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Aug. 1, 2024 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Mike Adams interviews Nick Pineault on EMF radiation effects on human health...
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Alright, welcome to today's interview on Brighteon.com.
And today our special guest is an expert.
Let's put together a docuseries about EMF, electropollution, the effects of electromagnetic devices on your physiology and so much more.
His name is Nick Pinot and he joins us today to talk about this docuseries and why everybody needs to become aware of these solutions as our society is becoming more and more electrified.
So welcome Nick to the show today.
Thanks so much for having me, Mike.
It's an honor, really.
It's great to have you here.
I appreciate you taking the time with us.
And we're going to be streaming your docuseries on Bright Town University.
We'll talk about that in a minute.
But give us a little bit.
It's called the EMF Hazards Summit.
But give us a little bit, since this is the first time that we've spoken, about your background, your involvement in this docuseries, and why you chose this, why you think this is important for society.
Sure.
You know, it's been three years since I've been putting together these summits, online events featuring different experts such as EMF scientists and doctors that are aware of this problem.
And the problem of EMF is electromagnetic fields, but we can really refer to it as electropollution.
This new type of human-made radiation That has really never been experienced in nature by humans or anything that is natural and living.
And I'm talking about what is emitted from phones to cell towers to Wi-Fi routers, Bluetooth technologies, but also just the fact that we are surrounded by electricity.
And all of these types of radiations are increasingly linked with different symptoms and illness in the population.
So I've been doing this work as a citizen journalist for eight years, but now this is the third edition of the EMF Hazard Summit, and this one is focused on something called electrosensitivity.
And this is a fairly new phenomenon that has been seen in the last 30 years, but That really has exploded in the last decade and especially the last five years, according to some doctors I was able to interview, since that rollout of 5G that so many people talked about, this fifth generation of cellular networks.
There's been a huge increase in how many people come to these EMF doctors or EMF aware doctors and say, doctor, I don't know what's wrong with me, but since the installation of this 5G tower, I don't feel good.
I don't sleep good.
And this is really where we focused our attention this year in the EMF hazard summit.
So we've covered many stories of electropollution and where there are documented physiological effects.
For example, some people when they get around a really powerful motor like a treadmill, they will show diabetic type of symptoms or they will become hypoglycemic.
And it's always around electric motors.
And for some people, that's going to be electric vehicles too, by the way.
But can you confirm or even just sort of give us examples of some of the physiological effects that you've seen?
Sure.
One of the most telltale signs is really loss of sleep.
Some people cannot sleep even near a cell phone or would wake up in the middle of the night or would have just poor quality of sleep.
So that's one Of the symptoms that is often seen.
Others are not that easy to pinpoint that, you know, radiation is the sole cause here.
So, for example, depression or anxiety, it's kind of something that can develop over years.
However, there are some clear symptoms that for some people, they can do the correlation or they can see causality between that exposure and a symptom.
For example, headaches.
It's clear for some people that when they talk on a phone, they get a headache or migraine, even worse.
And when they stop doing so, there's no headache, right?
So in that case, you know that it is caused by that.
But in reality, there are some exposures that are not just your cell phone, but the installation of these towers that can kind of, at first, not necessarily cause any symptom in the population.
And that's seen in seven...
Different case studies that have came out in the last three years by Professor Leonard Hardell and journalist Mona Nielsen in Sweden.
And they have seven peer-reviewed case studies of people that have gotten sick within weeks to months after the installation of 5G towers.
So these are not people that are electrosensitive per se.
So that's even more dangerous in a sense.
They don't feel necessarily that they're impacted by a phone or Wi-Fi router.
But after just a few weeks and in some cases a few months, their health starts degrading fast.
And we're just talking about something that really resembles chronic fatigue.
You know, you just don't have energy.
You don't feel well.
Your hormonal profile can be all over the place.
And you're just sick.
You're sick as if you have a constant bout of the flu.
And these people, the good news, in a sense, is that within these seven case studies, when people get out of, you know, the Let's say the main, very intense plume of this 5G tower and they move elsewhere or they move their job elsewhere, well, they do get well.
But it's kind of...
How can I put this?
It's an incredible reality that some people are now getting sick from these exposures and you cannot even have legal recourse against the insulation of these towers, even though these dangers are now being shown in scientific studies.
So that's a crazy situation.
