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Aug. 20, 2024 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Mike Adams interviews George Howard about COSMIC SUMMIT 2024...
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Welcome to today's interview on Brighteon.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.
And just, just wow.
You're going to love this because I've got George Howard for you here.
He is the founder of the Cosmic Summit, which already took place in 2024.
There's another one coming up in 2025.
And if you want your mind to be blown about true history, true archaeology, about the origins of everything that came into existence that we know now...
This is the guy that you want to hear from, and he's going to be streaming a free docuseries on Brighton University, which we'll get to in a second.
Welcome, George, to the show today.
It's just an honor to have you on today.
Hey, thank you, Mike.
I don't know if your folks want to hear from me, but they want to hear from the 27 people we had speak at the Cosmic Summit, man, and I'll do my best job to summarize what they told us last month.
Oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
So you had 27 speakers, just extraordinary people presenting at the summit.
So now what, you've taken a special selection of those for our streaming event?
Exactly.
We curated it down to eight main episodes and then three bonus episodes.
Actually, two of the bonus episodes, I think, have two parts.
I guess it'd be five bonuses.
So we've got eight key episodes curated for people that your folks are going to love to hear from.
And then we've got some bonuses tagged on at the end.
And it runs the whole spectrum of unconventional history studies, as I call it these days.
Okay.
We're going to get into that, because I love that.
Let me give out your website first, and then I'll tell people where they can register.
So your website is CosmicSummit.com, and here it is talking about what's coming up next year, 2025.
And I would say, you're an optimist, George.
You're assuming we're going to make it to next year, so I really admire your optimism.
I'll tell you what, Mike, we agree on a lot of things, and I tell you, I just try to put that side of my mind to the side, because you've got to continue with life.
That's right.
But it's going to get wild between now and then, and hopefully we're more antidote than anything else.
That's for sure.
Let us hope that Old Testament God does not unleash His wrath upon our enemies.
Sinful cities before your summit.
Otherwise, it's going to be interesting, that's for sure.
But let me mention then the website where people can register.
It's Brighteon University or BrightU.com, and they can go there and register to watch it all for free.
So again, folks, this begins streaming August 31st.
It's free to watch.
You can watch every episode, one episode per day at BrightU.com, or you can optionally purchase the entire series and download it and watch it at your convenience and have the files locally.
But, George, talk to us about some of the speakers that are going to be in this, because I know of some of them, and they're amazing.
Yeah, there are people some folks have probably heard of, and then some they haven't.
They're all super quality.
We're starting off with a pretty prominent explorer, Hugh Newman.
Who kind of cut his teeth on Stonehenge and then moved off to the rest of the planet to explain to us why things are aligned as they are and what it tells us when megaliths have certain configurations, etc.
He is a very, very accomplished expert in Göbekli Tepe and has been visiting that earliest temple of man people may have heard of in Turkey.
He's been visiting for over a decade now, and he's got some dramatic new conclusions.
We've got Luke Caverns, who's given a report two weeks out of the jungle in the Mayan jungles, where he's down there with the old mech heads, those giant heads.
We've got Mr.
Ben Van Kirkwijk, super popular Joe Rogan guest, and he's going to tell us about the mysteries of Egypt and the tools that They may have had that we seem to not acknowledge these days, or we certainly don't acknowledge that they had tools that are surprising.
And then Paul Shatzkin, who's a lesser no figure, but an author of a book called The Man Who Mastered Gravity.
And that is the story of T. Townsend Brown and how the anti-gravity research of Brown got swept under the rug in the 1960s.
They made tremendous progress actually here in North Carolina was part of it, which I thought was interesting.
And then it all went away, poof, like that, right?
Wow.
And then Dr.
Steve Collins, who we spoke about just before we started recording, and he is a biblical archaeologist, and I went on his dig for two years in Jordan, and Dr.
Collins has found biblical Sodom.
Wow.
And it is a fascinating story, and we have a published paper in Nature that we published in 2021 on that site, over 100 pages of data and forensic evidence, It shows that that place was destroyed by an airburst from above, and of course the Bible mentions something much like that, so you can make the connection.
Let me stop you there just for a second.
I'm sorry to interrupt, but I'm especially interested in what Dr.
Collins has to teach.
I can't wait to watch that, and you're saying that's included in the live stream from Brighton University?
Absolutely, and he's a tremendous speaker, man of faith.
I can't wait, because you may or may not know, but I've been teaching sermons of Scripture, and so a lot of Old Testament.
And by the way, I'm not afraid of any book of the Bible.
I don't just pick and choose.
I'm like, let's go for it.
Let's talk about Matthew 24.
Let's talk about the book of Revelation.
Let's do it all.
Jeremiah.
And when you get into that, if you try to date the Old Testament and some of the chapters, like Exodus, as I understand it, is dated to maybe about 1400 BCE. Does that sound about right for Exodus?
I'll put it a little differently.
Okay, please, please tell me.
I call it 1200 to 1300.
I think it's 600 or 700 years after Sodom.
