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Aug. 13, 2024 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Sarah Westall joins Mike Adams: The technocratic Orwellian overlords...
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Welcome to this extraordinary interview here with Sarah Westall, an expert in technology, and she's the creator of a series that we previously ran on Brighton University called Fifth Generation Warfare and Mind Control Technologies.
Sarah Westall is her name, and she's going to share with us today for this special program some practical solutions for how we can protect ourselves from the psychological warfare, the so-called fifth-generation warfare, all these efforts that are being waged against us to try to control our minds and alter our thoughts. all these efforts that are being waged against us to Welcome, Sarah Westall.
It's an honor to have you back on.
Thanks, Mike.
Thanks for having me.
And thank you so much for airing that series.
You're a hero for doing that and having the courage to do everything that you do.
It was our pleasure to air it.
Thank you for giving us permission to do so.
Sarah, for those who did not see your previous docu-series that we promoted on Bright Town University, I got a lot of positive feedback.
They loved your experience, your intelligence, your ability to explain these concepts.
But could you give our viewers here today just a quick background of where you came from out of telecom and the tech industry and how that brought you to where you are now?
Well, thank you, Mike.
Yeah, I started big tech, right?
Telecom really is big tech.
And back then, Where I was at at US West, it was actually Enterprise, which was an advanced networking group of US West.
We had upwards, I would say upwards of 75%.
Really, we had upwards of 90%.
We were the dominant player in building out the network or the internet.
Which was the frame relay market at the time.
And I ended up getting promoted to lead the systems networking design, which is, that was, we ran that whole division.
Before I did that, I learned even more where we are modeling out, doing data modeling, which a lot of people consider that AI now, which I actually think AI is more than that, but I understand the power of that.
And we, I mean, you could think, think of, 50-foot piece of paper by 20 feet, just huge, with little boxes, data structures on it.
That's how big it was.
We were modeling out the entire internet.
And I learned so much from that, and I understood how they have the power, how Google has the power to manipulate, what the power of data and what that means.
And it's incredibly powerful.
I remember talking to the president of the organization at the time and going, Oh my God, we could be 50 years in the future.
It was incredible.
And I was just evangelizing over it.
And I think that's why I ended up getting promoted because I was leading that whole thing.
I brought in the president or the head of the computer science department at the University of Minnesota and he was working with us.
It was really a cool time.
But I was in my mid-20s.
All I could see Was the positive aspects of this.
And now that I got into this field for the last, I think I've been doing this for about 12 years, I see a different side.
And scientists have The problem of what we had the problem with.
We were smart.
We were young.
You don't have to necessarily be young, but you're smart.
We were just really excited about the potentials for humanity.
And you don't realize the power of these tools in the hands of people that don't have the best interests of humanity.
And that's something that you learn as you get more experience and something I learned and a lot of scientists need to learn and they need to learn that in a hurry.
And I think you learned that.
Yeah, absolutely.
I came out of the tech industry, software, myself.
And like you, early on, I was very enthusiastic about where things were going.
I remember when Google, the slogan was, don't be evil.
And now Google, arguably, is one of the most evil corporations on the planet.
But Now that we're living in 2024 here, and people have awakened to the truth about all of this like never before, people understand that the tech giants are weaponized against them and free speech is censored, but it's way worse than censorship.
There are technologies that surveil, that monitor, that indoctrinate, that use your mind like a sandbox for injecting their bad ideas.
Give us a quick overview, if you would please, of the current status of where we are in this fifth generation warfare and the technologies that are being wielded against us as weapons.
Absolutely.
First of all, fifth generation warfare, the difference between fifth generation warfare and all the generations before it was it used to be going after the enemy's forces with a narrow political agenda.
And, you know, you were going after military forces.
Now they're going after bypassing the military.
I mean, you know, Armin Kirshnan, who teaches military personnel and intelligence agents, was in the series.
And he's...
Kind of saying, you know, the military is almost not important anymore.
They're just bypassing the military and going directly to us, controlling our minds and bodies to implement whatever agenda that they're trying to get across.
That's fifth generation warfare.
And I mean, you just let that sink in.
But when it comes to the capabilities that they have, I look at it, I coined this after this, you know, when I was promoting it, and I really kind of wish I would have brought it into the series, but it's really applicable.
It's really a 360 degree sci-up.
Psychological operations that are complete.
It's from the Actions that you can see from social media to multimedia and the actions you cannot see, the invisible actions, which is like frequency.
And the best example of that, which is 35 years old, already in operation 35 years ago, was the Iraqi war, Desert Storm, where they had over 87,000 soldiers surrender on the battlefield.
