Kristen Meghan and Mike Adams cover America's FAILING military, failing morality...
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So let me ask you, I mean, I love talking with you, Kristen, because we can really go down this rabbit hole, but you may be aware of the recent reports of these large drones, 20-foot drones, that spent 17 days hovering over the Norfolk, Virginia Air Force Base and Naval Base and SEAL Team 6 training facilities, and the Pentagon said, yeah, we know they're up there, we don't know whose they are, and there's nothing we can do to stop them.
And I'm like, what?
17 days, you let China or whoever just hover drones over your most sensitive airspace and just image everything in high definition.
And you didn't do jack to stop it.
Now, if they can just hover...
And by the way, this also happened in Tucson, Arizona, like a year and a half ago, the Davis-Monthan Air Force Base.
Same deal.
They had these drones hovering, imaging everything.
I think like a Tucson police helicopter tried to chase them down.
Couldn't even catch them.
These are high-powered drones.
If they can do that, Kristen, can't they also just drop off, you know, seizing 137 supplies for a terrorist?
A little parachute of a couple kilograms?
Absolutely.
And I had not heard that about New Mexico because that Air Force installation is where...
Oh, Tucson.
Oh, yeah.
Sorry, Arizona.
That...
That Air Force installation is where we have classes called re-tops.
It's where when you become a radiation safety officer in the Air Force, you go there for all your training.
That's where they house.
I can't really tell you a lot of things, but let me tell you, that is a place that you don't want that activity going on.
And you know, when you said that, I just thought about, okay, so our government wants to ban TikTok run by China, but we're just going to let their drones fly over like it's no big deal.
The selective outrage is so angering.
We have reconnaissance teams that should be looking into this stuff.
When did we become so soft and lazy?
It makes me think that...
Does China have something on us?
Does China know something that we don't know to where they're just blackmailing our military and government and allowing these things to happen?
Because I have seen drones shot down Just at my local airport.
So we're allowing these things to fly around Air Force and military installations is completely asinine.
And the fact, I hadn't heard of that, by the way.
So that's even more shocking.
And yes, there are enough drones that we've seen them in movies.
And I think everything that can happen in a movie can happen in real life.
You have drones that do have, look, you can deliver Amazon packages with drones.
So there are disbursement compartments.
They could We're good to go.
And, you know, you're thinking, Air Force, Air Force, we should have force in the air.
But there's no, they're not, like you said, they're not doing anything.
And you're right, if I flew like a $500 drone over that base, I'd go to jail, because they'd have my name tied to the drone, they'd come arrest me, you know, no problem.
But if China flies 20-foot drones for two weeks, they say, ah, nothing we can do.
Maybe this is, maybe this You know, that...
Also, I don't listen to Fox News, so that's probably why I didn't see it.
No.
No, but it's been all over the media.
I know.
But what I'm saying is, this should be a big deal.
Because any time any military or ever government body is going to initiate an attack on another...
Occupy another space.
It didn't just happen on a whim.
They planned for it.
They did recon.
And we're just allowing this to happen.
Yeah, this is the recon.
I think we have the most weakest military that we've ever had in my lifetime under this current administration.
From the China balloons, remember those?
Yep, same deal.
I mean, I've heard crazy stories about things happening in Nevada, but either way...
Go ahead.
I'm sorry to keep interrupting.
It's just so fascinating.
Where would these drones have even taken off from?
You know, if they're not our drones, where are they taking off and where are they landing?
I mean, they must have incredible range and speed and payload capabilities.
They could be carrying nukes.
That's exactly what I was thinking.
When you said, are they able to disperse things, I thought the amount of advanced technology that has to be involved to have that long of power or how are they operated?
I mean, what type of battery are they utilizing?
I mean, there's probably types of drones that we don't even know exist.
I mean, look at the robots that Elon Musk is making.
So China is always ahead of us.
I was thinking the same thing.
Where did these come from?
And, like, are our air traffic controllers not just thinking, like, oh, what is this foreign object?
Like, this should be household news because this should have grounded flights when you see this much FAA interference.
Are you familiar with the fact that Russia has developed nuclear-powered loitering cruise missiles?
That their fuel is nuclear energy?
No, I'm actually not familiar with that.
So they can stay aloft for months, kind of the way an aircraft carrier can stay in the water for 25 years before they have to swap out the fuel rods, right?
Well, these cruise missiles from Russia, one of which crashed a few years ago, it was a lot of news because it was a radiological event when it crashed, obviously.
But...
That's the fuel.
Somehow they've been able to have a very high amperage nuclear to electricity engine on a cruise missile of some kind.
Maybe it's a drone.
Maybe it's got propellers.
I don't know.
