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Alright, welcome to today's interview here on Brighteon.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon, and today we're joined by one of our fan favorite guests, Michael Yon, the internationally recognized war correspondent.
He was the very first person, really, to bring mainstream attention to the Darien Gap invasion problem, where America is being invaded, and he joins us today for an in-depth discussion of many topics, including the invasion of America.
Welcome, Michael.
It's great to have you on the show today.
Thanks for having me on.
And now I'm in Argentina still and watching the world go by here.
It's quite interesting.
I see the Chinese are moving in really hard into...
I'm sorry, I'm not in Venezuela.
I'm in Argentina.
And so there's something ringing in my ears.
That's why I was slightly distracted.
And right as we started going on, somehow a call is coming in.
I don't know how it's actually doing it because everything's turned off.
But anyway, the wonders of technology.
No, you're being hit with a projection skull-piercing audio weapon system is what's happening right now.
Yeah, just like as soon as we started, somehow a magical call comes in when everything's turned off.
Watch for drones outside your window too right now, just to be sure.
Okay, so, well, it's great.
I mean, you're in the same time zone that we are right now.
That's unusual for you.
You're usually hanging out in Japan these days, it seems.
Yeah, almost the same time zone.
It's actually 522 here, so I'm way east.
East.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
Actually, you know, the most western part of South America is east of Florida.
Wow.
Like, we don't think of it that way, but you're right.
That's interesting.
In any case, so we started out talking about the Darien Gap.
You brought a lot of attention to that.
Let me ask for your reaction.
Originally during the campaign, Trump and his team were talking very tough, like, we're going to deport everybody.
The Dreamers are going to go.
We're going to deport 10 million people.
And then in the last day or two, we're starting to see a little bit of backing off of that.
Even from Trump himself, who I believe is saying, well, we're mostly going to focus on deporting the violent people.
The dreamers aren't going to go.
And the question to you is, what do you think the Trump administration is actually going to do versus the talk?
Well, I know everybody who's followed my work for many years, if they followed it for many years, they know I have a really good track record on accuracy on predicting what People will do, especially when I name their names like Jerome McChrystal or Jerome Menard or Anyway, so setting the table with that, with Trump, I think he will commit treason.
That's the bottom line.
I've said it from the beginning.
In 2016, when Newt Gingrich first reached out to me asking for support for Trump, I'm like, don't you have somebody else?
I'm not going to vote for a Clinton.
I'm not going to vote for an Obama or any of those sorts of people.
But I want somebody that I can trust, and I don't trust him.
And if he's very serious about closing the border, I and everybody in my ecosystem will stop everything we're doing to help.
And we already are.
But the bottom line is, if he's dead serious about closing this down, Instead of putting out fires, he's going to put out arsonists, right?
You got to stop the arsonists before you fight fires, fight the arsonists, right?
And the big arsonist here is the UN and the IOM, which is part of the United Nations, UNHCR, United Nations.
Go after HIAS, HIAS.org, Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society.
Of course, Trump is a Zionist, so I'm not sure if he would actually go a bridge that far.
But the bottom line is, I don't see him doing this.
I want him to do it.
He can do it.
Will he do it?
Trump pushed the jab.
Trump pushed Amendment 3, which is, you know, allowing dope dispensaries all over Florida and that sort of thing.
He's pushing Bitcoin now as a reserve.
I mean, you can't even make up this stuff.
Eric Trump was just over in Dubai pushing Bitcoin, saying he thinks it'll go to a million dollars a coin, which it may.
It may actually do it.
I saw that.
Yeah, watch the whole video.
It may actually do that.
By the way, I found that I first got Bitcoin in about 2013. I don't know much about it still, even though I've just finished reading a book on it and started another.
I still...
What I see it as is a cheese, right?
It was meant for one thing, or it was sold to be meant for one thing, which is economic freedom from the fiat and from the banks, which is a great...
I mean, that's what we want, right?
We all want that.
Anybody with common sense wants that, unless you're the banker.
But...
That's a cheese, right?
There's so many cheeses for so many traps, and this is a cheese.
And remember, greed is also a self-baiting trap, and now they're counting on greed and the ultimate Ponzi scheme ever Pumping, people are recommending people sell their gold and silver and mortgage their homes to buy Bitcoin.
That's utterly insane.
Michael Saylor is saying the government should sell all its gold and buy Bitcoin, which seems like the dumbest idea ever, but of course it would benefit and enrich Michael Saylor and his company MicroStrategies.
But let's back up for a second here.
I do want to talk to you about crypto.
But first, you know, you use the word treason with Trump about illegal immigration.
You think he'll commit treason?
I do.
Homan, who Trump has appointed to be the border czar, he seems like a very serious guy who really wants to deport millions of illegals.
And, of course, when I think of treason, I think of Alejandro Mayorkas as...
That's straight-up treason.
That's straight-up treason, right?
But I'm not sure...
I want you to further explore this.
I'm not sure that treason...
If Trump does nothing, is that treason?
If he goes back on his promises and does nothing, then we're screwed as a country, right?
Because we are being invaded, and these invaders may activate against us here one day.
But is it really treason if he just continues the status quo?
I guess it is technically still treason.
Yeah, it's treason by omission in a sense, right?
And listen, he did push the death jab, period, full stop, right?
He's never backed off of it, period.
That in and of itself, that is treason per se.
That is causing unknown amounts of death.
And he still sticks with it.
Now people say, well, don't you understand he was fooled by Fauci?
Okay, whatever.
Okay, you're going to give him a pat.
This is big boy world, right?
This is big boy world.
You would not give your 747 pilot a second chance for flying at, you know, 10,000 feet among 20,000 foot peaks at nighttime with no radar, right?
Right?
You know what I mean?
I mean, hey, you're not going to get a second chance.
You're fired.
Right?
I don't care.
Right?
And people say, well, who did you want?
Kamala?
Of course, this is the red pill, blue pill.
Take the red pill or the blue pill?
Why would I take a pill from somebody I don't know?
You're giving us a choice, a false choice, because weak people will accept The choice they think is the right choice.
Instead of saying, I will take neither, I will write something else in.
I will vote.
How about down there in Texas where you're at?
And I'm at very often.
I love Texas.
But look at Abbott.
Abbott is World Economic Forum.
Full stop.
I was saying that over and over and over when he was running against Beto and people kept saying, who do you want?
Beto?
Obviously, I don't want Beto.
But Beto is run.
Beto is...
Something that a dog left on the sidewalk, they put the dog left on the sidewalk there so that you'll vote for the ice cream cone left on the sidewalk.
You know what I mean?
They're both poisoned.
At the end of the day, they're both there for you to take one.
They're pushing you into...
Whichever one you take, they're going to be happy, right?
If the elections are even legit, I do not know.
But the bottom line is...
What do I think he'll do?
You know, as somebody who used to hunt alligators as a child and rabbits and that sort of thing, I know that they're creatures of habit just like we are, right?
And history is the greatest judge of what comes next.
Judging by Trump's actions, he will sell us out.
I hope he does not.
Homan, I know some of my friends give him the highest regards, and I hope he's legit.
I hope he's legit.
But nobody is walking in the door without being tested.
Nobody is going to be given a pass.
I mean, you've got to prove that you're actually going to start deporting, and that means closing the United Nations in the United States.
Stop funding them and get rid of them.
That's the arsonist.
They've got a huge office space down in Ciudad de Samaria in Panama City.
There's over 60 NGOs and IGOs.
And non-profits that are in there that are running these invasions, that's our U.S. Army South headquarters in the past at Fort Clayton.
Fort Clayton used to be our U.S. Army South headquarters.
Now it's all the NGO headquarters.
They fly their flag up there.
I'm there all the time.
It's right next to the Panama Canal, right next to Miraflores Locks, right?
I mean, they have taken this.
We have to shut them down.
We have to go for the arsonists.
It sounds like you're saying this is the key litmus test for Trump.
If he's legit, he's going to shut down this invasion, he's going to shut down these NGOs that are...
But look, he has threatened huge tariffs against Mexico if they don't stop the illegal invasion.
I think a 25% tariff on all exports out of Mexico.
