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Aug. 19, 2024 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Interview with MONTALK on decoding the Matrix Control System to free your mind
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All right, welcome to today's episode of Decentralized TV hosted here at Brighteon.com, the free speech video platform.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.
As you saw there, I'm in Texas, and we love Texas.
And we also love freedom and liberty.
And our guest today is a very, very special guest.
But first, let me bring in my co-host, Todd Pitner.
Welcome, Todd.
Are you looking forward to today's interview or what?
Absolutely.
Oh, man.
You know I am.
You know I am.
This was referred to me by somebody within Telegram, and then as I started to research, I'm like, oh, my God, where's he been all our lives?
I know.
Mike, this is going to be amazing.
I know.
This is like the fifth guest we've had that once you learn about it, you're like, oh my gosh, how did I not know about this person before?
Exactly.
Exactly.
All right.
Well, let's bring him in because he's got a lot to cover here.
His name is Tom Montauk and his website is Montauk, M-O-N-T-A-L-K dot net.
Welcome, Tom, to the show today.
Hey, thanks, guys.
Thanks for having me on.
I'm really happy to be here.
Well, we are thrilled to have you here.
You got a cool background there with the Aurora going on.
So maybe we can change ours.
Hey, guys, change mine to like a cosmic astronomical background.
Then we'll match.
Okay, we'll just do that real time.
Hey, guys, change my brick to pink and purple, guys.
Change the color of the bricks.
We'll get it going.
No, I'm sorry, Tom.
We have fun here in addition to covering deep topics.
And so thank you for putting up with us and our twisted sense of humor.
But at Montauk.net, you cover a lot of fascinating topics, and let's start with a very basic one that I think our audience understands, which is that...
Most people, even ourselves to some extent, we're not living in, quote, reality.
We're living in perceptions and narratives.
And many people, many people are living in such a twisted artificial version of reality that it doesn't even resemble.
It has no connection to the real world.
What would you say, Tom, about this whole movement right now where people are further and further away from reality with just everything's made up in their world?
What do you call that?
What do you say about that?
Well, it's unfortunate because people are living in an alternate reality, essentially.
And an alternate reality, well, what is it?
It is something that is divorced from objective reality, which is kind of ironic because if you look at Hindu mythology and a lot of the Eastern traditions, they say that even what we call objective reality is ultimately an illusion.
So how far gone do you have to be where not only are you removed from From the greater source, but also from reality itself in this artificial construct that has been programmed into you by society, your biology, media programming, school, everything like that.
And unfortunately, nowadays, some people are so turned around that if reality ever does hit them in the face, it's going to be an extremely rude awakening.
Well, I call it the Truman Show scenario that we're living in.
Of course, reference to that movie with Jim Carrey from many years ago, where this man named Truman lived in this world.
He didn't realize it was a giant studio set.
It was a giant dome over him.
And the stars were painted on the dome.
And the sun and moon were all artificial.
But they used fear to keep him there.
When he tried to drive across a bridge to escape his town, they said, oh, there's been a radiation leak.
Roads closed.
Or he tried to sail across the water.
They brought in the wind and the rain.
You're going to die.
You're going to drown.
And then they programmed him with a story that his father drowned to make him afraid of water.
Isn't that really almost exactly what's happening to many of us today as well?
Well, it's interesting because you can look at it from different levels.
You can look at it from the merely socio-political programming level where, for example, people are turned around on the ideas of, let's say, self-defense or what democracy truly means.
A lot of people assume that democracy just means being the will of the people over everything, which is more like mob rule, democracy, but we really have a constitutional republic.
That's right.
A lot of people ignore that, right?
But it can go even beyond the socio-political level where Once you get into the metaphysical fields of, let's say, synchronicity or, in Christianity, the idea of spiritual warfare, that's when you start realizing that the deception and the manipulation goes even beyond our social programming and goes straight into the level of The manipulation of probability and reality and thoughts and emotions and our beliefs at a very deep level.
And that's something that some people simply aren't aware of.
So that's what I love to cover on my website is a lot of the elements of what people would call spiritual warfare, how that works, how people can recognize it, how they can overcome it.
But I mean, essentially, you know, the issue is that as conscious beings, when we are born here, we don't really come with a very strong frame of reference for what is true or what is false.
I mean, there's a little bit of it that is inscribed in our spirit, you could call it, but so much of it is beat out of us through our social programming, and therefore by the time people become adults, they are just simply too held down and laden down by all their abuse and trauma and things that have been projected onto them by society in terms of what society actually wants,
that they've lost their own innate sense of spiritual values, and therefore they end up betraying their own conscience, and towards the end of their life, you know, they end up regretting How much they have compromised themselves.
So that's an unfortunate side effect of being here in this world, that in order to essentially be almost like a video game avatar within a fake reality, in order to have certain experiences and to interact with each other through these bodies, we end up losing so much of who we are.
And so a big deal behind spirituality and spiritual education is simply remembering more of who you are and sticking to those values and then working with others to build those values back.
Well, you took us in the deep end instantly right here at the beginning of the show, but thank you for that, Tom.
Todd, it's your turn to jump in.
Obviously, this is going to be a great interview.
I can tell already.
Tom Montauk.
Wow.
Montauk.net.
And for those of you, I highly recommend you go to Telegram, and that's t.me forward slash Tom Montauk.
M-O-N-T-A-L-K. So, first of all, I just want to say to our viewers, Mike, welcome.
Welcome to Episode 1 of 125 with Tom Montauk because when speaking with Tom...
One hour isn't going to get the job done.
Heck, I think 100 hours is just scratching the surface.
But hey, any journey begins with the first step.
So, Tom, you break my brain.
Welcome to the show.
I have an opening two-part question for you.
I mean, I'm sorry, a softball question, just to get things going easy.
Okay, Tom?
Who are the higher beings that created our reality, and when did the game get corrupted, and by what force?
Wow.
Is it the warm-up questions?
Oh, I was saving that for an hour later.
Okay.
All yours, Tom.
Yeah, sure.
So that is the ultimate question that even the Christian Gnostics were asking 2,000 years ago.
And so the Gnostics, they were considered heretics because they didn't subscribe to the dogma of the Church at the time.
But the thing about the Gnostics, though, is that they did a lot of their own investigations and their own research.
And that way they were able to bypass a lot of the censorship and, frankly, propaganda that was being propagated by the early church elders.
So anyway, so the Gnostics, what they believed, and this is something that's in agreement with Eastern mysticism as well.
And even the Bible itself, if you look at the gospel and how they said that in the beginning there was darkness and God said, let there be light.
So if you want to really zoom out to the ultimate level, you would pretty much have to assume that reality, based on all the evidence that we have, if you research the paranormal, metaphysics, spirituality, eschatology, Christianity, if you research all that, then you find that at the very beginning there was nothing but an infinite then you find that at the very beginning there was nothing but an In other words, the void or darkness.
And from this darkness, there was contained within it already a field of consciousness, which we would call God, which is just infinite, loving, creative intelligence, but it wasn't yet fully expressed.
And so in this point, in order for this infinite unified consciousness to experience more of itself, to experience its own infinite potential, it seems that it projected itself into an infinite variety of finite beings, which is us and other life forms, and we pursue an infinite variety of finite paths.
Now the issue is, in order for this all to even have a purpose, in order for the infinite creator, for God to have a purpose in creation, There has to be some sort of novelty or originality to it.
See, because the thing is, if God already knew every single thing that would ever end up happening, then there would be nothing new, and it would already be known the very moment God thought of it.
So in order to have anything new, God therefore endowed beings with free will.
And what free will is, free will is the option to do something that cannot be predicted ahead of time because it is truly yours.
It is truly a free thing.
So free will is the fundamental condition that allows novelty and originality and therefore adventure, excitement, risk, the entire shebang to happen.
But here's the problem.
If beings are given free will, then they also have the ability to choose against God itself or himself.
They have the ability to go against even the greater good of others, or even themselves.
You know, they can engage in self-harm, they can engage in exploiting others.
And so the issue is, what God was projecting into, which is like the void, like darkness, unknowing, you know, the rest of unmanifested existence, It's almost like sometimes beings would choose that instead of the light.
So they chose darkness instead of light.
They chose to ignore their inner god spark and to ignore the god spark within others and to merely feed off others and take on the qualities, let's say, of matter itself.
You know, the way of the jungle, the limitations of matter.
It's almost like they incorporated it into themselves and therefore adopted...
It's almost like they corrupted their spirituality, their spiritual component of their being...
With the limited, programmed, dog-eat-dog nature of matter.
And therefore, what should have been creations of God, children of God, it seems like some of them chose the path of darkness and predation.
And this could have happened an extremely long time ago.
