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Dec. 4, 2024 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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BBN, Dec 4, 2024 - SHOCK DOCTRINE - 2025 to be characterized by volatile, unpredictable events
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Welcome to Brighton Broadcast News for Wednesday, December 4th, 2024. I'm Mike Adams.
Of course, thank you for joining me today.
I've got a couple of special reports for you.
And then we're going to have a really fascinating interview with author Joseph Lumpkin, who's the author of books like the Books of the Apocalypse, the Lost Books of the Bible, the Lost and Rejected Scriptures, the Books of Enoch, the Book of Giants, the Complete 70 Book Apocrypha.
Including the writings of the Apostolic Fathers.
Yeah, okay.
Interesting stuff.
But we got a chance to interview Joseph Lumpkin, and that was really fascinating because, well, he and I both have a background as, you know, scientists, and yet we're both very interested in Scripture and hidden history and so on.
So you are, I think you're going to be really intrigued by this interview.
Yeah.
Before we get there, let me mention this.
Representative Thomas Massey, who is a pro-liberty guy, grows a lot of his own food.
He's been recommended for the USDA. He is also recommending a new constitutional amendment.
And he wants it to say, the right of the people to grow food and to purchase food from the source of their choice shall not be infringed.
And Congress shall make no law regulating the production and distribution of food products which do not move across state lines.
Yeah, that's a great idea.
That's a great law.
It should be in the Bill of Rights.
But why stop there?
The right of the people to choose their own form of medicine.
Yeah.
Also shall not be restricted and Congress shall make no law that restricts the practice of medicine as defined by the people who want to pursue it.
I mean, what is medicine?
Medicine could be a thousand different things.
But why should medicine be licensed by the government and then, of course, shoved down your throat by the government as we saw during COVID? We need a health freedom constitutional amendment, and we need a food freedom constitutional amendment.
Absolutely.
We need the right to practice medicine, including Chinese medicine, alternative medicine, herbal medicine, homeopathic medicine, all kinds of things, chiropractic medicine, you name it.
And when you start to think about this list, like, gosh, we need to have all these rights protected.
You realize the best answer to all of this is just end the federal government.
It's like, oh, you want to protect all your rights?
Just shut the whole thing down.
End the FDA, end the CDC, end the DEA, end the ATF, end the FBI, end the IRS. And like, wow, we got all our freedoms back.
You don't even have to list them.
We don't need to enumerate all the freedoms if you just eliminate the form or the source of tyranny and authoritarianism, which is the federal government, and I guess to some extent state governments as well that are going after, you know, Amos Miller for raw milk or they're going after, you know, medical licenses, you know, the state medical boards are going after a lot of doctors.
You know, why should we have to petition the government through laws to say, you know, stop violating our medical freedom, stop violating our food freedom, stop violating our self-defense freedom, all these things, you know?
Shouldn't come down to that.
We shouldn't petition the government to stop treating us with a form of tyranny, you know?
It should be by default.
We the people.
We the people are in charge here and we grant limited rights to a small government To defend the border, which is one thing they are not doing.
And it's like, what's the whole point of the federal government?
It's just a criminal cabal at this point.
It's a giant money laundering cartel.
It's a looting criminal operation is what the federal government has become.
There is no federal agency, other than I'm thinking, you know, the FAA, that helps the American people in the aggregate.
It doesn't exist.
The federal agencies, they harm America.
They are parasites on America.
They can't be trusted.
They've all been weaponized against the American people.
And ultimately, you know, the collapse of the U.S. empire is coming.
And it's a sign of, you know, the revolutions of the ages or the forth turning, you know, the cycles of civilization rise and fall.
And, in fact, my first special report here is on that very point.
I'd like to play it for you here.
It's called Expect the Unexpected, reframing shock events as part of the process of dismantling a broken, corrupt system.
And this special report talks about how when you experience really crazy, unexpected events...
Starting now or in 2025, don't fret.
Don't panic.
Recognize it as part of the process of tearing down and ultimately replacing or transcending a broken, corrupt system of government parasites and a criminal cabal pretending to be your rulers.
So let's go to that special report now.
We'll be back on the other side.
So 2025 and even the rest of December here is going to be characterized as a time of extreme volatility and sudden events that shock the world.
A time of extreme instability.
We just saw this with South Korea, the president declaring martial law, seizing control of the entire media.
And then the parliament in South Korea voting within hours to say no to the martial law.
And then the South Korean military breaking the windows and breaking into the parliament building.
Apparently, they were given orders to arrest the lawmakers there.
But then, you know, the currency started to collapse.
A bunch of financial fallout began.
And I don't know what happened behind the scenes, but then the South Korean president Came out and declared the martial laws lifted.
It was like a 12-hour panic or something.
So that is exactly what 2025 is going to look like.
You're going to see unexpected events set off chain reactions that we cannot anticipate.
You're going to see volatility through the roof.
And this is why people who know that this is coming, like I just recently interviewed Michael Yan, and he knows this is coming too.
People who know what's coming, right now they're rushing to safety.
They're rushing to certainty.
Like financially, they're buying gold.
They're buying gold more than Bitcoin.
Because, you know, Bitcoin, yeah, it'll probably go up, but there could be massively volatile, unpredictable events that affect Bitcoin.
You know, huge swings up or down.
Gold is going to be the safe haven for financial concerns.
But even geopolitically, we are all going to find ourselves thrust into events way beyond our control.
We're going to suffer psychological whiplash in 2025. And there's so many things in the world on the verge of breaking right now.
Like, could be Russia, could be Iran, could be Israel, could be Syria now, could be China and Taiwan, could be currency wars, could be martial law just out of the blue.
Boom, you wake up and, hey, martial law, you know?
There could be a coup attempt against Trump.
By the woke military.
I mean, who knows?
There could be a deliberate engineered banking collapse just, boom, overnight.
You wake up, your money's just, ah, no longer accessible.
Yeah.
Hence, another reason to have gold in your possession, because it doesn't just digitally vanish, you know?
But 2025 is going to be the year of shocking events.
Shock doctrine.
You know, part of that is to scare people into obedience and compliance.
A part of it is to create opportunities for the deep state to profit from the chaos.
As they say, never let a good crisis go to waste.
Yeah, well, they get to cause the crises.
And then they take advantage of them to shore up their own power and control.
So this is what's going to characterize 2025. And in this podcast, I'm not just, you know, warning about this, but also I'm going to try to give you some tips and some preparedness advice.
I mean, psychological preparedness of how we can be ready for this.
So one of the big things is going to be the psychological anchors.
Where do you find psychological anchoring?
Some people find it in relationships, perhaps with a spouse or with family members.
But a lot of families were torn apart by the COVID lies and also politics.
You know, most families have had some kind of split of Democrats versus Trump supporters, etc.
And so often you can't rely on your family.
You know, your circumstances may vary, but that's a very common phenomenon today.
So what about faith?
What about faith in our Creator, however you express it?
Faith in our Creator, I believe, should be a very important anchor point in your life.
Understanding that you are here for a purpose, understanding that your life is not an accident, and that God or our Creator, however you describe our Creator, wants you to be here right now in this time.
And that I believe that your soul actually chose to be alive during this time as well, which may be one of the most challenging times in human history.
So why are you here?
Why did God feel that you were up to the task to be here?
Why did you agree to be here?
I think a part of your soul agreed to be here.
And the obvious answer is because you are capable of handling it.
You are capable.
You have the resources to be able to navigate this and you're here for a reason, I believe, to also help others navigate this.
I know that's why I'm here.
To help people navigate this, to help spread truth, to help create tools that can allow people to uplift others and conserve and multiply human knowledge.
These are the kinds of reasons that I believe I'm here.
And whatever reasons you're here, think about those right now.
Think about the fact that there is a creator.
This universe is not an accident.
And probably we are not alone.
Just to throw that in there, too.
You know, human beings are not the only intelligent creatures in the cosmos.
Well, obviously it's more than humans just on Earth, but I mean, planet Earth isn't the only planet with intelligent life.
That's also pretty obvious.
So it's a much bigger cosmos than what we deal with day to day.
So that brings me to my second point here, which is to keep it all in perspective.
Perspective.
Here's a really useful way to think about all of this.
I believe that this 3D physical world is a simulation, but a simulation created by God.
Not a simulation that's running as a digital video game created by a hyper-advanced extraterrestrial civilization.
I think God created the cosmos, but this 3D space is one of God's simulations, and there are many, probably a multiverse of them.
And in this simulation, your soul is injected into this physical body for you to sort of play the simulation, which is what life is.
And during that process, hopefully learn what you're here to learn, achieve what you're here to achieve, to discover who you are.
And to prove your worthiness with spiritual merit, after which we are judged or scored according to what we've done on this planet.
And that's described in every world religion.
It's described in Christianity.
It's described in Buddhism.
It's described in Islam, and so on.
There's a judgment.
There's a score, in essence.
And whether you believe that or not, it's a very helpful way.