Doesn't that show that he means business in some way about halting the flow?
Not at all.
It's bulls**t.
I mean, what about Canada?
I mean, what about the people coming in on student visas or the people coming in through Bahamas, right?
The invasions that are coming into Mexico.
That's just something else.
You know, Newt Gingrich said that recently again.
And he talked about, you know, doing tariffs on Mexico.
And I said, Mr. Gingrich, you know, I was talking with him.
I was like, Mr. Gingrich, that's not going to do it.
Listen, if you want to shut down this thing, separate from talking with him, if you want to shut this thing down, you've got to start with the people that are actually doing it.
This is international.
They're also invading Japan.
They're also invading...
Australia, they're also invading Europe and Canada.
What good is it going to do?
They'll just find routes around it.
You've got to go for the actual source.
Mexico is not the source.
I hear people all the time saying, we've got to go for the cartels.
The cartels are the ones doing it.
How about go for the ones that are actually bringing them into Mexico?
Mexico is not the ones that are getting them to land in Brazil and getting them to land in Ecuador and go through Colombia.
And then go through the Darien Gap, where the IOM or OIM, depending on your language, that are highest.
Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society helps them all, the whole route, right?
And then they finally get to Mexico, and we blame Mexico.
But they're also coming through Canada.
We were just up there looking at that.
They also come through Bahamas.
We were just over there looking at that.
I mean, they're also going into...
Go ahead, sir.
Okay, but Trump has also threatened Canada with tariffs as well.
And isn't it Mexico's obligation to control its own space to not allow its country to be used as a highway, a thoroughfare for invasion?
I mean, couldn't Mexico do something to stop these caravans?
It's not like they're hard to spot.
But why don't we go after the actual arsonist, right?
Because we could lose the Panama Canal.
Panama Canal is in Panama's hands now, but I guarantee you China is working to take it.
I think they're going to do it using Colombia and all these other things.
But the bottom line, it'll take a long time, but they're setting conditions for it now.
If you want to shut this down, you go for the arsonist, right?
Otherwise, you're doing all these tariffs around the world, whatever.
I mean, seriously, you're not even treating the problem.
You're like treating a headache by putting a gun to your head.
I mean, we need to go for the problem.
The problem are the people that are doing it, like the United Nations.
Go from them.
You shut them down and you'll shut most of it down right there.
And then start deporting people, start putting people in prison that are hiring them, and that sort of thing.
Instead of tracking down everybody who's doing it, start putting people in prison that are hiring illegal aliens, right?
And then you'll start to see an osmotic pressure out of the United States, a lot of self-deportation.
You have to set conditions.
The first thing you do is turn off the gas.
If you walk into an enclosed building and it smells like gas, the first thing you do is shut off the gas.
Oh, you don't let a match first?
Call out the fire department, or hey, let's light a match and see where the problem is.
I mean, you shut off the gas, right?
It's interesting because I know somebody who used to work in the prison system, and he asked me, this was many, many years ago when I just got out of the Army, and he said, you know, we have these threat scenarios that we hit our people with to see how they would react to it, and one of them is, you smell gas in the prison.
What do you do with the prisoners?
And I said, shut off the gas.
And he said, well, that's great because almost everybody says, get the prisoners out of the prison instead of shut the gas.
Shut the gas off.
It's like bottom line common sense, right?
I mean, why would you run around getting all the prisoners out while the gas is still filling the place up?
Yeah, no kidding.
And that's what's happening.
You've got to go for the United Nations and the highest and all these guys.
Completely agree.
And I think the other component of this is we have to end the financial incentives that exist in the United States, where even cities like New York are spending billions of dollars paying for benefits in hotel rooms and free food and whatever.
And in California, it's the same situation.
So there are all these incentives for illegals to come to the United States.
But my next question to you, Michael, is...
If California is determined...
They've been announcing, what do they call it, super sanctuary status?
Now, I don't know how that's better than sanctuary status, but they're going to go super sanctuary, and they say they are not going to let their illegals be taken away by Trump's federal agents.
At least the AG of California said that.
So how do you think that's going to go down, or is Trump going to say, we're moving on, we're not going to deal with the illegals anyway, so it doesn't matter?
We'll end up losing California.
You know, Masako Ganaha and I went to San Francisco a couple times in the last few years, publicly saying, we think China will eventually want to make San Francisco their capital in the United States, because they'll want to split off California, right?
And then later, Xi came to San Francisco, and he didn't even go to Washington.
I mean, I'm telling you, they want to make San Francisco.
I went to school in San Francisco, by the way.
I'm somewhat familiar with the place.
I'm telling you, China wants to make that their capital.
One of the ways that China operates down here in Argentina is they work with governments at local level, right?
They look like down in Tierra del Fuego, down in Patagonia, right?
They work with local governments, and those local governments have offices in China, right?
They do this all over the world.
So they'll go down and deal with the, you know, let's use American language, they'll go things down at like the city level, and the parish level, and then the county level, and then the state level, right?
So if they can't deal, so somebody high in the Argentinian government told me just last week, he said, I was in his office, he said, A lot of the things that the Chinese are doing, they don't even come to consult us in Buenos Aires.
They don't consult us at the federal level.
They're doing it at the local levels at different places.
The Chinese are, and that's the way I see them doing it all over the world, right?
They're doing the same thing everywhere.
They do these indigenous rights.
There's many people that are behind indigenous rights, but the indigenous rights are about splitting off indigenous people, for instance, down the Darien Gap, which I see it down there, I'm down with the indigenous people there all the time.
They do the same up in Canada so they can do that northern corridor with the icebreakers, with the Russians and the Chinese.
They want to deal with the indigenous people up there, not with the Canadian government, right?
But China heavily influences the Canadian government.
In fact, they're clearly going to end up in Canada with a fight between Indians and Chinese before this is over.
But the bottom line is...
This is a global war.
And you see, the idea of doing tariffs against Mexico is, like, idiotic.
And Newt Gingrich, I don't know, he might be on a call today that I'm on, right?
And if he brings it up, I'll say it to him.
I mean, the thing is, is these things are incredibly...
Important to get your shots right, right?
Because the tariffs are not going to work, period.
All they're going to do is raise our prices up and raise their prices.
I'm not saying there's not a place in the world for tariffs.
I'm saying this isn't the weapon to use in this particular battle.
In this battle, you go after the NGOs.
Now, Masako Ganaha and I, we walked into...
IOM here in Buenos Aires maybe six weeks ago or so, and we asked for a job.
And they were worried that IOM here in Buenos Aires, they said there's a hiring freeze now because they're worried that Trump is going to freeze the UN budget.
Now, that makes my heart dance.
If he just takes the United States out and stops putting any money into the United Nations, That is a major step in the right direction, and I'll give major accolades to Trump.
If he does that, then I think he's dead serious, right?
If he goes after the UN, I mean really go after him, not little pinpricks and that sort of thing.
Take him out.
But what I like about your approach here is that you do hold Trump's feet to the fire, so to speak.
You praise him where you think he's doing the right things, and you condemn him if he's doing something that you see as ineffective or completely wrong.
But back to my original question.
What's going to happen, this showdown between Trump's desire to deport illegals, especially violent illegals, some of whom are in jails in California, and Homeland Security knows who they are because they're registered with Homeland Security.
So when Trump's people, let's say early February, whatever, when they show up, In California to say, hey, we're going to take these prisoners.
Here's the list.
You know, give us these thousand violent illegals that are in your jails here.
And California says no.
What's going to happen?
Somebody's going to have to man up or you're going to lose.
I mean, at the end of the day, we're going to have to enforce our will.
At the end of the day, for the good of the country.
Now, California, I hear people all the time saying, well, we should just let California secede.
And I'm like, are you out of your mind to let California secede?
You got to be total loco.
I mean, you'll end up with Chinese bases.
Oh, yeah.
San Francisco will be a Chinese military base.
Straight up.
Absolutely.
No, you'll have a Chinese port on the West Coast.
They'll own Los Angeles.
They'll end up owning the whole West Coast, right?
All the way up through Canada and Alaska.
They'll own the whole thing.