And unfortunately, the others who did not choose that path, or maybe didn't evolve to the level of power that they had, they were preyed upon.
So for example, there are many myths talking about how On Earth, you know, humans were created, but at some point, either they became evil or other beings came in and corrupted them.
So, for example, in the Garden of Eden, where the serpent entered the garden and tempted Eve to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
And then she convinced Adam to also eat from that tree.
Now, the Garden of Eden myth is very interesting because, you know, you can take it literally or you can take it symbolically.
But if you take it symbolically, then what it speaks to is the idea that There was an outside negative force.
In other words, beings that had taken the path of matter and darkness.
And they did something that tempted us into basically going into their realm of leaving the Garden of Eden and entering a realm of, well, what the Bible says, which is knowledge of good and evil.
And you can't really know evil unless you experience it straight up.
So, when you're expelled from the Garden of Eden and you enter the so-called wilderness...
Then now you are in the realm of the beasts.
Now you are in the realm of the jungle.
The law of the jungle.
Doggy dog.
And so now, here we are as humans in this world where clearly there are good people.
There are very predatory, sociopathic, psychopathic people, as you all know.
And in life, whether even in our own family or at work or even at school when we were kids, we were confronted with A very strong contrast between goodness and darkness, whether it's bullies, sociopaths, psychopaths, or people who ended up becoming good friends and were helping each other out, right?
So the interesting thing is that whether we look within ourselves, within, let's say, our own ego or spirit versus our lower shadow impulses, or whether we look at in the world itself with the various elites that are in power.
Well, some of them, you know, maybe they have good intentions, but a lot of them are not.
You know, a lot of them have psychopathic, psychopathic traits.
And even if you extend it further into the realm of ufology, so with the realm of alien extraterrestrial type beings, a lot of people believe that even amongst them, there is a dichotomy or a duality between the more positive and the more negative.
So it seems to me that the schism between light and darkness, it originated very early at the very conception of this existence, of this reality, where due to free will, some beings were able to choose darkness over light for their own selfish interests because they were confused and ignorant, and they made a very strong profession or art form out of it.
And they might have had eons, multiple eons, to perfect their art.
And civilizations like ours are possibly under their manipulation to a large extent.
Well, yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
Sorcery at work.
But you mentioned something in that.
And by the way, thank you.
We were both just fascinated by what you just said.
Tracks perfectly.
But let's go back to free will, though, for a second.
Because so much of Western civilization and what has become Western science is based on the mechanistic view of the universe, which excludes the existence of free will because nothing is possible in their view unless it has a physical or biochemical cause, right?
So it's very interesting to me that those...
Again, this is also very characteristic of Western civilization.
It hasn't been this way across most of the world for most of human history as we know it.
But in modern Western civilization, the very people who claim that there is really no free will...
And that consciousness is an emergent property illusion of complex neurology.
They themselves are admitting that they are biological robots.
So you have this entire segment of society that say, we believe in science.
We trust the science.
We're going to take the jabs.
We're going to rule over you as the science priests.
You have to believe in us, not God, not free will.
They themselves think they are robots.
What does that tell you about what Western civilization or Western science in particular has come to?
See, that's a big question because my background is in physics and electrical engineering.
So the question of free will, see a lot of people, they argue it on the basis of, let's say, philosophy and religion.
Like, do we have free will based on that?
But what I like to do is I like to go to the very deep down fundamentals, which is physics, and even deeper to the level of quantum physics.
So earlier when I mentioned how free will is a quality that allows you to do something that cannot be predicted and therefore not be fully controlled, well in quantum physics it has been found that even subatomic particles like electrons or protons or photons, okay, even subatomic particles Their behavior simply cannot be predicted.
Even like one little particle, they can't predict exactly what it will do next.
Superposition too, yes.
Yes, right, right.
Because these particles exist in a state of superposition, which is almost like when you have a choose your own adventure book and you have the book just sitting in your hand.
Right.
Well, that book, all the different outcomes are in superposition.
It's not until you read it that you get a particular pathway through all those possibilities.
So likewise, even an electron is in a state of superposition between different possibilities, and that's all that they can calculate.
They can only calculate the probabilities of what it might do, but not what it actually will do.
The orbital clouds, Heisenberg's uncertainty principle, exactly.
Precisely, yeah.
And the reason why I bring this up is because even quantum physics admits that not everything can be predicted, and so therefore not everything is absent of free will, or not everything is Mechanistic.
Mechanistic, deterministic.
Exactly.
So if they can't even say that everything is deterministic down there, then how can any biologist or these atheists say that our brain, which is basically a quantum computer antenna, is therefore a deterministic machine when the thing that it runs on, which is quantum physics, is itself non-deterministic.
They're not even going deep enough to look at their own science to make it fit.
And that's just one level.
And there's a whole other level of that.
Which is that free will is an expression of a non-material soul simply interfacing with the biochemical brain, but it's the non-material that drives the brain's action as a result of the, let's say, spiritual or soul decisions or inspiration, creativity, artistry.
Even the words we're saying right now, these can't be predicted.
Not accurately.
I mean, statistically, perhaps, but not accurately.
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm trying to get at, which is that even in quantum physics, when they say that they can't predict it, what they mean is they can't predict it based on physical causes.
So they know all the physical factors that might go into it, but they don't know what it'll do next.
Why?
Because there is another factor that is non-physical that is influencing the outcome.
And they don't want to go there.
See, some physicists do.
You know, they admit to, okay, consciousness is the thing that makes it actually happen.
But a lot of them want to take that atheistic route because that's a more politically correct thing to do within academia.
And that's the reason why I actually got out of academia.
I didn't want to go into it because I didn't want to go into that highly politicized field where you have to jump through hoops and compromise truth principles just for the sake of sucking up to the collective consensus.
Yeah.
Music to our ears.
Right, Todd?
For anybody who needs a little bit of translation from the last five minutes, I can give it to you because that's what I do.
And that is that, look, guys and gals, if you want your personal meat puppet to work, you've got to have a soul, which my...
Tom kind of explains Joe Biden, does it not?
Well, we have to have a discussion about non-player characters, because we use that word for NPCs.
Yeah, that was going to be my next line of questioning.
As Mike knows, I have a very dim view on the population at large, and I really do believe in the NPC theory.
But he lives in Florida, just for the record.
So Florida, man, that's talking about his neighborhood.
That's right.
There are two species of us humans.
There are playing characters and non-playing characters, and I know you know what all of that is.
But I want to get your take on it, because for me, it just seems like my operating reality, my video game that I'm That my overlord...
You know, I'm the next version of my overlord's prototype, to use your words that I've heard you say.
You know, I'm his advanced finger meat puppet, if you will.
And he keeps putting quarters in the game of Todd.
And as I'm...
I don't know if he's playing or if I am empowered to play this game.
I feel like I am a playing character...
In this realm, in this game, but I deal with so many people, and 2020 sparked my recognition that I believe that there is another species out there, and I'm kind of kidding, kind of not, that are non-playing characters, meaning they're just programmed by the TV or whatever forces there are in nature, but I don't believe that they critically think, like...
And others I know critically think.
And I just want your take on that.
Am I just being too harsh?
Or could that be, Tom?
No, this is actually something that I... That was one of the things that kicked off my website back in 2001, 2002, when I really got into the subject of what we nowadays call NPCs, or non-playable characters, which are people who are highly scripted, highly programmed.
They can't think for themselves.
They can't critically think.
They only repeat the herd mentality.
So that's what we call NPCs.
But I was researching sociopaths and psychopaths in college back in 2001, 2002.
And when I was doing that, not only did I find psychology articles on that field, But I started getting to very interesting esoteric and occult literature as well, including the ancient Gnostics and what they believed, about how there were three different categories of humans, and how the bottom category, which they called Hilux, were people who is exactly what we're talking about.
People who are only interested in materiality, who cannot think for themselves, who don't seem to have the spark of free will, to be honest.
They don't seem to have the spark of higher intelligence within them.
But you see, the interesting thing is...
They can have PhDs.
They can be intelligent, but they don't have something else.
There's something else missing.
So did you say that these types of people are called Hilux?
That is something that the ancient Gnostics believed that there were these people called Hilux, which they called them Hilux, who were people that were associated with matter.
And then the next level of people up, they called psychics, not like clairvoyant psychics, but more like people who were based in the mind.
And then the highest level they called the pneumatics, because pneuma means spirit in the ancient tongue.
And so they divided humanity into three different levels.
And the bottom level is essentially what we call NPCs nowadays.
So even 2,000 years ago, they were already recognizing it.
Wait a minute.
In America today, we have a level beneath the Hilux.
Maybe it's the Lolix, but it's way beneath.
I mean, we've got just mindless meat puppets, like Todd was saying.
Programmable life forms.
