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Oct. 8, 2024 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams

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Theo from Helios Farms on DECENTRALIZED FOOD production...

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	Welcome to today's episode of Decentralized TV here on Brighteon.com, the free speech video platform.
	I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon, and we are joined, as always, by our co-host Todd Pitner for another amazing show here on DTV. Welcome, Todd.
	Hola, Mike. Good to see you.
	Always good to see you, Mike Adams.
	Hey, it's great to see you too.
	We always have fun with this show.
	And today we've got some really special guests that are like hardcore into food decentralization.
	I love this topic. That's great.
	I have decentralization envy with this guest.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And we're also going to talk about PMAs, private membership associations, and how they can be used to achieve food freedom.
	And the reason this matters so much, folks, is remember that Kamala Harris has proposed price controls on food, which is straight-up communism.
	It will cause widespread...
	Empty shelves at grocery stores, food lines, bread lines, rationing, government controls over what you can purchase at the grocery store.
	So full-blown food communism is coming, or Kamala-nunism is coming if Kamala has her way.
	The opposite side of that is food freedom and food abundance, and our guests today really exemplify that.
	So let's bring them in. We have from Helios Farms, we have Theo, excuse me, And Kira joining us.
	Welcome, both of you, to the show.
	Hello, Mike. It's great to be back.
	You interviewed us a couple of years ago, and we're still here, and we're still making progress.
	It's great to talk with you about our favorite subject, decentralizing the food system, and look forward to this interview.
	Absolutely. And introduce your wife to our audience, please, too?
	Yep. Kira's here.
	Yep. We've got the full screen now.
	Okay, great. Hi, and we're really happy to be back.
	Mike, I've really been enjoying your sermons.
	And all of the stuff that you're doing, you're really keeping up on everything that is going on in the world, but you have a really good ability to see what's coming as well.
	And so we've also been doing that.
	You and I, I think, began getting pretty censored around the same time.
	So I just really applaud your ability and Willingness to jump into the big bad unknown, just following truth.
	Yeah. Thank you so much.
	I appreciate the interviews where sometimes it gets off into areas where you're like, oh, you know, being a little shocked and yet you still put those up.
	Because I think there are people out there that seem to be on the fringes, but they might be in the truth world before we know it.
	Yeah. Your willingness to do that is really cool.
	Well, thank you. And just as a programming note, we don't have a prearrangement with any of our guests about what they're going to say.
	Right, Todd? We don't know.
	Sometimes we are absolutely shocked and stunned.
	Whoa, what was that?
	But that's just the way we roll.
	It's unscripted, you know, no teleprompters, same with you today.
	Yeah, it's true journalism, too.
	Absolutely, let's look at what's in the world people who are attempting to solve these this tyrannical
	Realm that we find ourselves in so I I really appreciate that
	One thing one thing about Mike. I'm just gonna say is he does deliver it in a very attractive way
	so if you do anybody watching if you do have a anybody out there who might be on the fringe of
	Let's call it liberalism who may be looking around saying just doesn't seem right
	You know, if you have him listen to some of Mike's shows, he really makes sense.
	Not in a turbocharged, you know, fearful way.
	It's just, like you say, Theo, good journalism.
	So, Mike, you know, rock on.
	Well, gosh. Thank you all for your compliments.
	I take that to heart.
	But, of course, I don't want to make this show about me, so let's jump into Helios Farms and what it's all about because our audience cares about decentralization of the food supply.
	This creates resilience for any nation to have more people growing food and more channels of distribution, but it's the opposite of what the establishment wants.
	They want to have control over centralized food factories and Now, but something's changed dramatically.
	Let me bring this in. Normally this show's not about politics, but RFK Jr.
	has endorsed President Trump for the election, and it looks like RFK is going to join Trump's administration if Trump is the winner.
	And RFK Jr. would absolutely be on our side here for food, farming, home gardening, decentralization.
	So let's start there, Theo and Kira.
	Again, this show's not about politics, but this is about food right now.
	What are your thoughts on how a Trump-RFK administration could change the food abundance for America?
	Your thoughts. Okay, so RFK Jr.
	is amazing. And I really agree with him on food freedom.
	He's a raw milk drinker.
	He really seems to get behind small farmers.
	I haven't seen him take any issue at all.
	With any of that, I haven't seen him trying to shut small farmers down.
	So I think we have a real chance with RFK Jr.
	in there, along with Thomas Massey.
	So I think that, you know, that's looking good.
	My daughter happens to be running for Congress.
	I kind of don't like her doing that, but as an independent, and she's all about that unapologetically.
	She's a libertarian candidate, actually.
	I'm sorry. Yeah.
	She's a libertarian. Okay.
	Is that something...
	Do you want to just mention her website or her campaign?
	Yeah, I think it's Sonia Agora for Congress.
	I should really know this better.
	I think it's SoniaForOregon.com.
	It might be. I'm so sorry.
	Okay. So...
	How do you spell? S-O-N-J-A. Yeah.
	That's what I thought. Okay.
	S-O-N-J-A for Oregon.com.
	And I'm not getting anything there unless it's the numeral four.
	I don't think it is.
	Oh, now it forwarded to the numeral four.
	Yeah, here it is. S-O-N-J-A for Oregon.com.
	Got it. I mean, the chances are fairly low.
	She's super big on Second Amendment, food and medical rights, really big on it.
	She wants the wars to end, obviously, and have autonomy.
	Anyway, there's a plug for her.
	Well, even if she doesn't have a realistic shot at winning because it's so heavily funded for the parties, but her voice, she can be part of the conversation or the debates, and that counts big time.
	Yeah, but there's a rhino I guess she's running against that.
	Is trying and succeeding in keeping her out of debates.
	Yeah, they really like to control that.
	Okay, so getting back to food and farms.
	Now, your farm is well known for having your own coin of sorts.
	It's a ledger where it's called MooCoin, right?
	Right, so it's Moolah.
	MoolahCoin. MoolahCoin.
	I love it. We say put your moolah where your mouth is, and it's because it's a food-based currency.
	So the value of one coin is tied to a half gallon of What we call single moo milk, which is the raw milk that we produce.
	Perfect. So raw milk is the unit behind mula.
	Raw milk is the milk standard, yeah.
	And then if somebody wants something like cheese or beef or whatever else, then that's how many milk units equivalent, correct?
	Right. It's priced in mula coin.
	Everything on our websites are priced in mula coin.
	We have companies in the area that take our mula coin and redeem it for food for their employees.
	Yeah, so the potential of the currency and the foundation to me seems inspired.
	I mean, I'm writing it, but I don't, you know, I attribute all of this to God.
	And I think that a milk-based currency Well, you know what's interesting, and I'd like Todd to chime in on this, but the new BRICS currency for international settlement is backed by commodities, at least partially, one of those being gold, most prominently.
	But I wouldn't be surprised if there's oil in the mix or maybe even food or something.
	Todd, you want to chime in on the Moola coin concept and why this is a big deal?
	Yeah, that was right at the top.
	First of all, Thea, Kira, welcome to the show.
	It's great having you on.
	And Mike, you know, during my research, I read the following invitation that they have created.
	Join our PMA farm.
	Buy mula coin, our private currency, to gain access to edemic foods produced by our ortho-molecular restorative farms.
	And I was like, wow, that's a lot to unpack there, you know?
	And so I love the concept of the mula coin, and I can visualize it.
	Mike, you know...
	You and I have talked about this endlessly.
	Any kind of cryptocurrency needs to be able to have a use case.
	And the use case of the Moonla coin is food.
	I love that. I think it's great.
	And I would just kind of like to ask the question, can we start with Edenic foods?
	What is that? That was new to me.
	So a lot of The reason that we plunged into farming is because we saw that the pharmaceutical industry had damaged our children in the 80s and 90s.
	And then we were basically enslaved to the wrong thought process and enslaved to the wrong system.
	And so our farm started first with the notion that we would reject everything That was put into place in the last hundred years.
	And we rejected vaccines for animals.
	So basically we say no vaccine, no pharmaceutical products on the farm, no agricultural chemicals on the farm.
	Very few things like we would love to eliminate plastic from the farm.
