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March 8, 2024 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Fighting for health freedom against government tyranny...
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Welcome to today's interview on Brighteon.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.
And you may recall that a couple of years ago, I began recommending and talking about a product that I had used myself.
We don't carry this product, by the way.
This is a company called Clear.
It's spelled X-L-E-A-R.com.
That's their website.
Actually, show the website, if you would, to my producers.
X-L-E-A-R dot com.
And they have a nasal spray xylitol based formula that I found to be incredibly effective during these times when we're under attack by so many, well, insults to our immune system and, you know, whatever other people are shedding on us and so on and so forth.
I love this product.
And then I found out that they were being, well, attacked by the regulators and the government for having something that actually works.
And so we reached out to the founder, Nathan Jones, to join us today to talk about Xylitol, what his company is doing, And also about health freedom, the freedom to choose your supplements and solutions that you know are working and that are also based on good evidence.
So welcome, Mr.
Jones.
It's an honor to have you on today.
Well, thank you for having me.
Anytime.
It's great to have you here.
I'm so happy to meet you because I've been, as you know, a longtime fan of the product that you've created.
I mean, I've used Xylitol in many different ways over the years and your various products, too.
It's not only the Xylitol nasal spray, but talk to us about, just real quick, an introduction of you and your company.
So, I'm Nathan Jones.
I started Clear about, what was it, 24 years ago in 2000.
Before that, I used to do underwater welding.
I worked out in Louisiana and off the southern coast of Texas, out in the oil fields.
Before that, I was in the military, come college.
But the way that I got clear into this company is my dad is a physician, and he is the one who started mixing xylitol into saline nasal spray and washing out their noses of kids in his practice.
And why he started doing that is because there's decades of studies, going back to the late 1960s, where they were doing research looking at how xylitol prevents tooth decay.
And it's very effective.
They've got thousands of studies showing that.
And it works in a completely different way than if you believe that fluoride does what it does.
And that's a very arguable, debatable thing.
What fluoride they claim it does is it remineralizes your teeth, but it doesn't do anything for the infection that is in your mouth that is causing that.
You have strep mutans in your mouth that is taking carbohydrates, breaking them down, and making that acid.
And the way xylitol works in your mouth is that's what it does.
The bacteria eat xylitol because they think it's a carbohydrate.
bacteria, the strep mutans bacteria.
And so you're changing the microbiome in your mouth from one that creates acid to one that doesn't.
Yes.
And in all these studies, what these dentists that were doing the studies were looking at was how it was preventing tooth decay.
The data that they collect in that, it was also showing that just by chewing gum, people were getting 42% fewer respiratory infections, but they're dentists.
They don't give a, they don't care.
What's happening with respiratory infections?
So that was always in the footnotes.
And when PubMed came online in the 90s, my dad, being a physician out in West Texas, Northwest Texas, he queried on there how to prevent ear infections in babies.
And what kept coming up was actually dental studies.
And so he started looking at that and reading this.
And then there was a study that came out.
It was published in the Journal of Antimicrobial Chemotherapy in 1998.
And really what it showed is that xylitol blocks the ability of strep pneumo, H-flu, and MCAT to adhere to the tissue.
And by blocking it, you're going to reduce that infection.
Exactly.
My dad just said, well, if it starts in the nose, why aren't we spraying it in their nose?
And he had kids who were too young to chew gum, so he bought some xylitol, mixed it in with ocean saline, started washing their nose, they stopped getting sick.
And here we are today.
Amazing.
Well, that's been my experience as well.
The only thing, I will open up your product and I add a drop or two of iodine to it.
That's something that I do, because I like to...
Just have a nasal spray with a little bit of iodine as well.
But I found it to be very effective.
And I can't tell you how many people I've given your product to and just say, here, try this.
Thank you.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, it's clear that it works.
So what's the problem with our government today that it seems like they don't like to have anything that works for people?
Across the board.
In our case, I can't speak to other cases, but in our case, I think it's because we have government employees that are just lazy.
I mean, what we found out, I mean, I'll give you the short spiel of it is, you know, we've been selling this product since 2000 and we've never had any regulatory issues.
And when COVID came around, we weren't saying anything because it's a virus.
We didn't have any data and we never talked about it in 20 years about anything to do with the virus.
But what happened is by March, April, we had a pulmonologist who was calling us and saying, hey, you guys need to look at this because something in here is working.
I mean, he was treating COVID patients in the hospital.
And he goes, you're going to need to check this out.
And so we sent our product up to the Utah State University Virology Lab, which at that point in early 2020 was one of the only labs in the country that had a SARS-CoV-2 virus.
But within a month, they sent it back and said, hey, whatever's in here, it's killing the virus.
It's destroying the virus.
We're like, well, that's interesting.
And so then we actually went back and redid this study, but we took the individual components, and we were thinking it was going to be the xylitol that had the effect against the SARS-CoV-2 virus.
