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April 12, 2024 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams

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Decentralize TV – Revolutionary author Cory Endrulat on ending tyranny and the modern slavery of all

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	Thank you.
	Welcome to today's episode of Decentralized TV here on Brighteon.com.
	And folks, we have a really special guest for you today.
	But quick note, Todd Pitner isn't joining us for the interview.
	He'll be with us in the after party, which we're going to be recording separately.
	But our guest today is actually a friend of Todd Pitner.
	And his name is Corey Endrelott.
	And he is a modern abolitionist.
	He's an author.
	He's an advocate of health and nutrition.
	Welcome, Corey, to the show today.
	It's great to have you on.
	Thank you, Mike.
	I really appreciate it.
	I told you I've been following your work since I was about 13, so that's about 10 years ago now.
	You know, it's 2024 now, New Year's.
	Wow.
	And so, yeah, I got your shirt, got your book over here.
	I got Ranger Buckets.
	It's very important that people are prepared during this time.
	I came to Florida, lived in Pennsylvania all my life, came here, started getting prepared, started growing food, started connecting with the food forest communities, people like Jim Gale from Food Forest Abundance.
	He's got 50 acres.
	He's creating a Abundance.
	He's got Airbnbs.
	And I'm going to create that same thing here in Central West Florida around Tampa.
	So if any of your listeners are out there and they want to get involved, I welcome you.
	And if anybody wants to be a content creator, I welcome you as well.
	I want to provide people with the resources and really take up the reins of what you and people like Alex Jones have started for the past 20, 30 years.
	I wasn't alive in the 90s.
	You guys were doing this in the 90s when I wasn't around.
	Yeah.
	We've been doing it a while.
	That's true.
	I was born in 2000.
	We welcome you to the ring of truth here.
	We welcome you to Team Humanity.
	You're so young.
	You're clearly decades ahead of your time.
	I look at today's youth and I'm not that impressed with most people.
	But then again, I'm not impressed with people of any age, frankly.
	But I love connecting with people like you who get it.
	And your enthusiasm is already very apparent.
	Let me give out your website so people can While they're watching along here, they can check out your website, and that is theliberator.us.
	Is that right?
	Yes, that's correct.
	And it's a one-stop hub for everything, freedom, action.
	I have it all set up for people.
	We have a quiz you can take if you want to challenge yourself or others.
	We can do testimonies, interviews.
	There's a networking page for in-person or online.
	There's an events page.
	We do articles, a weekly newsletter.
	I'm trying to put basically everything in there because I produce content and put it in every single medium for people because everybody likes to digest information in different ways.
	This one is so true.
	My government must function as a violent religion.
	Now that, we're not paraphrasing there.
	We actually have quotes from Carl Jung in that article.
	We have a whole series with Dr.
	Carl Jung and his analysis on the state and how it operates.
	And you'll be surprised to hear what he has to say in his last book, The Undiscovered Self.
	This is the book he wrote before he died.
	And it is amazing.
	The amount of wisdom that we are finding in the writers of the past, even people like J.R.R. Tolkien, the writer of The Lord of the Rings.
	He had immense wisdom going into writing that movie and his books.
	You start looking at his journals, what he published, like some of his notes, his letters to his son and to his family members.
	You start realizing, wait, he knows a lot more than we think.
	It's amazing what these people know.
	And so we're basically bringing all this to the surface.
	I want to fill in the gaps of what isn't being talked about, what needs to be talked about.
	And that's what I want to share with you, Mike.
	I shared that humanity is enslaved and many people will say we're at war.
	Well, we are, but it's even more with ourselves.
	And this is why I got into psychology with Dr. Carl Jung and started talking about morality and philosophy.
	It was only a matter of time.
	In 2016, I supported Trump.
	I was a very big Trumper.
	I was holding open the door at the polls.
	I had the water bottle.
	My dad claimed to work for him.
	I had the shirt.
	You know, independent media, a lot of independent media, I mean, if we look at it, they were very supporting the right wing at that time.
	And so I could defend Trump with every little argument, and there's still people who are stuck on that.
	But I'm a truth seeker.
	I don't just stay at politics.
	I realize it's much more than that.
	I don't stay at just our country.
	I realize our country is the world.
	Our countrymen are mankind.
	We need to free humanity.
	Like you said, team humanity.
	Yeah.
	So for me, I am taking up the reins of what you have started, but I want to make sure that we are successful moving forward.
	So I am here for this next generation and the generations to come.
	You've laid the foundation, Mike, and I appreciate your work.
	Now we need to move on and really make it happen.
	Well, that's the thing.
	We're always, you know, passing the baton from generation to generation.
	Like, my work stood on the shoulders of other giants before me.
	And even, you know, some of the people that I interviewed today, like Steve Quayle, you know, he was...
	I mean, I just interviewed him last week, but he's also been doing this since the early 1990s, even before I got started.
	But that's the beautiful thing about this is that our work is timeless.
	And the principles of natural law, which I know you're a student of, those principles are also timeless.
	In fact, let me ask you to talk about that for a moment, because I've always believed that morality could actually be derived from observing nature.
	And I'm a very keen observer of nature.
	And I walk and work in nature every single day, like literally without exception.
	And nature has taught me a tremendous number of things, whereas human society is filled with so much deception, nature is filled with so much truth.
	So what are your thoughts on nature and natural law?
	Yes, well, it has gone through many different names throughout the ages, right?
	It is not just this term, natural law.
	It's been said as karma in the past.
	It has been said as the golden rule, the law of attraction.
	And you can see through every culture, they have a version of the golden rule, whether you're looking at Buddhism, Taoism, Hinduism, Christianity, you name it.
	And they all basically say this idea of doing to others what you want done unto you and this reprocity that you find within the world where what you're putting out into the world becomes in manifest.
	As many people now have a certain mindset, certain actions are then going to be created and then hence a certain world will be created in response.
	So it's all about cause and effect.
	Some people will just call it law of cause and effect.
	These are natural laws because they can be observed everywhere.
	And so when we're looking at natural law, typically what most people refer to as natural moral law, they're applying it in the context of behavior.
	So they're looking at morality, like you mentioned, and some will call it objective morality.
	But whether you call it objective or not, there is a very dangerous superstition that's being, well, holding ourselves back from embracing the golden rule.
	We've taught the golden rule for thousands of years, but we've never actually really practiced it as a human species.
	And I think this is a big reason why we are enslaved as I say we are.
	Well, what's the superstition that you're referring to that's holding us back?
	Well, there's an author called Larkin Rose, and he wrote a movie recently called The Jones Plantation.
	I recommend everybody looks this up if you don't know about it.
	And I would actually encourage you maybe interview him because he's an amazing individual.
	The Jones Plantation, it was a really well-produced movie, and I've never seen anything like that.
	But he wrote a book also called The Most Dangerous Superstition.
	And that superstition is something called statism, which I don't hear being talked about in the majority of independent media.
	People like Derrick Rose, Jim Gale, Mark Passio, and Larkin Rose know about it, and they talk about it.
	But it's just starting to be talked about.
	And see, when I was in that political world in 2016, I had no clue about it.
	I wasn't looking at morality and psychology and questioning myself.
	I was looking up to who can save me from the world.
	Let's put this savior figure, this politician on the stage and say, okay, they can change the laws, change the system, make a better system.
	But what if the system, which is created by us, we say it's we the people, what if we need to change ourselves?
	What if we need to evaluate our own mind, our own morals, and see if we are contradicting the golden rule, for instance?
	Because natural law has given us the result of chaos, of division in the world that we see right now.
	I mean, you can look at many of the interviews you've done, right?
	There's a lot of problems in the world.
	This is the result of many people following orders, turning down their conscience, and just doing what they're told.
	That is what statism is.
	It's the belief in authority that other people have more rights that you do not have, that you are basically exempt from morality, that you can give people, like, say you put on a crown and a uniform, and now all of a sudden...
	They're not just a human being.
	They can now do acts of atrocity like we've seen in World War II, where, hey, I have the right to take you from your home, put you in a concentration camp, or put you in a gulag because I'm an authority figure.
	I'm sorry to interrupt, Corey, but I've never understood this worship of authority.
	It has never made any sense to me.
	I've fought against it my entire career, and I still see today this insane obedience to authority, even when those authorities are clearly incompetent, ignorant of history, evil.
	But people say, well...
	Well, I have to take the vaccine because my pastor at my church told me to take the vaccine.
	That's a great example.
	It's like, well, your pastor, did you ever think he might be working for Satan, you know, for example?
	I mean, oh, no, you can't say that.
