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Author and geopolitical analyst Andrei Martyanov interviewed by Mike Adams...
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Welcome to today's interview on Brighteon.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.
And with what's going on between the NATO forces and Russia, especially with the West now stealing nearly $300 billion worth of Russian assets and using that to try to fund more money to Ukraine, which is a failed state and a corrupt failed state at this point, we had to bring on returning guest Andrei Martinov.
And this man is absolutely brilliant.
He is a...
Well, I guess you could say a Russian-American.
He wasn't born in what is today considered Russia, but he did serve in his youth in the Soviet Navy, and he's a brilliant man, but he is an American, and he has incredibly valuable commentary that you won't hear anywhere else.
So welcome, Mr.
Martinov, to our show today.
It's an honor to have you on, sir.
Oh, it's my pleasure, Mike.
Definitely.
My pleasure.
May I just call you Andrei during the interview?
Absolutely.
Please do.
Well, I have seen so many of your interviews and I've really come to admire the depth of your analysis and your understanding of geopolitical events and also especially military events.
So here we stand at the verge of what many Americans believe is You know, three seconds to midnight or whatever it is, on the verge of nuclear war.
And I will say as an American that our own leadership have demonstrated themselves to be the most incompetent, arrogant and historically ignorant leaders that I think we've ever had in this nation, in the whole history of the nation.
And that they are thrusting us toward nuclear war, whereas Vladimir Putin in the speech he gave last Friday just laid out calmly, methodically the truth of the situation and the West completely ignores it.
How would you describe the current situation between the West and Russia?
Well, I want to go as far as the danger of the nuclear war.
There is a lot of hand-waving and, you know, statements on part of the West, such as this stupidest statement from Jan Stoltenberg yesterday, I believe, about the fact that, oh yeah, when you To prepare some kind of readiness, you know, of nuclear weapons.
First, Stoltenberg decides nothing.
He is a puppet, and nobody would get him near American nuclear arsenal, the only arsenal which really matters in the West.
United Kingdom is not an independent owner of the nuclear deterrent.
France, well, they talk much, but you know what?
So, in this case, it's primarily an increase in the aggressive rhetoric on the part of the combined West driven by the United States, but I don't think so there is any danger of the nuclear confrontation.
One of the reasons for that, and why they went into this, you know, how to put it, increased the pitch of the hysteria, because there is no force which NATO can produce which can fight Russia conventionally without being defeated, utterly sustaining catastrophic losses.
So as a result, they do what they usually do.
And the only thing they can do, the combined West and so-called leadership, they can do PR. They have only two skills which they have.
Well, probably three.
They have the ability to PR themselves, to re-elect themselves, and of course, yeah, they take bribes in different forms, you know, so it's not really corrupt.
Andrei, let me just jump right into a deeper question from that, though.
Another skill that the West has is the skill of carrying out false flag attacks against themselves.
This is a major concern among many of us in alternative media, so I'll ask you to just give us your analysis, but many of us believe that the West acquired, of course, Russian nuclear material, which is, you know, over the years, since the 1990s and so on, and of course, you know, A lot of the processed uranium comes from Russia anyway for the nuclear power plants in America.
So there's a lot of Russian nuclear material that the West, some deep state intelligence organization, could build even a crude atomic bomb, not even a modern thermonuclear weapon, but an old school atomic bomb using Russian material.
They could detonate it in a U.S. city or on a U.S. aircraft carrier or whatever and then blame Russia and then start the war that way.
That's a concern of ours.
What do you say to that?
No, it's highly unlikely because, well, if you have the situation with, let's say, imagine this, from what's the name of it, this stupid Tom Clancy book, I mean, I don't think he ever wrote any smart book in his life.
The Hunt for Red October, is that one?
No, no, the sum of all fears, I believe.
Oh, sum of all fears, okay.
Yeah, so yeah, they show, well, yeah, so we have the explosion, nuclear explosion, they blame it on Russia.
Well, they have to respond with their nuclear strike after that, because as I already stated, West is absolutely conventionally impotent.
So, well, then it's World War III and everybody dies, including those people who wanted, you know, to create this false flag.
I'm not saying that there are no nutjobs in Washington.
I don't talk about Europe.
They are irrelevant.
But, yeah, there are some nutjobs.
There are neocons, obviously, some of them fanatical Russophobes, and they do it not only out of any kind of geostrategic, so to speak, considerations.
They do it out of spite of Russia.
They hate Russian gods.
But I doubt it, you know, because in the end, if they blame it, and let's say, God forbid, of course, something happens like this and they blame it on Russia, what do they do?
Launch?
Well, Russia will launch in response immediately.
And that will be it.
Including those neocons, however fanatic they are.
Well, I'm glad you used the term fanatic because I think that's an accurate description of what many of these people are.
