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Nov. 8, 2024 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams

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DCTV - 'Man In America' Seth Holehouse talks post-election REPENTANCE...

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	Welcome to today's episode of Decentralized TV here on Brighteon.com.
	I'm Mike Adams and welcome to the show.
	This is the first show now that we're recording after the election, the big election that Trump won in the United States, which puts our nation on a very different future than what might have been.
	I guess we are now unburdened by what might have been.
	And I'm going to bring in our co-host today, Todd Pitner.
	Welcome, Todd.
	How are you feeling right now after this election about our future and also about the future of decentralization?
	Fantastic, Mike.
	And as always, great to see you.
	Really looking forward to our guest today.
	Yes.
	And I was feeling rather despondent prior to, and I'm not that personality type, if you can't tell.
	But I was just thinking, they're going to steal this again.
	And when it didn't happen, because...
	They just couldn't put this genie back in the bottle, you know?
	They couldn't even cheat their way through this one.
	Then it just, like, gave me this giant sense of relief.
	And I'm very happy and very hopeful.
	And, you know, I think the answer to all, Mike, is decentralization.
	We'll unpack that.
	100%.
	And that's going to be a core message of our show today.
	We're going to bring in our guest shortly.
	It's Seth Holhouse from Man in America.
	But let me just preface that by saying...
	That we all have to be very cautious, thinking that, like if you're a Trump fan watching this, you're like, everything's going to be great now because our people are going to run the government now.
	And, you know, Todd and I would say, wait a second, wait a second, decentralization is achieved not by just changing who's running the beast system, but rather by, you know...
	Splitting apart the beast system.
	Putting power back into the hands of people.
	We need to decentralize everything for us to be more free.
	Because they can change the people running the government again.
	Because there will be maybe more elections if we make it that far.
	But let's bring in our guest, Seth, to comment on this.
	Welcome Seth Holhouse from maninamerica.com It's so great to have you on, Seth.
	Welcome to the show.
	Thank you so much.
	It's great to be here with both of you, fine gentlemen.
	Today's topic just happens to be very close to my heart, so I'm looking forward to this discussion quite a bit.
	Okay, that's awesome.
	But I do have to offer correction.
	You called us both fine gentlemen.
	So that's strike one.
	We're going to keep track of your strikes today and see what happens.
	We are not fine gentlemen.
	Both of us were probably out in the dirt just a few minutes ago doing some kind of gardening.
	Yeah.
	This morning, I heard him say finite gentleman.
	Oh, finite.
	I thought he nailed it.
	Like we are mere mortals.
	Okay, I accept that.
	That's totally good.
	Okay, Seth, you get a reprieve on that one.
	We'll reset it back to no strikes.
	Okay, but Seth, you also, by the way, you like to grow your own food.
	You're into homesteading.
	You like off-grid living.
	So talk to us about, please, just how are you feeling right now about this whole concept of decentralization?
	In this post-election era, and just kind of set the tone for our conversation today, if you would, please.
	Sure.
	I feel very similar to what both of you have talked about so far.
	My gut is, okay, something is not right about the election.
	I mean, obviously, it's positive, right?
	I think our country is headed towards a more positive direction than what it would have been.
	But, you know, Mike, you and I just finished up in a different interview talking about the art of war.
	I mean, when you're strong, act weak.
	When you're weak, act strong.
	And when have we ever seen...
	Especially in the past eight years, this idea of this peaceful transition and where did all the Hitler rhetoric go?
	If they really believed that Trump was Hitler and that he was going to come in and put everyone in concentration camps and everything, then why would Kamala be conceding so readily?
	It feels like there's a calm before a storm.
	And so that's one concern.
	My other concern, though, is that a lot of the people that have been following your show or my show, that they're thinking to themselves, oh, gosh, okay, we're in the clear now.
	So all that storage, all that food storage I was going to buy or the gold and silver or the brass, whatever it is, I'm not going to need it now because Trump's going to get back in and we're safe.
	And I think that is...
	Extremely dangerous because we are still at war and we're entering into what I think is probably one of the final stages of a significant battle of good and evil and a battle of the cabal and the deep state versus we the people.
	And so I feel like that right now the tone, the discussion needs to be how can we become even more vigilant, more self-sufficient because if we think that Trump's going to snap his fingers and all these criminals and all the army that, you know, The Chinese soldiers and the cartel members, the gang members that came across our border are just going to disappear.
	I think it's a little bit naive, so I'm allowing myself to put my feet up a little bit.
	I went and got a nice coffee with my wife yesterday in celebration, but right now we're really deep into rebuilding a huge chicken coop, and we're going serious because There's something, again, like my spidey senses are tingling and they're saying, Seth, this isn't the time to relax.
	Keep preparing, keep focused, and make sure you're doing everything possible to protect your family.
	Well, Seth, I think you hit upon a really important point here, which is that, you know, as much as all of us here, we teach decentralization, voluntary decentralization.
	But it can also be forced upon us if there's a domestic war between, for example, the states and a Trump administration.
	We're already seeing early signs of that.
	We have the governor of Massachusetts saying that she's going to provide sanctuary to illegal aliens in the state and will not allow the federal government to deport them, even though they are in the country illegally.
	And even though seemingly the governor of Massachusetts must have sworn an oath of office that includes protecting and defending the Constitution of the United States of America, so she would be in violation of her oath.
	But we could rapidly see decentralization forced upon us if certain states, for example, the blue states in particular, decide to secede from the Union or refuse to recognize Trump as their president come January 20th.
	Is that a possible scenario that you are considering?
	Oh, absolutely.
	I mean, it's, it's, I mean, it's completely a possibility because, you know, going to the governor of Massachusetts, I mean, you know, typically, if you go back to, you know, the founding fathers and how they established our, you know, set up this constitutional republic, with the Constitution, everything is that,
	It was, in a lot of ways, meant to protect us from the federal government, but what happens if the federal government gets into the right hands, yet you have state governments that become corrupt and don't want to follow the Constitution as it should be, and then you have to have federal force coming in to state force, and again, the State National Guard, etc., are they going to be Are they going to be following the president and the constitution?
	Are they following the orders of the governor?
	I see that there's a lot of different scenarios that could lead to some sort of, I'm not going to say full-blown civil war, but definitely civil conflict in America that could absolutely disrupt an already extremely fragile supply chain.
	So, yeah, I'm worried about the same thing you guys are worried about.
	Alright, now Todd, you're in the clear because you're in Florida, and Florida went so red.
	I mean, there's no conflict in Florida, it appears.
	How are you feeling?
	I am grateful to be in Florida, but I do have a really, really good memory some days.
	Seth, first of all, it's a pleasure having you on.
	Thanks for joining us.
	Fair warning, though, I tend to set the table a bit with my questions, so bear with me, please, because I want to touch upon what you just said earlier about feeling at ease, but not.
	Right?
	And I just think everybody needs a public service announcement.
	They need to be able to hear what I'm going to say.
	So again, allow me to unpack this.
	Seth, today the wicked liberal leftists, they're conveniently calling for unity.
	We've been hearing it ever since, you know, yesterday.
	Well, I think we all keep receipts, right?
	We should keep receipts and remember.
	So allow me to offer the viewers several reminders.
	In 2022, the same demons calling for unity today wanted fines for the unvaccinated.
	They supported locking us up in our own homes and even having us sent to quarantine camps.
	There were discussions about that.
	They demanded our children be taken from us for us refusing clot shots for them, if you recall.
	And they commanded...
	Critics of the vaccines that they be entirely censored and deplatformed.
	So these same unity seekers, they even lamented over the bullet missing Trump's head.
	In summary, they want you dead, your wife raped, your daughter gay, your son trans, and your unborn child aborted.
	And I submit to you, Seth, that there is no forgiveness, no unity, without what?
	Without repentance, right?
	We have to remember that.
	And there can only be, and there can be no unity with those who cling to their wickedness.
	And we have to understand that this wicked liberal left is just that.
	It's wicked.
	So that's not going to go away based upon Kamala Kazi actually saying, we are the party of unity.
	What say you, Seth?
	Yeah, I think that we have to have a reckoning because for us to move forward as a country, we have to be on the same page.
	And this is one of the keys here.
	And a lot of it, I go back to the mainstream media.
	I go back to big tech and what they've done to the country and just the brainwashing campaigns that they have initiated.
	I mean, massive, massive psychological operations that are Probably a thousand times deeper than even the three of us could comprehend in terms of their technology, their AI, and who knows what else.
	And so I think, though, that repentance is a process of coming back to the truth, right?
