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May 15, 2024 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams

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BBN, May 15, 2024 – Bird Flu FEAR CAMPAIGN being rolled out to push another wave of DEADLY JABS

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	Welcome to Bright Town Broadcast News for Wednesday, May 15th, 2024.
	I'm Mike Adams, the Health Ranger.
	Thank you for joining me today as we are building the infrastructure of human freedom.
	And I'm happy to announce that our release of Neobiomistrel Which is a 7 billion parameter language model that was trained on the entire collection of abstracts of the National Library of Medicine PubMed database.
	We will be releasing that very soon.
	It looks like probably next week.
	And the only reason it's taken this long...
	Oh, by the way, you can get that.
	It's free to download, non-commercial, no advertising, no fees, nothing at brighttown.ai.
	And again, the only reason it took us so long to get this biomeastral model is because I kept...
	Coming up with more data sets and throwing that at our engineering team that's actually doing the fine tuning training.
	And they're like, hey, we finished the data set, you know, 0.1.3.
	I'm like, oh, great.
	I've got 0.1.4 now.
	I'm like, oh, really?
	How big is that data set?
	Well, just this one file is 700 megabytes, and they're like, what's that?
	Basically, we took like 8,000 articles from Mercola.com.
	Actually, Dr.
	Mercola sent us the articles.
	He wanted to be, you know, he wanted to participate in this project.
	And then we use our logic and our scripting and our in-house AI systems to do an expansion phase on the content and ended up with 700 megabytes just on those article files.
	And then, because I've been setting up, scaling up a larger data center, And I think I showed you one of the pictures yesterday of one of our banks of eight workstations.
	We've got multiple banks of eight on wheels.
	They're on these giant racks that have wheels and we can roll them around.
	We roll them around looking for electricity is basically what happens because everything we plug them into blows the circuits because they're using so much power, all the GPUs.
	So I'm actually seeking electricity everywhere.
	It's really bizarre.
	Never thought I'd be blowing circuits left and right just trying to train AI systems.
	And this isn't even...
	We have a rack of servers in another data center that's got plenty of electricity, but what I'm talking about is the pre-training data pipeline systems that we put on these metal shelving units with heavy-duty casters, and we roll them around seeking electricity, and it's not a proper data center.
	That I have these running in.
	That's why it doesn't have all the required juice.
	But anyway, so I keep coming up with more data sets because we're expanding the number of workstations.
	And we were able to add, I think, 58 books to the most recent data set.
	I think it's 58.
	Let me just double check.
	Here it is.
	Yeah.
	Okay, yeah.
	Our data set version 0.1.5 is...
	58 books.
	On herbal medicine, alternative medicine, permaculture, nutrition, traditional Chinese medicine, and more.
	And that's full textbooks, so some of these are big.
	Some of these are like encyclopedias.
	And then we also added 1,000 articles from Sayer G's website, GreenMedInfo.
	We've got 8,150 articles from Mercola.com.
	Of course, all the articles from naturalnews.com and all of my interviews and podcasts through the end of April is going into this.
	So you're going to be able to download this and you're going to be able to ask it all kinds of questions about symptoms or diseases that are covered in PubMed.
	You'll be able to ask it about nutrition, about minerals and natural molecules and botanicals and all kinds of things.
	It'll be an incredible research tool for you.
	I think it'll be the best research tool that's ever been created in this space, the best LLM for researching natural medicine backed by very strong science.
	But we'll see.
	I mean, maybe it has odd behavior that we don't know about yet.
	Anyway, that's going to be available very, very soon.
	Can't wait to announce it for you.
	And again, it'll be free.
	But just register your email at brighttown.ai and you'll be able to receive an email when we announce it and you'll be able to download it for free.
	It'll be around 5 or 6 gigabytes, something in that range.
	And you'll need a computer with about...
	8 to 16 gigabytes of RAM on your motherboard, on the computer itself, And then it helps to have a graphics card, but it's not totally necessary.
	You can run this in the CPU only if you need to.
	It'll just be slower, but it'll still run.
	All right.
	Now, we've got some pretty crazy news for you today.
	And every time that I think I've seen everything, some new crazy thing shows up.
	Like today, we have this official portrait from...
	King Charles.
	King Charles III, I guess, is his official title.
	And I just, I can hardly believe this, so I thought I would show you this portrait.
	Again, this is the official portrait of King Charles, His Majesty King Charles III. And we're going to show you this thing because it is bonkers.
	So, wow!
	Whoa!
	This is...
	Okay.
	So, this is the King of England burning in the flames of hell, surrounded by demons crying out, basically, is what it looks like.
	Ghoulish, hellish creatures.
	I don't know if you can make any of that out, but there's one very clear demon face that's just to the right of his temple.
	There's a face there.
	Let me ask my editor.
	Just zoom in.
	You can see kind of a more orangish-colored face with two dark eyes, a nose and a mouth, and even hair.
	It's a demon creature face.
	But when you look at this thing, I mean, look at the whole picture now.
	What does this...
	What is the impression here?
	Number one, obviously it's like the flames of hell and the red of blood.
	And we really need to get David Icke on this show because David Icke knows all about the bloodlines and these people come from a line of blood-sucking vampires.
	I mean, that's not even a metaphor.
	So-called British royalty...
	Are some scary, demonic, satanic bloodlines.
	And in this portrait, they're telling you exactly who they are.
	Just for the whole world to see, look, this is the official portrait of King Charles, surrounded by hell flames and tortured demonic creatures.
	Now look at his hands in this.
	Let's zoom in on his hands.
	Because I want you to notice something here.
	Now, do you notice that his hands look like zombie hands?
	Number one, kind of undead skeletal hands.
	The second thing to notice is that, of course, his right hand is over his left hand, but not in a natural pose.
	And his left hand is crippled.
	His left hand is apparently grasping this...
	This saber or sword, I'm sure there's some symbolism associated with that.
	But you notice that his left hand is, it looks really crippled, and he's got this ring on what appears to be his pinky, but there's like a finger missing.
	So, and you can't see his thumb, or either thumb, and I don't know what that indicates, but there's probably, maybe some of you listening, you know about all the symbolism, and what does it mean to be missing a finger?
	Because, like, maybe he's missing his pinky.
	Because there's a ring that's visible, it might be on his ring finger, so his pinky is gone and his thumb is gone, and he's holding the sword, so it's a crippled zombie demon creature holding a weapon of war?
	Does that ring a bell?
	Right.
	That couldn't be anything.
	Anyway, if you look around, if you zoom in on this thing and you just look around, it is horrifying.
	And then you've got this butterfly.
	That is about to land on the king's right shoulder.
	And the butterfly, of course, all kinds of symbolism associated with butterflies, but one of them is that it's a symbol of mind control.
	So this is a portrait of a figure who is emerging from the gates of hell To control your mind and enslave you.
	And you notice that the edges of his human form are blurred with the fires of hell, especially look at his arms.
	You notice how there's almost no distinction, especially his left arm, which is on the right side.
	There's no distinction between where his arm ends and where the fires of hell begin.
	And I think that indicates just the symbolism Is that it indicates that he has merged with hellish energy and that he takes human form out of the energies of hell.
	In other words, these energies take shape and form this human body and inhabit this human body, but he is actually emerging as a creature from the interdimensional plane of hell.
	At least that's one way to read this.
	I mean, it's like...
	What the hell?
	Literally, what the hell is this?
	Well, it is an image of hell with a human form emerging, and that's the King of England.
	And then, of course, there's all the medals and symbols on his chest.
	I don't know what all those are, but they look like...
	Derivatives of the flowers of life, which the Nazi symbol is based on, of course.
	I don't know what all those symbols are.
	I'm sure other experts would know in a lot more detail about that.
	I'm thinking Jay Dyer might be a great person to analyze this, possibly.
	Of course, David Icke as well, so...
	We're going to reach out to David and see if he wants to be interviewed about this and other topics.
	We'll just see.
	But anyway, what do you think about this?
	What's the impression, in your view, about this portrait?
	Something is truly demonic in the UK. Okay, moving on to other horrors.
	Check out this video of Israeli children stomping on food.
	That is, it's food aid intended for the people of Gaza, but of course these radical, insane Israeli Zionist activists, they block the food aid trucks, they rip the food out of the trucks, and then their children stomp on the food so that they can starve more Palestinians.
	Because they, you know, in the Zionist world, they teach hatred at a very young age.
	They teach children to cause famine.
	Okay, check this out.
	Okay, check this check this out.
	We'll be right back. .
	Now, the extremist attacks on the humanitarian aid convoys are also making news.
	And there's a story from RT that says, EU condemns Israeli extremists.
	Settlers in the West Bank had blocked an aid convoy destined for Gaza.
	So the foreign policy head of the EU, Joseph Borrell, has demanded that Israel do something about the extremists who are attacking humanitarian aid convoys.
	Supplies of food and other goods for Gaza have been rerouted through Israel.
	On Monday, one such convoy was ransacked near Hebron.
	He said, quote, I'm outraged by the repeated and still unchecked attacks perpetrated by Israeli extremists on aid convoys on their way to Gaza, including from Jordan.
	Hundreds of thousands of civilians are starving, said Burrell on Twitter.
	And he urged Israeli authorities to stop these operations.
	Of course, Israel is thrilled that hundreds of thousands of Gazans are starving because Israeli leadership is engaged in straight-up genocide.
	They want to starve to death, even all Palestinians, if they can achieve that.
	So, of course, Israel sort of, you know, a wink and a nod encourages the attacks on the food convoys.
	And then Israel, you know, Netanyahu says, we didn't do anything.
	It's these other people.
	They're destroying the aid convoys.
	Yeah, right.
	Funny.
	If Israel wanted to, they could protect the convoys, but of course, they don't want to.
	And even the U.S. National Security Advisor, Jake Sullivan, even Sullivan denounced these attacks.
	He says, quote, It is a total outrage that there are people who are attacking and looting these convoys coming from Jordan, going to Gaza to deliver humanitarian assistance.
	It's something we make no bones about.
	We find it completely and utterly unacceptable.
	But of course, the U.S. won't do anything about it either.
	And the U.S. continues to support Israel with all kinds of money, billions of dollars.
	So it's just talk from Sullivan.
	The U.S. hasn't really done much of anything except maybe delayed some shipments of 2,000-pound bombs, which I guess that does count, but it's not enough.
	And from the story on RT, photos and videos show the attackers climbing onto the aid trucks, throwing food packages onto the roadside, and dumping out flour from the sacks.
	See, this is what Zionists do.
	They raid the food trucks.
	I mean, look, they launched missiles at the food aid workers and killed them.
	From, what was that, World Central Kitchen?
	That was several weeks ago now, but they also interdict the aid trucks and they rip the food off the trucks and they just destroy it and they teach their children to destroy it.
	So this is what Zionism is like, is extreme hatred, is genocide, ethnic cleansing and teaching their children to cause other children to starve to death.
	Hatred and racism.
	These are the pillars of Zionism.
	Zionism is an evil, satanic cult.
	Now, one of the diabolical things that Israel has done, and this is really sick, they're now claiming that they have the lowest civilian casualty ratio in history.
	That's right.
	Israel is claiming they've set the new gold standard for minimizing harm to civilians.
	I mean, seriously, after bombing hospitals, bombing universities, bombing residential areas, targeting fleeing refugees and killing 35,000 civilians, 70% of whom are women and children.