But really what it was, it was the grapefruit seed extract that we were using, and the grapefruit seed extract we were using as a preservative at 0.2% was just as effective as a 70% solution of alcohol at destroying a virus.
You're kidding me!
I did not know that.
So GSE, as it's known in the supplements industry, is very potent.
Yeah, it's used as a preservative because it halts bacteria growth in often liquid products, even at a wide range of pHs, correct?
Correct.
That's what we were using it for.
Wow.
So we sent all of this data to the government, and at the same time, there was a study that came out from the University of Tennessee that It was a company in South America, and they were actually doing a study seeing how xylitol blocked viral adhesion.
Remember I said that xylitol blocked bacterial adhesion, and that's how it worked with the studies done in 1998.
Well, this study done at University of Tennessee was looking at viral adhesion.
Was xylitol blocking SARS-CoV-2?
And they were actually looking at iota carrageenan, which is a seaweed extract.
And what they found in the results in that study is that iota carrageenan at higher concentrations did block adhesion.
But the placebo, they were using xylitol as a placebo, but the xylitol, even at the littlest concentration, was blocking the virus to where they couldn't even detect the virus.
Oh, wow.
And so our nasal spray that had xylitol and had grapefruit seed extract, you kind of have a one-two punch there.
Yeah, exactly.
Now, so then, remind our audience, this is how I invited you to the show because I read some news that there was some action against your company.
Is it FTC or who's doing it?
It's the FTC. Okay.
And so we go back, and so let me finish the story.
I'll go really quick through it.
But we sent all of this stuff, and the pulmonologist in Florida, he actually submitted a study protocol in June of 2020 to the FDA saying, hey, we would like to do a study with this nasal spray in people with COVID. And the FDA came back and said, no, that's a cosmetic.
We don't allow drug action studies to be done with cosmetics.
And so we got turned down.
And the day before they turned us down, the FTC sent us a warning letter saying, For sharing the studies that we had just had published.
Sharing with the public?
Yeah.
I mean, we shared them with the government.
We shared them with the FDA. We shared them with the CDC. And we put out press releases saying, hey, this is what the components of these nasal sprays do.
And so the FTC sent us a warning letter.
And we looked at it and we're like, you could have at least called us first, but they didn't.
You could have, you know, given us a kiss first, but they didn't.
But they sent us this warning letter, and so we talked to them, and really it was just running around in circles because they said, no, you can't say anything.
Well, that doesn't make sense.
What do you mean we can't say anything?
The FTC is if you have a study, it's truth in advertising is what they claim they stand for.
If you have a study backing up what you say, then you can say it.
If you make a drug claim, the FDA might get involved.
But the FTC is if you have a study, it's honest, it's legit, then you can say it.
But they just said no.
But wait a minute, so you have the study.
We had multiple studies.
Multiple studies, but they're saying that you can't share those studies.
Correct.
I mean, I think a person watching this video would say that sounds like the FTC is suppressing science.
I think they're, in my humble opinion, I think that's criminal negligence because I think that they actually caused the death of hundreds of thousands, if not more Americans and people around the world.
And the reason why I'm saying that is because, and I forgot to mention this, the NIH actually funded a study that was done at Vanderbilt.
And this was a study where they were just using salt water, nothing else.
Salt water.
Yeah.
They had 60 people all over the age of 65, all with other comorbidities.
Every single one of them tested positive, had symptoms, was sick with COVID. They used salt water.
Within a week, 100% of them were better.
That was a product called NealMed.
Oh, yes.
I'm familiar with that, yeah.
NealMed received a warning letter.
Don't share the data.
And Neil Med back down, and they didn't share it.
They took it off their webpage.
You won't find it anywhere.
As this is happening, of course, there was also a concerted effort to destroy the reputation of ivermectin.
So science journals, so-called science journals, published utterly fabricated studies to disparage ivermectin, and hospital protocols were changed to disallow the administration of ivermectin to patients, even to whom it could clearly benefit.
So what's happening to you seems to me as part of a pattern of trying to cover up the good news about things that could help save lives.
I think that was readily apparent.
And I have my own theory as to what was going on there, but it's just a theory.
But I think you had someone who was heading up the NIH. This is my theory.
There's a little bit to back it up.
But I think that Francis Collins...
Who headed up the Human Genome Project and became very enamored with the idea of DNA and mRNA and RNA. But he wrote a book back in, I want to say 2007-ish, called The Language of God.
And in that book, he explained that, you know, his belief that DNA is how God communicates with us.
And I'm paraphrasing this.
But it's how DNA, how God communicates with matter in his language.
He uses DNA and says, this is what you do, this is how you do it.
And I think that it was his dream that before he retired, he wanted this technology to be out there to where we were using it.
I think he wanted that on his watch.
And one of the things that supports that is, if you go look at, you know, when the Great Barrington Declaration was written, And the famous email from Francis Collins to Fauci saying that we need a public takedown of this, it wasn't a question.
It wasn't saying, hey, let's think about taking this down.
