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July 9, 2024 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams

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Daniel Vitalis from Surthrival interviewed on Decentralize TV about food redundancy...

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	Thank you.
	Welcome to today's episode of Decentralized TV here on Brighteon.com, the free speech network.
	And you're going to love this show today because, well, not only do we have, of course, my favorite co-host here, Todd Pitner, joining us.
	Welcome, Todd, to the show.
	Hi.
	How are you?
	I'm doing great, and I'm so excited about our guest.
	Just wanted to bring you in in order to announce our guest today, who is a longtime friend of mine and now a super TV star with his own show on wild foraging.
	It's called Wild Fed.
	I think Season 4 is premiering right now.
	Season 5, I think, is under production.
	Here it is on the Outdoor Channel.
	His name is Daniel Vitalis.
	He's an expert in wild foods and foraging, which is right in line with what we want to teach people, how to be more self-reliant and off-grid.
	So it's perfect.
	Yeah.
	And you know, Mike, I was ready for this interview an hour ago.
	I came early.
	You know why, Mike?
	Because I've been prepping for this.
	Man, to properly prepare for an interview like ours today, I have consumed, spirit of full disclosure, a Vitalis Smoothie.
	And it, Mike, it's made from testosterone, gunpowder, campfire coals, and raw frickin' coffee beans, Mike.
	Let's go!
	The Vitalis smoothie.
	Okay, let's bring him on.
	Welcome, Daniel Vitalis.
	You already have fans here.
	Welcome to the show.
	Hey, guys.
	Thank you so much for having me today.
	It's great to have you on.
	I guess I'm going to have to add gunpowder to my smoothie to make the Vitalis variation here.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	All kidding aside, you're doing amazing work, Daniel, and I interviewed you a couple of months ago.
	Absolutely loved it.
	That's from my regular show.
	So we want to invite you back here to talk about decentralizing your food supply.
	Tell us a little bit how many places you've gone and how many different wild foods you have harvested and prepared just in making the show.
	Well, we're working on our 42nd episode right now, and every episode, you know, we hunt or fish some animal species, plus we harvest either a plant or an algae or, you know, which is a different kingdom, that's the protists, or fungi, that's another kingdom, the mushrooms.
	So, I mean, just in the show alone, probably 85 to 100 species.
	But in my own life, I'd say probably 500 species.
	And, you know, what's really interesting about that is the average American is eating about 30 species a year.
	And if you call a fast stop with, like, an indigenous person, they're eating maybe 1,500 a year.
	So we are not just nutrient poor, but we're species poor in our diets.
	Well, hold on, Daniel.
	The average American is eating 30 different types of foods.
	The problem is 10 of those are corn.
	So it's corn, corn, corn, corn, corn, corn syrup, cornbread, corn tortillas, whatever.
	But no, I get your point.
	So what's wrong with just eating only 20 or 25 or 30 different foods?
	I'll give you one example.
	This one really strikes me as significant.
	I think people appreciate it.
	Let's say you went into your supermarket produce section and you were thinking, You know, I hear eating a lot of variety is important, so I'm going to get a different vegetable for every night of the week.
	So, you know, you go, okay, I'm going to grab a cabbage for tonight, and then tomorrow we'll do some Brussels sprouts, and then the next day we'll do broccoli, and then the next day we'll do cauliflower, and the next day we'll do kale, and then I'll do kohlrabi, and I'll finish out the week with collard greens.
	And you think, wow, seven different vegetables, and what you didn't realize All of those vegetables are the same species, Brassica oleracea.
	They are the same species in the same way that all of the different varieties or subspecies or breeds of dogs are all just dogs.
	So you might think, oh, a dachshund and a German shepherd, well, they're a different species.
	No, they're the same species.
	They're actually all gray wolves.
	They're all canis lupus, familiaris, the same animal.
	So sometimes what's happening in our diet is we're eating the same food over and over and over again.
	And as you guys probably Probably no.
	Plants, because they can't run away, they produce chemical defenses.
	And so sometimes what happens is we overeat these phytochemicals that are mild toxic and they accumulate over time.
	So with those vegetables I just mentioned, I love all of those brassica plants, but hey, they're goitrogens.
	So they actually impact your ability to incorporate iodine in your thyroid.
	So if you ate that every day, day after day, it starts to have a deleterious effect, but people don't realize they're eating the same stuff all the time.
	And the other thing I want to ask you, and then Todd, you can jump in, but when you're buying grocery store foods, and Daniel, you and I have talked about this extensively over the years, you're buying sort of monoculture, artificial shadows of what plants are supposed to be in the wild.
	You know, they're sprayed with pesticides and in some cases various herbicides, especially if they're GMO. They tend to lack in mineral nutrition, but they also lack in the phytonutrients that are the plant's normal response to environmental stresses, such as fungi, molds, or insect attacks and so on.
	Can you speak for a moment, Daniel, about why even though that cabbage may look like a head of cabbage, it's not the same.
	Chemically.
	Not the same as wild food.
	Yeah, well, it's kind of like a kid with a trust fund is how I always say it, you know?
	Who's stronger later in life?
	The person who suffers coming up or the person who has it all in the beginning?
	I mean, there's exceptions, but typically a little struggle in the beginning makes you stronger later on.
	So think about the lettuce that you plant in your backyard.
	Does it ever escape out of your garden and take over the lawn?
	It never does.
	It's the opposite.
	You've got to fence it or pesticide it or protect it because everything's trying to eat it.
	Why?
	Because lettuces, as they've been domesticated, all of their phytochemistries, all the bitterness has been bred out.
	And that bitterness is what keeps insects from overeating it or deer from overeating it.
	And when we remove that stuff so it tastes better to us, now everything can eat it.
	So we have to constantly protect it.
	But it needs more than that.
	It needs its soil fluffed up every day.
	It needs to be watered every day.
	And then you look at these plants like dandelion.
	You get one of those on your lawn, you're never getting rid of it.
	Why?
	Because it still has all its phytochemistry to defend itself from all the other herbivores, insect herbivores, so invertebrates or vertebrate like deer or rodents that would come eat it.
	They get sick of the bitter, so they can't eat too much of it, so the plant just has that ability to protect itself.
	But when we domesticate plants for our garden environment, and we've been doing that a really long time, we remove all of those chemicals.
	Well, it turns out those chemicals that function as sort of endogenous internal pesticides for the plant, those are also medicines in our body.
	That's what herbal medicine is.
	And so we breathe that stuff out so it tastes more palatable to us.
	We lose all the medicine.
	And then we end up with what I call a medicine deficiency.
	And then we end up turning to pharmaceutical companies to get those medicines that they ultimately usually derive from plants.
	So it's this vicious circle.
	So we've created weak plants that need all of this treatment, and those plants don't have the stuff we need.
	And that's just one component, because also those plants tend to lack vitamins, minerals, like you mentioned, and other phytonutrients too.
	Great answer, Daniel.
	So Todd, you have a food forest.
	I do.
	You keep sending me videos from it, too.
	So I'm excited about your food forest.
	Only video?
	No food?
	Well, he's in Florida.
	No food.
	No food yet.
	It's a baby food forest, but it's an up-and-comer, man.
	It's punching above its weight, I tell you.
	So I have two questions, but before I jump into those, you triggered something in me earlier, and I just have to ask your expert opinion.
	Yeah.
	These three are all three independent species, right?
	Burger King, McDonald's, and Taco Bell?
	Where I'm at, Taco Bell and KFC have joined together into one unified force.
	Okay.
	So that's this internal breeding thing going on.
	Okay, got it.
	Fresh meat, never frozen.
	Taco chicken, got it.
	Okay, no.
	Daniel, question.
	After visiting all of the astonishing locations that you have for your Wild Fed series on Outdoor Channel, my two questions are, if God appeared to you and said, Daniel, out of all the outdoor places that you've ever visited, you have one and only one place to live the rest of your days, where would it be?
	I live there, the state of Maine.
	Oh, wow.
	But, you know, really what it is, is it's, from a foraging perspective, I'll just say it's a river floodplain.
	I mean, there's a reason that it was the Nile where Egypt was, right?
	You know, you need a river floodplain where the flood waters in the spring spill over the banks, deposit mineral-rich silts, and then all those plants come up in that area in the springtime, and that produces tremendous amounts of food.
	So this time of year right now in the spring, I find myself out on the river floodplains.
	That water is now receded back, and all these spring ephemerals that are edible come up.
	And what's really amazing about them, if I took you there now, you'd say, wow, I can't believe there's this much food here.
	And I would start to point out to you, well, actually, this is probably not a natural phenomenon.
	This is a leftover phenomenon from the native people that were here prior to European colonization where they had not cultivated these species, but they had encouraged these wild species to be there.
	And the remnants of that are all over our landscape today.
	And so what happened before agriculture really reached North America, from Mexico and then eventually from Europe, was native people here were kind of doing this wild permaculture all over the continent.
	And particularly, they would be concentrated around rivers.
	Or the other thing would be coastal areas.
	So, you know, the Pacific Northwest, for instance, where one of the few places in North America where people could live off wild foods without having to be semi-nomadic.
	Because it was so rich there with the shellfish, marine mammals, the sea vegetables, that they could actually just stay in place and have enough food from that.
	So for me, coastal areas or river floodplains, a lot of the places we think of today as beautiful wilderness areas are barely habitable from a wild food perspective.
	Fascinating.
	Daniel, let me jump in here.
	Daniel, what you're describing, the knowledge base of humanity to be able to identify, harvest, and use these wild foods, that knowledge base, although it still exists in many indigenous populations, it has been utterly obliterated out of most of Western civilization and other modern groups around the world.
	And I feel like humanity is so detached now from the food supply That if the conventional factory farm food supply collapsed and there are signs that it is seriously strained and chicken farms are going up in flames and killing millions of chickens, I don't think that people have knowledge of what to do.
	I think they would just starve, most people.
	What do you think?
	They'll eat their leather belts.
	They'll boil and eat their leather belts while they're surrounded by edible species that they can't identify.
	And I mean that.