And plus, most of California geographically is not insane.
You know, most people from California disagree with the criminals and crooks in charge.
Like the current governor and the attorney general and so on.
California is an occupied state.
It's occupied by a criminal element run by three or four key families.
The Newsoms, the Gettys, whoever.
Nancy Pelosi is involved with all of them.
Just like America has been occupied and run by a criminal cabal at a federal level, that's the same thing is true with California.
But the people of California, by and large, They don't want to go along with that nonsense.
I spent about two years in California.
I worked for Michael Jackson in California when I was in school, actually.
And I went to school in California twice, actually.
I've been all over California.
I said you left California because Michael Jackson told you to beat it.
Beat it!
I'm sorry.
I'm the only, like, ex-Special Forces guy that liked Michael Jackson.
You know what's funny about Michael Jackson is all over the world, I see kids doing moonwalking and things.
I was in Afghanistan one time.
I was out in this small village, way away from any road or electricity.
And I said, and I was talking with the village leader.
He had the long beard.
They always rubbed their beard.
I said, sir, did you know that Michael Jackson died?
And he's rubbing his beard, you know.
He's like, oh yes, we know the Michael.
Please tell your people that our people, the Pashtun people will cry one million tears for the Michael.
It's funny because Kurds will say the same thing, too.
Please tell your people that the Kurds cry one million tears for every drop of American blood.
A Kurdish guy told me that one time with his hand over his heart, just like that Pashtun man did.
Actually, you know, I'm out with those Pashtun people so much.
And, you know, I've said before, I always get along with farmers.
It doesn't even...
I can even get along with communist farmers somehow.
You know what I mean?
Because they're just farmers at the end of the day.
They're like, really?
What I want to do is be a farmer.
Yeah.
And they're tired of the communist government taking their crops.
Yeah, I'm out.
Exactly.
And I'm out with these clearly Taliban farmers.
And at one point, I'm like, why are we even at war with these guys?
They're just farmers.
You know, like farmers around the world, they want to tell you about the water, the rain this year.
They want to tell you about the price of pomegranate or something.
You know what I mean?
They don't want to talk about war.
I'm with you on that.
Okay, let's shift gears.
Now, let me ask you about this drone situation, but let me present some new information.
I don't know if you're aware of this or not, but clearly these mystery drones that have been flying around over New Jersey, New York, the ones that people see, they have FAA lights, red and green.
They've got flashing beacons.
Clearly those are U.S. government drones, at least the ones that people are seeing.
But then there's another kind of drone.
That has been reported on for many, many years.
And I'm bringing up a story right here from 2021 from the war zone.
And this really got my attention because this, from three years ago, is a story about a Tucson police helicopter that chased this mysterious drone that was hanging around and surveilling the Davis-Monthan Air Force Base in Tucson.
And that that incident was exactly like an incident that happened in 2016. So now we have an eight-year span.
And then also all across Arizona on the Air Force training grounds, F-35 pilots have reported numerous times.
Michael, what happened to that drone they were chasing?
You're like leaving me hanging on that.
Oh, well, it outran the police helicopters.
And it had no radar signature.
Wow.
See, this is a common thread that these drones that keep surveilling military bases seems to be something to do with nuclear assets.
These drones have no radar signature.
And the F-35 pilots in Arizona, this is all in the war zone, said that they were clocking these drones at Mach 0.75.
Wow.
So 560 mile an hour drones, right?
So I'm taking that they're not helicopter drones then.
Yeah, this is the big question.
And they're flying at altitudes up to 39,000 feet, right?
So these are not your ordinary, these are not Amazon.com DGI drones made in China.
There might be something else made in China, who knows?
But...
So here's my question to you, Michael.
Clearly, there has been a pattern of hundreds, if not thousands, of mysterious drone sightings over military bases in Arizona and on the East Coast, including around Washington, D.C., Virginia, North Carolina area in previous years.
F-35 pilots have reported numerous incidents to the FAA, including drone swarms of these large drones that, again, could fly at Mach 0.75.
That seems to be different from the drones that people are spotting that have the FAA lights on them.
What is your take, your best guess, at what's going on right now in New Jersey with these drones?
Let me ask you this follow-up question.
Has anybody gotten a good photo?
What they're photographing seems to be the government drones.
But are there any high-quality photos of those?
No.
Daytime or nighttime?
No, I mean, these appear to be operating at night.
Yeah.
This is a Sony Alpha 1, right?
I don't know if you've seen some of my nighttime photography from the wars, but I took some really incredible nighttime photography with cameras that are like one quarter as good as this one, like the cop actuals effect photos that I took that, you know, Uh, in Afghanistan and that sort of thing.
And I'm just curious why nobody has used, this is a Sony Alpha one.
Why has nobody used a high, there's bird photographers all over the place, wildlife for the, um, you know, there's people that could easily, they have the gear, they have the knowledge, they have the skill, they're in the, they have to be in these places.
Why is nobody getting great photos of these?
Michael, I think the answer, and I don't mean to alarm you, but from the experts that I've been hearing, is because these mysterious drones apparently have some kind of light cloaking capability.
They can seemingly vanish, and they're also invisible to radar, and they have no thermal signature.
Now, what's weird is that...
No thermal signature.
No thermal signature.
That's been confirmed by New Jersey lawmakers, former helicopter pilots, military people, You know, government leaders that are sending out their drones.
See, the U.S. government, the drones that people are seeing, I think those are naval drones.
They're trying to find these other drones.
But these other drones have no thermal signature and no radar signature.
So nobody knows where they're coming from.
Sounds wildly suspicious, doesn't it?
It does.
I don't know the answer to this.
I'm trying to get your thoughts.
Any ideas what this is?
Some sort of PSYOP is what jumps off the page to me.
Some sort of PSYOP. Yeah.
Because it's just mysteries wrapped in mysteries while we are having other things going on that are, you know, why isn't the military shot any down?
You know, why are we even spending any time on this at all?
Because this should have been solved instantly by the government.
The government should be able to easily get some of these things, right?
I mean, why is no state government, like a helicopter, get up there and use your prop wash to knock them down?
I mean, you know...
According to the War Zone, again, and this is a reputable publisher of military technology, okay?
TWZ.com.
They said that the helicopter pilots, Tucson Police Department helicopters and Davis-Monthan Air Force Base helicopters and air traffic control, they said that when they tried to engage these drones, the drones engaged in highly wild evasive maneuvers.
They couldn't get close to them.
The drones were reacting and responding, and then they would fly off with capabilities that the helicopters could not match.
We're talking about some class, and that was three years ago, and then five years before that.
So this is not your normal, you know, it's not Iran, obviously.
It's not Russia, you know.
Does China have something like this?
Sounds like, I mean, as you know, there could be multiple different things going on.
That's right.
Some could be just normal drones.
Some could be just, hey, somebody was smoking dope and, you know what I mean?
And then there's obviously light illusions that happen to the best of us.
You can – driving down and it looks like something's going up and you're really going down, that sort of thing.
And so I mean – but I don't know.
There's obviously a lot of mystery going on, but it is quite strange to me that nobody's getting great photography because there are people clearly getting some Grainy photos and whatnot, like Bigfoot photos.
What did somebody say to me earlier today?
Maybe Bigfoot just is fuzzy.
I don't know.
It's kind of a joke, obviously.
But I would imagine that, I mean, if those things come near me and I got this camera nearby, I'll guarantee you I'm going to get some good photos, unless it's just going too fast for me to get the settings right, you know?
Because I know how to use it, and that's a really incredible camera and lens, right?
And I know that there's people out there all over America with great gear and know how to use it.
Why aren't we getting it?
That's just bizarre, unless there's something else going on.
Is it possible?
Now, I saw videos of journalists from News Nation that took high-quality cameras out in New Jersey.
And any time they had those cameras...
Those drones did not come near them.
When people are out without good cameras, then the drones are like 500 meters away.
Is it possible that the drones have technology to assess who has good camera equipment?
You know, when I was in the Iraq war, we were getting hit a lot with snipers.
And they were working on technology to find, for instance, using laser technology to quickly find any glint off of your scopes, right?
