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BBN, Oct 25, 2024 – To hurt Kamala and help Trump, ZIONISTS WANT WAR...
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Welcome to Brighteon Broadcast News for Friday, October 25th, 2024.
I'm Mike Adams.
Thank you for joining me today.
I've got an interesting interview for you, a very powerful interview with Joel Salatin from Polyface Farms.
Also, I'll be featuring a special report podcast that may end my career.
Yeah, seriously.
But I've decided it has to be published.
And it's called, This Podcast May End My Career.
Mike Adams Calls Out Zionist Money and Infiltration of MAGA and MAHA. Yes, I'm going there.
And you'll find out why.
Because, well, some of the news today is that the U.S. House of Representatives has passed a bill That would outlaw parts of the Bible, specifically any part that shows that the Jews killed Jesus Christ, which of course they did.
It's called the Anti-Semitism Awareness Act, and it says that it's hatred toward Jews to quote the Bible.
So all of you Christians who are supporting Zionism and Judaism, Yeah, you're all about to be thrown in jail, by the way.
And I might be in jail with you because I will not be silent.
I will challenge the government's laws on First Amendment grounds.
But they're saying that if you cite the Bible, such as John 19 or Acts 4, which I just taught in a sermon, Where Peter is talking to the Jews, and Peter is saying, you, you, you crucified Jesus.
You killed him.
You killed the Son of God.
And, you know, in John and in Mark, all throughout the New Testament, there are references to the Jews killing Christ.
But if you cite that, then you could go to jail.
You will be branded an anti-Semite under U.S. law.
Marjorie Taylor Greene opposed the bill.
She said, quote, anti-Semitism is wrong, but she would not support legislation that, quote, could convict Christians of anti-Semitism for believing the gospel that says Jesus was handed over to Herod to be crucified by the Jews.
Yeah, it was the Jews that demanded he be murdered, killed.
They screamed it, crucify him, crucify him.
It will also be against the law in America to, quote, accuse Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel than to the interests of their own nations.
So in other words, if you have dual citizens who are members of Congress, like Representative Brian Mast, I believe, who came to the House of Representatives wearing an IDF uniform, if you say, well, you're more loyal to Israel than to America, that's a crime.
That's right.
Or if you say that Jews control everything.
If you say that Jews control the media or control the CDC or control the FDA, which they do.
Or if you say they control almost all the big investment funds, the hedge funds, the banks, which they do.
But if you say that, that will be a crime in America.
It was approved by a vote of 320 to 91 in the House of Representatives.
Only 21 Republicans opposed it.
70 Democrats opposed it.
And initially this affects the U.S. Department of Education, but it's clear that the intention is to broaden this to all United States citizens.
So this is a Zionist attack on the First Amendment in the United States.
And yet right now the MAGA movement, Donald Trump, and the Maha movement, which will say RFK Jr.
and his supporters and campaign finance people are almost all funded by Zionist money.
And that's the subject of my special report, which we'll get to here in a little bit.
But we are rapidly moving into an era, well, Well, I'll say transitioning out of the left-wing Marxist-Democrat authoritarian censorship and tyranny and moving into right-wing Zionist authoritarianism and tyranny in the United States.
So, you know, what do they say?
Out of the frying pan and into the fire?
Yeah, into the fire of Zionism, where you're not allowed to question anything unless the Zionists approve of the narrative in advance.
And of course, if you dare mention that Israel is committing genocide, which it is, then you'll be debanked, you'll be censored, you may be arrested, you may be imprisoned.
And that will likely happen under Trump.
And RFK Jr.
will probably say nothing at all against it because he's funded by Zionist money as well, which we'll get to.
We'll get to that report.
I'm not saying he's a bad person, nor am I saying that about Trump.
What I'm saying is that the money controls them at that level, and it's Zionist money, $100 million from just one Zionist widow, I think this is also why Elon Musk will not speak out against Israel's genocide, not in any way whatsoever.
So this is actually really critical because we're looking at the deliberate destruction of the Constitution and the subjugation of America by Zionists.
So remember when I said that everything they've done to Gaza, they plan to do to you.
Well, Gaza is And this is why I have said that unless Trump denounces Israel's genocide, I cannot vote for Trump.
And I've had a lot of discussions with a lot of people.
And some people are unhappy that I've said that.
Other people respect it.
I'm not out there trying to force anybody else to...
I'm not demanding that you do what I'm doing, but I'm going to write in Dr.
Shiva.
Because he's the only candidate that's really anti-Zionist, as far as I can tell.
It's a protest vote, you know, on my behalf.
But again, if I were in a swing state, I would vote for Trump.
I don't know.
If I were in Pennsylvania, for sure, I would vote for Trump, and I would just...
I don't know.
I'd have to ask God for forgiveness or something.
But I'm in Texas.
Trump's going to win Texas.
So it doesn't really matter electorally.
So I'm going to vote against Trump in Texas.
At least that's my plan.
Because I don't think Trump is going to denounce genocide.
But the threat to America is that America becomes occupied.
I mean, it's already half-occupied by Zionism all throughout the federal government, the Biden regime.
It is, you know, over 50% Zionists running that thing.
And all the, you know, the CDC, FDA, the people who ran the COVID pandemic, Zionists, you know, they didn't care about your rights.
They didn't care about your freedoms.
They just pushed vaccine mandates and bioweapons to murder all of you.
You notice that?
Yeah, Zionism carries out genocide against the Palestinian children and depopulation against the American people.
So, you know, it's really a satanic death cult of global depopulation.
And if you support Israel, you should probably also support Bill Gates because they have the same goal, which is the destruction of humankind.
Seriously, they're identical, isn't it?
It's just different methods.
Bill Gates wants to achieve infertility and mass death through vaccines.
Israel just wants to bomb and murder everybody and starve people with engineered famine and destroying the water supply and making areas unlivable.
So you move out and then Israel comes in and steals the territory.
But that's what Israel does and that is supported by By Donald Trump and RFK Jr.
and their supporters.
And Charlie Kirk, you know, of course, and Ben Shapiro and a lot of these, you know, so-called conservative podcasters.
Mark Levin is like a rabid, like, use the nukes, you know?
I mean, that guy has lost his mind, in my view.
And, you know, we're in real danger here in America.
If we think that, you know, you have to get Trump into office at all costs, you know, regardless of what he does to America once he's in power in order to appease the Zionist donors.
Is Trump willing to throw the First Amendment under the bus?
I think the answer is clearly yes.
He's already promised that he will do that.
Well, if he's willing to throw the First Amendment, you know, under the bus, so to speak, what about the Second Amendment?
Well, he supported the bump stock ban.
Right?
And what about the Fourth Amendment?
What about the Fifth Amendment?
No, it's a slippery slope, folks.
Be careful what you vote for.
I'm not saying that...
Look, Kamala's a disaster.
Let me be clear.
Kamala's a disaster.
We absolutely have to oppose Kamala and Biden and the O'Biden administration.
They are a bunch of crooks.
They are criminals.
They rigged the 2020 election.
There's no question about it.
They are a danger to humanity and a danger to America.
They are actively seeking to destroy America.
Okay?
So let me be clear.
But under the rule of Zionism, Trump would also take steps that would destroy America in a different way and make America beholden to Zionist interests and you're only allowed to speak if you support Israel.
And that's not America either, is it?
That's not America.
What do we have left if the First Amendment is outlawed?
I will sue you.
And we will win.
We will win a court injunction in a federal court and we will stop that insanity because the First Amendment protects our right to disagree with Israel, to disagree with foreign nations, especially those that are carrying out acts of, let's face it, a modern-day Middle East Holocaust.
I will not be complicit in Israel's Holocaust, even if Trump will.
I refuse to be.
And I just encourage every single person Look deep into your soul, your record of how this is unfolding.
I tweeted out earlier, I said, our actions taken today are being burned into the fabric of history in real time.
There is no redo.
Every moral decision counts.
When the history of Gaza, Israel, and the Holocaust of the Middle East is written, what will it say about your actions and decisions today?
And I've also said about MAGA and Make America Great Again, I've said that no nation that is complicit in genocide can ever be great again.
If your nation is complicit in genocide, you're done.
You've lost your moral standing, and you've lost the protection of God, by the way.
And that's why the United States and Israel are going to be, well, they're going to collapse.
Israel will likely be destroyed.
The United States will collapse.
Both of these nations have lost the protection of God.
You know, that's a different discussion, more of a sermon discussion, but they have.
And so God's not going to save Israel.
God does not save nations that commit genocide.
And God's not going to save America.
And the Christians in America who think that God's going to save Israel and who think that Israel is on their side, well, I guess they can tell each other that in prison.
After they're arrested for reading out loud John chapter 19.
Because, you know, you're going to be arrested under Trump.
And anybody who thinks America can be saved by God, because, look, the Christian pastors, especially the Christian Zionist pastors, are pushing this nonsense.
They think God will save America as long as America supports genocide for Israel.
I mean, do these people hear themselves?
They think God will save America.
They think there's going to be a great revival in America because God will give America another chance.
Really?
After America supports the mass slaughter of the children of God, the daughters and sons of Abraham, the Palestinian children, you think God's going to say, yeah, slaughter all my children.
Let's give America a second chance.
No, that's not what happens.
If you listen to my broadcast yesterday, God destroys America with the third trumpet, and God destroys Israel with the sixth trumpet.
Notably, He destroys America first, and He destroys New York City.
He specifically destroys New York City, and remember, the angels rejoice.
This is in the book of Revelation.
The angels rejoice as the great harlot, the city that is destroyed in one hour, New York City, You know, at the convergence of the rivers and streams, this is the third trumpet, the third comet impact on Earth.
New York City is gone in an hour.
Gone.
And the angels rejoice because America has turned so wicked.
And if we're going to elect people who are funded by Zionist money from Zionists who support genocide and the greater Israel project of massive imperialism and colonial expansion at the expense of slaughtering millions of people in all the other countries around them, Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Syria, even Turkey.
Then we can't call America like MAGA. It can't be make America great again.
It would be make America evil again.
How would you even pronounce that?
Make America evil again.
And God judges America.
God destroys America.
So there will be no revival in America that counts.
Because the church has failed.
The church has embraced, largely the Christian churches, have embraced genocide.
And so the churches have failed the most important test.
Can you simply defend life?
The same churches that say they are pro-life.
We have to stop the murder of children in abortion centers.
What about the murder of children in Gaza?
Oh, that's fine.
That's okay.
Just murder those children.
It's wrong to murder children with forceps in a clinic, but it's right to murder them with 2,000-pound bombs in an apartment building.
That's the position of MAGA and MAHA, or at least its leaders.
And I'm sorry, that does not merit God's forgiveness.
It actually merits God's wrath.
America will be destroyed.
Israel will be destroyed.
And when those two nations are completely obliterated, not only will the world rejoice, but the angels will rejoice in heaven because America and Israel have turned into absolute evil and wickedness.
There are no redeeming qualities worthy of God's forgiveness that could override the evil that these nations have become as the church also has failed.
The church has failed to stand up and protect the children from transgenderism.
The church failed to stand up for election integrity in 2020.
The church failed to stand up against the COVID tyranny all throughout the 2020s.
The church has failed The church abandoned all the teachings of Paul and of Christ and of Timothy, just threw them all away.
You think God redeems America when the church has rejected God?
No, of course he doesn't.
Not a chance.
And I know, I know a lot of churches, it's all about making everybody feel positive.
We all got to feel positive, uplifting.
Let's sing hymns together.
While we look the other way on genocide and evil and the mass murder of children, but let's sing hymns.
Let's pretend to be good little Christians.
Let's teach leadership skills.
Let's teach community.
While we ignore genocide, yeah, it's all a joke.
It's a sick joke.
It's a sick, demented, demonic joke in the eyes of the Lord.
If your church doesn't stand for what Christ teaches, don't pretend to be a church.
You're just a synagogue of Satan.
Now, I've got a special report, by the way, on this issue of positivity.
I think I'll play that first for you here, and then I'll play my podcast that may end my career.
I'm calling out MAGA and MAHA. But first, I want to play this special report on positivity because people always say, well, how can we stay positive during all of this insanity that's happening right now?
And my answer, which you'll hear in this report, is that it's not about being positive.
It's about being confident.
Which means it's about being prepared.
So we'll get to that in a second.
But first, I want to give you my analysis of what's happening with Israel's attack on Iran, or imminent attack, and what happened with the leaked documents, what's happening behind the scenes.
All right, so the following analysis is my own analysis.
No one leaked anything to me on this.
I do not have some deep embedded source in Israel.
In the White House or in the Trump campaign or anybody.
So this is all just my analysis, but here it is.
Israel and Trump have a deal under the table behind the scenes.
The deal is that Israel must attack Iran before the election in order to cause instability, chaos, and a sharp increase in gasoline prices at the pump.
Before the election in order to help ensure Trump's victory.
This plan, because there's so much shared intelligence between the United States military and the IDF, the details of this plan were known by elements at the highest levels of the U.S. military.
The Biden slash Kamala regime ordered this specific document that you've probably seen to be leaked to Which revealed Israel's plans, you know, which missiles they were gearing up, likely targets, and so on.
This was leaked intentionally by the Biden regime in order to delay Israel so that Israel possibly could not attack Iran before Election Day.
So what's actually happening here is...
The Zionists who have donated a lot of money to Trump, they're trying to get Trump elected, and they don't care how many people they have to kill in Iran in order to do that.
They just want a war.
The Biden-Harris regime, they don't want an escalation of the war at the moment, although they would gladly support it after Election Day if they win, by the way.
You know, they're still pro-Zionism, but they just don't want mass bombings and, you know, oil fields to be blown up before the election because that could hurt them in the election and they're already hurting badly enough.
So in effect, in effect, the Biden-Harris regime is leaking military intelligence to Iran, which is technically, it's an act of treason.
Yeah.
So somebody in the Biden-Harris regime is committing treason to While somebody in the Trump campaign is committing collusion to try to start a war before Election Day.
Are you getting the picture here?
Nobody's hands are clean in this.
Everybody's got blood on their hands, or at least they're trying to have blood on their hands one way or another.
There are no innocent people in this.
I'm just laying it out the way it is.
But Israel, even though its attack on Iran has been delayed...
It could still attack Iran.
However, I'm beginning to think that Israel is starting to realize how screwed they are if they attack Iran for a number of reasons.
They are coming to realize that Iran is extremely well prepared for this.
Israel realizes that they can't stop Iran's retaliation.
That's impossible.
Even the deepest bunker buster bombs can't reach into the deep mountain bases that Iran has, from which they can launch missiles and aircraft with missiles and so on.
And it's becoming apparent to everybody that Iran has nuclear warheads at this point.
Even Scott Ritter is talking about that as a very high likelihood at this point.
And a year ago, he said, no, they did not have nuclear warheads.
Well, Steve Quayle, who I just interviewed...
I think Steve's right.
And even if Israel doesn't nuke Iran, if they just attack Iran with a barrage of kinetic weapons, that when all those weapons are in the air on the way to Iran, which is a long way, by the way, you know, depending on the speed of the missiles, many, many hours of flight time, okay?
It's not close by.
Well, what is Iran going to do during that time?
They're going to launch freaking everything.
They're going to launch everything.
At Israel.
And Israel cannot stop them.
Israel's Iron Dome is a joke.
That's already been proven in October.
Israel cannot stop Iran's ballistic missiles.
Israel's infrastructure would be absolutely destroyed.
We're talking about near total destruction of water facilities, power facilities in particular.
Bridges and ports and what have you.
You know, military centers, of course.
But a whole lot more.
And then the question becomes, how does anybody live in Israel?
If it's just turned into, you know, a bunch of craters, basically, like a moonscape, you know?
What is there left to save?
And that's probably what's coming, and I see Israel as being destroyed because I don't think that Netanyahu is sane enough to back off of his escalation plans.
I think he will, at some point, I think he'll go for it.
And Iran's going to respond, and Israel's going to be obliterated, but Iran will take significant damage.
There's no question about it.
Iran's GDP will be impacted for 20 years.
Its energy output will take a heavy toll.
Its oil fields will be severely damaged.
There will be mass death of civilians in Iran.
Iran will pay a heavy price, there's no question.
And so will Lebanon and Beirut and even Yemen and so on.
But all these surrounding nations are coming to realize, even Turkey is, I think, at a tipping point realizing that Nobody in the Middle East has a future unless Israel is destroyed.
Even Egypt is coming to this realization.
So Israel is going to be destroyed unless it backs down now.
And by the way, Israel is being destroyed on the ground in Lebanon.
Hezbollah has already achieved something like 700 casualties of the IDF soldiers who are not very good soldiers on the ground, it turns out.
They run screaming like little whiny crybaby girls anytime they take incoming fire.
They're not men.
They're not soldiers, and they're definitely not superior.
They're weak compared to Hezbollah.
Are you kidding me?
They're weak compared to Hamas.
The IDF fighters aren't even really fighters.
They self-identify as soldiers by putting on the costume of a soldier, but they suck at it.
And there's even talk that Iran could provide troops for a ground invasion of Israel, and I think that's where it's actually going to end up.
I think Israel will be overrun and completely obliterated.
Israel will be wiped off the map, and When that day comes, the Lord will say, yep, that's my judgment against Israel because it turned wicked and turned against God.
God does not save Israel.
Israel is destroyed, and the angels rejoice.
So understand that if you're a Christian and you've been told that God saves Israel, the person who told you that is a satanic deceiver, and you will come to see that.
You have been misled.
And you have been manipulated into supporting a satanic death cult that's carrying out genocide in the region.
Okay?
And that satanic death cult is trying to get Trump elected by starting a war.
Think about that.
Think about that.
