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May 30, 2024 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams

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	Welcome to Bright Tea on Broadcast News for Thursday, May 30th, 2024.
	I'm Mike Adams.
	Thank you for joining me today.
	I was a guest yesterday on the Alex Jones show.
	I was actually in studio joining Alex and then Owen Schroyer after that talking about our big lawsuit against big tech and big government.
	As you know, we're suing Google, Facebook, Twitter, Facebook.
	Some organizations engaged in censorship signals such as NewsGuard and ISD and other NGOs that are even overseas, some of them in the UK. We're also suing the Department of Defense Homeland Security.
	We've named Alejandro Mayorkas and 10 John Does.
	So we are suing the government for collusion in what we're calling the censorship industrial complex with the federal government.
	Launders its censorship demands through overseas NGOs that send censorship signals to big tech platforms that abide by those signals to de-platform people like myself and platforms like Variteon.
	And the federal government financially supports this entire censorship laundering scheme.
	So that lawsuit was filed on Monday, on Memorial Day.
	So I was on with Alex, and I'll play that interview for you, I think, tomorrow, by the way, if you missed it, if you want to catch it, you can also get it at band.video.
	Or, I think, well, infowars.com slash show.
	That's the current show.
	But I know they have it archived on band.video.
	We're going to be posting it on brighttown.com as well.
	It's definitely worth watching if you want to learn about how we are going to blow apart this whole censorship, the full story about this censorship industrial complex.
	And even Alex himself was just really blown away by this...
	What we found, the smoking gun evidence, and even how Alex is named in many of these government and NGO documents that are basically censorship targets.
	So I'll have that for you probably tomorrow.
	The actual featured interview for today is with Alan Campbell, who is with Food Forest Abundance, and they're a company in Florida that offers consulting for how you can create, design, and engineer your own food forest on your own property.
	But they've also put together now a permaculture summit We're going to be featuring on Brightian University, free of charge.
	So brightu.com, you can register there right now to watch the upcoming Spring Permaculture Summit.
	I know it's kind of late spring for those of you in the southern states, but it's still called Spring Permaculture Summit.
	And this is timeless information.
	You can use it year-round.
	And there's never been a better time to talk about growing food.
	And Alan Campbell, by the way, he grew up in Uruguay, or I think as they say, Uruguay.
	And he went to school in Austin, Texas as a mechanical engineer.
	So he's a really bright guy, very educated, math-minded individual.
	And then he got into the food forest concepts for food sustainability and building systems, designing food systems that are self-sustaining.
	So you're really going to love this summit that's coming up.
	Again, register for free to watch the whole thing for free at BrightU.com and we'll have more details for you coming up here as we run this interview today.
	We've got a lot of other stories to cover as well.
	Many things happening.
	Sometimes people will give me a comment like, why are you talking about the collapse of society?
	You know, society's so strong, so resilient, there's no way it could collapse.
	And then you read stories like this.
	Southwest Airlines, in the last 24 hours, had what they call a minor, or I'm sorry, brief power outage At one data center in Dallas, okay?
	A brief power outage.
	This caused 34% of all of Southwest Airlines' flights to be delayed.
	1,379 flights were delayed over a, quote, brief power outage.
	Now, first of all, if they have a data center that runs the entire airline...
	Don't you have batteries or something?
	I mean, is there a backup system?
	I mean, I don't know.
	How much revenue does Southwest Airlines have?
	I don't know.
	Let's say it's hundreds of millions of dollars a year, whatever.
	If you've got all that on the line, and it all rides on this one data center in Dallas, and you have zero redundancy, which apparently they have zero redundancy, and then apparently you don't even have a backup power system for it.
	That's crazy!
	Southwest Airlines has no backup power system.
	They had 1,379 flights delayed.
	Now you may recall that back in 2022, during the holiday season, they had to cancel 17,000 flights and they stranded over 2 million passengers because they had a glitch.
	They had a glitch!
	17,000 flights affected by that glitch.
	And now we fast forward over, well, nearly two years, and they still don't have a backup system in place.
	That's crazy!
	I don't even...
	It's like, how does the world even function when there are corporations like Southwest Airlines that have no backups?
	Have you noticed that, like, your bank doesn't work a lot of the time?
	Have you noticed that?
	There was a person telling me today...
	That they were with the bank, or actually they're still with the bank, but this bank did a software changeover to some kind of a new back-end software system, you know, where you log in and you can interact with your account and you can see your numbers on the screen.
	Look at all these numbers!
	That the new software system that the bank switched over to, they apparently dumped all the data, all the historical data, before this month.
	So anything before May of 2024 is gone.
	So seriously, if you've been a customer with that bank for 10 years, and who knows, maybe for tax purposes or something, you need to see your bank statements from, I don't know, last month, last year, five years ago, whatever.
	It's gone, man.
	It's gone.
	The bank just deleted it all.
	It's gone.
	Now you have less than 30 days of history data with that bank because they switched over the software system.
	And it's like, how on earth are you even in business?
	How do you function like this?
	But have you noticed this?
	Have you ever...
	Here's something to check out.
	Have you ever gone to a Home Depot or Lowe's store and have you ever talked to the store manager and And watch them check their computer system for any kind of, you know, inventory or anything.
	Now, I want to say the managers that I've interacted with at these stores have been very friendly, really great people, actually very helpful.
	I'm not criticizing them.
	But the software system that they're using, you know what it reminds me of?
	Do you remember the original IBM PCs?
	Or how about this?
	The Apple II Plus computers.
	I had an Apple II Plus in the 1970s.
	And I was very fortunate because my parents saw the future of computing and I was like the first kid that anybody knew ever had a computer.
	We weren't wealthy, don't get me wrong.
	You know, I was still wearing shoes with holes in them or whatever.
	So we're like, hand-me-down blue jeans.
	But I had a computer.
	And on that computer, you had this giant monitor.
	This monitor was like two feet deep.
	There was no such thing as a flat screen.
	This monitor was curved like the lunar surface.
	And it only displayed in one color, which was like glowing green, like alien-colored text, basically, right?
	And the Apple II Plus computer had less power than, you know, any mobile device today.
	Far less power.
	Not even close.
	And you did everything in DOS. Well, kind of like Apple DOS. Every program you ran was in DOS, and they had, you know, you even had little games that were like text-based games.
	You could play adventure where you're typing in, like, I'm going down the hallway to the right, what do I see?
	And they could be, you know, you see a red dragon, you know, and you're typing on the screen, right?
	That is what Home Depot's inventory system reminds me of.
	And Lowe's, also.
	When they're on those screens, I'm transported back to 1978.
	I'm like, yeah, I remember those screens.
	Yeah, I used to play on the Apple II computer.
	I used to play Adventure with a screen, just like your inventory system.
	How old is that inventory system?
	And they were asking me, oh, this thing, it was outdated in 2005, you know?
	It's like...
	Your inventory system was outdated in 2005.
	How does it even work?
	And, you know, if they're honest, it doesn't really work, you know?
	Tells us something's in stock, it's not in stock, and then tells us we're out of stock, and I go in the back, and there's a bunch of them back there in stock.
	It's like, what's on this computer has nothing to do with the reality of what's in stock.
	Like, so...
	So you don't really have an inventory computer system.
	You have an imaginary inventory computer system.
	Yeah, we have an imaginary inventory system.
	Okay, that's awesome.
	Because that's pretty much what the banks have is imaginary money systems.
	People log in and they can look at their imaginary money.
	Look at these numbers on the screen.
	It's all imaginary numbers.
	And the Federal Reserve prints imaginary dollars.
	And the Treasury sells imaginary debt.
	We're never going to pay this off, but if anybody's dumb enough to buy this, go ahead.
	We'll sell it to you.
	China's like, we're not buying anymore.
	We're just buying gold now.
	We're redeeming all this imaginary debt because they're smart.
	But other people are still like, yeah, let's buy some more imaginary debt.
	But my point in all of this is that everywhere you go across society, everything's breaking down because nothing new has been built that works for about a decade.
	You notice that?
	Not even the bridges, the roads, you know, I mean, with a few exceptions here and there, but by and large, across most of the government offices, the universities, the big corporations, they're all using technology that's a decade old.
	Sometimes I'm thinking, if I stare at this inventory screen long enough at Home Depot, maybe I could play Pong.
	Remember Pong?
	It's like, whoa, there's a little white ball bouncing across the screen left to right?
	Say it isn't so.
	This is amazing.
	You mean one player has a paddle on the left side, another player has a paddle on the right?
	Not really paddles, just lines.
	And you can move the lines up and down and try to bounce the ball to the other side.
	No way!
	Yes way!
	People put quarters in machines to play Pong at pizza parters.
	I know, because I'm one of those people who did that.
	Along with all the other video arcade games from the 1980s.
	But you get the point.
	We are living in the past, like the technological past.
	So to answer the question, people say, well, why do you think everything is going to break down?
	Because I'm looking around.
	It's not a theory.
	I'm seeing it.
	Barely anything works.
	Seriously, for my truck, I had a recall issue, and it took them six months to get the parts.
	Actually, I think it was seven months to get the parts for recall.
	This recall was so serious, it popped up on the screen.
	It said, like, this might be dangerous to drive.
	Something like that on the screen.
	I should have taken a picture.
	Too dangerous to drive!
	Get it in for the recall!
	And I took it in for the recall.
	They're like, oh, okay, you know, we'll get you some parts.
	Like, when?
	We have no idea.
	Turned out to be six or seven months.
	Crazy.
	Now, there is a way that I know we're living in the present, by the way, and that is because of stories like this from the National Pulse.
	McDonald's menu prices up 40% since 2019.
	40% at McDonald's, and they're showing a photo of a McDonald's menu from several years ago, let's say, probably the late 1970s or something.
	Big Macs, 65 cents.
	Do you remember Big Macs being 65 cents?
	Hamburger, 28 cents, man.
	28 cents?
	Cheeseburger was 33.
	You gotta pay a nickel.
	For the fake cheese.
	They had a large order of fries for $0.46.
	Now, what are the prices today?
	Well, a Big Mac meal is now reportedly $9.29.
	I'm not sure what's in the meal.
	Probably a drink and fries and the Big Mac.
	$9.29.
	Almost $10.
	A 10-piece McNuggets meal has seen a 28% price increase.
	And the medium french fries have surged by 44%.
	So, 44% for fries.
	I can't even remember the last time I had McDonald's fries because I'm not into buying like mushy grease sticks, by the way, overly salted mushy grease sticks.
	But apparently that's up 44%.
	Well, you know how these are going to get more affordable, right?
	You know, if a 10-piece McNuggets meal...
	It's too expensive.
	Have you tried the cricket nuggets?
	Huh?
	You know, the ones with the legs sticking out the side.
	Like, the cricket nuggets can almost walk themselves into your mouth.
	Those will be a lot more affordable.
	Maybe that's like $4 instead of $12 or something.
	But I can tell you this.
	The days of the 48-cent Filet-O-Fish sandwich, those days are long gone.
	You're never going to see a Filet-O-Fish sandwich for 48 cents.
	And even then, I always wondered, Filet-O-Is-This-Fish sandwich?