I would say, Nick, that this is one of the things I wanted to ask you was about how the telecom industry has absolutely controlled the medical research and the narratives surrounding this.
And they've said it's always safe.
There's no issues.
It reminds me of what Monsanto used to do before they were bought by Bayer with glyphosate.
They were infiltrating the science journals.
They were Ghost writing stories and then they were paying scientists to put their names on papers, for example.
It was a complete racket, a total scientific fraud, but they dominated that space to say that glyphosate is completely safe and doesn't harm anybody and you can eat as much as you want.
It seems to me like the telecom industry is doing the exact same thing in many ways.
What do you think?
Well, you know, it's not what I think.
The facts are there that the telecom industry has been controlling the narrative from the get-go.
And in fact, they funded most of the early studies in the 80s and 90s, but they quickly fired or defunded the scientists when the effects were found.
For example, a strong correlation between using a phone and developing a brain tumor.
They were happy to provide funding, but the moment that, of course, the results of these studies that were funded by the telecom industry goes against the telecom industry, well, of course, corporate greed at its highest.
They shut down everything.
And then they also control the regulators.
In fact, the FCC, the Federal Communication Commission in the US, that is supposed to regulate the health and safety of these devices is completely controlled by the industry.
And one of the heads of the FCC, who was, I think, maybe the prior head of the FCC prior to this latest one, Swore to destroy the FCC from the inside out.
And he was previously at the CTIA, which is the main lobby group for the telecom industry.
So that's the exact same scenario as Monsanto and the EPA or Big Tobacco and other regulatory agencies.
These three-letter agencies are completely controlled by the industry they're supposed to regulate.
And even the FCC, it went to court in 2021 And the FCC lost in course, and the judges were very surprised that the FCC simply did not review the scientific studies that are the latest ones when it comes to determination of health risks.
And they lost, but they've been stalling the case for over three years now.
So some scientists are saying that in the last three years, since 2021, We essentially have no safety limits for EMFs in the US. And I could claim that the same is true for the entire world because our limits are based on the wrong assumptions.
One of these assumptions is that, well, this is non-ionizing radiation and you always hear that.
And, you know, it's low-level radiation.
It doesn't burn us.
It cannot cook an egg or anything like that.
Well, that's not the point.
We're talking about the low intensity effects over time.
But the fact that our safety studies or safety limits have been determined on a few minutes of exposure on a few animals is completely unacceptable because now we have a large fraction of the population that is surrounded by these 24-7, including children or unborn fetuses.
So Our safety limits at this point are completely laughable.
Let's talk about also the fact that there are multiple exposures happening simultaneously.
A typical person in modern society, even a child, when they're sleeping in their bed at night, they may have a breaker box right near their bed, for example.
You might say, well, okay, that's just one thing.
But then they're on their phone and they're getting 5G from the moment they wake up.
And then they're using Bluetooth on top of that.
And then, you know, they're getting in an electric vehicle and they have a strong magnetic motor or multiple motors.
And so on and so forth.
And to my knowledge, but you correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think there have been any studies that look at multiple simultaneous exposures and what might be the aggregate effects.
That's completely correct.
It's the same problem in the chemical toxicity industry where you could test glyphosate in isolation and find a safe dose.
You're a pioneer with your work around environmental toxins and foods and whatnot.
Of course, if you take the synergies between different environmental toxins on a single apple or what could be in a salad, then you get in trouble because you simply don't know exactly what is doing when there are synergistic effects between toxin A and B and C. The same can be true when it comes to one cell tower plus another one plus a hundred different ones in your city.
Plus, the thousands of Wi-Fi routers in your vicinity.
And of course, there are many different things that we decide to put in our houses, including phones and laptops and tablets and Bluetooth this and that.
And there are crazy things.
Crazy connectivity gadgets these days where you can have everything Bluetooth.
So the additive effect of these things is unknown.
All we know is that even one single device in certain studies is enough to cause biological harm.
So it is extremely likely that when you have multiple devices, you have even more harm.
What is especially interesting is that when scientists single out the studies where they use real cell phones and real Wi-Fi routers, all of these studies shows harm.
When they single out the studies where they use signal generators, which is supposed to be the equivalent of a cell phone, then most studies show no effect.
So one might say that this is almost a sham or a scam from the industry that is funding these no effect studies.
And to this day, many scientists I've interviewed think that the scientific literature is being obscured by these studies.
studies that are funded by the telecoms.