	They claim now that Gaza is making it all up.
	They say that the death numbers are fake.
	And the way they say that is Israel is now claiming that most of the people they killed were terrorists, not civilians.
	You got that?
	You got that?
	So Israel comes in, bombs a hospital, uses snipers to kill doctors, Just indiscriminately shoots and kills 35,000 people.
	And then they just say, well, those weren't civilians.
	Those were Hamas.
	Therefore, we didn't kill very many civilians.
	We killed terrorists.
	That's how they justify it now.
	Isn't that incredible?
	That would be like...
	I don't know, like the U.S. military dropping 2,000-pound bombs on, like, Columbia University, killing, like, 5,000 students and staff and professors and everything, and then saying, well, we didn't kill any civilians.
	Those were all terrorists, don't you know?
	Those were terrorist enemy combatants.
	So we set the gold standard in protecting innocent civilians.
	By bombing them to death and then calling them terrorists.
	Yeah.
	So this is particularly diabolical on the part of Israel.
	And what we're learning about the Zionists, by the way, is that Zionists only see themselves as victims.
	And they have some kind of mental illness where they can never see anybody else as victims.
	Only they are victims.
	Right?
	And this is why, by the way, this is why they claim they have the right to kill everybody else in self-defense.
	Because they don't assign any humanity to anybody else.
	To them, the Palestinians are not people, they're animals.
	The same thing with Iranians and everybody else.
	By the way, this is the way they also see non-Jews.
	Seriously, this is the way they see Christians as really people who don't count.
	Only the Zionists count from their point of view, but they're quick to make themselves the victims of everything while they are incapable of seeing how they are victimizing others.
	In social circles, in a normal human interaction, that kind of behavior would be called sociopathy, a sociopath.
	Israel is a nation that functions as a sociopath at the state level.
	And that's why they're capable of carrying out so many heinous crimes against innocent people and then claiming that they're actually the good guys.
	That, no, we set the gold standard for minimizing harm to non-combatants while they're bombing civilian cities into rubble.
	Think about it.
	Just the latest insanity.
	Now, by the way, some of the Zionist proponents have said recently, well, the UN revised the death figures and is no longer considering people to be dead if they're just missing and buried under the rubble.
	Yeah, so the only deaths they count now are the bodies that they have recovered, not the people buried under the rubble.
	Now, of course, you can't get them out of the rubble because Israel keeps bombing.
	So this is how Israel actually covers up the civilian deaths by bombing residential buildings, causing the civilians to be buried under the rubble and then continuing to bomb those areas so that those bodies can't be recovered, so they can't be counted as casualties.
	I mean, this is the level of evil that the Zionists are engaged in while they claim to set the new gold standard for urban warfare.
	Wow!
	How about the new gold standard in pure evil?
	Slaughtering women and children indiscriminately and then lying about it and covering it up.
	Yeah, that's a new standard.
	I wouldn't call it gold.
	I mean, I would call it demonic.
	It's a new demonic standard.
	I mean, even Satan himself must be impressed with the level of deception and murder and suffering coming out of Israel these days.
	Alright, shifting gears, according to a story out of the Epoch Times, did you know that one in eight U.S. adults have injected themselves with Gila monster venom peptides?
	Because that's the basis of the weight loss drugs known as GLP-1 agonists.
	Those are drugs that are supposed to be these miracle weight loss drugs.
	And, of course, if you saw my interview with Dr.
	Brian Artis, you know that the drugs are based on Gila monster venom peptides.
	It's not even a secret.
	It's openly admitted.
	There are mainstream media articles about it, how these drugs are based on the venom peptides, but they're better.
	The synthetic drugs are even better than the Gila monster venom, right?
	So think about it.
	One in eight U.S. adults is so desperate to lose weight That they inject themselves with lizard venom.
	Literally.
	Because this is an injection.
	And apparently these drugs cost over $1,000 a month.
	And I don't think insurance covers them, although I'm not totally sure about that.
	I don't even know how many injections it is.
	I thought I read somewhere it's like one a week.
	But whatever it is, let's suppose you jab yourself once a week with this thing.
	It's like getting bit by a reptile every week.
	You know?
	A reptile that paralyzes the vagus nerve so that your stomach won't empty itself.
	And that way you just feel full longer.
	But you're poisoning your stomach.
	You're poisoning your digestive tract.
	And this is why some people, after using these drugs for some period of time, they vomit every meal, every time, for years.
	Wow!
	There's a side effect for you.
	My, you're looking thin.
	Yeah, because I vomit every meal I eat.
	And that's been going on for three years straight.
	Woo!
	That's some way to lose weight.
	Kind of makes healthy diets and exercise seem easier by comparison.
	I don't know about you, but if I'm vomiting after every meal...
	It sounds like a lot of work.
	I don't want to do that.
	It sounds like, you know, cleanup crews are going to be needed.
	It also sounds like it would be horrible for your vocal cords and barfing up all that stomach acid into your teeth.
	You probably have dental problems because, I don't know, what happens if you vomit stomach acid into your mouth?
	Like three times a day for three years in a row.
	It seems like there would be bad things from that.
	I'm just guessing.
	But people don't want to stop eating the Pop-Tarts, you know?
	They're like, doctor, I've tried everything.
	I've just tried everything.
	The doctor's like, have you tried some mild exercise?
	Well, no, I haven't tried that.
	Have you tried not eating processed junk food?
	No.
	Have you tried not drinking high fructose corn syrup?
	Well, no, I gotta have my sodas.
	Okay, so you haven't tried everything.
	You haven't even tried the basic things.
	You haven't tried, like, the top three things that you should try if you want to lose weight.
	Okay, well, I've tried everything else.
	Well, what have you tried?
	I tried diet pills and caffeine.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, clearly you're a candidate for reptile venom injections.
	Yay!
	This is how sick our culture is.
	It's like nobody wants to lose weight the normal, natural way, which is to shift your food choices, reduce your calories, and engage in increased mobility and exercise wherever you can.
	Nobody wants to do that.
	They just want to inject themselves with reptilian venom.
	And they do.
	One in eight U.S. adults.
	One in eight!
	Don't you wonder if there are other long-term effects from just injecting yourself every week or whatever it is with reptile venom?
	Or technically the synthetic peptides modeled after reptile venom.
	What if it causes Alzheimer's long-term?
	What if there's neurological damage from this?
	Probably is.
	What if it's all good for five years and then your brain gets eaten or something?
	I mean, who knows?
	I'm sure they haven't done long-term trials on this because why bother?
	It's all about paying off the FDA now.
	You know who doesn't need weight loss drugs?
	The people in Gaza, because they're so busy fleeing Israeli bombs, and of course they're utterly lacking food.
	I'm not mocking them here.
	I mean, it's an atrocious situation.
	You know, isn't it sad that in Gaza there are hundreds of thousands of people facing real famine, while in America there's so much processed food That people are so overweight that they turn to reptile injections to try to force their stomachs to not work.
	I mean, how crazy is that?
	That's like, man, halfway around the world these people, there's not even enough food to eat.
	They're dying of starvation.
	And then here in America, we're killing ourselves because we have too much food.
	Woo, something is wrong with this world.
	Now I'm going to shift to a different topic here.
	Let's talk about The big bird flu side up.
	Now there's a website, a blog site called Second Smartest Guy in the World that has a really great article called Disease X. 70 Colorado dairy farm workers monitored for symptoms as FDA claims bird flu will kill one in four Americans.
	What?
	From false flags to assassinations to various psyops like Disease X, there are many options on the table that may be used against we, the people, as well as the rest of the world.
	Psyop bird flu is now being trial ballooned for summer lockdowns.
	And then they're quoting CBS Colorado News as saying that 42 dairy herds across nine states have tested positive for bird flu.
	Yeah.
	And of course, as you know, I've covered this before, that whole thing of tested positive, it's all quackery.
	There's no scientific basis whatsoever, no instrument basis, no external standards.
	When they say that they tested positive for bird flu, that means they're just making it up.
	Literally, they're just making it up.
	And then the article continues from CBS, you know, mainstream media.
	While scientists say bird flu has pandemic potential...
	They claim the risk to humans is very low right now, but they discourage the consumption of raw milk, unpasteurized milk, you see?
	Because then they're saying that pasteurization kills the viruses.
	What?
	I mean, this is just complete nonsense from CBS. Number one, viruses aren't even alive.
	And secondly, pasteurization does not denature so-called viruses.
	Which are just protein sequences from cell exosomes.
	Pasteurization is designed to kill bacteria.
	These morons at CBS... Oh, and Reuters is part of the story, it turns out.
	These morons don't even know how pasteurization is supposed to work.
	Pasteurization doesn't kill viruses, but they're attacking raw milk here.
	As if, if you drink raw milk, you might die from scary bird flu.
	So make sure you're getting that pasteurized, homogenized milk with the artificially altered milk fats that promote all kinds of cardiovascular and heart disease, by the way.
	Don't you dare touch that scary, scary raw milk, you know, fresh from the cow.
	Woo!
	That might kill you.
	That's what they're saying.
	This is incredible.
	And then they claim that they did a bird flu vaccine study on some monkeys.
	And they claim that they infected six monkeys with bird flu who were unvaccinated.
	And four out of the six died.
	They say, oh my god, oh my god, get ready for the bird flu, vax!
	Yep.
	And then this story talks about CDC director, former director Robert Redfield, who says that he's worried about the bird flu, that right now it takes about five amino acid changes to make it effectively infecting humans.
	And he says, in the laboratory, quote, I could make it highly infectious for humans in months.
	Hmm.
	That's from the CDC. And then this story cites an article from the UK Daily Mail that says, this is unbelievable, FDA says it's preparing for a bird flu pandemic in people that could kill one in four Americans.
	Dr.
	Robert Califf of the FDA says he's drawing up plans for a major outbreak.
	Yeah!
	Plans to cause a major outbreak.
	And he was talking to a Senate committee.
	Says they're drawing up plans to roll out tests and antiviral drugs and vaccines in the event that the bird flu virus jumps to humans.
	He says the risk was still low.
	And so far it's only infected one person, a farm worker in Texas.
	But then he says, the virus is mutating.
	Oh, here we go.
	Here comes the viral scare story, right?
	He says, we need to continue to prepare for the possibility that it might jump to humans like fleas, right?
	He says, the real worry is that it will jump to the human lungs, right?
	Where, when that has happened in other parts of the world, he says, the mortality rate has been 25%.
	Those are my donkeys laughing at the FDA commissioner.
	He wants you to think that 25% of the American people are going to die.
	Because that's what they saw in a third world country somewhere that probably didn't have access to running water or something.
	And he wants you to be very, very afraid of the bird flu virus.
	It might mutate and it might jump to your lungs!
	It's like a cartoon.
	So I'm using cartoon voices here.
	It's like a clown show cartoon of just fake science and bad medicine and just made-up PSYOP conspiracy theories from the FDA. And frankly, the entire mainstream media is in on this.
	Their job is to make you incredibly afraid of bird flu.
	And to do so just in time for the bird flu vaccines, which, rest assured, are being manufactured right now in large quantities.
	Using the same infrastructure that was used to roll out the spike protein jabs, which are also still killing people right now.
	But the big bird flu psyop is coming.
	You can count on it.
	And they're just getting ready for the big fear campaign.
	So what I hope that you keep in mind in all of this is that this is a massive psyop campaign being rolled out to infect your mind with fear to try to convince you to go in and get injected with whatever concoction they're coming up with that they're going to call a bird flu vaccine.
