, as you know, that are converging at the same time.
Different kinds of singularities that we are approaching.
So one of those singularities is a downward one, which is the actual collapse of civilization due to...
Economic issues due to World War III, nuclear conflagration, for example, and of course things like the sun acting up and hitting us with a massive solar flare that wipes out our electric grid, or even the precursor to World War III could involve a cyber attack, EMP attack, and that alone, and I mentioned this last time, due to the EMP commission study, they said that within the first year, about 90% of the American population would be dead due to starvation and violence.
The electric grid were to go down to an EMP attack.
And I guess that would include cyber as well, if it's bad enough.
So the thing is, we're approaching a time period where there's singularities that are truly apocalyptic, and then there are singularities that are almost utopian, like Star Trek sci-fi.
So there's one that goes way up, and there's one that goes way down, and things are starting to fluctuate so rapidly between these two extremes that it becomes harder and harder to predict exactly where things will go.
But here's the thing.
When it comes to uncertainty, uncertainty alone is the prime reason to be prepared.
So you don't have to know for sure that negative things will happen.
Just the fact that security isn't guaranteed is enough to prep.
But I feel like we're living in Schrodinger's cat box.
Just like you said.
But we get to manifest or at least influence the future that is realized as the wave function collapses into reality.
We are Co-creating this with our consciousness and our souls and our actions, but I feel like what you just said, we could have the worst possible collapse tomorrow, or we could have the best possible utopia in a year because of how technologies are applied or new healing technologies or freedom of speech or all kinds of things.
Both of these possibilities are co-existing.
It's crazy.
Yeah, and the only good thing, well, the one good thing I'll say about it is that when we talk about the divine hand or synchronicity or manifesting or people's free will and destinies and spiritual missions, those kinds of things operate best within an environment of chaos or uncertainty where things are fluid and flexible,
where the unpredictable can happen, because that's when miracles can happen the most easily, versus a system that is completely locked down and deterministic, let's say like communist China or North Korea or some sort of future totalitarian AI Borg system.
So in other words, what I'm trying to say is, due to the uncertainty that is coming up and these different singularities that we are fluctuating between, I personally think that that leans everything in the favor of a positive outcome, because that allows a higher hand, whether it's our own subconscious, collective subconscious, the divine hand, whatever, to massage whether it's our own subconscious, collective subconscious, the divine hand, whatever, to massage and to arrange the unpredictable into a hidden kind So that's why I remain optimistic, despite all the potentially bad things.
But the thing is, even we ourselves, we are a mix of the unpredictable.
In other words, our free will, our intuition, our higher spiritual capacity.
Those things cannot be calculated or predicted.
However, we also have our programmed parts, the things that are programmed into us by media, by our genetics, our evolutionary biology.
Things like that.
So although we are predictable in some degree, we are also unpredictable.
And I think the same thing applies to the future as a whole.
And so therefore, I think we need to be wary of not only our power to exert a kind of synchronistic manifesting influence over reality, but we also need to be mindful of our deterministic programmed part, which is going to bite us in the butt.
As well, in terms of what we need to prepare for.
And the factors that are in play right now that are no longer synchronistic, they are almost like written in stone.
So, for example, the U.S. debt being, what was it, like $36, $37 trillion by now?
$36, yeah.
So it's headed towards $37.
And I remember reading years ago that by the time it hits $32, $33, we will probably default on our debt.
But that hasn't happened yet, thankfully.
The thing is, we are getting closer and closer to that.
And if that happens, if the dollar were to collapse...
That would be very bad because that would lead to social upheaval.
It would lead to war because one of the only ways to really shore up the dollar is to exert military might in order to regain confidence in the U.S. supremacy that props up this fiat dollar system.
So that would also lead to war, and that would then possibly lead to a cyber attack, EMP attack, and therefore the collapse of society as a whole.
So the thing is, there are deterministic factors in play right now that we have to be mindful of.
In other words, not everything is under the control of our manifesting ability.
However, we do have that ability, and we should exert it.
We just have to be mindful of both aspects.
Hang on there.
We talk about this, we all have manifesting ability, but that's fairly elusive to most of us, and I say us, because I know...
Intrinsically, that I do have the ability to manifest my future.
I really do believe there's that thing, that power of positive thinking, or sometimes when I get into stinking thinking mode, it's like what I fear manifests, which is why I do my level best to not feed the demons.
I don't succumb to fear easily, let's say.
But what do you mean?
Help others understand what you mean about manifesting our own future, Tom Montauk.
So the thing is, it really comes down to two things, metaphysics and quantum physics.
So quantum physics says that everything, before we observe it, before we interact with it, is really a cloud of possibilities.
In other words, it is a spread of different timelines that hasn't yet fully manifested.
But in order for it to manifest into a particular experience, we, the conscious observer, have to interact with it.
Now the issue is, within quantum physics, they say, oh, well, when the observer But in real life,
what this means is that it is not so much the conscious thoughts and feelings that you have, but rather it is the underlying climate, the emotional climate, the root assumptions, the core beliefs that you hold about the nature of the world, your place in it, Like some people say, life is crap and then you die, right?
That's one mindset.
And some other people say, no, life is good.
Well, which one is true?
And the answer is, well, it's a little bit of both, but it depends on which one you tune into.
And that's the one that you engage into a kind of feedback loop with and reinforcing, not only through your actions, but also in what you attract yourself through this weird quantum magnetic attraction that literally changes the probability of different events.
So in other words, if you have one future where things go really badly for you, another future where, hey, there's all this good luck coming towards you, well, which one ends up happening?
And the answer is it's the one that you, I don't like to use this new age term, but resonate.
The one that you resonate with at a deep subconscious level.
The one that you buy into in terms of your beliefs, your emotions, which of course affects your thoughts, but the thing is it's more like the constant background underlying foundation of your mind.
That is what...
Ships the probabilities that your life takes.
100%.
Is that what's meant by a multiverse in the fact that we are sitting here and through the rest of my day, there are all of these, I can't even imagine the metrics of all these different possibilities that could happen.
But I somehow make a choice of whether I go down the left aisle or right aisle, and that could change everything in my life.
But I can't reconcile in my mind that at the same time, there is every multiverse elsewhere that's happening.
Isn't it just one experience, but the multiverses are the what-ifs?
Pretty much, yeah.
One of my favorite analogies and metaphors for this is a choose-your-own-adventure book.
So if you take that book and you hold it in your hand, the entire story, all the different possibilities are contained in your hand, right?
But when you actually go through it page by page and you jump to the different page numbers, you weave out, you trace out a kind of personal narrative through it.
So you can imagine the entire book as this quantum wave function of reality, this multiversal collection.
And then you yourself, as you go through your day, consciously and subconsciously, you influence your trajectory through this matrix of different possibilities.
Great.
Great.
I want to bring in a question for you, Tom, about manifestation through the extraordinary technology tools that are becoming available.
I'm really curious about your view on this.
I'm building an AI language model on Brighteon AI. This will be a really revolutionary new model, free open source.
And I'm using a lot of AI tools for content creation.
I've done songs, music videos.
This interview will be transcribed using AI, and we'll have snippets that are illustrated using AI. And NVIDIA has just announced, Jensen Huang, who's the CEO of NVIDIA, just announced this at CES. Show my screen.
This is a supercomputer box here.
It's NVIDIA Project Digits.
This is coming out this year in May, and it puts a supercomputer power On your desk, which I call a magic manifestation box for anything in the digital world.
Like, I've said anything that you can think of, if you can describe it to the system, it can create it.
Now, this is, even metaphorically and metaphysically, this has enormous consequences, I think.
Now, I believe that AI can help decentralize.
I mean, this can be on your desk.
You don't need to go to the cloud to do this.
This can help us spread human knowledge.
This can help creative expression.
This can help small businesses and small organizations be able to amplify their messages.
But there's also the Skynet scenario, the doom, the Terminators are coming to kill us.
And I do get a lot of flack from people about AI. They're like, no, all AI is demonic.
But I see it as the positive side of we can use these tools to amplify our consciousness.