	Coming back to God's truth that there are two genders, that There are very clear rules that we have that when we go so far outside of those, it doesn't work.
	And if we want America to continue, we have to be able to come to an agreed-upon idea of truth, which actually, I think Trump just put out a message on day one, I think that he's going to start really attacking this gender ideology, and even the federal government will only recognize two genders.
	He's going to pull all that stuff out, which is great, right?
	Because to me, that's a step, because The thing is, is that if you say your neighbor has a complete psychosis and say they're convinced it's World War II and then they're pulling out an old M4 at you every time you walk onto their property, they have to realize that it's not World War II anymore and they have to come to the conclusion that they basically accept reality.
	And so, yeah, there are going to be, I think there's going to be a lot of people That in this process that would have been, you know, they were diehard Biden's fans.
	Maybe they second guessed Kamala.
	Now their whole world is shattered.
	Maybe there's a lot of them that say, wow, maybe my friend was right.
	Maybe Seth was right.
	Maybe Mike was right.
	And they're going to come back and say, you know what?
	Look, I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry that, you know, I kind of got pulled into that.
	But my concern, though, is there's a lot of people, I think, They're just gonna double down and triple down.
	And they're gonna be convinced that Trump is Hitler.
	They're gonna be convinced that any white male is a threat to their life.
	And I think those are the people that we really have to worry about because I don't think as much as they talk about unity, I'm not going to unify around lies.
	It's a principle.
	I stand for truth.
	And so I'm not going to play make-believe and accept this alternate reality where you can be a cat if you believe you're a cat.
	So I think that the tricky place in this is because That reconciliation that has to happen is going to be very disruptive to a lot of people, and I think there's a lot of people that won't do it, and that's what concerns me moving forward.
	But Seth, well, I agree with what you just said.
	I just want to add to it that this great shattering, as let's just call it that now, the great shattering of the delusions, We're good to go.
	And by the way, just as a side note, this is not normally the topic of discussion of this show, but it's relevant because I say the great shattering will also lead to then the great scattering, because people are going to leave these cities of delusion.
	They will leave the cities...
	Which is, I mean, we love the idea of people getting out into the real world.
	You know, it's easy to live in a delusion in a city when you're not interacting with nature.
	But nature is the ultimate truth teller.
	And when you're on a farm and you're growing food, you can't be delusional and make up your own rules because nature and God are going to tell you something different.
	You've got to work with the rules of nature, right?
	So if the great shattering leads to the great scattering and people have to flee these collapsing left-wing cities filled with delusion, then this is going to end up ultimately red-pilling a bunch of people as they are forced to accept the reality.
	Does that make sense?
	Oh, absolutely.
	It's a really good point, too, because the institutions that have reinforced these radical, radical ideas, they're not going to be able to do it anymore.
	And they're going to be actively shut down and defunded under the Trump administration.
	So that's a really, really good point that you bring up.
	But what it makes me think of Is what then happens when...
	I mean, it's not that everyone who leaves these collapsing blue cities is going to be friendly and coming to your doorstep saying, hey, look, I was wrong.
	I apologize.
	They might be saying, hey, where's food?
	Is that a garden growing?
	Do I hear chickens?
	Hey, is that a little kid I can take with me?
	It might lead to a...
	It's almost like if you find a nest of ants or spiders that's kind of keeping to itself, if you start poking it and all of a sudden they're going everywhere...
	This could be a pretty scary situation.
	Well, we have good answers to that.
	And I think Todd agrees with me on this, but I'll let him answer for himself.
	But on the compassion side, if somebody comes to my door asking for help, my answer is very simple.
	I've already made a massive donation to the church down the road.
	Here's how you get to that church.
	Go to the church.
	You'll get food and water and shelter that you need.
	So God bless you.
	There it is.
	But if you step across this gate, I'll probably shoot you.
	You know?
	So, I mean, that's the way it's going to go.
	And that's...
	I mean, Todd, what's your answer to that?
	I mean, like, you also want to donate and help people with your food for us and so on.
	But if somebody comes to steal your food for us and shoot your pet raccoons, what are you going to do to them?
	You know?
	I'm going to introduce him to Zeus, my German shepherd, that you don't want to mess with him.
	And he wears bulletproof armor, so you can't shoot him either, Mike.
	I actually have bulletproof armor for my dog, by the way.
	I bet you do.
	Why does that not surprise me, Seth?
	But this, well, back to you, Seth.
	I mean, it's just that we have to have compassion, but we also have to protect our communities and our property.
	Otherwise, we have nothing.
	I agree.
	I mean, because ultimately, yes, I need to have compassion.
	But my role as a father, you know, I've got an eight-month-old baby and a four-year-old little girl, both little girls.
	And I've got a wife.
	And ultimately, it is my job to protect them.
	And one of the ways I'm protecting them is making sure that we have food, making sure we can grow our own food, making sure that we have chickens producing eggs, all those things.
	And if someone is coming to threaten that food supply, you know, then look, I hope it never reaches that situation.
	But, ultimately, I have to protect my family, and I'm willing to.
	Unfortunately, I hate talking like that, but that's the reality.
	I mean, look, we have to be so PC these days, but you go back a couple hundred years, and this is just what every man would do.
	It's like, you cross that line, boy, I'm going to shoot you in the forehead.
	And it's like, that's what would have happened.
	You know what, gentlemen?
	The three most difficult sentences to string together at one point in time, and they're the three most difficult for a reason, and why it's not going to happen with the left, is, I'm sorry, I was wrong, please forgive me.
	Those are really hard to do, but for those who muster the courage to do that, it solves so many problems moving forward in relationally with different people.
	But I also hold on to that precious NPC theory of mine that most of the people in my operating reality, I don't believe, have possessed the ability to critically think.
	I think they're still going to get their download from the TV. So it's going to be very much...
	Very much instrumental on what the mainstream programming is moving forward.
	And what I noticed, and I'd love your opinion on this, and maybe this is the fake left, Mike, but the fake left seems to be that they're acquiescing because they realize the bull in the China shop is out and they better start protecting themselves so they're not this Well,
	let's ask Seth to reply to that one.
	Seth, do you have a take on that?
	Yeah, no, I certainly agree.
	I mean, we have to be vigilant because what we're dealing with, I mean, look, if you go and look at Marxism, which is, I believe, it's, in a lot of ways, I think Marxism is Satan's political branch.
	I think it's a specter.
	I think it's, in a lot of ways, it's ruling our world.
	Actually, the Epoch Times, they wrote a book series literally called The Specter of Communism is Ruling Our World.
	And so, you know, and if you look in the tents of Marxism, you look at how they act.
	It's the wolf in sheep's clothing.
	It's all about disguising.
	And so we have to be, again, be very, very vigilant.
	And I like your idea, Mike, of saying, look, I don't have anything that you can go to the local church.
	Maybe what I'll do is I'll put together some small packets of seeds.
	I've certainly stocked up on a lot of seeds.
	And maybe what I'll do is someone comes up and say, look, hey, here's a little envelope of some seeds.
	Go plant these.
	This is the best I can do for you and send them on their way.
	Yeah, and by the way, just to demonstrate how much I'm committed to this, you know, I've launched a church and the church has already raised over $500,000 in food donations and we've already shipped out $300,000 worth of food.
	And I've got about $200,000 of food here in Central Texas.
	Last weekend, I gave away $15,000 of food buckets in person, including to some local rescue groups.
	I mean, they came in with their pickup trucks, you know, the whole deal.
	So I want the audience to know that all of us, we're authentic.
	We have compassion.
	We want to help people.
	But we also cannot allow ourselves to be overrun.
	Now, Seth, kind of segueing from that is the idea that I don't think the left is going to just remain calm for very long.
	And they're going to fight Trump.
	And they're going to cause chaos.
	But this speaks to the importance of decentralized living, which is something that you have done, Seth.
	You have pursued and implemented very successfully, I would imagine.
	You and I have had many conversations about that over the years.
	And I'd like you to share with our audience some of the most successful strategies that you've implemented for decentralized living or off-grid living or let's just call it being resilient against uncertain times.
	What would you share?
	Well, sure.
	You can plug your book, too, because you've got a book about that.
	I will, certainly.
	Yes.
	It's a great book.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, so for anyone, especially that's living in the city or living in the suburbs right now, you can make changes.
	I know, Mike, you talk about this a lot in your books.
	I've listened to both your audiobooks.
	Specifically, was it the...
	I forget the...
	Resilient Prepping is...
	Resilient prepping was one of them, and then it was one about the reset, right?
	The global reset.
	Global reset, yeah.
	Yes.
	And so one of the big things is just looking, okay, where are you living?