It was, no, you go do this, you go do it right now.
It was an order.
That's right.
And so I think that really the ringleader behind this cabal of people is Francis Collins.
Yeah.
Francis Collins and Fauci, as you know, and many people know and understand, if you go back over the last 40 years, they're the ones that are controlling where the money's being spent on research.
That's right.
And a very large amount of that was done in DNA research.
Yes, yes.
With no results.
I mean, if you want to see how successful Fauci is, The NAIAD, National Allergy and Infectious Disease, whatever that is, he's been in charge of that for 40 years.
That's right.
Show me one type of allergy that's been reduced, one infectious disease.
I mean, every single one of the things that has been under his purview has just skyrocketed through the roof.
Well, even the Human Genome Project was a bust, right?
They thought they were going to discover the cause of every disease in the Human Genome Project.
they couldn't even find genes that express the structure of how you build a human brain.
It was a bunch of instructions for protein synthesis is essentially what they found in the Human Genome Project.
But then at the same time, I think that people like Collins and Fauci and others like Walensky at the CDC, they have just become soldiers for big pharma, in my view.
A hundred percent.
All they do is they push big pharma's profits and they use their power, they weaponize the government agencies to destroy not just the natural supplements industry, but also to destroy off-label prescription medications like ivermectin, for example.
It's all about protecting profits, even at the cost of human lives.
And in this case, I would argue hundreds of thousands of lives in America have been lost because, if not more, because of the actions of these regulators.
Oh, I 100% agree.
If there was a way to go after them for that, you know, they're out there going after, what's his name from, you know, for the border, trying to impeach him, Mayorkas, over that.
Mayorkas, yeah.
I think that impeaching Khan, the head of the FTC, I think that should be their next order of business because them going after and silencing not just us, but Neal Men and these other companies and other companies out, you know, in other related industries, Them going out and silencing these companies really did.
It caused hundreds of thousands of deaths.
There's no way around it.
I completely agree.
And I've seen the FTC weaponize in many cases in the past, even against a company that made a cherry extract.
And this company was selling concentrated cherry extract supplements or a cherry juice.
Not even a juice, but like a syrup.
Okay, so really concentrated.
And that company was citing government-funded studies about the benefits of cherries versus gout.
If you want to eliminate gout, eat a bunch of cherries.
You want to solve scurvy, you take some vitamin C. I just want to point up this.
I'm talking over a decade ago.
I used to get gout once a year, twice a year.
And my dad, again, a doctor, he told me to go get some of this tart cherry juice.
Did he?
And I used it.
I haven't had gout in over 10 years.
There you go.
It's the single most effective treatment.
But you're not allowed to say it.
And the FTC went after this company and forced them to sign a consent decree that had to be kept private.
This is the other thing.
They make you sign things that you can't share publicly.
It's a consent decree.
That you cannot even cite government-funded studies.
Well, they wanted me to sign one of those, and I told them to pound sand.
Good for you.
I said, I mean, the consent decree they had, you know, and this is after millions of dollars, hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars negotiating, and I use the term negotiating very one-sidedly because there was no negotiating on their part, but They actually came in and said, you have to sign a consent decree.
They never came to an exact number, but they kept saying millions.
And you can never mention the word COVID again.
I mean, all kinds of stuff.
And you cannot even make a statement that implies.
And I said, well, give me some guidelines.
They said, no, we don't give you guidelines.
And I said, there's no way I'm going to sign that because you can take any statement and say that it implies anything.
Right.
So we just, we did refuse to sign it.
So where does that stand now with the FTC? We're in the middle of doing depositions.
We just did, last month we did depositions of the people in the FTC a week from Monday.
They'll be doing my deposition.
So, I mean, we've learned a lot of, I mean, when I say that these guys are incredibly lazy, that's all, that's the only thing I can say because even in the depositions, so they sent us a warning letter And said, hey, you're making statements that aren't substantiated, that you don't have studies.
We sent them the studies.
They never even opened them.
They acknowledged and they admitted that they never opened them, that they never read them.
But that's the thing, because they have monopoly power and they can weaponize their department.
They don't need to be competent.
I mean, they mostly just intimidate everybody.
That's exactly what they do.
I mean, one of the other things we learned that's really interesting is we asked one of these guys.
His name's Michael Davis.
He's been with the FTC. We asked him, how long have you been with the FTC? 21 years.
In 21 years, how many times has the FTC sent out a warning letter where the entity, the company, or the person responded with data, and the FTC said, oh, yeah, sorry, our bad.
You got the data.
We retract our warning letter.
And in 21 years, he goes, never.
So either we've got the most intelligent, competent people working at the FTC, or they're criminally, you know, in my opinion, they're criminally negligent.
I would agree with that based on my experience and the experts that I've interviewed and so on.
But, you know, what else is bizarre about this is that the FTC will never go after a vaccine company even when the vaccines are promoted in an utterly unscientific and fraudulent manner.