But here's the problem with fanatics is that they're not rational.
So, you know, years ago we had more of a rational discourse.
We had diplomacy, which does not exist in the West anymore.
Nobody in the West bothers to even read Putin's speeches.
They're probably incapable of comprehending a 10,000-word speech, by the way.
So we don't have diplomacy.
We have fanatics.
And, I mean, I say this with respect, Andre, because I respect your opinion, but I think it might be possible you may be underestimating the insanity of the fanaticism of the Western leaders.
Is that a possibility you would consider?
No.
Well, it is definitely a possibility.
In fact, as I considered, I spoke about it on a number of occasions that, of course, we cannot never discount some, you know, nutjob who will somehow get, you know, to the nuclear button, you know, but this red button actually is the,
how to put it politely, it's several ways to, so to speak, make a decision on the deployment of the nuclear deterrent, and In this case, it's not, except for the U.S. president or anybody who comes after him, God forbid something happens to Joe Biden before November elections, but the point is there is always a possibility.
The question is how probable it is.
And the probability of this is not very high.
It does exist.
It's non-trivial, but so far I don't see any, how to put it, signs that in the end, you know what, these are military who do all that.
And U.S. military, even today, after purges of smart people, it's still more rational than whatever is happening now in the political top in Washington.
All right, okay.
Let me mention a couple of things on your behalf here.
You've got a new book that's coming out, America's Final War.
Here it is on Amazon.
It's being released August 1st.
And apparently it's available in the electronic Kindle version right now.
So that's America's Final War.
I do not own that book yet, but I own several of your other books.
I also want to mention your blog site.
It's called Reminiscence of the Future.
It's at smoothiex12.blogspot.com.
That's smoothiex12.
Now, let's talk about naval power and the protection of sea lanes for international commerce, because one of the things that just happened is that Malaysia announced that they're going to join BRICS. This is on top of, of course, Thailand recently announcing it, Turkey announcing it, the Saudis dropping the petrodollar arrangement for selling oil, and so on.
Well, Malaysia, of course, between Malaysia and Indonesia is the Strait of Malacca, this narrow strip of water through which about a quarter of the world's commercial ship traffic sails.
On top of the fact that the Yemen military has shut down the Red Sea access to the Suez Canal, affecting U.S., U.K., and Israeli traffic, If Malaysia joins BRICS, and Malaysia and Indonesia are primarily Muslim countries, they're not necessarily very friendly to the West, and they shut down that strait, then the West has only one canal left.
It's the Panama Canal.
And what's the implication of all of that, Andre, in terms of naval power projection globally?
Well, yeah, the Malacca Strait is one of those fundamental chalk points, you know, on the map.
I doubt anybody will, you know, shut down this strait.
So nobody wants to start any kind of the trade war which threatens to grow into some kind of military operations.
Having said all that, if the United States, for some reason, decides to commit suicide by COP, And start moving its forces over the Atlantic.
Russia has all necessary means to interdict those shipping lanes of communications, which are critical for whatever many people think that will be the war in Europe.
The problem with this, however, hypothesis, which still has the right to exist, is the fact that The United States, in this respect, is one trick pony.
They want Europe to fight Russia.
And then, as a repetition of the World War II, come in late and reap all benefits and just profit greatly from all this destruction and catastrophe.
Obviously, it's not going to work like this anymore.
And the United States operates with the legacy navy.
The legacy navy being their carrier-centric navy, which is absolutely not designed to fight modern weapon systems.
They simply have no ability to shoot down anything modern in terms of their modern anti-shipping supersonic, let alone hypersonic missiles.
And as you correctly pointed out, look what Houthis, I mean, Houthis won essentially their naval campaign without having a navy.
Yes, it's extraordinary.
This is incredible.
They shut down the major ship and landing of communications and NATO navies can do nothing about it because the only thing they know how to do is to, you know, launch the carrier-borne aviation, bomb something, or shoot something in the waters and go back.
And suddenly you have to have a completely different modus operandi to fight this threat, which is, you know, is political, ideological, cultural, if you wish, on part of Houthis who support Palestinians.
So, and guess what?
U.S. Navy and NATO navies, they failed.
Well, it seems to me there are enormous economic implications and geopolitical implications to this.
And one example of that is that Intel, the chip maker, recently canceled a $25 billion chip plant that they were building in Israel.
And the reason they canceled it was because they cannot get raw materials in the Israeli ports because of the Yemeni military interdicting the ships.
I mean, right there, $25 billion plant, canceled.
Yeah, and they shut down almost 90% of the traffic there.
It slides on the wall.
And nothing...
You see, that's the problem.
Fact is, they also pushed their Eisenhower's carrier battle group further into the ocean, because obviously, even against the salvo of old anti-shipping missiles, you will have difficulty shooting them down when they are in salvo.
