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Episode 35, March 12, 2024 – Ann Vandersteel on being an American National, human freedom and...

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	Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Welcome to today's episode of Decentralized TV here on Brighteon.com.
	I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon, and we have a really special guest for you today.
	But first, I'm joined by my co-host, Todd Pitner.
	Welcome, Todd.
	Always great to have you.
	Hola, hola.
	Another Thursday, another awesome episode.
	Great guest.
	Oh, I know.
	This guest is going to blow people's minds.
	We'll get to her in just a second.
	But, Todd, I just want to say how much I'm enjoying doing these shows with you.
	We're getting a ton of positive feedback from viewers.
	And the call is to do more shows.
	But, you know, we'll have to see if we can.
	But I'm barely keeping up with what we've done so far.
	Well, you know, Mike, when you're dealing with World War III and you're as prolific as you are to try to keep everyone up to speed...
	You know what?
	You get the pass.
	You get the pass.
	Well, I do want to remind our audience that every show that we do here, our attempt is to make it timeless.
	It's not about current events, although that may come up, but it's wisdom that you can turn to at any time.
	And you should also watch all the other shows that are posted on decentralized.tv.
	But with that said, our guest today, this is definitely going to be a timeless interview because she brings so much wisdom and experience in decentralized living, living with a sense of freedom and liberty and self-determination.
	It's Ann VanderSteel.
	Her website is rightnow.news, and she is also a host on our network, Brighteon.tv.
	I've known Ann for many years, and Ann is one of the most passionate and courageous Thank you, Mike.
	Todd, good to be with both of you today.
	And yeah, I'm looking forward to this conversation.
	This is going to be a lot of fun.
	Absolutely.
	And you're joining us from Belize today?
	Is that where you are?
	Yeah, in Belize, Michael Jan and I are down here with Masaka Ganaha, and we are tracking the migrant invasion, doing a lot of on-the-ground research, really looking at and mapping out all the globalist organizations that are establishing a big footprint down here because they can.
	And so this is all to the story of the destruction of the United States and of the American way of life, which is why I think this conversation and living decentralized, or should we say opting out of the system, is going to be so critical for Americans to understand just what's at stake.
	Oh, yeah.
	In fact, you and I was talking with Michael Young the other day, too, but you both told me that you met with a group of Mennonites there.
	And this has everything to do with our topic today, because we talk about off-grid living and not having to rely on centralized systems.
	And sometimes the Amish come up, and now the Mennonites.
	Can you tell us about your interaction with the Mennonites and what that means to you in terms of off-grid living?
	Absolutely.
	So the Mennonites really epitomize living off the grid.
	They epitomize not using electricity as in its formal state with wires coming in.
	They epitomize being fully self-sustained for medicine, for financial, for their own self-governance.
	I mean, these are critical.
	Of course, they're not into censorship and big tech, so we don't have to worry about that.
	They actually gather like our First Amendment rules.
	What have you do, which is coming together in the public square to sort out their issues and be self-reliant.
	They don't need the outside world at all.
	And here in Belize, you're seeing 3000 Mennonites living in harmony with nature, as Klaus Schwab would prescribe one to do.
	But they're not trying to exterminate each other.
	You know, these are people who have never taken vaccines.
	These are people who are literally, you know, as you walk around the house and the outside of the property with them, you'll see things growing right in the cracks on the side of their home.
	They'll pick it up and go, well, this will cure, you know, any sort of lung infection or this is really good for cancer or this is really good for inflammation.
	And if I was looking at it back, you know, at home, I'd say that looks like a weed to me.
	But no, they have absolutely mastered the...
	of nature and living off the land so that they can, of course, be decentralized from the big ag, the big food, and of course everything that the government will have its hands in and regulate, which turns into poison.
	Well, and by the way, Todd, I'll give the next question to you, but I think what our viewers have come to understand, and also a lot of people around the world, a lot of viewers, is that the centralized systems that they once trusted, such as governments or authorities like the CDC or the FDA or the central banks.
	those systems have now betrayed them.
	Humanity is being betrayed, and if you don't want to be betrayed, you need to be more self-reliant.
	What are your thoughts on that, Ann?
	If you are not more self-reliant at this point, you are going to find yourself in harm's way because as this globalist takeover happens worldwide, what they're doing currently is, of course, they're now digitizing everything in your life Including your health records, which they've done for quite some time.
	Your bank records.
	Your financial stability is now going to be completely dependent on the central bank digital currency.
	Your food dependence has been rolled up into the globalist corporate food organizations.
	And of course, we're watching them exterminate and round up cows over in the Netherlands, for instance.
	They're making beef a problem for society over there because of cow farts.
	Such ridiculousness.
	They don't understand what photosynthesis is and that you need CO2 in the atmosphere because that's very integral into the tree and the food and the vegetable production on the ground.
	They need that for energy in order to grow and produce food for not only the cattle but for all of us.
	So all of this is rolling into what I would consider to be, as Michael Yan calls it, the pandemic famine war of the century.
	This is going to be the full global wipeout.
	And if we don't stand up to that and push back and learn how to live off the grid, learn how to live outside the corporate government of the United States of America, we will be, unfortunately, sitting ourselves just like lambs to the slaughter because we just didn't take the opportunity to understand what our true God-given freedoms are.
	And those are very clearly...
	I'm noted by our founding fathers, particularly in our Declaration of Independence and our Constitution, but also in our Bill of Rights.
	And I would have to say the first ten amendments in our Bill of Rights are, in fact, wholly constitutional.
	It's what happens after that where the problems set in, and that's where we started to get sucked into this big global corporate governance.
	And again, their footprint and fingerprint is in every aspect of our lives.
	So what's important about your show here, Mike and Todd, is that you're showing people how to get outside of that footprint.
	And stand back on the law of the land and live by what God would have ordained you to be, which is free in every sense of the word.
	Well, Todd, we often have pretty techie kind of guests on the show that maybe have trouble talking.
	Well, our guest today has no trouble finding the words to explain what she believes.
	So, Todd, it's all yours.
	All right.
	I have two questions.
	One is very non-techy.
	So you're with the Mennonites, and you were saying that no vaccines, no outside influence, etc.
	Do you get a sense when you speak to the young kids that they are just at a different level from an intelligence standpoint because they haven't had the vaccines?
	They probably breastfed until they were mid-twos.
	Any sense that they're just...
	A hundred percent.
	One hundred percent.
	Look, let's face it, there's been studies that have done, I've even heard Dr.
	Peter McCullough and even Steve Kirsch talk about the studies of the children that have never received a vaccine.
	And that lobotomy that happens when you're vaccinated over and over again just is not happening to the Mennonite children.
	Again, they've never received any of these toxic chemicals.
	And, you know, the studies were never done about the layered effects Of mercury and aluminum and all the other adjuvants that are added into these vaccines.
	They were never done.
	But what we're learning today is, you know, autism is significantly on the rise here in the United States and in the Western countries.
	And, of course, that's directly attributable to the vaccines, which, of course, the Mennonites don't have that affliction.
	And thank God.
	But to your point about these young children, these children are, you know, 10 years old, 8 years old.
	They're driving horse and buggies down the street like a boss.
	I mean, these kids are out in the fields working.
	They know how to operate the machinery.
	They know how to grow food.
	They know how to cook food.
	They can do laundry.
	I mean, this harkens back to the day my mother grew up on a farm, and they were up at 4 in the morning at the crack before dawn, before the roosters crowed, and they were out in the fields doing what they needed to do, getting the cattle out, collecting the eggs, all this kind of stuff, because this is how they lived.
	And if you go anywhere outside the continental United States, even though there are chicken farms and so forth, but majoritably speaking, you go into the third world countries and you see people with forged chickens everywhere.
	And these families will go out and grab one of their chickens if they're not laying eggs, and that's dinner tonight.
	This is how it's meant to be.
	This is what God provided on the planet.