I believe it, but I think it's also a helpful way to look at the world here, which is to realize that That there's a greater reality after this reality.
So, in other words, just the other day, NASA announced that there was an asteroid that's going to hit the planet within hours, and they just discovered it.
It turns out it's only two feet wide, you know?
So, it's like, why are you even bothering to mention this?
Two feet wide?
It's going to burn up in the atmosphere.
It's not even going to hit the planet.
So, like, what's the point?
Well, you know, they're just trying to freak people out, I guess.
But suppose NASA announced instead that there's an asteroid that's two kilometers wide that's going to hit the Earth.
Well, if you think that life is all there is, then you're going to panic and freak out.
You're like, oh my God, my life's going to end and then it's just nothing and this is the end of everything.
And that's not a really healthy response.
But if you understand, this is a simulation, man.
The real world is beyond this.
My real home is in a realm beyond this.
A dimension beyond this.
A dimension that sometimes is given the name heaven, by the way.
But that a two kilometer wide asteroid slamming into planet Earth can't destroy your soul.
It can end your physical life, you know, probably in an instant.
But it can't destroy your soul, and it doesn't take you away from your life's goals.
And you don't have any control over a two-kilometer-wide asteroid hitting Earth anyway, so there's no point in fretting over it, and it's not the end of you.
So that perspective can be rather comforting.
It's like, hey, it's not the end of you.
Whatever happens on this earth, this is the testing ground.
This is the simulation.
This isn't even the real world.
Okay?
This is like living in the matrix.
You know, what happens in the matrix?
It seems real when you're in it, but it's not actually real outside the matrix.
So keep that in mind.
No matter what happens, don't panic over it.
Now, another perspective to keep in mind is that The volatility that we're about to go through, this is a set of birthing pains to get us to the next society.
In other words, you know, we've lived in a system that's totally corrupt.
We've lived with counterfeit currencies since 1913 and the creation of the Federal Reserve.
And we've lived with, you know, rigged elections and a rigged justice system and just...
War profiteering around the world and the military industrial complex, you know, and the CIA running psychological operations against the American people.
We've lived with all this for a long time.
Our whole lives.
Well, what does it look like when that ends?
It looks like volatility.
It looks like chaos.
It looks like dismantling the existing systems.
And will there be some discomfort?
In that chaos, will there be some, maybe a little bit of fear?
Absolutely.
Because of uncertainty.
If the world is changing, then it's uncertain.
You know, some people love the certainty of the current corrupt system, and they don't want to give it up.
They cling to it.
You know, like the NPCs in The Matrix, they cling to it.
They're like, we love The Matrix, you know, it feels comfortable here.
The soup tastes good.
Good noodles.
But the rest of us are like, no, I want to be red-pilled.
I want to know what's happening and let's revolutionize this whole system as best we can.
And let's transcend this system.
And in order to do that, we're going to have to live through the tearing down of the system.
That's going to cause chaos.
That's going to have some unpredictability.
And in some people's minds, it's going to be, you know, fearful.
It doesn't have to be fearful for you, though, when you recognize it as part of the process of the tearing down and rebuilding.
And that's my point here.
This is what tearing down and rebuilding looks like.
It's exactly what it looks like.
So don't be, you know, freaked out by it.
It's like, this is entirely expected.
I mean, think about what's it going to look like when the dollar collapses?
Yeah, people are going to freak out.
Everybody's going to panic.
Oh, there goes your pension, you know.
People are going to freak out.
But long term, in order to achieve human freedom, we have to be free from counterfeit currency that's centralized and controlled by a corrupt criminal government, don't we?
So the dollar must be dismantled one way or another, or it must be allowed to collapse in order for human freedom to emerge, which would look something more like a decentralized monetary system.
Maybe a blockchain-based system, maybe something like Bitcoin, maybe a gold-backed Bitcoin, but something decentralized.
You know, the era of counterfeit fiat currency, I think, is coming to an end because it's just a scam.
It's a ripoff, and ultimately the currencies fail.
And think about how the U.S. government has weaponized the dollar printing in order to fund all of its wars and psychological operations and COVID-pandemics and COVID disinformation, deceptions, and all these things.
That was all because of money printing.
You take away money printing from the government, all of a sudden, government has a very hard time being weaponized against you.
So we should celebrate the collapse of the dollar.
This is kind of the final perspective in all of this.
Don't fear change.
Don't fear volatility.
Celebrate it as the process of change.
When the dollar collapses, I'm going to call it World Freedom Day.
You might say, well, gosh, when the dollar collapses, people are going to be hurt financially.
It's going to be horrible.
People are hurt financially every day, right now, from money printing.
The dollar is a weapon.
Ending the dollar...
Yes, may cause short-term pain, especially for those who don't know what's about to happen.
But long-term, it's freedom.
Ending the dollar should be one of the key goals of human civilization, which also means ending the current U.S. empire.
But it doesn't mean the United States has to die.
It just means it has to be reformed and resurrected, which I believe that process is actually underway.
That's underway right now, and I think the Trump election victory is one indication.
I'm not saying that Trump is our savior, by the way, and I'm not saying I believe all the white hat QAnon theory stuff.
I'm just saying that this is part of the process.
It looks like this.
How many people do you know now who are ready to tear down the old system?
I mean, think about it.
The guy just nominated to run the FBI, Kosh Patel, he's the guy who said we need to tear down the FBI. Like, when has that ever happened before?
And RFK Jr., if he ends up running HHS that he's been nominated for, I mean, half of his goal will be to tear down HHS and the FDA and the NIH and the CDC. I don't know if he'll achieve all that, but at least he has that understanding that that's a necessary part of this process.
So, you know, keep all that in mind, too.
These are different times from what we've lived through.
That's my point.
You think the world is all predictable and the future is going to be like the past?
Think again.
2025?
You know, there's a reason why I predicted years ago, I said the United States of America will cease to exist as we know it by the end of 2025. And I think I started making this prediction, I don't know, in 2016 or 17 or something like that.
It was, maybe it was 2014. I've been making this prediction for many, many years.
Because I could kind of see the convergence and the fourth turning and the revolutions and the generational shifts and so on.
2025 is going to be a pivotal year where things change beyond the ability of most people to even imagine that change.
The future that we're going to live in will not resemble the past in so many significant ways.
It will be, in many ways, unrecognizable.
And that is a good thing.
The old system needs to go.
The old system is broken.
It's corrupt.
It's fraudulent.
It doesn't work.
It feeds off of human suffering and war and globalism and depopulation and psyops and false histories and fake corporate media news and all of that.
That system has got to go.
Dismantling that system has begun.
You're part of it.
I'm part of it.
You know, they tried to silence all of us and they failed.
We kept building the future together.
Like I'm building a new AI engine that's just going to be mind-blowing, revolutionary.
You can sign up for it, by the way, at brighteon.ai.
It'll be free.
Brighteon.ai.
We released old models last year that were just kind of, well, not that great compared to what's coming.
Let me tell you that.
What's coming is mind-blowing.
It will change the world.
And revolutions in decentralized finance and decentralized food production and farming and medicine, decentralized knowledge...
These revolutions are now just reaching maturity.
I mean, this is a breakout moment for the human spirit, for human civilization, for human knowledge and technology.
And so many of the lies of the past are just going to be peeled away.
We've been living in a Truman Show.
We've been living in a false reality.
History is fake, what we've been taught.
You know, the science is fake.
Medicine, fake.
Pharma, fake.
News, fake.
Money, fake.
Elections, fake.
You've been living in a Truman Show, and it's all going to be revealed.
The revealing has begun.
We've already just seen the congressional report talking about how all of COVID was fake.
The masks, fake.
The lockdowns, fake.
The jabs, the government disinformation, psyops.
This was all acknowledged now.
By the U.S. House of Representatives.
I mean, wow, did you think you would live to see that?
My, how times have changed.
So, don't fret about big change, about chaos, about volatility.
Look at it and understand that it's worth celebrating.
When crazy things happen in the world, just understand, oh, that's part of the process.
This is what radical reform looks like.
It's perfectly normal.
In fact, I think we should celebrate the radical changes because, you know, earthquakes, they will rearrange the geography of the planet.
They'll create a whole new continent or a new mountain range sometimes.
And when that happens, you know, it's pretty volatile.
The ground is shaking and it's rattling your bones and knocking you off your feet.
But when it's all done, you're like, hey, a new mountain range.
Wow, that's...
New coastline, wow, new volcano, new island.
Huh, that's amazing.
That's kind of, that's a good metaphor for what we're going through.
So, let me say this.
Naturalnews.com.
We're about to revolutionize our content publishing.
It's going to happen in the next week.
We'll be publishing four times a day and covering a lot more news.
And we have developed a lot of in-house technology to help us with this.
Some of it AI augmented, by the way, to speed our process.
So we're going to be doing a lot more publishing, covering a lot more news sources, covering a lot of books, a lot of hidden information sources, lost PDFs, like once secret government documents, things like that.