	As you know, it doesn't have to be a vaccine for them to call it a vaccine.
	They just make that up.
	And they, I mean, they just tell you, you gotta go get it.
	It's all good.
	Trust the science.
	You know, the whole deal.
	And anybody dumb enough to, quote, trust the science might pay for that with their lives.
	Because who knows what kind of terminal concoction they're going to put into this jab that's even worse than what they put into the last jab.
	I think they were running a pilot test with the COVID jabs just to try to see, are people gullible enough to go along with all this stuff?
	And wow, the answer is yes, for the vast majority of people.
	They'll line up and take anything.
	They don't even know what's in it.
	It doesn't even matter.
	Some of the insert sheets were blank, just blank.
	The vaccine company left them blank on purpose, almost as a joke, and you open it up, and it's just a giant blank sheet of paper.
	And some of them said this sheet intentionally left blank.
	It's like, what is this?
	Clown show world.
	But anybody gullible enough to take these jabs is probably going to be infected with whatever craziness they come up with here.
	I wouldn't touch this.
	And what all the scare stories are going to be, People dying from chemical weapons dropped on them or who knows what else.
	But there's no such thing as a bird flu virus that can infect human beings.
	There's no such thing as even a virus that can be extracted from any one organism and then isolated and purified and then put into another person to cause the same disease and symptoms from the original source person.
	Even that is impossible.
	No one's been able to demonstrate that.
	So the whole theory of virology, being able to infect people, is actually fake.
	That's a fraud.
	And one of the ways you know that is, look at all the lies they tell you.
	Don't drink raw milk, it might kill you.
	Don't take ivermectin, oh no, that might hurt you.
	When it's the thing that actually worked, because it's an antiparasitic molecule that was actually found in soil microbes, by the way.
	That wasn't synthetic from Big Pharma.
	That came from the soil.
	That's actually a molecule created in the earth, by the way, by soil microbes.
	And it kills parasites.
	So why does it, quote, cure COVID? Why?
	When its method of action is killing parasites.
	Interesting, huh?
	Interesting.
	By the way, I noticed that there are some ads from this group called the Wellness Company that's talking about how they've added Tamiflu to their kits.
	I guess people buy their kits of pharmaceuticals.
	It's weird that you have this company, the Wellness Company, that's actually selling a bunch of Pharmaceuticals to people.
	But anyway, they added Tamiflu to it.
	Well, guess what's in Tamiflu?
	Guess what Tamiflu is made from?
	It's made from pine needles that naturally contain a high level of shikimic acid.
	I talked about this a couple of years ago.
	And we actually ran shikimic acid tests in our lab with some local pine needles from Central Texas.
	There's a species of pine called loblolly pine.
	And so we just gathered up some pine needles and ran them through the lab and we're like, oh my gosh, we sort of contaminated the interface of the mass spec instrument because it contains so much shikimic acid that it took us a while to clean it out of the interface.
	It was off the charts.
	So you may know that Native Americans used to boil pine needles and then drink the pine needle tea.
	And pine needle tea is delicious.
	And it's naturally high in vitamin C, by the way.
	It was one of the sources of vitamin C that the Native Americans were able to get very quickly from their environment.
	Well, it also contains chicemic acid.
	Chicemic acid is the key ingredient that's used to make Tamiflu, the antiviral prescription medicine.
	And chicemic acid is also found in things like star anise, And it's also found in, what else?
	Fennel seeds contain some chicemic acid.
	But I think the greatest source is pine needles.
	And not cedar, not fir, but pine and only certain species of pine.
	So do your research.
	I do know that loblolly pine, that's L-O-B-L-O-L-L-Y, loblolly pine, or they're known as lost pines.
	In central Texas, because the population of pine trees got lost and separated from the other pine trees.
	Apparently, that's where it gets its name.
	It's kind of like an island of pine trees in central Texas.
	Those are the trees that burned up in the fires, the great fires of 2011, by the way.
	I think that was 2011.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, if you grow some pine trees, then...
	You have your own natural source of chicemic acid.
	And personally, I love pine needles for lots of reasons, and In fact, we have back in stock at healthrangerestore.com, we have pine needle nasal spray with silver and iodine.
	Now, just to be clear, I'm not claiming that this treats bird flu infections or anything like that.
	And this is not to be ingested.
	It's simply to rinse your nasal passages.
	But it's amazing because I mean, this is something that I use.
	Oh, I also forgot to tell you, I personally was involved in the harvesting of these pine needles.
	So these are loblolly pine trees.
	And I think I've shown you some photos or videos of some of the pine needle harvesting in the past.
	Yeah, I know I have.
	And we just go out there with some shears and we clip off some of the pine needles, a few from each tree.
	And we have permission from a landowner that's got a whole giant, massive acreage full of these trees.
	So we go out there, we collect them, and then we wash them.
	And then we put them in an ultrasonic bath that does the extraction, which pulls out The chicemic acid and vitamin C and whatever else is in there.
	There's lots of Really great molecules in there to give it the pine needle smell.
	And by the way, sometimes I just drink some of that.
	I mean, I'm not saying that you should do that.
	And that's not the way this is packaged.
	But sometimes I just make pine needle tea and I just drink it.
	It's very enjoyable.
	And you could add a little bit of palm sugar to it if you want to sweeten it up.
	But really, just make some pine needle tea.
	You could even boil some pine needles in water.
	And then chill that in the fridge and put a little bit of sweetener in it, like palm sugar, like I said.
	Drink that cold.
	Ooh, it's amazing.
	It's amazing.
	Natural medicine.
	And you don't need a prescription.
	You don't need to go out and even pay money for it.
	You can just get it yourself and make it yourself.
	But if you want it in a nasal spray format, we've already done this for you.
	With no claims of any kind of, you know, treatment of any conditions or disease or anything like that.
	Just a nasal rinse with silver and iodine.
	That's available now, back in stock at healthrangerstore.com.
	And, you know, the drug companies will say, well, our drug is better than shikimic acid because we alter it.
	So, okay.
	Yeah, I'm sure you do alter it.
	Maybe it shouldn't be altered.
	Maybe the pine needles are better.
	You know, maybe just straight up shikimic acid.
	Which has a very specific kind of flavor, a very pungent taste that's part of the pine needle taste and also part of the star anise taste.
	And I may have mentioned this before too, but there's a soup That I used to eat all the time when I lived in Taiwan.
	There's a soup that is made with star anise, which I think I recall in Mandarin, that's ba jiao, is the star anise herb.
	Which means, I think, doesn't that mean like eight arms?
	Yeah.
	But the soup is called niu rou tang mian.
	And it means beef noodle soup.
	And the star anise herb is the strongest flavor that's added to the soup.
	Yet, there's actually little floating star anise herbs in the bowl.
	That's how you know you're getting the real thing.
	And I've never had...
	Oh, and you put a little cilantro on top of that, too.
	I've never had soup anywhere in the world as delicious as...
	On the streets of Taipei.
	Like, there's nothing like it.
	And you can also get it without beef.
	You can get a vegetarian version just called Tang Mian, because the Niu Rou means beef.
	So if you're ever in Taiwan, stop by the street market, food markets in Taipei or any other city in Taiwan, and be sure to order Niu Rou Tang Mian.
	Which is beef noodle soup with star anise herb in it.
	And you will be consuming shikimic acid as part of your food.
	Very cool.
	Star anise is also used in a lot of traditional Chinese medicine, you know, TCM. So depending on what you're diagnosed with by a TCM practitioner, they would formulate certain Chinese herbs for you with all kinds of interesting things in them, sometimes like cinnamon, sometimes licorice root, sometimes star anise, and various combinations.
	And what's interesting is if you actually study the phytochemistry of the TCM formulas, they contain all these powerful antivirals.
	Such as shikimic acid.
	So there is a very strong molecular science basis to traditional Chinese medicine and other forms of herbal medicine that are practiced all around the world.
	Because these molecules are synthesized in nature.
	You don't need to go to a pharmacy to get powerful medicine.
	You just need to know that Mother Nature is doing it for you.
	Or you could jab yourself once a week with the Gila monster venom and then wonder why you're vomiting for two years straight.
	Hmm.
	All right, there's another story here that's pretty shocking.
	A million bags of organic tea from a company called Yogi, which has this echinacea immune support tea.
	It's an herbal blend, caffeine-free.
	One million bags recalled because...
	It contains, quote, pesticide residues detected above action levels.
	The recall number is F as in Frank-1237-2024.
	It's a Class 3 recall listed on the FDA website and covered across various media.
	Pesticide residues above action levels.
	Now, by the way, the FDA's action levels are pretty high, especially compared to the EU or Canada or Japan.
	In fact, the U.S. allows more pesticides in its food products than almost any country anywhere in the world, in some cases by orders of magnitude.
	So the fact that this product, which is certified organic and also certified non-GMO project, Or verified non-GMO project.
	The fact that it has pesticide residues above action levels is pretty alarming.
	And so it's a massive recall.
	Nearly a million bags, actually.
	It's 877,000 bags of organic Yogi Echinacea immune support tea.
	Now...
	I do want to commend the company for issuing the recall.
	I am curious how they found out about the pesticide levels.
	Because most companies aren't even testing for pesticides.
	Maybe the FDA tested it.
	Probably this is what happened.
	The FDA does surprise inspections of manufacturers, including us, by the way.
	The FDA shows up every once in a while and they say, surprise!
	We're from the FDA. And just hold on while we take samples of everything.
	And then they run around and they take samples.
	And then they say, okay, these are quarantined until we get back to you.
	And then that's the time usually when we explain to them, hey, we have our own mass spec lab and we're doing pesticide testing.
	We're testing for herbicides in particular, like glyphosate and atrazine, and we're testing for heavy metals, and we're also testing for microbiology.
	And here, here's our test results, and the FDA says, Sometimes they say, well, is your lab ISO 17025 accredited?
	And we're like, yep, here it is.
	Here's the accreditation certificates.
	Here's the inspection audits and the proficiency testing.
	It's called PT testing to prove that we know what we're doing.
	And then they say, okay, that's awesome, but we're going to test it anyway.
	Okay.
	So then we freeze these products for two weeks.
	The FDA does their own tests.
	And then two weeks later, They either send us an email or a call and they say, okay, you're good to go.
	Go ahead.
	You can now sell those products.
	Okay?
	So this has happened to us many times.
	Never had a problem.
	Why?
	Because we test our products first.
	That's why.
	And very few companies do that.
	So occasionally, the FDA, in this kind of spot inspection, they will find crazy stuff out there.
	They'll find high mercury in usually cosmetics, or they'll discover E. coli in somebody's peanut butter products.
	Or in this case, they found high pesticide levels In a certified organic non-GMO project verified product, which is echinacea immune support herbal tea.
	So what's the takeaway from this?
	So number one, USDA organic, even though I support organic foods, did you know that the organic certification does not require pesticide testing of the final product?
	Whoa, there's a Shazam moment for everybody.
	What do you mean?
	You mean if it's certified organic, you don't have to test it for pesticides?
	Nope, you don't.
	Because organic certification is an auditing and a certification of a process, not an end product.
	The process prohibits synthetic pesticides from being sprayed on crops.
	But the end product is never tested, not required to be tested.
	In order to qualify for USDA organic.
	And that's how this tea product was able to slip through with high pesticide levels.
	They don't even say how high it is, by the way.