But this thing can loiter for months.
And that sounds like something that could have been flying over the Langley Air Force Base.
It could have been Russian drones.
Just cruising around, hey, we're from Russia, and you're not doing jack, you know?
Well, it doesn't seem that our government deems this important enough to educate us, or they don't trust us to have the information.
And I think we have a right to know we, the people, are the owners of this country.
And I think that we have been way too weak.
And now, like, we have a space force.
So we've got, like, come back to Earth and help us, because...
My point is we have to understand what's going on in our airspace, especially when there's so much conflict going on in the world.
Like, what is wrong with this current administration?
What is wrong with these military generals?
Are they too busy taking their transgender hormones?
Because I can't figure it out, but me and my husband are both veterans, and we talk about this quite often.
Like, the stuff that we see now and how weak our military has become, I'm not just talking physically, but I'm talking operationally.
I think we are light speed behind Other countries and what their military capabilities are as far as attacking remotely and I know we think we're the powerhouse of the world.
I think right now, I don't think we are.
We've given so much money, too, that we can't even invest in ourselves.
Maybe that's part of the reason that they couldn't counteract these is because, frankly, we're broke.
I agree with you that our military is really rapidly deteriorating in its ability to project power around the world.
And yes, probably the Air Force and the Navy, they're really busy installing tampon vending machines in men's restrooms.
Rather than doing the things that military should do.
But I think a good example of this is the fact that Yemen Has blockaded the entire U.S. Navy in the Red Sea and involving the Suez Canal.
Yemen alone has effectively nullified Israel's ports, which is dramatically harming Israel's economy and causing investment money to flee, causing investment ratings agencies to downgrade their debt, causing people to flee.
And that's just Yemen.
And Yemen apparently has a hypersonic missile of some kind.
It's like, wait a second.
The U.S. military doesn't have a hypersonic missile.
Now, probably they got it from Iran, and Iran probably got some tech from Russia, but still, Yemen's got hypersonic missiles!
Like, what does that say about the obsolescence of the U.S. military?
I'm sure they can just buy some off Timu at this point.
No, but you're right.
It is scary because we should have equal, if not greater force than other countries because we are supposed to be the free world.
And people are supposed to be intimidated by our military capability.
And I feel like there's a whole different thing happening.
I fully believe this.
It's good we're talking about this because I talk about this with my veteran colleagues quite often.
I do feel like there is stuff going on behind the curtain overseas that we are just not paying attention to.
Everyone is hyper-distracted on all the dumb things instead of our livelihood.
America as we know it.
We should have...
I believe taxation is theft.
It's the coaster in my office.
But I also would rather invest and have my tax dollars...
Extorted from me to ensure we have a robust defense, not the irrational offense, but the defense with the capabilities to counteract these things, to detect these things, to shoot down drones, which in this situation, Mike, what if they didn't shoot them down because they knew of a threat and shooting down a drone carrying cesium or any sort of even strontium or any contaminated materials?
I mean, that's another angle.
Maybe that's why they didn't do anything, but they should be telling us.
Don't try to protect me by not telling me information that can make me better prepared in my home.
Yeah, absolutely.
And I want to ask you in advance, the moment a nuclear weapon goes off in the Middle East, would you come on the show with me?
I don't know if I'll have internet.
No, I would.
If something happens, Mike, you've got my information, I will come on immediately.
Because I'm afraid we could be just weeks away from such an event.
I don't think you're fear-mongering by saying that.
I'm very nervous, and I don't think we've actually reached our October surprise.
And Lord help us, that we can get through these, you know, at least the election to exercise our constitutional rights, but I am very scared.
And I almost don't know about you, but I feel like this has been like a spiritual warfare.
And a part of me feels like, I almost am at a euphoric stage right now where I feel like the tide is turning and people are waking up.
True.
And you and I are less crazy.
True.
But I'm afraid to get comfortable.
And what you're saying is what's kind of sitting in the back of my mind is I'm thinking, nope, we're too comfortable.
Like, we can never give up.
We can't be in homeostasis.
We've got to be on alert because I really do feel like there's a reason Putin endorsed Kamala Harris.
Well, we thought that's a ploy.
You know, it's almost trolling.
At least that's my interpretation.
Exactly, but what I'm saying is it conveys the weakness of Right, right.
I don't think Russia fears the United States at all.
I mean, Russia outproduces all of NATO in terms of military output right now, despite all the sanctions.
You know, Russia's industry is humming.
Germany's industry has collapsed.
You know, the UK has collapsed.
The entire UK military wouldn't even fill a football stadium.
Oh yeah, and I know Russia, I think Russia I know Russia is not necessarily intimidated by us, but I think that certain things keep negative actions at bay.