So be sure to check naturalnews.com at least a couple times a day starting next week.
Brighttown.com is going to have a major upgrade in the next couple of months.
We are resolving some data structure issues for scalability, but once that's done, we're going to roll out a new upgrade maybe in December, maybe January.
And that's going to be a whole new enhanced video experience and streaming experience.
A lot more people will be streaming on Brighttown because of that.
So check that out, Brighttown.com.
We're going to continue to fund and build out brighteon.social, the social media site, brighteon.io, the decentralized social media site, as well as brighteon.ai, the large language models with the new engine coming out in 2025 with a whole new name, just revolutionary technology that's just going to blow your mind.
These will all contribute to the quickening of human knowledge and human revolutions and human freedom.
That's why we are here.
That's why I'm here.
This is all part of that process.
And through my church, the Church of Natural Abundance, we are going to be making more donations and helping more people in need and using the gifts of financial resources and food abundance to help as many other people as possible along the way.
Everything that we're doing is guided by our creator, I believe, and it's in alignment with team humanity and the uplifting of the human race and the revolutionary time that we are going through, which will see a new America, you know, the next society, I've called it.
The old society is crumbling.
It's collapsing.
We get to build the next society.
That's why it's important for us to be here and to be healthy and to be informed and to be free and to understand the importance of decentralization, all these things.
Let us not build back the same corrupt government control system that demands our obedience and enslavement to a confiscatory taxation, tyrannical system.
Heck no, man.
We're done with that.
When we build the next society, it needs to be decentralized.
It needs to be rooted in libertarian principles.
It needs to be rooted in ideas of really anarchism, which doesn't mean anarchy per se.
It just means that there's no overlording government authority that determines how we can live our lives.
Freedom, in other words.
So there's a lot to ponder here, but stay informed.
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Be ready for what's coming and reframe the volatility as opportunity, and you'll be much happier because it's going to get wild.
Thanks for listening.
Take care.
Alright, welcome back.
Hope you enjoyed that report.
Now, I've got another special report for you called The Collapsing U.S. Empire Trying to Cripple Other Nations to Stay on Top.
And this is kind of a sad thing that the U.S. empire is doing.
Instead of working to compete with other nations based on merit, even Trump is threatening to weaponize the financial system, weaponize sanctions, and coerce or cripple other nations to weaken them.
So that the US can try to stay in a dominant position on the world stage.
And that's never a good sign when your empire ends up in that situation where you can't really compete based on You know, industry or ideas or manufacturing or efficiency or exports, whatever.
The only way you can compete is by just, like, you know, shooting your neighbors and crippling them or beating them up with baseball bats or whatever, which is metaphorically what the U.S. empire is doing to other nations around the world.
You know, to bring them down to our level.
It's like, so we can stay on top.
Let's blow up the Nord Stream pipeline, which is what the U.S. Navy did.
And that way, Europe won't Dominate industry.
Their industry is dead because we blew up Nord Stream, so they have no energy.
Yeah, that's what the U.S. does.
The U.S., as it has been run, is a global terrorism empire focused on sabotage, coercion, deception, and weaponization of a fiat currency.
Yeah.
Now, that's not sustainable, so it won't be that way forever.
And hopefully we can change this whole system into something that's got more, you know, ethics.
But there's a collapse that's going to happen in that transition.
So check out this special report, the collapsing U.S. empire trying to cripple other nations to stay on top.
And we'll be back on the other side with today's interview.
Your economic world is going to get rocked in 2025. As Trump gets sworn in, he's going to unleash these tariffs.
And this will have such an impact.
Most of the things that you buy that are imported will go up significantly in cost.
Some of them will double in cost.
Everything from appliances, electronics, computers, monitors, telecommunications equipment, medical equipment.
I mean, your hospital bills are going to go even higher.
And this is because Trump is threatening to put a 100% tariff on all the nations that are joining BRICS. And that would be China.
That would be Brazil.
India.
Those are probably the top three trading partners that will be impacted by this.
But there are a lot of other countries that will be impacted, but they're not huge trading partners with the U.S., such as Russia or North Korea or what have you.
But those big ones, China, India, Brazil, major trading partners with the United States, Trump's going to slap 100% tariff on all the exports from those countries, or at least he has threatened to do so.
This is, of course, an expression of extreme arrogance, a delusional desire to maintain U.S. dominance over the world, to bludgeon and threaten everybody into obedience to the dollar, obedience to the U.S. empire.
This is wishful thinking, and it's going to fail.
The U.S. empire is a collapsing empire.
Its military is collapsing.
Its technology lead is diminishing.
It doesn't have hypersonic missiles that work, for example.
The dollar is losing value every day.
More and more countries around the world are abandoning the dollar in their own trade.
Countries like Russia, China, and India are carrying out most of their own trade With non-dollar denominated currencies.
And on top of that, the U.S. barely manufactures anything anymore.
It doesn't have a strong industrial base.
It doesn't have a strong domestic steel economy.
The U.S. is...
Actually, this is in the collapse stage of the empire.
And it's very common in the collapse stage of empires that these empires resort to threats and bludgeoning their neighbors and trying to bomb them or invade them to try to get them to do what they want.
And that's the stage that the U.S. is in.
Notably, the U.S. led all of these sanctions against China's tech industry, especially the silicon wafer manufacturing technology, the lithographic chip making equipment, China has been banned from receiving any of that equipment from any of the other trading partners around the world.
This is an effort by the U.S. to cripple China's ability to build mobile phones, to build AI computing devices, microchips, you know, GPUs, all these kinds of things.
And this effort is just vindictive.
It's like the U.S. empire realizes that it can't compete with China, and it can't compete with Europe, and it can't compete with Russia, and so what the U.S. does is just runs around the world Destroying everything, terrorizing everybody, issuing sanctions, blowing up the Nord Stream pipeline, starting a new war in Syria, you know, provoking Russia into war.
This is what the U.S. Empire does.
Instead of learning to compete with other nations and sort of outperforming them, you know, out-innovating other nations, out-producing, no.
The U.S. just runs around as a global terrorist.
Crippling other countries to try to bring them down.
It's kind of like, what was that case back in the 1980s or 90s?
Tonya Harding, the Olympic skater, and allegedly, I think it's more than allegedly, but I think her boyfriend took a baseball bat to the knees of her competitor.
To try to cripple her knees so that Tonya Harding could win gold?
I believe I have the right name and the right details.
At least that's my memory of it.
But that's what the U.S. does to other nations.
Like, we're going to take a baseball bat to your knees.
Instead of saying, hey, let's all trade with each other and let's compete based on merit.
Let's see who can build the best microchips.
Let's see who can build the best technology.
Let's see who can, you know, have the most efficient industrial output, etc.
Instead, you know, the U.S. just bludgeons everybody.
Well, this is going to backfire in spectacular fashion.
So this is already soon to be President Trump's worst mistake yet.
He will make many mistakes.
Trust me.
But this is a bad one.
He is overzealous and overconfident in the position of the United States.
And he thinks that the U.S. can still dictate to the world all the terms of finance and banking and international settlement.
And that's just no longer the case.
But he thinks it is.
And a lot of his cabinet members and nominees, they also think it is.
So they're going to roll out these tariffs, I would imagine.
And then the backlash is going to begin.
And what's going to happen, as China just announced, China just announced this, because of Trump's 100% tariff on China, China is going to accelerate its adoption of BRICS. It's not going to...
You know, surrender to the U.S. Oh, we're sorry that we thought maybe we would have an alternative currency.
We're so sorry.
We're just going to go back to using the dollar so that we can be subjected to your sanctions.
No, that's not what China said.
Although they would say that in Chinese.
Yeah.
I don't know how they say Trump in Chinese or his name, but believe me, in China, they're like, the Americans are freaking bonkers.
They're not going to bow down to the dollar.
So they're doubling down, tripling down on their adoption of BRICS. Why?
Because under the BRICS system, it can't be weaponized.
Under the BRICS system, they can trade with any country that also uses BRICS, and there can be no sanctions.
It's one of the founding principles of BRICS. It's also built into the structure, the distributed structure of BRICS. No nation can weaponize the entire system against other nations.
It doesn't function that way.
So China's just going to hurry up with BRICS. Let's get that going.
Same thing with Iran.
Same thing with Brazil.
Same thing with Russia.
You know, who wants to use a weaponized currency?
And why should other countries be forced to use the dollar anyway when the dollar loses value faster than anything else right now?
When the dollar can just be counterfeited by the U.S. and the Federal Reserve?
Why should anybody trust the dollar?
The dollar is counterfeit.
It's It's fake currency.
And if you trust the dollar, you know, you're a fool.
So the backlash has already begun.
China saying, we're just going to accelerate our adoption of BRICS. And if these tariffs go into effect, then China's exports will be significantly impacted.
There will be a strong economic cost to China.
But there will be an outcry in America as all the prices of Chinese goods double.
And then China has retaliatory weapons.