	And that happened here with, you know, early colonists arriving here and native peoples showing them as they were starving to death, showing them what they could eat.
	And those were very domesticated humans, too, because they'd just been coming from European cities.
	So they also had lost a lot of that knowledge.
	And so a lot of this knowledge is transferable.
	Like when I go to a new place, I'm not necessarily going to know the species there, but I'll recognize some of the genera.
	I might say, hey, I don't know that specific maple, but I know it's a maple.
	Or I don't know that specific acorn, but I know it's an oak.
	Sometimes, some of that knowledge can be translated over.
	But a lot of the skills and the practices and the where to look stuff, that is transferable.
	So I think I would have a better than average chance if you thrust me into a new environment, I had to survive off that landscape.
	The knowledge that I have from where I live, I would be able to use some of it.
	I would know where to look for rhizomes and tubers and probably like, okay, in the springtime, I'm going to eat shoots.
	In the summertime, I'm going to live off berries and foliage.
	In the fall, I'm looking for what are the real fruits and masks coming off the trees.
	So there's knowledge that is usable.
	But yeah, people are very afraid to try anything they don't know the name of.
	It's interesting, once you tell somebody a name for something, Completely alters their relationship with it.
	Going back scripturally all the way to the beginning, which was this idea of our job was to go name everything in the garden.
	This is really ancient for us.
	So as soon as you introduce, I think of it like, because here's how I look at it.
	A dandelion, again, to use our earlier example, a dandelion is alive, right?
	It's a living creature.
	It's respirating.
	It's carrying on a life cycle.
	So it's alive.
	So it's an entity.
	If it's an entity, then you can have a meeting with it.
	If you can meet it, you can befriend it and be in relationship with it.
	So I'm in relationship with all of these different species.
	They're not just non-player characters on the landscape.
	They're friends of mine.
	I see them on the landscape, and I know, oh, yeah, I use you for this, and I use you for that, and I have to give something back by being a sort of promoter for those species.
	But I'm in reciprocal relationship, and so that's the indigenous way was always...
	You didn't just know the species there as food, you knew them as creatures and we've really lost that.
	Basically us and our dogs and cats are the only creatures around and everything else is just props on the stage.
	Yeah, Todd, I mean, in your food forest, you spend a lot of time with the plants.
	Don't you feel like you have a relationship?
	It's amazing.
	It plays out.
	I love this topic.
	It's like now from 6 a.m.
	to 7.30 p.m.
	I mean, 6 a.m.
	to 7.30 a.m., I have my shoes off.
	I'm in the food forest.
	There's so much diversity out there.
	I'm walking around to where I still can't capture what everything is from memory, but I have my app that I can take a picture of any plant and it tells me about it.
	I've been doing that every morning for a couple of months now because it's really coming alive.
	And that then combined, I love you talked about the relationship, combined with the fact that, you know, raccoons get a bad rap.
	I ended up, like, a year and a half ago, there were a couple of raccoons and a mom in the back, and all of a sudden the mom wasn't there, and the little ones, they were still little.
	So I went back there and I started feeding them grapes and things.
	I walk out there this morning and I go, Rocky!
	You know, I'm really creative.
	I name them all Rocky.
	I have 14 of them back there now.
	And little Rocky comes up, and he literally comes like a dog.
	I go to sit down, and he gets in my lap to have grapes.
	And that is the commune that you're talking about.
	He's a creature.
	I want to say I never say commune.
	No, that's the community or the relationship that you have, right?
	You're giving back.
	So...
	Now, hold on a second.
	Daniel, you should know that Todd and I have an ongoing conversation about raccoons because on my farm, where I have backyard chickens, raccoons are the enemy because I've seen what raccoons do when they disassemble chickens.
	Mine would never do that, by the way.
	I think they would.
	I actually think they would.
	Raccoon tastes pretty good.
	Okay, okay.
	Well, see, that's the whole thing.
	I also have a herd of seven deer back there, and I'm like, I'll take care of you now.
	And later, maybe you take care of me.
	Well, you know, we'll never know.
	But my second question was, and it may offend you if you're an atheist, I don't think you are, but after personally witnessing the absolute beauty and diversity that nature provides, can you or anyone kind of intelligently attest that a creator God doesn't exist?
	I mean, you've had to see every sort of diverse life.
	Yeah, I love that you asked that.
	You know, I think about a generation in the future that could be so removed from nature as to almost...
	I mean, it's not like they won't know it exists, but they might not really have access to it.
	And if you spend your entire life in the built environment or in the digital environment, that means everything you see is an artifact.
	So I call it an artifact land.
	So this is an important little component of all this.
	The word artifact refers to a thing that has been shaped by human will or human hands.
	So think about like if we were out in Texas, for instance, and we're kicking around in the rocks and we pick up a piece of flint and then we pick up an arrowhead that's made from flint.
	Well, what's the difference?
	They're both have the same chemical composition.
	They're both made of the same crystalline lattice, right?
	They're the same chemical structure, but one is a natural rock and one is the same rock, but it's been shaped by human will.
	That makes it an artifact.
	That's where the word art comes from.
	So artifacts.
	So we're living in a kind of artifact land.
	If we walked through New York City, you'd be like, well, that's not an artifact.
	That's a tree.
	I'd be like, well, that's a horticultural variety of ginkgo.
	That is actually a human-made artifact.
	Or you'd be like, well, what about that pigeon?
	I'd be like, that's a feral dove that was once domesticated.
	It's an artifact.
	Everything around it.
	What about the cloud?
	No, sorry, that's a contrail.
	So we get into this environment where everything's built by humans.
	And if that happens to people, they will not see the fingerprint of the creator any longer.
	That's disturbing.
	It's like when you're out in nature and you see, for instance, I was recently hunting peacock, invasive, deleterious peacock in New Zealand.
	So they've been introduced there and they're a pest there to the farmers.
	I did not know you could hunt peacock in Australia.
	You can't where they're from in India, but you can in New Zealand where they compete with sheep.
	In New Zealand.
	Okay.
	Wow.
	Yeah, it's basically a turkey.
	It's basically a turkey.
	Yeah, it's a colorful turkey.
	It's a turkey in drag, I say.
	Yeah, right.
	When you walk up upon this bird, you're just struck by the artistry of it.
	Yeah.
	There's no convincing me that this has emerged from a big bang.
	It's illogical.
	It's like you handing me a book and telling me that.
	It's like, you hand me a book, I'm going to go, there must be an author.
	And so, yeah, when you recognize that all of these things are made of genetic code, And that they defy entropy, right?
	Because what is this evolutionary process?
	Well, it's clearly defying entropy.
	So in a universe that seems to be breaking down, you have life, which is building up.
	Everything's expiring around us, except life is inspiring upward.
	What is that?
	What causes that?
	Where does that come from?
	That pneuma, that breath of life.
	I mean, so I think there's...
	Always an effort underway to blind people to these things and keep them sort of cloistered off in an environment where they only see things created by humans.
	And we hear that thing all the time.
	The most sophisticated structure in the entire universe is the human brain.
	It's like, that's bleak to me to think that the highest form of intelligence is Joe Biden's brain.
	Everybody knows that.
	Especially enhanced on amphetamine.
	Yeah.
	Okay, sorry to interrupt.
	I didn't mean to bring politics into this.
	But I do want to mention, I just want to give you the courtesy of mentioning your dietary supplement line.
	You have a company called Surthrival.
	You were on my show a couple months ago talking about your elk antler.
	You've been kind enough to let us carry it in our store, healthrangerstore.com, but you also have surthrival.com as well.
	And I've got to tell you, I love your product.
	I've been taking it daily since then.
	Actually, the only thing I... My only complaint is that sometimes it's a little bit...
	Sometimes it gets stuck in the dropper.
	There's some solids in there, you know?
	That's the only thing.
	But other than...
	I just...
	I love it.
	Tell us about your elk antler.
	Yeah, so...
	And Mike, we're going to be switching to a...
	The dropper will come separate beside the bottle in a box soon because that, you know, some of that material does tend to clog up in the dropper.
	Yeah, so cervids, which are deer...
	And this includes all of them, you know, the ones that are extant on the planet, but also the extinct ones too.
	So, you know, that could be your white-tailed deer here in North America, elk, moose, caribou.
	All those animals grow antlers every year and then drop them in the winter.
	So it's different than horns like you'd have on a cow, a goat, a sheep.
	That's a different structure.
	But antlers are the only mammalian organ that grows and then falls off and then regenerates itself.
	And in order to regenerate an antler like an elk's antler, which is, let's say, four or five feet long, it grows in just a couple of months.
	Sometimes it's growing an inch or two a day.
	And it's got a layer on the outside of hair and skin.
	It's got veins and arteries.
	It's got all this collagen and an osteos bony matrix inside.
	This is a fully, it's like a limb that doesn't have muscular articulation, joints and muscles, but it is a limb.
	And for that thing to grow at that speed, you need a lot of steroidal compounds to be present and a lot of growth factors.
	And so this has been something that human beings have been doing for a really long time.
	It goes back to China and Russia, where the idea was, hey, how do we get those substances that are causing that explosive growth into our body?
	And so it's always been looked at as a kind of a What we're doing is taking those antlers as they're growing out from elk farms here in the USA. We get those antler tips when they're undifferentiated.
	They haven't grown into tines yet.
	And we freeze dry those, grind them down and extract them in an organic grape alcohol using ultrasound and draw that out in what's called the Russian method.
	The Russians were studying this during the Cold War and before the Cold War.
	They were using it for their Super Soldier Super Athlete programs, which I think is just like that Rocky IV stuff, you know?
	And basically, this is one of the supplements they landed on or one of the substances they landed on.
	It fits into that category of adaptogen and ergogenic.
	So adaptogens are, of course, those things that help our body adapt to various types of stresses.
	But it's also like a tonic.
	You know, you can take it daily.
	It's never toxic.
	You don't have to worry about overtaking it.
	And yeah, it's an ergogenic.
	So ergogenics are substances that help us do more work, create more work output.
	So yeah, when it comes to, you know, and how I landed on elk antler originally was going like, well, I don't want to get on I'm not PEDs, but I'm really into athleticism.