I mean, the consequences that are coming for America are absolutely cosmic, epic, devastating.
And that's why I refuse to be a part of this.
I cannot participate.
I cannot be complicit in supporting any of this nonsense.
So I'm just going to stick with the principles of being pro-human, supporting the universal right to life of all children, unborn and born and Palestinian.
And when the day comes that I face God and His judgment, I will know that That regardless of the cost to my career or to my popularity or to my influence, whatever, hardly matters.
Regardless of that, I stuck to my principles and I stayed true to what God demands of us, which is to protect life.
So that's my take.
That's my take.
It really is.
It comes down to that.
Simple, powerful, powerful.
Not popular.
Doing the right thing is often very unpopular, by the way.
You will not be given awards, you know, I'm not going to get the White House Medal of Freedom, anything like that.
I'll be blasted by everybody for standing on morals and principles.
If you stand on principles, you will be considered an enemy of the state because the state is a terror state rooted in mass terrorism and death and genocide.
Understand?
But the judgment from God is what counts more than any judgment from any government or any man.
I don't need Trump's approval.
I need God's approval.
So I'm going to be obedient to God, not to Trump.
Very simple.
And I'm just shocked at people like General Flynn who was tweeting out something like, Israel's trying very hard to be friends with his neighbors.
What reality are you living in, General Flynn?
It's so bizarre, man.
Really?
How are you trying hard to be friends with neighbors?
Dropping bombs on them all.
Yeah, destroying their infrastructure, committing famine and genocide, blowing up their hospitals and universities.
Yeah, that's very friendly.
What a way to win friends and influence people.
Somebody should write a book on that.
It's just amazing.
The level of delusion.
It's equivalent to the left-wing delusions.
You know, the left believes that men can have babies and that a seven-year-old boy can choose to become a girl.
And with enough mutilations and gender-bender chemicals, you can turn a boy into a girl.
Well, hey, a whole lot of Trump supporters think that Israel are the good guys.
That you can bomb your way to peace.
Yeah, that's what they think.
I'm sure John Bolton would agree with that.
You can just bomb your way to peace, you know?
The more bombs you drop, the more peace you get, right?
Isn't that true?
People are insane.
You can't bomb your way to peace.
You can't murder children to achieve righteousness.
You don't become a great again country by committing the Holocaust again.
You know, maybe MAHA should be make the American Holocaust again.
You know, I mean, not that America carried out the Holocaust in the first place, but I'm just playing with the words here, playing with the acronym.
If you support Israel, Israel's carrying out a Holocaust in the Middle East, you can't claim to be great again.
You can't claim to be free.
You can't claim to have morals.
You can't claim to be constitutional.
The Constitution is based on morality.
Equal protection clause.
You know, if you murder children in the Middle East and then back home you say, well, all human beings are created equal, then you're a hypocrite.
If you believe in the 14th Amendment or the 16th Amendment, you know, slavery is wrong.
But Israel has enslaved the Palestinian people in Gaza.
But we say slavery is wrong.
We say apartheid is wrong.
We say the Holocaust is wrong.
And then America and the conservatives support it all in the Middle East.
They support all that.
Israel is apartheid.
Israel is enslavement.
Israel is, you know, Zionism is racism.
Ethnic supremacy.
One group of people rules over another group.
They don't have equal protection.
They don't have equal rights.
They don't have equal dignity.
Nothing of the kind, and the U.S. sends bombs and money to murder people in hospitals, for God's sake.
So don't pretend that America can be great again if America is complicit in genocide.
I don't want to hear anybody pretending that bullshit.
Don't pretend that American churches can have a revival.
Don't pretend that God is on your side if you're complicit in the murder of God's children, okay?
Stop with the fakery.
Stop with the lies.
I'm done with you.
I'm done with your lies.
I'm done with your bullshit.
You're going to be judged by God.
That's between you and God, but I know what's coming, and I feel sorry for your soul.
America's going to be judged by God.
America is going to be destroyed.
Israel is going to be judged by God.
Israel will be destroyed.
And when it happens, the angels will rejoice.
And the world will applaud.
And there will be monuments constructed of the Zionist Holocaust in the Middle East.
And the whole world will remember who was complicit in crimes against humanity and who supported Israel's genocide.
Every name We'll be remembered, we'll be recorded on the wall of shame of the Museum of the Holocaust of Gaza.
Think about that.
That day is coming.
All right, so let's get to the special reports today.
The first one is about being confident, not just positive.
And the second one is the podcast that may end my career.
And in that podcast, I'm calling out the people of the MAGA and the Maha movement for refusing to denounce Israel's genocide.
And then following that, we'll have the interview today with Joel Salatin of Polyface Farms.
That's a complete break from, you know, politics and war.
We'll talk about growing food, thank goodness.
And then, well, should I include a sermon today?
That might make it a little long.
I might skip today's sermon and just do two, like, on the weekend.
I think I may do that.
Yeah, I'll probably do that just because it's getting kind of long.
So, and I've also, I mean, my special report is almost a sermon anyway.
So we'll do two sermons on a weekend day to make up for it.
I'm still on track for the 100 sermons.
But I don't think I'll run one today.
Anyway, enjoy the special reports coming up.
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A person asked me recently, how do I stay positive during these crazy times, maybe end times?
You know, times of war, times of famine, times of intense evil in the world.
How do I stay positive?
And my honest answer was, Is that really the goal?
Is it just to be positive?
It's kind of like asking, you know, how do I stay happy when everything is going into war and disaster?
And I don't think that just sort of naked happiness should be the goal.
Now, I agree that you don't want to be buried by fear or panic, that's for sure.
But instead of saying the word positive, I'm going to suggest that we replace it with the word confident.
How do I remain confident in the face of what's happening today?
Not just like positive, like, yeah, everything's great.
No, how about that I have the confidence of being able to get through this, which I think is more important than being positive.
And being confident requires you to be informed and to be realistic about what we're facing.
So when I think about people who just want to be positive, I think about people who lock themselves in a room, With, you know, music and candles and balloons and stuffed animals like I'm still positive and just throwing teddy bears around is like so great and there's pudding, you know, birthday cakes and whatever.
Okay, great.
That doesn't help you in the real world.
But when I think about people who are confident, There are people who, you know, might not have a giant smile on their face, but they have a lot of wisdom in their eyes.
There are people who know what's going on.
They've got a plan.
They've got a solid plan.
They've got the knowledge, the skills, whatever equipment is necessary.
You know, they've got a backup plan for everything.
So they are confident to be able to face the world and face what's coming.
And that's my goal for you is to help you achieve confidence so that you are ready for everything.
Now, whether that translates into just joy and happiness and positivity, well, I don't know.
That's up to each person's individual emotional processing methods.
But I do want you to be confident.
Now, being confident in facing an unknown future, especially one where perhaps war is eminent, requires several key elements, the first of which is awareness or knowledge.
So I call this driving with the headlights on.
You don't want to be driving down the highway at night, especially on a curvy, you know, mountainous highway with your headlights off.
You're liable to, you know, run off the road, go over the cliff, whatever.
Your headlights need to be on.
And that means you need to be aware.
And this is where some people have a problem.
They're like, I don't want to hear anything negative.
They just want to keep it all positive.
Okay, well, turn your headlights off then when you drive because, you know, a deer in the road might be a negative event.
I mean, I say that satirically.
Obviously, don't drive with your headlights off.
But that's the way some people want to live their lives day to day.
They want to drive with their headlights off.
Well, how do you know there's not a boulder in the road or another vehicle or a stalled vehicle or a pedestrian or a cow, you know?
So just saying, well, I don't want to hear anything negative doesn't work.
You need to be aware of what's going on, especially if it's a potentially negative event like, hey, you know, Israel's about to attack Iran.
They might use nuclear weapons, things like that.
Russia and Iran have some kind of a mutual defense agreement.
Russia has more nuclear weapons than any other country in the world, right?
So let's bring in some relevant facts.
Iran has very advanced ballistic missiles, probably nuclear warheads.
They threatened to retaliate against Israel.
So now we're talking about a nuclear exchange.
Yeah, these are rational knowledge facts, little knowledge nuggets to be aware of.
So instead of turning away, we welcome information, but we don't let that information drive our emotional state.
So it needs to be okay to be able to hear that there might be a nuclear war without being consumed by fear.
So part of this is having the neurological resilience and maturity to not be driven into crazy states by information.
So let's think about information as just information.
Here's a bunch of facts.
Here are some quotes.
Here are some possibilities.
Let's just gather that and become aware of it.
Okay, that's step one.
Second step is to then analyze and rehearse.
Well, I guess those are two different steps, but analyze is let's look for patterns in this information.
Let's consider possibilities.
Let's see what might be likely to occur.
Are there some possibilities that we can eliminate that we know for certain or with high certainty will not happen?
So we can scratch those off our list of concerns.
Maybe so.
Are there things that we think have a high probability of actually happening?
If so, let's become aware of those.
Let's put those high on our list.
So let's analyze the information in terms of probabilities and how it impacts us.
For example, if there's a nuclear detonation in Iran and then maybe a retaliation nuclear detonation in Israel, How will that affect you?
Well, if you don't live in either of those two countries, you're not going to be hit directly by the nuclear weapon, but you will suffer the economic consequences affecting energy markets, for example.
Or you could suffer the results of radiation fallout across the Northern Hemisphere.
Or the war might escalate and it might bring in Russia, it might bring in China, it might bring in the United States.
Could there be a state of war declared in the United States, etc., right?
So think about ramifications.
What does this mean?
Could this be used to try to stop the election?
Could it be used to try to declare martial law?
Could it be used to take away liberties and freedoms of the American people?
All things that are worth considering.
Once you've got that analysis completed, which it doesn't have to be on paper, you don't have to produce a report, it could just be in your head that you look at it, you contemplate it, maybe you take a walk, maybe you think about it, maybe you have a conversation with people that you trust.
And then you come up with a conclusion that you think this represents.
And you take that to heart.
That can be your analysis phase.
Then comes rehearsal.
So one of the ways that people deal with very difficult things in the world is that they mentally rehearse them beforehand.
So if you've actually gone through a mental rehearsal of having to go through a bug-out scenario, Or having a nuclear bomb detonated nearby and having to evacuate.
Or going to war.
Or having to cook all your food on an outdoor stove, etc.
Or having to defend your property using an AR-15, let's say, against looters or foreign invaders or whatever the case may be.
If you have mentally rehearsed that possibility, then it won't be nearly as shocking to your system because you've gone through it in your head, and that begins to imprint those possibilities on your neurology in advance.
So have you thought through what it's going to be like growing your own food, for example, or living without electricity, or not having running water because the water system doesn't work, not having cash, engaging in barter, You know, all these kinds of things.
Having a supply chain breakdown.
Have you gone through this rehearsal in your mind?
Because you know what?
That costs you nothing.
It's free of charge.
And your mind is a great simulator, it turns out, because that's what dreams are.
So every night that you sleep, your brain creates simulations and problem solving.
You do it automatically.
Well, you can also do it on purpose.
So that's called a mental rehearsal.
So go through that for the scenarios that you think you might face.
Rehearse it mentally.
You'll also find that as you do that, you will encounter possible mistakes or gaps.
Maybe you'll go through a rehearsal and figure out your plan is missing something.
Like maybe you're missing a way to start fires, to boil water, or something like that.
Or maybe you're missing batteries for your red dot sight on your rifle.
Whatever the case may be, you'll find some of that through mental rehearsal.
And then the next step is physical rehearsal based on the mental rehearsal.
So in this stage, you're going to practice the skills and the procedures that you've identified as being important.
This gives you confidence.
And remember, I said it's more important to have confidence than just positivity.
I'm positive that having confidence is very useful and it creates a sense of calm, a sense of knowing.
To say, hey, you know, if the electricity goes out, I'm confident I can live without electricity.
Well, why are you confident?
Because you've done it.
You've rehearsed it.
You've practiced it.
Turn off the lights for a weekend.
I mean, turn off the power grid to your home.
You know, do this in a safe way, obviously.
And try living a weekend without electricity.
Don't do it if you have fish in an aquarium because they will die without oxygen.
But you get my point.
You can turn off the power or you can just live outside in your backyard for a weekend and see how it goes.
See what you're missing.
Or go camping.
It's a start.
Or just try to wash your clothes without using a washing machine.
Try to wash and dry your clothes.
There are many things that you can do here, things that are very valuable, and as you gain those skills, like starting a fire to boil water, preserving food, or preparing food, or firing your AR-15, Just going through drills of deploying your 9mm handgun, if that's what you have, or your AR, or whatever the case may be.
It's important to practice the physical skills.
So at this point, you've got analysis and information.
You've got some conclusions about What might happen, various risks of what might occur.
You've gone through mental rehearsal, and you've gone through physical rehearsal, which will require you to acquire the gear or the physical items that are necessary for you to go through that rehearsal.
So in this process, you will, of course, gather the things that are missing, like, oh, I need more paracord.
Yeah, what about the paracord?
Oh, I need more magnesium fire starters.
Oh, I need more ammo.
I need batteries.
I need this and that.
I need a bug out bag, I need a better flashlight, I need a solar charger, I need a solar generator, I need a satellite phone, whatever.
You're going to identify a bunch of gear and then you're going to acquire that gear.
Now at this point, which frankly this shouldn't take a great deal of time, you could cover a lot of skills in three days.
Not everything, obviously, but a lot.
First aid skills, you know, tourniquets, firearms handling, food preservation.
You could cover a lot in three days, believe it or not, if you dedicate yourself to it.
But doing this, then, you will be able to face what's coming with a much greater sense of confidence While your neighbor who was just focused on being positive just sat in a room for three days and meditated with candles and teddy bears and has a big smile on their face, but they're clueless when it comes to knowing what to do when difficult times come.
So I would much rather be confident than positive.
So then this process just goes in layers or cycles.
So let's say that you spent a weekend going through this process to learn how to do these things.
And that went well.
Now you know what to do.
And nothing bad happens.
World War III doesn't begin.
You know, we get a reprieve, maybe from God.
Maybe the lunatics in charge of our countries don't press the trigger button on launching nukes.
Who knows?
Maybe we just get lucky.
So a few weekends later, you got another free weekend.
So what do you do?
You do the same drill, but now you add more skills, more layers, more rehearsals.
So now, I don't know, you're using sutures to stitch up a simulated skin cut on a piece of chicken that you bought at the grocery store.
You can practice on a piece of chicken, you know, fresh chicken meat.
Or maybe you're going camping for the first time in a long time.
Maybe you're learning about emergency medicine, iodine, or something that you did not cover before.
There are all kinds of things that you can do.
Maybe you're upping your firearm skills.
You're practicing offhand shooting, for example.
There are all kinds of things that you can do to add another layer to your preparedness.
There's always more skills you can have.
Maybe you acquire a really high-end knife and you learn about knife skills and how to sharpen knives properly.
That's always useful, you know, knowing how to use a blade, right?
One of those weekends, you should learn more about comms.
Get yourself a little $25 Baofeng radio.
Learn how to do basic programming on that.
Learn how to use AB comms channels and set up the channels and change the channels.
Those kinds of just simple things, just using local radios.
That can save your life under the right circumstances.
Anyway, you get the idea.
So over time, your skill set expands, and so your confidence expands.
And as the future arrives, and you find out that it's crazier and crazier, because, you know, the people running our countries are absolute satanic lunatics, You will begin to find that you're hard to kill.
That, yes, they can kill a lot of people in a lot of different ways.
They can kill even billions of people on this planet, and they plan to.
And they will.
They will probably kill billions of people.
But they're going to have a hard time killing you because you are hard to kill.
Being hard to kill is a very good trait, especially given that Most of the other people around us are kind of pretty easy for the warmongers to kill.
And who's the easiest for the globalists to kill?
The people that focused on staying positive instead of learning to be confident.
That's who's easiest to kill.
The globalists can kill off people who don't know anything, who are afraid of everything, who don't have any skills, don't have any preparedness equipment, who are not growing their own food, who don't know how to grow antibiotics, who don't have backup money systems like gold and silver.
Those people are easy for the globalists to kill.
You can stay positive all the way to the day that they kill you, and then it turns kind of really negative very quickly.
Or you can focus on being confident and being hard to kill.
And then, in the end, you can smile.
You can be positive.
Like, I'm positive.
They didn't kill me, even though, you know, two billion people are dead on this planet.
They didn't kill me.
Because we were hard to kill.
Now, one more important thought in all of this.
Being hard to kill does not necessarily make you the most popular person in your family, in a group of friends, I don't know, in your neighborhood, in your company, whatever.
Wherever you interact with people, being hard to kill and being informed and being confident doesn't necessarily make you the most joyful person to be around.
You probably know a lot of things that a lot of other people don't know and some of those things are not nice things about what's happening in the world.
Well, as I say, you know, ignorance is bliss.
So for those people who want to be happy, they want to stay ignorant.
It's like, don't tell me about anything.
I just want to stay ignorant.
Okay, fine.
But for those who want to be hard to kill, you're going to know some things.
Those are not going to be happy things.
You're going to know about the depopulation agenda, about the bioweapons and the vaccines and the jabs, about the satanic takeover of the world, and how the Satanists who run entire nations, especially Western nations like the USA and Israel and Canada, you know, the UK, etc.
They're all Satanists.
How they just want to slaughter human beings and choke off human populations and cause infertility and mass death and extinction and so on.
These are not happy thoughts.
But they're real.
And you'll find that the more you know, the more difficult it may be to be around sort of everyday regular people who just want to stay positive all the time.
Everything's great.
So be prepared for that psychologically.
You're not going to win, you know, happiness awards by being informed.
But you will win the game of survival while those who are focused on being positive will win the Darwin Award for dying stupidly for not being prepared.