	He's my pastor.
	Oh, well, then there's your barrier.
	That's your problem.
	And you may pay for that lack of understanding with your life, by the way.
	There's a great example.
	Yeah, and you can look at the hermetic principles, which are also known as universal laws within creation.
	One of them is the principle of correspondence, as above, so below.
	So if you have individuals that are obeying the experts and say, well, the experts know what is safe for me.
	They're going to determine for me what's healthy for my own body.
	What you have is this world of people that will look up to politicians for their own life, will look up to doctors for their own health, We'll look up to all these people that they perceive to be authority figures, and they'll never actually take control of their own life.
	They'll never actually own themselves.
	They will make themselves their own slave.
	It is no wonder why Martin Luther King Jr.
	and Mahatma Gandhi and Carl Jung all talked about mental slavery being the worst, most dangerous form of slavery.
	Now, I correlate mental slavery to this belief system called statism because it's exactly that.
	It's you believing you need to be a slave, that you should have this servitude.
	Or even that you want to enslave your fellow man.
	Because that's what it comes down to.
	Love thy neighbor.
	You can't serve more than two masters.
	This is in the Bible.
	Even Christians contradict their own teachings.
	We all are contradicting what we say that we want in the world, but we don't realize it.
	And this is that unconscious shadow, which is why Carl Jung often talks about shadow work.
	And that's a painful process.
	Enlightenment.
	It may not be a very smooth, nice unicorn, rainbows process like the New Agers might make it seem.
	No, it's a hardship process of getting down to our traumas and our fears and realizing we were programmed into this mess since we were a child, into the schooling system that was based on the Prussian model of schooling that was designed intentionally to teach obedience to authority.
	So we're trained into that belief system.
	What's so fascinating to me, I agree with everything you just said there.
	What's fascinating to me is that people who, in their own personal behavior towards others, they may exhibit morality and ethical boundaries.
	Like, they would say to themselves, well, I don't have the right to murder that person.
	But then when they delegate that power to a government, then they say, but the government has the right to murder those people.
	It's the same person.
	It's the same person.
	And they consider themselves good people, but they say that this authority has the right to bomb these people like what's happening right now or to murder these people or to take these assets from these people, to steal, to confiscate.
	It's like, how is it that this worship of authority just twists people's minds up to where they abandon their own principles?
	Yeah, it's a contradiction.
	And this is why it's a superstition.
	It's been held for thousands of years, so people have accepted it.
	It's like, oh, well, we've always had this type of system.
	There needs to be an authority figure.
	There needs to be that government that which we worship.
	And we do worship it as a religion.
	Some people call this the most dangerous or the biggest religion because there are symbols.
	There's text.
	There's holy text, the Constitution.
	It's a presidential seal.
	Yeah, and you can see they take photos of presidents and they put, like, the sun behind them.
	I mean, it's very weird stuff, right?
	No, they have, like, a halo around the heads of all the presidents, yeah.
	Right, and you can find photos of this online.
	This is not hard to find.
	And you can find everything I'm saying is all, you know, confirmed.
	And even a psychological experiment, which is banned in most of the world, the Stanley Milgram experiment.
	Oh, yeah.
	Right?
	And this is, and written by a doctor, he also wrote a book about this, Dr.
	Stanley Milgram, he basically had average individuals electrically shock their fellow man because an authority figure tells them to do so if they get a question wrong.
	Now, the person isn't actually getting shocked, but they scream out in pain.
	And the average person is still willing to electrically shock their fellow man just because they're told to do so by an authority figure, even to the highest voltage.
	And they had a percentage of about like 95 percent of people were willing to do it, even if the person was screaming, saying, we got to stop this.
	I'm in pain because the authority figure said, no, we have to do it.
	It's just an experiment.
	Don't worry.
	And, you know, the person is not getting hurt or anything.
	They believe in that so wholeheartedly that they actually just throw their conscience, their morals out the window.
	So you're right.
	It's this contradiction.
	And it's really tricky to understand that first.
	When I had to understand it, I went through a week of crying and I'd ask myself questions, questions from I don't know if you know who High Impact Flix is, Brian Young.
	He has content.
	I'd say he's a one-man show in independent media.
	He had the top 9-11 videos online for the longest time, 12 million views each.
	I mean, he's a great guy.
	And he's somebody who put out a video one day asking these questions, and that really made me think as somebody who was a statist, somebody who was in that political system, and I believed in Trump, and I was like, oh, the left and all this.
	I was creating this division I didn't see.
	I was contradicting my morals, and I didn't see that.
	I didn't want to confront myself.
	I wanted to point the finger somewhere else.
	And this type of psychology is not necessarily talked about anywhere in independent media from what I'm concerned.
	But it's growing because people are seeing the importance.
	That's why you have events like Anarco Poco, and you have that in Mexico, and then you have new locations being made in Arizona, I'm hearing, Arkansas, and Florida here with Jim Gale, what we're doing, Path to Freedom.
	We're creating the solutions, No longer are we dwelling on the problems.
	No longer are we feeding into the game, into the divisions.
	We are becoming self-sustainable.
	We're creating the systems that we want to create that are voluntary, that are not based on violence, and that is the way forward, voluntarism.
	And you know, John Bush and his Freedom Cells, right, teaches a lot of the same thing.
	And, you know, I've had him here in studio.
	And apparently I'm going to be speaking at his event next year as well.
	But I completely agree with what you're talking about and what he's doing.
	And I just want to remind our audience here, you know, this show is called Decentralized TV. This is about decentralized living.
	And There is no more important mechanism of taking back your power from the centralized authority than to take back your mind.
	I mean, you know, we can talk about crypto, but there are still, believe it or not, there are still thinkers, even in the Bitcoin community, that are very much status, right?
	They think the government has the power to regulate, the government has the power to tell us what to do, that we don't deserve to have our own monetary exchange system unless we're given permission by the government.
	They believe that.
	I mean, not most of them, but a lot of them still do believe that.
	Now, The real freedom-minded people are more like privacy, Monero, let's say, or other alternative privacy coins.
	They're like, no, we don't need government permission in order to exchange value with each other.
	We don't need government permission to grow our own food.
	We don't need government permission to practice medicine with ourselves, for example.
	And that's always been my position.
	I don't need an authority figure to tell me how to think and what to do.
	In fact, usually if I listen to them, they make my situation worse.
	Right?
	Right.
	Yes.
	We're evolving.
	The human species is clearly evolving, and you said that in the very beginning, that we are moving on this trajectory.
	You can see it from the Founding Fathers.
	They said, okay, we're done with the king and queens.
	We're done with monarchy, right?
	We're done with this.
	This is all a facade.
	We're done with this.
	Let's set up our own system.
	So that was like a bridge, a stepping stone away from what was done for thousands of years.
	Somebody in that moment could have said, well, we've always done it, so let's keep doing it.
	But no, that was a stepping stone.
	Then what happened after that?
	The abolitionists from the 1800s, which is a particular focus of mine because their works is amazing.
	I had to go to the back of some libraries to find their public works because they're hidden in the back of some university.
	But they're amazing.
	Their writings are very passionate.
	And this is people who are doing exactly what I'm saying right now.
	Using what they call moral suasion, helping individuals learn from their own conscience and see their own contradictions.
	Like you said, people are against violence, but they're okay in this scenario or that scenario.
	What's going on?
	So they saw these contradictions and they just pointed them out.
	That's all they did.
	And some of them were very strictly pacifist.
	A lot of them were like Christian.
	Some of them were deist.
	You can look up individuals like Lysander Spooner.
	Fantastic writings on natural law, the constitution of no authority, no treason.
	He was a lawyer.
	He set up his own post office, got shut down by the U.S. government because they want to have a monopoly on postal service, right?
	William Lloyd Garrison, a lot of people know about him as being the forefront of abolitionism, his motto for his newspaper.
	Our country is the world.
	Our countrymen are all mankind.
	He said, we do not owe allegiance to human governments.
	We owe allegiance to God's government.
	That's the reason why slaves need to be freed, because their true master is not of this world.
	It's of God, right?
	So they used God as the argument against the systems that be.
	And that's why—and that even correlates with what we talked about with Carl Jung, because in his last book, he also talks about the strongest bulwark against the state and government is God, because you're recognizing a higher authority than man.
	The same way we might understand natural law is above man's law.
	So when you start opening your mind and see, perhaps you can say, a greater consciousness, you see the bigger picture.
	And all I can do is ask questions and make you think, right?
	But you have to think for yourself.
	You have to do this work for yourself.
	You have to go to your neighbors and talk with them and just ask questions in particular.