	What are the substances in nature that can assist with that kind of thing that are safe to take regularly?
	And elk antler is really at the top of my list, or one of my very top herbs for that.
	Thank you for that explanation.
	I'm just blown away by your knowledge of your products, and that's one of the reasons why we're so thrilled to partner with you.
	I'm showing on my screen another product of yours is the black walnut protein powder.
	We don't have to go into all the details, but I do want to tell you that I have Heaping spoons of that in my smoothie today.
	Today I dropped the whey powder, because I knew I was going to interview you, and I put the black walnut protein powder in here.
	And Daniel, honestly, I did not think I would like the black walnut protein powder, and I do.
	I love it.
	I don't know why, but it has a taste and texture that's just really pleasant.
	Yeah, it's real food.
	I think that's one of the differences.
	You know, most of the protein powders are...
	Essentially, byproducts, waste material, right?
	So the cheese industry weighs their leftover product.
	The hemp oil industry, hemp protein is their leftover product.
	But we gather these nuts specifically to be extracted into the protein powder.
	We keep some of the fiber in there, so you get four grams of fiber per serving.
	That's something for folks to think about with a protein supplement that they maybe haven't heard so much about, but a lot of times you have no fiber present.
	It's not really a natural way for us to consume these foods.
	Yeah, but these are 100% USA wild trees and they're gathered by hand by foragers, volunteer foragers who get paid to bring their crop in.
	And we take those walnuts, black walnuts, that's the endemic natural walnut to North America, not the English walnut most of us are familiar with.
	And we extract that using the cannabis industry CO2 extraction, so very, very clean high-end extraction.
	And we pull all the oils out and yield that protein powder.
	And it is just this really fine flour.
	It tastes amazing because it's got some vegetal It's a fine flour you can also bake with.
	I use it like you, Mike, in smoothies, but you can bake with it.
	You can mix it into your oatmeal or whatever you like to do for breakfast.
	It's the highest protein content of any of the tree nut crops.
	It's really amazing.
	That's also available at our store and your store, Sir Thrival, as well as Health Ranger store.
	Todd, you'll love the fact that there are people all over America who have these black walnut trees in their backyards or on their farms, and they actually harvest this and collect it for processing to make this product.
	So this is like...
	This is decentralization.
	How do you get back to growing local food?
	And you can grow your own protein supplements or just eat the walnuts themselves.
	But this is native to North America.
	And I love that fact.
	I know, Todd, you've got a question, but remind me, I want to ask Daniel about pawpaws in North America as well.
	Okay, we'll get back to that, because it's kind of like a South American fruit that grows in North America.
	But, Todd, go ahead.
	I've just arrived at the conclusion that when the you-know-what hits the fan, my survival strategy is going to just simply be raising my hand and say, I'm Daniel Vitalis.
	That line is getting long, man.
	Yeah.
	Find Daniel.
	What do we do?
	I don't know.
	Call Daniel.
	So, Daniel, as a, and I love this word, lifestyle pioneer, two words, during your travels, you have experienced the most remote plush lands on this earth, and I imagine you have a very unique, pragmatic point of view on climate change as presented by Let's just say clown world.
	Based upon your empirical assessment, do you think we'll all survive, Daniel, or should we fearfully lower our carbon footprints and become carless vegans living in 15-minute cities?
	I thought we were going to eat bugs.
	They're not vegan.
	You're right.
	They did say, eat the boats.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	You know, my concern from the places I go is really habitat.
	And I think here's the mistake I think that folks who have aligned, you know, those of us who have collectively aligned ourselves against this sort of whatever you want to call that clown world.
	Yeah.
	I think we make a mistake leaning too far sometimes going like, like acting like there's no problem in our environment.
	And that's a mistake.
	That's a huge mistake.
	There are, I mean, of course, you know, I could sit here and list chemicals off one by one by one that are in our bloodstream and in breast milk, right, that are neurotoxic or they're endocrine disruptors.
	We have done a lot of damage to our oceans.
	You know, there's There's some issues.
	I remember, you know, the thing that stands out to me the most when I really noticed this was taking a 10-year break from snorkeling in Florida and going back and there's just no coral left.
	Wow.
	And I remember when it was like a Willy Wonka wonderland underwater and now it's gray and it's bleak and that's really real.
	So habitat loss is a real thing, but we don't address habitat loss because It interferes with industry.
	So rather than going after industry that's doing the polluting, what we're doing is going after the people Who have been tricked into consuming and then just blaming them so we can tax them for carbon.
	Now, the CO2 in our environment and the warming from a food perspective is a pretty good thing.
	We've got a lot more food.
	I'm getting fish species moving their way into main waters that I'm quite fond of.
	Overall, I don't think that's really the problem.
	I think that's a bit of a It's all hyperbole and a little ridiculous.
	But what we do have to think about is...
	I live in a neighborhood where I have two acres of beaver bog behind my house that I fish in and I hunt on and I forage from.
	And there's some folks in my neighborhood who've come in and they've put in their spray on chemlons.
	And they have just destroyed my bog.
	I mean, the flush of all that nitrogen runoff into it, pushed the beavers out.
	Green over the whole surface.
	I'm losing all the life back there.
	Now the whole dam's breaking down.
	I mean, it's just watching that cascades really hard because I get my food there.
	You know, so we have a disconnect.
	It's like we flush a toilet, we don't think about where things go anymore.
	So we use chemical products that we just put in the water.
	Well, when you live rurally, you're like, where's this water going?
	It's going down my drain.
	Well, it's going out into my garden, right?
	It's like, do I want to eat that shampoo?
	Probably not.
	So that stuff's real.
	This chemical issue's real.
	This pesticide issue's real.
	But this climate change thing is obviously a scam.
	I mean, who gets away?
	Scott Fleet, all the industries that have done the damage.
	I just really like to remind people that we were all very resistant to consumerism.
	We had to be tricked.
	It was Edward Bernays and the Freudians who had to trick us into consuming the way we do.
	And now governments are acting like we are the problem when they're the ones who tricked us into it in the first place.
	Daniel and Todd, let me show you this.
	You both probably know I created a film many years ago called BioSludge.
	Here it is on screen.
	BioSludge.com.
	Can you show the screen?
	BioSludge.com.
	You can watch the film for free right there.
	And then I heard nothing for many years until now.
	Here it is.
	Toxic biosolids threaten U.S. farmland and livestock, and Congress is now proposing a $500 million program to compensate farmers because their land is now so contaminated by the biosludge, which is human sewage and everything else that people flush down the toilets, they can which is human sewage and everything else that people flush down the toilets, they can no longer grow food on their farms that's considered safe, according to the FDA, which has almost no safety standards I mean, I was like, I told you so, bitches.
	I mean, this is going to happen.
	And here it is.
	We're contaminating all the farmland.
	Daniel?
	That's real.
	And it's a real concern as a forager because...
	You want to think all these foods out in the wild are free from all of that, but of course, these are environments that have also been impacted.
	We could go up to the Arctic to hunt and we'll find all of these same chemicals, pervasive chemicals, in the organ meats of the animals that live in the Arctic.
	It's like the ducks coming down from, or the waterfowl coming down from the Arctic, You know, to head south, I mean, they've been in a very clean environment relatively, but where they come, they come down here and they feed on our, you know, our grain refuse all through, on ag fields all through the winter.
	And so then they take that back up to the north.
	So, you know, there's nowhere, nothing on the planet's clean anymore.
	I mean, that piece is really important to remember.
	And the other thing that I think people don't always understand When you get into foraging, you'll hear a lot about invasive species, and there's sort of an ethic like, hey, if we can eat invasive species, that can be really helpful to the native population species because that takes a little of the pressure off them.
	But the way that invasive species remediation is done in the United States with glyphosate.
	So, if your local town is trying to remediate, let's say you have a Japanese knotweed infestation in your area, and you hear, oh, they're trying to get rid of invasive species, that's code for their working with Monsanto to get glyphosate to spray on your roadsides.
	And so, you learn to recognize these burned plants that And go, okay, I can't forage around this area anymore.
	But that's a real thing, too.
	So there's a lot of contamination concerns, just like there is in the regular food supply.
	But climate itself is like, this seems net beneficial from a food perspective.
	In all of your travels and foraging through forests, I'm now raising bees.
	I'm curious, have you ever come across any of the African-ized bees that came at you or no?
	No, I haven't, but I have seen some gnarly insect bites along the way.
	I got to get my first EpiPen a couple seasons ago, which is really fun.
	One thing I have noticed, though, that I do have a concern about, back in the day, you know, if you drove from northern Maine down to southern Maine where I am in the summertime, I mean, your whole front of your car would be caked in dead insects.
	And now...
	Not so much.
	I mean, I don't know the degree to which insects that populations have been reduced in my lifetime is tremendous.
	And I don't hear a lot of talk about that.
	So we hear about it with bees, you know, we know that we're losing native pollinators, but I don't think it's just pollinators.
	I think it's a lot of insects.
	And that's that story is largely not been really addressed.
	We've covered that, Daniel, you know, the collapse of the insect biomass.
	I recall reading some studies where in certain areas of Europe, it's collapsed by 70 to 80 percent.
	So that's consistent with what you're seeing.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Unbelievable.
	I also want to say one more thing since we're kind of fleshing this stuff out.
	Everybody does love to dig on Klaus Schwab for saying eat insects.
	And I do, too, because I don't want to eat centrally grown insects that are raised on GMO crops.
	But I just gotta say that insect eating, entomophagy, is ancient, and every culture around the world practiced it.
	I had a really good time a few years ago when brood X of the 17-year periodical cicadas hatched.
	I went down to Kentucky, and boy, did we eat some cicadas.
	How do you prepare those?
	Well, I just dry roasted them, and they were like peanut-tasting popcorn.
	Wow.
	People think insects are going to be like jelly inside, which would be pretty off-putting, but they tend to be dry and crispy.
	So dragonflies are awesome, and bees are actually fantastic.
	I love eating bees.
	And bee brood, bee larvae, queens, any of those products of the hive are just awesome.
	Well, there you go, Todd.