And it was a Perfect example of a 360-degree PSYOP where they had Operations, psychological operations that were what we're used to seeing, you know, the media, the pamphlets going out,
the rumors throughout society, and then they used voice to skull, which was messages directly to the soldiers' brains telling them to, it was a voice of God, telling them that Allah, literally, they had Allah speaking to them to tell them to surrender.
So you're saying, wait a minute, you're saying the Allied forces used this Would you call it voice to skull technology, which we know exists, to project what appears to be audio inside the skulls of these Iraqi soldiers?
That's right.
That technology was deployed.
Absolutely.
It's like laser, light laser.
Sound waves are like light waves.
Light, it used to be all diffused, and then they figured out how to control it and turn it into a light bulb, and then they controlled it even more and turned it into a laser.
Well, sound wave can be controlled like light waves can and be very directed.
And so they directed it like a laser, but it's a sound beam that goes right to the skull of a soldier.
And they can literally beam in a sound.
And they were doing that with the voice of God.
That's how they got the voice of God, I believe, how they started calling it that.
It's really, they call it voice to skull technology.
And they were beaming in, you need to surrender.
I don't know exactly the phrases they were saying, but the soldiers literally believed they were getting message from God to surrender from Allah.
Yeah, and 87,000 soldiers, but it was a combination.
It's a 360-degree PSYOP is what I call it because it was a combination of not just on the battlefield, it was the rumors, it was the propaganda, the leaflets, it was the whole society being propagandized and the soldiers on the field having this voice of the skull.
So it was a combination of things that we understand and see, kind of like COVID was.
It was another 360-degree sigh up, 35 years or probably 32 years later, with that much more sophistication geared at the population, which was a combination of what we saw at CNN with all the deaths,
you know, literally every day they were propagandizing COVID. And then with Richard Lighthouse, which targeted justice, they were actually able to measure That people were getting voices in their head to go get the vaccine.
This is safe.
Go get it.
It's not going to be a problem.
If you don't get it, you're a danger to society.
I mean, this was going on.
So what about radicalizing people who might be on psychiatric drugs and susceptible, you know, like MK Ultra, like radicalizing people to carry out acts of violence or things like that?
Does that go on?
All of it.
Yes.
I mean, all of that can happen.
And we talked about that, too, in the series.
And I have whistleblowers and I have neuroscientist clips from different people where they can take a crowd and they can calm them down, make them depressed.
They can rile them up.
They can pump frequencies of different emotions to create what they want.
Now, somebody who is already a psychiatric patient is somebody who's...
Very much going to be a target for being Antifa, for example.
And this is something that I've followed.
We didn't talk about Antifa in the series, but I followed it through other people and other researchers and professionals that have told me that Antifa really is a collection of people out of mental hospitals from different countries and different places that they but I followed it through other people and other researchers and professionals that have told me that Antifa really is a collection of people out of
And that's the kind of situation that we're dealing with, but they can also do that with frequency and really rile up the audience or get people all freaked up.
And they do that with 360-degree science, from things that we see through multimedia, through a constant repetition of messages that will create certain emotions in people.
And they know the messaging that they need to send to the people based on their psychological profile.
That's the power of data.
They know your psychological profile.
They know the messages that will rile you up.
They know how many times they need to repeat it.
They know what they need to show you.
And then you will, a certain percentage of people will predictably behave this way, which will create the outcome that they're looking for.
So examples of this in COVID would be like one of the first narratives was two weeks to flatten the curve.
Yeah.
And you heard that pushed out by everybody.
Or, you know, certain messages about masks, like masks work, or, you know, vaccines prevent infections, whatever.
I mean, they had all these messages.
And then later on, it turns out that none of that was true.
They didn't need two weeks to flatten the curve.
You know, years and multiple jabs, and they admit the first jabs don't work, and on and on and on.
So it's all been lies, but it was very convincing to a lot of people.
In fact, I mean, some people are sort of permanently brainwashed by these methods.
They never go back to being normal.
Well, you still see people wearing masks all by themselves in a car.
True.
That's permanent brainwashing.
They traumatized them into believing they need to do this to stay safe, right?
And those of us that could see through it were like, we have 100 years of data showing that masks are not significant in this situation.
And then suddenly, right now, right during COVID, you have new studies that are better that say they are?
I mean, that's a red flag, people.
Right.
Those are kind of indications.
Those are the solution.
We need to become more aware of that kind of stuff.
Okay, but Sarah, in this, I mean, talk about the voice-to-skull technology.
What's a defense against that?
Is it just a sense of awareness of knowing that you're being manipulated, or...
Should people walk around with a magneto helmet like from the X-Men so that Charles Xavier can't control his mind?