	And the Mennonites have harnessed that.
	They fully understand it.
	And as we learned from the medicine lady yesterday, this is nothing new for them to go and pluck something that you and I might think is a weed.
	Well, probably not you, Mike, but most people would think it's a weed and go, wow, that can be made into a tea, and that can be made into a tincture, and that would be chopped up in a salad, and oh, by the way, you'll be preventing any sort of sick care or healthcare concerns because of the food that you're eating.
	And I looked at these Mennonites, and at their age, into the 80s and 90s, they were standing up erect.
	Osteoporosis wasn't a problem, despite they were slim in stature.
	But their teeth were beautiful.
	Their skin was beautiful, and they lived down here in Belize, which is a tropical climate.
	You would think they probably have melanoma and all this other stuff.
	Nope.
	They looked incredible, and they weren't using sunscreen and so on and so forth.
	They were just out and out, and this is what good living is.
	I also want to mention about the mental health of the children.
	So the children are not on psychiatric drugs.
	No.
	They're also not on a lot of processed, sugary junk foods.
	And then thirdly, I would imagine, they're not running around with their faces stuck on their mobile phones all day, right?
	No.
	So what are the children like in terms of maturity, mental health, relationships, joy, those kinds of things?
	Well, one of the first things that you recognize when you speak to some of the children there is their eye contact.
	And that's one of the things, I'm a big body language person, so when somebody presents their children or their children are introduced without the parents, you can always tell who the parents are by the way the child behaves, particularly if they're able to maintain good eye contact.
	And these children are very self-aware, they're very self-assured, and they're not intimidated.
	Because they do see, you know, the crazy people with cars coming into their neighborhoods taking pictures on the regular.
	It's not foreign to them.
	But what is foreign to them are the children that can't do what I just said, maintain eye contact, have a conversation, aren't distracted by technology.
	And, you know, unfortunately what we see today, Mike, to your point, is these kids are so distracted on these cell phones and everything comes in three- or five-second soundbites.
	They can't carry on a conversation and impart meaningful wisdom and connect dots.
	If this happens, then that happens.
	Whereas these Mennonite children, this is their whole world.
	They understand that if it's not raining, there's going to be a problem with crops.
	So they have to think about constant contingency plans, whereas we don't think about a contingency.
	We just think about Uber Eats if we can't get the car to hit the drive-thru.
	You know what I mean?
	It's a completely different way of thinking, but it is all geared around being self-sustained and in the true sense of the word, not in a 15-minute city, Klaus Schwabian, world economic form sense of the word.
	Exactly, exactly.
	Okay, Todd, back to you.
	Sounds like nirvana to me.
	It really is.
	It really is.
	As Mike knows, I installed a food forest in my back property, and it's a long way from being abundant.
	But I look at all of it, and there's, I mean, I don't know what all the plants are.
	So I would love to have your medicine lady just come on up here to Florida and just give me a little bit of coaching.
	You know what?
	I would recommend you come down here because you can learn a lot just by walking on their farms.
	It's beautiful.
	That's absolutely extraordinary.
	I can imagine.
	That goes on the bucket list.
	So thank you for that suggestion.
	I have a question I like to ask people.
	And it sounds to me like you and Michael are right in the heart of the pursuit right now, you know, investigating these companies that are going down there and such.
	But we always, and we, man, especially since 2020, people started using the term they.
	Like, oh, they are doing this, they're doing that, oh, they...
	And it's so elusive.
	And so I like to get down to the bottom of it.
	Who in your mind is the they?
	The top of the pyramid, the influence of evil.
	I mean, does it stop at WEF and Klaus Schwab?
	Is there influences over him?
	You know, I kind of believe it's a spiritual war, so I'm pretty sure Satan is the headstone.
	But who are they, in your estimation?
	So that's a question I get on the regular because people want more specificity anymore, right?
	We're tired of this sort of conspiracy theory or definition today.
	And while Klaus Schwab is the face of the World Economic Forum, which I consider to be the unofficial or de facto State Department for the United Nations, You have to look at the Global Governance Organization and all the different sub-organizations and say, who is it that's actually sitting on top of all this?
	In my opinion, it goes above country because these are people who, while I believe they're related into the 13 families, could I tell you it's Tom, Dick, or Harriet?
	No, I can't tell you because they're the people that are clandestinely hiding behind using the puppet masters.
	George Soros is way down on the rung of the ladder.
	While he's a name we love to throw out there all the time, he's really a meat puppet.
	He is.
	He's a meat puppet as is Klaus Schwab, as is Yuval Noah Harari, as is Adnan Tedros from the World Health Organization.
	They're all just meat puppets extensively that are interested in facilitating the agenda for this massive global public-private partnership.
	But here's what Michael and I talked about.
	You know, these people actually believe the Kool-Aid that they're drinking.
	They believe in that Kool-Aid.
	They believe that there's too many of us.
	And they really do believe, like the Bill Gates of the world, they believe that they can extinguish us while we see this as demonic and evil.
	You have to understand, to your point, it's a spiritual war.
	And it is rooted in the fact that they're anti-God and anti-human.
	They are pro, I guess you could say pro-Satan, but they're really pro-transhuman because since they don't believe in God, these people believe they need to transcend the human being through transhumanism.
	And is it coming from the head of the World Health Organization?
	Is it coming from the head of the World Economic Forum?
	No, I don't believe so.
	I believe it is coming from an ethereal group of people that like to stay in the shadows, that don't want their names out there because they really don't believe in God.
	They really believe that they are there to control the rest of the world.
	So if I was going to tell you who they is, the other, the very top they, I couldn't give you a name.
	But they use great people.
	They use not great.
	They use people like Schwab, like Soros, like Tedros, you know, and then, of course, the International Bank Income.
	of all these are all the meat puppets and the meat grinding operations that have just controlled societies around the world.
	And it's been done like this for thousands of years when we started going into fractional reserve banking.
	Sweden was the first bank to really ever show up in the 1600s with fractional reserve banking.
	But of course, the people holding the gold and passing out the gold tender, the paper, instead of the actual physical, it's always been about how they can leverage money and control through money because people stop valuing God and they start valuing certain things. it's always been about how they can leverage money and They don't put their stock in their faith.
	They put their stock in materialism.
	And that has been what I believe to be an age-old problem.
	So the days of the materialistic world who don't believe in God will never probably be known, at least I don't know if we'll ever know them in our lifetime, because we seem to be stuck in this feedback loop of, yes, we know we have a screwed up currency in this country.
	Yes, we know the Western civilization is completely upside down.
	They don't value family.
	They value, as I was listening to one of Mike's broadcasts earlier, you know, the Planned Parenthoods of the world are no different than Hamas.
	They behead babies, right?
	It's no different than what's happening.
	But it's a value structure that I think has to be addressed first.
	And then once we get to that, then we can...
	Like if we all stood up and say we're not paying taxes tomorrow or we all said we're going to take a post at the border, once we understand and reset our value structure, then we can address who they are above the World Economic Forum, above the United Nations.
	Because all of these people that are members of these organizations, while they may be the top in their country as a member of that organization, are still taking a directive from a plan that I don't believe they're coming together on their own.
	I just don't believe it.
	Joe Biden clearly isn't capable of it.
	Is it plausible, Ann, that these people, and I mean this literally, could be possessed?
	Because I submit that it is a spiritual war and I submit that these demons have been at this a long, long time and that they just go from one host to another throughout history.
	And so the they...
	I think internal demons with these people.
	I don't think Klaus Schwab has the ability to critically think for himself.
	I think that there is a demonic force within him that is leading him, and they are perpetrating all the evil in the world through meat puppets, your words.
	I think that's a fair assessment.
	I honestly think that's a fair assessment, Todd.
	Again, at the end of the day, when we all stand up, push back, and bring back God to the center, which has been pushed out.
	I mean, in this country, we've removed God from everything, right?