China can start dumping U.S. Treasuries.
They still have hundreds of billions of dollars of U.S. Treasuries.
What happens if they just dump them on the market?
Well, you know, Treasury values plummet, meaning that the U.S. Treasury would have to offer much higher interest rates.
On treasuries in order to entice somebody to buy them, and probably nobody would want to buy them, and so you'd end up with the Federal Reserve printing the money to buy the treasury debt, which it's already doing, but that would accelerate.
On top of that, China can decide to block its own exports of critical resources, such as rare earth minerals.
No rare earths for you.
No soup for you.
They can block exports of key electronic components, all kinds of things.
Or pharmaceuticals.
Did you know that a lot of pharmaceuticals sold in America come from China?
I mean, it might even be the majority of them.
It's a huge number of pharmaceuticals.
So China can just say, well, you know, guess what?
You want to play trade war.
We'll just block all pharma exports and then you guys can suffer through all your drug shortages, which would actually probably improve the health of the American people.
But Trump wouldn't like that.
Or China can also say, well, okay, if you're going to block off our exports, we're just going to seize Taiwan.
Which is probably what the U.S. wants China to do because the U.S. wants to die in a blaze of glory in some final naval battle with China that the U.S. Navy will lose badly and Taiwan's semiconductor industry will be destroyed.
And Taiwan semiconductor products, of course, that's the world leader in semiconductors.
And so many industries in the US, including the military industry, rely on Taiwan semiconductors in order to have functioning microchips and so on.
And so there goes the US military in terms of its technology and manufacturing.
No can do.
And this is also going to affect a lot of consumer electronics devices, products, telecommunications, you name it, computers, whatever.
And so as a result, if Trump wants to go into a trade war with China and with Brazil, with India, the consumers are going to lose big time.
You're going to have supply chain shortages that you couldn't even imagine under COVID. It's going to be a whole new era of supply chain collapse and of prices doubling everywhere.
And then China will, of course, block exports out of the U.S. And so U.S. companies that make goods that are exported to China will go bankrupt.
They'll lay off people.
They'll have to shut down.
And there'll be mass joblessness.
So the economy will just...
Really suffer under this.
And all economists know this.
This tariff trade war is insane.
It's basically kind of like a suicide pact.
And it's not going to produce the results that Trump wants, which is, again, to try to bludgeon all these other countries into being obedient to the dollar.
It's not going to work.
What Trump should do instead is actually...
Join Bricks.
Join Bricks.
It's an honest ledger international financial settlement system.
And then have America compete in the world marketplace based on merit.
America is resource rich.
America has all kinds of minerals.
America can grow a lot of food.
America can export agricultural products, energy products, some technology as well, some minerals, etc.
I mean, America can make a few things and it can export those things and then just, you know, compete in the international marketplace.
And then we don't end up in all these wars that waste hundreds of billions of dollars, if not trillions of dollars.
And then the American people would have jobs and businesses wouldn't be bankrupted by trade wars.
Of course, you'd have to radically reform the educational system so that our youth are trained in doing useful things rather than being converted into woke tards at the universities.
And we'd have to have a cultural shift where more Americans are willing to work.
So you have to reform the whole welfare state.
You can't just pay people to sit around and do nothing, which is really what the U.S. has become, a giant welfare state, especially since COVID. And most federal workers on the federal payroll are just it's just welfare disguised as a government job.
They're just sitting around 80 percent of the time doing nothing.
So you'd actually have to get America back to work again.
And of course, that's not going to be popular.
I mean, who wants to work when you could just get free money from the government?
So all that would have to be reformed.
But, you know, the rest of the world is working.
People in China are working.
People in Russia are working.
They're building things and exporting things.
They're working hard.
In India, in Iran, right?
Many places around the world, people work.
Only in America do we think, like, we could just print money and export debt and trade that for everybody else's goods and services, and then we don't have to work.
We could just be fat, lazy consumers.
Just more pizza!
That's the whole American attitude right now.
That's not going to fly in an honest free market system.
That's why Trump wants to bludgeon the world into using the dollar, because Trump realizes America can't compete.
America can't compete!
Sorry if that's news to anybody listening, but currently, as structured, America can't compete.
There's just not enough people willing to work or to do anything intelligent.
You know, the age of Steve Jobs is over.
And Bill Gates turned into a GMO mosquito-pushing globalist who wants to achieve depopulation.
So, you know, the age of American innovation, for the most part, is gone.
And the real innovators, like people like myself...
You know, who build AI systems and build technology platforms.
And we're all censored and demonetized and deplatformed and just shut down everywhere.
So, you know, America incentivizes the woke tards, encourages businesses that don't work, like all these wind farms and solar farms and everything.
Gives millions of dollars to just fraudulent green industry companies, but suppresses the people who actually are the builders.
Like, I'm a builder.
Many of you listening are builders.
We build shit.
Like, we are the people that build civilization.
We stand on the shoulders of the builders that came before us, and then we keep on building.
But we are all suppressed and censored and shut down and blacklisted, and that's all by design.
So unless you start allowing the builders to build stuff, then America can't compete.
And it's over for America.
So just keep that in mind.
And again, that's why Trump wants to use the Navy, the military, and all kinds of threats and economic sanctions to just threaten and coerce and bludgeon the rest of the world into obedience.
And that's not going to work.
So Buy everything you can before January 20th is all I'm saying.
I'm going to do that.
I'm going to be shopping.
I guess I should have been shopping over the Black Friday holiday recently, but I was too busy working on my AI project.
But I literally did not have time to do any shopping at all.
But I'm going to buy stuff from China that I'm going to need, you know, machine parts and things like that.
I'm going to buy that stock up on that before January 20th because everything's going to double.
I might replace my toaster.
I don't know.
Get a couple new fry pans.
Things like that.
Everything's going to double.
And 2025 is going to be characterized as an insane era of Trump's disastrous trade wars.
And they will backfire in spectacular fashion.
Now, I do agree with the tariff on Mexico to bludgeon Mexico into...
I'm securing its border, even though I recognize that's a weapon of mass destruction, you know, a tariff.
But the open border situation is severe.
And, you know, a 25% tariff out of Mexico, that's not the end of the world compared to, like, 100% tariff on China?
Forget it.
The U.S. economy will crater.
It'll just crater.
That's exactly where this is headed.
Unless Trump wakes up and realizes, hey, we gotta be more mindful about this, more balanced, more nuanced.
So we'll see what happens.
Thanks for listening.
Mike Adams here.
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Alright, hope you enjoyed that special report.
I've got some other interesting news to share with you here before we go to today's interview.
The Goldback Company has just released the new Florida edition of their Goldbacks.
And yes, we are an affiliate of the Goldback Company.
I've got a short video for you here.
I just filmed today showing you the new goldbacks, the ones and the fives, which have real physical gold embedded in each goldback.
And they're just, the art is beautiful.
The format is beautiful.
These are amazing gifts and collectibles.
And since they contain real gold, they are a real store of gold value.
And people love these.
They're beautiful.
And it's a divisible form of gold.
So Check out this quick update, and on the other side, we'll continue with the interview.
Alright, the goldback company has just issued a new set of goldbacks for the state of Florida.
This is the one goldback for Florida.
It's got a unique pattern on it.
And here's the five, which is five one-thousandths of an ounce of gold embedded in the goldback itself.
These contain real physical gold in them.
We've done the lab testing and verified the purity and the mass of the gold.
and for the first time ever Florida is now represented in goldbacks.
If you go to verifiedgoldbacks.com then you'll see our lab testing that we've conducted on the goldbacks and there's a link there where you can purchase goldbacks.
We do benefit from that purchase.
We get a little bit of an affiliate reward for the goldbacks.
We partner with the goldback company but you get real physical gold in this highly divisible form and And here's some of our testing that we've done with the crucible.
And this is the acid dissolving.
This is the stone test and so on.
We use our ICP-MS instruments and our analytical balances to verify the amount of gold they contain.
And just here's some more photos.
And then here's some of the results down here.
Sorry, it's a lot of information.
Yeah, here we go.
Recovery over 100%.
So, you're going to get at least 100% of the gold that is claimed in these gold backs.
So this says one one-thousandth of an ounce of gold, which today, you know, I mean, gold's getting a lot more valuable in terms of dollars because dollars are declining in value.
But this is a divisible form of gold.
You know, it's hard to spend a gold coin.
I mean, gold coins have their place, don't get me wrong.
And I think anybody acquiring gold is on a path of wisdom as far as I'm concerned.
But this is a divisible form.
You can use a thousandth of an ounce of gold to pay for a sandwich, for example, or to barter with someone or to use it at a farmer's market or to give it as a gift or to use it as tips.
These are amazing.
They have amazing artwork.
There are different states that are represented like Wyoming, for example, and Utah, but now Florida for the first time.
So go to verifiedgoldbacks.com, click on the link there, and you'll be able to see the entire Florida set that's available now for the first time ever.
Texas is not yet available, but we're hoping that will happen maybe next year.