	But, you know, those kinds of Things are difficult, but in terms of eliminating agricultural chemicals and pharmaceutical chemicals, we succeeded early on in doing that.
	And in doing that, we also are very scientific.
	So what we recognize is that the science changed with the Human Microbiome Project.
	That started in 2007.
	Results were in 2016.
	That changed biology altogether, and it changed the concepts that we should be using in the food system.
	So the problem with the centralization is it's a monolith that doesn't accept change.
	They have agendas.
	They have all these...
	You know, parts of the system that would have to be destroyed, the whole pharmaceutical industry would have to be reduced down to nothing in order to make the change that science, that microbiome science introduced.
	And that is, hey, that health is founded in the microbiome.
	So, if you look at the book of Genesis, for example, God created man after he created
	cattle and so there was manure all around.
	If you've ever been around cows, you know that the first thing they do is start producing
	manure so the soil was teeming with manure.
	God scooped up a handful of dirt and breathed in the breath of life to it and created man.
	Well, microbiome science, the results of the Human Microbiome Project in 2016 revealed that that's the truth.
	Essentially, human bodies are a symbiosis of microbes and those microbes are in the soil around us.
	They're in the animals that we are raising on our farms.
	It's the same spectrum of microbes.
	You keep that balance perfect and you have health because God created health in the Garden of Eden.
	So Edenic foods come out of the right kind of science application.
	You eliminate the chemical applications that destroy the microbiome.
	See, the results of the Human Microbiome Project showed that Really, every pharmaceutical should be retested for safety to the microbiome balance.
	You throw the microbiome balance out of order, you get disease.
	And a great example of that is the seven-way vaccine for cattle, which all cattlemen, you know, just by default inject in their cows.
	But those diseases, those seven diseases are all clostridial diseases.
	So they're caused by clostridial overgrowth in the cows.
	So then if you start digging into that rabbit hole, you find out that, oh, glyphosate is actually patented as an antibiotic, and it mostly kills beneficial bacteria.
	Those beneficial bacteria that it kills, if you're feeding cows Glyphosate-rich feed, then it trims their microbiome.
	So now the beneficial bacteria that normally would keep clostridials under check are gone or they're reduced.
	So now these clostridial diseases can take over.
	So, then they create a vaccine that somehow maybe works or maybe it doesn't, and they say it works like the tetanus vaccine and it actually doesn't do anything.
	So... That all makes perfect sense.
	Let me bring in something that RFK Jr.
	just said that's relevant to all of this.
	In an interview with Dr.
	Phil, RFK Jr. pointed out that three-quarters of the nation is considered medically obese and that the pharmaceutical industries want to have Virtually every American taking these weight loss injections which are based on the reptilian venom peptides from the Gila monster that paralyzes the vagus nerve.
	Now, I did some math on this in my podcast.
	This is hilarious.
	A typical American spends, let's say, $8,000 a year on food, mostly processed junk food that causes disease.
	They would have to spend about $12,000 a year on these injections.
	The so-called weight loss injection drugs that are reptile venom peptides.
	That's about $20,000 a year right there that is expended to stay diseased and eating processed foods and have cancer and heart disease and everything.
	Well, RFK Jr. said if the government even provided free organic meals to the entire nation, three meals a day at, let's say, $50 a day, We're talking about only a little bit over $18,000 a year to feed people organic meals.
	I mean, I'm not saying the government should be in the business of doing this.
	This is a thought experiment. But my point is, it costs less to eat healthy and not be diseased than it costs to eat processed foods and have to treat it with toxic injections.
	That's bad for big pharma profits.
	That's right. Exactly.
	And big ag also.
	Yeah. Right, and don't forget that, you know, when you feed young people in particular, but all people, all this terrible food, and then you're doubling down with all of this, all these pharmaceuticals that are degrading their health overall.
	They've got chronic disease.
	They probably don't have the energy to stand up and fight you.
	So there's a benefit, a sickening, demonic benefit if it's not demonic enough.
	And I want to point out that, Mike, you've been saying a lot.
	What do you call it?
	God's molecules.
	And so that really ties in with the orthomolecular thing that I think that people are not yet aware of what that actually means.
	And Theo can probably explain that better, why we are...
	The Orthomolecular Garden Church.
	Well, let's do that, but let me give out the website first for people.
	Is it pmafarms.com?
	Yes, that maps to our website.
	Alright, so yeah, pmafarms.com forwards you to the private membership association of Helios Farms, which is also this, the Ortho Molecular Garden Church.
	So I'm very interested in hearing about this, as I've been teaching a lot of nutrition-based Bible sermons lately, and so we have a lot in common there.
	But aren't God's molecules amazing?
	I mean, He puts medicine all over the place for us, if we're wise enough to just recognize it.
	But go ahead, May I interrupt real quickly?
	I just want to book in my question about the Edenic foods.
	I'm sorry it went right over my head, but I get it.
	The Garden of Eden? Yes.
	Sorry. A little slow up the on-ramp today, guys.
	No, you got it.
	Actually, I think it was Joel Salatin that used the term Edenic farms, and usually it's capitalized And it is about God's molecules.
	So if you look at vitamin C, which is like a pivotal molecule in orthomolecular science, animals make it.
	One of the things that you don't learn in biology, even if you go to medical school, you don't learn that animals make vitamin C by converting glucose to protein.
	To ascorbate, and the molecule is C6H8O6. Super simple molecule.
	Blood sugar is converted to that molecule by all mammals.
	Humans don't do that conversion.
	We're missing, for some reason, we're missing one of the enzymes.
	So orthomolecular science looks at, basically, it looks at disease as a nutrient deficiency or a mineral deficiency.
	It says that your body's not made up of pharmaceutical chemicals, so no disease is actually a pharmaceutical deficiency.
	It doesn't do any good to put a pharmaceutical in there to heal a disease.
	But nutrient deficiencies cause dis-ease, dis-ease, discomfort.
	And if you replace the nutrients correctly, which is God's design, So discerning God's design is part of what our farm is about.
	And the best way to discern God's design is to get into Scripture and then to also ask God.
	In the Garden of Eden, Adam and Eve ate of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
	Well, good and evil is all knowledge.
	And so they basically were making a choice.
	We want to do it ourselves.
	And in that fall, they turned away from God saying, yeah, we can do it.
	We can be like God.
	And I think what we all need to do on these farms is turn back to God, discern Through prayer, and through working in community, and through touching his creation, what his design was and is.
	And that's where you say, oh, look, our body's made of nutrients.
	You know, animals make vitamin C. Niacin, our gut, converts Foods that we eat into niacin if our microbiome is not damaged.
	So if we turn our children over to the pharmaceutical industry and allow them to inject on the first day of their birth some chemical that damages their gut microbiome, We've shown on our farm that by removing all the pharmaceuticals and discerning God's design, following God's design, you get this health I'm so glad you mentioned that.
	And it's very clear to me as someone who is reading and teaching scripture
	that even going back to the Old Testament, you look at Leviticus and the teachings of
	the purity of the blood and the life of the flesh is found in the blood and the blood is made of
	the things that you are eating and drinking. I believe that there's no question in my mind
	that God himself, he might have commanded Moses that if If pesticides, herbicides, and gender-bender chemicals had existed in that day, Moses would have declared them to be satanic.
	No question about it, right?
	And in the New Testament, if Christ were teaching in a time of pesticides and herbicides and synthetic toxins, there's no question whatsoever that in the letters of Paul, in the teachings of Timothy to the congregations, all throughout the New Testament teachings, Christ would have also taught that purity of blood, purity of flesh, also means avoiding Satan's molecules that are synthetic pesticides, herbicides, all these synthetic polymers,
	all of these things that get into the food supply.
	I mean, I don't claim to speak for God or Christ, just to be clear, but I'm saying it's consistent with their teachings.
	It's incredibly consistent.
	Absolutely. Does anybody disagree with that here, Todd?
	No, I think Jesus would have overturned some pharmaceutical tables, Mike.
	Absolutely. He would have flipped them over with the bankers, yeah.
	And I think he is.
	I think there is an underlying awakening.