What is your take on AI? Because this is an AI singularity year, for sure.
Yeah, it is.
So the trajectory of technology, as we know, it goes in this exponential curve.
So it starts off really slow for a very long time, and it starts ramping up, and all of a sudden, it shoots up.
So we are on now on that steep part of that curve, right before it shoots up towards the sky.
And so therefore, within the next five to ten years, if the grid stays up, within that time period, You're going to start having robots walking around, delivering your mail.
You're going to have your phone talking to you as a friend, like in that movie Her.
You're going to start seeing increasingly Jetsons slash Star Trek things.
And not only within AI, but also within energy, propulsion, food growing, medicine, everything like that.
So right now, we are definitely on that steep part of the curve.
And so here's the problem.
The problem is a lot of people, when you think about trends, like, okay, well, this is how my life has been, therefore this is how it'll be in the future.
Human biology is programmed to think in a very linear way.
So we think like, well, things have changed this much in the past 10 years, so it'll change exactly the same much in the next 10 years.
But no, that's not actually how things work.
In real life, it's exponential, so therefore it's going to catch people by surprise.
And we are definitely on the cusp of a technological singularity as long as the apocalyptic singularity doesn't happen first.
Now, I will say this, that AI box that you're talking about and many other similar things like it.
Actually, if you go to gpt4all.com or somewhere on .io.
Anyway, just look up gpt4all.
Yeah, that's a software for inference.
Yeah, that is an easily usable AI that you can download to your own computer, and it's like your own local.
And the reason why that is important is because it's also a tool of prepping, that if you still have a computer, if you still have electricity, but there is no more internet, then you can still use that to say, oh, my son has these symptoms, what is a possible diagnosis?
And it'll actually list out what it could be.
Tom, our model, Enoch, which is coming out in March, it has the most training on preparedness, emergency medicine, herbs, nutrition, food growing, and so on.
And it's specifically designed, like you just said, so that you download it, you use it locally.
You can use GPT for All, or you can use LM Studio.
It also works, right?
You can use it locally.
You don't need any internet.
There's no licensing.
There's no commercials.
There's nothing.
It is designed for an apocalypse scenario to have a knowledge base, Noah's Ark of Knowledge, at your fingertips.
As long as you can power up a laptop that can run that, you can use it.
Like, and that's a game changer.
Yeah.
You know, every once in a while I make a suggestion.
Yeah.
This, I think, is a good one.
And I do a lot of consultations, as you know, with my UNAs with older individuals, you know, that may not be incredibly tech savvy.
I think it would be a great product for you to create that would be a really minimalistic.
Whether it's a desktop computer or a notebook or something like that, to where someone could get it, have it shipped, and literally have it to where what you just said, all you have to do is turn it on and start searching.
If it was just so simple, easy, that somebody who was a technophobe could open it up, I think people would absolutely want to acquire one because of the information and ease of use.
That's coming.
AbovePhone is going to do that because NVIDIA has announced...
I'm sorry, Tom, just for this diversion, but NVIDIA has announced graphics cards that are AI-capable that are going to be put into laptops starting in 90 days.
AbovePhone that does the AboveBook notebook, they're going to get those, and then they're going to put our model on it and ship it out with our model on it.
So just like you said, people open it up, boom.
That's great, but my point on that is the above book or whatever might be somewhat intimidating because there are some other processes that you kind of have to know to.
I'm just throwing it into the universe, just a really dumbed-down version that would just be like almost a toy that you would buy.
You open it up, and now the world is your oyster.
Well, I mean, ultimately, it's going to be voice to text, text to the LLM, back to text, and then back to voice.
So you're just going to talk to it like Star Trek.
Ultimately, that's where it's going.
Right, Tom?
That's the way a lot of people are going to interface with this.
Yeah, so the technology track that we're on, there's going to be a sweet spot where it leads to maximum efficiency, productivity, creativity, and help.
For example, if you're a musician and you have this great song idea, but you don't know how to play the piano or the guitar, you might have to resort to crappy digital tools to make that.
But what if you have an AI? That you can direct to create that song for you that you have in your mind.
That'd be really awesome.
You don't have to go through 30 years of musical training just to do that.
So there are certain things that can unleash the inner creativity and imagination and ideas that we have.
But here's the problem.
The problem is beyond a certain point that AI starts intruding too much into our minds, into our subconscious, into our souls until eventually it has a very grip on our spirit.
And so you can imagine the technology train that we're on.
It's this technology train, this chuchu train that takes us to the top of a mountain, this glorious mountain, takes us to the top.
And if we get on it and we ride it to the top, that'll save us so much energy to getting to the top of the mountain.
But that train is just going to keep on going right off the edge of the cliff of the mountain and crash.
So we have to be very careful in that.
The technology train is not stopping anytime soon, unless we have an EMP wipeout event.
But I think society will split into two parts.
It'll split into one part that'll realize the dangers of AI and technology and robotics and nanotechnology, and it'll put a leash on it in a very intelligent way where, like, let's keep it at the sweet spot.
And then there's others who are going to be like, we don't care, we're just going to keep on accelerating forever.
And they're the ones that are going to turn into I think society will split into, not like the Amish, where they don't really want modern technology, but more like the ones that know how to use technology responsibly, versus those that just are totally 100% gung-ho with it.
It'll turn them into something that is not human.
The transhumanists, right?
Because they'll want to integrate technology into their neurology physically, right?
To actually have AI thoughts in their heads that they did not originate.
But part of what I believe on this, and I'd love your response, both of you, is that, for example, I use suno.com to create music, and it's awesome music, but I'm a musician, right?
So I know how to do that myself.
I've done it many times.
Vocals, instruments, everything.
I use AI to accelerate a process that I already know how to do.
I have writers in my company.
We use AI tools to augment our research, to summarize articles, to clarify, to do editing.
They can do that all manually, but AI helps us do that faster.
Whereas somebody who doesn't know how to do music or doesn't know how to write...
If they just lean on AI their whole lives, then they never actually are in control because they don't have that skill set themselves.
So my concern is that today's youth will grow up in a world where they never learn how to do these things themselves.
And they just use AI to take over.
And I think that's treacherous.
Yeah, for sure.
Because here's the thing.
Certain skills that we have are skills that...
We only have them because we're trying to overcome obstacles.
We're trying to overcome inefficiency.
But those skills don't actually come from the soul.
They don't really have to do with anything spiritual or soul-oriented.
They're just, man, I've got to learn this because the stupid software is just so crappy that I've got to spend a whole day doing this video editing thing or whatever.
So if you can do that with AI, that's awesome.
That's good.
However, there are certain things that do come from the soul, like, for example, discernment, thinking about whether an idea is true or not.
And if you abandon that and rely entirely on AI to tell you everything, then you're going to start losing your spiritual soul capacities.
So I was thinking about this, and I was thinking about, okay, well, how far can this go?
Like, for example, the Apple Vision Pro, right?
It's this VR augmented reality goggle that you put on.
Well, I read a post by one of the developers of that system that talked about how future iterations of it will.
We'll start reading your brainwaves, and it'll start reading the micro-expressions on the muscles of your face in order to predict your wishes, your thoughts, your feelings before you are even conscious of them.
And then to start changing what you are fed in terms of the visual input and the programs and the apps and how they behave to match that.
So that is almost taking free will out of the equation.
Because it's starting to get to the level of your reactions and your programming and starting to feed stuff to you.
So the ultimate end point of that would be a point where you are a spirit.
You are a spirit trapped in a machine where you can't move, you don't have free will, you can't think for yourself, you can't do anything.
You're just being pushed with different stimuli, with different triggers to give you this reaction, that emotion.
And eventually just to make you this drooling, giggling fool, where you're just constantly getting your dopamine hits through this AI control system.
And all you're doing is you're just generating emotional energy constantly.
Also known as binging on Twitter.
Binging on Twitter, right.
And that's a precursor.
But what I'm trying to say is...
Imagine if that's in your head, right?
Yeah, yeah.
But can you imagine, like, how is that any different from a cow in a factory farm with tubes hooked up that's constantly milking the cow?