I'm more worried about the constant conflict being blamed on the US because of the funding, how we love to fund both sides of wars, that the blowback that I feel is coming, and I'm not necessarily saying it's coming from Russia, but I just feel...
It kind of reminds me, and maybe this is a silly analogy, but I won my March Madness a few years ago by picking a Cinderella team.
And I feel like it's going to be someone that we least expect.
And they're going to partner with one of our enemies.
And I'm very nervous.
And that's just a feeling.
That's just an opinion.
I'm not saying this is going to happen.
I don't want it to.
I think we're looking in the wrong places, if that makes sense.
There's a really great meme that I want to show you here that I'm bringing up or attempting to.
If it loads up.
Have you seen the one where there's missiles being launched and it says my tax dollars on this side and then the other side more missiles?
It says somehow also my tax dollars?
Have you seen that meme?
No, I haven't.
But what's funny is so many years ago during the Ron Paul Revolution days, I made t-shirts I designed and I had bombs landing on a father holding his son's hand and it says freedom seeds and it says defending democracy.
Fighting for freedom isn't murdering other people.
But that's so funny because that's how we save democracy, right?
Is bombing other people.
But I think the book Blowback is somewhere up here.
But no, I haven't seen that meme, but I do like my meme more, so you should share that with me.
All right, here's the meme, Kristen.
Here it is.
Do you see that?
My tax dollars and somehow also my tax dollars.
I love it.
It's laughable, but at the same time, it's so true that it's almost nauseating.
Yeah, it is nauseating.
And it's, well, oh, I want to ask you about the THAAD systems, the THAAD, you know, the interceptor system.
Apparently there's about 100 U.S. personnel that have been dispatched with this THAAD system, which I believe has 48 cylinders in it.
It can fire like 48 before it has to be reloaded.
And this is being deployed to Israel, like one THAAD system, 48 shots, while Iran has thousands of ballistic missiles.
I'm like, hmm, what's your take on it, Kristen?
48 versus 5,000.
It's like a toddler soccer team going against an Olympic soccer team.
Like I said, we need to have equal or excessive capabilities to combat what other countries are capable of.
That's what our military should be putting their money towards, not giving loans or gifting money to other countries.
That is very scary.
That is scary to think that we do have defense capabilities, but they're now basically Absolute.
Yes.
Or we're handicapping ourselves.
And that, to me, is inexcusable.
Like, knowing how the military...
I left in 2010.
And I knew what we were capable of then.
Some things I can't even tell you.
Because I was...
My deployment team was an NNBC team.
Medical and nuclear, biological, counter-chemical warfare.
So I knew things I can't say here.
And I knew what we could do, which allowed me to sleep at night.
Not so much now, especially knowing that.
And I just, I'm kind of shocked by it.
Okay, Chris, let me ask you a morality question.
And given the way you're talking here and your background in the Air Force, you may or may not agree with what I'm saying, but this is an open discussion.
So let me ask you, does America anymore even have the right to To project dominant power around the world, given that America argues that we are the free nation, that we don't have political prisoners, that we don't fund terrorism, that we have honest elections, that we are the good people in the world.
And yet, none of those things are true any longer.
We don't have honest elections.
We do have political prisoners.
We do have organ harvesting by the FDA. We do provide weapons to illegal regimes that are carrying out human rights violations.
We do fund terrorism around the world.
So what about the moral argument in all of this?
What's your take?
When I say what I'm about to say, I'm going to need people to remove their emotions and just hear me clearly.
This is exactly why.
12 years ago when I left the Air Force, I actually said we are the largest terrorist organization in the world, our military.
That's not to disgrace our fallen soldiers.
That's not to disgrace our military members.
But what we are doing is using fear and intimidation as a political tactic.
If you look in Webster's Dictionary, that is terrorism.
We are causing a lot of the problems that is now kicking back towards us.
That's the blowback I keep mentioning.
So I actually agree with what you're saying.
I don't think We are not the alphas anymore.
We have a narcissistic ideology as a country to think that we're just hot stuff.
We've allowed ourselves.
We did this to ourselves.
Not you and I, but other people that weren't aware of what's going on and didn't pay attention.
I love my country.
Don't get me wrong.
I love my country.
I love the military that we're supposed to have.
I just do not like my government.
Again, I know that that comment might offend some people, but you have to understand the context in which I'm saying it.
Like, do you understand where I'm coming from?
Because I don't want to turn any viewers off by saying that, but I say that as a fully disabled veteran who spent nine years on active duty.
No, no, Kristen, we're right there with you.
I love my country.
I love the Constitution.
I fight to defend it every day.