	So when we pull God back into the center, then we have the opportunity to address who they are.
	And if there isn't a they over and above the Schwabs of the world, then perhaps we can just get rid of the Schwabs of the world and isolate them to their own island and let them live out their existence over there.
	Would that be Epstein Island?
	I said, would that be Epstein Island?
	I'm just curious.
	Yes, I think we should give them Epstein Island.
	It might be a little cramped over there, but yeah, we could give them a few islands down there, Mike.
	They have a lot of space in the underground tunnel system and dungeons.
	They like their sacrifices, too, right?
	Exactly.
	Good questions, Todd, and thank you for that discussion, Anne.
	Sure.
	If it's okay, I do want to shift gears because I want to talk about being an American national.
	So Anne, for our viewers, Anne has done something really extraordinary in terms of her identity as whether or not she's an American citizen with an American passport, an American social security number.
	She is an American national, and Anne, I'd like you to Talk to our audience about that for a little bit from just starting with the basics.
	Assume people have never heard of that before, which is probably the case.
	What is an American national and why did you become an American national?
	Sure.
	An American national is somebody who has corrected their status and is no longer considered a US citizen.
	I removed myself from the Corporation of the United States, effectively declaring my independence and correcting my status back to that of an American.
	Now, what is the demarking line from when we went from being Americans to U.S. citizens?
	Well, in 1868, after the Civil War, during the period of Reconstruction, the Union decided, and these were Crown infiltrators, decided that they wanted to Put everybody under one umbrella.
	We were all Americans.
	We were living as citizens of Virginia, New York, New Jersey, Vermont, whatever.
	And we were noted as citizens of our state.
	We were state citizens working together as a union.
	And we had decided to form Washington, D.C. Well, the union, some people that were loyal to the crown were trying to figure out how they could coalesce everybody back under one umbrella again.
	And so the 14th Amendment in 1868, which took several years to ratify, and it was never truly ratified lawfully because two states were forced to ratify under duress, New Jersey and Ohio.
	But the majority, I'd say 40% of the states said they didn't want to become U.S. citizens.
	It took two years to shove it down their throats, and eventually it was ratified unlawfully, making it a fraud.
	But that made everybody a U.S. citizen.
	And the problem with that is you look at it like this.
	When the EU was made up of member nations, right, or they were all individual nations and they came under the umbrella of the EU, what did we witness most recently in history?
	We watched the EU just completely fold under the weight of its own hegemony, under the weight of its own just lethargy and consumption.
	And of course, it just doesn't work.
	You cannot homogenize everybody, and that's why this forced weaponized migration is destroying Europe and has destroyed majority of Europe and is in the process of destroying America right now.
	So by removing that crown of thorns of the United States citizenry and sending my letters and my affidavits to the members of the government, including the president, vice president, secretary of state, I'm going to go.
	I'm going to go.
	Received a certified copy, and from there I could say, yes, I'm no longer a U.S. citizen, and I codified that by getting my passport from the United States government using the United States government form DS-11, which is what everybody uses to get their passport, but this time I checked not U.S. citizen, and I gave them the evidence of my passport.
	Freedom bundle that was, you know, as I said, filed in the county clerk's office along with the DS-11, and they issued me a U.S. passport noting me as not a U.S. citizen, as a resident alien, in fact.
	And I've used it now to travel outside the country several times, and I've gone through the resident alien line.
	I'm not a U.S. citizen anymore.
	So it does work.
	And from that, it was a principal move for me to do this because what I see the United States corporate government doing with the endless wars and everything else that they've done to trample on all of our constitutional rights, this to me was me standing up saying, I'm a free woman, I'm standing on the law of the land as the Constitution would have me, and I'm not subject to this administrative codified law that a lot of people are sucked into.
	So it was a big move, but we're seeing millions and millions of people do this now, reestablishing and correcting their status, that of not a U.S. citizen, but that of truly an American.
	It's quite beautiful, in fact.
	It's really fascinating, and thank you for walking through the steps of that, because I think a lot of people are taking notes, and they're going to look into this.
	By the way, is there a resource online where people can learn more about how to do that?
	Yes, statenational.us is a resource.
	They also have an American State National ASN Study Guide link on there.
	You can join that.
	It's a very active group.
	There are Telegram channels.
	One that I've used as a resource for a long time is Bobby Lawrence's Telegram channel.
	He is a Telegram channel, BobbyLawrence underscore Telegram.
	That is a telegram channel that has an encyclopedia of information.
	And if you were just to go on that channel and start doing searches for 14th Amendment or whatever, you would find so many resources under just about any topic.
	But this is a really fascinating journey through history.
	And what you will learn is that pretty much, guys, everything about our U.S. history has been a lie.
	And they wanted it that way because, again, it was all about corralling us and tacitly getting us to agree to these contracts where you're opting back in to being a U.S. citizen.
	So currently what I'm working on right now is I did get a driver's license, which you don't need, by the way.
	There's 200 cases in the Supreme Court that will show precedence for not having the requirement of a driver's license to operate when you're traveling in your personal capacity to have a driver's license because that's for a commercial application.
	But I actually did get a driver's license for a commercial application recently, but I also checked the box not a U.S. citizen, and that was in Florida, which means I don't vote anymore because, again, the 14th Amendment, they'll color it up as, ooh, you're a naturalized citizen voter.
	Well, what were we doing before the 14th Amendment in 1868?
	Were we not electing our public servants to that point?
	Well, of course we were.
	We were electing our public servants to serve us, and today we're now voting in our debt slave masters.
	It has gone completely haywire, and nothing has changed.
	I don't care who's in the speakership role right now until we actually get this all straightened out and become truly Americans with a 10th Amendment authority.
	decentralized government where the states are supreme and the federal government is there to serve us.
	We have it completely upside down and backwards now.
	We're freaking serving the federal beast.
	And we've got to stop it.
	No doubt our audience would agree with what you just said.
	But I think they want to ask you What are the practical ramifications of this?
	So you already said you're not voting because you're not an American.
	You're not a U.S. citizen under that system anymore.
	You're an American national.
	And so you're a resident alien is the way the U.S. government would describe you.
	So what are the other practicalities of what that means?
	I mean, can you go purchase a firearm in Florida, for example?
	Oh, absolutely.
	Absolutely, I can purchase a firearm in Florida.
	Yeah, in fact, I have a 50-state carry license now because of this.
	You know, the problem that people don't seem to understand about being a U.S. citizen is that it is more of a hindrance because you've exchanged your God-given rights under the first 10 amendments, right, for the privilege of accepting Social Security that you pay into, the privilege of student loans, the privilege of welfare, the privilege of food stamps.
	But really, tell me about the privilege when the illegal aliens that are flooding our border thanks to the United States corporate government's policies are getting $2,200 a month, but that privilege of your Social Security only equates to $1,400?
	Show me where that is the better deal.
	No, and Social Security is not going to be there.
	Again, these are people who aren't U.S. citizens to pay more money.
	The dollar is becoming worthless anyway.
	Federal pensions are going to vanish in terms of their value.
	Absolutely.
	We all get that.
	But I'm just curious about what other practical things, what impacts does this have on you and the way that you conduct your life and your business in the United States and outside the U.S.? Sure.
	So private member associations are exploding right now.
	This would be in lieu of an LLC, which again is another corporate fabrication and it's in partnership with your government, right, to establish corporations.
	And incidentally, just going, let me just give a footnote here, back in 1868 when we became U.S. citizens, Three years later, the Bar Association was established and the United States government was incorporated.
	So you have these things going on simultaneously.
	It's not a coinkydink, as they say that this would happen.
	It was necessary because, again, the corporate veil is what gives you immunity from being personally liable for a transgression of your corporation.
	Pfizer is learning about how their immunity is about to vanish, by the way, because they knew about the fraud they were doing.
	Immunity is only given to people that don't know or make a mistake and didn't realize it was truly a mistake and didn't know.