	You hear the media represents America in one way, and if you go out and talk Talk to farmers and talk to people.
	Actually, there's a whole different way that's happening.
	And I think that's the fear of the demonic kingdom.
	I tend to look at the Bible as the tale of two kingdoms.
	When Jesus arrived, he said, as soon as he started his ministry, it was like, hey, Repent, which I also translate as like, bro, wake up.
	The kingdom of heaven is here.
	The realm of heaven is here.
	At hand. So to me, at hand means we'll get your hands in there, touch the cows, touch creation, and you find the kingdom of heaven is here.
	But there's also an invading kingdom.
	Jesus said, you den of vipers, you know, and it's like something's going on with this demonic realm is also here in the battle.
	Ultimately, the core battle in the Yes.
	And can I add, even in the Old Testament, God always used food abundance as symbols of prosperity for humanity, right?
	Right. God's saying, look, if you honor my teachings, you will have abundant grapevines and pomegranates and figs and cinnamon and the spices of the aloes and all these amazing things, right? And the living waters, the fountain of waters.
	But if you turn against me, God said, I'll take it all away.
	And he also said, I'll take away your cinnamon, too.
	He's like, you will have no cinnamon if you sin.
	So anyway... And so our question and our motivation and our, it feels like in a way we're running out of time, but it's all in God's time.
	So how do we get this food that we're serving to our, you know, 350 or 400 families here in Oregon, how do we get this out right away?
	So really identical farms.
	We're training the wonderful interns that are ready to go out with our unvaccinated livestock, populating every farm right now.
	So it's a matter of getting from there so that, Mike, you've got, you know, I know you grow and you're doing such an amazing thing with your storable foods.
	Yeah, people should get that, and I mean now.
	But where are they going to get unvaccinated beef?
	That's right. Where are they going to get clean, raw milk?
	They're going to need it.
	They need it now to restore their microbiome.
	So our goal is to work with other farmers and with buying the church, buying more land.
	We don't own this land and we never will.
	Because it's too easy to take away from us and we're not taking it with us anyway.
	Yeah, you're stewards of the land while you're here.
	That's right. That's right.
	So our model is that the church, that Ortho Molecular Garden Church is an underlying organization and the board of trustees are the stewards of the land of this new food system.
	Each PMA farm can be a multi-generational farm, but it runs on top of land that's owned by the church or that the church has like the first option to buy it if they decide they want to move on and not be a farm.
	So part of what Kara and I realized when we started was in response to, you know, the damage to our children that we saw was like, well, decentralizing the food system is the These family units, these kind of tribes, you have a farm, everybody, you have a thousand members of that farm that are engaged.
	It all operates in the church realm, in our case, At least in the private realm, which is constitutional guaranteed.
	So you create a mini jurisdiction that is not pierceable by the public jurisdiction.
	The USDA has no teeth here.
	The ODA has no teeth in our farm because everyone is written under a different contract.
	Right. To get into some practical explanation...
	I'm sorry to interrupt, Theo, but what about the state?
	The state of Oregon has not been friendly to farming freedom.
	You mentioned federal, but what about the state?
	I said ODA as well.
	Okay, I'm sorry. Got it.
	Because we have a solid, separate jurisdiction and everyone...
	Getting food from the farm agrees that all the transactions with the farm are up in that jurisdiction and not in the public jurisdiction.
	The state has no teeth in here, and they don't have any oversight.
	Have they threatened you?
	Have they tried? Oh, yeah.
	Recently, kind of a weak threat.
	Yeah, that we just ignored.
	So you have to agree.
	Number one, you have to take their licenses for them to have Any jurisdiction, and we have none.
	We're not taking any licenses.
	We are member approved.
	And the other thing is you have to agree with them to come out and inspect you.
	You would have to say, come on out, inspect everything.
	I'd be happy to take licenses with you.
	If you don't do that, they really don't have anything to do.
	But if they will try and threaten you, they tried to do that, fines and all this ridiculous stuff,
	well, basically you're not responding because they have nothing to stand on,
	they just act like they do.
	Yes.
	The trade-off, of course, is commerce, public commerce.
	So none of our food goes into commerce.
	None of our meats go into commerce.
	We have built essentially our own commerce system through our delivery network,
	which is to private homes and private refrigerators.
	So this is a private property barrier that can't be pierced by the state
	without them committing crimes. And this is the separation of church and state.
	All of our members believe they should be getting Edenic food that's produced according to God's design.
	And they also approve everything we do.
	They see our butchery.
	They see that we don't use bleach in the butchery specifically because we are preserving the balance of the microbiome.
	And you can taste that in our foods.
	It's really interesting. We take our cream and we put it in a closet at 85 degrees and it becomes cultured cream.
	In 24 hours.
	And it's this super good tasting cream.
	We don't do anything but put it in the closet and the microbiome of the cow and the microbiome of the farm speaks to people through that cream.
	And ultimately they have to realize that's God's design speaking to them.
	And our ministry is about saying, hey, you know what else is God's design?
	Well, the Bible, actually, if you study it, it teaches about how to be happy in this realm that we find ourselves in.
	The contrast to that, in terms of FDA, USDA, state regulators, is they want all food to be dead.
	And it is a culture of death, which is truly satanic.
	So they are totally opposed to living foods, raw foods, enzymes that function, any microbiology whatsoever.
	In fact, you wouldn't believe the pressure that we've been put under, and other people we know,
	that there are demands that we irradiate all of our food.
	Demand it.
	Like, no.
	What are you doing about it?
	Thank you.
	We're saying no.
	Yeah, they demand that you kill everything.
	And then what does that lead to?
	The killing of the customer through degenerative disease.
	I mean, dead food leads to dead people, but it's an industry of death.
	They profit off death.
	I mean, Todd, we've been covering this so many times.
	You see it. It's a death industry.
	Absolutely. My question to you both is, I live here in Tampa, Florida, and I'm really, really intrigued by your church and Dennett Foods, and I'm wanting to know, is there any way possible to where it could be shipped all this way, or do you have to be local?
	You have to be a member and we do ship.
	Yeah, we already ship to Florida.
	Several times. Several times and it arrives frozen.
	We have a little dry ice maker that we pack the box with and we have a really good time.
	Oh my gosh. Afterwards, Mike, please, I want to get the contact info because I'm going to become your customer this weekend.
	Well, and Todd will ask you, will you take Bitcoin for MoolaCoin?
	No. Okay, so I'm really glad you brought that up because I've been thinking about that.
	We have definitely accepted silver for MoolaCoin in the past, so I'm sure we would accept gold.
	I don't know about Bitcoin.
	I'm still sort of back two years ago when you were suspicious of it, Mike.
	And I really appreciate...
	But yeah, and so things do change.
	I am not even set up, even though you did such a good primer on it and said, you guys all need to study this.
	I was like, well, in between butchery, maybe I'll get to that.
	Okay, so you accept gold and silver.
	We do. Yes, that's great.
	It's the best possible place to put your fiat currency.
	It's to buy moolah coin.
	Because it is always redeemable for food that we're making now and in the future.
	Tell us about the ordering process then.
	How would we go about converting our crappy green stuff into wonderful food that we consume?
	Yeah, so you just go to heliosfarms.com in that case, which you can get to through the pmafarms.com And it says buy MoolaCoin on both of those websites.
	You just buy it.
	It's because, let's see, I started...
	Unfortunately, I'm like the web developer for us, and I'm a much better farmer at this stage than I am a web developer.
	Here it is, MoolaCoin. Here's how you can buy it.
	Yeah, there you go. And so you can enter it here, and you don't have to pay.
	The only payment option is...
	Through PayPal, because we deal raw milk, which is contraband.
	Yeah. And so the welcome company said we won't let you use our payment system.
	Right. So anyway, there's more research required for me.
	But basically, you put in an order.
	We send you an invoice.
	You can pay online.
	You can send us a check. And then we convert your dollars to MoolaCoin.
	It goes into your MoolaCount.
	And every month you get a statement from your MoolaCount.
	And then when you place an order at pmafarms.com, it just comes right out of your MoolaCount.
	So this is a central ledger, just to be clear.