For example, claiming that all COVID vaccines are safe and effective when there's actually no long-term clinical trials to back that up.
And then even...
The establishment now is saying, admitting that those vaccines do not prevent transmission or infections.
So it's like, wait a minute, here's a case of dishonest marketing and the FTC does nothing.
Well, I think there's, you can go back through history and I think there's a lot of these.
And the FTC, their argument is, well, you know, the FDA approved it.
The FDA does this.
We're not going to step on the toes where they're the experts.
And I would disagree with that because when they came to sue us, they went to the FDA and said, we're going to go and sue this company.
Do you want to join us in this lawsuit?
And the FDA responded and said, we've looked at it and we don't think you have a case.
We are not going to join you in this lawsuit.
Oh, that's substantial.
Well, it's not substantial enough for the high-quality, 100% baddage average that the people at the FTC have.
Well, I'm sure you have good legal representation, and I hope you know that a lot of America is rooting for you because we're tired of the tyrannical authoritarian regimes like the FTC that are just abandoning law or really writing their own law.
In fact, you may be familiar with health freedom attorney Jonathan Emord.
And I've known him.
Yeah, he's a very competent attorney.
He's running for the U.S. Senate, by the way, for the state of Virginia now.
And he wrote a whole book about dismantling these fiefdoms of these government agencies that then write their own law and their own enforcement without any approval from Congress and no oversight whatsoever.
And what's happening to you is a result of that.
It is.
And they actually admitted that.
They acknowledged that.
Because what they did is in 2022, they put out guidance, staff guidance, which they've acknowledged is not even, you can't sue someone under staff guidance.
But in essence, they sued me under it.
But they put out staff guidance where they said, now every health claim, every product that has a health claim has to have two RCTs showing and validating that health claim.
And that's utterly ridiculous because it's very apparent from that that their goal is to put the natural products, the herbal, the supplements, to put all of that out of business and push people to where they have to go to the pharmaceutical solution to everything.
That's right.
And they acknowledge that that's what they're doing, and they acknowledge that they're not doing it through rulemaking, through the appropriate process.
They're putting it out there, and they're doing it through litigation.
Because if they get enough case law, then it becomes law.
And since they can bring the full resources of the federal government to bear against one company, often they will choose a medium-sized or smaller company to target in order to create case law, knowing that that company may not have the resources to defend themselves.
That's correct.
And that's exactly what they're doing.
There's a couple of other cases.
With companies that are smaller than us, where they've done exactly that.
I mean, I'm aware of one.
I don't have their permission to talk about it, but it was a product where they approached the FTC and said, hey, we have a product we think will help.
And the FTC said, we're not your advisors.
So they didn't even put the product on the market.
And the FTC sued them.
And after she spent a couple hundred grand, the FTC settled with a judgment for zero dollars.
Just to keep it off the market.
Not to keep it off the market.
It's because they wanted the judgment and it didn't cost them anything.
I see.
They wanted that precedent in the courts.
They want the precedent.
So you've chosen to fight this.
Meanwhile, your product is still readily available in the marketplace, which is great.
I mean, that actually supports us and not them, because they sat there and said that we were harming Americans.
Well, if we were harming Americans, then logically they should have taken it off the market, but they didn't.
Well, and, yeah, I mean, if you were harming Americans, then people who use your product would have been getting a lot more sick instead of the opposite of what happens.
I'm just going to bring up Amazon right now, and here's your product on Amazon, Clear Nasal Spray.
It's very affordable, by the way.
See, this is a pack of four.
For $39.
I mean, it's incredibly affordable, and the spray mechanism works very, very well.
And let me put in there that each one of those bottles should last you a month and a half to two months.
There you go.
So you're talking about something that costs you $5 a month?
And you know what?
I would tell people this.
Well, just my personal habits.
The only times I've ever really been impacted by germs or whatever's floating around out there is when I go public speaking or I'm around groups of people or I'm traveling on an airplane.
I use your product before I do that.
I use it prophylactically.
So I would spray my nasal passages before I go hang out with a group of people, before I speak, before I get on the airplane.
Of course, I also add iodine to your product, just a little bit, a couple drops.
You don't want to overdo that.
Can I tell you something there?
Yeah, please.
That putting iodine into it, if you're using it after you're sick...
I'm completely and 100% on board with that.
I actually have some of the same stuff there.
But using it prophylactically, our product is actually designed to be used every morning and every night.
Just put it with your toothbrush.
When you brush your teeth in the morning, when you wash your hands, wash your nose.
Exactly.
And that's what it is.
And I have kids that are 11 and 13.
My 11-year-old has never been sick a day in her life.
She doesn't know what it's like to be sick.
And I really believe that that should be the rule, not the exception, but it is the exception.
I've been sick once in 22 years, and that was back in 2016, I want to say.
But what the iodine, if you're using that on a regular basis, and I know that the FLCCC does, they talk about it, but you're killing off all of the beneficial, the commensal bacteria in your nasal microbiome.