For example, we found this out after the hurricanes hit recently Florida and the Carolinas.
We found out that there's a lot of people that don't have water filters.
They don't have a water filter, not even one.
I went on Amazon just to check.
You can buy a water filter, a small one, that doesn't do a lot, but it'll handle some amount of water for like $30, okay?
A little handheld pump, or like $40 for the slightly better one.
And yeah, it might only do 150 gallons of water, but that's something.
And if you invest more like a hundred bucks, you could get a filter that does a lot more.
But people don't have water filters, which I find extraordinary.
People don't have stored food.
People don't have self-defense weapons.
And this tells me that they are not, of course, rehearsing for what's coming.
So they're not just trying to be positive.
They're just ignorant.
They're just not even informed, not aware.
They might be really popular in social circles because it's easy to be joyful and carefree because ignorance is bliss.
But when hard times come, they're not ready at all.
And what do we find in North Carolina?
And I'm not blaming the victims here, by the way.
Some people were just outright, their homes were just washed away while they were sleeping.
It's not their fault.
Some people who were prepared...
Got their homes washed away and all their stuff was washed away.
So don't get me wrong, I'm not blaming the victims.
But I am saying that many people there who suffered far more than they had to, well, they suffered because they were not prepared, because they had never imagined Being cut off from water sources and electricity and cell towers and food and grocery stores and gasoline stations.
They had never imagined those scenarios.
And so, of course, they were not ready when that happened.
So ask yourself, are you?
Are you ready to live without electricity?
Are you ready to live without a municipal water supply that functions?
Are you ready to live without gas stations functioning?
Are you ready to live without cell towers, etc.?
All those things.
You ready to live without a food supply?
Are you ready to live indoors if you have to because of nuclear radiation fallout?
These are serious questions of our time.
And I've got a lot of free guides for you, of course.
You may have heard of some of these.
I've got free downloadable audiobooks that can help you.
I think the best one right now is resilientprepping.com.
Go to Resilient Prepping.
You can find it there.
You can download it.
Or go to survivalnutrition.com.
I also have the Global Reset Survival Guide that's at globalreset.news, by the way.
Or you can find all these at the top of naturalnews.com, the very top link.
It says audiobooks.
Click there.
It shows you all the audiobooks that you can download.
And they're all free.
But resilientprepping.com is probably the best one.
Helps you get squared away and helps you run through mentally all these rehearsals that we're talking about here so that you aren't surprised by what comes.
And the bottom line here, instead of focusing on being positive, focus on being confident, being ready.
And that's something that you have control over.
You may not have control over nuclear terrorism or nuclear war.
We don't have that control.
But you can control your readiness for it.
You can control your mental skills.
You can control your bug out bag.
You can control a lot of things that can prepare you for when these events occur.
So instead of focusing on the things you cannot control and just shutting them out and locking yourself in a room, let's be positive.
What you should do instead is go through the mental rehearsals, get informed, stay informed.
I try to keep you informed on my podcast here in every way possible and on my social media accounts as well.
Go through the mental rehearsals, get the equipment and the skills that you need to be prepared and then Live your life with confidence that you can handle what comes your way because you're resilient at that point.
You're more decentralized, you're more informed, you've got skills, and you're psychologically ready for whatever's going to come.
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So I have a ton of reservations right now about what's happening with the Maha movement, Make America Healthy Again, with Donald Trump, who I believe will be president again, RFK Jr., and all the supporting people who are working hard, including people who worked on RFK Jr.'s campaign.
And I decided to just come on out publicly and But also politely, this is not any kind of a rant.
I think this needs to be stated publicly because I think I'm not the only one thinking this.
So let me just say it out loud, the concerns that I have and also possibly how this can all be resolved and how we can all work together to truly make America more free again, you know, make America great again and make America healthy again and help guide President Trump Which I do believe RFK Jr.
would help with quite well.
But let me just air two concerns right now.
Big concerns.
The number one concern that I have in these people is that they lack the moral clarity to be able to denounce what Israel is doing to children.
This moral clarity is not a sideshow of this movement.
And I've interviewed former Congressman Dennis Kucinich, who is running for Congress.
He has the moral clarity that we need.
He is anti-war, you could say, but that's actually an oversimplification.
Dennis Kucinich, you could say he wants to make America great again.
He wants to serve America first and is not going to make excuses for sending money and weapons to a regime.
That is, let's be honest, actively involved in genocide in the Middle East.
And the silence on that issue from people like Donald Trump, RFK Jr., and the various people who worked with RFK Jr.'s campaign, I may mention some names here and so on, the silence is highly disturbing.
And the reason I say that is because I don't think that we can make some kind of twisted spiritual bargain where we say that, okay, we're going to take money from these very wealthy Jewish donors in order to get Trump into office and in order to get RFK Jr.
into a position of power and influence, perhaps with HHS or making staff decisions and so on.
And in exchange for that, that we have to be silent and And sort of endorse or be complicit in Israel's open genocide actions.
I think that if the Maha movement makes that kind of bargain, then I think the Maha movement loses its soul.
Because liberty without morality is not liberty.
It's only the illusion of liberty.
And health without morality is only the illusion of health.
I understand that wealthy Jewish donors, specifically the Adelson widow, have a tremendous amount of money, billions of dollars.
I understand that a lot of money has gone to Donald Trump, I believe $100 million.
I absolutely understand that deals were made, that Trump, behind the scenes, you know, in his first term, he moved the embassy to Jerusalem.
That was one of the deals.
I think that one of his deals now is that he is supposed to push through the United States Congress a law that would criminalize criticism of Jews or criticism of Zionism, a law that would outlaw certain portions of the Bible.
For example, John chapter 19, that very clearly states that the Jews demanded the crucifixion of Christ, that it was the ancient Jewish religious leaders that were responsible for the murder of Christ.
That is simply an historical fact.
But many wealthy Jewish donors, they do not want the American people to know that truth.
They do not want Christians to know that truth.
And in fact, what's so shocking about that is that if you read the Bible in Acts chapter 4, it shows that the ancient Jewish leaders there censored the name Jesus in that day and censored any mention it shows that the ancient Jewish leaders there censored the name Jesus in that day and censored any mention of the miracles that were performed by Peter and John in the
These miracles healed a crippled man who had been crippled from birth.
He was instantly healed by the power of Jesus.
This miracle was widely acknowledged even by the Jewish leaders.
But because the Jewish leaders did not want Christ to take away from them their power over religion, they demanded the censorship of the name Jesus and the censorship of any reporting of this miracle that took place that they demanded the censorship of the name Jesus and the censorship of any reporting of this miracle that So censorship of Jesus happened nearly 2,000 years ago.
Censorship of Jesus and censorship of the Bible is something that Trump is being asked to carry out, and there's a law in Congress right now That is being pushed to essentially criminalize any kind of denial of Jewish involvement in the crucifixion of Christ.
It would outlaw Bible verses on college campuses across America.
That is the bargain or part of the bargain that is being made behind the scenes with Donald Trump With RFK Jr., who is his organization, Children's Health Defense, which has done tremendously good work, I want to be clear, but they've received a lot of money from wealthy Jewish donors, and those Jewish donors pull the strings, and they tell CHD what to do, and they tell RFK Jr.
what to do.
There's no getting around it, okay?
There's just no getting around it.
And I understand that there's a lot of critical moving parts right now for America to be, to even have a chance at existing.
We have to defeat Kamala and the Democrats.
Their agenda is all pro-Big Pharma, massive censorship.
You know, their agenda is horrific for America.
Their agenda is authoritarianism and outright tyranny.
Absolutely.
I completely agree with that.
They need to be defeated and removed from power.
But at what cost do we, what bargain do we make to accept money and influence into the Maha movement in order to achieve political victory?
What do we have to give up in our souls Do we have to bow down, which I am unwilling to do by the way, but does the movement have to bow down to effectively Zionism and the demands of money from Zionism in order to have the means for Donald Trump to be elected and in order to have the means for RFK Jr.
to be put in a position of great influence where he can do a lot of good for America?
I wish he were head of HHS and I wish he would...
You know, radically reform FDA, NIH, CDC, NIAID, etc., etc.
I think Fauci needs to go to prison.
I think Fauci needs to be criminally prosecuted.
So a lot of good could come from that.
But I ask you, morally and ethically, is it right to support a movement that doesn't put America first, that actually puts a genocidal terror state of Israel first?
And that's what Israel has become.
It has become a terror state.
Let there be no illusions about what Israel is today.
And I'm not saying that about all the Israeli people.
I'm not saying that about all Jewish people.
Many Jews absolutely disagree with what Israel is doing.
But let us be clear, and I have called out Trump, I've called out RFK Jr., let us be clear that the deliberate bombing of women and children The deliberate routine shooting in the head of children,
the bombing of hospital patients who are in staging tents in the parking lots of hospitals with IVs in their arms, burned alive by bombs dropped by the IDF, bombs provided by the United States of America, funded by taxpayer money,
The bombing of refugee camps, the bombing of churches and mosques, the bombing of universities in Gaza, the bombing and the deliberate mass starvation of food supply infrastructure being destroyed, so deliberate famine against the people of northern Gaza right now who are being starved to death, the bombing of Christian churches in Lebanon.
These are the things that Israel is carrying out.
And if you can be bought off to not denounce that evil, then you have engaged in a moral failure.
You have made a bargain that is a deal with the devil.
You are dealing with evil.
You are compromising with evil.
And when you compromise with evil, it is a slippery slope.
And down that slippery slope, hell awaits you If you say, well, we need that $100 million and so we're just not going to talk about how they're bombing all these children and women and shooting doctors in the head at these hospitals, how IDF soldiers use children for target practice or assassinate doctors by shooting them in the head.
We'll just look the other way on that because we need our people to get into office and so we need that money.
And that's the bargain we're going to make.
Well, I say I am unwilling to make that bargain.
I'm unwilling to do it.
I am with Dennis Kucinich on this issue.
I am with the peacemakers on this issue.
I am with people like Sayer G on this issue.
I will not make that bargain.
I cannot make that bargain because I believe that our decisions count and that we are judged by our morality, by our ethics, and that how can we say make America healthy again if it's at the expense of murdered children in Gaza?
What is that?
You should, instead of make America healthy again, It should be called Make Zionism All-Powerful Again or something like that because that's what it really is.
It's the Zionists first and America last.
And it is appeasing every action of the Zionists who write the checks, who have the money.
And I am not willing to do that.
I am not willing to make that compromise.
And when I see people...
In this movement, Make America Healthy Again movement, I see, like, Callie and Casey Means, who, on one hand, are doing a lot of outstanding things, drawing attention to vaccines, drawing attention to seed oils.
I get it.
But then, you know, I see activists that are marching on Kellogg's over, you know, red dye in their cereal.
Like, you know, the food babe is out there.
Like, Kellogg's, we're coming for you.
We're going to destroy you.
We're going to, you know, we're going to overrun you.
You will be destroyed, you know?
And I'm thinking, over red dye?
Red dye?
That's the issue?
Children are bleeding out red blood and dying in Gaza.
If we are to march on any corporations in America right now, I mean, number one, vaccine companies do a lot more damage than, you know, cereal companies.
And secondly, the children in Gaza would be thrilled to have a bowl of Kellogg's cereal right now.
Even if it's GMO, you know, even if it's filled with pesticides and herbicides, even if it's not the healthiest thing, even if it's refined sugars and whatever, those children are starving right now.
We've got to get our priorities straight here.
The real threat to children health-wise is vaccines, vaccines, vaccines.
Thankfully, a lot of people in the movement are willing to speak out against vaccines, some of them, not all of them, but Children are also being blown to pieces in the Middle East.
And I've championed his book and his work, and he has done great things for America.
But I said, how can you call your organization Children's Health Defense and say that we should protect children from mercury, but you're silent on protecting children from bombs?
What could be more important to a child's health than not being bombed to death and blown to bits by bombs dropped by Zionists, bombs given to them by weapons manufacturers in America like Boeing?
How can you not speak out against those children being blown two bits?
That's happening in our world right now.
And the ability of some people to look the other way out of political necessity or fundraising necessity or whatever it is, I suppose that's a decision between them and God, but I am not willing to make that compromise.
So this is the problem that I see right now with the Maha movement in America.
When I see even that many supporters of RFK Jr.
and supporters of Donald Trump will not call out this obvious genocide, this obvious ongoing slaughter of women and children, especially slaughter of doctors, slaughter of food aid workers who are deliberately hit with missiles by the IDF, And I think about a lot of people who have otherwise done, you know, many positive things, but I hear nothing but silence from them on this issue.
I think about people like Del Bigtree, whose organization has done a tremendous amount of positive work.
He has brought a lot of publicity to the dangers of vaccines and food issues and so much more.
And I'm thinking, Del, where is your voice on these children in the Middle East that are being blown to bits?
Where is your voice?
And, you know, I think it's the ties to RFK Jr.
And I think about Charlie Kirk, Turning Point.
Where's your voice?
Why are you defending Israel all the time?
Why are you lying and covering up what happened to the USS Liberty when Israel attacked the ship and killed U.S. sailors and tried to sink the ship?
Why are you lying and covering for Israel?
And, you know, I would mention Ben Shapiro, but everybody knows that Ben Shapiro is just, you know, a projection of Mossad, so that hardly needs any explanation.
But so many people that support Trump and support RFK Jr., who are, again, otherwise very positive people, who have done a lot of good work in America, we have to question, where is your loyalty when it counts?
Where is your humanity when it counts?
If you can't speak out against the greatest crime against humanity being committed on our planet right now, which is a crime being committed by Israel, then how can we trust you to speak out against future crimes committed against other children, even possibly American children?
If you put Israel first, what happens when Israel says that they think that Hamas has tunnels under a hospital in New York City, and therefore they want to bomb hospitals in New York City?
Are you going to stay silent on that?
RFK Jr., Donald Trump, is it okay if the Zionists want to bomb hospitals in New York City?
Because they release, you know, 3D imaging and they say, look, we have all this graphics that says there's secret tunnels under these hospitals filled with Hezbollah gold in one case, you know, in Lebanon.
And therefore, we want to bomb the hospital.
Well, it's nonsense.
If Israel said that there were Hamas terrorists on college campuses in the United States of America, would Donald Trump support the mass arrest and the deportation, even the incarceration of those students who are on student visas, simply if they held up a Palestinian flag?
And the answer is yes, because he already said he would do that.
He already said he would do that.
So here's a very clear example where Trump is willing to trample on the First Amendment of the United States of America, freedom of speech, in order to appease the Zionist donors.
That's just one example of many.
He would likely support the criminalization of any speech by any American who, for example, Uttered the truth that the Jews killed Jesus, as mentioned in John chapter 19.
It's in the Bible.
It's actually in multiple places in the Bible.
It's covered, you know, Peter talked about it in Acts as well.
Everybody who studied the Bible knows that the Jews killed Christ.
Rome didn't have a problem with Jesus.
Pilate even said so.
We don't have a problem with you.
You, Jesus, oh, you say you're the king of everything?
Yeah, they just thought he was a crazy guy talking.
They didn't care.
It was the Jews that cared.
They demanded he be killed.
Crucify him!
Crucify him!
They shouted, demanding that he be crucified.
Trump would make it a crime to cite Bible scripture in America, and he would do that to appease his donors, who are Zionists.
And the question is, what else would he do?
What else would RFK Jr.
do?
If these men who are in their own way great men who have achieved great things, but if when it counts, if they cannot stand on morality, then how can we trust that they will stand for America?
How can we trust that they will stand for the Constitution?
How can we trust that they will stand for freedom of speech?
Especially when that speech is something that their donors do not like.
You know, years ago, I was called by RFK Jr., called me, and he said there was a story on Natural News that one of his donors did not like, and it was a story that said something about Jewish history.
I forgot the details, actually.
And to his credit, RFK Jr.
was very polite, very nice.
He was not in any way demanding anything.
He was simply bringing it to my attention.
You know, he's a very cordial person.
I respect him.
And he said, you know, we have a donor who believes that this story on your website is Doesn't accurately present this and that.
Again, I forgot all the details.
And would you alter that story?
Would you change that story?
And that kind of, you know, pressure, it can be significant.
And at first, I told RFK Jr., No, I'm not going to change the story, but I would look at it.
And I did look at it, and after a day or whatever it was, I said to him that, you know, out of consideration for you bringing this to my attention and your request and your work and so on, I will alter the story.
And I altered it, and I put, you know, updated on the story, etc.
But that happened.
And it's because of a story that talked about people of Jewish faith.
And I believe that in a position of greater power, Trump in the White House, RFK Jr.
as head of HHS, the people that support RFK Jr.
in positions of chief of staff, you know, top staffers in Washington, D.C., if their loyalties are with Zionism, Zionism first and America second, then I think we are going to get all kinds of pressure that's going to lead to the slippery slope of coercion.
It's going to lead to all kinds of things behind the scenes like, oh, you're not going to be invited to these events.
You're not going to be able to speak.
Actually, I'm already experiencing that right now because I'm speaking out.
You're not going to be included.
You're not going to be...
You know, given an award, this and that.
Why?
Because you don't toe the line.
Because you are calling out Israel, and you are saying that Israel is committing genocide.
So you will not be part of the club.
Well, I don't want to be part of a club filled with child-murdering Zionists, okay?
That's my point.
My morality...
My soul is intact, and I will not compromise my principles just to have more funding, to have more money, to have a position of power, to have a position of influence, to get an award, to be invited to speak, to be included in this and that, to be invited to this party and that buffet and this dinner with this private group.
And all that happens behind the scenes.
And those things are only offered to people who toe the line, people who silence any criticism of Israel.
So that's where we are in reality right now with this movement.