	We're not really sure.
	Enough on that.
	It's just that, man, people, McDonald's claims that 90% of America eats at McDonald's at least once a year.
	That's horrifying to me.
	You will never have a photo of me going through a McDonald's drive-thru.
	Except one time I did a couple years ago, I actually did go through McDonald's drive through picking up a bunch of coffees and teas for some visitors we had for some kind of a company party thing going on.
	And they wanted McDonald's coffee for some reason.
	So I did go to get some beverages for people, but that's it.
	Let's switch gears to something a little more shocking.
	How about this?
	China shows off robot dogs equipped with assault rifles.
	Okay, now this video is going to blow your mind.
	Now, you've seen a lot of technology in drones.
	Obviously, Russia is using military drones that are kamikaze drones with explosives to great effect.
	They're blowing up Western tanks with drones.
	But those are flying drones, which are actually kind of simpler to make compared to robot doggy drones on the ground.
	Flying drones typically have a flight time of something like 25 to maybe 45 minutes.
	That's about it.
	It takes a lot of power to keep a drone in the air, typically.
	Robot doggy drones on the ground...
	They can last two to four hours.
	And China has come up with these machine gun-carrying robot drones, doggy drones, on the ground that you control kind of like a regular flying drone.
	You know, you have your control system with your two joysticks, and you've got gun controls.
	So check out this video, and I'll narrate it for you.
	All right, so welcome to the doggy drone.
	What did he say?
	We found it.
	This is ongoing China-Cambodia Golden Dragon 2024 Joint Military Summit.
	Now, this is the doggy view, dog drone view, crouching down.
	It's got, I think this guy actually says it's got 30 kilograms of explosives or something.
	The text said 15 kilos, but he actually said 30 from what I can hear.
	Let's see.
	It's got batteries.
	It can operate two to four hours.
	Look, it's leaping.
	Leaping doggy drone.
	Yeah.
	Now here it is clearing a house.
	This reminds me of my dog a little bit.
	Oh, now here we go with the automatic rifles on it.
	What is that?
	That's a bullpup.
	Some kind of version of like an AK-47 bullpup rifle.
	That's interesting.
	So it's walking in with the rifle.
	And one of the soldiers is controlling the...
	There we go.
	Full auto.
	Wow!
	Look, it's handling the recoil quite nicely as well.
	Full auto firing solutions.
	Oh my gosh!
	Now, at the moment, these are controlled by humans, but before long, they'll be AI systems, and they'll choose their own targets, and they'll terminate them.
	Here's the drones.
	There we go.
	There's your bullpup AK flying drone.
	Yeah, that's coming soon to an invasion near you.
	And this is a cargo drone dropping off ammunition supplies for the Chinese.
	I mean, wow, okay.
	I got to tell you, there's a day coming in the not-too-distant future when every person who can afford a security doggy drone is going to have one.
	They're going to be expensive, so it won't be everybody, but corporations will use them.
	The military will use them, but also private individuals will have sentry dog drones and they will be programmed to walk perimeters with thermal cameras and to record everything and also sound the alarm if they see anything suspicious, like people.
	And they'll have AI software that can, of course, identify, oh, those are people or that's a car or that's a deer or whatever.
	And this is going to become commonplace.
	There are already consumer-grade drones that can do some of that.
	They take off, they fly around, they check the perimeter, and then they land and they recharge, and then they do it again every few hours.
	And that already exists.
	It's not affordable yet, but it's getting more affordable.
	Robot doggy drones are going to become a very common thing.
	And one reason that people accept the doggy drones is because they look more friendly as a dog.
	Because people kind of have a natural proclivity towards dogs.
	You know, most good humans like dogs.
	And so a doggy drone just immediately looks kind of innocent.
	Unless it's carrying an automatic bullpup Chinese rifle, in which case you may want to take cover.
	But this is what the future of warfare is going to look like.
	It's not even that far in the future.
	Russia has been using not doggy drones, but wheeled drones packed with explosives.
	And they drive them into an enemy position, like a dug-in machine gun nest, and they just drive up the doggy drone right next to it and hit detonate.
	Kaboom!
	Takes them out.
	Of course, that's a doggy suicide drone.
	It sacrifices the vehicle.
	But when you have a lot of manufacturing capability like China does, you know, who cares?
	Who cares?
	You're going to have underwater drones.
	Some of those already exist.
	You're going to have flying drones and you're going to have drones with legs, which is what this is.
	Either suicide versions or machine gun versions or laser versions or stun gun versions or whatever.
	Can you imagine getting tasered by a robot doggy drone?
	Like it walks up to you.
	Zzzz, zzzz, zzz, zzzz, zzzz.
	Human, you are under arrest.
	No, I'm not.
	You're a doggy drone.
	Tasered.
	Tasered by a doggy drone.
	Don't tase me, bro.
	It's going to have to be changed.
	Don't tase me, dog.
	That's coming.
	Last time I was flying a drone on my ranch, my goats were all freaking out.
	Goats don't like things that move quickly, even like pieces of clothing that flap in the wind.
	You know, goats and horses and all these kinds of animals, they completely flip out fast motion items.
	But it won't be long before we have doggy drones, and that'll be a whole new interesting thing.
	Thermal cameras are getting very inexpensive, and AI designation of potential identification of what's on the screen is also getting very good, even as the thermal cameras have increasing resolution.
	They used to have only like 256 vertical lines, and now it's more commonplace to have 512 or 640 or even 720.
	And you're going to see more and more of that.
	So anyway, you know what?
	I will cover this in more detail in terms of self-defense uses or home security, you know, property security, community security.
	You realize we have the technology right now in America as a government to easily patrol the entire southern border with drones.
	And to enforce, even without a wall, you don't really need a physical wall as much as you just need to patrol the whole thing with a bunch of drones and then have arrest teams that can come grab people when they're crossing the border.
	Yeah, a wall can help.
	I get that.
	But they can make holes in the wall.
	And sometimes the federal government makes holes in the wall.
	What you really need is like 24-7 drone patrol there.
	To identify who's coming across.
	I'm not saying armed drones or kamikaze drones.
	I'm just saying with cameras.
	Thermal cameras, you know, night vision cameras, daytime cameras, high resolution cameras.
	Taking pictures of people, identifying people, sending GPS coordinates to the arrest teams.
	Go grab those people.
	They're illegals.
	They're human traffickers, whatever they're doing.
	That kid's not even theirs.
	You know, that kind of thing.
	We should be doing that right now.
	But is the world getting you down?
	Do you feel like you, this is like I'm mocking a pharmaceutical ad, do you feel like you'd rather just end it all?
	Would you like medical assistance to depart this hellhole and enjoy a peaceful forever land existence?
	Well, welcome to the Netherlands, where you can now receive euthanization just from having anxiety.
	So yeah, here's the story.
	A 29-year-old Dutch woman died...
	Of euthanasia, after deciding that she no longer wanted to live with anxiety and depression, so she was seeking state-sponsored suicide.
	This is from Human Events.
	She passed away on May 22nd with the help of the Euthanasia Expertise Center, just 20 days after her birthday.
	So did you know there's a whole expertise area in euthanasia?
	Because apparently...
	This is a complex thing.
	I never knew that dying could be so difficult.
	But this woman apparently struggled with mental health for over a decade and personality disorder, whatever.
	She decided she no longer wanted to live.
	She wanted to die via lethal injection.
	And she said, quote, I have a house, two cheerful cats, and a partner who loves me dearly, and I love him.
	I've got everything, but that all is not enough to live for.
	So she had herself killed.
	So I'm thinking, probably like you, what about the cats?
	Is this one of those few cases where the cats turn to each other like, well, I guess we had to put the human down.
	You know?
	Is that what the cats are saying?
	And the other cat's like, finally, we drove her to suicide, you know?
	By jumping all over her, knocking stuff off the kitchen cabinets or whatever cats do.
	She had a partner who loved her dearly, she said.
	What about her partner?
	She just offs herself or has the state off her?
	And then, what is her partner?
	What's he left with?
	Like, um...
	You know, he's talking to his counselor.
	What went wrong in your relationship?
	Well, it got bad when she killed herself, okay?
	Let's start there, and we'll explore the issues.
	You know, honestly, I thought we were good.
	And then, you know, I get the email, I get the text.
	Yeah, she's moved on.
	Did she move on to another man?
	No.
	She moved on to another plane of existence, pretty sure.
	Oh my.
	In 2022, the government of the Netherlands euthanized 8,000 people.
	8,000 people.
	Well, there's one way to achieve global depopulation.
	Tell everybody they're depressed, then offer suicide services.
	Are you feeling a little bit anxious?
	You know, it used to be the ads on TV like, you have a brain chemistry disorder.
	You need Zoloft.
	Now it's like, there's something wrong with you.
	Why don't you just die?
	Welcome to the Government Euthanasia Expertise Center.
	We're experts in killing humans.
	Well, of course you are.
	You work for the government.
	I mean, what else would we expect?
	Here's the kicker in this story.
	Apparently this woman was on a waiting list for state-sponsored suicide, and the waiting list was three years long.
	Is there a waiting list?
	Like if people lined up?
	Please kill me!
	I gotta wait three years?
	It's like, you know, dialing in.
	Suicide hotline, please hold.
	You know.
	You've got to wait three years for suicide in the Netherlands?
	You know, I'm not trying to mock anybody.
	I'm sorry that people are suffering from depression.
	A lot of that, by the way, is nutritional deficiencies, such as vitamin D deficiency.
	By the way, there's a lot of nutritional approaches that can improve the depression situation.
	So I'm not trying to mock anybody, but if you really want to kill yourself, you don't have to wait three years.
	I'm just saying...
	There's all kinds of other ways it can happen today.
	If you're really committed to that, I'm not encouraging anybody to do that.
	I'm trying to not mock this person, but also there's a little bit of satire tone in my voice here.
	I'm like, you know, we've seen Wall Street brokers jump off tall buildings.
	They figured it out.
	They didn't have to wait three years.
	Those Wall Street guys are like, I lost $5 billion of somebody else's money.
	Well, I don't need the state to kill me.
	I can just go up to the top floor and fling myself off this high-rise, you know?
	And they do.
	You gotta admire the dedication.
	I just do want to put out a little public service message for people who, if they want to kill themselves, please be respectful of the living when you're doing that.
	Like, don't throw yourself in front of a city bus.
	The bus driver will probably have to slam on the brakes, and that could injure somebody on the bus that doesn't want to be part of your suicide mission.
	You see what I'm saying?
	Kind of the same thing with vaccines.
	If you want to go get vaccinated and commit suicide with spike protein shedding, don't shed on all the other people around you.
	They don't want to participate in your injection suicide, okay?
	If you're going to get vaccinated, isolate yourself.
	I mean, there is a case for isolation.
	It's the ones who got injected with the bioweapons.
	Those are the ones who should be in quarantine.
	Seriously.
	And if you're going to fling yourself off a tall building, just check out the scene below first.
	Like, try not to fall on people or cars.
	Try not to damage property or other people's lives, you know?
	Like, pick a building...
	Go to the other side where, when you're jumping off of it, below you is only the dumpster.
	It's like the trash alley side of the building.