Yeah.
So that we could find that they're hidden.
Because if you're hidden like two rooms back in a building, you're not going to see them, right?
Right.
And you might see their scope, though.
I don't know how good that technology might be now, but I would imagine, I mean, You might be able to do that.
I mean, you know how technology is.
It's always pretty, usually far more advanced than most of us realize.
I don't know if they could do it.
It's just, your background as a war correspondent...
And your familiarity with helicopters and rotor motion, you're actually well known for that phrase that you came up with about the glow, the glow off the rotors, right?
What do you call it?
The Cop-Echel's effect.
I actually named it.
I named it after two soldiers that were killed in the area, Benjamin Cop and Joseph Echel's effect.
So you've seen a lot of military aircraft in action.
You've been on them, around them, etc.
When our government right now, like Admiral Kirby, who is a professional liar, when he says, hey, there's nothing to it, people are just seeing normal general aviation aircraft, or they're just seeing commercial airliners, there are no drones, it's all in your head.
Do you buy that?
I mean, you just said he's a professional liar.
All else follows.
I mean, you know...
Our Navy doesn't appear to be able to defeat the Houthis, but they certainly could be used to defeat Americans.
And I've said before, I can easily see that our military being used against us, it already is.
It's just a matter of incrementally, right?
I mean, we could easily close the border.
We've got our military running off to defend Israel, not just defend Israel, but to expand Israel into greater Israel.
Right.
And I want to I'll repeat, I've said this to you before.
I know the CENTCOM commander.
His name's Eric Carilla.
I was with him in combat.
He got shot right in front of me while I was shooting at five frames a second with a cannon camera similar to this with a 50 millimeter lens.
So he's getting shot, and I happen to have my button on the thing because I'm running down this alley and we're in a firefight.
I used to keep my camera attached to my body armor like this, not with the big lens.
I always had 50mm on it, so tiny lens.
But we're in this shootout, so I just had my finger down the button and I'm running down the alley.
And Eric gets hit three times, breaks his femur in half, and I got all these photos of him getting shot, and it happened.
Anyway, I used to keep it attached to my body armor because I want to keep my hands free.
Of course.
But when I need the camera, my parachute cord, 550 cord, I had it measured just exactly.
It'd go straight to my eye.
Oh, wow.
My lift up goes straight to my eye.
But actually, I would practice so much, like with a pistol, I could focus on your face.
I could...
I can focus.
I just about wore out cameras getting, you know, so I could shoot right and get it right.
That's why if the drones come near me, I'm going to be like, got you.
But what I'm getting to is, is I was there.
I know Eric.
He got shot right in front of me.
Now he's the sitcom commander.
He's running off defending Israel, you know, fighting Israel's war for him.
And our borders naked, wide open, right?
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, all of our generals and admirals are captured.
I hate to say that about Eric because Eric was the finest combat leader I've ever seen.
And that says a lot.
I mean, I've been in a lot of combat with a lot of combat leaders who are highly competent and very good.
I've just never seen one quite Muhammad Ali like Eric Carilla, right?
I mean, that guy was pretty stunning.
I mean, he could just sense the battlefield very quickly, like, lock that down.
They're going to go that way.
Bam, we get them, right?
He was doing this stuff just all the time.
He was leading the way.
He was the battalion commander, but he was always out front.
So why is he down there?
We could close that border.
We do have people like Eric.
If you point them in that direction, say, close that border.
We'll give you the resources and get out of the way.
Close it.
That border will be closed.
We don't need tariffs.
Close the damn border.
Put the military down there.
And close the United Nations.
This is simple stuff.
This isn't rocket science.
We need somebody to analyze what the tariffs would do.
How about close the United Nations and put the military on the border?
And on Canada as well.
Canada's dead, man.
Canada's gone with the wind.
The Canada that we knew is now gone.
And that is a very exposed border for us.
It's more than 5,000 miles long.
It's a massive border.
And it's totally defenseless.
Yeah, they just lost their finance minister, Chrystia Freeland, I believe was her name.
She seemed to have an interesting coke habit, but she's gone.
So she had a coke habit, huh?
Well, I mean, she's always super jittery on camera, but whatever.
She and Trudeau probably, that's probably what they did during the off hours.
But let's shift gears.
One of the things I really like about you, Michael, is that you study history, and you take a special fascination with collapsed currencies, museums, And also bookstores.
Used books, old books.
So here, I've got a bunch of collapsed currencies right here, right?
So these are all from different, you know, Yugoslavia and whatever, all the different countries.
Hey, these are worth trillions of useless...
But you and I both, we study the cycles of history, and we have seen over and over again what happens when people push fiat currency to the limit.
Now, we've had a record quarter of government debt creation and spending.
By all indications, Trump coming into office, he's not going to have fiscal discipline, and his administration is pumping money.
Bitcoin already.
So put that together for me, please.
In terms of what you know about history, what's going to happen to the dollar if it goes in this direction and Bitcoin?
And what's the big plan here from Trump's point of view?
Yeah, what is his plan?
I mean, the dollar will eventually go to its intrinsic value, right?
And just like Which major currency will be first?
The yen?
I don't know.
Yeah, it could be the yen.
It could be the euro.
Yeah, yeah.
And, you know, Masako Ganaha, she found...
She found a museum for foreign debt here in Buenos Aires recently, and we went there.
We went to the museum.
It's not very big.
It's about three times bigger than this room that I was in, but it was closed, so figure that one out.
The museum for foreign currency is closed.
Maybe it's a budget issue, but in any case...
But because we're constantly watching these, you know, you go down to the markets here and they sell old pesos, you know, as like souvenirs and that sort of thing.
But in any case, recently, you know, I love to read old stuff, as you do as well, because we learn so much from the old work.
And, you know, President Grant, you know, he was a general grant, and then he was President Grant for two terms.
So in 1879, he was back, he was not back in Japan, he realized after a second tour of A second term as a president that the United States was really going to go super global, right?
So he did a two-year tour around the world.
And part of that was in Japan, I think about two months.
So recently, my research partner, JBS, Jew Behind the Scenes, he's Jewish.
So when he publishes on my Twitter, it's always JBS, Jew Behind the Scenes.
And so one time we were in Tokyo and he's actually smoking a cigar in this dimly lit place.
I'm like, you really are the Jew behind the scenes.
You know, because we were plotting on China some stuff, right?
And so he loves to read old President Grant as well because we learn so much from Grant.
So he found these old papers from Grant's letters when he's off in Japan.
And President Grant was writing letters to the Emperor of Japan, and he was suggesting to the Emperor of Japan, not suggesting, he was like very clearly stating in soldier words.
I love the way the old soldiers talk, just super direct.
He's like...
Whatever you do, sir, you know, to the emperor of Japan, don't, you know, avoid foreign debt.
Foreign actors are going to come here, they're going to make you fight China, and they're going to make China fight you.
They're going to make you two fight each other, and then they're going to loan you and China money, and then they're going to own you and China.
So this is Grant.
So they got these letters going back and forth between the Emperor of Japan, 1879. You got these letters going back and forth between those two, and the Emperor of Japan is expressing his thanks for this advice, and I think it settled in with him, too.
You could see the Emperor of Japan, as his letters progressed, I think that he started to realize this is a trap, and that the globalists will set this trap, because globalists aren't anything new.
Well, in particular, the Rothschilds globalists.
That's, I mean, they mastered that whole thing.
Yeah, and so that's what, so President Grant was warning him very clearly, like, whatever you do, don't take foreign debt.
And he was advising him, like, hey, the Chinese have this, you know, this, you guys gotta work out these issues among yourselves, basically, because, and then he starts going off about Yeah, real quick.
I know you've read Confessions of an Economic Hitman, John Perkins.
I have not read it.
I have it right here, though, but I haven't read it yet.
That's one of my saddest non-reads yet so far.
Yeah, that's a must-read, but it's an easy read because you know 90% of what's in that book.
But I interviewed Perkins a few years ago, and we may have him back on, actually.