The cow can't move.
It's just being used for milking.
And so I think that the endpoint of the transhumanist AI is essentially to take the soul or take the spirit and turn it into an energy cow for an energy farm that is probably some sort of occult, hyperdimensional thing.
What a great summary.
I mean, and you know what?
There are going to be people lined up down the street to get those put on their udders.
They are going to be happy to be milked.
As long as they get moolah for it.
As long as they get moolah and as long as they can swipe up or swipe left or swipe right.
But yeah, why not, man?
Especially if my needs are met.
I mean, my gosh.
I don't have to go work and you're going to feed me?
Wow, this is awesome.
You know, this show is dedicated to decentralized living, and at the center of that, I believe, are our God-given rights to both liberty and privacy, Tom, and both being possible only within a high-trust society.
So my question is, with the rise of artificial intelligence, what, government corruption?
Destructive policies, surveillance, censorship.
How do we personally prepare and defend against the inevitable, egregious authoritarian control?
Yeah, I think there's two aspects to it.
One is working within the system, and that involves legislation, getting people into office who can pass laws that kind of outlaw certain things.
Like, for example, was it Florida that outlawed CBDCs, like Central Bank Digital Currencies, and some other states too are talking about that sort of thing?
That can act as a bulwark against federal or even globalist AI transhumanist intrusion.
So if you get enough of those things in place, then it'll kind of absorb a lot of that.
However, if our own main system, whether it's a global government that arises or whether our own federal government becomes even more tyrannical than it's been, if it gets to that point, then it's entirely on us, personally.
And at that point, there really is no way to be a good legal citizen and yet somehow protect yourself.
You'll start having to cross over a little bit into the dark side of tech, meaning your own personal AI. Certain bartering, black market stuff.
You're going to have to become a little wiser to that sort of streetwise stuff.
I'm sorry to interrupt, but some of that's happening right now in terms of just cryptocurrency or privacy coins usage, where many governments of the world are trying to outlaw privacy coins or they're pressuring banks or crypto exchanges to not carry privacy coins.
And that's because these governments are pushing us towards CBDCs, obviously, where they can surveil us.
Yet, because of the structure of decentralization, the consensus mechanisms, the blockchains, etc., they can't actually eradicate privacy crypto.
Yeah, exactly.
That's a good point.
So remember, originally, the marketing angle of Bitcoin is that, oh, it's a crypto.
It gets around the whole mainstream banking system.
But what's become of it?
Well, it's become increasingly regulated.
So a lot of these things that originally were privacy-oriented things became part of the same beast system.
Now they're being used for surveillance things.
However, as you mentioned, there are still privacy coins that are oriented towards the original philosophy of what Bitcoin originally was.
So for example, Monero, you know, XMR. That's one example.
The most popular privacy coin.
That is the most popular one.
And I'm a fan of it because when you say crypto...
How can it be crypto if it's not cryptic?
If it's not encrypted in a way?
If your entire purchase history is on the blockchain, come on, that's not crypto.
That's a digital certificate, but it's not crypto.
I think the true privacy coins are the true cryptos.
In the future, I think tokens in general will be of two types.
So it'll be one type that is entirely an arm of the beast.
And then you'll have the other ones that are like black market digital currency.
And that's what the privacy coins are.
So even if they're outlawed, even if they're officially outlawed and they're not even available on these exchanges anymore.
Crypto, for example.
I'm sorry, Monero.
They have decentralized exchanges where you send in cash and someone sends you...
I'm talking about local people.
It's like Craigslist.
It's like Craigslist for Monero.
You send in cash and you get the Monero and vice versa.
You can sell it to get cash.
So things like that that go around the system.
And in the future, if there's no more cash, then it'll be gold and silver and goods or whatever it is that's of value in the future.
So yeah, some form of private digital currency will always exist.
And I think that is what people will switch to.
They'll start switching more towards dark web type activities.
Just in order to make ends meet because if they're locked out of a social credit score system and they can't buy food and gas and travel anymore, then it's going to have to become a black market operation.
Not necessarily.
I think it can be the white web.
I'm serious about that.
Instead of a negative connotation.
I think that there's going to be platforms that will exist that will be able to take any kind of input currency, fiat, gold, Monero, Bitcoin, whatever, exchange it for a private medium of exchange to where vendors can meet consumers and they can do their business.
And then on the off-ramp side, the vendors could be able to change it back, kind of like change now, Mike, you know, hypothetically.
But I think the technology is going to get there to be able to do that, and it's not going to necessarily be viewed as dark, as evil, as trying to get away with something.
It is just moving value privately.
It's like operating with cash, except digitally.
So I smoke a lot of hopium, and I think that that's...
That's in our future as well.
Todd, I think that Trump's victory in the election actually reinforces exactly your point because Trump and his team are pro-crypto, but of course they're really promoting Bitcoin.
But along with that, and I'm not a fan of centralized Bitcoin.
It's become very, very centralized, just a few developers and so on.
And the block size has been artificially restricted.
To really prevent it from being usable in e-commerce.
But a lot of these other projects, some of which you're involved in, Todd, and we've interviewed people on all these projects, they have real viability in that area.
And what I see is, for example, atomic swaps, non-custodial swaps that are becoming more mature and will enable this liquidity between tokens.
Tom, you know, it seems like at this point, number one, what do you think about Trump becoming president?
What are the implications in terms of cryptocurrency?
And if he were to try to push a CBDC today, I don't think that would fly.
I think his own user base would say, no, no, we're not going to go into a CBDC. What do you think?
Well, I mean, he's said so far that he is entirely against CBDCs, but he never said that he's been against crypto, right?
So there's a difference between crypto and a CBDC. CBDC is a tool.
It's programmed money, for you guys who don't know.
It's a programmed money where, okay, you know, you get deposited a thousand crypto or CBDC dollars in your bank account, and you want to go buy some ammo, but they say like, oh, nope, sorry, you said this bad thing on social media, so therefore you're a violence risk.
We're going to shut off your money.
you won't be able to buy ammo with that money but you can buy other things but you just can't buy ammo things like that whatever's coming look to China first China does it first, then California does it second and then the rest of America does it so you can look at those places to see what's coming if they get their way but as far as Trump and crypto goes Crypto tends to go up as the economy goes up, so I do think that we're going to have at least three, maybe four years of a kind of golden age of America that's coming, maybe longer than that.
You mean a golden-orange age?
Golden-orange age.
Speaking of that, with Trump being elected, is it just me, or does it kind of seem like the world elites are in...
Well, you know that saying that politics is downstream from culture?
The thing is, if you want to change politics, if you want to change the world regime, you have to start with culture.
And so that's why when Trump came on the scene in 2015-2016, he didn't just run as a political candidate.
He actually, well, okay, so Ron Paul originally was the one that kind of started it, but he took that to the next level, and it became a giant cultural movement.
So you got that, and then of course the Q thing came along, and that also amplified the fringier aspects of it.
But the thing is, the fringe is becoming increasingly mainstream.
So now, the mainstream narratives that you hear now from a lot of people, I mean not everyone, because some people are still the NPC mindset, and they're still programmed by CNN and MSNBC and Fox News to an extent.
But more and more people are becoming fringe.
Things that used to be fringe, like for example, I remember back in the '90s, because I read a lot of Anti-establishment literature during those days.
And I remember how End the Fed and the Federal Reserve conspiracy stuff, that was all limited to the far right-wing culture.
Yeah, that was radical stuff.
Or criticizing fluoride.
That was considered radical.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then by the time Ron Paul came along, you had housewives chanting End the Fed.
You know what I mean?
It became mainstream, and it's only gotten even worse or way beyond that.
So Ron Paul, that was 2008. So now, 20 years later, It's almost like that revolution that he started is crystallizing.
It's crystallizing.
And not only in America, but also around the world.
Thanks to social media and the internet, which has created a kind of monoculture where you can have someone in a village in some third world country that laughs and thinks in the same memes that we do here in America.
There's a shared culture that is rising on the internet thanks to social media and memes and videos and truth videos and so on.