Yeah, makes sense.
No, I was using your product when I had symptoms, and I was using it with iodine.
But you're right.
And I would do that too.
If I got sick, I have bottles of it with iodine, labeled with iodine, and it's ready to go if I ever do get sick.
Well, I've been very fortunate like you, but again, I'm into high-potency nutrition.
Here's my smoothie today with my turmeric and all kinds of things in it.
But even through all of COVID, I got symptomatic for a few days, or sometimes if I've been out speaking with people, I would get symptomatic, but I know what to use.
And your product is one of the things that's in my...
My medicine kit, basically.
My natural products kit of things that I take.
And they always work for me.
Well, I have a kit.
I'm just trying to not ever use it.
And it's still sitting there.
You know, when they first came out about ivermectin and I tried to find some, I actually had to go to Mexico to buy some.
Some hydroxychloroquine.
I actually had to go to Mexico to get all that.
I still have it.
It's probably expired now.
I might have to go use that as an excuse to go back and get some more.
Personally, I buy and stockpile agricultural ivermectin because I live on a ranch and I've got donkeys and goats and chickens and so on.
If I want to take some myself, again, I can't recommend this for anybody else, but I take out about...
What do I use?
About 1.6 milliliters of a 1% ivermectin solution, and I mix it in with my smoothie and I drink it.
That's what I do.
So you really are using a horse dewarmer.
Well, yeah, but it's a universal product.
That's the thing, right?
And it's about 500 times cheaper than getting prescription ivermectin.
But I've used it also on my dogs because it prevents heartworms and things like that.
So I've had it around for years.
I didn't even think of using it myself until COVID came along, and then I learned about it.
But between ivermectin and xylitol, your product, and then I have other solutions around like iodine and things like that, so far I've been able to handle everything that's come my way.
Well, so let me, there's a study, and if you want to go to our webpage and go to the study page, you can share it, because it is on our webpage.
But there was a study that was actually done in India, and I think I mentioned, maybe I didn't, that the pulmonologist wanted to do a study here in the U.S. using our nasal spray, and he was turned down.
But there was a company in India, not a company in India, a company in the U.K., And they actually made kind of a knockoff product of ours.
It had xylitol in it.
It had some other things that destroyed viruses, kind of like our grapefruit seed extract.
They used clove oil and some other things.
But it was really a very incredibly similar product to ours.
And they took it over to India.
And they did a study in hospital workers during the Delta wave of COVID. So you're very arguably the deadliest wave of COVID at the deadliest place on the planet.
And they had hospital workers using it.
And they used it once in the morning, once in the afternoon, once at night, three times a day, every eight hours.
And these people had nearly a 75% reduction in transmission.
It was a 62% reduction above the placebo, which was just saline, which we know from other studies is 13% reduction.
So you've got nearly a 75% reduction in transmission of COVID. And we had the data.
That data was available by April, May of 2020, of 2021, sorry.
But yet, nobody talked about it.
While they were pushing masks that did not work.
So if you think about it, if you spray your sinuses with xylitol, you actually have a xylitol mask, basically, in essence, inside your nasal passages.
That actually works instead of a useless N95 mask that can't trap virus particles in the air.
So how come the health authorities weren't telling all Americans, like, wash your nasal passages?
Instead, they were just saying, wear a mask, because I think it was because it was a sign of obedience, frankly, compliance.
I 100% agree.
The only time I wore a mask was when I, A, got on an airplane, B, went to Costco or went to Target.
Other than that, I really never wore one.
Yeah.
I mean, when I was out jogging by myself up in the mountains, I did.
When I was skiing up in the mountains, Well, I wore a bandana for a little while, and I had a bandana around my neck, and if I went into a store, I would pull it up just so I can get my shopping done and not get hassled, and then take it back.
I knew it was all theater, and meanwhile, I'm at home using xylitol and iodine and ivermectin and things like that.
That's the real protection.
Okay, so...
Number one.
Oh, I also want to mention your chewing gum product, which is Spry, correct?
Correct.
Now, what I love about Spry is if I'm eating a meal and let's say there's a lot of carbohydrates in that meal, or if I'm drinking tea at a restaurant and it's slightly sweetened tea, then I like to chew your gum after the meal because I know that's going to kill the cavities causing bacteria in my mouth left over from the sugars that I just consumed, correct?
Correct.
That is 100% correct.
And that's what all the studies show.
And I mean, again, these are studies going back decades.
You know, there are studies showing that if people choose ilitol when they're pregnant, their babies don't get tooth decay.
I mean, there are studies showing that it reduces preterm births.
That was a study that was published just a couple, two years ago out of Baylor University.
They have studies, I mean, there's so many of them.
I mean, I think that one of the biggest failings of our public health agencies over the past 50 years, well, let's say 30 since they had the data, is they aren't implementing xylitol gum chewing programs in our public schools.
I agree.