	It's probably crazy high.
	To be recalled by the FDA for high pesticide levels, it's got to be like super crazy high.
	I don't know which pesticide they're even talking about here.
	They don't say.
	Maybe it's a combination of pesticides.
	Maybe they really mean an herbicide.
	Because some people use those terms interchangeably.
	Maybe it's some organophosphate pesticide or who knows what.
	But it's apparently there at crazy levels.
	So USDA Organic, even though it's a valuable program in some ways, it's not enough.
	And that's why we, at our online store, HealthRangerStore.com, we don't trust Something that's just organic.
	We test it on top of that.
	We test everything.
	We test all the raw materials, we test our products, and we even test third-party products, and we just don't offer anything that fails our tests, which are very stringent.
	And of course, we also test for heavy metals.
	Now, the other thing to realize is that this product is certified, non-GMO project, well, verified.
	Non-GMO project is also, I think, a positive project out there, but you should also know that it does not require any kind of testing for herbicides that are used on GMOs, such as glyphosate.
	So you notice that it doesn't claim that it's glyphosate-free or atrazine-free or even that it's been tested for anything like that.
	It just says it's caffeine-free.
	Okay, but what about the other stuff?
	So USDA Organic and Non-GMO Project Verified, these are very popular labels on a lot of food items, but they do not guarantee that those items are safe.
	In fact, this FDA recall would not have been initiated unless the product was considered unsafe for human consumption.
	This is exactly what the recall means, is that the FDA considers it to be unsafe for human consumption.
	And by the way, this company is known as EastWest Tea Company out of Eugene, Oregon, with its brand Yogi Echinacea Immune Support.
	Now, again, I'm not casting blame upon this company, Although perhaps this would be a great time for the company to begin testing its products before it puts them on the shelf, right?
	I mean, this is kind of a wake-up call, isn't it?
	Because when you buy raw tea, you know, dried tea leaves...
	You're usually buying them from places like India or China or sometimes Mexico or Turkey or places like that.
	But most of it comes from India and China.
	I would say the vast majority.
	How do you know that it's really organic if it's coming out of China or even India?
	But China is sort of infamous for counterfeit organic documentation.
	The stories I could tell you would blow your mind.
	And this is why we don't trust any suppliers, even in North America or Europe, although the European suppliers tend to be the most trustworthy, by the way, even cleaner than North America.
	But I don't trust anything coming out of China because I've seen too many cases of counterfeit documentation.
	Well, if you're a company selling a product...
	And you trust your suppliers because they sent you a PDF that looks good.
	Oh, look, it's all organic.
	Oh, look, we tested this pesticide and that pesticide.
	Look, it's all not detected, not detected, not detected, row after row after row, not detected.
	And you're like, oh, that's good.
	We'll just trust them.
	Let's just ship a million teabags to customers all across America.
	If you do that, you're going to get burned sooner or later, just like this Yogi brand just got burned.
	Because sooner or later, there's going to be something that shows up in your product because you didn't do the testing.
	And by the way, even if you do test as we test, there's always some possibility of something else in there that you didn't test for.
	Because you can't test for everything.
	You know, how many molecules are there?
	This is billions of different molecules.
	So you can't test for all billions of molecules.
	So you try to test for the most common things and then you develop trust relationships with suppliers, but you always verify that with more testing.
	That's what we do.
	Doesn't mean that everything's going to be 100% perfect all the time.
	But we have that layer of defense that we do the testing and our suppliers know that we do the testing so our suppliers do not try to pull the wool over our eyes because they know we're going to reject a lot and we've done that before.
	We've had them send us a lot That we put on the PO, it has to pass these stringent test requirements in order for us to accept the lot.
	And then they'll send us a lot, like a dirty, polluted lot of turmeric powder, for example.
	And then we test it, oh, high lead, guess what?
	It's out of spec.
	Do you want us to ship it back?
	You know, you want us to dispose of this?
	What do you want us to do?
	We're not paying for it.
	That's the way we work with vendors, which is also why some vendors won't sell us their product because they sell contaminated products to everybody else.
	I mean, seriously, there's a lot of dirty laundry in this industry as well as many other industries.
	But if you're not doing the testing, you've got to get burnt.
	And this company, the Yogi brand, just got burned.
	So they're eating massive distribution losses.
	And, you know, who knows what else?
	I don't know.
	They could face lawsuits from consumers who say, you know, oh, my God, I thought your tea was super clean and it's USDA organic, but it was contaminated with pesticides.
	They could absolutely face lawsuits for that.
	And then the question is going to be, well, where's your documentation?
	Start tracing origins of this and show me all your certificates and all the way back through the supply chain.
	And if you can't show that documentation that you engaged in due diligence as a manufacturer, you're screwed in a court of law.
	You're screwed.
	You might as well just start offering settlements at that point because you have to be rigorous about this process.
	I'm not saying that that brand wasn't rigorous.
	Perhaps they were.
	I don't know.
	But across the board in the food industry, if you're not rigorous and if you're not doing testing, you're going to get burned sooner or later.
	This is why we test also for things like aflatoxins for all the nuts and seeds.
	We test atrazine levels for certain products, and we're also about to roll out dioxin testing for any animal-derived products, such as cream powder, cheese powder, whey protein, things like that.
	And let me tell you, nobody in the industry that I've ever heard of does dioxin testing.
	And almost nobody even does pesticide testing.
	A few companies will do heavy metals testing.
	But aflatoxin testing is not very common either.
	Nobody's doing dioxin testing.
	And now I know why, because it's incredibly difficult.
	We're having to buy a lot of special, well, sample prep cleanup equipment.
	And one of the things is lipid removal in the sample cleanup.
	And did you know that one lipid removal cartridge for one sample, and you can only use it one time, costs $70?
	So...
	You're going to burn up a $70 cartridge to clean up one sample.
	That doesn't even count the instrument, which in this case we use a gas chromatography triple quad mass spec.
	So you've got to have the GC instrument, which is a few hundred thousand dollars, and then you've got to have all the nitrogen supply and the helium supply and the electrical supply, and then you've got to do your sample prep.
	So you have to have a pressurized heat extraction system, a sample cleanup system, an evaporator system, and all the other equipment, the pipettes and the fume hoods and everything that goes with it.
	And you also have to know what you're doing.
	You have to know how to use the software, how to read the peaks, how to discern all the different versions of so-called dioxins, because it's not just one molecule.
	It's a bunch of them.
	It's a whole spectrum of dioxins.
	I mean, no wonder nobody does it.
	It's expensive and it's difficult.
	But...
	I mean, I like to take on difficult challenges, and I'm a big fan of clean food and clean supplements.
	So if you want the most heavily scrutinized, cleanest food supplements and personal care products in the world, bar none, that's our online store, healthrangerstore.com.
	I guarantee that there's nobody on this planet that does as much rigorous mass spec testing on their products as we do on ours.
	Nobody even comes close.
	In fact, vendors even freak out when they hear about what we do sometimes.
	Like, sometimes we're about to carry a third-party product, and we explain to them.
	In fact, recently I had Daniel Vitalis on as a guest.
	He's from the Surthrival company, and we carry their Elk Antler product, which I think is out of stock at the moment, by the way.
	Probably is.
	And he told me in the interview, you may have seen it, he said...
	So your team, I couldn't believe all the detailed questions they asked me and all the documents they required and then all the testing that you did and how it caused this delay during all the testing and everything.
	But you could hear it straight from Daniel Vitalis that we do more rigorous testing and scrutinizing of the supply chain than anybody else that anybody knows in this industry.
	At least that I've ever heard of.
	If anybody's doing more testing than we are, tell me about them because I would love to have a conversation with them.
	Maybe we could share some notes on some methods or something, but I've never heard of anybody doing anything even close to what we do.
	Anyway, the bottom line is, USDA organic is not enough.
	A product that's certified organic can still be heavily contaminated with pesticides and herbicides.
	Exactly what just happened here.
	And also, non-GMO project verified...
	Although valuable is not enough either, it doesn't guarantee that the product is clean.
	And that's, most consumers, they look at these labels, especially USDA Organic, they think, oh, it's organic, it must be clean.
	No, no, no, no, no, nothing of the kind.
	It's certified without any testing.
	Most organic products are never tested for heavy metals or pesticides or herbicides or anything of the kind.
	So, important knowledge when you're shopping for food.
	Just because it says organic doesn't necessarily mean it's clean.
	But then again, it is better than buying non-organic because if it's non-organic, you can be certain it's not clean.
	You are absolutely eating pesticides and probably herbicide residue and who knows what else.
	So if you're buying conventional food, yeah, you're getting poisoned with every bite.
	No question about it.
	If you're buying organic, you're probably better off in most cases, but not all cases.
	And then if you buy organic and laboratory tested, well, that's the best that you can get.
	Still not 100%, by the way.
	There could be sneaky molecules that That aren't tested, right?
	But it's better than organic and it's better than conventional by far.
	And one other point here, there's also deliberate sabotage happening in the food industry.
	Do you recall the FDA recall a couple months back that they said that this cinnamon applesauce packs for children were being sold at these dollar type stores?
	And they found crazy levels of lead.
	I'm remembering it was either 5,000 parts per million or I think they said 8,000 parts per million in one of the samples of lead in a children's applesauce product with cinnamon in it.
	Now that's beyond insane.
	We wouldn't sell a product that even had one part per million lead in it.
	That's too much.
	These had 5,000 parts per million lead to be consumed by children who of course suffer neurological developmental retardation in the presence of lead.
	So lead causes mental retardation in children, right?
	And to some degree in adults as well, but especially in developing young brains, lead is incredibly toxic.
	And this is one of the reasons that lead paint was phased out over the years, because children would eat the paint flecks.
	And by the way, you know why children would eat paint?
	Because the paint tasted good to them because they were mineral deficient, by the way.
	A lot of people don't even realize that.
	You're like, why would kids eat paint?
	Because they're missing key minerals because they're living on processed food, by the way.
	And the body may be missing very important macro minerals like magnesium or even some trace minerals like chromium or maybe a little bit of copper or zinc.
	And The child brain tells the child, run around and sample everything with your tongue instrument, a little mass speck in your mouth, and see if you can find something that tastes good.
	And so kids, they eat everything.
	They sample everything.
	They put it in their mouths, right?
	And so they're eating paint because it actually tastes good to them.
	Again, that's what happens when you raise babies on infant formula that's made mostly with high fructose corn syrup and milk protein and just sugars and milk protein.
	That's mostly infant formula, by the way.
	I don't mean to get off on a tangent, but if you feed your kid correctly, your kid won't eat paint, it turns out.
	But anyway, they phased out lead paint because the kids were snacking on it and it was causing mental retardation.
	Which explains most of the United States Senate today.
	No, on a serious note.
	Or the President at the moment.
	No, on a serious note, there is food sabotage taking place.
	Somebody is running around dumping lead into products that are being sold to children across America.
	I don't know who's doing it.
	Might be an overseas operation.
	I don't know where those cinnamon applesauce packages came from, but I do know that turmeric comes from countries, many of them in Southeast Asia, where they use a form of lead during the peeling of the skin off the turmeric root.
	There's some kind of like a lead powder that helps with the peeling somehow in this sort of manual machine that they use because this happens in a lot of poorly developed countries.
	They grow a lot of turmeric.