That means what numerous missiles, not just one or two.
Uh-huh.
And then, of course, you have drones, and you have this and that, and the result now, suddenly, what is happening when your Aegis ships, you know, destroyers of the Arab work class, ran out of their SM-6 missiles?
Wow.
Yes.
What are you going to do after this?
Evidently, who just have their, you know, what, absolutely eternal supply of those things, you know, so they can fly them, you know, 24-7.
And yeah, there you go.
At some point of time, you have 96 cells, 96 cells on the Arlenburg destroyer.
Half of them are loaded with the air defense missiles.
Okay, you can say that you have also this RIM Sea Sparrow type, a World Sea Sparrow missile on the aircraft carrier itself.
Then you have those close incoming artillery things.
But who would actually risk, let alone reputational risk?
Forget about just physical damage to the aircraft carrier, but it's a reputational risk, which blows the water.
The whole premise of the existence of the American power, which is, of course, primarily naval power, and it's about, you know, what, projection of power.
Projection of power meaning what?
You launch carrier-borne aviation, and you bomb with impunity some third-world hole somewhere, you know?
I think you're exactly right.
But if if the U.S. Navy cannot credibly threaten many other nations, I mean, the U.S. spent a billion dollars bombing Yemen is my recent reports said that.
And they didn't stop them, didn't stop them at all.
So if the U.S. can't credibly threaten these other nations, then doesn't that have huge spillover implications into currency?
So why would countries feel like they have to be forced to use the dollar when the dollar can be weaponized against them, and the U.S. Navy cannot really destroy them anyway, and the U.S. doesn't have the land forces to do a land invasion of even Yemen, for that matter.
So isn't this just, it points to the end of, you know, U.S. global hegemony, doesn't it?
Yeah, it has been, and that's why my book is called, my latest book is called The America's Final War.
The point is not just...
It all started with a launch of special military operation, which now, after 30 months, destroyed...
It's not about Russia fighting Ukraine.
Russia is fighting NATO there.
And pretty much the whole reputation of the NATO weaponry, American weaponry, and this mythology of some kind of the operational prowess have been blown up to smithereens there.
So in Saga, yes, people such like Saudi Arabia, they look at this and say, yeah, we don't need your, you know, Patriot Pack 3, which couldn't stop in 2019 to defend Aramco facilities.
All right.
Apologies to our audience.
We had a little glitch right there, but we're back.
Thank you, Andrei, for your patience.
Italian Prime Minister Maloney has suggested that it's time for Russia to surrender to the West.
And I think it was Poland's leader that also suggested during the Swiss Peace Conference that Russia should be broken up into 200 ethnic countries.
So I want to ask you, Andrei, in all seriousness...
What will be the terms of Russia's surrender?
And how quickly will Putin sign the surrender documents to Italy?
Well, yeah, it's primarily, Russians will die primarily from the Homeric laughter.
They can't really damage Russia, which happened before.
Remember that the Russians were taking chips out of the washing machines?
And of course, Christine Lambert saying that Putin will not be able to shop in Paris.
And there was, I mean, the wave of hilarious, you know, sarcastic articles about that.
So other than that, I don't know.
I mean, it's difficult to imagine, you know, but I'm sure the mighty power like Italy certainly has something on Russia which we don't know.
I mean, they probably take from the same stack as Zelensky does, you know, and he's high pretty much, well, pretty much constantly now.
So, I don't know.
It's difficult to comment on that.
I was imagining that Putin would respond to Maloney by saying, you and what army?
What is Italy's army compared to Russia's army?
Nothing.
Not even France's army.
Combined Europe is pathetic militarily.
It reminds me of some of which is not a legend that was recorded.
It was recorded and historical record exists when one of the envoys of Pope came to visit Stalin in 1943, I believe, in Moscow.
And Stalin, of course, graciously accepted them.
But they were talking about that, yeah, you know what, Pope obviously has a very huge influence in Catholic world and overall in Christianity and things like that, and we can do this and that and that, and Stalin, you know, smoking his pipe, says and asks them questions.
And how many divisions does Pope have?
That was it.
Okay.
So I want to talk about finance here, and In response to this theft of Russian assets, reported to be nearly $300 billion in assets, and of course the West describes it as immobilized assets.
Like, we didn't steal them, we immobilized them.
Okay, it's still theft.
But Putin responded, as I understand it, with the phrase, theft is theft.
At least that's the translation.
Can I ask you, as a personal favor, I would really like to know, how do I say that in Russian?
How do I say theft is theft in Russian? - - - - - I mean, not quite.
War is a thief.
War of stwa is theft.
War of stwa.
War of stwa.
Stwa.
Stwa.
Okay.