	You can eat your bees.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	That royal jelly, dude.
	That royal jelly's legit.
	Right.
	So sometimes when I'll do a post, let's say I write a post on entomophagy, I'll get all this pushback.
	Oh, Klaus Schwab, you're...
	You know, the World Economic Forum and all this.
	And it's like, hey, hey, that's not the same thing.
	I'm not talking about crickets raised in the city.
	I'm talking about insects in nature.
	You know, people have always eaten grubs.
	You know, you go to Thailand, you see the scorpions and the tarantulas people selling on the street.
	So that's a legitimate food.
	And one reason from a decentralization perspective.
	Look, if we have...
	You guys know, I don't need to say anything, you know what's happening to the food supply here intentionally.
	And if it collapses or there's even a temporary shortage in it, there's a lot of, like where I live, there's a lot of guys who are way better hunters than me.
	They're going to strip this landscape of deer and turkeys and moose.
	None of that's going to be left.
	In a year, there'll be none of that left.
	But I know I eat grasshoppers and June bugs and crickets and they are very high in protein and people can laugh about that now, but I'll be alive.
	You have a really good point there.
	In fact, you know Marjorie Wildcraft.
	She's been a frequent guest on my show.
	When she lived in Central Texas, she used to give...
	It was an annual bug-eating festival thing in a park in Austin.
	She always invited me.
	I never went.
	Perhaps I should have.
	But she's in Puerto Rico now.
	I don't know if she's still eating bugs there.
	I imagine she's teaching people how to do that.
	But you make a point.
	None of us want to be forced to eat nothing but crickets, which is what the Klaus Schwab thing is all about.
	And like you said, it is mass produced factory crickets, which Tyson Foods is now investing in massive cricket farms while the chicken farms are coincidentally burning down.
	Huh?
	What are the odds of that?
	But we but in a survival scenario.
	You need to know how to eat grasshoppers.
	On my ranch, we've got grasshoppers galore right now.
	All I have to do is walk farther than my chickens walk.
	And then I've got grasshoppers.
	And by the way, Mike, if you ever need to do that, I like to catch them in the morning before they've been filled up with grass because they get a lot of wet grass in them by late afternoon.
	Is that right?
	That's nasty.
	Oh, that makes it nasty.
	Catching them too late.
	You want them to be crispy and dry when you cook them.
	You don't want any goo.
	But when you cook a grasshopper, it turns red.
	And it turns red because of that astaxanthin in the exoskeleton.
	Now that's the same thing that causes a lobster or a crab or a shrimp to turn red because these arthropods are basically the same thing as crustaceans on the surface of the earth instead of under the water.
	So for me, a grasshopper is like a shrimp.
	But the thing is, when I cook a lobster or a crab or a shrimp, I got to peel that exoskeleton off.
	I can't eat it.
	It's not food.
	It's just chitin, right?
	And so all of that incredible antioxidant is lost with the refuse that I remove from it.
	But not with grasshoppers.
	Grasshopper, I'm eating all that astaxanthin.
	It's in that exoskeleton that I can consume.
	So that's really an interesting thing to think about too.
	I mean, again, I know this isn't what we all want to do tomorrow, but it's something to tuck away in your mind because like I said, think about how quickly unregulated hunters in a survival situation want to feed their families would strip the landscape.
	And look, you could think like, well, I've raised in my own livestock.
	You know how many times I drive by cows and I think, man, I'd love to shoot one of those cows.
	That's the thing.
	You better be out there protecting your cows or your sheep or whatever.
	You'll have scavengers come and get your livestock.
	I was telling the story of a local guy who sells peaches at the farmer's market.
	He said somebody came and stole 200 peaches off his tree just a couple weeks ago.
	I'm like, really?
	People are just stealing peaches?
	But Daniel and Todd, a really critical point to what you're saying here, and this is the theme of the show, is decentralization, being more self-reliant instead of being controlled by a centralized system.
	As the food supply collapses, if we get into a food emergency, there will be government-provided food staples, but you have to comply.
	So you have to show up.
	You might have to turn in a firearm to get your food stamps.
	You know, you might have to not be on their list.
	Or somebody with a firearm, right?
	Right.
	You might have to turn somebody in to get extra food credits.
	The weaponization of food scarcity is a means of control over the population.
	And if you know how to get food yourself, then that's a sense of freedom.
	Todd, your thoughts on that point?
	Yes, a lot of thoughts here.
	Eating insects.
	You know, I like rabbit holes.
	And I'm going to push back on you where you said, well, you know, we all don't want to start eating bugs tomorrow.
	I resent that remark because I want to...
	But what I need to know is the how, and I'm being very serious here in asking that.
	If I went and foraged in my 30 acres back there that the city owns or what a county, but it's in my backyard, So a lot of foraging could be done, I know.
	Where are there some resources that I could go to?
	You don't have to tell us how to do everything now, but where could you point me, us, to be able to go learn?
	Well, if you're going to capture some grasshoppers, here's how you would fry them up, Daniel.
	Oh, yeah.
	I don't actually...
	That's an interesting question because there's not a lot of great books on this topic.
	And in fact, wild foods in general are like this.
	One of the things that I've really lamented...
	This is going to sound like a rabbit trail.
	We're going to bring it all around.
	Sure.
	There are different kingdoms of life that we eat from.
	In fact, I sort of think of it roughly like there's four kingdoms we want to eat from.
	Because we want to eat from animal, we want to eat from plant, we want to eat from fungi, and we want to eat from protist, which includes the algaes, all the seaweeds and stuff like that.
	So we want to be consuming from all these different kingdoms of life.
	People who harvest from these kingdoms of life tend to be specialists.
	So the hunters, typically, they aren't foragers, usually.
	The plant foragers are their own group, and the mushroom people are definitely their own group.
	And you can stratify these foragers out by IQs, definitely.
	Your smartest people are the mycologists, the people who do mushrooms.
	They are brainy.
	They are brainy and quirky and nerdy, and they don't call things by common names, only the Latin names, and they go in really deep.
	And they'll write books about it, lots of books about it, because they're intellectuals.
	The plant people tend to write identification guides Less on the culinary side, so you have to look a little bit.
	My top pick for you guys is Sam Thayer's books.
	They're incredible.
	When you get into hunting and fishing, what's challenging there is you're dealing with a different type of person.
	They write memoir and hunting story type and fishing story books, but it's very difficult to find the how-to stuff on this because most of this stuff was passed on patrilineally.
	So you learned it from your grandfather, your father, your uncle, and it's just passed on.
	And that type of person tends not to be the type to go write a how-to book.
	And so you really have to get out and learn from people.
	Now, what we're talking about here is entomophagy.
	And let me say one more thing.
	When you're dealing with mushrooms, there's a saying like, there's old mushroom hunters and there's bold mushroom hunters.
	But there's no old, bold mushroom hunters.
	When you're dealing with hunting, you don't have to deal with a poisonous lookalike hog.
	There's no poisonous lookalike deer.
	You can't get it wrong.
	So you don't have...
	You don't have that Darwin Award thing going on that you have in the mushroom world, right?
	That's like another component.
	I just want to say that.
	It's easy to go to a field guide, a mushroom book.
	When you're getting into animals, you kind of need to find mentors.
	It's different depending on the kingdom.
	That's sort of this weird thing that I found.
	Entomophagy is one of the harder ones.
	So I like to connect in with entomologists.
	Those are people who studied insects.
	They can be a big help.
	But mostly you're going to find this stuff by looking into other cultures and what they've done with it.
	So for instance, grasshoppers and crickets, Mexico.
	Big tradition of it down there.
	So you can look at how they're doing it.
	But I'm going to give you one quick tip on this.
	With insects, very difficult to take a living insect and put it right on a frying pan.
	It wants to get away from that, right?
	And you don't want to kill them because like a shellfish, if you've ever had a crab or a lobster and it's died, well, I mean, it starts to smell like urine in about half an hour.
	It's just like you have very short time window and insects are like that.
	So what I like to do with insects that I collect is put them in the freezer.
	Let them die, but not break down, and then cook them.
	And one of the best ways is going to be make sure they're dry, get a little oil on them, some spices.
	Let's say take your Old Bay like you're doing a crab boil up.
	Sprinkle it on there, toss them, put them on a pan, and dry roast that.
	And they come out, like I said, it's like popcorn.
	So before you put them in the fridge, you do all the sauté stuff or after?
	I mean, in the freezer.
	Freeze them so they're dead.
	Because you don't want to go around.
	Because they're going to try to hop away from it.
	So kill them in the freezer.
	And then...
	Season them and get them in the oven.
	But what about the cryogenic entomologists who say they come back to life after the freezing?
	Yeah.
	And then zombie grasshoppers, they like to come back.
	No.
	So how long do you put them in the oven?
	I mean, at what temperature?
	Well, it depends on the size of insect and how many you have, right?
	So you're going to need to use a little common sense here.
	Yeah.
	You know, I'd put them in at 350, you know, for 10-15 minutes, that kind of a thing.
	And you can also do them on a stovetop too, so, you know, a cast iron, but don't have a lot of oil in it because you don't want them to get soggy.
	So almost dry pan.
	Todd's taking notes, man.
	You're going to do this tomorrow, aren't you?
	And I also recommend, Todd, get yourself like a little kid's...
	You know, butterfly net.
	That's one of the best ways you want to do this.
	And then if you like it, you can scale up and buy the ones the entomologists use to capture insects like, you know, arachnophobia style when they're out like in the movie, you know, catching stuff.
	All I have to do is drive my ranch vehicle down my ranch and grasshoppers are all over me.
	This is all I got to do is like have a net, I guess, and just drive around.
	Is there anything with insects collecting cooking that you would say, but just stay away from this?
	Don't ever do...
	Yeah, well, I just...
	Grasshoppers and crickets are safe, right?
	And dragonflies are safe.
	And, you know, you've got...
	Here we have a...
	We call them June bugs.
	I don't know if it's a beetle that we have.
	They're safe.
	But, like, I don't just go willy-nilly eating any insect.
	I mean, I do some research first to make sure what I'm eating is safe.