And, you know, at the end of the day, I'm not the one that's going to end up judging everybody in this movement, any of you who are listening.
I'm not condemning you.
God's going to judge each and every one of us, and every person is free to believe whatever they want.
I'm just saying that we have a major problem in the Maha movement, and that problem is Zionist money and Zionist demands to silence certain things that certain donors don't want stated.
And when those demands include remaining silent about a genocide taking place in our world today, right now, Something that can legitimately be called a modern-day Holocaust against children.
Because we're talking about, quite literally, hundreds of thousands of women and children have either already been killed or are in the process of being starved to death and being killed by the destruction of infrastructure, the destruction of hospitals, water systems, food systems.
This is all being done deliberately by Israel.
If we stay silent on this issue, that is the defining failure of our lives.
This is not an issue.
And yet, if we speak out, then we will always be marked as someone who would not go along with the crowd, the crowd in power, the crowd with the money, the crowd with the influence, the in-crowd.
That has been subsumed by this agenda to bury the crimes of Israel just as Israel is burying children in mass graves in Gaza.
The death marches are reminiscent of the Holocaust of World War II. The photos of the children on the street are reminiscent of the photos of Vietnam and Agent Orange.
And it is astonishing to me that we can have men of such great character on so many issues, men like Donald Trump, men like RFK Jr.
And I'm not even going to include J.D. Vance on this, but he's all in as well.
But men of such power and character in so many ways...
And thinking about RFK Jr.
and how much he has fought against Monsanto and how much he has exposed the toxic chemicals, the pollutants that have affected children, how much he has exposed the pesticides, the herbicides, the mercury, even the mercury and coal-fired power plant emissions,
how much work that he has done To help save children and shield children from toxins and yet can be silent on children that are being slaughtered by the tens of thousands in the Middle East.
It is a defining moral failure.
And I dare say, I can see where this is going.
Israel is on a path of destruction.
Netanyahu Is practically a suicide bomber for the nation of Israel.
He has put it on a path of a terror state that will almost certainly be destroyed if it is not pulled back from the brink.
What Israel is doing to the world today and what the United States is doing on behalf of Israel, providing weapons and providing money, this will never be forgotten by the rest of the world, just as the Holocaust of World War II has never been forgotten or the Stalinist Holodomor of Ukraine in the early 1930s mass-forced famine,
the death of millions of Ukrainians in that time, and many other Holocaust-level events that took place around the world Each person who participated in that time in those activities will never be forgotten.
It is the defining moment of their lives.
To this day, there are still Nazi hunters that roam the world, in essence, looking for surviving Nazis who took part in that Holocaust.
Do you think that the people of Israel today, the Gavirs, the Galants, the Netanyahu's, and others, do you think that they will escape scrutiny?
Do you think they can bury their crimes against humanity and that it will all just be forgotten and bulldozed over?
The answer is no.
And those who were complicit in covering for Israel, those who failed to speak out the obvious glaring truth that children are being bombed and slaughtered in broad daylight, In videos that you can see every day on X, on websites and reporting, there is nothing hidden about this.
The destruction is right in your face.
Representative Thomas Massey even tweets about the bombing of civilian apartment buildings, concrete structures coming down on top of women and children.
No one can say they did not know.
No one can argue that they were not aware that this modern-day genocide was taking place.
Their only argument is that they compromised.
They covered for Israel in exchange for something.
They made a bargain for power, for money, for influence, whatever it was, and they did not stand for children when it mattered.
Are those the people that we want?
Claiming to run the Make America Healthy Again movement?
Claiming to protect the health of the American children?
If their loyalties are not with all children, if their loyalties are with political movements, then they disqualify themselves.
Do the children of Palestine not count as human beings?
Worth saving?
I mean, I know we have to work really hard to get red dye out of Froot Loops in America.
I know how, whoa, that's so urgent.
You know, my goodness, lives are at stake, I say satirically.
But what about the children whose legs are being blown off?
Children whose parents are being killed.
So a little five-year-old girl has to carry her three-year-old sister on her shoulder.
Walking barefoot down the road, wondering which death camp they have to try to find their way to next because Israel just bombed the one where they were living.
And who will speak for them?
Who will speak for them in the Maha movement?
Answer?
Fuck nobody.
That's the answer.
Fuck nobody.
Who will speak for them in the Trump administration?
No one.
No one.
And if the lives of Palestinian children don't count, what about the plan for Greater Israel?
Greater Israel is a plan that will require the mass slaughter of millions of people, including more children in Egypt, in Jordan, in Lebanon, in Syria, in Saudi Arabia, parts of Iraq, and other countries.
Well, if children in Gaza don't count, then I suppose to those people, children in Lebanon don't count either, do they?
Children in Egypt don't count.
Well, Israel, you know, they say God gave us this land, which is a lie.
Actually, Israel broke the covenant so many times that whatever God promised Abraham is long since null and void.
A covenant is a contract, requires Israel to be good people.
They broke that hundreds of times in the Old Testament alone.
They have no claim to this land that is modern-day Egypt or Saudi Arabia or Iraq or Jordan or Turkey, for that matter.
Yes, greater Israel also requires Turkish children to be murdered.
It's the same pattern again and again and again.
Netanyahu says, Well, we think there's terrorists under those homes, or there might be tunnels under those hospitals, or there might be rockets in those people's houses, and so we have to bomb all of them.
And then Netanyahu says, we warned them, get out of harm's way.
We want you to get out of harm's way.
Please get out of harm's way while Israel carries out the harm.
And Israeli Zionist donors tell American officials, don't talk about this.
And so the people flee southern Lebanon, the houses get bombed, and then Israel says, well, we need a buffer zone for our safety, so we're just going to have to move in and take that land.
Everything south of the Latani River, you know, for now, we need a buffer zone.
And now they're also saying, well, we need to colonize Gaza for our safety.
We have to just take Gaza.
Yeah, after we bombed it into rubble and bulldozed it and killed hundreds of thousands of civilians there or displaced them, starved them out, we just have to take that land too because all the other Palestinian lands we took, well, that's not enough.
We need to be safe.
Therefore, we need to take those lands and colonize those lands.
And then before long, southern Lebanon won't be enough.
Netanyahu will say, well, you know, we feel unsafe because we think there are terrorists in northern Lebanon.
So we're going to need to take northern Lebanon.
We need a buffer zone there.
Let's bomb all those people.
Let's murder those children.
Let's starve out and displace those people.
Please get out of harm's way because we're going to bomb your homes, your hospitals, your mosques, your refugee camps.
We're going to tell you here's an exit route, and then when you march toward that exit route, we'll bomb you on the way to the exit as well because they did that in Gaza.
And as they do this, the plan of greater Israel takes shape, which requires the mass slaughter of millions of people in Lebanon, in Turkey, in Syria, in Jordan, in Saudi Arabia, and other countries.
If Trump is president, will he remain silent?
Will he support this expansionist colonial occupation plan?
Of the Zionist regime that respects no international law whatsoever?
And the answer is clear.
The answer is yes.
Trump will support it.
RFK Jr.
will say nothing.
The supporters of RFK Jr.
and of Trump, they will say nothing except pro-Israel commentary, and they will call people like me anti-Semites, not even realizing that the real Semites are the Palestinian people, because they are the sons and daughters of Abraham, whereas most of the Israelis there are imports from Europe.
They have no claim on that land, no claim whatsoever, if you really want to debate the issue.
But the point is, When you go down that slippery slope and you say that the children of Gaza don't matter, then it's a very easy incremental new decision to say, well, then the children of Lebanon don't matter.
And those 30% of those children are Christians, by the way.
And then to say, well, the children of, you know, Egypt don't matter.
The children of Turkey don't matter.
The children of earth don't matter.
The only children that matter are the Zionist children because, you know, they're the chosen ones.
God chose them.
If that's your position, and you claim to represent MAGA or Maha, you've got your priorities all backwards.
If you can't defend the lives of children in Palestine, then you're not qualified to fight for the lives of children anywhere, because all children's lives matter.
There is no Every child is a divine creation from God and the power of Mother Nature through procreation of a man and a woman coming together to create a family.
Every child is a miracle.
Every child has a life worth defending.
And if you throw some away, Because you need money for politics in America, then you've abandoned what you claim to believe in.
That abandonment has already happened in the Maha movement.
That's why I've said publicly, Donald J. Trump, I will vote for you when you denounce Israel's genocide.
Otherwise, I will not.
RFK Jr., I will respect you when you denounce Israel's genocide.
Del Big Tree, I will respect you when you denounce Israel's genocide.
Charlie Kirk, you know, Ben Shapiro, Mark Levin, all the rest of them, I will respect you when you denounce Israel's genocide.
If you cannot do that, then, frankly, the whole world will never respect you because they will see the hypocrisy.
If this were World War II, and this were a Steven Spielberg movie, it's people like me that would be Schindler.
Schindler's List.
We would be the ones trying to save the Jews, to save the innocent people from being killed.
And it would be those who are on the side of Zionism and being silent about genocide who would be with the Third Reich.
I know, it's a harsh metaphor, but it's true.
Schindler was pro-humanity.
He was trying to save the lives of innocent people.
That's what I am trying to do.
That's what Dennis Kucinich is trying to do.
That's what a great many people who are pro-peace activists are trying to do.
But finally, understand Zionism is a philosophy rooted in ethnic supremacy.
It is, by definition, racist.
Zionism supposes that a certain group of people Certain ethnic Jews in Israel typically are superior to everyone else, and that they have been granted permission by God to slaughter everyone else, to steal their land, to take their resources, and to treat everyone like Amalek, to treat everyone like subhuman animals.
That's their philosophy.
That's what they believed.
In fact, it is the leaders of Israel, Netanyahu and others, who stated these things, and these statements became evidence in the International Court of Justice, the ICJ, and as well as the ICC, which has condemned Netanyahu as a war criminal.
If you believe in Zionism, then you believe in apartheid.
You believe in ethnic supremacy.
You believe that certain people can be chosen...
You believe in slavery.
You believe in apartheid.
Have no illusions.
Do not kid yourself.
If you believe in Zionism, that is exactly what you believe.
And if you believe those things, your beliefs are not compatible with the United States Constitution.
They are not compatible with the beliefs of liberty, which...
The MAGA movement claims to support.
You cannot believe in the Constitution and also support Zionism at the same time because they are irreconcilable.
If you believe in what Dr.
Martin Luther King taught humanity, that people should be judged by the content of their character, not the color of their skin, and certainly not their ethnicity, If you believe in Dr.
King's message, then you cannot believe in Zionism.
You cannot be on the side of Zionism.
And if you choose to be so, history will judge you harshly.
And probably so will God.
The true path to freedom for humanity is to denounce all forms of slavery, apartheid, ethnic supremacy, Authoritarianism, tyranny, and genocide.
Denounce it all, without exceptions.
If you oppose slavery and apartheid, and if you oppose genocide, and if you oppose the Holocaust, you have to oppose those things for all human beings.
You cannot carve out exceptions.
Like, you know, mass slaughter of human beings is wrong unless they're Palestinian children, unless they're in Gaza, unless they're in Lebanon.
It doesn't fly.
Principles have to be universal or they are not principles.
The fact that a group with a lot of money wants you to look the other way and excuse their apartheid, their genocide, because they want to expand their colonizing of the Middle East and they need to slaughter and murder and displace more people.
If you go along with that, you surrender your moral righteousness.
You surrender your Any standing that you had on any moral argument.
I mean, can you imagine being an attorney like RFK Jr.
and appearing before the court, you know, suing Kellogg's over red dye or something like that?
Your Honor, Kellogg's put red dye and the breakfast cereal in Froot Loops, and the judge says, but you supported the genocidal bombing of, you know, 50,000 children.
Right?
I mean, how do you answer that?
You don't.
Because the contradiction is it burns a hole through your soul.
It burns a hole through your character.
You have no standing in society if you abandon your morality at such a level.
Those who supported the Third Reich and who supported the Holocaust and the mass slaughter of Jews in Europe, when World War II ended, those people hid in shame.
And many of them were hunted and For prosecution, for their complicity in those crimes against humanity.
Some of them are still being hunted today for the same purpose.
Like I said, this is the defining moment of our lives.
When Trump says things like, finish the job, like Netanyahu's doing a good job, finish the job, finish it quickly.
What does that translate into?
Drop more bombs more quickly.
Kill them all more quickly.
Make the genocide accelerated.
And that is not acceptable.
And that's why I cannot vote for Trump unless he denounces that genocide.
And that's why I cannot support RFK Jr. unless he redeems his morality by denouncing the genocide that's being carried out by Israel.
And that's why I implore all of the people who are promoting Trump or promoting RFK Jr., you know, people like Del Bigtree, people like Charlie Kirk, I implore you strongly consider the position that you are taking.
Because this chapter of your life, there's no undo.
There are no second chances.
You will find yourself on one side or the other of this issue.
And I fear that on your current path, you will one day find yourself on the side that the Nazi supporters were on after the fall of the Third Reich because Israel is going to fall.
It's very likely that the United States Empire is also going to fall financially, possibly under Trump.
And when the West no longer controls the narrative, the whole world will amplify the truth of the hundreds of thousands of dead Palestinians, the dead children.
Museums will be built to commemorate the suffering and death that was inflicted upon them by the Zionists of Israel.
Just as there are Holocaust museums built today all over the Western world, there will be museums commemorating the apartheid of Israel and the Holocaust of Gaza.
And your name, if you are complicit in this, your name will be recorded in those museums as atrocity enablers.
And in that case, the Maha movement will go down in history as being complicit in genocide of children.
And that would be a disgrace to humanity.
If in advocating for health, we can't start with the premise that it's wrong to murder children, then we should scratch the agenda and start over.
And I'll add this, even if Trump is elected, the U.S. empire is finished.
There will be no CDC. There will be no FDA. There will be no EPA. There will be no USDA. You know why?
Because the dollar will collapse.
There will be no currency.
There will be no Washington, D.C. centralized federal control over the 50 states because it's on the verge of collapse.
And it's on the verge of collapse, partly because of its moral failings, but also, of course, its catastrophic economic policies and its imperialism.
Warmongering around the world.
The United States Empire, together with Israel, has become an empire of mass terror that uses weapons of coercion, economic sanctions, stealing, mass theft of other countries' deposits, such as the stealing of nearly $300 billion from Russia.
Because it was deposited as Western currencies in European banks.
The West is engaged in pillaging, looting, actual piracy on the high seas, stealing ships from other nations, changing the flags to Western flags, just literally stealing massive ships like oil tankers.
Did you know the US just steals ships on the high seas?
That's what they do.
The US has engaged in All kinds of CIA operations, assassinations, overthrowing leaders, color revolutions, political coups in Ukraine in 2014, Victoria Nuland.
The United States destroyed the Nord Stream pipelines, which has destroyed the industrial output of Germany and has doomed much of Western Europe.
The U.S. with Israel is likely going to drag us into a war with Iran, which will result in the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, which will absolutely devastate the energy supply to the Western world.
Europe will be gutted in terms of its industrial output.
It will largely revert to an agrarian society.
And the United States will suffer extremely high energy prices, further inflation.
And ultimately leading to collapse because the only thing that leaders like Trump know how to do is to print more money.
Printing trillions of dollars, pushing interest rates artificially low to the point where the dollar collapses.
This is why everybody who knows anything in the world is buying gold, including the central banks of China and Russia and India and even Turkey and Saudi Arabia and other countries.
Because the days of the U.S. Empire are drawing to an end.
And you know why?
Because America's leaders only achieved great failure.
Moral failure, economic failure, failure to abide by the rule of law, failure to honor the existence of any other country, failure to even recognize the sovereignty of other nations.
What the United States has done for decades, Is exactly what Israel's trying to do right now.
The Greater Israel Project is essentially...
The post-World War II United States Empire Expansion Project that has been described in various means, such as the Wolfowitz Doctrine or the economic hitman John Perkins and his book.
I interviewed him many years ago.
What the U.S. does is it runs around the world compromising, coercing, blackmailing, assassinating, forcing, threatening, otherwise overthrowing nations in order to pillage them.
The world today has declared that that will no longer be tolerated, that the United States empire and the Israeli regime will be stopped.
And you see this right now in the BRICS nations.
They're creating their own new currency, their own settlement currency.
They do not need the dollar.
Many of these nations are abandoning the dollar even right now in their trade.
The United States can barely produce anything any longer.
While industrial output in China dwarfs every other nation in the world, China has literally 200 times more naval ship production, dry dock capacity than does the United States.
200 times more.
Russia, its energy output and steel output dwarf the United States.
Mineral output India is rising up rapidly as a massive industrial output base with very advanced technology.
Iran has demonstrated advanced hypersonic ballistic missile technology.
These days even Yemen has ballistic missiles.
The West is falling into obsolescence.
The military projection capabilities of the United States Navy are failing.
The U.S. Navy is obsolete.
The Red Sea has been shut down by Yemen.
The entire United States Navy, with all of its ships and aircraft carriers, and hundreds of thousands of sailors, cannot keep the ports open for Israel.
Israel's economy is in a state of collapse.
Its industrial investment has collapsed.
Its tourism has collapsed.
Its population is in a state of collapse.
Those who know are fleeing Israel.
Israel is unlikely to survive as an intact nation through this conflict that the US and Israel are whipping up.
The world is changing rapidly, and those who do not recognize this, and especially those who continue to side with Zionism and genocide against women and children, These people are going to find themselves shocked by the speed, the pace of change, the whiplash that will happen geopolitically, economically, and also morally around our world.
Because the world is done with the terrorism of the U.S. empire and the Israeli regime.
The world is done with it.
If Donald Trump becomes president of the United States again, he will be the last president of this empire.