It's kind of funny you mentioned, Mike, that Tal al-Hammam, which we have identified as Sodom, it had a wonderful second act because it was the last camp of the Israelites as well.
That's always been acknowledged by the faithful, that that location that we now say is Sodom was also the home of the ark.
It sits right at the foot of Mount Nebo.
So when you're digging at Tal al-Hammam, a.k.a.
Sodom, you look over your shoulder and you're looking at Mount Nebo and you look across the valley, the Jordan Valley, and you're looking directly at Jericho.
Wow.
So it's without question the largest city of the Levant in its day.
So 2000 BC, it was 10 times larger than Jericho and 100 times larger than Jerusalem.
No kidding.
Yeah, it was a massive city.
And Sodom or not, there's no question that Collins discovered the biggest city of Levant in that period.
But it was taken out.
It was smoted in 1700 BC. And then Collins believes, well, it is well known, at least to the faithful, that that was where the ark sat there, and if you date that, that's 500 to 700 years later.
So, again, I can't wait to hear that, but one kind of big question I have for you about all of that is that...
To the best extent that some of the...
Even the book of Genesis, let's say, which spans, I know, a long time period.
But even if you could accurately date Genesis and, let's say, the birth of Abraham and so on, but there were civilizations on other places around the planet that existed before that time.
No question.
Yeah, there's no question about it, right?
So how do you...
I mean, you're kind of a...
I don't know if you describe yourself, but you're a biblical archaeologist, or at least knowledgeable in those areas.
How do you sort of bring together the teachings of the Old Testament with the fact that there are ancient civilizations that existed before that?
Well, I'd say, first of all, the teachings of the Old Testament are universal.
Yeah, they're universal.
So they apply to everyone, and I believe that...
We can attribute the same good and bad, holy and sinful qualities to people in those other civilizations.
Why they were not preserved for us in our spiritual record is a question to ponder, but I think there are no lesser people, and I don't think they were different people.
And I think that they were people subject to Christianity as well, right?
So many of those people, their ancestors now are Christians.
Certainly they're Catholics in Central and South America.
But there was a lot going on back then.
And you're right, particularly the people that grew up in families of faith and grew up with the Bible.
Maybe it gives you a little tunnel vision, if you will, about those times and that you think of times two and three and four thousand years ago as being restricted to that was in the Bible.
It was a big world back then.
There were other places as well.
So I have a question, and I apologize if this seems a little off the wall, but is it possible that a divine creator chose to appear to different cultures as a different personification?
I mean, if I could ask anybody, George, I could ask you that question.
I don't want to upset some of the faithful, right?
Some people think we got one book, we got one story.
There have been other stories, certainly, in my opinion.
And great, very, very ancient spiritual traditions have been passed down from other cultures.
You know, certainly the Indian cultures retain their spiritual knowledge going back 3,000 and 4,000 years, and some of that's fairly consistent with Christianity, right?
Those are religions of peace for the most part.
The new religions, such as the Muslim religion, more questionable.
You know, it's only 1,400 years old, right?
And I don't know if it's quite a religion of peace, quite like ours and others that matured around the world.
Well, I know you wouldn't mind if I asked the question, but I'm also just...
I'm trying to tie this together with the ancient civilizations that we know existed because of what they have left behind.
And, you know, as you well know, there was...
What do you call it?
The antediluvian civilizations, right?
The pre-deluge civilizations.
Can you speak about that for a moment?
Yeah, yeah.
And I probably should have...
Address that right off the bat, that a fundamental plank of what the Cosmic Summit is about is catastrophism writ large, and that's the ancient understanding that has persisted, used to be the dominant understanding, that there was a grand catastrophe thousands of years in the past, and we now know that to be the Younger Dryas event.
And I'm part of the Comet Research Group that wrote a paper in the Proceedings of the National Academy 15 years ago, identifying that as an impact.
Okay, so that matched right up with the Bible, because it would have caused a worldwide catastrophe that included tremendous floods.
And every other culture in the world speaks of the same beginning.
Or the same end of the First Age.
That there was a tremendous catastrophe, and that's been handed down all over the world.
So, you know, everyone from the Mayans to the Indians to the Hopi, You know, et cetera and so forth all tell us that there was a grand catastrophe at some time in the past and we believe we found evidence for it and we have people speaking at the summit who have discovered that evidence and published it.
Let me interject this in and ask you for clarity as well, but as I understand it that this impact event caused a mass unleashing of melted ice caps Into the world's oceans and then cause a significant and sudden rise in sea levels because of all the melted ice.
And that given that a lot of ancient civilizations, just as modern civilizations, would have been founded on coastal regions, because for obvious reasons you have access to ocean food, ocean transportation, and so on, that it makes sense that a lot of the ancient civilizations are underwater now.
So wouldn't that also speak to why they're so difficult to find?
Well, they are difficult to find, but even on the ground, even well inland, we don't look enough.
I mean, we haven't scratched the surface of these things, and whenever we look or dig a little deeper, we seem to find it.