	Well, go back to, say, 2019.
	I was living in a high-rise building.
	I was on, I think, the 42nd floor in Long Island City, New York.
	Wow.
	So I was living in probably what you could say was like the worst possible place that you want to be living.
	Not a survivable place.
	No, no.
	I mean, the best thing I had going for me was I had maybe like a 15-square-foot balcony that I could have grown some herbs on.
	So, you know, I went from that journey.
	I moved to Ohio, and my wife and I, we got about five acres of land.
	Now, we've since moved.
	We relocated.
	And I'm not telling people what state I'm in because it's crazy as it is.
	It is.
	People knew I was in Ohio.
	People figure out where I lived.
	I had people showing up at my door saying, hey, is this where Man in America lives?
	And so that's not why we moved, but we've since moved, and now we're on about seven acres.
	We're in the deep woods, and we're very, very actively preparing.
	But one thing that I Obviously, I've done a lot of things that you talked about, Mike, in terms of looking at high-tech, low-tech, no-tech.
	We've got everything from a Kubota diesel tractor with a PTO generator, I think 8-kilowatt generator that I can use to plug into our house with diesel stored.
	We've got a couple solar generators.
	I just got an EcoFlow 4000-watt solar generator from Satellite Phone Store with Tina over there.
	Fantastic company.
	We've got solar on the house.
	We have a wood-burning fireplace that will heat the entire home.
	I tested it out earlier this year unintentionally because our heater broke, so I was forced to use wood to heat our home.
	And so right now, we're kind of re-establishing because when we were back in Ohio, we had Almost everything.
	I probably had 15 cords of wood.
	We had 50 chickens.
	We had gardens.
	We had food forests.
	We had a lot of stuff.
	Unfortunately, we had to go through the process of uprooting and moving across the country and reestablishing.
	It was not easy because I was renting in a little condo house in a gated community for the first You know, for, you know, most the second half of last year, which was not the place that I wanted to be, but I've made this journey.
	So for the folks that are, again, living, say they're renting a townhome in a suburb that they're worried, you know, you can make changes, right?
	And look, I'm not a rich man, but we don't go on vacations.
	I don't own a bunch of sports cars.
	If there's ever any extra money I have, it's going into silver, brass, or seeds, or food.
	Those are my priorities.
	Thankfully, my wife is on the exact same page, even more so because she listens to the Mike Adams podcast way more often than I do because I'm just really busy.
	She's always the one coming to me and saying, Hey, Seth, I just ordered a one-year supply of this.
	I got two-year supplies of this.
	I got the chlorine dioxide.
	So thankfully, she's tuning in and she's coming to me and saying, okay, hey, Mike recommends colloidal silver for this.
	I've got a carton of it arriving.
	So that's good.
	But we've really worked.
	So what we're doing right now, We're just like, actually literally tomorrow, I'm doing a six-hour round trip to go buy some chickens.
	I finally found some nice pullets that are going to be, you know, good chickens for where we live.
	We're just finishing up a chicken coop and we're building, it's really a chicken fortress.
	I poured concrete.
	I got a contractor building it with, you know, like all the bells and whistles because we live in bear country.
	So I've got black bears coming.
	So I'm basically trying to bear proof it the best that we can.
	Oh, wow.
	I've never had to defend chickens from bears.
	That's...
	Yeah, and I talked to someone locally and they said actually the best thing you can do is you put up an electric fence wire, solar powered electric fence, and they said put baking grease on the entire wire.
	So that way if a bear comes up, they lick the electrical wire, they're not coming back to your chicken coop again.
	So that was the advice.
	From the neighbors, but you know, I can say that one thing that I'm focusing a lot more on, and this is something that was interesting.
	So when we moved to Ohio, we were very isolated.
	We were about an hour and a half outside of Columbus.
	My family was all in Columbus.
	We didn't really know that many people.
	And there's really no community.
	And so what we've done now is we've picked a location where we had a lot of friends and a lot of people that we know very well.
	And so the key right now is I've been really focusing on is I think one of the biggest areas that I missed in my previous preparedness was previously preparing for me was stock up and arm up.
	And that was what preparation was.
	Make sure you got, you know, food, water, all the things that, you know, Mike, you cover extensively, but there wasn't that community.
	And so what I'm doing right now is, in this region I'm at, I've already met the local sheriff.
	I'm set up a meeting to go in and meet him as other key deputies.
	He's someone that absolutely, you know, cherishes the Constitution and will stand for the Constitution.
	But I'm also making an effort now to meet up with my neighbors.
	Because this is the thing is that if I'm, you know, look, you know, I don't have a fortress.
	We're on seven acres, but still seven acres.
	You know, if you've got a, if you have a gang of, you know, Venezuelans coming in a pickup truck and say it's late at night and all five of them hop out and they can walk up on the property.
	We just got dogs, but they're puppies right now, so they're not going to be protecting very much.
	The key is that if I can then very quickly pull out a radio system I've set up with my neighbors and say, hey, I've got someone here, I need you ASAP. If I've got five armed neighbors that instantly come to my house, And if they are also, if they're contacting the local sheriff who also knows where I live, and if the sheriff backup is coming, you know, say 10 minutes after that, that's my chance of survival.
	So I'm really trying to lean on building that local community.
	We're five minutes from our local milk farm, so thankfully we're in a region where I can buy raw milk, which is great.
	So we positioned ourselves so that we are very much so building this hyper-local community And even the neighbors, one of my neighbors, his main gig is firewood.
	So he's probably got 15 acres.
	Probably a third of it is full of logs.
	So he's dropping off firewood for me.
	I got a good deal from him.
	The neighbor across the street is a nurse.
	So I've met them.
	And so this is what I'm looking at is instead of just looking at, okay, how can I do everything on my own in isolation?
	We're really focused on trying to build this community of people, of like-minded people, That if things go south, we can band together, that we can drag some big logs across the ends of our street that we live on, and we can form our own little community here to protect ourselves.
	And that's been one of the biggest changes that I've gone through in preparedness, is it's going from making sure that my own home is a fortress, I've got everything I need, and we're kind of there, but now to kind of extend out to my local community.
	And that's what we're really focused on right now.
	That's huge.
	It feels great.
	Hugely important.
	Yeah, go ahead, Todd.
	Quick question.
	So how have your neighbors responded to that, the approach and the engagement?
	So far, really well.
	And what I've done, the guy that has brought me firewood, you know, I only met him maybe a month or so ago.
	So, you know, because we've only been here, we bought our house earlier this year, and we've done a bunch of renovations, and so we've been really busy.
	But, you know, how I approached it is I just said, hey, I said, just so you know, I think he aligns with me politically, which is great, but I said, hey, because even someone that maybe has a Trump flag, they may not be that prepared.
	It doesn't mean that they're going to be someone that knows how to use an AR that has a plate carrier they can throw on if they need to.
	That is what it is.
	So what I've done is I've just kind of introduced it and said, hey, he was here a couple of weeks ago dropping off some firewood.
	I said, hey, Jeff, just so you know, If things are kind of dicey, if there's ever anything that you need, if something's in trouble, please call me.
	I said, I believe the Second Amendment and I will be at your side.
	And he said, gosh, thank you.
	I'm going to do the same for you.
	And I find that's actually one of the best ways to do it is just starting there and just telling them, hey, if you need me, you offer them that and they're going to come back.
	And so I haven't talked to the nurse yet.
	I haven't had that conversation yet, but it's going to be the same thing.
	Look, I really believe in self-sufficiency, and if there's anything I can do for you, you have my number, and here's what we can do.
	I think the next step, which is when we're preparing for the next step of that, which is going to be calling a little bit of a meeting among my neighbors and actually talking through, hey, how are we going to communicate?
	So I recently got a sat phone and a bivvy stick from the satellite phone store.
	So I'll talk to them about that and say, hey, just so you guys know, I've got Starlink, I've got Solar, I've got a sat phone and a bivvy stick.
	Again, if you need communication in a grid down scenario, I'm so happy to help out.
	But also even getting some local CB radios that we can use or communication is really important.
	So that's going to be some of the other conversations with them is talking to them and say, hey, if cell towers are down, if the grid's down, Can we still communicate with each other?
	Set up the communication for that.
	And my goal is eventually to get to a point where maybe there's a monthly meeting.
	Maybe it's at my house or my neighbor's house where we get together and we start talking about scenarios.
	Okay, what happens if this?
	What happens if this, right?
	And to me, these are the steps I'm taking.
	I've also...
	The local farmers that run the milk farm that we get our milk at, the other farm market that we go to is a farm that has a little farm stand about five minutes away from us.