	It's not a distributed Bitcoin type of ledger.
	It's like pre-purchasing credit.
	Right. But the beautiful thing about it is this fights food inflation, right?
	Exactly. So you can convert your fiat into food units directly with you, and then no matter what happens to the cost of production because of the cost of inputs rising, well, people know how many units of milk they've got with you.
	And what all foods are available.
	Oh my gosh, I'm so excited to talk about this right now because we're doing so much cheese.
	And so I was thinking that, Mike, this might be a fun thing for you to explore because you're so about prepping.
	But look at, oh, if we lose electricity now.
	I could go on and on about all the things we're going to need to think about, kind of like you do, Mike, but if we lose electricity, what can you still store?
	What can you still make?
	You can make cheese. It's a great way to store fresh milk, right?
	You can make, we're doing a lot of charcuterie, and so we're going to have, you know, pastrami.
	We're experimenting with that now, and it's going so well.
	So we're making kapha.
	And we're making vanchala, and we're making lanza, and all of this stuff is dry cured.
	It doesn't need to be refrigerated.
	Exactly. Wow.
	For like years.
	So is it salt cured then?
	Yes. Yeah. Right.
	No nitrates or nitrites.
	Oh, yeah, absolutely. I would assume so.
	But what is the shelf life of salt cured meat?
	Years. Years? Yes.
	Wow. Wow. And then what about cheese?
	If we buy, is it a round cheese?
	I mean, is it shelf-stable, or what do we have to do with the cheese?
	Well, it's in the process of becoming sharper, let's say, as it's aging.
	So a cheddar cheese would be like, you know, you could take it at three months, pretty mild.
	You go a year and it's pretty sharp and more crumbly.
	But it's going to be really stable around, oh, you know, 50, 50 to 55 degrees, somewhere around there, ideally, even 60 degrees for a long time.
	And these are our traditional preservation.
	Right. It's like, you know, salt pork used to be packed in salt and shipped around everywhere.
	That's how it was delivered.
	So do you refrigerate these?
	Once? Yeah, if you want to slow down the aging process, you refrigerate them.
	Okay, I'm going to send, we'll talk after the show, I'm going to send you silver for cheese.
	Love it. Alright, we'll do a silver cheese.
	We're going to love these cheeses right now.
	Yeah, that's great. So we're excited about that, but of course we have fresh beef, pork, we send those frozen.
	It is all unvaccinated.
	You know, these animals are so clean and you just can't find it.
	You know, our big thing is like, yes, we can get it from this farm and do.
	You know, we'll ship because we need to support this farm so that we can get it out.
	You know, I want one of these, you know, within Yeah, that's the key.
	I say we ship.
	We didn't ship for a long time because what we really want is to have These farms spread and so that you can get in your car and within an hour visit your farm.
	And that in Florida, the productivity would be insane.
	The grass grows.
	It actually rains all summer there.
	So a little bit of land, probably 100 acres of land, Would support the scale of this kind of farm.
	But the farm model, I think, is a key because we spent a lot of time thinking through this.
	And to create a farm that has the centerpiece of a raw dairy with a creamery that takes the excess milk, produces butter, you know, all these high nutrient-dense dairy products that are raw that have the full microbiome.
	And then that harvests the meat on the farm.
	So you have an on-farm butchery that You know, a big enough scale that you can process, you know, your older dairy cows into burger.
	You can, and that's what we're doing here.
	So when interns come to our farm, they're learning how to milk cows, how to separate the cream, how to make, uh, Ghee from the butter, how to make cheese from the milk, you know, all these additional things that they're learning and they're learning, look, the microbiome is the key to this.
	Like, one of the, as we've gotten into cheese making, this kind of, there's been kind of this Merger in my mind, microbiome science in cheesemaking, microbiome science in farming, they come together.
	So the cultures, the enzymes that are used in cheese, the rennet, is actually 90% of the cheese you get in the market is now this, they use a GMO. It's made by Pfizer.
	Pfizer-owned. Wow.
	Yes. Rennet.
	All your cheese. That produces your cheese.
	Yes. There's articles on...
	RFK's Children's Health Defense TV, there's an article about this.
	This is a scary thing that Pfizer all of a sudden is basically...
	And Merck. Yeah. They've taken over the whole cheese industry in that their GMO patented, GMO product is what's used rather than the natural...
	The cultures we use for our cheese are what came out of the cow's udder.
	It's so amazing.
	If you explore David Asher's natural cheesemaking methods that are traditional, beautiful, he's reviving He's a big force, I would say, in reviving this and preserving this natural cheesemaking methodologies.
	Stop using commercial cultures.
	It's very simple stuff, but it needs this decentralized approach where, you know, you drive...
	We're going to need this to survive as a species.
	Look, these centralized systems, centralized debt finance, it's going to collapse.
	Centralized processed food, it's collapsing.
	Centralized toxic pharmaceutical death jab injections, that industry is collapsing.
	You know, I mean, frankly, a lot of our population may collapse because of the death industry that's taken over.
	Yes. For those who survive the remnant of humanity, it's going to be the skills that you are talking about and teaching and sharing.
	You know, you're not just running a farm, you're running a mission.
	Right. If it wasn't a mission for us, if we didn't have this passion, like, you know, my second son died when he was 26 because he was disabled, he was in a wheelchair, never went, you know, developed past six months old, and And so that, when you as a father realized that that was caused by that injection that he got in 1986, when they took all the liability away from the vaccine companies and insisted that we inject a sexually transmitted disease,
	hepatitis B, into our newborns, that's a side effect.
	His condition was a side effect of that vaccine published on the vaccine insert.
	You know, then you have this passion behind your mission That is like, you know, oh, this is difficult, but we're not giving up because this is war and the children are being damaged.
	And we need to turn that around and we need to turn it around in a very sensible way where we're not getting, you know, you can't enter that war with violence.
	You have to enter it with violence.
	Intelligence, with a peaceful approach, with God behind you, with God's design.
	Those are the...
	Yeah. And so, that's what we've said.
	We need to return to the garden.
	We need to recognize that there's a spiritual battle that's manifesting itself today in a big way.
	I think what you were saying earlier, Mike, about...
	Yeah, if Jesus had these kinds of issues to deal with in his time, those scriptures and the way that he approached when he was, you know, addressing Pilate, and they were saying, hey, are you the king of the Jews?
	He was just like, he responded and just said, well...
	My kingdom is not of this world.
	To me, he was saying, you guys are so messed up that I don't even want to deal with you.
	My kingdom is not of this world.
	Didn't that scripture begin with, bruh?
	Well, it was, you know, Jesus was red-pilling all of humanity, if you think about it.
	And yeah, Pilate found no fault with Jesus.
	Pilate was like, okay, you're no threat to Rome.
	You say you're the king of this other world.
	And you can imagine Pilate probably rolled his eyes because he's a Roman court official.
	He's like, eh, whatever. Like, eh, there's people talking whatever kind of nonsense in his view, right?
	Yeah. And he didn't know who he had there, but he said there's no harm to Rome and try to push him back out, but of course other people wanted him dead.
	But aside from that, I believe that food, when properly created, is an expression of love.
	Food is the teaching of Christ and the New Testament of love for all of humanity.
	And as Christ said that all humans are brothers and sisters, when we break bread with them, when we share food with them, we're also sharing the microbiome like you said.
	We are in fact exchanging molecules with each other.
	We become one family.
	It's literal and spiritual at the same time.
	Yeah, that's right. One of the things that We are envisioning and have, since the very beginning, is that each of these new farms that are doing just what we're doing here, this is a model farm here, is each one needs to have a chapel or a building on it where they can worship together.
	We've had three couples married right here on our farm.
	Four babies born on our farm.
	So you have occasional services there?
	Yes. On the farm?
	Every farm should have that, right?
	So every farm will have that.
	Maybe that's also a homeschool hub.
	Maybe it's also where people come in and get their microbiome reversed.
	Just get yourself healed, right?
	So if you've got...
	A farm like this serving a thousand living people plus shipping, living near you, plus shipping, look how many people we can serve spiritually and with food and just in a decentralized, you know, that crazy world out there, leave us alone.