	Just throw yourself off that side.
	It's the same height.
	It doesn't matter which side you choose, if that's your goal.
	Or you could go to the Netherlands and wait three years for the government to kill you.
	Okay.
	And can I also say something here, please?
	Just a notification to the world.
	You know...
	A lot of people complain of depression or anxiety, feeling bad.
	I had a negative emotion.
	Should I kill myself?
	No.
	You know what?
	It's normal to have some bad days.
	It's normal to feel sadness sometimes when crazy things are happening.
	It's normal to feel anxious about the craziness in the world.
	I'm not saying you have to saturate your existence with it.
	Find ways to find balance.
	Go take a walk in nature.
	Plant some trees.
	Grow some flowers.
	Get a dog.
	Not like a gun-wielding robot dog, but a regular dog.
	You know, find ways to be more human.
	Find ways to be in touch with nature.
	Put your hands in the dirt.
	Grow some tomatoes or something.
	Seriously.
	It's normal to be sad sometimes.
	It doesn't mean there's anything wrong with you.
	This is part of the message of our pharmaceutical industry.
	All these TV commercials blasting all this nonsense into people's brains.
	Like, if you ever felt sadness, you have a brain chemistry disorder.
	No, you don't.
	That's a lie to sell antidepressant drugs, which cause diabetes, by the way.
	And sometimes suicidal behavior or suicidal ideation.
	That's when people think about suicide a lot.
	It's one of the main side effects of antidepressant drugs.
	So you're like, oh, I'm depressed.
	Doctor's like, no problem.
	Here, take these drugs.
	You take the drugs.
	Now I feel like I want to kill myself.
	Oh, don't worry.
	We can put you on the waiting list for that.
	Make sure you're an organ donor, too, by the way, because we're going to need your organs.
	That's why they want you to do the euthanasia that they control, because if you jump off a building, they can't harvest the organs.
	They're pretty much gone.
	But if they can euthanize you in a hospital setting, they just take the organs right away.
	Get the fresh organs from you.
	You see how that works?
	It's all the same medical homicide complex.
	Killing people, drugging people, taking organs from people, transplanting to other people, billing the government for all those procedures while achieving depopulation at the same time.
	Wow!
	We got it all decoded here.
	We got it figured out.
	Well, at least this woman didn't die from the vaccine.
	That's something in her favor right there.
	You got to hand it to her.
	At least she died under her own control.
	So, you know, you got to respect that.
	And since I believe in personal liberty, I do believe in people's right to end their own lives if they want to.
	If they want to, they shouldn't be, you know, encouraged to do it.
	But if that's their choice, you know, That's their choice.
	But think how shocking this is.
	People walk into pharmacies every single day and get injected with death shots.
	And why don't we call that euthanasia?
	Because that's euthanasia.
	It's just a little slower acting for a lot of people.
	Sometimes it takes two days, three days, 30 days.
	Yeah, same result.
	They still die.
	But that's not called euthanasia.
	I guess, by the way, the waiting list is too long.
	You could just go get a bunch of vaccines, you know?
	It's like, why are you getting so many vaccines?
	Just trying to die as quickly as possible, you know?
	I know this is a morbid subject, isn't it?
	I'm sorry to even bring it up, but this is what's happening in our world.
	Government assisted suicide.
	What do you think about that topic, huh?
	I'm skeptical of it because the government will always want to kind of expand it.
	You know, today it's people with depression.
	I mean, it started out, you know, people in chronic pain, you know, people who suffered horrible injuries or whatever, which is a lot more understandable, but now it's like people with anxiety.
	Oh, I felt nervous today.
	Oh, do you want to die?
	Okay, you know, something's wrong with that picture.
	What's it going to be a couple years from now?
	What kind of condition is going to justify euthanasia?
	Oh, I felt nervous today.
	I was feeling nervous.
	What were you doing?
	I was doing some public speaking.
	Oh, you know it's normal to feel nervous when you're in public speaking, right?
	No, I just want to die.
	It's like, okay, we'll call the team.
	The government's here.
	They start excusing it for everything.
	And also, excusing more different forms of abortion, like post-birth abortion.
	You know, parents are like, our baby's ugly.
	Don't worry, there's a government team for that.
	It's from the Netherlands.
	Sadly, there's a three-year waiting list.
	But looking at your baby right now, it's probably going to get way more ugly over the next three years, so we should sign up today for sure.
	Ugly baby syndrome, you know?
	Woo, look at that, baby.
	We've got to get more government funding for the euthanasia division.
	I'll put in a request.
	Alright, switching gears here.
	Big news from Google whistleblower Zach Voorhees.
	This is awesome.
	He tweeted this out.
	I'm happy to announce that the testimony provided by myself and Hartwig Free and Dr.
	Epstein and Heritage and Schneider DC and others has resulted in a unanimous authorization of subpoenas to investigate Google and Facebook for election manipulation ahead of the 2024 And so Senator Brian Hughes has tweeted out,
	Texas will not stand for that.
	Yes!
	Yes!
	Because we're suing Google and Facebook as well.
	But this is great news.
	So just want to give a big shout out to Zach Voorhees today.
	Really great news here.
	So you know, of course, Google rigs every election at this point.
	Big tech rigs every election.
	Censorship is a form of election interference.
	Right.
	And, of course, this is what big tech does.
	They censor, they interfere, they rig, they cheat.
	You know, this is what big tech does.
	So it's about time to expose it and stop it.
	So here's a video from Zach Voorhees explaining what just happened.
	I just want you guys to know that it's been five years of fighting and I've got nothing but media to show for it until today.
	The Senate, the Texas Senate, has finally taken legal action and authorized subpoenas and I'm so happy.
	It's been five years and now this has come out of nowhere and I just hope and pray that other state senates will take up the call and investigate these big tech companies.
	You deserve a democracy and a representation and your vote And these people are trying to subvert it.
	And I couldn't live with myself knowing that this was happening.
	Thank you for everyone who's believed in me through the years.
	I feel like we're on the verge of something absolutely huge.
	And from the bottom of my heart, thank you.
	Thank you so much.
	All right.
	There was Zach Voorhees, definitely a hero for humanity, in tears.
	Tears of celebration, of joy.
	For just the fact that the Texas Senate is going to be investigating big tech for election interference.
	Who knows?
	Maybe I'll have a video in tears one day if we achieve victory in the Supreme Court against censorship.
	I don't know.
	I'm not afraid to cry if we have a victory like that.
	I feel like crying half the time over all the censorship.
	Maybe I should call the Netherlands and see if they have...
	No, I'm not suicidal, by the way.
	I'm not depressed.
	I'm not even anxious.
	Mostly I'm laughing my ass off at the insanity of the world around me and how crazy it is that people think this is all normal.
	Like, I'm entertained, basically.
	I'm entertained constantly, which is why I do this podcast and why I can't stop mocking everybody.
	And I'm still laughing over Ukrainian President Zelensky announcing the World Piss Summit, you know?
	It's like, oh my god, do you hear yourself?
	That is so funny.
	The world leaders must bring the piss, you know?
	I wish all the world leaders would pronounce peace as piss.
	It would just make so much more sense.
	But anyway, I'm entertained.
	That doesn't mean we don't have moments of tearful joy or relief.
	So, Zach Voorhees, we're right there with you, brother.
	You're doing great work.
	Keep kicking ass.
	And you know what we've got to do?
	We've got to support these Texas lawmakers.
	So, Senator Brian Hughes, the state senate of Texas, And whoever else is with him.
	We should find out who else is with him on this.
	And yeah, maybe we'll do some digging on that and find out who is with him.
	But this is a huge deal.
	Okay, here's a different kind of story.
	This one from RT. Israeli embassy in Mexico set on fire.
	That's something you don't see every day, but probably you'll see this more and more.
	So the protesters in Mexico, the pro-Palestinian demonstrators, let's say, have set fire to a wall of an Israeli embassy in Mexico City after clashing with riot police.
	So, well, it's called the Urgent Action for Rafa demonstration.
	And, of course, Israel has bombed Rafa again.
	They killed at least 45 Palestinians on Sunday, including, as we covered yesterday, women and children and elderly.
	Just a horrific bombing that even Netanyahu said was a tragic mistake.
	And then they bombed them again, just in the last 15 hours or so.
	How many mistakes does it take to make genocide?
	Three?
	Because Israel's made like a thousand of them, so...
	They keep bombing civilians.
	Oh, it's a mistake.
	Bomb another group of civilians.
	Whoops!
	Bomb another group.
	Bomb the food aid workers with rockets right through the front windshield of their cars.
	Oh, it's an accident!
	Are you kidding me?
	You're committing genocide!
	Oh no, it's a self-defense!
	Sorry, I'm using the wrong accent there.
	I don't know how to have a Zionist accent.
	I've never worked on that one.
	I'm not even sure what that sounds like.
	But anyway...
	And this is horrific.
	So, Mexico has filed a declaration of intervention with the International Court of Justice.
	This is huge.
	In support of South Africa's complaint against Israel, accusing Israel of genocide against the Palestinians in Gaza.
	And the ICJ ordered last week, ordered the Jewish state to, quote, immediately halt its military offensive, And any other action in the Rafa governorate, that's an odd term, which may inflict on the Palestinian group in Gaza conditions of life that could bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part.
	And then Netanyahu in his response said, yeah, that's the point.
	Probably.
	I'm just guessing.
	That's probably what he thought or said.
	Of course they're trying to kill them all.
	I mean, they're Zionists.
	What did you think they were going to do?
	Treat people with humanity?
	Can't even imagine that.
	Can you imagine if Palestinians did to Israeli embassies what Israel is doing to Rafa?
	How about that?
	What if...
	I'm just wondering.
	I'm not advocating this, but I'm just asking the question, the ironic question.
	What if Palestinians all over the world just saying, what if they bombed All the Israeli embassies and just said, well, self-defense.
	Don't we have the right to self-defense?
	Because that's what Israel does.
	They bomb whoever they want to bomb and they just say it's self-defense.
	If Palestinians bombed Israeli embassies, and again, for the record, I'm not calling for this or advocating it.
	This is a thought experiment.
	If they bombed Israeli embassies with the same level of bombs that Israel uses to bomb Gazans, do you realize that every Israeli embassy would be flattened?
	I wonder if Nikki Haley would be happy to write on those bombs a message like, finish them!
	Because that's what she did write on.
	I think it was either artillery rounds or bombs.
	I'm not sure what she's writing on.
	But there was a photo of her writing on there, finish them!
	Because she's all in favor of Zionism and killing every last woman and child in Gaza.
	So I wonder what the Zionists would say if that were just flipped around on them and their people started dying in huge numbers.
	Oh, you wouldn't hear the end of that.
	Oh, that would for sure be genocide, you know, according to the media.
	But somehow when it's Palestinians being bombed to death, then they say, it's not genocide.
	What are you talking about?
	It's not genocide.
	It's a lovey-dovey.
	Speaking of bombing campaigns, by the way, different story, but same subject.
	According to the Washington Post and a recent report, Trump told his donors that he would have bombed Moscow when they attacked Ukraine and that he would bomb Beijing if China attacks Taiwan.