	I think that's a whole other conversation is how do you talk to people?
	Because in this community, we want to share truth.
	We want to say, you're enslaved.
	You know, you got all this vaccines and all these injuries and all this poison in the air and the water and the food.
	And I agree.
	But a lot of people are not there yet.
	And there's a process for them.
	And there's something small that might have to just...
	Wake up for them.
	It could be a life experience.
	It could be something.
	But you're not going to convince them by talking to them for an hour or two hours or lecturing to them.
	There needs to be a Socratic method.
	Or Larkin Rose, he has a whole seminar on this called Candles in the Dark where he teaches people how to talk to others.
	Interesting.
	Because it's true.
	This is something that a lot of people in our communities struggle with is how do we talk to others.
	Well, that's a really great point, Corey.
	During the COVID years, we really saw on display the limitations of the reason in the minds of people who went along with everything.
	They went along with the masks, the vaccines, the lockdowns, and they appealed to authority.
	They would say things like, I believe the science.
	Well, they've never read the science before.
	And a lot of doctors came out.
	A lot of doctors came out warning about the system.
	And I welcome those doctors.
	I have a huge medical project I'm working on with a bunch of physicians to really get in detail with this mindset.
	We're using somatic experiencing.
	We're looking at polyvagal theory.
	We're looking at a bunch of psychological tools and looking at many different psychologists throughout the ages to really hit the nail on this belief system, which also the medical establishment completely ignores.
	This is the way I look at it, Mike.
	I'm not just healing the individual body.
	I was a health coach, and then I moved my priorities to looking at freedom because if we actually want to heal humankind, we have to be free.
	And this is something everybody in the medical profession needs to realize, which is why I appreciate your message.
	It's like nature and natural medicine, but not just that.
	Freedom.
	Because freedom has everything to do with health.
	If your body is being taken over by an illness, a disease, you're not free inside your own body.
	So it really has to do with freedom.
	And I welcome anybody who's a medical professional out there to reach out to me because we're reviewing a bunch of science that we have gathered over the past year or so on this topic, which, again, we feel like it's just not being addressed.
	You can look up something like democide, the top cause of unnatural death.
	It's known as death by government.
	And I know if you've written articles about this, over 200 million deaths in the 20th century alone.
	262 million.
	Yeah, and it's not even counting even more than that throughout the ages, and the numbers are staggering.
	And then you can look up something like menticide, right, or mass psychosis or mass hysteria, and you start to see there is a pattern happening here of there's this mindset that is in human beings that isn't being addressed.
	So we're not just looking at healing the body, we're healing the world.
	No, exactly.
	I came to the same conclusion very early in my own career.
	I started as food and nutrition and very quickly came to realize you have to talk about human freedom because otherwise, if someone appeals to the government, the government's going to eventually tell you that blueberries will kill you and you shouldn't eat them.
	It's just like they say ivermectin is bad for you, even though it's a life-saving medicine that has already proven itself over many decades.
	But you have to talk about freedom.
	You can't have health without freedom, but the freedom to think.
	But what I want to ask you on this point is that I'm involved in an AI large language model development program, and we're building language models internally.
	And the more that I've studied this, and the more I've come to understand the process of training a neural network, how to learn new information in a machine, The more I've come to realize that the people I call the oblivious masses, they are mindless biomachines that simply regurgitate through their own linguistic neural networks the exact same material that has been thrust upon them through CNN or government authorities or Google or Wikipedia
	or what have you.
	So I think, and I want to ask you about this, Corey, but I mean, one of the key missing components in those oblivious masses is the ability to think above the information that they're just regurgitating.
	Like, anybody can just...
	I mean, a machine can regurgitate information.
	But to think beyond that, to transcend that, that's uniquely human, and yet most humans are not being human.
	That's my point.
	They're acting like machines.
	Very big.
	Yes, indeed.
	And actually, I wrote a book on this, my most recent book on Taoism.
	I don't know if you've ever heard of the ancient philosophy on Taoism, talking about, essentially, our nature and how we can lose that.
	They saw this in ancient times, a writer named Lao Tzu and Xuanzi.
	And I know that you have a Qigong course happening as well on Breitian University, which is awesome.
	What's the title of your book though?
	Hold it up again.
	It's called Tao, T-A-O, The Full Return to Nature.
	Now this, in my view, is the first ever liberty philosophy that we can have on the date.
	Yes, before the Founding Fathers, before...
	Yes, and it started in China, you know, of all places.
	Well, they saw, the people who found this philosophy, they left China.
	They saw it was going in a bad direction in ancient times.
	They saw, hey, once we start introducing these ideas of, you know, authority in the minds of people...
	Now there was greed.
	Now there was all these problems that weren't there before.
	Before we lived an agricultural life, nobody really cared what anybody else believed.
	Just leave each other alone, right?
	And so that's the idea.
	Can we create a voluntary world where we trust people rather than having this world of Well, you know, let's compete because we see other people as more special than other people.
	And this type of inequality, you know, you see it being parroted and feminism and social justice movements nowadays, but they're not talking about this belief system.
	They're not looking at the universal principles that I'm looking at.
	I'm talking about true tolerance, true equality, which is allowing your fellow man to live his life as he chooses, so long as he does not harm another individual.
	And they understood this in ancient times with the simple text of Tao Te Ching, which is the second most translated text in the world after the Bible.
	But yet most people in the West are unfamiliar with it.
	And I encourage that people do become familiar with it, because there are powerful truths about our nature.
	Everything has to do, my main message is nature is the answer, right?
	I have a website, nita.one for that, nita.one.
	It's all about keeping our humanity because that's what I've realized.
	If I had somebody ask me, what is the root cause?
	What is the main thing?
	It is about our nature because every aspect of human life is being denatured or attacked at some level, whether it's medicine or health or law or all of it.
	But I'm trying to get to the root cause as a medical practitioner, right?
	I want to be somebody who tries to find the root cause and looks at the bigger picture.
	So I have identified it as statism.
	And I've identified generally the solution as voluntarism, allowing people to live voluntarily.
	So that being introduced is very important for me.
	But these ancient philosophies, I mean, you can even go back to ancient Christianity, and they've talked about it too.
	Jesus was killed by his own government, you know?
	And there's many examples of people throughout history who have been killed for speaking out, for speaking the truth, or just thinking for themselves.
	And that's it, thinking for themselves, just being who they naturally are.
	Isn't that crazy that people just can't live, simply live, who they want to be?
	I come into this world, and I don't know anything about the systems that be, and I walk on the wrong side of the road, and now I'm penultied, and I can go to jail if I resist, even though I'm choosing what to do with my own body.
	I'm not harming anyone.
	There's no victim, no crime.
	Well, let me add, Corey, that then over the centuries, the sophistication of the state's attacks on humanity has continued to grow to the point where, you know, through the work of the Rockefellers and many others, they were able to sort of reverse engineer human neurology and find ways to trigger obedience.
	Fear being one of the main ways they achieve that.
	But the other is through social confirmation.
	So this is why they have to control social media so that only the correct ideas of obedience to the state are allowed to propagate.
	And only the narratives that keep the state in power are allowed to propagate.
	But fear is a form, you know, I've called it a government-sponsored psychological terrorism against the people.
	And that was COVID. I mean, think about it.
	How amazing this is that they got nations of billions of people to believe in the fear of something they could not even see.
	Something that could not even be isolated in a laboratory.
	Something that couldn't even be shown under a microscope.
	Okay?
	Because there's never been any isolation of COVID. Under a microscope where they could point to it and say, oh, that's COVID. And that if you put that in some other person's body, it makes them sick.
	That's never been done by any government in the world.
	But they had everybody panicked even to take their infants and children into the hospitals to get jabbed with something that nobody knew what was in it.
	I mean, you talk about a PSYOP, man.
	Yes, and we look at nutrition, right?
	The nutrition guidelines 30 years ago are different from what people are finding out now.
	Paleo and keto is growing, carnivore and lion diet as well.
	It's all growing because they see the failure of the science just 30 years ago where they're promoting carbs and vegetables and let's eat more grains, right?
	So...
	We're realizing, wait, fat is not the enemy.
	We need fat in our diet.
	And how come we were told that fat is the enemy and is causing all these heart problems when in reality it's actually healing all these people from all these diseases?
	So we're going through this shift right now in humanity and you can see it across every single scale.
	Even there's a big movement online for raw animal products.
	I eat beef raw.
	You know, that might surprise some people, but I know you talked to Agenis von der Planets one time, a long time ago as well.