I mean, what are we talking about here?
Well, awareness is really important, right?
We all, about 25 to 40% of people have natural defense for it.
It just doesn't work on them.
And that we believe from the research is the more you're aware of it, the less likely it's going to work on you.
So it's important that you're aware and that just to defend yourself, you need to be aware, right?
So awareness is number one.
Awareness is number one also because the scientists that are in these projects are Who can make a difference and who have solutions that maybe we don't have They need to become aware so that they can make a difference and get to the source of the problem.
But there's other things like make sure your nutrition is good because they found that when your nutrition is low or you have heavy metals or aluminum in your system, aluminum isn't a heavy metal, but it behaves a lot like a heavy metal.
So they put them in the same category a lot of times because it has the same toxic effects of it.
But aluminum is in every single vaccine.
And they know that aluminum messes with your brain and makes you less likely to Think clearly.
So same with lower nutritional levels.
So you need to make sure you get this crap out of your body, detox, do what you need to do, and also increase your nutritional levels because your body is the first defense for guarding your mind from being affected by this stuff.
You need to be able to think clearly.
And then hopefully you can help your neighborhood and your local community also get their minds and their bodies cleaned up.
But it starts with you.
You need to do that personally.
And then just become aware.
And then when you hear media things and you hear sensational stuff, don't react right away.
Take a break.
Turn off the TV maybe, walk away, take a walk, and then wait for things to play out so that you don't get sucked into the emotion of it.
Because when you're highly emotional, you can't think clearly and you become irrational.
And the last thing we need is an irrational civil war or some kind of irrational violence because you're reacting to propaganda that's meant to do that to you.
So take a break and don't let your emotions take over.
Yeah, good advice.
A lot of people do instantly react, and then they tend to not engage in reason at all.
And then maybe later they might regret what they said.
What about surveillance?
Because I promote de-Googled phones.
I mean, this is a de-Googled phone that I have right here, because I don't want Google spying on me.
Apple spies on people.
Of course Google does.
We know Microsoft.
All these different products, they spy on you.
They collect metadata.
Or in the case of mobile phones, they're collecting location data.
And third-party apps are collecting it.
And all of that appears to be then very often used against you.
And by the way, there was a court ruling.
I don't know if it was at the district court or Supreme Court, but it ruled that...
A law enforcement agency demanding your geolocation data of where you have been from the carrier, that is not a violation of your Fourth Amendment right.
Wow.
Right?
So they don't even need a warrant for that, and that's been affirmed by the courts.
So what do you say?
Well, I say our courts are decades behind.
Our courts are not informed on what's going on, and that's why it's so important to up the awareness, because our courts and their level of understanding is decades behind.
The entire structure of the world has changed.
Big tech, if you look at the largest companies in the world, they're all big tech now, except Saudi Arabia's Aramical, which isn't even in the top three anymore.
I mean, let that sink in.
Big tech is dominating the world.
We have three, as I speak now, three large corporations that are over $3 trillion that are big tech.
We've never had companies this size in the history of the world.
It used to be oil companies and car companies and other companies Military used to run the world, right?
The whole geopolitical landscape has completely changed.
The world is different today.
And all of these geopolitical strategists and all of these people are stuck in a world 20, 30 years ago.
They need to re-understand how this entire world is structured and that things are different today.
And that we...
I can go on.
You kind of triggered me on this one.
But assuming that Congress is going to be way behind on this...
Yeah.
Everybody's way behind.
Because half of Congress doesn't even understand the tech that we're talking about.
But what can individuals do?
Very good.
Yeah.
Well, what you're saying is absolutely true.
We need to de-Google ourselves.
I... To me, the experience that all of us have had over the last four years watching Google silence voices of solutions for COVID while they were promoting voices that were hurting you.
I mean, they were helping to promote actions that were harmful for you and your family while Silencing other actions that would help you.
If that's not enough of an indication that they're not your friend, I don't know what else could be, and that you need to get them out of your life.
De-Google phones, de-Google search engines, de-Google everything you possibly can.
Move to corporations, big tech, who are doing everything they can to make it so that your data is private, so that you're free.
Using VPNs.
If you're in another country that cannot access shows like you should be able to access or access information, set up VPNs.
There's no reason why they need to be able to track absolutely everything that you do.
That should be a human right.
I think this is why the courts are behind and everybody's behind.
These human rights that are naturally that we should be born with hasn't caught up yet.
The world has changed.
These need to be incorporated into what our natural human rights are.
But since they haven't done that yet, you need to safeguard yourself.
And just like I'm sure you cover a lot of ways, you have a tech background, so you're somebody that people should listen to.