And they will, of course, point out, just like Big Tobacco did, that the literature is mixed.
There are some studies that say there's harm, and some say don't.
But the real studies that are made with real biological living systems and real exposures from real phones, almost 100% of them find harm.
So really, there are a lot of dirty tricks that are being played on a scientific standpoint.
And when you talk to the independent people, it's very clear that the harm is happening.
Yeah.
But sadly, big tech relies on telecom And big tech has a ton of money, and so does the telecom industry, and there are telecom giants that own corporate media, so they control the news, they control the narrative, they control, you know, big tech controls the search results, they control social media, what videos are allowed, and so on.
And so these kinds of conversations are widely suppressed.
You're not allowed to even ask the questions that you and I are asking right now.
And that's why we are featuring your docu-series at Bright Town University.
It begins, folks, on August 10th.
So if you go to brightu.com, you go to brightu.com and you register free of charge.
Just enter your email address and you'll be able to watch this completely free.
There's a new episode each day.
It runs for nine or ten days.
And you also have the option, of course, to purchase the entire docu-series if you're If you wish, you can download it all, watch it on your own schedule, and have the files locally, and help support the work of people like Nick here and his efforts.
Or you can just watch the whole thing for free, but you're going to learn a lot of things.
Now, Nick...
Well, again, the website, brightu.com.
Just get that out there.
But, Nick...
Why do so many people want to become cyborgs and they electrify everything in their lives and they have homes where even their front door lock is controlled by a Google algorithm?
And even in this recent CrowdStrike IT apocalypse thing that happened, some people were locked out of their refrigerators.
And I'm like, why do you have a refrigerator that can lock you out if there's an IT failure somewhere else?
What's your take on this?
Why do people want to have electronic controls and cloud-based controls over everything in their life?
Why do people eat junk food day after day after day?
You know, it's convenience.
In my mind, it's really, if you give people the option to have things that are done for them and that are controlled with the touch of a button, it is a very seductive proposition for them.
And that's unfortunate because, of course, they don't tell you about these potential harms.
They don't tell you about the radiation.
They don't tell you about the fact that it's hackable.
For example, there's this casino, I don't recall if it's in Las Vegas or another city, that was hacked and lost money because the hackers were able to hack through a Bluetooth sensor in a fish pond or a fish tank.
So imagine, correct.
These security protocols sometimes are just leaking left and right.
So there's that also.
So if you don't want your information to be stolen, there's a reason to go away from these so-called smart technologies because they're full of security risks.
And there's also the fact that if there's something that is like that happens like a power failure or a hurricane or, you know, an emergency situation for your family, then you get locked out of your fridge and your front door.
And there's all sorts of troubles that are related to that.
So your your preparedness and your ability to just survive in this world, in a sense, is becoming thinner and thinner.
So it is also a hazard in that sense.
So in my mind, it's a question of convenience.
But you know what the crazy thing is?
There are technologies that can be hardwired and you circumvent most of these problems.
It's just that these are not the technologies that are trending right now because of the wireless route is what people think about first, really.
Yeah, good point.
You can go hardline Ethernet in your home, for example, and stop using Wi-Fi routers, and then you're not exposed to all of that electromagnetic pollution.
But, you know, it seems to me that people are becoming more and more aware of this problem.
That's for sure.
And what about doctors, though?
Is word spreading about electrosensitivity throughout the medical system?
I'd say, I mean, I think it's outside the system.
What we're seeing is a lot of doctors giving away their license or acting as consultants or health coaches instead of doctors.
That's a lot of people I connect to, especially since the last four years, have kind of quit the medical system, but they're still there.
So maybe that's just a You know, a difference in their mentalities there.
But what I see is that people that are holistically minded, more and more they understand that EMF is an environmental toxin.
And my goal from the get-go when I started in 2016 with this work was that I realized a lot of people know that, you know, if you have arsenic and other heavy metals or BPA and BPB and glyphosate in your food, that's not good.
And we should aim to minimize it.
But a lot of the same people who knew about these other environmental toxins through our food or air or through water...
Did not recognize that EMF is a problem.
So I think it's part of almost the propaganda that we've been fed that everything is safe.
And also the fact that even these doctors that are holistically minded, they use phones, they use Wi-Fi.
So it's kind of scary to think about these risks.
But the reality is that a lot of doctors now are seeing these patients or are experiencing themselves that they feel better.