But he described in particular how this model— but he worked this model as a government agent in Central and South America in particular— And it was exactly like what you said, except in the case of these countries, you know, the CIA would threaten a color revolution, an assassination, economic sanctions, if they didn't go along with the US plan, which was always rooted in debt, right?
World Bank debt.
Using special forces, actually.
They used special forces a lot, didn't they?
I think Mr. Perkins did not like special forces much, did he?
And I can understand why.
As I get older and I see and I learn more, I'm like, wow, a lot of great soldiers and SEALs, they're used in ways that if they really knew what was...
Little gears and a clock, but don't know what time it is.
I mean, these are people that are doing their best.
They're very patriotic.
They're very serious people, but they don't know the organizational structure that they serve and what it's really up to.
Yeah, true.
Exactly.
So then getting back to our topic here, though, let's shift over to crypto because you did mention Bitcoin earlier.
I agree with you that Bitcoin's probably going to pump pretty hard for a year or two, and Trump's going to point to that and say, see, we made everybody rich.
But you and I both know the history of tulip bulb mania centuries ago, and yeah, everybody who owned a tulip that cost $20,000 equivalent today, they thought they were rich.
Except tulips didn't have any real intrinsic value other than planting in the ground and growing a flower.
And eventually the whole tulip bulb mania collapsed.
So it seems to me like, I mean, I love crypto.
I love the original concept of Bitcoin, don't get me wrong.
But it seems to me like this is now being pumped into tulip bulb mania territory.
What do you think?
Oh, clearly.
Clearly.
I think there's multiple levels.
I was just talking with JBS before we went on, and I was taking some notes, actually.
I was just talking with him, and I took some notes, and we were trying to figure out which traps they're setting.
Oh.
So I was writing my notes on my old book.
On my old, this was used to wrap an antique book I bought in Tokyo.
So we were trying to figure out which traps they're trying to set with this thing.
Okay.
And so we were just discussing this.
In fact, when you messaged me, I had to hang up with him.
So this is what we were talking about earlier today.
First and foremost, Ponzi scheme, right?
And secondly, it will probably is designed, at this point at least, if nothing else, it's The whole blockchain is public.
They can trace it back to your social security number through the KYC exchanges.
It's super easy.
And then there's property transfer, because now you've got people pumping.
You should take a mortgage on your home to buy Bitcoin.
People are saying that, actually saying that.
Sell your gold and buy Bitcoin.
I mean, property transfer.
Imagine the funnel that creates.
And then just more governmental control eventually when the eventual collapse comes.
But I'm sure there's more traps.
We're trying to work this out.
We're trying to figure out, because it looks like, you know, the cheese is the Bitcoin.
The cheese itself may or may not be poisoned, but that's the cheese.
Any kind of bait will do.
It can be fish.
It can be, you know, gold.
It can be silver.
Whatever cheese.
Beautiful women have always been used as bait, right?
And whatever the bait is.
Then there's the trap.
And the Bitcoin appears to be a cheese in a mouse trap that's in a rat trap that's in a bear trap that's all set atop a tiger trap, right?
So when people keep talking about, well, you don't understand blockchain and all this stuff, I'm like, you're talking about spike proteins, man.
I'm talking about war.
You're talking about M16s and how fast the bullet comes out of the barrel.
Oh, that's really impressive.
You know how fast the bullet comes out of the barrel.
You know how many rounds a minute it can fire.
That's like blockchain talking about that.
I'm talking about the war.
I'm not talking about the little blockchain.
That's just a rifle bullet that we're talking about.
We're talking about the Air Force and the Navy.
We're talking about intelligence warfare.
We're talking about a very serious high level, and that's just a tiny part of it.
Okay, so I'm going to bring up on Amazon, let's see, Hijacking Bitcoin, right?
I know you read the book.
I did.
This is by Roger Veer and Jeffrey Tucker.
Here it is, The Hidden History of Bitcoin.
So what this book reveals, and this is becoming a very popular book, I read it a couple weeks ago.
Yeah, exactly.
So this book reveals that Bitcoin has been hijacked and turned into an artificially small blockchain, which even John McAfee opposed.
And as a small blockchain...
Bitcoin can never fulfill its original vision that Satoshi set out for it, which was everyday usage, peer-to-peer transactions among people who have self-custody and control.
Instead, because of the artificially small blockchain that's been enforced on this, you now have institutionalized Bitcoin, ETFs through companies like Fidelity and other finance giants, where people don't have custody.
They don't have their own wallets.
So you don't own Bitcoin.
You log into a website where Fidelity tells you that you have a proxy for Bitcoin and the only purpose of it is price speculation now.
You're not using it for transactions.
You don't even control it.
And you have to have permission from Fidelity to get your Bitcoin in and out, right?
So that's a complete contradiction of the original vision.
Complete contradiction.
Right.
But there was a fork of Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash, which I think fulfills the original vision more, but it's still not a privacy coin, right?
So people like Aaron Day and Roger Ver, they're advocates of privacy coins, which have built-in real privacy.
So I think that's going to be a big trend for 2025.
But it seems to me that what Trump could do is pump up Bitcoin, tell everybody, he could even give everybody a little bit of Bitcoin, like, you know, 0.01 Bitcoins for every citizen, right?
And then tell them, we're going to make you rich by pumping up Bitcoin to a trillion dollar marketplace.
And this would serve to suck the energy out of the gold market.
See, so that could be another trap.
Oh, I was just talking with a gold guy this morning, a guy that bought way more than a thousand Bitcoin himself way back when.
And in fact, he talked about how he persuaded one of his friends to buy 1,000 Bitcoins when they were $100 each, and he still has them.
So that's like $100 million.
That'd be worth $106 million right now.
I just looked at the price.
It's right here.
It's $106,487 right now, right?
Wait, he's got 1,000 Bitcoins?
He persuaded somebody, one of his friends, to buy a thousand and he still got them.
And this other guy bought a lot more than that.
I just talked with him this morning.
And so, I mean, and I'll be talking with him again tonight.
But I mean, it's quite interesting because he sees what's going on.
He's not under any illusions, right?
He's very smart about this.
But we were talking about how I think, and I think he thinks as well, that this is being used as a funnel to funnel people's Seriously, sell your gold and buy Bitcoin?
That's a huge trap, man.
Here, you can have this cheese if you put the gold on the little trigger for the mouse trap.
Take the same amount of weight of gold and put that and get it off.
That's what's happening here, man.
But anybody who does that, they're going to be left at the end of this when the rug pull happens on Bitcoin.
They're going to have no gold and no Bitcoin either.
Right.
It's just air.
It's just air.
Yeah, I mean, I would rather have...
I mean, if people are going to dump gold to buy Bitcoin, I'll buy the gold.
You know what I'm saying?
I would much rather sit on physical metal because I know it's going to still be there.
Right.
Gold.
I mean, it's funny how people are like...
Gold is a relic.
I'm like, well, give me your relics, man.
Yeah, give me your relics.
Give me that dirty gold.
Give me that dirty silver.
And you can have this nice Gresham's Law.
Here, I'll give you this nice, perfect Bitcoin.
But at the end of the day, I think it's going to...
A lot of people are going to be surprised, just like with the death jab, right?
Yeah.
And again, I want to be clear.
Neither one of us, we're not anti-crypto at all.
We use it.
We have to.
We use it, right.
You're an international traveler.
When I donate money to people, or even on some political campaigns, I donated using crypto.
Mm-hmm.
Not secretly.
I filled out the form.
Like, I donated money to Dennis Kucinich, who ran for Congress.
I donated in Bitcoin.
You know, perfectly legal.
I use my name and everything.
We're not violating FEC rules or anything.
But I use Bitcoin.
Why?
Because I don't have to mess with the silly banks and all their restrictions and everything.
So Bitcoin does have utility in its wider acceptability.
It's got divisibility and it's got instant international transaction capabilities.
But I would much rather use Monero because it's private.
You know?
And if I want a store of value, that's gold, in my mind.
I mean, you've been at museums.
Did you ever visit a museum of a collapsed civilization where Bitcoin survived?
Yeah, that's what I was going to mention on that.
Like, for instance, the Euro came out, what, January 1st, maybe, of 1999 or December 1st?