	He was a big raw milk advocate, and I know you did several articles on him, and I know that you are mentioning, you've talked to the Weston A. Price Foundation.
	They talk about raw animal products as well and how it has a part in our ancestral diets.
	I think that is also essential because we're really losing nutrition, we're losing our fertility, our testosterone.
	Our ability to reproduce.
	And this is like just the basic humanity.
	The things we've had for thousands of years, it's being compromised.
	So we want to evolve with what we have and what we were given over all these ages, but we also don't want to devolve.
	And this is apparent as we move into the technological age and we're starting to be replaced by AI.
	And why I encourage everybody out there in independent media as well to start doing things in real life.
	Get off of the Internet.
	This is a tool.
	This is great.
	And we need to share it with other people to help people do more things in real life.
	But let's start talking to our neighbors.
	Let's start doing those real-life events.
	Connect with a local business to start advertising an event there and see if they will let you do an event there.
	They will advertise for you.
	You can set it up on meetup.com, Eventbrite.
	And then you can go to higher side chats.
	You can go to Freedom Sales.
	You can set up a Telegram.
	And boom, now you've got a network.
	I did that in just a couple months here in Florida.
	It wasn't difficult.
	Now, up north, it's a little bit more difficult because it's a different mindset over there.
	But still, I was able to do it because if you put your energy, your resources, your focus into that, you can do it.
	And that's what I want to tell everybody.
	You can do it.
	Jim Gale, right?
	He was a billionaire, went broke several times, and now he got his 50 acres in Florida.
	Now he's inspiring a bunch of people to grow food forests.
	And that's why he's helping us on the other side of the state, and he wants to help set this up in other parts of the world.
	This is a movement, something that is also relatively new, permaculture.
	So understanding statism and permaculture and keto and paleo, this stuff is new.
	So history isn't merely just cycling.
	We are attaining new information, AI, technology.
	This stuff is all new to us.
	So we all have to adapt.
	Yeah, I mean, it's new to us in this time, but, you know, a lot of what you said is, of course, ancient knowledge, right?
	I mean, permaculture was the way everybody farmed in China, you know, like a couple thousand years ago.
	Or, you know, even a lot of the raw diet, that was the way most people ate, you know, before a couple hundred years ago and so on.
	We're just unveiling that programming that we went through to take us away from our roots.
	Exactly.
	Or even, you know, even eating organic.
	Yeah.
	Well, we didn't have pesticides until post-World War II. We didn't have herbicides.
	We didn't have the gender-bender chemicals like atrazine.
	So what I see is that we have lived in this compressed era of human slavery since the post-World War II era, the rise of the U.S. Empire, the rise of dollar hegemony, and the dollar is a slave currency system, by the way.
	Would you agree with that?
	Yes.
	I'm actually doing an event on gold and silver soon.
	Okay, perfect.
	Anybody using the dollar is a slave, whether they realize it or not, because your wealth is being stolen from you.
	And of course, I mean, I use the dollar minimally, but of course I try to put assets in other places and use other systems of monetary exchange, you know, gold, silver, gold backs, crypto, you know, barter, you name it, right?
	But to get out of the dollar.
	But I don't think there's been any other time in history, and I want to ask you this question because you describe yourself as an abolitionist, and you've studied the abolitionist philosophers of the, well, the 19th century, let's say, and of course it goes back before that, but I would say that even compared to, let's say, 1859, we are more enslaved today than even black Americans were before.
	I know this is a controversial statement.
	What I'm saying is that slavery is now universal.
	We are all enslaved at a mental level that was never even known to be inflicted upon the plantation slaves of that day.
	So in some ways it's more severe for all of us.
	What are your thoughts?
	Absolutely.
	You can read the abolitionists from the 1800s.
	They were warning of other forms of slavery.
	This is something that most historians don't pick up on.
	But you can read the works of Lysander Spooner, and he talks about how the end of chattel slavery was just actually to help promote another form of slavery.
	And that's like a really shocking statement.
	He called it political slavery.
	That's one of my most famous videos online.
	I was talking about this idea of political slavery, which he coined a term for.
	But you can go back, like you said, it's even farther back, like Etienne de Labozy from French, in his writing, The Discourse on Voluntary Servitude, a fantastic writing, talking about the history of governments, talking about the nature of how they operate, going exactly into everything we talk about.
	And he makes that connection as well.
	You know, so this is a common trend you see among the philosophers who were on the outskirts, who were really looking at the world from the outside in, which is just like in health, you know, you have that outsider health coach or that practitioner who can see more about that insider, that individual that they don't see about themselves.
	So it's just about facilitating that process.
	So these abolitionists saw the world very differently because they set up their own towns.
	This was the Underground Railroad.
	They set up their own towns like Hopedale Community, Modern Times.
	Some of them had no government for 15 years, no crime whatsoever.
	They had their own currency systems and everything.
	So I see what they did, their actions, as essentially what we need to do.
	But they were warning us that, well...
	Okay, let's say you free the slaves because you wrote it down on a piece of paper.
	It's now an amendment.
	You still are reinforcing this belief system that we need it to be written down on a piece of paper for us to be considered free.
	Or that even that the slave owners need reimbursement from the government in order to free their slaves.
	And the abolitionists said that's not what we wanted.
	They also didn't want a war, a civil war.
	So it's interesting because they get warped into this agenda because this is what has happened is movements are infiltrated.
	These ideas are infiltrated to paint a picture that the government is on your side, right?
	So the union, it's on your side, right?
	And because they won the war, they're clearly the good guys, right?
	But that means because they wrote the history.
	They wrote the history.
	The winners write the history.
	So The abolitionists, they were always showing how to do things without politics.
	They actually encouraged people not to vote.
	They encouraged people to educate others.
	They built their own talents.
	They just went more off-grid.
	And they did those things that I'm talking about needs to be done because they really saw the root cause, which is this mental slavery, this mindset.
	Right, right.
	And that goes beyond all forms.
	Chattel slavery is just one form.
	And it's only gotten a lot worse today, as I mentioned earlier, because now with the technology that connects people to each other online and the ability of governments to centrally control narratives and to set the Overton window of allowable debate online, plus all those social connections, I see the rise of Facebook has actually given rise to increased social conformity, especially among younger people.
	Now, you're a lot younger than I am, but...
	Everybody knows that young people in general are far more concerned with social circle acceptance than anything else in their lives.
	Like the worst possible curse of a young person, typically a teenager, would be to be an outcast.
	Nobody wants to be an outcast.
	And young boys will dress up as girls and go to school as a girl if it means they'll be socially accepted.
	They're in the in crowd.
	You know, like whatever it takes.
	Take these hormone alteration drugs.
	Whatever it takes, you know.
	Have your breasts chopped off.
	Like, as long as you're socially accepted, it's all good.
	And that is a whole new level of a kind of a twisted manipulation of the minds of our youth through technology and through government control of that tech.
	Yes.
	To me, I see these as all symptoms of this underlying problem that have manifested out of control because that underlying problem has never really been addressed.
	That's the way I look at it.
	So when we do tackle this belief system, I do think it encourages a great amount of responsibility because you can see in the Stanley Milgram experiments, the person who is following orders is saying, well, I was just told to do so.
	They act like it was never their decision, like it was the authority's decision and they're just a pawn.
	Like, they're just a piece on a chessboard.
	But no, it's like they basically degrade themselves, devalue themselves.
	It's like, no, you are much more than that.
	Empower yourself and realize you do have a mind of your own.
	You can make your own decisions.
	And that's not what the system wants.
	The system is designed to basically prevent your conscience or critical thinking.
	As you said, I know at one point in time you said you wanted to make a course about how to critically think.
	I mean it's kind of sad, right, that people like Mark Passio have to make a course on what is right versus wrong.
	Don't you think this is kind of common sense?
	And if most people generally understand that, then where is the problem?
	It is because of these contradictions we don't see.
	And those contradictions are being cleared up because the voluntarist community is growing rapidly, I would say, around the world.
	One problem that could be seen is with identity.
	I'm not doing this for identity.
	I'm not doing this for money.
	I'm doing this for education because I care about humanity.
	There are going to be people who go into these movements, who go into the ideas because other people are doing it because it's for the identity or whatever.
	But the ideas is what matters, and the truth rises above all things.
	The truth will always exist.
	And if humans cannot align to it, they're going to face their own consequences.
	That's natural law.
	So we've faced chaos as the result of us not working with the truth.
	And now we're just realizing it.
	Oh, shoot, we messed up.
	Now let's either create a new system or maybe the system itself is inherently flawed and we need to realize it's not actually what we think it is.
	We say it's for order.