And the empire will collapse underneath him.
There will be a day where he is on the floor, on his knees, sobbing in the Oval Office as the nation collapses.
That's what's coming for Donald Trump.
Why?
Moral failures, economic failures, and also decades of sabotage and damage carried out against America by others, including the Bushes and the Obamas and others.
And the Bidens, of course.
You can't fix it by just taking money while compromising your morals in order to get the right people into office and thinking that they are going to be your savior.
It's not going to happen.
America's finished.
Israel is finished.
The philosophy of Zionism, apartheid in the Middle East, it's done.
It's just a matter of how it is defeated at this point.
If you want to be on the right side of history, denounce genocide, denounce money printing, denounce the terror empires of the United States and Israel, and join humanity.
Make America great again will fail because America will fail.
Make America healthy again will fail because it compromised with evil.
If you don't realize this, you're living in the past.
You're not seeing what's coming.
And to wrap this up, yes I realize that my comments may get me labeled an anti-Semite by the dishonest Zionists who are murdering children but I will never be labeled a child murderer.
I will never be labeled someone who looked the other way while children were being slaughtered by my donors, for example.
That will never happen.
And whatever happens to America, whatever happens under the eyes of God, I will face the world with a sense of honesty and a sense of courage and righteousness knowing that I told the truth when it counted and that I stood up and fought for humanity when it counted in an age when so many false members of so-called team humanity refused to fight for the children of humanity when it counted.
I will go to my grave knowing that I did what was right and that I did what was demanded of us, and that I stood with morals and courage for all human beings, all the children of this world, children of different skin colors, who spoke different languages, who honored different religions, who were born in different countries, because that has been my consistent position this entire time.
And when the day comes that there is a Holocaust wall of shame of those names of people who were complicit in the mass slaughter of children during the project of expansion of greater Israel, I can assure you my name will not be on that wall, but I may be writing your name on that wall if you are complicit.
History will be writing your name.
What you do matters.
Life is short.
Make it count.
For the language of love And morality is universal.
And with that, I will conclude this and I will say to all those of Jewish tradition, I issue blessings to you from our Lord, the Lord that you recognize, even though you don't recognize Jesus, you recognize our Creator.
May blessings be upon you from our Lord.
For all of you who are Christians, may you live in peace and blessings As you follow the teachings of Jesus Christ, our Savior, that is who I follow.
Those are the teachings that I follow.
And for those of you who follow Islam and who follow the prophet Muhammad and who worship Allah, may peace be upon him.
I wish you blessings because God wants every one of us to live in peace and to protect all of our children, children of Allah, children of Christ, children of the Lord, children.
I mean, you can call God anything you want.
All children are children of God.
And I invoke blessings and peace upon all of you.
And I denounce all those who commit violence against children or those who look the other way as violence takes place.
This is when it counts.
We are part of the fabric of history right now.
This is not a time for small hearts, small minds, and small morals.
This is a time for big hearts, big minds, and big morals to protect small children.
If we're not willing to do that, we have to question our very humanity.
God bless you all.
I'm Mike Adams of brighttown.com and naturalnews.com.
Thank you for listening, and note that I will never be invited to anything ever again for daring to say this.
And yet, it needed to be said.
God bless you all.
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He joins us with our co-host today, Todd Pitner, who joins us from Florida as storms are rolling through.
Welcome, gentlemen, to the show today.
It's an honor to have you both here.
Thank you.
It's our delight and honor to be with you.
Thanks, Mike.
Good to see you as always.
It's great to see both of you.
And Joel, I gotta say, Todd and I are longtime fans of your work, and we have learned much from you over the years and implemented some of it, not all of it, but some of it.
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Yeah, so we farm in Virginia's Shenandoah Valley, which is on the western side of Virginia.
We own about 950 acres.
250 acres is open, 700 is woodland.
And then we rent another about 1,200 acres in the area from other people, additional pasture.
So we're in pastured livestock.
So we have salad bar beef, pigerator pork, pastured poultry.
That includes turkeys, broilers, and eggs.
We have rabbits, lambs, and ducks for duck eggs.
So we're in all sorts of pastured livestock.
And We retail everything, so we don't wholesale.
We retail, we ship nationwide, and there's about 22 salaries that get generated here from the farm.
So it's quite an exciting place.
Thank you for that intro, but you also, of course, help teach people about the methods that you are using.
And I think, in addition to a lot of people appreciating your products, they also appreciate the knowledge that you've gained and shared over the years.
You want to talk about that for a second?
Sure, and thank you for that.
Yes, we're very much a teaching farm, so probably the core of our teaching is we run a very formal apprenticeship and stewardship program.
We started the apprenticeship program almost 30 years ago, and the stewardship program about 10 years later.
Stewardship, a lot of people would call them interns, but we call them stewards because that more captures what we're after, and it also is not...
Interns is now a little bit of a demeaning thing.
Oh, you mean all you can do is get coffee for the boss?
And so the steward kind of elevates them to a different place.
And so we have that program.
It's very, very formal.
We take it very seriously and invest a lot of time.
We have half a day a week is in what we call shop talk, where we do everything from How to do small engine repair, to tie knots in a rope, and all sorts of these things.
And then we do an on-farm two-day seminar every summer, two or three of these, called the Polyface Intensive Discovery Seminar, shortened to PIDS. Americans can't talk in multisyllabic words, so...
We shorten it to PIDS, the acronym, and it's a two-day, six-meal seminar, worth coming just for the meals, but it's basically our most intimate, behind-the-scenes look for people that want to come and learn how to do these things.
We butcher chickens, we butcher rabbits, we build compost, we cut trees, we mill timber, we make...
You know, boards and move cows and move pigs and, you know, build ponds and roads and all sorts of things.
So it's a very intensive two day.
And then, beyond that, I've written 16 books.
So, you know, there's a pretty hefty, you know, book deal.
I do a video curriculum that's now over 30 hours.
We're trying to get to 100 in a couple of years.
It's called Farm Like a Lunatic, and it's how to make a commercial white-collar salary on a farm.
It's not geared.
There's a lot of material in that for small-scale homesteader types, but this is really geared to commercial farmers, and I don't think there's anything really like it out there, and so that's a video curriculum that we do.
And then we host gatherings.
So starting in 2020, we began hosting gatherings here.
And we built the Lunatic Learning Center.
I mean, I'm the Lunatic farmer, right?
So we have the Lunatic Learning Center, which can handle 300 to 400 people.
And we do all sorts of educational gatherings for different organizations that want to get together and have great food in a pastoral, bucolic setting, child-friendly, you know, ponds you can fish in, and very family-friendly as opposed to an urban conference center.
A lot cheaper and a lot better food and a lot better air to breathe.
So, you know, we do those as well.
I'm the editor of the Stopman Grass Farmer, which is the world's leading trade magazine in pastured livestock production.
And so, you know, we have that going on as well.
So, yeah, there's a lot of outreach here.
We do lunatic tours.
Did one last Saturday.
We've got our last one of the year coming up in a couple of weeks.
Where people come for a two-and-a-half-hour hayride tour, and we do several of those a season to accommodate people that want to just kind of come and peek in and see what we do and get the dog and pony show.
And I do a lot of speaking around the world.
I travel internationally and here, speaking, doing seminars and things like that.
So, yeah, it's a heavy education schedule as well.
Absolutely.
Let me bring in Todd here because, Todd, I know you want to take your food for us to the next stage.
I don't know if you want to cut your own timber.
But now we know where you can go to learn all those skills if you want.
But how thrilled are you to have Joel as our guest?
This is amazing.
And my initial assessment is that Joel's Netflix subscription goes way underutilized based upon what he just shared in his schedule.
So, Joel, you know, I'm a lunatic learner, and I did a lot of research prior to this interview, and I just kind of want to paint a picture for our viewing audience so we can kind of hone in on what polyface farming is.
So I want to just kind of describe something, and you tell me if I have it right.
So I want us to imagine...
An animal's mouth being a paintbrush, okay?
And a large field, pasture field, being the canvas.
Now, as I understand it, a polyface farm is a grass culture farm where the primary focus is on the grass as the canvas.
And the animals, they don't just paint the canvas in one little area.
That would be pretty ugly painting, right?
They shift their painting daily, and over time, these grazing cells, I think is what you call it, paint the entire canvas or the entire field into a beautiful, beautiful masterpiece that, when you zoom out, looks like a perfectly Grilled ribeye steak on my dinner plate.
Is that right, Joel?
Do I have that right?
Man, you're a great word picture guy.
I like that.
I've never had that expressed exactly that way, but being a fellow wordsmith, yeah, I'll take it.
You get an A+. Right.
That's great.
Well, let's do this.
Polly Face.
That's very original.
Can you unpack that for us, please?
I shouldn't be thinking about the face of a Sopranos mobster named Polly, right?
What is Polly Face for me?
So polyface is, poly of course, is the prefix, Latin prefix for many.
You know, you have polygots, polygons, polygons.
So polyfaces, when we started, we knew that we were going to have multiple enterprises.
So we weren't going to just be cattle.
We were going to be multiple enterprises from trees to cows to whatever.
We also knew that we wanted to be a people-centric farm.
From day one, we aspired to populate the farm with loving, caressing caretakers, as opposed to the current USDA orthodoxy is, let's depopulate the farms, do it all with robots and machinery, and get rid of all the people on the farms.
And so we wanted to be people, so that would be, you know, human faces.
And so it was that idea of many of everything that we wanted to capture in the polyface.
I've got a question.
Yes, that's fascinating.
No, I love that because the first time I heard it, I was thinking polyphase, like, you know, from the science perspective, solid liquid gas plasma.
And then I was like, no, it's polyphase.
Oh, okay.
That makes more sense.
Here's a question I have for you.
I live in central Texas and it's cattle country.
And the way that I see cattle ranchers...
I can't even say use the land.
They abuse the land.
They put way too many cattle on it.
They end up with nutrient-poor soils that they have to then treat aggressively with a lot of chemical applications, weed killers and so on.
They always end up with not enough food.
Typically in the summer, and then they have to supplement hay, and the hay was cut from somebody else's field that grew nothing but weeds, so it's like weed hay, and they cut down most of the trees, and the cattle don't have enough shade, and I'm like, this can't be the way to do this.
There's got to be a better way.
What's your reaction when you see an operation like that?
Well, it's all over the world.
It's not just in Texas, trust me.
It's all over the world, and it is the normal.
It is the normal.
So what it is is a deviation.
The important thing to realize is that what you're seeing, what you're describing, is a deviation from what What nature's patterns are.
So if you look at herbivores in nature, cows and herbivore.
Okay, let's deal with that.
Cows and herbivore.
So if you look at herbivores in nature, whether it's zebras in Africa, wildebeest on the Serengeti, those are the biggest wild herds now.
Used to be the American bison.
Before that, it was the Rx in Europe.
If you look at these herbivores around the world, what you see is they're doing three things.
They're moving.
They're moving onto new ground.
A lot of times it's in search of food.
Sometimes it's to get away from a predator.
They're mobbed up.
They're not spread out.
They're bunched together pretty tightly.
That's for predator protection.
They're mobbing, they're moving, and they're mowing.
They're not eating dead chickens and carry-on and stuff.
They're actually eating vegetation material that they then ferment in their multi-stomachs.
And so moving, mobbing, mowing is kind of the foundation, the platform of herbivores around the world.
So if you violate any one of those, moving, mobbing, or mowing, if you violate any of them, you suddenly take an asset and turn it into a liability.
And the fact is that some, you know, whatever, 95% of all cattle in the world Violate at least one of those, moving, mobbing, mowing, they either violate it, one, two, and sometimes three, and therefore they turn from an asset into a liability.
The deepest soils, healthiest soils on the planet are not under trees, and they're not under bushes, they're not under cropland, they're under prairies, where herbivores for years and prairies together have built this soil, because grass is a more It has a more efficient metabolism of solar energy than trees and bushes, than woody species.
But the grass has a very short life cycle.
That's the problem.
It grows and it gets old and it turns to carbon.
And so using the herbivore as a pruner to restart the rapid growth cycle of the grass actually collects a lot more solar energy and actually builds soil.
We call this mob-stocking herbivorous solar conversion, lignified carbon sequestration, fertilization.
I love that.
That makes perfect sense.
Yeah, exactly.
Todd, go ahead.
I know you want to jump in.
Wow.
Well, you know, again, in my research, what I realized is in your whole polyface farming practice, there is a set of heroes.
And I had no idea who these heroes were.
So you need to let me know if I have this right.
And everybody out there, excuse the language, I'm just being technical here.
When animals graze, shit happens, right?
And as we can infer, massive cow patties, they attract flies, which ultimately terrorize the cows because flies bite the butts that feed them, apparently.
Now, they aren't, because they're just not very smart, Joel.
So, to combat the flies, what do you do?
You and your team do.
You send in the real heroes, which are the chickens.
Tell us about how the chickens solved the fly biting problem, Joel.
Yeah, so...
So if you look in nature, the egret on the rhino's nose, the macaws, the birds that follow the herbivores, if you look at any nature program, there's all these birds swarming behind the herbivores.
The bird-herbivore relationship is one of the most...
Synergistic and symbiotic relationships in nature.
And so we're looking at these cow pies and the flies and all this.
How can we get birds behind the cows?
And so we follow the cows with a movable, portable hen house.
We call it the egg mobile.
And the egg mobiles follow the cows about, you know, three to four days.
That's the fly cycle.
And the chickens then, they're attracted, they learn very quickly that in those cow pies are these fly maggots, larvae, fly larvae, they're maggots, and so that pays the salary for the chickens to tear them all apart, And they take that cow pie and they make it cover way more ground, which eliminates the repugnancy zone for when the cows come back in to graze because it's now spread the fertility out into a more metabolizable, assimilatable volume which eliminates the repugnancy zone for when the cows come back in to graze because it's
And they've eliminated the flies and, of course, the cows have just been there, so that grazing and that exposes the grasshoppers and the crickets and all the other life that's down in the pasture.
So the chickens harvest, they scoop all that up and the chickens then convert all that and turn it into the most amazing eggs you can ever imagine.
So instead of using grubicides and parasiticides and things like that, you know, systemic things, injections and pour-ons that make the...
The cows so anti-insect that, you know, that kills them.
Anything that kills bugs, I probably don't want to eat.
And so instead of doing that, we use the chickens as a biological sanitizer behind the cows and a fertility engine.
And so the animals do the work instead of us.
So we don't have to buy anything from off the farm.
We don't have to put the cows through the head gate, anything of that sort of thing.
Yes, the chickens I wonder where you were going with that, Todd.
The chickens are the heroes because they then, not only do they do all this work for us, But guess what?
They lay eggs.
They lay eggs as a byproduct of the pasture sanitation.
And so it's a wonderful, positive contribution.
Well, I'm glad you mentioned that, Joel, because now I'm realizing that I've been doing it wrong when I take my dogs for a walk out to the areas where I have donkeys on a lot more acreage, and my dogs try to eat the donkey poo.
I think I need to teach...
I need to have chickens eating the cow poo instead of my dogs eating the donkey poo.
But I just gave up teaching them not to.
I'm like, go for it.
It's fermented grass.
Maybe they need some probiotics.
I don't know.
But just let them go for it.
They can have the donkey poo.
They actually enjoy it.
Now, if you can teach your dogs to lay eggs...
That would be a trick.
You're going to be in high cotton.
Yeah, exactly.
Now, I want to ask you then about this global war against ranchers.
And there is this idea now, especially among those who absolutely despise carbon dioxide, that they think that all cattle are bad, that all ranching is bad, even that all meat is bad.
And it seems like they're missing a very important point is that you can take land even think about Nevada or West Texas or Oklahoma many places you can take land that barely functions for anything else but through the use of things like cattle They can convert,
like you mentioned earlier, the solar energy goes into the grass, the cow goes out and gathers the grass, and even finds its own water sources, if you've got them anywhere around, and it gathers that and it concentrates that into a nourishment product for humanity.
So cows can take land that has virtually no value, and they can actually add value to it for humanity.
Why do some people hate this process?
Well, it's kind of what you mentioned earlier is that most ranchers are not actually increasing the soil.
They're not actually helping the land with their cattle ranching.
They're actually depleting the land.
So when you look at You know, documentaries like Cowspiracy and What the Health and things like that, you know, their data collection is based on convention, you know, the normal stuff and the orthodoxy of the day.
And that orthodoxy is not what we do.
We're a complete lunatic fringe.
We're, you know, out here.
And so those scientists are not coming here collecting data.
And so what's happening, so if you're collecting data from a dysfunctional system, it might lead you to a dysfunctional conclusion.
And so that's where this war on ranchers is developing.
And so in the first part of these documentaries, I'm sitting there, you know, when they're...
You know, impugning conventional ranching and agriculture.
I'm sitting there, yeah, yeah, boy, preach it, preach it.
But the answer is not veganism.
The answer is not getting rid of all the cows.
The answer is, well...
How did the bison do it?
How did the wildebeest do it?
How can we do this to actually grow more soil?
That's the answer.
I mean, it should give us all pause to realize that 500 years ago, North America produced more food than it does today.
Now, it wasn't all eaten by people.
We had 2 million wolves to feed.
That was 40 million pounds a day just with the wolves.
We had 200 million beavers.
They ate more vegetables because they're herbivores.
They ate more vegetables than all the people in North America today.
Audubon sat under a tree in 1820 in Massachusetts.
He couldn't see the sun for three days because the passenger pigeons flying over blotted out all the sun for three days.
Wow.
That's before Cargill, Tyson, and Purdue.
And so it was really actually extremely abundant and had more animals, if we put humans into the animal category, it had more animal weight on it 500 years ago than it does today.