And it's not just entertainment, it's also culture, and therefore, politics.
So therefore, I think this idea, this 21st century Americanism, which traces back to the Bill of Rights and the idea of individual liberty and all that stuff, privacy, self-defense, that idea is spreading more and more around the world where it's not outlandish for me to say that one day you could have a kind of United States of Earth situation.
Ah, interesting.
That's one of the points I wanted to make during the show, which is that people are scared of the idea of a New World Order, a One World Government, because they're thinking of the New World Order, or the One World Government, which involves the Illuminati and the Vatican and London, that whole Club of Rome stuff, and the Trilateralist Commission, Bilderbergs and all that.
But the thing is, if you go far enough into the future, do you honestly see...
That we will remain as individual nations forever, even a thousand years from now?
And I would say no, because of technology, because of shared culture, because of the spreading of truth and ideals.
I think there's going to be an increasing consolidation.
And then the question is, well, consolidation towards what?
On what principles and around what nucleus?
Is that nucleus going to be communist China?
Is it going to be Russia?
Or is it going to be something more like United States and the Constitution and the idea of a just, enlightened republic?
And hopefully it's the latter.
But I do think that there's a game of musical chairs that is happening now between the so-called multipolar world, between Russia, China, and the West, mainly America, that I think there's a competition over which one is going to become the central planetary culture or power in the future.
And I think that's what a lot of things are going on for that reason right now.
Tom, I love the description you just gave.
And I arrive at a really similar conclusion, but from a different perspective, which is that I believe that all governments are obsolete, that we do not need centralized overlords, that no government should be involved in currency.
For example, we don't need government printed currency.
We don't need government medical boards.
We can do a much better job.
We don't need government welfare.
Churches and nonprofits can do a far better job.
We proved that during the North Carolina storms and what have you.
I feel like the collapse of this system...
See, I see the collapse of the dollar as a very positive thing in the long run.
Short term, I agree.
Chaotic.
A lot of people will suffer.
People will lose their life savings, pension benefits.
I get all that.
But in the long run, humanity cannot be free as long as the dollar exists.
That's clear.
Because when the dollar exists, a centralized, tyrannical, authoritarian system can always print more dollars and weaponize them against you by paying the CDC to push...
Propaganda, let's say, as an example.
So the collapse of the system and governments is necessary to decentralize humanity, to free humanity.
And maybe we'll still have nations, like borders on a map, but we don't need national governments to rule over us.
And I think we're really starting to see, even with AI and with cryptocurrency and with...
Widespread medical knowledge and medical technology, I think we're going to see more and more, like even right now in America, Todd, think about this.
How many people do you know who say, the healthcare system sucks so bad, I'm just not even going to use it.
I'm not even going to buy health insurance.
I'm not even going to, right?
I mean, don't you see that too?
A ton.
Some by default of ill affordability, right?
But others...
Because they are, you know, I hate to use the word woke because you know who ruined it, but there are people who are awake to the fact that, who are not NPCs, let's say this.
The playing characters out there are arriving at the conclusion, the rightful conclusion, that we can do better almost self-assessing our own health and seeking out people like you, Mike, and what you bring to the table on how we can not Lean on big pharma and instead get healthy by treating our bodies well.
And I'll turn this over to you, Tom, in just a second.
I apologize.
But what I see in the very near future is you'll have like AI doctor avatars on your desktop, powered by language models like the ones that we're building, and you will actually talk to that doctor first.
It's an avatar or a health coach or whatever you want to call it.
Love it.
And that will help answer your questions about food and nutrition and even disease prevention and all these kinds of things.
And then even your health insurance company, if you have a health insurance company, and you say, I need to see the doctor, you know what they're going to say?
Well, we have Dr. Avatar here first, right?
So you log into their portal, you see their AI doctor first.
And eventually, there won't even be any doctors because their AI doctor will prescribe pharmaceuticals and get kickbacks from big pharma, etc.
We don't need their centralized system to talk to a doctor avatar.
We can do that on our desktop, right?
So, Tom, it's all yours.
Yeah, exactly.
There's rain here.
I'm going to mute myself until the rain passes, and I'm sorry about the background noise.
Okay.
All right, go ahead.
Yeah, so the technology curve that we are accelerating up, it's going to make so many things obsolete and so many things cheaper.
Now, of course, the critics will say, well, no, the corporate fat cats, they're going to gobble up the benefits of AI and everyone's going to be just as poor as they are now.
Well, these guys become trillionaires.
So maybe that's true to an extent, but here's the thing.
We're not talking about technologies that can be consolidated into the hands of a few.
We're talking about something that is easily put into your own home.
and not just AI but for example we don't need certain technologies that get increasingly complex like you know a crazy iPhone that you plug into your brain or something and it's like a neural link chip or something you don't need that we only need very basic technologies that take care of the essentials we We need, for example, some sort of a home generator, an infinite energy generator that you can stick in your closet or your basement, and you'll have electricity for the rest of your life.
So that's number one.
Number two, we need a better form of propulsion that doesn't rely on Limited solar power or oil, gasoline, diesel, things like that.
So if you have propulsion that's like anti-gravity, for example, like a hover car, that's it.
You don't need roads anymore either, so you can get rid of that whole industry.
And then beyond that, you need some sort of magical, well not magical, but very effective medical technology, whether it's AI or some sort of scalar physics thing where it scans your entire body's energy field and it applies a set of frequencies that heals any ailment that you have.
Something like a Star Trek tricorder kind of thing.
Something like that is coming, too.
And lastly, all we need is a better form of food production.
Now, there are suppressed technologies like CO2 growing things or psionics, like the cosmic pipe.
It's like a coil thing that generates some sort of energy that increases food yields by three times to maybe even ten times.
And I think in the future, with a combination of that technology and also robotics and AI, food will become so plentiful that you don't even think about buying food because it's so easily available.
So once you have these things in place, you don't need to go further necessarily.
And then at that point, you can focus on things like spirituality, philosophy, art, creativity, right?
And those things will unleash The human potential without us being chained down by an animal existence that requires us to homestead 10 hours a day just to make enough money or food to survive.
So I think that sort of thing is coming if everything goes well.
But we have to watch out for those transhumanists who are not satisfied with that, who want to keep taking it.
So we have to discern between what is essential, what is worth preserving, and what is not.
And so that whole entire thing comes down to knowledge, discernment.
Well, as long as I can have the personal decision to make the choice of...
Whether you're going to put a McDonald's or a Taco Bell in my home so I don't have to drive to it, we'll be good.
No, but that brings up a really interesting point.
Food creation, like a 3D printer for food, but not a gimmick that just lays down layers of paste, but actually something that can molecularly...
Generate highly nutritious food.
Like, that day is probably coming.
And even before then, we have really strong agricultural automation.
John Deere just announced at the Consumer Electronics Show a whole line of automated farming equipment.
There's no place for a human to even sit in it.
There is no human.
And it'll plow, it'll plant, it'll harvest, it'll zap weeds with lasers and all kinds of stuff.
That day is coming where food abundance is definitely right around the corner, Tom, but what will happen to all the billions of people who are displaced from the workforce?
Great question.
What's going to happen?
Initially, that's why you're going to see major levels of social upheaval.
A recent example was a longshoreman who was being threatened by port automation.
So a lot of these ports, you know, the shipping ports, these guys have been in the career for decades, and now they're being threatened by the automation of that system, and so they went on strike because they didn't want to get replaced.
And Trump talked with them and sided with them because he's like, well, we've got to protect our fellow Americans.
But the thing is, the business is going to head over to China, which is getting automated more and more.
So that's actually another threat that we're facing, which is that even if we try to preserve our principles and we say, okay, let's draw the line here, let's not really go beyond that, there's other nations like China that are not going to draw that line, and they're going to create cyborg super soldiers that if they wanted to invade, they could probably take over very and they're going to create cyborg super soldiers that if they wanted to invade, So in other words, what I'm saying is, if we are going to preserve our humanity,
We have to up our defenses and our efficiency in other ways in order to offset those other ones that did compromise our principles and did kind of, you know, like in the Olympics when they inject themselves with steroids and such.