I don't know what these people are, but even when, like, they've abandoned all reason and rationality, and I don't mean, this isn't just, I'm not talking about, you know, political persuasions or whatever, but logic and reason.
You know, like, oh, men can have babies, you know, or let's mutilate these children and call them progressives.
It's like, why, why?
What?
What?
No, exactly.
And that brings up a really good point because you would expect that if someone were merely, let's say, a meat puppet, how they didn't have a higher component within them, if that was all that they were, then they would merely be a product of, you know, some social programming, but a lot of biological programming, so evolutionary programming that would be running on their biological scripts, maybe only seeking to, let's say, reproduce or accumulate wealth or just focus only on materialism because, I mean, that's what survival is from the human standpoint.
But they go beyond that, right?
I mean, they go into the level of almost demonic destructiveness.
Yes.
Which requires a malicious kind of intelligence.
So maybe it's not that they have that malicious intelligence.
Maybe it's that they are being driven by a malevolent intelligence.
Well, so you're talking about, in the Christian world, demonic possession.
Yes.
Yeah, demonic possession.
So, you know...
The thing is, you can have, let's say, a famous author, professor, a doctor, scientist, someone who has been groomed from an early age by what we would call demonic spirits or demonic beings.
And it bends their minds in a certain way where they end up rationalizing that sort of viewpoint and they become instruments of these dark powers, right?
So when they get these positions of prominence, whether being a scientist who gets quoted a lot in these studies, then they become very influential within their field.
And that's one way that this alternate reality that we started out talking about can get founded.
It gets founded by these portals or entryways into society that are ultimately being steered by beings that are not necessarily human.
Wow.
This totally reconciles with scripture, Mike.
I mean, you know, I took that five-year deep dive into biblical exegesis, and at the end, I kind of want to comment on that, because I wanted to ask you some questions, but to me...
The God of the Bible, you know, if God wrote a book, I think we should read it.
And if God is this omnipotent, all-powerful, all-knowing being, I think he has the capacity to divinely inspire a written word, a playbook.
I don't believe that's too far beyond my God, anyway.
And so I want to talk about that in a little bit.
But with what you're saying about this, other beings, negative beings, could be demonic beings, have you done any study of Genesis 6 and the fallen angels and all of that?
Because to me, what you were saying at the beginning, so reconciled, because basically it's God who Breathed into existence all life and it was good.
It was very, very good.
But then there were some of those beings that decided they wanted to be God, and they opted to turn things bad and were admonished, reprimanded, kicked out of heaven, if you will.
But for whatever reason only God knows, they run this realm, I guess.
Scripturally, this world is theirs.
So I personally believe that the evil people in this world that I perceive to be evil, Tom, that they are heavily influenced.
However they open that door to the demonic realm, I believe in demons.
But I also believe in the good guys.
And I'd just love to know from you how much...
What influence do the bad guys and the good angels?
I mean, do you see a lot of angelic intervention, Tom?
Because I've been seeing a lot of the demonic intervention, but I just can't wait for the white hat angels to show up, Tom.
Come on, Tom.
Right.
So, you know, it kind of goes back to the question about if God is so good and so powerful, then why does evil exist?
Right?
That's a whole study within religion itself.
Yeah.
And the obvious answer is that there is free will.
So as I mentioned earlier, if beings are created with free will, then they can turn against creation.
So it's not God that's to blame.
It's the creations themselves who chose to turn against the rest of creation.
They're the ones who did it out of their own free will.
And within the myth or the story, it could be factual or it could be mythological, of the fallen angels...
At some point, they grew proud, they grew jealous, and they wanted to be the crown of creation themselves, but they weren't.
So there was an element already of division in there, and when we talk about jealousy, envy, something like that, that is ego, essentially.
That's what ego is, right?
So you could say that ego is the cause of free will choosing against the light.
And the reason why that is, is because ego is itself a false construct.
It's the idea that you are completely separate from someone else.
And so therefore, it's not a big deal if you manipulate them for your own gain, because at least in your own mind, you are the king of your own realm, so you're the only one that matters to you.
That's how a lot of these beings think.
They think that they're separate from everything, and the world is theirs to take.
but try as they might, they always bump up against that ceiling of the true divine framework, and they can't go against it, so that incenses them even more, and so they develop a chip on their shoulder against divinity itself, and they seek to destroy it wherever they can find it, and that's why a lot of these dark forces, they and they seek to destroy it wherever they can find it, and that's why a lot of these dark forces, they go after children and babies and infants, because the more innocent and the more pure it
So since they can't attack God directly, they can still torture and attack and kill God's children.
So Tom, I mean, truly fascinating.
I've been teaching sermons lately.
I've put out several sermons.
I'm doing over 100 days.
And my view is, and again, we're here to have your reaction and your knowledge to all this, but my view is that people's view of God is way too small.
And one of those, like, your background is in physics and electrical engineering, I think you said, right?
Well, I went to college, my first semester in college was as a double E. And I've said in my sermons that the table of elements is the expression of the mind of God.
And in fact, you know, the orbital clouds of electrons and the characteristics that create gold and silver or platinum or whatever, these are expressions of God.
And much of the history of physics is simply trying to solve the riddle of the laws that God put into motion, right?
Strong nuclear force, weak nuclear force, what have you, right?
And the same thing, chemistry is the study of God's interaction of molecules, or astronomy is the study of the way God engineered the heavens to move.
And so I think God is much bigger than what a lot of people seem to think.
And even the Old Testament, God speaking to the Israelites, right?
And Exodus, the whole chapter, or the book of Exodus, is dated to around 1400 BC. Well, guess what?
At that same time, there was also India civilization.
There was Chinese civilization.
There was Mesoamerican civilization.
Why didn't God talk to those groups?
If he created everything, where is God talking to the other groups?
Is it possible he did talk to those other groups, appearing as other wise men or other beings of knowledge to them, speaking in their language?
Like, can God appear in different ways to different people, in other words?
Yeah, absolutely, because if you think about it, if you have an infinite creator, okay, infinity, There's no way a finite mind can understand infinity without infinity somehow having to filter itself down to be comprehensible to the finite mind.
And so if it's your finite mind as, let's say, an ancient Israelite, it would have to be filtered down into what your Israelite mind can understand versus an Indian mind or a Mesoamerican mind.
So the filtering process is what puts a face on the infinite.
But of course, that leads to wars when all these different groups think that their God is the God and the other ones are all fake, right?
Right.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And especially the ancient Israelites would say, well, our God told us that he is the one and only God.
Therefore, your God is our enemy.
What if it's the same creator being expressed in different ways?
I mean, Todd, I hope I'm not offending you with this talk.
I don't think I am, but some Christians would be offended by this, by the way.
I think it can all be reconciled, frankly, but that takes more than a cursory glance, you know?
But I think you're right.
Well, again, I just think that people think of God in way too small of a measure.
And they don't think about the cosmic interaction.
And, you know, Tom, you were talking about quantum physics.
And quantum physics gets into the multidimensionality of our reality, right?
So it's...
It's not just what we see here, but even information inscribed in atomic physics exists in multiple realities simultaneously.
So God didn't just create this one universe.
He created an infinite number.
Right, yeah.
Exactly.
So it's like, why would you want to limit the conception of God down to a small little template that fits your particular culture when it's almost like you're making God smaller than God actually is?
You know, it's kind of an affront to the infinite goodness and power of divinity to say it can only be one place at one time in one particular way.
Now, see, here's the thing.
It might be possible that some cultures, what they thought was God was actually something else.
I mean, for all I know, it could have been a demon or people who believe in aliens.
They might say it was an alien or something.
And the people at the time having a more unsophisticated culture, they might have mistaken that as a god.
So their god might not necessarily be the same as the Israelite god unless you find commonalities in the values itself.
behaviors expressed amongst all these different divine figures, right?
Because like, if you take the God of the Bible, and you boil all the qualities and traits, all the good traits, especially in the New Testament, if you boil that down to the good traits, you can find those traits in other cultures as well.
And it seems like that then, therefore, is the different masks for the same higher divine intelligence.
Whereas, if you have a more demonic being, then you would find demonic qualities expressed in its values, regardless of what the name given to it is by these ancient civilizations.
Yeah, absolutely.
And do you believe that there are extraterrestrials in our cosmos that have visited Earth and have interacted with either ancient or modern cultures?
You know, to be honest, I do.
And the reason why I say that is because that's how my path started.
So when I was a child in Germany, I had a number of paranormal experiences as a kid.
And it wasn't until later when I started reading all the books in my local library that I realized that they were very likely some...
Something that wasn't purely, it wasn't necessarily demonic, and it wasn't human.
It was something in between.
So something that had a non-human biology and was physical and could actually take me out of my apartment as a child in Germany, take me somewhere else and bring me back, was abducting my mom as well.