	We say it's to protect our rights.
	We say it's to we can limit government.
	But can it really be done?
	The challenge, I think the biggest challenge in all of this though, is that the vast majority of people are statists.
	And so if you have any kind of a system where people vote, You know, even you say let's vote for change or, you know, vote for reforming.
	I mean, this is why we actually have to build a parallel economy, which is what people like John Bush are doing and what I'm advocating for as well, because the oblivious statist masses will never voluntarily vote to dismantle their centralized authority state control.
	Like, you know, if you and I were the subjects in the Milgram experiments, let's say, if we were the ones that were being told, turn up the voltage, you know, hit them with another one, eventually, Eventually, and maybe right at the beginning or maybe somewhere partway through that experiment, like guys like you and I or women out there watching, we would turn to the experimenter and say like, "Freaking do it yourself, you asshole.
	I mean, you press the button." What am I doing here?
	This is not me.
	You do it.
	Yeah.
	There were people who stood up in the experiment and were like, I'm not going to do this anymore because I know where this leads.
	I know this is what has happened throughout history.
	I've studied history.
	The people who studied history knew.
	Exactly.
	But that moment, that's like a red pill moment, right?
	Where it's like, whoa, wait a second, what am I doing here?
	Or, you know, lucid dreaming or lucid living, right?
	It's like, it's a wake-up moment where you transcend the situation you're in and like, wait a minute, what am I doing here?
	You're questioning.
	You're questioning your actions, which is the healthy thing to do.
	But that moment never occurs to the majority of NPCs, as I'll say.
	I mean, this is the reality of what we're in.
	We're living in a society of NPCs.
	I will say, though, Mike, I do think there's enough people in independent media that if we wanted to create change, we could potentially do it overnight.
	I know it sounds like a pretty big statement, but I mean, even Infowars Bragg says, hey, we got more viewers than CNN. There are millions of people who want the truth, who see the truth, and they just simply aren't willing to act on it.
	They don't know how to act on it.
	They don't know how to organize and they don't know how to set up those systems that they say they want, for instance.
	So that's another issue, is even just among our own communities, there's going to be some small things we have to get through.
	This is why I'm reaching out saying, hey, if anybody wants to be a content creator, I'll help you, because we need to utilize the resources that we are given.
	Who's going to do the work that you're doing after you're gone, Mike?
	Who's going to do the work after I'm gone?
	And what technology will exist then?
	What resources will exist then?
	We need to...
	We need to know and outsmart the AI to an extent if we choose to beat it.
	We need to understand how it operates and never lose touch with who we are, most importantly, because this is what we need to keep if we want to remain human, as we say, keep our nature intact.
	Excuse me, let me add to that.
	I think that technology that exists today is more empowering, potentially, to humanity than at any time in history, right?
	I mean, this is why I'm embracing tech.
	This is why the show is about decentralized tech.
	I mean, think about it.
	Just the creation of Bitcoin alone has actually empowered people to have their own decentralized peer-to-peer systems of monetary exchange that cannot be counterfeited by any government in the world.
	I mean, Bitcoin is the most anti-state financial system that's ever been invented.
	And then all the derivatives since then.
	But I feel the same way about large language models and AI. Because I can build LLMs that can't be censored.
	I can distribute them through peer-to-peer content distribution systems and put them on people's laptops and computers all over the world.
	And they can ask questions and gain knowledge about permaculture, about herbs, about off-grid medicine without even using the internet, man.
	I mean, you can be offline.
	I mean, this tech has never existed before in human history.
	Huge, yeah.
	I'm even working together with a bunch of people right now, and we're making an AI based on that Most Dangerous Superstition book, where it asks you questions and challenges if you have that superstition.
	Ah, yeah.
	That's a really powerful resource for people to use.
	There's another book called The End of All Evil I would recommend for anybody who likes to read by Jeremy Locke.
	Very simple.
	I feel like kids can read that.
	They can understand it.
	It's very basic.
	Understanding your own value as a human being.
	Realizing you have infinite value.
	A simple message like that.
	Most people can agree with.
	Again, the problem is abandoning those belief systems and those conformities, like you said, that are keeping us in this matrix, this trap that we have fell into because it's fearful.
	Like you said, it's fearful to want to escape what we have long attached to.
	And especially everybody else around us does.
	There is a resistance that has to be found.
	Now, I don't want conflict with my neighbors.
	I don't want conflict with my friends and family.
	So I know that what I'm sharing is true and they may not know what that is.
	But just because I think differently does not necessarily mean that I have to end up in arguments with them, that I have to end up in conflict with them.
	As I talk to more people and I connect with more people in real life from these independent media communities, you learn how to talk with people and you learn how to introduce ideas that are in such a way to make the individual think for themselves just as a natural practitioner would help an individual heal themselves.
	So the same way we must approach the body is with the mind.
	It has to work from the inside, right?
	So This is just something to bear in mind because we might want to say, like I said before, this is what's happening.
	You need to know what's happening.
	And it's very tempting to do that.
	But realizing that we were once them, how did we get out of it ourselves?
	And how do we approach it from a holistic point of view?
	This is why I'm working with medical professionals.
	This is why I'm creating real-life events.
	This is why I'm putting it in action and having a food force where you can take people through it and you can see their mind and their energy change.
	Simply by bringing them through it.
	I've witnessed it.
	I've gone to Jim Gale's Galt's Landing property and I've seen people go there.
	People who have no clue what it's about.
	And all of a sudden their worldview opens up simply because they are in this natural world and they're like, here's a bunch of people who are caring, who are different, who are thinking for themselves.
	They experience it heads on.
	And I think that is very powerful.
	I'm really glad you said that, and I'm glad you invoked the Socratic method there, which I think is very powerful to help people really to answer, to reflect on their own contradictions as a method of learning.
	But I want to show you this.
	This is a goldback.
	This is one one-thousandth of an ounce of gold, right?
	So I've shown this to people.
	This has changed people's lives because they've come to realize, you mean I could have a bill that has gold in the bill?
	Instead of just, I have to have full faith and credit in this green.
	Let me get a, I mean, just to show it.
	Oh, here's a 20.
	20 what?
	20 faiths in the U.S. government is what that is.
	It's 20 faiths.
	Whereas this is one one-thousandth of an ounce of physical material of gold.
	This is mind-blowing to people.
	Because, like, if both of these were in a fire...
	Like, the gold back would melt down to gold.
	You would still have the gold, because gold doesn't burn.
	If this were in a fire, it would all burn up.
	The value's gone.
	And by the way, this currency is on fire, because they keep printing it.
	It's burning right now.
	The Treasury, they're arsonists.
	Yeah, quantitative easing.
	Yeah, so this is on fire.
	But...
	I have given away so many of these.
	I mean, I have literally given away probably thousands of dollars of these to people at this point.
	And this has turned on more people than anything else that I have actually done outside of my, you know, my podcast and so on.
	But things in the physical world, like in the local community, giving these to waiters and waitresses as tips and so on.
	It has awakened people.
	And I bet you they're thinking about currency now.
	It's like, wait a second.
	You mean I could have something in my pocket that actually has real value instead of losing value?
	Yes, exactly.
	You can do that.
	Absolutely.
	And you even mentioned, I remember you did an article as well, and many people have started to understand mercury fillings in your teeth.
	You can replace them with gold.
	Yes!
	And that gold can actually be medicinal, right?
	So these elements do go back far, and you can see the ancients had a great respect for them, and there was such a thing like external alchemy and internal alchemy, internal alchemy dealing with a lot of the psychological aspects that I'm talking about.
	And so this is something that is also being revived because of the modern age, because of the technology.
	We literally have it at our fingertips, and it's our choice to use it, which is why when I was 13, Mike, what started me on this journey is I just started reading ingredients on products.
	Oh, really?
	I was like, what are these ingredients?
	And that's why I came across your website many times, because they would go over the ingredients.
	I came across you, Food Babe, and a bunch of others at the time.
	Now I probably can't find your articles as much because, of course, it's all the deplatforming.
	But I used Good Gopher, which was a search engine at the time, too.
	And I remember you had Natural News TV. You were going out picking cactus in Texas with David Wolf.
	I remember all those things.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	But I watched all of it, and that was amazing.
	That was inspiring for somebody young like me to be like, wow, look at these guys, and they're doing this stuff.
	They're going on a road trip.
	They're writing articles.
	They're passionate.
	They care about what they say.
	And that, to me, was always the biggest thing.
	That's why Trump stood out to me, because he had an energy, a presence that drawed me in.