	We're not in the matrix.
	And the fact that you have organized this under a church structure, this is significant because our founding fathers put in place separation of church and state.
	And I know that the government cannot define what is a religion.
	They can't license your church.
	They can't force you to practice a certain religion or to speak certain words as Rome, Rome-controlled religion.
	The church of the Israelites and the Jews and Rome controlled what they said and who was allowed to preach.
	But that's not the case in America today.
	So your church, I mean, if you think about it, what you're doing and what I'm doing are so closely aligned.
	We're talking about God's molecules.
	That's right. And you know what's crazy?
	You know what's crazy is when you think about We're good to go.
	That there was a bona fide war on humanity through the food supply and through pharmaceuticals that needs to be fought with on purpose, intentional, decentralized strategies.
	And here, all these years later...
	You have a church, you have a decentralized farm, and you're evangelizing to others who may pick up what you're putting down and may decide, somebody here near Tampa, Florida, please, with 100 acres, please step and repeat this.
	How would someone go about stepping and repeating?
	If I had 100 acres now, what would the process be to say, hey, put me in, coach?
	Right. So that is our mission.
	We are on 160 acres in Yonkala, Oregon, and my quest has been to Kind of not get distracted in that we need to get up to full scale.
	So one of the things that the government tries to, I think, there's a myth about, oh, you know, I'm going to take my family and become a homesteader, and I'm going to go off in the country and just raise my own food.
	But winning the war is not about that.
	Winning the war is about Community and building community, building community around these farms and building a really solid community working the farm.
	So our mission is still in the mode of we're going to demonstrate that at full scale this farm is like unstoppable.
	And we're getting very close to that now.
	We're getting very close to where the finances are break even.
	We're getting good exposure.
	Mike's previous exposure kind of We really had an impact on our farm and the people who understand what we're doing.
	Getting this farm, if you want to franchise a business, you have to have a really Hoppin' business.
	So that's this Yonkala farm.
	But at the same time, the MoolaCoin concept needs to be launched and Put together in a way that assets, you know, if you're building a new system, people have to recognize that it's a good system and they have to move their assets into that system.
	So I have a key question for you here.
	I'm sorry to interrupt, but then for people watching, if they are really inspired by what you're doing and they want to copy what you're doing because you're trailblazing this, can they contact you?
	Do you help others set this up?
	Absolutely. And I would say that it's about It's about, you know, if you've got 100 acres, or anybody who's got 100 acres or two, that's great, but there's some infrastructure that has to be put on that.
	Like, you're going to need an on-farm butchery, so we're going to have to consult with you on that.
	You're going to need a dairy. We're going to have to do that, plus we're going to need to send some of our trained people.
	We happen to have two interns They're in Florida.
	I think they're in the Tampa area.
	They're already there.
	Another woman's coming here from Florida.
	We're training young people around through our farm.
	That would be a starting point for somebody who said, I have the I have the resources and I want to copy what you're doing.
	I would say, let's meet.
	We have an internship program.
	We can run you through the intensity of that program and you can get a flavor for, really, do you really want to do this?
	Because this is not easy. It's a lot of work, yes.
	And so that would be a good starting point.
	Also, I think that Just take, you know, understanding, oh, okay, I've got 100 acres.
	It's really, to me, it's not so much about the land as it is about the community.
	And so when I set people up, I've set up, like we have Project Farmstand in Michigan, and they become part of the church, the national church body, but there's a separate associated auxiliary ministry of the church.
	And so we would If you're saying, I want to be part of this body, then we'll set you up with your private membership association.
	And we need people to come and join us who are software developers, who can create the software infrastructure.
	My previous life was all about technology.
	So managing this software, like if we have an order, if you look at like The Azure standard software, it's beautiful.
	We do that type of thing that directs people to where their farm is locally, allows them to select a farm, join a farm.
	And these private ministries are working.
	They each have their own separate board of trustees, but then they have a representation on the national organization.
	And it is a separate system that we're advocating, but it's a separate system that shuns all of the fake stuff that the world has been built on.
	At least the world we see through the screens have been built on it.
	I'll share that on the 21st of September, I'm hosting at my place a one-year celebration of the food force that foodforestabundance.com solved.
	And I'm going to have Jim here and his whole team, and we're inviting other people who have food force as well.
	And the reason why I bring that up is This network that Jim has created here in Florida, I think we should all get on a Zoom call at some point in time to be able to collaborate and discuss.
	It's not who you know, it's who they know, right?
	And ultimately, just because of the small degrees of separation, we might be able to find one or two of these like-minded people who have this kind of land.
	I would love to be involved in, since you have a team...
	Some team members down here near Tampa anyway.
	Let's get them an invitation to come on over to on the 21st.
	What a great idea.
	And I would say too that in addition to all that, a really practical way of helping us is to open a Moolah account and buy some Moolah.
	Buy some Moolah coin because that's going to help us finish this.
	It's the model farm. Come visit it.
	Come visit us when we're done.
	Come learn how to make cheese, Mike.
	Or anybody really.
	Come learn how to do this.
	to see how it's really done in deference and as a blessing.
	Absolutely.
	For what divine opportunities we've been given to pursue here.
	All right, folks, let me give out the website again.
	It's pmafarms.com, is where you can get to Helios Farms Private Membership Association.
	And I wanna ask both of you, Theo and Kira, I want to mention something to you off camera as well, so don't hang up.
	But we are going to wrap up this interview for Decentralized TV. And Todd, I want to just ask you for your final thoughts here.
	And then, of course, we'll have the after-party discussion after the break.
	But I want to thank our guests.
	Just an amazing thing that you're doing.
	And thank you for taking the time with us today.
	And Todd, your final thoughts?
	I'm so grateful. I'm just so grateful, because I've really, really been thinking this through.
	I mean, I've been going and getting my meat from Wild Fork Foods, and you know, it's the best I can kind of do around here.
	I don't want to get it from my local grocery stores.
	So the fact that you will ship it, and after this interview, knowing the love, care, feeding that has gone into your animals, And that we're going to benefit from this.
	I will tell you, I'm not kidding you.
	I am immediately going to buy me some moolah and with pleasure, you know, and I hope you take that melting green crappy cash and I hope you quickly invest it into more things that create moolah for you.
	But thank you.
	It's been astonishing.
	Great vote of confidence from you and Mike, you just having us on a second time is so wonderful.
	I love everything you guys are doing.
	Mike, especially you've been on the forefront of all this for so long and I sure do appreciate all that you do and all that you recognize that other people are doing too.
	Absolutely. Well, that's what we're here for.
	And we offer you blessings, prayers for your success, and also the success of your missions to share this model with other people.
	Because like I said earlier, this is how we save humanity.
	I mean, literally Western civilization is going to depend on decentralization of the food supply.
	And those who do not understand that...
	Many of them will starve and they will suffer under famine.
	Some will die. And we don't want any of that to happen.
	But that's where it's going.
	But you offer real solutions for people.
	So thank you. Bless you.
	Thank you so much for joining us today.
	Thank you, Mike. Thank you.
	All right. Again, stand by and let me just give out the website one more time.
	PMAFarms.com is where you can go to find out about this.
	And then if you go to, here it is, buy MoolaCoin, then that takes you to the place where you can actually purchase MoolaCoin.
	And then you can exchange MoolaCoin for their products.
	It's great if you're local enough in Oregon to get fresh milk right there locally, but you don't have to be there.
	There are a number of things they can ship, such as cheese and many other things as well.
	I'm going to trade silver for cheese, but we'll talk about that off air.
	So we'll be back after this short break with the after-party discussion, Todd and I. So stay with us.
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	Alright, welcome back folks.
	And it's Todd and I for the after party.
	And wow, what a great conversation with Helios Farms.
	So Todd, you and I are huge fans of both, you know, healthy food, clean food, and decentralization.
	So this is like, this is the perfect fit here today.
	Yeah, throw in a moolah coin, you know, a PMA farm.
	And a little bit of Bible scripture, yeah.
	Ortho-molecular restorative farms, all of that.
	Man, you got to party, Mike.
	Yeah, and it's not... See, when you look at what they're doing there, it's not some kind of fad.