It's illegal, but that's how they win.
Well, the same thing with the world right now.
There's this competition going on between different nations, and the ones that hand over the principles to gain more physical power, they're making a deal with the devil, and they're going to turn themselves into cyborg, you know, borgs.
That has a major physical advantage, but they're going to be spiritually deadened in the long run.
And so I think down the line, if that sort of thing keeps on going, we will see an eventual almost sci-fi war between man and machine once again.
But not just plain machines, but machines that have taken over or sided with the people that integrated with it.
So there's just all this crazy stuff coming.
And I will say this too, that the whole idea of the ages, the astrological ages, how we had the age of Taurus and then it became...
Aries and then Pisces, which we've been in for the past 2,000 years.
And the next, we're going into the age of Aquarius.
Well, if you look up what all the traits of Aquarius are, those are the exact trends that are taking shape right now.
And so those are the trends that I think will dominate for the next 1,000 to 2,000 years.
And we're starting to see that taking shape right now.
Wow.
Yeah, both positive and the negative aspects of Aquarius.
See, I agree with you.
There's going to be a war, a technology war, maybe a Terminator-style war, but I see that it'll be machine-on-machine because there'll be one group of machines that's open-sourced, reprogrammed by decentralized humans.
Those machines fight for us, like Terminator 2, right?
Versus the centralized Skynet machines, which is Terminator 1. And so it's going to be machine-on-machine.
But, you know, It's important.
I believe in automating where it frees us up to do higher things.
So, for example, in my own home, I know how to do dishes.
I know how to fold laundry.
Do I want to spend my days doing that?
No, not really.
I should have a machine that washes the laundry.
I have a machine that washes the dishes.
Why can't I have another machine that loads the dishwasher?
Because I should be creating content.
Or creating technology for people, not doing dishes, right?
So when I look at the displacement of people, I also see many cases where people can be uplifted into a higher role of human expression as well.
Does that make sense, Todd?
First, your thoughts?
Just give me an animal farm, man.
I just want to go graze on the animal farm.
Yeah, no, that makes a lot of sense.
And I don't know.
I'm also wanting to ask a question about aliens, if you don't mind.
I know we're running short here on time.
But, Tom, specifically the aliens that are not of this world, right?
And presuming that they do indeed exist, why does the alien phenomenon in the narrative seem to be so closely tied to the USA? Seriously.
I mean, like what we've been seeing lately.
I'm not hearing that from...
Anywhere else in the world just seems like it's us.
What's going on there, Tom?
Yeah, so the thing is, there are reports of contact and abductions in other countries, like even Africa.
A lot of the tribes there, especially the Zulus, Zulu shamans, they're talking about how their people have had contact with other worldly beings.
But the thing is, if we're talking about actual treaties, transfer of technologies, and infiltration...
That's mainly the U.S., the U.S. military-industrial complex.
And that's because according to different aspects of ufology lore, which I think is backed up by different insiders and various items of evidence, the U.S. government, or at least the secret government back in the 50s, maybe the 60s, they made deals with certain off-world alien factions.
And they made deals with them in exchange for technology that they could use against Soviet Russia during the Cold War.
To up America's defenses.
And that technology augmented what the US already brought over from Germany after World War II with Operation Paperclip.
You know, the entire German Nazi intelligentsia was brought over, well, for the most part.
And so therefore, the US became even more so the central linchpin or power center of the planet.
And so the thing is, if you're an alien force and you don't have a lot of troops to take over a planet, then what you want to do is you want to start infiltrating the planet more and more.
And the way you do that is by targeting the major power centers, the areas that have the greatest influence over the rest of the planet so that you can use them to automate your control system over the rest of the planet.
So therefore, you would be targeting the U.S. primarily.
And I think that's why, due to that and also due to the deals made between the secret government and the alien factions at the time, one of the conditions of the deal, allegedly, is that in exchange for technology, these alien groups would be allowed to abduct American citizens.
Abduct them, implant them, program them, study them.
And that was sort of a deal with the devil, but that was a deal that was made in exchange for security against Soviet Russia, you know, due to having these advanced technologies.
But the lore goes that by the 60s, by the late 60s, the government knew that it's been had.
That the deals that they made were tricks.
You know, the same thing with the Native Americans versus the Europeans.
They made certain deals, but a lot of times these deals weren't quite honored, and the Native Americans got the short end of that bargain.
So the same thing happened with the human authorities at the time, where the abduction program spiraled out of control, and way more people were being abducted, and much more horrible things were happening to them.
I mean, I'm talking about mutilations, people being eaten, never seen again, things like that.
That was happening on a wider level than they ever anticipated.
And so the government faction, this group, they split into two different camps.
One camp says, We need to fight this.
We need to somehow awaken humanity to this threat, build up our planetary defense systems, knock out these alien groups' proxies within other governments, and therefore create a united world that stands opposed to these alien threat powers.
That was one camp.
The other camp says there's no way that we can fight them, and the only way to survive is to go along with it.
And not only that, but some of these people started sympathizing with some of these alien powers, thinking a lot more like them.
Well, probably because they were psychopaths themselves, right?
So it's like little human psychopaths versus alien psychopaths.
They're like two birds of a feather.
And so I do think that within the secret military, secret government groups, there are different factions.
And some factions lean more sympathetic and cooperative with these negative, hostile alien groups.
And other ones are opposed to it and might even be affiliated with the possibility of some sort of benevolent, smaller alien group.
These two things might be driving a lot of current events that are happening even right now with different surface-level political camps.
Like, for example, the small government, constitutionalist, patriot stuff versus the psychopathic, leftist, Marxist, communist, fascist side of things.
Maybe those two things are reflections of the two deeper camps that are existing within the whole secret government level.
And so, therefore, I do think that this competition between these camps and possibly even between their alien benefactors, one more positive.
Any other one more psychopathic?
This war between them could actually lead to something.
Maybe it's happening even right now.
Well, if God wrote a book, I think we should all actually read it, and that sounds a lot like the story that I've studied for lots of years, that there is good and evil, and that there is a spiritual war that's going on.
So, hey man, why not us?
It's a crazy world.
I'm just glad we're in it right now.
Wow.
All right.
So, number one, an amazing discussion.
And thank you, Tom, for taking the time to join us.
And Todd, as always, we'll take a quick break here and come back for the after party.
But let me just give out your website, Tom.
Montauk.net is the site, and you cover more than what we talked about today.
Is there anything you'd like to add about your site or your channels or videos or what have you?
Yeah, so Telegram is a good place, because that's where I post a lot of long-form content.
But I do a lot of shorter stuff, too, on X, on Twitter.
So if you go to x.com slash TomMontauk, just one word, M-O-N-T-A-L-K, then you'll find my Twitter channel there.
I post a lot of stuff there, too.
YouTube as well, and Gab, and so on.
Okay, all right, outstanding.
TomMontauk is your handle on Twitter.
All together.
All together.
All right, perfect.
Thank you, Tom.
This has been a pleasure speaking with you today.
Definitely an exciting time to be alive.
Wow.
Don't oversleep, folks, because things can change every day.
You know, you wake up and like, whoa, what happened to the history that I once knew?
Oh, that's all over now.
It's something new.
Something different.
The aliens are here now, and they're going to run the Fed.
I don't know what's going on.
But thank you, Tom.
It's been a pleasure.
Yeah, thanks for having me.
All right.
Thanks, Tom.
Happy New Year.
Wow.
What a great guest.
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All right, welcome back, folks.
This is the after-party discussion, Todd and I. This is where we usually go off the rails in some way.
But, Todd, you know, wow, what a great interview to start off the new year.
And I believe, didn't we begin this show in 2023?
Yes.
Right?
Yes.
Aren't we coming up on two years of this show?
Yes.
Wow.
Yes, we are.
Isn't it nuts?
Yeah.
How fast the time goes.
I mean, I think there's 70 or more episodes, all timeless in their own right.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, and I'm directing my staff.