	They toss some lead powder into this giant hand-cranked spinning vat machine and it takes the peeling off the turmeric and it leaves a more orange-colored turmeric root because lead has kind of a It has kind of a reddish, orangish color in certain chemistry.
	So it makes the turmeric look more orange.
	And then they dry that and they powder that and it makes a really nice orange turmeric root powder that's crazy high in lead.
	Yes, this is true.
	And then that gets imported into the United States and nobody tests it.
	And also it gets exported to countries in the Middle East and everywhere, because people eat turmeric everywhere.
	Everybody likes curry, it seems.
	So people are sucking down lead like crazy, not realizing that it's being added to the food processing steps for drying the turmeric.
	Like, seriously.
	But then on top of that, somebody's dropping lead into the cinnamon applesauce.
	Now, lead is easy to spot.
	I mean, if you have the right instruments, it's not a tricky thing to see.
	I would say that the heavy metals or elemental analysis mass spec instruments that we have, the ICP-MS, those are actually the easiest methods that we run, and they're very precise.
	Whereas liquid chromatography mass spec and gas chromatography, it's a little more wishy-washy.
	It's like plus or minus 30%, 40%.
	And the peaks shift around, you know, it's hard to nail down, but lead is easy to see, easy to get accurate numbers, easy to nail down, and it's a pretty short run.
	I think we have our instrument set up, it's like two and a half minutes per sample for a full spectrum analysis of many different elements, not just lead.
	But also nutritive elements as well.
	We test for zinc and copper and magnesium and others.
	But also toxic elements such as cadmium and, of course, mercury and arsenic as well.
	So all that takes only like two and a half minutes per sample.
	Once you get it set up and running, you've completed your calibration runs.
	So I don't know why more people don't test for heavy metals.
	It's relatively easy to do.
	I mean, yeah, you do need to work with nitric acid, which is nasty stuff.
	You do need a fume hood.
	You do need safety precautions.
	You need to vent your fume hood, obviously.
	But it can be done.
	I just think, I wish more companies did this, because who knows what's slipping through the cracks here.
	You know, the FDA issues these alerts.
	Like, whoa, crazy lead in children's applesauce, or crazy pesticides in the yogi tea.
	Or, you know, E. coli in the peanut butter.
	And what do they not catch?
	See, there's a question for you.
	Because I would imagine there's all kinds of things they don't catch.
	So wherever you get your food, your herbs, your supplements, get it from trustworthy sources.
	Not sketchy, super sketchy sources.
	Like, where is this from?
	It could be China.
	It could be Could be Bangladesh.
	Could be...
	We don't know.
	Well, is it real?
	Is this real turmeric root?
	Oh, it's real.
	Look how orange it is.
	Yeah, see?
	All right.
	Anyway, thank you for all your support over the years enabling us to run our mass spec laboratory, which we have been running now for...
	I think it's over...
	I think it's 11 years now.
	Since we acquired our first mass spec, yeah, it is 11 years.
	I think we started it in 2013.
	Because one of the mass spec instruments that we bought, the very first one, is no longer serviceable by the manufacturer because they phase it out.
	But don't worry, we have a newer version of it anyway.
	And we just have the old one as a backup.
	But Yeah, it's been over 10 years.
	So thank you for all your support.
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	Thank you for listening.
	Take care.
	All right, now we're going to jump into an interview, which you're going to find extraordinary.
	It's with author and researcher Dimitri Orlov.
	Who is Russian.
	He lives in St.
	Petersburg, Russia.
	He says that, I think he said he went to high school in the United States, and I think college as well.
	In his youth years, he was living in the U.S. He speaks perfect American English, by the way.
	He's a very high IQ individual.
	He's the author of a number of books that talk about the five stages of collapse.
	And I saw his interview on, what's the channel?
	Dialogue Works, I think it is, with Nima on YouTube in that case.
	And I was so blown away by what Dimitri had to say that I invited him on.
	And I hope I didn't frustrate him because I actually spent a little too much time ranting about what's wrong with America because I kind of got carried away.
	And so I apologize to Dmitry Orlov for that.
	I should have let him talk a lot more.
	I mean, he got plenty of time to talk, but I should have kept my questions shorter.
	And the thing is, I was kind of excited to have him on.
	I was a little bit giddy, actually.
	To be able to talk to somebody who actually understands or who sees the world in very much the way that I see it.
	And, you know, you might have experienced this with maybe occasionally you find somebody, you talk with somebody who actually gets it, somebody who's awake, somebody who's red-pilled, they say.
	Versus, you know, the average everyday conversation with just the monotone, oblivious masses who are just concerned about...
	Their fashion shoes and the next cruise ship trip they're going to take or whatever, and who don't know anything about what's going on in the world.
	And if you ask those oblivious people, like, so what are you doing for asset protection?
	They're like, well, I bought treasuries.
	You do know the treasury department is going to default at some point.
	The dollars will be worthless.
	And they're like, what are you talking about?
	Treasuries are the safest thing ever.
	Okay, so you're living in a different world.
	Actually, you're living in an oblivious pit.
	Well, so when Dmitry Orlov came on, I was just head over heels excited to talk to him about what's going on.
	Because America has turned into a suicide cult.
	And so has Western Europe and really all of Western civilization.
	And it's frustrating to me, as someone who loves the founding principles of America...
	I love my country.
	I mean, what it's supposed to be.
	I don't love what it has become.
	And I would love to see America restored to its greatness, to the values it once had, to the honor it once had, to the rule of law, you know, a system of justice that is fair and blind.
	Justice is blind, right?
	Supposed to be.
	In other words, it's not supposed to engage in selective prosecution against political enemies.
	Well, look at the DOJ now, right?
	Look at what they're doing to Trump.
	So I want to see America restored, but in order to do that, we have to be honest about what's wrong.
	We do need to point out these problems.
	And we also need to help warn our fellow Americans, or in my case, fellow Texans, about where things are headed.
	And I find it fascinating that a Russian man has a more clear perspective of what's wrong with America than do most Americans.
	Perhaps it shouldn't be surprising because an outside perspective, sometimes it's easier to have more clarity.
	Looking from the outside, not being daily inundated with all the domestic propaganda and all the lies from the Biden White House and the media.
	There's no inflation at all!
	They tell you.
	Meanwhile, you're paying, you know, double the price for steak or triple for shrimp or whatever at the grocery store and your car insurance rates have tripled and your health insurance rates have doubled or tripled and your government's telling you there's no inflation.
	But a lot of people are steeped in all that propaganda, the brainwashing, and so they lose the ability to think clearly.
	And there's also a sense that a lot of the collapse of the West is being normalized.
	Like, it's normal to be waiting for the subway train in New York or Washington, D.C. or wherever and to have somebody come up and throw somebody else in front of the train.
	It's like, ah, that happens every Saturday, you know?
	There's this normalization of insanity.
	Or if you're walking around San Francisco and you have to tiptoe around the human feces piles on the streets and you're around a corner and then there's needles and there's a bunch of hookers and there's drug addicts shooting up and then there's this half-naked dude taking a dump in a public trash receptacle on the sidewalk and you're just like, oh, another day in San Francisco.
	Totally normal.
	Or as I call it, San Francisco.
	See, there's this normalization attitude in America that because the collapse, like people are adjusting to the collapse in real time, that they're kind of beginning to get used to it.
	And as a result, they lose the perspective of what's happening.
	And sometimes it takes an outsider to say, wait a second, that's crazy!
	Like, what you Americans have done to your cities, to your country, to the rule of law, that's freaking crazy!
	And you know, right now, a Russian man can clearly see the contrast because he's walking around St.
	Petersburg, which is perfectly safe.
	And it's a clean city.
	You know, the underpasses are clean.
	They're not filled with graffiti and hookers and drug addicts and people trying to rob you.
	St.
	Petersburg is clean.
	Moscow is a clean city.
	The subways are clean.
	I mean, Russia is a safe city.
	I'm not saying it's perfect.
	Every society has its own problems.
	Every government has its problems.
	There's corruption everywhere in the world.
	But America's cities are collapsing, and much of American culture is collapsing.
	So anyway, Dmitry Orlov, this is a man worth listening to.
	And I just want to apologize in advance for how much I'm talking during the interview.
	I'll have to invite him back and talk less myself.
	But this is a truly fascinating conversation, one that I thoroughly enjoyed.
	And his books are available on Amazon.com.
	And he also gave...
	A web address.
	I think it's boosty.to.
	That's B-O-O-S-T-Y dot T-O slash Club Orlov.
	I'm going from memory and let's see if that works.
	Boosty.to slash Club Orlov.
	O-R-L-O-V. Yeah, here it is.
	Dimitri Orlov.
	So that's great that I was able to remember that.
	So he's got essays and books and you can also buy a subscription for like a dollar a month and help support his work.
	So anyway, enjoy this interview with Dmitry Orlov.
	And then I'll be back with you tomorrow.
	So take care.
	Welcome to today's interview on Brighteon.com.
	I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.
	And today, I've got to tell you, I have anticipated this interview with just a sense of actual excitement because our guest today is a first-time guest here on the show.
	His name is Dmitry Orlov.
	He is a very well-informed individual.
	He lives in Russia right now.
	He previously lived in the United States at various times.
	And he's the author of numerous books.
	Probably the best known is about the five stages of collapse.
	But this isn't just about his book.
	This is about his analysis of what's happening geopolitically, economically, and industrially in Western nations versus what's happening with Russia.
	And he's here today to speak to us about the collapse that is actually underway of the West, what that's going to look like, what are some of the signs that you can notice along the way, and where this ends up.
	And also why the West is uniquely more susceptible and more fragile to collapse compared to, let's say, the former Soviet Union.
	So welcome to the show, Mr.
	Orlov.
	It's an honor to have you on today.
	Great to be with you.
	Thank you for inviting me on your show.
	Well, thank you for joining us and for working your schedule so that we could do this because you are living in Russia right now.
	May I ask what sort of where in Russia do you live?
	Is it rural or urban?
	What's your setup?
	It's urban.
	I'm in St.
	Petersburg, which is second largest city in Russia.
	Five million people.
	And I live right in the center of it.
	Wow, okay.
	So, just to establish a little bit of your background for our audience, I hope I got everything right in the little intro there, but could you give us a little bit about your time in America?
	What's your area of study and expertise?
	And just a little bit about your history, please.
	I came to the United States with my parents.
	I was 12 at the time.
	I went through high school and college and university and Graduate School in the United States, worked in a lot of different industries, just a wide range of experiences, and then pretty much decided to give up on the corporate career right after I turned 40 or so.
	And ever since then, I've been writing books and blogging and Appearing in various places.
	I used to get invited to conferences.
	Now, back when the idea of the United States collapsing, just like the Soviet Union did, was funny.
	I was sort of a guest speaker at various venues, but then when it became serious, it became less of a joke.
	And I guess my message stopped being funny and they didn't invite me anymore.
	But I keep with the blogging.
	And now that things are not going very well in the United States and I have a family, etc., I decided to move back to Russia where things are...
	Happy and stable and prosperous.
	You don't have violent criminals and drug needles littering the underpasses under the roads there in St.
	Petersburg?
	Because we love that in America.
	That's part of the American culture.
	Yes, it is.
	And right in the center of a city of five million, I have a 15-year-old niece who is very pretty, who comes to visit us about once a week.
	In the evenings and walks home after that by herself.
	And that's considered perfectly normal.
	A perfectly safe place.
	Yeah, that would not be safe in any city in America.