	I've had these conversations and say, hey, what would you do if the government tries to come in here and shut down your milk sales because of bird flu?
	Because obviously they're targeting raw milk.
	And so I've started having these conversations with them.
	And I think that's one of the keys is just Finding out that, hey, actually, these people are actually very much on the same page as me because I think that as bad as a major disruption would be, especially to our supply chain, it could be one of the best things ever because if you want to build local community, cut off the grid in a way that you'll see very quickly the right people will come together and start building these communities.
	So that's where I'm starting.
	There's a lot of conversations like that.
	That's so smart.
	Oh, go ahead, Mike.
	Well, I'm really glad you mentioned Tina and the Satellite Phone Store.
	Tina was just here a few days ago, by the way.
	And the Satellite Phone Store is the official sponsor of this show.
	I just want to mention, folks, if you want to go to sat123.com, that'll bring you to the satellite phone store, and you can get all this equipment.
	And they have a new line of bags, Faraday EMF blocking bags.
	They've got this rugged ballistic backpack that has bulletproof material and four different Faraday locations in it.
	And we've got these at the Health Ranger store, healthrangerstore.com slash escape.
	They've got a laptop bag and, you know, phone, Faraday bags for phones, smaller backpacks and tablet devices and so on.
	So this is a new line from Tina's company, the Satellite Phone Store.
	And Tina's been very generous.
	She's been donating a lot of gear to a lot of people, even those in Texas who are protecting our border.
	And so, you know, I'm very glad that you're taking advantage of those products, and thank you for mentioning them.
	They are a great sponsor.
	But you and I both know also we don't want people to make the mistake of trying to tech their way out of a preparedness responsibility.
	And, like, Todd, you know this, too.
	Like, growing a food forest is a deeply hands-on experience, especially since you just went through a hurricane.
	Yeah.
	Or, if not, more than one.
	But we've got to have the skills, too.
	And you're on board with this, Seth.
	You've got to have the skills.
	But, Todd, would you first talk...
	Oh, and let me mention Seth's website, too.
	Is it preplikenoa.com?
	Is that it?
	Oh, yeah.
	Actually, I forgot to plug my own thing.
	I said, yes, I'm...
	I'm in the final stages of writing a book.
	It's called Prep Like Noah.
	And just like you've done, Mike, I'm giving it away for free.
	The book is not, I'm not writing it to put up on Amazon, try to sell it a bunch.
	And so that's my main website there is maninamerica.com.
	But if folks go to preplikenoah.com, they can put their email in there.
	And then as soon as the book is ready, I'm sending it out to people.
	And the idea behind the book, and why is it called Prep Like Noah, is because I really believe that we're living in the days of Noah.
	We've got genetic modification happening.
	We've got rampant evil and chaos.
	And this is one of the things that often I mention, and I talk about in the introduction to the book there.
	If you go to Prep Like Noah, it just takes you to that landing page right there where you can sign up, is that If you look at what the Earth was like in Noah's time, and everyone says, yeah, we're living in the days of Noah.
	Well, folks, we have to realize that it took a flood to get rid of the evil in Noah's time.
	True.
	So to think that we're, it's like everyone's so caught, you know, casually says, oh, we're living in the days of Noah.
	Hey, who's playing on the football game tonight?
	Right?
	It's like, the reality is, is that There's a lot of evil on this earth, and if that evil is to be wiped out, it's going to create chaos.
	There's no way around it.
	We have one of the best lessons in history for that.
	But the angle I'm taking with the book is that if you look at Noah, Noah wasn't building an ark because God wanted an example of a great ark to preserve for the future.
	He built an ark because God needed him to rebuild mankind after the destruction of the evil.
	And that's the whole point is that people like yourselves and our audiences and the good people that are following God, they're following virtue.
	I really believe that we need to get through whatever's coming up here because we have to be the ones to help rebuild on the other side.
	And so that to me, that's the calling.
	That's like, ultimately, of course, I want to protect my family.
	Of course, I want to help build a community.
	But fundamentally, I'm preparing because I feel like God has a mission for me and that I can't see the future.
	Obviously, I had no idea what the future holds, but I do believe that we're going through a phase of the evil being wiped out on earth and there's going to be a lot of chaos.
	But I also believe that on the other side of that, there's going to be some very important roles for the people that make it and for the good people that make it.
	The idea with the book of Prep Like Noah, it's nothing as comprehensive as some of your books, Mike, which are so deep into low-tech, high-tech, no-tech.
	They're fantastic.
	I'm writing this more like a prepping 101.
	It's a lot of bullet points.
	It's very simple.
	It's just for somebody that is...
	Maybe new to prepping or mediocre prepping.
	Mike, you'll probably read the book and it'll make perfect sense for you.
	You can probably check off every box in the book.
	Yep, done that, done that, done that.
	It's to make it really easy for people that say folks are living in a town home in a suburb.
	What can they do, right?
	For folks who are living on an acre of land and they're just starting and they, hey, should I get backyard chickens or should I buy some food first?
	So the idea is it's really, again, it's just prepping 101.
	Well, let me interrupt you.
	I'm sorry, but right after the North Carolina storms that just hit, and Todd, again, you lived through the storm that hit Florida, I was shocked to find out how many people never owned a water filter.
	And I'm not trying to say it's the fault of those people whose homes were destroyed.
	Like, I understand, you know, if a mountain slide, a mudslide wipes out your home, yeah, I understand, you don't have a water filter, because it's gone.
	But people never had water filters.
	I'm shocked.
	I mean, how do you live in the world today and have no water supply and no water filter at all?
	I can't believe, given the unpredictability of our world, but I guess that's some of what you're teaching in your book, right, Seth?
	What happened?
	Everybody got zoomed in there all of a sudden.
	I think we lost Todd, and so everything changed.
	But Seth, go ahead and answer us, and we'll work on the screen.
	But what is it about people not covering the basics?
	You know, I think that a lot of it is a misunderstanding of what prepping is.
	Because if you go to the YouTube preppers, they say, hey, get a bug out bag and here's the 10 items you got to have and you're fine.
	And I think it's overlooking that.
	But yeah, I was talking to a guy that has a survival food company and he was telling me that he's done a lot of stuff in North Carolina.
	They've donated a bunch of food.
	It's similar to yourself, Mike.
	And I said, what was the most surprising part about that?
	And he goes, people living in a million dollar cabin That don't have clean water.
	He's like, do you know how many pallets of water we had to ship in to give these people bottled waters and pallets where you could have even, look, you can go to Amazon right now and get a little bottle of iodine tablets that you can drop into water that will give you purified water.
	But even that, and again, that's kind of why I'm writing this book and the way I'm doing is that it's like, it's 101.
	These are your basic things.
	The first chapter is water, right?
	It's the one thing that you need to have.
	Right, and in that storm in North Carolina, and I believe that was an engineered weather weapon, but that's a different topic.
	They had water everywhere.
	I mean, there was plenty of water.
	It just was heavily polluted and not drinkable unless you were able to purify it, right?
	Right.
	But I also then learned, because we shipped a lot of food out there, and people were so happy to get our food, because mostly they were getting energy drinks and processed garbage and diapers and water bottles and stuff.
	But we were shipping real food.
	But the thing is, you have to be able to boil water to cook quinoa or beans or rice or legumes or whatever.
	And I was shocked to learn that a lot of people don't have any means or experience boiling a pot of water if their stove doesn't work.
	Can you just go out in the backyard and figure out how to boil a pot of water?
	And the answer for a lot of people is no.
	How did your ancestors ever survive and not teach you this?
	It's like, it's the most basic thing.
	It really is.
	It's funny because one of the first things that I got after I left the city was I went to a garage sale and they had a bunch of little propane tanks used for gas grill.
	I bought six of them.
	I got them all filled and I bought a little gas burner that attaches to a propane tank.
	There you go.
	If you have to, you've got your propane tank.
	You can boil water.
	If you have a stock pot, there you go.
	But yeah, it's crazy.
	We talked about a reckoning.
	It's interesting because we're talking about the reckoning of the left, the lies of the mainstream media, but there's also a reckoning for a lot of Americans that are conservatives and following things.
	It's a reckoning of, hey, even though you're aligning yourself with the truth, You're not actually that prepared.
	And there's a reckoning because the thing is we're not living how our grandparents did.
	I remember going and visiting my great-grandma who survived the Great Depression, going down to her root cellar and seeing an entire wall of jarred food that she canned and seeing that she had a half-acre garden every single year.
	It was just how she did things.
	So there's a reckoning from a lot of people coming.