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Collector sets are available now.
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All right, now we're going to jump into the interview with our guest today, Joseph Lumpkin, who's the author of many books, The Book of Giants, He's the author of Fallen Angels, The Watchers, and The Origins of Evil.
He's got the secret gospel of Mark, a longer gospel of Mark that was discovered.
He's got advanced lesson in Gnosticism, the history of Gnosticism, plus an annotated compilation of Gnostic texts.
I mean, this guy is a hardcore researcher and academic about lost scripture and So, check it out.
Enjoy the interview with Joseph Lumpkin, and I'll be back with you tomorrow.
Alright, welcome to today's interview here on Brighteon.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon, and I've got a real treat for you today, a first-time guest, Joseph Lumpkin.
He is an author and researcher, and he's the author of many really interesting books like The Book of Giants, The Books of Enoch, The Lost Books of the Bible, and so much more.
His website is fifthestatepub.com.
And his works intrigue me tremendously because, as you may know, I've published, I don't know, 103 Bible sermons so far, and I've angered a few Christians in the later sermons by saying that, hey, you know, the Bible, it was assembled from sort of what they could find, and then some things were left out on purpose, and it's not like just every holy word of God.
These are things written by men, and some of them are inserted in, some of them are altered, some of them were never found, and some of them were censored out of the Bible.
Well, our guest today can speak to that very point, that the Bible is not the whole story.
It barely scratches the surface.
So, welcome, Mr. Lumpkin, to the interview today.
It's a pleasure to have you on.
Please call me Joseph, and I'm glad to be here.
All right, Joseph.
Again, I thank you for your time, and your work is fascinating to me, and we'll show your books, and I know people can get those books on Amazon and other booksellers, but how would you, just as a beginning, since this is your first time here with our audience, how would you describe yourself and your body of work?
I went down a rabbit hole, and I never came out.
That really sums it up.
I was working for the Hypersonic Missile Project in Huntsville, Alabama as an analyst because what I like to do is research and apply.
And Obama came in, he shuts down most of the industry at that particular time.
I had written a book because I was working on a doctoral thesis.
It was a book on, it started out to be a book on Jude.
And I ran across one quote.
It said, he's coming back with ten thousands of the saints.
See, one E-N. And Mike, if you're in seminary, you're usually indoctrinated and not very well educated sometimes.
So I thought, well, what is one E-N? And I looked at it and there were a couple of books out there that were translations, but they were stilted.
They were Elizabethan, forced English.
They were a mess.
And I came home and told my wife, I want to do this.
So I took about a year and we basically modernized and put a commentary to the Book of Enoch.
And the darn thing went to number 300 on Amazon.
It's been years and years ago.
And I came home and I said, well, you know, in a couple of weeks, I won't have a job.
So I'm going to just stay home and write.
And bless her heart.
Good one.
Okay.
Well, so the books of Enoch, then, these were—I've heard them referred to as the lost books, but what are the biggest— Takeaways.
Because I haven't read the books of Enoch.
I mean, I've read little passages and quotes from them and citations, but I haven't read it cover to cover.
I mean, there's multiple parts, but what would you say is the biggest takeaway that we need to understand?
Or a little teaser?
Well, there are five parts of the book, and they're written between probably 300 BC and right at the turn of the century.
We'll call the absolute outside possibly 50 AD, but we're thinking probably closer to the BC group.
Okay.
What do you take out of it?
The majority of power of that book is simply the fact that it was quoted word for word by the apostles, referred to in Peter, quoted by Jude, referred to by Jesus, and absolutely positively informs the modern Christian idea of angels and demons.
Yeah, it's a fascinating book, and I want to stop here and kind of give you a caveat, okay?
One man's myth is another man's religion, and we have to keep that in mind.
That's right.
And so when we delve into this, we'll find out that Christianity is not Christianity world-round.
You know, we have 66 books if you're a Protestant.
You have 73 if you're Catholic.
You have a couple more if you're Orthodox.
If you're Ethiopic in the Orthodox Church, there you have 81 books in your canon.
Part of that canon is the Book of Enoch and the Book of Jubilees.
And these are, Jubilees is kind of a midrash.
It's an expansion.
On Genesis, and Enoch is basically an expansion on Genesis also, where it says that the angels came down and took human wives and gave birth to giants and men of renown.
Men of renown, that's interesting, isn't it?
Achilles, Hercules, those demigods that That are mentioned.
We believe that they're somewhat connected.
Gilgamesh is mentioned in the Book of Giants.
And so, I guess one last thing.
The Book of Giants was found basically alongside the Book of Enoch, but there were two separate books.
But when I read the Book of Giants, I sat down with my son and I said, Brendan, this book belongs back as part, an expansion, if you will, of Enoch.
And we put it back in.
We actually found the place that it belonged and set it back in to the Book of Enoch.
So we've got a book out there that has the Book of Giants in it along with Enoch.
Anyway, that's the short story.
By the way, I know you're a patriot.
I know that you keep track of this.
The idea when Biden said that we did not have the hypersonic missile project that China...
Had it, and we didn't, and we had fallen behind.
That's garbage.
We had that.
It was shut down, and within two years, China had the project.
They actually had, we'll call it the schematics, the information, and I don't know how that happened.
Yeah, well...
Yeah, I think we all know how that happened.
Exactly.
But I'm glad you brought that up because I wasn't aware of your background in that area, but Russia's new Oreshnik missile system is causing a lot of panic in certain military circles.
I've done an analysis of the Oreshnik, some of the math of the kinetic energy that's released upon impact and so on.
If we get a chance, I'd love to ask for your take on On that new missile system, you've already hinted that the hypersonic weapons of the US were really shut down.
So we should have had hypersonic missiles.
We actually did.
We ran a test off of the Marshall Island chain.
It worked.
Well, the second test worked.
The first test gave rise to my project because When you're in upper atmosphere, you cannot use fins.
There's not enough air, if you will, to cause friction to turn the thing.
So you have to use steering jets.
The steering jets are located right past the nose cone, basically.
Nose cone's looking out in infrared, looking for the target, and it's acquiring the target, setting up a vector to intercept.
And when they fired the steering jet, There was a small vortex that came around into the nose cone area and it blinded itself with its own heat.
And that gave way to part of the project that I worked on for many years.
You can actually, it's been declassified, you can actually go online and type in Mach5, M-A-C-H-5, comma, Colsa, C-O-L-S-A. And it'll pop up and it'll tell you that at one time we were the 16th, I think it was, fastest, largest computer on the planet, not including NSA because they don't tell you anything.
And that's where we were modeling this.
And yeah, just overnight it shut down and all of a sudden...
And we headed up to Mach 6, going to Mach 7, pretty clean.
We had actually gotten a solution and we were applying it, stepping up the speed, applying it again.
And it was working fine.
And all of a sudden it disappeared.
It disappeared and it showed up in China and then again in Russia.
Go figure.
Well, that's really interesting that you, I'm reading here that that system had achieved 25 teraflops and that was back in 2003, 2004, something like that?
Yeah.
Yeah, it was screaming.
Yeah, that's a lot of teraflops for that long ago.
Of course, today, people are practically running that on their gaming rigs with the NVIDIA GPUs.
Moore's Law, isn't it?
Yeah, it's absolutely crazy.
It's Moore's Law.
Yeah, but...
Well, here's a little something before we get back to that project.
There was so much heat generated.
They asked me to help with the electrical system, and And, you know, the dumb things that smart people don't think of, this kind of falls in that classification.
It's kind of interesting.
There was a lot of air going through there to cool that system.
Moore's Law doesn't tell you that, you know, it says that you're going to get smaller and faster, but what it doesn't tell you is that your heat goes up exponentially.
That's right.
So we had so much cooling running under the system that in Alabama, we were producing an Olympic-sized swimming pool of condensate every few weeks.
How do you get rid of it?
They wouldn't let us dump it because that would be industrial dumping, so we had to come up with a solution.
But part of that solution was to water the yard next to us that we owned.
And then that ran off and became part of the stream, which went right back into the system that they didn't want us to dump in anyway.
But since it came through the yard, it was considered runoff.
Right.
So you were dumping heat into the ground.
Yeah.
Next door.
Well, hey, that should work.
I mean, you know, earth mass has a lot of thermal mass.
Thermal coefficient of dirt is pretty good, pretty high.
Yeah.
So we were only dumping water, which was a condensate from the air conditioning system.
So it wasn't real hot, but it was nice and warm.
And the grass grew mightily.
That's really interesting.
Okay.
Well, it's funny because I was thinking about this Russian missile system, the Oreshnik, the hazelnut system, and these submunitions that are cone-shaped, that are coming down at incredible speeds, much higher than Mach 10. Mach 10 is what the missile travels at.
But the sub-munitions come down at something greater than Mach 10. Nobody knows for sure.
But I was thinking about the stability factors.
I mean, how do you stabilize a cone-shaped munition?
You know, if you get a little shimmy, it's toast.