And it wasn't spiritual.
See, because when I was a kid, I had other paranormal experiences.
I had ghosts.
I had a giant, like, shadow figure standing behind me one night that scared the crap out of me.
I had these things, and so I could tell the difference between the more non-physical paranormal phenomena and then this other thing, which was more technological.
Now, I know, see, there's a lot of debate about what these so-called aliens actually are.
Some people believe that they're nothing more than demons, whereas others believe that they have a little bit more sophisticated view, which is that they are demons, or let's say fallen angels, who very long time ago they figured out how to create meat suits for themselves.
So they started genetically engineering different races of humans, or not humans, but humanoids, to serve them.
So what we call aliens nowadays are merely the vessels or creations of these fallen angels.
So therefore, they're not identical to the kind of demons that you would encounter under your bed or in the closet at night.
You know, it's not like that.
It's something that's more physical, more tangible, and that has a natural presence underground, you know, other planets, other star systems, because that is the extent to which this evil has spread.
Now, there is, I mean, even the Vatican Church kind of started going down this route where They basically said that, yes, aliens are real, and when you have humanity, let's say humanity right here in the middle, and you've got demons way down here and you've got angels way up here, well, there's another class of beings that are in between humans and angels and humans and demons.
And so this middle class is what we would call hostile aliens or positive aliens.
Now, I have a lot of research.
I mean, I'm a ufologist as well, besides being into science and other topics.
So I've studied the subject extensively, and in my personal opinion, I do believe that there are things like aliens and that they overlap the demonic realm, but not in a one-to-one kind of way.
It's more like a Venn diagram.
We've got one circle here, one circle there.
So there's some overlap here, but they also have their own unique traits as well.
And this isn't really something that you can pick up on unless you do a lot of research, like reading different cases, compiling case after case and extracting all the data in ufology and doing the same thing with demonic possession and hauntings and so on.
And then you start realizing that, yes, you know, there is a connection between the two, but they're not identical.
So I found that interesting.
So a quick follow-up question, and then Todd, I'll turn it over to you.
I'm sorry for this, but something comes to mind very quickly.
There were reports many years ago of so-called UFOs or aliens deactivating nuclear weapons.
Mm-hmm.
As they were launched, right?
So that would qualify in that in-between sort of angelic extraterrestrial category that you just described, which is maybe quote aliens or whatever they are that have a sense of stewardship over Earth.
Is that potentially accurate?
That is potentially one view.
There is some debate on that.
See, on the surface, that's what it looks like, right?
But when it comes to these beings, especially like, as you know, with demons, they are princes of deception.
They know how to lie very well and to project false images.
So when these beings, which we call aliens, you know, because they're non-humans and they've got advanced technology, when they disable, let's say, a nuclear missile, is it because they feel they're doing the right thing?
Or is it because that's the image that they want to project?
That the idea that they are somehow interventionists who will one day if World War III kicks off, and right now it's getting very close to that, but when it kicks off and the nukes start flying, if these beings come in and they disable as nukes and they save the world from nuclear annihilation, well, if they were deceiver beings pretending to be positive, if they were deceiver beings pretending to be positive, then that would work very much in their favor to come off as these saviors when they could in fact be imposters.
So when it comes to ufology or even occult matters like demons contacting a person and pretending to be, I don't know, some particular deity or deceased family member, something that's perceived as positive even though it's actually a demonic being, we can apply that same thing to aliens as well.
In that we have to differentiate between genuine positive types, if they exist, and the negative types that are merely pretending to be positive.
Like Justin Trudeau?
That's a good example.
And remember during the Obama years how his campaign was all about hope and change?
He got the Nobel Peace Prize for doing absolutely nothing.
I mean, that whole manufactured image is a taste.
It's a taste of the kind of deception that these beings would use.
And there have been certain TV shows and movies that have portrayed this, like They Live or the V miniseries from the early 80s, for example, where these extraterrestrials, they show up and they give us new technologies, they come in peace, supposedly, but People discover that there are actually non-humans in disguise and they're very hostile and they're only putting on a fake smile as any con artist or psychopath would do.
Sociopathy and psychopathy, it's not limited to the human realm, obviously, because even in occultism we know that demons are the embodiment of non-physical evil, of non-physical sociopathic and psychopathic traits.
But we also find it within the alien ufology field as well that a lot of these beings are And you can't really trust what they say or what they do.
So, Tom, do you know Mike and I, we coined the new word this last year because we did a little bit of research on You know, some psychopaths and some sociopaths, and we recognize that there are some people who actually carry the characteristics of both.
So what do you think about this?
We came up with the name, with the descriptor, maxiopaths.
Does that ring with you?
That's pretty good.
Maxiopath.
That's the cream of the crop right there.
Hey, Tom, I can't remember what I ate for dinner two nights ago.
And from what I understand, you remember your first week of life in the nursery.
And you, as I understand it, you were out of sorts back then because you knew you had a very specific path in life.
A path that was leading to the light.
Tom, we try to be constructive and bring solutions on this show, so I'd like to discuss how do we find our intended paths of life?
You know, the paths that allow us to float downstream instead of always struggling against life's currents, Tom?
Right.
So, you know, it's one of those things where you have to...
There's this ancient saying, which was written on the temple of Apollo, I think, or was it the temple of Delphi in Greece, which was, know thyself.
You have to know thyself in order to really know what your true values are, in contrast to the values that have been foisted upon you by this alternate reality that we live in, this fake reality construct, right?
Because...
When you come here, as I mentioned earlier, you do come here with a set of values that is inscribed within your spirit.
A lot of it gets overwritten by our social and biological programming and all the traumas that we could put through in life, and then, of course, the media propaganda that tries to ram it down our throats.
But in order to really know who you are, there's really no other way to do it than very deep soul-searching.
Just starting out, you can just get a notebook and write down all the values, all the things that make you happy in life that you truly resonate with at a soul level.
And based on the list, you can start deducing what you're really here to do.
See, because some people, if they've got a list that has to do with, let's say, oh, helping people, helping them heal, guiding them emotionally and nurturing them, well, that puts you on the path more on the path of a healer, for example.
Whereas in my case, if I were to make that list, my list would be exposing darkness, understanding how darkness works, and giving that knowledge to people so that they can not be taken in or fooled by a lot of these methods.
Because a lot of suffering in this world is due to just simple naivete.
See, a lot of people don't realize the extent to which evil exists in this world and the way that it can disguise itself and the way that it can play tricks on the mind.
So anyone who's familiar with the Christian concept of spiritual warfare understands this.
They understand the way in which we can be internally, internally Tempted, subjugated, if we're not careful, be led off the path, right?
Yeah.
Right, so a lot of these, once you know that and once you can see it, then you can do something about it.
And the more free you become, the more you're able to help others free themselves.
So, of course, you always have to help yourself become more empowered before you can do the same for others, because otherwise you're trying to help from a position of weakness, which doesn't really well work, you know?
Do you think, Tom, that our spirits that were kind of pre-programmed, that were hardwired to where we have a path in life that's towards the light, and of course we get off that path, but there are so many times that I find when I try to push the river, so to speak, I'll try an initiative, maybe it's an entrepreneurial endeavor, and it's just like I keep hitting a wall, you know?
And I shouldn't be, I think.
I shouldn't.
But then there are other times where I'm not even trying and things just are so easy peasy.
Is that kind of what you would counsel that we pay attention to those signals from the universe and start to note where it's easy peasy and where we keep, you know, just failing?
Yeah, right.
Because there's always a golden path into the future.
So, of all the different probabilities that you could take into the future, some of them are going to lead to a dead end, just like in the Choose Your Own Adventure book, where it ends only halfway through the book because you fell down a well in the book or something, right?
And then there's other paths that lead all the way to the end, in a happy ending.
And, see, we have...
Some innate abilities within us, for example, conscience, empathy, what makes us truly happy, intuition, which all feeds into discernment and wisdom.
So the more experience you gain in listening to your intuition and your Intellectual judgment and merging the two in a way that makes sense and brings results, the better your inner wisdom becomes and the further you make it, you know, the happier the ending essentially is.
And also earlier, when you brought up the topic of, you know, are there positive beings, are there positive angels helping us out?
Well, that is one way that they do it.
They do it through very subtle means.
Why?
Because they respect free will as much as they possibly can.
So, most of the time, they're not going to show up in our lives the way that some of these dark forces or aliens do, trying to push over our free will and violate it.
No, they don't do that.
They are very mindful of it.
They want us to develop to our full potential on our own strength as much as possible, and then they pick up the slack whenever we can't really meet it.
So the whole idea of meeting God halfway or God helps those who help themselves, well, That idea is encoded in the very ethics or philosophy that these positive beings follow, which is that you respect someone's free will and you help them out in very subtle ways.