	But also bees, very safe.
	You know, and you have this tradition of eating grubs in a lot of cultures, too.
	Again, very high protein.
	They're much better than you think.
	You've got to just get past the look of them.
	But you know how this works.
	Like the one that's in the base of an agave plant that ends up in tequila bottles.
	You know, those are fantastic.
	Nice to know where that stuff is.
	Again, if we're talking survival situation, it's like the termite mounds or termite logs where you can break that open and you got all that larva in there.
	And you know that stuff is precious because you open that up and all those ants or all those termites immediately grab larvae and start trying to run with them.
	Take the treasure!
	I'll give you one more.
	Ants are fantastic and they taste very acidic.
	They're like lemony because they have a lot of formic acid.
	And I would sometimes, have you ever seen where they're all swarming out of the ground like you come upon an area where there's just ants everywhere?
	If you try to shovel them up, well, you're going to get a lot of dirt.
	So what I'll do is put them in a five-gallon bucket and let them crawl out.
	They'll leave all the sand behind.
	And as they crawl out, they're clean and you can scoop them into another container.
	Oh, wow.
	So there's another little pro tip for you.
	We have fire ants in Texas that fight back.
	Man, Texas is gnarly.
	They're mean.
	That's where my buddy got stung on the forehead on one of our shoots by, it was like a brown, big brown wasp, reddish, rusty colored wasp.
	Oh, yeah?
	I mean, within seconds he was fully anaphylactic.
	Oh, man.
	He's got a dangerous environment over there.
	Up in here in New England, things are pretty soft and pretty safe.
	All right.
	Okay.
	So let me just also remind people to watch your show.
	It's called Wild Fed.
	It's on the Outdoor Channel, season premiere, Monday, 7.30 Pacific.
	Is that right?
	Is that what it's saying?
	7.30 Eastern.
	Oh, Eastern.
	Yeah, that's a poorly done graphic.
	What is that?
	Okay.
	There's an E and a P. You can also find the archives, season one through three, are all on Amazon Prime or on myoutdoortv.com.
	Okay, great.
	Amazon Prime.
	There we go.
	So that's how people can watch it.
	All right.
	And then just kind of last question for you, Daniel, and I appreciate you taking all this time with us.
	For somebody who, some of this sounds intimidating to a lot of people who are living in suburbs, let's say.
	They're like, I don't have acreage behind me.
	I don't know that I want to eat grasshoppers at this time.
	I can't identify plants.
	Like, what's a little baby step where they could start into this?
	I think the best baby step is to go on a plant walk.
	They are happening everywhere.
	Google up the name of your town and plant walk or plant identification class or ask around at the local health food store or the botanical garden in the city where you live.
	Wherever you are, this stuff is going on.
	One of the fun things about making the TV show is that I go from place to place and there's always wild food enthusiasts everywhere I go and I find them and we connect in together and they show me their species.
	And so you might be in Manhattan and it's like, well, is that going to be going on here?
	And turns out wild man Steve Brill is doing plant walks right in Central Park.
	And one more thing to go back to what Todd's been talking about.
	You would almost think that the place you want to go is these remote wilderness areas.
	But again, where most of the edible plants are is around people.
	And areas where there's disturbance.
	So the best foraging is not remote locations.
	It's usually fence rows.
	It's usually abandoned lots.
	It's places where people have disturbed the soil.
	Many of the medicinal and edible plants that are useful to people are adapted to being around people.
	And there is a reciprocal long-term relationship that's been going on.
	Sometimes the best stuff to forage is right in your town, not out in some remote place.
	So that's one of the easy steps.
	And if you're more interested in mushrooms, every area now has a mycological society, and they're always doing mushroom walks and mushroom identification stuff.
	So that's another way you can get dialed in, too.
	And nowadays, for people looking to learn to hunt or fish, that used to be a lot harder, but Now your state agencies are desperate to sell licenses, so they're running a lot more events, or your local outfitters are hosting events, how to turkey hunt, how to trout fish, or whatever it is.
	And I always tell people one species at a time.
	So you know how it is when you go to a party and you get introduced to 10 people and you're like, I'm not going to remember anyone's name here.
	You know, it's just too many at once.
	But if I introduce you to one person and you just talk to that one person, you make a relationship, that's a lot easier.
	So I tell people one or two species a season.
	Tell yourself, hey, I want to learn two plants that are in my backyard this year, or two plants in my neighborhood this year.
	And it doesn't sound like much.
	Five years later, you've got 10 plant relationships going.
	And you know all of them, and you know when they're food.
	So just step-by-step, like any of this kind of prepping-type stuff.
	And to me, this isn't really that.
	It's cool because it's got a survival component, but that's not really...
	I would do this anyway.
	But...
	Anytime you approach things with frantic, overstimulated, sympathetic nervous system stress, you're not going to learn as well.
	You're not going to remember as well or retain things.
	Try not to get too panicked about it.
	Come at it slow.
	Even if it feels like you're watching the news and you're going like, man, things are out of control.
	I need to learn this stuff fast.
	That's not the way to learn it.
	So come at it slow, go piece by piece.
	That's great advice, Daniel.
	Great advice.
	And this is a question for both of you.
	Todd, you mentioned you have an app that identifies plants.
	And my mom uses an app like that.
	It's amazing.
	She runs around taking pictures of everything.
	It's like, oh, that's what that is.
	Because she's not originally from Texas.
	But Daniel and Todd, are you aware of an app that does photographic plant identification for wild edibles?
	Is there an app like that, Daniel?
	I wish I could give you the name of it, Mike.
	I don't use that kind of stuff, but a lot of my friends do.
	And there's two things going on here.
	So I'll differentiate and people have to do a little research.
	I apologize on this one.
	I should probably have that on the top of my head.
	But Some of the apps use AI to recognize plants, and some of them, and this is what I prefer, some of them, you upload your picture and it goes to a panel of botanists who review it and you get an answer back within 24 hours.
	Whoa, really?
	And that's going to be a much safer way, because we've all seen how AI can easily make mistakes, especially early mistakes in pattern recognition.
	Yeah.
	So, when you're dealing with certain classes of plants, now, plants are not nearly as dangerous as people like to act like they are, but you do have a handful of species where you could make a pretty dangerous mistake.
	And so, I like to have a human interface if possible.
	So, I would recommend, you know, if you want to use both before you go eat the thing, just make sure you vet it by somebody.
	I personally have botnist friends, and it's nice to be able to send them photos so I can get a for sure, you know?
	Right.
	You know what, Mike?
	You know what, Mike?
	So the app is called Picture This that I use, and it's fantastic.
	I mean, it's fantastic.
	But now, and I'm glad you reminded me of that, I do that in my food forest, but over the weekend, I'm going to go try to journey back in the real forest And just start taking pictures and see, and I'll report back.
	See if it was, you know, if there were things that I didn't know what they were and if they told me.
	That'd be very cool.
	Okay, I see.
	Yeah, picture this.
	This is an app.
	Are you using it on an iPhone then?
	Yep.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So I see it's on Androids as well.
	But again, I wish...
	I don't know if Picture has this, but I wish there's an app that does this and then says, and this is edible or not, or caution.
	Yeah, and you know what would be useful, Mike, is...
	Knowing a thing is edible is not the same as knowing when it's edible.
	Yeah, good point.
	Somebody would say, hey, dandelion's edible, and then you walk up and you're like, this tastes like shit, what is this?
	It's like dandelion's edible first thing in the spring before it's produced any of its bitter compounds.
	Right.
	Or dandelion's food is edible.
	So it's helpful to know.
	Forging isn't just about what you can eat.
	It's when you harvest it, and that's crucial knowledge too.
	So you need all that.
	And I actually would like to add one more piece to this.
	I think it's really smart right now to have paper backups, and so I really recommend people start collecting field guides for their area, for their personal libraries.
	So, you know, and not just edible stuff.
	It's good to, because you, sometimes, what if you're reading your field guide, you're looking for an edible plant, and it tells you, well, it tends to be around this plant, this plant, and this plant.
	Well, I need to be able to identify those too.
	So, mushroom field guides, plant field guides, if you're coastal, seaside, Coastal, you know, invertebrate guides.
	All that kind of stuff is just smart to tuck away into your library.
	Maybe you never need it, but maybe one day you do, and then you have that great resource to draw upon.
	Daniel, quick question.
	What?
	I have a ton of squirrel back there, so I'm thinking in advance.
	I'm thinking later.
	What is your best method, if you're not going to use a gun, to be able to capture a squirrel?
	Why not a gun?
	I'm just curious.
	I'm going to ask you a question on that, too.
	Some of us don't live on ranches, and if we shoot a gun, our neighbors will be able to hear it.
	Get a suppressor for your squirrel hunting.
	I want to just say that air guns are not regulated as firearms.
	You can purchase an air gun, have it sent right to you over the internet.
	They now make air guns that people are big game hunting in Africa with.
	50 caliber air guns that have enough foot pounds of energy at impact.
	Do you happen to know any website or any specific brand or whatever?
	Air guns of Arizona would be the website I'd send you to.
	They got a lot of different brands there and they have some awesome hunting experts on staff.
	So air guns like rifles are going to come in calibers.
	So a squirrel, you know, a gray squirrel, you're going to want Probably a.22 caliber would be great.
	Air guns are fantastic.
	They come in a lot of varieties.
	The break action ones that you pump, ones that actually you fill with either a compressor or a bike pump, that's a much better system.
	Yeah.
	And they come semi-automatic.
	So, you know, you can get around a lot of city ordinances.
	Just know this, the other great way is trapping, but trapping is highly, highly regulated.
	So while you could probably catch those squirrels with a big rat trap or a snare or a have a heart or anything like that, just be mindful about state regulations.
	Plants are so unregulated that it's incumbent upon the forager to be ecologically savvy and intelligent about the harvest so it's sustainable.
	But animals are highly regulated and you are dealing with legal issues, so make sure that you know if you're down there.
	And by the way, Todd, your best bet, bro, iguanas.
	Well, those are a little more south.
	We don't have iguanas in Tampa.
	It's worth the trip.