	And again, I was so surprised hearing these stories coming out of North Carolina of people that moved there to take their family off, you know, outside of the cities and have a safe place in nature, yet they didn't have a food supply, or they only had a couple days worth of food.
	They had no way of purifying water.
	They didn't have any other water.
	And these aren't people that had their entire house wiped out by a mud flood.
	And these are folks that, you know, they lost power.
	And now here they are two days later freaking out because they can't feed their families.
	Yeah, and welcome back, Todd.
	Did you have to reboot or something there?
	What happened?
	Yeah, sorry about that.
	It's all right.
	Don't prep like Pitner, I mean.
	Noah, I got your book.
	Do you have a section in there?
	There are some of us who live in an HOA community, so you have a section in there on a sample letter that you would write your HOA to build your ARC? That's a great question.
	I don't have that, but I should put that in there because it's funny enough, actually, back in Ohio where we lived, we were in this kind of like a nicer neighborhood, but it was a neighborhood that had a lot of land to it.
	And at one point, I think it was because of me, because I was in this nice neighborhood of doctors and lawyers.
	You come to my house, I've got construction supplies everywhere.
	I've got a tractor.
	I'm out there in a tank top.
	I've turned my front yard into gardens.
	I had chickens.
	And I think I pissed off all the neighbors.
	They tried to form an HOA because of me.
	Oh, that's great.
	Yeah, so I went to the neighborhood meeting where they're saying, okay, look, we want to form an HOA. And a lot of them expressed anger towards me for having chickens and a rooster.
	And my response to them, they said, look, I said, HOAs are like communism.
	They're really good in theory until you realize that someone else is taking charge.
	I said, so...
	I don't support communism, and I'm sure as hell not supporting an HOA. That was my stance at the meeting.
	But I should, though.
	I should have a guide for people that are in HOAs, which could be, hey, raise quail in your garage if you have to.
	Maybe you can have a chicken coop, but hey, you can have pets in your garage, can't you?
	So you can get quail, you raise them in your garage, or there's ways you can get around that.
	But I also think that at a certain point, if things start really going south, Those HOA rules are going to go out the way.
	Who cares about those things?
	Well, I know when I installed my HOA after we interviewed Jim Gale, my HOA gave me a real hard time.
	They wouldn't approve it until I got legal.
	And it was just slightly legal.
	It's just I knew who to talk to to be able to write the letter.
	And we wrote a very stern letter that cited case law in Florida about permaculture.
	And we were able to get it passed.
	So I do think there is an opportunity for you because we do speak with a lot of viewers who do live in HOA. So sometimes it's just not as easy as clicking your heels and installing a food forest or becoming self-sufficient, decentralizing.
	So maybe it is something to consider To be able to, and I'd be happy to show you the letter that I wrote.
	I know it's just for people in Florida, it'll work every time, but it could be expanded elsewhere as well, I'm sure.
	That's very helpful.
	This is why, you know, Seth, you just mentioned you've relocated in the last year or whatever it has been.
	I believe that choosing a location is critical in all of this.
	And I've spoken about this a lot.
	And, you know, Todd, you're you're in a red county in a red state.
	You've got a you've got Governor DeSantis.
	You know, politically, your risk is very low.
	You're in an HOA, but you've conquered that situation.
	A lot of other people are in a far more risky situation.
	And one of my predictions is that we're going to see refugees in America.
	Refugees in America.
	And I think it's not that far away, especially if we get into some of this kinetic conflict and states versus the Trump administration that we talked about earlier.
	You're going to see people having to flee areas because they're turned into, effectively, gang zones or illegal staging zones or war zones.
	I mean, we actually saw some of this with all these Haitians being dropped off in certain towns, and a lot of the Americans there are having to leave because they don't get free rent.
	They have to pay for rent, and the rents are all hiked up, so we're seeing displacements.
	But the last place you want to be Is on the road during any kind of crisis.
	You do not want to be on the road.
	That's where death is imminent.
	You want to hunker down someplace, and like what you're doing, Seth, you want to know the neighbors, you want to have each other's back, you want to have those relationships established beforehand so that you can help protect each other.
	But, you know, time is growing short to establish that.
	Weren't you even worried about how late in the game it was for you to move?
	Oh, gosh, yeah, we were freaking out.
	But, you know, one thing that I do address in the book is, you know, people, like, let's just say, you know, because I see the comments sometimes when I'm doing a show on preparedness, and I'll see the comment that says, I'm a single mom, like, living paycheck to paycheck, living in a small apartment in the city.
	What can I do?
	It's a very fair question.
	Not everyone can afford to go buy 10 acres out in the wilderness, let alone look at the housing prices, etc.
	So what I recommend for those people is, hey, here's what I do.
	A, skills are free.
	And they're very valuable in a grid-down scenario or in a disaster scenario.
	So learn how to mend clothes, learn animal husbandry, learn how to prepare food.
	But ultimately, one thing I say too is that, hey, say you live in a city, go back to Ohio as an example, or Texas, say you live in Dallas, And you're worried, okay, go 30 miles outside the city, go to the local farm market, find a farmer, connect with him, see how close he is.
	Ask him, say, hey, can I come volunteer on your farm once a week?
	I'd love to come volunteer once a week.
	I'll do whatever it is.
	I'll shovel crap.
	Whatever it is, I'd love to come volunteer.
	A lot of farmers would say, well, gosh, sure, I'd love to have an extra hand.
	Build a relationship with a farmer.
	And then if there's a scenario where, and I agree, Mike, you don't want to be on the road, but if you can read the tea leaves and you sense things are getting really, really rough or the situation that happens, you set that up.
	So what you do is you show up at that farmer's doorstep and you say, look, I left the city.
	I've got my kids.
	I'm worried about their survival.
	I will come.
	I will work for free.
	I'll sleep in your barn if I have to.
	Right?
	So those are the different solutions for that.
	Or bring a tent.
	Camp out on the farm.
	Exactly.
	Great idea.
	Right.
	Seth, that is awesome advice.
	Absolutely.
	You can make those relationships right now.
	You can learn skills right now.
	And frankly, you could just watch YouTube and learn all kinds of skills.
	YouTube, the one good thing that YouTube has going for it is all these DIY videos.
	Yeah.
	I wish we had a way to catalog all the DIY videos because I'm using YouTube doing electrical work or plumbing work or all the things around my house, repairing a hydraulic cylinder on a tractor, by the way.
	I don't know how to do that.
	YouTube knows how to do that.
	So yeah, learn the skills.
	Todd, you want to comment on that?
	And I think so much of it is just making the decision to do it, that just do it thing, right?
	Yeah, that's the hard part.
	And not fearing it and exercising that muscle of self-sufficiency.
	And I mean, it is amazing when you just do it, when you just start and you're like, I mean, Lord, I didn't know anything about food forestry a little over a year ago.
	Installed one, and nature kind of tells me what I need to learn real quickly.
	You know, when my German Shepherd breaches into the food forest and ruins it, I learned how to install a fence by myself.
	You know what I mean?
	And how to repair it, and how to be able to prune.
	And you make mistakes.
	And you learn from them.
	But it is a form of discovery, no matter what you're doing.
	And it's very, very exciting.
	So it's kind of like, in a weird kind of way, when this hurricane was coming, I was a little disappointed at Man, this is going to sound bad.
	But I was a little disappointed that it wasn't as bad as it was because I was so darn prepared for if it really did hit the fan.
	You know what I mean?
	I know that sounds horrible.
	And I don't wish that on anybody.
	Dude, I think your house was only like 10 miles an hour wind speed away from being blown away.
	I mean, you were right on the edge.
	Your roof is destroyed.
	Oh yeah, it totally.
	It totaled my roof.
	And by the way, there's a certain insurance company out there that has an S and an F in it.
	And I'm telling you, the F doesn't stand for farm.
	It stands for FU? Is that what it is?
	It's amazing how you pay so much into the insurance system, and then at the end, all they want to do is be able to battle you so that they don't have to pay.
	It's disgusting, actually.
	So, yeah, it's really fun.
	My point was, you were very close to the edge of...
	The way that storm rolled through, the north side of that storm had the highest winds, and that's exactly where your house was located.
	A hundred mile an hour wind, Gus.
	And as you know, off of my balcony in the back, I was recording before, during, and after.
	The during part was when that 100 mile an hour gust came and knowing that 100 tornadoes in Florida had touched down already, I didn't know if that howl I was hearing was from the wind gust or from a tornado.
	It scared the you-know-what out of me to where I went right down into our central pantry with my wife and dogs.
	And it was very scary.
	And that was just 100 miles an hour, a wind gust.
	I couldn't imagine a Category 4 or 5.
	I really couldn't.