They feel healthier, stronger, they sleep better, their hormonal profiles are better when they start reducing exposure.
I'm not talking about complete elimination here.
And that's what makes a lot of people disconnect from this topic is, okay, well, Nick, are you telling me I gotta live in the woods, no cell phone, no computer, no internet?
That's not it.
But wired technologies over wireless and then a reduction, a prudent reduction in exposure is doable and is doable in a realistic manner that still keeps you connected to this world that, you know, where the internet is also...
Powerful in the sense that we can share the right information on the internet.
So I'm all for it.
The internet is the reason I'm able to do this work, right?
So I still work on a computer when I'm at home.
Now I'm traveling so I have other means of Trying to minimize my exposure, but when I'm at home, I am hardwired.
I've turned off Wi-Fi indefinitely seven years ago before my kid was born, and I never looked back, and we have wires that go to our different gadgets.
That's a bit of a conversation starter if I have relatives over and they say, well, Nick, what's your Wi-Fi password?
And I say, no Wi-Fi here, folks.
And that's kind of a radical thing to say.
In this day and age, however, it does not mean that I'm unable to live with technology.
It just means that I'm doing things slightly differently.
Yeah, well, I'm glad you're talking about solutions, and I want to get to that in more detail because that's what people are really looking for.
But first, I want to ask you about mechanisms of harm because I'm aware, I've covered this in the past, that whenever there is current, even low-level...
Electric current that penetrates into your tissues, and it goes into your body, and you know 5G signals, they go through walls, they penetrate your body and your tissues, they're designed to do that, and many other signals do as well.
And so they actually impart When that current happens, one of the things that I know is that it produces what are called peroxiditrites, which are very dangerous free radicals that are associated with cancer rates, for example.
So you don't even need ionization of chromosomes in order to cause cancer.
All you need is the low-level constant exposure that creates free radicals that then contribute to cancer over time.
And that's consistent with what you've been talking about, but speak to us about mechanisms of harm that are known that you cover in your docuseries.
For sure.
The key here is oxidative stress.
It is the fact that our bodies respond in a manner to these unnatural frequencies in a manner that is uncontrollable, that is almost a sort of defensive mechanism, if you will.
But basically, how to think about this is that It's not the cell that gets direct DNA damage.
We know this does not happen.
What happens could be said to be indirect DNA damage.
So when you have an exposure, it affects certain parts of the cell.
So you have to zoom into the cell to try to understand what is happening.
How could this be that a relatively It's not a level that would be high enough to cause instant damage like nuclear radiation or very high amounts of cancer-causing oxidative stress like x-rays.
But over time, it is enough to cause an effect.
And for some people, more than others.
And the primary mechanism that we know is that certain ion channels that shuttle certain minerals in and out of the cell, for example, the calcium channels, but also the potassium channels and sodium channels are affected.
These channels get disrupted.
And if they get disrupted, then that shuttling of minerals in and out of the cell gets disrupted too, and the result of that is oxidative stress.
Oxidative stress is at the very basis of aging.
It's at the very basis of all known illnesses.
If you type oxidative stress and any sort of illness or any sort of condition or symptom in PubMed, you would realize that our study, our global understanding of oxidative stress puts it at the very bottom of How I think about electrical pollution and harm these days is really it's a huge stressor.
And if you expose yourself more, for example, you live right next to a 5G tower that literally is the equivalent of Having several cell phones strapped to your body 24-7, then you can imagine what sort of stress this is for your cells.
And you can imagine why certain people are literally falling into almost chronic fatigue within a few weeks.
So if you are barely exposed to electropollution and you are prudent about your exposures and you live in nature far away from cell towers, then maybe these exposures are things you can recover from.
But When you are in a city and you use your cell phone very frequently on your ear and you keep a cell phone in your pocket, near your heart, near your genitalia, you can understand why these exposures are linked to certain things in the medical literature.
For example, men who keep a phone in the pocket are that much more likely to see their sperm count drop down, their sperm quality drop down, and also their testosterone production drop down.
And over time, certain people are experiencing symptoms related to electrosensitivity, and that's when it becomes, it's almost like an allergy that gets worse over time, where certain people can talk for a minute on the phone and then get the headache, but then a month later, it's 30 seconds, and a month later, it's, I get a headache whenever I live in a city.
And this is where it becomes problematic because imagine being sensitive to these signals to the point where you cannot go in a city.