	I'm sorry, I'm digressing.
	So other advantages of being outside this corporate system is, as a free people, people don't pay income taxes, but if you read the 16th Amendment statutes It's about persons.
	Well, persons are corporate fiction of people, and that's what the federal government has created when they established you with your social security number, you with your birth certificate.
	That's what created the corporate fiction of you.
	So now you have a straw man of yourself That is a corporate person that is in contract with another corporation, all these for-profit entities of the federal government.
	So all of this stuff is designed to entrap you into thinking you, the free man or woman, are liable for this, but you've allowed yourself to be ensnared because your straw man is ensnared.
	So I have now basically dissolved my straw man relationship with the corporate government.
	I stand off to the side on the law of the land while the administrative corporate government stands in admiralty court because they're all commercial entities and commercial entities are doing governance in commercial courts, which are admiralty courts.
	Remember, the law of commerce happened on the ships on the seas.
	That's why it's called admiralty courts back in the day.
	So I have freed myself of those encumbrances, and I've used their own paperwork, the IRS's own paperwork and forms, to tell them I've dissolved my corporate relationship with them.
	I am now the trustee and benefactor of my Social Security number, which has now been dissolved effectively to the day I was born.
	So I want nothing from them.
	And I don't want them to take anything more from me.
	And there are forms like the Form 56 that spells all this out.
	But before people start picking up forms and doing things, you need to understand what you're doing.
	You need to understand the language, the jurists, the law, the area in which you're standing, and the diction to which you're speaking the language.
	Because if you don't understand where you stand, then they will run you over.
	You've got to be very clear on it.
	So this is not something to be taken lightly, but I've got to tell you, it's a fascinating historical lesson.
	And you feel so much more empowered and you don't feel threatened by these agencies like the FBI and so on and so forth when they come knocking on your door because you know what questions to ask them.
	This is truly, truly fascinating.
	I know Todd has questions too.
	Todd, you'll be up next here.
	But do you have any idea, Anne, how many people have done this, let's say, in the United States?
	Any idea?
	Or any estimates?
	I've actually heard upwards of 30 to 35 million.
	And what was most really quite fascinating to me.
	Yeah, what was fascinating to me.
	Well, this is not a thing that people haven't heard of anymore.
	If you start asking people around, they're like, yeah, I've heard of it or I've done it.
	I can't go and speak anywhere without a bunch of people coming up.
	Thanks to you, I'm free.
	You know, a lot of people have, you know, I get mail, emails, you know, what have you.
	But the State Department, I think about six months ago, maybe you remember seeing this press release they put out that they were running really behind on passports?
	Yeah.
	Well, you know, with the economy and the, you know, Should we say, where it is right now?
	It's not because people are traveling abroad.
	Unlike myself, I'm here for business to learn and understand what's happening on a global scale.
	People right now are hurting financially.
	We've seen cars being repossessed, homes are going into default, all this kind of stuff.
	They're running six months behind issuing passports because people are correcting their status.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Okay, Todd, over to you.
	Okay, thank you.
	It's a lot of process right there.
	I know.
	As Mike knows and the viewers know, I have decentralizeddirectory.com and part of what I offer people is an opportunity to be able to enter an entity that is tax advantaged.
	It is one of these entities that is lawful and it allows you to step out of the public into the private sector.
	Through my consultations, I've had several people saying that they are really interested in becoming American nationals and going through the process.
	And I always get a little bit nervous not knowing the how exactly.
	I know there's a lot of people out there that say that they have done it.
	But then when I ask the question, well, is there a specific service that you use to actually walk you through it and hold your hand so that you don't step on any landmines?
	As a matter of fact, I had one consultancy this week where the gentleman said, you know, I'm going to go down this American national path because I can then in turn sue the IRS for my last three years of taxes.
	And Man, I wish I could do that.
	That, to me, is like poking the bear.
	And so I don't know if you have any experience with that or any...
	I like to ask the question, what could go wrong?
	Because if I did something like this, man, and the other shoe dropped, and all of a sudden it's just because I didn't file this or I didn't do that correct, and then ultimately my world's turned upside down, I think...
	All of us have to be really, really careful here and make sure that we don't advance unless we are absolutely sure we're in the right hands.
	Sure.
	There are services like Weiss-Parris and Paymon's Freedom Law that actually have services that will hold your hand for IRS type of stuff.
	The thing about the IRS is they're a paper tiger.
	And if they send you, they'll never, first of all, knock on your door and they'll never call you.
	So anybody that says somebody from the IRS showed up at their door, they're not the IRS. They'll send you paper.
	They'll terrorize you with paper.
	But you cannot ignore it.
	You must respond.
	Right.
	So depending on what the nature is of the paperwork, I haven't received anything from the IRS, mind you.
	So I can't speak to myself personally, but I know I've spoken to the experts and they'll tell you, well, this is, you know, you might get a letter that says whatever.
	And this is how we respond.
	And you just as long as you keep responding, you can lawfully make it all go away.
	Because, again, when you're standing in the private, as you just said, Todd, they don't have a stake or a claim to you.
	Now, I will say this.
	I have LLCs and I'm going to convert them probably mostly to PMAs.
	I'm not sure if I'm going to keep all of them, but I have a couple.
	Some of them have been around forever that really don't even do business anymore.
	But corporations will file taxes.
	That is lawful.
	Free people will pay sales tax and tariff.
	So when I go to the local store and I buy groceries or what have you, I pay sales tax.
	That is lawful.
	What about property tax?
	I'm actually exploring that right now.
	We just bought a house and I'll have a property tax bill due here actually starting this month.
	Although I think most of it was probably paid during the closing.
	I'd have to double check the paperwork, but let's just say it's not.
	Let's say I have a prorated share due starting in November and we have a six month window to pay it, right?
	You can set up your property into a trust, into a common law trust, and that first year pay the property tax.
	The thing about property tax that people don't understand is that it's really all about recording the deed.
	And once the deed is recorded, they track you that way.
	So if you bought a house and you recorded the deed, but then you sell that property Trust, the property that's in a trust, to another trust, common law trust, and that trust never records the deed, but the first trust tells the property appraiser that they sold it so that they can no longer be taxed because they don't own it anymore.
	How do you track a property if they never record the deed?
	That's interesting.
	That's it.
	Right.
	I've heard people going down the elodial tidal path, and I was going to go down that path.
	You can do that.
	It's long.
	It's complicated.
	It's long.
	And you better never want to sell your property again if that's the case.
	Like, if it's been in your family for 152 years, that's where I'm like, okay, that makes sense.
	But, man, if you do think that you're going to sell it, it would be a nightmare to reverse that process.
	Think about what you're asking, though.
	You are now suggesting that we should be okay with that feudalistic system.
	This is why we left 250 years ago and we gave King James III the Heisman and said, see you, dude, I'm not paying this garbage anymore.
	They came here, they got land patents, they were granted the property, and they made something of it.
	Whether they were a blacksmith or farmers or they ran a school or whatever, they had the lock, stock, and barrel rights to that property.
	They owned it through and through.
	They weren't paying property tax.
	This, of course, is another government grab, financial grab, and another way for them to grab your land if you don't pay on time.
	So we need to start to think like, wait a minute, this is all wrong.
	Why is this even happening?
	Why are we allowing this to be the case?
	And this is the kind of conversations when it talks about truly being free that I want Americans to start thinking about, hey, why is this just okay?
	Why do we just pay it?
	Or why are we trying to figure out how to cheat the system?
	Nah, let's figure out how to, you know, fix the system because that's clearly, you know, that's just more theft in my humble opinion.
	I want to shift gears to financial freedom.
	Sure.
	So you travel a lot.
	You're a world traveler and you're an American national.
	So I guess a number of questions.
	What do you think are the best assets for mobility and also preserving wealth, gold, silver, maybe some crypto?
	I don't know.
	You tell me.