And they should because they got these studies showing that for $25 a year per kid, giving them gum reduces tooth decay to practically zero, and it reduces respiratory infections by 40%.
See, it's incredible.
I completely agree with you.
And it's delicious.
That's the other thing about xylitol, is it tastes like sugar.
It tastes like sugar.
Yeah.
It's great running a company where your products taste great, and we have a guiding principle, I guess.
That if we can't show you how our products are going to save you money, we won't sell them to you.
I like that.
We used to sell a toothbrush, and we actually quit selling the toothbrush because we couldn't show you that our toothbrush was better than someone else's.
Oh, interesting.
I didn't know you sold a toothbrush.
But I see you have Xylosweet, so that's just like a sweetener replacement, but not using aspartame, not using...
It's 100% straight xylitol.
Xylitol, if you ever get a chance, get some and just taste it.
It looks like sugar.
It tastes like sugar.
If you taste it side to side with sugar, you really can't tell the difference.
It's granulated.
It's the same consistency texture.
The only thing that it doesn't do is it doesn't make hard candy.
Oh, okay.
But I have learned...
I've actually used xylitol under a microscope to show the formation of crystallization because xylitol freezes at room temperature.
Yep.
Which is really interesting.
You know, not everything does that, obviously.
So it crystallizes at a room temperature.
Right.
But again, so if you actually warm it up and spread it out, you can watch it crystallize.
That's right.
And I've done that under a microscope, and it's amazing.
It's astonishing.
I'm going to have to go do that.
Oh, man.
I've never done that.
Let me tell you.
Because I run a food science lab, and so I have a really great video microscope, pretty nice rig.
So I would just heat up a little Pyrex tray of xylitol, put it under the microscope, hit record, focus it, whatever, watch it form crystals, and then I would speed it up about 50 times.
And it's amazing.
Well, guess what?
I know what my 11-year-old daughter's next science project is.
Well, there you go.
There you go.
I mean, really, I had a lot of fun doing that, and it made me really love Xylitol in another way, because it's very beautiful.
The crystal forms are gorgeous, and it's fascinating to watch it form.
I mean, just from a chemistry point of view, or even almost a cosmic point of view, there's some kind of intrinsic...
Dare I say molecular wisdom in xylitol?
I don't know if that sounds weird.
No, there is.
I get fascinated by the same thing.
I'm just not as thoughtful as you, and I just put water in the freezer and wait for an hour, and then you shake it up and watch it crystallize.
Ah, yeah, yeah.
That's very cool.
Well, anyway, we're thinking along the same lines.
Okay, so bottom line is you're in this legal battle with the FTC. This could take quite an extended period of time, I guess.
It'll be another two years.
Okay.
It'll easily be another two years.
And then your company, they're trying to make the cost so prohibitive against your company that you eventually, they want you to throw in the towel and sign something.
Yeah.
Now, we've already spent millions and we'll spend more millions.
Good for you.
You know, but I think that it's, I think it's a fight that has to be fought.
Yes.
And I think, and I wish that more people in the natural products groups would Would stand up and fight alongside us because I know that they're getting warning letters and they're getting sued and they're just kowtowing and saying yes, yes, because they don't want to spend the money.
But in the long run, if you look at the long game, I think that's very, very harmful for America to And I think it's extremely harmful for our industry.
Clearly.
Because if they keep shutting us down and saying, you can't say this, you can't say this, well then pretty soon we're either going to have empty shelves or we're going to have shelves full of products that don't say anything.
And if you put a shelf of product with 50 products on it and you can't say anything about what it is, well then you're just going to cause harm because people will go and say, what do I do?
And they'll just eat random things.
Well, right.
And yet the big companies, like let's say General Mills or Kellogg's, they're always allowed to make the most ridiculous claims.
Like, oh, if you eat enough Cheerios, you're going to reduce your risk of heart disease or whatever.
I mean, that link is so mild compared to what we're talking about here with xylitol.
Well, I honestly, I think that the thing the FTC needs to do is they need to go after sugar and its grass status.
Wow.
That would be a big deal.
I think that whoever gave sugar grass status did more to harm people than kind of anybody else in modern history.
Think about corn syrup in soft drinks and the rampant obesity and type 2 diabetes problems that our country is facing right now.
I live in Texas.
Are you in Texas also?
No, I live in Utah.
Another great state.
The free state of Utah.
Yeah, exactly.
Here in the Republic of Texas, we have a rampant obesity problem among the Latino population.
And it's because Latinos drink a lot of soft drinks.
I mean, you almost never see a Latino person without, like, a Coca-Cola bottle or a can or something like that.
It's wild.
And you know what's interesting about that?
What?
Because when you stop and think about it, if you go to Mexico, the Latino obesity problem isn't as bad because in Mexico they don't allow high fructose corn syrup.
That's right.
That's why you get some of us now who are actually buying soft drinks from Mexico because they're made with sugar as opposed to high fructose corn syrup.
Yes.