I'm going to have every one of the episodes re-rendered with captions.
Oh, that's great.
Yeah, yeah.
They're not going to like when I give them that order.
But it's like, well, you know, we have the tools now.
Let's just do it.
That's awesome.
And then we're just going to re-upload and replace the videos that we have.
Because, you know, look, we like to reach out to the hearing impaired also.
That's been one of the main things over all these years.
People are like, what about the hearing impaired?
Like, well, you know, yes, but it's difficult to put captions.
But not anymore.
It's automatic.
Wow, that's amazing.
That's AI. Well, I have to tell you, Mike, you just always impress me how you lean into...
Technology and any challenges that are in your way.
And you figure things out.
I literally think, and I'm not speaking this into existence, Scott, but one day, I think your headstone should read for the rest of us, for the rest of our benefit, he figured S-H asterisk T out.
That's what you do, Mike.
Wow.
Well, that's high praise.
But, I mean, isn't that what we all do, though?
I mean, number one, that's what humans are good at doing, is problem-solving and building tools.
But here on this show, Todd, I mean, think about coming up on two years.
We have been at the forefront of things, like, you know, months before they really hit mainstream.
We interviewed founders of projects that are only now...
taking off or exploding in popularity.
You know, we talked about technologies that most people weren't aware of, and now they're becoming aware of it.
So, of course we're gonna keep, you know, spearheading this and leading the way.
And remember the photo of that supercomputer that I showed you?
- Yes, yes.
- Yeah, so there it is, it's called NVIDIA Digits.
This is coming out in May.
- Looks cool. - And it's only gonna cost, they say, about $3,000.
And Todd, It replaces, I did the math on this, it replaces over 30 desktop workstations with GPUs in them.
Unbelievable.
30. Right.
So you'll be able to, no, check this out.
With this box on your desk, okay, you'll be able to locally describe the kind of movie you want to watch.
Like, I always use, like, I want Bruce Willis, Die Hard, but I want Die Hard.
Two that doesn't suck.
Okay.
And, like, render a new version of Die Hard 2. Whoa.
And it will create the entire movie for you in real time as you're watching it.
The characters, the voices, the scripting, the scenes, the lighting, everything in real time as you're watching it.
That's amazing.
Talk about choose your own adventure.
You can even stop it and say, wait a minute, I don't like the direction this movie's going.
I want to change it at this point, and it'll do that.
Wow.
Can I at least continue to Zoom like this so we can keep having these shows, Mike?
Well, of course.
All I'm saying is that the way we consume content is going to radically change.
You won't go out and buy a movie any longer.
May I submit?
My dim view of the populace in general is there are going to be two groups, just like I believe there are PCs and NPCs.
There are going to be those people who are going to become adept at articulating what they want.
But others who may lack the ability to critically think aren't going to be able to engage that side of their brain to be able to do anything but say, I want to watch a Christmas story again.
Right.
You're exactly right.
And those people will be obsolete, honestly, in the new world.
I mean, if you can't imagine it first.
See, this is why I say to critics of AI, some people say that AI makes your brain lazy.
I find exactly the opposite.
It forces you to engage your brain to first imagine what you want.
Images, songs, videos, computation, whatever.
And then you have to tell the system what you want, and you have to be very specific.
And then it creates what you want, right?
But the human side comes first.
And that becomes somewhat of a muscle that you have to exercise, right?
Over and over.
Kind of like I was not really proud to say it, but, you know, I have some lead.
And some things that shoot that lead.
And I was thinking, man, it has been a long time since I've been to a specific range.
And I had to stop and think, whoa, I'm going to have to kind of relearn this a little bit for my safety, right?
But it's the same thing with AI and being able to direct that $3,000 machine to ultimately provide the movie entertainment that you're imagining.
Those who engage and those who lean in, those who, Mike, you know, jumped in the shallow end headfirst of private crypto back when, right?
You become adept at it and you start figuring it out.
And then all of a sudden...
You can do what most people in this world can't, which is exchange value privately.
It's going to be the same thing with this technology.
Well, exactly.
This is really empowering for decentralization.
So here's a great example of this.
Suppose I'm a parent, and I've got like a seven-year-old kid, and I want a great movie for that kid.
Do I trust Disney?
No.
It's going to be filled with LGBT themes.
Even Star Wars has been taken over by Disney and turned into just woke idiocy.
I mean, they ruined Star Wars, for God's sake, right?
Well, I want my kid to have a Pixar-style animation, but wholesome with family values, let's say.
You're never going to get that from Hollywood.
But you can get it from NVIDIA hardware, a rendering engine, and whatever software will render the movies for you.
you so in other words you can have the movie you want you can have the song you want you can have the fiction books you want you can ask these ai engines generate a fiction novel on the following themes you'll get what you want and what it means is that the digital world of content begins to mirror your intentions so you talk about manifestation yes there you go right
so if you're a sick twisted pervert who eats pedo pan peanut butter sandwiches then you're You know, you're going to use AI for all kinds of weird, perverted, sick stuff, and that's horrible, but it's only amplifying whatever's in that person's demonic psyche.
Right.
If you're a God-centered person, you can generate the content that's aligned with your values.
Wow.
Wow.
That is a reason to get out of bed.
The right side of the bed, by the way.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, this is an amazing time.
Todd, I mean, this is an amazing time for us to have our show, by the way.
We picked the right era.
Yes.
Yeah.
Decentralization is taking off in 2025 and beyond.
And even with Trump going into power here, we're going to see, you know, more decentralization with RFK Jr. at HHS, a lot of reforms, maybe some shrinking of government.
I guess we'll have to see.
But think about what this means for our For our future, we're going to have so many more options than what we've had in the past.
Yeah.
I think people are encouraged.
I'm getting a sense, Mike, that people are losing their fear.
They're feeling like the tide has turned a bit.
And that's what excites me.
I really, really do believe with all my heart that 2025 to 2030, I think that is going to be a really good time for us all.
I think it's going to be I think we should ask the question, why not us?
Why do we have to live in misery?
Why not figure this out together?
And I'm just so excited.
What a different feeling I have now than 2020. Sure.
Or a collapse of the dollar or maybe a war or whatever.
I'm not saying we won't have that, but we can navigate that.
We can handle it.
Exactly.
Whatever is thrown our way with knowledge at your fingertips and resources and understanding food and medicine and how to protect your neurology and so on, we can handle anything they can throw at us.
Yeah.
And it's easier than ever to connect with like-minded people.
When we start, like you were talking about these wholesome movies that you could create, boy, what a great thing then as a shared platform with other parents that are also using that little computer where they're coming up with their own movies for their kids.
And then that's shared, and then it's wholesome, and then it's just like, wow, it can be so cool.
Well, and that exists right now in the music world, Suno, right?
Suno.com, and I did a Brighteon song, and I've got some great songs coming out, including I Want My Bailout Money.
I'm finishing up the music video on that.
But you can do that right now.
So you create a song, and then you share it, and everybody can listen to that song.
The only problem with that is that creativity is so eating into your Netflix-consuming time, Mike, and I'm worried about you.
I did a country-western song.
Did you?
Yes, it's done.
And I played it for a friend of mine, and he broke down in tears.
It was so...
Oh my gosh.
What's the name?
It's called...
Well, I don't want to give the title out until I release it, because it's a really catchy title.
But it's about the years before technology, actually.
Okay.
And it's a country-western style with a fiddle, a fiddle lead.
Oh, nice.
The fiddle is such an amazingly emotional instrument.
Very expressive.
Right, right.
And you'll love this song.
I'll send it to you after the show today.
Oh, please do.
It's a great example of...
And look, Todd, I keep getting contacted by people who say, all AI is demonic.
You can't let the demons into your life.
Stop using AI. And I'm like, are you kidding me?
I'm loving this country western song that I created.
I keep listening to it, and it's like the most joyful thing I've done this week.
But it's demonic.
It doesn't look demonic.
It sounds awesome.
It's wholesome.
I wrote the lyrics.
I wrote the lyrics.
It's aligned with my values.
It's not demonic.