	It's so scary.
	So from now on, I've always kind of poo-pooed these things.
	But if it is going to be a 4 or 5, my calculus might be a little differently about 10 north.
	Seth, isn't it true that these natural disasters help us drill and practice the skills that we're going to need anyway?
	Absolutely.
	Well, and that's the thing is that drilling and practicing is key.
	It's like owning a gun but never shooting it.
	It's like owning a thousand seeds but never planting one.
	And that was, you know, when my wife and I, we left New York City, it was back in 2020 time, right?
	Because it was right, you know, right actually before COVID hit.
	So we were living in a kind of luxury high-rise in this area.
	There were a lot of Chinese students.
	This was back in late 2019.
	And all of a sudden, all the Chinese were wearing masks.
	And I was like, this is strange.
	So I'd get in an elevator and there's six other Chinese all wearing a mask.
	This is like December 2019.
	And so we saw the writing on the wall and we were following you and all kinds of other people that were talking about these things.
	And so that was one of the signs of like, okay, it's time to get out of here.
	But so the next year we were back in Ohio, we built on some gardening before, but we built some garden beds, some raised beds and we started.
	And so it was practicing though, because for the person that thinks that they have a pack of seeds, they can survive.
	Is like woefully ignorant to the fact that there's a good chance your plants won't make it to the end.
	They won't produce food.
	There's going to be bugs you didn't realize you're going to have.
	All kinds of issues, not to mention soil quality.
	You can't just go dig a hole in your lawn and plant, except there to be nutrients, to grow.
	So getting into permaculture, building food forests, building food guilds, Where you've got, you know, things like, you know, planting comfrey, for instance, which is a miracle plant that will actually bring nutrients up into your garden.
	It has this deep, deep taproot that will bring nutrients up into your plants.
	You know, even things like that, you know, companion planting, planting onions and chives by your apple trees, planting wild horseradish near your other trees.
	So learning all those things, it was trial and error for us.
	And I... Even the first chicken coop I built, right?
	So my first chicken coop I built, which I'm pretty sure, as funny as it is, I'm pretty sure that Babylon Bee wrote an article about me building my chicken coop.
	No way.
	Oh, I'm serious.
	Mike, I'll send it to you.
	It was something about how Dad builds $5,000 chicken coop to get 17 cent eggs for free.
	Because I was talking about a lot of my show, and I think one of the writers must have been a fan of the show, because it was exactly me.
	That's funny.
	I was in a pair of Birkenstocks working.
	Stupid me.
	I came from the city.
	I grew up in the country in Ohio.
	I lost a lot of that living in New York City.
	I dropped a four-by-eight sheet of three-quarter-inch plywood square on my bare toes.
	Oh, gosh.
	I broke some toes.
	A couple weeks later, I was repairing the roof of my chicken coop.
	I had my eight-foot ladder with my drill on top.
	Forgot the drill was up there.
	Looking up, I moved my ladder.
	My drill came down, knocked out my front tooth, completely snapped it in half.
	So I had to cancel my show for a couple of days because I looked like an idiot.
	And I'd whistle when I tried talking because the air was coming out my tooth.
	So I went through this painful process and it was that times a million, but it was trial and error.
	But that's how we learned.
	And so now that's why I'm now, you know, our chicken coop is a fortress.
	I think a bear wouldn't be able to get into it.
	It's on a slab of concrete, so I'm not dealing with weasels coming up and wiping out my entire flock.
	I built a firewood shed that holds about six or seven cords of firewood.
	But that's the thing, though, is you have to get your hands dirty.
	You have to trial and error.
	Again, going back to Mike, you're very proficient with firearms.
	If you have a shotgun, but you've never used it, Good luck defending yourself at night when you're stressed when there's a burglar coming into your house.
	You have to practice these things.
	You have to live.
	You have to live exactly what you believe your core values to be.
	These skills, it's really critical to practice these skills beforehand so that you can perform these skills safely.
	You just mentioned a couple of accidents.
	I almost severed my index finger almost two years ago on my ranch.
	Fortunately, with natural health, we know how to heal those things.
	But chainsaws, you know, there are more accidents with chainsaws than any other single tool.
	And, you know, people cut themselves on their foreheads, and, of course, they cut their legs open with chainsaws all the time.
	But the other thing is, you saw a piece of wood, and you don't properly consider gravity and what's going to happen and the flexibility of wood and how this is going to fall and move and so on.
	And just gathering firewood can kill you, you know, if you don't know what you're doing.
	So practicing all these skills is absolutely critical to staying alive during hard times.
	And like you said, you're out in Birkenstocks.
	Yeah, you know, a person, you can't just go out and try to survive wearing sandals and no gloves and no eye protection and think like, okay, I'm just going to be a man now and I'm just going to like use these high-powered tools and see what happens.
	You know, you're going to get your eyes poked out.
	It's rough, man.
	Well, it's funny because my dad is a good example.
	So he was an Eagle Scout.
	He did all kinds of nature stuff.
	Very proficient, very handy guy.
	But when he was younger, he put an axe into his foot because he was chopping wood wrong.
	That was one lesson he had.
	And then even when he was older, maybe 10 years ago or maybe 20 years ago, he was clearing wood for a friend of ours, and he cut a tree down and realized there was a dead tree leaning up against it.
	The dead tree slid down the tree he cut down, took out his knee.
	So he had to have reconstructive surgery on his knee, and he was laid up on the couch for about a month and a half because of that.
	So if that happens, in a normal scenario where we've got functioning hospitals, it still sucks.
	But if you don't have that, you're never walking again.
	If you don't have the preparedness to deal with these things, even a small cut, if you don't know how to properly disinfect it, if you don't have colloidal silver, if that thing gets infected, if you don't have a store of antibiotics, if you don't know natural ways, natural antibiotics, then a single cut could be the thing that ends your life.
	We talked about water earlier.
	One of the biggest ways that people die during the disaster scenarios is by cholera or waterborne diseases because they're drinking from the river that there's 10 dead bodies upstream in and then they're dying.
	So these are critical skills that we have to have.
	And actually, oftentimes, it's not the bad guy that comes and shoots you that kills you.
	It's the little cut from a rusty nail that gets infected that that's what kills you in these situations.
	Yeah, that's true.
	Yeah.
	What are we drinking for dinner?
	Corpus tea.
	Yeah, actually.
	Something doesn't taste right about this.
	All right.
	Aside from being a little bit gruesome, this has been filled with a lot of really practical information.
	And Seth, I want to thank you for taking the time to join us and discuss all of this.
	I want to give out your website again, preplikenoha.com, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, so if you want to sign up to get the book when it comes out, again, it's free.
	We're also giving away a bunch of survival food so that they'll get a chance of winning that.
	But the key is that they'll get the book emailed to them.
	And my goal is to get it to as many people as possible because I really feel like it's part of Part of one of my duties and part of one of the reasons why God gave me this platform, and I think it's like what you're doing, Mike, is that I want to be able to help people.
	I want to be able to give people the tools that they need to survive whatever's coming.
	So yeah, preplikenoa.com is where they can go to get the book.
	It'll be emailed to them once it's finished, which probably You know, I'm dealing with the election.
	Obviously, that was a big, you know, kind of big idea, a six-hour live stream for that and a lot of preparation coming into the election.
	So I'll be getting back to the book, though, probably within the next couple of weeks or a month or so, we'll have that book finished up.
	But people can sign up today, though.
	That way, as soon as it is ready, it goes straight to their email when it's done.
	Okay.
	So before Christmas, for sure.
	Oh, absolutely.
	Yeah.
	Now that I'm focusing heavy on it again, so I should be able to finish it within the next couple of weeks or so.
	Okay, awesome.
	Todd, your final thoughts about our discussion today?
	Yeah, my final thought is just a quick question, if you could quickly answer, Seth, and that's, I want to unpack your Man in America tagline.
	How did that moniker come about?
	The soul of America is under attack.
	Or just the name Man in America?
	Okay, yeah, Man in America.
	Oh, yeah, it's funny because, gosh, this was probably...
	It was probably...
	It was 2020 in the summer, so before the election, and this is...
	General Flynn talked about digital soldiers and talked about the importance of independent media.
	And, you know, my wife and I were talking, and we were kind of talking, and I was like, well, I think I should start a podcast and start, you know, talking about these things.
	And I said, but who am I, though?
	I'm just some man in America.
	And my wife was like, that's it.
	You're a man in America, right?
	And that's the idea, is that it's not the Seth Whole House show, right?
	It's just...
	Man in America.
	Both of you are just men in America.
	That's the idea.
	It's the men in America.