It's gone.
Right?
Yeah.
I'm kind of wondering off the top of my head if they're not making it spin to stabilize it, but I don't know.
You know, for one thing, it was 2003. Right.
And for the other thing, as you probably know, your clearance goes away with your contract, and it's kind of kept, as far as a secret clearance goes, it's kept for about two years, and then it just goes away.
You have to redo it, so I'm out of the loop.
All right.
Well, fair enough.
But I mean, this is fascinating.
And you and I should talk more about this because you and I both have a lot of interest in religion and history, but also we're both scientists.
You know, I run a mass spec food science lab.
And we can talk about these things.
That is interesting.
I installed the first mass spectrometer here for Carraway Hospital, and it was still in Alabama, still in Birmingham.
No kidding.
And that was for, it was a magnetic mass spec, and it was for the anesthesiology equipment.
We would run it through, and then it would report real-time, first time that this has been done.
It's been so many years ago, Mike.
Of course, it was the size of a refrigerator back then.
I don't know what it is now.
Probably you can fit it in your pocket.
I don't know.
No, no, it's still, at least our mass spec instruments, they fit on this desk.
Like, it would take half the desk.
That's a triple quad mass spec, so it's got really three quadruples in it, but very large vacuum turbines.
You have to pull a strong vacuum, you know, to eliminate background noise.
So they're still pretty hefty.
Yeah, we would have to pull the vacuum.
There'd be special oil that would be in there because you couldn't have it evaporate.
When you lower your barometric pressure, the thing will boil away if you don't watch it.
Yeah, that's right.
In our lab, we have what are called rough pumps.
The rough pumps run this oil, but they're under the table.
They do the rough pull of the vacuum, and then the turbines in the units do the final couple orders of magnitude of vacuum pulling.
I did not realize that we had so much in common.
It's interesting.
Yeah, isn't it?
But, you know, science is science, isn't it?
And once you...
I mean, I looked at some...
They sent me to do some photonic...
Well, to digress slightly, when you have that much air flowing through your system, tornadic activity can happen in a space of about three, four feet.
So you're walking down the hallway and you'll find 72, 68, 104. Well, what just happened?
Well, you've got a small tornado there.
You have to break up the vortex and keep the air flowing without getting into these little cyclones.
So anyway, I sat down to do some work on a FLIR system, scientific FLIR, forward-looking infrared.
And yeah, it was really interesting because it was Kirchhoff's voltage and current laws set in photons.
I mean, what goes in goes out.
You can't have a loss of energy, and all you do is just convert the units, and it's the same science.
Yeah, it reminds me of the PMT, the photon multiplier, the sensor on the mass spec instruments.
You know how they bounce the mass off of the multiplier to create an electric current, which gives you the count.
And they can count the atoms of an element.
Yeah, I don't know that ours was that sophisticated.
We were, of course, doing weight.
So you have the magnet here that you know what's going on.
Okay.
You know exactly.
And then as you pump it out, you pump the ions out, the weightier, more massive photon or molecules or atoms go straight, and the others are turned more and more by the magnet.
And so you have a magnetic Pull that gives you an atomic weight.
Well, no, that sounds exactly like a quadrupole.
So what you're really measuring is the mass to charge ratio, right?
Yeah.
You would tune it to mass to charge.
It's interesting, isn't it?
Let me turn this phone off.
Sorry.
M over Z, folks, for those listening, if you want to geek out with us one day.
But yeah, that's cool.
But it's fascinating that both of us have an interest in the Bible and in the history and in the hidden books.
And also, I love the fact that you're so open-minded.
Because one of the things about a religion is that people get...
Really locked into their beliefs, and they often don't want them challenged at all.
But you and I, we want to challenge people's beliefs.
And sometimes people get angry, sometimes they get enlightened, you know?
So it's a good thing.
Yeah, it is a good thing, but we are truly killing each other.
Okay, so I'm going to digress just a little bit, if you don't mind.
Just going to kind of ramble for a second.
Do you know what the axial age is?
No, I don't.
This is really interesting.
You know, human beings came out, whatever it was, 200 million years ago, and then we were the same for a long time, and then all of a sudden something happened, and we began to develop at this enormous rate.
Well, there's something like that that happened spiritually.
It's called the axial age.
So around 700 B.C., It seems like the spiritual part of humanity woke up overnight.
And what I mean by that is we were out trying to please a god Yeah, I agree.
That's one of the parts of the Bible that bothers me the most.
And it bothered God and it bothered Jesus too.
Yes, and it speaks more of humanity than it does of God.
Yep, I agree.
So all of a sudden, in this period of time, Zohar, Aster, Buddha, Confucius, Latsu, and all the way to Jesus.
So we got from about 700 to about, you know, 4 BC or whatever.
And so, all of these minds came available at the same time, and they all were saying the same thing.
Look inside, don't look outside.
You know, you can wake up, wake up, wake up, wake up.
And we began to get away from the sacrifice and the terror and the killing.
So what we have on this planet right now are two things.
We have wars because of greed and avarice.
You can put Putin in that area.
And then we have wars between those who are pre and those who are post-axial age.
There are religions that never came out of the Axial Age, even though they may have been created after the event.
And these are the religions that say, if you don't believe, we're going to kill you.
Would you be referring to Judaism?
I am referring to Islam.
Islam?
I'm just wondering because we're seeing a lot of killing going on in the Middle East right now.
Yeah, we truly are.
Nobody wants to find common ground at the moment, it seems.
Right, yeah.
And those two religions are kind of pre-axial age religions, even though I've never seen, I haven't seen very many Jewish terrorists, but we can discuss that at some other length.
Definitely, they are out for blood now, but personally, I feel like they got kicked first.
Sure.
Anything in my head could be wrong, right?
Well, yeah, we all have to operate under that philosophy.
But importantly, you said there was this sort of simultaneous awakening to a spiritual reality.
And I assume that you mean that that was multicultural.
Absolutely.
Because if you look across the spectrum from Buddha to Jesus and Latsu included in Zoroaster and all of these guys that are basically saying, No, we probably shouldn't be killing to please God.
It really doesn't make any sense.
He made everything.
Why would he want it destroyed?
Let's kind of look at ourselves and try to figure this out.
And those religions...
They're the ones that tend to come out on top, if you will, humanity-wise.
Okay, so does this mean that will there be another Age of Awakening?
Oh, man.
You're a guy after my own heart.
I've been preaching this now for several years.
I believe that we're coming to a point that we'll be forced into a second Axial Age.
Wow.
I really do.
I really do.
I think it's going to...
No, I'm sorry.
Go ahead.
I think it's going to be kind of a get it right or get dead kind of thing.
You know, our humanity...
Has been left behind by our technology.
Yes, yes.
Our morality has evaporated.
And we worship false idols.
I mean, we worship transhumanism and AI and material wealth, you know, all these things.
Yes.
They're distractions.
So I believe at the end of the day here, we probably will end up leaving religion, if you will, behind and picking up spirituality.
I am...
My religion, my personal belief is based on apothetic theology, that is to say a negative theology.
Anything that you can experience with your senses, anything that you can think of, anything that you can imagine, that's not God.
That might be a reflection, it might be an echo, but that's not God.
And we just keep on digging and digging and digging until we find him.
But that means that we have to put aside all of our preconceived ideas.
And we have to come to a point that we understand that doctrine is like glass.
You might be able to see the truth through it, but you can't touch it.
It has to be experienced personally.
I think when we finally get to that point, we can leave our books behind and actually sit down and, you know, Figuratively speaking, talk to God.
So does this mean that the, you know, in the Christian tradition, it was talking about the second coming of Christ, which always struck me as really an allegory, you know?
Me too, yeah.
Yeah.
There's a lot of that, especially in the New Testament.
But the second coming of Christ, might it be a second awakening?
I certainly hope so.
That is my hope.
That is my dream.
That somehow, some way, humanity will wake up and go, you know, the truth is not really in the Koran.
The truth is really the entire truth.
It's not in the Bible.
The truth is where you meet it along, you know, I don't know if you've read the book, if you meet Buddha on the road, kill him, but that's basically where I'm going with this.
We are all Buddha.
We're all Jesus.
We have this in us.
We have this divine flame.
We, you know, Jesus himself said, more than these things will you do?
And how could we do these unless we have that same Well, I think it's...
Even I've argued that the existence of consciousness and free will is a little sliver of what I call God's consciousness.
Let's say you've been given this little bit of consciousness That we experience from a first-person perspective in this cosmic creation that sometimes I call it the simulation, you know.
And it's got interesting rules and laws that we try to uncover as scientists.
We try to figure out how these things work.
Yes, yes.
But there's more, I believe, there's much more than this 3D world and that our consciousness and our minds are not just emergent properties of the physical computational brain.
Do you agree with that?
I wholeheartedly agree with it because I believe that we may find, and I don't know, I mean I'm just ranting here, just rambling, but I have this deep, deep belief That we're going to find that there's only one consciousness.