And I think high fructose corn syrup is much more of a bad actor in our health than sugar is.
Sugar is bad.
I don't know.
Are you familiar with who Otto Warburg is?
I think I've heard the name, but not very familiar.
So he was a researcher, a Jewish, openly gay Jewish researcher in Germany in the 1930s.
Did he research the spectrum of light?
Is that what he was known for?
No.
He was researching cancer.
Really?
And he was the first one who postulated that cancer was a metabolic disease, not a chromosomal disease.
And he won Nobel Prizes for this.
And what he pointed out, this is from the 1930s, Was that the fructose is what is causing all of this metabolic dysfunction, which leads to cancer.
And there's a great book out there if you want to read it, or if anybody listening to this wants to read it, but it's called Ravenous, and it talks about the whole history of that.
But the Nazis, they actually believed the research that he was doing was valuable enough that they protected him and his lover, his partner, all through World War II. Wow.
In Berlin.
Huh.
Wild.
Wild history.
Okay, well, we'll have to check that out, learn more about that.
Now, I can tell you, you're a fascinating person.
You have a lot of interests, and I really appreciate the courage that you're demonstrating here, standing up here.
And I hope that our audience will help support your company to help bring you the resources so that you can set a precedent of defeating the FTC's overreach.
This is clearly a case of overreach.
Oh, very much so.
I mean, it's negligent.
I mean, I can't even say overreach because it is, but if these people that worked at the FTC had actually read the studies, it doesn't even take an elementary school education to understand that, you know, if you have a pathogen entering in your nose, washing your nose is going to be helpful.
Yeah.
What makes you wonder, don't the FTC employees have kids or grandkids that they want to protect?
Why are they making our world a worse place for their own children?
I can't answer that question.
No, I can't either, but I think it's a four-letter word, and it starts with E, and it's evil.
I mean, there's a level of evil that is at play here to deprive people access to the things that can keep them healthy and help save lives.
Same thing with ivermectin.
It's incredible.
No, I agree.
I think that there's a lot of stuff going on in our government.
I think it's, you know, people call it the deep state when they're referring to some of these politicians that have been in there forever.
But I really think the administrative state is more the deep state than the politicians are.
Because I go out there and I talk to people on the right side.
I talk to people on the left side.
Both of them.
I think that this FTC stuff is just bizarrely crazy.
I went and watched a hearing where Commissioner Kahn was being grilled by both Democrats and Republicans, and not a single person on either side had a good word to say to her.
They're like, yeah, since you started running the FTC, the morals gone down, your job sucks, your employees are leaving, you know.
Yeah, and they get free money.
I mean, unlimited amounts of free money and they still screw it up.
It's unreal.
But you're right, the administrative state, the problems with it are that no one is elected there, they are appointed, there's no voter oversight, and there's no congressional oversight.
I mean, we see this in every agency, including like the ATF going after arm braces, for example, or The FDA declaring that some natural supplement is now a drug candidate and therefore it's a drug like N-acetylcysteine.
Things like that.
It's like, what?
You just made this up.
And they're like, yeah, we did.
We just made it up.
We just made it up, and now you have to change your whole life because we made up a fairy tale.
Right.
Right.
Exactly.
So we've been doing this for 20 years, dealing with the xylitol and how to tell the story.
Yeah.
And we have deliberately not done a lot of outreach to the general public because it's very hard to tell a story about how something...
Works and how it helps if you can't actually say what it does.
Exactly.
And so most of the time, I mean, people haven't heard about us, but what we've been doing for 20 years to grow this business is we've been going out and talking to physicians.
We go to a lot of medical conferences.
We advertise in the medical literature and the medical journals.
You know, we go in and talk to doctors.
We send them samples.
And we've grown and done a very good job of growing based on those restrictions.
But if you put out an end and said, you know, wash your nose...
Why is someone going to start washing your nose if you can't say that washing your nose helps reduce all of these bacteria from getting into your body, which is going to help reduce you getting sick?
Yes, exactly.
I mean, we're supposed to be A society rooted in transparency and evidence-based science and evidence-based medicine, well, what if you're not allowed to talk about the evidence?
It's incredible.
And also big tech and the search engines, they twist everything.
Google twists everything.
I now call Google a disinformation engine.
It's designed to disconnect people from knowledge.
Not to give people knowledge, but to make sure that you never find knowledge.
And same thing with Wikipedia.
I usually don't do anything with Google anymore.
I've kind of given up on them.
Yeah.
Well, you know, it's funny.
We have another...
There's a sponsor we have in the telecom space that used to spend like $200,000 a month with Google.
Now it's zero because they just started sponsoring alternative media, and now they have vastly surpassed any response they ever got from Google.
So it's a success story.
I'll connect you to their CEO if you want to talk to them one day.
Who is it?
Well, I don't want to say here on the air, but I'll tell you off-air.
Oh, okay.
I mean, I have a satellite phone I use to get around...
You're a good guesser, so we'll see.