Well, I do speak Mandarin Chinese, so I do have some ability, but I do not speak any Russian, although I want to be able to cite this phrase, that theft is theft, because I think it's historic.
I really do.
All right.
I'm going to try that.
I'll improve that, but thank you for that.
That should be the name of a book.
That should be the name of a movie.
The West is committing financial suicide in terms of the global perception of the credibility of assets held in Western currencies.
This affects all of us.
I'm an American.
I want America to succeed.
I want our economy to succeed.
I want the American people to do well and to be prosperous.
But if they're committing economic suicide...
I mean, our leaders, by telling the world that you can't trust Western currencies, then we all suffer.
That's my point.
Does that make sense?
Yeah, it does.
It's absolutely true.
A lot of the financial interactions as existed prior have been on primarily trust.
You know, you trust in the system, you do your thing.
But yeah, the system is broken, actually, completely.
It's destroyed.
It is.
It is destroyed.
But this gets back to my original point, where I was pushing back on you a little bit, that as the financial system of the West is imploding, it leads to increased desperation, I believe, on the part of the leaders to try more and more crazy things.
For example, one of the theories currently being talked about by some of my other guests is that the West wants a war, a nuclear war, with Russia because...
It provides a cover story for the financial collapse that's about to happen anyway in terms of dollar debt.
I mean that's at least a theory that's being talked about.
Well, no, somebody definitely does want a war, because you have to understand, those people militarily are incompetent, utterly incompetent.
There is not a single person in the national security circles in Washington who really understands what is coming, you know, if they decide to do this.
So, they want a war in Europe.
They would love nuclear war in Europe, because...
I already stated they are one trick pony.
They have this...
Listen, we all remember...
Well, we know.
We didn't leave then.
But what was happening during the Great Depression in 1937-38 with another Great Recession, which exacerbated the whole situation.
And whatever the reasons have been, but the United States had the unemployment rate of more than 25%.
And then in two years, in two years with the start of the World War II, and essentially once the legislature for the land lease has been pushed by FDR through the U.S. Congress, wow, in literally three months, the United States had a full employment.
And they think that, oh yeah, we can repeat that.
The problem is, first, there is no FDR. There is no industry left in the United States which can do that.
That's right.
Yeah, and then they are complete idiots.
They don't understand that, you know what, if it, God forbid, comes to it, Russia will wipe Europe out of the map, and then, you know, United States might get some too.
So these people are insane.
They are not very smart.
That's clear.
I didn't see the smart American politician, let alone Western politician, in a while.
Some common sense people in Congress here and there, like Thomas Massey or Marjorie Taylor Greene and people like this, they are far in between.
Most of them are just morons, pretty much.
As I already stated, three skills.
Our audience agrees with you on that assessment.
That's absolutely true.
And also, they don't understand what nuclear war entails.
They don't understand radioactive isotopes or half-lives or fallout or cesium or anything like that.
They have literally zero knowledge on these subjects.
And yet, and this is important, They keep provoking Russia.
Now, so far, at least from my perception, Putin has exercised a tremendous amount of discipline and restraint.
At least that's my perception, okay?
But the West is continuing to say, well, we're going to send F-15s, F-16s, a nuclear missile-capable aircraft.
We're going to have them take off from Romania and then they're going to bomb Russia and come back to Romania and we're going to say we're not involved in the war and so on.
Provocation after provocation.
At some point, I mean, how does Russia endure this without a response of some kind?
I mean, do they just keep taking all this?
Oh yeah, steal all our assets.
You know, lie about us all over the world.
At some point, what does Russia do?
Oh, it's very simple.
To do what she's doing right now.
The fundamental political objective of this is demilitarization.
Now, it's not demilitarization of Ukraine.
Ukraine has been demilitarized thoroughly, and we are looking at losing actually one and a half generation, at least, of the population.
So, in terms of the overall population, I'm talking about, of course, people who are men primarily who can fight.
But when you look at the population at large, it's been reduced twice.
I mean, twofold.
Yes.
And so, in this case, well, only victors write the history and write the rules.
And right now, as I already stated, it is not about Ukraine.
It is about defeating NATO, which is happening as we speak.
And yes, the only thing NATO can do are some PR actions.
Yeah, F-16s make no difference whatsoever.
Yeah, they don't make any difference whatsoever.
Their task is just to, you know, fly in, maybe to use some jump airstrip.
Of course, there will be NATO pilots.
Well, ask today anybody in the U.S. Air Force, who wants to go against Russian pilots flying in?
I don't think so.
There will be many takers.
Those people who are not completely nuts and who didn't drink too much Kool-Aid on this stupid propaganda piece of what's called Top Gun Maverick.
So, yeah.
You know what it is.
They won't go there.