There was a day when an automobile was deemed demonic, right?
You're turning your back on the horse and carriage.
That's for demons, Mike.
Well, here's a true story.
When I was in the fifth grade, I had an Apple II computer.
Right.
I was the only kid in the school that had this computer.
Shocker.
Shocker.
Yeah.
And it had this floppy disk drive, okay?
Five and a quarter inch floppy disk, right?
Five and a quarter inch.
And they held almost nothing, like, I don't know, one kilobyte or something.
It was insanely small.
And we had a show and tell.
I brought the computer to school one day and was showing the other kids this computer and the teacher said to me after class, pulled me aside and said, that thing, that thing's demonic.
And I was thinking the storage volume of this floppy disk is so low that it is actually kind of like hell.
This thing is so slow.
But I had a teacher that said it's demonic, and I guess that has persisted ever since.
Sure.
But I just look at them as tools.
I wonder if that teacher has a credit card.
Has she ever used a credit card, I wonder?
Because, of course, that was demonic at one point in time, too.
Boy, I tell you.
I mean, maybe Microsoft's blue screen of death is kind of demonic.
But that's Windows.
It sure can be.
Yeah.
But all these years, man, I mean...
If we use technology with our values still centered, then that's responsible, mature usage.
But if we allow technology, like Tom warned, if we allow technology to invade us and take over our neurology, and by the way, I'm not going to walk through the world with augmented reality glasses.
No way.
I'm not going to do that.
For me, that's a boundary.
And I'm not going to depend on my phone.
Having this great conversation with me, I couldn't imagine doing that.
I feel like...
I just couldn't look myself in the mirror.
It's like, really?
I'm not dumb.
I mean, I know what's happening here.
And all they're doing is they're...
I mean, talk about no privacy.
Everything...
Oh my gosh.
Don't do that, people.
Yeah, no kidding.
Because if you have a conversation with your phone like that, you know that Google or Apple is scraping that data.
And build my profile on you.
Unless you have a de-Googled phone.
Right.
Right.
That's why you need privacy.
But, yeah.
I mean, they're going to have, like, AI counselors, and people are going to just talk about their deepest secrets with these AI counselors, right?
That's right.
Can you imagine the AI priests?
Forgive me, Father AI. What are your sins, my son?
What are your sins, right?
And we're reporting this to the local police, yeah.
There are all kinds of moral boundaries that the tech companies will try to cross, and we have to have that discernment in all of us.
Right, right.
It's true.
Wow.
Well, all right, so an amazing conversation, and even this talk that we've just had right here has also been really something.
I mentioned to you earlier that I did an interview with Andy Schlafly, Who is the lead attorney that is part of the group, including Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, that is suing the federal government to stop the CTA, the Corporate Transparency Act.
Now, the Corporate Transparency Act requires all organizations, including nonprofits and small groups and LLCs and small businesses, to register with the Financial Crimes Division of the federal government.
You have to send them your driver's license, your social security number, your home address, everything.
It's crazy.
It's like, why?
Am I a money launderer?
No!
I mean, even if you just start a chess club for the school and whatever, you have to hand over all this.
It's like KYC for everything.
Such an overreach.
And it's not inexpensive because you have these companies now that were born reaching out to people with LLC saying, you're scaring you.
Rightfully, if it went into place, you literally, if you didn't file it, then you could be fined $500 a day.
You could even go to jail for up to two years.
That's right.
They're saying, we'll file it for you, but it's $236 or more.
Well, the good news is this law has been suspended right now by the Fifth Circuit.
It's still suspended at the moment.
But I want to bring that up because the solution that you have been advocating is Is another way to protect your assets and to protect the privacy of your assets away from this kind of really outrageous unconstitutional surveillance.
So, you want to talk about UNA versus CTA? Yeah, absolutely.
First of all, if people want to learn about the UNA, Unincorporated Nonprofit Association, please visit my575e.com.
Here it is.
Let's go.
And you'll be able to watch a 90-minute video of the gentleman, Dennis Gray, who has helped people for over 34 years acquire this entity that provides amazing tax advantages, but also protection for not only your personal property, but just your own privacy, Mike.
Being able to...
If you have an LLC, you are able to have the managing partner change to your UNA, and then that LLC is exempt.
So it's all, it's just amazing.
The more and more that I unpack, Mike, you know that I have a private telegram group where we have just...
I don't even want to share with you the number of UNA operators, but we had our first annual meetup on December 31st.
Oh, that's great.
About 40% of the total group, they were all on a Zoom call at noon, and it was just a meet and greet.
Put your face with a name.
If you wanted to come on, some people are private, and that's cool, too.
But what was amazing is it evolved into this.
This two-hour Q&A session that I have.
Yeah, when somebody acquires a U&A, they're invited into that Telegram group, which we have over 80 pin messages of relevant utility associated with these entities.
It's just great.
Wait a minute, so you're building the most comprehensive knowledge base on this topic of anybody in the world?
Oh, 100%.
Wow.
And it's not just me.
Like, there's this woman, I'm not going to say her last name, but her first name is Betsy.
She is amazing that if you have an LLC and want to be able to change the managing member, she knows how to do it, why you do it, the benefits of doing it.
But the greatest benefit, if this CTA ever rears its ugly head again, is that unincorporated associations, the nonprofit associations, are exempt per FinCEN, per the 19th exemption on their list.
And that will protect you.
So you don't have to file that beneficial ownership nonsense.
Thankfully, it's on ice, Mike.
Okay, so a lot of people who have, like, community groups, you know, it could be a parent-teacher association, it could be the local chess club, it could be a T-ball education group that needed to be incorporated in order to have insurance or something, right?
And, you know, you're just helping your community.
You don't want to register with the Financial Crimes Division of the federal government, some overreach, abusive system.
So what you're saying is, if I'm hearing you correctly, is that these people could instead form a UNA, which is exempt from that reporting requirement, and that that UNA would provide many other benefits in addition to privacy.
They can certainly acquire a UNA. I wouldn't suggest that people go out and acquire a UNA for that individual purpose.
There are so many other attributes.
What's cool about the website, Mike, my575e.com, is when you go in there, you get access to a free downloadable PDF that has 32 positive attributes of the UNA. What I recommend, and that's one of them, right?
That's one of the benefits.
But I recommend people go in.
It's free.
Watch the video, download the PDF, and that'll answer about 90% of people's questions.
And then what happens, Mike, is what people are doing is they're booking some time with me.
They can do it right through the site where they just have a few more hanging questions.
And they can book a half hour with me that I actually, it doesn't matter.
I mean, I go over all the time.
I'll answer all of the questions.
That is, and I am going to share, disclose, that's $150 because, Mike, you know when I was doing it for free, the no-show rate was 70%.
I couldn't believe it.
Seven out of ten people would just blow it off.
But now with 150, people show up.
But I want to give it back to the people.
And so if somebody orders then a UNA, I just say take it off the investment of the UNA. I don't want it.
It's not there for that.
It's just to get people to be able to show up.
But what I've found is that...
I mean, I'm not going to say 100%, Mike, but when people have that session with me and they ask their questions and I answer them, or if it's some people have different complicated matters, and I'll get Dennis Gray on the line as well to be able to work through things.
But people are then like...
Aha!
And I was so busy the last two weeks of December, Mike, I can't even tell you.
All I was was on those calls.
Because people, it was the end of the year.
People were wanting to be able to, if there are tax advantages associated, they were wanting to learn how.
So all I do is I tell people, look, I don't sell these things.
I inform people about it.
And you're an adult.
You're a big girl, big boy.
You can make your own decisions.
But I just encourage people to check it out.
It's free to do so, and who knows, maybe one of those 32 attributes that you can relate to and you can benefit from.
Yeah, and I like the way you frame this.
It's about people doing your own research.
I mean, as a disclaimer, we're not your financial advisors, obviously.
We're not your tax attorneys.
So do your own research, know your options, make your own decisions, and get...
Get appropriate local legal help in your state as appropriate, but learn about this vehicle.
Absolutely.
Mike, I do want to say one thing.