So the question is not...
You know, are we overpopulated?
Do we have too many cows or whatever?
No, the question is, how do we move to those ancient patterns?
With modern technology, yes.
How do we move to those ancient patterns and recapture that abundance that was here in the past?
So we move our cows every day to mimic the movement of the bison.
They didn't stay in one place.
We move our cows every day using high-tech electric fence with computer microchip energizers.
And, you know, we can do this for the first time in human history.
We now have the technology to actually do the movement a little better than fire and wolves and a little more control.
We can literally put a steering wheel, a brake, and an accelerator on, you know, a herd of 500 cows and steer them across the landscape with the same precision as a zero-turn mower on a golf course.
That's pretty cool.
Yeah, very cool.
And let me add one more thing before Todd comes back in.
In Europe in particular, one of the ways they attack farming and ranching is they've identified this one element now.
This one element called nitrogen is now apparently the enemy of mankind for some reason.
We used to call it fertilizer.
Now they say it's a pollutant that's destroying the world because animals produce it as a byproduct of their metabolism.
And so they're shutting down farms across the Netherlands and many European countries because of the nitrogen.
How does your farm deal with nitrogen in a positive way?
Oh, boy, this is always a difficult one because I've been to the Netherlands half a dozen times doing seminars.
And the problem in the Netherlands is that they are importing shiploads and shiploads and shiploads of grain out of Paraguay, Uruguay and Paraguay.
and Brazil, and turning the whole country into a toilet.
The problem is imbalance, okay?
It's not the...
They're putting on, they're raising so many animals with all this imported grain, feedstocks.
I mean, for example, I'm talking to a young couple, one of the last seminars I did there.
Young couple, the dairy couple, you know, came in.
I said, you know, I got to meet them.
I said, so, you know, you're dairying.
How many cows do you have?
They said, 100.
I said, so how big is your place?
10 acres.
Oh, my gosh.
You can't put 100 cows on 10 acres without having excess manure.
So the countryside smells like poop because the canals, you know, Netherlands is a low country, all the canals are clogged up with all this poop and this nitrogen is growing vegetation and willows clogging up the canals so the country can't drain.
Well, then the water systems don't work because of the clogging up of the vegetation.
And so the country is just, Over, you know, oversaturated with this.
So what we do on our farm, A, we maintain a balance.
For example, for example...
Our pastured broilers, we put 75 or 76 in a 10 foot by 12 foot by 2 foot tall field shelter.
We move them every day to a fresh spot.
We're putting on 200 pounds of nitrogen per acre on that pass.
We don't touch that square foot for a whole year.
To allow three to four growth cycles come off of that grass to metabolize that nitrogen before the chickens go back on.
The fact is, it doesn't matter whether it's organic, chemical, or anything else.
If you put more nitrogen on than the climate, your context can metabolize into vegetation, that nitrogen is going to go somewhere.
It's either going to go in the atmosphere or it's going to go in the aquifer or the groundwater.
It's going to go somewhere.
We have to be appreciative of balance.
So in the wintertime, when the soil is dormant and can't eat and the actinomycetes and the mycelium and the earthworms are hibernating, we feed hay for the cows.
If we got a blizzard and you run out of grass, we feed hay to the cows under a shed roof awning with a carbonaceous diaper of wood chips Underneath the cows to absorb all the manure and urine so it doesn't go anywhere and we can then compost it to put that compost on the fields.
And it doesn't smell like nitrogen.
It smells like forest leaves because it's balanced out with the carbon.
The carbon nitrogen balance has to be the same.
I'm so glad to hear that.
Todd, I mean...
See, to be a good rancher, you also have to understand the chemistry of what's going on, the cycles.
Absolutely.
And so I just have one question for Joel then pertaining to that.
Joel, when did God actually sit down with you to give you the inside scoop on how to create the systems like you have?
Joel, come on.
Give it to us.
You know, it's really very simple.
Let me say it this way.
You know, early on, so we came to the farm in 1961.
I'm four years old.
Dad's trying to figure out, how do you make a living on a farm?
And, you know, it was gullies and rock pile.
And I remember as a kid walking the whole farm and never setting foot on a piece of vegetation.
It was that thin and that poor.
And so, as Dad was looking at these systems, he said, well, you know what?
Let's just look at what nature does.
Let's see what nature does.
And it's really very simple.
Let's just take a simple phrase.
Animals move.
When you look at nature, animals, they don't stay in one spot.
There isn't a spot where the...
Where the bison stands, they move.
Well, if you just take that simple phrase, animals move, well, suddenly, if they move, I've got to control them because the neighbors don't want them.
I've got to be able to control where I want them to go.
I've got to have shelter for them because they're going to be moving in and out of trees and different things.
I've got to be able to feed them.
I've got to move their feed around.
I've got to move their water around.
So over the years, we've put in 12 miles of buried water line around all of our fields from high permaculture-style ponds that gravity feed, no electricity, no pumps, that gravity feed down 12-mile grid of water that gives us 70 PSI water around all our fields from ponds up on high ground.
Wow.
That's the kind of infrastructure development.
So people come and say, wow, this is amazing, you know, they can't believe that this is done.
The whole thing was from a simple phrase, animals move.
And as soon as you posit that, then a whole other bunch of stuff comes out, like, you know, how does nature build soil?
Well, it doesn't do it with 10-10-10 chemical fertilizer.
It certainly doesn't do it with Roundup and DDT. It builds it with carbon.
Carbon, very simple.
All right, well, if soil is built with carbon, how do we get more carbon in the soil?
These are very simple concepts with profound ramifications.
So our creativity and innovation, the things that we've put together, Or not because we sat down and said, you know, had a focus group and said, hey, let's see how we can be a creative farm.
You know, it was simply phrases like that.
You know, institute carbon-billed soil, animals move, simple phrases like that, and the ramifications then just, you know, bring the inventions.
Joel, what you said is so fascinating to me, because Similar projects that I've been working on, I have some questions.
In order to establish that 70 PSI, what's the vertical height differential that you have on those ponds?
And I'm very curious how you have the intake from those higher elevation ponds too.
Do you happen to know that Yeah, so it's.432 pounds per vertical foot.
Okay.
So every foot per vertical gives you.432 pounds.
Okay.
So it's a hundred and something feet.
Yeah, so, yeah, 70,.432 pounds.
Yeah, 162 feet.
Okay, that's awesome.
And then, how do you have the intake from that?
Because you don't want to have a pipe that goes over the berm and into the pond because you'd have priming problems.
Do you have a pipe that goes under the berm?
That's right, that's right.
The pipe goes through the base of the dam, but here's the critical thing.
I'll mention two critical things.
Boy, we're really getting it.
I appreciate it.
I don't ever get asked this kind of stuff.
Well, we're interested.
Yeah, good.
All right.
So it goes to the base of the dam.
And the problem is that in an earthen dam, when you put a PVC pipe through there, let's say a two, two, two and a half inch PVC pipe.
Oh, it'll crack.
Yeah.
You get movement.
Not that.
The problem is you can't really seal it up with dirt.
You can put the best clay in there as possible, but there will be seepage down along the slick side of that pipe.
Okay, okay.
So the key to eliminate any seepage or leakage is to put in, we use three, just pond collars.
They're called pond collars.
So we just kind of, you know, with a shovel, we dig a little bit of trench around, and then we just lay in something, you know, eight inches or so, mix up some sackcrete, and just put three nice big globs of sackcrete, one at the front of the dam, one at the end of the dam, one in the middle of the dam.
That way, when that water seeps down along the edge of that pipe, it has to go out around this, you know, Maybe 12 inches out around this glob of concrete.
Wow.
You put three of them in, they're called pond collars.
You can buy them commercially, you know, PVC pond collars for plenty of money, but we just throw in a big glob of, you know, a nice big glob of concrete around.
So that's the first thing.
The second thing is that the best water in a pond is from 16 inches below the surface.
No kidding.
If you pull the water off the bottom of the pond, it's kind of funky and anaerobic.
If you pull it off the top of the pond, it's full of, you know, fly legs and leaves and bird poo.
And so the best water in a pond is from 16 inches under.
So we go through the bottom of the pond with the PVC, and then on a flexible pipe, you know, like a vacuum pipe hose.
It's got rib in it, but it's flexible.
And that then goes up...
I have a floaty and a piece of metal so that the intake screen hovers at 16 inches below the surface.
So the level of the pond is, it's always pulling the water off of 16 inches.
So let me ask you this.
For an intake screen, what I've done, I've got PEX pipe going into, I took a crate and I wrapped it in like poly fencing to have an intake filter.
I don't know if that's a good idea.
It seems to be working.
What do you use for an intake filter?
Well, I've made intake filters out of just taking a piece of pipe and just take a little eighth-inch drill and just drill a bunch of holes in it and plug the end with a piece of round pipe.
Yep.
But for our main intakes, we buy a screen.
You can get, you know, true blue Pond, you know, intake screens.
Yeah.
And that's probably worth the money because, you know, they really, they last pretty much forever and they're really good.
Well, very cool.
I mean...
You answered a great question for me here today, a practical question that I'm working on right now.
Because I live on a piece of land that's got elevation, that's got natural rainwater collection.
But as you know, the rainwater wants to collect where it's low, not where it's high.
But we want water high because we want the energy off of the high water.
So are you able to collect it high or do you pump it high?
Or both?
Yeah, one of the advantages that we have on our farm is we do have a lot of elevation.
We have a thousand feet of elevation difference on our farm.
Wow.
Yeah, and so we actually, so yeah, we have, you know, ravines up in the mountain that we can put up.
I mean, yeah, it does give you pause to realize the Shenandoah Valley here where we are is 80 feet long and 20, I'm 80 feet, 80 miles long and 20 miles wide, that if we had spent the time building ponds, that we spent moving dirt to plant corn that eroded all of our topsoils.
You know, ever since the Europeans came, today we would be flood-proof and drought-proof and would have literally recreated Eden.
But instead, we plowed for, you know, corn to feed cows that shouldn't have it anyway.
And eroded all the soil and now we have no soil and no ponds, no water and floods and droughts.
So we can really change the landscape dramatically with a little bit of intentional redevelopment.
That's what we love about what you're doing, Joel.
Well, Todd, what do you think about that discussion just there?
Yeah, well, I was just thinking as you guys were discussing, I'm like, man, do I interrupt?
Do I not interrupt?
Because I've been working on my own filtration system that has a bored-out carburetor and a dual quadrobustion system that'll impress the heck out of you both.
I have an old plastic crate.
That's my filter.
Your discussion goes right over my head.
But Joel, I do have a question for you.
You being a natural farming savant, you and your family and your team, what is the enemy of natural farming, if you could point to it, Joel?
The enemy of natural farming, oh boy, I was going to say something and I thought, no, I'm going to give you two.
The two big enemies are cheap food, Just a cheap food mentality, that food ought to be cheap.
A philosophy that chicken is chicken, milk is milk, cabbages are cabbages.
It's all the same.
So just grow it as cheap as you can.
It's just stuff.
And the other main enemy is government programs, the regulations and the food police and government policy.
Because right now, the official position of the USDA is that Froot Loops and Lucky Charms are more nutritious than beef.
I saw that.
Unbelievable.
Yeah, it is.
It is unbelievable.
I mean, you know, what kind of whatever, you know, mental gymnastics do you have to do to say something like that?
It's just nuts on the surface, but, you know, that's where we've come.
And there's no fruit in the Fruit Loops, people.
It's not even spelled fruit.
It's F-R-O-O-T. It's fake Froot Loops, actually, and with fake color.
It's not even food in my book.
That's fake food.
But, yeah, I would much rather have a really nicely grilled hamburger than a bowl of Froot Loops.
Are you kidding me?
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
And trust me, your multi-quadrillion microbes would also like it, too.
Yeah, right.
Because, you know, your microbes inside, you know, they didn't, ancestrally, they didn't grow up adapting to Froot Loops.
They grew up enjoying real food.
Yeah.
Hey, Joel, quick question.
We, with this show, we like to bring solutions to our viewing audience, and most of us don't have hundreds of acres to be able to farm, so it's a little elusive as far as how we would benefit from polyphase farming.
But can you give us a little insight to that?
For example, You have me salivating a little bit when you said you're not wholesale, you're retail.
That means I can go order some beef from you, some what?
What all can I order from polyfacefarm.com?
What a setup, Todd.
I'm going to reach through this Zoom call and give you a hug.
I know where you're going with this.
So first of all, yes, we do ship nationwide.
We ship every Tuesday and Wednesday of the week.
And you can get beef, pork, chicken, turkey, eggs.
And cheese, we work with an A2A2 grass-based dairy near us that does all grass-based A2A2 milk.
They make their own cheese.
And so, yeah, you can ship.
And our website, polyfacefarms.com, has the whole thing on it.
But for a small acreage, for a very, you know, let's say you've got a backyard or something.
You know, the first, I kind of have a recipe to go forward with it.
One is to start enjoying your kitchen.
You know, we've never had such techno gadgetized kitchen.
It has never been easier to cook from scratch.
And no culture has ever so profoundly advocated that participatory authenticity and accountability that comes from viscerally participating in food prep.
But it's never been easier.
I mean, we've got crockpots, instapots, we've got time bake, we've got hot, cold running water, refrigerators.
Ice cream makers, bread makers, I mean, good grief.
It's never been easier.
So domestic culinary arts, to me, are kind of the beginning of kind of an awakening, an awareness of what real food is.
I mean, the difference between a homemade food We're good to go.
Tomatoes are all cardboard because they're all selected for shippability.
If your whole cultivar selection is can this thing jiggle around in the back of a tractor trailer for 1,500 miles on the way to the supermarket, you're going to have a tomato that's cardboard and your kids won't like it because it tastes like cardboard.
So real food is different.
It tastes better.
It's nutritionally superior.
Take our eggs, for example.
We were one of 12 farms several years ago that participated in a nutritional survey.
To debunk the notion that eggs are eggs.
And so we sent our eggs into the lab, and they came back.
I'll just pick one item of it, folic acid.
Folic acid is really important, especially for pregnant women.
The USDA nutrition label says there's 48 micrograms of folic acid in an egg.
Our eggs came back 1,038.
We're not talking about 10% difference.
We're talking about major differences.
I mean, riboflavin, grass-finished beef, 300% more riboflavin in grass-finished beef than grain-finished beef.
I mean, these are real numbers, and that reflects itself in its taste and everything else.
Yeah, thanks for the plug, Todd, and I'd be glad to If somebody doesn't know where to start, yeah, you can get some from us.
If you've never had this kind of food, treat yourself.
Absolutely.
But I would also say, can I ask some of that?
Folks, you know, backyard chickens.
You know, I've been raising chickens for 15 years, and my dogs get the eggs.
We get the eggs.
I give them away.
Just like Joel said, they're the best eggs you can get.
And, you know, you can recycle kitchen scraps.
And I happen to get sometimes food from my own store operation that is rejected.
Or sometimes we get a shipment of something that's full of bugs.
Like we'll get a shipment of oats full of bugs.
Well, guess what?
My chickens love oats with bugs, you know?
Right?
So, boom, they get that.
But, Joel, I want to ask you this related to it.
We are told by the powers that be that the best way to produce food is to eliminate all farming and ranching and cattle and instead build cricket factories and then bring in these raw materials from thousands of miles away to create fake processed meat that has all kinds of chemical taste enhancers and excitotoxins in it and And yet,
when they have tried that commercially, as you've watched, the fake meat companies have gone out of business because it tastes like crap, number one.
And it's all GMO crap or whatever.
Nobody wants that stuff.
How could they be wrong?
Here's the major problem with all that stuff.
The problem is that when you do lab-cultured meat, so I'm talking about where you're actually trying to culture from actual meat.
Right.
Not making veggie burgers.
We're actually trying to culture.
The reality is that for all the hype and all the excitement and all the venture capital, billions of dollars that's gone into this over the last 10 years and promises that by now, according to the stuff that they were saying six years ago, by now they were going to be 30% of the meat industry and prices were going to collapse and the livestock industry, all the ranchers were going to go out of business because blah, blah, blah.
The reality is they haven't been able to actually culture anything bigger than a one-gallon jug because it turns out, amazingly, that your blood vessels, heart, lungs, kidneys, and livers, your body, our body and the cow's body, our bodies are really...
Pretty cool things for filtering and circulating and all that.
But if you're culturing in a vat and you're trying to grow actual cloned meat in a vat, you don't have a heart.
You don't have blood vessels.
You don't have livers and kidneys.
All you have is bubbles, so you can bubble to get movement.
And you've got mechanical filters to move waste.
And so as soon as you get any bigger than about a gallon jug, as you get up to like a five gallon bucket full of this stuff, suddenly it becomes overwhelmed with waste because the The environment simply does not have the kind of amazing circulation and filtration systems that our bodies have.
And so immediately everything becomes toxic and it just implodes on its own toxicity because it can't It can't eliminate its wastes.
It can't poop and pee like we do.
We just do it, and we don't even think about it, you know?
But these cultured things, it's incredible.
So, I don't know.
I mean, man, you know, the creativity of humans is really big, but boy, this is one that I just don't know how this is going to work out, you know, to go to any kind of scale on it.
I just don't see it.
Yeah, I mean, I don't want to eat Meat grown in the matrix, anyway.
You know what I mean?
It's like, no thanks, man.
No thanks.
It gets all nasty and putrid there, and I guess that ends up in fast food taco meat or something.
Who knows?
No, thank you.
Listen, for the theme of your The more you reduce the decentralization of food And so when our food is coming through billion-dollar laboratories through that
funnel, if that's the funnel that people are eating food from, That becomes very easy to control with nefarious agendas.
Just think about COVID. Think about COVID in 2020.