	And actually, in most blue cities in America, she would have to step over human feces on the sidewalks in order to make it back home.
	But again, that's...
	That's what America has become.
	Let me mention your blog.
	It's at Boosty.to.
	That's B-O-O-S-T-Y. Boosty.to slash Club Orlov.
	And Orlov is O-R-L-O-V. Club Orlov.
	So you can check out Mr.
	Orlov's content there.
	And I love the fact, may I call you Dimitri for the rest of the interview?
	Is that okay?
	Absolutely.
	Okay.
	I noticed you're very prolific also with online interviews over the years.
	And I caught one of your interviews recently with, I think his name is, is it Nima?
	Is that his name?
	Yes, Nima.
	Nima.
	Yeah.
	He's got a great channel as well.
	Rarely do I listen to an interview twice, but I listen to yours twice.
	And it just struck me as so insightful what you were saying about how the West, the culture of the West, has become a culture of materialism and convenience and And as such, the culture is not prepared for collapse or hardship of any kind.
	Can you expand on that topic and comparing the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 to the collapse of the West that is underway now?
	And what are the cultural differences?
	What does that mean for the populations?
	Well, Russia is all about survival.
	Russians live in a climate that most other countries, Most other nations would not even consider inhabiting.
	In many Russian regions, the average January temperature is around minus 20, minus 40 degrees Fahrenheit.
	And that's much too cold for a lot of people.
	The agriculture in Russia is sometimes good and sometimes terrible.
	There are failed harvests that occur relatively regularly.
	And in general, it is a place that has a lot of resources, but they're rather diffuse.
	And the distances are absolutely huge.
	So given all of that, it is not a place where humans can survive without helping each other.
	And in Russia, help is mandatory.
	Turn down somebody who needs help.
	You can't leave people on the street.
	You cannot disregard people who are hungry or who have been hurt or anything like that.
	That is just not part of the makeup.
	Whereas the United States is really a place where people went to make money.
	And they still go there to make money.
	If there was no possibility of making money in the United States, a lot of people would leave.
	And in fact, some of that is happening already.
	A lot of the university graduates that used to find jobs in the United States after graduation are now heading back to wherever, mostly to China, Korea, Taiwan, where it's home and where there is better employment, better possibilities.
	So the United States is really fragile in the sense of it needs a prosperous economy just to survive, whereas Russia will survive no matter what happens.
	Even if there is no economy, people will still find a way to sustain each other.
	That's extraordinary because in a collapsed scenario, centralized supply chains no longer function efficiently or sometimes at all.
	And I think part of what you're saying is that in Russia, the culture is one of being able to have a network, a redundant network through which you can source necessary goods worldwide.
	Or services that you need in order to survive.
	Whereas in America, the model of hyper-commercialization of big box stores like Home Depot and Best Buy and what have you has obliterated local small businesses that used to provide that local network of redundant systems.
	Is that a fair statement of part of what you're saying?
	Well, yes.
	Well, the other thing is that the Russian government is actually pretty good at supporting the people.
	And one of the things that it does, one of the typical patterns is if private business does not serve a public good, it gets nationalized.
	And that is happening, that has been happening historically in various bad situations that the country has found itself in.
	And to some extent it's happening now where foreign companies Have been found to not serve the public good of the Russian people and are being nationalized.
	So that there is this fallback of public administration taking over for private enterprise and making sure that people are fed and clothed and housed and educated and all of the rest.
	And most of that is managed by the government In any case.
	And, you know, a lot of people over the years have asked me, well, do you really want the government to do all of these things because the government is so bad at it?
	And my answer is, well, not the American government, God forbid.
	But the Russian government, well, it muddles through somehow.
	No government is perfect.
	But the Russian government actually gets the job done much of the time.
	You know, it's so many areas that are interesting to pursue with you here, but one of them is the fact that in the West, this big lie that we've all been taught for generations is that the West is superior because it's engaged in free market capitalism, free market innovation and ideas, whereas we were always taught that, you know, the former Soviet Union, oh, that's centrally planned, centrally controlled economies that don't work, and that's why it failed, and that's why it's failing today.
	But now here, as a Texan myself, I look around, and number one, the free market is not allowed to function in this country because of incompetent, corrupt government regulation and punitive actions that selectively target businesses that, for example, speak out against the current regime in power.
	So there is no free market.
	There are winners and losers that are picked by the federal government.
	So The big lie also is exposed by the fact that if you look around society in America today, like we just talked about, the cities are collapsing, homelessness, tent cities, shanty towns cropping up everywhere, massive inflation, violence on the streets, people being thrown onto the trains and subway systems in New York and other cities.
	So right now, Dimitri, and this is why your message is so pivotal, The big lie is crumbling to our own eyes here in America.
	What do you say to that?
	Well, it's not the first time.
	I mean, if you ask the Native Americans, they've been pretty much decimated.
	There's been a continuous campaign to pretty much kill them off.
	If you look at what happened during the Great Depression and before that in the aftermath of the Civil War, There was no pretense of keeping people alive.
	After the Great Depression, even as wheat was being burnt and milk was being poured into rivers, people were starving with no effort being made to sustain them or keep them alive.
	Basically, America is not a place that takes care of people.
	America is a place that takes care of property and the property is of Of the right kind of person, let's say.
	It has inherited the class society of the old world.
	So basically the aristocracy, instead of having various coat of arms and insignia specifying its rank, just has dollar signs next to their name now, millionaires and billionaires, etc.
	But it's the same thing.
	It's basically, it's a country.
	It's not a country.
	It's a country club.
	It exists for the benefit of its owners, not the people who inhabit it.
	Absolutely.
	Well stated.
	Now, you're well known for your book, The Five Stages of Collapse, and I'm showing it here on Amazon.
	This is the survivor's toolkit of the five stages of collapse, and you have some other books here like Reinventing Collapse and so on.
	And I purchased these books.
	I haven't read them yet.
	Like I said, But can you just briefly tell us, where do you think that the United States of America is in the five stages of collapse?
	And what are those five stages, briefly?
	Well, very briefly, the five stages are financial, collapse, commercial, political, cultural, social, and cultural.
	In that order, I thought, but in the United States, they're They are occurring out of order so that financial collapse will actually happen last because of the use of the US dollar more or less as a weapon against other nations.
	The United States has been able to persist in a bankrupt state for a really long time and nobody can predict when it will come to a calamitous end.
	So it can actually hollow out its industry.
	Its political system can be a complete shambles, a corrupt scheme headed by a person whose brain doesn't work.
	And socially and culturally, the collapse has pretty much run its course.
	If you want to look at social collapse, visit your nearby shantytown, and cultural collapse, well, all you have to do is turn on the television set, watch it for a while, and And realize that there is really a culture except commercial culture.
	So if you don't want to buy it, there is no culture at all.
	Culture is supposed to be something that sustains people that they generate themselves.
	And here it's just a packaged product.
	Yes, well stated.
	And we see in TikTok videos or even on Twitter, X, you always see these video snapshots of what's happening across America.
	And it's this bizarre combination of violent rampages among the people combined with this gross incompetence and historical ignorance of the ruling class.
	And this is what disturbs me so much as an American.
	I mean, I love the concept upon which America was founded.
	I honor the founding fathers of America, and I believe in liberty and freedom.
	I mean, I'm gullible enough to actually still believe in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
	I still believe in it.
	But nobody else does who's in power, right?
	And they're stupid on top of that.
	The level of incompetence is stunning when I hear, for example, a member of Congress representing Houston, Texas, says that the reason...
	We haven't colonized the moon is because the moon is made of gases.
	And she says the surface of the sun is almost too hot to live on.
	And things like that.
	And then there's another congressman who was worried that if we put too many troops on the island of Guam that it might capsize and tip over.
	And these are people who represent us and they're idiots.
	They couldn't pass fifth grade science or fifth grade anything.
	With you looking at this as a Russian, what is your perspective?
	I mean, do you have idiots like this in Russian government too?
	Or is it just us?
	I mean, what do you think of this?
	No, they get tossed out of office in Russia pretty quickly.
	There's a Russian formula, which is loss of confidence.
	And that's all it takes for somebody to get jettisoned out of office.
	So If some regional governor loses Putin's confidence, he's gone.
	And there's a new appointee in his chair the next day.
	Who then gets to stand for election the next time the election rolls around?
	He doesn't get elected, too bad, gets replaced.
	So it is not a place where people can pretty much be from some A bailiwick and stick around in that bailiwick driving everyone crazy because they have a political machine that gets them re-elected.
	That just is not possible in Russia.
	It just doesn't happen.
	So it's a very different system.
	There's also a tradition in Russia where you have to actually do something before you go into politics.
	You actually have to be good at something.
	Traditionally, engineering, because it's a It's a culture that is very technical, and so technical professionals rise to the top much more easily than lawyers and financial types and other do-nothing symbol manipulators.
	You actually have to know how to get stuff to work before you get to tell people what to do.
	That's a fairly typical thing.
	I'm really glad to hear that.
	We have one member of Congress who is very intelligent.
	His name is Representative Thomas Massey.
	I believe he's of Kentucky.
	He's an inventor.
	He's got patents.
	He's an engineer.
	And he's sharp, right?
	But that's the exception to the rule.
	But let's talk about the result of the Russian people being very technically capable of And looking at the military technology, so I've pointed out many times how Russia is leading the way on hypersonic weapons development and actually deploying them effectively.
	Russia has innovated drone technology and And also working on autonomous AI-controlled land combat vehicles that have been at least demonstrated a little bit.
	And also electromagnetic warfare capabilities and anti-air defense systems.
	I think in all those areas, Russia is leading the world.
	And yet, in the West, what we have is this woke culture where...
	You get the job for being woke.
	So if you have purple hair and a nose ring and you're a transgender, you get the job.
	Where the guy who can actually do the engineering is passed over for the job.
	And that's why we have bridges falling down and hypersonic missiles that don't work and everything's falling apart in America.
	Do you see that the way I see it?
	Or do you have different comments or different views on that?
	Well, actually, it's a little bit more nuanced in America.
	So the lunch eaters, you know, the managerial class, they have to have the nose rings and the dyed hair and the surgically removed or attached genitals and whatever else.
	That's now a requirement, I guess.
	Having an interesting sexual life is possible.
	A requirement of some sort for any sort of a position like that.
	There's a quota for that sort of people.
	But when it comes to people who actually are supposed to get the job done, it's actually okay to hire white guys, but they don't know how to manage these white guys.
	There's no understanding of the fact that if somebody's job is to know all about some Some very crazy widget that only has one application but without which you can't get a weapon system to work.
	Then you have to guarantee these people lifetime employment because they will not invest tens of years of their life in studying this widget.
	And that used to happen in the United States.
	There used to be people who were basically, you know, lifers in an industrial or engineering But now what they do is they approve some weapons program and then, lo and behold, they expect competent engineers to pop into existence spontaneously.
	They have to be young and they have to have at least 10 years of experience and they can't be any older than 40 because at that age health insurance gets too expensive for them and their families and they don't work as much because they're older.
	And so the whole thing falls apart because nobody knows what's going on.
	So, you know, the United States tried to work up some sort of hypersonic weapon system.
	I don't remember its code name or anything.
	But first time it flew on an airplane and it didn't come off.
	They landed with it attached.
	The second time it attached and the engine didn't start and it dropped.
	And then It just goes on like that.