I love what America was founded on and what it's supposed to stand for, and I believe in the rule of law.
But what I'm saying, and I think what you're saying also, is that America, which claims to push a rules-based international order, actually doesn't follow any rules at all.
And there is no order other than you have to obey the orders of the empire.
And the empire is cruel, and it is engaged in terrorism around the world.
I think that's irrefutable at this point.
Absolutely, because we have situations where we're just engaging in, air quote, humanitarian relief because we're destabilizing countries, stealing resources.
Everyone knows about our military guarding poppy seeds.
My husband was one of them, so it's not a conspiracy theory.
We abuse the people that actually volunteer to have the courage to serve their country.
And there are good things our military does.
But like you're saying, and I agree with you, is that we have Geneva Convention violations.
We have war crimes under our presidents over the past 15, 20 years plus.
And I just think we need to kind of look in the mirror and go, how can we be better?
And how can we actually follow the very things that we state that we do?
Because what we're dealing with, we're the bully that is about to get their ass beat.
Excuse my language.
We are the bullies.
And we don't deserve it, Mike.
The people who are good inherent people that just want the best for this country.
But these insane sociopaths in D.C. and the lobbyists and the warmongers and the neocons have done this to us and put us at risk.
I think you're right.
I think the U.S. Empire is a bully on the world stage and also its proxy states like Israel, I would argue, act as bullies in the Middle East.
Also another highly controversial statement in the minds of some people.
I'm right there with you.
But, you know, it's obvious what's going on.
But here's the thing.
In a rational world, the United States would engage on parity terms with other nations and engage in trade.
Like, let's have trade.
We all benefit when there's open and free trade and countries specialize in certain things and the barriers are brought down in terms of imports and exports and so on.
Everybody benefits in trade unless your country has deindustrialized, which is what America has done since NAFTA.
I mean, we're talking about decades of massive deindustrialization.
And as a result of that, America can't compete in manufacturing.
Clearly, we've seen this in the Ukraine-Russia conflict.
America can't make the ammunition that Ukraine needs to fire enough artillery.
America also can't replenish Israel's Iron Dome munitions.
The Iron Dome was overwhelmed in the last attack by Iran, I think October 1st, and it will be again.
We are a nation that no longer produces enough to compete in the world, so instead our nation relies on coercion, threats, bombs, assassinations, color revolutions, CIA operations, and information warfare.
That's where we are, I think.
Yeah, it's so good to hear someone that also gets it.
I know you always do, Mike.
But it is...
I kind of...
I'm a visual person.
I just picture like we're this facade of strength with like giant leaky holes.
And it's exactly what you said.
It's how we've weakened.
Everything is sourced out.
I live in Michigan.
And thanks to, you know, Whitmer, Witchmer, People like Stellantis, like people are leaving all of these manufacturing jobs, all of these government DOD contract jobs.
They want to leave and go elsewhere because of the taxation.
Like we have to incentivize these companies, not punish them.
I don't agree with Trump on that one.
We have to incentivize companies coming back here so they can create a product.
Made by Americans on American soil so we can keep our own assets and our defense products, mechanisms, equipment, everything here.
Because the average dumb American, and I will say that without caring who I offend, the average dumb American has this facade of what our country is capable of doing and what our military is.
But if they really pay attention, I mean, just look at FEMA. They ran out of money because they gave it.
I mean, we are bleeding out of every orifice of our body monetarily, and we can't keep printing more.
You know what I'm saying?
Well, and BRICS currencies are going to take over the world.
BRICS. It's so clear.
I mean, you're right, Kristen.
We can't keep printing money forever because no one will buy the debt soon.
Why would they?
When the settlement among the countries that are actually producing things, like India, like Turkey, like Russia, like China, they're going to trade with each other in BRICS currencies.
They're not going to need dollars.
They're already trading mostly without the dollar.
The dollar debt is mostly being purchased by the Federal Reserve itself, so it's a snake eating its own tail.
And we're going to end up in a hyperinflationary collapse of the currency.
It's very clear.
Yeah, and if our country goes on with a digital currency that's regulated by the government like that, you know, people say, I'm not going to comply.
Well, if you're, like, I'm a veteran, I get VA disability compensation for my injuries.
That will force me to need to do it unless I forfeit that money.
You're someone on Social Security, retired or disabled.
You're a government employee, which I don't think people realize how many state and federal employees are in this country.
They are, like, more than one-third of our workforce.
Yeah, that's right.
All these people that think they won't comply if you get any sort of benefit from the government, which, by the way, I don't feel it's a benefit.
I earned it.
But I take my health back any day.
But my point is, they're going to force us to comply or lose our income.
And it reminds me of the vaccine mandates.