Anyway, 1999 is when the Euro came out, right?
And already people are talking about the potential...
I just finished another book, too, called The...
The Tower of Basel.
You know, the history of the BIS, the Bank of International Settlements, the most powerful central bank in the world, right?
Yeah, the Bank's Bank, the one that was really hugely behind the euro.
But now they've made gold a tier one asset at the BIS. I mean, the BIS is an incredibly powerful bank, and they're in Basel, Switzerland.
That's why the book is called The Tower of Basel, right?
And so, anyway...
And interestingly, the BIS was formed way back when to help settle the reparations from Germany from World War I.
But they worked out a system of international transactions that are like wire transactions, which hadn't really been done on any large level at that time.
So the BIS is the one that started really making this technology work between banks, right?
They've always traded heavily in gold, and they stole Czechoslovakia all their gold sort of using that wire system.
And the Bank of England helped them, and they gave it to Nazi Germany, right?
I mean, just using paperwork shuffle, right?
Sounds about right.
It was custodial gold, right?
Just like custodial Bitcoin, it was custodial gold.
They stole all of Czechoslovakia's money, gold, and gave it to Germany.
I mean, this is public stuff.
Let me actually bring it, since you're mentioning that, let me just tell our audience here how wire transfers actually work, because most people really have no understanding of it.
A wire transfer service, like what you were just describing, Michael, is simply a messaging service where both parties agree to take actions on their side.
Like, if Bank A wires money to Bank B from a specific account, Bank A just agrees to deduct that from the account, and Bank B agrees to credit that account directly.
That's all it is.
It's a messaging system.
Nothing gets transferred other than information.
Well, that messaging system, it had to be centrally controlled, otherwise everybody would cheat.
But The emergence of blockchain technology and distributed consensus, which is what BRICS plans to use, means that you no longer need a central authority to tell you who's enforcing the rules.
You can have it be distributed among multiple players, which means for the first time under BRICS, no one nation can cheat on the ledger.
That's the innovation of BRICS. It's a distributed consensus mechanism among member countries where no one country can counterfeit.
Whereas right now the dollar can be counterfeited obviously every day by the United States.
And by other people as well.
Counterfeiting foreign money has always been a weapon of war.
That's true.
I used to have a business in Poland many years ago and I had containers of product coming over to Poland And I was working on certain technological things that were minor.
It wasn't big technology.
And I needed a Polish Zloty, which was their dollars, the Polish Zloty, right?
To calibrate certain systems and things.
So I had some of those Zloty back in the United States.
And I said, when you sent, like AI just made my thumbs up thing go.
You can set off parties and things with other gestures.
You can have, like, fireworks celebrations.
Love, right.
Yeah, see what happens.
Like, start waving around randomly.
See what comes up.
Yeah, I should be careful.
Yeah, go with two thumbs up.
See what that does.
See?
Oh, my goodness.
There we go.
Look at this stuff.
Let me see if it does.
It's a party.
Now we're going off getting, now we're doing serious stuff.
We're doing, there we go.
Look at that.
Goodness gracious.
Oh, I got Michael Yon with the love meme.
The flying hearts.
Okay.
Yeah.
And fireworks.
All of it.
Can't make up this stuff.
And now we're going to start going down, what's on this thing, you know?
Yeah, but this is kind of to our point.
You got like...
See, there's a party at Michael Jan's apartment right now.
But we're talking about technology and money transfer and how that's rapidly evolving.
Go ahead.
Can I finish that thought?
Yeah.
And so I had some containers of stuff coming over to Poland.
I said, whatever you do, do not put any Zlatys into the container.
Because it's illegal to bring Zlottis into Poland, even though it's their currency.
Just like it was a death penalty to bring dinar into Iraq at some times, right?
Because foreign people would counterfeit money and then debase their currency.
That's why.
And sure enough, somebody sent some Zlotti over to Poland in one of the containers.
I'm like, the one thing I said, don't put into any container...
Is Jladi.
And that's the one thing you put in.
And they got caught.
And now I have to literally use whiskey to get my container out, you know?
And so, it's like, seriously.
But anyway, but the point is, it's like, but...
Currency debasement has been a weapon of war since forever.
So when we take Russian money, billions of dollars, the Russians will just crank it up and print a bunch of it.
They'll be like, well, we'll show you.
Okay, that's how quickly you can take our money.
Watch how quickly we just print a bunch more of that stuff.
Well, right.
Right, but that's also to my point that the BRICS system, which is an international settlement system, cannot be counterfeited by anybody, as I understand it.
Like, you have to deposit gold, 40% of it's gold, like vaulted, audited gold, and then 60% is a basket of currencies of the member nations.
Then you get issued the digital token that represents those deposits.
You can then settle with other countries using that digital token, which is called the unit, that's the BRICS settlement system.
The fact that it can't be counterfeited means it can't be weaponized by one country, which means that any nation that hates U.S. sanctions, which is everybody except maybe the U.K., they're going to switch over to BRICS because why wouldn't you?
Like, if there's a monetary system that can't be screwed with, wouldn't you want to use that system?
Yeah.
You know, when I was just recently over in Thailand, I was talking with a gold expert.
He's Thai.
And we were talking about BRICS and these sorts of things.
I said, how are they?
I mean, I can see why China and Russia always are going to have to do business with each other, of course, but they don't trust each other at all, of course, and of course, for good reason.
And so he said what they're doing, and I haven't confirmed this, but he's a pretty serious guy, but I'd have to check into it.
But he said China and Russia will use a warehouse on their border to Between, because, you know, China and Russia border each other.
And so they'll just, that warehouse will be where they'll do every, periodically, like every month or every quarter or whatever.
They'll shift, depending on the balance of trade, they'll actually shift physical gold or other assets like silver back and forth, but specifically gold.
That's right.
So in other words, they have a warehouse right on the border.
Part of the warehouse is in China and parts in Russia.
And every so often they'll be like, and here's your gold, right?
Totally.
That's right.
Totally.
That's a great idea, isn't it?
It makes sense.
I mean, This is why the central banks, especially of China, have been loading up on tons of gold for the last several years.
It allows U.S. treasuries to expire.
They're not buying treasuries again.
They're rolling that into gold because they know that with the gold they're going to be able to be issued more of the BRICS units that they can use for international settlement.
I mean, this is like the Western leaders, I think, have become so incompetent.
They have no idea what's coming.
They have no idea the dollar will be obsolete very soon because of this innovation.
You know, who wants to subject themselves to...
I mean, how many sanctions does the State Department have?
Like 5,000 different sanctions.
They sanction families.
They sanction corporations.
They sanction nations.
They use it as a weapon all the time.
And Trump thinks he's going to use sanctions as a weapon.
I'm saying that all these countries that you're sanctioning, they're not going to care.
They're going to say, go pound sand.
We don't use the dollar anyway.
I mean, it's already mostly there.
I mean, look at trade between Russia and China and India right now.
And Trump and his ecosystem are starting to use their influence to get people to funnel their gold and everything else into Bitcoin.
I wonder if this will drop the price of gold appreciably for a while.
Hopefully it'll drop it to a dollar an ounce.
If it drops gold to a dollar an ounce, I'll sell my shoes and buy it.
I'll be walking around barefoot.
You know, it's like...
Because the smart countries like India, who are getting a lot of gold from Africa, they're all buying as much gold as they can get right now.
Right.
Because at the end of the day, that's what's going to matter.
Let me plug your website.
I haven't done that yet.
It's michaelyan.substack.com.
It's where people can follow you.
Be the Americans the World Thinks You Are.
That's great.
That's a great title.
Love it.
Aikido Information War and so on.
A lot of great content there.
You're also on Twitter or X. You are Michael underscore Yon.
Y-O-N. Is there anything else you want to mention?
No, sir, except that back to the Darien Gap soon and other places.
I'm more looking at the moment what China is doing down here in Argentina and learning a great deal about Argentina because people often when I go places, they go, why are you there?
People kept asking while I was spending so much time on the Darien Gap.
Now they got screw worms coming up to America, right?
And it's a major invasion route.
I'm here because there's a big...