	So when I see Jim Gale and I see his energy and I see his passion and even Mark Passio, Passio, passion, you know, the guy has a great amount of passion.
	He went through a lot of strife.
	The dude was in a satanic church.
	He came out and exposed all the things that they were teaching him.
	And so Larkin Rose, I mean, he went to jail for not paying taxes.
	And in jail, he read Frederick Douglass and realized, wait, I'm seeing some connections here.
	So he took that time to write a bunch of stories while he was in jail.
	And he realized you can't really use paperwork to get out of the system.
	There's a lot of people saying become an American state national, go into the assemblies and start trying to find your way out of the system using the system.
	But we need to get to the point as humanity to just say no.
	This is the lost word in Freemasonry, which is what Mark Passio calls it.
	Just saying no.
	Those who know, K-N-O-W, will say no.
	And those are the people who will say, I'm not going to comply with this.
	No more.
	I'm not going to try to beat around the bush, do it through some paperwork mechanism.
	I have all the food.
	I have all the ability to self-sustain myself.
	I have friends and family.
	Who agree with me?
	You know, we're on the same page.
	We're just going to say, no, we don't need your system anymore.
	And if you want to come attack us, you can do that.
	You'll be exposing yourself.
	This is nonviolent resistance, the most powerful strategy throughout history to really demonstrate something.
	It's also called civil disobedience, again, started in the abolitionist time era of people like Henry David Thoreau and Ralph Waldo Emerson and the transcendentalists.
	They were showing, hey, That government is best.
	That governs not at all.
	But we need to get to that stage.
	And it literally says that in that book, Civil Disobedience.
	We're walking towards that.
	Aiden Ballou.
	Moral power versus political power.
	Talking about how moral power is so much stronger in every single aspect of life.
	This is another text most people never heard of.
	I want to add, Corey, to this.
	The more the system becomes corrupt and ineffective...
	Then the more compelling it is to move to these parallel thoughts and parallel communities and ideas that you and I are talking about and people in this movement.
	So, for example, the worse the corruption of medicine, the more it makes sense to grow your own medicine, right?
	Yes.
	Or the worse the inflation of the prices of food, the more it makes sense to grow your own food just as cost savings.
	I mean, we could go on and on.
	The worse the crime becomes in society, the more it makes sense to take care of your own self-defense.
	Become responsible.
	Second Amendment.
	Learn how to defend yourself.
	Become competent in pistols.
	Just a basic skill.
	Kind of like tying your shoes.
	You need to be able to defend yourself.
	It's a basic skill.
	It doesn't mean we condone violence.
	We don't.
	We condone halting violence.
	Right.
	Preventing it from happening.
	Preventing violence.
	Stopping it in its tracks.
	When I talk about statism, it's about recognizing we don't want evil to grow.
	Evil will always exist in some form.
	There's always going to be people who do bad things, but do you give them power?
	Do you say, hey, here's this nice little seat for you, psychopath, and you can now sit in this chair?
	Because that's what we're doing.
	We're furnishing the seat, and the people who seek power are the psychopaths, are the sociopaths.
	So the minute we say, okay, there can be this position where you can be in control of the rest of humanity, we're opening the door for them.
	They're going to do everything they can to look good, sound good, to get people on their side to take that position.
	But they're not even trying to sound good anymore.
	A lot of them talk like morons and they rig elections and that's how they stay in power.
	They don't even need the consent of the people.
	Right.
	Well, Mike, I see it more as a human destiny that humans need to understand this type of stuff.
	It's not just like this inward-outward thing where, yeah, there is this problem and now there's going to be this solution.
	I see there's a human destiny clearly being laid out for humanity as we evolve mentally, morally with our knowledge because we have the knowledge at our fingertips.
	We're seeing we're supposed to grow food.
	We're supposed to be free.
	And that is a very big key because we can say, oh, well, it's better that people are free rather than being a slave.
	But no, they're meant to be free.
	And that's what the abolitionists came to because there were a lot of people who said, well, why don't we just improve their condition?
	Why don't we just move them to a better plantation?
	And that would trick the slave into wanting to be a slave more, which is very important.
	Which is why voting and paperwork is just beating around the bush.
	Well, that's universal basic income.
	That's the UBI. Here, here, be a wealthier consumer slave.
	You can own more stuff.
	But that's any political solution.
	Yeah, any political solution is going to reinforce this idea of politics, which the word just means.
	Politics comes from city.
	It doesn't need to be through these violent mechanisms that we are reinforcing.
	Right.
	We don't need to operate with violence to get something done.
	If our idea is so great, let's do it voluntarily.
	Let's show others by example.
	Let's be a true leader and not impose our will on others, but show by example and others will willingly follow.
	Yes, yes.
	You're going to have leaders.
	You're going to have people who do wrong things.
	You're going to have order and organization and businesses.
	You're not going to have involuntary hierarchies, involuntary businesses, involuntary organizations, because that is the definition of government.
	People like Leo Tolstoy, known as one of the greatest writers of all time, deduced it in his writing, which is probably the closest thing to mine.
	It's called slavery of our times.
	And he says slavery is government.
	Government is essentially deduced.
	All law is slavery.
	And these are shocking statements.
	But this is somebody who was a pacifist, who was a Christian, somebody who really cared about humankind.
	And it's amazing that you can see, okay, well, wow, they love peace and order, so why would they want chaos?
	Maybe we're trained to think that freedom is chaos, so we're fearful of freedom, and thus we're never actually free.
	Yeah, no.
	People are like, oh, we can't trust natural medicine.
	It has to be standardized.
	We've got to go to a pharmacy.
	One of the most powerful things that I've ever said to many people It goes like this.
	Do you know about the existence of drugs that treat cancer?
	They're like, yeah, get them at the hospital.
	Get them at the pharmacy.
	They're prescribed to me by a doctor.
	Like, what if you could make those yourself at home for free, but they're also better because they're not toxic?
	Like, what are you talking about?
	Okay, learn how to sprout broccoli.
	So if you're sprouting broccoli, you just buy some seeds, you take a mason jar, you put cheesecloth and rubber band on top, and you rinse it two or three times a day, and the sprouts are synthesizing anti-cancer medicine.
	Sulforaphane, in this case, is one of them.
	Sulforaphane, anti-inflammatory, anti-cancer, neuroprotective.
	And I say to people, you know, you could grow that for free for pennies.
	You don't even need a yard.
	You don't need soil.
	You don't need sunlight.
	You don't need, like, artificial light.
	Nothing.
	You can do it in a jar with water.
	And they're like, no way.
	Yes way.
	You can actually do that.
	And then some people start doing that, and it changes them.
	They're like, wait a second, man.
	Like, okay, the pharmacy, the doctor, the health insurance...
	Or I could have a lifestyle that's an anti-cancer lifestyle where I'm actually creating anti-cancer molecules.
	Actually, I mean, they give credit to nature and God because we didn't invent the broccoli sprout.
	But Mother Nature gives it to you.
	Yeah, exactly.
	But you're synthesizing.
	Molecules, literally out of the air, carbon dioxide out of the air and water, kaboom, it's synthesizing anti-cancer medicine for free.
	Like, that's a very powerful argument against state control over medicine.
	Once they start doing that, they're asking, well, wait, how come I was never taught this in school?
	How come my medical doctor never taught me?
	Oh, maybe it's because he never learned nutrition within his eight years of allopathic traditional medicine.
	It's funny because we call natural medicine as the alternative when it's the one that has been used for thousands of years.
	So you just start seeing this hypocrisy.
	You start seeing these contradictions.
	You start seeing these justifications.
	These are all moral, psychological, mental contradictions.
	And that's why my work is with the people.
	My work is with everyday people.
	It's not with trying to change something in power, trying to change a law or a person.
	No, it's about changing my fellow man, which to me, it's like they have the answers within them.
	Like you said, the cancer cures are all throughout nature.
	It's all around us.
	It's just about realizing who we naturally are.
	I even created my own philosophy based on understanding nature.
	I call nature-osophy.
	So this I created as I saw necessary to emphasize this sort of nature-based respect, which I see across many different traditions that I wanted to bring together, including Taoism and Transcendentalism and Stoicism, for instance.
	So some people might be familiar with them, but I want to learn from all these different places.
	Now, we're not disconnected anymore.
	You know, we don't have the church that they're the only ones who can interpret the Bible for us.
	No, we can print our own Bible.
	We can be our own interpreter.
	We can be...
	That's what you've seen throughout history as well, this evolution I speak of.
	As soon as people start printing their own Bible, oh, we got Protestants, we got all these denominations, and we're moving more and more toward that.
	I'm now seeing non-denominational churches, and they're looking trendy.