	Watch my iguana episode.
	It's worth the trip.
	Those I'll catch with a snare that I put on the end of a long fishing rod, and I snare those guys.
	That is the chicken of the trees.
	Chicken of the trees!
	Is it delicious?
	Yeah.
	It's like, yeah, it's like chicken stew.
	Some of these air guns cost more than my AR-15 costs.
	Oh, yeah.
	And by the way, let me give one more.
	Look, here's one more little tip on that.
	A very light, I have one air gun that is, I mean, wouldn't kill a gray squirrel probably, but it'll kill a songbird.
	And Again, that's not really on the menu in most states right now for hunting purposes, but when everybody's wiping out the deer, you know, a robin and a blue jay is just as good as a morning dove.
	That's a great point.
	Plenty of people are thinking in the box.
	So air guns are great, and traps are great, and they're very easy to learn how to use both of those.
	Okay, thank you.
	I think the small animals had a convention and got together and named you the most dangerous human on planet Earth.
	I think that's...
	They took a vote.
	You are there, Klaus Schwab.
	The iguanas and the squirrels, they all agreed.
	Dang a Vitalis!
	Don't let him speak!
	Yeah.
	Let him eat the cows.
	One of the best things you can eat.
	Squirrel, part it out, and then simmered in stock for about 45 minutes.
	Yeah.
	Take them out, dredge them in flour, and then pan fry them.
	And, I mean, that's about as good as it gets.
	I mean, I don't know.
	What's your weekend project, Todd?
	It's recently won everyone over.
	My mother-in-law.
	Everybody wants to eat squirrel the way I prepared.
	It comes out like buffalo wings.
	Oh my gosh.
	Every morning I go out with a huge, huge barrel of feed for the deer and the raccoon and everything.
	And I spread it and my squirrels are getting so fat.
	And I'm like, man, they're starting to look really good.
	I'm trying to wrap this up, but I just keep making me want to say things.
	I'm sorry, Mike, but I just want to say this last thing.
	I have fattened squirrels up on sunflower seed.
	And what will happen, just like happens with us when they overeat, is they'll make big deposits of fat around their organs, right?
	So all of that sort of intra-abdominal fat.
	You can take that and render it, just like lard, and produce a food-grade culinary oil.
	So, if you fatten those squirrels up, you've got access to fats.
	That's the hardest thing to find on the landscape.
	So, when you're doing wild foods, protein's not too hard to find, roughage is easy to find, nutrients are easy to find.
	Fat is hard to find, and it's precious for people alive.
	There's not a bacon plant anywhere?
	There's not a bacon plant.
	Here, we don't have hogs in Maine.
	We have bears.
	That's where we get our fat.
	Oh, regarding the bears.
	So you and your wife, Avani, raised a couple of little ones named Elian Diaz through my research.
	Daniel, what the heck is a plot hound, and do they really hunt bears?
	Yeah, they're bear dogs.
	But they're treeing dogs, so they can tree raccoons, bears.
	Big cats, but they'll also be used to hunt hogs.
	They're an all-purpose baying and treeing dog.
	Mine are just dogs.
	I've taken them out of the game, and it's hard to raise animals like that at home because they want to hunt everything.
	But yeah, dogs are, you know, I mean, the reason we have pet dogs is because of hunting.
	That's why we have them.
	Got it.
	All right, gentlemen.
	Daniel, thank you for your time.
	Todd, we've got to let Daniel go.
	I know you have a thousand more questions, but Daniel, this is amazing information.
	You're already opening people's eyes here on this show today to some things they can do to be decentralized from the food control systems.
	I want to give out your website, sirthrival.com.
	Wait, first your show, WildFed.
	That's wild-fed.com.
	And then I think this, wait, that's biosludge.
	Where did your site go?
	Anyway, sirthrival.com.
	Oh, here it is.
	Okay.
	With your black walnut protein powder.
	Is there anything else, Daniel, you want to add before we wrap this up?
	You find me on Instagram.
	I write a lot about wild foods there, and I sort of catalog species, and there's a lot of good information there for somebody who's trying to learn about that.
	What's your handle there?
	Daniel Vitalis.
	Oh, okay.
	Oh, I follow you.
	I follow you.
	Awesome.
	I came up with the term Yardenarchy, you know, with my Yardenarchy.
	It just came up.
	I'm like, this is anarchy.
	And I'm like, Yardenarchy.
	So Yardenarchy follows you.
	Hey, and Todd, if you get a chance to check out some of the episodes, season three, we...
	Cover a really cool food forest in Hawaii, in Honolulu.
	That's awesome.
	I'm going to begin binging this tonight, frankly.
	That sounds like a great weekend project.
	Okay, Daniel, thank you so much, man.
	We appreciate you.
	You're helping people stay alive and informed, and have a great day.
	Thanks so much, guys.
	Nice meeting you, Daniel.
	Likewise.
	All right, Todd.
	Look, I did not realize we were going to be talking about fattening squirrels and everything, but I saw you taking notes.
	You're going to do all this stuff, which is awesome.
	You know me.
	Like barbecue grasshoppers.
	Is that coming next?
	I will capture it on video, Mike.
	I promise you.
	Okay.
	I'm going to figure this out because I think it's really, really smart.
	It's like I love his perspective on the real hunters in my area.
	Oh, yeah.
	They're going to just...
	I'm not going to be able to go back to my herd of seven deer and they're going to be any...
	No, they're going to be gone.
	Yeah, because that's the easy stuff for other people to get.
	Right.
	So why not learn this now?
	Why not me, Mike?
	Hold on one second.
	Daniel, you don't have to stay connected here at this point.
	I know you're being very courteous.
	Well, guys, just say thank you so much and let's be in touch.
	Absolutely.
	We're going to do a little bit of the after show thing, but yeah, have a great day, Daniel.
	Thanks, guys.
	Take care.
	All right.
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	So Todd, hey, something I wanted to add here.
	Welcome to the after party for everybody watching.
	I didn't get a chance to mention this during the show, but we got our hands on a bunch of open source book information about wild foods foraging, and we're using that to train our AI system.
	Fascinating.
	Yeah.
	We're going to have the world's only AI, text-based, that is trained on a substantial amount of wild foods and foraging content.
	That's big news.
	I mean, that's exactly what I was looking for.
	Yeah, but sadly, it doesn't do pictures or anything.
	So a lot of this, you really need pictures.
	But if you just want discussions and text about asking and answering questions about wild foods, as long as you know the species name and so on, this AI engine will be very good.
	Wow.
	What an amazing AI that you are...
	I mean, it's just nuts.
	It's wild.
	We had a guy, the founder of the Arlington Institute, has donated to us 1,500 books in digital PDF format on UFOs and unexplained phenomena.
	So he's like, do you want this collection of 1,500 books on UFOs?
	I'm like, are you kidding me?
	We'll have a UFO language model, man.
	That is so cool.
	That is so cool.
	That's just going to be a repository of truth.
	Dude, it's unbelievable.
	Also, it's called A4M, the American Anti-Aging...
	Association, I think, is what it is, A4M. They're all about anti-aging medicine and nutrition.
	They're donating like 10,000 hours of video for the AI model as well.
	My gosh.
	Yeah.
	My gosh.
	Congratulations, Mike.
	I mean, was this even a germ of an idea a year ago or no?
	No.
	No.
	I started this around a little after Thanksgiving last year, so we're well under a year.
	Yeah.
	Crazy.
	Anyway, I don't mean to get distracted.
	Let's get back to our guest today, and I know you've got some stuff to talk about too, but Daniel Vitalis is just...
	That guy is an amazing individual.
	And the longer I've known him, the more impressed I've become with him.
	You can tell.
	I mean, he's very bright.
	He's very bright, and he's very...
	He's just, I'm just going to say, a normal dude.
	He's a guy you just like to hang out with.
	He's fun to hang out with.
	I bet.
	I bet.
	And riff about literally everything.
	But gosh, I was serious when I'm like, my strategy for survival when it hits the fan is...
	I'm with him.
	He joined me on a tour that we had in South America.
	We were climbing mountains looking at ancient artifacts and the museum in Quito.
	And Daniel was there, some other amazing people as well.
	But I've been out in nature hiking with Daniel.
	And he was always adventurous.
	We were like looking over the edge of this cliff.
	It was crazy.
	This was in...
	Yeah, this was in Ecuador.
	We were looking over the edge of this cliff.
	And I'm telling you, it must have been 1,500 feet deep into this ravine.
	Yeah.
	Like crazy deep and incredibly steep on the edges.
	And Daniel's like, I think I could go down that.
	And I'm like...
	I'm not sure you can, actually.
	But he's like, I want to try that.
	So he's always had this adventurous attitude.
	And I was thinking, oh my God, don't get close to the edge.
	But he was like, I can make it.
	But thank God he has that attitude.
	He's very adventurous.
	And he turned it into this really successful career, philosophy.
	I mean, this guy, he is now world-renowned.
	In this area of wild foods.
	Well earned.
	Well earned.
	I'm glad he brought that up.
	I was going to ask, is it on Netflix or Amazon Prime or any of those or whatever?
	Just make it easy because usually that's what they do.
	They put the series on there and you can go binge watch.
	And yes, Amazon Prime.
	Seasons one through three, and I am going to begin my binge-watching career this weekend.
	And I'm not going to feel guilty about it.
	You know what I mean?
	It's not like, let's turn my brain off and go watch Netflix.
	I'm going to be learning a lot over the next three seasons, because I'm going to binge-watch it all over the next couple of weeks.
	The other thing I really love about having Daniel on the show here today is because a lot of our guests, let's face it, they're in the virtual world or the digital world, right?
	So we talk a lot about crypto or security or privacy, VPNs or what have you.
	And that has its place.
	That's very important.
	But sometimes, what if you do if there's an EMP weapon, a cyber attack, grid down scenario?
	And you need to have real world decentralization.
	Yes, you do.
	Things that you know how to do in the physical world.
	And so that's where this fits right in.
	There's nothing wrong with being somebody who's got crypto, and you understand tech, and you also know how to eat grasshoppers to stay alive.