Now it means that you are very, very restricted in your freedom and in what you can do with your life.
And this is really the type of patients that are seen by doctors featured in EMF hazards where some of these people were fine in a city at first and maybe they could handle their phone for a few minutes per day, but over time Their health degraded as their level of sensitivity or, let's say, reactiveness to EMS went up and it made it to a point where they almost felt like there's nowhere to run.
And this is really the most extreme situation that with EMF hazards and this summit, I wanted to make sure that people who do not feel particularly sensitive to this radiation yet never get to this point where they become hypersensitive.
Because it's, you know, it's not something I like to talk about that often, but there's one electrohypersensitive individual who reached out to me at the beginning of my work in 2017, and a year later, she took her life.
And it's still...
It still puts me almost a lump in the throat when I talk about Maria August.
And she was simply so sick that she had zero joy of living.
And I remember she was living, you know, she was trying to avoid the radiation exposure, living in the woods, being helped by her mother, who was almost in her 80s.
And in the end, she was like, okay, well, I'm done with this life.
And some individuals are almost reaching the point of no return with how little they can handle this radiation.
So my hope is that we can each try to stay as healthy as possible and never get this sensitive.
And it's not the destiny that I wish on anyone, really.
So Nick, as you know, I'm a food scientist and I focus on nutrition and I believe that nutrition has a very important role in protecting us from the oxidative stress that you're describing.
And so I think that if you have really good nutrition and you have strong immune function and good hydration so that your cells can move toxins out and get nutrition into the inner body, Through the cell membrane, then you're going to be much better off.
But we live in a society where the vast majority of people are eating junk food, processed food, and so they're already nutrient depleted from the get-go, which maybe in the 1980s, before there were all these mobile phones and Bluetooth and Wi-Fi and all that stuff, maybe in the 1980s they actually would have been A lot better off, even living on more processed foods.
But now you combine those two things, processed junk foods, nutrient depletion, plus chronic heavy exposure to multiple fields of electromagnetic radiation.
Then, now you have the perfect storm for oxidative damage, cancers, fatigue, all these things you're talking about.
Does that make sense?
It makes a lot of sense, and we have several speakers.
There's Darren Olin, who told me the story of his multiple chemical sensitivity father, who was one of the first individuals to be recognized as such.
And the reality is that many people who feel that they have some sort of sensitivity to smells or perfumes or certain chemicals also get a sensitivity to other things.
And one of the doctors I interviewed, Dr.
Neil Nathan, told me, Electrosensitivity never goes in isolation.
It never comes alone.
Multiple times you have food allergies.
Multiple times you have certain things in tap water that you've been talking about for decades, Mike.
And I must say I was a huge fan of food forensics because I started studying this type of stuff after reading you in 2009.
So for me, it's exactly the perfect storm.
And you also have to consider other environmental exposures in the home are getting worse.
There's mold toxicity that is getting worse in certain parts.
Especially with mold-damaged buildings.
But I think that our ability to handle that mold and to live in environments that were stressful before and maybe we were feeling just fine, I think this ability is going down for most people for the reasons that you talked about.
We don't get enough nutrients and the nutrients are literally what can, in a sense, help mop up the damage or prevent the damage from happening, including good levels of glutathione, these internal antioxidants that are inside us.
So part of the solution really to handle EMS is to make yourself stronger on all levels.
And the other level of solution is to try to minimize your exposure in the first place.
but these two different strategies need to be talked about.
Absolutely.
I think you've nailed it right there, is reduce exposure and then boost your nutritional defenses against the oxidative damage, the stress, and so on.
Let me just remind people the website to register to watch this series free of charge is Brighteon University, which is brightu.com.
Just go to bright.
It's like the word bright and the letter U, brightu.com.
And you can register there to watch it free of charge.
It begins August 10th, and it streams for 10 days.
And there's another episode, a new episode each of those 10 days.
You can, of course, optionally purchase the entire docuseries to support Nick's work, help support this platform, and also download all the files and watch them on your own time.
You can even actually purchase this before it begins streaming, if you wish.
If you want to watch it right now, just go to brightu.com, and you'll see the entire course is available there for purchase.
So, Nick, thank you for allowing us to be able to stream this course.
I want to get back to something you said earlier.
You were talking about the cellular, well, the cell membranes and the absorption of minerals.
And it triggered for me, I recall, a term that's either called ion-gated calcium channels or voltage-gated calcium channels, VGCC.