But there's no question, based on some 30 well-published papers from the Younger Dryas Impact Group, or the Comet Research Group, which we call it now, that there was such a catastrophe.
So it lent support to the Bible right off the bat.
And most of the 20 or 30 authors that we have on the papers, the main ones, most of them are not coming from a religious or spiritual perspective at all.
They were just coming from the science.
And the science matched up with the religion.
So isn't that nice?
And in terms of Sodom, which was one of the few deviations from the 13,000 year ago event, because that's when we believe the Great Catastrophe happened, We deviated to look at the Sodom event, and that was 3,700 years ago.
So both of them matched with the biblical text, which is perhaps not surprising.
Well, and I would ask you this question then, because both of those, what else they have in common is that it's rocks falling out of the sky.
Yeah.
Right?
So one of them, as I understand it at least, the deluge was also part of God's purification of Earth because of all the monstrosities that were taking place.
At least, maybe you can correct me if I'm saying this indirectly, but this is one of my understandings of the deluge, is the purification of the planet, and then of course the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah was more of a spiritual purification to destroy the societies that had turned against the morality teachings of God's.
Absolutely.
Yeah, and it's kind of funny, and more of the kind of woo-woo California, let's call them the crystal types, you know, because we get some of that at the summit.
It's funny how their understanding of procession and the cycles of change and the cleansing, they also tend to match the understandings of Christianity.
Interesting.
We're all kind of saying the same things, and that we can be purged, we can be smoted.
You know, we can suffer the consequences of a life of sin, and maybe that is represented or is a representation of The catastrophes that occasionally traumatize the earth that we're documenting.
But Randall Carlson speaks best to it.
He's our lead speaker.
Oh yes, yes, Randall's great.
Yeah, and Randall addresses the flood for about three and a half hours in what we're selling on Bradia.
Between his main stage presentation and then we have a classroom where he speaks for another five hours.
So we've got six hours of Randall Carlson content that you can't see anywhere else.
You know, he's been on Joe Rogan 13 times.
That's got to be a record.
Randall's brilliant.
He's brilliant.
He is brilliant, and he's a wonderful presenter, and we give you, and Brian is going to have going up August 31st, all the Randall you can handle, right?
Okay, all the Randall we can handle.
I love it.
I'm going to tune into all that personally.
So let me give out the website again.
It's brightu.com.
The word bright followed by the letter U, like short for Brighteon University.
So brightu.com.
Go there.
You can register for free to watch this entire docuseries that George has put together from the Cosmic Summit featuring Randall Carlson and so many others that he just mentioned.
And you can also optionally purchase the entire course.
It'll help support the Cosmic Summit and also support our platform, and then you can instantly download the files.
But it's your choice.
You can watch the whole thing for free as well.
But something else I want to ask you, George, I hope you don't mind me kind of prying more about this.
There are several places in the Bible, I think Matthew 24 is one of them, where it talks about post-impact effects, like the sun darkened, right?
The moon was not visible, or the sun became as dark as sackcloth, and so on.
Now, I mean, obviously, even from just a scientific perspective, this is particulate matter being blown into the stratosphere and blocking the sun for a period of time.
Where do you think, or is this a common theme of, like, meteor impacts on Earth throughout human history?
I think it's a little throughout the Bible.
Thank you for asking.
I'm not an expert in that myself, but there's a wonderful book called The Comets of God, and I have no particular reason to pitch that book, no relationship to it, but it is quite a tone, and it goes through the entire Bible and extracts that which it believes our references To impact phenomena and celestial solar phenomena, either witnessing things in space or they actually interact with Earth and sometimes cause great trauma.
And it's not just Genesis.
It's not just Revelation.
That there are instances throughout the entire book that are better explained or perhaps finally explained by being a literal truth as a cosmic connection.
Okay, wow.
I'm going to have to buy this book now.
The Comments of God?
Like for particularly, you know, when Saul becomes Paul and he falls to his knees and sees the flash, you know, what did he see?
And things like that, of course, it's just subject to interpretation, but the constant references of the hosts of heaven.
That book believes that that's referencing celestial phenomena.
And there's reason to believe that given the tarred meteor shower that we still encounter twice a year, every late June and then in late October, which is where Halloween came from, that we've been repeatedly traumatized by this particular meteor shower.
And that would have infused ancient cultures and their spiritual understandings and their mythological and spiritual texts with Something from above that's happening that is out of their control and that they're fearful of.
You know, it's really fascinating.
And I interviewed another guest, I don't know, a few weeks ago.
And I know this is not the area where you focus, but it was about the solar eclipses and the messages written in, or this is the interpretation, the messages in the eclipses and where they cross and the names of the cities and so on and so forth.
I found that fascinating.
It's interesting.
But when it comes to comet impacts, you don't really have to interpret it.
It's like, they hit.
Yeah.
Here's the hit, here's the evidence, boom, here's the crater in some cases.
You don't have to stretch anything, right?
Well, Revelation could be just a dramatic rewrite of those kinds of disasters.
Yes.
I mean, when you're looking in the pit, I mean, all dragons, for instance.