Big things are cooking here in Argentina.
Yeah.
Okay, well, and I want to ask you, I need to ask you about Syria.
I don't know how deep your knowledge base is on Syria, but just as context to our audience, you know, of course, Assad basically just gave up and left and flew to Moscow with his family.
Syria was instantly overtaken by what appear to be Western-backed proxy forces that used to be called ISIS. They just did a name change and a rebrand, and now they control Syria.
I mean, the guy running Syria, the State Department, still has a $10 million bounty on his head, but now they say he's progressive.
It looks like Turkey is building up troops to invade Syria, and Israel has already done an invasion with tanks headed toward Damascus.
Do you have any read on what's happening with the situation in Syria, which was a major route for Iran to supply Hezbollah, obviously?
Any take on this?
Well, the Israelis want to make...
You know, the greater Israel.
Yeah.
Which would mean taking huge parts of Syria and Jordan and the Suez Canal there in Egypt and big parts of Saudi Arabia.
Yeah, and Lebanon.
Yeah, definitely.
And so, I mean, this is doing what wars do, which we talk about many times.
Wars grow, and they grow uncontrollably, and they last longer than people expect.
Israel no longer controls the war.
Nobody controls the war because wars take on a life of their own.
They become like fires and pandemic.
They take on a life of their own famine.
When famine starts, famine grows more famine up until it reaches some mathematical tipping point.
And then, you know, locusts go away or whatever.
And and then you the famine goes away and we say, oh, we'd never do that again.
But that's what's happening with war.
Nobody controls it at this point.
Israel no longer controls other than what they decide to do with their own forces.
But even that is, you know, always subject to change, depending on what the United States does, because the blood for Israel flows.
I'm just going to call it Zion stand.
I used to be a big supporter of Israel, by the way.
I revoked that, right?
I've seen what they're doing in places like Gaza, and I will not stand with that.
And clearly, they are very predatory towards the United States.
Professional victims are always predators.
I've seen this around the world.
Everywhere I go, if you find a person Or a culture or a government that is a professional victim, it will be a predator in my experience.
I have not seen an exception to this.
And the Zionists are highly predatory.
Of course, many of the Zionists, of course, are Christians or atheists.
Actually, there's some Muslim Zionists.
When I've said that before, people are like, you don't know what you're talking about.
And I'm like, actually, you don't.
There are some.
You've met them, yeah.
And so it's not...
They use Zionism as that you're an anti-Zionist.
I definitely am anti-Zionist, right?
And 100%, right?
And...
And because they're anti-American, right?
And then they'll use the anti-Semite thing.
It's funny when somebody like Netanyahu uses anti-Semite.
He's not even Semitic.
He's not.
No, he's Polish.
He changed his name.
He self-identifies as a Jew.
He's not even really...
Is he even Jewish?
Polish people, a lot of my Jewish friends, like JBS, he gets upset if I say Netanyahu's Jewish.
He's like, no, he's not.
He's like, because JBS is straight-up hardcore Jewish, you know?
And we work together seven days.
But when it comes to Netanyahu, if you say he's Polish, now Polish people are going to write you letters and go, please don't say Netanyahu's Polish.
He's not, because they don't want to have anything to do with that guy.
That's true, yeah.
Right, nobody wants to have anything to do, even the International Criminal Court.
But yeah, it's funny, if your Jew behind the scenes says Netanyahu's not a Jew, see, that counts extra credit right there.
But look, I mean, you and I both, I think, have a similar worldview, which is We want people of every culture, every religion, every race, every ethnicity to be able to live with a sense of peace, security, abundance, and economic freedom.
And it's the governments of the world, it's people like Netanyahu or like Boris Johnson out of the UK, or many leaders in the US, Mayorkas and so on, and George Bush and that whole thing.
These people create all the trouble in the world.
They cause the wars, just like you were talking about earlier.
They cause the wars because they profit from them.
Left to just the people, most human beings get along just fine.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
That's my experience.
Actually, when I go to Korea, if you're at a distance, you'll think Koreans all hate Japanese.
You go to Korea, and they're like, no, we like Japanese.
But everybody thinks we hate them.
That's Because there's a huge information war, right?
And it's quite interesting.
The people that hate Japanese the most are actually Japanese.
And I was giving a speech in Tokyo one time, like, yeah, about, I don't know, maybe 2014, I was giving a speech to a bunch of historians and journalists and whatnot.
And I said, you know, I've been all over this world.
I'm always asking people, what countries do you like?
What countries do you not?
I go through like a bucket of questions I ask everybody, right?
And one of those is, you know, which countries do you like the most?
Actually, believe it or not, America is very popular around the world.
Strangely, still is.
The people that hate Americans the most are Americans, right?
So I'm giving this speech, and I think the speech might be online.
I said, you know, there's only three countries that hate Japan.
Do you know what those are?
And, you know, I'm asking this big audience, and people are like, Korea, China, right?
And I'm like, okay, we'll give you those.
And somebody's like, no, North Korea.
So that's the three, and I'm like, okay, just combine South and North.
And they're like, what's the third one?
I'm like, Japan.
I don't know.
I think that speech is online.
I think they gave a standing ovation.
I'm not sure, but it was a really loud applause anyway.
And the thing is, is they've been taught to hate themselves.
Their firmware has been rewritten.
We did it with our War Guilt Information Program.
It's called the War Guilt Information Program.
We also wrote out of their firmware any affinity towards gold.
They think people who save in gold are gangsters.
They've been taught that.
Good people save in yen, fiat.
That's what they say.
Just like we're taught good people put money in savings account so it can be evaporated away by inflation.
But you're a good person because you save money.
But, you know, we're not taught.
You go to Thailand and they understand gold.
Or you go to Mexico.
Mexico, they know the value of gold.
And Mexico is big on silver.
And, you know, in Thailand, it's common sense to people in Vietnam and Thailand and India.
They'll look at you like you're crazy.
India, the family bank account is the gold you wear.
You know what I mean?
That's right.
Right?
It's like you're wearing your wealth.
That's why when people are like, gold is going to go to its intrinsic value, which is zero.
And I'm like, not as long as India is around.
That's so true.
Because Chinese and Indians and most of Asia, except for Japan, are absolutely gold fiends.
They know everybody has agreed that we put value in gold.
It's a collective agreement in our collective firmware.
Plus, it has intrinsic beauty.
When you look at gold, there's something really special about that element that Isn't shared anywhere else.
So, yeah, Norusturima, I think, is the way they say it.
You have a lot of listeners in Japan.
Do I? Oh, yeah, man.
I'm telling you, man, it's weird.
Every country I go to, people are like, oh, I saw you in Mike Adams.
Every single country.
Nobody's like, I saw you on Tucker.
I saw you on all these huge shows.
Jordan Peterson.
It's always Mike Adams, Mike Adams.
It's really weird.
I'm not just saying that.
The lady, she'll see this, and she'll message to me, and she'll be like, I saw you when Mike Adams was talking about me.
Thank you for sending the message to Mike Adams.
One thing she wanted to thank me for was telling you that the information war about Nanjing was actually a huge part of that.
It's actually information war.
Yeah, I understand that, yeah.
Yeah, and you get it.
Because she watches you, and many Japanese do.
And by the way, we're going to do a bicycle trip across Japan, Misako and I are.
And so we're going to invite anybody that wants to come.
Hopefully a lot of Japanese will come with us.
Michael, let me tell you that this is fascinating.
I don't think I've ever told you this, and I haven't said this publicly.
But when I lived in Taiwan, I used to talk to a lot of the older Taiwanese who have now passed.
But I remember one man in particular, this is the man who, they survived starvation by growing gorilla gardens of sweet potatoes.
Oh yeah.
Which is why he would never eat sweet potatoes ever again in his life, because that's what kept him alive.
You told me that.
This was during Japanese occupation of Taiwan.
But the thing that actually took place during that occupation, there was a technology transfer from Japanese know-how and Japanese culture, which is a culture of precision.
It's a culture of quality workmanship.
And even this man became a woodworker, a very high-quality worker, You know, woodworker, he could build furniture and everything because of skills that were taught by the Japanese, you know, occupation forces.