I mean, we're just repeating history in very twisted ways.
It's really unfortunate.
All right, so let me ask you then the Trump question.
Assuming Trump wins, and that looks like a likely trajectory, not certain, but likely.
The Kamala campaign is imploding.
If Trump wins...
And he's sworn in, in January, assuming we still have a nation of anything that's functioning by that time.
Trump can't stop these things that you and I are talking about.
Trump can't stop bricks.
Trump can't stop the collapse of the dollar.
Trump can't turn around the military overnight.
Nobody can.
So what is Trump governing over in 2025, in your view?
I feel that all he can do is stop the bleeding.
You know, I'm very libertarian, and I'll tell you if I'm voting for Trump, because what is my other option?
I do have issues with him, but I think when we look at what we're facing, I think Trump would more focus on sheltering our country in place.
We have so much reliance on China and other nations.
We need to be self-sufficient, and that will not happen overnight.
It may not even happen if he wins in his four terms.
We have to focus on incremental wins to protect our assets, to strengthen our military, And in my opinion, Mike, the first thing is, this is a libertarian stance of mine that changed.
We gotta close the border.
We gotta get these people that were not vetted, either vetted or removed.
Because this stuff that we're talking about, I think it's gonna happen within.
And I get you.
The government is never our savior, but I do feel like we are in the wrong direction and he can change the direction.
And hopefully with the unity with Tulsi Gabbard and RFK, Tulsi is more the military minded, maybe he can get actual better advisors this time around.
Again, I want to emphasize that because I'm no Big old Trumper, but I'm not anti-Trump, if that makes sense, because I see the good, and I will never get an apology for Operation Warp Speed, but we got Kennedy, and that's about as big as it's going to get.
But I do think he can right the ship.
And just change the view of how the rest of the world views us because we look very weak.
Our administration is more worried about inclusion and diversity and protecting transgender people than they are about what is going on in our food, our military, the threats, Chinese balloons, drones, you name it, illegals murdering people all over the states.
I mean, especially in Michigan.
So it's already been long-winded there, but you're right.
He's not going to be able to fix everything in day one.
I think it's like putting up a fence saying, don't mess with me.
Like, I'm a different person now.
Well, yeah, I'm glad you mentioned, you said he needs to stop the bleeding.
And I think you're right.
It's almost like a triage incident where you have a patient brought in, in a war zone, and the patient is the United States of America.
And The femoral artery has been severed and this patient's bleeding out, right?
That's what's happening to the dollar, to the economy, to the military.
Can you save the patient?
You know, you need to strap on a tourniquet, crank that sucker.
No, Mike, you need quick clot.
Yeah, quick clot.
Well, for a major artery, does that stuff stop like an artery bleed out?
I don't know.
I've never had to do it, thankfully, but it's supposed to.
And then you need emergency surgery.
You need to stop the bleeding.
Trump's going to be so busy on day one just signing executive orders to nullify all of the Biden executive orders.
It's going to be weeks before he can even come up for air just trying to stop the bleeding, basically.
I agree with you on that point.
But I've spoken with a lot of high-level law enforcement in the state of Texas.
They are willing to round up Well, I shouldn't use the term roundup.
They're willing to arrest from traffic stops illegals and hand them over to the feds if the feds will deport them.
The reason they don't do that now is because the feds won't deport them.
But law enforcement all across the southern states, including Arizona, by the way, they will arrest these illegals and get them out.
Under Trump, we could probably kick millions of illegals out of the country in one year.
Probably it's doable.
But, at the same time, what about all the illegal military-age males who are already here who might go to war against us by attacking infrastructure, if that begins?
Well, Mike, what about potential...
Ill-intended illegals are in our military now because you do not need to be a U.S. citizen to join our military.
Wow, you're right.
And I served with them.
I watched them actually gain citizenship while they're in.
They were from like Brazil and West threat areas.
But my point is you do not need to be a U.S. citizen to be in the military.
And I think a lot of people don't know that actually.
No, I read that because recruiting is so difficult now.
Oh yeah, they've relaxed all the standards.
You can basically be tattooed up to your neck now, and you can be a unicorn or a cat that craps in a litter box.
But basically, that is good.
This is a stance of mine that has changed, and I have no problem with it.
Three, until the harms, because I always think, do what you want, don't harm another person on our property.
These people are harming our way of life.
They are harming our economy.
They are harming safe, peaceful people.
They are harming children.
There's so much harm from unvetted illegal immigrants coming into this country.
And it's such a high rate.
It's also draining all of our resources.
I'm all for correcting this issue, but like you said, I think Trump has it, unless there's heavy issues.
I can see it already happening in Michigan with the mail-in ballots, but that's for another show.