And if the person chooses to listen to their intuition, to listen to the signs, to listen to their inspired judgment, you could say, then it's like the divine working with the human element hand-in-hand toward a positive outcome.
So yeah, we definitely do have to pay attention to the subtleties, especially our inner voice.
Because it's not just our own judgment.
It's actually, a lot of times, it's higher things that are speaking into us, into our hearts.
And when he's speaking to our hearts and we listen to our heart, then that way we can hear them.
You listen through your heart.
That's how you hear the voice of God, essentially.
Could this explain...
The notion of reincarnation to where if you are living a life and you're collecting the good, the bad, the ugly, and whatnot, and then let's just say reincarnation existed, somebody put another quarter in your game, and you're able to go down the path again, but this time we seem a little bit smarter because it's almost like we've been there, done that, bought the t-shirt, not going to go down that path.
We're going to go down this path.
Then maybe you get a little further in life.
Could that, because I heard you talking about reincarnation, I was just fascinated by the analogy that it's kind of like a game, and you called it, I believe, Overlord, like I'm my Overlord's prototype, his advanced finger puppet, and he keeps putting quarters in the game of Todd.
And so, is that reincarnation, Tom, in your point of view?
Well, I'd like to point out, you know, that even within Christianity, in the very early days, there were certain scriptures that had reincarnation in it, but it didn't fit the rest of the consensus at the time.
It was left out of the Bible, so that's why within the Bible you don't really find too many hints or notions of reincarnation, except for maybe like Elijah and Jesus and just some controversy surrounding that, right?
But other belief systems like Hinduism, they're all about that, and Buddhism and so on.
And certain Native American beliefs also deal with transmigration of the soul, which is another term for reincarnation.
So the way that I put it is that imagine...
Imagine that your true beingness, your true beingness is, I think you called it overlord, but I think in that source that I talked about, I think I called it oversoul, but same thing.
Oversoul, yes, oversoul, correct.
Yes, so the oversoul, imagine it's like a hand, okay, and the hand has individual fingers, and it can dip a finger into 3D reality, be born as a baby, live as a life, and then after death, it extracts from the body and then unifies back with the hand.
And then in the next life, it takes all the things that it has gained from the prior life.
The wisdom, the strength, the lessons learned, the way that it changed, and that element of it.
And it uses that to project, let's say, another finger into the next life.
So this next finger then dips down, has life, and so on, right?
And with each iteration, this hand becomes increasingly more spiritually luminous, more wise, more strong, more able to resist the challenges that even matter presents.
So it's a way for, I think it's a way for the projections of the infinite creator, which is what the hand would be, to explore itself in even more diverse ways by projecting your fingers or projections into human life form.
So, you know, it's not that necessarily that you, Todd, or you, Mike, are the sole projection of God.
It might be that you are more the projection of a projection of a projection that is here right now.
But it all traces back, you know, it's like maybe you're the stream of a tributary of a river of an ocean.
But it's all consciousness.
Well said.
Let me jump in here and just remind our viewers of your book.
It's called Gnosis, or one of several books.
This one, I think you're best known for this book.
Gnosis, Alchemy, Grail, Arc, and the Demiurge.
How do you pronounce that?
Yeah, Demiurge, that's correct.
Demiurge, okay, a Gnostic treatise on spirituality and so on, and alien technology.
So that's available at Amazon and booksellers everywhere.
In addition, montauk.net is the primary website where people can connect with you.
Now, I've been dying to ask you this question.
Well, since we're talking about reincarnation, I shouldn't probably say that.
My overlords are...
That's an ominous term there to bring in, Todd.
Oversoul.
What about altering the rules of the matrix through conscious intention?
So the power of speech, right?
So here we are.
Let's say we're in a simulation.
We are a projection of a great mind of the creator's soul personified in this tiny slice of the bigger existence.
But we are not powerless, obviously.
Not only do we have free will, but don't we also have some ability to imprint upon reality around us?
And isn't it true that the power of the spoken word, even as expressed in the Bible, is one of the ways that that is achieved?
And in my own life, I've found that if I draw something on a piece of paper, if I draw it out, It becomes real.
I can't tell you how many times I've done that with projects and things.
It becomes real.
What are some ways that you're aware of, Tom, that we, as gifted conscious beings, as expressions of creation, that we can alter the world around us?
Yeah, it's actually divided into three different main categories.
So at the very lowest level, we have just pure physical action.
So when we talk about speech...
On the physical level, that merely means education or lobbying or activism or writing a book, you know, something like that.
But that's only like the lowest, simplest form of it.
Because you can go a step further, and in this step further, you can essentially use the power of your own consciousness to influence probability, to influence what comes at you in life itself.
Now, I will say as a disclaimer on that, that if you go down this path just too far without watching yourself, without incorporating divine wisdom, it turns easily into black magic.
And that's what magic is.
That's what black magic is and casting spells and curses and sacrificing an animal to make it rain or something like that or a virgin or something, right?
Those things, that's all within the sphere of, you could say, using life force energies and conscious powers to manipulate reality.
and there are only very limited use cases where doing this is okay.
I'm not talking about sacrificing animals.
I'm talking about, for example, let's say you're very downtrodden in life, very financially challenged, and one day you just had enough.
You know, your back is against the wall.
You've had enough, and you push your foot down, and you say, I intend to get out of this misery.
I intend to have a life where I can be happy, where I can be happy, be rich enough to help other people, to be a good person, to be my true potential.
See, that's coming from the heart.
That's your spirit kind of planting its flag and saying, I will be light.
I will be Not the darkness.
I will be my true self.
And when you do that, that has also a magical impact on reality, but it has a positive impact because you'll start noticing that opportunities will then start coming your way, if it's the right thing to do.
Opportunities will start coming your way.
Helpful people, maybe inspiration, maybe divine signs, you know.
The divine will reach down because, why?
Because you have exerted your free will in a positive direction.
And because they respect free will and they realize that you are trying to move out of darkness and restriction into a life of greater happiness, they will work with you.
I mean, they'll work with you subtly.
It's just like when a dad wants his son or his daughter to build something or ride a bike and be proud of what they do without being coddled and overly sheltered.
They want the child to grow into their own power.
And likewise, these higher beings want us to grow into our own power that is in harmony with the divine will.
Because that is the expression or the activation of the God spark within us.
In terms of overcoming a lot of the programming and darkness that is in our lives.
So that's like the second level, where you've got this direct conscious influence over reality, which, you know, it works.
And then the next level up is where you essentially petition help from higher positive beings.
And that's what prayer is.
See, a lot of prayer is communion between you and the higher divine powers.
And depending on your sincerity and what you're asking for, or what you're The level of atonement or conscience that you are expressing, they work with that and they can guide you towards a path that is more in line with your request for higher help.
Are you familiar with the prayer of Jabez?
No.
What is that?
Oh, man.
Everybody should research the prayer of Jabez.
What you just said is what this guy Jabez did way back when, and he petitioned God, and he said, God, expand my land, because it was all about land, and I will become a good steward And serve you based upon your guidance.
And God did just that.
He answered in spades.
It's really, really uplifting.
So people who are looking for kind of a 101 on how to do it, just research the prayer of Jabez.
Yeah, that's really powerful.
And even in the Lord's Prayer in the Bible, when people ask Jesus, you know, how should I pray?
And Jesus said, well, pray like this.
And then he gives the Lord's Prayer.
Well, the thing about the Lord's Prayer is, it's not that you have to repeat it verbatim, like every single word is.
It's not like an algorithm or a ritual or formula.
It's more the emotion behind it, the idea, the intention behind it.
In other words, for example, gratitude, requesting protection, requesting guidance.
Those are the things that matter the most.
And the reason why that matters the most is because, Mike, when you were talking about the power of speech and the power of the word, Well, here's the thing, I mean, there's, beneath just verbal words, there's also the conscious idea and intention behind it, right?
Absolutely.
And that's where the power comes from.
Exactly.
The intentionality behind the words, yes.
Exactly.
And that level is non-verbal, or telepathic, you could call it telepathic.
But you force your brain to go through that process when you choose to form words.
Yes, exactly.
Right?
Unless you just mumble the words ritualistically, which in the Bible, I think, didn't they say, like, don't pray like those other ones do?
Right.
Just mumble the words, you know, over and over again.
Just mechanistically, yes.
Exactly.
But this is really powerful, what you're saying.
And one of the conclusions that I've come to over the years is that there is the multi-modality effects of intentionality.
So the spoken word, so that's one form, but also artistic expression.
What if you drew, like I described moments ago, if you drew your intentionality on paper, through art, or whatever form of expression.
Some people do that through dance.