	And then do you have regular bank accounts?
	Do you use fiat currency or do you try to limit that use?
	You don't have to give up any personal details, obviously, but in broad strokes, how do you interact with finances in a way that protects your freedom?
	Okay, so I do love gold and silver, and I've moved basically out of the equity space into gold and silver to preserve what I've saved for the last so many years, right?
	That's a preservation move, and I do believe we're going to see a massive slide in real estate, in the stock market, in the bond market.
	Look, they're already selling off treasuries right now.
	China is going to deep sixes, so are the BRICS countries.
	They're going to absolutely liquidate and crash the bond market and the stock market with it.
	And along with that, you know, BlackRock and them are just waiting in the wings to scoop real estate.
	So if you own your real estate right now, ride it out and be glad you own it lock, stock and barrel because owning nothing and being happy really isn't the key to success or happiness in the end.
	That being said, for liquidity purposes, I actually, as I travel, I carry cash.
	And while so long as these people will take US dollars in cash, I use it because I don't want to keep a bunch of cash lying around.
	Mike, as you and I both know, it's not going to be worth much here in the not-too-distant future.
	So while I can still exchange that for hard goods and assets and services, I'm doing it as fast as I can, turning it into things like backup power supplies, extra communication devices for my family, extra generators, all that kind of stuff to weather the storm that's coming, extra food.
	I'm exchanging it into hard assets that we're going to need because, again, when it comes to the border system, food is currency.
	So I'm turning it into that.
	But for day-to-day, I try not to use my credit card because I really don't want them knowing what I'm doing anymore.
	Sure.
	You know, I know it's unfortunately at this point necessary evil, but I do have a little bit of crypto, but I'm not proficient enough like you to say, oh, I use crypto.
	I'm traveling with somebody who's like, oh, yeah, I know where all the crypto ATMs are.
	That's how I move money around.
	I'm like, you know what?
	I need to probably get on board with that because I don't want to be on CBDC. And I know pretty soon...
	There's going to be terms of service that they sneak in to one of these banks, even my credit union, that will automatically opt me into something.
	So I've actually stopped all automatic withdrawals from my accounts, and I write checks again because I don't want to have the terms of service sort of say, oh, because you agreed to an auto-daft, that means you're agreeing to convert your whatever's in the bank into CBDC, and then they own me.
	That's a nice idea.
	Yeah, so I've gone back to check writing, which, you know, is sort of like, ugh, but at the same token.
	You know, I just don't want to be owned.
	You have to put a price on your freedom, and if it's an extra half hour for once a month for me to write and pay bills, so be it.
	That's the price of freedom.
	There you go.
	Todd, your reaction?
	My reaction, I'm just going to kind of rewind a little bit.
	You'd mentioned that you have some LLCs, and Mike, I had Andy Sheckman on my show today, and I asked him the question if he was familiar with the Corporate Transparency Act.
	Are you both familiar with the Corporate Transparency Act?
	No.
	No.
	Oh, my God.
	He wasn't either.
	And this is the biggest bombshell that you really have to start researching.
	You know, what it's going to do is it's going to impose new significant reporting requirements for anybody who has a corporation, an LLC. I mean, basically everybody but...
	Banks, insurance companies, people that you would consider to be the Druid Babylonian bastards out there.
	But the nasty part of this is they're teeing this up that it's all about national defense.
	So what you're going to have to do is you are going to have to report everything about your company by the end of the year.
	Wait until December.
	You're going to have all of these commercials on TV with attorneys saying, Oh, if you haven't done this by now, you've got to call this 1-800 number and we'll help you and everything.
	But you're going to have to report this to the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, FinCEN, and you're going to have to upload a – go through KYC of everybody in your company that has any position at all.
	And I'm talking about this is somebody who has, you know, one person in their LLC or they have 10 people in their corporation – But tomorrow, well, I know this will come out later, but Mike, just to share with you, and you may want to get him on,
	but I'm going to have Jonathan Levy on, who was the ex-SEC attorney, and he's going to be on to talk about the Corporate Transparency Act and how it's absolutely going to be the biggest land grab by the government ever.
	It sounds like the Financial Prisoner Registration Program.
	You're all being barcoded.
	These are all the unelected bureaucrats that none of us chose.
	They're just layering in more job security for them, more ways to grab the money out of our pockets and control us.
	If they can destroy a company that you have or Mike has or I have, because we're not playing along with the global parlance of One world government, you know, and we're in the public-private partnerships.
	They're going to throw us in chains, lock us up, and they're going to make sure and destroy our company on a technicality that they just made out of thin air.
	It has absolutely nothing to do with true lawful business.
	It has zero to do with it.
	Yeah, and this, they are imposing like meaningful fines, like $5,000 a day up to two years of jail time if you don't report your company.
	I mean, it's like the Patriot Act when they put that in and they put lipstick on that pig that it was all about national security.
	This is the same thing.
	So this is something everybody should pay attention to.
	If you have an LLC, a corporation, a business, just please pay attention to corporate transparency.
	Well, there's one more reason to convert to a PMA. There you go.
	A private member association.
	And you know what?
	If you, let's say, I'm going to give you an example.
	Let's say you had a business partner who, when the business dissolved, your business brand had to go away.
	And you had signed some kind of an agreement that said, fine, the brand is gone or whatever.
	But one of the business partners thought that was wholly unfair because they felt like they were set up, for instance, and wanted to get that brand back.
	Under an LLC environment, you can't because you are governed by the corporate, you know, the LLC structure and by the corporate operational agreement that your attorneys and you and your partner sign.
	But if you set up under a PMA, guess what?
	You are not.
	You're now operating in the private.
	You are not a party to any of the administrative laws that the LLCs and the Secretary of State of the world have any jurisdiction over you.
	You're completely out of it.
	So you could basically mirror the same name and brand of a company under a PMA and have zero problems because you were totally out of the jurisdiction of where your ex-business partner could come after you.
	They have no rights to do anything because you're operating in the private.
	Yeah, I'm reading here, entities exempted from the term reporting company includes tax-exempt entities.
	So there's your PMA, I presume, such as nonprofits, political organizations, and certain trusts.
	But this is kind of cool.
	Then, subsidiaries of exempt entities.
	So your PMA, and I'm no lawyer, but can a PMA then create an LLC? If a PMA can create an LLC, that would be exempt based upon what I'm reading here.
	But again, I don't know.
	I'm just spitballing.
	I don't know the answer to that question, but I'm going to find out.
	No one's ever proposed that to me.
	I know who to ask.
	Okay, great.
	That's fascinating.
	It's starting to sound like a seven-layer cake here.
	I will get back to you on that one.
	I think that's interesting.
	I've got a PMA wrapped in an LLC surrounded by a partnership and then a C-Corp and a non-profit.
	But somebody's going to figure out how to structure this.
	You sound like Hunter Biden.
	I know.
	And then my dad bails me out of everything.
	Yeah.
	Exactly.
	And you've got money going everywhere.
	I know.
	Hunter Biden, look at you.
	Little Hunter over there.
	Yeah.
	Well, it sounds like Hunter Biden except have not yet mentioned crack pipes and Chinese prostitutes.
	That would be the other thing to add into that.
	Oh, come on, Mike.
	Who's under the death?
	Let's get real.
	My police dog, actually.
	I know.
	He's over here.
	But anyway...
	This is really fascinating, Anne.
	I mean, what we appreciate about you is that you are actually doing a lot of this, Anne.
	I mean, you had the courage to take the steps and do this and explore this, and then you're sharing this with other people.
	And not too many people are willing to do that.
	Plus, you're covering all the current events and the open border situation and so on.
	So any final thoughts, Anne, to wrap this up today?
	I mean, this has been fascinating, but what do you want to leave us with?
	You know, we are at that point in history where in 250 years, they're going to look back at all of us and they're going to say, you were either the greatest generation and you led the revolution to save America or you failed.