	Now, we don't have an actual recording of this.
	This might be Washington Post CIA propaganda nonsense, so I do want to put that asterisk in front of this.
	But the Washington Post says that these comments from Trump, again, I don't even know if this really happened, but they're claiming that Trump said this and that it surprised his donors.
	Well...
	Okay, but given that the Washington Post makes up so much fiction, we can't really give this a lot of credibility.
	So until I hear Trump say it, I'm not going to believe the Washington Post.
	How about that?
	In fact, the Trump campaign said that the Washington Post report is, quote, fake news.
	Probably right.
	Probably right.
	I think Trump would actually negotiate with Russia.
	That's what I think would happen.
	And I think Trump would negotiate with China.
	It doesn't mean that he wouldn't use economic sanctions or tariffs or monetary policy fighting and things like that.
	I don't think Trump would bomb Russia or bomb China because that's a suicide mission.
	You know, Russia's got more nukes than anybody else in the world, and China has plenty of nukes, more than enough to wipe out the United States of America.
	And Trump is actually able to negotiate.
	And do you realize that if we changed who's in the White House, you know, got the Biden zombie out of there, weakened at Bernie's Biden, and if we got Trump back in there, then...
	I'm willing to bet that Putin would be happy to sit down and talk with Trump about how we end this war.
	How do we end it?
	I think Trump would actually end the war.
	I think he would be instrumental in ending the war, and I think that Putin would be open to a conversation.
	I would imagine that Russia would demand Odessa and all the territory they currently occupy, which is much of eastern Ukraine, certainly the entire Donbass region.
	So I think Ukraine would lose its southern coastline there on the Black Sea, and it would lose all the Donbass regions.
	But I think that Trump and the White House could stop this war.
	And I also think that Trump could find a way to avoid all-out war with China as well.
	I'm not saying that Trump is an anti-war president, because he's not, but he's a businessman.
	And as a businessman, he really wants America to get back to business.
	And how do you get back to business with your trading partners?
	You do business with them instead of bombing them.
	And Trump understands that.
	There's no question Trump understands that.
	Trump wants to do deals with China.
	He's always talking about deals.
	We've got to do deals.
	Let's do some deals with China, deals with Russia.
	What kind of deals?
	Energy deals, mineral deals.
	Electronics deals, import deals, export deals.
	I'm happy with that.
	Nobody's dying in the deals.
	I'm totally happy with that.
	Trump can do deals all day long with all these countries, as long as we're not bombing and killing and everybody's suffering and cities are being destroyed.
	Sounds like a much better solution to me than where we are now.
	So, that's my take.
	We'll see what happens.
	Yeah, with that said, I do want to announce a special event at Brighton University.
	We're going to feature former President Zelensky with the World Piss Summit on Brighton.
	No, I'm kidding.
	I just, I'm sorry, I can't stop mocking his pronouns.
	Especially when he said, the world leaders have to bring the piss to the piss summit.
	And I'm thinking a piss summit, you know?
	There is something like urine therapy, right?
	Or urotherapy, as it's called.
	I mean, there are a lot of people who use urine as medicine, either topically or otherwise.
	They ingest it, and there's a whole...
	I've had a whole conversation on camera with people about some of that and the stem cells that are in urine.
	Maybe Zelensky is talking about a global urine therapy summit.
	And he just used crude terms.
	It's the World Epistle Summit.
	You know?
	Seriously.
	Maybe this is how...
	Maybe he's going to heal the world.
	With urine.
	I don't know.
	I can't make this stuff up.
	Oh, but here it is.
	I was just searching for this.
	Dr.
	Group has a website on this called UrotherapyResearch.com.
	And actually there is a bunch of downloadable books.
	And research and a database of articles.
	And this is from Dr.
	Edward Group, UrotherapyResearch.com.
	Hey, don't mock it until you check out the research on it because it's really fascinating.
	And you probably have no idea how many of our modern pharmaceuticals actually are derived from urine.
	Seriously.
	I had no idea.
	But it's true.
	People use urine therapy to cure eczema, skin conditions, and a lot more.
	So anyway, maybe, maybe Zelensky is turning into a natural remedies practitioner with the World Business Summit.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm not mocking urotherapy here, folks.
	I'm mocking Zelensky's pronunciation, and I'm actually mentioning...
	Urotherapy here as something that's worth, you know, looking at.
	And I'm on his website here, urotherapyresearch.com, and I'm seeing he's going to do a webinar with David Wolf on this, too.
	So I didn't even know about that.
	I have to reach out to David and see when this is going on.
	But anyway, maybe there should be a World Piss Summit, you know?
	We'll be much better than bombing each other to death, which is what the military-industrial complex is doing right now all over the world.
	How about instead of the World Death Summit, which is what...
	The West is pushing, or at least the leaders of the West.
	What if we had a World Healing Summit?
	World Natural Health Summit?
	Somebody told me earlier today, he's like, hey Mike, you should put on a live event.
	You should do a big live event and have all the best speakers.
	Yeah, I don't have enough to do right now.
	There's no way that I want to put on a live event.
	I might put on a virtual event.
	That would be fun.
	Like a pre-recorded summit.
	Do our own summit with all kinds of healing information.
	I'm not doing a live event.
	In case you're wondering, that's never going to happen.
	Too much stress for that.
	You know, these days you feel stressful.
	You get a call from the government in the Netherlands and they put you on a waiting list for euthanasia.
	You never know what could happen.
	I don't need the stress.
	Just as a final comment, I mean, who waits three years on a suicide list?
	Seriously.
	You would think that in those three years, maybe you could work some things out.
	Does that sound cruel for me to say that?
	I'm not trying to be insensitive.
	I'm just saying, if you know you got three years to figure out your problems, you're suffering from depression and anxiety, you're on the kill list, you know, in 2027 or whatever, you got the kill date.
	The government's giving you the kill date.
	They're going to come kill you on that date.
	Wouldn't that be a little bit motivating?
	Like, if you know the day you're going to die, wouldn't that...
	Couldn't that change your life?
	Just that?
	Saying, well, guess what?
	You know, I've got only about a thousand days left to live.
	What am I going to do with these thousand days?
	You might actually find joy.
	And then you're like, well, anxiety cured.
	Don't need to die anymore.
	Can you cancel that euthanasia date?
	There's a question.
	Once you're on the list to be killed by your own government...
	Is there a cancellation fee?
	That's my question.
	Like airline tickets?
	Oh, you want to cancel the flight?
	Well, you've got to pay us $200 cancellation fee.
	What about the euthanasia cancellation fee?
	It's like, well...
	We were planning on killing you.
	We set aside our time, our expertise, and the death drugs, and then you canceled.
	There's a cancellation fee.
	You know there's a 24-hour notice policy, like there is with your doctor or whatever.
	You can't just not show up for the death.
	That's irresponsible.
	And if you don't pay the cancellation fee, do they report you to the debt collectors?
	Debt collectors contact you.
	Then you get all depressed.
	You're like, now I do want to die again.
	It's like, oh man, it's a vicious cycle, isn't it?
	Like I said, maybe just don't sign up for the government-assisted euthanasia death calendar date, date with death.
	But again, if you did know the date, wouldn't you do something with the days you have remaining?
	And I guess that's a message that we should all remember, because we all do have an unknown date with death, in a sense.
	We don't know how many days we have remaining, do we?
	None of us do.
	So, why not use the days we have?
	However many that is.
	Use the days we have to provide meaning and to do something that counts.
	For humanity.
	To express your humanity and contribute to a brighter future for those who will still be here when we leave.
	Huh?
	Doesn't that give you purpose in life and doesn't that purpose make you feel better?
	Doesn't that purpose actually combat depression and anxiety?
	It's like, eh.
	At first, I wanted to die three years from now, and then I realized that dying gave me purpose.
	And in the purpose, it ended the Depression.
	Now, I want to live.
	Hey, what do you know?
	Congratulations.
	Yeah, maybe the government could offer services for living people.
	No, that would be too much to ask.
	The dying part is what they're really good at.
	The living part, ah, you're on your own.
	Especially if you want to live as a free person.
	If you want to die, we're the government.
	We're here to help.
	You want to live as a free human being?
	No, no, no.
	We can't allow that.
	No freedom of speech for you.
	You don't get to keep the product of your labor.
	We're going to loot your bank account with our automatic tax deductions.
	We're going to destroy the value of your currency.
	We're going to invade your country with illegals and have crime everywhere.
	We're going to destroy your cities, destroy your culture, and we're going to spread LGBT rainbow flag graffiti all over your streets just to drive you a little bit more crazy.
	Do you want to kill yourself yet?
	Don't worry, we have other packages for you.
	We have the genitalia mutilation government-assisted package.
	Don't worry, it's only a five-hour procedure.
	With the doctors, followed by a 180-day recovery to heal the gaping hole in your pelvis.
	After that, you may want to book an appointment for the assisted suicide, but that's up to you.
	Try the transition, the middle ground to suicide.
	Try the transgenderism approach.
	And if you don't want to kill yourself after you have a bonus hole installed in your body, then...
	Well, we could talk about it at the time.
	There may be another program for you, probably involving like a suicide mission to send you to the front lines of Ukraine to die in the war with Russia.
	You know, there's always that opportunity if you're an EU citizen.
	The draft is coming after all.
	But if any of you want to live as free humans, sorry, we're the government, we can't help you.
	And we've censored anybody who can, so there we go.
	That's about the reality, isn't it?
	Isn't that sick and twisted?
	I mean, it feels weird even sort of performing that satire monologue there as a death wish anti-human government...
	Mass murderer, homicidal, psychopathic government leader, whatever.
	But that's what's in our world today.
	So bottom line here, folks, I know we've covered a lot of dark topics today, and I don't want you to dwell on the dark topics.
	We're covering what's happening in the world, but you don't have to allow this to in any way overtake your moment-to-moment consciousness and You can actually, you can fulfill your purpose here, being human, calling for love and peace, exercising dignity and humanitarian civility with other people with whom you interact.
	You can grow plants.
	You can enjoy food forests.
	You know, we're going to have this interview with the food forest expert here.
	You can find joy in life even though our world is all twisted and perverted.
	You can still find joy in life.
	You can still be a successful human being.
	You probably are already if you're listening to this.
	And maybe you use the same strategy that I use.
	How do I deal with the insanity of the world?
	I laugh at it.
	I mock it.
	And that allows me to process it without having it overtake my neurology or my moods or my psyche or anything like that.
	I don't let it overtake.
	And then I spend time in nature every single day, and I spend time with animals, and I practice compassion.
	Compassion with animals, compassion with plants, even with trees.
	Yes, you can practice compassion with trees.
	Growing plants is a very healthy thing to do, by the way.
	Being in touch with nature is very rewarding, and it's an important part of being human.
	And also, of course, social interaction with other people who are also awake, who realize what's going on in the world, and who want to work towards solutions together.
	What are those solutions?
	It's the things that we talk about every day.
	Grow your own food.
	Learn about natural medicine.
	Don't commit vaccine suicide.
	You know, there's a bunch of do's and a bunch of don'ts.
	And this is what we talk about every day.
	It's actually, it's pretty easy to be human.