But I do want to tell the audience here, this is not a sponsored interview.
I'm an advocate of your product.
I'm a customer of your product.
This is the first time we've ever spoken, and we don't have any financial relationship at all, but I support what you're doing.
I think you're very courageous.
So I really appreciate your time today.
Well, thank you.
I appreciate you having me on, helping get the word out about how effective oral hygiene and nasal hygiene is, is I think that's something our public health agencies should be doing.
It's something that traditionally they did, but starting in the late 80s, 90s, they stopped doing it.
They abdicated that responsibility.
They're not going into the schools.
They're not teaching our kids how to brush their teeth.
They're not teaching them good hygiene habits.
And a large segment of our population is not getting that information, and that's why Tooth decay has been rising for 30 years.
Respiratory infections are off the charts.
It's because our public health agencies are failing us because all they're looking for is vaccines, vaccines, vaccines.
And if it's not a vaccine, they don't want to talk about it.
That's so true.
Yeah, you nailed it.
Tell our audience where they can find your products.
I already showed an Amazon page, but where else?
You can find them anywhere.
I mean, our nasal sprays, CVS, Rite Aid, Walgreens, Target, Texas HEB, Sprouts, Vitamin Shop, I said CVS, everywhere.
I mean, you go into any grocery store, they carry them.
I mean, even Dollar General carries them.
Oh, really?
Oh, yeah.
I didn't know that.
Yeah, you can go pretty much anywhere.
Wow.
And you're able to buy the nasal sprays.
Well, that's amazing.
Okay, well, you've done a great job then on distribution, and I congratulate you on your success, and I'm glad that it's given you the resources to take a stand against what I would call administrative tyranny.
Yeah.
Well, one more thing is another book, because I do like to read, and I read a lot, but...
There's a book out there that I read in 2017, so well before COVID. And it's an interesting book because it's called Pandemic Century.
And I quote this book a lot because the author went back through the last 100 years.
And roughly every 10 years in the United States, we have an epidemic of some nature.
Spanish flu, swine flu, polio.
I mean, all kinds of them.
Zika.
But every single one of these epidemics that we've had in the past 100 years...
Not a single one of them was solved with a vaccine.
You can make a very loose argument that polio was, but it's not a very good argument.
But all the rest of them that were solved by human intervention, it was always through hygiene and sanitation measures, never through pharmaceuticals.
And when COVID came around, the powers that be ignored the hygiene and the sanitation measures.
They silenced it and they went to the pharmaceutical.
And I think that's a travesty.
Absolutely.
I agree with you and I know our audience does as well.
And that's why programs like this, education like this, platforms like Brighteon we have here are so critical in order to give people information that can help them make better choices, that can save lives and help reduce human suffering too.
We forget about that sometimes.
You know, you don't want kids to suffer and miss out on life.
Keep them well.
Keep them healthy.
And this is how to do it.
One of the only times my daughter ever got sick was Halloween night.
And she was so disappointed that she went out trick-or-treating and came home 20 minutes later saying, I can't breathe.
Oh my.
Oh yeah, that's a rough night to get sick when you're a kid.
That's true.
But might have been sicker from eating all that candy though.
Who knows?
Well, my kids are, you know, I let them go out trick-or-treating, and then they come home, and literally three-quarters of what they come home, they're like, trash, trash, trash.
And they save 10 or 15 pieces, and I'm like, go eat it when you want.
Yeah.
Yeah, well, sounds like you're a good dad.
Give them the freedom to make their own decisions.
Alright, well thank you so much.
It's been a pleasure getting to meet you and speak with you and to find out more about your company.
I mean, like I said, I'm an advocate of your product and I didn't even know you and your philosophies.
I'm just so glad to find out about your level of courage here.
Well, next time you come to Utah, come hang out.
We'll go snowmobiling or skiing or something.
I love Utah.
Yeah, it's a great state.
And Utah, they're going to pass a new sovereignty law, by the way.
They did.
Oh, did they pass it?
They passed it.
Oh, my goodness.
They passed it like two weeks ago.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
Well, then we may all end up in Utah unless Texas declares itself a republic first.
When they did, I was actually in San Antonio.
Yeah.
Well, I'll tell you what.
Next time you're near San Antonio, contact my producers and you can swing by in the studio, bring some of your clear products, and we'll do it in person next time.
We'll do that.
All right.
Sounds good.
Well, thank you.
Thank you.
Have a great day.
All right, and thank you for watching, folks.
Again, the company is called Clear, but it's spelled X-L-E-A-R, and the website is just like that, xlear.com.
And we were just speaking there with Nathan Jones, the founder of the company, just an extraordinary man.
And I hope you choose to support this company.
Again, this is not a sponsored interview.
We don't earn anything off of this.
But what Nathan Jones is doing is really critical for our entire industry of health freedom.
So please consider supporting him.
And the best way you can do that is by protecting your own health by using his products.
So enjoy.
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I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.com.
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