	And I cannot ask our fellow Americans any more passionately than I am right now, please, Be that big name.
	Be one of the founding fathers that rebirthed this great nation.
	Don't be a footnote of somebody who failed and didn't try.
	When your grandchildren, your great-grandchildren, they want to look back and go, that was my great-grandmother or great-grandfather that stood up for us and rebirthed this glorious nation as God intended with his second covenant promise to us when he gave us America.
	Let's not forsake what God gave us as, I think, the most beautiful Wow,
	beautiful.
	Absolutely.
	And the website, folks, is rightnow.news.
	That's Ann VanderSteel's website.
	Ann, when is your show with us on Brighteon.tv?
	8 o'clock Eastern Time, Monday through Friday.
	Can't miss it.
	Tune into brighteon.tv every night at 8 o'clock or rightnow.news.
	Everything on Brighteon is streaming on my channel all the time.
	Okay, outstanding.
	And we are so honored to have you with us on this network, and we really honor what you've shared with us today.
	Thank you for taking the time.
	Thank you.
	All right, and say hello to the Mennonites.
	Yeah, I have my medicine sitting over there.
	I've got a bunch of leaves.
	I'm going to make tea right now.
	Nice.
	Okay, outstanding.
	Say hi to the womenites, too.
	The womenites.
	Okay, I've got to keep it gender neutral there.
	Okay, thank you, Anne.
	It's been a pleasure.
	All right.
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	That's the platform.
	Well, Todd, Ann VanderSteel is like a force of nature.
	She really is.
	The definition of, you know, one of my favorite terms, unconscious competence.
	She is a force of nature.
	Very, very smart.
	I really enjoyed listening to her.
	Oh, this is why I'm so thrilled to have her on our network, because she knows what she's talking about.
	She's got first-hand experience.
	She's an outstanding reporter, and she has this knowledge base that's just extraordinary.
	She's covered so many issues for so long, but she's also demonstrating what we teach here on the show, which is decentralized living.
	Hey, guess what?
	What?
	If you are going to decentralize, you know what you need to do?
	Tell me.
	Decentralized.
	So that's what she did, right?
	She's actually doing it, yeah.
	Yeah, she's walking the walk, and I love it, you know?
	Yeah, this is not an intellectual exercise to just talk about it.
	Like, oh, wouldn't that be cool if we fill in the blank?
	Well, and I think you and I are both the same.
	We don't want to be able to tell anybody to do anything if we haven't done it ourselves, if we haven't, you know, tried it ourselves.
	I don't want to be a subject matter expert on private crypto if I haven't gone through the learning curve, you know, to be able to acquire it.
	Or, you know, precious metals or a food forest or a tax-advantaged, you know, vehicle.
	It's just like...
	We're not promoting anything that could potentially harm.
	Well, right.
	And also, our job is to give power to the viewer so that you, the viewer, you decide what's right for you.
	You can consider all these things.
	Like what Ann VanderSteel was just talking about, I haven't gone through that process.
	It's a little intimidating, actually, to think about all the steps.
	It's intimidating, and I don't know.
	There's just a lot of questions, and I don't know if people are prepared for the potential ramifications.
	I wanted to ask her if she generates income, and if she does, then...
	The employer, I guess she doesn't sign a W-2, so how would you go to the employer and say, yeah, I don't need to pay or file?
	It can be complicated.
	But in her case, you know, she works for herself, so that's not an issue.
	But I understand what you're asking, maybe for someone else who still works for an employer.
	How would that work?
	I don't know.
	Yeah, that's right.
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, if you are a W-2 employee, you're dealing with a company that they have their set of rules.
	So if you're going to get outside the system, those are the type of things that you need to consider.
	If you're a 1099 employee, I think it's way easier.
	There are different ways for you to be able to take your Social Security number out of the equation and be a contractor using a different EIN number that may be tax-exempt.
	But all of these things need to be considered.
	And I just found through some of my own consultations, a lot of people are talking about Becoming an American national like that passport is going to be the Willy Wonka ticket out of here.
	And it just scares me a little bit.
	I'm not saying don't pursue it at all.
	I'm just saying that do your research and find a resource who has been there, done that, walked people through successfully.
	I would be cautious just Googling everything and doing it on my own.
	Yeah, I would definitely want to have the help.
	If I were going to go down this process, I would want somebody who's gone through it, for sure.
	But what she really pointed out that's even more frightening is the fact that we've all been suckered into a trick by default.
	We've been made wage slaves in this system in which we have no control.
	And we know it's a scam, too.
	We know Social Security is a scam.
	Absolutely.
	Yes.
	We're never going to see that money again.
	And the money printing is a scam itself.
	So no matter how much you save, no matter how big your Social Security check is one day, well, you know, guess what?
	Inflation is eating away that whole value anyway because they keep printing money.
	That's right.
	It's kind of like, you know, you and I, Todd, have talked about how to get out of the banking system and into honest money, things that hold value, which, by the way, right now, gold and silver and crypto are doing very well.
	Even with war in the Middle East.
	And yet the dollar is collapsing.
	So I think we have a good grasp on how to do that in terms of finance.
	What Ann talks about is how to do that with your identity.
	And that's really a fascinating and very important subject.
	Yeah, I love it.
	I love it.
	And so, with the passport, the other thing that, you know, comes along with all of this, if you then do not have a driver's license, you don't need to.
	But what I found through my three-count lawsuit against Costco, Mike, is at every level, the court system really doesn't give a crap about you.
	They are fighting against you, and a judge or whatever...
	They may take a look at, oh, American National or whatever, you know, and just dismiss it.
	And all of a sudden now, you know, you're in trouble, even though you shouldn't be, but it's like you've got to be prepared for a little bit of a fight.
	And I'm not saying that's bad.
	I'm just saying that you've got to be prepared for it.
	You have to back up your position.
	You have to be able to.
	And Anne said that, too, that you need to be knowledgeable.
	You need to know what you're doing because you need to be able to articulate it.
	Right, right.
	And so I encourage everyone to go down this path.
	Don't get me wrong.
	I just encourage people to be just hyper-cautious.
	Be smart.
	Yeah, that's good advice.
	But I want to say on the record, I'd be happy to just be a Texan.
	I want to be in the Republic of Texas, which is its own country with its own money supply backed by gold.
	Yes.
	Or silver.
	Right.
	I don't need to be part of the Washington, D.C. wage slave system.
	That's right.
	And I think that this is going to become a more common question as we see the financial collapse of the United States of America.
	It will be followed by secession, probably, breaking up of the country into smaller nations.
	Yeah.
	I mean, it seems inevitable.
	I know Texas is going to be here.
	Texas isn't going anywhere.
	Nope.
	Nope.
	So I want everybody to know out there, and you know this, Mike, that if we were never conned, and we didn't know any better, but if we never filed our very first W-2, We just didn't file it.
	Even if we got them every year.
	But we didn't file that first one.
	Unless we worked for the government or we lived in Delaware, we would not be obligated to pay taxes.
	But when you file that first W-2, you enter a contract with the IRS that you are now on the hamster wheel.
	For any of you who are like 15 years old, 16 years old, just listen to that sage counsel a little bit because we all got conned.
	And regarding our social security numbers, Mike, I don't know about you, but when...
	I mean, I was a pretty good athlete.
	I outswom 28 million competitors to my mom's oven.
	But when I was born, I didn't have a vote whether or not that social security number, the corporatization of my name, you know...
	I just wasn't smart enough at that point in time to bow out, Mike.
	Yeah, but I know quite a few people who have now grown.
	I mean, they were kids, but now they're adults in their 20s who have never had a Social Security number, never filed a tax return, never been vaccinated, nothing.
	And they are some of the brightest and most capable people that I've ever known.
	May I just ask?
	Homeschooled, right?
	Yeah, homeschooled for sure.
	I knew it!
	Yes, yeah, homeschooled.