This is just a little bit of a rehinge of my shoulder so I can pat myself on the back.
At the meetup, I asked people to please go into the UNA Biz Telegram group.
It's a private group.
And just rate, what has the support been like?
After you acquired yours.
Yeah.
I got an A-plus from everybody, Mike.
Wow.
So that's what I stand on.
Yeah.
That's what I feel good about.
You're really great at helping people through this process.
You're a great communicator, even on Telegram and educating people, like the Zoom call, the videos, all of it.
I really admire that about what you're doing.
And what's cool is that two-hour meetup, I broke into four relevant parts.
That now people who acquire it can go back and they can binge watch that so that they can benefit from all of that really good karma and good conversation that we had.
Wow.
The invitation is there, folks.
We're here to help if you seek it.
All right.
So cool.
I'll tell you about the tools that we use for captioning, too.
You might want to caption those videos.
Okay.
Tell me.
Yeah.
I'll give you that info after the show.
All right, now let me mention what the sponsors on our side, my side of the show here.
And by the way, thank you folks for supporting both of us and what sponsors the show.
So what I've got is rangerdeals.com.
And if you go to rangerdeals.com, some things that might pique your interest, we've got various forms of gold and silver, goldbacks here.
We've got ivermectin for pets.
But we've also got de-googled phones.
This is from Above Phone.
And we've got these new one-acre beef sticks.
We don't sell these, but we support the company that does sell these.
These are incredibly delicious.
Really simple ingredients.
No sodium nitrite, no MSG, etc.
A lot of things here.
The Treasure Island Coins and Precious Metals Company.
These are vendors that I approve.
And they do have...
It's indicated here what they do for us, but...
Let me give an example.
Like this company, the Safrax company down here, they, for every sale that someone makes there, Safrax donates to us, to our church.
And then every time I hold a church service, I donate to the congregation.
And my congregation consists of community leaders who donate out to the community.
So I had a pallet of Safrax, $16,000 of Safrax cases of the chlorine dioxide on pallets.
And the last church service, we had community leaders loading up the back of their pickup trucks with cases of this, going out to emergency responders and people in need and veterinary rescue operations that need the sanitizing capabilities of chlorine dioxide.
So many of these things actually result in donations to the church, and then the church donates to the community.
So it's a full circle, right?
The other thing I want to mention, which is completely free, I mentioned it in the show, is our AI engine.
It's called ENOC. And you can see the note here on the right.
This ENOC engine, if you read this, it's coming out March 1st.
It's free, non-commercial, open source.
You just enter your email address here.
You can download it for free.
By the time we hit March, we will have put over a million dollars of investment into this project over the last 15 months.
Crazy.
Yeah, to create this.
But it's so powerful.
We're already using an early version of the tool in-house right now.
You'll have access to this tool free of charge on March 1st.
And this will revolutionize your life.
This can serve as a nutrition coach, a wellness coach for you.
And you can download it and run it locally with no internet required.
You can download this.
On your Mac or PC or your...
Or Linux.
Linux?
Yep.
All three.
Okay.
Yeah.
It's an LLM. It's a language model.
What about your mobile phone?
Not yet.
We don't have...
This is, I think, an 8 billion parameter model.
It's too large to run on mobile phones, but we're watching that very carefully.
What's happening is that mobile phones, because of NVIDIA, mobile phones are beginning to incorporate a lot more advanced AI chipsets.
And pretty soon, mobile phones will be able to run like 7 billion parameter models.
That's probably going to happen in a year.
It's going to be amazing.
And the mobile phones already have the memory to hold 7 billion parameters.
They just don't have the GPU capability to make the inference fast enough.
So, coming probably within a year, you'll be able to put this on your phone.
Amazing.
It's amazing.
But if you have a PC, you have a Mac, Linux, you can do it March 1st.
That's right.
And it's completely free and it's completely open source.
How long would it take to download?
Well, I mean, I don't know, it depends on your bandwidth, but it's like a 5 gig file, so it takes a little while.
It's a few gigabytes.
It's not like downloading the Bitcoin blockchain.
Oh, no, no, no, no.
You can download this in minutes, depending on your local speed.
Okay, perfect.
We use a CDN for file distribution, so it's pretty blazing fast.
Okay, great.
It's just...
I mean, Todd, and I should say, every interview that you and I have done is in this model.
Every interview.
That's dangerous.
I know.
Isn't that fun?
But every guest, actually every interview I've ever done.
Is there a warning?
Warning, you're entering the after party.
No, you'll be able to query it specifically about interviews that we've done before, and it'll have that knowledge built in.
It's really incredible.
Wow.
I love you, man.
You are amazing.
Man, it's just...
I'm telling you, you should take everything that you have, all your videos about the UNA, and you should run them through a transcription engine, get the transcription text, and then let me put it into this model.
Wow, okay.
Wouldn't that be kind of amazing?
That would be cool.
Yeah, because we're ingesting all kinds of content, even right now, every day, to add to the model as we're doing different chapters of training.
But I can still accept new content for it, so anything you want me to get into it, just let me know.
Okay.
Yeah.
Alright, so Todd, this is going to be an amazing year, an amazing time to be alive, and we have amazing guests lined up for this show.
We do.
This is not going to be a boring year for DTV. It's not.
Yeah, and I have a few surprises for you too, Mike, that I'll message you.
Okay.
Privately on, but some things that I've been working on that I think are going to really pique your interest, so we're not boring here.
No, and you know what's amazing is between the guests that you come up with and the guests that I come up with, you notice how we've never had to scramble to find a guest.
It's like we're usually overflowing with guests, like guest opportunities, right?
Well, because there are so many amazing guests out there.
Yeah.
It's just ripe.
And so many people who need a platform like ours to be able to just get their own message out.
Isn't that the truth?
Yeah.
And, you know, Zuckerberg just announcing the other day that he's dropping the fact-checking on Facebook, admitting that essentially he was wrong to censor all of us all these years.
And, you know, we've sued Facebook.
I know.
And my attorneys contacted me after that.
They're like, whoa, did you see Zuckerberg just admitted to every claim that we have in the lawsuit?
It's like, wow.
Like, how do we not win our lawsuit now?
Right.
At least against Facebook.
I mean, things are changing so dramatically.
I love it.
I feel like when our lawsuit actually gets in front of a judge, finally, the judge is going to say, yep.
You know?
Like, yeah, all your points are already admitted by all the parties that you're suing.
Wow.
Yeah.
I mean, I won't ask you to go into it now, but I'm really curious how your lawyers will use that from a judo standpoint and use that against them swiftly to hopefully make everything go a lot faster.
Well, I mean, I can't speak on behalf of our attorneys, obviously, but my guess is that when we get to the point of discovery, Facebook's attorneys are likely, at least in my opinion, going to come to us and say, How do we settle this?
That's my guess.
Mr. Adams, we've arrived at the conclusion that settle is not a four-letter word.
Yeah.
Maybe so.
But we've also sued YouTube and Google and a bunch of others, and we'll see what happens there.
But anyway, it's going to be an exciting year for decentralization no matter what.
And, you know, there's so much knowledge to get out to people.
There's so many strategies that...
Can just revolutionize people's lives like some of what we talked about today that I'm really excited about this year.
So Todd, I look forward to the next talk here.
Can't wait.
And thank you for all that you've done.
Thank you for your contributions today.
Always love doing this.
You're welcome, Mike.
Everybody watching, thank you for watching us and meeting us once a week, twice a week, however often that you feel so compelled.
Appreciate you.
Yeah, everybody, go back and check out all the previous episodes because they're really evergreen.
You can watch them at any time.
That's decentralized.tv.
And like I said, we're going to re-render those with captions coming up soon, one by one.
And so, you know, you'll gain a lot of valuable information by watching the previous episodes, that's for sure.
All right, Todd, well, have a great evening.
Thank you for sharing time with us today.
Always a pleasure.
All right.
Thanks, Mike.
Take care.
Cheers.
Thank you all for watching.
I'm Mike Adams here at brighteon.com and remember, decentralized.tv is where you can find all the episodes.