Some people do that through sculpture, right?
But also, you know, if you visualize, right?
So I'm talking about multi-modality prayer, in essence, which forces your mind to simulate and, I think, broadcast your intentionality through various modalities.
Does that make sense, Tom?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Now, it's just using different language.
So, for example, if you look within the field of magic and occultism, I don't mean like dark black magic occultism, but just like regular occultism.
Neutral occultism, you could call it, like neutral magic.
They have this idea of sigils, and sigils is a drawing that captures the essence of your intent.
So there's already a term for that sort of thing.
Oh, there is.
Oh, okay.
Right, right, right.
However, it's not limited to the field of occultism and magic because, for example, in Christianity, especially Catholicism, when you cross yourself, what are you doing, right?
You're making a sign.
You're drawing an intention for protection.
Yes, kinetic movement is another mode.
And just, I'm sorry to interrupt you, but just for the record, for the audience, I'm not into, you know, like weird ritualistic, like black magic or whatever.
I don't draw pentagrams on the floor with candles and sacrifice goats and whatever.
No, I have goats and I would never harm them.
They're so innocent.
But...
It's a very important distinction that you say.
Like, all of these things can be used in darkness, or they can take a person and thrust them into a dark expression, or they can be used in good through prayer and through things that are aligned with our Creator.
Exactly, because darkness, you know, there's this famous saying that darkness can't create anything original.
It can only pervert and invert and corrupt.
And so a lot of what the darkness does is an inversion or a corruption or a false extension of things that are otherwise neutral or good.
So for example, within religion we have prayer, right?
Well, within some of the dark arts, instead of prayer, it's more like curses and spells.
But it's similar in that it uses words, but it uses them from a dark place towards dark ends in the wrong way.
But just because they do some of that doesn't mean that therefore prayer is evil.
It just means that it's something good that has been corrupted in the sense of these dark curses.
But if you are a person who focuses on projecting curses, then doesn't that necessarily also change you?
You become the darkness that you project.
Right, exactly.
I mean, you can even tie this back into quantum physics.
For example, with the idea that consciousness, the observer...
It influences the very thing that is being observed.
So when a little particle, which is all these different possibilities, turns into just one single possibility, your consciousness had an influence on how that exactly happened.
Well, you can scale that up to the world at large, where you've got this world of infinite possibilities, and what you project out into it, the quality of your consciousness, the quality of your beliefs, your assumptions, your inner emotional climate, all those things that are How the world goes for you and for others as well, right?
And the more that you corrupt it with your own energy, the more that corruption will come back at you through bad experiences and bad people and dark entities that feed on this energy that you're putting out.
So you get back what you put out.
That's what I'm trying to say.
This is absolutely brilliant.
So the world, the complexity of the world exists in a state of complex superposition.
And you as the observer, you collapse the superposition possibilities into the reality that reflects what you put out there.
Exactly.
And see, the key that scientists miss is that when they talk about the observer collapsing the wave function, they don't really get into, okay, well, what kind of observer or what part of them is doing it?
Because if you go into psychology, you've got the ego, you've got the subconscious, you've got the conscious mind, the subconscious.
We're really talking about the subconscious.
The subconscious is what does most of the heavy lifting when it comes to affecting probability and affecting what comes at you in life.
So that's why your subconscious beliefs and your subconscious projections and darkness or hopes and dreams, those are the things that are the engine that fuel your what you project at a very deep level and therefore what you get back.
Very, very powerful.
Hey, I have a question.
Yeah, I have a question.
Again, we want to be constructive here.
Do you have any quick tips for dealing with negative entity issues?
Anybody who's kind of feeling some oppression on themselves and they don't necessarily can't put their thumb on it, but they know that there's some kind of an attack in their lives?
Yeah, for sure.
So I've gone through it myself, especially Earlier in life, when my life was really taken off in many different directions, so because my life was more in flux, therefore entities had an easier time nudging me this way or that, because I wasn't as wise to their tricks back then, right?
So basically what I learned to do is one of the things I learned to do is to simply lay down, almost like taking a nap, and then just focus on a positive idea or a particular prayer and just kind of meditate on that more and more and more.
And therefore, I would start aligning with that end goal.
Now, there are other ways of dealing with negative entities like clearing your home using incense or frankincense or burning sage.
It's called smudging.
You can look up smudging.
And all that does is really, it's almost like activated carbon, which absorbs bad odors.
Well, this is like smoke that absorbs the toxic energies that these entities put out into your home to make it more amenable to their presence.
You know, it's kind of like a fish.
When you take a fish out of water, right, it's exposed to air, it can barely breathe.
But if you just pour water on the fish, then therefore it can be more comfortable.
Well, these entities, when they come here into our world from their dark astral dimensions, they have to saturate the local space here with their dark energies in order to feel more comfortable.
So if you get rid of that field that they kind of terraformed your room with using smoke or incense or things like that, then they find your home more corrosive and they have a harder time maneuvering and doing things to you.
So you can do that.
You can also, if you're spiritual or religious in any way, you can petition higher forces, whether it's angels or the Holy Spirit or Christ or God, to help you clear your local space of these dark entities.
Now, there's one catch to that.
Well, actually, there's two catches.
So one catch is if you have zero faith and you petition for help almost with a level of skepticism – Like, this is not going to work.
This is a bunch of bunk.
And it's not going to work because you don't have the access card to divine help because you don't even have a connection to the divinity within yourself.
So you've got to kind of elevate yourself up and have the faith in it.
Have the goodwill, the sincerity, the humility to call it down and then it'll help you.
So that's one.
And the other is that, you know, Sometimes dark forces get at us because we have certain spiritual vulnerabilities that we've opened up through bad decisions, really bad thoughts, maybe cursing other people, revenge fantasies, you know, a lot of these...
Addiction.
Addictions.
Yeah, you know, like porn addictions, drug addictions, alcohol, whatever.
If you do too much, you get these weaknesses.
And so therefore, it's almost like the divine allows these dark forces in in order to give you a wake-up call.
So, once these things start happening, another good thing to do is to analyze your own behavior over the past, let's say, a couple weeks.
Was there anything that you've done that might have invited it in?
Did you start doing some weird meditation stuff?
Were you in a very depressive, angry state for a long time?
Because all these things, they open up little windows or portals into your soul, into your reality, and then these things can have an easier way with you.
So if you get yourself cleaned up internally, and you petition higher forces for help, and you might do some cleansing of your home with a smoke or incense or frankincense, something like that, then that's like a three-component way of dealing with negative entities.
And I would say that that probably takes care of maybe 80% of cases.
Because I get emails from time to time from people who have entity issues.
Some of them have a very easy...
Some of them have it very severe, and so there are other steps which are more involved and more difficult to deal with the more severe cases.
I'd just like to add to this because I've interviewed in the past, I interviewed a Catholic journalist who has been present at many exorcisms in the Catholic Church.
And I also interviewed another man, another author, who worked in the jail system in California, and he discovered that the truly demonically possessed prisoners could never utter the name Jesus Christ.
He would offer them cigarettes and food.
Just say Jesus Christ.
And they couldn't say it.
But anyway, the Catholic exorcist guy...
Maybe we'll interview him again, but he said something very important.
He said, the power of the exorcism doesn't come from the words.
It comes from the integrity of the exorcist person.
That person has to live a holy life.
That person has to be committed to the scripture and his faith.
And that person can't be like banging the choir boys on the side.
Because then the devil's like, ah, you're a joke, you know?
So it's like, if you've got these entities or demons in your life, isn't it also a reminder to, like, look at your own life?
If you want to have power in your words, like, you know, demons be gone, then you need to also maybe look at where you have those vulnerabilities.
I mean, you mentioned this, Tom.
Where are you leaving vulnerabilities where entities can sort of enter your consciousness?
Exactly, right.
Because I would say probably 90% of Things are probably due to our own projections, our own personal weaknesses, that is inviting the stuff in.
However, there is a remnant 10%, I would say, where even if you do everything right, that doesn't mean that demons or negative entities cease to exist in reality altogether.
It just means that now they're like wolves that are circling your home, but they can't get in.
They can't get in.
It's like pathogens.
Yeah, exactly, right.
It's like pathogens.
You might have a really good immune system, but From time to time, you might still get a little infection here or there, but those are still little tests.
You know, it's almost like making sure that you stay on your toes and you stay on the path.
Right.
One question, just the flip side of that, how do we align with positive forces to garner their protection?
So, one of the key elements of that does have to do with your own quality of being.
In other words, are you doing your share of the work?
Okay.
Because there are certain things that they can do, only that they can do, and there are certain things that you yourself can do.
So as I mentioned, watching your thoughts, your beliefs, your emotions, trying to clean that up, having more holy thoughts and more holy feelings is one of the most effective ways, because then you are essentially aligning with them, harmonizing with them more and more, and they have a much, much easier time reaching you in life.