	So what they're good at is PowerPoint presentations, 3D models of things, catered lunches, get-togethers where you fly people from across the country to hobnob with each other and discuss weapons programs.
	But not so much when it comes to the development of the actual weapon.
	That is somehow overlooked.
	And then when it comes time to develop the said weapon, It turns out that even if they do come up with something, it's going to be at least 10 times more expensive than if the Russians or the Chinese make it much more fragile, much more maintenance intensive, and much harder to operate.
	All of those things are generally the case.
	And those are some critical points when you talk about the industrial output capabilities of nations and where Russia can manufacture a 152 or 155mm artillery piece for about $600, but the West spends about $6,000.
	And the West just can't output very much for all the reasons that you just mentioned.
	That's key.
	But I love what you said about how they...
	In the West, they love to fly people together and have meetings and have food catered in.
	I've been invited to a lot of such things.
	People like to get together and talk about big ideas.
	It's always a waste of time.
	And, you know, pardon my language, but I was thinking of doing a podcast called U.S., The Empire of Bullshit, because everything's just bullsh**.
	I'm tired of it.
	I'm a guy who gets things done.
	I'm actually building an AI large language model project.
	We've got banks of computer servers.
	We wrote all our own Python code.
	We're building free speech language models and we're giving them away for free on our website, brighteon.ai, for anybody who wants to check it out.
	But, you know, Dimitri, the only reason that that's getting done is because I'm the only one making the decisions.
	There's no investors.
	There's no consensus.
	There's no group.
	It's me getting s*** done.
	And I'm an alien in this country because there's just a culture of bulls*** everywhere.
	Everybody just wants to talk and have brochures and do marketing and brainstorming and nobody's doing any work anymore.
	And you can tell I'm frustrated about that, but that's what I see.
	Nobody wants to work in this country.
	Are you surprised to hear that?
	Well, what they call work is actually some kind of a social activity.
	And if there is no social activity, then they don't feel secure.
	They don't feel good.
	They get anxiety attacks.
	And they're just generally, they become useless and unpleasant to deal with.
	So you have to You have to coddle Americans in order to get them to do anything at all.
	I used to work for a corporation where I ran a team of developers, mostly writing database code for big applications.
	And I found that around the turn of the century, it became impossible to make people feel responsible for anything.
	So you couldn't really say, well, if you signed up to do X and you screwed up, then you failed and you don't get to try again.
	You get to do something completely different for a change.
	That's just impossible because, you know, this person that you just said is a failure is now hurt.
	You know, it'll require very expensive counseling.
	To get that person back online, etc.
	And that was happening for a while.
	So there isn't really any sort of feedback or discipline going on with regard to failure and the quality of the work and things like that.
	People started getting away with failure, basically.
	Well stated.
	People started getting away with failure.
	And I would say that in the two decades since then, the time period that you just mentioned, it has become so much worse.
	There's a culture of a neurological fragility.
	I'm really interested in your comments on this, and especially contrasting that to, do you see this in Russia at all?
	Because, see, my wife is from Taiwan, for example, and I lived in Taiwan before I speak a fair amount of Mandarin Chinese.
	And when I was in Taiwan in the 1980s, Taiwan was a very rigorous, studious country of industrialists, and they were willing to work, and they were innovative.
	I mean, I love the Taiwan people for that reason.
	But today, sort of the Western woke culture has been exported to Taiwan.
	And then Taiwan is increasingly like America, where now there's this hyper-privileged attitude, oh, we shouldn't have to work.
	We're consumers, not producers.
	And there's all kinds of LGBT themes and groomers and transgenders all over Taiwan now.
	So it's going in the same direction as America.
	But is that just an infectious cultural virus of the West?
	Or is that happening in...
	Is that happening in Russia at all?
	It's an infectious cultural virus of the West that has been blocked in Russia to some extent.
	Not fully, I would say.
	But the LGBT, I wouldn't call it a movement.
	It's more of an organization, non-government organization, international.
	That's been blocked in Russia rather successfully.
	Various types of efforts to corrupt the youth through the use of the internet mostly have been blocked to some extent, but not fully.
	Some inroads are still being made.
	For instance, YouTube is still active in Russia because the Russians, I guess, they have more important things to do than YouTube.
	But then there are people on YouTube who get paid by these Transnational entities that corrupt history, that basically present in a pseudo-educational context corrupt versions of world and Russian history with a certain agenda in mind.
	And that is quite insidious and that has not been dealt with yet.
	There's also...
	The problem that a lot of Russian educational materials have been corrupted by various Western grants and with the idea of basically dumbing down the Russian population so that all they could be would be basically people who could work on a gas or an oil pump for export and then be consumers of imported products.
	That was the plan.
	That plan has failed.
	But we still have this legacy of really, really bad textbooks all over the place and educational materials.
	And all of that stuff still has to be purged.
	And it's just a lot of work.
	It's like cleaning out stables.
	You have to carefully take apart absolute crap.
	You know, to figure out where the crap is and cut it out and leave maybe some useful stuff.
	And it's down to where even mathematics texts have been polluted with all kinds of nonsense and garbage.
	That's interesting to hear because, of course, that situation is extreme in the West where also children's libraries and schools are contaminated with Like gay sex guides for fifth graders and things like that.
	We have that problem in the liberal cities.
	But of course there's this mass dumbing down of the population at large.
	And we now have this movement in America, and this is at universities as well, where simply being graded on performance is now considered a triggering event.
	And so not only are grade...
	Guidelines being watered down substantially, where if you get 50% of the questions wrong, you get a C now in many universities in America instead of an F. In some places, they're just dropping grading altogether.
	And the result is that Coming out of the universities and schools in America is a class of people who, by and large, are unemployable by those of us like myself, who my companies employ a lot of people, and I can hardly find anyone who can do basic math.
	Much less logic or reason or anything like that.
	I mean, the American education system has been utterly decimated.
	Unrecoverable unless something dramatic changes.
	That's how bad it is here, Dmitry.
	I don't know if you knew that, but it's bad.
	There was a period of time in Russia where similar things were going on, and a lot of people went and got degrees in economics and finance and law, and they're now selling Selling cheap imported Chinese junk at open-air markets in a provincial city.
	Because that's how useful that education is.
	And that whole educational paradigm was very much inspired by Western influences and Western grants paid for those educational materials.
	And it's sort of a bit of a lost generation.
	You know, these people...
	If they have kids, then what can they impart to their kids if their own education was that bad and the result was that bad?
	So there might be even, you know, a lost generation and a half there.
	Oh, yeah.
	But it's being fixed.
	It's being remedied.
	Wow.
	Let me shift gears and ask you a different question.
	And I'm sorry if this sounds blunt, but hey, we're not holding back here.
	This is not a censorship channel.
	I'd like to ask you, in your view, are the Russian people aware of...
	The real aims of the West and how the goal of the West was to economically isolate and weaken Russia to use nefarious means to try to have an uprising to overthrow Putin and to install a Western puppet to rule Russia so that the West could then extract Russia's natural resources because that's a model that the West has done to many other countries all over the world.
	Is that common knowledge in Russia that that's what the West is trying to do?
	It's the message in Russia.
	It's It's something that is being discussed in great detail, dissected and analyzed on national television every day.
	Wow.
	And on popular and less popular blogs, etc.
	You can find all kinds of very intelligent analysis of the situation.
	The problem is that...
	It's very easy to corrupt the minds of the young who are not really equipped to dispute messages that are forcefully imposed upon them by people in authority, figures of authority.
	And what happened during the 1990s is that a lot of effort went into completely discrediting the Soviet system, Some of that was deserved and some completely undeserved.
	For instance, the Soviet space program was and remains excellent.
	The nuclear power program was and remains excellent.
	I could go down a long list of excellent Soviet things that are now Russian things that are still excellent.
	But there was a period of time when all of that was being discredited and people were told that Everything about the West is good and everything about Russia is bad and Russia should become like the West and just give up making its own stuff and import everything and just export oil and gas and nickel and a few other things and survive that way.
	And a lot of people's minds have been polluted with this ideology and there's really no way to Quickly and efficiently unpollute them.
	It's sort of like, you know, you have a cup of tea or something, and you put a teaspoon of horse manure in it and stir it in.
	Well, how do you get that horse manure back out?
	Right.
	Because you want to drink the tea.
	There's no way, you know?
	You have to start over.
	So the younger generation is much more...
	The people who are in school now, who are in grade school now, are much more capable of taking on board the message of Russia having friends around the world, lots of them.
	The majority of the world is on Russia's side, or at least neutral, than Russia having enemies.
	And these are not enemies of just Russia.
	These are enemies of most of the planet.
	The entire world is sick of America.
	You know, it's not just Russia.
	And so that message is sinking in, and it's sort of drifting down in terms of generations.
	So the older people who grew up during the Soviet Union, and they actually now understand what's going on.
	And perhaps understood all along.
	So they're easy.
	They're easy.
	And the young people, the school kids, are also easy.
	But then there is this grey mass of mentally deficient people in the middle who have somehow absorbed this Western liberal dogma and there's no way to get it out.
	Well, I think, I would imagine that situation is going to change dramatically as the collapse of the West really accelerates because it's going to be increasingly difficult to argue that the Western model is working when the cities are in a state of collapse.
	Crime is everywhere.
	I mean, California, every producer who can flee California is in the process of fleeing or has already fled California.
	And California is facing a massive budget deficit because of that.
	And this is happening everywhere.
	Americans are moving out of the blue states and into the red states.
	And so we're going to see a collapse of the cities.
	But also, I mean, a collapse of the value of the dollar.
	And globally.
	So let's segue to that.
	Let's talk about energy and currency and the BRICS currencies.
	I know you've talked about that.
	But Russia's gift to the world, and especially Western Europe, was Russia's willingness, one of many gifts, willingness to export affordable energy, clean energy in the form of natural gas, to power Germany's industrial economy.
	America comes along, blows up Nord Stream, the pipelines, proving that America engages in Terrorist acts of destroying civilian infrastructure and proving that America is the enemy of Germany.
	Not that Russia is the enemy of Germany, but America is the enemy of Germany.
	Germany is suffering today because America blew up its energy source, which was Gazprom, right?
	And along with that, then America weaponizes the dollar, as you said, cuts off Russia from the swift system.
	But as a result, America is isolating its own currency globally as other nations are seeing the theft of $300 billion of Russian assets held by most European banks now, seized, stolen from Russia.
	All the other countries around the world are looking at this and saying, why would we ever want to buy dollars or euros?
	Why would we want to do business with Russia?
	American banks or Western banks at all.
	So, energy and currency.
	Can you speak to those two things, Dmitry?
	Well, yes.
	There was a gigantic miscalculation made by the United States.
	The idea was that if the United States took over the Ukraine and made the Ukrainians behave so badly That Russia had to intervene to basically protect the lives and safety of its citizens living in the Ukraine,
	which number in the millions, then that would be the excuse to impose sanctions on Russia, which would devastate the Russian economy, bring Russia to heel, and cause the Russian citizenry to rebel and overthrow Vladimir Putin allowing the Americans to install a more pliable dictator in place of the elected president who
	would then basically do America's bidding from then on and hopefully make it possible to dismember Russia into lots of little insignificant helpless countries.
	That plan failed miserably because the Americans misunderstood this basic thing, which is that Russia kept the global economy growing by doing two things.
	First, by exporting lots and lots of energy to the West at reasonable prices.
	And second, by exporting much of the money that it made in the process to the West and investing it That's right, that's right.