Every culture in the world shares the dragon.
It's on the Welsh flag.
That's right.
Part of Japanese mythology.
And they're fiery.
They're usually fiery dragons.
Exactly.
Right?
So what comes flying in the sky with a fiery mouth and a long winding tail?
A comet.
Well, that's exactly what, or a bull eye.
And, you know, air burst.
When it comes in, it may be a piece of a comet.
They call them comets, call them asteroids, but just incoming.
Particularly if you catch them before they get to the ground.
Thank God most of them Or you'll actually see a trail of smoke high in the atmosphere, 60 miles up or so, that looks like nothing but a snake's tail.
It's a gigantic snake in the sky for hours and hours.
And then you just put the fiery mouth on it.
And that's why we all share the dragon.
Because we have seen those things through the ages and we all came up with the same...
It wouldn't be a personification of it, but, you know, the same way of describing it by making it a big, fiery lizard from the sky.
Well, and now that we're living in the age of so much video technology, more and more of these are being captured.
I was just seeing this morning there was an airburst comet in Japan that was caught.
And there was one in Russia a couple years ago that was significant.
Do you know which one I'm talking about?
Yeah, that's February 15th, 2013, the Chelyabinx.
That's it.
Airburst.
And that gives you a taste of what the Younger Dryas event was like 12,800 years ago.
And you would have had thousands and thousands of those over the period of about four to six hours.
Whoa.
And that's what we believe led to the extinction of the megafauna in North America.
You know, the mammoth, the saber-toothed tiger, the giant ground sloth, the A thing called a glute to dawn, you know, that's an armadillo the size of a golf cart.
All of that blinked out 13,000 years ago.
And remember, man was walking around at that time.
Homo sapiens.
This is not the dinosaur comet.
It's 5,000 times more recent than what happened to the dinosaurs, in fact.
That we would have witnessed that.
And to say that we wouldn't have remembered it in some fashion, I think, is foolish.
Absolutely.
I mean, because it was written in the sky, it was a horrifying event.
The one that you just mentioned in Russia in 2013, even though many, many kilometers away, buildings had their windows blown out.
I mean, it was like an atomic explosion in terms of its power.
And it was in the sky.
It blew up in the sky.
Yeah, and I'm convinced, too, that the government has a lot of data on these things.
And they do not share it, or they share it very sparingly.
And there's a lot of good justification for that.
But I also think that particularly during the 70s and 80s, we could have learned a lot more about cosmic impacts and taken them more seriously But I think the government diverted us for that, again, probably justifiably to some degree, because we need to keep our eyes on the ball in the cold.
You didn't want to scare the public with what we were learning.
But I think that the culture of secrecy has surrounded impact frequency studies, and that it is absolutely a marching order.
See, now we're getting into a really interesting territory here, George, because...
I think our audience agrees that there are elements within our governments that really don't want us to know much about human history.
Exactly.
They want us to focus on right now, like be excited about this election or this brand or this celebrity or this movie, but don't think about where you came from.
It gets shallower and shallower and shallower and shallower, what the common thinking is.
And that's what we're trying to be an antidote to that.
That's what the Comet Summit's all about.
And one of the important parts of it is people who get interested in unconventional history and other subjects that your audience may share, You end up, it's kind of a lonely pursuit.
A lot of times you're sitting around looking it up late at night with your eyes bleeding watching YouTube, if they've still got anything good on YouTube, right?
Or a rumble.
And maybe some of your neighbors share your interests, but probably not.
What we do at the summit, let's all get together.
So we had 600 people in Greensboro from over, I think, 20 countries.
They actually got to start saying over 25 countries and 43 U.S. states.
And those people came because it's good to be with people who are like minded and share these rather esoteric interests.
And they came from every walk of life.
It is an absolutely fantastic crowd.
I encourage people to come to the live event itself, get a good taste by buying the live Find the live stream at Brighty on You, and you can see what's waiting for you next year if you want to come to the summit.
It's a lot of fun.
That's a great idea.
Yeah.
Let me give the website again.
Brightyou.com is where people go to register.
And if you're curious about what all this is about, folks, just register and watch it for free.
And if you then love it, you can both – you can attend next year's summit.
And that's in – where is it again?
Greensboro, North Carolina.
Okay, so North Carolina.
You know what?
Maybe we can work out a discount for people who buy the live stream.
We'll talk about that offline.
Yeah, that sounds like a great idea.
Yeah, we're going to be getting the emails and then we can apply a discount.
We'll see if we can work something like that out.
But folks, if you can't go to North Carolina, you can purchase the summit from this year and download all the files, you know, and support Brighton University.
But there's multiple ways that you can experience this.
And I think, you know, our audience, George, they're high IQ, very curious people and very open-minded.
And they know we're lied to constantly.
We've been lied to by the corporate media.
We've been lied to by, you know, the economists and the historians.
They know we've been lied to.
So, if you're seeking truth, you know, there are many different rabbit holes to go down.
This is one of the most interesting ones.
This is the truth about our past.
There are all sorts of different levels of truth that your audience is interested in.