	They got all these concerts and bands.
	They don't even look like a traditional church anymore, but it's trendy for the new generation.
	And so you see things are just moving more and more toward individual freedom.
	And I don't think that's going away anytime soon, because I do see it as an individual destiny.
	It's inevitable.
	If truth is freedom, and freedom is the truth, this is something that is unavoidable.
	And if things will crash and turn into anarchy...
	as as it always will, because that's our natural condition.
	We haven't learned to embrace it.
	Anarchy simply means no rulers doesn't mean no rules.
	There's always rules.
	There's people if they come into your property, into your business, you have rules that you enforce for your own business, your own property.
	And there's always going to be people who create moral guidelines for others.
	The difference is you're not going to have somebody using their subjective whim and imposing it upon everybody else using law and violence to basically tell others how to live their own lives.
	It's a respect.
	It's a trust.
	It's a voluntary interaction between others.
	But you'll have tons of different solutions, not just one.
	You wouldn't have a monopoly on postal service, on violence, on any sort of service within society.
	If people want to have a flat surface for roads, there'll be roads.
	People asked on the 1800s, well, who will pick the cotton without the slaves?
	You know, well, if we let the slaves be free, they'll be chaos in everything.
	And the slaves didn't know how to read or write.
	So, like, of course they're going to be slaves.
	Once Frederick Douglass said, I learned how to read and write, he was like, I can't be a slave anymore.
	So that's why he started teaching other slaves how to read and write.
	And are we not doing the same thing right now by teaching our fellow man, hey, you haven't learned all this stuff.
	This was kept hidden from you.
	This is why you're meant to be free.
	It's really interesting.
	And guess what?
	The abolitionists were censored just like we were.
	They were attacked in the newspapers back then just like we were.
	And they were blamed for all sorts of things.
	But you know what?
	They still won because truth had it as destiny.
	So in, let's say, the 1840s and 1850s, the southern plantations had censorship to prevent the slaves from becoming literate.
	Today, there's Google to prevent humans from accessing knowledge.
	And I would say that the primary purpose of Google is to actually isolate humanity from knowledge, not to present knowledge, not to organize the world's information.
	Everything that Google claims they're doing is actually the opposite of what they're doing.
	They are dissociating humanity from knowledge and giving you artificial constructs that are anti-knowledge.
	Google is really an anti-knowledge search engine.
	If you want to find all kinds of anti-knowledge things that aren't true, fake narratives, Google's the place to go.
	Otherwise, if you want the truth, come here.
	Decentralized.tv or Brighttown.com or any of the other alternative platforms or your website.
	Let me plug that again.
	TheLiberator.us for people who want to follow your work.
	Now, Corey, in...
	We're kind of coming up on time here.
	We're going to wrap this up.
	And then I'll have an after-party discussion with Todd Pitner that I'm sure will be loads of fun.
	That's where we get to talk about you without you present.
	But don't worry.
	We'll be nice about it.
	What would you like to add here in wrapping this up?
	And with a special emphasis on practicality.
	I mean, a lot of times we have ideas, but how can people translate this into their real-world actions?
	Yes.
	Well, for one, I have a huge network down here in Florida, and I'm building a network around the world that you can find on the networking section of theliberator.us.
	Like I said, we have an events section and a livestream section.
	I'm even willing to turn your article into a video for you.
	This is a way for you to get free promotion and also a way for me to help you with your content creation.
	Of course, I also have several other projects, like I did the End of Slavery Summit with over 50 speakers, including David Icke, Larkin Rose, and Derek Rose, and you name it.
	That's awesome.
	Yeah, so that was in 2022.
	Oh, I've got to talk to you about that.
	And I set up a whole summit.
	I even show people how they can create their own summit.
	Everything I do, I try to create a blueprint for others.
	So right now I'm trying to find land.
	I'm trying to create a bunch of food forests local to my area.
	I'm making a blueprint so that way others can replicate the same process.
	And I'm working with Jim Gale's team to make that possible.
	Now I also have another project.
	project called the liberator to showcase where you can send me a one minute video and i'll feature it and we'll do a whole thing about it we'll post it on all the major platforms tiktok and instagram and although i may not like tiktok and you may not either you know it's about sharing the latest medium of getting the information out there which nowadays it's one minute videos so i'm helping people learn how to put their information into one minute videos i'll I'll even help you do the editing.
	The liberator.us has everything on there so people can get involved and learn.
	Very simply, there's a learn page and an action page.
	It's all there.
	I have quotes from many different people.
	We're doing many different series on different topics, whether it's religion or morality or psychology and getting to the root cause, which, again, lives with the minds of the masses.
	We realize that's where...
	What creates this world?
	So if we're going to change the world, we can't change one person.
	It's the millions that follow that one person.
	That's what matters here.
	Perfect, perfect.
	So thank you, Mike.
	Corey, no, I have to ask you before you go.
	You said earlier that you're 23, right?
	Yes.
	How do you find people to talk to in your own age group?
	I mean, honestly, because you're so well-read and such a deep thinker, and that's not a common trait among people in their early 20s.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, so that's actually a good question because people ask me that in person as well.
	And that's why my land idea of getting land around here is kind of important because I want to create a place that would invite them to see it in person and utilize more of those strategies that I know would help approach people my age.
	So that is part of my strategy because it is not easy.
	Finding my own generation.
	I didn't go through the college system and loads of debt.
	You know, I went to the Institute of Integrative Nutrition, which is like an online school, which is a lot of people who are so much in this mindset already of, like, let's free the world and let's create change.
	And a lot of the people I do talk to are maybe perhaps around your age who are sick of the system, who are veterans, who got out of war and had all this trauma, and they...
	And so there's a lot of people I talk to who have life experiences.
	I'm one of the only young people that I know really knows about this, but I am reaching out to them.
	I'm trying to go to universities.
	I'm trying to go to colleges.
	So that one's a work in progress.
	It's one that I have always on my mind all the time.
	And I've seen people like Nick Fuentes, right, which you might know.
	I've seen people who are rather young that I would consider rather intelligent in this independent media sphere, but they aren't talking about statism or voluntarism.
	They aren't looking at the morality of psychology, perhaps, as much as I am, but I do want to reach out to them, too.
	I'm not close to anyone, and that's the key, is I recognize there's value in my generation and what they think.
	They might have been misguided, but I don't think they're dumb.
	Now, someone may say, well, they didn't learn what they wanted.
	They're dumb.
	They don't know what they're talking about.
	They're promoting all this leftist stuff or whatever.
	And I could probably agree with you, but the point is that they don't know what they got themselves into.
	I didn't know what I didn't know until I learned about what I didn't know.
	It's a process.
	There's got to be some sort of thing that really wakes them up.
	And unfortunately, COVID is not going to wake up everybody at once.
	It woke up a lot of people, a lot of medical professionals, a lot of people that I know, but it's a process.
	I don't know the answer to that one, Mike, unfortunately, but I'm working on that one.
	It's always on my mind.
	And if anybody has tips for me.
	I'm glad you're working on that one.
	And your energy, your enthusiasm, your curiosity, I think, is one of your best traits.
	You're curious about the way the universe works, and you've got a lot of runway ahead of you to help influence people.
	I mean, when I was your age, I think I was just finishing up university, and I thought Bill Clinton was a pretty cool cat at that time.
	I mean, that's how naive I was.
	But then again, we didn't have the internet.
	Okay.
	We didn't have, I mean, we had CNN, we had like a couple of networks and that was it.
	I mean, we were totally controlled at that time and we did not know how controlled we were.
	So this is part of the advantage I'm talking about.
	People your age right now, they have access to more tools and more alternative information than at any other time in human history.
	I will say, for us to do, rather than what strategies we can do to reach my generation, content creation.
	If you ask most people in our sphere, how did you find out about this or that?
	It was through some content creator.
	That's right.
	And this generation is constantly on TikTok, on Instagram Reels.
	I noticed those two right now are particularly effective, and a lot of us are not utilizing those tools.
	So maybe people want to start learning how to produce content because my generation, unfortunately, is on their phone all the time.
	Yeah, true.
	So that is where we need to go.
	Unfortunately, I can create a real life place.
	I can make a little paradise and people can walk in and that's great.
	But also we need to be producing online content.
	I would say that's the main strategy.
	Yeah, well, exactly.
	And the more profound your ideas, sometimes the more viral the content.
	In a sea of pointless celebrity worship or whatever, to have a voice that says, question your own programming.
	It's like, wow, that's really interesting.
	That can actually break through.
	People like Milo Yiannopoulos, it was really helpful for me in 2016.