How do we de-Google ourselves?
And you have a new platform that you're working with Bastion on.
Bastion is absolutely wonderful technology.
It's a backbone of your technology.
It is a free system.
If the internet goes down, we need to have alternatives to the internet that are private.
The internet goes down.
You can still access your network.
You can still access Bastion.
You can access these private networks.
We need...
Let me mention that, and thank you for mentioning, I didn't even expect you to say that, but that's brighteon.io, and the reason brighteon.io, which is built on the Bastion backbone, and I'm just bringing it up here to show people, but the reason this matters, as you said, is because this is decentralized, so there are no central servers that can take it down.
It actually uses peer-to-peer messaging.
And when people run the apps, instead of using a browser, when people run the apps, then it doesn't even use domain name resolution.
So even if, as you say, if the internet goes down or if they activate the internet kill switch and they take off name servers, you can still communicate through Brighteon.io apps or Bastion apps.
It's the same backbone.
But most of the communication today online is not set up that way.
Most of it's not peer-to-peer.
Most of it requires a central server.
Even Twitter or x.com.
You've got to go to x.com.
There's a name server that has to resolve that to an IP address.
And all of that can be taken down instantly.
Absolutely.
And yeah, and that's, these are the solutions that we need.
We need to personally protect ourselves by using your app, Bastion, you know, really get ourselves set up.
But we need the scientists and the engineers to figure it out and start developing networks, private networks, that's not dependent on these things.
Globalist cults that want to control us like this.
We need other avenues to communicate because we don't want to lose our worldwide communication.
I mean, we've learned a lot from this, right?
Yes.
This has been a flourishing.
Mankind is flourishing from this abundance of information.
We want to keep that open.
We want to open it up more and then protect it so that they're not using it against us.
Yes, a couple things.
Let me mention your website, too, by the way.
It's sarahwestall.com, and you've got a lot of topics there.
I just want to thank you for publishing that and being as active as you are.
You do a lot of interviews.
You create a docu-series.
Here's the interview that you and I did previously, and so on.
So sarahwestall.com.
And then secondly, at the time we're recording this, The government of Germany just raided an independent media organization, a pretty well-known publisher in Germany, and just raided their offices and shut them down and said, we don't like what you're saying.
It's illegal.
You're done.
It's like, wow!
They don't, you know, our Constitution, as messed up as it is from the standpoint, our Constitution is not messed up, but as messed up as our country is following our Constitution, we still have a Constitution.
The European countries, they don't value free speech like we do.
Our founders knew that if you shut down independent thought, if you don't criticize, have the ability to criticize your own government, you will be sheep led to the slaughter.
You know, that's literally what they said.
And that's why.
Because we're watching it right now.
If we don't have the ability to highlight these things, COVID, if that didn't wake people up, we literally will be sheep led to the slaughter for the people that have nefarious agendas.
I wish, and when I was younger, I didn't realize that nefarious people like this even existed.
I didn't have that.
I mean, I knew bad guys existed, but not people who were Actually, with this much power and control, and we have to understand, and the founders knew that.
They knew the people that had the ability to control the world Potentially could be very nefarious and we needed to protect ourselves against them.
Well, absolutely.
And the thing is, this is a tyrant's dream come true.
Today's interconnected system or even the Internet of Things, being able to watch and surveil everybody and everybody has a tracking device that they carry around, that the cell towers are tracking them or Google is tracking them.
This really is a tyrant's dream come true.
I mean, imagine...
I almost hate to bring up, you know, Hitler, but it's the classic case.
But the same would apply to Stalin or whoever.
Imagine a tyrant in history having this technology to say, oh, I can just pinpoint all the people that they want to go round up and slaughter, you know?
This Stasi would be drooling over this.
This is beyond.
Yeah.
And the scary part is the two-way communication of reading our Reading our bio data and them getting feedback on how to react to us.
Because if they can feed our emotions, they can give us thoughts, they can tell us what to do, what to think, literally get rid of our free will.
And if they have the bio data, the feedback loop to be able to feed that information to us, That is the red line that we can't cross because that's a loss of our literal freedom.
That's a loss of our free will.
And we're getting close to that.
Yuval Harari said we have about 10 to 15 years before we lose free will.
I would take him seriously on that because the technology is moving in that direction.
And people who study this know that the technology is moving in that direction.
It's literally, they have the capability of doing this.
And we have fought in wars throughout our entire history to maintain our freedom.
And if you want to maintain your freedom, we have to take this warning seriously because the technology and the capabilities are really, really there.
So the red line has to be these bio two-way sensors.
Right, right.
Let's talk about that.