	There's nothing wrong with that.
	No, not at all.
	Not at all.
	I have been using these three words a lot in conversation with people, Mike.
	But live life locally.
	That's just something that has...
	It empowers me.
	And it came to me as I've been communing with my food forest.
	Oh, yeah.
	And I've had a lot of people who have come in for consultations, and Mike, people are scared to death.
	What?
	Scared of what?
	They're scared the world is just going to bang be gone.
	And their lives are...
	People are living in a lot of fear.
	And to a point...
	That's because the world is collapsing.
	I'm just saying.
	I know.
	But to that point, you know, my first bit of counsel is, look, to combat that fear is you got to stop feeding it.
	So shut off your TV and live life locally.
	That's where it came.
	I said that out loud in a consultation.
	And what I meant was, look, go outside locally, just close by locally.
	I mean, we can all take a walk.
	I told this one gentleman last week, he said that he just bought this $99 bike.
	And I said, take that bike.
	Drive down, you know, right in your neighborhood, and what I want you to do is make it your mission every day to come back home and remember one thing that you never noticed.
	It could be some lady's precious little front garden that, you know, she's put a lot of love and care into that we all just ignore as we drive by, right, in our cars and such.
	But just take a look at it and admire it and such.
	And I invite everybody to do that.
	Just start one day at a time.
	Go out in the morning.
	Live life locally and appreciate everything that we've been given right in our backyard, literally.
	Well, and speaking of backyards, that's where a lot of wild foods grow without any effort at all.
	And I was wanting to say this during the show.
	If you want to have a list of what foods grow, You can grow in your yard.
	Just contact your HOA and find out what's banned.
	Because anything that they've banned is something that probably wants to grow there, like dandelions.
	And there's so much food that can come spontaneously without effort.
	And I've mentioned this before, and I know you appreciate this, and you've got your food for us.
	And I have a lot of fruit trees and things that I've planted as well, vegetables.
	I was eating a fresh peach yesterday just...
	Off the tree, but I put it in the fridge to make it cold.
	So a cold, fresh peach.
	Oh my God.
	It's like heaven.
	But there's so much food that requires no effort.
	And the only effort that I've really put into it is just not spraying herbicides on the ranch.
	No pesticides, no herbicides.
	I'm not trying to kill everything.
	I'm just looking at what's growing.
	And it's amazing.
	So much food comes out of that Effortlessly.
	And what I've learned is even like in the food forest, even as things come up and I recognize them as invasive weeds, unless they are flowering and seeding and whatnot, they're not going to spread in your food forest.
	What happens is you stay tuned in and then at the right time you cut them down and use them for what's called chop and drop to where you cut them up and you feed them.
	The base of all of your trees.
	And I never knew that, Mike.
	So you can literally take weeds and turn them into food for, you know, your peach tree.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Absolutely.
	And we recently, we moved a big fig tree.
	Okay.
	And when I say big, I mean the trunk was about eight inches diameter.
	So it's pretty big.
	But the way we had to move it, we had to cut it down to almost, like, we cut off every leaf and almost every branch to some extent.
	I mean, it was like naked and bare at that point.
	And we're thinking, is this thing even going to survive?
	My goodness.
	And just in terms of resilience, you know, fig trees are very resilient.
	And we transplanted it, didn't even get all the roots back in the ground correctly, like one giant root still hanging out.
	And two weeks later, this thing is thriving.
	All new branches and leaves all coming out because I'm feeding it pond water, like fish pond water.
	And it's doing great.
	And it's like, no problem.
	We ripped it up and moved it, and it's like, no problem.
	I can thrive here, too.
	And don't you find it amazing that, like, in the food forest out back, there was a scheduled plan of what we planted.
	But I have all kinds of other stuff growing there.
	Oh, yeah, I'm sure.
	The birds have brought in.
	And, you know, it's neat to see nature at work.
	Yeah.
	You know, you just let go and let God is the right phrase, I think.
	It's true.
	Yeah.
	Oh man, I forgot to ask Daniel about pawpaws.
	But he was smiling when I was asking that.
	But that's like a custard-like, it's like this weird mixture, like part mango, part apple, part pineapple.
	But it grows in North America, at least the southern parts.
	And I wanted to ask his opinion on that, but well, I guess we'll have to do that next time.
	When I was in Ecuador, we were growing, I thought we had 75 or 80 fruit trees.
	Growing there.
	We were building out a food force and those were like cherimoyas and mangoes and we had some cashew trees growing.
	It was, of course, the papaya and all the usual easy stuff, but we had a fruit bonanza going.
	Wow.
	It was great.
	So it just became ultra abundant?
	Very quickly.
	Speaking of abundant, anybody watching who's remotely interested in food forestry or any of that, go back to our fourth interview with Jim Gale and just watch it.
	He's the CEO of foodforestabundance.com.
	That's what the word abundant kind of triggered me.
	But I just want to keep directing people back to that because ultimately, man, I think this is where it's at.
	I think we've got to learn how to grow our own food, Mike.
	Oh, yeah.
	Actually, let me bring this up, too.
	We interviewed his partner.
	Oh, right.
	All right, here it is at brightu.com.
	Beginning...
	Saturday, June 8th, we have the Spring Permaculture Summit that's streaming for free at Brighton University.
	And if anybody's watching this after that, we've got the whole course downloadable for $99 at brightonuniversity.com.
	This is with Jim Gale's partner.
	It's about everything that they do at foodforestabundance.com, but they're teaching you how to do it yourself.
	Anyway, you can watch it for free right here at brightu.com.
	The Spring Permaculture Summit.
	Hey, Mike, is that available now?
	I'm going to download it.
	I'm going to pay the $99.
	That sounds like beautiful, perfect content.
	That's an investment, not an expense.
	Well, it is, but you might already know all this because you hired these people to bill your food for us.
	No, you never know.
	I don't know anything.
	I'm serious.
	These guys have forgotten so much.
	Man, you have learned so much in the last year.
	One of the things I love about you is that when you learn something, you actually just do it.
	You put it into use.
	It's not just an intellectual exercise.
	You're doing it.
	Like today, I know you're going to fry up grasshoppers now.
	I know you're going to do it.
	You're going to send me pictures.
	Look, this one tried to hop away, but we got it and we fried it and I ate it.
	I will.
	Oh my gosh.
	You do me well.
	Do you kill it before you cook it?
	Do you freeze it and then cook it or kill it?
	When do you kill it?
	I wanted to go granular there because I was serious.
	Okay, do you gas the grasshoppers?
	Do you knock them out with chloroform and then you cook them?
	My mind started going to the bees.
	There are so many out there, and I'm like, okay, how do I harvest maybe 500 bees, put them in the freezer real quick?
	That would be an easy one for me, but I need to be sued up on that for sure.
	Yeah, like...
	Honey, what's that buzzing sound in the freezer?
	Oh, don't open it.
	Not for 15 minutes.
	There's a swarm of bees in there.
	Oh my gosh.
	Don't tell your bees that you're planning on eating them.
	If they hear that, it's game over.
	No more honey for you, Todd.
	Yeah.
	Where are the raccoons, honey?
	I haven't seen our raccoons lately.
	Did you enjoy dinner last night, honey?
	No.
	Well, aren't you glad to know you can fatten up your squirrels and then you can render their fat?
	Oh, totally.
	Totally.
	It's pretty much like Todd Pitner's Fight Club.
	We're rendering body fat to make soap and maybe explosives on the side.
	Who knows?
	It's Fight Club, you know.
	And Mike, you know that I'm going to come on here at some point in time in the not-too-distant future and hold up my prized new possession, my air gun.
	Your air rifle?
	It's a kick-ass air rifle.
	I'm doing it.
	I'm going to start my research tonight.
	Okay.
	You can spend a lot of money on air rifles.
	By the way, I own an air rifle, and mine came with like a bicycle pump.
	You have to pump the crap out of that thing to get it to the PSI. Yeah, it takes a lot of pumping.
	You're pumping more than shooting, basically, with air rifles.
	Okay.
	But they are quiet.
	I think I'll get some canisters, too, so that I can have immediate gratification when that fat squirrel is just staring me down.
	Yeah.
	But air rifles probably have a very important role in survival, kind of stealth survival.
	You're not making a lot of noise.
	Right.
	No.
	And I think you have to do, obviously, for ease, you want to get the CO2 cartridges and things like that, but we do need some that are the air pump.
	They have really big tanks on them like this that are attached to the rifle.
	And you pump those up, and then you get a certain number of shots out of it, and usually they're all like bolt action, basically.
	Most of them.
	Maybe somebody's got semi-auto, but I think they're all bolt action, so it's one shot at a time.
	You're not going to fight off the zombies with it, that's for sure.
	No, well, we have other devices for that.
	Yeah, noise-making devices.
	If the zombie war comes, you just, all right, drop the air rifle, you know, get the semi-auto.308 or the Barrett.
	Just get the Barrett out.
	Bring the Barrett, honey!
	It's in the freezer with the bees, you know?
	Yeah.
	Okay, so Todd, you and I always have fun in this after party.
	Is there anything else you want to add before we go to some of the plugs that help keep this show going?
	No, I just want to...
	I presume Daniel's going to watch this back.
	I hope he does, but Daniel really enjoyed your time, and you've opened my eyes up to a lot, and I hope to continue to not only follow you, but...
	If you're ever down here in Florida, please reach out to me because, I mean, I just want to, like, draft in your wake for, like, a few days.
	See you do what you do.
	If you hang around, Daniel, just by osmosis, you learn so much.
	Yeah.
	No, I have one.
	I have one.
	Daniel, hear me.
	I think this is valid.
	I mean, I live in a suburban area.
	Now, I happen to back up to a preserve.
	Hey, do a show down here to show how you can go from, you know, your kitchen through your food forest, wave to your bees, and then let's go forage back there.
	Show everyone what we can get.
	I like that idea.
	Yeah, that does sound like fun.
	But to your point, hanging out with Daniel is always fun.
	And the funniest memory I have with Daniel is we, with a group, we were going to a museum on the equator in Ecuador.