	Obviously, I'm speaking to everybody in America, but I'm just the average guy that built a studio, started broadcasting, and this is what it is.
	It also gets into a different discussion, which is the importance of citizen media.
	The importance of, look at this election.
	They call it the podcast presidency for Trump.
	So it's so important that, in a lot of ways, you could say it's a civic duty.
	Not everyone should do it.
	People have different skills.
	But I think if people feel the calling, they should be doing what you guys are doing.
	Get in front of a camera and start talking.
	Because as the mainstream media collapses, which is what's happening, there's going to be a giant vacuum that our voices need to fill because people need folks like me that aren't backed by Pfizer.
	Telling them, don't go get that COVID vaccine.
	It's going to potentially kill you.
	I forgot to tell you, today's show was brought to you by Pfizer.
	Can you imagine, Seth, that if Kamala would have won, you would have, over the next four years, had to change that to, I self-identify as a man in America.
	That would be a way different logo than you have set up right now.
	Maybe a man in America.
	Yes.
	Exactly.
	Oh, wow.
	Well, that's a great origin story there.
	And we appreciate you, Seth.
	And thank your wife also for all that you're doing together.
	And thank her for supporting our store as well.
	And just keep doing what you're doing.
	We'll get together again soon.
	And it's just been a pleasure having you here today.
	Oh, thank you.
	Actually, one final shameless plug is that I'm putting out four or five shows a week.
	I'm not quite as prolific as you are, Mike, but doing 10 shows a day, it seems.
	No!
	But I've got four or five shows every week comes out.
	There's no paywall.
	Rumble, Brighteon, a great place.
	So any place that you find Mike's podcast, search for Man in America, you'll find my podcast as well.
	Okay, awesome.
	And maninamerica.com also is your main website.
	Yes, sir.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Perfect.
	So what we'll do is we're going to take a quick break.
	Todd and I will come back with a little bit of what we call an after-party discussion.
	But Seth, it's been a pleasure having you today.
	Thank you so much for joining us, and we'll talk again soon.
	All right.
	Thank you both.
	You're both fine gentlemen.
	I'll say it again because I believe you're both fine gentlemen.
	Strike two.
	Strike two.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Thank you, Seth.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	Well, Todd, us fine gentlemen should take a fine break.
	Okay.
	Because we are all very fine people, it turns out.
	Should we take a fine five?
	Let's take a fine five.
	We'll come back and we'll have a fine after party.
	Awesome.
	Sound good?
	All right.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Thank you, Seth.
	We'll be right back after this break.
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	Alright, welcome back folks to the after-party discussion.
	And Todd, you know, look, our guests just keep getting better.
	You know, Seth is amazing.
	I love his message.
	He's just so informed, so easy to talk to.
	We've got to have him back.
	We have to have him back, and I'm amazed, like Joel Salatin being tapped by the Trump administration, right?
	Yeah.
	So I wonder, where's Seth going to go?
	Where's he in the administration?
	Because now the bar is set.
	Every one of our guests needs to be placed somewhere, Mike.
	It's wild because about six people that I know and have interviewed have been tapped by the Trump administration.
	It's amazing.
	Including Michael Yan, by the way.
	They want his help on securing the open border situation.
	Wow!
	Yeah, and there's another man I know, I'm not sure if he wants to go public with it yet, who I have interviewed who's being tapped for USDA. And they may...
	Want my lab to be involved in helping to test soils for biosludge contamination.
	That's great.
	Yeah, we may end up actually donating lab time because, you know, you can trust us on it.
	We're not going to hide the results like maybe the EPA would.
	No, that's amazing.
	It is just a crazy chain of events that, I don't know, I'm back to my favorite vice of smoking hopium.
	Right.
	Well, you know, and this gets to our interview today.
	It's great to have optimism about the future.
	You know, you can take a toke of hopium, I suppose.
	But at the end, what if that's not the way this goes?
	Yeah, what if it's that fake left-go-right?
	And you know what?
	With who we're dealing with, it's not if, it's likely when.
	Yeah.
	I think so.
	I think we're headed into a time of incredible existential chaos for this country.
	And also even on a global scale.
	If you think about it, the U.S. is fighting for dollar dominance around the world.
	And it's losing that fight.
	It's losing that fight.
	And the dollar's days are numbered.
	They are.
	When the dollar collapses, you know...
	You're going to see...
	I mean, if you think it's bad after this election with people's world being shattered, wait till they lose their pensions, their bank accounts, all the value of their stocks and treasuries.
	When that's lost, this country is going to...
	I can't even describe the anarchy that's coming.
	I agree.
	It's right around the corner.
	That's why you have to prep like Noah.
	That's why you have to be a food prepper, a food forest prepper.
	You have to be a financial prepper, Mike, and do smart things.
	And that's what it's all about.
	And it's kind of like right now.
	Precious metals have taken a little bit of a dive.
	And it is so amazing how people don't appreciate this, you know, buy low, sell high.
	This is exactly the time that you dollar cost average into these assets.
	Totally.
	Not when things are going where the VIX scale is so high and in the red and people are so afraid that all of a sudden the gold is $4,000 an ounce.
	You know, I'm joking.
	But right now is when you take a deep breath and you say, ah, okay.
	Here's a little brief.
	Let's go get us.
	Totally.
	This gold and silver are going to keep on climbing, as far as I can tell, as the dollar loses value.
	But I'm glad you mentioned Prep Like Noah, because I think that's a great name.
	Seth really came up with a great name.
	And I look forward to his book, to seeing his book.
	But he told me a secret off camera.
	The original title was Prep Like Noah and Party Like Diddy.
	But his wife talked him out of that title.
	He's like, no, you can't do that.
	So he just went with prep like Noah.
	Well, Noah kind of did party like Diddy.
	Noah drank like Diddy, for sure.
	Or no, it was which one of his sons was partying like Diddy.
	Anyway, it doesn't matter.
	Yeah, it doesn't matter at this point.
	But yeah, do not party like Diddy, but definitely prep like Noah.
	Speaking of prepping, I want to just invite you here right away to talk about your offer, which is your...
	As part of you being on the show, you always have an opportunity to plug what you're involved with here.
	The vehicle that you offer people is really critical, I think, for financial preparedness, given what's coming.
	Can you talk about what that is?
	I'll bring up your website.
	Yeah, it's my575e.com and I would tell you that my form of activism is to help others keep more of what they earn.
	I learned about this entity that is very, very undiscovered.
	It is called an Unincorporated Nonprofit Association.
	You can learn about it at my575e.com.
	I invite you to go there and there's a 90-minute interview where I Interview a man named Dennis Gray, who is 81 years old.
	He has been helping people acquire these for 34 years.
	He's helped over a thousand people.
	I got mine from Dennis five years ago.
	And the tax advantages are real.
	It is one of these things to where I have to keep sharing with people.
	The only thing this is not is too good to be true.
	And as things are evolving, those of you who are into crypto, you're going to want to investigate this further because there's a real opportunity here to disassociate Your crypto from your social security number, you, and to your UNA's EIN number.
	And Mike, I just got a report from one of our members.
	One of the things everybody knows, if you acquire a UNA, you get invited to a private telegram group.
	There are over 50 of us in there and there are so many cool people.
	Not an NPC in the group.
	And I just had a celebration in there where a gentleman, I had helped him be able to get an account with Kraken for his UNA. It took him over six weeks to do this.
	You go back and forth.
	But Dennis and I have a cheat sheet of what they're going to ask and how you respond and everything.
	And he came in and he said, I got mine.
	Now, what does that mean?
	That means that if you end up selling your crypto And you off-ramp to your personal bank account, your social security number connected bank account, that's capital gains.
	You're going to be taxed accordingly.
	However, if you off-ramp it to your EIN, UNA number, Unincorporated Nonprofit Association, they're considered reserves.
	Those are not subject to the same tax.
	So I'm just telling you, if not anything else, go to my575e.com, watch the 90-minute interview with Dennis, download the instructional PDF, and if you have any other questions, You can book a half hour with me.
	It is $150 because I treasure my time and I don't want anyone wasting it, but everybody who has done that, when they get a UNA, and it's usually when, not if, then I just tell them to discount it, send it $150 less, wire it $150 less, or I will Zelle them $150.
	It's not about the $150.
	I want to answer your questions, but I have to be smart about my time allocation.
	Of course, yeah.
	Yeah, but this is changing people's lives.
	If you are a W-9 income earner, it would be irresponsible not to go at least get educated.
	If you're a W-2 earner, same thing.
	You can deduct up to 60% of your adjusted gross income with donations to your UNA. It's magical, Mike.