So Neuralink, the Elon Musk funded technology, the brain implants that they claim can now basically monitor someone speaking and it can reconstruct their language.
It can actually transcribe what they're saying just based on the brain signals, not even hearing their speech, things like that.
Soon they'll probably be able to decode your dreams in real time.
As you're having the dreams, it'll be saving an MP4 file of the dream you're having.
That's beyond frightening.
But some people, Sarah, will love this technology.
As you see now, they're like, oh, I want to be microchipped because it's so convenient at the Whole Foods checkout.
I wave my hand and it's all done.
Some people love to become Borgs.
What's with that?
I don't know, but you're putting your entire existence at risk.
We have to have a red line.
Now, I watch the people who are paraplegic who have gotten their ability back to move their limbs and things and the smile on the face and the pure joy of that.
And so as a humanity, how do we give people back these abilities and that we move society?
I don't want to turn and become in the dark ages.
Let's move and advance society.
But at the same time, We do not want this to take away our free will.
And, you know, Neuralink is just one application.
I think that's the public facing one.
And they're not going to talk about some of this nefarious things that are going on.
Neuralink, there's a lot of different applications like Neuralink that they're working at at DARPA and other dark laboratories all over the place.
I mean, if you listen to Giordano talk, This is really important.
It's the largest industry that people don't know about.
He talked about how, and I put this in the series, four decades ago there was only four programs, neural programs that were seamlessly connecting neuroscience and engineering to do what we're talking about right now.
Now there's over 200 university programs just in the United States Not talking about private institutions or the other countries that in many cases are ahead of us.
I don't know.
They claim they are.
I don't know if that's true or not.
It's literally a massive industry now.
They're getting funding from so many different government institutions and private organizations and NGOs are all involved.
It's a massive industry that nobody really knows about in the public.
And we have to take this seriously because it's barreling down on us.
Absolutely.
And I'm going to play a scene here, if you guys can show my screen.
This is a scene from the film called The Island, which came out in 2005.
And in this movie, of course, they're growing clones of celebrities.
And then they're organ harvesting from the clones to give new organs to the wealthy celebrities who have paid to have their clones raised in this facility.
And so this is one of the scenes where the cloned man there is having his organs harvested.
I mean, we don't have to continue to show the whole thing.
But my point is that you mentioned this technology could be used for paraplegics.
And that's the way they always start marketing this.
They say, oh, it's going to help people who are physically handicapped or physically impaired or veterans.
Like, here's a veteran who was wounded, and we're going to help these veterans.
And, of course, we're all for that, Sarah.
We're all for that.
But you know that the people behind the tech, that's not where they're going to stop.
They're going to then soon be making clone robots or whatever.
And the same thing, or clone soldiers...
But robot dogs, same thing.
It's like, oh, here's a cute little robot puppy dog, and it can do backflips, and it can talk to you.
But what they're really building is the technology to make doggy drone robot, like kamikaze drone self-exploding dog bots.
Everything gets weaponized.
Yeah, because what they do is they compartmentalize the scientists, and the scientists are all excited, thinking they're going to be doing something good for humanity.
And then once they get it done, they're like, okay, thank you, we'll take it from here.
Yeah, then it goes into the military-industrial complex.
That's right.
Thank you, we'll take it from here.
And the scientists are like, well, we didn't...
We didn't know we were creating that.
That's why the awareness has to be there.
But I don't necessarily want to take away some of these good applications for paraplegics or people being able to see again.
But at the same standpoint, or let's think about organ harvesting, the organ trade.
We have this black market where they're actually taking people and harvesting live organs, and it's a huge black market.
Could they grow organs?
But could they grow organs...
Not by growing a person, but could they grow organs in a little tube or something and just grow the organ?
I mean, these are the kinds of things that scientists should be working on.
don't kill people.
So we have to, but I don't know how you get around this.
These are the solutions that we need smart, intelligent people on the inside, making sure they're safeguarded so that red lines don't get crossed.
Well, but red lines, as you know, always get crossed.
And in that movie, The Island, the clones were not called people.
They were called product.
These are the product.
So there's a dehumanization.
You talk about enhancing or helping to restore organs in people who are wounded.
But then there's the question of augmentation, of having augmented reality contact lenses that change people's reality.
And then there's a central computer somewhere that can project onto your reality things that they want you to see.
Like you're driving down the road And then there's all these messages that show up in your vision, in your contact lenses, messages that say, oh, don't shop there.
That business supports Trump or whatever.
I mean, it could be anything.
Yeah, it could be anything.
And they plant ideas into your head.
You know, one of the things is that the mind, you know, like let's say you get an artificial limb, one of the problems is that the science or the computer data can transfer the data to this limb faster than it can translate it to your regular arm.