Because here's the problem.
If you don't do that, then you're actually fighting them.
Right.
If you're just caught up in a very deep depression with a lot of self-loathing, for example, then you're essentially using your subconscious to attack yourself.
And you're basically jabbing yourself in the heart and in the face with a figurative knife.
And then they're supposed to come along and help you in that state.
It's very difficult for them to do that.
So the more you work with them, the more they can work with you.
That's pretty much all it boils down to.
Guys, it's funny because this is the first day that I put the Archangel Michael on my desk.
Oh, wow.
Not that I worship idols or anything, but this is a reminder that, you know, here we go.
Yeah, there's a shot of the statue of Archangel.
Now, how badass is this guy?
He's got wings and a sword and a shield, right?
And he's also, he's the protector, but also helps protect health.
So I consider him to be like a health freedom champion.
At least that's my interpretation, but so much more.
But, you know, there are white hats, right, in the angelic realm.
There are, I think, entities that want to help us if we are aligned with their desires.
I mean, let's have compassion.
Let's express humanity.
Let's encourage others to maximize their joyous experience of life with abundance and health and brilliance and creativity.
All these things, which are all mentioned in the Bible in one way or another, too, right?
I think that if we are aligned with those principles, we will get a lot of help.
That's my take on it.
Oh, for sure.
And it's funny that you bring up the Archangel Michael figure, because the archetype of Archangel Michael is so important.
Why?
Because it's not just...
I mean, as you guys very well know, modern Christianity has been tranquilized to a large extent, where the idea of meekness and submission...
It has been played up way more than it should be.
If you actually read the Bible and research the ancient history and wisdom and so on, They weren't meek.
No, they weren't little fluffy bunnies.
No, of course not.
They were not.
So the Archangel Michael archetype is what you want to connect with if you're of the Christian faith to kind of counter that programming, that tranquilization.
Because he's not woke, man.
Look, he's like, I got some...
I have some bubble gum.
No, I came here to chew gum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubble gum.
He's like, we're going to kick some ass against evil, right?
Hey, Mike, I can't tell, but does Michael have long hair on that statue?
Yeah, he's got long hair.
So do you think Michael would go ahead and compete in the Olympics as a woman?
Women's boxing team?
I think he would clean up in any category, frankly.
But We're just joking around, but Tom, what you say is so true.
It's time for us to stand with strength in our convictions and beliefs and to defend them.
Not to just roll over.
There is so much evil in the world right now.
The psychic overlords that we were talking about earlier, they're real and they're preying upon people and they run our institutions.
They run our governments, our schools, our pop culture, media.
And what's her name?
What's the music woman, popular music woman that's got all the concerts?
What's her name?
Oh, Taylor Swift.
Yeah, Taylor Swift, right.
Like Demon Swift.
Swift Demons, I think, is what that is.
Right?
So she's just obviously a creature of Satan just out there brainwashing people.
But we've got to stand firm in our convictions here to stand up for what's right.
At least that's my take.
Yeah, I believe the same thing.
I mean, that's sort of my main thing in life is to deal with the darkness.
And to expose it and to help people wiggle out from under its claws.
That's sort of what I do.
Well, God bless you, Tom.
Tell me this.
Tell me this.
Because I have listened to some of your talks on synchronicities.
For me, why is it every single day, or if I have to go to the bathroom at night, it's 3.33.
I look at the clock.
I swear it's been that way my whole life.
What's that about, Tom?
Well, I mean, think about it.
If you're asleep and dreaming and you see a particular symbol, what does it mean, right?
It's a communication from either another part of your own intelligence, like your subconscious, or it's a communication from some other intelligence entirely.
It could be divine.
It could even be departed loved ones, for all we know.
Maybe they are sending us signs.
See, I think it varies from person to person, and the only true way to figure out what yours mean is to log it And then to pay attention to the surrounding circumstances, like what you're doing around the time, maybe what's coming up in your life in the next 12 to 24 hours.
So for me personally, if I get numbers like 333 or 444, I only ever get them when things are going very well.
Like I'm actually...
I'm centered within myself and in tune with the higher parts of my soul.
I'm in the flow.
I'm doing good.
Everything's going well.
Everything's working out.
It's almost like green lights.
I can literally go on the road, get green lights the entire way to wherever I'm going.
On the same days that I'm getting these numbers, it's all part of the same thing.
It's almost like reality is aligning in a strange way.
But there's other times where I might get other numbers or other signs that are almost like bad omens.
And sure enough, sure enough, something happens.
It could have been like a close call with a car accident or an argument with someone or a financial loss or accident, twisting an ankle or something.
So I might get warnings ahead of time for that.
Because these things tend to be either giving me a heads up or in response to something positive, for the most part, I believe that they are positive signs, and I take them as such.
All right.
That's great.
That's great wisdom.
Now, I just want to thank you for your time.
I know we've gone way over, but this has been a fascinating discussion.
I can't believe how much time has gone by.
So let me just plug your website here again.
Montauk.net is the site.
And also, there it is on screen.
There.
Yep.
Like magic.
Shazam.
There it is.
Okay.
Montauk.net.
And then the book here on Amazon, Gnosis.
This is one of the books.
Just search for the author Montauk.
And Tom, I really want to thank you for taking time with us.
Do you have any final words you'd like to leave our audience with?
Well, I just want to say that I do believe that we are in a battle between darkness and light.
And the higher forces are counting on you to do your part, to distinguish between the darkness and light within yourself, to therefore align with the light within you, which is actually the true self within you, and to kind of stick to your true values and your true principles and to fight for what you know is right.
Hey, Tom, I started with a layup question, and I'm going to end with one.
How do we win...
Our individual game of life, Tom.
The only true way is to follow not just your mind and not just your heart, but to follow them in combination.
Because we've been endowed with both by the Creator, right?
So we have to use all the tools, all the tools that we have been given, and none of the tools that have been artificially foisted upon us, the false values, the graphs of society that tell us we should only ever chase materialism or only ever chase this or that, which we know deep down at a level of conscience isn't actually what we're here to which we know deep down at a level of conscience isn't So the more you know yourself and the more you use your innate abilities, meaning your heart and your mind together, the better things work out.
That's great.
Thank you.
You are awesome.
And can people see why I started by saying this is one of episode 125 with Tom?
I mean, right, Mike?
We didn't even get into simulation theory, which I really want to talk about.
And also for a future episode, I want to talk about extraterrestrial AI tech.
Because, right, there's so much to cover here, but Tom, I think your work is extraordinary.
I'm going to read your book, and I think I love the depth that you've gone to to think about these issues, and I think people can find a lot of wisdom and inspiration in this.
You're helping to decode the matrix for people so they can navigate it.
Exactly.
All right.
Well, many thanks, Tom.
Yeah, you rock.
Yeah.
All right.
You do indeed.
Have a great day, and thank you for joining us.
Thanks a lot.
Good talking to you guys.
All right.
You too.
Cheers.
Bye-bye.
All right.
Stay with us, folks.
We'll be right back after this break with the after-party discussion.
So it's going to be interesting.
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Alright, welcome back folks.
Mike and Todd here.
Again, Todd, you know, it's funny because we're talking about how the universe kind of aligns and works.
And isn't that the way this show has worked?
It is.
With our guests?
It really is.
It really is.
That's why I, when people do provide suggestions, most people find me at Todd Pitner on Telegram.
If you have some suggestions, I'm all ears.
And this came from someone within Telegram.
Wow.
I kind of feel embarrassed I didn't know who he was.
And I started doing my research and I'm like, my gosh, what a brilliant man.
Yeah, clearly, clearly.
I mean, you and I could talk with him for hours.
Hours.
We'll have him back and we'll cover a lot more I am just so thankful that we have people in our society.
As much as you and I both, Todd, we are frustrated with the mass stupidity that does exist at one level.
There are also brilliant people and passionate people who have game-changing ideas and conclusions and analysis to share.
That's what's so wonderful about this show.
If you listen to Tom's message, it's going to improve your freedom.
Right.
Because you're going to realize you have more control over circumstances, let's say, or your life.
Yes.
More control than you thought you had.
Yeah.
You can really manifest your own future if you go about it strategically and you stop that stinking thinking.
I mean, I think there's something to that.
And Jana, my wife, we had this conversation this morning and And I told her because she was manifesting some negative feelings in her life and kind of based out of fear.
And I told her, I said, I cannot wait for you to listen to Mike and my interview with Tom Montauk.
And I explained a little bit about what he does and how he goes about life.
And I know that when Jana listens to this, it's going to change her life for the better.
It really will.
I think this was that powerful of a message, Mike.
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.