	And so when those two things stopped, there was this complete incomprehension of, oh my God, what have we just done?
	We just cut ourselves off from our source of cheap energy, so now we're industrially non-competitive, and now we're short of money.
	Because even with Russia being this lifeline of both energy and money, energy and wealth, exporting its wealth, the West was barely taking over economically, maybe producing a return on investment of 1 or 2 percent, whereas in Russian industry, a typical return on investment of 20 or 30 percent is not unheard of.
	So basically, the West has completely cut off itself from the country that was feeding and sustaining it.
	And lo and behold, the Russian economy is growing faster than the world average and doing really well.
	And some parts of the Russian economy are just growing by leaps and bounds.
	Russia is no longer exporting too much of the raw materials because it has found that it can Process these into products and export the products for a lot more money.
	And that in turn shuts down a lot of German business and American business because it's no longer necessary.
	So it was a gigantic miscalculation, staggeringly huge miscalculation, basically handing to Russia a major victory and lots of territory.
	And lots of citizens who speak Russian.
	So that's really in a nutshell what has happened over the past decade or so.
	The weaponization of the dollar and the attempts to isolate Russia from Western financial systems, as you just stated, it caused Russia to then take its wealth generated from energy sales and to invest that more domestically.
	So to turn that money inward.
	And from that domestic investment, even in just the last two years, Russia has been able to grow its domestic industrial output significantly, especially military output, in a way that is dwarfing the aggregate output of all Western European nations combined and in some cases even the United States combined.
	Whereas the United States has chosen to outsource.
	The United States was relying on globalism and its navy to protect global sea routes in order to get cheap goods moved efficiently and quickly from point to point across the oceans.
	That model is now collapsing.
	In fact, as we're doing this interview, Dmitry, Joe Biden just announced, I think, tens of billions of dollars of new tariffs on China.
	Accusing China of, what do they call it?
	Excessive output?
	Or excessive production?
	This is the new Western term.
	You're making too much stuff, China.
	How dare you?
	How dare you manufacture goods?
	See, Demetri, this is what I'm talking about.
	This is what drives me bonkers.
	As an American, and I'm sorry to take up so much time, I'll get to my question, but as an American, I just want to compete on a level playing field with the world.
	I want to produce, I want to have innovation, ideas, creativity, patents.
	I can coexist in a world on a level playing field with Russians or Chinese or Koreans or Iranians or anybody.
	If we just have peaceful trade and ideas, we can all benefit.
	But I live in a country run by warmongering, psychopathic lunatics who don't believe in a level playing field.
	They want to bully the world, and as a result, they're cutting off their own necks in the process and bleeding this country out.
	That's what I see happening.
	I guess I didn't have a direct question in that, but what are your comments?
	Well, I see that happening as well, and I think that, you know, the horse has long left the barn and there's no way of catching it and chasing it back in.
	Basically, the United States has gone all in with financialization and this model of making stuff anywhere in the world where it can be made cheaply, not realizing that these effects, these economies, Are false economies and are temporary.
	That basically, fundamentally, you have to have your own productive population, educated, productive industrial workers, or you will not have an industrialized country.
	You will have tent cities, you will have collapsing infrastructure, You will find yourself incapable of maintaining the infrastructure that isn't collapsing, so it will collapse as well.
	And so the Americans are now finding themselves in a position where a bridge, you know, in Baltimore, that would probably take the Chinese, what, three weeks to replace?
	Or else?
	They're pretty much just talking about doing something about it.
	Finding somebody who might do it, the Army Corps of Engineers said that they can't, so now they're at a loss and they can't find a contractor who will handle that job of that level of complexity.
	Again, the Chinese would get it done in three weeks to a month.
	So that is happening in the United States, and because there was this idea that Other little people will do all of the dirty work for us and we'll just manage the money and we'll just have Wall Street and we'll just have big investment banks and all the rest manage it kind of top down.
	That has stopped working because you do have to have an educated and productive population Or you don't have an industrialized country.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	And you don't have a sustainable economy if you're just printing money, exporting inflation, and consuming the goods of the world.
	That can work for a little while, not for long.
	A couple more questions.
	The other thing is that the political class is very much addicted at this point to pretending that For the sake of their electoral politics, of their electoral posturing, you might say, of being abusive towards the rest of the world.
	With unilateral sanctions which are illegal, according to the UN. Only the UN Security Council has the right to impose sanctions.
	And various tariffs that violate the agreements that the US has entered into, World Trade Organization agreements.
	The U.S. basically is a very bad player, very bad boy in terms of how it deals with the rest of the world.
	And all of this, and especially the fact that the federal debt of the United States, the national debt, is unrepayable and is heading towards a cliff where The country will have to borrow money just to pay the interest on the outstanding debt and then will not be able to even spend the money that it is required to spend by law on things like Social Security.
	So it's heading in that direction.
	But most importantly, a lot of people are seeing that the United States dollar and treasuries as an investment are toxic.
	And the faster that countries get rid of them and instead pile up gold, you know, the better it will be for them when the final crash comes.
	I've been saying this for a while now that, you know, a moment will come when offering somebody a million dollars will just get you punched in the mouth.
	And that moment is coming.
	Well stated.
	Let me remind our readers of your books.
	The Five Stages of Collapse is what you're perhaps best known for.
	You've got other books, Reinventing Collapse, The Soviet Experience, and American Prospects, and so on.
	And your website is at boosty.to slash Club Orlov.
	Do people want to check you out there?
	And we're almost out of time to meet you.
	I apologize for venting so much here.
	But it's funny because you being on my show is so refreshing to me to be able to have a point of view outside of the muck of what we see domestically, where most of the people that I interact with are so brainwashed by American where most of the people that I interact with are so brainwashed by American propaganda It's like they're deep sea diving in a muddy pond and they can't see anything that's happening geopolitically.
	So having you on is refreshing.
	Let me ask you this one question.
	Are the Russian people, in your view, do they understand that, by and large, the American people, not the ruling class, but the people, they don't want a war with Russia?
	They don't harbor any hatred towards Russians.
	They just want to engage in trade and business with Russians.
	And even sharing cultural experiences with many nations around the world.
	Is that understood in Russia?
	Or do the Russian people think that all Americans hate them and want to kill them all or something like that?
	Well, it's a little of each.
	I think a lot of the Russian population is apolitical to some extent.
	So, yeah, they vote for Putin because that's a thing to do.
	Everybody loves Putin.
	Everybody votes for Putin.
	That sort of thing.
	But in terms of delving deeper into international politics, a lot of people just don't do it at all.
	For a lot of people, America is so exotic and so far away.
	You know, Russia is a country surrounded by lots and lots of neighboring countries, and a lot of them are You know, I don't mean to insult anyone, but more interesting than the United States!
	And the Russians are very attuned to a lot of things going around in their gigantic neighborhood that spans half the planet.
	You know, about 12 time zones worth of planet.
	A lot of them just don't really pay attention to the United States.
	What they're seeing of the United States, the tent cities and what they hear about the fentanyl addicts and all of that footage is something that makes them cringe.
	And I can sort of understand that because now I'm living in Russia.
	I've been living in Russia for quite a few years now.
	Very comfortable environment here, safe.
	Prosperous, comfortable.
	And then looking at what's going on in the United States is really cringeworthy.
	And I would go a step further and say that the United States is becoming to much of the world something of a mental health hazard.
	Something that you don't want to look at too much because you might not be able to unsee it.
	That's a really great observation there, and I agree with you on that.
	I mean, here I am in Texas.
	I'm armed all the time.
	I have a security dog here in my studio, a trained military attack dog, simply because of how crazy the world is, even in Texas.
	I can't, even as an armed man with a security dog, I still have to be very much alert and aware because crazy, violent, insane people could come up at any time and try to carjack you, for example.
	Now, they would get shot, obviously, but I don't want to harm my hearing by discharging a firearm in my vehicle, so I would rather that not happen.
	But that's the reality of what America has become.
	It's very sad.
	In conclusion, Dimitri, what do you think the American people are going to see in the next two years?
	I'm not absolutely 100% sure, but I have a very strong hunch that the U.S. federal government will become non-functional and that it'll be every state for itself.
	So accelerated secession, perhaps, or just anarchy?
	Chaos.
	The moment the federal government loses the ability to spend money the way it is doing now, it becomes a defunct state.
	And the United States becomes just states.
	Right.
	Yeah, that's probably coming.
	Anything else you want to state here as we wrap this up?
	And I really appreciate your time and I apologize for asking such long commentary questions.
	I won't do that again if we have you back, but anything you want to add here at the end?
	Well, I just want to thank you for the job you're doing.
	I really do want to remain helpful to inform people to the best of my ability.
	about what's really going on in the world because the US media is not doing its job at all.
	And so voices like yours are very important.
	Yes, thank you for saying that.
	And let me state for the deep state agents watching this program, I don't want to see America destroyed.
	I want to see America saved.
	But we must become aware, we must be honest about the problems.
	And that's why you, Dmitry, are so beneficial to this program to help point out from a fresh third-party perspective as a Russian, you can see more clearly what a lot of the American people can see because this s**t becomes normalized in this country.
	The stuff we're dealing with every day becomes normalized, and it's not normal.
	It's not normal to have pedophiles walking around the streets, kidnapping children and raping them, and it's not normal to have carjackings all over town and 60,000 Americans a year dying from fentanyl overdose.
	That is not normal, but it's become normal.
	We've got to stop it.
	Otherwise, I mean, well, like you say, America probably falls into the individual states.
	That's probably where this is headed.
	So thank you, Dmitry, for your analysis.
	Thank you.
	And by the way, you have great bandwidth, too, because, I mean, you're joining us from Russia, and this is actually only very few glitches.
	And by the way, you're the third guest that I've interviewed from Russia who has said how peaceful, how tranquil it is in Russia, and how affordable the land is there.
	It must be true.
	It is.
	Lots of Russians are just spending a bit of their savings and getting a huge chunk of land.
	That's a popular thing.
	Wow.
	That's unobtainable in America today.
	In any case, Dimitri, it's been a pleasure speaking to you.
	Thank you for your analysis.
	We wish you peace and please help spread the word Among your contacts in Russia, that many of us in America, we seek no war, no conflict, no hatred.
	We seek peace and trade with Russia and other countries around the world.
	That's the way I would like to see it happen.
	But we'll see.
	See where it goes.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	Thank you so much, Dimitri.
	All right, folks.
	Again, Dimitri Orlov has been our guest today, and his books are incredibly insightful.
	I encourage you, check out his books on Amazon, Barnes& Noble, and other booksellers.
	Check out his blog and his other interviews online, and feel free to share this interview.
	And again, the reason I have him on here...
	Again, I have to thank him for staying up late in Russia to join us, is because he can help point out the problems that we need to fix here in America.
	Do we want to have a constitutional republic that still is alive?
	We're going to have to change course, because right now where things are headed, with not just America, but all of the Western nations, it is a suicide cult run by incompetent maniac lunatics, like the leaders of Germany, for example, the leaders of France, the leaders of the UK. They're so incompetent.
	You know, they can't even make their aircraft carriers work, by the way, in the UK. The propellers don't turn.
	I mean, come on.
	It's a clown show.
	We've got to fix this, and it's going to mean putting competent people in positions of authority and power, people who can make good decisions and get things done.
	That's what I support.
	So God bless America, but let's fix America.
	Thank you for watching today.
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