But nothing is going to happen overnight, and people need to remember, you can't think of what Trump can do as an absolutionist.
He's not going to fix everything, and he literally can't.
There are people more powerful than him, but what he can do is put him on notice saying, we are creating a revolution where we're going to get more people in there that are not part of the Uniparty.
And say, screw you.
We're going to take back our country and restore the republic.
And we're going to rescue this republic.
And we're going to do it slowly.
And it's, Mike, it's not going to be even within, I think, Trump's term.
But we can right this ship.
And we can just, we might have to cut off a limb.
But I think we can help.
You know, we were...
We were born for such a time as this.
You and I are meant to be here to fight this and to share the information and educate, engage, and activate people to be prepared and spread the positive information.
Because with problems, we need solutions.
And we've talked about that.
Yeah, but speaking of amputations, there are rumors that Elon Musk would come in and start cutting government.
And I have said publicly, slash every government agency by 90%.
Every single one.
Nine out of ten.
Can you imagine all the surplus money we would have?
Because all those federal employees would be forced to go into the private sector and the private sector would thrive.
And I'm not saying that all government employees are lacked today's goal and just don't put their best forward.
But I worked for the federal government for 12 years.
I'm telling you, a lot of people go there because it takes an act of Congress to fire them.
So they're going to have to work harder.
They're going to have to work better, more efficient.
I'm right there with you.
You know, in my mind, in my heart, I'm a little minarchist, so I'm all about just quit clotting half the federal government, you know, more than half.
Like you said, I don't even know.
I think I would just...
I'll go buy me a box of Costco box wine and celebrate on that day that they just shut all those agencies down.
Obviously, there'd be a transition, but that makes me really excited.
So let me throw this out there.
I'd love to get your reaction on this, but I've thought about this in depth, and I've never talked about this publicly before today.
But I believe the only way Trump can save the republic is to reset it.
And what I mean is that the United States of America would default and we would have to found a new republic of America.
And all of the old obligations and debts would have to be defaulted on.
And I'm not saying that I'm advocating all of this.
I'm just thinking through the steps.
We're talking about a default on all government debt, treasury debt, social security debt, entitlement debt.
Because it's over $220 trillion of obligations that can never be met.
And you can't, even if you slash 90% of the federal government, you're not.
you can't balance the budget because of all these existing obligations.
I think that a crash is coming.
It's all going to go to zero anyway.
The only way to have a nation is through a reset.
And again, I'm not advocating for that.
And I'm not trying to make light of how much pain and suffering and destruction that will cause.
But what are your thoughts when I say that, Kristen?
I've actually thought about that.
And I've thought about it in the context that everyone talks about the Great Reset.
What if we've misunderstood that?
What if the Great Reset is what you're saying?
And I'm also not advocating for it because...
When they say, like, Donald Trump would be our last president.
Like, I put these things into different contexts of what if.
And corporations and people file bankruptcy all the time.
Right.
National bankruptcy.
Right.
There's just...
We are facing unprecedented times, and I think anything is possible.
I've actually thought about that.
We have ruined our country so greatly.
I don't know what amount of virtual plastic surgery can be done to correct it.
Well, yeah, and you can't just keep printing money to pay federal pensions, for example, because the dollars are worth less and less.
So people are going to get wiped out in their pensions and their benefits anyway.
You receive benefits from the government.
I'm sure you've already thought through the fact that those benefits are going to become worthless over time.
Yeah, I've got a backup plan.
I'm sure you do.
But most people haven't thought about it.
They just keep noticing, well, everything's more expensive.
Food's doubled.
Insurance has doubled.
Why is that?
It's because the dollar's collapsing.
That's why.
And it's going to go to zero.
So people's pensions and entitlements, they're going to be done, no matter what, because of the laws of economics.
That's all I'm saying.
This whole system goes to zero.
Buy gold.
Buy gold and silver.
You'll have nothing.
You'll have nothing left.
I don't mean you.
I mean those watching.
Well, I guess I'll just sell pictures of my feet, Mike.
No, I have a multi-layered backup plan in general, not even involving my benefits, but just that the dollar collapses because I'm a consultant.
I work for myself.
I don't know how I would bill people bartering, but we would have to, everyone would be in the same situation.
So it's very reminiscent of COVID. Like we all lived under the COVID tyranny.
We would all be feeling the effects of this.
And, you know, all jokes aside...
I love this conversation because this is actually closer to reality than a hypothetical, because we've never faced the things that we're facing now.
Unprecedented times come for unprecedented solutions.
That's right.
Well, and let me throw this back at you to say, you know, there's going to be a collapse, and really the question is, can it be a controlled, organized collapse?
It's kind of like, okay, if...