And this is where you go look at the deepest understandings of the human past and where we, things may have been manipulated and we've been sold a bill of goods on what really happened.
That actually, our good book is true and the The origin stories of 350 cultures around the world that say there was a grand catastrophe, that they are not taken seriously.
Those indigenous people are not taken seriously.
Our book is not taken seriously.
Well, at the Cosmic Summit, we take it seriously, and we've got over 20 hours of content if people are interested at Bright U. That's amazing.
Now, let me go back to Gobekli Tepe for a minute.
Who was the researcher, you said, who's really studying that right now and doing the digs?
We've got two.
Ben Van Kirkwijk, right?
Okay.
I went to Gobekli Tefi with April of 23, so last year, a little bit more than a year ago.
Okay.
Now, is that in modern-day Turkey?
It is.
Okay.
It is.
It's outside of Senlurfa, Turkey, the ancient Urfa of the Bible.
Okay.
Right?
And it is an absolutely astonishing place, but what happened, it shocked me.
As it should have.
It shocked archaeology 20 years ago when they found it.
And they said, my God, this is megalithic.
In other words, large, heavy, carved stone building.
And it was 7,000 years before anything of that kind had been noted.
Right?
So wait, in terms of actual calendar time, we're talking about like 9,000 BC, something like that?
No, it would have dated right to the Younger Dryas.
So it would be around 11,600 is when they covered it up.
Whoa, okay.
Then it would have been another 6,000 years until Stonehenge, for instance.
Unbelievable.
So that really pushed back the timeline of...
So then, I mean, the obvious questions are, right, where did they get the technology to build these structures, to design them, to move the rocks, to even know, you know, how do you quarry the rocks?
I mean, you know?
That's right.
And where were they quarried?
That's a good question at that site.
We did a lot of work on quarries.
But, you know, nobody knows it better than Ben and also Hugh Newman.
So you've got two Gobekli Tepe presentations from the absolute cutting edge understanding of people who have spent weeks and weeks on site.
We've interviewed all the major players, have gone out and seen that there's a whole constellation of sites there.
It's not just Good Buckley Tepe.
I think it's up to 50 or more of those have been found, which is supposed to be one of the most unique, you know, the unique premier archaeological site in the world.
It turns out it's one of dozens and dozens and dozens.
And that's only come to light the last few years.
So let me ask you this then, and I apologize for just...
I'm doing cognitive whiplash here in so many different directions, but the teaching that I'm doing of the Bible is actually...
You could call it nutritional archaeology.
I'm talking about the foods and herbs of the Bible.
Interesting.
Because my background is like food science and disease.
So like today I did a sermon on the pomegranate, right?
Okay.
Pomegranate, native to the Mediterranean, native to the region, mentioned in Exodus, mentioned in Deuteronomy, and so on.
And it's medicine, and it's a dye for leather and all kinds of things.
My question to you, George, is...
Does anything come to mind about the archaeological evidence of, you know, fruits or foods, any carvings that allude to, you know, botanicals from long ago?
Well, I'll tell you, at Gobekli Tepe, it used to be that widely agreed that there was no domestication there, first of all.
That there, you know, wasn't housing that they didn't live there.
Now, that's been changing somewhat, but that's still largely the case that looks like some type of ceremonial site.
Well, what did they do at that ceremonial site?
At one location, they found thousands and thousands of deer bones.
Oh, wow.
So they were having a huge barbecue out there.
For sure.
And if I had a chance to study, I could look back at the papers and see what they found of the You know, vegetables and whatnot, what other kinds of things, but I know that there were gigantic feasts at this site, where people came from, you know, probably hundreds of miles around.
Now, the strange thing is, there are, again, dozens of these sites.
Did we happen, the very first one we found happened to be the main site, or were there all sorts of locations that hosted these kind of feasts?
I think it's also important to note that the agriculture was born at that Younger Dryas event, again, the grand catastrophe of 12,800 years ago that our team has discovered and published, that it is immediately followed by agriculture.
Okay?
And I mean immediately.
Last year, he didn't return this year because he's probably got better things to do, but maybe we can get it back in last year.
We had the leading archaeologist in the world, Dr.
Andrew M.T. Moore, And if you want to Google Andrew Moore, you'll see that he's both the recent past president of the American Archaeological Institute, which is the largest association of archaeologists in the world, that he supports the fact that there was a catastrophe, despite his colleagues not.
But he also, he made his name discovering the earliest site of agriculture and animal domestication.
Which is about 100, 150 miles from Gobekli Tepe.
Oh, no kidding.
Yes.
And what happened...
Oh my gosh, the name of the site is escaping me right now.
It'll come to me in just a second.
But he had found that in 1972.
There was a crisis archaeology.
They're going to build a big dam in Syria.
And so he went in with Yale University, excavated the site, took all the materials back, et cetera, and so forth.
What he didn't understand was they had also found evidence for the catastrophe because the burn layer is there.
There is melted glass on bone where something so hot and so sudden happened to that village that it melted sand into glass and onto bone.