So you'll have some adventurers who think that they are cool, you know, so they will take off, they will be shut down.
If it comes down, they will be using their Ukrainian airstrips as jump airstrips while flying from Romania and Poland while Romania gets it there.
Yeah, but what are Western leaders going to say when NATO pilots get shot down by Russia and perhaps captured alive?
And what are they going to say?
That they're not military pilots?
That they're contractors who happen to have F-16s?
Yeah, absolutely.
They lie.
As I already stated, practically the only thing they do is lying.
They lie about everything.
They lie about their losses.
And, you know, it's like this famous, you know, Patriot Pack 3 shooting down six kinshal.
I know.
I mean, it's so reasonable.
But yeah, they believe that.
Some of them are stupid.
Again, do not forget, most Western politicians are lawyers and political scientists.
Got it.
And political science is not a legitimate science.
It's some, you know, random, you know, political history facts, and that's about it.
So when you have lawyers running your country, they know how to avoid, you know, making statements, and they know have this, you know, generalizations, platitudes language, but that's about it.
Okay.
So in this case, yeah, just recently, Russians captured, you know, yet another French POW, So, yeah.
What are they going to say?
Well, Macron goes hysterical.
Obviously, he has problems at home with his husband or whatever, wife, whatever the thing is.
And, yeah, you look at them, they react like children.
Throwing tantrums, they're making those claims.
At first, Macron stated that there will be 26 Mirage 2000, you know, dash 5.
Now it was reduced to 6, so probably by the end of the month, it will be reduced to 2, and maybe sometime in the future.
Well, I'm sure if an Italian pilot gets shot down, Maloney will say, well, we sent him in there to accept Putin's surrender.
That's why he's there.
Oh, I'm pretty sure that's what it is.
Yeah, okay.
Now, fast forward two years in your assessment, okay?
Mid-2026.
Is Odessa Russian territory or Ukraine territory?
I think so.
Russians will make their surrender, which will be dictated.
The conditions are already being dictated.
Essentially, they will break Ukraine into some kind of their entities, some of which will have autonomous powers, such as was the idea behind the initial Minsk agreements to give their wide autonomy, for example, to Donetsk and Lugansk republics.
So, in this case, it will be something even sharper, something even sharper, something even more pronounced, for example, that, okay, here's your Kiev, here's your Whatever regions you want to keep.
Odessa and what is called Malarossia, used to be called, and Nikolaev region.
Yeah, they become autonomous republics and eventually with such their kind of long-term ability to vote to join Russia.
So that probably will be the arrangement like this.
There's no necessity to go there and take either Kharkov or Odessa.
These are large, million-plus population cities.
Apart from the fact that Odessa's architecture is absolutely gorgeous.
And who needs to do that?
Why would you go and lose, let's say, 10,000 killed by taking these huge urban centers while destroying them pretty much?
So no necessity to do that.
Let the fruit to get ripe, and it will fall on its own.
So there you go.
That's a really important analysis.
Thank you for that.
That makes a lot of sense, because that was the process, actually, of Lugansk and Donetsk that the Russian Duma recognized in February of 2022.
I mean, they were already undergoing that process that you just described, so it seems like a natural process.
But, of course, attempting to interfere with this are the Western European countries now initiating military drafts.
Or at least in the process of that.
So we're seeing a lot of talk in the UK of mandatory military service for 18 to 26 year olds.
Similar talk by some lawmakers in Germany.
Of course, you know what Macron is talking about in France, although I think he's talking to himself most of the time.
But is there any legitimate ability of remaining Western NATO countries to conscript enough soldiers to send to the front lines to thwart Russia's current territorial gains?
No.
They don't have any sustainability, so to speak, in the modern economic structure in the combined West.
It's like, yeah, you can draft people, you have to feed them, you have to arm them, and yeah, if they want to thank those, you know, legions of the primarily light armor, you know, and firearms people, they will be slaughtered within like 48 hours.
So you need to arm the army, and you need to train it properly.
No European country has any capability to do that.
They can draft people, definitely.
And again, I don't know where they will put them, what kind of barracks, what they're going to be feeding them, what they're going to be dressing them with, and again, you know what, for example, Bundeswehr, it's a joke, okay?
It's a joke, military is a joke.
In terms of UK, they can draft whatever and whoever they want, I mean, their present armed forces, as Colonel Douglas MacGregor stated, Lilliputian, and they cannot even, you know, what provide for these guys.
Their whole armed forces can fit inside their Arsenal or Manchester United football stadium.
This is ridiculous.
This is ridiculous.
These people, yeah, Italians are about the same.
They can produce here and there something like, well, they have already been corrected by some French generals today.
Oh, you want to send 26 old Mirage 2000-5?
Well, then French Air Force will be on its knees.