	Because he went to college campuses and there were people who were burning his books and there was a whole event happening at UC Berkeley, if I remember correctly.
	But I followed all that to a T. I watched every single one of Trump's campaigns and all that stuff because the energy drew me in.
	So that's why I know people like my friend David Rodriguez and Jim Gale, they have this energy that if they reach my generation, I think my generation will...
	There's got to be somebody who's going to be like, wow, this is really inspiring.
	This is interesting.
	Because I'm meeting people constantly who have amazing experiences.
	And I'm like, wow, if you just shared that with my generation, I'm sure that someone will be open to it.
	And that's the thing.
	Learn how to use the technology.
	Learn how to use these recent tools.
	Don't put yourself down.
	Don't say you're too old.
	You don't know how to use it.
	Mark Passio even does a course on teaching people how to use the technology, and he'll literally baby-step you every step of the way, because he says he's a teacher of teachers.
	He says he doesn't want to be the only one doing it and teaching natural law.
	He is not natural law, right?
	Natural law is something we all teach.
	This is something everybody shares.
	So we all need to learn how to...
	I completely agree.
	And then the question is, what do we do?
	Does humanity rush back to the hands of government?
	Save us, print a new currency, bail us out, which would be a suicide mission.
	That would be insane.
	Or do we say, wait a second, that didn't work again for the 200th time.
	Why don't we do something different?
	Why don't we have distributed power, distributed money?
	Things that can't be counterfeited.
	We can end the titler cycle.
	End this history cycle of democide occurring over and over again, the top cause of death, and we can prevent that from happening.
	It never has to happen again if we understand some of the precepts that I was proposing in this interview here.
	I highly recommend people look into the most dangerous superstitions, statism, Mark Passio's work.
	And there's a reason why they're attracting my generation, why I got into their work after getting into politics, because I realized I'm in it for the truth.
	I'm not in it to have an identity.
	I'm not in it to be a part of some group.
	I'm a genuine truth seeker.
	I do my own introspection.
	So that's why I came across their works.
	I recognize what they're teaching is universal.
	It's on point.
	It's really getting to the root cause.
	Otherwise, I wouldn't have really delved so much into it.
	That's the truth.
	I just kept going further and further in my discovery, and that's what I've come to understand.
	And when I'm a bigger content creator or you're a bigger content creator, we need other people who aren't to see things that we don't see about ourselves and what we're doing so they can help us improve.
	I love your message.
	I love what you're doing.
	I'm going to leave you, if you don't mind, I'm going to leave you with just a bit of elder advice if you're open to that.
	Yes, I am.
	Because I love what you're doing.
	And I've learned a few things over the years.
	And the thing I want to share with you and with our audience is...
	Over the years, there have been times when I started speaking out about something, and I got a lot of threats, even from sometimes my own audience, saying, oh, you can't say that.
	Don't you dare speak about that.
	Don't you dare criticize that, whatever that happens to be, which at the moment in the Middle East, let's say, might be Israel, for example.
	I'm glad you're speaking up about that, by the way.
	Yeah.
	You're very free-spoken.
	Or, like, you can't say that about the Bible.
	Oh, yes, I can, actually.
	And I did.
	And I'm going to keep saying that because the Bible doesn't dictate my relationship with our Creator, for example.
	But I just want to share with you, Corey, every single time that I've been threatened that I would lose my audience for telling the truth, every single time, I've actually gained audience.
	But I've gained new audience.
	I've lost some people and I've gained more people.
	And then over time, my audience has become more and more aligned with these overall ideas of human freedom, freedom to think, the freedom to question.
	And so if I had ever listened to the threads, I would have been stuck in a conformist view this entire time.
	I just want to share that with you.
	Yes.
	Oh, yeah, absolutely.
	I think it's very important that we take that time away from the internet, even as content creators, to do that introspection, because we don't want to get trapped in this world.
	It's a trap, and it's very easy that we can be pushed into certain agendas.
	I remember seeing you on TV, I think.
	I don't watch TV anymore.
	I haven't watched TV anymore.
	I remember seeing you on TV because if you remember that Las Vegas shooting, your video went viral on YouTube at the time talking about how there could be a second shooter and all that.
	And I was like, what?
	Mike Adams is on my local TV news.
	That's weird.
	But yeah, the attacks only made Trump stronger in 2016.
	And I realized that was interesting, right?
	If you express yourself, you express your humanity, that's what makes you popular.
	I mean, but it's also because people like seeing that real...
	I mean, that's the term I apply to it.
	People are desperate for authenticity in an age when celebrity influencers can earn a couple hundred thousand dollars to plug something that they don't even believe in.
	I don't know, some fashion purse or something.
	Who cares?
	Who cares what brand name is on your fake leather purse?
	In an age of that, or people are puppets for the state.
	So many, especially conservative influencers, I've found out, are puppets for the state.
	Sometimes not even our own state.
	They're puppets for some other foreign state, right?
	And it's so disappointing to see people that were like, I'm pro-liberty, I'm pro-freedom, and then they're like, all of a sudden, but I actually, you know, they're actually working for some agency of some foreign land somewhere that's giving them a script.
	Authenticity is the currency.
	I didn't know in 2016 Trump's biggest campaign donor was Sheldon Adelson.
	He said, hey, I wasn't being funded by anybody.
	Here's the kingpin who literally buys out presidents.
	And you have the whole Israeli lobby.
	And how come nobody in the right wing was willing to criticize Israel?
	And that's why when you start talking about that and you're open about it, you're like, I'll talk about anything.
	That's great.
	But also having audiences be like, well, you need to talk about this.
	You need to talk about that.
	You know, I think that can sometimes backfire on what the audience wants, too, because some people are like, well, why do you want me to talk about this?
	So it's just an interesting dynamic, what we've created in this world, where you have people who are preaching tolerance and they're not tolerant at all.
	You have social media that's antisocial.
	Everything's very backwards, you know?
	Well, and we saw, coming out of COVID, we saw a lot of new voices that started out speaking truth, and many of them, perhaps most of them still do, but then a few voices that just became, oh, well, now I have an audience, so now it's all becoming calculated and scripted, and now it's all about views and everything.
	Yeah, and then it becomes their entire obsession is to get views.
	I wouldn't expect Ben Shapiro to understand anything I talked about with statism and voluntarism.
	No, because he built his foundation over 10, 20 years talking about the Republican standpoints that he has set in stone for himself.
	So his likelihood of challenging his own belief system is going to be far less than his audience who doesn't have an online platform, who can think more for themselves because they didn't create an identity around it.
	Yeah, exactly.
	No, I think Ben Shapiro is a really great example there.
	And I think he's destroyed his reputation among independent-minded people at this point, which also tells you how fragile it is.
	We are always being judged appropriately, by the way, by our own audiences.
	And they may or may not agree with us with what we say, but that's different from judging whether or not we are being authentic in our own voice.
	I can disagree with you, but I could still say, but I believe that you're coming from a place of humanity.
	We might have a different perspective.
	But you're not a puppet for the state being handed a script by a deep state agency that's telling you to influence people with the following brainwashing.
	Right.
	Yeah, exactly.
	That's my whole message in a nutshell.
	I say this in my videos.
	Think whatever you want, just don't impose it on me and tell me I have to go along with it.
	That's it, right?
	Golden rule.
	Very basic.
	Exactly.
	All right.
	Well, Corey, it's been a real pleasure.
	Thank you for taking the time to join us today.
	We'll have to do this again.
	And let me just give out your website again, theliberator.us, and check out all of Corey's books and articles and courses and documentaries.
	Oh, and I want to talk to you, Corey, about the docuseries that you mentioned that you put together with Derek Rose in it.
	And I would really like to see if we could talk to you about running that on Brighttown University coming up this year.
	Sure.
	Let's talk about that off-air, see if we can make that happen.
	I'm a big fan of Derek Brose also, and he's been here in the studio.
	And I'm sure we'll see him again here in 2024.
	He's kind of busy, you know, running for mayor and things like that.
	So that guy's doing it.
	He's not sitting back and just saying, everybody else do it.
	No, Derek is doing it.
	He's doing everything he can.
	Yeah, 100%.
	All right, Corey, thank you for joining me today.
	It's been a pleasure.
	Yep.
	Take care.
	I appreciate it.
	Yep.
	Take care.
	All right, folks, we'll be joined then in the After Party coming up next by my co-host Todd Pitner for his reaction to this interview, plus some additional discussion about human freedom.
	So stay with us.
	We'll be right back after this break with the After Party here on Decentralize.tv.

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