I don't know if you're trained as a pilot, but I trained as a pilot before, and if you're in a Cessna and you lose engine power, you lose all thrust.
So what do you do?
You glide it in.
You have a glide path.
You maintain, you know, certain airspeed, and you have enough lift, and you can glide it in, and you can have a controlled crash, and if you're fortunate, you can walk away from that.
The alternative is to pretend like you're still flying and try to gain altitude And then the plane just crashes out of the air because you lose all lift and you lose all control surfaces.
You're done, right?
You're from the Air Force.
You know how this works.
But those are the choices we have as a nation.
Is it a controlled crash or is it a everybody burns type of collapse?
I mean, that's the way I look at it.
Yeah, but I think though, like you said, there's no precedence here to look at as far as in our country.
And I do think though, if we had to do something like that, I do think the Trump administration would bring on the right experts to try to create a solution here.
And I think the first step is the payouts that don't need to be done.
We talked about the government agencies being dissolved.
There are so many government agencies.
I mean, just real quick, sidestep to all this hurricane stuff in FEMA. You have non-profits.
My friend Steve Slepcevic is part of a disaster response team.
There are private corporations that are doing way more than our government.
The government is not the answer, and there's so much government.
They've just become us.
Yeah, I think maybe we do it incrementally.
So, I mean, one thing that could be done, what Trump could do, is bring in somebody and then revalue the dollar in gold.
So re-back the currency with gold.
And you'd have to value gold at somewhere between $25,000 an ounce and $50,000 an ounce.
And then the currency could be at least partially backed by gold, and you could start to regain trust in the currency.
That's a mechanism, but you see what that would do to the price of gold.
And when people realize, hey, why is gold $20,000 an ounce or more, they would start to wonder what's happening to the dollar.
And if you lose enough faith in the dollar, because faith is the fuel of a fake currency, if you lose faith, the whole thing can crater too.
So it has to be very carefully done.
I'm going to grab something really quick because this is who I'd like to confer with.
Ron Paul.
Oh yeah, okay.
With boxing gloves?
This is from the RNC Convention 2012.
In all sorts, I try to inject humor in dark situations, or I would just be falling apart.
But I honestly wonder where Ron Paul stands on this, what he thinks, because nobody has forecasted and thought more into the future than I know of.
In this context than Ron Paul.
And I'm curious what his solution would be for the situation.
Yeah, me too.
I'd love to hear his take on it because he's been right since the 1990s.
Actually, before I came on here, it's cold in Michigan.
I was wearing a sweatshirt today and it says Ron Paul was right.
But I'm sure most of your viewers know who Ron Paul is, but he's just so in tune with what our actions would result in.
And I really think that We've got to look at people who have forecasted this stuff for many years to be part of a multidisciplinary team.
To come up with a plan of action.
Because like I said, maybe it needs to be done in phases if that has to happen.
But I think, again, not getting ahead of ourselves.
The first thing that we have to do is just encourage everyone.
Be registered to vote.
Vote.
I never look at government as a solution, but we are bleeding right now.
And this is why I feel like a full-on statist.
I really do.
It's not about installing someone.
It's making sure somebody else isn't continuing what we've been dealing with.
That's how people need to look at it.
And I just ask that all people unite against all their differences and realize we have the most unified ticket we've ever had in my lifetime.
And you can't be an absolutionist.
Nobody's perfect.
You're not going to agree with everyone on everything.
But, by God, what is your alternative?
And that's what scares the hell out of me.
Yep.
I'm right there with you.
I've said I'm voting for Trump, although I'm really frustrated with him on several issues.
But, again, consider the alternative.
But here's my prediction, and then we'll wrap this up, Kristen.
I'll ask you for your prediction.
My prediction is...
Nobody does anything to solve any problems about the currency and we end up in a catastrophic collapse of the currency that's overnight and a breakup of the United States of America like the Soviet Union in 1991.
And then I would ask you, Kristen, when are you going to move to the Republic of Texas?
That's my prediction of how this goes.
It's not all lovey-dovey, it's actually pretty doom and gloomy, but what's your take?
What's your prediction of where it goes?
I think that there are just so many issues that I don't know what we attack first.
It's got to be like a triage, like we've mentioned.
And I think the root cause of it is our monetary system.
And until our currency is backed to something like gold.
And the Fed, so that we can't print any more money.
And the Fed, so that we aren't having this manipulated system of money that is handicapping us all.
That's right.
That would end U.S. imperialism around the world, too.
But I do believe, I just feel it in my soul, that if Trump does get in, I have issues with him also.
If he does get in, he is not going to be risk-averse like he was the first term.
I think he's got all hands on deck.