And it triggered for me, I recall a term that's either called ion-gated calcium channels or voltage-gated calcium channels, VGCC.
And because I've done articles on this too, and what people need to understand is that the selective porosity of the cell membrane is critical to your survival because it determines which minerals come in and which minerals are pushed out.
And some of those minerals, like potassium, are used as water pumps to hydrate your cells and then to push out waste products and so on.
Now, the presence of voltage alters the cellular permeability for certain minerals, and it can cause either a toxic effect of too much permeability, like too much calcium coming into a cell can be toxic, you know, like too much calcium coming into a cell can be You can't overload on calcium.
That can kill you, even though you need it for lots of functions, but you need it in the right amounts.
And your body has that natural wisdom to know that and to function properly.
But you start adding voltage, like penetrating of 5G signals in your body, then you can have all sorts of weird things going wrong.
So I just want to bring that up, Nick, your comments on the voltage gating of calcium channels and other mineral channels.
I think this is the key.
You know, one of the most important EMF scientists alive at the moment is Dr. Dimitri.
Dimitris J. Panagopoulos from the University of Athens.
And I've been in communication with him.
He's a biophysicist.
And he told me, you know, the main reason that people keep repeating, oh, there's no mechanism of damage that is known.
There's no mechanism.
All the mechanisms...
are sufficient and sufficiently published in the peer-reviewed literature for anyone to read.
And it's available on the internet.
So it's really an excuse that some people have It's really kind of a cop-out to keep repeating there's no mechanism.
The mechanisms are known, they're well-established, and the biophysics are fairly clear.
It is simply how I see it, to put it very simply in my mind, it is a sort of interference.
Imagine you have a phone and you have an AM radio and you hear screeching whenever there's a phone call.
Well, the same thing is happening, except one is a cell phone and this is your human cells.
And there's interference.
That's a type of biological interference.
And this is really where it gets concerning.
You know, if you play around with the balance of calcium or potassium or sodium in a cell, you can literally cause any effect.
You can cause cancer long-term, the creation of tumor because there's, for example, it could reduce your ability to repair tissue or it could cause DNA damage.
Or it could promote tumors, tumor creation, for example.
But if you put it next to a brain or a developing fetus, for example, it could impair the fetus ability to create a normal brain.
So some EMS scientists have proposed, for example, that the epidemic of ADD, ADHD, or even the epidemic of autism that we're seeing might be linked to EMS. And personally, I don't believe that There's a single stressor for a single illness, But I do believe that the perfect storm you talked about or, you know, the analogy of the stress bucket is good where the bucket doesn't really show any symptom if it's not overflowing.
But when you add glyphosate and EMS and mold and everything else, that all these factors that have been increasing in the last decades, then you see an explosion of disease.
And anyone who has been paying attention to any amount of data in the last decades has seen that all of these mystery illnesses are exploding.
And, you know, we can only guesstimate how much EMF is a part of all of these culprits.
But it is the one that is still being ignored very widely.
And it needs to stop.
We need to consider EMF as one of the potential root causes for many of these illnesses along, of course, other environmental stressors.
Yeah, I'm really glad you brought that up.
And I want to ask you, too, about...
You already mentioned some of the experts that are in this docuseries.
Let me remind the audience, just register at brightu.com to watch the entire docuseries for free.
But tell us, if you would, Nick, about grassroots efforts that are happening in many countries to try to push back against the installation of 5G towers in particular.
To say, well, you know, you shouldn't just be able to pop one up right in front of somebody's bedroom window if they have a second floor, you know, apartment in a city or something.
You wake up one morning and it's like, oh my gosh, there's a 5G tower like six feet from my face.
You know, that's horrifying to a lot of people and it can have serious consequences.
What are the efforts to push back against this?
There are so many organizations I've been connected with, and some of them give me a lot of hope.
There's one organization, BBILAN.org.
It's an international attorney organization that are trying to fight not only against or for safer regulations around EMS, but also fighting against the insulation of satellites.
That's another angle to this entire topic, where You can avoid towers if you move away, but how can you move away from planet Earth, right?
We cannot do that at the moment.
So we have global internet projects by the hundreds of different projects at the moment that want to launch.
There's There's over a million satellites that are planned by different corporations to be launched in the next decades.
So there's this group that is trying to fight and kind of remind regulators, Basically, there's no pilot in the plane right now.