There are so many things that we can do.
We can change our future.
We can change the course of our lives, and it can happen virtually overnight.
And I can't tell you how many times I've experienced that myself, including something recently that's been very, very positive.
And I haven't even shared the details with you, but I will soon.
Given that we went so much overtime with the interview, You better keep this short.
You and I are going to have to shorten our after party, which is a shame because we always have so much fun.
But before time gets away from us, I want to bring attention to something that you've just launched.
Your new website.
Here it is, my575e.com.
It looks amazing.
And let me just say in advance, before you describe it, let me just say, this is about how people can have more control over their own earnings, their own finances, their own futures.
And also, morally, Todd, If there are ways to legally pay less to a regime that is using money to buy bombs to kill innocent people, then I believe we have a moral obligation to minimize how much of our money goes to those bombs.
As long as it's legal and ethical.
Clearly it's ethical.
But I just want to say that up front.
It's all yours.
Go ahead and tell us about your site.
Yeah, I'm super excited to have launched it because, as you know, for the last year I've been doing consultations with people, helping them discover unincorporated nonprofit associations with an IRS-designated status of 575E, E standing for exempt.
This is a lawful entity, and what I encourage people to do is just go to my575e.com and just go through the very simple process, which is putting in your name and email address, and then that's going to give you access to a PDF that is a dozen pages that I have worked on for an entire year that is All of my work into one PDF that's going to educate you with 32
positive attributes of owning and operating your own UNA that will empower you to keep more of what you earn, to protect your private property, and to preserve your personal liability.
It's very, very powerful.
I've had mine for over four years and it's astonishing.
Now what's great Once you enter your email address and name, then you are also going to get access to the free 90-minute video where I interview the guy that's been bringing this...
Lawful entity to over a thousand people the last 34 years.
And we have an amazing interview to where we walk through everything.
So you are going to be, at minimum, way smarter.
But at maximum, if you decide to operate and acquire your own, it'll change your life.
And I don't sell it.
I present it.
Mike, there's just not enough money in this to make it my primary form of income.
I do it because this show is all about building the infrastructure of human freedom, and this is just my little way to be able to help advance that ball, Mike.
Wow.
Okay.
Incredibly powerful.
This is, again, a tool that people can learn about through your site.
They can watch the video.
They can, if they choose, they can use this tool in their life, in their finances.
I've looked into this a little bit and it is recognized under California law.
I even hired an attorney to look into it because I had my own questions and he came back to me.
It took like two months.
I don't know.
He was busy or something.
Like attorneys often are.
And he came back to me and said, yeah, like California is the only state that's got this special thing.
And like, wow, because that's what Todd said.
And he's like, yeah, he's right about that.
So And I want to be clear, it doesn't mean that you have to live in California.
This is a California-created entity that's already been done on your behalf, or can be done on your behalf if you want a custom-named UNA. But anybody in any state can acquire and operate their own.
It just happens to have been born in California, which provides all of the protection that you need.
That's really powerful.
Alright, I've got something to share with you now for me to plug something.
Have you seen my site, rangerdeals.com?
No.
Well, let me show it right here.
It's rangerdeals.com, and this shows all of the special savings that our various sponsors and partners have put together for our audience.
And you can see, like, you can save 10% on ivermectin for pets, right?
And here's a discount code, Ranger.
You can save 10% off Trends Journal with Gerald Salenti or...
Here's Goldbacks.
There's no savings on that because there's no discount there.
But we've got various things like the vitamin B17, laetrile supplements.
Here's the de-Googled phones.
Here's a satellite phone store, which is a sponsor.
Here's the above book, the privacy-protected phone service.
Lots of different things here.
But here's what's amazing.
The big part of this is that many of these partners...
And we indicate it here with icons.
They don't pay me or my company any kind of money.
What they do is they give us donations like an affiliate proportion of the sales from this.
They send me, for example, they send me cases of ivermectin for pets.
Or they send me cases, like the Safrax company sends me cases of chlorine dioxide.
The Coindoxi tablets.
So I've been connecting.
You're going to love this, Todd.
I interviewed Pastor Steve Ciccolanti this week, and he moved from Australia to Florida, and he's setting up his new church in Florida called Discover Church.
So I was able to call Steve Dan, the CEO of Safrax, And I said, hey, Steve, you know, the next donation shipment to us, which I normally distribute to people around Texas communities, I said, send it to Steve, man.
Send it to Steve.
And he said, okay, Mike, I'm going to send it to Steve, but I'm going to double it because Steve's a church.
So he doubled it.
And he's sending Steve, I think, 10 cases of this.
This is, again, Pastor Steve Ciccolanti.
And Ciccolanti then told me, oh, that's amazing.
We will distribute it around Florida to our congregation.
And in times of need, you know, floods and whatever, hurricanes, you know, you need like emergency medicine, emergency sanitation.
So we are getting resources into the Florida church now.
And then we've also sent out shipments of the ivermectin for pets.
We've sent those out to several pet rescue organizations across America.
Oh, that's so cool.
And then on top of that, I recently met a very important person in Texas.
He's the chief of staff of a lawmaker.
I'll just say it that way.
And he turns out to be a pastor.
Of a church that's also part of a first responder mission in Texas to bring supplies to people in times of floods or hurricanes or what have you, earthquakes.
Not that we have many earthquakes in Texas, but you get the idea.
Fires.
We have fires.
And so we're now connected with them.
So if we need to get ivermectin out, you know, labeled for pets, of course.
It's all labeled for pets, but...
Dogs need ivermectin, too.
We get ivermectin out to the people, or we get our own foods, like the ranger buckets from our store, healthrangerstore.com, or we get, you know, the chlorine dioxide out.
We have now a mechanism to be able to have, like an infrastructure for rescue operations.
And we finally have made all these connections to where we're able to just get products into people's hands.
But if you shop for our audience, if you shop through the deals at rangerdeals.com, you're helping to make these donations happen.
That's great, Mike.
See, things are just aligning, man.
Yeah.
It's amazing.
And you know what I'm going to throw in here?
I'm going to make a suggestion on the site that you have, is you give us the option to be able to buy one, gift one.
So we can proactively, if something is $10, I wouldn't mind paying $20 if I'm going to get the product.
I want to be able to gift one as well, and I will trust that you'll figure out where it would be best sent.
So that's my idea for the day.
No, I love that.
I think that's a great model for lots and lots of examples of this.
But bottom line, look, folks, I mean, you think about what you just heard here for this show, the so-called sponsorship.
Todd, you've got your site with the 575E. I've got rangerdeals.com.
But in both cases, we are genuinely helping people discover more freedom and to take more control over their own life and also to create a channel of...
Sharing resources and abundance with other people.
Oh, can I share one other thing?
Of course.
Is that those people who are acquiring the UNAs, I've set up a private telegram group called UNA Biz, and it's for those who acquire the UNAs.
They get an invite to it, and it is becoming such a cool community.
Oh, I'll bet.
I'm telling you, I mean, these people are smart.
And so, man, you're going to get that too.
It's all part of the package.
It's a great community.
Wow.
Well, very cool.
I love the fact that you're helping people with that.
We've done this show together for more than a year, and have you noticed how both of us, Todd, have moved into more and more of a public service type of role in the last year?
Yep.
I mean, we started out just like, how can we teach people to be more free?
And now it's like, whoa, like we're being tasked with the responsibility to help kind of guide people into freedom solutions, you know?
I think that's right.
And I think if people listen to this show, you know, that we have today, and all of our shows are timeless, but it's kind of like...
If we all get in the river and start swimming downstream instead of upstream, and we just follow our path that comes natural to us, and we think positive about serving others, the opportunities to serve in a really nice way, they become available.
Absolutely.
But we have to be careful not to overwork ourselves.
I have so much sweat.
I have to have Michael wipe my brow right now with his sword.
Oh, thank you, Michael.
Thank you for the help.
Okay, we have a little fun.
I'm not mocking Archangel Michael or anything like that.
But we have fun, folks, right?
I mean, we've got to keep it interesting.
And, Todd, it's just a blessing to be able to do this show with you.
I look forward to it every week that we do this.
And we've got...
The guests just keep getting better.
That's what's amazing about this.
I know.
I'm going to stop saying, oh, that was my favorite guest so far.
You say that every week.
I do.
Oh, man.
Just amazing.
Well, Todd, we'll wrap this up.
And I can't wait to see who we have on next.
But...
Every guest has been amazing.
It'll be good, Mike.
Okay.
Well, have a great rest of your day.
Thank you.
And we'll get together again soon.
All right.
See you, everyone.
Cheers.
All right.
Yeah.
Thank you all for watching today.
And Michael says hello here as well.
Badass wings and a sword.
Wow.
How could that not be awesome?
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