	And there are a lot of people who live outside the system.
	Yeah.
	And even the IRS probably frets over the fact that there are tens of millions of Americans who never file a tax return.
	Right.
	They don't go through any process.
	They just flat out don't file.
	They don't file.
	Yeah.
	And for a lot of them, the IRS is probably like, well, that person makes...
	$7 an hour or whatever, it's not even worth the IRS. It's not profitable to be able to go after this.
	But in the meantime, my company will get a letter every...
	Five days.
	From the IRS. Oh, you failed to pay $2.61, according to our calculations, on your last payment of half a million dollars or whatever.
	And so you owe us $2.61, and so you'll burn hundreds of dollars on accounting time and internal time to write a check for $2.61.
	Yes.
	Which is completely insane.
	Yes.
	But there are ways to be able to...
	Tell us about Decentralized Directory.
	DecentralizedDirectory.com.
	Probably the most popular thing within the website is people come to be able to talk about a tax advantage strategy that allows you to be able to go from the public into the private.
	I'm going to bring up your site here.
	Okay, thank you.
	DecentralizedDirectory.com.
	Yeah, if you scroll down and you go to the key partners supporting decentralization, and then just click on that, you're going to be able to find, I think there it is, right there.
	Which one?
	If you click...
	Oh, click here to explore?
	Right there.
	Oh, okay.
	Uh-huh.
	Yeah.
	If you go there, and then if you scroll down, you're going to see Health Ranger store a little lower.
	Oh, cool.
	Oh, here it is.
	Tax-saving strategies.
	Yeah, so if you click on that, I really encourage people to go there and click on it and just read through that.
	That'll give you a little bit of insight into what we can discuss.
	But this is something that is so powerful, and Mike, we've talked about it.
	This is a vehicle that the elites use, frankly.
	And again, I state it's lawful.
	I have had my own for the last four years, and it's been very, very powerful.
	Wow.
	It is the best investment that I have ever made in my life.
	My wife will concur.
	I'm to the point, Mike, now where at the beginning of these consultations, I have to say this.
	I have to tell them what a UNA is not.
	It is not too good to be true.
	That's how I have to qualify it because that's what people think when they go through it.
	But I encourage people to, you know, if you're interested, I really, really am an advocate for people keeping more of what they earn.
	Yeah, especially, you know, we've entered an age here where our government uses taxpayer money to do some very immoral and unethical things, obviously, while ignoring, I mean, they're funding wars, you know, all over the world, and funding bombs and whatever.
	Some of those bombs are being used to kill civilians, which is in violation even of our weapons export laws.
	But then at the same time, the U.S., The federal government refuses to protect our own borders.
	So it's like, there's a side of me that wouldn't mind paying if the money actually went to do things that help the nation, right?
	Of course, of course.
	You know, they say building schools, building roads, right?
	Building a border wall, whatever, to protect us.
	But that's not where it's going.
	I bet the Mennonites contribute on things that go towards the greater good, right?
	Yeah.
	It's that idea.
	It's that idea.
	Certainly.
	But, you know, this is the part of the show, and we'll end up coming back to Ann.
	She was just a great guest, but it's timely, you know, for Ask Mike Anything.
	Oh, okay, okay.
	And, Mike, I have a couple of questions.
	So, did you grow up on a ranch?
	No.
	I grew up in a suburb, but my grandparents had a big farm, and I visited frequently.
	So at a young age, I was working on that farm and learning to drive tractors when I could barely reach the clutch pedal and things like that.
	Okay, so this wasn't just kind of a hobby when you graduated from college and said, oh, I want a ranch.
	No, no, not at all.
	I've always enjoyed being out in the country, rural setting.
	And I've always had a big heart, big empathy for animals.
	Yes.
	You know, including...
	The cattle or the goats or the ranch animals out there always wanted them to have good welfare and good conditions to live in.
	But I must have been 14 when my grandfather put me on a John Deere tractor and said, you need to go rake those 80 acres there of the Yeah, - Right. -
	And it's got two gear shifts, two levers.
	You gotta work 'em both. - But what a gift your grandpa gave you, right?
	Yeah.
	To be able to do that.
	Do you attribute that to being, because I know you've always been wise beyond your years, do you attribute that to jump-starting that?
	I don't know.
	It's hard to say.
	It's probably a lot of factors.
	I was very fortunate to have parents that were very much interested in my learning, teaching me things.
	My parents bought me an Apple computer when it came out right at the very beginning.
	Oh, wow.
	Like 1981 or 79 or 80, whatever year that was, I had a computer before anybody had a computer.
	That's amazing.
	And I was writing code.
	Yeah, no, I was writing code in basic.
	When I was in whatever year that was, when I was in school, I was writing code on paper because I was bored out of my mind in school.
	So I'd write computer code on paper, then I would go home at night and type it in and execute the code.
	On the Apple.
	Yeah.
	That's amazing.
	Yeah.
	That's amazing.
	But you know what?
	I mean, sorry for asking personal questions, but I know a lot of people are, I'm interested.
	If I'm interested, I think others are interested too, because it's just, I, you know, it is a dream.
	I think it would be a dream to actually live on a ranch.
	Oh, yeah.
	I live vicariously through you a bit.
	Yeah.
	Well, I love living in the outdoors.
	I love having lots of different animals.
	And it challenges you all the time.
	Right.
	And caring for animals as they age and they die from old age.
	I mean, I'm probably the only person who has chickens that die from old age.
	Right.
	So I've probably had 100 hens over the years, and every one of them is going to die, and usually you just find them like, oh, there it is.
	It's dead.
	Had a heart attack or whatever, but they die from old age.
	But chickens actually, they also, the roosters get hip problems.
	I don't know if anybody knew about this, but if your roosters live long enough, they start to get hip problems and they have trouble walking.
	They do.
	And their feet get bigger and bigger and bigger to the point where they have massive, thick feet.
	And the claw on the back, which is their fighting claw, also gets huge.
	And so if you've ever seen a rooster that's lived 10 years, it's got massive feet and fighting hooks.
	Is the fighting hook as big as Escape from L.A.? No, no.
	That's the custom knife that I designed.
	That's about to be launched, by the way, in the next...
	That's awesome.
	Well, let's get back to Ann.
	Thank you for answering those questions.
	It's kind of my favorite part of the show.
	But yeah, Ann, I hope you're watching to the end, but thank you for coming to join us.
	You were fantastic, and I hope it's not the last time.
	Love to have her on as a record.
	Yeah, Ann's great.
	She's got a lot of experience and knowledge.
	She's obviously very good at what she does, and she's not intimidated by anybody or anything.
	That's the thing.
	She's just driving forward, and she has a lot of wisdom to share with a lot of people.
	She sure does.
	We're lucky.
	I would say it's great that she's an American, but you have to qualify that she's an American national.
	Exactly.
	I'm just glad to have her on our continent.
	We need more people like that.
	Yes.
	She should be a Texan.
	There you go.
	She has the Texas spirit.
	Yeah, see, that's just it.
	I think there are many of us who live all over the country who are really Texans and we don't even know it.
	Yeah, that's true.
	You can spot them, right?
	I think I was a Texan long before I moved to Texas.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	And now I'm not going anywhere else.
	This is the best country in the world.
	I say that on purpose.
	Yeah, I know.
	I do want to take a moment, Todd, before we wrap this up, and just looking back on all the episodes that we've done, it's over 20 now.
	We've covered a lot of bases here.
	We've covered off-grid finance.
	We've covered food forests, growing food.
	We've interviewed people about cold fusion and off-grid energy and now off-grid citizenship or being an American national.
	What do you think are the most profound Maybe interviews or messages or bits of wisdom that we've covered here together on this show, in your opinion.
	I'm going to go back to One interview that I have listened to probably, and sometimes I don't listen to it at all.
	Because you were doing the interview, you don't have to listen to it.
	Right, right.