So they're worried that you're going to feel like you're slow in one arm because this other arm is so much faster, the artificial one.
So next thing you know, people want artificial limbs because your artificial limb functions better.
I mean, so at what point are we going to be...
We want to be Borgs.
We just are entering in a whole other territory that people have no idea what they're entering into.
I put this in the series, the scene in the Matrix where we're all sitting in these people are in the pods with this neural link in their head.
You know, honestly, most of the technology to do that is pretty much here or being worked on.
Yes.
Where we could literally be in a pod, connect to a neural link, in a hive mind mentality, and be used as batteries.
I mean, literally, we could be that way.
Even if people aren't physically in a matrix pod, they're plugged in like this all day long on their phone, plugged into like CNN. Which is nothing but lies 24-7.
And so people's neurology is already controlled.
I mean, this is how we've seen people in society today that have built an artificial construct in their mind, where they think, for example, that a biological man can become a woman.
And then we even hear that like a child can be surgically altered to change their gender.
You just have to cut off these certain parts and throw them away and make new holes or whatever.
It's completely insane, but this is the way they talk.
Well, and they've inversed reality on this because back in, I did, you know, medical tourism.
Back 10 years ago, I did a show how the Middle East had the best transgender surgery.
I don't know about today.
I haven't looked into it today.
But 10 years ago, they did because they didn't accept people being gay or lesbian.
If you were that, you go and get transgender surgery.
So they were the best in the world at it.
I don't know how it's any different than what we have today.
I mean, they didn't want them to reproduce.
They just wanted them to go away and be what they are.
And that's the exact opposite of accepting people and your body for what you are, right?
We have essentially implemented the Middle East attitude here in our country and then brainwashed people to think that changing your body is accepting who you are.
I know that there's a small little percentage that might benefit because they have some kind of psychosis or something that rejects their body.
I don't know.
You can have an adult conversation amongst psychologists and actually really analyze it, but the vast majority of the people...
We need to learn how to accept their body for who they are, and they are brainwashing these people that rejecting your body is accepting who you are.
It's backwards.
It's inversed.
Well, right, but that gets to the question of augmentation.
So, you know, that's a hormonal alteration, a chemical alteration, and a surgical alteration.
It's an experimental, yes.
Right, but then if you extend that, then it's going to become electronic, right?
So you're going to have, I mean, this sounds odd, but you're going to have like a transgender, like a biological woman to become a biological man and then have like a penis implant that's wired to her or his new brain or, you know, I mean, you're gonna get people that want all kinds of electronic implants to try to engage in whatever, and it's like, where's the humanity in this?
Well, I think it's the beginning of transhumanism, and that's where you're going with this.
Is this the experimentation of messing with our minds so that we are ready to accept transhumanism and become whoever we want to be?
And convincing people that you can be whatever you want.
You can change yourself to be whatever you want.
That's transhumanism.
You can be a cat.
What are those furry things?
It's just stupid.
My kids actually had someone in their school that wore a tail because they were part of the furry.
They identified as a cat.
There's a furry thing going on in this country.
Something weird.
That's the beginning of transhumanism.
You can be whatever you want.
Okay.
I'm assuming that's the transition that they're going.
But what's interesting is that that whole narrative is also the result of the fifth generation warfare assault on our psyche that you've been talking about here.
How is it that people even believe that a man can become a woman or a man can get pregnant?
How do they even believe that?
It's because of the psychological warfare that's already been inflicted upon them.
You have to get into a pretend universe to believe that a man can get pregnant.
You have to suspend your understanding of reality, create a new reality that's artificial to believe that I'm a man.
I can just say I'm a man.
You're not.
And so we have made it acceptable to these young kids.
I mean, there's whole generations of kids that really believe this.
I mean, if you spend time with college kids that are in those environments...
They are seriously brainwashed.
And I don't we have some work to do to get.
And I've spent some time with them and they believe that in they're in these circles and especially the kids that aren't really well accepted.
They weren't like a jack in school.
They weren't accepted.
They're looking for their their group and their tribe.
And they maybe are a little confused sexually and they end up accepting all this crap.
And now they have somebody that accepts them for who they are.
And then they get brainwashed.
I'm serious.
And I've spent time with these kids.
And it's really, really hard.
You give them information and you give them studies and they just don't want anything to do with it.
Because they know through all their brainwashing.
They know.
They got these studies.
These studies are accurate.
The stuff you're showing us is biased.
So we have a lot of work to do.
Well, yeah, true.
But I think a lot of this is an extension of how much people have immersed their consciousness into these artificial worlds of social media and technology.
And because in social media, you can be whoever you want to be.