It also created phytoliths, you know, which you can actually see the remains of vegetable...
Pieces and parts of vegetables and plants.
But more importantly, he told us, so he discovered the earliest agriculture there and is known for that.
Then he discovered the catastrophes.
Because he reanalyzed the sediment profiles and the geochemistry of the site with our team and said, oh my gosh, here I am in my 70s and I discovered that my site of 50-some years, I missed it.
There was a catastrophe here.
So I said, Dr.
Moore, how soon after the catastrophe did agriculture start?
And he said, immediately, son, there's a breath.
He said, immediately.
And I said, what do you mean immediately?
He said, the first inhabitants that came back to the village, because they left before the catastrophe, they knew something was coming.
You don't find any human bones there.
But right after the catastrophe, they come back and they change the way they live.
How would they have known something was coming, by the way?
Don't know.
That's what Dr.
Moore told me.
Sorry.
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I'm actually injured right now and got my foot off so I can't really move around.
I got one of these hand things.
I was wondering what just took place there.
Get comfortable.
Do whatever you need to do.
My dog was eating something down on the floor.
I had to snatch the paper from it.
Okay.
No worries.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So more Who is the father of finding agriculture, then realizes there's a catastrophe and then will tell you that something changed.
They went from plucking pears to pulling plows.
But that requires a knowledge base that is significant, right?
You know this.
Organized agriculture is a skill set that you don't just spontaneously come up with.
Usually somebody has to teach it to you.
that they had experimented with it, that they were hunter-gatherers that had some experience with grains and knew that you could spread seeds and have them grow and eat it later.
Yeah.
But maybe they didn't focus on that.
I see.
But apparently, right after the catastrophe, they decided, because those were hard times after that, too.
And there would have been much less game and maybe settling down and growing food and keeping your animals close to you in a pen, etc.
was just a better way to live.
That makes sense.
Yeah, the pressure of not having abundant wild game and wild foods could have driven to domestication.
That makes sense.
Yeah, but you're right.
It is astonishing that, particularly the way he says it, when he said, immediately, son.
I was like, you mean like they came back and started planting seeds?
He said, yes, from any, you know, now, The fidelity is so great to say is the next week.
But the next signs of their activity, who knows how long that was, was them growing and keeping animals.
But what do you suppose was that particular catastrophe?
Is it the same one you're referring to?
Is it the 12,800?
That's right.
Oh, okay.
You're not talking about a different one in this case.
No, no, no, no, no.
The Comet Research Group basically has stuck to the 13,000-year event, or 12-8, actually.
Yeah.
And Talalimam.
There's another one, though, in Alaska, actually, in 38,000 years ago.
So we believe we've been repeatedly encountering these things.
But the one 13,000 years ago was the most dramatic, and it's what led to civilization.
I mean, that is the break between the Pleistocene and the Holocene.
That's where man starts to become man.
And, you know, that's where we start to settle down.
That's where we go from plucking pears to pulling plows.
That's where we change our life ways for good.
And that led to us being the naked ape with the black mirror.
You know?
That's how it works.
Right, from 2001 Space Odyssey.
So what would happen if such an impact, the same impact, were to happen today?
Oh my gosh, I think you could have something much, much less dramatic and it would completely take us down.
That, just as you probably know, we live in a very, very fragile world.
And if you break some of the fundamental bonds like electrical production, communications, refrigeration, etc., and so forth, we're down.
We can't support ourselves.
So I think that you could have events that probably occur every 500 to 1,000 years, which is far more frequent than NASA would tell you or admit to.
But there is reason to believe that Every 500 to 1,000 years, we get pummeled pretty good.
And if that happened today, it'd be lights out.
Period.
So let me ask you this.
If that were to happen, and future archaeologists were digging and looking at the layer of today, what would they call it?
Like the plastic era?
Well, I think that they would say, well, it seems...
20 or 30 years before 2024, they stopped reading books, they stopped writing letters, they stopped taking notes because, you know, none of our information is in a preservable form now.
So we're going to be quite the mystery.
The recent years are going to be entirely mysterious.
But I would think they would believe we're the people of concrete because we're going to leave a lot of man-made rock around.
That's true.
And I think most of your metal and your iron and all that stuff, it wears away, it disintegrates.
But I think you're going to have a lot of little black chunks from roads.
I would imagine that deteriorates pretty well after time.
But big concrete structures, I think in 5,000 years you'll still be able to Tell they were here, and they'll know that they were big people who enjoyed building stadiums, although they might not know the rules of football.
Yeah, and a lot of highway overpasses and things like that that could probably survive.
Like, wow, they love to build these structures.
They were obviously worshipping, you know, the highway gods or whatever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Absolutely, man.
But I don't know.
It scares me how fragile we are.
Yeah.
Actually, I'm more concerned about the sun.
Even though I'm kind of an impact nerd and spend most of my time on that and think it's very, very important.
But I think that they're outbursts from the sun that are even more frequent than 500 to 1,000.
Well, we just had another one fairly recently that was on the scale.