It's just phasing in and out of all of us.
It is a universal consciousness.
Someone asked me, is the universe conscious?
And I said, well, of course it is.
We're here.
We are observing the universe, and if there is no other consciousness, it is still conscious, and we are observing.
We are the observers of what's going on.
But I believe that it's far more than that.
I think that we have An actual possible universal consciousness.
You know, there's many dimensions.
Some people say 10 or 11. Some of these are so small that they're rolled up in a tiny little, well, it's 10 to the minus 33rd power.
Okay.
I don't even know the metric units to go that far.
Yeah, the centimeters.
So it's subatomic.
And, and it's almost like I imagine it's stepping into the Taurus, you know, you, you step into what looks like a phone booth, and, and it could be infinitely big, because you don't know what's going on within the dimension.
So, to be an atheist...
You have to be all places at all times at one time in all dimensions to say that there is no God.
So I think that's a pretty arrogant thing to do.
Say you're an agnostic all day long, but If you're a dyed-in-wool atheist, I think you've got an ego problem.
Well, I would agree with that.
Let me take this one step further with you, though.
Then, if we ultimately are expressions of one consciousness, and that grand consciousness is the creator, Then don't we also have some expression, some sliver of the power of creation ourselves, and that gets into, I think, the relationship between the observer and, you know, the collapse of the wave function and quantum physics, and are we creating as we are observing?
In other words, are we co-creating this universe in real time as we experience it?
That I don't know, but it seems to have some I don't know how deep to go into this, but so I'm going to start back a little bit and just forgive me for digressing, but this is how I think.
All right, so our Our religion continues to evolve, our Christianity continues to evolve, and it evolves based on what we're exposed to and what information we have.
Prior to about 1800, nobody ever thought about the rapture.
The rapture was not around.
The rapture wasn't even an idea.
It's just a construct.
I think it actually came out, my personal opinion, came out of a novel that was written in Spain, and it was read, and basically it made its way to Scotland.
The idea preached really, really well.
Schofield put it into his Bible because he loved the way that it preached, and it became a doctrine.
But it was never a doctrine, okay?
So we know that our religion changes based on what we're exposed to and what we like and dislike, and we know that we create God in our own image.
If you're an agricultural society, your God is the God of thunder and rain, and if you're a war society, then your God is a warrior, and so on and so forth.
So, a few years ago, late 1800s, Something started developing within Christianity called the New Thought Movement.
Florence Shin was part of that movement.
She was a great influence.
And through her teachings came Mary Baker Eddy and by transmission, Napoleon Hill.
And then you had the hyperfaith movement that came out of that, which was Charles Capps and Kenneth Copeland and all of these name-it-and-claim-it kind of theologies.
And they probably have such a small seed of truth that they never will go away, but they're being misused.
And of course, the only people that really get absolutely filthy rich on that kind of theology is the preachers themselves.
It's interesting.
Right.
Which is exactly what Christ taught against, by the way.
Exactly.
They're the Pharisees that are shearing the sheep right now.
Yep.
But the sheep have to want to be sheared and the sheep have to be stupid enough to keep following them.
And as the old quote from Star Trek or Star Wars says, what's the more foolish?
The fool of the fool who follows him.
Well, yeah, that's true.
But also, these are not the droids you're looking for, which I think would refer to the false idols, the worship of the false gods.
And you see so many people...
That they do worship like a charismatic preacher, pastor type of figure who is actually misleading them.
See, this is why I love having you on, because I see in the common churches today the withholding of information, even just from the Bible itself.
The more of the Bible that I read and teach in my own sermons, the more I realize that almost nobody's willing to touch these passages.
And I know you've encountered this over and over again.
Well, I encountered one just literally this morning.
I was reading in Job 38 and just happened to be there for some reason.
And it says, can you draw out Mazeroth?
Can you pull out her bear and her cubs?
And I'm thinking, what in the world?
And I looked real quick in the Hebrew, and it's Zodiac.
And they just completely avoided using that because they didn't want the Christians to go astrology on them.
Right.
So it was the Ursula, or what's the bear Zodiac?
Yeah, Ursa Major.
Ursa Major.
Ursa Major, which is what we call the Big Dipper.
Wow.
So, yeah, Christians get crazy.
You start talking about stars, which is bizarre to me, because if God created the cosmos, shouldn't we be looking at his creation and seeing what's happening?
Yeah, he asked, in another place, he says, can you control Leviathan?
Well, you know, that has two meanings.
It's a sea beast, but it's also the largest constellation, you know, that you can see.
Ah, yeah.
So, there's a lot of talk about astrology and a lot of talk about that in Enoch.
It has an entire portion of the book dedicated to that.
Of course, they believe it's Babylonian-based astrology, but it doesn't really matter.
It's still the same principles.
Yeah.
Well, and speaking of the hidden concepts, I'm really glad you mentioned the Book of Giants because I've interviewed other guests who talk about giants and the fallen angels actually having offspring with humans and these types of things.
And there are even...
Credible accusations that the Smithsonian, for example, has been hiding archaeological evidence of very large beings, i.e.
giants.
And I know sometimes people just scoff at that.
Oh, you think it's all made up.
But actually, in what you write about, I mean, this was common knowledge until the last couple centuries, wasn't it?
Isn't that interesting that...
I ask my friends who scoff at me, do you really believe that God said less and less as time goes on?
Does that make any sense to you at all?
Of course, they don't.
And I say, well, then why is the oldest denomination 81 books and the youngest denomination 66 books?
And even at our 66 books, you had people like Luther.
And the like that were going, you know, I really hate the book of James.
I should burn Jimmy in the fire.
If I could, I'd set him on fire.
Sounds like something Paul would say.
Yeah, Paul is an asshole.
Yeah, so, but yes, it's being hidden because it's a third rail.
You don't want to, look, when I say That I do not want anybody that I love to go down this rabbit hole.
I mean it.
I mean it sincerely, wholeheartedly.
You don't want to ask that question if you're at peace.
If you're at peace with your religion and your faith and you're good with it, don't ask the question.
Just walk away.
Just walk away.
Because once you get down here, It never stops.
Every year they come up with a different, somebody's dug up something and you look at it and you go, well that resets everything, doesn't it?
And these things are never told to the congregation.
We keep these things away from the congregation because we don't want to disturb the sheep.
And we don't want to disturb the sheep because, for one thing, they pay the bills.
Right.
And so you don't want them running off, you don't want them scattering.
You just want to keep them here, keep them peaceful, say the same things over and over again, repeat the same things every year, you know, just drill it in their heads, and feed them pablum, and send them home.
Because the moment that you stand up and you go, new discovery, vision of Gabriel, talks about a Messiah that's 100 years before Jesus.
What are you going to do with that information?
They don't want to know it.
They don't want to think about it.
That's right.
Well, I mean, a lot of modern churches don't even acknowledge that Jesus cast out demons.
They don't want to talk about that.
But what I love about this, and I think you and I are both...
Really curious people.
Our audience, they're very curious.
They do want to peel away the layers of the onion.
They want to go down the rabbit hole because they want a deeper understanding of how things work and how we came to be, by the way.
The history of human origins is at stake in all of this.
And I think we've been lied to about that.
The history of God is at stake, too.
Yes.
And don't get me wrong.
I'm not saying that there's not a God.
I thoroughly, absolutely believe that there is a God.
But...
Our understanding and our methodology has changed to a point that you must keep asking the same question.
Where did that come from?
What happened before that?
Why did that happen?
Right.
And you come to an understanding that probably Yahweh, the way that we understand it now, and there's several different theories, but Yahweh may have been part of the El Asheroth pantheon, right?
Canaanite pantheon.
But he also has been dug up in Timon.
That city and that area used to be a smelting and mining facility.
Something happened, and the Egyptians that were running the place quit.
They ran.
I don't know what happened, but they disappeared.
And then this Canaanite group came in, and they started the mind back up, and they expanded it 100 times.
And they were worshiping a god that did not have a name and did not have a face, and they referred to him through the tetragraph of Yahweh.
And that's the first time that we see this god stand alone, which is really interesting.
If you look at 1st Genesis, it refers to God as El.
By the time you get to 2nd Genesis, it refers to him as the Lord God or Elyon.
By the time you get past that, he's Yahweh.
And so we had something take place where it almost looks like the sun...
Replace the Father, you might say.
And this is addressed, of course, because Genesis, I think it is.
No, it's, where is that?
It's Psalms 82. So, Psalms 82 tells us, no, I'm sorry, it's Deuteronomy 32. Deuteronomy 32 tells us that God stood and he divided the nation.
So, here we go.
Remember the days of old, consider years long ago.
Ask your father, he'll inform you.
Ask your elders, they'll tell you.
When the Most High apportioned the nations, when he divided mankind, he fixed the boundaries of the people according to the number of the gods.
That's interesting, isn't it?
And the Lord's own, now that's the Lord is Yahweh.
Yahweh's own portion was his people of Jacob.