	All you got to do is recognize it and make those pro-human choices.
	It's also easy in our society to be anti-human, all kinds of seductive choices in that direction, like here, you know, merge with these machines, embed this microchip in your skull, you know, all this stuff.
	Here, take the mark of the beast on your palm.
	Microchip, check out at Whole Foods, whatever.
	It's easy to be anti-human.
	But it's also easy to be fully human.
	So it's just a choice.
	It's a choice that each one of us makes every single day.
	What do you want to be today?
	You want to contribute to humanity?
	You want to contribute to your joy?
	You want to grow more food?
	Because that's joyful?
	You want to be healthier?
	Or...
	Do you want to sign up for the three-year wait list of the suicide, euthanasia, government kill campaign that's being offered in the Netherlands?
	I mean, that's your choice.
	You can either live as a human or die as a victim of the anti-human agenda.
	That's your choice, essentially.
	And you make that choice every day with every action that you choose.
	Every pivot point in your life hinges, essentially, upon that choice.
	And I say, choose to be fully human, choose to express your humanity, and be the example, as Gandhi said.
	Be the change you want to see in the world.
	It's not just a cliche.
	Be the example that you would like to encounter in other people.
	Treat people the way you would want them to treat you.
	And live a life of purpose, through conscious choices, That are pro-life, pro-consciousness, pro-compassion.
	And then together, we can actually make this world a better place.
	I think we are doing that, actually, each and every day.
	In all seriousness, I know I joke around a lot in this, and sometimes my humor can be pretty dark or twisted.
	But again, it's a coping mechanism.
	At the end of the day, I want us all to experience and express our humanity.
	And we can do that together, and I believe we are doing it, and we are changing the world every single day.
	So thank you for supporting us as we change the world together.
	Remember the slogan that we have, even for our online store, HealthRangerStore.com, Healing the World Through Clean Food.
	That's a slogan we've had for many years, and it's consistent with what I'm talking about here.
	We heal the world.
	We spread healing through Across the entire world.
	Through our ultra-clean products, high-nutrition products.
	So, if you choose to support us, please do so.
	HealthRangeRestore.com And I think you'll really enjoy the product line that we have there.
	And thank you for all of you who have chosen to support us over the last week or so.
	It's been a real outpouring of support, and we greatly appreciate that.
	It's going to give us the revenues that we need to fight big tech in these lawsuits and so much more.
	And also thank you for supporting our sponsors like the Satellite Phone Store, SAT123.com.
	If you want to explore satellite phones and satellite texting devices, which are pretty cool because they work anywhere that you can see the sky.
	Like literally anywhere on the planet, as long as you can see the sky.
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	As long as you see the sky, you can send and receive messages or you can make phone calls with satellite phones.
	So that's pretty cool.
	Technology can help us.
	And now we're going to jump into the interview with Alan Campbell with Food Forest Abundance with the Spring Permaculture Summit.
	And he works with Jim Gale.
	And Jim Gale is one of our heroes here, of course, because Jim Gale has done just, he's an amazing inspiration in terms of growing your own food and reclaiming land for humanity, you know, serving that purpose and setting the example and just having a vibrant, high-energy vibe.
	You know, if there was a contest of who's the last person in the world that's going to sign up for the three-year wait list suicide euthanasia program, that would be Jim Gale.
	He would never do that.
	He's like the last person on earth to do that.
	Are you kidding me?
	He enjoys living every moment of every day.
	You can't possibly be depressed hanging out with Jim Gale or Alan Campbell and growing food and planting food.
	You can't be depressed.
	It's incompatible.
	If you're growing food and you've got delicious mangoes like every day and papaya and all this crazy stuff, how could you possibly be depressed?
	You can't.
	You can't.
	Grow food, find happiness.
	Really simple.
	Anyway, enjoy this interview with Alan Campbell, the Spring Permaculture Summit, being featured at Brighton University, which is brightu.com.
	And thank you for listening today.
	Enjoy the interview.
	Take care.
	Welcome to today's interview on Brighteon.com.
	I'm Mike Adams and today we are joined by first-time guest, Alan Campbell.
	He works with Food Forest Abundance.
	Well, he's one of the principals there with Jim Gale.
	And Alan Campbell has a new Brighteon University course coming out called Spring Permaculture Summit that's coming up.
	We'll tell you about that.
	But we're going to start off by just welcoming him to our show and talking about the benefits of permaculture and growing your own food.
	So welcome, Alan.
	It's great to have you on today.
	Thanks so much, Mike.
	I'm really excited to be on and to have a chat about this subject, which is huge and really dear to my heart.
	Absolutely.
	Thanks.
	Well, we love this subject as well.
	And, you know, we're all about advocating people growing their own food and becoming more food self-reliant.
	Tell us about your background, how you got into permaculture, and then helping to shape foodforestabundance.com.
	Yeah, great.
	So I am originally, I studied as a mechanical engineer in Texas.
	I'm originally from Uruguay in South America.
	While I was in university, it was a time of discovery, really, for myself.
	And I learned about this methodology, this design methodology called permaculture.
	And, you know, a lot of the things that they were talking about made a lot of sense.
	And it also made a lot of sense to the struggles and the challenges that I was seeing kind of like in the world.
	So, for example, you know, there was talk about, you know, A place is being deserted or a lot of drought or a lot of water or people not being able to eat.
	And I was seeing that permaculture was combining all these things into solutions, like having a water catchment system where you can then filter your water and drink it and irrigate your garden and grow your own food and capture your own energy.
	So this design methodology made just a lot of sense, and it just stayed with me, and I slowly started practicing it.
	I created a compost system in my local neighborhood, so I was getting to know my neighbors and creating amazing soil out of it.
	With that soil, I started my first garden in Austin, Texas.
	I was basically riding my bike around the neighborhood, picking up all this All these leftovers from people's kitchens.
	From there, I went to work in a community garden, another place to create community and build up different types of skills.
	And in 2020, when all the craziness happened, I decided to basically just dedicate my life to permaculture because I knew that permaculture had all the solutions that Basically, the world needed.
	And I started with education, with youth education, because my son was a small kid.
	And we were out in nature all the time foraging for food.
	And then I translated that into my kids' school and now both of my kids' schools.
	And soon after, I found Food Forest Abundance.
	And Food Forest Abundance, you know, had like, in a way, like, Simplify the permaculture message because sometimes permaculture gets a little bit confusing for people because it's just a big umbrella for so many things.
	Yes, yes.
	I don't want to ask you about that, but go ahead.
	Yeah, and basically Jim, you know, was like spearheading this movement of like simplifying the message of like Hey, we can transform something that is not really an asset for us, it's a liability, which is the lawn, into an edible and ecologically rich landscape through a food forest.
	So we can put in plants that in the long run are going to create the ecology of the place much healthier and they're going to give us food for years and years to come.
	Yes, absolutely.
	So there's a lot of people that resonated with that message.
	So Food Forest Abundance, that's where Food Forest Abundance was launched.
	And we've designed basically all over the world in almost every state in the U.S. And we collaborate with a large team of designers and a team of installers that actually put the Food Forest on the ground.
	So that's a little bit the journey.
	So this is fascinating, Alan.
	I have so much to ask you about.
	I love the fact that your background is as a mechanical engineer.
	So you understand the math behind the physics of how our world works, which is really important for permaculture.
	Just to clarify, are you the founder of Food Forest Abundance or the co-founder?
	How do you describe yourself?
	No, I came in as a designer a couple of months after Jim founded Food Forest Abundance.
	I went into the education space pretty quick because I was already doing education before Food Forest Abundance.
	Got it.
	Just to be clear, So, like my co-host, Todd Pitner, he hired your company, Food Forest Abundance, with Jim Gale, who's been a guest with us many times.
	He hired your company to build a food forest in his backyard in this neighborhood in Florida.
	And I've got to tell you, by the way, that brings him so much joy, more than anything imaginable.
	He sends me videos all the time from that food forest.
	All the time.
	I think one of his latest quotes was, a food forest gives you the gifts of the miracles of nature.
	Because you're out there looking at it all the time, seeing it evolve.
	It's not a static thing.
	It's a living, sentient thing that actually responds to you, too.
	You become it, and you become part of this ecosystem.
	So that's another thing.
	Another reason to grow your own food.
	The food is almost like the hook that makes you want to be out there and see if you're producing the food that you're going to bring to your family.
	But then you start seeing like It's not just about the food.
	It's about all the ecological services or all the ecology that I'm creating in this place.
	I'm creating habitats for beings that I didn't even realize existed.
	I have so much to talk to you about on that point.
	Even on my own ranch, just by allowing it to grow And not poisoning it, not using any pesticides or herbicides for the decade plus that I've lived there.
	The amount of habitat that has grown up And the food that has emerged spontaneously without any effort on my part.
	I mean, this should be called the spontaneous food for us.
	I have dewberries.
	I have wild onions.
	I have live oak acorns.
	I've got so many natural food sources and flourishing then with rabbits and armadillos and then, of course, also falcons, the predators that go along with the ecosystem.
	But now I have places for rabbits to run and hide.
	So now there's rabbits everywhere, and then the other animals thrive as well.
	So it's just this whole ecosystem.
	It's amazing.
	But you mentioned something earlier about how permaculture can sometimes seem intimidating to people.
	And I agree with that point.
	I've seen various attempts to cover permaculture that get too technical.
	Yeah.
	And when people ask me, like, what is permaculture?
	I say, you know, it's so simple.
	Instead of letting the water run off, yeah, you build a little bowl.
	You know, you have an excavator or a bulldozer.
	You make a little bowl and you're done.
	And then trees are just going to grow there on their own.
	You don't even have to plant them.
	The trees are just going to start popping up because now you're catching water.
	Like, that's where it starts, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I have several sayings from some of our designers.
	For example, one of our designers, Doug Crouch, he says, every forest is a food forest.
	So if you see it, one of the main functions of a forest is feeding all its beings inside of it.
	So every forest is a food forest, so we can learn from that.
	And then another of our designers, Matt Monger, he says, the easiest and simplest way to apply permaculture on a degraded land is putting a bird perch.
	Because a bird is going to come, perch on this little object that you created, and it's going to poop seeds.
	And then these seeds are going to sprout.
	So it's basically like Being able to combine all these functions.
	That's what permaculture is.
	And another person here in Costa Rica told me like, oh, permaculture is making use of all your resources.
	And I was like, yeah, exactly.
	Making kind of smart use of all your resources.
	So it's like combining all your elements in your system into like a smart and sound way of interrelationships.
	So yeah, like you were saying, like Make sure you can capture all the water you have.
	Of course, sometimes if you have too many, you need to find a way for it to safely leave.
	If you have organic waste, turn it into compost, so then you can feed your plants.
	If you have too many plants, use all that organic matter that you're chopping to feed your soil, etc., etc., etc., right?
	Just see what systems are in your ecosystem, And see how you can contain them and make use of them in a cyclical manner as much as you can before the energy leaves the site.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah.
	And let me add to that.
	But first, real quick, at brightu.com, folks, you can register to watch for free the Spring Permaculture Summit.