	You know, this isn't just a buzzword.
	This is civilization we're talking about.
	Yeah, it is. What they are doing, yeah.
	And you know what, Mike?
	I know people have created these churches...
	As kind of a fake left-go-right to be able to avoid, you know, perhaps tax consequences of being in the public, right?
	But what I love about this, and you can just feel it from them, right, when you listen to them, is I can get into this church, Mike.
	I mean, I get it.
	It's based in the Word.
	It's based about the Garden of Eden, and they're reading Scripture, and like you are with your sermons, you're transcripting
	the Scripture and being able to make it relevant to today.
	And that's something to me that is way different from fake left, go right, just to avoid taxes.
	This is something that is like, man, I'll join this church.
	What they're doing is not a proxy church structure.
	They're living and breathing and teaching the scripture and the church...
	What their church believes in is Edenic, I would call it Edenic foods, which is the Word of God.
	It's God's molecules expressed through food and Mother Nature.
	Now, what's interesting is that my sermons teach plant-based molecules, for the most part.
	I don't talk about beef.
	I haven't yet, and I don't even talk about milk and cheese.
	I talk about plants and herbs and essential oils as God's molecules.
	But what Helios Farms and their church focuses on It's the microbiome as part of the milk and the cheese.
	It's what makes the cheese.
	It's what makes the cream.
	It's what makes the meats even have more flavor and more taste and more nutrition.
	It's a separate realm from the botanicals, but it's also the same teachings of God.
	It's the word of God through food.
	Right, which doesn't necessarily translate all the way to today's operating reality, Mike, because I cannot imagine going to my local McDonald's to, instead of breaking bread, breaking a big gulp.
	You know, that doesn't quite happen.
	Big gulps! Have you ever seen those big gulps?
	Those 40 ounce big gulps?
	Oh my god. Oh yeah, like people get them at gas stations and places like that.
	Yeah, it's just like a half a gallon of soda or something, or more than a half a gallon.
	But if you think about what they were describing about how they care for their animals and what they feed them and that they don't put vaccines in them and everything, I gotta believe, I know that I'm ordering a lot of food from them and I can't wait to begin because I think it's going to heal me.
	In certain ways.
	Because as good as I try to eat now, it's really impossible to ensure or assure that I'm not getting meat that doesn't have steroids and vaccines and everything else in it.
	And you know, what's really cool, like...
	One of the reasons I have gold and silver is so that in the future, when necessary, I can trade it for the things that we need, like food.
	But I can trade silver for food with Helios Farms right now.
	I can ship your cheese.
	I'll put the cheese in the refrigerator, which will kind of hit pause on the shelf life that...
	The cheese will basically be in stasis.
	And then if we lose the power grid, if we have a Mad Max scenario, then I just take the cheese out and I start eating it over a few weeks or whatever.
	And it serves its purpose.
	So I've traded silver for food, food that can work during a collapse scenario and help keep us alive while we're scrambling to try to plant more food, which is very intensive.
	In terms of physical activity, you know how much work goes into a food forest.
	It's a lot. Yeah, it has been lately.
	We've been having some nasty storms that have knocked over my trees, and it just kind of breaks my heart.
	I've had to stake all my trees.
	So yeah, it's hard, but it's also rewarding.
	Yeah, for sure.
	But if you're stuck in a famine scenario, And you're eating from your food forest.
	You've got a lot of fruit there, but you're also going to want some cheese on the side too, right?
	Oh, absolutely.
	Absolutely. That's why I was asking them, do you put it in the fridge or do these things, can you keep them at room temperature?
	And I think the answer is both and, right?
	You can keep them just at room temperature and they'll just get more sharp over a period of a year.
	but at the point in time you want to start eating it or you go into the casing,
	I presume that's when you need to then put it into the fridge unless you don't have power.
	But then it's not gonna go bad overnight.
	It'll be weeks that you could eat off it, right?
	Yeah, exactly.
	And you know, if you have no power, things have gone very badly for society.
	Like if we all have no power, something's gone horribly wrong.
	And at that point, you know, Your cheese would probably be the least of your concerns.
	You're going to be like, do I have full magazines for my AR? You know, because the zombies are coming or whatever.
	Yeah. But, you know, that cheese could be good commerce, too, a little bit, Mike.
	Absolutely. No, food...
	Look, food is a fundamental pillar of sustainable society.
	And I think it's really...
	It's highly relevant that, in terms of history...
	We're seeing right now the suicide of Western civilization.
	We're seeing it across Western Europe.
	We're seeing it in America, in Canada, Australia, and New Zealand.
	And it's because, I mean, think about it, the foods that Western civilization has turned to in the last, let's say, 80 years, they are suicide foods.
	So it shouldn't be any surprise that Western civilization is committing suicide because it's been living on a suicide diet for generations now.
	That wasn't true pre-World War II, let's say.
	Yeah. But it is true today, sadly.
	Isn't that amazing? We're eating ourselves to death.
	Absolutely. And blaming it on, I don't know, heredity, right?
	Blaming it on hate speech, yeah.
	Or mean tweets or something.
	By the way, I'm just going to let this secret out.
	What? Everybody, Mike's a really good rapper, and he's worked on a couple of rap songs that I've had the pleasure of just listening in on.
	Oh my God, you're so good, Mike.
	I can't wait until you release these things.
	Oh, that's...
	Oh, that...
	Okay, that touches me that you would say that.
	I... I do enjoy writing music and you know actually I think well let me share something else with you on this.
	Okay. So the rap song I've created called Song of Solomon which is based on the Old Testament Song of Solomon book and it's hilarious and it raps you know it talks about spices and herbs and cinnamon and all these amazing things but also it's kind of a love story between King Solomon and this This younger woman that he's in love with or lust with.
	I'm not sure what it is, but anyway, it's a pretty steamy book of the Bible.
	Yeah. And so I've done a rap song about it, and I think we can play it here.
	We can play it here in the after party coming up.
	Yeah. But check this out.
	There's something else. One of my staffers who does graphic design for us found this AI video tool where you can give it a description in text and it will spit out like five seconds of video.
	Okay. It's text to video.
	It's all AI. Wow.
	So some of the lyrics in the song are so hilarious and crazy.
	Like, your navel is as round as a goblet.
	Yeah. And you know, your waist is like a A pile of wheat, I think is how that goes.
	And I added some funny lyrics myself on top of it.
	It's like, the temples behind your veil are like pomegranate.
	And I added, stuck in your teeth.
	Right. Pomegranate.
	Yeah. So we've created now AI video segments of pomegranate seeds spilling out of the teeth of a young Middle Eastern woman.
	It's so funny.
	It's not even a real person, right?
	It's just created by AI. So the music video is now all AI video.
	Gosh, that's cool. It's hilarious because AI comes up with the craziest stuff.
	It's like extra hands and fingers and stuff.
	I can't wait. Now, are you going to continue?
	I know you had one...
	Maybe it has the word Kamala in it.
	You're expanding your repertoire.
	We'll see. But my next song is actually...
	The lyrics are all...
	I mean, the recording is all done.
	And it's called God is With Us.
	And we're now working on the video for that, which will also be AI video, but it has to be less crazy.
	Because it's a more serious message.
	It's not comedy. Yeah.
	Okay. But that one, yeah, that one's coming out next.
	Within probably a couple of weeks, God is with us.
	And then after that, we'll see. We'll see what happens.
	Okay. Well, I encourage you to keep doing what you do because they are hilarious and really good.
	You're really good. Oh, wow.
	Well, thank you. Let's go ahead and play it.
	Let's play it right here. Song of Solomon.
	Here's the two-minute song with the AI video.
	Check it out, folks.