They've tried to kill him multiple times.
He wants his legacy.
Call him a narcissist if you want.
He wants his legacy to be that of success.
And somebody needs to, with this team he's building, especially if they do dissolve a bunch of federal agencies, they will realize the surplus in the dollar.
I think inflation will come down.
There is a way to restore our dollar back to how it was intended to be utilized.
As far as moving to Texas, I don't know.
I actually considered it.
I do like that.
I do like that Plano-Frisco area.
Plus, I went down there and did a ton of shows a couple years back with Alex and The Blaze and thought about moving my studio down there and making it full-time.
Because my profession's been hijacked, Mike.
I don't even know.
I can't work for anybody else ever again.
But...
I'm lucky to have friends like you in media and in the liberty world and in the science world.
I know you do a whole lot, but I appreciate you having me on.
And I just want to make sure that people realize we've talked about a lot of scary and negative things.
But again, to be positive, this is why you need to make sure We make sure that this new wave of progressive leftism is not mainstream because that is not what this country is founded on.
I believe we're founded on faith, family, and freedom.
And let's restore the republic.
And let's have the uncomfortable conversations about the realistic consequences.
Because that's how we get people on board.
I love this combination you have of libertarianism and conservatism, at least cultural conservatism.
But I think this is the right mix, actually.
We've got to consider liberty and reducing the size and scope of government.
Too often people say, well, we need to solve these problems.
We need a government agency to solve that problem.
And then, you know, 10 years later, that agency has guns in your faces.
Instead of protecting the environment or whatever they're supposed to do.
No government agency ever solved the problem that they were set up to solve.
Never happened.
Not one of them.
The ATF runs the guns.
I've always used the reference that the government is the very type of person who'd put termites on your front porch and then come with the exterminator and pretend they're the hero.
Our government has a savior complex, but they're the very people creating the problems.
Once you recognize that, it's more freeing.
Absolutely.
And also, by the way, if you and your husband do move to Texas, you are welcome to use this studio because I only use it a few hours a week, so you can actually have a studio.
Sounds good.
I'm serious about that.
You could do that.
Yeah.
I am afraid of the things down there that can kill me, and I'm not talking about the government.
You guys have a lot of creepy critters.
You like scorpions?
No.
You know, when I was in the Air Force, I lived down there for about a year and a half.
What, tarantulas, scorpions, rattlesnakes, those kinds of things?
Yeah.
Lions and tigers in government.
Oh, my.
No, but it just really depends on the direction of Michigan.
It's become the People's Republic of Michigan, and I cannot believe that Whitmer got reelected.
I know how she did.
Oh, my.
Well, I'm sorry that you were cursed with Wretched Whitmer as your governor with all the fake kidnapping and all that.
What a nightmare.
In any case, it's been a great conversation, Kristen.
In fact, this is amazing.
We've got to have you back more frequently.
And unfortunately, the next time we have you back might be talking about fallout because we could be in that situation.
And I don't wish that upon anybody.
Yeah, it's real, but I think we have to just be prepared and stay positive and pray like everything depends on it because, I don't know, Mike, I can just tell you, I have changed as a person so much over the past four years because I never thought we'd be dealing with what we're dealing with now, and I'm 42, and I'd really like to live the rest of my life a lot more positive and have a better future for my children.
I have an 8-year-old and a 20-year-old, and I just...
I want them to know what I grew up in.
I really do.
True.
I miss the world I grew up in as well.
Let me give out your show page.
It's wethepatriotsusa.org.
And then if you click on the show, they're vets and visionaries.
And here's some of the recent episodes and podcasts and so on.
So Keep doing what you're doing, Kristen.
You are welcome here anytime.
Reach out anytime.
We'd love to have you back on to discuss breaking news events.
God bless you.
We're so honored to have you, and you're a great treasure to this nation.
Thank you so much.
Thank you so much, Mike.
Thanks for having me.
Absolutely.
All right.
Have a great day.
And for those of you watching, I hope you enjoyed this interview.
What an amazing conversation.
We're going to post little snippets of this, too, and you can share those snippets everywhere.
Of course, I'm Mike Adams here with brighttown.com.
And like Kristen, I love America.
I love Texas.
I want America to succeed.
But I'm also a realist.
We're going to have to make some very tough choices about where we are, how we got here, and how we fix it.
And nobody likes tough choices, it turns out.
It's going to be a rocky road ahead.
And no, I'm not talking about your favorite ice cream flavor.
I'm talking about wipeout of your assets, things like that.
So stay informed.
Keep watching Brighteon.com and keep checking out Chris and Megan's podcast.
They're Vets and Visionaries at We the Patriots USA. Thank you for watching today.
God bless you all.
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