It could have been another Carrington event, but it didn't hit us directly, so it wasn't.
But yeah, these are happening all the time in different directions, right?
Yeah, absolutely.
I think in 2012, there was one that absolutely would have taken us out.
It was just pointed the wrong way.
Right.
Right?
So I find that horrifying.
And, you know, if we could just, you know, divert some of the money into that that we spend on some of the senseless things, it wouldn't cost a lot.
And there's a big payoff to surviving the sun.
Yeah, really good point.
And also, well, the electromagnetic pulse effects of solar flares, I think you're referring to that as well, and how it can take down modern society.
But you're right, society is very, very fragile, so I think it's wise.
What you're doing with the Cosmic Summit is relevant to today.
This isn't just history.
This is trying to understand what happened to previous civilizations because it may happen to us.
That's right.
I mean, the story of man is supposed to be this continuous progress, you know, up a steady slope of increasing competence and technical capabilities, when actually I think that we're set back rather dramatically from time to time.
And, you know, the Bronze Age collapse, I'm reading a book about it right now, 1,200 B.C., There are some people that found evidence that some of that might be related to impacts.
But every culture of the Bronze Age, you know, the Mycenaeans and the Assyrian cultures, they all collapsed in a house of cards at the same time.
Due to the Sea Peoples, they think, you know, that it was invaded by people.
But what initiated that?
And there's, again, also some soil evidence that suggests that there might have been other things that destabilized it, and those weren't normal fires.
You know, everything's gone in fire.
Well...
There might have been some fires, but they might have come from above.
Well, it's very interesting that even in our modern world right now, we see rapid depletion of agricultural soils, for example.
Rapid depletion of aquifers, water aquifers that are used for irrigation.
It's not difficult to project 20 to 50 years in the future for North America and realize that much of the so-called breadbasket will be desert.
You know, I mean, that's not even out there.
That's mainstream science, you know.
Well, you know, we've got some good news at the Cosmic Summit, too.
And that was a little deviation in the program this year.
We included experts in plasma technologies and cold fusion.
Oh, great.
Love it.
Energy nuclear reactions, yeah.
Yeah, we had Malcolm Bendall.
Remember, he came on your program once, right?
Yeah.
And he's an interesting fellow and a real handful that I've gotten to know him through Randall Carlson.
So we had Malcolm come and the thunderstorm generate.
He actually had the device there and ran it out in the parking lot to the joy of hundreds of people.
I mean, it was incredible.
It was just a great sideshow out there as he ran the device.
But he also gave a five-and-a-half-hour lecture with two other experts, one that people should pay particular attention to, named Bob Grenier.
And Bob has several hours on the Brideon offerings that are coming up.
And Bob is the world's kind of premier independent cold fusion researcher and documentarian and physical experimentalist.
Bob doesn't talk about anything that he doesn't do, see, or make.
Yes.
And he's seen a lot.
And it is apparent, whether it's manifested in Bendahl's machine or not, that there's another world of physics that involves plasma.
And that's a good world.
And we want that to come forward.
That can be an antidote to most of this.
That could be...
The reason we include it in the summit is because Malcolm and Bob, excuse me, tie it directly back to the knowledge of the ancients.
See, this is very interesting to me because we know that in our modern era, knowledge of cold fusion, or now known as low-energy nuclear reactions, has been systematically suppressed.
You know, since 1989, the Fleischman and Ponds experiment, University of Nevada, Salt Lake City, I believe.
But since then, you know, the experiments have been replicated in hundreds of labs around the world.
It's just that apparently the composition of, I don't know if they call it the cathode, but the composition of it, the specific metals and the fissures are like really critical to making this low energy fusion take place, right?
Yeah, yeah.
It's a very squirrely technology.
Yeah, squirrely.
That's the right word for it.
But the cover-up has been very real because, think about it, folks, if you could take just heavy water from the ocean and you could turn it into energy, you know, mass becomes energy.
You need a few drops of water to power your house for, you know, a year or what have you.
I haven't done the math on that, but it's not much mass, okay?
You get a lot of energy out of a little bit of mass.
Then think about how that disrupts The structure of modern society, the energy systems, the oil industry, military, and nations.
Like, what if oil in the Middle East were suddenly economically obsolete?
What would that do?
Highly disruptive, right?
Yeah, from playing around in cold fusion, I think about that stuff all the time.
And I've got a front row seat with a A company that's doing it now.
Yes.
And we're a very quiet company.
No website or anything.
I've also got Malcolm and I've traveled with Bob.
You know, we went to India this year.
We went to Zurich and whatnot.
Spent a lot of time with Bob Grenier.
And it seems to be that we're on the threshold of what we say at the summit, a new dawn of an old age.
Oh, yes.
That they had access to these understandings, and it's actually encoded in the iconography of ancient people everywhere, particularly the Indians.
Interesting.
The math demonstrated by some of their art indicates that they knew of these physical phenomena.
So that's what tied it to our study of ancient history.
But then it is a modern technology.
What are its prospects?
They seem to be very good.
I think we've never been closer.