	Well, the tax laws are really written very favorably for non-profit associations and organizations.
	And even like I founded a church, and the church also shares a lot of similar properties in the tax code, for example.
	But if you look at all the big non-profits out there, like Susan G. Komen, It's a non-profit organization that actually shares the same benefits as what you're talking about.
	Yeah, the difference is, Mike, mine is accessible to normal people.
	Instead of having an army of accountants and lawyers and whatnot, these are so affordable to be able to start saving.
	Again, there isn't enough money in this for it to be my primary form of income.
	It's my form of activism.
	And I love it.
	And it is when you get into that private telegram group, you'll see the chemistry in there and how people are celebrating.
	I mean, it's just really, really cool.
	Okay.
	Well, so one question for you, but by the way, there's so many acronyms here with the UNA and so on.
	I think we should have a bumper sticker that says, my HOA is run by NPCs.
	So, you know, we should start with that.
	But what happens if Trump makes good on his promise?
	Well, he hasn't promised it yet, technically, but he's going to look at it, apparently.
	What if he ends the personal income tax at the federal level?
	What would that mean for your My575E?
	You would have way more money to be able to smoke your hopium, if you think that's ever gonna happen.
	But let's say, let's war game it out and say it does.
	There are other huge benefits with a UNA, which is you can donate your home to it, to where it is so protective of it, even if you had to file bankruptcy, Nobody can touch it.
	So it's also a way to kind of segment assets.
	Oh, 100%.
	In the PDF that people can download, there are 32 positive attributes of operating your own UNA. Wow.
	And so it's not just the tax advantages associated with it.
	So I put a lot of effort into being able to help educate people, Mike.
	Yeah, you have.
	Yeah.
	And by the way, everybody, if you have not watched our previous interview with Joshua Hale, please do go to decentralized.tv and watch that interview.
	He's the entrepreneur who helped me launch My575E, and we talk more about My575E in there, but I've had so many people Book with me, the half hour, who have said that they have also reached out to Joshua because they've had this entrepreneurial idea, and we on that show have unleashed, unleashed that energy, Mike.
	I mean, Joshua's calling me, thanking me.
	So it's really a great interview.
	You know, part of decentralizing your life is getting off of a corporate paycheck.
	And being able to run your own business and control your own finances, have your own revenue streams, right?
	Yes.
	This is really a key part of getting off-grid, if you will.
	And decentralized entrepreneurialism means, historically, we would have had to raise a lot of money to be able to hire all of the people who have the right skill sets.
	Chief marketing officer, chief financial officer, you know, operators.
	And with AI rightly leveraged, it doesn't have to be evil.
	It can be a very positive force as well to where you eliminate the need.
	You can tap into that type of resource, but you don't have to fund all of these individual salaries that make it impossible for anyone to realize their entrepreneurial dream these days.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	I think people also need to consider the risk of the fact that a lot of these centralized systems, corporations are going broke.
	Lots of chains are shutting down and governments are going broke and our government, our federal government, will be broke when the dollar collapses.
	And so it's kind of like...
	You can deliberately decentralize yourself right now from a really centralized income stream by building your own business.
	Joshua Hale helps people sort of make those business dreams a reality.
	But think about it.
	You don't have to earn as much if you have more control over what you do earn and you can put it to use in the right ways in more efficient ways because you have control over it.
	And you can lawfully operate it within an entity that lets you keep more of what you earn.
	There you go.
	I think, by the way, Todd, I've said this publicly, I think not only should Trump Shut down the IRS. Just completely banish the whole thing.
	It's a scam.
	They don't need our money to fund the government when they can print money.
	They just print money anyway.
	Why do they need to take it from us?
	But more importantly, they should refund the last five years of income taxes, at least at a personal level.
	I'm not saying corporate taxes yet at the moment, even though I understand corporate taxes.
	It's just a pass-through to higher product costs.
	But at least at the personal level, they should refund the last five years of taxes.
	And you want to talk about economic stimulus.
	Could you imagine?
	Imagine people getting five years of tax refunds Of all the taxes they paid, now of course prices would go up because now there's a lot more circulating money, but hey, they're going to print the dollar into oblivion anyway.
	They should give it back to us so we can buy something useful.
	Yeah, yeah.
	No, I think so, Mike.
	It's going to be exciting the next, well, the next four minutes, four days, four years.
	Yeah, it is going to be really interesting, that's for sure.
	All right, so my575e.com, that's your website.
	And I'm really glad that you have been pursuing this.
	I want to bring up now, the Satellite Phone Store is the sponsor here, sat123.com.
	But they have a new line of these bags that I mentioned earlier.
	So cool.
	And by the way, do we have some of those bags here in the studio?
	Can...
	uh tina gave me one of these backpacks and it's it's it's got a bulletproof panel in it it's a level 3a plus so it's bulletproof and it's got four faraday uh bags in it like four faraday sections all right so in here you can kind of see like this this is a ballistic panel that i'm tapping here oh hey there roadie how you doing you want to eat the backpack Yeah?
	Time to eat the backpack?
	It's a ballistic panel.
	It's bulletproof.
	It's also a roadie proof.
	Alright, it's okay.
	Just sit.
	Just sit.
	It's got some multiple...
	Oh, he's ready to play.
	But look at this.
	Here's another Faraday...
	Here, let me show it to that camera.
	Here's another Faraday section right here.
	And so on and so forth.
	You get the idea.
	There's multiple sections in here.
	This is like super durable ballistic, I would call it, you know, military grade, mil-spec type of material.
	And good boy, Rhodey, he's ready to play.
	This is all available at healthrangerstore.com slash escape.
	And it's not just the backpack, you know, it's the shoulder bag, the laptop bag, tablet bag, and also some other things such as, you know, sleeves, pouches for your mobile devices, mobile phones, and it protects you because it's an EMF, right?
	EMF shield material.
	Right.
	So it protects your privacy.
	They can't scan your location when your phone is in this.
	So if you had your phone in one of these on January 6th, They wouldn't have been able to track that you were even there, and they wouldn't be kicking in your doors and arresting you just for being there, being a peaceful protester.
	So this is the way to protect your privacy, protect your electronics, protection from EMP attacks and solar flares, and also ballistic protection.
	So all of that's available now.
	HealthRangerStore.com slash escape.
	And you can also find them at SAT123.com with the satellite phones and the backup power supplies and everything else.
	So...
	You know, very cool stuff.
	That's our official sponsor of the show today.
	Todd, I know you have a satellite phone.
	Have you?
	I know.
	I know.
	I used it during the hurricane to communicate with you.
	Do you carry it in your car or do you take it with you?
	What do you do with it?
	I haven't lately because there just hasn't been any kind of weather event or anything.
	And you know, I've been traveling.
	I'm I went up to Kansas, so I didn't mess with it.
	I probably should have.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Bring it everywhere you go.
	Bring it in your car, just in case everything goes bad.
	Yeah, you're right.
	I mean, I need to exercise that muscle.
	I mean, it was great for the hurricane and the tragedy and the potential tragedy, you know, but I need to just make it part of my life.
	Okay, absolutely.
	Well, I'm so glad that we both have this preparedness, and we can share it with our audience, and Seth is well prepared as well.
	And I just want to encourage folks, even if you can't afford...
	Like, none of this stuff is inexpensive.
	Like, you know, the satellite phones...
	Obviously, there's a cost associated with this.
	But even if you don't have spare money, you can learn skills for free.
	Like Seth said, you can practice skills for free.
	And that has value.
	You can trade skills for food.
	You can trade skills for shelter in a crisis scenario.
	Even if you own nothing, you can have skills that obviously stay with you as you're mobile.
	And that can help you survive.
	So everybody can do something to be prepared and to be more decentralized.
	And that's the theme of the show.
	It is, because decentralized solutions are going to get us to the other side of all of this, Mike.
	That's right, 100%.
	All right, Todd, well, thank you for joining us today.
	This has been another fantastic show, one of many, and many more yet to come.
	But we appreciate you, Todd.
	Thanks for being here today.
	Thank you, Mike, and thank you to all the viewers.
	You are...
	Making this show very, very popular, and we're grateful.
	Absolutely.
	We're very grateful.
	Thank you for all your support, and be sure to check out all the other episodes, folks, at decentralized.tv.
	These are all evergreen episodes.
	You can watch them at any time.
	You'll learn an amazing assortment of skills and knowledge that can help you survive anything that's coming and to help you decentralize your life, which means more sustainability, redundancy, and liberty at the same time.
	So thank you all for watching today from myself and Todd Pitner.
	God bless you all.
	Join us next time here at decentralized.tv.

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