What would have happened if in April of 2020, our country, our nation, instead of being fed by 300 centralized processing plant funnels, had been fed instead from 30,000 decentralized community-based That's
right.
Exactly.
Now, Todd, the last question is going to be yours because Joel's been with us, if you can believe it, almost an hour.
I want to be respectful of your time, but time is flying here because we're so thoroughly enjoying your wisdom.
But Todd, go ahead.
Thank you.
Joel, I have a personal question.
Last Saturday, a year ago, was the final installation date of my food forest in my back property.
It was foodforestabundance.com.
Jim Gale and his team, we interviewed Jim.
Awesome, awesome team.
Two animal-related questions.
I've been, you know, it's so abundant, there's life coming out of the woodwork.
Out of the woods, if you will.
Are you going to talk about your raccoons?
No, no.
Because I guarantee you, Joel and I have the same opinion about your raccoons.
Probably, no.
I've begun to notice some large rats that look like they relocated from McDonald's dumpsters.
And also, when the sun is shining, there are a few vultures who consider their, you know, my backyard their sunbathing spa.
And my question, Joel, should I let nature be nature and just chill?
Or would you counsel me to get some pellet gun target practice in, Joel?
What say you?
Yeah, so first of all, the vultures, so if those are what we call buzzards, in other words, they're not hawks.
Are your trees the tallest in the area?
Yes.
Okay, so those vultures, they're just looking for a place to perch and roost and look for, actually, you know, the vultures are very good because when something dies, they clean it up.
If it weren't for the vultures, we'd have a very smelly world, let me tell you.
So the vultures, as opposed to hawks.
Now, what would be wonderful is if you had some hawks move in, because the hawks would get the rats, or especially owls.
Owls, they're nocturnal, rats are nocturnal.
So do you know what the rats are eating?
What are the rats eating?
I spread deer corn every morning for my deer and my raccoons.
Well, you're feeding the rats.
Let me ask you this.
Could you change your deer feeding infrastructure or regimen To keep the rats out.
I'm thinking of an elevated feeder or something.
Sure, I can certainly do that.
And let me be clear, there's two rats.
They live in the same place.
They come out, I see them, they skedaddle when I go in.
So it's not an infestation of rats.
But I didn't know if rats, period, suck.
You know, in your environment, or I've come to appreciate and realize that things that I previously thought were bad in a permaculture ecosystem are actually good, so that's where I'm trying to wonder, do I let nature be nature?
I have a rat-eating dog, by the way.
My dog will capture and gobble rats because she thinks they're bunnies.
She's a bunny gobbler, and now she's getting rats.
Maybe I could loan her to you.
Yeah, I would say this.
If they're not causing any real problems, I wouldn't have any problem with them at all.
Generally, I would say if the rats become an infestation, we probably have some cats move in.
Okay.
Cats will follow.
There's, you know, there's feral cats.
I'm sure you see feral cats from time to time.
Sure.
And if you have a rat issue, feral cats will move in and handle it.
Nature's a pretty, you know, there's a lot of communication out there.
There really is.
There's a lot of people on the phone and Netflix and the radio out there, you know.
But Joel...
They're communicating.
That's good information.
Just jokes aside here, but Todd has like a pet raccoon that he really, you know, a very friendly family of raccoons that's in his backyard.
And I tease him about it because me having chickens and living in the country.
All I know, raccoons are chicken shredding terminators.
But for Todd, because he doesn't have chickens, the raccoons are super friendly and eat out of his hand and everything.
I mean, we love that about what you're doing, Todd.
It's just, if you had chickens, you would probably see a different side.
Yeah, probably.
Todd, all I can say is, far be it from me, look, kind of quasi-domesticating a wild animal is always a cool thing.
When I was in Australia, once I met a lady who had quasi-domesticated a wombat.
And she was feeding it carrots.
And we went over to her house and come see the wombat.
Every evening that wombat would waddle up and get his carrots.
And I just was able to reach out and nobody was able to touch a wombat.
And it was really cool.
So I get the emotional, kind of spiritual, kind of cool thing of quasi-domesticating a wild animal.
But if you do, Todd, decide to raise chickens, Make sure that you have a Imagine All Line, you know, impregnable...
Or those chickens will be raccoon dinner, let me tell you.
Well, I would have to take out my HOA board of directors first to be able to have backyard chickens.
So I think the raccoons will get a pass.
Remember, raccoons have opposable thumbs and they carry Leatherman tools to loosen bolts and screws and things.
They can open anything.
Very smart.
Raccoons are very smart.
They sure are.
All right.
Well, Jill, this has been a real pleasure.
I just want to go out your website again.
Polyface, F-A-C-E, polyfacefarms.com is the website.
And to those of you watching, you can purchase his products here, some of the products, but also learn from him.
Here's some of the books and you can learn more about the farm there on the website.
Or you can even become a, where is it?
You can join, you can have seminars, events, reservations.
You can be an apprentice.
So a lot of activities there.
Joel, anything else you want to add before we wrap this up?
No, you've been delightful to be with.
And all I'll say is that the...
When I encourage people, I want to tell you that your decisions matter.
And if you don't like the world we're in right now, the world we're in right now is a physical manifestation of the cumulative decisions that have been made throughout history.
And the world we have in 40 years that your grandchildren will inherit will also be the world that's a manifestation of the decisions that we make between now and 40 years from now.
So if we want to see a different outcome, a different world, a different situation, Don't underestimate the power of one little decision made one time, multiplied over thousands and thousands of people that are starting to think differently, act differently, and make decisions differently to change our world to a better place.
That's a mic drop.
Yeah, I just felt dropped, too, because I'm Mike.
But that was beautifully stated.
Thank you, Joel, for your time today.
Just wonderful what you're doing, and we appreciate you.
And I think human civilization, to be sustainable, is going to have to adopt the kinds of things that you're sharing with us here today.
So thank you for your time.
Thank you.
Thanks for having me.
Joel, expect a nice order this weekend.
I'm going to polyfacefarms.com and I'm getting me some good beef shipped in, baby.
No kidding.
Great.
We'll look forward to seeing it.
All right.
Thank you, Joel.
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Alright, welcome back, folks.
This is the After Party.
So, Todd, as you know, look, I'm always blown away by our guests, but today, especially so.
Joel, you know, the wisdom, just the practical hands-on wisdom from this man.
This is revolutionary for civilization.
Yeah, it really is.
We need to adopt what he's doing.
He just needs to be in charge.
Can we skip the elections and just anoint him?
Well, put it at the head of the USDA. That's like, have RFK run HHS, which actually oversees the USDA. But yeah, let's put...
Perfect.
Perfect.
Right.
Put RFK, HHS to run the FDA and the CDC and the NIH and then have Joel run USDA. How about that?
Wouldn't that be great?
Yeah.
We can only hope.
But yeah, the wisdom and the years and the practicality and the fact that he's done it and figured all of this stuff out.
I mean, my goodness.
It's just like I, when I was doing my research, I had acreage envy, Mike.
Yeah.
Because he has so much, and that's why I came up with the question about how do we actually benefit those of us who don't have this massive amount of acreage.
You said you have acreage envy.
I have elevation envy because he's got this elevation difference that is phenomenal.
That's a gift to have, what did he say, 160 feet high ponds.
So without using pumps, he can have 70 PSI water pressure irrigation in the lowlands.
The value of that, you can't even put a value on that.
No, you can't.
And what was the range?
A thousand?
Yeah, he said he's got like a thousand feet difference because he's got part of a mountain range and then he's got the lowlands.
Yeah, it's fascinating.
That's a blessing.
I'm really intrigued about his weekend retreats or whatever.
I might research that.
That would be something that would be pretty cool.
You have to know it's beautiful up in that area.
So if you went like in the autumn when the leaves are changing, I bet that's just stunning.
Yeah, and remember when he mentioned, he was talking about Audubon, and back in the early 19th century, the sky would be filled with so many ducks and birds and geese that it could blot out the sun.
Do you realize how much has been destroyed on this continent from what it was?
The early pioneers, the reason they were trappers and whatever, is because Because every time you turn around a corner in the forest, there's another beaver, there's another raccoon.
There were birds and wildlife everywhere.
Yeah, and why do you think the indigenous population moved around in tents?
Seriously, because they followed the herds, they followed the food, you know, and that all stopped, Mike, when the Golden Arches stopped moving, you know, when they became these buildings on every corner to where you didn't have to move to get your food, you had to drive.
Well, I want to mention, too, although this is going to turn a little bit dark, but, you know, the war against the Native Americans included what we would call a holodomor, which was the deliberate shooting and wiping out of the bison because it was the food source for the Native Americans.
Really?
Absolutely.
Huh.
Absolutely.
Yeah, well, and you know, the term Holodomor comes from, under Stalin, the Soviet Union deliberately weaponized a famine in order to kill off millions of Ukrainians in 1932 and 1933 by starving them to death because they wanted to separate from the Soviet Union at that time.
And so the state just said, well, we're going to starve you to death.
And you know who they starved to death the most?
It was the rural Ukrainians, the farmers, who wanted to separate.
Well, in the history of the United States of America, the Native American Indians were subjected to engineered famine and starvation.
And that was done by the settlers who wanted to displace them, to push them, so they could take their land, which, by the way, I don't mean to make this political, but right now today, Israel is committing the same thing against the Palestinians in Gaza, depriving them of food on purpose in order to displace them.
So this method, I mean, those are three examples right there in history where famine has been weaponized in order to conquer people or push them out.
What a horrible weapon, too.
I mean, it's just inverted.
Yeah, I mean, to starve people to death on purpose?
Right.
You know, that's really evil.
Well, on to a more positive note, I do want to just share something with everybody.
I need to get my phone out here.
And if people go to YouTube, there's a gentleman named Matt Powers.
Regenitive soil something.
But anyway, I found he did a whole commentary on Joel, and he was invited into Joel's entire ecosystem, and it's called Permaculture Key Takeaways, Polyface Farm and Joel Salatin.
And I would say if anybody just wanted to go...
Put some visuals with what we discussed today.
That's a really good video.
It's, you know, it's not very long, but you'll be able to visually see what Joel's talking about, about how he moves the animals around.
And it was just very, very cool.
It might save you a trip to...
Well, I'm really glad you mentioned that, because we didn't even use the word permaculture during the entire conversation.
We didn't have to.
It's like, this should be agriculture.
Like, just regular agriculture should be this.
Because I would say, like, the way that modern agriculture is actually pursued, it's more like toxiculture.
Yes.
You know?
Like, it doesn't even deserve the name agriculture.
Yeah, yeah.
It's a death cult of the food supply or something.
Now, you know, if you see something on TikTok, it must be true, Mike, but I'm going to tell you, I did see something.
Somebody sent me something on TikTok that some of the steaks that we get are manufactured and they're putting like fake fat in steaks.
Have you heard about that?
Yeah, I've heard of them.
I mean, I don't know if it's true or not, but if it is, people out there in control, shame on you.
Don't mess with our beef.
That's why Polyface Farms, what is it?
polyfacefarms.com.
That's where I'm going to get my meat from now on, guys.
I'm not going to have, you know, induced meat with chemicals just to make it look like fat.
I just put in the freezer a quarter cow, by the way, because I know ranchers locally in Texas, and every once in a while they...
They butcher a cow that's unvaccinated, no GMOs in the feed, they've just been out in the fields.
So maybe about once a year, whatever, I'll take part in that, or an eighth of a cow, or whatever.
I don't actually eat a ton of meat, but I do eat meat.
I think we need a certain amount of meat in our diet in order to be healthy.
And the saturated fats, I think, are actually good for us.
Yes.
It's not toxic.
I mean, think about, you know, the toxic food industry wants you to switch over to all these toxic seed oils and stop eating real food, you know?
But when you do that, you end up with heart disease and cancer and diabetes and everything, so forget that.
But I have a source, you know, to buy cows or, you know, parts of cows locally.
And the advantage is then I can also buy the bones.
And they sell me the bones for only like, I don't know, $4.50 a pound, I think, for my dogs.
So my dogs get bones and the bone marrow.
And then I get the cuts of the beef and the steaks and what have you.
I think it's a great...
What are the rules with giving dogs bones so that they...
Like I had one schnauzer when I was young who he ended up getting into our chicken and ended up having one caught in his esophagus.
It was horrible.
What's the rules there?
Well, chicken bones can be more troublesome, that's for sure, but cow bones, usually they're quite large, and as long as they're raw, not cooked, then they don't tend to shatter.
Like, cooked bones can splinter more easily.
And chicken bones are hollow because they're birds, and so chicken bones can splinter very easily, but cow bones are more solid, although bones are never entirely solid.
They're actually living, porous systems.
Sure.
But cow bones are big.
We're talking like knuckles, you know, like big chunks.
And the idea is you want to keep your dog busy for a while, too.
Like, give him a couple-hour homework assignment here.
Devour this knuckle, you know?
Instead of chasing rats all day...
Bunnies.
You have a bunny grab...
grubbler?
What do you call it?
Gobbler.
Gobbler.
Yeah, bunny gobbler.
Bunny gobbler.
So he literally goes out on your farm and finds bunnies and gobbles them.
Oh, she does.
She does.
She finds bunnies that almost, like, out of her mouth, the bunny will be like this.
Like, the head and the front feet are over here, and then the back feet are over here.
And...
And I'll say, I'll scream at her, oh my god!
And she'll go, and she swallows it.
She swallows the bunny whole.
Indigestion, Mike?
No, no problems.
This dog is a blue healer.
She's the fastest eating dog I've ever seen.
She must have like throat dilation superpowers or something because she can swallow whole bunnies.
She's like a boa constrictor.
Yeah, she is.
And a cow that has like four stomachs, five stomachs, however many stomachs they have.
It's really incredible.
But anyway, just, you know, weird food stories.
But the bottom line is, you know, all of us need a source to get clean food and real food.
Yeah.
And most people end up going to the grocery store, which can provide some healthy food items, but more and more the food supply in the grocery store is increasingly contaminated.
It's increasingly factory foods, you know, Tyson foods, and Tyson's moving into the cricket factories.
So how much you want to bet they're going to have like cricket protein powder in That they will come up with a new name.
They won't even call it crickets.
And most people won't know they're going to be buying chicken nuggets that are 30% cricket powder or something.
They won't even know it.
And you won't even know it.
Yeah.
You know, I had to go into Walmart because I was out of corn feed and I just needed something.
So I went in and I looked around and...
It just almost made me vibrate because as I looked around, it just was everything was diabetes inducing.
I mean, like when you walk in and it just welcomes you with nothing but crap food, Mike.
And you know how Walmart works, how they negotiate with their vendors.
I do from a different life is the vendors end up figuring ways to still be able to make money, but it's by lowering quality and costs.
Right.
Cutting corners, cutting quantities, etc.
So, I don't...
You know that one guy who made that documentary to where he ate McDonald's for 30 days and it just did horrible things to him?
Yeah, and I think he just died, by the way.
I think he did too.
Yeah.
And I wonder if somebody who always ate healthy, went to organic food stores or whatever, if they just ate from Walmart for 30 days, I wonder if it would do the same thing.
And I'm dead serious.
It's just crap food.
But also, giving credit to Walmart, they do also have organic produce.
Is it really, though?
That's where I get suspicious.
No, look, let me say something in defense of Walmart's supply chain, if you don't mind.
I mean, it seems weird.
I'm not a fan of Walmart, but we want to be honest about this.
There's two things I know about Walmart.
The certified organic food that they have is legit organic, yes.
And secondly, and I know this because I have a food science lab, and I've had experts in my lab who have been in Walmart's lab.
And Walmart has a massive mass spec laboratory.
Walmart is one of the few retailers in the world that tests all of their products for lead.
And including, I don't know if you know this, but children's shirts, when they have red ink on them, or cups that have red ink, a lot of times that red ink is heavily laced with lead.
And Walmart has a program where they take everything that they're going to sell and they dissolve it in nitric acid or hydrochloric acid, whatever, and then they test it for lead and that way they know they're never going to get sued for lead exposure.
the safety of their products.
Now, again, I only know this because we have a food lab.
We do this for all our food products, lead, cadmium, mercury.
But Walmart does it for bicycles and shirts and shoes for children.
Okay.
They don't want children exposed to lead.
So you've got to give them credit for doing that.
I stand down.
I anticipated it was the alternative to where they were just in it for the buck, and the lower the prices, the lower the quality.
So I'm happy to be wrong on that, Mike.
Well, I'm not saying that everything at Walmart is the highest quality product, but what I'm saying is you can know with confidence you're not going to have lead exposure from Walmart.
Well, I just like the fact knowing that their organic food is certified organic.
Yeah, that's legit.
But I do want to mention, you know, the USDA organic program does not require testing for lead itself.
So if you're a farmer and you're certified organic, all it means is you're not allowed to use synthetic pesticides, herbicides, and so on in the production of the food.
The organic certification does not cover the final product.
The final product could have glyphosate in it if it drifted over from a neighboring field.
Sure, right.
And you don't have to test it for glyphosate or pesticides or lead or mercury.
Right.
So that's why we test everything additionally, and Walmart does, because the USDA program only guarantees a process, not an end result.
And The FDA screwed with your toothpaste.
That really ticks me off because I need a reorder.
Are you out?
Are you out of our toothpaste?
I have eight containers still left, but those eight, my wife loves it too.
I'm just getting sad, Mike.
I just know that there's going to be a day and I'm going to have to say, I have to go back to the other stuff.
Todd, I've got good news for you.
Yesterday I just tried a sample of a new in-house formulation that we're creating for toothpaste.
Okay!
Now we're cooking with gas!
Yeah, we're doing our own formulation.
We're going to be manufacturing our own toothpaste in-house.