We cannot produce enough Rafals, which is extremely expensive aircraft and very slow in production, and it is not as effective anyway.
It's a good aircraft, but nothing more than that.
And the same goes for the United States.
Okay, one more question about the situation there.
Then I want to ask you about submarine technology, U.S. versus Russia.
But Zelensky, as I understand it, is now pushing a requirement for...
We have military firearms training among high schoolers across Ukraine.
So I guess they're going to take 15, 16-year-old males, maybe the women too, who knows, teenagers.
They're taking women already.
There are many women who are recruited.
So I guess, you know, you go to high school in Ukraine and now suddenly, oh, what's our field trip today, teacher?
Your field trip is you're going to get killed by Russian artillery on the front line.
So load up on the bus.
We're going to send you.
I mean, it's point.
What is this?
It's like a self-genocide almost among Ukrainian leaders.
Yeah, it's an American plan, plan quote-unquote, because the United States doesn't do military strategy, they don't know how to do it.
When you look at the military record of the United States, it's pretty much one lost war after another, but they, for some reason, consider the same the finest fighting force in history.
As Mr.
Obama stated, well, you have to win wars in order to be the finest, you know, fighting force.
But the point is that at this stage, Washington doesn't care.
Keep in mind that for many people, not all, but for many people in the U.S. Congress or even in the U.S. military, Slavic people, like Russians or Ukrainians, are viewed as the untermensch.
You know, Untermenschen is racially inferior.
This idea is out there.
Remember James Klapper, who was talking about genetical inferiority of Russians, who constantly, you know, ready to, you know, do some nasty things because he said it was genetic.
And when you look at this, yeah, that's why the United States loses its wars, because it doesn't understand their enemy.
As per Ukraine, yeah, it's a whole other story of the 30 years of being brainwashed.
And with them, you know, paid for by CIA and other non-governmental organizations.
And while they wanted it, it is what it is.
You know, some people think that there is a lot of brotherly feelings between Russians and Ukrainians.
No!
Russians do not have very many brotherly feelings towards Ukrainians anymore.
It's like, you know what, if your relative becomes a homicidal maniac, We don't like this relative.
He jumps on you, you kill him.
And that's what Russia is doing.
And in this particular case, if Ukrainians want to take it, they don't.
We already know half of the country escaped already, and they shoot people at the border who try to actually cross the river Prud to escape in Moldavia, Moldova at least.
So they have the minefields now, not allowing them to escape.
It is a totalitarian state, and you look today at any Ukrainian city, the streets are empty, like really empty.
There's nobody on the streets.
Right, right.
Let's talk about naval forces, an area where you have a lot of expertise.
So let me set the table, please.
So the United States, of course, known for strong surface projection of power through the aircraft carrier fleet, but the Yemeni military demonstrating that that may be obsolete.
China with massive shipyards, massive output of surface vessels.
The last report I saw was that China has 200 times more dry dock shipyard capacity than the United States.
That's massive.
And Russia, not known for surface fleet projection, not aircraft carriers, but well known, as I understand it, for submarine technology and also, of course, submarine-launched nuclear missiles with very advanced technology.
Now, What's your assessment between these three major powers, the naval forces, strengths, weaknesses, numbers?
What matters in your mind?
Russia doesn't really depend on the shipping lengths of communication.
If there is a country which can be identified as the almost full autarky, It's Russia.
She has everything.
All necessary resources.
China obviously needs the Navy to break out of the first island chain because obviously the shipping lanes of communication which pass through the Indian Ocean will be immediately attacked by the US Navy.
So China needs some kind of naval counterpoint to this.
So, in this case, there are totally different requirements for China.
China lags dramatically behind American and Russian nuclear submarine technology.
They're trying to improve, but yes, the surface fleet today has to have immense anti-submarine warfare technologies and extremely advanced air defenses, apart from the strike capability.
So, well, just to give you an example, Russia doesn't need carriers, except for the maybe demonstration of flag and kind of, you know, representing the country.
So, Kuznetsov is coming out on their trials this year.
So, the only Russian aircraft carrier.
But Russian strike power is on the submarines and surface fleets, which carry such strike weapons as their caliber land attack missiles, especially 3M14M. Which is now 4,500 kilometers range.
There's nothing out there.
Tomahawk is not even the same name.
And, of course, the strike weapons, which has been confirmed over the weekend by Russian sources officially, that not only Garshkov-class frigates carry Zircones, now the nuclear-powered submarines of Yasin-class, which is Project 885, such as Kazan, which visited Havana, they carry Zircones.
I'm sorry to interrupt, but the Zircon hypersonic missile can carry many different payloads, warheads, right?
Yeah, absolutely, yeah.
Their condition for Russian ships to visit Havana was not to carry any kind of the nuclear, you know, Ammunition there, you know, warheads, so they carry it only conventional.