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	But one of the things that I learned, Alan, I lived in Ecuador for a couple of years before I moved to Texas.
	And when I lived in Ecuador, I learned so much about growing food.
	And at that time, we had...
	Planted and we're growing something like 80 different fruit trees in the Valley of Longevity area, which is like springtime year-round.
	So it was the easiest place in the world to grow everything, papayas, mangoes, cherimoya.
	You know, you're from Uruguay, so you know the climate can be very, depending on your altitude there, the climate can be very amenable to growing food.
	Well, when I first came to Texas and I looked around, I thought, my God, there's no food here.
	Everything's just dry.
	There's nothing here.
	And then over time I learned, wait a minute, everything is food or medicine.
	Everything.
	Like right now, I'm transplanting loblolly pine trees because the pine trees...
	You know, you harvest the pine needles, you make pine needle tea, high in vitamin C, high in shikimic acid, which is the molecule used in the Tamiflu anti-pandemic medicine that stops viral replication.
	I'm like, my gosh, I'm looking at a medicine chest of abundance.
	What are your comments on that?
	Yeah, for sure.
	You know, nature has, like, all the food and all the medicine we need.
	So sometimes it's about, like, learning about your environment rather than trying to plant food.
	It's like going into a food forest, going on a foraging walk, learning about your local mushrooms, depending on where you are.
	And that's what got me into permaculture, because I was seeing food growing everywhere and then learning about it, too.
	And then I wanted to replicate that in my space.
	So yeah, I think it's really about learning.
	But yeah, there is also a reality that you see a lot of man-made, deserted areas.
	I don't know, I also worked in the oil industry in platforms that were drilling for natural gas oil and gas fuel.
	And basically, to be able to put in these platforms and containers, you need to basically evacuate all nature.
	Right.
	There's a possibility there where you can go back and replant, right?
	We are regenerators.
	Humans are regenerators.
	We can go back and regenerate.
	And the same with, like, you know, monocrop agriculture.
	And the same with even a city, right?
	Like, here I'm living in San Jose, Costa Rica.
	And this is the Central Valley.
	And most of the places where, like, cities were built on central valleys or on valleys of mountain ranges, these are, like, the most fertile grounds where people used to harvest all their food.
	Now they're almost food deserts because people prefer to have ornamentals because that's what was instilled in their brain that that was the way to go.
	But if we can recover these places, these are the most fertile soils.
	Of course, now they're filled up with debris from construction and deconstruction and all this stuff.
	We are regenerators.
	We have it in our DNA to be connected to nature and to recreate.
	There's even studies right now showing that the Amazon rainforest is actually a man-made food forest using these techniques.
	So permaculture at the end of the day is Using the techniques of the ancestors that were really connected to the land, right?
	There's not really nothing new, right?
	It's us just reconnecting back to the land.
	What you're talking about speaks to the...
	Well, this is an existential issue for humanity.
	I believe that we either return to sustainable permaculture type of philosophies or our civilization will die.
	Let's talk about Mexico City because I'm sure you've been covering this.
	Mexico City is just about out of water.
	They're cutting off water to high-end luxury neighborhoods right now.
	For all you watching, what's the value of your home or your business in a neighborhood that has no water?
	It's zero, okay?
	It's zero.
	So you want to obliterate all real estate?
	Just use up all the water supply.
	So talk to us about that.
	Mexico City facing, I think it's going to be the first major city in the world, over 10 million people.
	I don't know the exact population.
	The first super large city to run out of water.
	Why is that happening?
	What does that mean?
	Yeah, well...
	There could be millions of reasons.
	I can, you know, make some assumptions.
	It's happening here in San Jose, Costa Rica as well.
	You know, we have a programmed water cuts.
	So basically, like, from noon until 3 p.m., you don't have water.
	And, you know, and so, yeah, it's happening all over the world.
	Of course, and this is like the bowl of Costa Rica, right?
	This is where all the water infiltrates into.
	This is where we should have the most water, you know?
	And in Mexico City, it's kind of like the same thing.
	Mexico City used to be a lake.
	And basically, some of the most fertile agriculture happened over there in these systems called chinampas, where the indigenous people, like, mounded, basically, like, excavated the lake and put these mounds of soil and then had canals around it.
	And, like, this soil was connected to, you know, to this super fertile water with fish manure and all this stuff.
	Oh, yeah.
	They were producing, like...
	A lot of nutrition out of that.
	And of course, as the city developed and more real estate and et cetera, then the lake actually got covered up and used up as well.
	So, reasons for water running out?
	Well, in the permaculture literature, let's say, one of the cycles that has been most tampered is actually the water cycle.
	There's a lot of talk about global warming because of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere.
	Actually, there's much more water vapor in the atmosphere than greenhouse gases.
	So the water is not in the ground, it's in the air.
	And now, of course, the cycles are kind of like...
	Kind of like more aggressive in a way, like longer periods of no water and then shorter periods of more water.
	So we just need to reestablish that.
	that.
	And the way of reestablishing those cycles is keeping water on the ground and also not polluting the water too, because if you have a river that is polluted, it cannot support like any trees or any life in it.
	So it's going to erode much quicker.
	The water is going to rush to the ocean much quicker.
	So if we're able to like hold the water, so any water that falls on the on the on a land on a roof is meant to stay on the land and slowly move towards the ocean, It's not meant to rush into the ocean.
	And that's what we're doing right now.
	We have so many impermeable surfaces, no way of catching it.
	We actually want to get it out of the city as quick as possible.
	I'll just go with it.
	Again, just a reminder to the audience, brightu.com, this is where your Permaculture Summit will be airing beginning June 8th.
	Register there to watch the whole series free of charge.
	But what you're talking about there reminds me about how fragile the current monoculture systems are.
	So it's a very fragile system.
	The plants, when it's the same crop, they cut down all the trees, they make this nice flat field, and then they spray all kinds of chemicals on it and synthetic fertilizers and so on to grow so-called food, which is mineral deficient anyway.
	But it's fragile.
	It can be wiped out easily with disease or even a short-term drought or one rain, too much rain, just wiped out.
	Whereas what you're talking about, permaculture has this built-in resiliency.
	It's got redundancy because it has diversity of all kinds of different species.
	And I don't know about you, but the way I like to plant, well, I'm pretty sure this is the same way you like to plant.
	I don't plant in rows, you know.
	It's just like wherever it seems the best place for that tree or this plant or that, and I let nature tell me where things are supposed to go, right?
	And you know, like this plant wants to be on a little bit of a hill because it needs better drainage.
	This plant wants to soak up more water, so you're going to put it in the bottom of this little bowl.
	That's the way to plant.
	Exactly.
	Yeah, and then you have more resilience against drought and floods and everything.
	Exactly.
	You're working with nature rather than against it.
	So yeah, 100%.
	It's about reading your landscape and putting in the things that make sense there.
	Of course, that's what we're trying to do with permaculture and specifically with a food forest, right?
	We're trying to balance our dietary needs with the needs of the plants that we're putting in and what the ecosystem wants to be.
	So we're kind of like We're interfacing all these layers of information to come up with a design and a decision-making process to then be able to do our planting.
	But a lot of it comes from intuition as well.
	So the more you fall in tune with your land, like you were saying, Mike, you understand, okay, this is like a wet spot.
	So I'm not going to put a cactus in here.
	The cactus is going to go up in the hill where it's going to be dry.
	Right.
	Yeah, and what's really interesting is I think the longer you live with a piece of land, the more, because I walk in nature every day.
	It's just part of my religion, I suppose.
	I walk with my animals in nature.
	I have goats.
	I take my goats with me on the walk, and they walk with me.
	And the more you walk around, the more you observe, and over time you begin to learn the personalities of all the different plants and what they like or don't like.
	And what always really struck me was where they crop up.
	It's like, if you create the environment, the plants will appear.
	Like, again, effortless permaculture.
	You don't have to plant anything.
	Like, if I want Nopal cactus...
	All I have to do is create the environment for Nepal cactus and then boom, they will appear there on their own just over time.
	But if you were to compress it in a time lapse, it's like magic.
	They just appeared.
	Or if I want a spot for like a bur oak tree or a live oak tree or if I want to grow dewberries.
	I know I need a certain kind of environment.
	It needs to be on the north side of something so it's more shaded.
	It needs to have moisture.
	And then boom!
	Dewberries just explode the next year, you know?
	And I'm picking berries.
	And I don't call it gardening.
	It's not gardening.
	I'm not out there doing anything other than just mostly leaving it alone and then harvesting the food.
	Exactly.
	Gardening is almost like the excuse for you to go out there and connect with nature.
	And then after that, yeah, it's not gardening anymore.
	It's you being part of this ecosystem and then just reading it and exploring it.
	You should be a designer with us, Mike.
	I would love it.
	I would love to be a designer with you.
	Tell us about your design services.
	I already mentioned my co-host, Todd Pitner.
	He used your company.
	So thrilled.
	But you work with people all over the world, don't you?
	Yeah, we work with permaculturists all over the world.
	The process is that you can book a consultation with us for free on the website on foodforestabundance.com and you talk with one of our designers.
	That's kind of like a free place where you can ask questions or you can ask about the process or you can talk about the price.
	Yeah, if you go to the button on the top right, you can sign up for the free consultation.
	Yeah, free consultation.
	Okay, I see.
	Yeah, and then that takes you to one of us.
	And you have 30 minutes with us.
	We can answer questions.
	If you have any specifics, if you want to know about our design process, we go over that.
	But basically, from there, you can decide several routes.
	You can decide...
	If you're ready to transform your land into an ecological paradise and a food-producing paradise, we can take you to the design journey, which is basically a series of three consultations where we understand all your needs, we understand all the energies that influence your land, the type of soil that you have there.
	Kind of like what Mike was saying, we understand the landscape, we understand your needs, we combine these together.
	And we're experts with plants in every region because of the diverse array of designers that we have.
	So we put this plan of a perennial food forest.
	We also include your annual vegetables because those are the fastest producing plants.
	So you can have food pretty quick.
	And again, that's kind of like the excuse for you to be going out there.
	And...
	And then you have your roadmap through a blueprint.
	It includes a map with all the layout of your plants.
	It includes a narrative which explains all the logic of why we put the plants in each location and the combinations of plants.
	And it also comes with a plant list.
	So you can take that and then run with it yourself and do it yourself, or then you can hire one of our install teams that we have install teams throughout the U.S. mainly.
	I'm here in Costa Rica, so if you're in Costa Rica, you can hire my services.
	But...
	So that's one route.
	And then there's another route, which is you're not ready to do the big transformation and you want to do it yourself and you just want to be handheld for a couple of months or half a year or a couple of seasons, let's say, or maybe at the beginning of each season.
	We have consultations that are $200 an hour, but if you group them more than three that you can do at different times, they go at $150 an hour.
	And this is also a nice way of us following your journey and giving you advice throughout the process.
	So, it's not like a one-time thing, and then you're like, okay, what do I do from here?
	Of course, you can always hire us to do consultations moving forward if you have a design, but you can hire us with consultations all the way from day one.
	Yeah, that's a little bit of our process in Food Forest Abundance.
	All right, that's really fantastic to hear.