The Japanese actually taught Taiwan Agriculture, how to work with wood, how to grow and harvest a forest or bamboo.
They taught them water conservation techniques.
It's really fascinating.
You say, well, Japanese, they occupied Taiwan, and you think that that's 100% negative, and it wasn't.
It's part of what made Taiwan what it is today, which is a very industrious country of great innovation.
I mean, I hope that's not too controversial to say that, but I heard this directly from people that I talked to who lived there, who lived through that.
So there you go.
Oh, Taiwan.
I've written about this.
Maybe 10 years ago.
I went over to Taiwan, researching some stuff, talking with the oldest people I could find.
And they used to call the old Taiwanese, they would call themselves sweet potatoes.
The young Taiwanese don't even seem to know about this.
But they would call themselves sweet potatoes, and they called the Chinese communists who came over after the Civil War, they called them Taro.
Because it was Taro and sweet...
Taiwan is shaped like a sweet potato.
It is.
It's shaped like a taro, right?
So they would call themselves sweet potatoes.
So the old ones.
Because, you know, Taiwanese have been there for maybe 450 years.
Nobody really knows.
But a long time, right?
The indigenous.
Yeah.
Well, then there's the indigenous, which is another.
There's at least 12 indigenous groups.
I think maybe more.
At least 12. Actually, I found a book on them.
Earlier this year in Taiwan, which I bought, it's very interesting.
It's written by a, it's from 1892. It's from a guy named McKay.
He was a dentist from Canada named McKay.
It's called In faraway Formosa, I think.
And he talks all about the indigenous people, and he talks about Japanese and stuff, and he talks about how the Chinese were using intoxicants to mess up the indigenous people and all this stuff.
And so, in any case, the Taiwanese, they called the new Chinese that came over later, they called them Taros because they're more bitter, right?
And the original, let's say, Taiwanese that have been there 450 years, They have a different culture.
They have a different firmware.
They're more like Japanese and more like, you know, Thailand and Taiwan and Japan, to me, they're quite similar.
I spend a lot of time in all of those places.
And in those three countries, Taiwan, Thailand, And Japan, they get along, look at that, like a love triangle, right?
I mean, that's those three.
They love each other, right?
And one old man that I was interviewing about 10 or 12 years ago in Taiwan, he told me that in the old days when Taiwanese people were accepted into the Imperial Japanese Army, they would have parades for them in the Taiwanese villages.
They had parades for them.
It was a great honor to be accepted into the Japanese army.
And there's still some Taiwanese that would like to rejoin with Japan, which obviously is unlikely to happen.
But there was a very significant cultural transfer and influence effect From Japanese culture to Taiwan culture, which is one of the reasons why I believe that Taiwan manufacturing became so capable, which I think led to Taiwan semiconductor leadership in the world.
I believe that is a remnant of the Japanese influence for precision.
Nobody builds more precise precision.
Electronics, engines, mechanical devices than the Japanese.
Not even the Germans.
Germans are good at building big, tough stuff at incredible expense.
But the Japanese can build precise, efficient devices and innovations at a reasonable cost.
At least that's my impression.
Would you agree with that?
Oh yeah, because when you see Taiwanese, I've often said this, they're like, They're kind of like a mixture between Thai and Japanese.
Taiwanese are special people.
Very special.
Absolutely.
They're extraordinary people.
I mean, their ability to...
But they're kind of, don't worry, be happy like Japanese are.
Like one time I was in Taiwan, I don't know, 10 years ago or so, and I was...
It was just me and a bunch of Taiwanese people in this big restaurant.
I wasn't with them.
I was alone.
And I didn't...
There were certain foods I wasn't sure quite how to eat this stuff.
And this old man, he must have been 90 years old or so, he came and he sat down beside me.
I don't understand Mandarin.
And he was showing me how to eat stuff, taking me back to the buffet, like, you know, get this and showing me how to eat it.
It was like that all the time, man.
I love Taiwanese people.
I mean, they're just like, that guy doesn't know what he's doing.
Let me go help him out.
And...
And so they're kind of a combination of that precision Japanese, like, get it right, and also don't worry, be happy Thailand.
And then they're just, I don't know, they're special.
They're extraordinary people.
I'd take every one of them in the United States.
If you're going to open the Darien Gap, I'd be like, just give us all the Taiwanese.
Yeah.
Well, I have great admiration for the Taiwanese people as well as Japanese and the South Koreans are very, very capable people as well.
I feel sorry for the North Koreans having suffered under that system because they're genetically identical in essence.
I mean, that's what happens when you're under a dictatorial, tyrannical regime for generations.
It saps the life out of your culture.
But, Michael, we need to wrap this up.
Any final thoughts here before we...
We put an end cap on this.
It's been a fascinating hour, that's for sure.
We need to go for another hour.
We could.
I feel like we could always do that.
I love coming on with you, Michael.
Because you know...
Like, your depth of knowledge is so high, you know what questions to ask, like, and it's unbelievable.
I learn a lot during our interviews, actually.
So, I'm interviewing you, actually.
One of the things that you just said, and I'll be really quick, I know you want to go, but, like, for instance, it's the same genetics, right?
And I noticed that everywhere.
It's about the firmware.
Like, it's not that Chinese are bad.
I'll take every one of those Taiwanese people, except for the communist ones.
I don't want them.
But the Taiwanese in general, they will make great neighbors, right?
I mean, intermarry with them.
Everything else, they're great people.
And the firmware, their cultural firmware is quite good.
But then, same genetics, same Mandarin language over with the Han Chinese.
It can be a little tough, you know what I mean?
Totally, yeah.
To put it mildly.
So it's not the genes.
And it's not that at all.
No.
And so, this is the thing.
I see this all over the world.
People will make these blanket statements like, well, the Chinese are such and such.
I'm like, actually, it's their firmware.
And if you can, you know, like, look at East Germany versus West Germany.
Yeah, like East Germany versus West Germany.
East Germany, the communist thing, and I was over in East Germany.
I'm like, you don't want to be around a bunch of East Germans at that time.
They were kind of problematic.
The West Germany was great.
And anyway, I'll be quiet.
I know you want to go, Michael, but it's great talking with you.
Hey, you too, Michael.
Look, I always enjoy our conversations.
I just want to remind people to visit your website, which is michaelyan.substack.com is probably the best way people can find you there.
And do you...
You need to put a donate button, I think.
Is that possible here?
I know you take donations, and you don't plug a bunch of stuff.
How can people donate to you?
Actually, I'll put it on the top of my X shortly.
I should.
I'm very bad at fundraising, and fundraising is how I do on my operations.
I know, I know.
The thing I'm worst about.
I'm trying to help you a little bit there.
Thank you, sir.
I'll put it on.
I'll talk with JBS about that.
Oh, so the Jew behind the scenes is the guy who handles the money.
Is that what you're saying?
No, he doesn't handle the money.
He doesn't handle the money at all.
He doesn't touch that.
Oh, okay.
But I ask him to help me run these websites.
That's why he publishes on my...
On my Twitter, under JBS. Anytime you see JBS, that's Jew behind the scenes.
He doesn't do any of the monies, though.
Oh, okay.
That's too bad, because you almost had a living cliche right there.
Yeah, exactly.
I got a Jew behind the scenes that handles the money, you know?
But...
Actually, I have to pay him.
That's perfect.
He's going to watch this and go, what are you talking about?
He's going to write me a nasty message.
All right.
No, we appreciate you, JBS. Keep up the great work and get some quality cigars.
I got a cigar hookup for you here in Texas.
If you ever come to Texas, you know who I'm talking about.
He gets them from the best place that I shall not mention.
All right.
But, Michael, it's been great.
Thank you so much for joining me today.
All right, sir.
Thank you, Michael.
Talk to you soon.
You too.
Take care now.
All right, that was Michael Yan, everybody.
What a great conversation.
That man has a lot of knowledge about the world, and I learn something every time that I interview him.
So again, check out his website, michaelyan.substack.com, and be sure to check out all the other interviews we've got for you at brightyan.com.
And thanks for joining today.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brightyan.
Take care.
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