But in case of Zircon, you know what, Mach 10, 1500 kilometers, it's beyond even the reach of the front edge of the Hakai E-2, you know, long-range radar picket of the carrier battle groups.
So they will not see anything that is being launched on the surface, let alone when it's launched from the underwater.
And yeah, you cannot stop.
The only way that Zircon could be stopped is if Zircon itself breaks down somewhere, you know, for technical reasons.
Other than that, there is no air defense system, especially American air defense system, which didn't give itself a pretty good account as of lately.
So, yeah, you cannot intercept it.
And what do you want to do?
Well, die.
So even a single zircon definitely is more than enough to just basically obliterate something like that.
The early Burke class destroy and damage critically, for example, aircraft carrier.
To sink it, it probably will need a couple of Zircons or a couple of King Jones, you know.
Wow.
Okay.
Now, what about the Poseidon naval drone?
Of course, it's been written up in many media sources as being capable of a 100 megaton warhead.
You know, you've seen the stories about the radioactive tsunami that could be unleashed by the Poseidon.
What's your take on the Poseidon?
Well, Poseidon is actually much more useful.
Obviously, it's a cataclysmic picture, which they...
I don't think it's 100 megatons.
It's certainly megatons plus weapon, no doubt about it.
Probably even tens of megatons, something like, I don't know, 10, 15 megatons weapon, maybe.
I'm speculating.
But obviously, its range is absolutely unlimited.
And the scary part of it is because it uses an extremely advanced software.
I hate to use this stupid artificial intellect garbage, you know, because there's no artificial intellect.
But no, it uses a very advanced software and neural network and things of this nature.
And it's capable to actually lay in ambos.
You know, it could be activated.
We don't know.
Maybe it's already had been planted.
But the thing is obviously huge.
And even in conventional way, it carries several tons of the high explosives.
And let me tell you, when this thing explodes underneath the aircraft carrier, I can guarantee you it's going down and it's going down really fast.
So it's a horrifying weapon, and that's why I'm a very peaceful man.
I hate war.
I live on the west coast of the United States.
It will be absolutely unacceptable for me to die from the Russian guys blowing up my area of living.
So that's why I'm always for the world's peace.
Well, you and I both, Andre, and I do want to make that very clear to all those watching.
Even though I'm considered more conservative domestically in terms of economic policies, I'm a peace activist.
I'm not charging for war.
I don't want war.
I want to bring our troops home.
What I want, Andre, and I think more and more Americans are joining me in this, We just want to engage in trade with the countries of the world using an honest currency that no government can counterfeit.
And by the way, that's the BRICS currency, it turns out.
But we would like to trade with Russia.
We want to trade with China.
We want to trade with India, with Turkey, with the Saudis, whatever.
But the West doesn't want to compete.
What they want to do is they want to bludgeon and bully and coerce all the other nations of the world and then steal their resources and assassinate their leaders and bomb their countries.
And that's the reality of what the U.S. empire has become.
It's far from what it should be.
We could all have prosperity if we just agree to not kill each other and just trade with each other.
But this is not for this financial class.
And this is financial class.
It's not productive class.
It's their, actually, parasite.
As Michael Hudson, incomparable Michael Hudson, wrote a wonderful book on that called King and the Host.
And you look at these Wall Street types.
These are people, most of them are sociopaths.
So, and they only care about their bottom line.
So, and of course they are not competitive because you basically, they offer only bubbles which are, you know, done by the means of so-called capitalization or, you know, speculation on the market.
And I know this look at the real estate.
And this is how they grow, quote-unquote, the economy.
Those hedge funds, you know, making money out of the thin air.
Trading, well, that's the whole other story because it involves competition.
But just to give you one very sad and in the same time, you know, very, how to say it, very human thing between Russians and Americans.
NASA knows that Russians are done with United States in the space, well, until the ISS eventually will be, you know, well, it's an old station now, you know.
But what is really remarkable, NASA and Roscosmos, by understanding their parting way, they settled, they negotiated that each American spaceship and each Russian spaceship will have their same docking device in order to help each other if, God forbid, something happens in the orbit.
You know, this is like, yeah, man, that's how professionals should be doing this, you know.
Everybody understands that for political reasons they are, you know, just basically dragging, you know, space exploration in the United States away from Russia.
Wow.
I'm really glad that you mentioned that.
Now, I have a question for you.
You said earlier that you live on the west coast of the United States.
Are you doing anything for yourself, your family, your household to prepare for the possibility of nuclear war?
Well, we bought some, you know, wine or art and dangerous if somebody gets into.
But yeah, we bought those, you know, what's called 25 years lasting, you know, all those, what's called the food supplies.
Yeah.