	And it's, I forgot the name, but it's like the Museum of the Equator.
	And at the museum, we ran into this group of Japanese tourists.
	With, of course, lots of cameras, mostly female Japanese tourists.
	And they noticed that Daniel Vitalis has a lot of tattoos.
	And so they started taking pictures of him, and he took off his shirt.
	He took off his shirt.
	The dude is covered.
	I mean, it's an elaborate ink.
	Wow.
	You know, canvas, basically.
	His chest and his back and his arms, all ink, all elaborate, mind-blowing patterns, and the Japanese tourists went nuts.
	I think some of it, if I recall, is like samurai images or something.
	I don't recall exactly, but the Japanese tourists went nuts, and they were like, the Japanese women were like, screw the museum.
	This guy, Daniel Vitalis, this is the guy to see.
	He was a superstar among the Japanese tourists there for that day.
	It was so funny.
	That's cool.
	We couldn't pull him away from the Japanese.
	Like, we want to take this guy back to Japan.
	That's great.
	Yeah, just wild.
	Let's plug some sponsors for the show.
	Let's start with you and thank our audience for keeping the show online.
	We do have costs to cover here, but you've got your website, Decentralized Directory.
	Let me actually bring it up.
	Here it is, decentralizeddirectory.com.
	So, Todd, take it away.
	Well, you know, if you go down to where the decentralized partners are and you click that yellow, and you scroll down and you go to the middle one, the thing that people should focus on is the Unincorporated Nonprofit Association.
	And I will tell you, I've done so many of these and I've had so many consultations.
	I figured out how to make this easier for people to understand it and consider it without having to pay a consultation fee.
	So if everyone would just write down my email address, it's imtodd.com.
	at protonmail.com and if you're interested in it, I recently did a presentation to a large group and that was followed up by a private consultation with a business person who had an LLC wanting to know how to be able to integrate that into an incorporated non-profit association and that 45 minutes is pure gold because it's with Dennis who's been doing this for 34 years.
	He's forgotten more than I'll ever know and And there were so many good, it was such a great Q&A, and I captured it all, and I turned, I combined both of those into a 90-minute video.
	And it will share everything, everything that you could get from a direct session with me.
	And if you would like to get access to it, because it is an unlisted video, you can email me, tell me you're interested, I'll send you a link.
	And you can go watch it.
	And then after that, look, it's your movie.
	If you'd like to continue discussions, you can give me a buzz.
	You don't need to do a consultation fee.
	The only reason why I have the consultation fee on there, Mike, and you know that, is just to vet out the people that need to be vetted out.
	But I want to get this information out to people.
	It is so powerful.
	And it It's literally changing people's lives, helping them keep more of what they earn and lower their tax burden lawfully.
	So that's kind of how I've rejiggered everything, Mike, to make it easy for people.
	I would like to see that 90-minute presentation, too.
	I haven't seen that yet.
	Okay, yeah, send it to me.
	I'd love to see it.
	You bet.
	I need to learn more about this UNA that you've been talking about.
	I don't know enough about it.
	So I'm open to learning anything I can.
	So definitely set it my way.
	Well, you've been presenting World War III to everyone.
	You've been a little busy, Mike, over the last year.
	There's a lot going on.
	That's for sure.
	But again, that's at decentralizeddirectory.com.
	Now, another sponsor of the show is the Above Phone Company.
	If you go to abovephone.com slash DTV, And they sell de-Googled phones.
	And de-Googled phones, of course, don't have any Google on them whatsoever.
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	They have also notebook computers, and they've got a whole new upgrade to their operating system coming out now for their new phones.
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	We're trying to make that better and then include that on future phone shipments.
	But check that out at abovephone.com slash DTV. Now, one more thing to mention.
	If you go to phone123.com, let me bring that up.
	Phone123.com forwards you to Connecta Mobile.
	This is a new sponsor of our show.
	They're tied into the Satellite Phone Store.
	And Connecta Mobile is a replacement for your carrier service.
	So they send you a SIM card.
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	And Todd, do you want to be in Miami today?
	You could be.
	I want to be there every day.
	I want to be there every day, Mike.
	But this service, which includes a suite of software, you can install it on an above phone.
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	So if you want absolutely secure, like military-grade security for voice calls because, you know, you're talking about dangerous things like eating grasshoppers and honeybee skillet specials, then you definitely need this phone.
	Or your secret air rifle project, you want to use these phones.
	That's at phone123.com.
	So those are our sponsors for today, Todd.
	Great.
	Excellent.
	Excellent.
	Thank you.
	Thank you everyone out there supporting the show by actually...
	Going and taking advantage of our sponsors and all they offer.
	Look, we offer solutions that are legit, you know?
	Yes.
	I mean, you notice our sponsors are never like, hey, fashion sneakers or discount cruises to wherever or handbags.
	No.
	Right.
	These are practical things that achieve the goal of the show, which is decentralization.
	Yes.
	Protect your privacy.
	Protect your security.
	Get off the grid.
	Have redundancies in your life.
	Keep more of what you earn, as you say, Todd.
	Yes.
	All these things matter.
	So I'm thrilled with the fact that we're able to reach so many people with so many solutions.
	It is amazing that it's been over a year, Mike.
	I know.
	It's just amazing.
	It went by so fast.
	It did.
	Really incredible.
	I love you, Mike.
	You are the best.
	You really are.
	Todd, you're awesome.
	I love the fact that you're putting into practice everything that we learn on the show and keep sending us...
	I know you send me videos, but let's show some of your videos on the show next time.
	Okay, sure.
	How about...
	Are you going to fry up some grasshoppers?
	You know, when I figure out where they are and how to get them, I made a note.
	I'm going to go to Amazon and I'm going to get me a butterfly net.
	Okay, all right.
	I want you to fry up grasshoppers then.
	And then we'll show that on the show.
	Okay.
	We'll do like the Daniel Vitalis special segment.
	Yeah.
	Even if he's not here, we'll show the grasshoppers.
	And then one day I get arrested and you're like, why did Todd Pitner get arrested?
	And be like, I don't know, man.
	He keeps jumping fences.
	He keeps going in his neighbor's backyards with a net.
	With a net running around the neighborhood.
	Man, I can't stop all the grasshoppers on my ranch.
	They're everywhere.
	But that's because I don't poison everything, so it's very abundant with insect life.
	Yeah, that's cool.
	And amphibians, too.
	We've got all kinds of frogs, and then we have all kinds of rabbits, and so we have all kinds of predators and falcons.
	Do you have a lake on your property?
	I'm curious.
	Not a lake.
	We have a pond.
	Okay.
	It's got fish in it.
	Okay.
	It's big enough to draw water out of, but what we really have, we have an abundance of wildlife.
	Do you?
	Armadillos and owls.
	We have owls, and they're so...
	Well, these owls, you know, they fly in stealth mode, right?
	They're very quiet.
	Okay.
	You know that about owls?
	I didn't.
	They're engineered to be silent flyers.
	Wow.
	So you can't hear their wings.
	Interesting.
	Unlike a lot of other, like, waterfowl, you can hear their wings, like ducks.
	They're not stealth ducks.
	You can hear them, flap, flap, flap, flap, flap.
	Owls, you can't hear them at all.
	And they hunt at night.
	So if I'm ever out walking at night in certain parts of the ranch, occasionally, there goes an owl.
	One time I saw it grabbing a field mouse or something at night.
	Wow, how cool.
	They're totally quiet.
	They're like the stealth bombers of the bird world.
	That's crazy.
	Yeah.
	I mean...
	Spooky creatures too, man.
	But that's why, you know, like in Native American lore, like spotting owls is always a very ominous negative thing.
	Oh.
	Yeah, owls represent like doom in Native American lore.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And they are kind of spooky.
	I mean, they hunt at night and you never see them coming.
	And their heads spin around like the Exorcist movies, you know.
	I'm like, what?
	Is that a bird?
	What is that?
	Oh, yeah.
	Where's Mike?
	I don't know.
	He said he wanted to go hunt some owl.
	Hunt some owl.
	Oh, man.
	And if you have a small dog, you know, owl might get it.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	So anyway, yeah, that's a weird story to end with.
	But there you go.
	So, Todd, let's call it a day.
	Great to have a show with you again.
	You bet.
	I love what we're doing here, and let's keep it going.
	A lot more coming.
	Okay.
	Well, thank you, everybody, for watching.
	We always appreciate you.
	Yes, we do.
	Yes.
	Thank you all.
	Thank you for your support.
	Thank you for checking out our sponsors, and thank you for sharing the word about this show.
	It's at decentralized.tv to watch all the other episodes that are just as good.
	Some even different, you know, better in different ways because they talk about different things, crypto privacy, whatever food for us, all kinds of things, but check it out at decentralized.tv.
	And you know what, I just want to end by saying this.
	Those of you who watch this, hopefully you appreciate the time and energy that we spend in bringing this to you.
	And we appreciate your support for our sponsors, but another way that you could support us is maybe just on purpose, with intent, think about, I want to be able to share one of these shows with three people out there.
	Let's kind of get the word spreading that we exist.
	There's a lot of solutions that we bring to the table here that we think and hopefully you do too others could benefit from as well.
	Absolutely.
	Thanks for that suggestion.
	Yeah, spread the word because you will help other people be more self-reliant, more prepared, more informed.
	No matter what comes, good or bad, these are life skills and strategies that can help everybody, the people that you know, to be protected against the unknown.
	Next week we're actually going to be interviewing somebody who's going to take a deep dive into what do you do when the worst thing in the world happens and you run out of battery with your clicker when you're watching Netflix.
	I'll try to figure out who that is, but I think the answer is eat more iguanas.
	Oh, I like that.
	All right.
	Well, Todd, thanks for the show today.
	Always great to have you on, and I look forward to seeing you next week.
	We'll do another one.
	All right.
	Thank you, Mike.
	All right.
	You bet.
	Take care, Todd.
	And thank you all for watching today.
	Again, decentralized.tv is the website.
	And, of course, I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.com, the platform that carries this uncensored show.
	So thank you for watching today.
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	Take care, everybody. everybody.
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