You can have an avatar.
You can pretend to be a man or a woman or whatever.
And I'm sure people do that all the time, right?
Yeah.
I'm sure they do.
Right.
And so it's kind of an extension of that.
It's to think that the real world mimics the artificial world, and therefore you can just change yourself by wishing it.
And so it just speaks to the dangers of living so deeply into the synthetic reality.
It is.
And I think that's what they're trying to do.
The universities, they get caught up into this.
And so we need a movement.
You know, one of the solutions is we need a movement of smart, capable people with integrity who will start to really change this around.
And I know that the Christians are trying to do that, but I think it needs to go way beyond being a Christian movement and being a movement so we can bring in everyone we can to start bringing sanity back to our universities and sanity back to how we're implementing all this stuff within our institutions.
I live in Minnesota, which is one of the most extreme And when it comes to some of these legislation, it's the most extreme in the world.
And they're actually using this area as an experiment to see how far they can take these things.
And we need smart, rational, sane people to come in and say enough and really turn this around.
Go ahead.
Is there a point where the artificial world crashes for people?
Is there some kind of triggering event where people awaken from the slumber and they're like, whoa, or the spell is broken, maybe is a better thing?
Well, I think, you know, when it comes to transgender, I think that's just a matter of time because the people that I was talking to have been completely, I think, brainwashed.
I sent them, there's a group of 54,000 people who are part of this de-transitioning group who started the transition to be a transgender and realized that this was not for them and now they're suffering through all the hormones and all the crap that they went through and they're de-transitioning.
And I think that's the crash that's going to happen.
If you're transitioning people who haven't been vetted, right?
There are studies that show that if you really filter out the people who really could use it, less than 1% of the people regret it.
If you don't put them through this really intense filtering process...
80% of the people regret getting the surgery.
And that's, I don't know how much it will go up to as time goes on even further, because this hasn't been a super long-term study.
So you have a lot of people who are going to be regretting this.
That is a disaster waiting to happen.
It's going to crash on itself.
You can't have 54,000 people detransitioning and not being a canary in the coal mine.
Well, what would happen, speaking of a crash of the artificial, what would happen if the power grid went down in America and stayed down for a few weeks and people did not have internet access, didn't have their mobile phone, didn't have social media at all?
What would that look like?
Wouldn't that be interesting?
I mean, some people say that if the grid goes down that we're really in trouble because of the food situation.
So there's some scary things with that so that our infrastructure may go down and it could get really scary.
But what would it look like for people who are in this artificial world and could they reconnect with the world around them?
I don't know.
In a lot of ways, that is the solution.
Getting children, because their brains, they've done studies, it shows that the children's brains actually get wired differently when they're on their computer all the time or using their phone all the time.
And the solution to get their brain to be wired back normally.
all electronics, take them out into nature.
I mean, they even have like camping and they have retreats for the summer just to rewire these kids brains.
So they're back to a normal functioning person, human.
Right.
I mean, that's probably what we need to do.
Right.
I mean, that's the medical solution for it.
I suppose.
I mean, I spend time in nature every day for that very reason.
It's an hour of sanity versus an insane world of what's happening online and breaking news and all crazy people saying crazy things.
But we live in an interconnected society, and if the Internet were to go down, there are...
I mean, maybe one positive repercussion would be what you're talking about, that people would be forced to interact with the real world.
But you would also have, of course...
Food shortages immediately, right?
Because you couldn't have e-commerce working correctly.
You couldn't have online payments.
Grocery stores wouldn't get their food.
I mean, gas stations couldn't really order and deliver gas.
You would have a collapse of society in addition, right?
So there's also a very dark side to it.
There is.
That's the scary part is the grid going down is a very real situation.
But like you were saying, Wi-Fi really affects our blood.
I mean, if you look at how Wi-Fi affects our biology, it coagulates.
It's not healthy for us.
But one of the solutions is to use frequencies that harmonize with their bodies.
They do have the ability to do some of this.
And, you know, that could come from the source, whether it's right from the telecom or from your router.
We can make solutions.
Engineers can develop better solutions that can make EMS that harmonize with their bodies.
We have a lot of work to do in that front.
But that doesn't solve the problem of your brain's These young kids' brains actually developing.
Kind of like if you learn a language before the age of 12, your brain is wired differently.
They're finding the same thing with children that are using technology constantly.
Their brains are wired differently.
And we have to identify that.
Parents need to identify that.
Schools need to identify that.
And we need to focus on development.
We have all these technologies to read people's brains.
I mean, we know what the brain waves are.
Make sure that their brains are developing properly.
If they're missing something in the brain development, let's make sure they get it.