	And again, people are thrilled with what you've done.
	You've transformed landscapes into really edible backyards and edible food forests.
	And there's so many factors to consider today, but food inflation is just worsening.
	It's getting so bad.
	I was reading a story last night that said that Taking the family to McDonald's is now considered a luxury.
	And I'm thinking, there are so many things wrong with this story.
	Like, number one, families can't afford McDonald's except on special occasions.
	And then if it's special, why would you take them to a junk food place like McDonald's?
	Why would you go to, like, a place where you can pick your own fruit?
	Like, go to an orchard.
	Pick your own fruit.
	You know?
	That would be more of a family type of thing.
	But...
	Food inflation is bad, and it's only getting worse.
	And also, the quality of the food is very bad.
	Wouldn't you say that one of the main advantages of growing your own food is that now you know where it came from because you can see it.
	You know it hasn't been sprayed with who knows whatever toxic chemicals.
	You know it hasn't been picked too early.
	You know what's the worst thing in the world is a store-bought peach that's still hard.
	I mean, come on.
	I'm not going to eat hard peaches.
	I'm not going to pay for them.
	Exactly.
	You know, I want a fresh, soft peach right off the tree.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah, exactly.
	No, I know the quality, the taste, the nutrient contents of something that you grow yourself is always going to be, you know, you cannot even count it.
	I was also reading an article that, like, apples back in the 70s or the 60s, you know, had like...
	40 milligrams of magnesium and now they have like less than four you know like yeah like the you know the the depletion like and you know it's like it's like yeah you know we obviously obviously we can you know it's easy to point fingers you We can say, okay, a farmer has a fault, but they're embedded in a system that is creating these situations.
	All the way from, like, education, right?
	From standardization of, like, human beings all the way to standardization of foods, of soils, of everything.
	So it's like we're losing, like, the ecological diversity, which is the resilience of the earth.
	So, yeah, growing your own food.
	Like, right now there's all these, like, autoimmune disease, you know, people, like, allergic to breads and gluten and all this stuff.
	But is it really, like, is it the grain?
	Is it actually the pesticides?
	Like, That doesn't happen when you're growing it yourself.
	There's also energetical information as well.
	If you eat something that is grown in your land and then you get the flu or something that is a local bacteria or virus or whatever, your body is going to be much more able to respond to that because it has the information from nature to be able to respond to that.
	If you're in Texas, but you're eating bananas from Costa Rica, and there's a bacteria or something, a disease in Texas, your body's like, what do I do with this banana to combat this disease that I have?
	So, there's also information that you get from your local ecosystem by eating your local ecosystem as well.
	Yeah, that's incredibly, very much the case.
	I mean, we've done stories about eating local honey, for example.
	Yeah.
	It helps your body.
	It teaches your body what the local pollen is like, and so then people have fewer problems with allergies.
	That's right.
	You're sort of inoculating your body against any of the proteins that are floating around.
	It's like, hey, I'm not even going to call it a vaccine because I don't even agree with that philosophy.
	It's just food as medicine.
	It's like the effect of the vaccine, but letting your immune system do the real work, right?
	You're getting a shot of a potential, if you're getting a big quantity harmful thing, But you're ingesting it through your mouth.
	You're getting a small dose.
	Your ecology is getting used to this.
	It's incorporating it.
	It's not like something that you're getting a vaccine and then your immune system didn't even understand that it went through you because the immune system normally gets it through your nose or through your mouth or even through your skin or through your ears, not directly into your bloodstream or into your muscle tissue.
	That's so foreign.
	Absolutely.
	I want to ask you...
	It is, yeah.
	It's like a natural vaccine.
	And there's so much of that, even when you eat foods that you pulled out of the ground that have the soil microbes in them.
	Exactly.
	Yeah, and you want that thriving microbial ecosystem, and it creates resilience in your immune system as well.
	That's right.
	I want to ask you possibly a controversial question about permaculture.
	And I've noticed, if you have any kind of Real property.
	Let's say five acres or more.
	And you want to do these kinds of projects yourself.
	You want to plant trees.
	You want to dig holes.
	You want to move earth around.
	It's incredibly useful to have a piece of machinery called an excavator or a mini excavator or mini X. Let me show my screen just to show you.
	I think the Kubota brand has been really reliable.
	But this is what they look like.
	So you have little mini excavators like this.
	Even a small one.
	You see how small this is?
	The guy's just riding it here.
	But even something like this can save you all kinds of hours of time.
	So you're converting diesel fuel into labor.
	Often in a one-time situation, you need to reshape this piece, and then it's done for 100 years.
	Do you think it is acceptable?
	Because I've heard some permaculture people say, oh no, you can't burn fossil fuels.
	You can't use combustion engines to get anything done.
	It's all going to be done with shovels and mules or something.
	I don't know.
	What's your take on this?
	Well, permaculture is also about what you have available, right?
	So, yeah, if you have a community of people that can come and all shovel together and create this, then great.
	Or if you have a mule, then that's great as well.
	I think machinery plays a huge role in the today and age reshaping of the land.
	I think they're incredible assets.
	However, if you're going to use a machine that has a lot of power in shaping the land, I would say make sure that you're designing and checking that the design makes sense before you do the work.
	Because they are going to create a big impact.
	And if it's done wrong...
	For example, if you create a huge pond and you don't have a good...
	Maybe it's not put in the right place and you don't have a good spillway for the farm.
	Oh, yeah.
	You might cause big trouble there because you're holding a lot of water and suddenly all that water starts rushing out.
	And you were only able to do that because you had an excavator.
	So it needs to be done right.
	In permaculture, normally when you're unsure, it's better to do simple and slow solutions.
	That's one of the principles that we use.
	Because then you can test out the system.
	And you can still do that with an excavator, right?
	You can do a small pilot of what you were thinking you were going to do and see how that works.
	And you can scale up over time, so you start simple until you have the knowledge and the wisdom of what your local land needs, and only then bring in the effort multipliers.
	Yeah, and I personally don't, you know, I don't, using petroleum fuels, of course, they cause emissions and stuff like that, but I also worked in the environmental consulting but I also worked in the environmental consulting industry.
	And there's much more, like, you know, loss of carbon or any other emitters into the atmosphere from, like, deforestation than there is from fossil fuels.
	And, you know, there's also industries that are much more heavy in fossil fuels.
	I think, like, a small excavator, you know, to reshape your lands to be able to then plant, you know, thousands of, like, thriving trees.
	Like, there is a concept, Eric Olsen, who is also a big permaculturist, like, uses the concept of embodied energy, right?
	So, the machine has an embodied energy, the petroleum has an embodied energy, and then, like, what are you going to result out of it, right?
	So, yeah, if you use, like, you know, an excavator, stuff like that, and you just do a driveway, then It's kind of like negative, negative, negative body energy.
	But if you use an excavator and then you create this pristine food forest full of life, then okay, you exchange something that is like Taking away energy, but you're adding a lot of energy to the ecology.
	I'm right there with you.
	Exactly that.
	If you're using it responsibly, and some of these excavators can burn less than half a gallon an hour.
	It's incredible the amount of work that's in a gallon of diesel fuel, by the way.
	But if you're using it to plant trees, to reshape, to capture water, to do these things, then it's a net benefit in the long run.
	And I find, like, if I'm moving around, let's say, banana plants or something, they're very water-rich.
	They're heavy.
	And they're very heavy.
	Yeah, you know, if you get the bulb and some stalk with it, you know, it's a couple hundred pounds.
	Like, there's no way I'm doing that with my bare hands.
	It's just not going to work.
	No way.
	I need a machine.
	Exactly.
	I do have donkeys on my property, but they don't do any work.
	They're privileged donkeys.
	All they do is beg for carrots, mostly.
	They give manure.
	Yeah, yeah, but they absolutely are not interested in doing any work.
	They're like welfare donkeys, basically.
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	And we're advocates of permaculture.
	Now, let's talk about...
	We do see a lot of crazy weather happening these days.
	And some say it's getting worse.
	Some say it's the same.
	We're just noticing more.
	I don't know.
	It seems crazier to me.
	We're getting crazier windstorms and whatever hail sometimes.
	Doesn't this mean that our food supply is going to be a lot less reliable from the traditional producers?
	Yeah, I believe so.
	In the designs that we do, we actually put plants that can be in both sides of, let's say, the hardiness zone, or the weather patterns, or where it might go in that area.
	So, if you have a weather pattern that is here, We plant plants that can also be sustained in this weather, and also plants that can be sustained in this weather.
	It's happening that it's not going in one direction only.
	For example, here in Costa Rica, one year it rains a lot, and then the next year it doesn't rain that much.
	In some places more north, it could be one year they have a really cold winter, and one year the winter is almost not even there.
	We're trying to create resilience by putting plants on each side of the spectrum.
	If one year you had deep frost and those plants couldn't sustain it, we have more plants that were cold hardy that are able to sustain that.
	In one year you don't have a frost and you have plants that need a frost.
	Now we planted some stuff that is more temperate that you can produce too.
	There is I believe there is a shift in the way that agriculture is being done as well.
	Of course, it started with organic agriculture, but that's kind of like almost the same as monocrops, like still a lot of soil depletion and not really enhancing the ecology of the place.
	But now there's starting to be waves of agroforestry systems, which they're still planting in rows for production efficiency and management efficiency, but the systems are much more complex.
	And because of the complexity of the systems, the system itself is more resilient.
	The system creates wind buffers, the system creates temperature buffers, so plants are not getting shocked with these extremes.
	All right, that's really important, but let me ask you kind of a follow-up question on that.
	And it has to do with people who are currently looking to move to a different place, and so they're looking at pieces of land, or they're looking at a home with some land, whatever.
	A lot of people are moving out of places like California, obviously.
	I mean, who wants to live in a collapsing West Coast society at this point?
	And people are looking for more rural areas.
	Now, Can your company help people also consult about just looking at the land that they're about to buy?
	Like, what's the permaculture potential here?
	And let me just add this.
	I know a lot of people who moved to Austin.
	Now, Austin, in West Austin...
	Now, you lived in Austin, you said.
	In West Austin, the soils are horrible.
	It's like a little thin layer of leaves and then it's rock.
	It's like limestone.
	There's nothing.
	But then east of Austin, roughly speaking, east of the 130 tollway or whatever, now you have soil.
	You've got five feet of black dirt.
	I mean, the contrast is huge.
	I've seen people move to Austin and buy a house in West Austin because that's where it's kind of more popular.
	And then they're like, how come I can't grow any food?
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah.
	Well, it's also understanding the ecology too, right?
	It's a more like desert landscape, so you could be growing more like desert plants there in a natural way.
	But there's always ways of creating more fertility on your soil by us being regenerators, right?
	So planting things, like for example, the mesquite.
	The mesquite grows in West Austin quite a bit.
	It's almost like a weed.
	And it's hard to work with because it has thorns.
	But it's...
	It's a very good food.
	You can turn the mesquite beans into flour.
	So you can have a source of food there which is really rich in protein.
	And then you can be planting a lot of mesquite and then you can be chopping and dropping that mesquite into the ground.
	And maybe you do like a pit, like you said.
	You create a pit and you start putting all this organic debris in it.