	♪ A garden enclosed in my sister, my spouse ♪ ♪ A spring shut up, I found it sealed in your house ♪
	♪ Your plants are an orchard of pomegranate fruits ♪ ♪ Fragrant henna, spikenard, fruity roots ♪
	♪ Spikenard and saffron, calamus and cinnamon ♪ ♪ All the trees are frankincense, make you wanna get with
	them ♪ ♪ Myrrh and aloes with all the chief spices ♪
	♪ God's healing molecules, certainly enticing ♪ ♪ Song of Solomon, what'd you say again? ♪
	♪ Song of Solomon, yeah ♪ ♪ Your teeth are like a flock of short sheep ♪
	♪ They come off washer from the hill so steep ♪ ♪ Your navel is a rounded goblet ♪
	♪ Your waist is a heap of wheat ♪ ♪ Your lips are like a strand of scarlet ♪
	♪ And your mouth is lovely like a bridal wreath ♪ ♪ Your temples behind your veil are like a piece of pomegranate
	♪ ♪ Stuck in your teeth, your neck is like the Tower of
	David ♪ ♪ Your hair is like a flock of goats ♪
	♪ The clothes you have on smell like Lebanon ♪ ♪ And your breasts are like fawns that can flutter, flutter,
	flutter ♪ ♪ Song of Solomon, what'd you say again? ♪
	♪ Song of Solomon, and she said, I am a mall and my breasts like towers ♪
	I bet even grape juice vineyard showers.
	If a king can give all the wealth of his house to his spouse, the fires could never be doubted.
	Awake, oh north wind, come, oh south.
	How much better than mine is your love?
	I have taken off my robe.
	I have washed my feet. Open for me, sister, my dove.
	There are sixty queens and eighty concubines, but my dove is awesome as an army with banners.
	Your hair is like a flock of goats, your neck like a tower.
	And for me, that's all that matters.
	Alright, so AI video, wrapping the Bible, Old Testament, man.
	I might be the only person crazy enough to try to pull that off.
	Hey Mike, how do people follow you on Telegram?
	RealHealthRanger on Telegram.
	And what about Instagram?
	No Instagram.
	We're banned on Instagram.
	Not Instagram. I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry. X. Oh, Health Ranger on X. And the reason why I'm asking is, everybody who just listened to that rap video, if you want to encourage Mike for more, you know, go to X and maybe send him a comment.
	We want more Mike rap.
	Well, I will post it separately on X, but we've got a new website that should be up by the time this comes out, and it's abundance.church.
	So if you go to abundance.church, we have all the 100 sermons that I'm doing about nutrition.
	That's great. Yep. It's kind of like what we're doing with Decentralized TV, but without the video.
	Now, I'm a podcast guy, and I'm just kind of addicted to downloading my, you know me, I'm a knuckle-dragger, I download my NFL football podcast, and I listen to them.
	Will your sermons also be where we can find them if you like to just listen?
	Yeah, absolutely. We're going to have a downloadable MP3 zip file of all the sermons.
	Okay, but I won't be able to go to, like, my Apple library, you know, where you can search for...
	Like, I listened to your Health Ranger report.
	Oh, okay. Yeah, at some point, we'll get it into iTunes and all the other podcasts.
	Yeah. But yeah, Todd, we'll have it distributed coming up, but the best way right now, people can go to abundance.church and they can join the email list there, or they can download the sermons there, or check out the songs and what have you.
	And by the way, I want to post this episode on that website for abundance.church because...
	Oh, that would be great. Yeah, this is really aligned with what we're talking about and teaching today.
	And I love the fact too, Todd, that you've studied the Bible and you see how important the hand of God is, the hand of creation, coming back through everything that we do.
	This comes down to life.
	And God wanted us to be, in essence, decentralized.
	That is, self-reliant.
	Nothing wrong with community.
	We need strength with each other.
	But also to be self-capable.
	Not to bow down to Caesar or to Rome or to some rogue centralized government.
	In fact, half the teachings of Jesus were like, stop bowing down to tyranny in the government and in the church.
	Bingo! And I don't know about you, Mike, but I have just sworn off
	living in any kind of fear.
	Literally have sworn it off. Why?
	Why?
	Because my God is bigger than any Druid Babylonian bastard out
	there, and my God actually listens to me, and I believe he puts a hedge of
	protection around us if we ask for it, if we sincerely ask for it. And
	so let's not live in fear because that's how the Druid Babylonian
	bastards eat.
	Are there Druids in Babylon?
	Is that... Yeah, man, I put it all together.
	I put it all together.
	That's all biblical, Mike.
	I came up with that a long time ago to define everything that I believe is evil.
	That's funny. That's funny because I believe the Druids, I think they carried a stick called a shalala and they would beat each other or enemies with their sticks.
	Yeah. Does that ring a bell?
	I don't know, but it sure sounds like one heck of a rap song to me, Mike.
	That's your next project.
	Okay, okay. The Druid rap.
	Yeah, that should be interesting.
	Nobody will get it because nobody knows what the Druids are all about.
	Nobody reads the Bible.
	No, I mean... Even singing about the Song of Solomon, a lot of people are not going to know where are these words coming from.
	That's crazy. I'm like, I didn't make them up.
	It comes right out of the Bible.
	Your neck is like a Tower of David.
	Yeah. That's talking to the king.
	Mike, you're taking such a deep dive into scripture because you're using it for your sermons, you're using it for your songs and such, but would you agree with me that once you start going down that path of really studying it, that you don't read the Bible, it starts to read you?
	Yeah, that's an interesting way to put it.
	I would say that the Bible is the most anti-woke book ever written.
	It really is. I mean, as I've said, if it were published today, Amazon would ban it.
	Yes. It's the most red pill book.
	It's a book of peace activism.
	At least the New Testament part, not the Old Testament so much, but the New Testament.
	It's a book of universal love, but it's also a book of decentralization, too.
	Think about what Christ was saying.
	You don't have to listen to these corrupt Pharisees and these corrupt priests and these corrupt churches, and half the priests are banging the whores in the Roman temples anyway.
	So this is Jesus Christ saying, be decentralized in your spiritual life.
	Right. I mean, do we need any other authority?
	You know, sometimes people say, well, what's your source?
	The Bible! Yes.
	The ultimate source of authority.
	The Word of Christ, the Son of God.
	He said that. What are you going to do?
	Oh, it's not authoritative? But that was written by men and whatnot.
	You know what? I believe that Let's just say if there is a God, right?
	Work with me, atheists, agnostics, right?
	If there is a God, surely, don't you think if he created all of this, that he has the capacity and the know-how and the want-to to be able to write a book?
	And if he does that through men, through, you know, 40 different authors, right?
	1,500 years From beginning to end, with three different languages, and ultimately the end, it all carries the same message of creation, you know, living the fall, sin, but ultimately redemption and salvation.
	Don't you think God has the capacity to be able to do that, Mike?
	Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
	Well, and remember that God speaks to people throughout the Bible, and he speaks to them in their own language.
	So God is not only multidimensional, he's of course multilingual.
	And I would add to that, Todd...
	That God exists outside the dimension of time.
	And so God sees all time, past, present, and future.
	And I believe he has encoded past, present, and future into the words of the scripture, which is why passages of scripture speak to the present and the past and the future at the same time.
	Yeah, so true.
	It's beautiful. Yeah, it really is.
	It's the ultimate mystery of the universe to understand what's in the Bible.
	And I only wonder...
	How many writings are still lost?
	Sure. Right, right. No, it's fascinating.
	And, you know, the Bible, the collection that it is, I even think God has a hand in that.
	You know, it's kind of what he wanted us to be able to read.
	Yeah, true. Right?
	True. But there's a lot of other good stuff out there, too.
	Read Enoch. Yeah, there you go.
	It'll blow your mind.
	Yeah. Well, look, the bottom line here, this has probably been the most faith-based show that we've done here on this program.
	But for anybody who's challenging that out there watching, who's like, I didn't know this was going to be like a Bible show.
	Well, the ultimate champion of decentralization for humankind was Jesus Christ.
	Yeah. That's the defense of why this fits, if we need any defense at all.
	Jesus taught people to love each other, become self-reliant, act with morality so that you can engage in contract with trust, with integrity, with wholesomeness, which is what the PMAs of the farms, like Helios Farms, that's what it's all about. Engage in a private contract.
	I will give you this and we will give you back milk or cheese or meat.
	This is a biblical principle.
	Yeah. It's defiled by the way modern industry works, which is where, oh, you don't pay for anything.
	The government pays for it.
	The insurance company pays for it.