So not only are these satellites being launched without any environmental impact studies when it comes to global pollution, then we don't know what it's going to do when it comes to light pollution because of the way they reflect light and or emit light in the first place.
And it is in direct breach of many rules.
And international laws around the fact that we need to minimize light pollution.
And then there's the radiation that we don't know what it's going to do to humans.
And we don't know what it's going to do to nature.
And also, is it going to change the properties of the ionosphere, which is itself an electrical grid around the planet that is a natural protection against anything that comes from space?
So there are incredible issues.
Incredible consequences to these unknowns.
And there are also a lot of efforts that are more local throughout the U.S. You have Americans for Safe Technologies that are basically is a grassroots organization that I think is one of the best ones to follow along with Children's Health Defense, the Environmental Health Trust.
There are many, many courageous people that are fighting locally in their city, going to the city council and trying to change things.
It's a very uphill battle, but things are getting better because I think that the amount of different professors or scientists that I've seen personally turn around in their opinion of whether this radiation is dangerous or harmless...
It's really staggering.
There's one, for example, that is a professor of electrical engineering, Dr.
Kent Chamberlain from the University of New Hampshire, who led a commission on 5G in 2019, and it completely shattered his world.
He used to believe everything is safe, and now he's part of this movement to try to bring safer technologies to the market and to have safer regulations in the first place.
I'm really glad you mentioned that.
I love the fact that sometimes scientists begin to look into this and they're trying to dismiss, let's say, concerns, but they end up realizing the dangers.
I'm also glad that you mentioned satellites.
So here's another case of convenience versus what's the aggregate risk if there are more and more satellites.
So I love the fact that I have a satellite phone.
I have a satellite text messaging device.
I've been in situations where I couldn't get cell service, right?
And I needed to get a message out.
I love the fact that I can text through a satellite.
But, I mean, there's the convenience factor.
Of course, I don't keep those devices on, right?
I only turn them on when I'm going to use them.
I use them for a few minutes and they're off again.
But we're all being blanketed by the signal coming down from the satellites.
At all times.
And I agree with you.
There should be some sort of rational decision-making about, I don't know, risk versus benefits or at least an understanding of even the ecological effects because otherwise we're going to end up with 500,000 satellites up there just constantly beaming the crap out of planet Earth no matter where you are.
And that doesn't seem like a wise idea.
Do you know what is the cost to bring a satellite down from when it's in orbit?
What would be the cost to bring a satellite down?
I don't.
I don't either.
I don't know.
But I know it's staggering.
And the problem will be that 500,000 or a million satellites in the future...
Can cause a big, big, big ecological problem where, okay, we don't even have enough money to bring them down if we decide that they're dangerous.
So, you know, it's a bit of a crazy situation at the moment.
And I guess I have to laugh about it or else I'll be, you know, angry constantly or crying.
But there's no sort of rational entity at the moment that is trying to regulate these things.
So I think the grassroots effort on the ground And in space, in a sense, everywhere on the planet is welcomed.
And really what angers me, and that was the case when I read food forensics, Mike, is we have to protect ourselves first.
To make sure that we have enough health to be able to make this a better world.
It's kind of a very crazy situation because if our health continues to deteriorate from these exposures, where would the rational and the smart people be in 20 years or in 50 years from now?
With the massive problems that we're facing, We have to learn ourselves how to maximize our health.
And I think this is where the work you're doing and the work that so many others are doing is key, is that we have to learn how to make ourselves stronger.
And then we have to get involved that one way or another with causes that we think are just.
And in my case, it was EMFs, environmental toxins of all kinds.
Of course, there are many other problems, but still to this day, I keep going in this work simply because I keep stumbling upon people that tell me, Nick.
This is BS. There's no effect.
And it just keeps me going because I say, my God, some people still think that you would surround yourself with cell phones and there's zero biological effect.
This is how propagandized we've been.
Yeah, but look at the history of that, right?
So there used to be common pesticides called lead arsenate that were sprayed on fruit trees all over America containing both lead and arsenic, both toxic elements.
I mean, they used to put lead in gasoline, right?
There we go.
I mean, and then it became unleaded over time.
Why?
Because the lead...
Making the kids stupid, actually.
I mean, IQs dropped.
They had lead in the gasoline, so lead was in the air.
They had lead in paint.
Right now, you've got organophosphate pesticides in the food supply that people are eating.