Costco was selling them.
We went out and bought them, you know, a number of them.
Okay.
And, well, that's about it.
God forbid something happens, especially in Seattle area, boy, we're going to get it, man.
Big time.
Yeah, well, I think a lot of these chaos cities, you know, Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Chicago, and so on, are not going to fare very well in any kind of a destabilization scenario, nuclear war or otherwise, you know, financial crisis, power grid crisis, whatever.
That is why I live north of Seattle and do not go there.
I didn't go in Seattle, let's say, last time I was there, it was December of last year.
I see.
And it was like 20 minutes to pick up my friends and get out.
Yeah.
Well, I feel the same way about Austin, Texas.
I don't go into Austin anymore.
Used to all the time.
Not anymore.
It's just become too lawless and crazy.
And yeah, sure, I bring my firearms with me everywhere I go.
But I can't even trust the DA in Travis County.
The law, the prosecutions are completely out of whack now.
There's no rule of law.
You can be prosecuted for defending yourself.
And that actually happened in Austin.
And I think the governor of Texas had to pardon that man who shot in self-defense.
OK, but anyway, in terms of wrapping this up, so.
As I take it, what I think you're describing is that Russia is just going to continue methodically doing what it's doing.
No major changes.
It's going to continue this war of attrition and then at some point demand an unconditional surrender of Ukraine.
Is that sort of where this is headed?
Yeah, that's exactly where it is.
And Mr.
Putin spoke about this openly.
He put the conditions last week.
He said those five regions, non-negotiable, it is all to the administrative borders as they existed at the time of the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991.
They removed all troops.
Then, of course, Ukraine will be demilitarized.
It will have about 70,000 to 100,000 police officers.
Rightly armed, you know, police cars and things of this nature.
No real armed forces, no NATO. If they want to go to the EU, good luck.
And it's going to be reduced, which has already happened.
Ukraine doesn't have any more serious industry.
It's going to be reduced to the agricultural society, you know, so let them do it.
Who says no?
And no, Russians do not want to feed them.
That's the other thing, which many people don't understand.
Can Russia take Kiev?
Yes.
Why?
Right.
To get what?
Surrender from those remaining 19 million who hate Russian gods?
Most of them are.
Some people don't.
So why would you feed those people?
Why would you put them and bring them to the standard of living which exists in Russia today, which is extremely high?
It's higher than many developed countries in Western Europe.
It's definitely higher today than it is, for example, in Italy, and so on and so forth.
And many people do not understand what is happening in this respect, because obviously the majority of the political class in the West, they still think that it's Russia's 1990s.
And as a result, why do you need those 19 million people?
Actually, Russia, even today, struggles with the remnants of the Ukrainian psychology, Ukrainian idiosyncrasies, including bribery and utter corruption, even in Donetsk and Lugansk republics and in Zaporozhne.
Still kind of removing those people who, you know, are locals, you know?
So, evidently, because of that, very many localities there, they require actually Russian bureaucrats to go and serve there and clean things up.
You have FSB working and police working 24-7.
Even today, even today, it's 10 years after this all happened, you know?
So, but can you imagine when you get into, well, Ukrainian economy is utterly corrupt.
Or rather what's left away.
Well, yeah, I mean, the economy is basically subsidized by the West at this point.
I mean, all the pensions, the payroll, health care, all the employees.
I mean, I think maybe it was Medvedev who described Ukraine as a failed state.
That seems to be accurate at this point.
Yeah, it is a failed state.
Okay.
Well, Mr.
Martianov, we're out of time for today, but I really want to thank you for your analysis, and thank you for pointing out that you and I both are calling for peace.
We don't want war.
We don't want one side to win and the other side lose.
We want both sides to win, and that only happens through peace, by the way.
Let me give out your website again.
It's called Reminiscence of the Future.
This is your blog site, and it's at smoothiex12.com.
Maybe that was your secret call sign before Smoothie X12. No, no, there's nothing secret about it.
I'm kidding, I'm just joking.
It's such a fun name.
And then your book is called, your newest book is America's Final War, and that's coming out August 1st in paperback.
On booksellers everywhere, and it's available electronically right now, like the Kindle edition is available right now.
And then another one of your previous books is Disintegration.
I really encourage people to read your books because I think your analysis is spot on.
And if anything, your analysis, like some of the things that you mentioned in Disintegration, have already come true in spades, by the way.
So you nailed it.
All right, Andre, thank you so much for your time today, sir.
We appreciate you.
My pleasure.
All right, take care.
And thank all of you for watching.
I hope you learned something from this interview, and please join us in pressuring our representatives to stop this provocation against Russia, stop the war, call for peace, stop funding war all over the world, and maybe we all won't die in a nuclear war.
So if you want to live, then join us in calling for peace.
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