	You don't even know how much it costs.
	So there's price gouging. And it's like, what?
	Where is commerce taking place in the medical system?
	It's just price gouging and corruption and fraud.
	That's not biblical. That's demonic.
	Right. Man, I can't wait to order this food.
	Let's wrap this up so I can go get me some moolah coin.
	Alright, well, hey, speaking of moolah coin then, yeah, let me show the silver that I am going to trade with them.
	If I can open this up.
	So these are called prepper bars right here.
	And this is silver.
	It's about two ounces of silver.
	And you can break off the pieces.
	They're kind of pre-etched here.
	I don't know if you can see that.
	Yeah. And these large pieces in the center, these are one quarter ounce of silver.
	Three nines. That's.999.
	And then these are one tenth ounce over here and one twentieth of an ounce.
	So you can actually use silver.
	You can make change. You can trade with people.
	You can use it at a farmer's market Buy, sell, trade, barter with actual silver.
	We are an affiliate of this company, and they've been able to give us a 10% discount off of these for our audience.
	If you go to rangerdeals.com, you'll see the discount there.
	Let me bring up that website, rangerdeals.com.
	Right there on the top right, you see that?
	Save 10% off the silver bars and 5% off gold bars.
	They have gold just like that as well.
	And you just use discount code RANGER and click that link.
	And then at rangerdeals.com we've got other forms of silver, we've got goldbacks, we've got gold coins, we've got ivermectin for pets, the de-googled phones, the satellite phones, discounts on all these other things.
	Many of these are sponsors.
	Some are just affiliates. Some are not affiliates at all.
	They just offer discount codes.
	But the place to find that is rangerdeals.com.
	So that's what I'm going to do, Todd.
	I'm going to send them silver.
	Well, Mike, I have a favor.
	Maybe before we publish this, you could do this.
	I mean, they have a basis for what a Moola coin is.
	What was it again? It was like a half a cup of...
	Half a gallon of raw milk.
	Half a gallon of raw milk.
	If you can determine in fiat right now what a half a gallon of raw milk is and then translate it to that silver sheet to say, hey, that's just two taps of these or whatever, that would be kind of cool to just get people thinking about that way, that if they went to a farmer's market or whatnot, that might be the math that you go through to be able to exchange.
	Yeah. No, great point. I think they showed on their website $13.50 is equal currently to one Moolah coin.
	Okay, great. Although that's going to change because the dollar is losing value.
	So then how would that translate to that silver two-ounce sheet that you have that you break off into 20ths?
	Well, the cost of one prepper bar...
	Let's go look at the cost here.
	One prepper bar costs more than spot silver because, of course, you have to manufacture it and so on.
	So let's get the actual price here.
	Hold on. Okay.
	And then, of course, people are going to enter Ranger to be able to get their 10% discount.
	That's right. So let's see.
	Where is the prepper bar?
	Add to cart, hold on.
	Okay, so one prepper bar is the retail is $159.99, so that's $160 minus 10%.
	So, you know, minus $16 roughly.
	Yep. So we'll call that.
	All right, so that means that the end user is going to be paying about $144 for this after prepper.
	After the discount. And then, so these are $1.20, these are $1.10.
	So what I'm going to do here, let's say then $1.10 will be $14.40, right?
	Yeah. Which is not that far away from their $13.50.
	So I'm going to break off here one of these pieces right here.
	Alright, so this 1.10 ounce of silver, this is half a gallon of fresh raw milk.
	From Helios Farms. That's one mula coin.
	This is equivalent to one mula coin.
	How cool is that?
	And that ends up being translated into nutritious food.
	That's right. Half a gallon of raw, nutritious, healthy milk from unvaccinated healthy cows.
	Yes. And if you so choose to collect a lot of moolah coins, then you could probably buy a side of beef.
	Yeah, well, exactly. Yeah, I'm certainly going to investigate it all.
	I'm buying cheese, their charcuterie board.
	I'm fascinated.
	Yeah, well, see, what's so cool about this is we have to stop thinking about dollars as money because dollars aren't money.
	Dollars are debt, as you well know.
	Silver is money.
	Food has real value.
	Gold is money.
	Right. And you can even argue that...
	Crypto, certain forms are money because they tend to hold their value and they can't be counterfeited.
	That's right. Whereas the dollar can be counterfeited, but Bitcoin cannot be counterfeited.
	Yep. So, I would say Bitcoin is more money than the dollar is.
	Oh, 100%. That's way more perfect money than the dollar, the melting dollar.
	Exactly. Hey, speaking of money, you've got something to help people keep more of what they earn in money.
	I do, and I'm so excited, Mike.
	You know, a couple of weeks ago, I launched my575e.com, and I did that.
	Yes, and I did that because the way people used to be able to learn about this tax-advantaged entity would be to book a $500 consultation with me through decentralizeddirectory.com.
	And I really wanted to impart...
	The value of this unincorporated nonprofit association without people having to make that kind of investment.
	So I spent a lot of my own money, Mike, creating what I think is a wonderful website that if people go to it and they put in their email address and name, they will then unlock the access to a 14-page website No, 18-page PDF training guide and there's a 90-minute video where I interview The subject matter expert.
	He's been at this for over 34 years.
	His name is Dennis Gray.
	You'll be able to see that interview where we cover everything on how you can receive an IRS tax-exempt EIN number, how you can reduce your tax liability on W9 and W2 earnings.
	If you just stop there, These entities are worth it to most people, but there are so many other advantages.
	If you donate your property, it's worth the 90 minutes, and it's free.
	So go there, and then if you're like, hey, I have done my research, I like this.
	The process to acquire your own could not be simpler.
	And of course, there are ways to be able to connect with me through there if you have any additional questions.
	But Mike, since we've been talking about it on the show, I've been very, very busy because people are responding with really enthusiastic pleasure, Mike.
	Oh, I would imagine, because there's so many secrets about asset protection or just keeping what you've earned.
	They're not well publicized.
	The mainstream media is not going to tell you about any of this stuff.
	I mean, the media won't even talk to you about silver or gold.
	That's right. They'll tell you, oh, gold's an ancient relic rock that nobody uses.
	You're like, well, why are the central banks of the whole world buying it by thousands of tons?
	I mean, you know, what's going on?
	But the media won't tell you about.
	What you're talking about. No, nor will necessarily your accountant or your tax accountant or a lawyer.
	And I had on a Zoom call with me a guy who headed up Deloitte for nine years.
	Deloitte is one of the big four accounting firms.
	He headed up North America.
	And he was on there just to be an advisor to this gentleman named Matt.
	And at the end he said, Wow, this looks pretty bulletproof.
	He says, but they sure didn't teach me this either at tech school or law school, Matt.
	And that was just this great validation.
	So, you know, look, come in, kick the tires, learn.
	I've made it accessible to where it is free to do so.
	And then we're all big boys, big girls.
	We make our own decisions, but it is a resource for you now.
	You know, I know somebody who's in a business school, an MBA program, and all they teach is debt as business success, that you have to take on more debt to have more cash flow to entice more investors to get into more debt.
	And it's like it's a total debt-based system.
	They don't teach assets.
	You're not supposed to have assets.
	You're supposed to have debt, and that's value.
	And I'm like, you got it all backwards.
	Yeah, yeah. And just like what you're talking about with your sermons and such, so much of what we are learning through Decentralize.TV are relatively undiscovered ways to improve our lives, right? Yeah. But that's what we hope to bring to people.
	And look, if you want to keep more of what you earn...
	Please visit my575e.com and just explore.
	That's all. All right.
	Well stated. So, Todd, this has been a great show, a lot of fun.
	We've shared a lot of great wisdom today, and I hope our audience found value in it.
	I'm sure they did. So thank you, Todd, for your time today.
	Thank you, Mike. This has been fun, as always.
	Always good to see you.
	Really appreciate our friendship, Mike.
	You too, Todd. Take care.
	God bless. All right.
	Cheers. All right.
	And for all of you watching, you can check out more episodes at decentralize.tv.
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	It doesn't matter when you watch them, but they're available for free to watch each and every one of them.
	So check it out, decentralize.tv.
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