It's not the same.
It's not exactly the same.
Okay.
It's very, very good, but slightly different.
For example, we put a lot more anise and a lot more cinnamon oil in it, so it's a little spicier.
Okay.
And the texture feels just a little bit different, and I asked them to reduce the suds factor, because you may notice that the toothpaste we had before was pretty high suds, like it would foam up a lot.
You noticed that?
I never noticed that, but all I noticed is my teeth literally have never felt so clean, and when I went for my six-month checkup, I think I shared on a prior show that they were impressed.
They wanted to know what I was doing differently.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
Well, the sudsing factor comes from coconut oil.
There's a coconut oil extract that provides that.
I just asked them to reduce it a little bit.
That's all.
Okay.
Anyway, we will get you some new toothpaste.
I'm excited.
Thank you, Mike.
Thank you.
I can pull myself out of the throes of depression.
Yeah, and of course, it's fluoride-free.
Oh, did you see the breaking news that the Fluoride Action Network won that major court case?
It just happened.
It's been seven years in the making.
No.
The court ordered...
The EPA must now regulate fluoride in the water, taking into account the risk factor of fluoride lowering IQs of children.
In other words, they can no longer just dump fluoride into the water supply everywhere across the nation, which is a way to get rid of chemical waste products, by the way, because fluoride comes with all these other waste products.
They just call it fluoride.
They dump it in the water.
They just poison everybody.
Those days are coming to an end.
Major victory.
Wow.
Wow.
The attorney, I think, is Michael Conant, I think is his name.
Can we get him on?
Yeah, we're going to have him on.
Good.
Good.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
Oh, I love hearing that.
The worm may be turning, Mike.
Well, the fluoride is coming out of the water, at least at the higher levels.
But you know what I say, Todd?
Anybody drinking tap water needs to have their head examined anyway.
Yeah, no kidding.
No kidding.
It's like, what?
You trust, like, government-piped water?
Are you kidding me?
It's so gross.
There's a reason why water is more expensive than a gallon, good water, than a gallon of gasoline, because it doesn't kill you.
I almost would rather drink a gallon of gasoline.
So, Mike, I just want to know, and this was not set up, everyone, but I just want people to know about it, please.
But can you give us the URL to your church?
Oh, wow.
Yeah, thank you for that.
Actually, I've got something to mention to you about the church.
So, yeah, I'm in the process of launching a new church.
It's called Abundance.Church.
And I've got now 60 sermons published about foods and nutrition and also incoming comet impacts mentioned in the book of Revelation, which is freaking people out.
Once you see that, you can't unsee it.
But you know, Todd, something really interesting As we're forming our church and we're going through the process of the documentation and opening bank accounts and so on, we got back the non-profit federal tax ID for the church that's necessary to open the bank accounts.
And we're in the process of opening bank accounts.
Guess what designation the church has?
Tell me.
575E. Wow.
Yes.
It came back, 575E. Hey Mike, you know what my website is?
Tell me.
My575E.com Tell us about it.
Tell us about it.
Because I was like, wow, this is Todd's work.
It's a powerful...
Yeah, it's a powerful designation.
It is a powerful designation.
And I have to tell you, since we've been talking about the new website, my575e.com, Mike, there has been no less than a dozen new UNA operators who have come from this show.
And I will tell you what I love most is, you know, we always have PC and NPC talk.
There's not one NPC in the lot of them.
These people are just...
Intellectually curious.
They are internally decentralized believers that anything that we can do to get out from underneath centralized control their game.
And it's just been a real joy to meet Our viewers, because when people go through the process, they either have questions or they get their UNA, and then I invite them into our private telegram group called UNA Biz, and they meet everybody, all these other like-minded people, and then we war game.
And it's so cool because you know, because you just opened up a bank account with your 575E, which that's kind of the part to where you get a little bit nervous and stuff.
But once you do that, then your job is done.
You just enjoy this entity for the rest of your life and all of the tax advantages that come with it and property advantage.
Let me give out your website again.
My five, seven, five e.com.
That's your site here.
We're showing it on screen and people can go there and just click the button and you can you can learn about that structure.
But but back to my church, what's really interesting to me is some people know that some people don't.
But under published IRS code and federal law, a church does not have to file a federal tax return and a church is not taxed for church related income.
Now, if a church goes out and, let's say, buys an oil field and then has oil revenue that's unrelated to the church, then, yeah, the church would file a tax return on that and would pay...
Regular income tax on that, but for normal church business and church functions, churches are not taxed.
And in addition, the 508C1A designation of the IRS tax code says that not only do churches not file tax returns, churches are not responsible for filing any origination documents with the federal government.
And on top of that, the government cannot request an audit of the church's finances.
And the church is a 575E. Yep.
And just interesting that 575E, the E means exempt.
And that transports over to the entity that I help people acquire.
Same rules exist.
It's a little more accessible because you do not have to publish 100 sermons to get the designation.
Yeah, you know, launching a church is not a small deal.
No, not at all.
But I admire what you've been doing with yours and the content.
It's amazing.
And when you say you have 60 that you've recorded, that tells me, because weren't you on track to where the last one was going to be around the time of election?
Are we getting that close?
We are right around 40 days to the election.
Yeah.
Gosh!
I think I'll have my 100th sermon published maybe the day before or two days before the election.
Yeah.
That is mind-numbing that it's coming up this quickly.
It is mind-blowing.
But, hey, let me mention that the church...
The church is called the Church of Natural Abundance, and my church focuses actually on foods and superfoods and the molecules that are in foods that are mentioned in the Bible specifically.
But beyond that, it's the idea that God creates amazing medicine in foods.
Now, interestingly, I haven't yet covered meat before.
Even though throughout the Bible people are eating lamb, you know, people are eating sheep and what have you.
But I haven't focused on meat, I just focus on plants.
Because that's a very rich world of phytonutrients and phytonutrients.
Sure it is.
But, you know, just related to our guest today, In biblical times, people were eating food that was far more nutritious than the shadow food of what our modern world gets.
And so mankind likes to brag about all this progress, like we're so advanced and now we have factories that can make this and that.
No, you're eating a shadow of the food that Moses ate.
Yes, that's right.
You know, they had better food thousands of years ago than what you have today.
They did.
And I don't believe in the Old Testament, at least, that there is a book of McDonald's.
But when you do start covering meat, Mike, I just have to direct you a little bit, okay?
The Old Testament hammers.
Pork.
Okay?
You don't eat it.
God said don't eat it.
But then you have to, in the New Testament, to counterbalance that, after Jesus Christ appeared and became our Savior, he also saved bacon.
Because go to the Apostle Paul and look on how he preaches about Pork.
Post-Jesus.
And he'll make everybody feel a little better.
We're not going to hell for consuming bacon.
Because bacon is its own food group, Mike.
Well, yeah, that's what Paul, that's what I love about some of Paul's letters, is that he said, you are free from the old restrictions.
Welcome to the new world of the Christ world, where he says you can eat all of God's foods as long as you give blessing to God.
So bacon is totally okay with Jesus.
And bacon makes everything taste better.
Yes.
It does.
Bacon for Jesus.
That's my next bumper sticker.
Yeah, no, it's true.
I think even one of the letters that Paul wrote, I think, in 1 Corinthians, he even said, if I'm remembering correctly, he even said that The animals that are sacrificed to the Roman gods and the other gods, the non-Christian gods, if you want to eat those animals, that's okay too, as long as you give thanks to God, and you don't want to waste the food.
Right.
So, no, I don't have any animals that have been sacrificed to the Roman gods, but But if I did, I wouldn't be afraid, you know, to eat the meat of those animals, not that there's any Roman temples around.
Yeah, you don't have to worry about being crucified for bacon.
No, no.
Maybe soy bacon.
You could be crucified for eating the soy bacon.
Yes, and should be.
The fake bacon, the shadow bacon.
And should be.
See, everybody?
We're almost done.
We're in the latter part of the after party, and we've totally derailed this wonderful Joel Salatin interview.
Sorry, Joel.
We love you.
Sorry, Joel.
We always get off track here.
This is what happens during the happy hour of the show.
But anyway, look, this is all related.
It is.
I think God wants humanity to be able to keep more of what they earn.
I do too.
I do too.
You know, it says give unto Caesar, but there's a difference between, I have to say this, tax evasion and tax avoidance.
Tax evasion, bad.
Tax avoidance, good.
And tax avoidance is lawfully keeping more of what you earn because there are ways out there to be able to do it that are accessible to you and me.
And that I found, Mike, with my consultations and helping people with these is the biggest thing.
People are so under the spell that they can't fathom that they can actually have so many tax advantages and not be doing something wrong.
It's so great to help break their spell.
Let me also mention, I'm quite certain that under the structure that you are sharing with people, the 575E, that it can hold assets like gold.
And show my screen, if you would, to my producers.
Gold today, $2,673.
Gold briefly crossed $2,700 in the gold futures, by the way.
And here's what's amazing.
Did you know, friends, that if you hold gold, and as gold is going up in value, that you legally do not owe any tax whatsoever on that gold until, even under IRS rules, until you sell it or realize the gain in $2 or something else.
But...
If you hold gold and it's just going up and up and up and you're gaining dollar value in the gold, no matter where you have that gold, buried in the backyard, in a vault or whatever, or held by a 575E, that is not a taxable event just because gold is going up in value.
No, that would be called an unrealized gain.
And if people don't get their voting right, that could be part of our future.
Unrealized gains could be part of our future, and that's why we have to be paying attention, Mike.
There is one party that wants to tax unrealized gains.
Yes, certain cackling parties.
Jeez.
But even that, I would tell people that when you protect your assets in a 575E contract, We're good to go.
Of those assets that are in your UNA. And there's just amazing protections, as you know, Mike, because you studied it very long and hard before your church.
And the law has just stood the test of time for over 50 years.
Very powerful.
That's really extraordinary.
I also want to bring in, since we're mentioning gold and silver, if you don't mind, gold is skyrocketing right now, and I want to bring in...
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There you go.
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Nice.
Because I keep giving these away.
When people come in the studio, I give them...
I'm giving them stacks of gold now.
That's great.
It's like, hey, spread the joy.
You know, everybody loves gold.
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And then one more thing that we've got that's coming up, and I think you will want to see this.
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It's called Financial Survival.
And we've interviewed Andy Sheckman.
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We've interviewed some other leaders there.
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But you can watch it for free.
That's at brightu.com.
Hey, Mike, do you know we've been at this, I venture to guess we're probably going to be approaching a year and a half soon, but do you know when we first started doing this together, gold was just over $1,900, I believe.
Is that right?
Because I remember I had just acquired it.
So, wow, from $1,900 to $2,700 nearly.
Yeah.
For what, 15 months, 18 months?
Yeah.
Well, that obliterates the argument that people, I've heard people say, I don't want to buy gold because I want my money to work for me.
So they put it in stocks or something.
I'm like, have you done the math on this?
Because if you just put it in gold, it outperforms the stock market.
And some take self-custody, and gosh darn it, Mike, if I didn't go through a little bit of Alzheimer's experience, I forgot where I buried it.
Did you?
I think you buried it under your food forest.
No, no.
No, I didn't.
I did not put it under that piece of tree.
It's not under the banana tree?
Golden bananas?
Hey, these bananas taste like gold.
What's going on?
You eat them, you get gold teeth.
That's where you don't want a dog that digs.
You can be a rapper with your gold banana teeth.
Right.
With your gold grill.
Sean Diddley Combs.
Sorry.
Don't go there.
No, he is starring in a new series called Diddler on the Roof, though.
It's a musical number.
Okay.
Okay.
Sorry, Joel.
Sorry.
The longer this goes on, the worse it's going to get.
It's going into full Jeffrey Epstein territory.
Okay.
Is there anything else you want to say before we wrap this up?
No, Mike.
Before we cause more trouble.
I think let's quit while we're ahead.
Yeah, let's quit while our commentary is still legal.
Right, right.
Before it goes into some crazy territory.
Mike, you know, you and I know other people don't know because of when we publish and such, but just because of life, it's been two weeks since you and I have done one of these.
I'm just telling you, it's good to see you whenever we come back, Mike.
Hey, you too.
It's always good to see you.
And also, by the way, on the day we're recording, you're getting hit by a storm in Florida.
I am.
I am.
So are you all good?
Yeah, Tampa, which is where I live, dodged a bullet again.
Seems like we dodged a lot of them, knock on wood.
It's unfortunately going to head up to the curve within Florida, which Tallahassee, I think, is just going to get absolutely hammered, and it's going to go up through Valdosta and Atlanta and such.
And so it's pretty big and pretty nasty.
Well, they named it Hell.
Oh, they did?
Hurricane Hell?
Hellena, or Hell for short.
Right.
I mean, they named the storm Hell.
Well, we did get a couple of outer bands that were really, really nasty.
Wow.
So I couldn't imagine.
And it's 150 miles offshore.
So it's a big boy.
It's a big boy.
Well, I was checking the wind speeds from the NOAA last night, and it said that there will be over 100 mile an hour wind speeds on the coast.
Yep.
Yep.
Can you imagine?
I can.
Plus with rain in it, you know, like highly dense, humid water.
What people don't realize, and I've lived through it, is, and this is why I got a full house generator, is when your power goes out and you have those hundred mile winds hammering you and the rain is literally blowing sideways.
Yeah.
When you do not have air conditioning in late August, early September, it's not as simple as saying, hey, let's get some circulation here.
Let's open the windows because that rain is coming at 90 degree angle to your house.
So it is literally a sauna for days.
Oh, it's horrible.
Just horrible.
Never again.
That's why, you know, screw the green cash.
Give me a whole house generator.
So what fuel does your whole house generator use?
Propane.
And you've got enough propane on site?
Yes, I do.
I have plenty.
For a week, for a week and a half.
Okay, cool.
All right.
So you're going to be set.
And also, by the way, in Florida, homes without electricity grow mold.
Right.
Like crazy.
Yeah.
True.
That's bad, also.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
I tell you, remember the hurricane that hit down south down in Naples and such?
I drive to Miami every once in a while, often actually, and I drive down through there.
It decimated that area down there.
Really?
I mean, there are such beautiful areas that to this day just look like dilapidated areas.
Just ghost towns of themselves.
You know, if I lived in Florida, now, granted, this is a very expensive thing to do, but I wonder, why don't more people build concrete homes?
Because they can handle 200 mile an hour winds, you know?
Right, right.
But it is very expensive to do that, but I'm just wondering, I mean, I've seen photos of, like, one concrete home left standing in a neighborhood that's decimated of regular homes.
Yeah, I think you would have to, it depends.
Like, the real estate that is anywhere near the coast is so expensive anyway.
Yeah.
So I'm sure that most people, most people, if they are able to afford, you know, they have the budget to acquire a home, it's probably not going to be one that they tear down and rebuild with concrete, you know, because the homes are really nice anyway.
True.
But they're going to die one day.
Well, yeah, but when the next storm comes through and wipes it out, then is your chance to build a concrete home instead of the regular...
Like, why do people keep building the same wooden stick homes that keep getting blown down?
Good point.
And you know what?
So many insurance companies are leaving the state.
They're just not insuring anything coastal Florida.
So I think that's probably right.
Somebody comes in, they buy a home, they're like, eh, I'm not going to get homeowner's insurance because it's going to get blown away anyway.
Right.
I would build a concrete home and I would have no insurance.
Right.
On purpose.
Because, number one, it can't burn.
Yep.
Right?
Concrete doesn't burn.
No.
Secondly, it's impervious to normal hurricane winds, even a Category 5.
That's right.
And thirdly, if there's an act of war that destroys a concrete home, your insurance isn't going to cover that anyway.
That's true.
Because they don't cover acts of war.
Like, if you get nuked...
That's true.
You know...
You're gone anyway.
Yeah.
Unless, like, see, I'm smart, Mike.
My grandpa in the 70s told me that I needed to practice getting under a school desk to be able to, if there is a nuclear war, and put my hands over my head.
So every one of my rooms in my house has one of those little four, you know, more-legged school desks.
A school desk?
Yeah.
So you can get under it.
Yeah.
Because I'm a prepper.
That's real preparedness right there.
Yeah, it is.
I remember those drills, too.
All right, Todd, we've covered a lot today.
We've had some fun.
This has been great.
I love our guest, and what he teaches is really, really valuable wisdom for humanity.
So, anything else you want to add before we wrap this up?
No, but I can dig the name Polyface.
You know, many faces to run a ranch, that's pretty cool.
That's paying homage to the people that make it all happen.
And I really think that's cool.
I learned something today.
Could it also refer to the faces of the cows?
It could.
Because they have faces.
They do.
Wow, you're breaking my brain now.
No, because, I mean, I've seen cows a lot.
Chickens have faces.
So, could it be that every time you eat a hamburger, you're like, this also had a face.
Yeah, and now he does have a competitor out there on the West Coast.
It's near San Francisco.
It's polybuttsfarms.com.
Oh, that's so bad.
I think we need to be polygon.
There you go.
That's perfect.
You should quit there.
Yeah.
This is going to just deteriorate faster than music executives resigning after the P. Diddy arrest.
So, let's...
Let's do that.
All right.
Anyway, Todd, this has been a great show.
A lot of fun.
Thank you for your time today.
God bless you.
Be safe there with the storm.
And keep us posted.
All right.
Everybody, thank you for watching.
Thank you for continuing to view.
And hang in there with us through all of our craziness.
Cheers.
That's right.
All right, everybody.
Take care.
Thanks for watching today.
Check out all the other episodes at decentralized.tv.
You don't want to miss them.
I'm Mike Adams with BrightTown.com and Todd Pittner, the co-host.
Thank you for joining us today.
Take care.
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