We have the technology to do that.
Well, yeah.
And, you know, like today's youth, sometimes they might ask, well, What would we do without social media?
What would we do without technology?
And, of course, guys my age were like, well, you know, when I was in high school, we sat in the parking lot on the hood of a Trans Am and played Def Leppard and talked to each other.
I mean, that's what we did.
Dared each other to drink a beer, you know?
But it was real.
It was social.
It was direct.
We didn't need electronics.
We didn't have electronics.
And we're actually...
We're more balanced than a lot of the kids today.
We lived in the real world.
We played sports.
We ran around.
We got in trouble, but we were at least doing things.
It was kind of a naive, innocent trouble we got into.
We're lucky we're all alive.
But we were hanging out with our friends every night.
That's what...
Kids do, but now they're not doing that anymore, and their social skills are terrible.
I taught at the university, you know, at the Carlson Business School for five years, and I was floored at the difference at...
What these kids' abilities were and also how much they needed their hands to be held.
This was back in 2016.
And how much they expected you to...
We didn't get that kind of hand-holding, but they expect it today.
The stress levels...
I remember I had a woman who had a PhD in dealing with stress and various issues like that.
She came in and talked to my class and I was thinking, oh, we'll see how this goes.
She was a friend of mine.
I was absolutely, my jaw opened at how much the kids appreciated it because the anxiety levels and the stress levels are so high in these generations.
That was 2016.
And they were so thankful.
And so I did that every single semester.
I had her come in after that because the kids were so thankful helping them develop methods to deal with stress and anxiety.
Back in our day, we just didn't have those kind of issues.
It's a different world for these kids.
Yeah, it really is.
We're almost out of time here, Sarah.
We've covered a lot of really interesting ground, that's for sure.
But most of our audience are not kids.
They're mature adults, and they value their privacy.
They're concerned about 5G towers.
They're concerned about electropollution.
I'd like to ask you, as we wrap this up, what would be your bookend advice here for the listeners of just what's the most important simple thing they can do to protect themselves in this era of invasive tech?
Well, invasive tech, make sure you have some EMF devices that create the EMFs that are hitting your body.
There's devices that, and we sold it with Brighton University with the package, if you got the Mind Control 5th Generation Warfare package, where the devices actually absorb And it makes it so that it absorbs it and changes it so it harmonizes with your body.
That's really important.
Your nutrition levels.
I know you sell a lot of things that help people with nutrition and also detoxing.
That's super important.
Get this crap out of your system.
I work with Masterpiece who are doing trials and they have found and they were waiting to get this next trial back, but their baseline, they always do a baseline.
The baseline from, I think their first trial was like six months ago.
Six months later, the heavy metals and microplastics are 30% higher in the baseline individuals that they have now.
That means that geoengineering or whatever is falling on this is worse than it was just six months previously.
That needs to be looked into, but they're very high.
This needs to get out of our system.
And then awareness, awareness, awareness.
If you're aware of this, You will be less likely to be affected by it.
And then turn it off.
Don't let your emotions take control.
When you see a big event, know that they're going to, all sides, even the good side, everybody's going to use this event for their purpose.
Whatever the event is, get yourself back out of it.
Don't let your emotions control you.
And try to think rationally because as soon as your emotions take over, you're not going to be rational in doing things that are beneficial.
And the last thing we need is any kind of honesty.
Or anything crazy going on.
And the only way we're going to get past that is to make sure that we are rational and not let these things affect us.
So those are the basics, I would say.
And also, de-Google yourself.
Use private networks as much as possible.
Use private browsers.
Just be smart.
If you can use gold, silver, cryptos, just use things that are outside of the system as much as possible and protect yourself.
Yeah, and don't use mainstream tech platforms.
I mean, get off Google.
Get off Facebook and YouTube.
Use alternative platforms where freedom is still, you know, embraced and you're not going to be surveilled in the same way.
So, Sarah, let me just give out your website again.
SarahWestall.com is the site.
And Sarah, I just want to thank you for joining us today.
Let me just show your site.
Yeah, homepage.
And you've got articles and interviews and so much more.
A lot of interesting stuff there.
So thank you for joining us and thank you for speaking out about all these issues, Sarah.
It's always a pleasure speaking with you.
Thank you, Mike, and I have to have you come on my show.
I really appreciate it.
Oh, absolutely.
I'd love to be on your show anytime.
Set it up with our producers and happy to come on.
Thank you.
Okay, yeah, thank you too, Sarah.
All right, have a great day and thank all of you for watching.
Again, it was Sarah Westall from sarahwestall.com.
I'm Mike Adams with brighttown.com.
Thank you for watching today.
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