So, you know, you've got the two sides of the scale that we're always wrestling with.
I know your audience, just like me, you can get worn down by thinking that all the indicators are negative and the future is going to be negative.
But there are stirrings of wondrous technologies out there that may still shake things up and give us a chance.
Well, I would say, you know, in reaction to that, I think you're accurate with that statement.
But just like you said, the great impact led to or forced the people to develop agriculture.
So it is through these crisis events that humanity actually leaps forward.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
But I think our leap was so dramatic this time that maybe we have escape velocity.
Yeah, I like that term.
Yeah, and we're kind of the antidote to this trauma that Earth said, damn it, I'm not taking that again.
Take these guys.
I'm going to take my smartest monkeys and put them on the case, right?
Or something of that nature, and that we are here to keep that from happening again.
Or it'd be a terrible, terrible waste.
The last 12,000 years of progress not to have given us the tools to hopefully do something about this, whether that being interplanetary or actually taking protective measures themselves.
Yeah, well said.
So there's so much for people to explore and learn in this special packaging of the Cosmic Summit.
Just want to remind our viewers again, this is one you absolutely do not want to miss.
It begins streaming, I believe it's a Saturday, August 31st.
You can register now.
And you can register at brightu.com.
Just the word bright followed by the letter U. Free to watch.
You're going to be just fascinated.
Remember that each episode goes in a continual loop for 24 hours.
And the next day, the next episode loops and so on.
Or again, you can buy the entire package.
George, is there anything else you want to add to this?
Like the bonus items.
What do people get if they purchase it with the bonuses?
Yeah, well, the bonus episodes, we got two Randall Carlson classrooms.
Oh, Timothy Hogan, who is the Grand Master of the Knights Templar, right?
He's the number one Freemason relic Templar in the world.
He has some incredible reservations.
How'd you get a guy like that to speak at your event?
I've got a pretty good Rolodex, and it's getting better all the time.
But now we've got Scott Walter, you know, who of America unearthed.
Remember the television program where the Hooked X and the Kensington Stone in Minnesota and the Evidence for the Vikings coming over?
We've got hours and hours brought in you from Tim.
I mean, from Scott, who spoke last year, and he is a good friend of Tim because they are both Masons.
I see.
Five degree Masons.
I just can't believe it's like you have a Templar Grandmaster Freemason speaker?
Yeah, because they believe in Atlantis.
They believe in Atlantis.
Okay.
And I didn't know that.
I didn't know that either.
I've never heard that before.
Yeah, both my grandfathers were highly ranked Templars.
To my amazement, I can't imagine those two old fogies.
They were wonderful guys, but they're a different generation.
But they were in there studying rites that had been passed down from the Atlanteans.
Really?
And that is exactly what Hogan will tell you in his thing.
Yeah, the memoirs were preserving something even earlier than them.
And that goes all the way back to the beginning where it's an enlightened understanding of man's fallen nature and how we organize ourselves to move forward despite all being schmucks.
And if you properly calibrate the human society as they hope to do in the new Atlantis, which they will tell you is America, that the Freemasons established America as that new Atlantis.
Really?
Well, I want to hear what he's got to say about all of that, because America's in trouble.
It is.
And America's turned against God, and I'm just afraid that God's going to send more space rocks to slap us down here until we get the word, you know?
I'm looking forward to a new dawn of an old age.
Okay.
All right.
Well, we'll keep it positive.
But by the way, folks, keep an open mind.
I mean, listen to what these people have to say and then make up your own decision of whether it resonates with you.
And George, we're out of time.
I apologize.
But man, what a great discussion.
And thank you for making this available.
Hey, just note, real quickly, we're across all the major platforms at Cosmic Summit, and you can get a taste for what's going to be in those videos if you go on Instagram or God help you TikTok or Facebook or YouTube, that we are all the way out there at anything that says Cosmic Summit.
So join us on there and join us the 31st and buy that series.
You will be glad you did.
Love it.
All right.
Outstanding.
Thank you so much, George.
Great conversation.
Please, would you ping me if you run across any evidence of archaeological foods or superfoods or like medicinal foods?
Because that's what I'm really focused on.
I certainly will.
I'd be proud to.
Thank you so much.
I'm going through the book, The Herbs of the Bible, from the late Dr.
James A. Duke.
I don't know if you've heard of him.
He passed away in 2017, but he used to grow all the ancient herbs of the Bible.
And I interviewed him about 15 years ago, but sadly he's passed away.
So I'm just trying to continue what he was talking about.
Go back and share it again, man.
I'll look it up.
Okay.
Thank you so much, George.
Thank you, Mark.
Okay.
Take care now.
And thank all of you for watching today.
I hope you found this really fascinating.
Again, register at brightu.com to watch the entire Cosmic Summit special package of speakers, including Randall Carlson.
And you don't want to miss that.
And apparently, Tim Hogan, a Templar Grand Master, who talks about the new Atlantis.
Okay, I've got to watch that.
Let's find out what that's all about.
But thank you for watching today.
All right, everybody.
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