And that was his allotted share.
And it goes on.
But that's a look of a couple of the versions and you'll see they kind of skate around here.
But the new revised standard updated edition pretty well nails it.
Well, I'm glad you brought that up because I did want to ask you, too, a related question, which is how much of the original underlying...
Languages, whether it's Hebrew or Arabic in some cases, or Greek or what have you.
How much of that, from the original writings, has been deliberately perverted by the New King James Version, for example?
What's your answer to that?
Because as I'm reading, I don't know how much I can trust the translations.
I have two answers for that, and neither one of them, some of us are...
Some of our audience will not like either one of these answers.
Okay.
When you look at a translation, you've got 2,000 years of scribal interference.
What they would do is they would look at something and they would go, well, that doesn't quite fit here.
He must mean this.
And they would change the words.
So that's the first kind of contortion.
The second type is, of course, just scribal errors, right?
The third type is really interesting.
It's like, that ended flat.
I don't think it should end that way.
Let's add something to it.
Two examples.
Then I'll quit there.
The first one is the Lord's Prayer.
It ends, if you're a Protestant and you're reading King James, for thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever.
Amen.
Phenomenal.
I mean, I love it.
The doxology, I love the doxology.
It ain't there.
It ain't there.
And that's why it doesn't occur in the newer Revived Standard versions and things like that.
It just simply wasn't there if you go back a thousand years.
So a scribe added it.
Second one.
The end of Mark.
The end of Mark.
They'll pick up snakes, they'll drink poison, they won't be harmed, they'll heal the sick, they'll raise the dead, go forth and conquer and all that stuff.
Not in there.
Not in there.
Now, I live in Alabama.
Right off the road here are the snake handlers, and every year someone dies.
They believe they're following the scriptures.
They really believe that they're testing their faith and they're doing exactly what the scriptures say.
And they absolutely will not believe because they believe, and I actually had one of them tell me this.
I swear to you, it's not made up.
If the King James is good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for us.
Wow.
How does that translate?
That doesn't make any sense.
It does to them.
It does to them.
If you have a time machine, maybe.
I don't know.
So, yeah.
But I just throw this out there because there's a lot that has been added, perverted.
More than likely, the story of Jesus and the woman caught in adultery is It's an edition, a later edition, probably around, you know, 600, 700. It's great.
It preaches really well.
But we had the same thing that happened in Enoch.
Enoch was written in five different stages over a period of about 300 years.
Well, let me ask it this way.
Let me add this.
Because today we have the highly perverted Wikipedia, which is run by the CIA. And everybody who's questioning narratives is defamed all across Wikipedia.
So the government tells Wikipedia what is truth, right?
So why wouldn't we assume that during the time that scribes were transcribing all these different passages and books and the letters and all the records of Jeremiah and everything else, at some point, Wouldn't whatever government was in power at the time, Rome, in the proper era, wouldn't Rome say, well, we want to make sure that the Bible says that everybody should be loyal to Rome?
Well, it does, doesn't it?
Yeah, there it is, right in Romans.
But that's Paul again.
Yeah.
Yeah, but some people think that Paul was a plant.
I mean, it gets kind of interesting, doesn't it?
It does.
So you've got a guy who comes in, and James, the brother of Jesus, has been given the reins to the church in Jerusalem, and he's been there for a while.
And so Paul doesn't start even doing anything until about 50 AD. So Jesus has been dead for about 20 years.
James has been running the place.
Everything's fine.
Almost everything, everybody's Jewish.
If you're a Christian, they call it the Jesus cult or the way.
And so, you know, it's part of Judaism.
He didn't come to start a new religion.
He started to clean up his own.
And then Paul gets there, and so you have about two to five percent of the population at that time that were Jewish, and just a sliver of those became converts to Christianity.
So Paul decides that he's going to open the doors to the Gentiles, and there's a little discussion about it, and it's not, it's a little heated.
And so Paul decides, and he literally basically says this, I know you're the brother of Jesus.
I know you've been with him all your life, but hey, I met him on the road.
He gave me some stuff.
I was, you know, in the desert, in the wilderness, and I visited with him there in the spirit, and this is what he wants me to do, so I'm going to go do it.
Well, that takes a lot of chutzpah.
Yeah.
When we walk in and tell the brother of the Lord that he doesn't know what the Lord wants, and so he opens up the door to the Gentiles, and then he basically makes the religion Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
And then Paul presents himself as being granted authority by Jesus to all the other churches.
That's right.
And then a lot of contradictions, obviously, in what Paul was teaching versus what Jesus was teaching.
Indeed, yeah.
But keep in mind that out of the 13 letters that are supposed to be written by Paul, probably only about seven of them are really Pauline.
Really?
Yeah.
Oh, that's interesting.
Well, it's kind of generally accepted by most of the scholars, and it has to do with the language, vocabulary, theology.
You kind of look at Hebrews as the absolute language.
Like, it's out there.
That's probably not Pauline at all.
Most people say, nah, you know.
And then Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John never say that they're by Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John.
There's no place in there that says that.
And they actually were written a little bit too late for them to be the apostles.
So, probably written by followers, but not actually penned by the apostles.
Interesting.
Well, we're almost out of time here today, but I would say this conversation is a really fascinating first chat to have you as a guest here.
Just kind of peeling back the layer of there's a lot of hidden knowledge.
A lot of hidden knowledge.
And let me bring up your website again.
It's fifthestatepub.com.
And here you have Discover Ancient Wisdom and Lost Scriptures, some of your best-selling books here, the Lost Books of the Bible, Books of Enoch, the Book of Giants, and so on.
What are you working on right now?
Or are you able to talk about it?
oh no no it's fine uh the secret uh gospel of of uh mark um i don't even have it with me here but uh so there is a um there's a version of mark that's a bit longer um so we're working on that um that was discovered in 1958 not a whole lot's been done with it It was discovered in a monastery outside of Jerusalem.
It's an interesting story that we probably don't have time for, but it has some interesting stuff.
It clears up some things.
Who was the guy that was the young man who was arrested or was there when Jesus was arrested that was in the sheet?
Where did he come from?
What was he doing?
Why was he naked?
And so when they grabbed Jesus and they wanted to grab the others, they grabbed the sheet and the guy ran off out from under the sheet and he escaped.
We don't know anything about this guy.
And this particular version fills all that in.
Huh.
All right.
Well, that is fascinating.
And like you say, every year, more ancient records are being found.
Ancient scrolls, tablets in some cases, even.
Yeah.
So, well, there's a lot out there.
This is the last one they came up with.
This is the vision of Gabriel.
And this tells the story of Gabriel addressing the corpse rotting in the desert, calling him the Prince of Peace, dung of the rocky crevasse, and tells him to rise again in three days.
He's talking to a corpse.
He's talking to a corpse.
And he says, rise again in three days.
Yeah, I gave real command.
This was before, long before Christ.
Yeah, it's an interesting book.
That's the last one that we put out before I started working on this other one.
So, was he disappointed when the corpse did not rise in three days, or is that covered?
We're not told what happened to the corpse.
Not everybody has the resurrection power.
There you go.
It's a very limited skill set.
I love that.
Only certain chosen...
Emissaries from God.
Get that one.
There you go.
Some people can cast out demons.
Very few can resurrect.
Okay.
But I have to say, this has been a fascinating conversation.
Thank you for taking the time to join me today.
And I hope this is the first of many, because I want to read some of your books before we talk again, so I have more knowledge.
But I really appreciate what you're doing.
Well, have them drop me an address and I'll send you The Lost Books or The Book of Enoch or whatever you want to chew on and I'll be glad to come back at any time.
Oh, well, that's very gracious of you.
Thank you for that offer.
I'll take you up on that.
So, thank you for all your time today.
And let me just remind our audience, our guest has been Joseph Lumpkin.
And the website, again, is fifthestatepub.com, correct?
That's right.
Okay, fifthestatepub.com.
Alright, so Joseph Lumpkin, thank you so much for your time today.
God bless you.
I hope you're okay with me saying that.
Absolutely.
I say God bless everybody.
Let's have life and joy and peace if we can, you know?
Yes.
And let's also try to understand who we are, where we came from, and what happens after this, too, you know?
Interesting stuff.
Good to meet a fellow traveler.
Yes, indeed.
We are.
And it's such a short journey in this realm.
We might as well use it as best we can.
Right.
So, thank you so much.
Have a wonderful day.
Thank you.
Bye-bye.
All right.
Goodbye.
And thank all of you for watching.
I'm Mike Adams here at brighttown.com.
And if you want to check out my sermons, they're at abundance.church.
And yeah, they're very open-minded, very much in line with our discussion here today.
Not all Christians want to hear what I have to say, and probably not all Christians want to read Joseph's books.
So that's exactly why they should read his books, to, you know, Open your eyes a little bit.
Deepen your faith with understanding.
How about that?
All right.
Thank you all for joining me today.
Mike Adams here at Brighttown.com.
Take care.
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