	And suddenly you create an island of fertility.
	So now you can plant something that is like Something that can withstand a little bit of a different climate, not just the deserted climate.
	So you can start creating this succession in your plant.
	But yeah, you need to manage it.
	You need to be on it, because yeah, you need to build soil.
	It's the same as in Florida, right?
	In Florida, you have sandy soils.
	At Jim's place in Gold's Landing, it's all sand.
	The way to fix that is to put a lot of mulch, a lot of wood chips from cuttings of trees, because The wood chips have a lot of calcium and then they can bind to other minerals and slowly you start creating soil.
	Yes.
	So similar concepts.
	There is efforts right now with these principles, they're regenerating the Sahel, the intersection between the tropic Africa and the Sahara.
	There's also a big permaculturist in the world called Jeff Lawton who has a big regeneration of the Of the desert in Jordan.
	And he's using a lot of pioneer plants, nitrogen-fixing plants that he's chopping and dropping to create a lot of biomass.
	Wow, that makes sense.
	And then you can plant.
	In Phoenix, Arizona, people are growing tropical stuff because they're dumping truckloads of woodchips, so they're planting in the woodchips and, of course, with a little bit of irrigation.
	In Tucson, Arizona, there's Brad Lancaster who basically changed all the laws of the town because he was like, hey, There is enough water that falls on this town.
	It's just like we're not capturing any of it.
	So he's creating these basins off the curve of the road.
	So the road is a river, and then he has a cutoff where the water infiltrates in a basin, and now he has this enormous ecology growing.
	And yeah, they're actually solving water problems in these deserted areas.
	That's challenging, because in Tucson, it only normally rains hard like once a year.
	Yeah, he did the calculations, right?
	And he's like, even though it only rains once, if you calculate all the water usage of the town, we actually get that amount of water when it falls.
	It's just like...
	You just have to capture it.
	Yeah, it falls so intensely that people just want to get it out because it's like, you know, if we capture it, you know, or if it stays, it's going to cause disaster.
	But if you design for it, Now you're creating the ecology that you need.
	Absolutely.
	Let's also talk about combining animals with your permaculture.
	Let me just say, for example, we have chickens in addition to goats.
	I think it's really important to have backyard chickens because, of course, you get the fresh eggs, but then you also have a place to put your food scraps.
	If you've got fruit that's gone bad or whatever, the chickens are happy to gobble it up.
	And then also goats.
	I love the fact that goats make nice, just really awesome pelletized fertilizer.
	They're just like little pellet fertilizer factories walking around, just pooping and walking, and that's what goats do.
	But if you need to handle animal manure, you want goat manure, trust me.
	It's like the best to deal with.
	It's already, it's like prepackaged by Mother Nature, you know what I mean?
	Yeah, it's great.
	But isn't it important to incorporate, if you can, where you live, how do animals incorporate into a permaculture plan?
	Yeah, I see animals, you know, playing, you know, so many functions in a system.
	Well, first of all, like, you know, you start, like, you know, getting to know them as well, right?
	So you start getting to connect with these animals.
	So there's kind of like this friendship, spiritual connection.
	But, you know, like, their biggest function, I see, is their, yeah, they're kind of like compost machines, right?
	And we are, too.
	We are, too.
	You know, we're eating stuff, and we're creating compost.
	We're not, in a lot of places, we're not...
	We're comfortable with maybe using our own manure, but animal manure, let's say, has less pathogens, so it's easier to use.
	But yeah, all of their gut systems is a compost-making machine.
	So basically, having animals is going to accelerate your production.
	Your regeneration process.
	You're going to have much healthier soils if you can incorporate the animal manure into your system much quicker than if you don't.
	You can chop and drop a plant and that's great.
	It's going to decompose.
	The soil itself has its own microbiome, so it's going to create this digestive system.
	But if you pass it through an animal, it's going to be from one day to the next.
	You eat it, you chop it up, you get all your microbiome digesting it, and then you're getting it out, and now all the nutrients are available for the plants immediately again.
	Yeah.
	So I would say incorporating animals, if you can, is huge.
	Normally, the incorporation of the animals, it's just the next level of commitment to the place, right?
	Because you need to have a system to be able to manage them, right?
	Like, what are they going to eat?
	What are they going to drink?
	Yes.
	Chickens, you have to have water for them all the time.
	They can survive without food for a little bit.
	But you have to have some kind of protection from predators in the night.
	You just have to be a little bit more committed and have systems in place to be able to manage them.
	A food forest by itself, you don't have to manage that much, but animals is the next level of commitment to place, which is great.
	That's a great thing to do as well.
	Committing to place is what's going to make the place be regenerated quicker too.
	Now, fish and ponds.
	Now, you mentioned earlier some of the ancient civilizations really knew how to grow food.
	When I lived in South America, one of the things I did is I toured some of the ancient Inca civilization structures, and they had fish ponds.
	And they would capture fish, and then basically this was aquaponics back, you know, I don't know what year it was.
	Centuries ago.
	Aquaponics.
	So they would have fish in the pond and then they would have rafts of plants that would have what we call the suspended non-circulating hydroponic system.
	The roots go down into the pond water so the fish are creating the nutrients.
	The roots are getting the nutrients and there's specialization of the roots.
	Some roots that are in the air become the air exchange roots and then some that are in the water become the nutrient water roots.
	And so they had a system, and it didn't require any technology, really, just understanding.
	The system worked, you know?
	Exactly.
	I'm looking at them like, why aren't we doing this now?
	Yeah, exactly.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	That's, in my mind, simpler than aquaponics, because aquaponics, you require a lot of, like, technology that, you know, you might, like, You're relying on temperature of the water and you're relying on oxygenation of the water and making sure your pipes do not get stuck and all that stuff.
	So in a way, it's like simplifying aquaponics and doing it more with nature.
	Of course, if you're living in a place that is really cold and you want to have fish and you want to have access to it all the time and you have the technology and the expertise, go for it.
	But aquaponics, I would say, is like a very invested, high-tech A way of getting into food production.
	I think there's simpler ways.
	I completely agree.
	I mean, I looked into it very deeply, and both hydroponics and aquaponics, if you lose power, you lose all the fish in minutes, and then you're done.
	In hydroponics, you can lose the whole crop if the water doesn't circulate for a few hours.
	But I was using the...
	I've been growing for years in these bins using what's called the Kratky method, you know, the suspended net pots, which is really based on, I think, the Inca technology, which was also adopted in Taiwan by the aboriginal Taiwanese.
	But it's a very simple system, requires no pumps.
	So it's great for third world scenarios or off-grid scenarios because there's no pumps.
	So there's nothing to fail, you know?
	Okay, yeah.
	And I'm into resilient systems that can't just, like, I don't want to wake up one morning, oh, the power failed, I lost the whole crop.
	No, no thank you.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And that's what permaculture is as well, right?
	Trying to create resiliency.
	Also, so it doesn't depend on the human input that much.
	Right.
	Or circuit boards.
	Exactly.
	You know, I don't want these complex circuit boards that are really close to the water tank also that, you know, are subject to a power surge or a lightning strike and it's like, oh, come on.
	We've got to be able to make this work.
	So that's what permaculture is all about.
	All right.
	So, Alan, let me mention your website.
	Foodforestabundance.com is where people can contact you and Jim Gale and get their services, the food forest design services nailed down.
	And then the Spring Permaculture Summit is at brightu.com, coming up beginning June 8th.
	Is there anything else you'd like to say and leave us with as we wrap up this interview?
	Yeah, we would like to also give your audience, Mike, a discount for the upcoming weeks until the end of the spring.
	So until June 21st of 20% with a coupon code of MIKE20 for anybody that wants to buy a design or a consultation.
	So yeah, feel free to go to the website.
	That's awesome.
	Can I ask you to also add a coupon code RANGER? Ranger.
	Yeah, we can do that.
	Just Ranger because my audience knows that's usually like the standard coupon code.
	Yeah, we can change it to that.
	Or we can add both.
	Do both.
	Yeah, do both.
	Okay, so Mike20 or Ranger.
	Perfect.
	Or sometimes we like to do funny coupon codes like, Mike collects goat poop, saves you 20%, you know?
	Something like that.
	We come up with, you know, we like to have fun, too.
	Yeah, that's great.
	Yeah.
	It's about that, too.
	I'm doing the food forest at my son's school right now, and we're building community.
	It's a It's such a pleasure to be out in nature and see these systems evolve, as Todd says.
	The growing food is a huge part of it and a huge part of the benefit for us.
	The benefits that you get in the long run, well, you're going to have an asset to leave to your next generation as well, right?
	If you plant something now, you feel like, oh, I'm not going to be here in 10 years, or I'm just going to reap very little fruit out of this tree.
	That tree is going to be there for generations to come.
	So many people are going to benefit from that, and it's part of the story too, right?
	Back in the day, there used to be stories of like, yeah, the grandpa used to sit under this tree and brew his tea or smoke his pipe or so many stories connected to nature like that.
	We create these emotional relationships with these beings as well.
	There's so many benefits that come from growing your food forest.
	We're encouraged to do it yourself or if you need help, to reach out to us.
	I would also say to all those watching, if you're a prepper, you're into preparedness at all, you probably have a food supply stored.
	That's going to run out.
	It's good for a while.
	No matter how big your food supply, eventually it's gone.
	You have to transition into growing more of your own food.
	The best time to start growing food, especially with nut trees and fruit trees and berries and so on, is to start now.
	So that a couple years down the road, whenever there's disruptions in the food supply, you've got at least semi-mature trees that are really producing.
	You know, one other thing, Alan, I want to mention this to you.
	I was talking with a man who sells peaches at one of the local farmer's markets over the weekend, and he said that somebody stole 200 peaches off his peach tree.
	I'm like, people are looting peach trees now!
	That's how bad food inflation is!
	Exactly.
	That's crazy!
	That's crazy, yeah.
	It's almost like you also need to strategically put your peach trees and other trees where you can protect them from looters, you know?
	Put your cactus around, put your mesquite around your peach trees.
	Yeah, right.
	If you can make it through the thorns, you can have the peaches, you know?
	Exactly.
	Well, there's a guy in Minnesota who created these rust barriers.
	To prevent the deer to get into its food forest.
	And yeah, they're successful.
	So yeah, there's ways to work around that too.
	Well, that's great.
	All right.
	Well, thank you, Alan.
	It's been a pleasure to speak with you today.
	We really appreciate what you're teaching people and what you do.
	And thanks for making the world a more abundant place.
	Awesome.
	Thanks, Mike.
	Thanks for having me.
	It's been great.
	All right.
	Thank you, too, Alan.
	Have a great rest of your day.
	And thank all of you for watching.
	Again, the Summit is available free of charge.
	You're going to learn a lot there.
	Just go to brightu.com, sign up.
	It begins streaming June 8th.
	You're going to love it.
	You're going to learn life-changing information that will help keep you well-fed and nourished for potentially generations to come.
	And thank you for supporting us, and thank you for supporting foodforestabundance.com.
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	If you've got a piece of land, you want to turn it into a food forest, they're the folks who can help you get that done.
	And thank all of you for watching today.
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