	But most of them I'll listen to.
	But the one that I've listened to four times now is Pastor Todd.
	No kidding.
	Yes.
	Todd Coconato.
	Todd Coconato.
	And if you haven't watched that, please go do that because I just felt like...
	I felt the Holy Spirit was part of that show.
	And it was just...
	Man, I just love that guy, and I love the message, and I love the energy that we all had.
	But the other thing is, I would say that every...
	It's hard to cherry-pick the others, because every single one, it just seems as so...
	They've been so diverse.
	Absolutely.
	Isn't that cool about the show?
	Yeah, and I'm like, whoa, I just learned...
	A ton today.
	I just learned a ton that I didn't know about.
	And you just don't know what you're going into with some of these.
	And the one theme that I've said often in our after parties is stating that our guests share one trait, unconscious competence.
	They're just very good at what they do, very competent.
	I feel blessed to be part of this and I feel blessed to have such amazing guests and I want to give a shout out to your team who has gone out and found all of these amazing guests.
	I mean, truly just fantastic, fantastic job.
	We have had a lot of amazing guests, but I want to say too, Todd, what's been great about working with you on this is how you dive into every topic, like building out the food forest and exploring.
	Whatever our guests tell us, you're actually on top of it, and in many cases doing it.
	And now you're doing frequent interviews with Andy Sheckman, for example, on gold and silver and BRICS nations and so on.
	So you've been very transformative.
	In this process, over however many months it's been that we started doing this, you're like a whole new person.
	I really am.
	I mean, when you think about it, it's just like I decided that this was going to be kind of a control-delete part of my life, not in a negative way, but in a positive way, to where if I'm going to be learning about all of this, I don't want to just talk.
	I want to walk the walk.
	And if I'm concerned about my energy inflation with my energy bill, guess what?
	I'm going to figure out how to decentralize.
	And I got solar, right?
	If I'm concerned about food inflation, I'm going to do something about it.
	I talk about getting the green dollars out of the bank and into gold, silver, private crypto, but what about getting it into food?
	It's going to be abundant.
	It's going to feed us.
	So, you know, that's been part of my journey.
	I mean, goodness, if I could have nuclear fusion machine, I guarantee I would be the tip of the spear.
	I'm going to have one.
	I'm going to get one.
	I'm going to keep...
	Pressuring my contact there to get a cold fusion machine.
	But, you know, we interviewed Robert Kiyosaki for this show a little while back.
	And I don't know if you recall, but, you know, Kiyosaki, he's an intellectual giant, especially in the area of finance and asset protection.
	And he said not only does he recommend gold and silver, and he said the dollar is worth toilet paper, but that he also takes ownership of oil companies and He doesn't just buy their stock.
	He doesn't do that.
	He takes ownership equity positions in companies that produce energy.
	I love that.
	Do you realize how much wealth he's going to experience because of tensions in the Middle East and what's happening to energy prices?
	I mean, Robert Kiyosaki, he's always ahead of the curve.
	He saw it coming, he put his money into oil, and now oil's probably going to go to $150, $200 a barrel, maybe more.
	At least, yeah.
	Yeah.
	And where's gold and silver going?
	Also going to skyrocket, probably.
	Yes, yes.
	And certain types, I think privacy crypto is also going to go, it's probably going to be right along there with gold and silver is my guess.
	Absolutely.
	I mean, I was really astonished to see how resilient Monero has been in terms of its price, even though there's been a lot of volatility in prices of consumer goods and energy prices and so on.
	But I've got to say, Todd, everything that we have shared with people, what we've helped teach and what our guests have taught, this is the best how-to encyclopedia of decentralized living that anybody's put together.
	It really is.
	I shared earlier within this interview that tomorrow I'm going to have Jonathan Levy.
	He worked for the SEC. He's going to come on my show and talk about this CTA. He told me, he goes, I don't know if you know this, but I've spoken to people all over the world Is that right?
	I didn't know that.
	He said, no, I'm dead serious.
	That's very cool.
	That's very cool.
	So, yeah, hopefully we make an impact.
	I mean, I was thinking the other day about it's going to be really cool.
	We should probably note what the first episode was and make sure we celebrate a one-year anniversary when we get there, Mike.
	Oh, absolutely.
	I completely agree.
	We should do that.
	I wanted to bring up, too, real quick, don't forget, folks, about Above Phone.
	So AbovePhone.com slash DTV, that's our affiliate partner here.
	As it says, replace big tech with your private ecosystem.
	Now, wherever you get a de-Googled phone, I mean, definitely check out Above Phone.
	This is the best package that's been put together.
	And you can get a SIM card that you pay for with crypto.
	So it's really anonymous.
	But whatever you decide to do in terms of your own technology, people, get off of your Google Android phone.
	Get off of your Apple iPhone.
	iPhone.
	Stop using Gmail, people.
	For God's sake, people still send me emails from Gmail.
	Stop using Gmail.
	Stop using Google spreadsheets.
	I don't know why a company would put all their financial secrets in a spreadsheet online in the Google Cloud.
	You know Google's reading that.
	Oh, yes.
	So I just want to reinforce to our audience, you know, you've watched these episodes.
	You've learned a lot.
	Put it into action.
	What's the right term for this?
	D-big tech your life.
	Yeah, I mean, just get off of the systems that enslave you.
	And we've given you now in over 20 episodes.
	Oh, there it is!
	What?
	D-slavement.
	D-slavement.
	Yeah, exactly.
	That is a great term.
	Perfect.
	Maybe we should just change the show to deslavement.
	I like it.
	We are all about deslavement.
	That's great.
	This is what we teach.
	If people implement the tools that we've talked about and the guests that we've interviewed on this show, your life will be fundamentally more free in a profound way.
	Even if you just implement 10% of what we've shared here.
	You will be more free.
	Yeah, and I just want to give a shout out again to Above Phone.
	After we interviewed Ramiro, what did I do?
	I bought an above phone with Monero, Mike.
	Right on.
	And Ramiro is so great.
	He and his team.
	I had the opportunity.
	He spent about an hour with me.
	And then I had to travel a little bit.
	And so I didn't get my SIM card set up and everything until I got back.
	And then so he had his team.
	They were on with me for another...
	Maybe an hour and a half even.
	They just hold your hands through it all.
	They're great.
	Romero has been great.
	We've got to get him back on because they're rolling out a new laptop.
	I know.
	We'll reach out to Romero.
	He's such a perfectionist.
	I'll tell you what.
	I think it's ready to go.
	I have dibs on the laptop too.
	I'm supposed to be in line to get one too.
	Maybe we'll get them at the same time.
	That would be cool.
	Then we can feature it on the show.
	It's a Linux laptop, for those who are wondering.
	It is, and I can't wait to learn that.
	It's a privacy-protected Linux operating system, but it looks and acts like Windows.
	Yes, it's going to be great.
	So, yeah, look, everybody, if you're paying attention, don't just watch Do.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Deslavement.
	Deslavement.
	Trademark.
	We teach deslavement.
	What else do you want to know?
	Okay.
	Thank you, Todd, for joining me and for being the co-host of this show.
	It's been a pleasure working with you on this.
	We've done some powerful episodes.
	I think we've helped a lot of people find freedom in an unfree world.
	And that's something to be proud of, and I'm just humbled and thrilled to be able to keep doing this.
	Thank you, Mike.
	Thank you for joining me today, Todd.
	Excellent.
	Everybody watching, thank you.
	You know, wherever you are, have a great weekend, and we hope you keep coming back.
	Okay, yeah.
	I'm sure they will.
	Thank all of you for watching.
	We appreciate your support.
	And remember, find our website at decentralized.tv, and there you'll find links to a couple of our affiliate sponsors there, including Above Phone, like I mentioned.
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	So we had to build our own, and that's brighteon.com.
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	Eastern on brighttown.tv, which has many other shows and many other hosts and amazing guests every single day.
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