Promoting dementia and Alzheimer's and neurological problems.
I mean, it goes on and on.
Like, you and I could probably name a hundred different things that are known toxins that are allowed in the system.
I mean, they put cancer-causing ingredients in hot dogs, you know, sodium nitrite, to turn them pinkish-looking, but it causes the formation of nitrosamines, like radical cancer-causing chemicals in processed meat.
But the USDA says, that's okay with us, you know?
So...
You're right, Nick.
People have to protect themselves.
And if they don't, you know, you might get cancer.
You might die.
You might suffer horrible consequences if you don't protect yourself.
So let me just plug it again.
The docuseries is called the EMF Hazards Summit.
It begins streaming August 10th.
You can register and watch it for free, or you can optionally purchase it.
And just give us, if you would, Nick, just some of the names who are included in this docuseries.
You mentioned a couple, but who else?
For sure.
We have...
There's a presidential candidate, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
I know, you know, for some people it's a positive, for some people it's a negative.
We don't talk about politics.
We talk about the situation with the corruption at the FCC. So I think on this topic, he's done tremendous work and it is an important interview because of that.
But we also have many active EMF scientists.
We have Dr.
Magda Havis, Who has been studying electrohypersensitivity for 20 years.
And she used to be, you know, an expert in environmental toxins, especially causing acid rain in Canada.
And she really switched over when she discovered the truth around EMFs.
And she's just an incredible force of nature.
We also have several doctors that are specialized in treating people with mystery illness.
And many of them are seeing patients that are hypersensitive And reactive towards EMS, but also towards chemicals or food, multiple food intolerances and things like that.
So we have Dr.
Neil Nathan, who's just a tremendous resource on hypersensitivities.
Dr.
Gordon also is incredible.
Dr.
Eric Gordon.
And we have also, you know, a lot of practical advice with EMF mitigation specialists.
These experts that come to your home Take EMF readings with professional equipments and can help you mitigate your environment.
So we have, for example, Rob Metzinger from Safe Living Technologies.
Also, R Blank, who's an expert at how to shield against radiation and he develops special cases that can help you minimize radiation if you carry your phone around.
And we always get back to practicality.
What can we do about it?
Because I can...
I can consume interviews regularly where I end the interview and I feel hopeless and I have to digest it and take a walk.
But I know that for a lot of people, it's getting very difficult to consume content without any solutions at the end.
So we do focus on everything that you can do and that you should do.
And that was a key thing for me in this summit is that every interview, I finish it off with about two to three minutes of practicality.
What are the takeaways?
What should you do about it?
And if you want to get involved, we talk about organizations.
But, you know, it has to be digestible or else why are you spending your time Staring at a screen to educate yourself if there's no hope.
There is hope and you can dramatically minimize your exposure by following some of the advice that we give throughout the summit.
I love that, Nick.
And we're going to wrap this up because we're out of time, but I love the fact that you put in practical solutions.
That's my emphasis too.
I don't want to just...
Share just problems.
I want to give people practical things that they can do.
One of the simplest things you can do is put your phone in a Faraday bag when you're not using it.
Just block the phone from broadcasting or receiving.
Or just not...
Be on it 24-7.
I mean, there are so many different choices that people can make.
Again, it's called the 2024 EMF Hazards Summit.
This is the third version of the summit.
It's been expanded and updated, and you can watch it again at brightu.com.
Nick, I really want to thank you for joining us today.
It's been a pleasure speaking with you on this, and thank you for letting us stream your docuseries.
Thank you so much, Mike.
Thanks for having me.
Absolutely.
All right.
Take care, Nick.
Have a great afternoon.
You too.
All right, everybody.
That was Nick Pinal.
And again, EMF Hazards Summit begins soon at Brighteon University or brightu.com.
This is exactly the kind of topic that I feel really thrilled about.
This is why we built a platform of Brighteon University to educate, share information with people.
That can help you avoid exposures, help you protect and enhance the quality of your life by learning what's actually happening around you and protecting yourself against the various threats that seem to be increasing in their density all around us.
That's why we chose the blue city graphic for this today because the city is electromagnetic smog.
If you could see all those wavelengths, You wouldn't be able to see 50 feet in front of you in a city because it's just electromagnetic smog and pollution everywhere all around you.
It's just invisible.
But thank you for watching today.
Mike Adams here, brighteon.com.
Take care.
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